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At Our Essence, We Are Love: Becoming Intimate with Everything · Deep Transformation

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  Welcome
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  to
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  part
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  two
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  of
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  our
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  third
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  Path
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  of
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  Love
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  series
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  dialogue
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  with
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  A.
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  H.
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  Almaas.
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  In
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  this
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  episode
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  we
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  continue
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  the
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  journey
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  into
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  the
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  realms
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  of
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  our
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  absolute
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  nature
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  and
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  we
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  are
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  groundedly
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  reminded
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  if
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  there's
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  no
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  compassion,
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  there's
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  no
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  realization.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  Deep
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  Transformation
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  -
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  Society,Spirit.Life-enhancing,paradigm-rattlingconversationswithcuttingedge
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  thinkers,contemplativesandactivistswithDr.RogerWalshandJohnDupuy.
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  You
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  know,
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  Roger
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  mentioned
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  the
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  path
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  of
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  return.
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  This
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  mentioned
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  many
• 0:38
  other
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  teachings.
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  It's
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  not
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  just
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  the
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  diamond
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  approach,
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  divine
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  approach.
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  I
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  go
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  about
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  it
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  systematically
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  and
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  all
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  of
• 0:46
  that.
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  And
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  I
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  mention
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  all
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  that
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  also.
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  It
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  has
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  this
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  obstacle
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  and
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  thing
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  we
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  have
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  to
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  work
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  on
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  because
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  there's
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  a
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  fear
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  that
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  if
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  I
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  descend,
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  I
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  might
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  lose
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  the
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  beloved.
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  There
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  is
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  that
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  big
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  fear.
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  And
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  then
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  you
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  realize,
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  no,
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  the
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  beloved
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  comes,
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  you
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  are
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  the
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  beloved
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  coming
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  into
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  the
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  world.
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  So
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  you
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  had
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  that
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  experience,
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  Hameed,
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  when
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  you
• 1:08
  first
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  had
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  this
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  realization
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  of
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  the
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  inner
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  beloved,
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  just
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  the
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  kind
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  of
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  absolute
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  mystery
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  of
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  everything.
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  Bam,
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  there
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  you
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  are.
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  That
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  when
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  you
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  were
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  coming
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  out
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  of
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  that,
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  you
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  had
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  the
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  fear
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  that
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  maybe
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  that
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  was
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  just
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  temporary,
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  I'll
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  lose
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  it
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  and
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  go
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  back
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  into
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  the
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  world.
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  yeah,
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  definitely.
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  That's
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  big
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  things,
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  you
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  know,
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  fear,
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  all
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  kind
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  of
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  things
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  that
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  happen.
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  It
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  could
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  bring
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  up
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  historical
• 1:29
  thing
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  when
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  you,
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  when
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  you
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  lost
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  somebody
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  you
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  love
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  and
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  you
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  know,
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  and
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  things
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  like
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  that.
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  It
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  brings
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  up
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  those
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  old
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  wounds
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  and
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  you
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  have
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  to
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  work
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  them
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  through,
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  not
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  just
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  say,
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  don't
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  pay
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  attention
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  to
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  them.
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  If
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  you
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  do
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  that,
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  you
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  block
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  your
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  way.
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  You
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  have
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  to
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  welcome
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  it.
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  All
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  the
• 1:45
  wounding,
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  all
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  the
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  history
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  has
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  to
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  be
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  digested.
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  The
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  beloved
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  has
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  to
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  eat
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  them
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  all
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  up.
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  Love
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  that.
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  Yeah,
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  that's
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  very,
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  very
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  important.
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  And
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  there's
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  a
• 1:55
  theme
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  here
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  that
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  hasn't
• 1:57
  been
• 1:57
  explicitly
• 1:58
  mentioned,
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  but
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  you've
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  pointed
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  to
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  it
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  several
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  times
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  amid
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  and
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  feels
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  so
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  important.
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  Feels
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  it'd
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  be
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  worth
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  making
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  it
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  explicit
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  that
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  the
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  kind
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  of
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  transformation
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  you're
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  talking
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  about
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  of
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  the
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  realization
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  and
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  then
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  beginning
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  to
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  face
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  and
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  work
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  with
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  the
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  whatever
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  arises
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  and
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  possible
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  challenges
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  you're
• 2:19
  pointing
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  to
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  that
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  it
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  feels
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  and
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  some.
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  Well,
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  I'm
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  tying
• 2:24
  myself
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  in
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  knots
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  here,
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  but
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  seems
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  like
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  you're
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  pointing
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  to
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  the
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  fact
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  that
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  what
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  formerly
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  were
• 2:29
  obstacles
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  are
• 2:31
  now
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  recognized
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  as
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  expressions
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  of
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  the
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  absolute
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  and
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  enjoyed,
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  even
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  enjoyed
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  as
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  expressions
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  of
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  the
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  absolute.
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  Then
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  ordinary
• 2:41
  life
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  becomes
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  full
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  of
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  love
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  now.
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  So.
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  And
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  yeah,
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  I
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  mean,
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  I
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  live
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  my
• 2:47
  life,
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  I
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  enjoy
• 2:48
  normal
• 2:49
  things,
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  you
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  know,
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  but
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  for
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  a
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  while
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  I
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  didn't
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  care
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  about
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  them.
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  I
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  was.
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  I
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  didn't
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  want
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  to
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  be
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  with
• 2:54
  people.
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  I
• 2:55
  didn't
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  want
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  to,
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  you
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  know,
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  I.
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  I
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  was
• 2:58
  focused,
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  laser
• 3:00
  focused
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  on
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  that
• 3:02
  path.
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  But
• 3:03
  then
• 3:04
  realizing
• 3:05
  it
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  that
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  Natural.
• 3:07
  I
• 3:08
  didn't
• 3:08
  choose.
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  It
• 3:09
  wasn't
• 3:09
  choice
• 3:10
  that
• 3:11
  the
• 3:11
  next
• 3:11
  movement
• 3:12
  happens
• 3:12
  by
• 3:13
  itself.
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  Then
• 3:14
  the
• 3:15
  world
• 3:15
  comes
• 3:15
  back.
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  What
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  are
• 3:16
  you
• 3:16
  going
• 3:17
  to
• 3:17
  do?
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  Because
• 3:18
  I'm
• 3:19
  not
• 3:19
  dead,
• 3:19
  you
• 3:20
  know.
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  And
• 3:20
  the
• 3:20
  body
• 3:20
  hasn't
• 3:21
  died.
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  The
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  body
• 3:22
  is
• 3:22
  still
• 3:22
  alive
• 3:22
  and
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  it
• 3:23
  is
• 3:23
  expression
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  of.
• 3:24
  The
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  body
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  is
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  an
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  expression
• 3:25
  of
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  love.
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  And
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  the
• 3:27
  physical
• 3:27
  world
• 3:28
  expression
• 3:28
  of
• 3:28
  love.
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  So
• 3:29
  that's
• 3:29
  the
• 3:30
  thing,
• 3:30
  you
• 3:30
  know,
• 3:30
  these
• 3:30
  days
• 3:31
  many
• 3:31
  people
• 3:32
  are
• 3:32
  trying
• 3:32
  to
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  say
• 3:33
  what
• 3:33
  is
• 3:33
  the
• 3:34
  relationship
• 3:34
  between
• 3:34
  consciousness
• 3:35
  and
• 3:35
  the
• 3:35
  physical
• 3:36
  world?
• 3:36
  And
• 3:36
  all
• 3:36
  kind
• 3:37
  of
• 3:37
  theories,
• 3:38
  scientific
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  all
• 3:39
  that.
• 3:40
  You
• 3:40
  see,
• 3:40
  you
• 3:41
  know,
• 3:41
  I'm
• 3:41
  not
• 3:41
  engaged
• 3:42
  in
• 3:42
  that,
• 3:42
  although
• 3:43
  I
• 3:43
  have
• 3:43
  a
• 3:43
  scientific
• 3:44
  background.
• 3:45
  Because
• 3:46
  I
• 3:46
  don't
• 3:47
  think
• 3:47
  it
• 3:47
  is
• 3:48
  possible
• 3:48
  at
• 3:49
  the
• 3:49
  present
• 3:49
  time
• 3:50
  to
• 3:50
  have
• 3:50
  a
• 3:50
  mathematical
• 3:51
  or
• 3:52
  scientific
• 3:52
  way
• 3:53
  of
• 3:53
  combining
• 3:54
  the
• 3:54
  two.
• 3:55
  So
• 3:55
  I
• 3:55
  don't
• 3:55
  try
• 3:56
  it.
• 3:56
  I
• 3:56
  just
• 3:56
  say
• 3:57
  I
• 3:58
  know
• 3:58
  that
• 3:58
  love
• 3:59
  is
• 3:59
  the
• 3:59
  nature
• 4:00
  or
• 4:00
  the
• 4:00
  beloved
• 4:01
  and
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  nature
• 4:01
  of
• 4:02
  everything.
• 4:02
  I
• 4:03
  don't
• 4:03
  want
• 4:03
  to
• 4:03
  make
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  theory
• 4:04
  of
• 4:04
  it.
• 4:04
  I'm
• 4:04
  not
• 4:05
  trying
• 4:05
  to
• 4:05
  convince
• 4:05
  scientists
• 4:06
  of
• 4:06
  it.
• 4:06
  I
• 4:07
  only
• 4:07
  listen
• 4:08
  talk
• 4:08
  to
• 4:08
  the
• 4:08
  people
• 4:08
  who
• 4:09
  want
• 4:09
  to
• 4:09
  learn
• 4:09
  about
• 4:09
  it.
• 4:10
  You
• 4:10
  did
• 4:10
  mention
• 4:11
  how
• 4:11
  you
• 4:11
  tried
• 4:11
  to
• 4:12
  do
• 4:12
  that
• 4:12
  mathematically
• 4:13
  at
• 4:13
  one
• 4:13
  point.
• 4:13
  And
• 4:13
  you
• 4:14
  just
• 4:14
  said
• 4:14
  too
• 4:14
  many
• 4:14
  variables,
• 4:15
  forget
• 4:16
  about
• 4:16
  it.
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  couldn't
• 4:17
  do
• 4:17
  it.
• 4:17
  Yeah,
• 4:17
  I
• 4:17
  couldn't
• 4:18
  do
• 4:18
  it.
• 4:18
  Lately
• 4:19
  I've
• 4:19
  been
• 4:19
  talking
• 4:19
  to
• 4:19
  a
• 4:20
  friend,
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  mathematician
• 4:21
  friend.
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  think,
• 4:21
  well,
• 4:22
  maybe
• 4:22
  we'll
• 4:22
  come.
• 4:23
  You
• 4:23
  could
• 4:23
  use
• 4:23
  a
• 4:24
  quantum
• 4:24
  field
• 4:25
  mathematics
• 4:26
  in
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  math
• 4:27
  work.
• 4:27
  He
• 4:27
  thought
• 4:27
  that
• 4:28
  I
• 4:28
  don't
• 4:28
  know,
• 4:28
  it's
• 4:29
  possible.
• 4:30
  Well,
• 4:30
  I'm
• 4:30
  going
• 4:30
  to
• 4:30
  try
• 4:30
  and
• 4:31
  see
• 4:31
  whether
• 4:31
  we
• 4:32
  can
• 4:32
  do
• 4:32
  it.
• 4:33
  Because
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  variables
• 4:34
  are
• 4:34
  not
• 4:34
  physical.
• 4:35
  That's
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  problem.
• 4:36
  That's
• 4:36
  a
• 4:37
  problem,
• 4:37
  yeah.
• 4:38
  How
• 4:38
  can
• 4:38
  you
• 4:38
  do
• 4:39
  you
• 4:40
  put
• 4:40
  non
• 4:41
  physical
• 4:41
  variable
• 4:42
  into
• 4:42
  mathematical
• 4:43
  form.
• 4:45
  But
• 4:47
  the
• 4:47
  important
• 4:47
  thing
• 4:48
  is
• 4:48
  that
• 4:49
  that
• 4:49
  brings
• 4:50
  an
• 4:50
  undual
• 4:51
  side
• 4:51
  of
• 4:52
  the
• 4:52
  journey,
• 4:52
  the
• 4:53
  path
• 4:53
  of
• 4:53
  heart.
• 4:55
  As
• 4:55
  you
• 4:55
  know,
• 4:57
  Ramakrishna
• 4:59
  who
• 4:59
  was
• 4:59
  a
• 5:00
  bhakti,
• 5:01
  was
• 5:01
  non
• 5:02
  dual
• 5:02
  in
• 5:02
  his
• 5:03
  experience.
• 5:03
  He
• 5:04
  arrived
• 5:04
  to
• 5:04
  non
• 5:05
  duality.
• 5:05
  He
• 5:05
  talked
• 5:06
  about
• 5:06
  non
• 5:06
  duality.
• 5:06
  And
• 5:07
  that's
• 5:07
  what
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  get
• 5:08
  into.
• 5:08
  The
• 5:09
  beloved
• 5:10
  shows
• 5:11
  the
• 5:11
  non
• 5:11
  duality
• 5:13
  of
• 5:13
  the
• 5:13
  beloved
• 5:14
  and
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  rest
• 5:15
  of
• 5:15
  the
• 5:15
  universe.
• 5:16
  The
• 5:16
  rest
• 5:16
  of
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  universe
• 5:17
  is
• 5:18
  basically
• 5:19
  the
• 5:19
  radiance
• 5:20
  of
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  beloved
• 5:21
  out
• 5:22
  of
• 5:22
  the
• 5:22
  love
• 5:22
  of
• 5:23
  the
• 5:23
  beloved.
• 5:24
  I
• 5:24
  mean,
• 5:25
  which
• 5:25
  brings
• 5:26
  in
• 5:26
  the
• 5:27
  Sufi
• 5:27
  saying
• 5:28
  that
• 5:29
  where
• 5:29
  God
• 5:29
  says,
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  was
• 5:30
  a
• 5:31
  hidden
• 5:31
  treasure.
• 5:32
  I
• 5:32
  wanted
• 5:33
  to
• 5:33
  be
• 5:33
  known,
• 5:34
  so
• 5:34
  I
• 5:34
  created
• 5:35
  the
• 5:35
  world.
