Latest / The Mark Simone Show / Hour 2: Do you love cats?
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now the Red Beret has returned to radio. Curtis Lee
- 0:05Speaker 1: guest host the Mark Simone Show on sevent ten wo R.
- 0:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I just came through the tunnel here at iHeart
- 0:28Speaker 2: w R. It's all red. You know, it could be
- 0:31Speaker 2: the locker room for the Kansas City Chiefs Arrowhead Stadium
- 0:38Speaker 2: now moving to Kansas. You know, like Dorothy, you know,
- 0:42Speaker 2: clicking her red shoes. But I'm festooned all in red,
- 0:47Speaker 2: red satine jacket, red beret, feeling like Sanny Claus and
- 0:53Speaker 2: also having received a gift to be able to broadcast
- 0:57Speaker 2: to all of you and our new found talk radio
- 1:01Speaker 2: station seven to ten WR that Nancy and I listened
- 1:04Speaker 2: to as often as possible. And she joins me right
- 1:09Speaker 2: now as she joined me at many times on WABC.
- 1:13Speaker 2: No longer our place to be where they were always bashing, Curtis.
- 1:16Speaker 2: But I know you're busy getting ready for our trip
- 1:19Speaker 2: ahead the next two days, as we'll be dealing with
- 1:22Speaker 2: family members on your side of the family. So I'd
- 1:26Speaker 2: like it just to give everybody here an idea who
- 1:30Speaker 2: you are and where you came from as long term
- 1:34Speaker 2: listeners here at seven to ten WR.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Well, that's a pretty tall order. But let's see, so
- 1:42Speaker 3: where I came from. I grew up in Long Island.
- 1:46Speaker 3: I graduated from Stonybrook, I went to law school in Brooklyn,
- 1:53Speaker 3: and once I got to Brooklyn, I never looked back.
- 1:57Speaker 3: You know, I love being in the city, and living
- 2:00Speaker 3: in Brooklyn was the first time that I had discovered
- 2:03Speaker 3: all of these cats that wander around outside. And that's
- 2:09Speaker 3: when I first discovered the concept of the colony cats
- 2:12Speaker 3: and all the people out there who were taking care
- 2:16Speaker 3: of them, and you know, had like regular groups of
- 2:19Speaker 3: outdoor cats because as you know, the shelter system is
- 2:22Speaker 3: so filled up, and unfortunately, you know, they're a kill
- 2:27Speaker 3: shelter in the city, so you know, they bring them in,
- 2:30Speaker 3: they warehouse them a bit, and then after that happens,
- 2:32Speaker 3: they euthanize them pretty quickly, even when they don't really
- 2:35Speaker 3: have any significant types of problems. So you know, that's
- 2:39Speaker 3: not a great place to be. And I realized that
- 2:42Speaker 3: there's this incredible community of people out there who are
- 2:45Speaker 3: doing exactly what you know, it's passionate. I'm passionate about,
- 2:49Speaker 3: which is taking care of them, realizing that they can
- 2:52Speaker 3: live outside as long as you know, it's done within,
- 2:55Speaker 3: like the structure of the colony, which is making sure
- 2:58Speaker 3: they're spade and neutered, providing them with houses, especially in
- 3:02Speaker 3: inclement weather like right now where it's cold outside, and
- 3:07Speaker 3: you know, feeding them on a regular basis, so that's
- 3:09Speaker 3: way they have a food source. So I mean, you know,
- 3:13Speaker 3: I guess that's the And then Ned, I met you
- 3:15Speaker 3: about ten years ago or so, and you know we've
- 3:18Speaker 3: been together ever since, So that's that's me in a nutshell.
- 3:21Speaker 3: I guess.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember you were living in Sunset Park at
- 3:24Speaker 2: the time, and you said, there are cats living in
- 3:28Speaker 2: the alleyway, you know, swear all the garages were. And
- 3:32Speaker 2: I said, I didn't see Anny. I walked through the alleyway.
- 3:35Speaker 2: I didn't see Anny. And then you walked through and
- 3:38Speaker 2: you made this sound like the female version of Doctor Doolittle.
- 3:42Speaker 2: And I mean, cats were coming out of every Nikrannian
- 3:47Speaker 2: corner and they were rubbing up against your leg, the
- 3:51Speaker 2: tails in the air, all of them with all of
- 3:54Speaker 2: their own unique personalities as I observed them, and there
- 3:59Speaker 2: were so many people just like yourself, mostly women, some
- 4:03Speaker 2: men out of pocket who care for these animals sometimes
- 4:09Speaker 2: in distress, will also serve as a barrier because their
- 4:13Speaker 2: presence keeps the rats, the mice, the rodents away, and
- 4:18Speaker 2: so they earn their keep many times over without there
- 4:21Speaker 2: having to be pesticides and all other kinds of alternatives
- 4:26Speaker 2: they used to try to eliminate the rats and the
- 4:30Speaker 2: mice that you'll never eliminate. You could have daytime with them,
- 4:33Speaker 2: but you can keep them at bay. What was it
- 4:36Speaker 2: like when people would turn to you and it'll call
- 4:40Speaker 2: you a cat lady or disparagingly make fun of you
- 4:43Speaker 2: because you and others were reaching into your pocket spending
- 4:48Speaker 2: your own money to care for these animals.
