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Kate Middleton ‘relieved’ Meghan Markle skipping coronation. Andy Cohen drags Howie Mandel’s Tom Sandoval interview. Joe Alwyn lands new movie role after Taylor Swift breakup. · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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Speaker 1: Scalable advice spice Hellollolloallo. Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Nisha.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, drop Shooter, and it is Friday. It's
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Speaker 1: a special edition of the show. Our friend Corey is
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Speaker 1: off today because I am in DC still with my
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Speaker 1: dear friend Mindy Barnett, who has an amazing book that
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Speaker 1: you should all check out. It's called You Don't Need
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Speaker 1: to Be a Bitch to Be a Boss. Hello, Mindy,
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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Hill Rob, It's so amazing to
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Speaker 1: be here with beer. Let me tell you a little
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Speaker 1: bit about my friendship with Mindy. So Mindy and I
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Speaker 1: met several years ago when I was looking for a
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Speaker 1: publisher for my book and a friend of as a
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Speaker 1: mutual friend hooked us up and literally within maybe twenty minutes,
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Speaker 1: I got a book deal because of Mindy's kindness. So
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Speaker 1: thank you for that. I'm not sure I've ever said
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Speaker 1: thank you personally. And then, on top of that, because
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Speaker 1: my fairy godmother is amazing, Mindy also got us this
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Speaker 1: gig in DC talking at Georgetown University that we did yesterday.
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Speaker 1: We were pretty maybe I'm even inclined to go back
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Speaker 1: to school. Yeah, it felt like initially I had. Is
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Speaker 1: it called impostor syndrome and where you feel like you
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Speaker 1: shouldn't be out of place? I felt like Elwoods Havard,
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Speaker 1: you know this stuff. It's amazing in life, how much
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Speaker 1: you really do know the experience that you pick up.
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Speaker 1: It's so true. I mean, I'm actually in graduate school
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Speaker 1: and a lot of what we talk about is that
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Speaker 1: wife experience versus book experience. Thank you Georgetown University. Hey,
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Speaker 1: let's jump into the show. What time is it? My friends? Altogether, Mindy,
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Speaker 1: We have lots of audience participation on this show. So
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Speaker 1: when I say it's tea time, we all sing along.
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Speaker 1: What time is it? My friend? It is time? Thank
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Speaker 1: you very much. Big story at the top of the show.
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Speaker 1: So Kate Middleton was actually relieved that Meghan Marcole is
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Speaker 1: skipping the coronation. So Buckingham Palace has confirmed that Meghan
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Speaker 1: Markole won't be attending King Charles's coronation next month, and
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Speaker 1: reportedly at least one royal is relieved by this news.
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Speaker 1: That would be Kate Middleton, who is said to be
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Speaker 1: pleased that she won't have to face Megan come face
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Speaker 1: to face with her after all that she's said about
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Speaker 1: her in the book. Now, let's be clear here, Meghan
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Speaker 1: didn't say Harry did, although they are a pair. But
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Speaker 1: my sources are telling me that one person that's upset
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Speaker 1: about this is King Charles. You have to remember, he's
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Speaker 1: still their dad. He totally loves both his sons. He's
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Speaker 1: so happy, happy, happy that Harry's going, but upset that
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Speaker 1: Megan isn't going to be there. Meghan incidentally, is going
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Speaker 1: to be staying home in California with their children Archie,
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Speaker 1: Prince Archie and Princess Lillibit. They now officially have those titles.
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Speaker 1: Mindsiders in London are telling me they expect Harry will
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Speaker 1: be in and out. In fact, in London they've nicknamed
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Speaker 1: him Harry in a Hurry because he's going to be
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Speaker 1: hurrying in and then hurrying. Mindy, what do you think
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Speaker 1: about this? I don't think she should go because I
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Speaker 1: think she's basically kind of severed herself from the palace,
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Speaker 1: so why should she go for the happy times when
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Speaker 1: she doesn't want to be a part of what she
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Speaker 1: calls drama and all that other good stuff as well.
