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  have tonight, so things got moved around a bit. One off episode.
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  Here we are live seven pm Eastern on a Thursday, to dive into the
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  twenty twenty three AFC East by taking a look at each one of the teams
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  from last year, dissecting them, looking at their biggest question marks, their
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  biggest strengths, or biggest pieces that make them a division contender. We are
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  going to go through all four of those teams in tonight's episode of Disguised Coverage,
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  and to join me on that journey is someone who I am legitimately a
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  tremendous fan of. I was just on his show last week, we recorded
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  it got uploaded this week. Hopefully remember him or you should remember him.
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  He was my guest for Pat's Week, the first one last year in twenty
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  twenty two. Mister Taylor Kyles, who the last time I had you on,
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  you were not a beat reporter for Pats CLNS, which you are now
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  you were on. We joked about it before I am, but to drop
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  it a little bit just because it's cool. Mina Kimes had you on this
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  week like you're making some moves, moving on up in the world, and
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  proud of you, happy for you. You're a great dude, you know,
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  Ball, You're a tremendous guest. Welcome to the show. If I
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  had a studio audience, this is where they'd all clap you, like,
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  well, first of all, you still have the absolute best opening in the
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  game. I'm marvel at it. I'm aspiring to be anything close. But
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  yeah, man, I'm excited to talk some AFC's Ball. Always excited to
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  talk to you, period. We had a really lengthy, a little session
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  before this because you know, I love talking to you so much, so
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  hell yeah, man, let's do this. You just recently did a Behind
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  the Enemy Line series, which is kind of one inspired me to pivot a
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  little bit this week and bring you on and continue some of this conversation.
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  I want you to plug that one because I was on it, and I
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  also want to plug myself and I'm selfish, but mainly I just thought it
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  was a really tremendous idea with what you did. Again, you know,
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  you cover the Pats, but talk a little bit about your idea for that
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  series and you know, kind of putting it together and how it's led to
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  your perspective looking on you know this twenty twenty three AFC East. Yeah,
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  honestly, I actually got the invitation to be on Mina's show. That I
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  mean also just you know this season you're looking for stuff, but you're looking
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  for stuff to talk about at this point in the season, and you know,
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  we talk about our own teams like ad nauseum. It's really you know,
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  it's our bread and butter. So I figured it'd be good to extend
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  my horizons a little bit talk to other people I really respect, obviously you
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  you know, I absolutely love you and your content. I had the honor
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  of also having Kyle Krabs I walked on Dolphins, who is absolutely fantastic.
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  Connor Rogers of SNY, of PFF, of just literally anything associated with jet
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  sports, Congress involved in because he's also fantastic, and really the takeaway was
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  this addition is just as much of a rock fight and just as stacked as
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  I thought it was, because you got so many teams that I mean even
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  last year. You know, the Dolphins were competitive, the Patriots were as
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  competitive as they could be without competent coaching in a lot of places. The
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  Bills were the Bills, and the Jets were respectable, which or what they've
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  been recently. I'm trying to give the Jets in respect because I respect what
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  they've been trying to do. I like Joe Douglass, I like a lot
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  of players on that team. But the reality is you there was some respect
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  for the defense considering they weren't a team that got talked about a lot.
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  Very underrated. Is gonna, i think, get a lot more headlines this
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  season because the offense is gonna be able to keep up now that they've actually
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  got a proven quarterback who doesn't look like he's necessarily gonna be dropping off anytime
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  soon. I was a I'm a guy who was following Brady for a long
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  time, and you used to hear always too old, he can't do,
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  and it's no. You give an older, experienced quarterback who doesn't have nerve
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  damage, you know, a good system around him, he'll probably do pretty
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  well. So yeah, man, this is a fun division to talk about.
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  Yeah, I think you. I don't even have Usually I follow up
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  with like a little quip or some kind of something, but I couldn't anything
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  you did tremendous away. I know the quips are coming. I had him
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  in the whole str I'm waiting. Yeah, I can't. It's about quality,
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  not quantity. I'm not just trying to just throw quips left and right.
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  You gotta keep something. I love you. I love this show.
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  We're right here. We get each other. I appreciate you. Oh all
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  right, we'll start with that New York Jets team who you mentioned briefly in
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  your piece just now. So again, well, for everybody who doesn't know
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  what we're gonna do, we're gonna go from worst to first from the twenty
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  twenty two standings. So we're going Jets, We're going Pats, We're going
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  Dolphins, and then we're going Buffalo Bills. We're gonna go through each team
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  talk about their biggest, you know, top tier piece that makes them a
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  division contender, and we're also going to talk about their biggest question mark.
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  We're gonna do that for every single team here in the AFC East, and
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  then at the end we'll give our predictions for how we think this division will
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  end up. Taylor, I'm going to give you some power here. Do
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  you want to go with your biggest question first or the biggest like top tier
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  exciting piece that makes the jets of contender. What do you want to do?
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  I'll start optimistic. Okay, that's fair play to the crowd. Sometimes
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  you gotta pander and patronize. That's what you gotta do. You know what
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  I'm saying. And I'm gonna give you like some atchural stuff so it's not
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  all fluff like um, I mean Aaron Rodgers, it's pretty self explanatory's a
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  fantastic player U as long as he's got good protection around him. I think
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  that with Garrett Wilson, it's pretty much guaranteed that this is going to be
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  a good offense. I would never compare anyone to Davantae Adams, but I
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  do think that Garrett Wilson is a unique enough talent that he can give you
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  that true number one where you can say, okay, we can match him
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  up one on one. He's the guy where we try to scheme all the
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  best mismatches for to see what he can do. Like we saw with Devontae
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  Adams, and you know, the Packers kind of ran urpos of Aaron Rodgers
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  a little too much last year. It started to become kind of something that
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  you just saw coming on sat flats, slant flats, slat flats. Oh,
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  Mike McCarthy, the ghost of Mike McCarthy took over the Packers again.
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  You can't get away from Blake. But it's also because they didn't have that
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  guy that Rogers could trust to win one on one consistently. That was Adams,
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  and you know him and Wizard they have an amount of chemistry, but
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  it's again it's on slants in fades. It's really one dimensional. And he's
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  a good player, he's not a great player. So if you have a
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  really good cornerback, it's gonna limit how effective Lazard can be. Now with
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  Garrett Wilson, you can have the big, strong, fast cornerback. Christian
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  Gonzalez obviously comes to mind. Like you get a rookie out there, for
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  example, who's got all the physical gifts in the world. Proved last year
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  that he's a very competitive player. But I think Garrett Wilson is someone who
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  kind of like a Stevie Johnson pandering to my Bill's audience here a little bit,
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  but such a unique route runner where you really don't know what he's doing
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  because his body language is so unconventional and it makes him very, very hard
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  to defend one on one. So I think he's someone that if the if
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  the almost are the Packers and the Jets gonna be the offense through Garrett Wilson
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  really established him, is that number one guy. I think They've got plenty
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  of complimentary weapons who can really at least be those guys that Aaron Rodgers can
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  lean on and look towards if teams do focus on Garrett Wilson, So I
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  would say that one two punch, I would say Breece Hall because I am
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  a big fan of him. He had a great year obviously before he tore
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  his aco. Unfortunately, if he were healthier and he wasn't a question mark
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  in terms of when he was going to be active, I'd throw him in
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  that mix and be like, yeah, they got a legit big three right
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  now with two great young players. But I feel like, right now you
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  really put all your eggs in the Aaron Rodgers Garret Wilson basket and pray that
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  the offensive lines days LP. I think that's a fair point to start um
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  from from a positive standpoint, And it's funny like my that piece is a
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  bit related to my biggest question mark, but still in a positive way.
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  Um, So I'm gonna stick with a positive fully for now. One.
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  I love your Garrett Wilson assessment, and probably because I'm a little biased,
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  he was my wide receiver one last year. I just love watching him come
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  out of Ohio State, and I understood the love for a lobby and I
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  also understood the different flavors and wit last year. Depending on what you were
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  looking for, you know, Drake Lendon could be your one, Garrett Wilson
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  could be your one, so on, and so for some people had John
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  Dotson in like their top five or four. Some people had him and as
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  like wide receiver seven, eight, nine to and you're like a good class
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  to him. He crept up into the first and people were like, oh,
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  that's too high. And then by the middle of the year, it
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  was like, Oh, he's really good, Like this is a great class.
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  Second, I still think sky Moore has a lot to offer, and
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  he went in the second round, and we'll see what happens with Kalil Shakure's.
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  Kalu Shakuire fell to the fifth to the Buffalo Bills, and he had
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  I'm not gonna cross my fingers, but I respect where it heads at,
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  where heads at, and I understand why you will go that way. But
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  yeah, Wilson, just the suddenness and deception that he operated with at Ohio
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  State. I didn't know how strong he would come out of the gate in
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  this Jets offense. But he was, to your point, like a legitimate
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  like high end wide receiver two low end one early on in the year.
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  And that's playing with Joe Flacco and Zach Wilson. And you knew when Flacco
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  went in, what do veteran QB's like to do? They just want to
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  go to somebody they can trust. And Flacco, I'm thinking immediately in that
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  Cleveland game early on, where's Garrett Wilson. Where's Garrett Wilson. He's just
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  feeding him targets because dude keeps getting open. He separates in the red zone
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  and just catches a touchdown early on. It creates like seven yards of separation
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  in the front pylon, like you like the pieces that they have on that
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  offensive side of the ball. So I understand going there for a strength and
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  I get it. For me, I'm gonna stick with I guess the low
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  hanging fruit the defense, this Jets defense that is filled with I use this
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  term a lot, especially for the forty nine ers, and I guess I
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  want to use it here. And it does make sense because you know Robert
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  Salo with his forty nine Ers roots, but the forty nine ers with their
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  defensive line like they breed veloci raptors, like that is what they do.
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  And the Jets last year started to get into that realm. Like you had
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  Quinn and Williams, who put together I don't care about who actually gets All
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  Pro nods or not, Quentin and Williams put together in All Pro season last
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  year defensive linemen absolutely him and Simmons. And what's unfortunate for Quentin and Williams
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  and really all these guys is that there's been I don't want to say renaissance,
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  but there's a ton of like legitimately top to your interior defensive lineman that
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  exists in the NFL, and so it's hard to get like a first team
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  All Pro or a second team All Pro. But Quinn Williams monster of a
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  year, dominant against the run and the pass, and then Carl Lawson,
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  only a year removed from that Achilles started to flash. I think he could
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  be even better this year or another year removed. Usually it takes you that,
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  like like an acl but even more so with the Achilles. Usually takes
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  you, you know, year two being away from that injury, to start
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  to come back into form and who you were. But it was everything else.
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  Like Bill's fans know about Bryce Huff. He's the dude who burned Quest
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  and Burry off the edge and a half a second and hurt Josh Allen's elbow.
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  But like hoff was given you reps, and Jonathan Franklin Myers was giving
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  you reps. And now you get year two of Jermaine Johnson and see what
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  he can be after falling in the first round last year. You bring in
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  Will McDonald, who the pick overall I didn't love coming out of Iowa State,
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  but he's got athleticism. You've got some pieces that you can build with
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  and knowing that he's going to be like, I don't know, the fourth
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  or fifth option overall in the D line is fine. Like the pieces they
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  have up front. You got a healthy year from CJ. Mosley last year.
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  You have one of the best corner tandems in the league with Sauce Gardener
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  in DJ Reid and the year they put together. I was gonna put a
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  graphic together for it, but I didn't think people would like it here because
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  it would be a Jets graphic. But the Jets defense last year fifth overall
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  in DVOA, fourth against the past, tenth against the run, fifth in
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  red zone DVA fourth, lowest points per game allowed at eighteen point six.
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  They had the third lowest drive success rate allowed, which measures the percentage of
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  a series that result in either a first down or a touchdown. They had
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  the sixth lowest yards allowed per drive. They had the second lowest points per
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  drive allowed. They were seventh in sacks but thirtieth in blitz rate, and
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  they were first in four man rush rate at eighty four percent because they just
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  let their dudes hunt. Their smooth Just let your four dudes run and hunt
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  like sometimes they can just win one on one. You don't even have to
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  run any stunts or games and loops, like you're just letting them win.
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  And they did all of this. This is a huge point for me.
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  They had the fourth lowest amount of takeaways last year, so they weren't this
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  defense that was like, wow, takeaways aren't predictable. That's going to come
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  down. We'll see what they can be. And I'd say part of that
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  is just the philosophy, like they play a ton of quarters on a cover
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  three. They play the cover one really on passing downs. But their whole
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  thing on defense is we want you to throw underneath because they have so much
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  speed. Quincy Williams, c J. Mosley, obviously, all their cornerbacks,
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  Michael Carter's an underrated guy. DJ Reid's fantastic five to nine guy who
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  plays Lady six foot obviously Saws Gardener. Yeah, a lot of the reason
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  is because really oftens are trying to throw into those tight windows, and when
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  they do, they usually tend to pay. So that's a great point,
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  and it's really just because like their defense works the way it's supposed to force
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  them to throw underneath. And if you decide to get greedy, then regally
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  going to be a rough day for you. We're gonna rush for and there's
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  a good chance at least one of our four guys are going to get home
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  or heat your quarterback up. We're gonna drop seven, which means we're always
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  having the numbers advantage in coverage and exactly we're gonna everything underneath. We're going
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  to force you into the kill point. We're gonna rally and tackle and choke
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  the life audio. We're gonna squeeze passing windows. We're gonna play match coverage.
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  We can also play some regular spot drop zone, or we can just
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  go straight up man and good luck getting away from DJ reader Sauce Gardner,
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  and we'll do whatever we want. And they did all so they all those
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  numbers and all these strong pieces, fourth lowest amount of takeaways and also having
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  horrible quarterback play last year. There were forty seven qbs with at least one
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  hundred attempts in twenty twenty two. Out of those forty seven qbs, Flacco
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  was thirty eighth in EPA per attempt, Zach Wilson was fortieth. I think
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  Mike White small sample size was like in the mid twenties, but he's not
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  the answer there. Flacco was also forty fifth in rating. Zach Wilson was
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  forty six in rating. Horrible year last year from a quarterback perspective and from
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  an offensive standpoint. The only shining spots he had Garrett Wilson and Bruce Hall.
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  Bruece Hall goes down. You're playing with backup offensive lineman left and right.
