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How the mighty have fallen….. · JustIN Time

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  Welcome to another edition of the Justin Tom podcast.
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  I'm your host Justin, We've got will with us again.
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  How you doing buddy? I'm on the.
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  Streak right now, brother. So look, it's good to be back.
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  So I'm on the streak. Yeah, look, it's got to start
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  new. Yeah, it's good to have you
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  back. We're talking Alabama today and
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  how the mighty have fallen. The Tide.
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  Crimson Tide. You know, like.
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  Starting the season off at 11 AM on September 5th.
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  East versus Carolina. I don't think in the past years
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  I've ever I don't remember Alabama starting at 11 AM.
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  They may, I know they start off I was like there was a stretch
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  where they were doing like the neutral site, big neutral site
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  games, but. Like.
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  But like they, they know do like the first game, home games, the
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  cupcakes, like Youngstown State and whoever.
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  Yeah, I just don't remember them being a 11 AM game in a while.
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  But last episode I told you I would start off with the story
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  and it was the freshman year at LSU.
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  We played Alabama right after the game of the century and then
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  the butt whooping of the century.
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  Yep, that's right. And they came to town and game
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  day came and game that used to do the whole thing on the parade
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  grounds and they were setting up that night and we, my buddy had
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  a tailgate and I lived in a dorm.
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  So I went out there with him and sat out there on in the tailgate
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  was right off of the parade grounds right by right in front
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  of the tower. And we were sitting there.
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  We fried a Turkey and stuff. They had the all the different
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  Batmobiles come out, but I was wearing.
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  So I went to Disney World and I think it was 2008, I was in the
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  eighth grade and they had ESPN Wide World of Sports and I
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  bought this pullover and it was a Sports Center pullover and it
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  would had ESPN. I still have it.
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  It's got ESPN on it and it says Sports Center on the back.
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  It was kind of cold, but it wasn't like it was a Louisiana
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  cold. Well, it wasn't freezing, but it
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  was chilly. So you needed something on.
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  And I was wearing that. And I went to the bathroom at
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  the student union and I walked back and I was wearing that.
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  And I went to sit back at the tailgate.
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  And one of those guys from Sports Center, not Sports
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  Center, ESPN, setting up for game day, came up and started
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  like yelling at me, like, what are you doing?
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  You got to get back to work. And.
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  I was like, dude, I don't, I don't work for ESPNI.
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  Just have this. I got it from Disney World.
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  He was like, that is like top quality.
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  Man, look, that's a good comment.
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  I said. You want to give me a job?
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  Listen, I'll move. Yeah, listen.
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  And that's. What you're really telling?
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  Me, I'll start today. And then I think we can win into
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  that game and we thought we had a big head and we thought we
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  were going to win and they destroyed us.
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  Yeah. And The thing is like, you know,
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  they had like, I remember like that first bamboo game, I was
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  fresh like when we were freshman in college.
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  So this 2012, like I was at home studying for an exam.
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  So that's so I was like foot. I didn't want to see too much.
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  You had one of those professors. Yes, I was studying for the
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  exam. It was like because I was
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  actually, I remember I was in the, in the, in the family room,
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  like I was by myself, like I was at home by myself at that time
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  like that, that night. But.
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  I'm like my parents out, my sister was out and were just
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  like I was. I was filming through like the
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  Oregon and USC game too. So I was, I was largely watching
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  that game. I was trying to distract myself
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  from the bam LSU game because I was also then I was also
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  studying. So like beyond I watch the rest
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  of it later. So I mean we had we had had the
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  lead and they had came back and did and like that game wouldn't
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  drive. I was like, that was really like
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  the turning tide for that series history that we had like a
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  decade straight. Yeah.
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  And it was a lot. One of those things where we
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  played Alabama close for a long time, from 2012 to, I want to
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  say 2014, it was always a close one, especially when we played
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  them at home in 2012 and 2014. Yeah, 2012 and 2014, it was
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  always a close one. In 2014, I believe it was, we
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  were winning going into the last three minutes or something.
