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Chuck & Buck 4-17 Hour 2: Mike Sando stops by, ABC's of the M's and so long to privacy! · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: I've already had two glasses this morning. Is that kind
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  Speaker 1: of a morning.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hug it out. It's Chuck, It's Ashley with you.
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  Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you all. Sorry, I'm running a little
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  Speaker 2: bit late. Sorry YouTubers, I'm looking right at you. Sorry Mom. Sorry. PS.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, sorry to PS because he's probably he's probably
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  Speaker 3: p O.
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  Speaker 2: Yes for sure. But I had to do a Dan
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  Speaker 2: Wilson rant today and I wasn't gonna cut it off
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  Speaker 2: just so we could stay on time. So sorry about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm not done. I'm not done ranting on Dan either,
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  Speaker 2: so we'll do a little more of that coming up
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  Speaker 2: later on in the show. But right now, it's time
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  Speaker 2: for joy. It's time for mirth, it's time for friends,
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  Speaker 2: it's time for family. It's time for draft. MIAs joining
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  Speaker 2: us on the program and our friends and family segment
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  Speaker 2: is our own NFL insider from the Athletic Happy Draft
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  Speaker 2: miss to our friend Mike Sando. Hello, sir, Good morning,
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  Speaker 2: How are you great? How are you doing? I'm doing great?
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  Speaker 2: Off this week about that I've never met anybody that
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  Speaker 2: loves football, the NFL, the NFL more than you. Where
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  Speaker 2: does draft rank amongst your things? That you look most
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  Speaker 2: forward to. It's interesting. I like the draft itself. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like the build up to it. And some of
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  Speaker 2: that for me is maybe I'm a little all or
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  Speaker 2: nothing on this stuff. But like, I'm so into the
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  Speaker 2: NFL that I feel like if you're going to be
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  Speaker 2: super into the draft, that's like its own industry, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to like be really be into the who's the third
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  Speaker 2: best linebacker and all that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 4: That's not me. Yeah, as much I love the strategy
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  Speaker 4: around me. I love leave it to me, Michael. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that type of stuff. Like even the teams get that
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  Speaker 4: wrong half the time, you know. Yeah, But I love
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  Speaker 4: the draft, uh, I love. My favorite thing about the
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  Speaker 4: draft is kind of when it's over and when you
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  Speaker 4: can kind of see what teams did. I really love
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  Speaker 4: that gifts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get, yeah, just from under the tree and
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  Speaker 2: you know exactly what you're playing with.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you can evaluate it, evaluate the trades,
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  Speaker 4: and you can kind of see what teams really thinking.
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  Speaker 4: And I love the analysis of it when it happens.
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  Speaker 4: The analysis of it going into it isn't as interesting
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  Speaker 4: to me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's all right, Mike. We all know
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  Speaker 2: our roles. We all love, we all play our roles.
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  Speaker 2: So you think it's weird that I have a month
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  Speaker 2: long holiday celebration for it and I'm currently wearing a
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  Speaker 2: smoker's jacket with a pipe in my hand.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, I love that people are into it that much.
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, my gosh, you know, you have
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  Speaker 4: to breathe sometime here. To me, going into the draft
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  Speaker 4: is a perfect like It's funny. I did a coming
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  Speaker 4: out of the combine. I did a thing where I
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  Speaker 4: pulled some people in the league and we put together
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  Speaker 4: at top ten to the NFL Draft, who are going
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  Speaker 4: to be the top ten picks, you know? And then
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  Speaker 4: I looked at, like, you know, the Dane Brugler's mock
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  Speaker 4: draft this week, and it's like pretty similar.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we and we and we've gone, you know,
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  Speaker 4: with a lot of the same players. I think three
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  Speaker 4: of the top four were the same or that sort
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  Speaker 4: of a thing. It's there's a lot of conversation that
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  Speaker 4: happens between then and now, and I'm not convinced that
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  Speaker 4: as much change is from between then and out, you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm looking forward to finding out
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  Speaker 2: the Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. So Mike Sander is with
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  Speaker 2: us our NFL insider, who's the who's the intriguing player
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  Speaker 2: then in your estimation, whether that's a team, a general manager,
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  Speaker 2: an owner in Dallas's case, I mean, what's that? What's
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  Speaker 2: that storyline that you think gives us that little bit
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  Speaker 2: of shock value that so many draft people love?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, who's going to be the how early
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  Speaker 4: is the second quarterback going to go? You know? And
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  Speaker 4: I think I think people have had you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: Ty Simpson in the top of the second round or somewhere,
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  Speaker 4: but you never really know on that. I think that
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  Speaker 4: it just takes one team to want somebody or have
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  Speaker 4: a need. I think that is that is an interesting one.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, Seattle to me at thirty two
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  Speaker 4: is interesting just like how do they get more picks?