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  And I know it's hard to get defensive success to translate from year over
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  a year. It's hard to consistently be like a top five defense, especially
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  from an efficiency standpoint. But even if they falter a little bit, I
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  think the improvement in offense will more than balance out any potential drop for their
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  defense. But I don't really see much of a drop given the coaching staff
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  they have, their the chess piece, versatility they have, and then how
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  well coached they are, the talent, the scheme, the pieces. For
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  me, like their biggest championship contender piece is that defense. And then if
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  you just get average offensive play, it's, oh my god, you're kind
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  of golden. And that's why I did kind of go with the offense because
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  the defense, you can rely on them like they have too many good players.
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  They have too many smart players, too many veteran players. And again
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  the coaching staff, Like, if you're trying to see, okay, how
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  consistent is this team going to be from year to year? A lot of
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  the time, the coaching staff is going to be the biggest indicator because continuity
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  matters so much in the NFL. So that's why my brand kind of goes
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  to Okay, if Rogers and Wilson are on Buyer and again the offensive line
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  is crucial. Yes, they're together, and Rogers doesn't have to worry about
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  you know, I'm on my back foot, reach the top of my drop.
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  If this ball doesn't come out comfortably, then I'm gonna have to make
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  some magic or I'm uncomfortable. He's old enough where it's not like a No
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  Knox, but like a Josh Allen where sometimes because the inconsistency in the trenches,
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  sometimes you know, there's that hero mentality. And I think if Rogers
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  again is comfortable and knows that he has a weapon that he can rely on
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  most of the time, with all the other guys he has to compliment Garrett
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  Wilson, who again is a true number one receiver. I really do think
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  the Jets were legit playoff contender. Absolutely, I'm not. I don't want
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  to dive into this too much. R J. I love you, I
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  holistically disagree with you. J says the Jets defense is grossly overrated. They
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  were historically healthy on defense, not a single starter, miss time, faced
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  five backup qbs and we're only fifth and Dvoway Bills were fourth with awful injuries.
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  I understand your point, but you also put in front of you that's
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  that point one no good too. You also have to think of what the
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  Jets offense did to the Jets defense, how often the Jets defense was on
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  the field and put into negative situations. And again I'm not saying they're,
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  oh my god, they're this amazing defense, but saying grossly overrated, like
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  I disagree with that, like that was a good unit last year and for
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  all the Bills woes. I mean, then for me, then you're saying
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  that the Bills offense is overrated or the Bills offense is bad because the Jets
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  gave the Bills offense problems both times. And I know the Bills won the
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  second one and could have won the first without some crazy turnovers, but the
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  Jets defense on the back end and on the second level and up front,
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  they're a problem. Like, they're good, and I would predict another top
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  ten finish for them. Are they gonna be top five? We'll see.
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  But that's a good that's a good defense and a good unit and on that
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  side of the ball. All right, now, Taylor, for you your
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  biggest question mark for this Jets team offensive line. Honestly, this is going
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  to be a theme throughout the afcast because I really do think that the trenches
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  are going to decide largely. I don't not entirely, because there's so many
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  other talent to players and talented units, but the offensive line is going to
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  be the biggest factor, especially for the Jets, a team that it seems
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  like every single year they draft this freak athlete who's so talented, and we
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  sing his praises, and the poor guy ends up missing the entire year because
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  of some horrible injury. Most of the year because of a bad injury.
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  You had Dwayne Brown last year, who is a highly respected tackle, was
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  playing with one shoulder. Like they just cannot get a stroke of luck when
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  it comes to their offensive line health, the health in general, but especially
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  in the trenches, because at least if you have a good offensive lineman,
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  you can have decent backs, you can have an okay quarterback, and they
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  can develop confidence knowing that they don't have to take over. Like I was
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  saying with the you know, Zach Wilson, I feel like that's a lot
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  of this, although you know he's got his own issues as well, that's
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  all, but it builds your confidence in your offense when they're like, our
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  hogs are good. Now we have to execute to our individual ability and that's
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  not the case when you got three backups on your offensive line. You just
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  cannot function with a certain level of confidence because of how integral those units are.
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  So I mean that's that is I guess also low hanging fruit when you
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  talk about the potential pitfalls. But I mean with really again, with all
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  these teams, offensive line feels like it's gonna be the deciding factor of who
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  ranks where exactly. But for the Jets most of all, because they've just
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  been shafted recently recently for a while, I'm in a similar boat with you
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  there with the offensive line, and it's I don't I don't want to predict
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  injuries or make it a thing. But it's been several years in a row
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  where the Jets offensive line just cannot stay healthy. And to the point that
• 20:34
  I'm like, Okay, is it the players they have? Is it their
• 20:38
  workout routine or regiment? Yeah, exactly? Is it the training staff?
• 20:41
  Like they just everyreat did they get? Do you remember what they got in
• 20:45
  that survey? Oh? No, I don't. I just know the Cardinals
• 20:48
  were awful and everybody I just remembered that. Yeah, honestly, maybe look
• 20:51
  into that later or something, because yeah, it can't be great. Everybody's
• 20:55
  like, I'm everyone gets hurt here. I'm scared. Yeah, they just
• 20:57
  they just can't stay healthy. And how you're You're sitting there and you're looking
• 21:00
  like, okay, is Dwayne Brown? Can he stay healthy? Like given
• 21:03
  his age in the mileage on the tires? What Elijah Vera Tucker looked like
• 21:07
  coming back from the injury. Are you going to get anything out of Mackay
• 21:10
  Beckton? Are you starting Joe Titman potentially, like and where and what are
• 21:12
  you doing? And you know, I like the Billy Turner piece of depth
• 21:18
  for them, but it's just a group that has not been able to stay
• 21:22
  healthy. And for a quarterback who is more pocket based than he used to
• 21:26
  be in his prime, you need to have protection up front. And I
• 21:30
  think that's an area of concern for me. Slightly behind that, and just
• 21:33
  to mention it kind of for a Devil's advocate perspective. My biggest question too
• 21:37
  is not necessarily because I'm holistically doubting him. I just wonder what kind of
• 21:41
  Aaron Rodgers are you going to get? Like, yeah, like he for
• 21:47
  the numbers I mentioned last year with those you know, the EPA numbers for
• 21:51
  the Jets, So again, forty seven qbs had at least one hundred attempts
• 21:56
  in twenty twenty two. Mike White was twenty fourth in EPA, Joe Flacco
• 22:00
  was thirty eighth in EPA, Zach Wilson was fortieth in EPA. Aaron Rodgers
• 22:03
  was forty first an EPA, and granted he turned some things around last year.
• 22:07
  They had a better run down the stretch and what they were able to
• 22:10
  do. But my biggest question is, yeah, just what kind of Aaron
• 22:12
  Rodgers do you get? Because again I don't think they need prime MVP Aaron
• 22:18
  Rodgers, which you know, maybe they can tap into a bit with Nathaniel
• 22:22
  Hackett coming over and he was, you know, oc for Aaron Rodgers with
• 22:25
  a couple of those MVPs, you know, those past several years in Green
• 22:27
  Bay, in the last couple before Hackett jump ship. You don't need Aaron
• 22:32
  Rodgers to be like prime, top ten, top five, Aaron Rodgers just
• 22:34
  be a quarterback that's like fifteenth to eleventh. Just have our offense be average
• 22:40
  or slightly above average, and you pair it with that defense. This team
• 22:42
  almost made the playoffs last year with no semblance of offense. Third string offensive
• 22:48
  lineman, their best offensive player goes down early and brees hal They got no
• 22:52
  quarterback play. Even their weapons are getting hurt. Corey Davis looks good and
• 22:56
  then he's getting banged up. They had a walking wounded roup on offense and
• 23:00
  not a lot of talent, and they still almost pulled a playoffs spot together.
• 23:03
  So it's the offense offensive line is number one. But then tying into
• 23:07
  it, how much of an upgrade is Aaron Rodgers And because again, if
• 23:11
  he's just halfway decent, that's a huge improvement for this offense. And I
• 23:15
  think the Jets are a legitimate scary team, not only in the AFC East,
• 23:21
  but in the AFC in general, because defense travels, defense plays,
• 23:25
  and if you have an offense that's led by Aaron Rodgers who just knows how
• 23:27
  to press the right buttons with some upgraded weapons in this offense around him with
• 23:32
  a true number one, and if he gets a healthy offensive line, like,
• 23:36
  that's a scary team. But I do think it's a big question was
• 23:38
  were the poor spurts of Aaron Rodgers last year who he is now? Or
• 23:42
  you know, was he so mentally checked out that he's like, I don't
• 23:45
  want to play here. This sucks and that's why he was so poor last
• 23:48
  year. And I'll say real quick, just close out. Sure. In
• 23:52
  the Patriots game last year, it was early in the season, but I
• 23:56
  think you saw it was kind of a microcosm of what that situation was because
• 24:00
  in the first half of the game, Rogers was off, like his accuracy
• 24:03
  was not good. It was one of those games where you say, okay,
• 24:06
  is the old guy? You know, are the wheels falling off?
• 24:08
  The second half he was like, Okay, they don't have a single corner
• 24:11
  who's about five to ten. We're going downfield like we're being aggressive and the
• 24:15
  throws he was making, It's like, oh, yeah, no, he's
• 24:18
  still Aaron Rodgers because he did not turn it off, like he really didn't
• 24:22
  flip that switch. So and again with a lot of these Hall of Fame
• 24:26
  quarterbacks, the question isn't really can he physically do it? As long as
• 24:30
  the guy doesn't have a significant injury history, usually they have the fiscal ability
• 24:34
  to play pretty much as long as they like have the willpower to go through
• 24:40
  an NFL schedule. So I'm not concerned about Rogers physically in his talent,
• 24:44
  it really is what's around him. And again with Garrett Wilson as the very
• 24:48
  at least a binkie who you know, if everyone else's complimentary, and it's
• 24:52
  okay, we can focus on Garret Wilson, but they will kill us by
• 24:56
  going everywhere else because Rogers is smart enough, he's you're enough, he's seen
• 25:00
  enough, and you're not really going to trick him. I do think that's
• 25:03
  going to push them over the limit. But again it's it's got to have
• 25:06
  the protection as especially as an older guy who can't really extend on his own.
• 25:10
  It's gonna start with that old line exactly like you said, and for
• 25:12
  all the jokes of everybody he brought in like a wide receiver room of Garrett
• 25:18
  Wilson, Al Lazard, Mikol Hardman, Corey Davis, and Randall Cobb.
• 25:22
  And then maybe you know what you see what you get with the ghost of
• 25:25
  Denzel Mims. That's actually a pretty like good unit from a dynamic perspective,
• 25:29
  in pieces perspective, and then complimentary is out absolutely and you see what you
• 25:33
  get from Bruce Hall. But I also I really like Michael Carter running back
• 25:37
  Michael Carter, not slack corner Michael Carter, which pisses me off that they
• 25:40
  got two players any yes, oh stupid, but you know our two of
• 25:44
  them? I guess Yeah, like they got a unit. And if they
• 25:45
  stay healthy with the offensive line, which you can say for a lot of
• 25:48
  people, but even more with this team, I think the Jets could make
• 25:52
  more noise than Bill's fans want to give them credit for. We are maybe
• 25:55
  the only duo that could talk about the Jets for half an hour. Look
• 25:59
  at us, Look at us, Look at us. I love that Paul
• 26:02
  redgift. Look at us. That's one of my favorite literally not me.
• 26:06
  If you asked how why we were going to talk about the Jets going in,
• 26:07
  I would not have even I'm high on the Jets, and I'm even
• 26:11
  highed because last year, going into the first Bills Jets game, I told
• 26:14
  everybody in the show, who did I have on from the Athletic wherever covers
• 26:18
  the Jets for The Athletic, apologize if he ever sees this, and it's
• 26:22
  like, you don't remember my name? I hate you now. And I
• 26:23
  remember going in, I was like, the Jets are better than people think,
• 26:26
  Like the Jets could win this game. In everybody, all Bills fans
• 26:29
  came out of the corner on Twitter and on the show and we're like,
• 26:30
  you're an idiot, Like that's ridiculous. The Jets suck their fake and then
• 26:33
  the Jets won, and I was like, Jets are also like designed to
• 26:36
  beat Josh Allen everything that he hates absolutely, And you know what's also like
• 26:41
  now Robert sala he saw him his last year in San Francisco, and now
• 26:44
  he just he has a bunch of him on tape and knows what's up and
• 26:47
  he got better pieces. Just hope he doesn't do what he did to Belichick,
• 26:52
  where Belichick really had Alan's number. I feel like the first couple of
• 26:55
  years where he would at least go to him into a couple like significant mistakes.
• 27:00
  Ye, and then it was like by year three he was like,
• 27:03
  no, it is so bizarre how Belichick will literally throw the kitchen's sake at
• 27:07
  Josh. And even if he's not, like, you know, playing to
• 27:11
  the superhuman level that we saw in the player in the wild card round Matt
• 27:15
  Jones' rookie year, at the very least he's not making those bad mistakes he
• 27:18
  makes against the Jets where you look and you're like, this is like Wisconsin,
• 27:22
  Josh Allen, this is what we thought he was past this and against
• 27:26
  the Jets were one of the only teams that brought that out of him consistently,
• 27:30
  consistently. But yeah, you got you gotta put some respect on the
• 27:33
  Jets name, and they're only going to be better. Absolutely. Man,
• 27:37
  it's funny they were sitting here being like, yeah, Alan does so good
• 27:40
  against Belichick, but man, Robert Stilo recently, it's just no disrespect to
• 27:42
  Robert Sile. But yeah, it's just funny how that little piece, he's
• 27:45
  still young in the division. We'll see him. See it happens. Let's
• 27:48
  kick it over to your world, mainly New England Patriot's twenty twenty three.
• 27:55
  They finished third in twenty twenty two, um partly because they love the Buffalo
• 28:00
  Bills. In the last regular season game of the season in Buffalo, multiple
• 28:03
  kick return touchdowns for nickim Hines. Sorry, it wasn't legitimately wasn't rubbing an
• 28:07
  and just recapping it because it's fun sometimes. I'll tell you real quick.