- 4:51Speaker 3: Well, I mean, well, first of all, I don't get
- 4:53Speaker 3: offended by people, you know, I usually try to explain
- 4:56Speaker 3: it to them, because you know, the mis inception I
- 5:00Speaker 3: I would get a lot of times is like somehow
- 5:02Speaker 3: I brought them there, like I created these cats, And
- 5:04Speaker 3: I try to you know, you have to explain no, no, no,
- 5:07Speaker 3: there's so many of them that live outside all the time,
- 5:11Speaker 3: and what I'm doing is basically caring for the ones
- 5:13Speaker 3: that are here. And if if for some reason, you know,
- 5:17Speaker 3: someone calls like the you know, the shelter to come
- 5:20Speaker 3: pick them up, it just creates a vacuum in that area,
- 5:23Speaker 3: and then what happens is other cats in the area
- 5:25Speaker 3: move in. There's just so many cats you don't see
- 5:26Speaker 3: them all the time. So I'm you know, I'm pretty
- 5:29Speaker 3: tough skinned, like I wouldn't really take it when people
- 5:31Speaker 3: are getting annoyed. But that's why you also have to
- 5:34Speaker 3: make sure you take care of these things in a
- 5:36Speaker 3: decent basis. So for example, you know, you don't leave
- 5:39Speaker 3: the food around, you don't do things that are going
- 5:40Speaker 3: to clearly bother neighbors, and you know, create nuisance. So
- 5:44Speaker 3: as long as and again that's also why you want
- 5:46Speaker 3: to make sure that you get the cats fixed. I
- 5:48Speaker 3: mean that's essential. You can't keep having the kittens around.
- 5:51Speaker 3: And then plus when they're fixed, they calm down a lot.
- 5:54Speaker 3: I mean, the the aggression that happens with the mail
- 5:57Speaker 3: cats when they're not fixed, I mean, it's all territory. Also,
- 6:01Speaker 3: you know, you can get their behavior to a point
- 6:04Speaker 3: where you know they're i mean again, they're they're the
- 6:06Speaker 3: same as the indoor cats. It's just they need, you know,
- 6:10Speaker 3: the very specific attention because it's a tough it's a
- 6:13Speaker 3: tough time out there. You know, there's a lot of
- 6:14Speaker 3: cats that just inavertently stumble on poisons things of that nature.
- 6:17Speaker 3: Like I would have to explain to people like, you know,
- 6:20Speaker 3: don't inavertently throw things down, because that happens a lot too.
- 6:23Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it always bothers me in the winter. Now,
- 6:26Speaker 3: obviously you see a lot of people throwing down the
- 6:28Speaker 3: like rock salt. The city throws down the rock salt.
- 6:31Speaker 3: That's actually dangerous for animals because they use like the
- 6:33Speaker 3: cheapest variety. So you know, you have this. I mean,
- 6:36Speaker 3: it's a tough life for them out there. So you know,
- 6:39Speaker 3: I just you know, I'm very compassionate. You know, I'll
- 6:41Speaker 3: have people who you know, you know, I feel like
- 6:44Speaker 3: everyone can understand it if you explain it to them,
- 6:46Speaker 3: and then if they don't understand it after that, then
- 6:48Speaker 3: to heck with them, because you know, they're living creatures
- 6:51Speaker 3: and I can't see any justification for letting someone's dislike
- 6:56Speaker 3: of them ever stop the behavior of caring for animals.
- 6:58Speaker 2: Now, what I loved about Wisconsin when I was up
- 7:01Speaker 2: there organizing Guardian Angels and Milwaukee is they don't use
- 7:04Speaker 2: rock salt because they had, you know, years ago, they
- 7:07Speaker 2: had feet of snow. It's not like that as it
- 7:11Speaker 2: used to be. But they would put down a brine
- 7:14Speaker 2: of parmesan cheese, a brine, yeah, and naturally, I mean
- 7:20Speaker 2: even some people, you know, it's, oh, parmesan cheese. They'd
- 7:24Speaker 2: be down there, you know, licking the asphalt. But there
- 7:28Speaker 2: were so many other alternatives, and I think the one
- 7:33Speaker 2: singular thing that comes across is I've noticed some time
- 7:36Speaker 2: to time you'll be walking the streets where we live
- 7:38Speaker 2: and you'll see some pigeons in distress, and you'll feed them.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Some people will refer them as rats with wings, others
- 7:46Speaker 2: as basically the official bird of New York City. Fact
- 7:51Speaker 2: that i'd been elected mayor, as you know, on the
- 7:54Speaker 2: campaign trail, I said, we would have taken the New
- 7:57Speaker 2: York City flag. It's like some indescript bird on the
- 8:02Speaker 2: I would put a pigeon. That's what New York City
- 8:04Speaker 2: is known for. And I noticed some people would be
- 8:08Speaker 2: talking and she's feeding the pigeons, and I will walk
- 8:12Speaker 2: off to them and I'd say, you got a problem
- 8:14Speaker 2: with that, Oh no, Curtis, No, No, you know that's
- 8:18Speaker 2: my wife, Nancy. You got a problem with that? No, No,
- 8:21Speaker 2: And then they have spikes that they yeah, they the windowsills.
- 8:27Speaker 3: The aggression against the pigeons I find really really distasteful.
- 8:32Speaker 3: To your point, the spikes that are allowed to be
- 8:36Speaker 3: put up and then now you have pigeons that are maimed.
- 8:38Speaker 3: I mean that to me. I can't believe that's even
- 8:41Speaker 3: legal that that happened. But I definitely catch a lot
- 8:44Speaker 3: of guff for throwing down the bird seed with the pigeons.
- 8:48Speaker 3: But then usually the people who are saying something to
- 8:51Speaker 3: me are walking their dog who's urinating on the sidewalk,
- 8:54Speaker 3: so I'm not really sure where they are on their
- 8:57Speaker 3: high horse telling me anything about fendliness of animals, So
- 9:02Speaker 3: you know, to each it on, I guess right.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's a much better remedy. If you don't
- 9:06Speaker 2: want pigeons flocking around, you just put up a plastic owl.
- 9:11Speaker 2: It's like in cornfields when they put up scarecrows. That
- 9:16Speaker 2: has the same impact without damaging the pigeons. And it's
- 9:20Speaker 2: a horrific death that they suffer because they get impaled.
