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- 0:28after a two -day free trial. Um, and the world
- 0:59cup is going on and, uh, it's, it's going and
- 1:02going and it's not gone yet. It's still here.
- 1:06Um, but, uh, a lot of other things that are actually
- 1:08happening quite a bit actually around the, uh,
- 1:11the sports world. Um, but we will, uh, we'll,
- 1:14we'll, we'll get into that here. Uh, your momentarily,
- 1:16uh, before we dive right in head first, let's
- 1:20say hello to the gents. Chris, how are you? Doing
- 1:24good. Uh, yeah, kind of a. entertaining week
- 1:28of sports for surprisingly this time of year.
- 1:32Yeah, a lot of trades going on in various leagues,
- 1:34NBA draft going on as we speak. Got it going
- 1:37on over here. Yeah, USA group, whatever the hell
- 1:42we're in, champs. Onto the knockout stage and
- 1:47then you know what? When the whole damn thing,
- 1:50but take game by game. But yeah, doing well.
- 1:54How is everyone else doing Sean? Doing well.
- 2:00Got something in my throat, but other than that,
- 2:02we're all good over here. As always, I look forward
- 2:06to this time of week when I can just talk ball
- 2:09with the Phillips. So, Will, how are you doing?
- 2:13I'm okay. Admittedly, I'm very tired. My wife
- 2:22had foot surgery. yesterday and so admittedly
- 2:26I've spent kind of the whole week really just
- 2:29prepping for that haven't watched any FIFA whatsoever
- 2:35and it's um that does she we had to get up at
- 2:414 a .m. yesterday to get to be there by 6 and
- 2:46then she didn't get into surgery they didn't
- 2:49start until 8 and so Yeah Very tired very sleepy
- 2:57Haven't haven't watched any sports really. I've
- 3:01really just seen shit on Twitter But you know
- 3:05what that's okay Because it's not always about
- 3:08being right It's always about being Good vibes
- 3:12or something. I don't know where we want to start
- 3:16talking about first I mean, we can just start
- 3:20with the latest breaking news. AJ Devansa from
- 3:23BYU, number one overall pick to the Washington
- 3:26Wizards literally just happened. So you heard
- 3:29it here, first folks. As first reported on Three
- 3:34for the Money. On Thursday. Right. Is that a
- 3:42shock, Chris? No, not really. I don't personally
- 3:47think he's the best player in the draft. But
- 3:49I mean, he's the best for that team. It's a very
- 3:53guard heavy draft. And the Wizards just signed
- 3:57Trey Young to like a $200 million extension.
- 4:01So they don't need a guard right now. So yeah,
- 4:05the Bantso is probably the best for them. He's
- 4:09fine. And he's very raw. He's got great athletic
- 4:12ability, but he He struggles at times to create
- 4:14his own shot. He can be a little wild at times.
- 4:17He doesn't really pass the ball all that well,
- 4:19so I'm sure Trey Young will love that. Yeah,
- 4:22we'll see. I mean, it's the Wizard, so who knows.
- 4:26What position does he play? He's like a forward,
- 4:30I guess. He's a big, lanky guy. Yeah, he has
- 4:35listed as forward. I mean, today's basketball,
- 4:38he can just play wherever. He's a big boy, height
- 4:42-wise. All right. There it is. I mean, was BYU
- 4:49good this year? They were pretty good. They were
- 4:53probably one of the best in the Big 12, and then
- 4:55one of their second -best player, either towards
- 4:59ACL, towards Achilles, something that missed
- 5:01the latter half of the season. Once that happened,
- 5:05their season was pretty much done. But he was
- 5:07really good. He put up a lot of numbers. But
- 5:09I mean, he's sort of a SGA, I want to say foul
- 5:14merchant, but he takes a lot of free throws.
- 5:18So we'll see if he's going to get those calls
- 5:21in Washington. Free throws, the most exciting
- 5:26part about basketball. Sometimes. I mean, sometimes
- 5:31it is. I mean, yeah, occasionally, but very seldom.
- 5:36When you need the over to hit. Yeah. Very important.
- 5:44Yeah, I mean, I was scrolling ESPN right before
- 5:46this and I was like, oh, the NBA draft is going
- 5:49on. If only I knew a single name of anyone in
- 5:53this draft. I could provide some any insight
- 5:59on this whatsoever. But hey. Who's to say? Well.
- 6:07I didn't know the NBA draft was going on until
- 6:09Chris literally said it. So. Don't feel too bad.
- 6:15Do you know anyone's name? No, OK, well, we're
- 6:21yeah, we're this. We're two. We are the same.
- 6:26Yeah, two guys in a boat in the same boat. I
- 6:30mean, I know I knew it was this week. I had no
- 6:35idea it was tonight until like this morning.
- 6:37I saw it on tour. I was like, Oh, shit, cool.
- 6:40Something to watch tonight. Yeah, probably how
- 6:44people feel when we just go rambling on about
- 6:47the NHL. Yeah. And I mean, talk about the NHL
- 6:55draft is, is this week as well. It's on Thursday,
- 6:58that's the first round. And then the rest is
- 7:00Friday, I believe. And like, I, you know, I,
- 7:06I pretty sure I said that I was going to do research.
- 7:09I didn't do research. But you know, the national
- 7:14predators have the 10th overall pick. The NHL
- 7:19draft is it has constantly been something where
- 7:23nobody can really predict except for like the
- 7:26first couple of picks. And then everything after
- 7:28that is like, essentially free game. And it's
- 7:34it's so weird when you compare it to like the
- 7:36The NFL drafter like the NBA draft Just because
- 7:42like these these are 18 year old kids and some
- 7:44of them are 17 getting drafted and so like Everyone's
- 7:50kind of talent evaluation is a little bit different
- 7:53Everyone's in like a different league and so
- 7:57you have to take their numbers with it within
- 8:00reference to the the competition in that league
- 8:03and it's I mean basketball it's kind of the same
- 8:06way in that regard. I'd say it's more akin to
- 8:10baseball than uh because that yeah I mean baseball
- 8:15I would I don't have the numbers in front of
- 8:18me but there's probably a decent amount of the
- 8:20guys that your team drafts will never play for
- 8:23your team. Right and like it's there's a pretty
- 8:28steep drop off after the first round that it's
- 8:32it's like hey It could happen. Probably won't.
- 8:39But you know, that's the way the cookie crumbles
- 8:42or something. You said it right. Yeah. Gavin
- 8:47McKenna. Gavin McKenna should go first overall.
- 8:51After that. Who's to say? Yeah, I was gonna say.
- 8:55Oh, sorry. Good. I mean, that was about it. I
- 8:58mean, yeah, I was gonna ask if there's a clear
- 9:02number two. So I figured, yeah, I knew McKenna
- 9:04is pro it's like the guy, but I didn't know if
- 9:07there was like a one a and maybe one B or what,
- 9:13what have you. So yes and no. Um, it's so it's
- 9:23either one like after McKenna, it's either going
- 9:27to be chase Reed, who is a defenseman. Um, We
- 9:33play at Sault Ste. Marie, who is very, very good.
- 9:35Um, and then, uh, Ivar Stenberg from the SHL
- 9:40who he's a, he's like, he's more of like a complete
- 9:45player. And like, when you play in the, in the,
- 9:50uh, the Swedish hockey league, it's, um, you're
- 9:54playing against like grown men, like, like 30
- 9:57year old men. Like not not not like college where
- 10:00it's like yeah, you're playing against grown
- 10:02men like, you know 22 year old dudes that are
- 10:06big No, this guy like when you when you play
- 10:08in that league, it's it's everyone. It's it's
- 10:12all it's basically all ages Well, I actually
- 10:14I think it's like 17 and up is the SHL and then
- 10:17they have I think there's some junior leagues
- 10:18Maybe I don't know I could be wrong. I don't
- 10:21the NHL is weird how they do their Shit, but
- 10:25hey Who's to say? But but yeah, that's um That's
- 10:35that's literally all I got I mean I was looking
- 10:37at a bunch of mock drafts for who the Predators
- 10:40might pick We might pick What the fuck what is
- 10:45his name? It might not even matter Tynan Lawrence
- 10:51Center for Boston University who had an okay
- 10:55had an okay year And essentially like everyone
- 10:59that i've that i've seen in these mock traps
- 11:01that that people have the predators taking like
- 11:04it's It's like past the first like five picks
- 11:08it's like yeah, they did. All right, you know
- 11:11everyone else past five it's like all right they
- 11:15There's always a but Not a not an and and it's
- 11:21whoever they are Whoever they are. They sound
- 11:23like a national predator already Yeah That's
- 11:27what I'm just All I'm hoping is we avoid what
- 11:34happened last year which was When we drafted
- 11:38Brady Martin at number four that we actually
- 11:42see some highlights of of him on the TV Because
- 11:47what happened last year if you guys don't remember
- 11:49is we drafted him and they were like he's on
- 11:52the farm and then they showed a video of him
- 11:56on the farm, uh, Chorin. And, and then like at
- 12:01night, they had a big old party and had a projector
- 12:05and watched the draft and watched them get draft
- 12:07drafted at fourth overall. And that was it. Didn't
- 12:11see, didn't see any, uh, any sort of highlights
- 12:14or nothing. Uh, kind of like when we drafted
- 12:17Cam Ward, there's sense to be a bit of a pattern
- 12:19here. Um, Nobody gives a shit about our team
- 12:23so they don't Let's just get it over with on
- 12:27to the next floor or their sleeper agents It
- 12:32could be it. Let's let's let's choose that. Yeah,
- 12:36I'm choosing I'm choosing the second. Yeah, they're
- 12:40sleepers sleeper at number one overall They don't
- 12:49want to show you how good they are. Yeah. They
- 12:53they want you to be in the dark about it, because
- 12:56they want you to feel like that you discovered
- 12:58them on your own. I did it me. No one ever heard
- 13:04of cam ward until nobody. But yeah, I mean, there's
- 13:13a there's been a bunch of noise in the NHL. I
- 13:16mean, do we want to do FIFA last? I mean, I guess
- 13:20we're already on the NHL. I mean, I have nothing
- 13:22to say about FIFA. I don't know. Just go USA.