• 28:10
  I was sitting I was working with that Shin staff, so like we sit
• 28:12
  kind of in the same area with each other. We're all watching different games,
• 28:15
  and by then it was like it was one of the only games that
• 28:18
  everybody was locked in on. Man, I was like rooting. I was
• 28:22
  literally rooting for the Bills because the circumstances and everything. I was like,
• 28:27
  hey, the first kick return touchdown especially, I was like, you know
• 28:30
  what, whatever, I'm happy for Buffalo. Awesome for them. Second one,
• 28:33
  I was like, no, ep, this, like this, what
• 28:37
  the hell was going on? I'm pissed. Yeah, every's like in fun
• 28:40
  of me, Like I'm sitting there taking all the heat, but yeah,
• 28:41
  I'm on a Bills pod, so yeah, you got me. Everyone.
• 28:45
  I don't care about the good will anymore. I'm no. I was like,
• 28:48
  I'm trying to be a decent human being and you're taking advantage of me.
• 28:52
  But no, that was I mean they did it to themselves, like
• 28:56
  you don't have a good enough team. That is what it is. Um
• 28:57
  it sucks seeing them as this is. They were possibly pulling that out,
• 29:00
  but I mean they got beat by a better team and it is what it
• 29:03
  is. So there you go, there you go, Buffalo, you got
• 29:07
  me. At least you're not better. I mean, I don't even you
• 29:11
  can't even be upset. You had like seventy five super Bowls in like ten
• 29:15
  years or however long. It was just the Map season. Tom Brady ruined
• 29:22
  the Raiders game. Do you understand what the Raiders game did to me?
• 29:23
  I forgot that, Like mentally, yeah, I was, so do you
• 29:29
  know what Tom Brady has done to an entire city? Do you know how
• 29:32
  scarred I am as a person because of the Patriots existence? Fair? I
• 29:37
  tried, I tried, Yeah, you're right now, you don't know,
• 29:41
  right, you don't know pain, You're right, you're right thinking you're sadness.
• 29:45
  I had like a season that Cam Newton and I was like, this
• 29:48
  is the worst thing that's happened to anyone, Like, what God, why
• 29:51
  me? But yeah, no, I I don't have any perspective. I'm
• 29:53
  sorry, I respect, but it's you know, it's it's been rough out
• 29:56
  here in the first world. Shut up, here's such a joke. All
• 30:00
  right, twenty twenty three pads, we'll clean with their strengths. Um,
• 30:03
  where do you think the strength of this team lies in terms of what makes
• 30:07
  them a potential AFC East title contender. I'm just gonna I'm gonna cheat a
• 30:12
  little bit here. I'm gonna say the run game. But like, this
• 30:15
  is the NFL, this is the modern NFL, So realistically, the run
• 30:18
  games is not gonna get you too far. But you have to say,
• 30:19
  Romander Stevenson is their best off Romander Stevenson and Mike on one, who are
• 30:23
  their two best offensive players? What do those guys do best running the run
• 30:29
  game? So, um, I do think that's the strength of this team,
• 30:32
  and I do think it's something that they'll probably lean on when push comes
• 30:34
  to shove. But beyond that, I do think their size of receiver is
• 30:40
  gonna be where they what they kind of rely on. You got Mike the
• 30:42
  sicky got DeVante Parker. You got Hunter Henry Kendrick Bourne, who you know,
• 30:47
  you don't really think of in that capacity, but he's had some like
• 30:48
  absurd contested catches where he high points and takes away from guys. Uh yeah,
• 30:53
  yeah, sorry, I'm giving you guys all the love. I'm you're
• 30:59
  completely right, But yeah, the receiving game, because they don't have a
• 31:03
  lot of proven separator. They don't only have any proven separators Juju Smith,
• 31:06
  Schuster another guy who's size, you don't expect them to separate. You hope
• 31:10
  Taekwon Thornton can be that guy. I think Kendrick Borne, in the right
• 31:12
  circumstance and the right matchups, can be that guy. But then you also
• 31:17
  rely on Bill O'Brien, like this is an offense where you don't look at
• 31:21
  like, oh, I'm not scared of mac Jones and his weapons. You're
• 31:22
  scared of Bill O'Brien because if you have any weakness on your defense, he's
• 31:27
  gonna find it. He's gonna push that nerve. And you hope, as
• 31:32
  a Patriots follower that Mac Jones is going to be able to capitalize at least
• 31:36
  to find those matchups put the ball where it needs to be and just be
• 31:40
  the distributor. What you saw with kind of like Tom Brady in twenty eleven.
• 31:42
  Obviously you had two Hall of Fame caliber tight ends, but at the
• 31:47
  same time, Brady's role that season, because he didn't have the burners at
• 31:49
  receiver, was find the matchup, exploit it, keep the chains moving.
• 31:52
  And I do think the Patriots can be that team where again because especially you
• 31:57
  drive the ball, keep yourself on schedule without making stupid mistakes, and then
• 32:01
  you've got the size in the red zone where you've got like four legitimate guys
• 32:06
  who could win a one on one ball. I'm like, there's even one
• 32:08
  guy on the field who's under six feet. So run game. But I
• 32:13
  also say that with a caveat off, like it's the NFL, very few
• 32:15
  teams can get to a Super Bowl with the run game and in the passing
• 32:19
  game, because that's an area that very fairly is getting some criticism in New
• 32:23
  England. I would say it's their size of receiver. Also, I completely
• 32:27
  forgot that we were allowed to say defense on this. That's the second time
• 32:30
  I did that in a row. I forgot. Oh my god, I
• 32:32
  completely botched that. But you know, what hey, you're hearing from a
• 32:36
  Patriots student of their scheme and everything you know they're not. The offense isn't
• 32:42
  dead in the water, and now you can talk about their defense. I'd
• 32:44
  honestly love to hear your perspective more than I'd like to hear mind. So
• 32:46
  that that is my biggest strength for them, is this Patriots defense. Like
• 32:51
  still living in a world where so many teams now want to be too high
• 32:55
  and the whole idea of like changing pre to post snap and two high shelves
• 32:59
  which just too I post snap coverages, yadiyan and all that kind of stuff.
• 33:01
  But the Pats sit there last year fifty seven percent middle of the field
• 33:06
  closed coverages last year number one by a good, good chunk, thirteen percent
• 33:13
  three man rush rate, just like all these weird things that like they're leaning
• 33:16
  into and you're like, why are they doing this? What are they doing?
• 33:19
  And but but they're so they're so fun from a defensive perspective because of
• 33:23
  how multiple they are. They finished third and DV away last year. But
• 33:28
  the tape is really and you're always posting really good stuff, like just the
• 33:30
  little pieces of watching them. It looks like cover one pre snap, and
• 33:35
  then all of a sudden, like they're dropping into like Tampa two, and
• 33:37
  you're like what, Like how did we get here? And then you're like
• 33:40
  yes. And then part of why they can get there is because you know
• 33:45
  there's eleven starters on defense, but they're putting like eight safeties out there,
• 33:47
  and you're like, who's coming from where, who's doing what? Who who's
• 33:52
  gonna play at the second level, Who's going into the slot? Is it
• 33:54
  man? Is it zone? Are they matching? Are they is it going
• 33:59
  to be split coverage? Like what's going on? Is it going to be
• 34:00
  single high? Who's the post safety? What are they're doing? What are
• 34:02
  they doing? You lose Devin mccordy, which I do think is a blow
• 34:07
  to that defense. But and I mentioned when I was on your show this
• 34:10
  week, I love Christian Gonzalez. He was my corner one last year,
• 34:15
  and I really don't think I can envision a better fit for him, given
• 34:17
  scheme plus his skill set than with the New England Patriots. Like his man
• 34:22
  coverage ability, his athleticism, his fluidity. He's already turning heads at camping
• 34:27
  in practices. You know you're there, you see him in person. I
• 34:30
  think he will acclimate well to the system. I think he will continue to
• 34:32
  grow with that defense. And then I mean if j continues to be what
• 34:37
  he was last year, which was an absolute menace and a terror and your
• 34:42
  parent and with Judeon and Kyle Dugger who I absolutely love and became like a
• 34:45
  legitimate like kind of tight end stopper piece last year, who can play at
• 34:50
  the second level as like an off ball linebacker in some subpackage work, or
• 34:53
  play in the slot or blitz or cover man or just really all of these
• 34:58
  versatile chess pieces they can lean into from a package standpoint alignment, standpoint coverage,
• 35:04
  standpoint front, standpoint. That is their biggest strength, like their defensive
• 35:07
  versatility. But it's not so many people I think want versatility. And then
• 35:14
  it's like, well, then you set yourself up like for versatility for versatility's
• 35:16
  sake, and it's just like, yeah, we got a bunch of Like
• 35:20
  yes, it's like, oh, you just got a bunch of chess pieces.
• 35:22
  Cool, Like being a jack of all trades and a master of none
• 35:24
  like isn't necessarily ideal, But the Pats have a guys who are a jack
• 35:29
  of all trades and then master of several and they can just lean into kind
• 35:32
  of whatever they want based on the opponent that week. And you know what,
• 35:37
  maybe this is a game where Jabill Preppers only sees like twenty percent of
• 35:39
  snaps, and then next week he's seeing seventy five percent of snaps. Maybe
• 35:43
  this is a week where you know, we put Dugger more into the box,
• 35:45
  you know, and next week we're gonna use them more as an apex
• 35:47
  and all of these pieces that you can do. They had a good unit
• 35:51
  last year. I think everything with Matt Patricia and Matt Jones from a negative
• 35:54
  standpoint overshadowed how good of a year defensively they had. Were sounds schematically,
• 36:00
  they were really good on tape, They showed well in a lot of advanced
• 36:02
  metrics. I think the strength for them for me lies with that defensive group
• 36:08
  and then tying into you know, I'll kick it back to you for the
• 36:13
  concerns, I'll be brief with mine, and again it's it's not necessarily a
• 36:15
  concern, it's more just the question piece what do they look like under Bill
• 36:20
  O'Brien, who is a you know, battle tested OC. How much of
• 36:23
  what happened last year was completely on Matt Patricia. I think a decent amount
• 36:28
  of it was is you know, um, but what is Mac Jones truly?
• 36:31
  What does what does his supporting casts look like? How does the offensive
• 36:36
  line function? How do they do with having like you like what you mentioned,
• 36:39
  this wide receiver group that has size and jump all ability but doesn't really
• 36:44
  separate Ken O'Brien, get Mac Jones back, you know, on track to
• 36:49
  kind of showing the flashes he showed in his rookie year and early on.
• 36:52
  I do think what will help them they'll answer those questions, And you mentioned
• 36:54
  is one of your strengths that run game is tremendous. Romander Stevenson is fantastic,
• 36:58
  And especially if they continue to leaning their gap scheme stuff and just mall
• 37:00
  people up front and run downhill and create space, I think that will help
• 37:05
  a bit. But that's my biggest question for them. What does this offense
• 37:07
  look like? How good is Mac Jones? How much of last year's struggles
• 37:12
  were really because of Matt Patricia or was a decent chunk of them due to
• 37:16
  some of the limitations of mac Jones. I think we'll get more of an
• 37:19
  answer, you know, when he's paired with a legitimate oc who knows what
• 37:22
  he's doing. No disrespect Matt Patricia. But what about you, what's your
• 37:25
  biggest question for the Pats? Yeah? Also, that was all completely fair,
• 37:29
  and Mac was not perfect last year. I think it's taken me time,
• 37:31
  honestly, like as far as we've gotten further from the season, because
• 37:36
  the offensive situation was so bad and that fundamentally we're talking like ots and mini
• 37:40
  camp. We're now everyone's looking happy and the offense looks functional and last year
• 37:45
  like balls were hitting the ground right. Yeah, people, and it's so
• 37:49
  and when it's so dysfunctional, it's hard for you to evaluate the person or
• 37:52
  the players because the system in the scheme is so bad. You're like,
• 37:55
  you have to watch. It's so much harder to watch tape. And myself
• 38:00
  an air turner on the film where we talk about it all the time.
• 38:01
  Bad tape takes you so much longer to watch because you have to diagnose and
• 38:06
  dissect all the problems to figure out what the source point is of the problem.
• 38:10
  Yeah, exactly, Like I have not really gone back to the well
• 38:14
  of what they did last year. I've went to the positives just because the
• 38:16
  negatives it's like yes. Again, like Mac was not perfect, he did
• 38:20
  and again this is what took me a minute. He did regress in some
• 38:22
  ways that I just was like, I want to put that on the offense.
• 38:25
  The quarterback has to have some capability. But you know, we talked
• 38:29
  about fundamentally, they were trying to install the Kyle Shanahan wide zone outside zone
• 38:34
  scheme, and because they didn't have manatricious offensive coordinator and an offensive line coach,
• 38:38
  that is literally literally impossible. I didn't understand. I didn't. And
• 38:43
  you don't have an offensive line for zone. You don't have this athletics in
• 38:45
  space. Oh and the thing is you can scheme for it, Like if
• 38:49
  you want to go wide zone pin pull, there's ways to get around if
• 38:52
  you don't have a hyper athletic line. But like your back is better at
• 38:54
  that, there's ways if you're a good offensive line coach to find ways around
• 38:59
  it. Make adjustment. I like this, look, we can run this
• 39:00
  against that. The problem was they didn't even understand fundamentally how to adjust to
• 39:06
  different looks, how to pass things off. So they couldn't run the wide
• 39:09
  zone. Then they couldn't even use the boot things that they had installed off
• 39:13
  of it, So then you have an entire chunk of the playbook. They
• 39:16
  didn't. I think they ran outside zone the ten percent of runs last year.
• 39:20
  They didn't run play action because when you think of the Patriots, you
• 39:22
  think Josh McDaniels loves to pull the guard. He could look like power linebackers
• 39:27
  have no choice but to fit up. They did that I think three times
• 39:31
  last year, and I didn't know why. It didn't make any sense to
• 39:36
  me, but they couldn't do it. So again, I'm going too long
• 39:37
  on the Patriots. I don't want to drown you guys and all this stuff,
• 39:40
  but all the kind of side that's good. This is going to talk
• 39:44
  about how bad the pats are. Everyone here is like, yes, tell
• 39:46
  me that this is the meat of the podcast. Sorry, but so,
• 39:50
  I mean, honestly tied to that is you think of the offensive line,
• 39:52
  they didn't know how to block a certain scheme. They couldn't therefore run play
• 39:55
  action off of it. Not only health among the offensive line, and like
• 40:00
  Trent Brown, not necessarily health, but in terms of fitness, he didn't
• 40:01
  look great in many camp. He was there for literally one day after he
• 40:05
  missed a flight because he did not plan it well, which is not acceptable
• 40:07
  with the Patriots. And then he only showed up for a few minutes and
• 40:10
  then went to a lower field. So he's one of the better left tackles
• 40:14
  in football. But if he doesn't play for you, then you're talking about
• 40:16
  Calvin Anderson and Connor McDermott or Riley Reefs starting at both tackle spots. That's
• 40:22
  not good. That gives you maybe the worst offensive tackle depth in the AFC
• 40:27
  East. And that's where I say the offensive line depth for all of these
• 40:30
  teams is probably going to be the deciding factor of where they end up.