• 5:36
  Yeah,
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  mentioned
• 5:37
  a
• 5:37
  pearl
• 5:37
  of
• 5:38
  great
• 5:38
  price.
• 5:38
  The
• 5:38
  world
• 5:39
  is
• 5:39
  part
• 5:40
  of
• 5:40
  the
• 5:40
  hidden
• 5:40
  treasure
• 5:42
  and
• 5:42
  God
• 5:43
  wanted
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  see
• 5:43
  it.
• 5:45
  You
• 5:45
  see,
• 5:45
  how
• 5:46
  can
• 5:46
  you
• 5:46
  see
• 5:46
  it
• 5:47
  without
• 5:47
  manifesting
• 5:48
  it?
• 5:48
  That's
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  beautiful,
• 5:50
  beautiful
• 5:50
  framework.
• 5:51
  So
• 5:52
  as
• 5:52
  an
• 5:52
  individual
• 5:54
  enjoying
• 5:54
  life,
• 5:55
  I
• 5:55
  give
• 5:56
  God
• 5:57
  the
• 5:57
  opportunity
• 5:58
  to
• 5:59
  enjoy
• 6:01
  divine
• 6:02
  sport.
• 6:04
  It's
• 6:04
  God
• 6:05
  enjoying
• 6:05
  the
• 6:05
  world
• 6:06
  through
• 6:06
  himself.
• 6:07
  I
• 6:07
  mean,
• 6:07
  through
• 6:08
  his
• 6:08
  being.
• 6:08
  It's
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  same
• 6:09
  thing.
• 6:09
  It's
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  same
• 6:10
  thing.
• 6:10
  Yeah.
• 6:12
  I
• 6:12
  mean,
• 6:13
  you
• 6:13
  know,
• 6:13
  that's
• 6:13
  my
• 6:14
  definition
• 6:14
  of
• 6:14
  service.
• 6:15
  Because
• 6:16
  there's
• 6:16
  a
• 6:16
  path
• 6:16
  of
• 6:16
  service
• 6:17
  for
• 6:18
  me.
• 6:18
  Service.
• 6:19
  You
• 6:19
  know,
• 6:19
  you
• 6:19
  do
• 6:20
  things,
• 6:20
  you
• 6:20
  serve
• 6:20
  people,
• 6:21
  you
• 6:21
  serve
• 6:22
  cause.
• 6:23
  But
• 6:23
  the
• 6:23
  ultimate
• 6:23
  service
• 6:24
  is
• 6:24
  serving
• 6:25
  the
• 6:25
  inner
• 6:26
  beloved.
• 6:27
  How
• 6:27
  do
• 6:27
  you
• 6:27
  serve
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  inner
• 6:28
  beloved?
• 6:29
  Service
• 6:29
  fundamentally
• 6:31
  is
• 6:31
  to
• 6:31
  serve
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  truth,
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  inner
• 6:34
  truth.
• 6:34
  How
• 6:34
  do
• 6:35
  you
• 6:35
  serve
• 6:35
  it?
• 6:36
  You
• 6:36
  serve
• 6:37
  it
• 6:37
  by
• 6:37
  giving
• 6:38
  it
• 6:38
  the
• 6:38
  opportunity
• 6:39
  to
• 6:39
  appear
• 6:40
  and
• 6:40
  know
• 6:40
  itself.
• 6:41
  Oh,
• 6:42
  that's
• 6:42
  so
• 6:42
  beautiful.
• 6:42
  To
• 6:43
  me,
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  is
• 6:43
  actually
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  true
• 6:44
  cause
• 6:45
  of
• 6:46
  any
• 6:46
  practice.
• 6:48
  That
• 6:48
  is
• 6:48
  just.
• 6:49
  And
• 6:50
  do
• 6:50
  you
• 6:50
  still
• 6:51
  feel
• 6:51
  pain
• 6:51
  of
• 6:52
  compassion
• 6:52
  for
• 6:52
  others?
• 6:53
  When
• 6:53
  you've
• 6:53
  come
• 6:53
  to
• 6:54
  this
• 6:54
  state
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  realize
• 6:55
  what
• 6:55
  you
• 6:55
  are
• 6:56
  and.
• 6:56
  But
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  see
• 6:56
  somebody
• 6:57
  suffering
• 6:57
  on
• 6:57
  the
• 6:57
  streets,
• 6:58
  you
• 6:58
  still
• 6:58
  feel
• 6:59
  that
• 6:59
  pain
• 6:59
  as
• 7:00
  a
• 7:00
  part
• 7:00
  of
• 7:00
  your
• 7:00
  own
• 7:01
  true
• 7:01
  nature.
• 7:01
  Does
• 7:01
  God
• 7:02
  suffer?
• 7:02
  I
• 7:02
  guess
• 7:02
  is
• 7:03
  maybe
• 7:03
  what
• 7:03
  I'm
• 7:03
  trying
• 7:03
  to
• 7:03
  say.
• 7:04
  Yes.
• 7:05
  Pain
• 7:05
  and
• 7:06
  compassion,
• 7:07
  deeper
• 7:07
  than
• 7:07
  you
• 7:08
  can
• 7:08
  imagine.
• 7:09
  The
• 7:10
  compassion.
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  call
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  tender
• 7:11
  hearts,
• 7:12
  which
• 7:12
  is
• 7:13
  sort
• 7:13
  of
• 7:13
  almost
• 7:13
  intolerable
• 7:15
  tenderness.
• 7:16
  I
• 7:16
  missed
• 7:16
  what
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  called
• 7:17
  it.
• 7:17
  You
• 7:18
  said
• 7:18
  intolerable
• 7:19
  tenderness.
• 7:19
  But
• 7:19
  what
• 7:19
  was
• 7:20
  the
• 7:20
  term
• 7:20
  you
• 7:20
  used
• 7:21
  about
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  compassion?
• 7:24
  I
• 7:24
  mean,
• 7:25
  John's
• 7:25
  asking
• 7:26
  about
• 7:26
  does
• 7:26
  God
• 7:27
  feel
• 7:27
  pain
• 7:28
  for
• 7:28
  the
• 7:28
  suffering?
• 7:29
  And
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  divine
• 7:30
  is
• 7:30
  not
• 7:31
  exactly
• 7:31
  pain
• 7:32
  is
• 7:32
  more
• 7:33
  feeling
• 7:34
  the
• 7:34
  depth
• 7:34
  of
• 7:35
  compassion
• 7:36
  and
• 7:36
  tenderness.
• 7:37
  Because
• 7:37
  compassion
• 7:38
  is
• 7:38
  similar
• 7:38
  to
• 7:39
  sadness.
• 7:39
  I
• 7:40
  mean,
• 7:40
  very
• 7:40
  is
• 7:40
  the
• 7:41
  other
• 7:41
  side
• 7:41
  of
• 7:41
  sadness,
• 7:42
  but
• 7:42
  has
• 7:43
  like
• 7:43
  something
• 7:44
  like
• 7:44
  sadness.
• 7:44
  But
• 7:45
  it
• 7:45
  is
• 7:45
  really
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  deep
• 7:47
  warmth.
• 7:48
  But
• 7:49
  the
• 7:49
  heart
• 7:49
  becomes
• 7:50
  so
• 7:50
  delicate,
• 7:51
  so
• 7:51
  tender,
• 7:52
  so
• 7:53
  exquisite.
• 7:54
  Most
• 7:54
  people
• 7:55
  when
• 7:55
  they
• 7:55
  first
• 7:55
  encounter,
• 7:56
  they're
• 7:56
  just
• 7:56
  intolerable
• 7:57
  delicacy.
• 7:58
  Too
• 7:58
  intolerable,
• 7:59
  too
• 8:00
  vulnerable.
• 8:01
  But
• 8:02
  then
• 8:02
  that's
• 8:02
  what
• 8:03
  happens.
• 8:03
  This
• 8:04
  extreme
• 8:04
  vulnerability
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  from
• 8:07
  the
• 8:07
  place
• 8:07
  of
• 8:07
  realization
• 8:08
  is
• 8:08
  experienced.
• 8:09
  Instead
• 8:09
  of
• 8:09
  vulnerability
• 8:11
  at
• 8:11
  the
• 8:11
  beginning
• 8:11
  appears.
• 8:12
  Vulnerability
• 8:13
  becomes
• 8:13
  a
• 8:14
  delicacy,
• 8:15
  complete
• 8:15
  refinement
• 8:17
  and
• 8:17
  tenderness.
• 8:18
  The
• 8:18
  tenderness
• 8:18
  is
• 8:19
  so
• 8:19
  fine,
• 8:21
  so.
• 8:22
  So
• 8:23
  sensitive
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  anything
• 8:26
  that
• 8:26
  we
• 8:26
  see.
• 8:27
  So
• 8:27
  yes,
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  mean,
• 8:28
  that's
• 8:29
  true,
• 8:29
  Baba.
• 8:29
  Any
• 8:30
  realization,
• 8:31
  true
• 8:31
  realization,
• 8:32
  there's
• 8:32
  compassion
• 8:32
  with
• 8:33
  it.
• 8:33
  There's
• 8:33
  no
• 8:33
  compassion,
• 8:34
  there's
• 8:34
  no
• 8:34
  realization.
• 8:35
  That's
• 8:36
  an
• 8:36
  incredibly
• 8:36
  important
• 8:37
  point
• 8:37
  in
• 8:38
  teaching.
• 8:38
  I
• 8:38
  feel
• 8:38
  like
• 8:39
  I
• 8:39
  want
• 8:39
  to
• 8:39
  go
• 8:39
  in
• 8:39
  the
• 8:39
  corner
• 8:39
  and
• 8:39
  just
• 8:40
  meditate.
• 8:40
  But
• 8:40
  then
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  realize
• 8:41
  you're
• 8:41
  here,
• 8:41
  so
• 8:41
  I
• 8:41
  can't
• 8:42
  do
• 8:42
  that.
• 8:42
  So
• 8:43
  I'll
• 8:43
  stay
• 8:43
  with
• 8:44
  this.
• 8:44
  That's
• 8:44
  very
• 8:45
  powerful,
• 8:45
  Hameed.
• 8:46
  Well,
• 8:46
  meditate
• 8:47
  every
• 8:47
  morning.
• 8:50
  And
• 8:50
  also
• 8:51
  so
• 8:52
  resonant
• 8:53
  with,
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  guess
• 8:54
  particularly
• 8:55
  the
• 8:56
  Mayana
• 8:57
  Buddhism,
• 8:58
  where
• 8:58
  compassion
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  realization
• 9:00
  are
• 9:00
  just
• 9:01
  said
• 9:01
  to
• 9:01
  be
• 9:01
  inextricable.
• 9:02
  And
• 9:03
  you're
• 9:03
  pointing
• 9:03
  to
• 9:03
  something
• 9:04
  here
• 9:04
  amid
• 9:04
  that.
• 9:05
  I
• 9:05
  know
• 9:05
  for
• 9:06
  me
• 9:06
  and
• 9:06
  I
• 9:06
  think
• 9:06
  for
• 9:07
  most
• 9:07
  people,
• 9:07
  there's
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  confusion
• 9:08
  between
• 9:09
  compassion
• 9:10
  and
• 9:11
  pity
• 9:11
  or
• 9:12
  sympathy,
• 9:13
  which.
• 9:14
  And
• 9:14
  experientially
• 9:15
  as
• 9:15
  you're
• 9:16
  pointing
• 9:16
  out,
• 9:16
  they're
• 9:17
  really
• 9:17
  very,
• 9:18
  very
• 9:18
  different.
• 9:19
  Yeah,
• 9:20
  yeah.
• 9:20
  Because
• 9:20
  compassion
• 9:21
  has
• 9:22
  in
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  more
• 9:23
  empathy
• 9:24
  and
• 9:24
  feeling
• 9:25
  the
• 9:25
  pain
• 9:25
  of
• 9:26
  the
• 9:26
  other,
• 9:28
  feeling
• 9:28
  it,
• 9:28
  recognizing
• 9:29
  it
• 9:30
  and
• 9:30
  seeing
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  significance
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  it.
• 9:33
  And
• 9:34
  not
• 9:34
  only
• 9:34
  just
• 9:34
  their
• 9:35
  pain.
• 9:36
  There
• 9:37
  are
• 9:37
  different
• 9:37
  levels
• 9:38
  of
• 9:38
  pain
• 9:38
  that
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  see
• 9:39
  when
• 9:39
  I
• 9:39
  see
• 9:40
  somebody
• 9:40
  suffering
• 9:41
  first,
• 9:42
  their
• 9:42
  suffering
• 9:43
  that
• 9:44
  they're
• 9:44
  aware
• 9:45
  of.
• 9:46
  And
• 9:46
  there's
• 9:46
  compassion
• 9:47
  for
• 9:47
  that.
• 9:48
  There
• 9:48
  is
• 9:49
  compassion
• 9:49
  and
• 9:50
  love
• 9:50
  to
• 9:51
  help
• 9:51
  them
• 9:51
  with
• 9:51
  it.
• 9:51
  But
• 9:52
  also
• 9:53
  the
• 9:54
  compassion
• 9:55
  is
• 9:56
  not
• 9:56
  just
• 9:56
  their
• 9:56
  suffering
• 9:57
  because
• 9:58
  they
• 9:59
  were
• 9:59
  mistreated
• 10:01
  or
• 10:01
  lost
• 10:02
  lover
• 10:03
  or
• 10:03
  something
• 10:03
  like
• 10:03
  that,
• 10:04
  but
• 10:04
  also
• 10:05
  compassion
• 10:05
  for
• 10:05
  the
• 10:06
  deeper
• 10:06
  truth,
• 10:07
  which
• 10:07
  is
• 10:07
  that
• 10:08
  they
• 10:08
  are
• 10:09
  suffering
• 10:09
  like
• 10:09
  that
• 10:10
  because
• 10:11
  they
• 10:11
  are
• 10:11
  disconnected
• 10:12
  from
• 10:13
  their
• 10:13
  ultimate
• 10:13
  nature.
• 10:15
  That
• 10:15
  is
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  deeper
• 10:16
  wound.
• 10:17
  And
• 10:17
  I'm
• 10:17
  aware
• 10:17
  of
• 10:18
  that.