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  Speaker 4: I think that there's no way they're going to have
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  Speaker 4: four picks in the drafts, So how do you I
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  Speaker 4: think they could be really applauded for getting you know,
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  Speaker 4: six seven picks out of this, but then who do
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  Speaker 4: you get? Like does it really work out?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 4: I think I think that's interesting for a team that
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  Speaker 4: lost a lot, you know, relatively speaking this offseason.
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  Speaker 2: How much credit do you give to success in the draft,
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  Speaker 2: because obviously it's very important, and it feels like the
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  Speaker 2: ones that are good at it are consistently good at it.
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  Speaker 2: John Schneider was great at it, maybe not so much
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  Speaker 2: there for a while, and now he's back on top
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  Speaker 2: of his game. So do you do you chalk it
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  Speaker 2: up to, oh, well, sometimes you just have a good
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  Speaker 2: run of luck. Or do you give Schneider the credit?
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  Speaker 2: Do you give the combination of Schneider and McDonald the
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  Speaker 2: credit like Pete and John used to be on the
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  Speaker 2: same page, Because I think there's I don't think it
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  Speaker 2: was a fluke that Ozzie Knewsom was great at this
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  Speaker 2: year after year after year after year. As much as
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  Speaker 2: some people want to call it a crapshoot, I just
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  Speaker 2: don't ever go there. So, oh, yeah, the Seahawks are
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  Speaker 2: on fire right now. Why do you think that is? Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I do think that. I do think it's having a
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  Speaker 4: good connection between your coach and your and your GM
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  Speaker 4: because when you think of it, like the old Bill
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  Speaker 4: Parcells things. Remember Bill Parcells said, I, as head coach,
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  Speaker 4: if I'm going to be making the meal, I want
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  Speaker 4: to shop for the groceries. Remember that, Yeah, Well, if
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  Speaker 4: the person shopping for your groceries isn't getting you what
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  Speaker 4: you know how to cook or want to cook, you're
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  Speaker 4: not going to have as good of a meal. That's
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  Speaker 4: just normal, right, And so I think having those two
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  Speaker 4: obviously know what they're doing, and then have the you know,
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  Speaker 4: be on the same page. So the coaching staff is
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  Speaker 4: excited about these guys. That's an underrated thing that we
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  Speaker 4: don't really the curtain doesn't get pulled back on the
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  Speaker 4: fact that, oh, this team didn't take this guy because
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  Speaker 4: the position coach didn't like him or things like that. Right,
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  Speaker 4: all sort of goes on the GM's tab. So when
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  Speaker 4: you can get all of that stuff synced up and
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  Speaker 4: get the right player, and I do think you have
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  Speaker 4: a big boost because the number one way to have
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  Speaker 4: really bad drafts is to have a lot of turnover,
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  Speaker 4: be firing our coach all the time, right, And sometimes
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  Speaker 4: I say, well, they fired the coach because they drafted
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  Speaker 4: this guy and he wasn't any good. But a lot
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  Speaker 4: of times they're gonna your draft's gonna look way worse
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  Speaker 4: if you make the trade, if you make the firings,
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  Speaker 4: because guys are going to come in and not like
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  Speaker 4: that guy as much. So in a place like Baltimore.
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  Speaker 4: He said, I just knew some knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: And then they've had two coaches this century, right, they've
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  Speaker 4: had two coaches. They had Brian Billock and they have
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  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh, and now they're gonna have finally a third.
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  Speaker 4: But I think that's a great recipe. And I agree
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  Speaker 4: that it's not a crap shoot. You know, I used
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  Speaker 4: to do a podcast with Randy Mueller and he really
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  Speaker 4: bristled at that idea that was a crap shooting. And
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  Speaker 4: I know there's you can make the case that it is,
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  Speaker 4: because you can go through and show that team's up
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  Speaker 4: and down and all over the place. But I think
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  Speaker 4: there's more to it than that. I really do well.