• 40:34
  And the Patriot their interior. I think it's fantastic Mike and when do I
• 40:37
  hope they extend him or at least resign him when the time comes. He's
• 40:39
  a fantastic guard. David Andrews, he is what he is at this point.
• 40:44
  He's one of the better centers because he's smart, he's tough, he's
• 40:46
  beloved. And then Cole Strange showed a lot of good things with Adrian Clem.
• 40:51
  Now is the offensive line coach that he's going to take a step forward
• 40:53
  and kind of for all the indent like, oh yeah, Cole Strange snugaha,
• 40:59
  and like McVeigh came out and said, like made his joke, and
• 41:01
  everybody's just ragging on Belichick for making that pick so early. Cole Strange had
• 41:06
  a good year. I know you've watched him a bunch like he had a
• 41:07
  good year for the past and he and Pfare he did struggle. Like one
• 41:10
  thing I talked about with Brandon Thorn, he has a habit. He doesn't
• 41:13
  have great independent hand usage. Basically it means use one hand and then you're
• 41:16
  allowed you can use the other hand to basically react to what the other guys
• 41:20
  doing. Give you control if you shoot both of your hands. A smart
• 41:23
  defensive lineman will see that on tape, wait for you to do it,
• 41:27
  swipe your hands away and then gets a quarterback. Quinny Williams did it like
• 41:30
  everybody in the AFC is basically was just feasting on Cole Strange because he had
• 41:34
  that one bad weakness. But outside of that he was really good. So
• 41:37
  yeah, you hope the offensive tackle depth is better, but really, if
• 41:42
  Trent Brown isn't in shape to play or isn't someone you can rely on,
• 41:45
  if you have one bad tackle, you can kind of scheme around, especially
• 41:49
  Bill O'Brien, who's big on Max and protect for play action. He's big
• 41:52
  on getting the ball out quickly. It's not like Ma Patricio where you're gonna
• 41:54
  have fifteen yard routes when it's the third and five and then Matt Jones just
• 41:59
  sitting there like dot dot dot dot. Oh my god, you know.
• 42:01
  But it's fine because Matt mac Jones is supermobile and he can go absolutely strength
• 42:07
  of his as we all know, like on the bootleg that Matt Patricia called
• 42:09
  up like third and fifteen and Mac literally I don't think got a yard against
• 42:14
  Max Scrosbans, Matt, Matt Jones, White Lamar Jackson if Lamar Jackson were
• 42:20
  like sapped of all his athleticism and all his superpowers. Um, but yeah,
• 42:24
  offensive line for the Patriots, offensive tackles specifically is a major, major
• 42:30
  red flag for them. I think defensively, special teams. I think they've
• 42:32
  gotten better on both sides. Volume of defense is already good. Special teams.
• 42:37
  I think it's gonna do a one eighty from a unit that was a
• 42:38
  legitimate, serious liability as which is super surprising with a Bill Belichick coach team
• 42:45
  like they are. Usually the horses he got. It's horses he got,
• 42:46
  and then they got Chris board who Belichick raved about. Um, oh my
• 42:51
  god, I'm now now I'm gonna piss off Bills fans and talking about the
• 42:53
  Patriots special teams. Um. But yeah, the offensive tackle depth. If
• 42:57
  they were gonna sink this season, it's gonna because of that. I think
• 43:00
  it's fair, I really no, But it's good again, just just sprinkling
• 43:06
  the negatives and the and the oh no, New England's bad. It's something
• 43:09
  type thing. People are gonna eat it up here. You gotta play your
• 43:12
  crown. You know what you're doing. I try to be fair everyone,
• 43:14
  and you're a man of the people. I respect it and I like it.
• 43:16
  Miami Dolphins a team that I don't even want to make a joke.
• 43:22
  I just I'm not gonna say anything the twenty twenty three Miami Dolphins. Let's
• 43:27
  lean into again. We'll start with the optimism. What is the biggest strength
• 43:30
  for this team? If you're looking at the piece that makes them a championship
• 43:35
  contender or in this case, an AFC East Crown potentially claiming team, what
• 43:42
  do you think makes them the biggest what's their biggest piece in making them an
• 43:45
  AFC's contender. I did not forget defense this time. I remember that I'm
• 43:50
  allowed to pick defense. But as much as I want to say Jalen Ramsey,
• 43:53
  because that was a huge move I think for them, especially in Fangio's
• 43:58
  scheme, which is no, you're in, I've got to say Tyreek Hill.
• 44:04
  Okay, not only is he the fastest man alive. If your entire
• 44:07
  life is football and you don't know anything else, he's the fastest man that
• 44:10
  ever lived. But on top of that, he I think he showed it
• 44:14
  at times in his career, and because he was with Travis Kelsey and Mahomes,
• 44:16
  it wasn't appreciated as much. He's a legit winner where I think he
• 44:22
  legitimately won forty eight percent of his contested target. And he's a better route
• 44:24
  runner than he gets credit for. Everybody's just like, well, he's super
• 44:28
  fast. It's like yeah, but he knows how to use the speed.
• 44:30
  I was going to post it the other day, but I didn't want to
• 44:32
  piss off by bats Ballowers. But it's like, if Tyreek Hill wants to
• 44:36
  run it deep out, he's running a deep out and you're not going to
• 44:38
  do anything about it because you have to keep your your hips up field to
• 44:42
  respect him going vertical. And the second he decelerates, it's outlook what am
• 44:45
  I supposed to And he's over the guy? Yeah, and he sinks his
• 44:50
  hips and he's got ankle flections and he's out of that cut and you're just
• 44:52
  like, how do I defend that? Like? What am I doing?
• 44:55
  The speed is what he bases everything else off up and he really is a
• 44:59
  game chip ge and Saw with two of like I really do like ta and
• 45:02
  he does so many things better than I think people give him credit. Forties
• 45:06
  good processor. He has his times where he gets locked on, but his
• 45:08
  accuracy shorts intermediate, Like he's really really good, And if you talk about
• 45:13
  that specific element of his game, he's one of the better quarterbacks in the
• 45:15
  league. But even Saw against the Chargers, they took away the middle of
• 45:20
  the field. All it took was one deep ball to Tyreek Hill on a
• 45:22
  go route where he literally just ran past the guy and you've got a long
• 45:25
  touchdown. So when you have someone like Tyreek Hill, defense is great.
• 45:29
  But at the same time, as Tyreek Hill is shown throughout his entire career,
• 45:32
  he can completely change a game if it's tight and it's a one score
• 45:37
  game or contest or whatever. You give him forty seconds and he can immediately
• 45:40
  swing the game and the other team's favors. So it's got to be Tyreek
• 45:44
  Hill in my opinion. But the thing is, and I say that understanding
• 45:46
  they have so many really talented players, there's some holes on offense and I
• 45:52
  think again offensive lines the base one didn't ahead of myself a little bit more,
• 45:55
  but just want to emphasize Tyreek Hill. Like They've got a lot of
• 45:59
  strengths, but Tyree Hill was just fantastic, and he's got to be the
• 46:00
  reason that you say, yeah, if they're gonna be deep in the playoffs,
• 46:05
  it's because tagri Kill had a good couple of games. I went,
• 46:07
  So my biggest strength is somewhat related to this. I went more structural or
• 46:13
  higher level. I went. The biggest piece that makes them I know,
• 46:16
  I mean, I mean, I'm the host, so I have to try
• 46:19
  and like show out. Yeah, not to completely shit on everything you said,
• 46:24
  but that's what I think, um I and I know people are gonna
• 46:29
  be upset. I think the biggest piece that makes them a contender is Mike
• 46:32
  McDaniel, and I know, I know he rubs a lot of people the
• 46:37
  wrong way, like so a lot of people find him pretentious and obnoxious and
• 46:40
  really douchey and annoying, and it's hilarious. I find him funny, Like
• 46:46
  he doesn't annoy me too much, even when I know I should hate him.
• 46:50
  And I remember last year, Oh, oh, I'm the athletic.
• 46:54
  Robert May's had Pierre Garson on who played wide receiver under McDaniel, I believe
• 47:00
  in Washington, and yeah, when McDaniel was a wide receiver coach there and
• 47:06
  just talked about how all the players love playing for him and how tremendously smart
• 47:10
  he was. And then I remember connecting it with there was another interview might
• 47:14
  have been the same episode or some other piece that I know was said where
• 47:17
  McDaniel had said or the belief about him was because he didn't play football,
• 47:22
  he feels or felt that he had to have the right answer all the time
• 47:27
  in order to maintain credibility and have respect from people because he didn't play the
• 47:30
  game, so he has to be right with everything he's saying and everything he's
• 47:35
  doing from an X is an O standpoint, and Yeah, ar Jie comes
• 47:37
  in and says, I hate McDaniel. Yeah, I get it. He
• 47:40
  runs a lot of people to want to play. But man like whether even
• 47:44
  if you find him in likable and annoying or pretentious or whatever, he's impressive
• 47:49
  schematically, not to a I don't want to like tear TWA down. But
• 47:52
  McDaniel turned that Dolphin offense into like a point and shoot offense for twa where
• 47:58
  he was just reading windows and finding windows and everything was on rhythm. Everything
• 48:04
  the routes, the timing, the design. And it's not just because he's
• 48:06
  got good players. He knows where to put them and put them into advantageous
• 48:10
  positions for themselves and for the offense. He gets the most out of his
• 48:14
  guys. One of the pieces that I love studying and breaking down in preparation
• 48:17
  for the second Bills Dolphins game, the Saturday night snow game, there arepo
• 48:22
  pass play that is basically just a combination of a slide route or a flat
• 48:25
  route. Yep, the seam and the wheel. Those are the three routes
• 48:29
  that are happening, and he can get to it out of different personnel groups,
• 48:32
  out of different alignments. Sometimes they'll be static sometimes they're in motion.
• 48:37
  Sometimes the slide or the flat is alec Engold, sometimes it's it was Mike
• 48:40
  Kasiki. Sometimes it was transher Field. Sometimes it was Waddle and did you
• 48:45
  know sometimes too his read he doesn't actually have a read. It's just a
• 48:49
  pass. Like. It's kind of that that Lamar Jackson situation where it's like,
• 48:52
  if we're just really good at one thing, if they can't beat it,
• 48:55
  then we don't have to pretend like, oh, Lamar Jackson is thinking
• 48:58
  about carry it, Like no, if there's a two hundred fifty pound linebacker
• 49:00
  round there, Lamar's keeping it. And it was the same thing if you
• 49:04
  got a good matchup and Tyreek Hills one in motion one on that wheel route,
• 49:07
  you're not throwing the ball. There's not a snowball stands no. Yeah,
• 49:09
  so you're just going like, yeah, we're gonna go through the motions
• 49:12
  and it's like an RPO pass, but it's one hundred percent of pass because
• 49:15
  we know the look we're gonna get, we know the matchup we're gonna get.
• 49:16
  And he designed that. He got to it week after week after week,
• 49:21
  and they cut teams up with it in a variety of ways. I
• 49:23
  did a full episode on it going into that Bill's Dolphins game and just broke
• 49:27
  down tape of like twelve different times they ran it in multiple games, and
• 49:30
  they would get to the same end result from a whole bunch of different starting
• 49:35
  points. And to be able to make something look whether your offense, defense,
• 49:38
  whatever, To make something look like A and then have it turn out
• 49:42
  to B B consistently is so tremendous. And I just think he really is
• 49:45
  one of the top schemers and schematic offensive minds in the game. And you
• 49:52
  know, again, part of it does help when you've got the fastest wide
• 49:54
  receiver duo in the league, arguably the best one two tandem for wide receiver
• 49:58
  in the league, and some fun other pieces as well, and then you
• 50:00
  got speed at running back. And then they then they go and draft Devin
• 50:04
  h or divine a chain from A and M who just burns and who has
• 50:07
  way better contact balance and power and tough running ability than people realize. He
• 50:12
  was a really fun tape study for me, Like they just needed more speed.
• 50:15
  But yeah, so whether you're focusing on the street was so whether you
• 50:20
  whether you're focusing on the individual piece like you did with like the talent perspective
• 50:24
  or the bigger overarching piece. It's easy to like that offensive side, but
• 50:28
  there are some concerns on the offensive side, and I think we're in alignment
• 50:30
  here. Biggest question mark. I'll take a little bit of the low hanging
• 50:34
  fruit with Tua, his health, the concussion history, but I'm going to
• 50:37
  tie it into the offensive line lowest pass blocking efficiency in twenty twenty two Toronto.