- 9:24Speaker 2: And some people in their minds, you know, that's a OK.
- 9:31Speaker 2: But I think the broader issue is you know, and
- 9:34Speaker 2: again it's what I based both of my campaigns on
- 9:38Speaker 2: and running for New York. One of the many issues
- 9:40Speaker 2: animal welfare at Mahatma Gandhi. You know, there will be
- 9:44Speaker 2: people who criticize him because they hate animals. He said
- 9:48Speaker 2: that a society that does not take care of its
- 9:50Speaker 2: animals does not take care of its people. And you
- 9:53Speaker 2: have seen how much time and energy we in the
- 9:56Speaker 2: Guardian Angels, with your help, have put into caring for
- 10:00Speaker 2: the homeless and the emotionally disturbed because we don't take
- 10:02Speaker 2: care of them, and we don't take care of our animals.
- 10:06Speaker 2: The abuse the dogs that are raised to fight and
- 10:10Speaker 2: kill and maim, and nothing is done to stop that.
- 10:15Speaker 2: As you mentioned when spading and neutering, it would go
- 10:17Speaker 2: a long way and keeping these many animals God's creatures
- 10:22Speaker 2: out of harm's way.
- 10:24Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and again that's the whole goalposts of everything.
- 10:28Speaker 3: You know, you don't want to have the breeder animals.
- 10:31Speaker 3: I mean, there's no reason to keep creating you know,
- 10:35Speaker 3: these you know, dogs and cats when the reality is
- 10:38Speaker 3: there's not enough home for them all together. So I
- 10:42Speaker 3: absolutely think that that has to stop right away. I mean,
- 10:44Speaker 3: you can't be having that go on.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Well, we'll be able to travel the visit with your
- 10:49Speaker 2: mother Beth, who just celebrated her birthday, who I believe
- 10:53Speaker 2: out in Bohemia really introduced you to the life of
- 10:57Speaker 2: people who dedicate themselves to animal Would I be correct
- 11:01Speaker 2: on that. Yeah.
- 11:02Speaker 3: My mom's like first job, believe it or not, when she, uh,
- 11:06Speaker 3: you know, got a job in Long Island was working
- 11:10Speaker 3: at an animal shelter, so you know, like a veterinarian office.
- 11:14Speaker 3: Rather so during the weekend when she would be working,
- 11:18Speaker 3: I would go in with her. So it was as
- 11:20Speaker 3: though they were all like I had a whole bunch
- 11:22Speaker 3: of cats and dogs that I could visit because they
- 11:24Speaker 3: were the ones who were sort of waiting in the
- 11:27Speaker 3: the kennels, like if either they were recovering or maybe
- 11:30Speaker 3: they were for adoption. So that was actually very cool.
- 11:33Speaker 3: I mean, And I also grew up with having a
- 11:35Speaker 3: dog and cats in the household, so you know, I'm
- 11:38Speaker 3: just very familiar with them in general. And yeah, I mean,
- 11:43Speaker 3: and you know, of course, growing up in Long Island
- 11:45Speaker 3: it's a lot more nature, so you know, you would
- 11:48Speaker 3: you just you know, you see things more often. Like
- 11:50Speaker 3: I had a neighbor next to me who had, believe
- 11:52Speaker 3: it or not, chickens and roosters and things like that,
- 11:56Speaker 3: like a little farm going on, so you know, it's
- 11:58Speaker 3: just a much more natural to see these animals.
- 12:01Speaker 2: Well, the defining moment for me with you and your
- 12:05Speaker 2: passion for animals was in that first campaign when I
- 12:09Speaker 2: ran against Eric Adams twenty twenty one, and I warned
- 12:12Speaker 2: everybody he would be corrupt and we would have chaos,
- 12:15Speaker 2: but nobody listened. About halfway through the campaign and you
- 12:19Speaker 2: were scrolling on the internet the death row list that
- 12:25Speaker 2: they put up from the Animal Care and Control the shelters,
- 12:29Speaker 2: because these are kill shelters, they are not no kill shelters.
- 12:33Speaker 2: And you said, I got to run to East New
- 12:36Speaker 2: York Clennon Boulevard to the animal shelter there that's now
- 12:40Speaker 2: closed to rescue this cat. And I remember you had
- 12:45Speaker 2: cold and they said, yeah, well we're opening five And
- 12:50Speaker 2: I said, Nancy, you can't go down there on your own.
- 12:53Speaker 2: I mean, that's right by Saint Fort Shanada's that's on
- 12:57Speaker 2: Linen Boulevard, that psychology.
- 13:00Speaker 4: No, you can't go there. That's oh no, that's Cyper Sells.
- 13:06Speaker 4: They have drive by shootings. I'm gonna go with you.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Yes, we got in the animal welfare van of the
- 13:13Speaker 2: Guardian Angels and we were driving halfway there. We were
- 13:16Speaker 2: on Woodhaven Boulevard. It was like two o'clock in the afternoon,
- 13:20Speaker 2: and they called you and just relate to our listeners
- 13:26Speaker 2: all throughout the Tri State area. In the world the
- 13:28Speaker 2: insensitivity of the people. They're knowing you were on your
- 13:31Speaker 2: way to rescue this cat that was on death row.
- 13:36Speaker 3: Yeah, so I had already basically secured the rescue of
- 13:40Speaker 3: this small kitten, and those are the ones that are,
- 13:44Speaker 3: believe it or not, first to be put down in
- 13:46Speaker 3: the shelters a lot of times because if you don't
- 13:48Speaker 3: have someone to bottle feed them, they you know, they
- 13:51Speaker 3: don't have full time staff like that. So we were
- 13:53Speaker 3: on our way and I got to call that the
- 13:57Speaker 3: medical team. Ultimately they decided, well, well, I don't think
- 14:00Speaker 3: this cat's gonna, you know, farewell, so we're just going
- 14:03Speaker 3: to euthanize it, like you know. And that to me
- 14:06Speaker 3: was incredible because when you adopt these cats, a lot
- 14:10Speaker 3: of times when they do have any potential medical issues,
- 14:13Speaker 3: they're not footing the bill for any of the medical care,
- 14:17Speaker 3: so it's whether it's on them to you know, relinquish
- 14:21Speaker 3: the animal. Knowing that any medical care you have to supply.