• 10:19
  And
• 10:19
  you
• 10:19
  can
• 10:20
  feel
• 10:20
  that
• 10:20
  from
• 10:20
  the
• 10:20
  inside
• 10:21
  out.
• 10:21
  In
• 10:21
  other
• 10:21
  words,
• 10:21
  God
• 10:22
  can
• 10:22
  feel
• 10:22
  that
• 10:22
  from
• 10:22
  the
• 10:22
  inside
• 10:23
  out.
• 10:23
  Of
• 10:23
  course
• 10:24
  you
• 10:25
  feel
• 10:25
  that.
• 10:25
  Yeah,
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  realize,
• 10:26
  you
• 10:27
  see
• 10:27
  they're
• 10:27
  suffering,
• 10:28
  and
• 10:28
  you
• 10:28
  know
• 10:28
  they're
• 10:29
  suffering
• 10:29
  that
• 10:29
  way
• 10:30
  because
• 10:30
  they're
• 10:30
  not
• 10:31
  in
• 10:31
  touch
• 10:31
  with
• 10:31
  that
• 10:32
  inner
• 10:32
  truth.
• 10:32
  If
• 10:32
  they're
• 10:33
  in
• 10:33
  touch
• 10:33
  with
• 10:33
  their
• 10:34
  inner
• 10:34
  truth,
• 10:34
  well,
• 10:34
  they
• 10:34
  won't
• 10:35
  have
• 10:35
  that
• 10:35
  suffering.
• 10:35
  There's
• 10:36
  no
• 10:36
  more
• 10:36
  fear.
• 10:36
  I
• 10:37
  would
• 10:37
  imagine,
• 10:38
  when
• 10:38
  you're
• 10:38
  in
• 10:39
  touch
• 10:39
  with
• 10:39
  their
• 10:39
  inner
• 10:39
  truth.
• 10:39
  Of
• 10:40
  course,
• 10:40
  they
• 10:40
  haven't
• 10:40
  gone
• 10:40
  through
• 10:41
  the
• 10:41
  path.
• 10:42
  Yes,
• 10:43
  the
• 10:44
  path,
• 10:44
  as
• 10:44
  you
• 10:44
  know,
• 10:44
  has
• 10:45
  a
• 10:45
  lot
• 10:45
  in
• 10:45
  it.
• 10:46
  So
• 10:47
  people
• 10:47
  who
• 10:47
  talk
• 10:48
  about,
• 10:48
  oh,
• 10:48
  you
• 10:49
  get
• 10:49
  an
• 10:49
  awakening
• 10:50
  and
• 10:50
  everything's
• 10:50
  gone.
• 10:52
  That's
• 10:52
  part
• 10:52
  of
• 10:52
  the
• 10:53
  story.
• 10:53
  There's
• 10:54
  stuff
• 10:55
  not
• 10:55
  worked
• 10:56
  out,
• 10:56
  need
• 10:56
  to
• 10:56
  be
• 10:56
  worked
• 10:57
  out.
• 10:57
  Otherwise
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  can't
• 10:58
  live
• 10:58
  in
• 10:59
  this
• 10:59
  world
• 10:59
  as
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  deity.
• 11:02
  I
• 11:02
  mean,
• 11:02
  you're
• 11:03
  reminding
• 11:03
  me.
• 11:05
  It's
• 11:06
  like
• 11:06
  the
• 11:07
  fairy
• 11:07
  tale
• 11:08
  story.
• 11:08
  Boy
• 11:09
  meets
• 11:09
  girl,
• 11:10
  fall
• 11:10
  in
• 11:10
  love,
• 11:10
  ride
• 11:11
  off
• 11:11
  into
• 11:11
  the
• 11:11
  sunset,
• 11:12
  live
• 11:12
  happily
• 11:12
  ever
• 11:13
  after.
• 11:13
  You
• 11:14
  know,
• 11:14
  if
• 11:14
  you've
• 11:14
  been
• 11:14
  in
• 11:14
  a
• 11:14
  relationship,
• 11:15
  you
• 11:15
  know
• 11:15
  something's
• 11:16
  been
• 11:16
  left
• 11:16
  out
• 11:17
  of
• 11:17
  the
• 11:17
  story.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:19
  you're
• 11:19
  giving
• 11:19
  us
• 11:20
  a
• 11:20
  much
• 11:20
  bigger
• 11:20
  story
• 11:21
  of
• 11:22
  which
• 11:22
  in
• 11:23
  so
• 11:23
  many
• 11:23
  accounts,
• 11:24
  so
• 11:24
  much
• 11:25
  has
• 11:25
  been
• 11:25
  left
• 11:25
  out.
• 11:26
  Yeah.
• 11:26
  And
• 11:27
  people
• 11:27
  in
• 11:27
  general,
• 11:28
  humanity,
• 11:28
  want
• 11:29
  love,
• 11:29
  need
• 11:29
  love.
• 11:30
  Human
• 11:31
  being
• 11:31
  cannot
• 11:32
  really
• 11:32
  survive
• 11:33
  as
• 11:33
  a
• 11:33
  child
• 11:33
  without
• 11:34
  some
• 11:34
  love,
• 11:34
  some
• 11:35
  place.
• 11:36
  You
• 11:36
  know,
• 11:37
  love
• 11:38
  is
• 11:39
  the
• 11:39
  main,
• 11:39
  the
• 11:40
  primary
• 11:40
  nutrition
• 11:41
  needed
• 11:42
  for
• 11:42
  the
• 11:42
  soul,
• 11:43
  for
• 11:43
  the.
• 11:43
  For.
• 11:43
  For
• 11:44
  even
• 11:44
  for
• 11:44
  the
• 11:45
  body
• 11:45
  to
• 11:45
  survive.
• 11:45
  Survive.
• 11:47
  So,
• 11:47
  Hameed,
• 11:48
  I
• 11:49
  kind
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  following
• 11:50
  up
• 11:50
  on
• 11:50
  the
• 11:50
  talk
• 11:50
  about
• 11:51
  God
• 11:52
  feeling
• 11:53
  pain
• 11:53
  from
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  inside,
• 11:55
  when
• 11:55
  you
• 11:56
  have
• 11:56
  this
• 11:56
  realization
• 11:57
  that's
• 11:57
  who
• 11:57
  you
• 11:57
  are.
• 11:58
  And
• 11:59
  there
• 11:59
  is
• 11:59
  this.
• 12:00
  In
• 12:00
  this
• 12:00
  journey,
• 12:01
  there's
• 12:01
  this
• 12:02
  kind
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  darkness,
• 12:03
  separation,
• 12:04
  longing,
• 12:04
  heartbreak.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:06
  then
• 12:06
  it
• 12:06
  becomes
• 12:07
  this
• 12:07
  complete
• 12:08
  focus
• 12:08
  on
• 12:09
  the
• 12:09
  beloved
• 12:09
  to
• 12:10
  exclusion
• 12:10
  of
• 12:10
  almost
• 12:11
  everything.
• 12:12
  And
• 12:12
  then
• 12:12
  it
• 12:12
  comes
• 12:12
  through
• 12:13
  this
• 12:13
  unitive
• 12:14
  experience.
• 12:15
  But
• 12:16
  it's
• 12:16
  not
• 12:16
  just
• 12:17
  a
• 12:17
  big
• 12:17
  mind,
• 12:17
  big
• 12:18
  heart.
• 12:18
  There
• 12:19
  seems
• 12:19
  to
• 12:19
  be
• 12:19
  a
• 12:19
  divine
• 12:20
  intimacy
• 12:21
  with
• 12:21
  everything.
• 12:22
  So
• 12:22
  it's
• 12:22
  not
• 12:22
  like
• 12:22
  you're
• 12:22
  just
• 12:23
  all
• 12:23
  out
• 12:23
  there.
• 12:23
  It's
• 12:24
  like
• 12:24
  in
• 12:24
  every
• 12:25
  particular
• 12:25
  is
• 12:26
  true
• 12:26
  nature.
• 12:27
  Every
• 12:27
  it
• 12:27
  is
• 12:28
  it,
• 12:28
  if
• 12:28
  you
• 12:29
  will.
• 12:29
  Yeah.
• 12:30
  I'm
• 12:30
  glad
• 12:30
  you're
• 12:30
  bringing
• 12:31
  in
• 12:31
  the
• 12:31
  question
• 12:32
  of
• 12:32
  the
• 12:32
  intimacy
• 12:33
  because
• 12:34
  that
• 12:34
  is
• 12:34
  one
• 12:35
  of
• 12:35
  the.
• 12:35
  I
• 12:36
  mean
• 12:37
  poets
• 12:37
  talk
• 12:38
  about
• 12:38
  intimacy
• 12:39
  with
• 12:39
  the
• 12:40
  beloved.
• 12:41
  But
• 12:41
  here
• 12:41
  is
• 12:42
  the
• 12:42
  beloved
• 12:43
  intimate
• 12:43
  with
• 12:44
  everything
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  the
• 12:45
  beloved
• 12:46
  nature.
• 12:48
  We
• 12:49
  talked
• 12:49
  about
• 12:49
  the
• 12:49
  emptiness,
• 12:50
  the
• 12:51
  non
• 12:51
  beingness.
• 12:52
  But
• 12:53
  also
• 12:53
  the
• 12:54
  beloved
• 12:54
  is
• 12:54
  not
• 12:55
  just
• 12:55
  non
• 12:55
  beingness.
• 12:56
  There'll
• 12:56
  be
• 12:56
  no
• 12:57
  experience.
• 12:57
  There's
• 12:58
  non
• 12:58
  beingness
• 12:59
  that
• 12:59
  is
• 12:59
  inseparable
• 13:00
  from
• 13:01
  beingness,
• 13:01
  from
• 13:02
  consciousness.
• 13:03
  And
• 13:03
  that
• 13:04
  quality
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  consciousness
• 13:05
  has
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  sense
• 13:06
  of
• 13:06
  intimacy,
• 13:07
  the
• 13:07
  feeling
• 13:07
  that
• 13:08
  people
• 13:08
  call
• 13:08
  intimacy
• 13:09
  but
• 13:09
  heal
• 13:10
  in
• 13:10
  a
• 13:10
  really
• 13:11
  pure
• 13:11
  way.
• 13:12
  Pure
• 13:13
  intimacy.
• 13:13
  So
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  pure
• 13:14
  intimacy
• 13:15
  fills
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  whole
• 13:16
  universe.
• 13:17
  The
• 13:17
  beloved
• 13:18
  is
• 13:18
  intimate
• 13:19
  with
• 13:20
  all
• 13:21
  things
• 13:22
  in
• 13:22
  the
• 13:23
  universe.
• 13:24
  Intimate
• 13:25
  with
• 13:25
  people,
• 13:26
  intimate
• 13:26
  with
• 13:27
  rocks,
• 13:27
  intimate
• 13:27
  with
• 13:28
  the
• 13:28
  stars.
• 13:29
  Because
• 13:29
  it's
• 13:29
  nature,
• 13:30
  intimacy.
• 13:31
  And
• 13:31
  it
• 13:31
  pervades
• 13:32
  everything.
• 13:33
  It's
• 13:33
  the
• 13:33
  inner
• 13:33
  nature
• 13:34
  of
• 13:34
  everything.
• 13:35
  So
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  intimacy
• 13:36
  is
• 13:37
  experiencing
• 13:38
  emptiness
• 13:39
  from
• 13:39
  the
• 13:39
  perspective
• 13:40
  of
• 13:40
  love.
• 13:41
  When
• 13:41
  you
• 13:41
  don't
• 13:42
  go
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  the
• 13:42
  path
• 13:43
  of
• 13:43
  love,
• 13:43
  the
• 13:43
  emptiness
• 13:44
  might
• 13:44
  not
• 13:44
  just
• 13:44
  feel
• 13:45
  like
• 13:45
  pure
• 13:46
  clear
• 13:46
  awareness.
• 13:47
  But
• 13:48
  when
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  go
• 13:48
  through
• 13:49
  the
• 13:49
  path
• 13:49
  of
• 13:49
  love
• 13:50
  and
• 13:50
  the
• 13:50
  emptiness
• 13:51
  has
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  sense
• 13:52
  of
• 13:53
  intimacy
• 13:53
  with
• 13:54
  it.
• 13:55
  There
• 13:55
  is
• 13:55
  awareness
• 13:56
  and
• 13:56
  consciousness,
• 13:56
  but
• 13:57
  intimacy,
• 13:57
  because
• 13:57
  there's
• 13:58
  heart
• 13:58
  here
• 13:59
  the
• 13:59
  heart
• 14:00
  is
• 14:00
  included.
• 14:01
  The
• 14:01
  path
• 14:01
  of
• 14:01
  the
• 14:02
  mind
• 14:02
  might
• 14:02
  not
• 14:03
  open
• 14:03
  the
• 14:03
  heart
• 14:04
  completely.
• 14:04
  The
• 14:05
  heart,
• 14:05
  I
• 14:05
  mean,
• 14:07
  Mahasa
• 14:08
  talk
• 14:08
  about
• 14:08
  compassion
• 14:09
  and
• 14:09
  all
• 14:09
  that.
• 14:10
  But
• 14:10
  it's
• 14:11
  not
• 14:11
  like
• 14:12
  it's
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  universal
• 14:13
  compassion
• 14:13
  and
• 14:14
  could
• 14:14
  be
• 14:15
  overwhelming
• 14:15
  compassion
• 14:16
  as
• 14:16
  some
• 14:16
  of
• 14:16
  the
• 14:17
  Tibetan
• 14:17
  masters
• 14:18
  talk
• 14:18
  about.
• 14:19
  But
• 14:19
  there's
• 14:20
  no
• 14:20
  mention
• 14:21
  about
• 14:21
  intimacy
• 14:22
  with
• 14:22
  everything.
• 14:24
  Maybe
• 14:24
  it's
• 14:24
  mentioned
• 14:25
  someplace.
• 14:25
  Maybe
• 14:26
  Longchampa
• 14:27
  said
• 14:27
  it
• 14:28
  someplace.
• 14:28
  You
• 14:28
  know,
• 14:28
  Raja
• 14:29
  will
• 14:29
  know.