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  And we got all. We were all moving up, going
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  towards the gate. We were the storm the field and
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  LSU said put on the thing, if we win, don't storm the field.
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  And that was the knife in the back that we lost that game.
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  Yeah, you know. Yeah, but this was, this was
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  like, like I said before, like it's a historical life sided on
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  our end. Like they have like it's 5827
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  and five. Yeah.
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  But like we moved to justice point, you know, I want to say
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  like it's misleading because it's not you dirty, dirty wins
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  behind, but like just like a lot of those losses were really
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  competitive. Like, and one of the unique
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  thing about this rival, actually, you have the the
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  common ground with the head coaches with Nick Saban.
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  Of course, that's what ran into like the lore of this robbery.
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  You know, just this matchup, you know, just like it's it's one of
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  the more compelling, you know, storylines.
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  You know, it's like TV wise, it's like the leads draw in the
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  conference for many years, but like, but historically it's
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  that's not what it is. So I just want to be in.
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  My opinion Alabama LSU wasn't Alabama LSU until Nick Saban
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  took that job. What it wasn't I mean it because
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  like it shows in the historic results even with even with he
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  when even when he got there. I remember that first year we
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  played him at Death Valley. When he first got the job at LSU
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  and we just beat him, it wasn't like, Oh yeah, we beat Alabama.
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  It was just a we beat him and we moved on.
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  Wasn't until we got to high school, like in 2010 and 2011
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  where it took off. Yeah.
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  Yeah, you know, because like the first, so his first year and Bam
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  was 07, so we were eighth grade. Yeah.
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  That was like a massive game is on its own.
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  I was on our championship year. So like, you know, we went it
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  was it was like 4541, yeah, 40 yeah, 4134.
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  That was a back and forth game, man.
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  Yeah, like just epic game. I was like a massive game.
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  Of course, like the game of the century 2011 championship
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  rematch of a although it didn't live up, but just those like
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  even before, like even in O 5 like this, like I remember Chris
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  Jack, like our kicker head was went one for four with field
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  goals. Yeah, like special teams always
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  played a role in this, in this, right?
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  Especially in the game of Game of the Century, it played a huge
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  role because it was 9 to 6 and it was just straight field
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  goals. Yeah, I think like just the play
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  of the game was like a Eric Reid's intersection.
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  I was about to say Eric Reid. I just like could that change
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  that because like that that great.
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  It was a great play, call it just.
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  And it was a 5050 ball and it was called on the one and it
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  could have depended on who you actually could have been a
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  touchdown. Yeah.
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  And it was a 5050 ball that we got lucky and they gave us.
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  It was a I don't think he was. In, I don't think he was in the
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  play. I don't think that was his
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  assignment if I remember. No, it wasn't.
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  Like he had, he had came over, he had broke on the ball thing
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  because I was that would have lost the game.
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  But. Yeah, I remember that game was
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  so huge. That was our homecoming that
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  year. Man, we moved.
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  Homecoming up to 12:00. Man, like I remember like that
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  day, like the morning, because, you know, I was like our church
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  youth group, you know, we had like, we had visited somewhere
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  early in that morning, early that day.
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  And like, that was on the news as far as like, you know, our
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  homecoming was moved to 3:00 PM. That's when you know, football
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  is serious. Like you don't understand.
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  And look, there's a few games that I remember watching in high
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  school because I watched them on a, there was a meaningful game
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  for a Louisiana team, and I watch him on a projector for
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  that Alabama game. Matt Adler had a, I'm going to
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  take his name out, but we had a part watch party and we were in
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  the backyard and had a whole big old projector and we watched the
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  game and everybody was jumping up and down and having a good
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  time. The next one was when the Saints
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  won the Super Bowl. We were at the gym for our FCA
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  Super Bowl party and when Peyton Manning threw that interception,
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  they sealed the game. That pick six, we were running
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  all over. We hit the cord for the
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  projector and they had these back in the day.