- 14:25Speaker 3: I mean, there's no cost to them to allow you
- 14:28Speaker 3: to take that animal home. So again they just decided, well,
- 14:31Speaker 3: we took a second look, and we don't really think
- 14:33Speaker 3: this this cat's gonna, you know, farewell, so we're just
- 14:35Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and euthanize it, knowing I was on
- 14:37Speaker 3: my way to get this cat. So that was really heartbreaking.
- 14:42Speaker 2: I remember, people need to know. My wife was crying
- 14:46Speaker 2: for days. She pulled the vehicle over and I vow
- 14:50Speaker 2: to you right then, I said, if I become the mayor,
- 14:53Speaker 2: this becomes a priority. Can you remember.
- 14:55Speaker 3: And then the other side note to that was because
- 14:59Speaker 3: you want to mention that story about what happened with
- 15:03Speaker 3: the animal care and control. Right away, they've pulled my
- 15:07Speaker 3: ability to actually get these animals from the shelter as
- 15:10Speaker 3: like a stick of to youth type moment, apparently because
- 15:14Speaker 3: they don't like when people tell the truth about what's
- 15:16Speaker 3: going on in the shelter system. So right away they
- 15:19Speaker 3: took me off the list of being able to adopt
- 15:20Speaker 3: these animals. So that was a real nice touch.
- 15:23Speaker 2: So to all of our critics out there, including the
- 15:26Speaker 2: President of the United States, I rememberless Maria Bartoloma. He
- 15:30Speaker 2: was on the show Fox Business in the White House
- 15:36Speaker 2: and he was railing against you and I for rescuing cats,
- 15:40Speaker 2: and if I was elected, they would be in Gracie Mansion.
- 15:44Speaker 2: And I'm saying to myself while I'm watching him almost
- 15:47Speaker 2: with great delight, attacking us, saying, excuse me, mister president,
- 15:52Speaker 2: you realize in the room you're in now was another
- 15:55Speaker 2: great Republican president called Teddy Roosevelt who had eighty animals
- 15:59Speaker 2: at the White House when he was president, dogs and
- 16:01Speaker 2: cats in the White House right where you're sitting now,
- 16:05Speaker 2: speaking to Maria Bartoloma. But of course he wouldn't care
- 16:10Speaker 2: about that. Who cares only about Donald Trump? Up next,
- 16:15Speaker 2: we got it. We have to have this conversation. It's
- 16:18Speaker 2: the lead story today about student loans garnishing. The United
- 16:23Speaker 2: States will bail out countries like Argentina, corrupt as they are,
- 16:28Speaker 2: but our country will not bail out those who are
- 16:32Speaker 2: in debt because of student loans. We'll get an update
- 16:36Speaker 2: from Nancy Sleews. We work our way right into Christmas
- 16:41Speaker 2: Day at your newfound station. A gift to all of
- 16:43Speaker 2: you seven to ten wor Talk Radio.
- 16:46Speaker 1: With Street crab literally Curtis Slaywad joined sevent ten WR
- 16:52Speaker 1: to guess those from Mark Samon.
- 16:58Speaker 2: At our Newfounds station seven to ten WR. For so
- 17:02Speaker 2: many of you, you don't need to go where you
- 17:04Speaker 2: used to listen to me or Nancy. I'll be here
- 17:09Speaker 2: till January. Second substitute for Marc Simone and I. I
- 17:13Speaker 2: love radio. When I was growing up, I didn't make
- 17:17Speaker 2: it through high school, got kicked out by the Jesuits
- 17:21Speaker 2: at Brooklyn Prep. They shine the boots on my backside.
- 17:23Speaker 2: I never looked back. It's pumping gas, packing shelves at
- 17:27Speaker 2: an AMP, and I remember listening to talk radio and
- 17:31Speaker 2: then King of Talk Radio Bob Grant at the old WMCA,
- 17:35Speaker 2: and then at nine wn W Allison Steele the Nightbird,
- 17:40Speaker 2: free form music radio. It was it could. It was
- 17:44Speaker 2: a mood elevator because talk radio can be a real downer.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Got to reach for the title and all in advil.
- 17:51Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just negativity, negativity. And so what my wife
- 17:56Speaker 2: Nancy has done for me is she knows she's working
- 17:58Speaker 2: all day. I'm working all day, and I'm in all
- 18:01Speaker 2: the places that most people don't want to go. Can
- 18:03Speaker 2: be pretty depressing. And she'll put on electronic dance music
- 18:08Speaker 2: for me when I get to the house with the kiddies.
- 18:12Speaker 2: You know, chain Smokers, our favorite Don't Let Me Down Paris.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Last night you were playing for me was great. But
- 18:19Speaker 2: you've also introduced me to songs and normally I would
- 18:22Speaker 2: never listen to like Justin Bieber with that song Stay
- 18:27Speaker 2: that video from Downtown LA that I'm familiar with. Wo wow,
- 18:31Speaker 2: that's great. That's a mood elevator. Then Miley Cyrus, I
- 18:34Speaker 2: would never listen to Miley Cyrus Midnight Sky. Oh, that's great.
- 18:40Speaker 2: Post Malone, I liked him, he was out of Syracuse Sunflower.