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  Speaker 2: I think teams get lucky every once in a while.
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  Speaker 2: I don't give the Patriots too much credit for time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Brady his development, but not drafting him. Otherwise you
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't have waited as long as you did to get him.
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  Speaker 2: And I think there are some teams that take guys
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  Speaker 2: that look like short things and they crap out and
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  Speaker 2: it might not necessarily be their fault, but the consistency
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  Speaker 2: when you're good more often than not, when you have
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  Speaker 2: good drafts more often than you have bad drafts. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's luck. I don't think that's fluke. I
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  Speaker 2: think that's what you got good per personnel people.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I agree with you on the Brady thing.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously an extreme example that they would have taken him
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  Speaker 4: earlier had they known. But a big part of the
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  Speaker 4: draft is knowing when you can get players too, even
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  Speaker 4: if they're really good. You know, sometimes it's knowing that, hey,
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  Speaker 4: we don't have to do this here, we can get
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  Speaker 4: this other thing, other guy, and that guy's going to
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  Speaker 4: be here. So map having that mapped out, and I
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  Speaker 4: think in general, standers done a good job of that.
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  Speaker 2: Mike Sander was with us, so you can follow Matt
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  Speaker 2: Sando NFL. We're talking some draft friends and family segment
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  Speaker 2: here in our Draft miss celebration. How big do you
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  Speaker 2: see the Ken Walker hole for the Seahawks and how
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  Speaker 2: long can they wait into the draft before they take
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  Speaker 2: a running back?
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  Speaker 4: I think it's a big, big hole just at the
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  Speaker 4: position in general, with Zach Scharbney also coming off of
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  Speaker 4: an injury. So but that being said, I don't get
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  Speaker 4: the sense that people are going to be clamoring to
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  Speaker 4: take running backs early. So maybe there's one they love
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  Speaker 4: and they feel like they got to have them in
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  Speaker 4: the second round, but I just haven't felt that. So
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  Speaker 4: I could see them waiting longer than that. I could
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  Speaker 4: see them, you know, I could see them taking We've
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  Speaker 4: seen this happen before. They don't take one. What if
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  Speaker 4: they didn't take one, you know, until this sixth round.
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  Speaker 4: I think that could totally happen, just based on you know,
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  Speaker 4: they're not going to force that pick and they're not
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  Speaker 4: going to panic over it. I think it's easier not
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  Speaker 4: to panic when you just won the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: And speaking of running backs, is Jeremiah Love from what
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  Speaker 2: you have studied? And I know that you don't find
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  Speaker 2: tooth callback do you see him as special? And in
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  Speaker 2: this dime a dozen running back dear that seems to
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  Speaker 2: be changing here recently with Barkley kind of carrying the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles to the Super Bowl title. A couple of years ago,
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  Speaker 2: Bijon Robinson looked like he was worth that high pick.
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs and Detroit looks like he's worth that high pick.
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  Speaker 2: Has it changed a little bit behind the scenes, the
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  Speaker 2: view on running backs here in the last couple of years,
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  Speaker 2: and how will that reflect Thursday with Jeremiah Love out
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  Speaker 2: of Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's going to go in the top ten.
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  Speaker 4: Some of that is just because, you know, it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem like people are overly excited about a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the other players up there. So you know, if he
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  Speaker 4: were to go get past Washington, even you know, that
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  Speaker 4: could be surprising. I think that would be a makes
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  Speaker 4: sense for them too, with their quarterback and this guy,
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  Speaker 4: and you put those two things together. So I do
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  Speaker 4: think that. You know, for a while there it was
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  Speaker 4: overboard about how you never take a running back high.
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  Speaker 4: It was kind of one of those Hey, this is
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  Speaker 4: an analytics revelation here. We're in the analytics era. You
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  Speaker 4: never you never do this, You never do that. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think he'd never say never. I do think the
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  Speaker 4: value is proven clearly. If two things players are equal,
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  Speaker 4: you go at a different position because of the financial
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  Speaker 4: component of drafting these guys in positions. If you draft
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  Speaker 4: a running back in the top ten, you're paying him
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  Speaker 4: near the top of the market for running backs, much
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  Speaker 4: nearer the top of the market than if you were
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  Speaker 4: to have a pass rusher at who you value similarly. Definitely,
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  Speaker 4: the positional value does matter in that case. But when
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  Speaker 4: you're talking about special talents, and I think people do
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  Speaker 4: think that Jeremiah Love is one, you know, you you
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  Speaker 4: probably I'd much sure to have that the just hey,
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  Speaker 4: we did the positional value thing and got a mediocre
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  Speaker 4: pass rusher. So I do think he will go in
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  Speaker 4: the top ten. And and you know whether he's going
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  Speaker 4: to pan out.