• 50:44
  Armstead is fantastic, but always seems to be one play away from an
• 50:46
  injury that's either going to knock him out for weeks or limit his play for
• 50:50
  weeks. Austin Jackson has been mad. You got Eikenberg who's had to kick
• 50:53
  into guard. You got Connor Williams who's mad too. Okay, he's a
• 50:58
  better run blocker than a pass blocker. Robert Hunt same thing, man flashes
• 51:01
  at times and ask some fun reps. We'll see what they get from Isaiah
• 51:05
  Wynn. Does he win a starting job somewhere and all of it. To
• 51:08
  tie that in with Tua, You've got questions on your offensive line from a
• 51:12
  pass protection standpoint, and you've got a quarterback who is a statue, who
• 51:16
  does not create off script, who does not extend the play, cannot yes,
• 51:22
  busically cannot bad and he seems like now he's one hit away from having
• 51:27
  his life significantly impacted, not just football career, like his life. So
• 51:31
  you've got a quarterback who needs protection. That's a big question mark. And
• 51:36
  I think that's a huge worrisome piece and it's a shame as a football fan
• 51:39
  because you've got all these fun weapons but you might not be able to get
• 51:44
  to them because your offensive line can protect. And for an offense that is
• 51:46
  so predicated on passing windows and rhythm and a statue asque pocket passing quarterback,
• 51:52
  to not have a consistently functional offensive line can literally derail you and be a
• 51:58
  huge derailment to someone like Tua in an offense like this versus if it's Josh
• 52:02
  Allen. Oh, he can go create and make a play and kind of
• 52:06
  make you right even when you're watching what he does literally what he actively does,
• 52:08
  that's exactly what he does. But if somebody gets in quick on Tuah,
• 52:12
  it's a rap and it's led to big time negatives for him. I
• 52:15
  mean, I'm gonna steal your point, and I'm gonna keep it short and
• 52:17
  sweet. I mean their defense is truly stacked. Like I will say,
• 52:21
  the defensive line, Christian Wilkins, Jalen Phillips, Bradley Shove, Zach Seiler,
• 52:24
  like Sailor, Steiler is one of the most underrated players in the entire
• 52:30
  end. That's how you know someone watches AFC East film if they know Zach
• 52:32
  Seiler because he doesn't take no one talks about him. He's a fantastic player.
• 52:37
  Like he may not be as consistent, he's like the Upreshlong guys understand
• 52:42
  that, but he's an impact player who really makes a difference on that.
• 52:45
  And again, when you have Christian Wilkins, it's like, literally can anyone
• 52:47
  else contribute? Like can someone just capitalize if you're getting one on one blocks
• 52:52
  if they're not really paying attention to you and Steelers that guy. So the
• 52:54
  defensive line, they're good. Linebacker Jerome Baker, Okay line backer, weak
• 53:00
  side linebacker David Long who they got. I'm a big fan of him.
• 53:05
  If he's healthy, that's really fun. He's what they've been looking for because
• 53:08
  they've had Baker as more of the week side linebacker and the land and Roberts
• 53:12
  is at mid linebacker. But Roberts is he's like a smaller Jamant Bentley,
• 53:15
  Like Jawan Bentley can kind of compensate one because he's so good technically and he's
• 53:20
  gonna get me with spots. And I think that Patriots are good at teaching
• 53:22
  their run stopping linebackers to do that. But with the Dolphins, he really
• 53:24
  got picked on a landing Roberts and then Jerome Baker had to be the athletic
• 53:29
  linebacker and that's just not really where his skill set is. He's more of
• 53:31
  a blitz er, more of a downhill guy. So yeah, linebacker David
• 53:35
  Long is huge for them. Brandon Jones and Javon Holland fantastic, Jalen Ramsey,
• 53:40
  Xavien Howard, Kator Coohu, Cam Smith Nick need him. Like their
• 53:44
  secondary is stacked. So the defense like I'm not even gonna like force some
• 53:49
  kind of oh, but their defense is gonna be fantastic and they're coached by
• 53:52
  Vic Fangio. They're good. I'm again just gonna say the offensive line,
• 53:57
  it is so scary on a human level that dude I cried twice last year
• 54:05
  because of Tah Like it's hard to watch. You feel for him because you,
• 54:09
  it's like, yeah, sure, even though I was a Dolphins fan,
• 54:13
  Like there's a degree where sure football, but also this is a human
• 54:16
  being who I thought after his most racing concussion, I was like, there's
• 54:21
  no way he's playing again, Like this is terrifying. I felt bad for
• 54:24
  him coming out Obama when they had to like reconstruct his hip because he's gotten
• 54:29
  like he shattered his hip. And then he comes back and it's like,
• 54:31
  oh cool, now we're going to bruise the hell out of your brain twice
• 54:35
  really bad. Like yeah, Like I don't want to be super negative or
• 54:38
  anything, but the reality is that that's got to be it. In the
• 54:40
  offensive line, like you said, the backups didn't even play with Toron Arms
• 54:44
  said, I know, Mini Comps pulled that up. That was a really
• 54:45
  good staff, but the backups never even got to play with the best offensive
• 54:50
  linemen they had. So I think Toron Arms said obviously is a big piece
• 54:53
  of that. But I don't know how much I trust the rest of the
• 54:55
  offensive line to be consistently good. I feel like every year, you hope
• 55:00
  the Dolphins are probably gonna Honestly, it's most offensive lines. I think the
• 55:02
  Patriots got away with it because of Dante Sarneckia. They had him for so
• 55:06
  long and then there was kind of the residual effect of him being there.
• 55:08
  But the afcast has really struggled to find good guys in the trenches. But
• 55:13
  they also have great defensive lines. So yeah, I gotta say it's too
• 55:16
  like again on a very human level, like I hope, I pray that
• 55:21
  he makes it through this season, but if he's not there, it's gonna
• 55:24
  be a lot harder for them, just because of what he is good at
• 55:28
  and that they put so much into building around him and what he excels at
• 55:32
  that without him it would be tough. And that's why it's wild to see
• 55:36
  like how bad their offensive line is, because it's like that's a really important
• 55:38
  thing in general for anyone, but especially when Tuah. I love your pieces
• 55:42
  on the defense. I don't want to wax too much on it, but
• 55:45
  I am very excited for what their defense can be with Fangio plus all the
• 55:49
  p I mean, you got a guy who knows how to use Bradley Chubb
• 55:52
  who had him in Denver, and then yeah, Holland and right, I
• 55:53
  completely forgot they drafted Cam Smith, who I loved coming out of South Carolina
• 55:58
  a lot. I'm hoping he doesn't start his year. That's gonna be so
• 56:00
  unfair. I'm hoping that Xavier Howard ends up getting shipped off because of his
• 56:04
  contracts, and then Cam Smith slides in because all three of them at the
• 56:07
  same time. With Kim Smith is on quickly, that's three big like Steve
• 56:14
  the slot. That's it's like like Xavian Howard, Yeah, you put him
• 56:19
  to the weak side of the number one, like yeah, sure, that's
• 56:22
  his thing. And then you have two legitimate, big, physical guys who
• 56:25
  can run, Like, oh yeah, what do you want to do?
• 56:30
  Like do you want Cam Smith to live in the slotter, do you want
• 56:32
  to have Jalen Ramsey? You have to be the star and have him like
• 56:35
  play the star apex role like what he has been the star in that Fangio
• 56:38
  system where the star is crucial because he could play a million things, like
• 56:42
  the Patriots have been incorporating more of that where Miles Bryant obviously it's not the
• 56:45
  same player, but he's smart enough where he could be a safety. He
• 56:47
  could be dropping the seat, he could be underneath, and then that helps
• 56:52
  the safeties out and the Dolphins are kind of like the Patriots, accept ind
• 56:54
  of a lot of safeties, a lot of corners. I know people were
• 56:57
  saying Nick need him sucks. I don't think he sucks, first of all.
• 57:00
  But also, he's your fourth fifth quarter right, it doesn't even matter
• 57:05
  quarterback has ever started at any point in their career and they're not named Justin
• 57:07
  Bethel, who's a special teamer all respect, but he's a special teamerum,
• 57:12
  But you know, your quarterback four being a decent player is a blessing in
• 57:15
  the NFL because not a lot of the teams have two decent cornerbacks. So,
• 57:20
  yeah, what Ramsey did in those Staley defenses, and Staley is you
• 57:24
  know, a prodigal son of that Fangio scheme and just it. They have
• 57:30
  the talent, they have the fit from a skill set to scheme standpoint,
• 57:35
  and they have the puppet master pulling the strings who knows what to do and
• 57:38
  so much of it for Fangio is it's not just like, oh, the
• 57:42
  guy who did like two high stuff right, Like no, it's just it's
• 57:45
  the two high shells pre snap. It's the disguising of coverage. I'm not
• 57:47
  even trying to plug the show or make a pun like just what he does
• 57:51
  with the games and his Denver defense has played way more man coverage than people
• 57:54
  realize, and he can do that with what he has at his disposal.
• 57:59
  You can stray up play Man across the board with Javon Holland covering stought receivers
• 58:05
  or tight ends or blitzen like all of these just pieces, and you got
• 58:08
  the guy who knows how to turn the dials and push the buttons. That
• 58:10
  defense could be really fun, which again makes his AFC's dog fight and makes
• 58:15
  it even worse. I know you're good to talk some bills to end it
• 58:19
  out here. I know you were strapped for time. We're good, Yeah,
• 58:22
  we're good. Good, Okay, copy that. Let's talk about It's
• 58:27
  so weird to like get to the bills like last. I feel like everybody's
• 58:29
  just like, tell us about the bills. Just tell us about the bills.
• 58:31
  So the flour is yours right now, and again we're starting optimistically.
• 58:36
  What is the strongest championship contender piece whatever however you want to phrase it,
• 58:44
  that makes the Buffalo Bills they contender to win another It's wild to say it
• 58:49
  like consecutive, well not even consecutive. They're third and fourth in a row.
• 58:53
  It would be it's crazy, Like I'm even like, how many have
• 58:58
  they won? I never thought we'd get to this spot because your team destroyed
• 59:00
  my youth and here we are now. It's just wild times. Say what's
• 59:06
  the what's the best piece for this Bill's team that makes them a contender to
• 59:10
  repeat again and again and again and again as AFC East champions. So Josh
• 59:15
  Allen's obviously low hanging fruit here, but Josh Allen is not the version of
• 59:20
  Josh Allen we know without Stefan Diggs. So I feel like you got to
• 59:23
  give him that crown because you think about it like they were bringing in Smoke
• 59:28
  and Cole Beasley. And at the same time, I say that with the
• 59:30
  understanding that Dalton Kinkaid, I think it's like that forced multiplier where you decide
• 59:36
  to put all your attention on Stefon Diggs. Dalton Kinkaid has a skill set
• 59:39
  to make you pay yea, So we'll see how it develops. But at
• 59:43
  the same time, like Stefan Diggs, I think the straw that serves a
• 59:45
  drink because Allen's fantastic he can put the ball there. But you see with
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  Gabe Davis is inconsistency with the Egans is to see you've got from really every
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  receiver historically who's not Stefan Diggs. Even if Josh Allen's making the plays,
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  you need somebody to be the passes, and Diggs is the one who makes
• 1:00:01
  all those big plays, who beats anybody who's lined up from across from him.
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  So if we're talking about the real difference maker, I no disrespect to
• 1:00:09
  Josh Allen. Like obviously Stefan Diggs is also better because of Josh Allen.
• 1:00:14
  It's why they're boys. But really Stefan Diggs is that guy where it's you.
• 1:00:20
  If he has a quiet game, you would least hope that you did
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  a good job against the Bills. But again I say that with the understanding
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  that I don't know what Dalbon Kincaid is going to be right into the league,
• 1:00:30
  but he is so talented that I think he has the potential to be
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  Mike GISICKI plus because I like him better as a block, and we talked
• 1:00:36
  about that when we spoke on my show, that I do think he's better
• 1:00:39
  in the run game and is more of a dual threat than people getting credit
• 1:00:44
  for it put in the right positions, because again, like we spoke about,
• 1:00:47
  it's so easy to say, oh, this tight end is really a
• 1:00:50
  receiver, but how many slot receivers are even touching six feet? And if
• 1:00:54
  you've got a guy who can win those contested catches, those jump balls,
• 1:00:58
  or who can just out physical the other guy and creates separation early in the
• 1:01:00
  route, that's a huge difference maker. So again, Stepan Diggs is that
• 1:01:05
  guy, but Dalton Kincaid could be the guy who puts them over the edge.
• 1:01:09
  And you know it's not just on Stepan Diggs. Now, I think
• 1:01:15
  Alan has someone also, Dawson KNOXO. I really do like, but it
• 1:01:17
  Dawson Knox is your three man. That's with again with Josh Hell, with
• 1:01:22
  Stepon Diggs, with James Cook in that run game, which I think is
• 1:01:25
  going to be better this year. O. Cyrus Torrence, you know I
• 1:01:28
  like him. I think this has the potential to be a really well rounded
• 1:01:30
  team that just gives you nightmares that they have the discipline to be as balanced
• 1:01:36
  as they can be. But Stepan Diggs is the real key to that puzzle.
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  I figured, so I didn't want to go Josh Allen because I felt
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  like that was cheating and I had a feeling you might lean into Diggs,
• 1:01:46
  so I also stayed away from that. But I mean, it's it's I
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  think it's fair to just go if especially if you're looking from a player perspective,
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  like it's Allen and Diggs, like they make this offense go in whatever
• 1:01:57
  way you want to shade it or pitch it or turn it, whatever have
• 1:02:00
  you. I'm gonna go with. And it's somewhat tied to the Dalton kincaide
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  piece my thing for the Bills that makes them strong contenders to win the AFC
• 1:02:08
  East again. I'm gonna go with the schematic versatility and multiplicity they have now
• 1:02:14
  on both sides of the ball, and we'll start with the offensive side.
• 1:02:19
  I love the twelve personnel piece. We again, we talked about it on
• 1:02:21
  your show, Shameless Plug. It was a great episode. You should go
• 1:02:22
  check it out. I tweeted about yesterday. It's on Taylor's Twitter page as
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  well. What you can do with twelve personnel, A good twelve personnel with
• 1:02:30
  a legitimately versatile tight end or two tight ends in both the run and the
• 1:02:36
  past. It allows you to do so much. It opens up so much.
• 1:02:38
  You can get to more of the menu without having to turn the page.
• 1:02:40
  I love that phrase. So you've got the twelve personnel piece. You've
• 1:02:45
  got Gabe Davis, You've got Knox, You've got Kincaide. You've got Dante
• 1:02:47
  Hardy, who's had injury issues, but when healthy, he's okay, and
• 1:02:51
  potentially he could stay healthy if he's not having to get a lot of burn
• 1:02:52
  and see a lot of reps. They took Trent Sherfield from Miami, big
• 1:02:57
  power, slot type dude who's a good run blocker, thick frame, strong,
• 1:03:00
  fast, athletic, physical. You still have Khalil Shakier. You've got
• 1:03:05
  this run game that I love that point. I think the Bills run game.
• 1:03:08
  I almost wanted to just say the run game, but I knew people
• 1:03:12
  would burn me to the ground because they think running the football is stupid.