- 13:27Are we just flying by the seat of our our pants
- 13:29right now? I am a little bit. Okay. I can look
- 13:37up some stuff. I mean, yeah, it's just like,
- 13:40there's some stuff to have on FIFA, like all
- 13:42the stars are like, pretty much dominating, but
- 13:47there's nothing. Yeah. We'll get into it. Yeah,
- 13:50we're into it. So I do want to talk about this
- 13:54Yesterday Monday Brady Kachuk was traded to the
- 13:58Florida Panthers Instant reaction father's day
- 14:02What it was father's day was Sunday. I was with
- 14:06my dad when it happened. What did oh no, what
- 14:08did Rick think? He was like, oh damn Not joking.
- 14:20Oh damn. But then later he was like, that's got
- 14:24to be at like two first round picks, right? And
- 14:26I was like, it was three. It was three. One conditional,
- 14:32but still a first round pick. That's a lot. He
- 14:36got his make -a -wish for sure. Yeah. Like when
- 14:44that happened I was like, oh man Yeah, oh man
- 14:49Well is my my instant reaction to the news Was
- 14:54that the two diamond defending Stanley Cup champions
- 14:57missed the playoffs? They got to do something
- 15:01That was a big that was a big move. So it kind
- 15:05of made sense Right and like they had a bunch
- 15:09of injuries and that was kind of the main thing
- 15:12Stop them from the playoffs, but I do agree with
- 15:15with what you're saying that They had they definitely
- 15:18had to do something and like I Mean the we didn't
- 15:25even talk about the Rams getting Myles Garrett
- 15:27and Like everyone saying like F dim picks. It's
- 15:31like a man F dim picks, you know It but that
- 15:37kind of seems to be the trend now because there
- 15:39are a lot of trades going down that involve a
- 15:42lot of first round picks. Or at least some. Yeah.
- 15:48Yeah, there is. Oh, and I think there was today
- 15:53that Jordan Cairo got traded. And I think they
- 15:59traded two firsts for him. Let me pull it up.
- 16:06Where are you, Elliot? Elliott Friedman. Shout
- 16:12out. Oh, man. I'm not going to find this. Does
- 16:17Florida have anybody else from Team USA on the
- 16:19roster? I don't believe so. It was one first
- 16:28round pick and two prospects for Jordan and Kyrie.
- 16:32Oh. Whoops. I mean, it's still a first round
- 16:38pick. It's number 16 so Damn there's been a lot
- 16:44of trades actually. Yeah, if you just go to like
- 16:47the NHL Instagram, it'll just tell you but One
- 16:53of the more surprising ones was William Uckland
- 16:55like getting traded to Ottawa I Mean for the
- 17:01ninth overall pick which is oh shit. Yeah Damn
- 17:10That's for the ninth pick Yeah, and like three
- 17:14other or like two other prospects or players.
- 17:17I can't tell but yeah Wow, San Jose has two picks
- 17:21in the top ten of the draft That's crazy. Sounds
- 17:25about right. I feel like they've been kind of
- 17:27been living there That's like four years Well,
- 17:30they will I mean at the end of the season it
- 17:34was kind of like yo this the sharks Barely missed
- 17:37the playoffs And like, I think they went from
- 17:41nine to like four, maybe? It was top five, because
- 17:47I remember us complaining about it, because it
- 17:49was just like, of course, the Sharks get the
- 17:50top five pick. Wasn't it two? I think it was
- 17:55pretty damn high. It is two. I think it was two.
- 17:57Yeah, it's two. Yeah, they went from nine to
- 18:00two, I think. Man. I mean, they did make the
- 18:06playoffs and Before that they were complete dogshit.
- 18:11So I Mean is That that that comes with the territory
- 18:16and I mean we were dogshit two years ago and
- 18:20So we got the fourth pick So I mean it makes
- 18:23sense. So now we're slightly less talk shit.
- 18:26Yeah now we're slightly less talk shit, you know,
- 18:28we almost made With this new GM I'm liking it.
- 18:35I'm liking him so far uploading yeah he's i think
- 18:41it's we've talked about this a a number of times
- 18:45if the the national predator should should rebuild
- 18:49and like i think i might have said this before
- 18:53but we have like yo like yosi like he's He's
- 18:59a little bit past his prime, but like he's still
- 19:01fucking awesome player like year and year out
- 19:03He is the second best defenseman in the league
- 19:06Philip Forsberg. I mean he scored over 40 goals
- 19:08last year and then like he's done that a couple
- 19:11of times and like Stephen Samcoe's finally like
- 19:14Learned how to relearned how to score goals.
- 19:16So it's like that's great. Soros is good sometimes
- 19:21not in the first part of the season and so like
- 19:26With with all that going for us. It's kind of
- 19:28it's kind of hard to be like, yeah, we need to
- 19:30rebuild like, you know, and so like I feel like
- 19:35I Feel like you give this guy a little little
- 19:38time like a year or so. I Feel like we can put
- 19:41together a pretty good squad. I Don't know. It
- 19:44also feels like we've been drafting well but
- 19:47also We'll see So, you know, what do you think
- 19:53of the Burnett extension? Or not really an extension,
- 19:57but he said he's staying. For this season, upcoming
- 20:01season, I think. I think man. I'm I'm 5050. I
- 20:08gotta be real like I I think he is a good coach.
- 20:12He's a good coach. And it. It's like you can.
- 20:20You can think about the good shit that he's done
- 20:23like. like make like when we made the playoffs
- 20:26and we you know, we lost to Vancouver but like
- 20:28You know that was that that Vegas year I believe
- 20:31where they cut they they got rid of the Vegas
- 20:33strip and we went on a heater To make the playoffs
- 20:36and it's like that was that was great. I mean
- 20:38that was that was part of his decisions and like
- 20:41Yeah, I honestly I really hate it when people
- 20:44talk about it. But at the same time like it is
- 20:46great it is great that that happened and he's
- 20:52He got them To fucking like make it click in
- 20:55their head. They're like, hey guys, we're a good
- 20:57team You just guys are playing like shit play
- 21:01better No Vegas. Yeah No, we're not going out.
- 21:07No And so like that part hey man, you you gotta
- 21:12you gotta kind of like that in your coach you
- 21:14gotta you gotta like You have to enjoy the fact
- 21:19that he can throw down the hammer and say, I
- 21:22will not stand for this. Um, so I like that.
- 21:26Um, I think, I think this past year did a lot
- 21:30for him with how, how much better we did perform
- 21:34as the season went on. Um, I think I'd be a lot
- 21:38more for him if we made the playoffs, but you
- 21:44know, it's, uh, anything can happen in the playoffs,
- 21:46but at the same time, like, you know, I mean,
- 21:48nothing was going to happen, but you know, still
- 21:50like, make the playoffs. That is, I mean, that's
- 21:55not the mark of success, but it but it is. And
- 21:58so like, I'm but at the same time, it's like
- 22:00two years ago, we were complete dogshit. But
- 22:02also, like, Barry got Stamco's Marsh associate
- 22:06and completely revamped our roster. And so like,
- 22:10he's going into this, we're like, like some of
- 22:13our top guys have no familiarity with, with with
- 22:16our team. And so it's like, okay. really good
- 22:20coaches just tend to find the players and and
- 22:25you know know what to do with them and then go
- 22:27from there and so like that I put that against
- 22:31him but also at the same time I feel like we
- 22:35hadn't really been drafting that well not as
- 22:40of like two -ish years ago but before that and
- 22:43so like keeping the the covered stock has been
- 22:47Kind of a bit lackluster. So there's a lot of
- 22:51factors, but I think I all in all I'd say I'm
- 22:53I'm okay with it. I don't know. What do you think?