• 14:29
  He's
• 14:29
  read
• 14:30
  all
• 14:30
  his
• 14:30
  books.
• 14:31
  But
• 14:31
  the
• 14:31
  intimacy
• 14:31
  is
• 14:32
  not
• 14:32
  emotional
• 14:33
  intimacy.
• 14:34
  It
• 14:34
  is
• 14:34
  an
• 14:34
  essential
• 14:35
  intimacy.
• 14:36
  Intimacy,
• 14:36
  pure
• 14:37
  consciousness
• 14:38
  is
• 14:38
  pure
• 14:39
  being.
• 14:40
  Feel
• 14:40
  like
• 14:41
  intimacy.
• 14:41
  There's
• 14:41
  no
• 14:42
  distance.
• 14:42
  But
• 14:43
  the
• 14:43
  new
• 14:43
  distance
• 14:44
  has
• 14:44
  love
• 14:44
  in
• 14:45
  it.
• 14:45
  So
• 14:45
  it
• 14:45
  has
• 14:46
  a
• 14:46
  softness
• 14:46
  and
• 14:47
  a
• 14:47
  tenderness
• 14:48
  that
• 14:48
  feels
• 14:48
  like
• 14:49
  what
• 14:50
  you
• 14:50
  call
• 14:50
  intimate.
• 14:50
  When
• 14:51
  you're
• 14:51
  intimate
• 14:51
  with
• 14:52
  somebody
• 14:52
  and
• 14:52
  you
• 14:53
  feel
• 14:53
  how
• 14:53
  there's
• 14:54
  heart
• 14:54
  and
• 14:55
  connection
• 14:56
  and
• 14:56
  all
• 14:56
  of
• 14:56
  that,
• 14:57
  it
• 14:57
  has
• 14:58
  all
• 14:58
  those
• 14:59
  heart
• 14:59
  nuances
• 15:00
  to
• 15:02
  is
• 15:02
  a
• 15:02
  delicious
• 15:02
  feeling.
• 15:03
  It's
• 15:03
  part
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  the
• 15:04
  bliss
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  realizing
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  beloved
• 15:07
  has
• 15:07
  a
• 15:08
  sense
• 15:08
  of
• 15:08
  intimacy
• 15:09
  with
• 15:09
  everything.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:10
  it's
• 15:10
  interesting
• 15:11
  because
• 15:12
  everything
• 15:12
  turns
• 15:13
  out
• 15:13
  to
• 15:13
  be
• 15:14
  the
• 15:14
  outer
• 15:15
  appearance
• 15:16
  of
• 15:16
  the
• 15:17
  nature
• 15:18
  of
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  beloved.
• 15:19
  The
• 15:19
  essence
• 15:19
  of
• 15:20
  the
• 15:20
  beloved.
• 15:20
  The
• 15:20
  beloved
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  not
• 15:23
  just
• 15:23
  beloved.
• 15:24
  It's
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  beloved
• 15:25
  but
• 15:25
  also
• 15:25
  the
• 15:25
  nature
• 15:26
  of
• 15:26
  everything
• 15:27
  at
• 15:27
  the
• 15:27
  same
• 15:27
  time.
• 15:28
  I
• 15:29
  mean
• 15:29
  emptiness
• 15:29
  is
• 15:30
  an
• 15:30
  important
• 15:30
  part
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  it.
• 15:31
  That
• 15:32
  is
• 15:32
  what
• 15:32
  lead
• 15:32
  to
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  cessation
• 15:34
  and
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  fana
• 15:35
  and
• 15:35
  the
• 15:36
  suvis
• 15:36
  talk
• 15:36
  about
• 15:37
  if
• 15:37
  we
• 15:37
  get
• 15:38
  close
• 15:38
  to
• 15:38
  it,
• 15:39
  the
• 15:40
  lover
• 15:40
  can.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:42
  approaching
• 15:43
  that
• 15:44
  kind
• 15:44
  of
• 15:44
  emptiness
• 15:46
  is
• 15:46
  what
• 15:46
  I
• 15:47
  call
• 15:47
  one
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  chapters,
• 15:48
  the
• 15:49
  primal
• 15:49
  cavity.
• 15:50
  Roger,
• 15:50
  you
• 15:51
  probably
• 15:51
  remember
• 15:51
  that,
• 15:52
  that
• 15:53
  wishing.
• 15:53
  There's
• 15:53
  a
• 15:53
  primal
• 15:54
  cavity,
• 15:55
  which
• 15:55
  is
• 15:55
  again,
• 15:56
  a
• 15:56
  Freudian
• 15:56
  concept,
• 15:58
  like
• 15:59
  many
• 15:59
  people
• 16:00
  have
• 16:00
  sometime
• 16:01
  when
• 16:01
  they
• 16:01
  go
• 16:02
  deep
• 16:02
  inside
• 16:02
  themselves,
• 16:03
  they
• 16:03
  want
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  crawl
• 16:04
  back
• 16:04
  in
• 16:05
  their
• 16:05
  mother's
• 16:05
  womb.
• 16:06
  It's
• 16:06
  a
• 16:06
  deep
• 16:06
  wish.
• 16:07
  You
• 16:07
  want
• 16:07
  to
• 16:07
  go
• 16:07
  back
• 16:07
  because
• 16:08
  it
• 16:08
  felt
• 16:08
  heavily
• 16:09
  there
• 16:09
  and
• 16:10
  no
• 16:11
  problems.
• 16:11
  And
• 16:12
  there's
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  regressive.
• 16:14
  He
• 16:14
  calls
• 16:14
  it
• 16:15
  the
• 16:15
  regressive
• 16:15
  wish,
• 16:17
  which
• 16:17
  is
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  primal
• 16:18
  cavity,
• 16:18
  the
• 16:18
  regressive
• 16:19
  wish
• 16:19
  to
• 16:19
  go
• 16:19
  back
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  the
• 16:20
  womb.
• 16:21
  And
• 16:22
  it
• 16:22
  is
• 16:22
  really
• 16:23
  underlying
• 16:24
  that
• 16:24
  regressive
• 16:25
  wish
• 16:26
  is
• 16:26
  the
• 16:27
  wish
• 16:27
  to
• 16:27
  go
• 16:28
  into
• 16:28
  the
• 16:28
  emptiness,
• 16:29
  because
• 16:29
  emptiness
• 16:29
  is
• 16:30
  dark,
• 16:31
  black.
• 16:33
  So
• 16:33
  the
• 16:33
  primal
• 16:34
  cavity
• 16:35
  that
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  remember
• 16:36
  myself
• 16:37
  experiencing
• 16:37
  thinking,
• 16:38
  dark
• 16:39
  hole,
• 16:40
  I'm
• 16:40
  going
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  crawl
• 16:41
  into
• 16:41
  whatever.
• 16:42
  But
• 16:43
  then
• 16:43
  when
• 16:43
  I
• 16:43
  found
• 16:44
  out
• 16:44
  what
• 16:44
  is
• 16:44
  its
• 16:45
  nature,
• 16:45
  it's
• 16:45
  completely
• 16:46
  empty.
• 16:47
  Total
• 16:49
  emptiness
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  is
• 16:50
  so
• 16:50
  clear,
• 16:50
  so
• 16:51
  pure,
• 16:52
  so
• 16:53
  nothing
• 16:53
  there.
• 16:54
  It's
• 16:54
  nothing
• 16:54
  to
• 16:55
  do
• 16:55
  with
• 16:55
  my
• 16:55
  mother's
• 16:56
  womb.
• 16:56
  So
• 16:57
  that's
• 16:57
  again,
• 16:58
  Freud
• 16:59
  bringing
• 16:59
  in
• 17:00
  something
• 17:00
  universal
• 17:02
  that
• 17:02
  most
• 17:03
  people
• 17:03
  don't
• 17:04
  understand.
• 17:05
  Yeah.
• 17:05
  Oh,
• 17:06
  he
• 17:06
  was
• 17:06
  full
• 17:06
  of
• 17:07
  shit.
• 17:07
  What's
• 17:07
  this
• 17:07
  primal
• 17:08
  cavity,
• 17:08
  wanting
• 17:09
  to
• 17:09
  go
• 17:09
  back
• 17:10
  to
• 17:10
  the
• 17:10
  womb?
• 17:11
  It's
• 17:11
  actually
• 17:11
  a
• 17:12
  real
• 17:12
  thing
• 17:12
  because
• 17:12
  there's
• 17:13
  a
• 17:13
  misinterpretation,
• 17:15
  the
• 17:15
  movement
• 17:15
  over
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  emptiness.
• 17:17
  Like
• 17:17
  somehow
• 17:18
  the
• 17:18
  heart
• 17:18
  knows
• 17:19
  that
• 17:19
  the
• 17:19
  beloved
• 17:20
  has
• 17:20
  an
• 17:20
  emptiness
• 17:21
  side
• 17:22
  to
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  beloved.
• 17:23
  And
• 17:24
  that
• 17:24
  emptiness
• 17:25
  in
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  heart
• 17:25
  was
• 17:25
  created
• 17:27
  by
• 17:27
  the
• 17:27
  beloved
• 17:28
  because
• 17:28
  that's
• 17:28
  where
• 17:29
  it
• 17:30
  appears.
• 17:30
  That's
• 17:31
  where
• 17:31
  it
• 17:31
  comes
• 17:31
  through.
• 17:32
  Yeah,
• 17:32
  there's
• 17:33
  the
• 17:33
  first.
• 17:33
  The
• 17:33
  heart
• 17:34
  has
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  be
• 17:34
  emptied.
• 17:35
  All
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  thing
• 17:36
  in
• 17:36
  it.
• 17:36
  And
• 17:37
  then
• 17:37
  that
• 17:37
  we
• 17:37
  talked
• 17:38
  about
• 17:38
  that
• 17:38
  last
• 17:38
  time
• 17:39
  about
• 17:39
  the
• 17:39
  mystical
• 17:40
  poverty
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  all
• 17:41
  of
• 17:41
  that
• 17:42
  which
• 17:42
  many
• 17:43
  writers
• 17:43
  wrote
• 17:43
  about
• 17:44
  that
• 17:44
  is
• 17:45
  on
• 17:45
  the
• 17:45
  way
• 17:45
  as
• 17:46
  part
• 17:46
  of
• 17:46
  the
• 17:46
  path
• 17:46
  of
• 17:46
  the
• 17:47
  heart,
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  mystical
• 17:47
  poverty.
• 17:48
  You
• 17:48
  need
• 17:48
  to
• 17:48
  go
• 17:49
  through
• 17:49
  mystical
• 17:50
  poverty,
• 17:50
  which
• 17:51
  we
• 17:51
  realize
• 17:51
  you
• 17:52
  don't
• 17:52
  have
• 17:52
  anything.
• 17:52
  There's
• 17:53
  nothing
• 17:53
  there.
• 17:53
  But
• 17:53
  here,
• 17:54
  from
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  perspective
• 17:54
  of
• 17:54
  the
• 17:54
  heart,
• 17:55
  there's
• 17:56
  nothing
• 17:56
  there
• 17:56
  in
• 17:56
  the
• 17:56
  heart.
• 17:57
  That
• 17:57
  empty
• 17:58
  arid
• 17:58
  all
• 17:58
  of
• 17:59
  that.
• 18:00
  And
• 18:00
  then
• 18:01
  as
• 18:01
  you
• 18:02
  stay
• 18:02
  with
• 18:02
  that,
• 18:02
  accept
• 18:03
  it
• 18:03
  and
• 18:03
  not
• 18:04
  reject
• 18:04
  it,
• 18:04
  it
• 18:05
  opens
• 18:05
  up
• 18:05
  to
• 18:06
  the
• 18:06
  true
• 18:06
  clarity,
• 18:07
  which
• 18:07
  is
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  searing
• 18:08
  clarity.
• 18:09
  It's
• 18:09
  emptiness.
• 18:11
  The
• 18:11
  emptiness
• 18:12
  brings
• 18:13
  in
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  searing
• 18:14
  clarity.
• 18:16
  The
• 18:16
  Buddhists
• 18:16
  emphasize.
• 18:18
  And
• 18:18
  not
• 18:18
  from
• 18:19
  love,
• 18:19
  though.
• 18:20
  The
• 18:20
  Buddhists
• 18:21
  don't
• 18:21
  like
• 18:21
  love.
• 18:24
  They
• 18:24
  don't.
• 18:25
  The
• 18:25
  Dalai
• 18:25
  Lama
• 18:25
  talks
• 18:26
  about
• 18:26
  it,
• 18:26
  but
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  remember
• 18:28
  my
• 18:28
  Rinpoche,
• 18:29
  when
• 18:29
  I
• 18:29
  asked
• 18:29
  what
• 18:30
  Muslim
• 18:31
  talk
• 18:31
  about
• 18:31
  love,
• 18:32
  he
• 18:32
  said,
• 18:32
  no,
• 18:33
  we
• 18:33
  don't
• 18:33
  like
• 18:33
  to,
• 18:33
  because
• 18:34
  it
• 18:34
  brings
• 18:34
  attachment.
• 18:36
  So
• 18:37
  we
• 18:37
  talk
• 18:37
  about
• 18:37
  compassion.
• 18:39
  Compassion
• 18:40
  doesn't
• 18:40
  bring
• 18:40
  attachment.
• 18:41
  But
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  said,
• 18:42
  yeah,
• 18:42
  it's
• 18:43
  true.
• 18:43
  But
• 18:43
  there
• 18:44
  is
• 18:44
  attachment.
• 18:45
  But
• 18:45
  you
• 18:45
  can
• 18:45
  work
• 18:45
  through
• 18:45
  the
• 18:46
  attachment.
• 18:48
  You
• 18:48
  know,
• 18:48
  there
• 18:48
  isn't.
• 18:49
  Doesn't
• 18:49
  seem
• 18:49
  in
• 18:50
  that
• 18:50
  path
• 18:50
  to
• 18:50
  be
• 18:50
  a
• 18:51
  recognition
• 18:51
  that
• 18:52
  love
• 18:52
  itself
• 18:53
  can
• 18:53
  be
• 18:53
  a
• 18:53
  path.
• 18:54
  For
• 18:54
  sure.
• 18:55
  Yeah.
• 18:55
  I
• 18:55
  mean,
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  want
• 18:56
  to.