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  They had these little TV's that were about this big.
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  We were sitting on there watching until we got the
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  projector backup, watching the Super Bowl on a screen that was
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  just big and there was 10 of us huddled around.
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  I remember like real quick. I remember like, I, I was in
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  Miami. We was in Fort Lauderdale.
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  Like we was at like this big courtyard at this restaurant.
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  I'm like, it was like they had on this big projector.
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  So we was like waiting several hours before the game just
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  standing up there. Yeah.
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  So it's like when they bro. Like I remember when, when Tracy
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  had to pick 6. But like I was like me, I me.
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  I was like, I started crying when we scored like being a
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  friend of like this this guy, same guy, like he had hugged me,
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  he had hugged me to us. I was crying.
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  Look, we for that one, we hit that projector line, kicked it.
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  The projector went out. We would huddle around that
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  little TV. But before we start talking
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  about Bama again, I just got one thing to say.
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  Archie Manning always wanted his son to throw the game when he
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  touched down pass for the Super Bowl for the Saints.
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  And he did, he did. It was just a pick 6.
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  Hey, it was a touchdown. It was a touchdown, but, but you
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  know, we'll talk more about the Mannings in a future episode.
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  Yes. But you know right now, so I've
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  got Alabama winning against East Carolina.
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  They're part of Kentucky's murderers robe, and they'll beat
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  Kentucky. Yes, that's two and.
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  Up, I think they go 3 and O and it's Florida State.
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  They going to be out for revenge too at home too.
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  Yes, it got embarrassed by him last year.
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  So that's three, you know. Yeah, then South Carolina at
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  night game in Tuscaloosa. Now night games in Tuscaloosa
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  don't really matter because their fans are spoiled, you
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  know, and that reality is starting to hit these fans in
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  the face. You had a legendary coach who
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  required excellence in everything and now you've just
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  got a great to elite coach. You know, there's a difference
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  in the gap in, there's a gap in between legendary and elite, and
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  it's about this wide. Especially there, especially for
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  them. In each half an inch is 1000
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  miles in this thing right here, and it's just the reality of
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  your situation. That's the reality of situation.
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  When you go from a legendary coach retiring to a new coach,
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  you're not going to have the same output.
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  So we said Tuscaloosa and South versus South Carolina, that's a
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  win. That's four and O.
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  Although they struggle with South Carolina in the past.
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  Yeah, these past few years. But since he's in Tuscaloosa,
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  I'll give it to South Carolina. I don't think it matters.
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  Cowbells don't matter in the Mississippi State game.
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  Five and O. So 5 and 6.
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  And because they just got some, they paid somebody in New
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  Orleans to have a make a voodoo ball, a Kirby Smart voodoo doll,
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  a Kirby Smart. And it doesn't matter how big
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  George is up, they always end up dropping against Alabama.
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  So 6 and O. 6 and O Here's where I'm a little bit tempted because
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  this is always a wild gang. I'll give it to Tennessee.
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  With you there. So that's going to be their
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  first drop of the season. So that's make that 6 and.
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  One I'm going to say at Texas A&M in Tuscaloosa, I will give
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  it to Alabama Crimson Tide. 27 and 1.
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  They're going to beat the colt out of Texas A and MI.
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  Hope so actually. That's our job.
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  We're going to beat the Colt out of Texas A&M earlier on and then
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  y'all beat out the remnants. There you go.
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  Look, you get the scratch. Seven in one going into the BI.
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  Yeah, Alabama in Baton Rouge against LSU.
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  Tough. That's tricky.
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  This is tricky. It's a coin toss.
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  As tough you know. I'll put this one as a coin
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  toss. It's too early to call, you
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  know. I'm going to say, gosh, I don't
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  know, man. I'm going to say for this SEC,
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  I'm going to give them the win right now.
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  All right? I'll give them one right now
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  just so I'll be 8:00 and 1:00. Yeah, 8 and one I.