- 22:57Yeah, I mean I'm fine with it. I guess they mean
- 23:01it makes sense to me It's like I don't think
- 23:03you really want to find a new coach right now
- 23:05while you're also trying to revamp like the entire
- 23:08like front office as well Like, you know, he
- 23:12does well if you're the guy that can get him
- 23:18like the pieces that he needs or Suggests adjustments,
- 23:24then I think you should follow through with Barry's
- 23:30decision in the higher and hiring him in the
- 23:32first place So but I mean if he sucks next year
- 23:42Yeah Yeah, for sure. Goodbye. Totally. But yeah,
- 23:50I don't think we're gonna win a cup with him
- 23:52or anything. But I think he's, he's getting us
- 23:55where we need to go for the time being. It's,
- 24:00it's really weird. We've been in this no man's
- 24:02land for a couple years. Well, I guess not two
- 24:05years ago, we were just bad. But around that
- 24:11year, We've kind of been in this this weird kind
- 24:14of limbo where we're not good. We're not bad
- 24:18What do we need to what do we need to do here?
- 24:22And so it's It's a lot And you know what you
- 24:28that's the number one place you don't want to
- 24:30be Because I mean if you're if you're dog shit,
- 24:33then it's like, okay Well, you know you can get
- 24:34a good pick and it might turn out to be Pretty
- 24:38great. Yeah I feel like they are either really
- 24:43hot or like really fucking cold like all the
- 24:47time there's like no like oh they won two yesterday
- 24:50they lost one last night or like whatever in
- 24:55the past three they're two and one it doesn't
- 24:57feel like that it feels like in their last five
- 25:00they're one and four and then like it feels like
- 25:05that constantly but they'll go he'll also go
- 25:07on like seven game point heaters or like 10 point
- 25:10heaters or and it's just like who i don't even
- 25:14think you know who you are like as a coach yeah
- 25:19sometimes it does feel like we don't really have
- 25:20an identity um yeah so i i'm hoping his his third
- 25:26his next year he can actually find himself and
- 25:31like what he likes Cause he is a first time NHL
- 25:35head coach, right? I mean, so it was like an
- 25:41interim with Florida for an extended interim,
- 25:44wasn't he? Yeah. Um, so he was, he was the interim
- 25:50head coach, um, after Joel Quinville left because
- 25:56of the Kyle beach stuff with the Chicago blackhawks.
- 26:00Um, I don't remember what part of the year that
- 26:03happened. Um, but they ended up winning the president's
- 26:06trophy. Yeah. I thought it was pretty early in
- 26:08the season. And then, yeah, they went on to win
- 26:11the president's trophy and they, I don't remember
- 26:13how far they went in the playoffs that year,
- 26:14but it was like, holy shit, this guy might be
- 26:16amazing. They didn't win it that year. That might've
- 26:22been, that might've been, they might've met Tampa
- 26:26in the playoffs. And that might have been that
- 26:30might have been the year That the Tampa and Florida
- 26:35Rivalry, I don't know if it started but it it
- 26:38kicked off I guess And so I feel like that might
- 26:43have been that year. I don't know but so he's
- 26:46been an interim head coach, but he he hasn't
- 26:49been a Head coach, so it's I don't know But yeah,
- 26:56so you're right Yeah, full -fledged head coach
- 27:02full -fledged HC, yes Speaking of head coaches
- 27:09for the NHL Mike Babcock got hired by the Oilers
- 27:14today Yeah, after he was found to not have violated
- 27:19any sort of like NHL what is it it's like the
- 27:27uh i know what you're looking for but i don't
- 27:32know how to say it code of conduct yeah it's
- 27:37like a weird it's something that's like not kind
- 27:40of not chill but like yeah like chris were you
- 27:47aware on on why mike batcock is a piece of shit
- 27:51i remember there is controversy, but I don't
- 27:54remember what he did. I was just about to Google
- 27:56it while you were talking. He's done a he's done
- 27:59kind of a number of things. Yeah, which is like,
- 28:03he just doesn't seem like a really good guy.
- 28:06Yeah, like he when he was the Red Wings coach.
- 28:10There was this guy that he tormented every day.
- 28:15Yeah, I thought I remembered something about
- 28:17when he was in Detroit. He was like a like a
- 28:21jackass, but like a A bad jacket. Is it Johan
- 28:26Franzen? Franzen? Oh, I think it is. Franzen
- 28:31revealed in interviews that he suffered from
- 28:33PTSD caused by bad cause for relentless berating,
- 28:37mind games, and verbal abuse on the bench. Yeah.
- 28:43Listen, there's a difference between being a
- 28:47tough coach and being an asshole. Like yeah,
- 28:52he's just kind of an asshole. Yeah, and it's
- 28:55it's also weird Because like he Like I don't
- 29:01I I can't even I Don't even know if he's this
- 29:04guy's a good coach or not To be quite honest
- 29:07with you Like he's won Stanley Cups But like
- 29:13I mean he was on like the late 2000s redwings
- 29:18when when they had like nine Hall of Famers.
- 29:21Well, actually, this was like five Hall of Famers.
- 29:24But still, but like like that team was that's
- 29:28enough. Yeah. The team was fucking incredible.
- 29:31And like he was I think he was the head coach
- 29:33when Canada last won their gold medal. And it's
- 29:38like, how much credit can you really give like
- 29:42that? That was a legit super team. Everyone on
- 29:46that team was a Hall of Famer. Like maybe I haven't
- 29:51looked at the roster, but it's probably true.
- 29:53This says in 2023, um, he resigned after just
- 29:5878 days in Columbus, after asking players to
- 30:01scroll through their personal photos and one
- 30:03-on -one meetings, just many players feeling
- 30:06uncomfortable. Yeah. He would ask them to, um,
- 30:10like he would ask them to like cast their phone
- 30:14to like his TV in his office. so they could look
- 30:18at it like together while the player like scroll
- 30:20through it. You know, fucking weird. Was there
- 30:24like any sort of like, did he ever say like,
- 30:27hey, my goal was to do this by doing this very
- 30:31odd exercise? I think all right. Good. I think
- 30:39his cop out answer was I want to get to know
- 30:41my players, but I believe the real reason was
- 30:44he wants to make sure they're locked in on the
- 30:46game. um maybe i mean he's just a fucking he's
- 30:54an asshole yeah it's like i kind of get that
- 30:58mentality or at least that reasoning but like
- 31:01he's a grown ass man they're making a shit ton
- 31:05of money that should be enough like hey yeah
- 31:08i'm locked in man this ain't high school yeah
- 31:13and like he's never i mean I'm sure he coached
- 31:16high school in his very, very, very early years.
- 31:20Um, but like, like it gives me, it gives me,
- 31:26uh, who's the fucking, who was the Ohio state
- 31:28coach that went to Jacksonville? Urban Meyer.
- 31:31It gave me urban Va urban Meyer vibes. Like there
- 31:36were stories about urban Meyer, like going, going
- 31:39up to players would be like, yeah, I called your
- 31:41parents and called my parents. Oh yeah. He's
- 31:46like, he needs to control every single aspect
- 31:51of the team, which I mean, as I guess he could
- 31:55argue is a reason why his teams were so great,
- 31:58but can't do that in the press. Kind of making
- 32:01a lot more money than you, Bob. Right. And so
- 32:05it's, um, but the word on the street is that
- 32:13the Oilers players were like we they had a long
- 32:18discussion because they they fired their coach
- 32:21at the end of the offseason and they they were
- 32:26like what what do we need like a players only
- 32:29meeting in the offseason if they can even do
- 32:31that or at least the leaders did and I believe
- 32:36they they chose Babcock because I'm not sure
- 32:41that they've had an asshole behind the coach,
- 32:43behind the bench. And, um, you know, this might
- 32:47be, uh, this might be what they need. You know,
- 32:52it's weird. I mean, I, I, before you were talking
- 32:57about him, I was like, Hey, I mean, there is
- 32:59an asshole coach out there who has Stanley cup
- 33:03final experience. Right. There is. Just saying,
- 33:08maybe ride the hot hand, bring in the mercenary.
- 33:15That might be the emergency button. I might,
- 33:20if I were a player on that team, when we went
- 33:23from Babcock to Tortorello in the same season,
- 33:25I'm like, you know what? I think I might just
- 33:27quit this whole hockey thing. This ain't worth
- 33:31it. Yeah, really. Let me think. While you think
- 33:37about it, I was like reading stuff like about
- 33:40his other like player Controversy things and
- 33:46he some of this stuff just seems like vindictive
- 33:50Like it's benching Jason Spetsa at in his Toronto
- 33:55homecoming like opener That's crazy He's he scratched
- 34:03a Hall of Famer Mike Modano for multiple games
- 34:08down the stretch denying denying him the opportunity
- 34:10to play his 1500th NHL game. Yep. That's that's
- 34:16just like downright. That's just like downright
- 34:19vindictive. That's just like I don't like you.
- 34:24Fuck you. Yeah, that's well. That's crazy. That's
- 34:33that's the biggest Kind of like you're an asshole.