• 18:57
  There
• 18:57
  was
• 18:57
  so
• 18:57
  there
• 18:58
  was
• 18:58
  a
• 18:58
  lot
• 18:58
  in
• 18:59
  what
• 18:59
  you
• 18:59
  were
• 18:59
  implying
• 19:00
  when
• 19:01
  you
• 19:01
  spoke
• 19:01
  of
• 19:01
  compassion.
• 19:02
  So
• 19:02
  just
• 19:03
  want
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  go
• 19:04
  back
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  that
• 19:05
  as
• 19:05
  you
• 19:05
  were
• 19:05
  implying
• 19:06
  that
• 19:06
  this
• 19:07
  profound
• 19:07
  compassion,
• 19:08
  which
• 19:09
  recognizes
• 19:10
  not
• 19:10
  only
• 19:10
  the
• 19:11
  physical
• 19:11
  or
• 19:12
  mental
• 19:12
  suffering
• 19:13
  but
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  existential,
• 19:14
  spiritual
• 19:15
  suffering
• 19:16
  as
• 19:16
  its
• 19:17
  root,
• 19:17
  is
• 19:18
  in
• 19:18
  some
• 19:18
  ways
• 19:18
  a
• 19:19
  culmination
• 19:20
  of
• 19:20
  the
• 19:20
  path
• 19:21
  of
• 19:21
  love.
• 19:22
  And
• 19:23
  certainly
• 19:24
  this
• 19:24
  echoes
• 19:25
  the
• 19:25
  Mayana
• 19:25
  Buddhist
• 19:26
  theme
• 19:26
  of.
• 19:27
  Well,
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  two
• 19:28
  great
• 19:28
  virtues
• 19:29
  of
• 19:29
  that
• 19:30
  path,
• 19:30
  wisdom
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  compassion.
• 19:32
  Can
• 19:32
  you
• 19:33
  say
• 19:36
  what's
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  relationship
• 19:37
  here
• 19:38
  between
• 19:39
  love
• 19:40
  and
• 19:40
  compassion?
• 19:42
  They
• 19:42
  feel
• 19:42
  closely
• 19:43
  related.
• 19:43
  But
• 19:44
  the
• 19:44
  way
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  understand
• 19:45
  it
• 19:46
  is
• 19:46
  that
• 19:46
  compassion
• 19:47
  is
• 19:48
  an
• 19:48
  expression
• 19:49
  of
• 19:49
  love.
• 19:49
  Compassion
• 19:50
  is
• 19:51
  a
• 19:51
  loving
• 19:51
  tenderness.
• 19:53
  You
• 19:53
  see,
• 19:54
  compassion
• 19:55
  doesn't
• 19:55
  have
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  sweetness
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  love.
• 19:56
  Love
• 19:57
  has
• 19:57
  a
• 19:57
  sense
• 19:57
  of
• 19:58
  sweetness,
• 19:58
  but
• 19:59
  it
• 19:59
  does
• 19:59
  have
• 19:59
  softness
• 20:00
  and
• 20:00
  tenderness
• 20:01
  in
• 20:01
  it.
• 20:02
  In
• 20:02
  the
• 20:02
  compassion,
• 20:03
  there's
• 20:03
  no
• 20:03
  sweetness.
• 20:04
  It's
• 20:04
  just
• 20:04
  warmth,
• 20:05
  you
• 20:05
  know,
• 20:06
  inner
• 20:06
  warmth.
• 20:07
  Like
• 20:07
  you
• 20:07
  have
• 20:07
  an
• 20:07
  inner
• 20:08
  heater
• 20:08
  inside
• 20:09
  you.
• 20:09
  You
• 20:10
  know,
• 20:11
  warmth
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  brings
• 20:13
  in
• 20:14
  delicacy
• 20:15
  and
• 20:15
  tenderness.
• 20:16
  So
• 20:16
  instead
• 20:17
  of
• 20:18
  bliss,
• 20:18
  it
• 20:19
  is
• 20:19
  tenderness.
• 20:20
  Tenderness
• 20:20
  can
• 20:21
  have
• 20:21
  bliss
• 20:21
  in
• 20:21
  it,
• 20:22
  but
• 20:22
  not
• 20:23
  necessarily.
• 20:23
  Usually
• 20:24
  tenderness
• 20:24
  is
• 20:25
  more
• 20:25
  the
• 20:25
  sensitivity.
• 20:26
  So
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  sensitivity
• 20:28
  is
• 20:29
  complete.
• 20:29
  It's
• 20:30
  absolute
• 20:31
  that
• 20:32
  you
• 20:32
  really
• 20:32
  feel
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  suffering
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  other
• 20:35
  as
• 20:35
  if
• 20:35
  it's
• 20:35
  yours.
• 20:36
  You
• 20:36
  feel
• 20:37
  the
• 20:37
  intimacies
• 20:38
  of
• 20:38
  it.
• 20:38
  And
• 20:39
  sometime
• 20:39
  I
• 20:39
  remember
• 20:40
  some
• 20:40
  students,
• 20:41
  when
• 20:41
  I
• 20:41
  feel
• 20:41
  their
• 20:42
  suffering,
• 20:42
  I
• 20:43
  could
• 20:43
  even.
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  get
• 20:45
  so
• 20:45
  intimate.
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  even
• 20:46
  see
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  situation
• 20:48
  from
• 20:48
  their
• 20:48
  childhood
• 20:49
  that
• 20:50
  made
• 20:51
  them
• 20:51
  suffer
• 20:51
  that
• 20:52
  way,
• 20:52
  which
• 20:52
  can
• 20:53
  help
• 20:53
  me
• 20:53
  guiding
• 20:53
  them
• 20:54
  through
• 20:54
  it.
• 20:56
  I
• 20:56
  love
• 20:56
  the
• 20:57
  sense
• 20:57
  of
• 20:58
  the
• 20:58
  warmth.
• 20:59
  Did
• 20:59
  compassion
• 21:00
  practice
• 21:01
  intensely
• 21:01
  in
• 21:01
  retreat
• 21:02
  for
• 21:02
  maybe
• 21:02
  a
• 21:02
  month
• 21:03
  or
• 21:03
  more.
• 21:03
  And
• 21:04
  I
• 21:04
  remember
• 21:04
  just
• 21:05
  after
• 21:05
  a
• 21:05
  couple
• 21:06
  of
• 21:06
  hours,
• 21:07
  after
• 21:07
  the
• 21:07
  first
• 21:08
  couple
• 21:08
  of
• 21:08
  sittings,
• 21:09
  a
• 21:09
  couple
• 21:09
  of
• 21:09
  hours,
• 21:10
  this
• 21:10
  thought
• 21:10
  arose.
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  spent
• 21:11
  my
• 21:11
  entire
• 21:12
  life
• 21:12
  misunderstanding
• 21:13
  compassion.
• 21:15
  I
• 21:15
  thought
• 21:15
  it
• 21:16
  was
• 21:16
  sympathy
• 21:17
  or
• 21:17
  pity.
• 21:17
  I
• 21:18
  had
• 21:18
  no
• 21:18
  way
• 21:19
  of
• 21:19
  differentiating.
• 21:20
  But
• 21:20
  the
• 21:21
  pity
• 21:22
  had
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  painful,
• 21:23
  aversive
• 21:23
  feel.
• 21:24
  Let's
• 21:24
  get
• 21:24
  rid
• 21:24
  of
• 21:25
  this
• 21:25
  so
• 21:25
  I
• 21:26
  don't
• 21:26
  have
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  feel
• 21:26
  it.
• 21:27
  As
• 21:27
  opposed
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  the.
• 21:28
  The
• 21:28
  compassion,
• 21:29
  which,
• 21:29
  as
• 21:29
  you
• 21:30
  said,
• 21:30
  the
• 21:30
  dominant
• 21:31
  feeling
• 21:31
  tone
• 21:32
  was
• 21:32
  just
• 21:32
  a
• 21:33
  beautiful
• 21:34
  warmth
• 21:35
  and
• 21:35
  care.
• 21:36
  Yeah,
• 21:37
  the
• 21:37
  softness
• 21:38
  and
• 21:39
  warmth
• 21:39
  and
• 21:41
  gentleness
• 21:41
  and
• 21:43
  tender.
• 21:43
  I
• 21:43
  call
• 21:43
  it
• 21:44
  tender
• 21:44
  heart.
• 21:45
  And
• 21:45
  now
• 21:45
  we're
• 21:45
  talking
• 21:46
  about
• 21:47
  the
• 21:47
  fruition
• 21:48
  of
• 21:49
  the
• 21:50
  union.
• 21:51
  Come
• 21:52
  back
• 21:52
  into
• 21:52
  the
• 21:52
  world
• 21:52
  with
• 21:53
  love
• 21:53
  and
• 21:53
  compassion
• 21:54
  and
• 21:55
  all
• 21:55
  the
• 21:55
  beautiful
• 21:56
  qualities.
• 21:56
  With
• 21:57
  fulfillment
• 21:57
  and
• 21:58
  delight
• 21:59
  and
• 21:59
  joy
• 21:59
  and
• 22:00
  all
• 22:00
  of
• 22:00
  that.
• 22:01
  And
• 22:01
  we
• 22:01
  can
• 22:02
  live
• 22:02
  our
• 22:02
  life
• 22:02
  like
• 22:03
  that
• 22:03
  because
• 22:04
  we
• 22:04
  are
• 22:04
  one
• 22:04
  with
• 22:05
  the
• 22:05
  beloved.
• 22:06
  So
• 22:06
  there's
• 22:06
  no
• 22:07
  more
• 22:07
  search,
• 22:08
  there's
• 22:08
  no
• 22:08
  more
• 22:09
  longing.
• 22:09
  For
• 22:09
  the
• 22:09
  beloved.
• 22:10
  The
• 22:10
  beloved
• 22:11
  is
• 22:11
  here.
• 22:12
  The
• 22:12
  beloved
• 22:13
  has
• 22:13
  taken
• 22:13
  its
• 22:14
  place,
• 22:15
  fills
• 22:15
  the
• 22:16
  heart.
• 22:16
  The
• 22:16
  heart.
• 22:17
  You
• 22:17
  know,
• 22:17
  the
• 22:17
  way
• 22:17
  I
• 22:18
  say
• 22:18
  it
• 22:18
  in
• 22:18
  my
• 22:19
  experience,
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  remember
• 22:20
  earlier.
• 22:20
  Oh,
• 22:21
  that
• 22:22
  was
• 22:22
  there
• 22:22
  is
• 22:23
  there
• 22:23
  for
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  beloved.
• 22:24
  It's
• 22:24
  not
• 22:24
  for
• 22:25
  something
• 22:25
  else.
• 22:26
  I
• 22:26
  have
• 22:27
  put
• 22:27
  all
• 22:27
  these
• 22:28
  other
• 22:28
  things
• 22:29
  in
• 22:29
  it.
• 22:30
  But
• 22:30
  it's
• 22:30
  really
• 22:31
  the
• 22:32
  seat
• 22:32
  of
• 22:32
  the
• 22:32
  beloved.
• 22:34
  The
• 22:34
  throne
• 22:34
  of
• 22:34
  the
• 22:35
  beloved.
• 22:35
  And
• 22:35
  then
• 22:36
  when
• 22:36
  the
• 22:36
  beloved
• 22:37
  arose
• 22:37
  in
• 22:37
  the
• 22:37
  heart
• 22:38
  is
• 22:38
  very
• 22:38
  different
• 22:39
  than
• 22:39
  the
• 22:40
  other
• 22:40
  ways
• 22:40
  I
• 22:41
  experience.
• 22:41
  The
• 22:41
  absolute
• 22:43
  empty
• 22:44
  clarity
• 22:45
  when
• 22:45
  it
• 22:46
  appears
• 22:46
  in
• 22:46
  the
• 22:46
  heart.
• 22:47
  It's
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  very
• 22:48
  different
• 22:48
  thing.
• 22:49
  It
• 22:49
  has
• 22:49
  more
• 22:51
  the
• 22:51
  fireworks
• 22:52
  and
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  ecstasy
• 22:54
  and
• 22:55
  the.
• 22:56
  The
• 22:56
  sort
• 22:57
  of
• 22:57
  overwhelming
• 22:58
  kind
• 22:58
  of
• 22:59
  delight
• 23:00
  and
• 23:00
  satisfaction
• 23:01
  of
• 23:02
  meeting
• 23:02
  the.
• 23:03
  But
• 23:04
  you
• 23:04
  have
• 23:04
  love
• 23:05
  more
• 23:05
  than
• 23:05
  anything
• 23:05
  else.
• 23:06
  I
• 23:06
  mean,
• 23:06
  it
• 23:06
  is
• 23:06
  a
• 23:06
  different
• 23:08
  order,
• 23:08
  many
• 23:09
  orders
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  magnitude
• 23:10
  of
• 23:11
  what
• 23:12
  we
• 23:12
  call
• 23:12
  enjoyment
• 23:13
  of
• 23:13
  love.
• 23:14
  Like
• 23:14
  when
• 23:14
  you.
• 23:16
  Somebody
• 23:16
  you
• 23:16
  love
• 23:17
  dearly
• 23:18
  and
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  joy
• 23:19
  you
• 23:19
  have
• 23:20
  and
• 23:20
  the
• 23:20
  tender.
• 23:21
  This
• 23:21
  is
• 23:21
  like
• 23:22
  that,
• 23:22
  but
• 23:22
  orders
• 23:23
  of
• 23:23
  magnitude
• 23:24
  and
• 23:24
  depth
• 23:25
  and
• 23:25
  fullness
• 23:26
  and
• 23:26
  completeness.
• 23:27
  And
• 23:28
  that
• 23:28
  is
• 23:28
  what
• 23:29
  the
• 23:30
  lover
• 23:30
  brings
• 23:31
  to
• 23:31
  the
• 23:31
  world.
• 23:32
  You
• 23:32
  don't
• 23:33
  just
• 23:33
  love
• 23:33
  the
• 23:34
  beloved
• 23:34
  and
• 23:34
  stay
• 23:35
  in
• 23:35
  your
• 23:35
  house,
• 23:35
  in
• 23:36
  your
• 23:36
  room.