• 1:03:15
  The run game is so important. I think of today's NFL, and football
• 1:03:19
  is cyclical. You know que the Matthew mcconically true detective times a flat circle
• 1:03:23
  with the can and he smashes it. YEA love it. Everything Everything is
• 1:03:30
  cyclical. And offenses started to become pass heavy and zone you know, running
• 1:03:36
  teams, and that defenses became built to stop that piece. And now you're
• 1:03:40
  starting to see the run game become more in vogue and the power run game
• 1:03:45
  where the gap scheme run game starting to become more in vogue as well.
• 1:03:47
  And I just think when you've got a strong passing offense like the Buffalo Bills,
• 1:03:52
  it wouldn't hurt to do what the Kansas City Chiefs did, which is
• 1:03:55
  develop a running game and mall people, because then what the hell do you
• 1:03:59
  do? Like you have to account for Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs or oh
• 1:04:01
  are they are they gonna run the ball? Oh crap, they ran the
• 1:04:04
  ball against us, like you think not even just use it for the low
• 1:04:08
  hanging fruit. The Chiefs are the good example, Like, you know what
• 1:04:10
  sucks having to worry about like what schematic piece Andy Reid is cooked up in
• 1:04:14
  the passing game with Mahomes and Kelsey. You know what sucks being like,
• 1:04:17
  oh man, it's Pacheco, gonna run it up. There goes twelve yards.
• 1:04:20
  Okay, you know what, They're not gonna run it again. Let's
• 1:04:23
  play pass up. There goes fourteen yards to Pacheco. Do we gotta bring
• 1:04:26
  a safety back? All right? Cool, let's bring a safety down.
• 1:04:28
  Up. There's a touchdown over our head. Up. We just gave up
• 1:04:30
  seventeen yard completion. Crap. Now the Chiefs are down to the nine yard
• 1:04:32
  line. Like, what do we do when you force a defense to live
• 1:04:36
  in that world? The offensive side of the ball for the Bills is so
• 1:04:41
  tremendously exciting this year and James Cook average seven point two yards per carry against
• 1:04:45
  light boxes from weeks eleven on last year. You want to keep playing light
• 1:04:48
  boxes against the Bills offense because you want to which is understandable. You want
• 1:04:51
  to protect against that pass game. Cool Cook has the speed and the burst
• 1:04:57
  to eat up that space that you give him, not to mention and improve
• 1:05:00
  offensive line potentially with what they've added with Connor McGovern with we'll see what happens
• 1:05:03
  at the right guard spot if Torrance wins out. They have the ability to
• 1:05:08
  truly run the ball. And so, whether it's from a past perspective,
• 1:05:11
  the personnel they can lean into, the formations, they can lean into the
• 1:05:14
  alignments, the concepts. They can run twelve personnel but run traditional eleven personnel
• 1:05:19
  plays in formations out of that. Or they can be in twelve personnel and
• 1:05:24
  have more of a power look and run the ball down your throat Cook and
• 1:05:28
  function in the gap schemes. We know how strong he is and zone runs
• 1:05:30
  where he flows like water. Or you can have Cooking. You can have
• 1:05:34
  twelve personnel with Diggs, Davis, Knox, Kincaid and James Cook and come
• 1:05:39
  out in a traditional seven man surface and then Digs is lined up outside on
• 1:05:42
  one, Davis is outside of the other, and then you come and you
• 1:05:45
  explode everybody and now you're in a full spread and it's a three by two
• 1:05:48
  and Cook's lined up on the outside of the slot. All these pieces you
• 1:05:51
  can lean into. I think this chematic versatility is huge. I think you
• 1:05:55
  have different chess pieces that you can lean on every week, different dials that
• 1:05:59
  you turn every week, and then to a lesser degree. I think the
• 1:06:01
  Bills defense has gotten to that with what they've added on the defensive line,
• 1:06:05
  the addition of Taylor Rap and the secondary. I think they have more sub
• 1:06:10
  package look and more rock paper scissor capability on the defensive side of the ball,
• 1:06:15
  and some improvement on the defensive line with proving guys to really get after
• 1:06:18
  the QB and help stem the tide if von misses time or if you have
• 1:06:23
  top guys that miss. For the Buffalo Bills, but for me really driven
• 1:06:27
  by the offense, but some as well on the defense to a lesser degree.
• 1:06:30
  That's schematic versatility, like how much they can get to how they can
• 1:06:32
  get to it. Just it's really fun to think of what they can do
• 1:06:36
  to keep you off balance and how they can just absolutely dictate to you on
• 1:06:41
  the offensive side of the ball, and even someone on defense as well.
• 1:06:44
  And we will quickly mentioned the Chiefs on my show as well about how they
• 1:06:47
  started to actually give Mahomes the offensive lineman where one they had that versatility,
• 1:06:53
  in two they actually had consistent protection. They not to mention they're leaning there
• 1:06:58
  thirteen personnel, which became this unicorn of a problem to deal with. Yep.
• 1:07:01
  And that's always thinking of when you were talking about it, is that
• 1:07:05
  if you put in Trent Sherfield and Stefon Diggs and then the two tight ends,
• 1:07:10
  you have a three buy one set under center. And you know what
• 1:07:12
  the Bills love to do this, They love coming out even with another offensive
• 1:07:15
  lineman. They love coming out with those looks where it's like, okay,
• 1:07:17
  I literally have no choice but to anticipate run a lot of defenses. If
• 1:07:23
  you have one receiver to the backside, that guy's going to be in man
• 1:07:26
  coverage. So even just by coming out with that personnel group, you could
• 1:07:30
  create better matchups for your best players. And it's one of the only times
• 1:07:35
  you're going to get a true one on one matchup with Stefan Diggs like and
• 1:07:39
  if you attach it, and if you attach them to the formation and create
• 1:07:43
  a six or seven man surface, now you can get to more of the
• 1:07:45
  run game everything. You can go weak side zone, you could go inside
• 1:07:49
  zone, you can run any type of gap scheme you want. You can
• 1:07:53
  run counter like the world is your oyster with what you can get to in
• 1:07:57
  the past and in the run and what do you do what you literally have
• 1:08:00
  to pick how you want to die. If you're a defense not looking forward
• 1:08:03
  to that, I'll say that biggest sign of respect. I'm not looking forward
• 1:08:08
  to the Bills and the Dolphins. I feel like you're in that same boat.
• 1:08:12
  They can really do whichever they want. If the play callers are again
• 1:08:15
  disciplined and really push like we want to be balanced and can also execute.
• 1:08:20
  You know, there's also offensive coordinators who are like, we want to be
• 1:08:23
  balanced, but it's like when you're averaging two yards per carry and you're running
• 1:08:26
  the fife, but balance, it's like, no, your run game sucks,
• 1:08:29
  just leave it. It's fine. Just we're playing your strength at the
• 1:08:31
  same time. If your strength is doing whatever you want, then do whatever
• 1:08:34
  you want. But yeah, it's a fun piece. Then. I also
• 1:08:38
  love that larger discussion of especially like the idea of interior defensive linemen. Everybody,
• 1:08:44
  you know, you wanted to rush the passer and teams wanted to one
• 1:08:45
  gap, so defensive interior defensive lineman became smaller. They became like at Oliver's
• 1:08:49
  on the extreme side of small, but they became more built in that mold,
• 1:08:54
  and then all of a sudden, I love this idea of you know
• 1:08:57
  what, defenses are built to one gap and penetrate, be fast off the
• 1:09:00
  ball. Let's get some mallers inside and let's run more trap and more wham,
• 1:09:03
  and let's run gap scheme and just blow up the interior of these defensive
• 1:09:08
  lines and run it down the throat. I love time as a flat circle
• 1:09:12
  defense swings the pendulum their way, the offense swings it back defense, and
• 1:09:15
  you just go round and round and nothing is new. Everything we're seeing now
• 1:09:19
  has been done throughout history, but you pick and choose different pieces based on
• 1:09:24
  the trends. And that's why it's like, oh, Belichick zigs when everyone's
• 1:09:27
  zag, and it's like, how is he ahead of everyone? It's like
• 1:09:29
  he literally has seen this before. He's been in this league for like fifty
• 1:09:32
  years. Yeah, he's already seen the trend. He knows where to invest
• 1:09:35
  his draft capital and what he needs to get personnel wise to counter it.
• 1:09:40
  And it's also why you see, like what the Patriots teams, their defenses
• 1:09:44
  very rarely have like a type. Usually, if anything, they're big and
• 1:09:46
  physical, but they're big and physical like now in the right ways where you
• 1:09:49
  get like a Jawant Bentley in the middle, who sure he's like a bigger
• 1:09:54
  guy who's not going coverage, but you also have a safety next to him.
• 1:09:56
  We can compensate. So again, like you said, like the older
• 1:09:59
  co just in the league, they understand that. It's why the guys who
• 1:10:01
  have been there usually are always ahead of the curve. Yeah, it's because
• 1:10:04
  this stuff has already happened, and they're just starting to notice, Okay,
• 1:10:08
  which players are available, where is the league trending? And they've already got
• 1:10:12
  the insights in like college coaching and high school coaching, so they already know
• 1:10:15
  what the prototypes are years ahead. Even you know, we mentioned Lamar Jackson
• 1:10:18
  earlier, and it's like, Wow, this Raven's offense running game is a
• 1:10:21
  revolution. It's like they're basically just running inverted vier and option offense. Like
• 1:10:25
  they're just they're just doing what like Oklahoma did in a modified version and what
• 1:10:29
  like Nebraska did, Like that's just what they and the old school exes and
• 1:10:31
  Oh's heads are like, oh no, no, this is happened before.
• 1:10:33
  And I'm like, I'm twenty six. I've never seen this in my life.
• 1:10:38
  Like I'm sorry, I'm just I'm just a person. Yeah, that's
• 1:10:41
  it. Now, let's get just the negatives about that, right. I've
• 1:10:44
  got nice enough to this fan base you have. You've been very gracious,
• 1:10:46
  as I just paided you, gracious and knowledgeable. Um, I still hate
• 1:10:50
  you, but I mean it is what it is. I'm a hard person
• 1:10:53
  to please hate you and I love you. It's okay, that's fair.
• 1:10:55
  Respect. I see you, we see each other. I come together feeling
• 1:11:00
  in the world. I think we're gonna have a very similar negative and or
• 1:11:03
  biggest question mark, especially with how the theme of this episode has gone.
• 1:11:06
  But I am big time in this boat. I don't want to get ahead
• 1:11:09
  of myself. The floor is yours. Biggest question or concern or hindrance for
• 1:11:13
  the Buffalo Bills this year in winning another afc EA's crown, I feel like,
• 1:11:17
  because we're going on brand, probably gonna go offensive line, so I
• 1:11:21
  will go on the other side of the ball. I'll say health, oh
• 1:11:27
  fair the trenches for one, like Bills have been very dependent on who's healthy
• 1:11:32
  when it comes to especially defending the run, but also pass rushing like Gregory
• 1:11:36
  Russo. Obviously at Oliver one of the better interior rushers in the league.
• 1:11:42
  But it feels like nice like Kwan Jones isn't healthy, Like it feels like
• 1:11:45
  the run game really ends up taking a hit. I know the edge of
• 1:11:47
  the defense is going to get better. I think with Leonard Flood, I
• 1:11:50
  think he's a good, well rounded player, not like an elite edge rusher,
• 1:11:54
  but I think he gives you enough on top of being a well rounded
• 1:11:57
  player who can rely on to defense. Salid Salid b b us guy at
• 1:12:00
  times. And that's fine. That you've got Von Miller and Greg Ross cool
• 1:12:02
  precisely now where it gets interesting, he's in the secondary. You got two
• 1:12:08
  safeties who are highly respected. I have a lot of admiration for their careers,
• 1:12:13
  what they've done, their versatility. Like I love Mike Hide, I
• 1:12:15
  loved your employer. But they're older and we started seeing that in their injury
• 1:12:19
  histories. Now, obviously Mike Hides was you know, I don't necessarily want
• 1:12:24
  to say that was because of his age, but you also have to question
• 1:12:26
  how well is he going to come back considering what his ages and the degree
• 1:12:30
  of the injury. Trey White, you saw, I kind of took him
• 1:12:31
  a while to get back, so I think you're anticipating that he's going to
• 1:12:34
  come back closer to what he was. And he's a great player. I
• 1:12:39
  want to see him at the top of this game. I don't care who
• 1:12:41
  you know, what team I'm covering. I would like to see him because
• 1:12:44
  he's such a fun player to watch. Kyer Elam obviously is very good as
• 1:12:46
  well, But again, I really do think if you're soft in the middle,
• 1:12:50
  like you lose an interior defensive lineman, and your safeties aren't playing consistently.
• 1:12:55
  Taylor rap is good, but he's one of those guys where I don't
• 1:13:00
  want to say he's a jack of all trades, master of none, but
• 1:13:02
  he's versatile but scheme limited. He's not playing the middle for you consistently,
• 1:13:06
  and I don't think you're comfortable with him doing that, Like there are certain
• 1:13:10
  play I think he's someone where, Yeah, when you have three safeties,
• 1:13:13
  that's when having Taylor Rapp is a ton of fun because you put him wherever
• 1:13:15
  the situation dictates he's best. But if you're missing Jordan Player and or Micah
• 1:13:20
  Hyde, then Taylor Rapp is being put in positions he's not comfortable in,
• 1:13:24
  and then you have to rely on backups. And I think that's when,
• 1:13:27
  as you saw last year, the secondary and I don't even want to say
• 1:13:30
  falls apart because I think relative to how much youth they had and how much
• 1:13:32
  they were relying on backups, Like I do not want to take away from
• 1:13:35
  it, but everything becomes more limited in what you can do, and when
• 1:13:39
  you're trying to get out of a dog fight division and a dog fight conference.
• 1:13:43
  If you're limited, you're almost dead in the water. That's a backbreaker.
• 1:13:45
  Yeah, So so I'll go with the health specifically in the secondary,
• 1:13:48
  but also in the interior of the defensive line, and obviously with Von Miller,
• 1:13:51
  like how long it takes him to get back. But you know,
• 1:13:54
  the Bills are probably gonna be playoff contenders. If Von is there for the
• 1:13:58
  last stretch of the season, is healthy and contributing, you're probably good.
• 1:14:02
  But seriously, if your safeties go down like that's that's a pretty big week.
• 1:14:06
  This where a good team, like a Bill O'Brien is gonna scheme.