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Speaker 1: I think you make a really good point here, because
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Speaker 1: if she went, should be called a hypocrite career. I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: clearly there's a lot that's going on here. Sources actually
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Speaker 1: say that Meghan really weighed this very carefully. She thought
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Speaker 1: of the pros, she thought of the cons, And I
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Speaker 1: think that's a really good thing to do in life.
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Speaker 1: When I have to make a difficult decision, I often
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Speaker 1: pull out a piece of paper and I write the
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Speaker 1: good and the bad, and I see which one ultimately
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Speaker 1: wins the day. So I think Megan is making the
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Speaker 1: right decision. But what we care about on this show
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Speaker 1: is what do you think which brings us to our
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Speaker 1: polar the day? Prince Harry will attend Daddy King Charles's
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Speaker 1: coronation without Megan Markle. Are they making the right choice?
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Speaker 1: Take a vote on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice Rob.
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Speaker 1: A Facebook page is Naughty Gossip, and be sure to
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Speaker 1: check back tomorrow to hear your results. Haymandy, what are
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Speaker 1: you working on? All right? I have some really good
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Speaker 1: youth about Andy Cohen. He's dragging Howie Mandel's com Sandoval's interview.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this. This is so good. So Andy Cohen
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Speaker 1: laughed at Howe Mendel's interview with Tom saying that the
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Speaker 1: podcast host didn't do his homework. Quote. Cohen accused Howie
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Speaker 1: pf quote not knowing what he was getting himself into.
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Speaker 1: End quote when he spoke to Tom, Howie, you have
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Speaker 1: to be careful before you take a side. He continued
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Speaker 1: on Bravo, fans are very passionate. It's true. They are loyal, loyal,
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Speaker 1: loyal and superheated. Likely dragged Tom for his interview. Quote,
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Speaker 1: what a weird first interview, like the game show host,
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Speaker 1: She added, It's so strange and so off brand. What
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Speaker 1: an odd choice. It wasn't od choice, wasn't it? It
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Speaker 1: was this story a little bit weird, blown up. So
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Speaker 1: as a publicist, mindy, as well as an author, you've
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Speaker 1: represented a lot of people. If you were representing Tom,
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Speaker 1: who really is on the cover of newspapers at the moment,
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Speaker 1: all over the websites, all over the blogs, this was
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Speaker 1: an unusual choice to do it. How he actually explains
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Speaker 1: how it all happened. Yes, So he's basically saying, listen,
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Speaker 1: I don't watch Bernard pump rolls and I don't either.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I know what it is. I met
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Speaker 1: Tom at a wedding. He's a friend of a friend.
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Speaker 1: I saw a scandal wall thing going into this normal
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Speaker 1: news cycle and it was big. And then as for
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Speaker 1: claims by Andy that he didn't quote do his homework,
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Speaker 1: Mendell responded, I don't need to do homework. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: going to weaponize this information and challenge him on each thing.
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Speaker 1: It's not a deposition, it's a podcast, right, right, am
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Speaker 1: I right? He makes a really good point here that
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Speaker 1: Harry just had Tom on just to chat. Obviously it's
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Speaker 1: in the new citle. I do think that we've interviewed
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Speaker 1: a lot of people over our careers. I think sometimes
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Speaker 1: that not knowing everything give us a better interview because
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Speaker 1: it allows people in who are not just inside the
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Speaker 1: baseball crowd of this. So there's fans of Brother who
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Speaker 1: watch this show and know every single detail, and then
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Speaker 1: there's people like you and me, Mindy, who don't watch
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Speaker 1: the show religiously all at all. But I'm aware of
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Speaker 1: what this scandal is, so I thought it is weird
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Speaker 1: of Andy to go after Howe, although mindsders are telling
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Speaker 1: me what's really going on here is that Brother did
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Speaker 1: not approve this interview and he wanted the first interview,
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Speaker 1: and the fact he sat down with Howie Mandell and
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Speaker 1: usual choice. He could have been on the Today's Show.