- 18:44Speaker 2: These all mood elevator's song. So boy, you really know
- 18:49Speaker 2: how to get my mood back into gee And mostly
- 18:53Speaker 2: it's with electronic dance music. And that's because you're of
- 18:56Speaker 2: a different generation than me. I'm a baby boomer, but
- 19:00Speaker 2: your generations of Millennials and Gen Zas have been just destroyed.
- 19:06Speaker 2: The American dream has been robbed from you if you
- 19:09Speaker 2: got sucked into these student loans. And now basically the
- 19:13Speaker 2: president the government is saying we're coming after you. If
- 19:17Speaker 2: you've defaulted, We're gonna take every nickel diamond penny. You
- 19:20Speaker 2: have a make We're gonna have a look underneath the uh,
- 19:24Speaker 2: the Castro convertible that you might be sleeping on. We're
- 19:28Speaker 2: gonna get you, my little pretty if it's the last
- 19:31Speaker 2: thing we do. Could you explain how this American dream
- 19:35Speaker 2: has been robbed from so many of your peers and
- 19:39Speaker 2: your generation.
- 19:42Speaker 3: I mean, i'd say just the excess of burdens student loans.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Uh.
- 19:49Speaker 3: That's that's the really most surprising part to me that
- 19:52Speaker 3: when I when I got out and you know again,
- 19:55Speaker 3: you're you're kind of going through the motions. It's you know,
- 19:58Speaker 3: it's it's kind of forced on you in a way
- 20:00Speaker 3: as you're going through you know, junior high high school,
- 20:03Speaker 3: like obviously you have to go to college. Like how
- 20:05Speaker 3: else would you expect to get any sort of job
- 20:08Speaker 3: of values that you're going to need to have in
- 20:10Speaker 3: the future. So, you know, and they're very quick to
- 20:15Speaker 3: throw paperwork in front of you, where, well this is
- 20:18Speaker 3: how you go.
- 20:18Speaker 5: You just sign you know.
- 20:19Speaker 3: It's like, you know, again, I think it's very hard
- 20:21Speaker 3: to comprehend when you're you know, like I was barely eighteen.
- 20:25Speaker 3: I think when I signed it, because I graduated, it
- 20:27Speaker 3: was July. You know, I turn eighteen July, and you know,
- 20:31Speaker 3: you're basically taking on this level of debt that is
- 20:35Speaker 3: really incomprehensible, and by the time you actually graduate from school.
- 20:40Speaker 3: What really surprised me was that the amount that I
- 20:42Speaker 3: owed was way more than what I even borrowed. So
- 20:46Speaker 3: you know, they funt end it with the interest, so
- 20:50Speaker 3: it'll take you, you know, years, like paying the normal
- 20:54Speaker 3: payment that you have to pay, it'll take you years
- 20:56Speaker 3: just to get down to what you initially borrowed in
- 20:58Speaker 3: the first place. And you know, they kind of have
- 21:02Speaker 3: it where it's you know, like sort of based a
- 21:04Speaker 3: little bit on your income, like the federal loans, at least,
- 21:06Speaker 3: you know, they try to be a little bit more
- 21:09Speaker 3: flexible in terms of what your salary is, so you know,
- 21:13Speaker 3: they'd have like they call it like income sensitive and
- 21:16Speaker 3: you know, just all based upon that. But the reality
- 21:19Speaker 3: is so anytime that you start to make a little
- 21:22Speaker 3: bit more money, the student loan increases, like, you know,
- 21:25Speaker 3: incredibly more so again, when I started working at the
- 21:28Speaker 3: law firm and I was making an okay salary the
- 21:30Speaker 3: first time, that's when the student loan And that's also
- 21:33Speaker 3: when the Obama care kicked in because I didn't have
- 21:36Speaker 3: health insurance. So all of a sudden, now I was
- 21:38Speaker 3: getting a penalty for not having the health insurance. And
- 21:41Speaker 3: I had this massive student loan every month. I mean,
- 21:43Speaker 3: you can bailu your fort to just live, just pay
- 21:45Speaker 3: your rent and pay your basic bills when you're looking
- 21:48Speaker 3: at things like that. I mean, I was paying like
- 21:49Speaker 3: twenty five hundred close of three thousand a month just
- 21:53Speaker 3: in student loans. I mean, and this is you know,
- 21:55Speaker 3: looking down like the line of knowing you're going to
- 21:59Speaker 3: have to be paying it for a decade or two,
- 22:01Speaker 3: you know, based on how much you ultimately owe. So
- 22:04Speaker 3: unfortunately I had to borrow a lot of money for everything,
- 22:08Speaker 3: and law school is just way expensive. So yeah, I
- 22:12Speaker 3: mean it's it's it's really tough to get started in
- 22:15Speaker 3: your life. When you're right off the bat, you're paying
- 22:18Speaker 3: you know, several grand.
- 22:19Speaker 2: A month, and so it makes you angry, makes you
- 22:22Speaker 2: angry that that dream that was promised you if you
- 22:25Speaker 2: did your four years, You graduate school, you get your degree,
- 22:28Speaker 2: you know, your financial analysts, CPA, a lawyer, whatever, you
- 22:33Speaker 2: do all of that, and now you're living in an
- 22:35Speaker 2: apartment still with three other people like you're back in
- 22:37Speaker 2: your dormitory in school.
- 22:40Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I yeah, thankfully I didn't have to
- 22:44Speaker 3: sort of go into that direction of having like multiple people,
- 22:48Speaker 3: but I always had like maybe one roommate possibly, Yeah,
- 22:52Speaker 3: I mean, but but again it's you know, you look
- 22:54Speaker 3: at the the costs for everything within New York City,
- 22:58Speaker 3: I mean. And the first thing too that blew my
- 23:00Speaker 3: mind was realizing that not only they're more expensive live
- 23:03Speaker 3: in New York City, but then when you do your taxes,
- 23:05Speaker 3: you're getting a city tax on top of that. Like wait, what,
- 23:08Speaker 3: Like it already costs so much money to live here
- 23:10Speaker 3: in the first place, and I'm not even sure what
- 23:12Speaker 3: I'm paying for.