- 34:37Maybe not the biggest he didn't get he didn't
- 34:39give Mike Madonna PTSD that I know of but I Mean,
- 34:45I guess the Johan Fronson thing would be probably
- 34:48the most asshole thing But uh What I was thinking
- 34:53about before When you before you talked about
- 34:57that was if I'm remembering correctly I believe
- 35:01the Columbus Blue Jackets fired torts in the
- 35:04offseason after his last season, and then they
- 35:08hired Babcock. Timeline does add up. Yeah. I
- 35:14think I think that's that's how I think that's
- 35:17how it worked out, which oh, geez. Talk about
- 35:23stress. And then they revolted after 78 days.
- 35:29Like this guy sucks. It's not even good. This
- 35:36guy's a fraud. Um, I don't know. Um, it's to
- 35:44go back to your point, Chris, there's an asshole
- 35:48mercenary coach out there. I think I think it
- 35:51might Think his role in the hockey sphere from
- 35:55now on might be break glass in case of emergency
- 35:58From now on which I don't think is a bad gig.
- 36:02I think it's an amazing gig I think we kind of
- 36:05joked about it after Like he got hired or at
- 36:10some point we talked about is like, I mean honestly,
- 36:12yeah, I'd fucking take that and heartbeat Yeah,
- 36:16we Nashville Predators 15 games away from making
- 36:22the playoffs. They need, they need to go on a
- 36:25heater in order to win. Andrew Burnett out. John
- 36:28Tortorella. I'd be like, you know what? We got
- 36:38nothing to lose. Yeah. At that point, it's like,
- 36:42whatever. But like, I think I might've heard
- 36:46him talk like he's like, I've kind of calmed
- 36:48down these past couple of years. Yeah, you're
- 36:54not playing 82 games, yelling your lungs out
- 36:58every night, yelling at the refs and your players.
- 37:02Yeah, he's also like a million years old. Teams
- 37:09are just going to hire him at the end of the
- 37:10season just to squeeze every last bit of juice
- 37:12he's been saving like all year long. If it works,
- 37:17it works. Great. It almost worked. It almost
- 37:21worked two games away, but yeah, almost worked.
- 37:25Almost. Um, that's funny. But yeah, Mike Babcock
- 37:32could be, uh, could be it. I think, I mean, I
- 37:36don't know. I mean, yeah, I guess I'm the oilers
- 37:39guy on the podcast since I bet on them every
- 37:42year, but, um, I don't know if their past couple
- 37:45coaches, if they've all been like player guys
- 37:49or I'm not your friend guys. And maybe maybe
- 37:54the Oilers need a I'm not your friend guy. I
- 37:58am your enemy. I hate you. Go play a game for
- 38:08money. Who knows? I mean, I thought it was interesting.
- 38:14It was just so quick to like after he was, you
- 38:17know. convicted falsely or like, not convicted,
- 38:21I guess, acquitted, acquitted. Sure. It was like,
- 38:26boom, oilers. Apparently, they probably had it
- 38:29in a couple weeks. Yeah. But I think they had
- 38:33to go through this in order to hire him. Is is
- 38:37I think it was like when he was fired, or when
- 38:43he left or resigned or whatever. I think that
- 38:47was just kind of left out open. And he was like,
- 38:50Oh, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna coach no more.
- 38:55That's my Mike Babcock compression. Spot on.
- 38:58It's actually pretty good. I don't know if you've
- 39:01heard of that guy talk. I don't recall. You can't
- 39:05talk. Okay. I coached the Toronto May police
- 39:11with Mitch Marner and Austin Matthews. Made Mitch
- 39:15Marner rank his teammates as a rookie. Oh shit.
- 39:19He did do that This dude's a bad guy It's not
- 39:27a cool guy. Okay. Yes, Mike Babcock bad guy You
- 39:33know, I This isn't gonna flow into the next thing
- 39:39but Going back to the the Brady Kachuk trade.
- 39:46I don't know if your guys feed is as tailored
- 39:49as mine, but I got a lot of videos on like these,
- 39:59these like dudes in Canada that talk about hockey,
- 40:01you know, like TSN and others. They're like,
- 40:07they're so like the agenda right now is that
- 40:11since Brady Kachuk was traded like American captains
- 40:16in Canadian franchises, they're like No, this
- 40:20cannot happen ever again. Austin Matthews count
- 40:23your days and On all of the the tik -toks and
- 40:29Instagram reels I saw I immediately commented
- 40:31you're just so butthurt about Canada losing in
- 40:36the gold medal game you hate America so much
- 40:39and so that's really what i've been doing um
- 40:44a lot of whatever i my free time i like to online
- 40:48bully canadians yeah because they're they're
- 40:53they're salty i mean yeah i was doing that a
- 40:57lot when we won the gold medal i spent a good
- 41:00few hours after that game just spam commenting
- 41:04the same shit on every angry canada fan they're
- 41:09like American captains for these Canadian franchises
- 41:11cannot happen and like They're they're like fucking
- 41:16fine. You don't want a gold medalist on your
- 41:21hockey team Yeah, sounds like a sound strategy
- 41:27Yeah, really Baby shit soft you have to be Yeah,
- 41:39it's a It's pretty funny They're like Austin
- 41:45Mount Matthews count your days. He's gonna be
- 41:47gone soon Fuckin look at Quinn Hughes. He he
- 41:51was a captain he left and it's like he doesn't
- 41:55want to fucking be there like Vancouver sucks
- 41:57an organization is terrible. Yeah and like I
- 42:05there's like other captains that are doing the
- 42:07same thing like Like fucking like Dylan Larkin,
- 42:10I don't know if you saw he wanted out he requested
- 42:13a trade and so like All this is happening and
- 42:18all Canadians can focus on is like these Americans
- 42:20It's like hey, man The the league is mostly Canadians
- 42:27it's like 40 something percent Canadians and
- 42:31then it's everyone else and it's like a buddy
- 42:34like calm down There's there's a ton of y 'all
- 42:39that wanted out of where they were. So shut the
- 42:42hell up. I don't know if you guys know that.
- 42:44I haven't. I hope the Leafs trade off to Matthews.
- 42:47I hate them and I don't want them to be good
- 42:49anymore. So that'd be I would love that. Yes.
- 42:54I hate. I don't know where I want him to go.
- 42:59Nashville. Well, yeah, but let's just get it.
- 43:04Why not? Hey, no state tax. He'd probably take
- 43:09a little bit less. Hopefully, I hope. We've got
- 43:13a lot of cap space. Yeah. And we have a lot of
- 43:17draft capital. Let's go get them. I mean, we
- 43:21could we could go real estate like we could do
- 43:23it. It'd be a lot. Yeah. Who cares? Everybody's
- 43:33doing it now. Everybody's trading away their
- 43:34picks. So no, Eventually nobody's gonna have
- 43:37any picks so it's not even gonna matter There
- 43:42was this one time I watched this dude on YouTube
- 43:45play play NHL 26 and He he took the Tampa Bay
- 43:51Lightning and used them to get every single first
- 43:56round pick It's pretty wild What do you mean
- 44:02like every single first round pick like Like
- 44:04already picked, like he got every, he got every
- 44:10team's first round pick. Yes. He got every team's
- 44:12first round pick. I did a really bad job explaining
- 44:14that. I was like, he's, he's gotten, he's got,
- 44:17he got every first round pick ever. Like he got
- 44:20like Connor McDavid and like, no, no, he got
- 44:24like, he did like a, I acquired the physical
- 44:29pick. Yes. Yes. Of the 20, 26 draft. Yeah. Okay.
- 44:35I was like, this is pretty funny. Cause it's
- 44:40like, someone's got to hit 30 of these things.
- 44:46One of them's bound to be good. Yeah. It's like,
- 44:50dude, you can trade Kucherov for like three,
- 44:52four, three, four first round picks. And if they're
- 44:54like the same, this is just the first round pick
- 44:58for like that, that specific year. And so he
- 45:01would like, take the, the first round picks from,
- 45:04from the following year and use them to get the
- 45:07first round picks for this year. And then like
- 45:10throw in like a, you know, seventh or something,
- 45:14you know, just to add a little more value. And
- 45:16then like, he did the same thing with like Jake
- 45:19Gensel and then like Andre Vasquez, Victor Headman,
- 45:24you know, all the good players, Braden point,
- 45:27they have a lot of good players and they, and
- 45:29then he did it. It was wild. um anyway um i guess
- 45:36one last thing about hockey um it was recently
- 45:39announced the uh the inductees for for this year's
- 45:43nhl hall of fame and uh surprise pecarini will
- 45:49be a hall of famer um who's surprised i was surprised
- 45:54i'm kind of surprised i don't i was gonna say
- 45:58haters are surprised but Well, I'll just say
- 46:01hand up. I don't know exactly know like the threshold
- 46:03for the hockey hall of fame. Like I know baseball
- 46:06is insanely hard to get into. Football is incredibly
- 46:09easy comparatively. Basketball is kind of somewhere
- 46:12in the middle. So I didn't know if hockey was
- 46:14like, if hockey, it was more towards the baseball
- 46:16level. It'd be like, yeah, pick it. No, but if
- 46:21it's more so in the middle or wherever it is,
- 46:25then it's like, okay, I get it. but it just doesn't
- 46:28exactly have like the hardware or some of the
- 46:30other like when I think of like a Hall of Famer.