• 1:14:11
  We're on early downs, we're designing play action shots. Get Tae Kwon Thornton
• 1:14:14
  on your safety? Is your safety comfortable enough in space that deep down field
• 1:14:17
  to be able to match up with him? And you guys are in quarters
• 1:14:19
  and it's essentially mann demand. It's fair. Don't mean I didn't I didn't
• 1:14:26
  anticipate, like I think this was like the fourth or fifth Tae Kwon Thornton
• 1:14:29
  name drop. I didn't expect him to make such a I haven't talked about
• 1:14:31
  him at all in anything that I say in my podcast. So I mean,
• 1:14:35
  to be fair, he's dealing with like a soft tissue injury. I
• 1:14:38
  don't know how much he's gonna play, but so fast he is. That's
• 1:14:41
  a thing like I do, Bill O'Brien and Will Fuller. It's not like
• 1:14:44
  we do. We've seen that Bill O'Brien knows how to use guys who,
• 1:14:47
  Yeah, they're skinnier and they're scrawny, and they don't do well with contact
• 1:14:50
  and their injury prone. But it's like, okay, yeah, but get
• 1:14:54
  him in a condensed split on an early down where they're playing soft zone so
• 1:14:58
  it doesn't have to worry about that. And if it's and you hope with
• 1:15:00
  those, I'm sorry, I'm going to pass again. But if you're on
• 1:15:02
  schedule, you're only dealing with like thirty five worst case scenario, thirty six
• 1:15:06
  manager you can get again, if someone's gonna go man coverage, you can
• 1:15:09
  get a pick and get a guy open. Like That's what Daniels is great
• 1:15:12
  at all the great offensive coordinators, if you play man coverage in a reasonable
• 1:15:15
  down situation, you're in trouble. So that's that's my defensive one party.
• 1:15:20
  I love it, No, I get it. And also at the end
• 1:15:23
  of the day. I think we all have a little Al Davis in us
• 1:15:26
  where it's just like speed is awesome. I like speed, like I'm gonna
• 1:15:29
  follow the fast guy, and Norton's got speed for days. I do share
• 1:15:33
  some of your sentiments on the concern overall from a health standpoint, I always
• 1:15:38
  that's because that's in the back of my mind. But I think I was
• 1:15:42
  so focused on both sides of the trenches. I'm gonna talk about the offensive
• 1:15:44
  side in a minute, but the Bill's defensive line made me feel a little
• 1:15:48
  better with the additions they made. I like the Puna Foord edition, and
• 1:15:51
  I really really really like the Leonard Floyd edition, just because Floyd is a
• 1:15:56
  solid one or two depending on however someone views or so. I think Rousseau
• 1:16:00
  has the potential to be a very high end two or one this year with
• 1:16:02
  the progression that he's made, But Floyd is the one or the two with
• 1:16:05
  Rousseau. And then von Miller comes back, and now you've got a three
• 1:16:09
  headed monster rotation at edge who can do everything, run and pass from a
• 1:16:12
  defense standpoint in a variety of ways. I really really like that. The
• 1:16:15
  interior, again, I feel a little better with the Poonaford move, but
• 1:16:21
  I still to your point, like Dekuon Jones went out for that Cincinnati game
• 1:16:27
  and everything fell apart, and that was really something I've been hampering on,
• 1:16:30
  start hampering on bang of the drum for all year. Was his importance.
• 1:16:32
  And you're going into this year right now and your defensive line rotation is Dequan
• 1:16:36
  Jones, ed Oliver, tim Settle, Poonaford, Jordan Phillips. Phillips has
• 1:16:42
  significant injury concerns and significant injury history that caused him to miss more time last
• 1:16:46
  year like it did in a years in Arizona. The year before, Tim
• 1:16:49
  Settle really faded down the stretch and had a horrible advanced metric year on the
• 1:16:54
  interior. And for a defense that I think will be different under Sean McDermott
• 1:16:59
  from an idea nity standpoint and philosophy standpoint, with some schematic tweaks as well
• 1:17:02
  thrown in there, and from a coverage standpoint, I think you'll see more
• 1:17:04
  single high with the loss of Tremaine Edmonds and not being able to play so
• 1:17:09
  much Tampa two in quarters where he's matching and carrying number three and doing anything
• 1:17:13
  he wants in the middle there, So granted there will be some tweeks there,
• 1:17:16
  but you want to kind of like what not not to bring up the
• 1:17:19
  jets again, but you want to rush four and drop seven, you want
• 1:17:24
  to play light boxes. You can't do that if your defensive line can't hold
• 1:17:28
  up against the run, especially in the middle, and especially in the middle
• 1:17:30
  where again Tremaine Edmonds is gone. Fine, Terrell Bernard's taking his place some
• 1:17:36
  people. I don't think Dorny Williams is going to take it. I think
• 1:17:39
  Bernard is going to be the guy. But even if it's not, if
• 1:17:40
  it's Bernardson, if it's Williams, if it's somehow aj Klein, whatever,
• 1:17:45
  you need to protect your linebackers at the second level. That interior defensive line
• 1:17:48
  is tremendously important. My worries have been quelled a little bit, but I
• 1:17:53
  still want to see how they perform, because at the end of the day,
• 1:17:56
  we don't know where you're gonna get from settle again because it wasn't ideal
• 1:18:00
  last year. Phillips is an injury concern. Poona Ford. I love his
• 1:18:02
  chematic versatility. I just I didn't know he could line up at so many
• 1:18:05
  positions until I went and watched the Seattle table over the past couple of years.
• 1:18:09
  That made me feel good. But when you want to run, you
• 1:18:12
  need to be strong in the spine, and especially if you're gonna run light
• 1:18:15
  boxes and two high looks. So that's a concern for me still a little
• 1:18:17
  to a degree, but it's less than a bit. My biggest concern lies
• 1:18:20
  with the offensive line, and it's really one person and one player, and
• 1:18:24
  I don't want to keep picking on him. So they've done an all offseason,
• 1:18:28
  yes, like and he was so mercurial last year, just a complete
• 1:18:33
  roller coaster, some really high highs and really low lows. Eighty eight tackles
• 1:18:38
  last year had twenty percent of pass protection snaps. So again, eighty eight
• 1:18:43
  tackles, Spencer Brown was tied for sixty ninth in past blocking efficiency. He
• 1:18:49
  was yeah, sixty ninth amongst those tackles, and of the two hundred and
• 1:18:55
  six offensive linemen, so not just tackles, offensive linemen in general. He
• 1:19:00
  was tied for one hundred and eightieth out of two hundred and six in pass
• 1:19:03
  block efficient and the number after a one eight zero three three numbers not great.
• 1:19:10
  One hundred and eightieth out of two hundred and six qualifying offensive linemen in
• 1:19:13
  pass block efficiency in true pass sets. So those aren't those are like true
• 1:19:17
  you know it's not quick game, Um, it's it's not some advantageous look
• 1:19:23
  for the offense. It's just a true pass that you're dropping back and you
• 1:19:26
  gotta get your guy and can you get him or can you not? And
• 1:19:28
  if you're looking from a volume standpoint, oh, you want to talk about
• 1:19:30
  like total pressures, Spencer Brown tied for the eighth most pressures allowed in twenty
• 1:19:34
  twenty two amongst all offensive linemen, tied for the fifth most amongst all tackles,
• 1:19:41
  and he was tied for the third most in true pass sets amongst all
• 1:19:45
  offensive linemen. And again those true pass sets four four and more rushers,
• 1:19:49
  no play action, no screens, no short drop back, and two or
• 1:19:53
  more seconds to throw. So again, a true literal pass set, supermcurial
• 1:19:58
  play, huge roller coaster. I know he was injured a bit last year.
• 1:20:00
  It affected his offseason routine. In regiment, this is a guy who
• 1:20:03
  needs and needed time on task playing eight man football in high school, going
• 1:20:09
  to Northern Iowa, opted out of the COVID year all that kind of stuff,
• 1:20:13
  however you slice it. I've said so much on this show. He's
• 1:20:16
  a huge question mark. And the Bills did really nothing to amplify or reinforce
• 1:20:20
  that position. They brought in Brandon Shell, who was not ideal with Miami.
• 1:20:24
  We'll see what happens, and then maybe it's David Questenbury who again got
• 1:20:27
  beat by Bryce Huff and Josh Allen's arm got hurt Questbury Westonbury where Josh euj
• 1:20:31
  had a rep where he didn't touch him and the guy fell down. Yeah,
• 1:20:39
  but he was also not the game of pass. Questenbury was super,
• 1:20:42
  super super hurt in that game. Okay, he should not have been playing,
• 1:20:45
  and he was like gutting it out, but you could see how I
• 1:20:48
  mean, he was going to struggle regardless. But then on top of it,
• 1:20:50
  yeah, he was just he I think it was a vaul or his
• 1:20:54
  knee. He could not bro it had to be something more. But I
• 1:20:57
  saw it and was like, something is probably wrong with him. But I
• 1:21:00
  used as an excuse to call Josh Ji because he literally just goes like this
• 1:21:02
  and falls. Yeah, he collapses. It's like, yeah, he used
• 1:21:05
  the force and question and he just melts Yeah, it wasn't great. Sun.
• 1:21:12
  He watches the show. He's, um, that's fair. Yeah,
• 1:21:15
  it's just though that's true. He's a smart guy. He recognizes the content.
• 1:21:18
  It's could be you. I mean you and mean it kinds are best
• 1:21:20
  friends, but you're the draw here. I'm just I'm just the shepherd on
• 1:21:24
  this journey. Sorry, I would do it one time on this. I
• 1:21:28
  just think it's a huge piece and I love the improvements overall. Dawkins,
• 1:21:31
  solid and fine. I think Connor McGovern is an upgrade big time from Roger
• 1:21:35
  Saffold. Not because McGovern is going to be this all pro, but Saffold
• 1:21:39
  was like a C last year, so bad C plus at times. McGovern
• 1:21:43
  gives you a solid B minus to a B plus range. Mitch Morse,
• 1:21:45
  I think it is tremendous. Even if Ryan Bates wins out at right guard,
• 1:21:48
  solid baseline fine, but he or Torrence will be okay. And then
• 1:21:53
  you've got right tackle a guy who Spencer Brown on any given play could give
• 1:21:58
  you a wreck where you go wow, how nice, or you're gonna be
• 1:22:01
  like wow, that's awful. And he gets beat within a half a second.
• 1:22:03
  And that's the piece right when he gets beat. He gets beat immediately.
• 1:22:10
  It's bad technique, it's bad footwork, it's poor athleticism, and he
• 1:22:13
  gets beat immediately. And if you can't protect, especially with an offense,
• 1:22:16
  it has so much schematic versatility that can really bring it down and drag the
• 1:22:20
  whole thing and act like an anchor. Which is also why I think the
• 1:22:23
  run game will be key, because Spencer Brown is a very good run blocker.
• 1:22:26
  His physicality and athleticism shows up in spades whether he's going downhill or functioning
• 1:22:30
  in space as a run blocker, which is also why I want to see
• 1:22:33
  more run game mixed with play action to mitigate how much they have to put
• 1:22:38
  him in those situations. But if I'm a defense, I am going with
• 1:22:43
  a wide alignment and I am going to overload that side. I'm putting Spencer
• 1:22:46
  Brown on an island because he'll give up the corner, he'll give up the
• 1:22:51
  inside, he'll get beat through his chest on a bullrush. He'll he won't
• 1:22:56
  use independent hands, he I do what is he struggle because he's just inconsistent.
• 1:23:02
  But all the tools are there, He's just inconsistent. I haven't seen
• 1:23:05
  I'll tell you what one of my um, oh my god, I'm blanking
• 1:23:09
  on the terminal anology. Darnell Wright does it all the time, and I
• 1:23:14
  got into it with trap. Snatch trap, thank you, snatch trap.
• 1:23:18
  I haven't. So that's a move that offensive lineman use on defenders. Spencer
• 1:23:24
  Brown gets snatch trapped by edges because he'll be so out in front of his
• 1:23:28
  feet that the edges will engage and Spencer Brown reaches and they chop his hands
• 1:23:32
  and he'll just fall forward and they go right. It's not great. He
• 1:23:36
  gets beat in him, and that's the concern. He gets beat in a
• 1:23:39
  variety of ways. And when he gets beat in a variety of ways,
• 1:23:43
  they're all really bad. And that's the roller coaster if he and he doesn't
• 1:23:46
  need to be an all pro, he doesn't need to be amazing. Just
• 1:23:49
  stabilize. Just lower the low lows. I don't even care if you lower
• 1:23:55
  the high highs. Just raise your floor. Be consistent, have that semblance
• 1:23:58
  of consistency. He is my biggest question for especially for the offensive side,
• 1:24:02
  because the offense drives this team. Again, I spoke a little bit about
• 1:24:05
  the defensive interior like you did as well, But that's Spencer Brown piece yeahs
• 1:24:10
  again, especially in a division where Jalen Phillips has made progress and I think
• 1:24:14
  Chubb is going to be better. And sometimes the line up Christian Wilkins outside
• 1:24:16
  and make and just stunt and play games and take advantage of you. You
• 1:24:19
  know, what the Pat's got would jute on and ouch and then the Jets
• 1:24:23
  got horses for days up front and let alone with what you're gonna have against,
• 1:24:28
  you know, the upper echelon teams and the AFCs you go forward,
• 1:24:30
  which we're not talking about. We're just focused on the AFC East piece.
• 1:24:32
  That's Paul. That's a piece that concerns me. It worries me. I
• 1:24:35
  have concerns. But Taylor, I've kept you too long. I should have
• 1:24:41
  known because I knew we were talking. Honestly, we could probably talk for
• 1:24:44
  like a legit another two three hours and just yeah, I'm not That's why
• 1:24:47
  I can't get upset because I'm having a lot of fun. I'm just I
• 1:24:50
  need to start policing myself better a little bit less. We you know,
• 1:24:57
  it was a bad it was bad off rip when you join the room and
• 1:25:00
  we started like seven eight minutes late because we were just kind of shooting the
• 1:25:03
  shit and hanging out and talking and I was like, oh wait, we
• 1:25:04
  got to do the show. But I appreciate it takes a long time to
• 1:25:10
  get through all that it does. There's a lot of we're talking with our
• 1:25:13
  hands, there's a lot of stuff going on. But as always, I
• 1:25:15
  appreciate you. You're tremendous as I hoped you would be. I am a
• 1:25:17
  genuine fan of yours as a person and in terms of just the content and
• 1:25:21
  the work that you put out. I love that you hearken back just for
• 1:25:25
  people don't know. The last time I had Taylor on, he was working
• 1:25:28
  for the NFL, working for Next Gen Stats and offline we were talking about
• 1:25:31
  kind of what he wanted to do with his career and where he was going.