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Speaker 1: He could have been on Jay. This is a huge story.
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Speaker 1: The factor ended up on how Is podcast is probably
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Speaker 1: what's going on. Hey. Moving along, Kelly Ripper is talking
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Speaker 1: about her marriage to Mark and now co hosting Live Together,
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Speaker 1: which they start on April seventeen. I cannot wait, can
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Speaker 1: not wait, so she said, to have Mark joined me
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Speaker 1: at that desk every day, it's like a dream come true.
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Speaker 1: She said, We're really very blessed, but it is going
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Speaker 1: to go off the rails. Mark said, I'm super, super grateful.
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Speaker 1: Kelly admitted when she first met Mark back in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety four, a casting director shared her a photograph of Mark.
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Speaker 1: He was a budding actor at the time, up for
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Speaker 1: a role opposite Kelly, and she said, I'm a very
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Speaker 1: practical person, but there was something about him. She said,
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Speaker 1: I was like, Oh my gosh, that's my person. This
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Speaker 1: is my husband, my future hubs. She was right. They'd
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Speaker 1: been married is a long time. Do you think they're
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Speaker 1: taking a risk working together? No, I don't because they
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Speaker 1: have worked together and he co hosts that show quite
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Speaker 1: a bit, and the chemistry is so strong and they
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Speaker 1: all like that production company together, and I think they
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Speaker 1: have the greatest relationship and shoos the new podcast have
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Speaker 1: you heard of? Ye? Yes, Yeah, I like these two together.
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Speaker 1: I've interviewed him several times. He's so good looking. They
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Speaker 1: both are so cute. I'm excited about it. I want
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Speaker 1: to guess those mornings when he's in the doghouse, when
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Speaker 1: he hasn't taken the trash out, when he's been snoring
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Speaker 1: too loud. I hope it all plays out on TV.
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Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to it. We'll bring you the ratings,
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Speaker 1: so I'll get the ratings earlier, within the first couple
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Speaker 1: of days, so let's see if this is a huge
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Speaker 1: rating success. I'm going to predict right now we'll save
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Speaker 1: the tape that the first show is going to be massive.
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Speaker 1: I agree, I definitely do. I wonder who they're going
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Speaker 1: to have it on. I don't even think they need
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Speaker 1: a guest. I think I just watched these two for
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Speaker 1: an hour. I just want to see these too for
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Speaker 1: I know. I love the host child so into it. Hey, congratulations,
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Speaker 1: end quickly before we go to break. Joe Alwyn, who
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Speaker 1: is Taylor Swift's x NOW, has landed a new movie role.
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Speaker 1: So this is just a few days after the breakup
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Speaker 1: was announced. The British actor who's thirty two, has landed
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Speaker 1: a role in the upcoming film The Brutalist, who, according
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Speaker 1: to a new press release, is going to be working
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Speaker 1: alongside Academy Award winner Adrian Brody Guy Pers and it's
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Speaker 1: already started filming. He's in Hungary now. Taylor too, she's
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Speaker 1: busy on her tour. We spotted her just a few
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Speaker 1: days ago in New York City. Now, these two are
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Speaker 1: very private about their relationships. But I do think throwing
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Speaker 1: yourself into a project into work after a breakup is
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Speaker 1: a good idea. What threatment, I don't think. So why
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Speaker 1: not a breakup throwing yourself back into work because you
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Speaker 1: need to mourn the relationship. It's good and bad. She's
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Speaker 1: going to stay busy and she's going to distract herself,
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Speaker 1: hopefully in a productive way. But I think she does
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Speaker 1: need to mourn. I think she needs to be human
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Speaker 1: being for a little bit, and just like and they
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Speaker 1: kind of bask in that moment so that you can
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Speaker 1: go back out there and be one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 1: percentful of Yeah. I love different perspectives of this. I
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Speaker 1: never thought about that. Maybe they do need a minute
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Speaker 1: off to mourn. I keep myself busy, which maybe covers
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Speaker 1: up the fact that I don't want to deal with
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Speaker 1: all those emotions, but I do too rop and it's
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Speaker 1: like a drug, right, Yeah, No, it's better than a
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Speaker 1: destructive like because some people go on benders, they drink
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Speaker 1: too much, they eat too much, they do all sorts
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Speaker 1: of other things. So I guess working is better than that.