- 23:13Speaker 2: Maybe some people from what you've just said, understand the
- 23:16Speaker 2: anger that led to the election of Zorahan Mandami, who
- 23:20Speaker 2: it was all about a cost of living affordability. And
- 23:24Speaker 2: then to hear our presidents say, if you vote for
- 23:27Speaker 2: Javier Milai of Argentina, my friend will bail out Argentina
- 23:33Speaker 2: for the twentieth time. These dead beats, we bail them out,
- 23:38Speaker 2: but won't even bail out people from this student loans
- 23:41Speaker 2: in the United States.
- 23:43Speaker 3: Unbelievabah, Like, I mean, I could see if you if
- 23:45Speaker 3: you're if you have the money if and again I
- 23:47Speaker 3: think they the disconnects too between the charges that they
- 23:53Speaker 3: have for you know, higher education to begin with, and
- 23:56Speaker 3: then the likelihood of getting a job that really sort
- 24:00Speaker 3: of fits the criteria to be able to pay that back. Like,
- 24:02Speaker 3: I don't think there's any ramifications for these higher educational
- 24:08Speaker 3: institutions to really I mean, they're not guaranteeing you jobs,
- 24:13Speaker 3: so you know, the best they can do is maybe
- 24:15Speaker 3: tell you, you know, try to like you know, sort
- 24:17Speaker 3: of gear you in the right direction, but you know,
- 24:19Speaker 3: to be putting so much money in for something that
- 24:21Speaker 3: you may or may not get down the road. I
- 24:24Speaker 3: you know, I feel like they do take advantage of
- 24:26Speaker 3: a lot of the young people out there. I always
- 24:29Speaker 3: thought when I was younger too, that, oh, the people
- 24:31Speaker 3: who straight out of school, when they just went into
- 24:34Speaker 3: a job so like you know, especially like the ones
- 24:36Speaker 3: that require more of like the technical skills like the
- 24:39Speaker 3: plumbing and things like that.
- 24:41Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well, that.
- 24:42Speaker 3: Those people aren't going that Like I had no idea
- 24:44Speaker 3: how much ahead of the curve that they were, because
- 24:46Speaker 3: right out the gate they have a skill that's you know,
- 24:50Speaker 3: that that kind of really less a test of time.
- 24:52Speaker 3: And then plus they don't have any of the student
- 24:54Speaker 3: loan debt, and they start making money years before you
- 24:56Speaker 3: even get a chance to start making money. So those
- 24:59Speaker 3: those people really know what they're doing out there.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Well, on that note, you have a chance to speak
- 25:03Speaker 2: to Nancy. The best thing that ever happened in my life,
- 25:06Speaker 2: my wife and yours truly right here at our new station,
- 25:10Speaker 2: our favorite to listen to, seven ten WOR at one
- 25:14Speaker 2: eight hundred three to two one zero seven ten. That's
- 25:17Speaker 2: one eight hundred three to two one zero seven.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Ten, Street Smart Straight Talk. Curtis Leewall guest host for
- 25:25Speaker 1: Mark Simone on sevent ten woar.
- 25:35Speaker 2: Two Great Christmas Presents broadcasting here on our new favorite station,
- 25:42Speaker 2: seven to ten WOR. The many of you are discovering
- 25:45Speaker 2: for the first time, I say we it's my wife, Nancy.
- 25:48Speaker 2: It is the best present that I've ever had, best
- 25:51Speaker 2: thing that ever happened in my life of seventy one years.
- 25:55Speaker 2: And she remains on the line. But it's time for
- 25:58Speaker 2: our listeners to be heard now and see let's go
- 26:01Speaker 2: to Madeleine, who's calling from the Bronx. Oh what a
- 26:06Speaker 2: great day it is Madeline.
- 26:09Speaker 6: Yes, especially because I'm talking to you and there I
- 26:12Speaker 6: remember you from I think nineteen seventy eight. That's for
- 26:17Speaker 6: but number four trained Rep Brigade. I always tell you
- 26:21Speaker 6: that we're not full of books here anyway.
- 26:24Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, if you can police,
- 26:27Speaker 2: hold on. You're coming in broken up, Crash, Let's see
- 26:30Speaker 2: what you can do. I'd hate to see if the
- 26:32Speaker 2: disconificator is preventing us from hearing folks from your borough,
- 26:37Speaker 2: the Bronx and the borough where I started the Guardian
- 26:39Speaker 2: Angels in nineteen seventy nine. On that note, while Crash
- 26:44Speaker 2: goes to work on that, let's go to Carlatto, who's
- 26:48Speaker 2: calling from Brooklyn. Your turn to be heard here at
- 26:51Speaker 2: seven ten wr Well.
- 26:54Speaker 7: How do you do it? Merry Christmas? And God bless
- 26:56Speaker 7: you for staying in the race, because if you order
- 26:59Speaker 7: went out, we were being down to one party, a
- 27:01Speaker 7: hard social and a thought social who could have turned hard.
- 27:05Speaker 7: And this is very serious because if you weren't dropped
- 27:08Speaker 7: out the way I look at it down, this is
- 27:10Speaker 7: a Crown Jule in New York. Down the road, the.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Same thing could happen. We are going to go into
- 27:15Speaker 3: one party this is very scary times.
- 27:18Speaker 7: The Marxists are here.