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  Got I got to see, I got to see what they look like.
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  So I'm going to say 8:00 and 1:00.
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  Actually, out there, seven and two, I'll give them the loss.
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  OK, you can give us this. LSU And I'll give it to us.
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  This is toy 'cause you already given Bama the win.
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  I'll give them the loss because that just, it's tough.
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  There's not enough information for me right now because I
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  haven't seen Sam Levitt. If it's a straight defensive
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  game, I'll give our defense the edge.
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  But I want to see what our offensive line and our
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  playmakers on the, you know, look like.
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  But it's like I said, it's a coin toss.
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  Since you're giving them the win, I'm going to give them the
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  loss in Baton Rouge. I will give them the win in
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  Nashville. Me too. 9 and 1 for me.
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  Yeah. So they're 8:00 and 2:00, 9:00
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  and 2:10 and 1:11 and No 10 and 2 is what I got them in and you
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  got them in there 11:00 and 1:00.
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  Correct. Because Auburn might be a tough
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  game and us might have to go in and make a correction to that
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  video the last episode. But I'll give them the win just
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  because it's in Tuscaloosa for the Iron Bowl.
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  It's a good. That's a weird game again.
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  Yeah. But you've got those rental win
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  at Chattanooga. Yeah, I got them going to level
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  1 as of as of the second. Yeah, I'll have them going.
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  Their resistance is in October. Yeah, I'll give them 10:00 and
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  2:00 just because LSU is a coin toss in.
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  Yeah. Yeah, but we'll see.
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  Like we said the last episode, it's just the summer.
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  We haven't seen any of these teams play.
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  We're just for Alabama. We're going off of the Alabama
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  name what? You know, we're going off of
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  what Nick Saban built up at Alabama, you know, But I will
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  say this, you know, Caitlin Dubois, your time is coming to
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  a. I was going to bring that up.
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  I said this a week, so you. Got to do something.
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  So like, I want you to coach, you know, I'm sure you're not
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  going to listen to them, but you should.
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  So yours truly doesn't. It got you tending to that.
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  That's your floor basically in year 3.
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  I'm always a guy that gives the coach three years regardless of
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  the sport. You're in a very privileged
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  position because it's like college sports is not equal.
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  You have great resources. You have the priority and the
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  resources there together in Alabama.
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  So, so even in a test of this conference is this always is you
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  still have a well I get, I got you 11/1 at the moment.
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  Yeah. And what you were able to take
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  Washington, that was his old team, right, Washington?
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  That's correct. Didn't they make it to the
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  national championship game? They did.
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  Boston, Michigan. Y'all made it to the national
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  championship game. You've got way.
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  In my opinion it's and I guess it's it's the opinion of
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  probably the whole country. This is why you took the job.
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  You've got some resources at Alabama that puts you forth and
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  puts you so much further. Yeah, a glorified clown in Baton
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  Rouge, depending on who you acts.
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  Took the last bit of remnants and Nick Saban's team and won a
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  national championship at OSU. You know, that's what I'm
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  judging you off of is how quick Nick Les Miles turned around and
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  what you're currently doing at Alabama.
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  I like this, too. Alabama's got the countdown to
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  the first game 45 days, 23 hours, 20 minutes and 24
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  seconds. That's.
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  Right at the time. Of recording, you know, it's
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  tough to look at a coach when they come.
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  Like I said before, the gap between legendary and elite is
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  this, you know, with each half inch in that about 1000 miles I
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  think. Like, you know, he would be much
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  more easier than any other place and people have said that.
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  I think he's really solid. He's a high end coach.
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  Obviously. Yeah, you don't go to hard to go
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  to a championship without being a high end coach, but.
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  I. Think just it.
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  It's just people don't realize it's just so different in elite
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  schools like the the standard is such a whole nother astronomical
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  level. If if if to be honest with you,
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  I'm patient with comes as like if he goes if he were to nine
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  wins they they're going to get rid of Yeah.