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Speaker 1: But I think you're probably right when Mindy, you've convinced
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Speaker 1: me here that maybe this isn't such a unidea after all.
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Speaker 1: Let us know what you think. We're going to take
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Speaker 1: a quick break and we will be right back. Welcome back.
10:48
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure I'm from. Mindy was still in DC.
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Speaker 1: It is beautiful here. I love it here. We missed
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Speaker 1: the cherry blossom. It's such an amazing city. I came
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Speaker 1: down by trade a couple of days ago, and the
11:01
Speaker 1: minute you walk out of Union Station you see the
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Speaker 1: dome of the Capitol. It looks like a movie that's
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Speaker 1: a Hollywood back lot, but no, it's here in DC.
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Speaker 1: Next time we come into we have to spend more
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Speaker 1: time so we can do some too uristy things instead
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Speaker 1: of work, work quick. Let's jump right back in. Where
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Speaker 1: were we Let's get to the poles. So Tom from
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Speaker 1: Vanda Pump Rules blindsided Bravo with this new interview. There
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Speaker 1: was a report in the Sun the Bravo did not
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Speaker 1: know he was doing this. This was not an approved
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Speaker 1: interview by Bravo. Bravo runs all their talents, that PR
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Speaker 1: department at Bravo with a really really strict hand. You
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Speaker 1: have to get permission from Bravo to do interviews. It's
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Speaker 1: in your contract. You have to do all the interviews
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Speaker 1: they want. But if you have a friend or if
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Speaker 1: you have a show you want to get on and
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Speaker 1: it's not Bravo approved, you cannot do it. So I think,
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Speaker 1: here Tom doing how I caught everybody by surprise. At
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Speaker 1: least that's what the Sun is saying. And they do
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Speaker 1: have these PR strata years. They did not want this
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Speaker 1: interview to happen until after the reunion, the first conversation
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Speaker 1: about this to be on Bravo. So I don't think
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Speaker 1: how his podcast has probably hurt. But what hasn't made
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Speaker 1: them very worried is our other loose Cannons is a
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Speaker 1: housewife now going to pop up on a show that
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Speaker 1: isn't helpful to brother. So they're very angry about this.
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Speaker 1: Our question was he might be fined. They sometimes knock
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Speaker 1: money out of your salary. Really, if you I know
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Speaker 1: a housewife who did an unapproved show, it wasn't mine,
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Speaker 1: so don't be angry. But she did another approved show
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Speaker 1: and she had money doctor out of her salary. They
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Speaker 1: were furious. So our question is should he be fired?
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Speaker 1: I know this is a really tough question. Should he
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Speaker 1: be fired? Part of me is like, if you sign
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Speaker 1: a contract and you work for a company, you have
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Speaker 1: to play by the rules. Me and you would get
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Speaker 1: fired for this if we broke. So let's have a
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Speaker 1: look at the results. Forty percent said yes, So the
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Speaker 1: majority say no, we have to go. If you don't
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Speaker 1: forget to vote on today's pole Twitter pay Eat Johant,
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Speaker 1: naughty Nice Rob or our Facebook pay which is naught.
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Speaker 1: He goes in, but I'm a sure to check back
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Speaker 1: on Monday to hear your results. And now it's time
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Speaker 1: for the nicest of the day. Oh, I love this story.
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Speaker 1: This is so good. All right, So Jeremy shared that
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Speaker 1: his mom wants to light his snowplow on fire after
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Speaker 1: it ran him over. But he will not allow it.