- 27:22Speaker 2: Let me explain, Carlotta, it's already here. When I return
- 27:27Speaker 2: Friday morning, I think I will be to have connected
- 27:31Speaker 2: all the dots of how Republican leadership through Congresswoman at
- 27:35Speaker 2: least Stephanic under the bus and created the pathway for
- 27:40Speaker 2: Bruce Blakeman eliminating a superstar. I mean, Republicans are the
- 27:47Speaker 2: worst enemy of Republicans in New York City and in
- 27:49Speaker 2: New York State. They do everything to help the Democrats
- 27:53Speaker 2: to keep it a one party system. And I saw
- 27:55Speaker 2: the grifter in chief last night. She was all over
- 27:59Speaker 2: New Yor York with Eric Adams Swaggerman with no plan. Oh,
- 28:03Speaker 2: they were having a love fest. And she was surrounded
- 28:08Speaker 2: by Republicans all day long who are making backroom deals. Oh,
- 28:16Speaker 2: you had better be listening Friday morning. Hopefully I will
- 28:20Speaker 2: have connected all the DUTs by then. Let's go if
- 28:23Speaker 2: we can to Lenny, who's calling from Staten Island. You're
- 28:28Speaker 2: turning to be heard here at seven ten wr Lenny.
- 28:32Speaker 5: Hey, Curtis, we know each other. Good to hear your
- 28:35Speaker 5: voice on the radio. And you gave me an early
- 28:37Speaker 5: Christmas present. Let me tell you my son is on
- 28:41Speaker 5: the DMZ in Korea. He just got promoted yesterday, the
- 28:44Speaker 5: sergeant staff sergeant Lenny, right, And that's why people listen
- 28:51Speaker 5: to you. You bring the real stuff to us by
- 28:55Speaker 5: mentioning our servicemen who cannot be home for this time
- 29:00Speaker 5: of year. It really it touched my heart and I
- 29:04Speaker 5: thank you very much for giving that shout out to
- 29:07Speaker 5: the servicemen that are away from their families this time
- 29:11Speaker 5: of the year. God bless you.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Thank you, Lenny, and to your son serving us there
- 29:16Speaker 2: in the DMZ. Remember that's a war that never ended
- 29:19Speaker 2: nineteen fifty three, still on there, separating South Korea from
- 29:25Speaker 2: the evil seed of Kim Jung mentally ill and the
- 29:28Speaker 2: crazies of North Korea. On that note, Nancy, as you
- 29:35Speaker 2: prepare for our swinging soiree through the Tri State area
- 29:39Speaker 2: members of your family, what was it like for you
- 29:44Speaker 2: growing up in Bohemia and Suffolk County looking forward at Christmas?
- 29:50Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, obviously it's I always enjoyed
- 29:54Speaker 3: Christmas growing up. My mom this years very into the tradition,
- 30:00Speaker 3: and you know, the Christmas tree, the outdoor decorations.
- 30:07Speaker 5: We would have.
- 30:07Speaker 3: You know, either people would come over. I mean mainly
- 30:10Speaker 3: it was always kind of hosted at our house to
- 30:12Speaker 3: some extent, so you know, I didn't really do a
- 30:15Speaker 3: lot of traveling to other family member's house. It was
- 30:17Speaker 3: just always you know, stationed at our house. And you know,
- 30:21Speaker 3: back then we used to have in the real winters,
- 30:23Speaker 3: so a lot of times there was snow, which is
- 30:25Speaker 3: always nice. And then being off of school as a kid,
- 30:28Speaker 3: you know, you can't go wrong with that either. So
- 30:30Speaker 3: it was always just a nice time out in Long
- 30:32Speaker 3: Island growing up.
- 30:33Speaker 2: And I'm wondering how many people listening to us in
- 30:36Speaker 2: the Tragity State area and beyond throughout the world on
- 30:40Speaker 2: the internet. At wor seven remember that last minute present
- 30:47Speaker 2: that either Mam or Dad or maybe your older brother
- 30:50Speaker 2: or sister would get you at the Hesh gas station,
- 30:55Speaker 2: which was the HESH truck, the hash car, you know,
- 31:00Speaker 2: a quickie. Many people would never go to Hesse because
- 31:03Speaker 2: it was considered low budget gasoline. Low budget. It wasn't
- 31:07Speaker 2: like Sinoco, you know, with all the five seven grades.
- 31:10Speaker 2: But they drive into Hesse where they wore the white
- 31:13Speaker 2: suits and it came out and pumpedy gas and they said, no, no,
- 31:17Speaker 2: not here for the gas and please don't put that
- 31:19Speaker 2: dirty squeegee on my window. I'm here for the Hess truck,
- 31:24Speaker 2: last minute present, and it's still available even though there
- 31:30Speaker 2: are no more Hest stations. Hessel, Murada, they had the
- 31:34Speaker 2: huge petro chemical plant and the refinery in New Jersey
- 31:39Speaker 2: along the Cancer Belt. When you're on a New Jersey
- 31:42Speaker 2: Turnpike and you're going south, once you pass Newark Airport,
- 31:47Speaker 2: which is always a dollar short in a day late
- 31:49Speaker 2: for everything, hit south DM boy. Then you look at
- 31:52Speaker 2: all the petro chemical plants, You look at all the
- 31:55Speaker 2: refineries that used to be Leon Hess's refinery. Who owned
- 31:59Speaker 2: the New York that's at one point.
- 32:01Speaker 3: Yeah, I never I never got a Hess truck, nor
- 32:03Speaker 3: did I give a Hess truck. But I would say
- 32:06Speaker 3: I always look forward to the stocking more than even
- 32:09Speaker 3: the presidence. You know, I didn't have like a lot
- 32:11Speaker 3: of presents, but to me, the stocking was the best part,
- 32:15Speaker 3: like going there and then seeing that it was all
- 32:17Speaker 3: filled up and there was always nice goodies in there.
- 32:19Speaker 3: So I was really a fan of the stocking.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Let's go if we can to George, who's calling your
- 32:26Speaker 2: turn to be heard here at seven ten w or George.