- 46:35Yeah I mean it's I think it's a little bit in
- 46:38the middle like there's definitely there in the
- 46:41years past has been players that uh were snubbed
- 46:45for for quite some time for whatever reason like
- 46:48I think it was like a year or two ago um Alex
- 46:52McGilney finally got into the uh the NHL Hall
- 46:55of Fame which I mean, he was a player in like
- 46:57the 80s, 90s, maybe, I don't know. But he was
- 47:01a he was a great fucking player. And like he,
- 47:05maybe the 70s, he like escaped Russia, wherever
- 47:08that time period was, where, like the players
- 47:11that could be any decades, it's still be happening.
- 47:16Probably the 80s, but maybe maybe it wasn't maybe
- 47:21it wasn't Russia. Maybe it was maybe he was Czech.
- 47:23I don't remember. But anyway, So I get it been
- 47:26a long time since Like his playing days like
- 47:30he was fantastic player, but never never made
- 47:33I think until like a couple of years ago and
- 47:36so like when I hear people talk about like Snubs,
- 47:39it's like there's honestly like after this year
- 47:43It's there's not gonna be too many in my opinion
- 47:48like the big one was Keith Kachuck and He's he's
- 47:55going in this year. And so it's it's like oh,
- 47:58hey All right. Well, well there it is and so
- 48:04There's always I mean, there's always gonna be
- 48:06like a couple that are not in there that should
- 48:11have been But it just it takes like a couple
- 48:15of years sometimes they can't fit everyone in
- 48:18And I don't know. I don't know if there's like
- 48:20a there has to be like five years between their
- 48:23last game versus when they can get in. I don't
- 48:26know the rules. But the surprising part with
- 48:30Pekka was like, yeah, he won a Vesna trophy and
- 48:32a president's trophy and that's kind of it. I
- 48:37mean, I think his, but also I think his career
- 48:40save percentage is like in the nine thirties
- 48:44maybe, or like nine, like a high 29 or like a
- 48:47high 20, high nine twenties. It's, it's pretty,
- 48:49it's pretty up there. Yeah. I mean he's the best
- 48:54Nashville Predator for sure. Yes, for sure. So.
- 49:00And he. He has like three. I think it's 369 wins.
- 49:06Nice, nice, nice. Which in the grand scheme of
- 49:11things isn't a lot, but I because he started
- 49:15so late he became a starter like I think at like
- 49:1727 pretty late in his career. but also they might
- 49:23have got it brought up the fact that He's like
- 49:28he was an eighth round pick like he that like
- 49:31he was a pick in the draft where the round doesn't
- 49:35exist in you and So which is great, which is
- 49:38a great story and they might have factored that
- 49:43one in but Other than that, I mean, I think I
- 49:48think it was a bit of a surprise to me, at least.
- 49:53But hey, I'm not gonna complain. I think I think
- 49:59it's it's us as like, I feel like we're we're
- 50:02real fans where we I don't know, we judge things
- 50:07not by they're going to be awesome, but how they're
- 50:12going to be terrible. And that's just because
- 50:14we're Jay, we're jaded sports fans. That's what
- 50:15it is. That's that's the that's the phrase. And
- 50:17so like, I never thought that that would happen.
- 50:23Just because I don't think good things happen
- 50:26to our teams or our players, except when they
- 50:30leave. Most of the time. So this was a shock.
- 50:36What a good shock. I don't know. What was your
- 50:39reaction, Chris? Pretty much the same thing.
- 50:41Like, Oh, cool. I didn't see that coming. Like,
- 50:46like, yeah, I was very happy for him. That was
- 50:49like, Oh, wow. Okay. That's awesome. Something
- 50:52good happened in one of my teams, every one of
- 50:54my favorite players. That doesn't happen a lot.
- 50:57Let's go. Pretty much the exact same as you honestly.
- 51:02Well, I mean, I, I guess I was surprised at the
- 51:10fact that it was so early. Yes, I thought that
- 51:15he was going to the hall. it'd be like, minimum
- 51:20five years from now. Like, it Yeah, I at least
- 51:25always hoped that he would get in. But I don't
- 51:30know, like the minimum, like you need to be retired
- 51:34or whatever. But I feel like he hit the minimum,
- 51:39which is kind of crazy. But I for sure. Always
- 51:46thought he would Get in eventually Because I
- 51:52mean like watching him play like as a kid. It
- 51:56was just like this guy's unbelievable He doesn't
- 51:59let anything through Mm -hmm, and he would do
- 52:03these crazy ass saves like all the time Like
- 52:08he would make a show out of his saves like every
- 52:11night It's like what we paid to go see almost
- 52:16It's like, oh, Peck is going to do something
- 52:18crazy tonight. And it is also like the epitome
- 52:24of being like a Nashville sports fan, where it's
- 52:26just like, it's like, oh, we don't, our best
- 52:31player is the goaltender, which is a very important
- 52:33position. Don't get me wrong, but it's not like
- 52:36flashy, you know, but Peck made it flashy. He
- 52:41made it fun to watch him save pucks. So that's
- 52:46what I'll say, but Oh, yeah It was like right
- 52:51after he retired our friend Ryan. He like asked
- 52:53me he was like this Pekka Hall of Famer and I'm
- 52:56like I Don't know in my heart. Yes. Yeah Yes,
- 53:03definitely. I also think he might be he might
- 53:07be number one for finish goaltender wins I might
- 53:12have to look that would that would make sense.
- 53:14Yeah He was number it was either wins or like
- 53:17safe percentage or something like that. I remember
- 53:19them saying something it was towards the end
- 53:21of his career. Well, latter half, at least when
- 53:24he broke whatever record that was. Yeah. Who
- 53:30had it before? I mean, there was Mika Kiprsov.
- 53:33I was like Kiprsov is the only Finnish great
- 53:36Finnish goalie that comes to mind off the top
- 53:38of my head. Yeah. I have to look at the numbers.
- 53:42Winning his Finnish gold tender in NHL regular
- 53:46season history. Hell yeah. So he's won the most
- 53:52games out of any Finnish. But there's only been
- 53:56two Finnish Stanley Cup goalies. Is it him and
- 54:00Tuuka? It's a Tuuka. Tuuka Rask and Antti Nimen.
- 54:10Niemie. Yeah. Who is he with? Hawks. Yeah. Okay.
- 54:14I was like, that name sounds so familiar. Yes.
- 54:18I felt, I had like a bad gut reaction. I was
- 54:22like, I feel like I don't like that guy. It was
- 54:24like Chicago. That makes sense. Yeah. Always
- 54:31in our hearts. That's why we built the statue.
- 54:34That's right. Um, I think it might be all I got.
- 54:40Um, That's all right. We've been on an NHL for
- 54:44a minute. Yeah, I don't really know anything
- 54:48else after that Chris if you want to talk FIFA,
- 54:52I know you've been gambling like an sob Well
- 54:56before we get into that if we'd be crazy not
- 54:59to talk the honest trade That went down. Oh,
- 55:03yeah, actually went down. Yeah, I woke I woke
- 55:06up to that I think I was like, huh Yeah, he finally
- 55:10after years of will he won't he he was finally
- 55:14I had the details pull up Yeah, here we go Traded
- 55:17to Miami him and Bobby Portis to Miami for Tyler
- 55:20Harrow Khalil where homie Hawkins? Casper us
- 55:24yakin yaka Yaka Jonas three first round picks
- 55:28one pick swap and a second rounder Good for the
- 55:35heat I don't know if Yonis is on a better team
- 55:41now than he was yesterday, though. The Miami
- 55:46Heat, I mean, they traded all, and like, you're
- 55:49gonna have to trade good players to get a great
- 55:50one, but they traded most of their good players
- 55:54to get him. Like, now it's him, bam. Andrew Wiggins
- 56:00is fine, decent shooter, great defender for forward
- 56:03especially. Norman Powell was an all -star. But
- 56:06they can't afford him now. So when horse said
- 56:10that they have heart, like I know in the, in
- 56:13the NBA, the cap is kind of like whatever, but
- 56:15they're, he said, no, they have a hard 18 million
- 56:18cap space left. And in the NBA, that is chump
- 56:22change. Like vet men is like 4 million. So like
- 56:29you're going to be getting in just a bunch of
- 56:33guys going on vet men's like that's not. Ideal
- 56:37especially when you just traded for a superstar
- 56:40who's not exactly in his prime at the moment.