• 23:36
  No,
• 23:36
  you
• 23:37
  come
• 23:37
  out
• 23:37
  into
• 23:37
  the
• 23:38
  world
• 23:38
  and
• 23:38
  live
• 23:39
  your
• 23:39
  life.
• 23:40
  And
• 23:40
  by
• 23:41
  living
• 23:42
  your
• 23:42
  life,
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  know,
• 23:44
  my
• 23:44
  work,
• 23:44
  I
• 23:45
  help
• 23:45
  people
• 23:45
  to
• 23:46
  learn
• 23:46
  about
• 23:46
  themselves.
• 23:47
  Why?
• 23:48
  For
• 23:48
  them
• 23:48
  individual,
• 23:49
  but
• 23:49
  also
• 23:50
  for
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  absolute,
• 23:51
  for
• 23:51
  the
• 23:51
  beloved.
• 23:52
  Because
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  beloved
• 23:53
  get
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  experience
• 23:54
  itself
• 23:55
  through
• 23:55
  them
• 23:55
  too.
• 23:57
  It
• 23:57
  is
• 23:58
  loving
• 23:58
  the
• 23:58
  beloved.
• 23:59
  I
• 24:00
  serve
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  beloved.
• 24:01
  And
• 24:01
  my
• 24:02
  teaching
• 24:02
  is
• 24:02
  a
• 24:03
  service
• 24:03
  for
• 24:03
  the
• 24:03
  beloved.
• 24:05
  You
• 24:06
  said
• 24:06
  so
• 24:07
  beautifully,
• 24:07
  Hameed,
• 24:08
  that
• 24:09
  the
• 24:09
  ground
• 24:09
  of
• 24:10
  that
• 24:10
  service
• 24:11
  is
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  allow
• 24:12
  the
• 24:12
  beloved
• 24:13
  to
• 24:14
  express
• 24:15
  and
• 24:15
  recognize
• 24:16
  and
• 24:16
  play
• 24:17
  as
• 24:17
  itself.
• 24:18
  Yeah,
• 24:18
  to
• 24:19
  live
• 24:21
  life
• 24:21
  like
• 24:22
  what's
• 24:22
  the
• 24:22
  world
• 24:23
  for?
• 24:24
  I
• 24:24
  mean,
• 24:26
  Christian
• 24:26
  or
• 24:27
  Jewish
• 24:27
  study.
• 24:28
  Why
• 24:28
  did
• 24:28
  God
• 24:28
  create
• 24:29
  the
• 24:29
  world?
• 24:31
  You
• 24:32
  know,
• 24:34
  I
• 24:34
  don't
• 24:34
  know
• 24:35
  if
• 24:35
  they
• 24:35
  give
• 24:35
  reasons
• 24:36
  for
• 24:36
  it,
• 24:36
  you
• 24:36
  know,
• 24:37
  but
• 24:38
  one
• 24:38
  way
• 24:38
  of
• 24:38
  seeing
• 24:39
  is
• 24:39
  that
• 24:39
  the
• 24:39
  world
• 24:40
  is
• 24:40
  a
• 24:41
  way
• 24:42
  for
• 24:42
  the
• 24:42
  inner
• 24:43
  truth
• 24:43
  to
• 24:44
  reveal
• 24:44
  its
• 24:45
  potentialities,
• 24:47
  for
• 24:47
  it
• 24:47
  to
• 24:47
  behold
• 24:48
  those
• 24:48
  potentialities
• 24:50
  and
• 24:50
  to
• 24:50
  enjoy
• 24:51
  them
• 24:52
  through
• 24:52
  the
• 24:52
  individuals
• 24:53
  who
• 24:53
  have
• 24:54
  that
• 24:54
  experience
• 24:55
  and
• 24:56
  feels
• 24:56
  compassion
• 24:57
  for
• 24:57
  the
• 24:57
  one
• 24:57
  who
• 24:58
  don't
• 24:58
  have
• 24:58
  it.
• 24:59
  Because
• 24:59
  they're
• 25:00
  suffering,
• 25:01
  they're
• 25:01
  not
• 25:02
  finding
• 25:02
  the
• 25:03
  true
• 25:04
  fulfillment.
• 25:05
  Like,
• 25:05
  you
• 25:06
  know,
• 25:06
  I
• 25:06
  can
• 25:06
  feel
• 25:07
  compassion
• 25:08
  for
• 25:08
  Hitler,
• 25:08
  for
• 25:09
  instance.
• 25:09
  You
• 25:10
  know,
• 25:10
  he
• 25:10
  full
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  hatred
• 25:11
  and
• 25:12
  prejudice,
• 25:12
  all
• 25:12
  of
• 25:13
  that,
• 25:13
  but
• 25:13
  all
• 25:14
  of
• 25:14
  it
• 25:14
  because
• 25:14
  he's
• 25:15
  disconnected
• 25:16
  deeper
• 25:17
  inside.
• 25:18
  He's
• 25:18
  in
• 25:18
  pain.
• 25:19
  He
• 25:20
  was
• 25:20
  in
• 25:20
  pain,
• 25:21
  but
• 25:21
  now
• 25:22
  he
• 25:22
  was
• 25:22
  in
• 25:23
  total
• 25:23
  pain
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  emptiness
• 25:24
  and
• 25:25
  meaninglessness.
• 25:27
  Because
• 25:27
  that's
• 25:28
  normal
• 25:28
  for
• 25:29
  anybody
• 25:29
  who
• 25:30
  is
• 25:30
  not
• 25:31
  in
• 25:31
  touch
• 25:32
  with
• 25:32
  the
• 25:32
  true
• 25:33
  love
• 25:33
  and
• 25:33
  compassion.
• 25:34
  They're
• 25:34
  disconnected
• 25:35
  and
• 25:35
  they're
• 25:36
  suffering
• 25:36
  deep
• 25:37
  inside.
• 25:38
  And
• 25:39
  the
• 25:39
  worse
• 25:39
  they
• 25:40
  are,
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  more
• 25:41
  inner
• 25:41
  suffering
• 25:42
  there
• 25:42
  is
• 25:42
  actually.
• 25:43
  And
• 25:44
  they
• 25:44
  might
• 25:44
  be
• 25:44
  plucking
• 25:45
  it,
• 25:45
  blocking
• 25:46
  it
• 25:46
  they're
• 25:46
  not
• 25:46
  necessarily
• 25:47
  feeling
• 25:47
  it,
• 25:47
  but
• 25:48
  they
• 25:48
  might
• 25:48
  be
• 25:48
  feeling
• 25:49
  it
• 25:49
  at
• 25:49
  some
• 25:49
  point.
• 25:50
  That
• 25:50
  feels
• 25:50
  like
• 25:51
  such
• 25:51
  an
• 25:51
  important
• 25:52
  reframe
• 25:53
  or
• 25:53
  perspective.
• 25:54
  Which
• 25:55
  completely
• 25:55
  reframes
• 25:56
  the
• 25:56
  understanding
• 25:57
  of
• 25:58
  aggression
• 25:58
  and
• 25:59
  hatred
• 26:00
  and
• 26:01
  all
• 26:01
  the
• 26:01
  reactions,
• 26:02
  difficult
• 26:03
  ways
• 26:04
  people
• 26:04
  are
• 26:05
  that
• 26:06
  we
• 26:06
  naturally
• 26:07
  tend
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  judge
• 26:07
  and
• 26:08
  contemn.
• 26:09
  No,
• 26:09
  we
• 26:09
  need
• 26:09
  to
• 26:09
  feel
• 26:10
  compassion
• 26:10
  for
• 26:11
  them.
• 26:12
  The
• 26:12
  more
• 26:12
  the
• 26:12
  hate
• 26:13
  and
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  more
• 26:13
  aggression,
• 26:14
  the
• 26:14
  more
• 26:15
  inner
• 26:15
  disconnection.
• 26:17
  Because
• 26:18
  our
• 26:18
  nature
• 26:18
  is
• 26:19
  lovingly
• 26:19
  compassionate.
• 26:21
  If
• 26:21
  they
• 26:21
  felt
• 26:22
  themselves,
• 26:22
  if
• 26:22
  they
• 26:22
  were
• 26:23
  really
• 26:23
  truly
• 26:23
  themselves,
• 26:24
  they'll
• 26:24
  be
• 26:24
  compassionate,
• 26:25
  loving
• 26:25
  and
• 26:26
  considerate
• 26:26
  and
• 26:26
  all
• 26:27
  of
• 26:27
  that.
• 26:27
  They
• 26:28
  won't
• 26:28
  be
• 26:28
  aggressive
• 26:29
  and
• 26:29
  hateful
• 26:29
  and
• 26:30
  cruel
• 26:31
  and
• 26:31
  all
• 26:31
  of
• 26:31
  that.
• 26:32
  That's
• 26:33
  distortion
• 26:34
  of
• 26:34
  what
• 26:34
  they
• 26:35
  are,
• 26:36
  regardless
• 26:36
  what
• 26:37
  they
• 26:37
  think
• 26:37
  and
• 26:37
  believe.
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  mean,
• 26:39
  that's
• 26:40
  why,
• 26:41
  you
• 26:41
  know,
• 26:41
  I
• 26:42
  would
• 26:42
  say
• 26:42
  he
• 26:42
  has
• 26:42
  compassion
• 26:43
  for
• 26:43
  everybody.
• 26:44
  He
• 26:44
  doesn't
• 26:44
  just
• 26:44
  have
• 26:44
  compassion
• 26:45
  for
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  good
• 26:46
  people.
• 26:47
  That's
• 26:48
  good
• 26:48
  to
• 26:48
  know.
• 26:48
  Hameed,
• 26:49
  you
• 26:49
  mentioned
• 26:49
  earlier.
• 26:50
  I
• 26:50
  want
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  go
• 26:50
  back
• 26:50
  to
• 26:50
  it
• 26:51
  that
• 26:51
  the
• 26:51
  searing
• 26:52
  clarity.
• 26:53
  And
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  believe
• 26:55
  you
• 26:55
  talk
• 26:55
  about
• 26:55
  in
• 26:55
  the
• 26:55
  book
• 26:56
  how
• 26:57
  this
• 26:57
  love
• 26:58
  is
• 26:58
  not
• 26:58
  just,
• 26:58
  you
• 26:59
  know,
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  connective,
• 27:00
  warm
• 27:01
  tenderness
• 27:01
  and
• 27:02
  intimacy.
• 27:02
  There's
• 27:03
  also
• 27:03
  this
• 27:04
  incredible
• 27:05
  clarity
• 27:06
  that
• 27:06
  it
• 27:06
  brings.
• 27:07
  That
• 27:07
  you
• 27:07
  can
• 27:08
  just
• 27:08
  see
• 27:09
  things
• 27:10
  as
• 27:10
  they
• 27:10
  are,
• 27:11
  inside
• 27:11
  and
• 27:11
  out.
• 27:12
  There's
• 27:12
  just
• 27:12
  a
• 27:12
  clarity
• 27:13
  there.
• 27:14
  Yes,
• 27:14
  because
• 27:15
  the
• 27:15
  inner
• 27:16
  nature
• 27:16
  is
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  nature
• 27:17
  of
• 27:18
  awareness.
• 27:19
  So
• 27:19
  awareness
• 27:19
  becomes
• 27:20
  pure,
• 27:20
  purified,
• 27:21
  clear,
• 27:22
  transparent.
• 27:23
  You
• 27:23
  know,
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  awareness
• 27:25
  is
• 27:25
  not
• 27:25
  just
• 27:26
  perception
• 27:27
  of
• 27:27
  things.
• 27:28
  You
• 27:28
  see
• 27:28
  awareness
• 27:29
  and
• 27:29
  frog
• 27:30
  as
• 27:30
  a
• 27:30
  transparent
• 27:31
  medium
• 27:32
  that
• 27:33
  makes
• 27:34
  awareness
• 27:35
  of
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  world
• 27:35
  possible.
• 27:36
  So
• 27:37
  the
• 27:37
  beloved,
• 27:38
  the
• 27:38
  inner
• 27:38
  beloved,
• 27:39
  its
• 27:39
  emptiness
• 27:40
  sort
• 27:40
  of
• 27:40
  manifests
• 27:42
  the
• 27:42
  world
• 27:43
  by
• 27:43
  becoming
• 27:44
  aware.
• 27:46
  Awareness
• 27:47
  of
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  world
• 27:48
  and
• 27:48
  the
• 27:48
  creation
• 27:49
  of
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  world
• 27:49
  are
• 27:49
  simultaneous.
• 27:51
  It's
• 27:51
  called
• 27:51
  witnessing.
• 27:53
  Beloved
• 27:53
  witnesses
• 27:55
  its
• 27:55
  creation.
• 27:56
  So
• 27:57
  the
• 27:57
  awareness
• 27:57
  and
• 27:58
  the
• 27:58
  creation
• 27:59
  happen
• 27:59
  at
• 27:59
  the
• 27:59
  same
• 27:59
  time.
• 28:00
  Because
• 28:01
  awareness
• 28:01
  has
• 28:01
  to
• 28:01
  be
• 28:02
  aware
• 28:02
  of
• 28:02
  something.
• 28:03
  If
• 28:03
  there's
• 28:04
  nothing
• 28:04
  to
• 28:04
  be
• 28:04
  aware
• 28:04
  of,
• 28:04
  there's
• 28:05
  cessation.
• 28:07
  I
• 28:07
  mean,
• 28:07
  it
• 28:08
  feels
• 28:08
  like
• 28:08
  it
• 28:08
  would
• 28:08
  be
• 28:09
  important
• 28:09
  to
• 28:09
  just.
• 28:10
  To
• 28:10
  go
• 28:10
  back
• 28:11
  to
• 28:12
  fill
• 28:13
  out
• 28:13
  a
• 28:13
  little
• 28:13
  more
• 28:13
  the
• 28:14
  experience
• 28:15
  of
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  realization
• 28:16
  of
• 28:17
  the
• 28:17
  beloved.
• 28:17
  Because
• 28:18
  you
• 28:20
  described
• 28:20
  it
• 28:21
  as
• 28:22
  these
• 28:22
  incredible
• 28:23
  fireworks.
• 28:24
  Fireworks.
• 28:25
  Metaphor.