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  Speaker 3: Shoot.
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  Speaker 4: We've seen a bunch of these guys. Trent Richardson looked great,
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  Speaker 4: he was going to be great, Ashton Janet, he was
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  Speaker 4: going to be great. He's special. You know, I see
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  Speaker 4: a lot of those guys, miss too.
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  Speaker 2: Is Fernando Mendoz's special? Will he make a very early
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  Speaker 2: appearance near your quarterback tier top of your quarterback tiers?
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  Speaker 2: And is there another guy that you see or that
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  Speaker 2: you're hearing from the people that you talk to that
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  Speaker 2: might have that face of the franchise existence going forward?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I know some coaches who we just as soon
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  Speaker 4: have Ty Simpson as Fernando Mendez. I think it's a
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  Speaker 4: smaller group, and I think that I think that as
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  Speaker 4: those guys look at the players more closely. That Mendoz
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  Speaker 4: has gone up. But I don't get the sense that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he's I think he's gonna go number one.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get the sense that he's super generational. I
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  Speaker 4: think he's you know, in a good in the right system,
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  Speaker 4: good place. Seems to have be completely squared away, like
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  Speaker 4: in the you know, the psychological component of this, which
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  Speaker 4: is big for quarterbacks. So I think they're gonna feel
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  Speaker 4: good about taking them. But I don't think that anyone
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  Speaker 4: is feeling like, you know, this is the John L
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  Speaker 4: Way Andrew luckdraft.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and by the way, have you seen Trevor Lawrence's hair?
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  Speaker 2: He finally cut his hair.
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  Speaker 4: He looks fantasm Absolutely, he looks great. I mean it's
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  Speaker 4: the biggest offseason upgrade than any one's made, don't you think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe it. I don't know what he
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  Speaker 2: was going with it for so long, and now that
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  Speaker 2: I see it short, I'm like, dude, I guarantee you
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  Speaker 2: he's kicking himself from here like I should have done
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  Speaker 2: this seven years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he's gonna be He's gonna go right to tier
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  Speaker 4: one and quarterback tiers. You know, it's just gonna there's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be no change in his play. Like, Oh, this
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  Speaker 4: guy looks great. He looked great this offseason. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what it is. Tier one. Yeah, yeah, it's an
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  Speaker 4: unbelievable Now I don't understand is it's not like he
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  Speaker 4: was going with a conventional look before. I mean, no, no,
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  Speaker 4: I can't either.
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  Speaker 2: He's going fashionable. It just looks a million times better,
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  Speaker 2: that's all.
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  Speaker 4: My gosh, he looks like, you know, complete complete makeover. Man.
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  Speaker 4: We all need to reassess Chuck. We all need to
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  Speaker 4: like take that picture in to someone professional. He is
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: there something like this for me? I mean, this guy
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  Speaker 4: improved like one hundred percent overnight.
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  Speaker 2: I've lived that life before, by the way, I've lived
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  Speaker 2: that held onto my long hair too long into my
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  Speaker 2: early twenties and regret it. But now I don't have
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  Speaker 2: any options left to Sando. Yeah, I'm pretty much scared out,
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  Speaker 2: all right. So so give me something that Mike Sando
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  Speaker 2: specifically loves about, either the draft class or the festivities
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  Speaker 2: next Thursday. Maybe it's a player. Maybe it's somebody that
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  Speaker 2: you really like and you cannot wait to see how
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  Speaker 2: the chips fall and where that person lands.
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  Speaker 4: Well, let's see where let me look through these, let
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  Speaker 4: me just see. I'm kind of interested in what happened
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  Speaker 4: with Reuben Bain. I think that he is somebody who
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  Speaker 4: people have seen as a kind of a tone setter
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  Speaker 4: in his style of play. And then we had the
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  Speaker 4: big you know, little brew ha ha, where you know,
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  Speaker 4: got reported that he had, you know, a pretty significant
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  Speaker 4: off field thing a couple of years ago, and then
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  Speaker 4: people the Draftnicks, Todd McShay and these kids are like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: everybody knew about that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is not a factor.