- 56:43He's 31 He's still yeah, I just oh he's still
- 56:49very good But and you but you have to build a
- 56:52team around him and they can't really do that
- 56:55right now yeah, I personally feel like he kind
- 56:59of fell off a like he just kind of exists in
- 57:03the void now I don't hear about Yanis like at
- 57:08all. Well, when you play for a small market team,
- 57:10especially the NBA, you have to be like MVP caliber
- 57:13for people to really talk about you. It's like,
- 57:14yeah, he's still a superstar. But yeah, he's
- 57:17not the same as I mean, yeah, he hasn't really
- 57:20been. He's not. He's not the same as when he
- 57:22won MVP. No, he hasn't really. I was going to
- 57:25say he hasn't really been in the MVP discussion
- 57:26the last few years, to my knowledge, at least.
- 57:30Yeah, it's like I feel like he's a ghost. This
- 57:33is like as a non NBA fan. This is very much things.
- 57:37Yeah. Like I was surprised it happened at least
- 57:40to the heat. This is very much like win now move.
- 57:45Usually don't see teams who haven't won a playoff
- 57:48series in three years make a win now move. You're
- 57:52usually kind of like, okay, let's focus on the
- 57:53future. And they just mortgage their future for
- 57:56a 31 year old big man, which yes, he's still
- 58:00great, but he don't really win with big men like
- 58:05this isn't the nineties. You need guards who
- 58:08can shoot and you traded all the ones you have
- 58:11that can shoot. Andrew Wiggins is fine, but he's
- 58:13not going to win you him and Andrew Wiggins and
- 58:16Giannis aren't going to win you a title. So,
- 58:18I mean, he are a very, very smart organization.
- 58:22Pat Riley is a great basketball mind. So I'm
- 58:24sure they have something up their sleeve, but
- 58:26it may be a couple of years, which if that's
- 58:28their plan, fine, but. He'll be 33, 34 at that
- 58:32point. So you're definitely going to have to
- 58:34win in the next few years. Did you did you mention
- 58:39the years on those picks? I mean, one tonight.
- 58:46I assume I assumed it was the next three. I do
- 58:49know, you know, not what oh, God, what is it?
- 58:52Oh, the NBA always does it like weird. The heat
- 58:55are sending to Milwaukee unprotected first rounders
- 58:58in twenty thirty one. And 2033 along with the
- 59:04number 13, a pick swap in 2030 and a 2033 second
- 59:10rounder. Ah, that's okay. So maybe they'll be
- 59:14fine then if they're going to maybe it'll just
- 59:16take a year or two, but maybe they'll be fine.
- 59:19Yeah. Um, that's a, that's a weird one. That's
- 59:24a, um, I, I don't, I don't think that anyone
- 59:30Anyone else in sports has traded a, a first -round
- 59:34pick in 2030. Yeah, that's, that's, uh, very
- 59:39much the John Mulaney thing. Like that's not
- 59:41a real year. Right. Decent chance. He's not playing
- 59:47anymore. When that, for when that comes. Yeah.
- 59:52That's five years from now. I'm not saying he,
- 59:56he'll be 30. Yeah. He'll be 36 and it's like.
- 59:59I'm not saying he can't be playing at 36, but
- 1:00:02when you're that big, usually guys that, that
- 1:00:06size don't play well into their thirties. It's
- 1:00:09hard. Yeah. I mean, yeah, that's not their fault.
- 1:00:14Look at him. You're not. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
- 1:00:16he is literally a freak of nature. It's his name.
- 1:00:20The Greek freak. So yeah, it's like bodies of
- 1:00:25freaks don't hold up. Get out of here. Break
- 1:00:32your break. But yeah, I was just, uh, when I
- 1:00:35saw like all the P all the players, they traded
- 1:00:37for you. I was like, who the hell is that hat?
- 1:00:41And they traded Tyler hero. And I was like, last
- 1:00:44time I checked that guy was a good player. Yeah.
- 1:00:47Like, I don't know. Like I said, you got to trade
- 1:00:49good players to get a grip, to get a superstar,
- 1:00:51but like I don't trade them all. Right. Yeah.
- 1:00:58They're going to be a hell of a defensive team
- 1:01:00now. So there's something that's supposed to
- 1:01:04be a great coach. So we'll see. I'm just waiting
- 1:01:07for someone in the NBA to, for a team to just
- 1:01:11start beating other teams up with their fists.
- 1:01:16I mean, it might be this scene. You're honest.
- 1:01:21I can't even understand you. What the hell are
- 1:01:23you saying? Bam. What the hell was that last
- 1:01:29name? Yeah, yeah, at a bio and into Tecumbo on
- 1:01:33the same team. I mean, BAM's American, but still.
- 1:01:38Right. Yeah, and that trade is going to go through
- 1:01:42in July. Oh, yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever
- 1:01:48the legal stipulations on that are. Yeah, I tried
- 1:01:51looking up on Instagram and I couldn't find it
- 1:01:55because it's not. It hasn't happened yet. It's
- 1:01:59not like I guess technically. Yeah It's set I
- 1:02:04think if this is a handshake agreement Most likely
- 1:02:07is the most it can be at this point Yeah, so
- 1:02:10I mean, I mean, yeah, they could back out of
- 1:02:12it if they want. Well, maybe not. I think they
- 1:02:13just Know walking might be. Oh, no, you said
- 1:02:19is one of those picks tonight Yes, I believe
- 1:02:24it was the 13th or 19th Okay 13th If it doesn't
- 1:02:31go through till July, how would they I think
- 1:02:34Milwaukee will have it will have the rights to
- 1:02:37the said player and then once they could just
- 1:02:40pick up fucking bum I Think if they they do pick
- 1:02:46a bum they can probably walk out Maybe yeah,
- 1:02:50I mean it does not say yeah, I mean You have
- 1:02:54to pick a guy from like DePaul. Yeah, but they'll
- 1:02:57probably be like, hey No Who's this guy you drafted
- 1:03:04Dougie buckets Cream Abdul Jabbar I'm st. Louis.
- 1:03:11I didn't even declare for the draft. I Wanted
- 1:03:16to sell insurance or cars That's funny I'd buy
- 1:03:23a car from cream Abdul Jabbar. He'd probably
- 1:03:28get me in a nice sedan. That's affordable midsize.
- 1:03:35He looks like that type. It'll get you where
- 1:03:37you're going. Yeah. Well, all right. Now, do
- 1:03:45we want to talk FIFA now? Or do you want to talk
- 1:03:47FIFA, Chris? Yeah, we can talk some foot. Yeah,
- 1:03:51it's called soccer now. Yeah, and you didn't
- 1:03:54know on this soil. It's soccer. So also Celsius
- 1:03:58is an energy drink, not a temperature. Just saying
- 1:04:04Celsius is here. Fahrenheit is perfect. 100 degrees
- 1:04:11makes sense. 100 degrees Celsius is like a billion
- 1:04:20degrees Fahrenheit. That doesn't make any sense.
- 1:04:23Doesn't make any sense. Stupid Europe. But yeah,
- 1:04:28footy's been good. Yesterday was wildly entertaining.
- 1:04:31Messy and Bape and Hollins all score two goals.
- 1:04:36That was pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, Messy became
- 1:04:42the all -time World Cup leader in goals. Yeah,
- 1:04:51yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he, he did. So yeah,
- 1:04:53that was, that was pretty cool to see. And he
- 1:04:55had it. He had a penalty kick like very early
- 1:04:59in the game and missed it. And people were like,
- 1:05:01Oh, messy. Like, what the hell are you doing?
- 1:05:02And then he scored on like a sick. He's like,
- 1:05:05he had a sick goal later to actually break it.
- 1:05:07Like, okay. Very, very good that he broke it
- 1:05:10on that and not as dumb ass penalty kick. Yeah.
- 1:05:17And then England today had their annual FIFA
- 1:05:21shit down our pants game where they tied Ghana,
- 1:05:24nil nil. Um, they look just bored the entire,
- 1:05:29they had one quality scoring attempt that set
- 1:05:32on ESPN. That game sucked, especially because
- 1:05:35I had decent amount of money on England to do
- 1:05:39things. And they did not. Not just item score.
- 1:05:44Because 365 had a super boost, scoring both halves,
- 1:05:48they didn't score neither. And then I had one
- 1:05:51of their guys to score or assist and then DraftKings
- 1:05:55had a goal boost. So I took him to score, to
- 1:05:59score or assist and to score. He got subbed out
- 1:06:03in like the 75th minute or something like that.
- 1:06:08I didn't give it out because I saw it late, but
- 1:06:10had over six and a half corners. That was it.
- 1:06:13So that was fun. Are corners just when they they
- 1:06:19start from the corner? Yeah. So it's like when
- 1:06:21the ball goes like past like the out of bounds
- 1:06:26off the goal line off like that defending team.
- 1:06:30So like if the ball went out off behind like
- 1:06:33Ghana's out of bounds behind Ghana's goal line
- 1:06:36off of Ghana player England gets a corner. And
- 1:06:39yeah, you kick it from the corner into the box
- 1:06:41and you try to score from there. Okay. That makes
- 1:06:44sense. Yes. Are corners electric? They can be.