• 28:26
  But
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  also
• 28:29
  speak
• 28:29
  in
• 28:29
  this
• 28:29
  book
• 28:30
  about
• 28:30
  a
• 28:30
  kind
• 28:30
  of
• 28:31
  almost
• 28:32
  unique
• 28:33
  description
• 28:34
  of
• 28:34
  the
• 28:34
  beloved
• 28:35
  as
• 28:35
  this.
• 28:36
  Our
• 28:37
  words
• 28:37
  fail,
• 28:37
  of
• 28:38
  course,
• 28:38
  but
• 28:39
  this
• 28:39
  profound
• 28:41
  emptiness
• 28:42
  and
• 28:43
  darkness.
• 28:44
  Yeah,
• 28:45
  that's
• 28:46
  the
• 28:46
  nature
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  the
• 28:47
  inner
• 28:47
  cavity.
• 28:48
  The
• 28:49
  dark
• 28:50
  cavity
• 28:50
  is
• 28:51
  dark
• 28:51
  cavity.
• 28:52
  The
• 28:52
  beginning
• 28:52
  of
• 28:52
  perceiving
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  emptiness.
• 28:55
  And
• 28:56
  so
• 28:56
  empty.
• 28:56
  It's
• 28:57
  dark
• 28:58
  because
• 28:58
  there's
• 28:58
  no
• 28:59
  light.
• 28:59
  There's
• 29:00
  empty
• 29:00
  of
• 29:00
  light.
• 29:01
  But
• 29:02
  can
• 29:02
  that
• 29:02
  be
• 29:02
  seen
• 29:02
  also
• 29:02
  as
• 29:03
  the
• 29:03
  source
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  all
• 29:04
  things?
• 29:05
  That
• 29:05
  darkness?
• 29:06
  It
• 29:06
  is.
• 29:08
  I
• 29:08
  mean,
• 29:09
  it's
• 29:09
  dark.
• 29:09
  It's
• 29:10
  not
• 29:10
  dark
• 29:10
  in
• 29:11
  the
• 29:11
  sense
• 29:12
  there's
• 29:12
  no
• 29:13
  light
• 29:13
  in
• 29:13
  it.
• 29:14
  No
• 29:14
  light
• 29:15
  hasn't
• 29:15
  happened
• 29:15
  yet.
• 29:16
  It's
• 29:17
  before
• 29:17
  pre
• 29:18
  light.
• 29:19
  So
• 29:19
  that's
• 29:20
  why
• 29:21
  awareness
• 29:21
  is
• 29:22
  its
• 29:22
  own
• 29:22
  luminosity.
• 29:25
  This
• 29:26
  darkness
• 29:26
  so
• 29:27
  dark
• 29:28
  it
• 29:29
  become
• 29:29
  luminous,
• 29:31
  so
• 29:31
  dark
• 29:32
  it
• 29:32
  radiates.
• 29:33
  And
• 29:33
  that
• 29:34
  radiation
• 29:35
  is
• 29:36
  the
• 29:36
  essence
• 29:37
  of
• 29:37
  awareness.
• 29:39
  I
• 29:40
  want
• 29:40
  to
• 29:40
  note.
• 29:41
  Well,
• 29:41
  first
• 29:41
  off.
• 29:42
  Thank
• 29:42
  you.
• 29:42
  I
• 29:42
  mean,
• 29:42
  that
• 29:43
  fills
• 29:43
  out
• 29:46
  the
• 29:47
  description
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  the
• 29:48
  realization
• 29:48
  of
• 29:48
  the
• 29:49
  blood.
• 29:49
  And
• 29:50
  I
• 29:50
  just
• 29:50
  want
• 29:50
  to
• 29:51
  note
• 29:51
  kind
• 29:51
  of
• 29:52
  the
• 29:53
  feeling,
• 29:53
  tone
• 29:53
  of
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  conversation
• 29:55
  has
• 29:55
  just
• 29:56
  become.
• 29:57
  Throughout
• 29:57
  our
• 29:57
  time
• 29:58
  here
• 29:58
  today.
• 29:58
  It
• 29:59
  feels
• 29:59
  like
• 29:59
  it's
• 29:59
  just
• 29:59
  become
• 30:00
  increasingly
• 30:02
  tender
• 30:02
  and
• 30:04
  touched.
• 30:04
  And
• 30:04
  I
• 30:05
  almost
• 30:05
  find.
• 30:05
  I
• 30:05
  find
• 30:06
  myself
• 30:06
  a
• 30:06
  little
• 30:06
  teary
• 30:08
  somehow.
• 30:09
  I
• 30:09
  know
• 30:10
  you
• 30:10
  talk
• 30:10
  about
• 30:11
  transmission.
• 30:11
  You
• 30:12
  transmit
• 30:13
  through
• 30:14
  entering,
• 30:14
  experiencing
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  states
• 30:16
  you're
• 30:17
  describing
• 30:17
  and
• 30:17
  teaching
• 30:18
  from.
• 30:18
  And
• 30:19
  that's
• 30:19
  how
• 30:19
  transmission
• 30:20
  occurs.
• 30:20
  And
• 30:21
  it
• 30:21
  feels
• 30:21
  like
• 30:22
  that's
• 30:22
  been
• 30:23
  happening
• 30:23
  and
• 30:23
  probably
• 30:24
  doubtless
• 30:24
  touching
• 30:25
  all
• 30:26
  our
• 30:26
  listeners
• 30:26
  too.
• 30:27
  Yeah.
• 30:27
  And
• 30:28
  I
• 30:28
  appreciate
• 30:29
  your
• 30:29
  questions
• 30:30
  because
• 30:30
  bring
• 30:31
  it
• 30:31
  out.
• 30:32
  Respond
• 30:33
  to
• 30:33
  your
• 30:33
  questioning
• 30:34
  being
• 30:35
  manifest
• 30:36
  response.
• 30:38
  Not
• 30:38
  just
• 30:39
  me
• 30:39
  as
• 30:39
  an
• 30:39
  individual,
• 30:40
  but
• 30:40
  the
• 30:41
  inner
• 30:41
  beloved
• 30:42
  itself.
• 30:43
  Yeah,
• 30:44
  it
• 30:44
  does
• 30:44
  feel
• 30:45
  like
• 30:45
  it.
• 30:46
  Like
• 30:46
  that
• 30:46
  is
• 30:46
  present
• 30:47
  and
• 30:48
  certainly
• 30:48
  touching
• 30:49
  us
• 30:50
  and
• 30:50
  hopefully
• 30:51
  everyone
• 30:51
  who's
• 30:52
  listening
• 30:52
  to.
• 30:53
  I
• 30:54
  mean,
• 30:54
  there's.
• 30:55
  There's
• 30:57
  more
• 30:57
  we
• 30:58
  could
• 30:58
  dive
• 30:59
  into
• 31:00
  as
• 31:00
  we're
• 31:01
  approaching
• 31:01
  our
• 31:02
  time.
• 31:03
  Is
• 31:03
  there
• 31:03
  anything
• 31:03
  more
• 31:04
  you
• 31:04
  would
• 31:04
  like
• 31:04
  to
• 31:05
  say?
• 31:05
  I
• 31:06
  think.
• 31:06
  And
• 31:06
  this
• 31:07
  brings
• 31:07
  us
• 31:07
  to
• 31:07
  the
• 31:07
  question
• 31:08
  that
• 31:09
  of
• 31:09
  the
• 31:10
  book,
• 31:10
  the
• 31:10
  inner
• 31:10
  beloved
• 31:12
  that
• 31:12
  we're
• 31:12
  discussing.
• 31:14
  What's
• 31:15
  the
• 31:15
  content
• 31:15
  in
• 31:15
  that
• 31:16
  book?
• 31:17
  There's
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  lot
• 31:17
  more
• 31:18
  in
• 31:18
  the
• 31:18
  book,
• 31:20
  more
• 31:20
  details,
• 31:21
  more
• 31:21
  facets
• 31:22
  that
• 31:22
  we
• 31:22
  haven't
• 31:23
  discussed.
• 31:24
  So
• 31:24
  this
• 31:24
  is
• 31:24
  for
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  listener
• 31:26
  to
• 31:26
  read
• 31:26
  the
• 31:27
  book.
• 31:27
  And
• 31:27
  there's
• 31:28
  conversations
• 31:28
  where
• 31:28
  you're
• 31:29
  working
• 31:29
  with
• 31:29
  your
• 31:29
  students
• 31:30
  that
• 31:30
  are
• 31:31
  just
• 31:31
  very
• 31:32
  powerful,
• 31:32
  very
• 31:32
  illuminating.
• 31:33
  Yeah,
• 31:34
  yeah.
• 31:34
  So
• 31:34
  the
• 31:34
  book
• 31:35
  has
• 31:35
  those
• 31:35
  conversations.
• 31:36
  Students
• 31:37
  get
• 31:37
  to
• 31:37
  ask
• 31:38
  and
• 31:38
  make
• 31:39
  comments
• 31:39
  and
• 31:40
  discussions.
• 31:41
  And
• 31:42
  there
• 31:42
  are
• 31:42
  exercises
• 31:43
  also
• 31:43
  that
• 31:44
  sort
• 31:44
  of
• 31:44
  contemplation
• 31:45
  and
• 31:46
  exploration
• 31:47
  that
• 31:47
  helps
• 31:48
  us
• 31:48
  deal
• 31:48
  with
• 31:49
  some.
• 31:49
  What's
• 31:50
  in
• 31:50
  the
• 31:50
  way.
• 31:51
  But
• 31:51
  the
• 31:51
  idea,
• 31:52
  what
• 31:52
  I'm
• 31:53
  mentioning
• 31:53
  the
• 31:53
  book
• 31:54
  is
• 31:54
  because
• 31:54
  there
• 31:54
  are
• 31:55
  more
• 31:55
  things
• 31:55
  we
• 31:55
  haven't
• 31:55
  discussed.
• 31:56
  We
• 31:56
  can't
• 31:57
  discuss
• 31:57
  it
• 31:57
  all.
• 31:58
  It's
• 31:58
  a
• 31:58
  lot,
• 31:58
  you
• 31:59
  know,
• 32:00
  details.
• 32:00
  Are
• 32:00
  we
• 32:00
  discussing
• 32:01
  the
• 32:01
  highlights?
• 32:02
  You
• 32:03
  know,
• 32:03
  some
• 32:03
  of
• 32:03
  the
• 32:04
  highlights?
• 32:04
  Well,
• 32:05
  I
• 32:05
  feel
• 32:05
  like
• 32:05
  my
• 32:05
  cup
• 32:05
  is
• 32:06
  very
• 32:06
  full.
• 32:06
  I
• 32:07
  mean,
• 32:07
  and
• 32:07
  it's
• 32:07
  overflowing.
• 32:08
  So
• 32:09
  you
• 32:09
  have,
• 32:10
  you
• 32:10
  know,
• 32:10
  you
• 32:10
  have
• 32:10
  poured
• 32:11
  out.
• 32:11
  Thank
• 32:12
  you.
• 32:13
  That's
• 32:13
  good.
• 32:13
  Hopefully
• 32:14
  that
• 32:15
  the
• 32:16
  listener
• 32:17
  will
• 32:17
  also
• 32:17
  feel
• 32:18
  that
• 32:18
  way
• 32:18
  too.
• 32:19
  Yeah.
• 32:20
  And
• 32:20
  I
• 32:20
  want
• 32:20
  to.
• 32:20
  I
• 32:21
  want
• 32:21
  to
• 32:21
  echo
• 32:21
  what
• 32:21
  you're
• 32:22
  saying.
• 32:22
  And
• 32:23
  I
• 32:23
  want
• 32:23
  people
• 32:23
  to
• 32:23
  know
• 32:24
  that
• 32:24
  in
• 32:24
  their
• 32:25
  essence,
• 32:25
  their
• 32:25
  pure
• 32:26
  love,
• 32:27
  their
• 32:28
  deepest
• 32:28
  essence,
• 32:28
  regardless
• 32:29
  what
• 32:29
  they
• 32:30
  think
• 32:30
  and
• 32:30
  feel,
• 32:30
  whatever,
• 32:31
  whether
• 32:32
  they're
• 32:32
  suffering
• 32:32
  or
• 32:33
  not,
• 32:34
  love
• 32:35
  is
• 32:36
  so
• 32:36
  intimately
• 32:37
  what
• 32:37
  we
• 32:37
  are.
• 32:39
  Beautiful.
• 32:40
  So
• 32:40
  I
• 32:40
  have
• 32:40
  on
• 32:41
  Seize
• 32:41
  the
• 32:41
  book.
• 32:41
  The
• 32:42
  first
• 32:42
  book
• 32:42
  basically
• 32:43
  is
• 32:43
  a
• 32:43
  preparation
• 32:44
  by
• 32:44
  discussing
• 32:45
  different
• 32:46
  ways
• 32:46
  we
• 32:46
  experience
• 32:47
  love.
• 32:47
  You
• 32:48
  see,
• 32:49
  that's
• 32:49
  the
• 32:49
  first
• 32:49
  book.
• 32:50
  There's
• 32:51
  really
• 32:51
  different
• 32:51
  ways
• 32:52
  we
• 32:52
  experience
• 32:52
  love
• 32:53
  that
• 32:53
  we
• 32:54
  can
• 32:54
  relate
• 32:54
  our
• 32:55
  human
• 32:55
  life.
• 32:57
  And
• 32:57
  then
• 32:57
  the
• 32:57
  second
• 32:58
  book
• 32:58
  takes
• 32:59
  us
• 32:59
  to
• 32:59
  a
• 33:00
  larger
• 33:00
  love,
• 33:00
  what
• 33:01
  I
• 33:01
  call
• 33:01
  nondual
• 33:01
  love.
• 33:02
  When
• 33:02
  your
• 33:02
  love
• 33:02
  becomes
• 33:03
  universal,
• 33:04
  not
• 33:04
  just,
• 33:04
  you
• 33:05
  know,
• 33:05
  individual
• 33:06
  love
• 33:07
  and
• 33:07
  that
• 33:08
  then
• 33:08
  take
• 33:08
  it
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  the
• 33:09
  third
• 33:09
  book,
• 33:11
  that
• 33:11
  where
• 33:12
  becomes
• 33:13
  the
• 33:13
  path
• 33:13
  of
• 33:14
  love.