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  Look, I'm going to say it just you can be a great coach and
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  elite coach even, and I put those because I'm talking about
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  Brian Kelly. But the difference between any
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  other conference and the SEC is you're not going to come to an
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  SEC school. You got to be able to and just
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  coach football. You got to be able to deal with
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  fan interactions and answer questions.
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  I don't watch enough about Alabama, mainly because I don't
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  feel like being depressed in the past couple years because they
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  would beat up US, beat us up pretty good.
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  You know, I will say this, and the only highlight from Brian
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  Kelly's tenure at LSU for me was when we beat Alabama and I took
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  my mom to the game and we got to storm the field.
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  That was pretty cool. You know that look, that's one
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  of the only highlights I have from watching the Alabama gang
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  at LSU in the past. Finish.
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  Iconic finish, yeah, but. My point being when you have a
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  coach that comes up and he think and he's an elite coach and I
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  like I said, I don't know what, pay attention to what the board
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  does in the media and everything, but I don't hear
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  anything bad said about him. But like Brian Kelly came in, if
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  he wasn't used, he was very arrogant.
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  He wasn't used to people asking intelligent questions about
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  football, you know, and wanting to know this and that and
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  questioning him. He didn't embrace Baton Rouge
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  and he didn't embrace the Southeastern Conference.
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  Yeah, now we'll say this. Alabama fans are spoiled rotten.
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  They're not used to losing. Yeah, you know, I.
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  Think this is the longest time they've gone without winning a
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  national championship or being in the national championship
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  game. Yeah, so.
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  Last appeared so the last one in 2020 lost in 21.
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  Yeah, it's it's been a while. So like so they won in the 70s,
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  I think, but they didn't want to get until 92.
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  They had like a drought like then of course, like that from
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  that point then the from 92 to O 9 that was like a 17 year
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  drought. They've had their droughts, but
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  I mean not like not since the turn of the century.
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  That's the same in there, of course, but yeah.
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  And they've got a drought going on right now.
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  And just to me, you're Alabama. That name carries a lot.
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  But Alabama has the same issue that everybody else is facing,
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  and that is NIL and transfer portal, You know, and to me, I
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  still think it's funny that Auburn and Alabama put out a
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  joint statement against something.
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  So, so classic. Any.
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  Time they put out a joint statement against something, you
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  know it's bad. You know who's Alabama's
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  quarterback this year? That's a big.
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  Question mark. So we don't know.
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  Yet it's still question. Well, well.
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  Well, people, I mean, just, you know, you, you lost out.
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  Ty Simpson. I thought he was going to come
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  back, but. But I, I thought I've been a
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  huge retainer for them. Yeah.
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  But that would have been, you know, it's been an ongoing.
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  Battle with Austin Mack and you know, yeah.
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  Keenan. Russell So I mean, yeah.
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  So we'll see. Only time will tell.
• 21:45
  You know, it's one of those things where only time will tell
• 21:48
  and offensive line remains a significant question mark with
• 21:52
  ball camp on the horizon. That's huge.
• 21:54
  You know, if their offensive line is bad, that number, that
• 21:58
  10 win season that I'm giving them and that eleven win season
• 22:01
  that you're giving them is going to go down.
• 22:04
  Yep, we've seen. That happen at LSU so many
• 22:07
  times, you know. Just a very.
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  Weird situation. You know, the landscape of
• 22:12
  college football has just changed so much coaching wise.
• 22:15
  Oh. Yeah, well, last year you you
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  think about last year just that it crazy coaching cycle detect
• 22:22
  Kent State, LSU just came out all in the same year.
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  That's you just. On Alabama schedule, they are
• 22:29
  facing 1234 out of 12 games. They're facing 4 new coaches or
• 22:36
  teams with not new coaches, but I should say four teams with new
• 22:41
  coaches, you know, And it's just going to be a wild ride for
• 22:45
  everybody involved, you know? Yeah, but I've got nothing left
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