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  Speaker 4: So I love. I don't love that somebody had a
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  Speaker 4: terrible time right field, but I do like the all right,
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  Speaker 4: let's just kind of see after the draft, there could
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  Speaker 4: be some sort of you know, if he goes nineteenth
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  Speaker 4: or something, right, then those people who brought up the
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  Speaker 4: news thing, maybe they're vindicated some way. I think Dane
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  Speaker 4: Bruger has him going ninth. I think he'll probably go
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  Speaker 4: in the top ten. But I think that him and
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  Speaker 4: then the edge rusher class in general, I think there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of those guys who've kind of been pushed
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  Speaker 4: up there. And I've talked to some people with teams
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  Speaker 4: like I don't know, but you got to pick somebody, right,
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  Speaker 4: So how many where does he go? And how many
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  Speaker 4: of those guys are in the top ten? Is is
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  Speaker 4: something I'm watching.
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  Speaker 2: And then something that is sort of draft related, but
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  Speaker 2: more up your alli, AJ Brown Dexter Lawrence. Are they
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  Speaker 2: going to get moved here before the draft or maybe
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  Speaker 2: after the draft?
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  Speaker 4: The AJ Brown one seems to make the most sense
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  Speaker 4: after the draft for the accounting reasons, right, it's better
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  Speaker 4: on your salary cap to wait until June before you
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  Speaker 4: unload somebody that you're super invested in. And that would
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  Speaker 4: be a J. Brown for the Eagles. And I do
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  Speaker 4: think that they're going to move them. And they've made
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  Speaker 4: some They've tipped their hand a little bit, right, They've
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  Speaker 4: acquired like seventeen receivers in the last few weeks, right,
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  Speaker 4: They've they've made a couple of trades. They've got more
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: than one receiver in there. And we'll see what they
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: do in the draft. But I do think that he
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: will move Dexter Lawrence. I'm not as sure on but man,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: good player.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, man, Well, happy Draftmas to you. Maybe
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: it's not for you the super Bowl, but nonetheless, I
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: know They're going to be a lot of intriguing storylines
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: that are going to be cooking next week. So we
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: had to have you on. We had to have a
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: conversation with you and had to issue a merry draftmas.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I love it. It's more like a divisional playoff game
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Still big, still big, still big, still big.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, not quite the super Bowl, but yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: We'll see all right, Mike, thank you, We'll talk to
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: you soon. Okay, serious, Mike Sando joining us right here
• 16:13
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  Speaker 2: with us throughout the regular season and a must for
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  Speaker 2: draft miss celebration. All right, Coming up next, we're going
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: to try to get four letters in the ABC's of
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  Speaker 2: the MS, because I think all four of these things
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  Speaker 2: have to be discussed. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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  Speaker 3: Us down a wrung or two ever fits hu joining,
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  Speaker 3: I would assume, Yeah, I assume he's going to make
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  Speaker 3: us feel like really big hockey idiots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Spencer was great, by the way, when we did
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: this with the NBA playoffs Wednesday, and so, Everett, you
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  Speaker 2: got a lot to loo up here, buddy.
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  Speaker 3: I think it'll be just as great and if not
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  Speaker 3: more critical, because he even knows us better.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: He knows this is a little bit better. He's not
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: afraid to tell me, like you, your skin care is rubbish. Right,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: he's not afraid.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: He's not afraid to use rubbish. That's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I can use it with you. You've got your mom's British.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I can understand what you're.
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  Speaker 2: Saying, right, exactly, I speak your language. Let's get to
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: the ABC's of the MS, and I want to get
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  Speaker 2: through four letters, only four different topics here, because the
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  Speaker 2: alphabet's pumped out some pretty interesting subjects here regarding our
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: mariners here as of late, and M is for munos
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: andres munos. And iired a lot of different analysts yesterday
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out is there anything wrong with Andre's munos?