- 1:06:48They're kind of, they're kind of electric. Yeah.
- 1:06:50Yeah. There's some really cool plays that develop
- 1:06:53off of corners. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes go get
- 1:06:57some sick ones. Sometimes I'll just kind of like,
- 1:06:59like barely kick it in and then just set up a
- 1:07:02normal play. And it's like, Oh, that wasn't fun.
- 1:07:05I want, I want it to be entertained. Yeah. Well
- 1:07:10that's soccer. That's either like. See, it's
- 1:07:13either one way or the other, to be honest. Like
- 1:07:16that's just the whole game. Yeah. Yesterday was
- 1:07:21really entertaining in terms of just like there
- 1:07:23was a shit ton of goals. And then today, I mean,
- 1:07:28Portugal beat the shit out of use Becca Stan,
- 1:07:31but, Oh yeah. Ronaldo scored a couple. Uh, but,
- 1:07:35um, I think we're in all though. I did see that
- 1:07:37he scored. He's the first player to score in
- 1:07:40four different world cups. Yeah. I do them playing
- 1:07:44forever. Yeah. It's only like, that's only like
- 1:07:4816 years, but I mean, that's still, it's still
- 1:07:51pretty, it's still really impressive. Yeah. To
- 1:07:54be one of the best play and especially the best
- 1:07:57player in your country. Maybe not the whole 16
- 1:08:01years, but for almost all of them is very impressive.
- 1:08:05Well, I don't know when he was like 18, if he
- 1:08:07was the best player, but He probably was. Maybe
- 1:08:09was. I don't know. I didn't really, I barely
- 1:08:12give a shit about soccer now. So I definitely
- 1:08:13didn't do the give a shit. I know that Ronaldo
- 1:08:19is basically a God. Yeah. Pretty much. I didn't
- 1:08:24like him. Portugal. Portugal. Chris, I don't
- 1:08:29know if you're as tuned in. You're just locked
- 1:08:31in with soccer at the moment. But I did hear
- 1:08:35some noise that Ronaldo might be a little washed.
- 1:08:38I don't know. Anything about this? Yeah, a lot
- 1:08:43of talk was coming off last week when he didn't
- 1:08:47score. I don't think the team as a whole scored
- 1:08:49against, I forget who they're playing, some inferior
- 1:08:53opponent. And then, yeah, that kind of got put
- 1:08:56to bed, I guess a little bit today. But yeah,
- 1:09:01I mean, I don't personally, I mean, I don't.
- 1:09:03care either way really, but I personally don't
- 1:09:05care for the guy. He seems kind of like a prick,
- 1:09:08but I'm definitely more of a messy in my very,
- 1:09:13very, very, very casual observance. I lean more
- 1:09:17towards team messy. Yeah. I've, uh, the, the,
- 1:09:22what I've seen, it seems that, uh, the con the
- 1:09:27general consensus is that messy is the goat,
- 1:09:30which. Yeah. It's kind of cool that like we're
- 1:09:34living in the the goat sort of era of soccer,
- 1:09:38you know, I have enough goats I've lived through
- 1:09:42enough goats Yeah, and the fact that he could
- 1:09:46just come to the mls and dominate makes me mad
- 1:09:49I mean it's the mls I know but like you're the
- 1:09:54best player in the entire fucking world and you
- 1:09:56come to like the least respected league football.
- 1:10:04Rack up some more hardware. Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:10:08Whatever. But hey, these guys will pay me. Yeah,
- 1:10:13that that cereal. Yeah. Well, I think he gets
- 1:10:16a cut of like the because they're on Apple TV.
- 1:10:19He gets a cut of like Apple money. Oh, I'm sure
- 1:10:23they had to do some ridiculous negotiations to
- 1:10:27get him. I believe they he also has like a percentage,
- 1:10:31a very small percentage of ownership of the team
- 1:10:33as well. That could be wrong. I don't know. Make
- 1:10:37him mayor while we're at it. Who cares? Whatever.
- 1:10:43One thing, Renato will always beat Messi at is
- 1:10:46he has the best like bust. Have you seen his
- 1:10:51like, Oh, the walkie eye. Really bad one. Yeah.
- 1:10:55The really bad one. That shit makes me laugh
- 1:10:58so hard. What is that for again is it like Some
- 1:11:02sort of Hall of Fame or is it just like a statue
- 1:11:04or I think it's some sort of Hall of Fame. That's
- 1:11:08so yeah, that's a All -timer that's so funny.
- 1:11:15It's for Last year the year before where there
- 1:11:23were a bunch of NBA players that got statues
- 1:11:26like Allen Iverson and Dwayne Wade And like the
- 1:11:29Allen Iverson one is like really, really small.
- 1:11:34Apparently that's like a thing. They have like
- 1:11:36a area. I do remember him being clowned for that,
- 1:11:39but I remember like they six or five, I think
- 1:11:42it's like, no, this is like our, I want to say
- 1:11:45like statue garden for lack of a better term.
- 1:11:49And there's like 10 of them there that are all
- 1:11:50that size. But yeah, when it first came out,
- 1:11:52I was like a little mean to make one of the smallest
- 1:11:55like players, at least elite players in NBA history.
- 1:12:00A very teeny statue. Right. He got this bust
- 1:12:06because Portugal renamed their airport after
- 1:12:11him. The Ronaldo airport. So they put a really
- 1:12:17bad bust in the airport. It is to say though
- 1:12:25that they did redo that bust because it looks
- 1:12:27like shit hours But it will forever live on Through
- 1:12:36the internet. Oh Yes until the dark days come
- 1:12:40it won't die I Did see I did see a video about
- 1:12:47I think it was like between games at during one
- 1:12:52of these days and uh someone asked uh Zlatan
- 1:12:58Zlatan do you think that the US can win the World
- 1:13:01Cup and he said I do Zlatan has spoken Zlatan
- 1:13:09with the confusing ass last name Ibrahimovic
- 1:13:14Ibrahimovic has spoken Zlatan has spoken I mean
- 1:13:20I think they could make a run If they can win,
- 1:13:23get the best day, if they can win two knockout
- 1:13:26games, I'll be very, very happy. I'm not expecting
- 1:13:30anything more than that. I've seen, I have seen
- 1:13:34like a decent amount of people online, like people
- 1:13:37on like networks that do not talk about soccer.
- 1:13:41And I'm not claiming to be an expert in anything
- 1:13:43being like, Hey, like, can we actually do this?
- 1:13:45And other people are like, Oh yeah, maybe it's
- 1:13:48like, no, we can't. We're not beating Argentina.
- 1:13:52France, fuck even Norway. Like, we're just not.
- 1:13:56Those guys have freaks of nature on their team.
- 1:14:00Yeah. This is like, Oh, it's I'm not. I mean,
- 1:14:04if we get that far, I'm like, yeah, fuck these
- 1:14:07guys. Who cares? But no. Right. I think. Sorry.
- 1:14:16No, go ahead. I have another thought. It's completely
- 1:14:18different from this, but OK. Yeah, I mean I'm
- 1:14:25very much like we'll see, you know I've shit
- 1:14:29I haven't even watched a USA game But I'm gonna
- 1:14:33on Thursday I will make a point to it to do that
- 1:14:38shit on Thursday the meaningless game, but So
- 1:14:46so if we lose nothing happens now we've already
- 1:14:49won it yeah, oh we're still in group play yeah
- 1:14:52this is the last game of group play for us at
- 1:14:55least on friday i thought that some teams still
- 1:14:58have one more game including us but nothing's
- 1:15:02like super set yet only then only like a few
- 1:15:07people have won only a few countries have won
- 1:15:08their group there's still like a shit ton that
- 1:15:12could happen with just like one game left which
- 1:15:16is kind of exciting We will play a third place
- 1:15:19team because I think every group winner plays
- 1:15:21at third place team, but yeah, we don't know
- 1:15:23who yet. That's not last mock. I think I said
- 1:15:25this whenever last mock tournament I saw it was,
- 1:15:30um, Bosnia, which I think we can be boss. Yeah,
- 1:15:36we can do it. Um, side note, I love all the foreigners
- 1:15:43trying ranch. Yes, dude. Yes, they're like, what
- 1:15:49is this? They don't have it They don't have ranch
- 1:15:54where they're from. I saw a video that Hidden
- 1:15:57Valley did that was like hey, you can you can
- 1:16:00fill up your Your little bottles of your you
- 1:16:04know, your tiny shampoo that you take, you know
- 1:16:06What you hear your travel size and just fill
- 1:16:08it with ranch and then take it back And I was
- 1:16:12like, you know what? that tsa picture of all
- 1:16:17the confiscated ranch what no yes all right so
- 1:16:24like foreigners are like trying to take their
- 1:16:27like ranch you know back home and so they're
- 1:16:32like stock they're like kind of stockpiling it
- 1:16:35um but you can't take and they're just they're
- 1:16:39not checking their bags like they're just putting
- 1:16:41it in their carry -ons so they're just like getting
- 1:16:45off this branch confiscated or like people are
- 1:16:50like leaving them at like the You know the TSA
- 1:16:54pre -check like just in the line or like in the
- 1:16:58trash can or whatever But it's so funny that
- 1:17:01like people are just trying to bring back branch
- 1:17:04They don't have it like how do you not have ranch
- 1:17:10like I didn't We're talking about this like I
- 1:17:15mean most Europeans like dressings are like Vinegar
- 1:17:19based they're not they're not dairy based terrible
- 1:17:22Yeah, they're like A very like a ball is good.