• 33:14
  Not
• 33:14
  just
• 33:15
  love,
• 33:15
  the
• 33:16
  path
• 33:16
  of
• 33:16
  love
• 33:17
  where
• 33:17
  love
• 33:18
  takes
• 33:18
  us
• 33:19
  if
• 33:19
  we
• 33:19
  really
• 33:20
  engage
• 33:20
  the
• 33:20
  heart.
• 33:21
  And
• 33:21
  that
• 33:21
  tells
• 33:22
  us
• 33:22
  that
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  heart
• 33:22
  is
• 33:23
  an
• 33:23
  important
• 33:23
  part
• 33:24
  of
• 33:24
  the
• 33:24
  consciousness
• 33:25
  routine.
• 33:26
  Many
• 33:26
  don't
• 33:27
  mention
• 33:27
  the
• 33:27
  heart.
• 33:28
  You
• 33:28
  know,
• 33:30
  they
• 33:31
  must
• 33:31
  have
• 33:31
  experienced
• 33:32
  heart.
• 33:32
  I
• 33:32
  mean,
• 33:32
  it
• 33:33
  can't
• 33:33
  be
• 33:33
  realized
• 33:34
  without
• 33:34
  having
• 33:34
  heart.
• 33:35
  Truly
• 33:36
  has
• 33:37
  heart,
• 33:37
  has
• 33:37
  love,
• 33:38
  has
• 33:38
  compassion
• 33:38
  in
• 33:39
  it.
• 33:39
  You
• 33:40
  know,
• 33:41
  it's
• 33:41
  inherent
• 33:42
  to
• 33:42
  our
• 33:42
  true
• 33:42
  nature
• 33:43
  because
• 33:43
  compassion
• 33:44
  and
• 33:44
  love
• 33:45
  and
• 33:45
  goodness
• 33:46
  and
• 33:46
  generosity,
• 33:48
  they're
• 33:48
  inherent
• 33:49
  to
• 33:49
  our
• 33:49
  nature,
• 33:50
  to
• 33:50
  our
• 33:50
  spiritual
• 33:51
  nature.
• 33:51
  They're
• 33:52
  not.
• 33:53
  It's
• 33:53
  not
• 33:54
  like
• 33:54
  something
• 33:54
  we
• 33:55
  create
• 33:55
  or
• 33:56
  something
• 33:56
  we
• 33:57
  learn.
• 33:57
  No,
• 33:58
  we
• 33:58
  were
• 33:59
  born
• 33:59
  with
• 33:59
  it.
• 34:01
  We
• 34:01
  get
• 34:02
  blocked
• 34:02
  from
• 34:02
  it
• 34:03
  because
• 34:03
  of
• 34:04
  all
• 34:04
  things
• 34:04
  that
• 34:04
  happen
• 34:05
  to
• 34:05
  us
• 34:05
  have
• 34:05
  become
• 34:05
  obstruction.
• 34:06
  But
• 34:07
  as
• 34:07
  we
• 34:07
  open
• 34:07
  up,
• 34:08
  that's
• 34:08
  what
• 34:08
  we
• 34:08
  find.
• 34:11
  Well,
• 34:12
  this
• 34:12
  is
• 34:12
  overwhelmingly
• 34:13
  good
• 34:13
  news.
• 34:13
  And
• 34:14
  I
• 34:14
  think
• 34:14
  the
• 34:14
  original
• 34:14
  meaning
• 34:15
  of
• 34:15
  the
• 34:16
  gospel
• 34:16
  was
• 34:16
  good
• 34:16
  news.
• 34:17
  I
• 34:17
  mean,
• 34:17
  this
• 34:17
  is
• 34:17
  really,
• 34:18
  really
• 34:18
  essential
• 34:19
  good
• 34:19
  news.
• 34:20
  Yeah,
• 34:21
  this
• 34:22
  is
• 34:22
  a
• 34:22
  possibility,
• 34:23
  potential
• 34:24
  of
• 34:24
  humanity
• 34:25
  that
• 34:25
  we,
• 34:25
  humanity
• 34:26
  as
• 34:26
  a
• 34:26
  whole,
• 34:27
  can
• 34:28
  move
• 34:28
  more
• 34:28
  toward
• 34:29
  recognizing
• 34:29
  its
• 34:30
  nature,
• 34:30
  the
• 34:31
  nature
• 34:31
  that
• 34:31
  makes
• 34:32
  it
• 34:32
  human.
• 34:33
  You
• 34:33
  can't.
• 34:33
  I
• 34:33
  mean,
• 34:33
  the
• 34:34
  Sufis
• 34:34
  says
• 34:35
  what
• 34:35
  make
• 34:35
  humans
• 34:36
  differ
• 34:36
  from
• 34:37
  animals
• 34:37
  is
• 34:37
  that
• 34:37
  they
• 34:37
  have
• 34:38
  heart.
• 34:38
  They
• 34:39
  don't
• 34:39
  say
• 34:39
  it
• 34:39
  has
• 34:39
  mind.
• 34:41
  It
• 34:41
  says
• 34:41
  the
• 34:42
  heart
• 34:42
  is
• 34:42
  what
• 34:42
  differentiates
• 34:43
  us
• 34:43
  from
• 34:44
  the
• 34:44
  animal.
• 34:45
  The
• 34:46
  animal
• 34:46
  wants
• 34:46
  to
• 34:47
  survive,
• 34:50
  the
• 34:50
  human
• 34:51
  gives,
• 34:52
  not
• 34:53
  just
• 34:53
  survives.
• 34:56
  And
• 34:56
  I
• 34:56
  want
• 34:56
  to
• 34:56
  emphasize
• 34:57
  what
• 34:57
  you
• 34:57
  were
• 34:58
  saying
• 34:58
  about
• 34:58
  the
• 34:59
  importance
• 35:00
  of
• 35:00
  actually
• 35:00
  turning
• 35:01
  to
• 35:01
  the
• 35:01
  book
• 35:01
  amid,
• 35:02
  because
• 35:03
  there
• 35:03
  is
• 35:03
  so
• 35:04
  much
• 35:04
  in
• 35:04
  this.
• 35:05
  First,
• 35:05
  there's
• 35:06
  a
• 35:06
  conceptual
• 35:07
  framework
• 35:08
  of
• 35:08
  a
• 35:09
  path
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  love
• 35:09
  which
• 35:10
  goes
• 35:10
  beyond
• 35:11
  almost
• 35:12
  anything
• 35:12
  else
• 35:12
  in
• 35:13
  the
• 35:13
  world's
• 35:13
  traditions.
• 35:14
  And
• 35:14
  it
• 35:14
  is
• 35:16
  mind
• 35:16
  and
• 35:17
  heart
• 35:17
  opening
• 35:18
  in
• 35:18
  an
• 35:18
  extraordinary
• 35:19
  way.
• 35:20
  And
• 35:20
  then
• 35:21
  there
• 35:22
  are
• 35:22
  a
• 35:22
  number
• 35:22
  of
• 35:22
  exercises
• 35:23
  which
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  think
• 35:24
  I
• 35:24
  mentioned
• 35:25
  a
• 35:25
  dialogue
• 35:26
  or
• 35:26
  two
• 35:26
  ago.
• 35:26
  I
• 35:27
  had
• 35:27
  a
• 35:27
  very
• 35:27
  powerful
• 35:28
  experience
• 35:28
  doing
• 35:28
  some
• 35:29
  of
• 35:29
  them,
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  it
• 35:29
  was
• 35:30
  very,
• 35:31
  very
• 35:31
  helpful.
• 35:32
  And
• 35:32
  then
• 35:32
  thirdly,
• 35:33
  there
• 35:33
  are
• 35:33
  the
• 35:33
  dialogues
• 35:34
  you
• 35:34
  have
• 35:35
  with
• 35:35
  some
• 35:35
  of
• 35:36
  your
• 35:36
  students
• 35:36
  in
• 35:36
  which
• 35:37
  the
• 35:37
  questions
• 35:37
  that
• 35:37
  arise
• 35:38
  naturally
• 35:38
  are
• 35:39
  brought
• 35:39
  out
• 35:39
  and
• 35:39
  you
• 35:39
  give
• 35:40
  answers.
• 35:40
  So
• 35:41
  it's
• 35:42
  not
• 35:42
  just
• 35:43
  a
• 35:43
  text,
• 35:44
  although
• 35:44
  it
• 35:44
  is
• 35:44
  a
• 35:45
  very
• 35:45
  profound
• 35:45
  one,
• 35:46
  but
• 35:46
  it's
• 35:46
  an
• 35:46
  interactive
• 35:47
  instrument
• 35:48
  which
• 35:48
  is
• 35:49
  really
• 35:49
  designed
• 35:50
  to
• 35:50
  give
• 35:50
  us
• 35:50
  a
• 35:50
  taste
• 35:51
  and
• 35:51
  help
• 35:51
  us
• 35:52
  work
• 35:52
  through
• 35:52
  the
• 35:53
  barriers
• 35:53
  and
• 35:54
  blocks
• 35:54
  that
• 35:54
  all
• 35:54
  of
• 35:54
  us
• 35:55
  have
• 35:55
  to
• 35:56
  this
• 35:56
  deeper
• 35:57
  realization
• 35:57
  of
• 35:58
  love
• 35:58
  and
• 35:59
  our
• 35:59
  true
• 35:59
  nature.
• 36:01
  There's
• 36:01
  just
• 36:01
  a
• 36:02
  lot
• 36:02
  in
• 36:02
  this.
• 36:03
  And
• 36:03
  I
• 36:03
  really
• 36:04
  want
• 36:04
  to
• 36:04
  encourage
• 36:05
  everyone
• 36:06
  listening
• 36:06
  to,
• 36:07
  read
• 36:07
  and
• 36:08
  work
• 36:08
  with
• 36:08
  this
• 36:08
  book.
• 36:09
  It's
• 36:09
  so
• 36:10
  profound
• 36:10
  and
• 36:11
  so
• 36:12
  powerful.
• 36:14
  Done
• 36:14
  out
• 36:14
  of
• 36:14
  love.
• 36:16
  I
• 36:16
  don't
• 36:16
  really
• 36:17
  care
• 36:17
  about
• 36:17
  selling
• 36:18
  the
• 36:18
  book.
• 36:21
  I
• 36:21
  am
• 36:22
  giving
• 36:22
  love.
• 36:23
  And
• 36:24
  the
• 36:24
  book
• 36:24
  is
• 36:25
  a
• 36:25
  channel
• 36:26
  for
• 36:26
  that.
• 36:27
  And
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  book
• 36:28
  actually,
• 36:28
  in
• 36:28
  the
• 36:28
  latter
• 36:29
  chapter
• 36:29
  discusses
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  mind
• 36:30
  too.
• 36:32
  Knowing
• 36:33
  to
• 36:33
  love.
• 36:34
  And
• 36:35
  so
• 36:35
  that's
• 36:35
  a
• 36:35
  whole
• 36:36
  other
• 36:36
  topic
• 36:36
  we
• 36:36
  haven't
• 36:37
  discussed.
• 36:37
  You
• 36:37
  know,
• 36:38
  that
• 36:39
  knowing
• 36:41
  and
• 36:41
  loving
• 36:42
  and
• 36:42
  not
• 36:42
  that
• 36:42
  separate.
• 36:44
  How
• 36:44
  the
• 36:44
  mind
• 36:44
  is
• 36:45
  connected
• 36:45
  to
• 36:46
  heart.
• 36:47
  Well,
• 36:48
  maybe
• 36:48
  as
• 36:48
  we
• 36:48
  continue
• 36:49
  with
• 36:49
  our
• 36:50
  dialogue
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  work
• 36:51
  our
• 36:51
  way
• 36:51
  back
• 36:51
  through
• 36:52
  the
• 36:52
  inner
• 36:53
  journey,
• 36:54
  we
• 36:54
  can
• 36:54
  discuss
• 36:55
  that
• 36:56
  the
• 36:56
  relationship
• 36:57
  of
• 36:57
  the
• 36:57
  two
• 36:58
  and
• 36:58
  the
• 36:58
  way
• 36:59
  these
• 36:59
  two
• 36:59
  paths
• 37:00
  come
• 37:00
  together.
• 37:00
  I
• 37:01
  think
• 37:01
  it'd
• 37:01
  be
• 37:01
  good
• 37:01
  to
• 37:02
  do
• 37:02
  that.
• 37:02
  It'll
• 37:02
  be
• 37:03
  useful
• 37:03
  for
• 37:03
  people
• 37:04
  to
• 37:04
  hear
• 37:04
  that
• 37:06
  we
• 37:06
  are
• 37:06
  not
• 37:06
  dismissing
• 37:07
  mind.
• 37:08
  Yeah,
• 37:08
  yeah.
• 37:10
  Its
• 37:10
  place.
• 37:10
  But
• 37:11
  we
• 37:11
  need
• 37:11
  to
• 37:11
  know
• 37:12
  what
• 37:12
  is
• 37:12
  its
• 37:13
  place.
• 37:14
  Well,
• 37:14
  let's
• 37:14
  plan
• 37:15
  on
• 37:15
  having
• 37:15
  that
• 37:15
  conversation.
• 37:16
  I
• 37:16
  mean,
• 37:17
  but
• 37:17
  now
• 37:17
  just
• 37:19
  boundless
• 37:20
  love
• 37:21
  and
• 37:21
  gratitude
• 37:22
  to
• 37:23
  you
• 37:24
  and
• 37:24
  being
• 37:24
  for
• 37:25
  bringing
• 37:26
  us
• 37:26
  this
• 37:26
  teaching
• 37:27
  through
• 37:27
  you.
• 37:29
  Yeah.
• 37:29
  Being
• 37:29
  with
• 37:30
  us
• 37:30
  again,
• 37:31
  you
• 37:31
  know,
• 37:31
  thank
• 37:31
  you.
• 37:32
  Thank
• 37:32
  you
• 37:33
  very
• 37:33
  much
• 37:34
  for
• 37:34
  apart
• 37:34
  ofthis
• 37:35
  conversation.Wehopethatyouwere
• 37:37
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• 37:37
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• 37:38
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