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: And it turns out all you had to do is
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: ask Andres Munos. I mean, he's so kind and he's
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: so honest. I mean he just basically spelled it out
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: for you. I don't have my slider feel, and that
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: is my best pitch, that's my most important pitch. There's
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with his velo velocity. There's nothing physically wrong
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: with him. I actually thought his sinker looked fantastic the
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: other day. And if anything, I think he and Cal
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: are just so used to having him having a great
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: slider that they weren't calling the sinker enough in that
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: situation where he blew the game. He also said that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: was the worst I've ever pitched, that I've never felt
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: that uncomfortable on the mound getting beaten up that much.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: And he said I'm not pitching enough, which was very
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: loud and clear to me. He's not getting enough reps,
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: and I think that goes all the way back to
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: when he was on Team Mexico in the way that
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: they had to manage things there. Look, I don't think
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: there's anything wrong with Andre Smunos other than he's off
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: a little bit. I think that anybody that wants to
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: jump ship on this guy is crazy. He's been not
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: just a good reliever. He's been an elite reliever the
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: last couple of years, and he's never been south of
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: good his entire time in a Mariner uniform, except for
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the year he missed with the injury. So I think
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: he's going to be fine, but he's telling you what
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: he needs. Number one, don't ever let anyone be in
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: the WBC ever again. Yes, I just heard enough to
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: say that everybody's out of their rhythm with the way
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: the pitchers throw today one hundred miles per hour. Hitters
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: need the routine that they have, and I think that
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: these modern day athletes walk such a fine line between
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: good and great or bad and good, that they need
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: their repetition. They need their routine, and we took it
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: away from all of our best players this spring. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: don't want to see another Mariner ever in the WBC.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: And listen to your closer, Dan, he can't pitch every
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: six days and stay sharp, So I don't care if
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you don't have situations that are perfectly tidy for a
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: safe situation. Up one in the ninth, Andre's Munnos needs
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: a little more work than what you're giving him. Get
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the man some work. He's telling you publicly that he
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: needs it.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you can't listen to your own players
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: telling you straight out, flat out what they need, then
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: what that's part of your job as a manager. You
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: were supposed to be managing the people, managing the players.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: He's saying it out loud.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Get him more work?
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Uh? Nis for Naylor, he plays with intensity. I don't
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: know if intense guys for now that we're seeing him
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: over one hundred and sixty two games, maybe you can't.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: I mean when he got here there was intensity, and
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: then he was in a playoff push, and then he
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: was in the playoffs. I kind of believed that that
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: guy was laser focused at all times. I'm not sure
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: he is anymore. And last night was a terrible play
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: by him. I mean, that is a routine play every
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: first baseman has to make. And it wasn't just that
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: he dropped it. It was the approach. It was letting
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: it go so far? What happened? Why not next to
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: him get to the bag and stretch out and go
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: get it, don't? Why are you letting it come to
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: you and then nonchalantly trying to field it off to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: the side, and he took his eye off the ball
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: and that was a big error. That was a huge misstep.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Castillo needed everybody around him to be better so he
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: could get out of that inning, and instead Castillo makes
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: the good play, got charged with an error, initially made
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the best throw that he could under the circumstances. And
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Naylor a first baseman, Like, if it's some utility guy
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: that's not played a lot of first base, I forget
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: that play. That was one of those unforgivable plays right there.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You got to catch that baseball, and you got to
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: make it an easier catch for yourself than what you did.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm putting a lot of that loss on Josh
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Naylor last night.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: And I think that he would be the first one
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: to say, wow, I was not. I mean because from
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: what we know of him, right, he is constantly thinking
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: about every aspect of the game. So there's no way
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: that he went into the clubhouse last night thinking, yeah,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I had a great game. Yeah, he's going to think
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: about that for sure. I could have improved it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think he carries it over. I think he's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: one of those people I say, boy, I screwed that up.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I can't do that again. Yeah, And it's not going
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: to like bother him. No, I don't think he lost
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: sleep last night. But that was Josh Naylor. That was
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a four run inning that should have been a two
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: run inning at most, and you fall down four runs
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: to this team with their bullpen, and odds are you're
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: not going to come back. Ohways for open minded and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I would just ask for as I get ready to
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: make this next statement, everybody to be a little open
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: minded on this. And I would really have to ask
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Luis Castillo to be open minded on this. Nervous is
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: there a chance that Luis Castillo could be a great reliever?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Like if he got to just I'm going to come
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: in and throw my best, nastiest stuff for an inning,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Like could he be a back of the end bullpen guy.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, we've had this conversation with Ryan Healey last week,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and we've had it a couple of times ourselves, trying
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to figure out if you, you know, if you get
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that six starter back in Bryce Miller, how are you
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: going to construct the five man rotation? Because I think
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: six man rotations out of the question for me, and
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: so I don't want to just send Emerson Hancock to
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: the bullpen or to Tacoma because the other five guys
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: have seniority over him. He might be pitching better than
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: any of them. He's certainly pitching better than Castillo. And
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: I'm watching Castillo and he's got all that run and
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: all that movement on his pitches, and he was getting
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: beat up because he was missing up last night and
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: then he did settle back in. But if Luis Castile
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: could just say I'm gonna throw as hard as I can,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: with as much movement and run as I can, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: think maybe he could profile as a late inning reliever
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: for you. We see this happen to starters in the playoffs.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Is that?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, are we open minded? Would he be open
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: minded to the thought of we're not just sticking you
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: into the bullpen to buy time, We're not going to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: turn you into a long reliever. We think you might
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: be able to be a lights out, back of the end,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: back of the bullpen kind of guy. Is that a possibility?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Am I crazy on this?