- 1:17:28Yeah, they're like vinaigrette's and balsamic
- 1:17:30vinegar and like all that Stuff you you put on
- 1:17:33a salad to be healthy You put ranch because you
- 1:17:39want to eat it yeah I want things to taste good
- 1:17:45now. I want to eat things that taste good. Well,
- 1:17:52I feel like hidden Valley, hidden Valley maybe
- 1:17:56has like a golden opportunity now. Like, Hey,
- 1:17:58we got to expand to Europe. Yeah. They'll lap
- 1:18:01it up like dogs. It's, it's a pretty, right.
- 1:18:06Just eat pretty easy to make. Like if you just
- 1:18:10like. look at the recipe on the back of a ranch
- 1:18:13packet. The ranch that you make will be better
- 1:18:16than the ranch in the Hidden Valley bottle. No
- 1:18:21shade on Hidden Valley. They've been there for
- 1:18:24me a numerous amount of times. During my darkest
- 1:18:28days. Nothing but Hidden Valley and sweet baby
- 1:18:33rays. So I just happen to have a bottle of ranch
- 1:18:38dressing within reaching distance. You do? Yeah,
- 1:18:44I was eating dinner and then brought this over.
- 1:18:48Soybean oil, buttermilk, water, egg, sugar, salt,
- 1:18:52sour cream powder, and then a bunch of other
- 1:18:54like chemicals that are hard to pronounce. So
- 1:19:00it's like, if you just really just use like five
- 1:19:03things, you can pick, rant, stretch it. Yeah,
- 1:19:06it's, I believe it's sour cream, buttermilk,
- 1:19:09by the way, no, it's It's mayo buttermilk to
- 1:19:13make buttermilk ranch if you just want regular
- 1:19:15ranch then it's just milk and then um and then
- 1:19:18seasonings Which is like dill garlic onion Salt
- 1:19:23make it I think the closest that like Europe
- 1:19:28has to ranch is like the The Greeks like they
- 1:19:34they do their their sauce. That's like the sauce
- 1:19:38tzatziki Yeah, like she's good Fucking good Yeah,
- 1:19:44that's that's about as close as I think you can
- 1:19:46get maybe I don't know I haven't traveled around
- 1:19:48the world so wouldn't know right What was your
- 1:19:52thing that you wanted to say Sean? Oh We got
- 1:19:55um It's okay. Yeah it I think there was a Golden
- 1:20:04missed opportunity in hindsight that the US is
- 1:20:09playing on the West Coast Because if they were
- 1:20:12played if they were in a different group They'd
- 1:20:13be playing on the East Coast and there's a possibility
- 1:20:16that they could have played England in Philadelphia
- 1:20:20on July 4th I Think it's pretty crazy that Philadelphia
- 1:20:28has a fourth of July game to begin with Do we
- 1:20:32know who's playing on 4th of July in Philadelphia?
- 1:20:34We do not. We do not. But it could be England.
- 1:20:39Oh, they're going to be the heels in that one.
- 1:20:44Yeah, that'll be it. I know there's going to
- 1:20:47be a lot of English fans around that neck of
- 1:20:51the woods if they make it that far. If you're
- 1:20:55in Phil, maybe stay inside for your own safety.
- 1:20:59Yeah, maybe just. Capture the vibes from the
- 1:21:03safety of your hotel or Airbnb. This whole fun
- 1:21:07-loving, oh, America, it's so entertaining and
- 1:21:10silly. That's going to go away real quick on
- 1:21:13the fourth in Philly if you're British. Where
- 1:21:16our country was founded. You will get assaulted
- 1:21:20physically. That's a borderline guarantee. Just
- 1:21:27don't go around talking that wet. Just don't
- 1:21:29do it. Oh, yeah. I mean, if you do, then maybe
- 1:21:33worse than getting roughed up. Any other day,
- 1:21:38sing your songs. I love the chants. I love the
- 1:21:42songs. Lizzie is dead. Lizzie is dead. Lily's
- 1:21:47in a box when Queen Elizabeth died. That shit
- 1:21:49was so funny. Well, that's not exactly English.
- 1:21:52That's not a pro -England chant. Oh, yeah. That's
- 1:21:56just a chant that I know off the top of my head.
- 1:21:59Lizzy's in a box. Lizzy's in a box. Hey ho. Lizzy's
- 1:22:04in a box. I think that was Scotland, maybe. I
- 1:22:07think it was Scotland or Ireland or something.
- 1:22:09Yeah. Yeah, one of those countries they oppressed.
- 1:22:13Despise the British, yeah. Arrgh. Well, anyway.
- 1:22:20Do you want to call it? Yeah, we can call it.
- 1:22:23I got some fun baseball facts for you. Hold on.
- 1:22:26Give me to stall for a couple of seconds while
- 1:22:29I pull them up. I saved it on Instagram. Did
- 1:22:32we say that this was going to be a weekly thing?
- 1:22:35Baseball facts? Yeah. Oh, I think I think I said
- 1:22:39I could do it weekly. I don't know if we officially
- 1:22:41established it. Where are you? Here we go. All
- 1:22:44right. So this is Barry Bond stats that sound
- 1:22:47fake, but are true. But do they count? That depends
- 1:22:53on your personal beliefs. Okay. 53 % of all runners
- 1:23:01driven in, in 2001s or in 2001 were driven in
- 1:23:05by Barry Bonds. Whoa. Over half fake over half
- 1:23:10of the RBIs in the MLB in 2001 were from Barry
- 1:23:14Bonds. Barry Bonds has more intentional walks
- 1:23:18than the Miami Marlins franchise. Yeah. If you
- 1:23:28turned every home run, Barry bonds ever hit into
- 1:23:31an out his career on base percentage would be
- 1:23:34384 the same as Alex Rodriguez. It will be hall
- 1:23:37of Famer Alex Rodriguez. If he never hit a home
- 1:23:41run, which he, that was kind of his thing. Wow.
- 1:23:47Chris, that, that sounds fake. Oh, but it's true.
- 1:23:52it's damn every fact check these or i mean no
- 1:23:57but computer are you gonna argue with it um very
- 1:24:01bonds has more mvp awards than any two combined
- 1:24:05hall of favors how many does he have uh a lot
- 1:24:13let me pull up like nine oh it might be Cause
- 1:24:20he was really good before he started doing steroids.
- 1:24:24Wow. That's a lot of MVPs. Seven. Damn. Seven
- 1:24:30time MVP, 12 times silver slugger, two time NL
- 1:24:35baddie champion, two time NL home run leader.
- 1:24:38Yeah. Really fucking good. Wow. Hey, good for
- 1:24:45that guy. And then there was There are a few
- 1:24:47more, but they're kind of technical. But then
- 1:24:49there's another thing that was just MLB facts
- 1:24:54in general that sound fake, but are true. So
- 1:24:57the entire history of Coors Field in Colorado,
- 1:25:00there have been 11 games that end 1 -0. That's
- 1:25:05a lot. Is that a lot or a little? That's very
- 1:25:10little. Oh, OK. Because it's elevation, so people
- 1:25:14hit a shit ton of homing. Oh, yeah. You're right.
- 1:25:16Yeah. Isn't that the, the park that has the most
- 1:25:19home runs too, because of the thin air? Probably.
- 1:25:22I don't know if there's like, if they have like
- 1:25:25the most average because they're relatively new
- 1:25:27franchise, but. Maybe like season average. I
- 1:25:35thought there were more fun ones. I thought I
- 1:25:37did see something about Coors Field being. They
- 1:25:40probably do. I just don't know. It's probably
- 1:25:46up there. Yeah, that was there aren't there weren't
- 1:25:49too many fun ones in there. That was a lot of
- 1:25:52technical statistical stuff. A few pitches and
- 1:25:57a complete game shutout was 58. That's fun. That
- 1:26:01was probably back in like the 20s. But all right.
- 1:26:05So there you have it. There's there's Chris's
- 1:26:10fun. fact or fun baseball fact MLB I saved those
- 1:26:18like I saved the thing on Instagram like a while
- 1:26:21ago and I was just like scrolling through my
- 1:26:23saves last week it's like hey I can use this
- 1:26:27let's go I'll find some more for next week excellent
- 1:26:32it has now been established Chris's MLB fun fact
- 1:26:36session of the week There it is. It is established.
- 1:26:42All right Thank you so much for listening. Thank
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