- 32:31Speaker 8: How are you, Curtis is George the core clerk. I
- 32:33Speaker 8: just wanted to tell you they did you bed in
- 32:36Speaker 8: one way. I don't want to keep bringing back the past.
- 32:38Speaker 8: Like Einstein said, only God could change the past. When
- 32:42Speaker 8: they said, you know about the Republican Party, you had
- 32:45Speaker 8: the real you had the seat, they gave it to you.
- 32:48Speaker 8: The fact nobody wanted to run against you, they gave
- 32:51Speaker 8: it to you, and that was very unfair. And also
- 32:54Speaker 8: about the guy at night, Lionel, he's a smart guy.
- 32:58Speaker 8: He's a great vocabulary in all that.
- 33:00Speaker 3: You know.
- 33:01Speaker 8: I have a statue in my backyard and I'm not
- 33:03Speaker 8: a school ball. It was a court clark for many years.
- 33:05Speaker 8: I'm a normal guy. I have a statue of Saint
- 33:08Speaker 8: Francis in my backyard. I feed birds, and Saint Francis said,
- 33:13Speaker 8: treat your animals like your brothers and your sisters. People
- 33:16Speaker 8: who don't like animals are weird. And that's you know,
- 33:19Speaker 8: people who people who did harm to animals, or half
- 33:25Speaker 8: of them when they used to come to court. I
- 33:27Speaker 8: used to read in their background they used to abuse
- 33:30Speaker 8: animals when they were a kid. I'm not saying Lionel
- 33:32Speaker 8: did that, and I also say one other thing, if
- 33:34Speaker 8: I could sure. This is just a suggestion, and Nancy's dad,
- 33:39Speaker 8: she should listen to this. You are a very popular
- 33:42Speaker 8: guy and in Brooklyn, and then I know you're not
- 33:45Speaker 8: going to do it. I try to call you a
- 33:47Speaker 8: few months ago or when things were getting hot for
- 33:49Speaker 8: mayor and said, who run for borough president in Brooklyn?
- 33:53Speaker 8: And this is why you have a say in the
- 33:55Speaker 8: Brooklyn Zoo, which is world class, the aquarium. The you're
- 33:59Speaker 8: half Polish, I know you are half Italian. The people
- 34:03Speaker 8: in Greenport, uh, green Point love you, even the yuppies.
- 34:07Speaker 8: They'll vote for you because you know the crime there.
- 34:10Speaker 8: The Russians will vote for you. The Hasidic will vote
- 34:13Speaker 8: for you. The people in Coney Island will vote for you,
- 34:16Speaker 8: even the Gumbas, most of them. The Italians will all
- 34:19Speaker 8: for you. Even the Gumbaugh gangsters will vot for you.
- 34:21Speaker 2: Well, well, let me let me step in one second here.
- 34:24Speaker 2: You were born in green Point to.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Nancy, Yeah, I was, Yeah, I was born in green Point.
- 34:33Speaker 2: You know.
- 34:33Speaker 3: I lived in Ridgewood for until I was about six
- 34:36Speaker 3: seven years old. That's before we went on to Long Island.
- 34:38Speaker 2: And you went to a Catholic school there where they
- 34:40Speaker 2: spoke Polish.
- 34:41Speaker 3: Right, Well, let's see, so they did speak pol but
- 34:45Speaker 3: it wasn't primarily Polish. I went to, you know, our
- 34:49Speaker 3: Lady of Miraculous Metal, so that was very you know,
- 34:53Speaker 3: like you had the nuns teaching type thing. I went to,
- 34:57Speaker 3: you know, and I went to I guess what the
- 34:59Speaker 3: I'm not even sure you called the equivalent of like
- 35:01Speaker 3: the preschool at this point they had Polish speaking there.
- 35:06Speaker 3: But yeah, in the actual Catholic school itself, it was
- 35:10Speaker 3: you know, definitely English, definitely English.
- 35:12Speaker 2: Well, George, the old Clark Court clerk, you could forget
- 35:16Speaker 2: about running for Brooklyn Boro president. All you do is
- 35:19Speaker 2: cut ribbons.
- 35:20Speaker 4: You do nothing. Most of these elected officials they're impotent.
- 35:26Speaker 4: They can do nothing. Oh boy, we're in for a ride.
- 35:32Speaker 2: Zara Mandami will be sworn in on January first by
- 35:36Speaker 2: Bernie the out the CACA Sanders originally from Brooklyn went
- 35:39Speaker 2: to Brooklyn the College and Tish James will be holding
- 35:45Speaker 2: the Bible and look, he's entitled to an opportunity to
- 35:50Speaker 2: put his agenda into effect. A grace period. Every person
- 35:54Speaker 2: who was elected mayor should have a grace period. I
- 35:57Speaker 2: know some of you are mumbling and grumbling. He won.
- 36:01Speaker 2: He kicked Cuomo's butt in the primary where Cuomo was
- 36:05Speaker 2: expecting a carnation, and then instead of going back to
- 36:09Speaker 2: his hovel and sliding under the rock in the Hamptons
- 36:12Speaker 2: with his billionaire friends, he decided to re emerge and say, well,
- 36:15Speaker 2: this time I'll do it better.
- 36:16Speaker 5: Ha.
- 36:17Speaker 2: How did that work out? And Republicans backed Cuomo destroyed
- 36:24Speaker 2: the party here in New York City. And when I
- 36:26Speaker 2: return on Friday, after visiting relatives on my wife side
- 36:33Speaker 2: all throughout the Tragy State area, I believe I will
- 36:36Speaker 2: have connected the dots and can tell you how Republicans
- 36:40Speaker 2: stabbed at least staphonic in the back. Oh yeah, Republicans
- 36:45Speaker 2: in New York State and New York City seemed to
- 36:48Speaker 2: be all gaga. Google for anyone who's a Democrat in
- 36:51Speaker 2: this case, the grifter in chief, Kathy Hoko