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I mean it doesn't sound crazy to me.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: And if you think, like, yeah, now he doesn't have
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: to try to maintain his arm and all of those
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: pitches for five or six or however many innings, is
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: he and just.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: I think he could still be a closer, and I
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: would I mean, I'm not gonna make him one, no, but.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind seeing him walking out of that bullpen
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: in the ninth inning with the fire and the you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: flashing lights.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel like he'd be in
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: his element.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: I don't think the heartbeat raises all that much when
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: he comes into games or in big situations. Maybe. I mean,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: John Smoltz did it, and John Smoltz had a more
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: decorated starting pitching career than what Luis Castillo did. Trying
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: to figure out the use for him trying to keep
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Hancock and Miller into the starting rotation, he obviously is
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: struggling more so than any starting pitcher so far. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: don't know. I'd just like to be open. I'd like
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: to have a conversation with it about it. Yeah, would
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: be good.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm open to that conversation for sure.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Finally, a PS for pinch hitter, uh Man. I could
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: hear Bucky Jacobson yelling into the mountains last night, Mitch
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Garver might have had his biggest Garver moment of his
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: entire Mariner career, and considering all the evaluation. What is
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Bucky said about Mitch Garver. I don't hate the guy.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I hate his approach. Yes, he's supposed to be a
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: designated hitter. It's a pinch hitter. It's not a designated walker.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It's not a pinch walker. And Bucky's frustration with Mitch
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Garver is that he feels like every time he goes
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: to the plate he's looking to get walked rather than
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: to do damage. That's been Bucky's thing with Mitch Garver
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: now for a couple of years, two plus years. Last
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: night had to have put our friend Bucky Jacobson over
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: the edge because Mitch Garver literally tried to.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: Walk before he had four balls last night, took off
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: his shint guard or whatever guard that was everything, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: then they're like, uh wait, everyone, even Aaron was like,
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: sometimes I wonder like did I get it wrong?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: Because I keep my book and maybe I got it wrong.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Everybody was looking at him. Never before has Mitch Garver
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: made it more obvious to Bucky's point that he's up
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: there looking for a walk than the night he decided
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I'm going to walk on three pitches and try to
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: get away with accurate three balls. I should say, because
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: it was a two two count. Yeah, and I think
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: there was a foul ball in there as well, So
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: he'd seen a lot of pitches yeah, and apparently had
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: lost track. But I could just feel Bucky fuming from
• 26:50
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• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he was just like, are you he? There
• 26:55
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  Speaker 2: I had to bring that up to day.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's the Friday ocho. And I did not put
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  Speaker 2: this is one of the things I was struggling with
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  Speaker 2: yesterday when the Angie story broke out from Barstool, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm even struggling mentioning it today because there are a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people like, what are you talking about? And
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  Speaker 2: now you're going to go look it up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Barstool deleted it, by the way, I.
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  Speaker 2: Know they deleted it, but just giving it. But it
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  Speaker 2: even got another round of attention for that after. So,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you didn't hear there was a photo
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  Speaker 2: taken of Angie Mentink preparing for I mean it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: even for an interview because they don't do post game
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  Speaker 2: loss interviews.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was her first game back.