• 1:25:35
  And he's moved on that path significantly now being a legitimate beat reporter for
• 1:25:39
  the Pats, and he's that dude you'll see him like at training camp and
• 1:25:43
  he's got the behind the scenes footage and he's also a beat reporter who this
• 1:25:46
  is no shade at anyone. He's not just out there as like a medium
• 1:25:49
  of information. Dude actually knows football, he knows scheme, he watches tape,
• 1:25:55
  he breaks it down like that's the majority of what his Twitter pages and
• 1:25:59
  he's a beat reporter in that. So you are one of the best.
• 1:26:01
  I truly mean that. I enjoy the hell out of as a person and
• 1:26:03
  as a guest and a guy who just to talk ball with. But now
• 1:26:06
  that I'm done singing your praises, I'm gonna just talk horrible things about you
• 1:26:11
  once you leave here. But just balance this out because I'm cringing the floor.
• 1:26:15
  The floor is yours. Yeah, it's great football, cringe. The
• 1:26:19
  floor is yours. Tell everybody where they can find you, what you do,
• 1:26:23
  all that stuff, because again I say it in season, but even
• 1:26:25
  if you're just a fan of the Bills, I think it's important to stay
• 1:26:28
  up on everything for all the other teams and if you genuinely want to know
• 1:26:31
  about football, but especially knowing your enemy in the New England Patriots. You
• 1:26:35
  know you're one of the best for that. So plug your stuff, everything
• 1:26:38
  you do where they can find your shows, Twitter, work, articles,
• 1:26:42
  website, anything and everything. The floor is yours. And then um,
• 1:26:45
  go to your dinner, which I held you up for an ipodists. You're
• 1:26:47
  good. You're good, buddy. First of all, let me sing your
• 1:26:49
  praises. Man idore you. I love being on the show. It is
• 1:26:53
  so fun. I wish I had just hours to kill um so we could
• 1:26:58
  just talk all as much as we want. Thank you for welcoming in this
• 1:27:00
  community. I sincerely do love Bills fans. I went to a Bills Pats
• 1:27:03
  game two years ago. We're so hospitable. Everybody was so nice and genuinely
• 1:27:09
  sweet. I really have a lot of love for Bills Mafia. You came
• 1:27:12
  up to Buffalo for a Bills game. Yeah, yeah, I'll text you
• 1:27:15
  pictures. If you come to Buffalo again, you have to let me know
• 1:27:17
  and we'll help. I'm a beat reporter, baby, I'll be there.
• 1:27:20
  Oh that's right, I forgot. We'll figure it out. We'll figure it
• 1:27:24
  out. I honestly, we hadn't even thought about this yet. So you're
• 1:27:26
  seeing our excitement in live in real time. This is super exciting. We're
• 1:27:29
  gonna figure that out offline. Um. But yeah, thank you, man
• 1:27:31
  Um, thank you everybody for having me. Um. Yeah. My Twitter
• 1:27:35
  is at t k y l E S thirty nine. I worked for Selonist
• 1:27:41
  Media. They've been amazing to me. You can find my content on their
• 1:27:45
  website. I've been doing a behind Enemy Line series of my own. Ane
• 1:27:49
  was gracious enough to join me for that. Obviously it was fantastic. You
• 1:27:54
  can find that on my Twitter page. It's probably the easiest place. And
• 1:27:58
  I also still do some stuff sp Nations, Pat's Pulpit, who that was
• 1:28:02
  where I got my first break. They create amazing content as well. Super
• 1:28:05
  lucky to be in the PATS ecosystem. But yeah, Pat's Pulpit, you
• 1:28:10
  can all strick me out there, so thank you. I appreciate the hell
• 1:28:13
  Audea. I'll DM you after this and seeing your praises some more. But
• 1:28:15
  go do everything that I held you up from doing and prevented you for and
• 1:28:19
  give my apologies to whoever you're supposed to join. I sincerely apologize for going
• 1:28:25
  over the time limit, but I do as always, I appreciate the hell
• 1:28:28
  Audea. And we'll see each other, probably in person at some point this
• 1:28:30
  year, and then obviously for Bill's Pat's Week. You will be coming back
• 1:28:33
  to the show, provided time allows. You will also be coming back,
• 1:28:36
  so there's gonna be a whole lot more love between us. Brother. I
• 1:28:40
  can't wait. I appreciate you, man, enjoy your nights and again,
• 1:28:44
  thank you for everything. You're awesome, hies brother, thank you better man.
• 1:28:46
  Hell yeah, absolutely tremendous guest mister Taylor Kyles. I get really excited.
• 1:28:54
  He's a good dude. He knows his stuff. And I'm throwing up
• 1:28:57
  the banner. We're not completely leaving. I'm putting up the two folks because
• 1:29:00
  we're starting to wind down here. But don't run, don't fret yet.
• 1:29:04
  Any thoughts, questions, comments, concerns. You folks know how we like
• 1:29:08
  to do here. Throw it up into the chat. We will engage in
• 1:29:10
  some pieces as we start to wind down here. Of course, I've got
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  done, and also just speaking from personal experience myself. You know, I
• 1:29:49
  had a bit of a rough go of it with some other things these past
• 1:29:54
  couple of months, and they've been tremendously gracious and supportive of me in a
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  food, Get yourself some one pie pizza. Well, let's go to this
• 1:30:06
  comment that I just saw Dusty. I'm not reading that name. He says,
• 1:30:11
  any chance we put O Cyrus at right tackle, you think absolutely not.
• 1:30:14
  I do not think he has the skill set for right tackle. You
• 1:30:16
  might see Ryan Bates in a right tackle role in an emergency situation, but
• 1:30:23
  O Cyrus Torrens Nope. Chris says, actually grabs one from rj R.
• 1:30:27
  Says, awesome job. And I probably the most knowledgeble pass reporter I've ever
• 1:30:30
  heard. He's tremendous. Again, he started in like the real football side
• 1:30:34
  of things, and then it's gravitated towards the beat. But if you again,
• 1:30:39
  if you check his Twitter page te Kyle's thirty nine. A lot of
• 1:30:43
  it is just all twenty two tape. He's breaking down game tape, and
• 1:30:45
  he's talking scheme and he's talking coverage and player evaluation. He really knows the
• 1:30:49
  game and he's honed his craft, and he's not just somebody out there just
• 1:30:54
  asking random garbage questions to players and then putting out an article about it.
• 1:30:58
  Like, the dude actually knows the game. So if you follow him and
• 1:31:00
  follow his work, it's not even just to get insight on the paths,
• 1:31:02
  which you will, but he also learned about the game as well, which
• 1:31:06
  should make you enjoy it more in my estimation. So yeah, he's absolutely
• 1:31:09
  tremendous and I appreciate you appreciating him, Marja, and I think you for
• 1:31:12
  being here overall. Chris says, I'm intrigued on how mcdermot's going to utilize
• 1:31:15
  rap I am as well. I think the three safety package could be a
• 1:31:20
  really fun piece I see Taylor Rapp used or what I'm envisioning for him,
• 1:31:25
  and I've said it on the show before. I think he'll be use in
• 1:31:27
  some dime linebacker roles or some apex defender looks as that guy in the slot
• 1:31:30
  piece. He did it in the Super Bowl when they won and beat the
• 1:31:33
  Bengals. He wasn't the starting safety in that game. It was Nick Scott
• 1:31:36
  and Eric Wettele, and Rap was the guy in the box or in the
• 1:31:40
  slot, covering down on tight ends and covering down on Jamar Chase. I
• 1:31:44
  think Taylor Rapp is already probably the best tackler on the entire Bills defense,
• 1:31:46
  and I mean that sincerely, so I'm excited to see what they could do
• 1:31:49
  for him. Again. I don't think he should be living as a single
• 1:31:51
  high safety majority of the time. He can do it in spurts, but
• 1:31:55
  I think using him as a split safety at times, but really allowing him
• 1:31:58
  to flourish in and around the box the hook curls the flats. I think
• 1:32:01
  you could get really fun with what you could do for him. So I'm
• 1:32:05
  very interested with that, and r J says same, getting ready for the
• 1:32:09
  Raptor package. Excellent plug. Shout out to Chris Kepner from Cover one for
• 1:32:12
  a coin in that phrase. Yeah it's oh. Mike from Facebook says twenty
• 1:32:17
  twenty one, the defense give up one hundred and seventy six pass yards per
• 1:32:20
  game fifty nine point four percent completion. Last year it was two hundred and
• 1:32:24
  fourteen sixty one point two percent. Defense gives up one hundred four rush yards
• 1:32:27
  per game. The offense is top five in most categories. What did the
• 1:32:30
  Bills need to do to fix the past defense issues? Pass rushers, dB,
• 1:32:32
  coverage? Good question, Mike and from Facebook. We'll put it down,
• 1:32:38
  but answer it. I honestly think a lot of it is from a
• 1:32:40
  pass rush standpoint, consistently generating pressure and being able to play with that solid
• 1:32:45
  rotation. We know the Bills are going to rotate. I think so part
• 1:32:49
  of it. Again, last year, I mean they were banged up in
• 1:32:51
  the secondary. Legitimately, even when Payer came back, he was not anywhere
• 1:32:55
  near one hundred percent. You were rotating in Hamlin and Jaquan Johnson, camp
• 1:32:59
  Lewis saw time at safety, Trey was working back from his injury, Elon
• 1:33:02
  got banged up and forgot banged up, like all these little pieces. But
• 1:33:06
  I think I think the health will help the defense. But I really think
• 1:33:11
  it's just getting consistent pass rush from non von Miller. Aspects of the defensive
• 1:33:16
  line going forward. I've done a whole bunch on the show from a film
• 1:33:20
  standpoint and advanced metric standpoint. Once Von went down, the defensive line performance
• 1:33:26
  dipped for everyone pretty much except for Greg Russo and Ajpanessa. Russou stayed at
• 1:33:31
  where he was pre von injury at a JP and s actually saw an uptick
• 1:33:34
  in his game. But I think with the additional Floyd, you have a
• 1:33:38
  proven pass rusher off the edge, good rotation, also a good sub package
• 1:33:44
  third down piece. Now you can go. You know Leonard Floyd, von
• 1:33:47
  Miller, Greg Russa at Oliver on third downs or known passing situations, and
• 1:33:51
  now you have a cool little Nascar package type of feel. I love da
• 1:33:55
  kuon Jones and what he's able to do. But I think you know,
• 1:33:59
  what they've added on the defensive line I think will help. But the biggest
• 1:34:02
  piece as well, again, you know what do the Bills need to do
• 1:34:06
  to fix any potential pacity or run defense issues. Mike. Also, I
• 1:34:10
  think with your question as well, I think they needed some schematic changes.
• 1:34:13
  I think you need usage of different fronts. It can't just be the same
• 1:34:16
  four three overfront that they use, which you know you've got your two defensive
• 1:34:20
  ends and you've got a three tech and you've got a one tech. Like
• 1:34:23
  the front that we saw them use over and over and over again, I
• 1:34:26
  think you have to change it up. Use a little more odd front,
• 1:34:29
  cover up the center every now and again, use some more gap and a
• 1:34:32
  half or some two gapping at time instead of just being a traditional like,
• 1:34:34
  hey, we're always going to one gap four to three static overfront. That's
• 1:34:38
  what we're going to be. So I think tweaking some of the fronts that
• 1:34:43
  they use and leaning into some different concepts, working in more man coverage and
• 1:34:45
  more aggressive looks, more simulated pressures. I think a lot of pieces are
• 1:34:48
  more schematic based, and that's really what I'm excited for to see from Sean
• 1:34:54
  McDermott. But I will say I think they've upgraded from a consistency standpoint when
• 1:34:59
  it comes to proven pass productivity upfront, and then I think health on the
• 1:35:00
  back end will help as well. Those are good questions. I'm going to
• 1:35:04
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• 1:35:38
  Taylor Kyles for just being an absolute star and a stud on this show.
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  Appreciate the kind words for him in the chat. Appreciate the kind words for
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  me in the chat right now. And again, thank you everybody for joining
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  me live on this episode. It's always nice to see people roll in,
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  and especially I know this is a weird time. Regularly, the show is
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  live every Tuesday at nine pm Eastern. I'm on a Thursday at seven o'clock.
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  It's weird, it's wonky, it's a holiday week. I didn't even
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  know what we get for attendance, So I appreciate those of you who join
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  me live and anybody who watches later post live. Thank you very much for
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  your live viewing, your post live viewing, or if you're on audio only,
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  whatever form or fashion your content consumption comes in, I greatly appreciate it.
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  If you enjoyed this, tell your family, friends and loved ones about
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  how awesome this show is and how they need to check it out. If
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  you didn't enjoy this content, tell your enemies about how awful this show is
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  and try and ruin their day with it because maybe they'll like it instead,
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  and then, you know, kind of pay it forward or pay it backwards
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  potentially. Oh again, more kind words coming in the chat. I don't
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  like to pull them up because I feel like that's douchey or corny to like
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  pull up good things about myself. But I see the nice words coming through
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  in the chat, and I appreciate you folks very much for it. I
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  hope you and your family and friends and loved ones are all doing well and
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  staying safe. Be kind to one another, take care of one another.
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  I will see you next week Tuesday, nine pm Eastern. I don't know
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  what the next Tuesday or the eleventh, right next Tuesday, July eleventh,
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  for a regularly scheduled episode of Disguise Coverage not on this Thursday time slot.
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  So again next Tuesday, nine pm Eastern for the next episode of Disguise Coverage.
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  Until then, I appreciate you folks more than you know. Drop a
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  leg on this video, rate review and subscribe on the audio platform. Subscribe
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  here on YouTube. Tell your family and friends at loved Ones. I appreciate
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  you. Godspeed, major thank you to Tator Kyles for joining me tonight,
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  and as always, go Bills