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  Speaker 2: And so she was on her phone and they caught
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  Speaker 2: something on her phone. That's all I'm gonna say. Yeah, anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it was clearly an invasion of privacy, and then Barstool,
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  Speaker 2: which isn't a reputable source, decided to make it a
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  Speaker 2: national story. And we've got right now this entire minefield
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  Speaker 2: the Diana Russini thing, and even though the two things
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  Speaker 2: are apples and oranges, nevertheless it seems to be field
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  Speaker 2: day against female sportscasters. And so Angie had a rough
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: day having to get kind of beaten up over this
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: story that popped up yesterday on barstool. So I anyone
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: really want to talk about it, because I don't want
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to now light fire under Everybody who hasn't heard it
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  Speaker 2: is going to now go look it up. But I
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: was struggling, Like I realized that people want to say
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  Speaker 2: like to love Angie Mentink, and there's a lot to
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  Speaker 2: me a little bit uncomfortable because barstool was getting exactly
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  Speaker 2: what they wanted out of it. They got two to
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  Speaker 2: three rounds of interest in a story that they should
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: have never run with.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Well it was, and it wasn't barstool who put it
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: up originally. So it had a million and a half
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: views from the original person.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: But it would have never become big without Barstool.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was still pretty big.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: It had Like for the one poster who is a
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: no name person who apparently invaded her privacy by taking
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: the screenshot, he got over a million and a half
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: viewsed just by himself before Barstool even got a whole
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  Speaker 3: of it, so that's kind of how they found it.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have as much of a problem as all
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the people who were talking about her using AI because
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  Speaker 3: this is a that is kind of the way that
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  Speaker 3: this world is going. And she went out and said, hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I experimented with it to see if it had any
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  Speaker 3: questions to add to my list. It wasn't something that
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  Speaker 3: she was using that day. It wasn't even taken the
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  Speaker 3: day that the person posted it after the Mariner's loss
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: to the Padres blowing the ninth inning lead, which is
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: what he made it seem like like she wouldn't be
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: able to do.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: A postgame interview after that, and it was.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: But the thing that baffled me is that people were
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: defending or justifying that, Well, she's a public person in
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: a public space. So because of that, because she's a
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: person that you are all familiar with who's at a
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: baseball game working. By the way, she wasn't there watching
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: the game. She's working. It's okay that some ass hat
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: decides to take a screenshot of her phone and post
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  Speaker 3: it to try and make her look bad, even if
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  Speaker 3: he's not posting it to make her look bad. That's
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  Speaker 3: not your business. That is her phone. If you are
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  Speaker 3: in public, you are still entitled to some privacy. It
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  Speaker 3: does not mean that strangers should be able to take
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  Speaker 3: pictures of your phone and post it everywhere, whether you're
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  Speaker 3: known or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree on thousand percent invasion of privacy
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  Speaker 2: on top of it. And then it ends up they
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  Speaker 2: got another round of attention because the stroke story was told,
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: and then barstools, well, we're going to take it off
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  Speaker 2: because we did not know that. And here, what we
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: know about Angie is that she never really wanted people
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  Speaker 2: to know about that to begin with. And now everybody
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: knows it. Yeah, now now it's out everywhere out there,
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  Speaker 2: and she just unfortunately was the victim of some horrible
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  Speaker 2: day that never should have existed. And then last night,
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  Speaker 2: like a pro, she went out there and did the
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  Speaker 2: game flawlessly.
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  Speaker 1: Yes she did.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying she didn't have flaws. I'm saying
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  Speaker 2: that she never at any moment the game would you
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  Speaker 2: have thought she had a bad day trying to defend herself, right.
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  Speaker 3: And this is the thing with anyone in the public forum,
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  Speaker 3: right on radio, on TV, whatever, yes, you can absolutely
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: be critical of a person in the way that they
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: do their job if you don't like it, if you
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: have issues with it, that is one thing. But to
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  Speaker 3: try and publicly mock somebody for something that is a
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: private thing. And she said, I'm just always learning. I
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: put it in AI to see if it could help
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  Speaker 3: me come up with some more questions. Okay, well, why
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  Speaker 3: do we have a problem with that. People use AI
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: in their jobs all the time, now you're supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: That's just the social media is just a vicious entity,
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  Speaker 2: and I, you know, I don't like it.
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  Speaker 3: We had AI shoved down her throat to write an
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: email and like, no, I think I can write my
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: own damn email.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish we didn't use it because it just
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  Speaker 2: fosters this sort of stuff and it just keeps getting
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: uglier and nastier. It's not getting better. No O Cho's next,
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