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Speaker 1: Rob He's saying, no, it's a snow cat. It's a
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Speaker 1: snow cat. Oh, God forbid the snow cat. And it's
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Speaker 1: necessity on the property because he says they gets so
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Speaker 1: much snow up there. Renner said of the need of
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Speaker 1: his plow at his Reno, Nevada house. So he needs it.
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Speaker 1: He needs the plow. He needs it. I might need
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Speaker 1: it too if we ever get snow. My mom says,
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Speaker 1: quote to light it on fire and have a big
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Speaker 1: party lighting it on fire, like a big bonfire of
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Speaker 1: the snowplow. But the thing is amazing and I love it.
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Speaker 1: It's a necessity. I just gotta learn to drive that battery.
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Speaker 1: So I love He's going to sense a humor about it.
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Speaker 1: And he last lost his life that I did get
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Speaker 1: put back in. His eye popped out, so thankfully he
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Speaker 1: still think I have both of his eyes. But this
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Speaker 1: is so interesting. I totally get it. My mom would
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Speaker 1: want to burn to the ground anything that hurt me.
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Speaker 1: But he's saying no, he's going to keep it. I'm
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Speaker 1: not sure I could keep it. This was interesting. We
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Speaker 1: spoke about this not so long ago, when Jay Leno
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Speaker 1: trouble with his cars. Remember Jorge Clooney too, like he
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Speaker 1: got in trouble with his motorbike and he got rid
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Speaker 1: of his bike. George Clooney has never ever been on
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Speaker 1: a motorcycle since that accident. I don't think I would
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Speaker 1: want to drive this thing ever again, but Jeremy says
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Speaker 1: he does. So we're wishing you the best that Jeremy.
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Speaker 1: If this thing does accidentally catch on fire, I would
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Speaker 1: look towards your mom. I agree, and get your snow
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Speaker 1: shovels now, get your snow shuffles out. Hey, let's do
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Speaker 1: and naughties the day. Naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty, naughty. Melissa
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Speaker 1: Gorgo who's on the Real Housewives of New Jersey, and
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Speaker 1: Andy Cohen are getting called out by fans every testy
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Speaker 1: exchange they had on Watch What Happens Live, So brother fans,
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Speaker 1: they couldn't help but to notice that Melissa and Andy
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Speaker 1: got in a real testy exchange on his show was live,
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Speaker 1: and Andy said, but he does not think he's going
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Speaker 1: to get a resolution between all the drama between Melissa
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Speaker 1: and her sister in lure, Teresa Judici. During the upcoming reunion.
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Speaker 1: Gorga said, that's fair because you're not a therapist, right,
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Speaker 1: You're not certified. Andy was visibly taken back by this
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Speaker 1: and said, okay, let's not question my credentials. And Melissa
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Speaker 1: didn't let it go. She said, I'm just saying and
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Speaker 1: he said, no, after sixteen years of thing doing this,
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Speaker 1: I think I have some idea of what I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: So he really took offense by this. You know, I
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Speaker 1: like sometimes when you say something quite innocently but it
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Speaker 1: upsets somebody else. Yeah, you've got to read the room.
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Speaker 1: You've got to read I say stuff all the time
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Speaker 1: and it's quite naughty, and so I've upset people that
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Speaker 1: I don't mean to. And when I want to upset somebody,
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Speaker 1: they don't care. So you sort of can't win here.
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Speaker 1: But it's interesting that Melissa's you're not a therapist. And
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Speaker 1: I think Andy, you do a brilliant job at hosting
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Speaker 1: these shows, these reunion shows. You do a great job
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Speaker 1: at hosting your own show. But I don't know. I
16:34
Speaker 1: think Melissa's onto something here. You shouldn't be given relationship advice.
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Speaker 1: You can give TV advice. You're a brilliant producer. Andy,
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Speaker 1: But you're not a therapist. You're not. What do you
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Speaker 1: think about that, Mindy? I agree completely. You have to
16:46
Speaker 1: take input from others and know more about maybe what's
16:48
Speaker 1: going on in the family dynamics and things like that. Yeah,
16:51
Speaker 1: because it's not just a reality show, it's a real family,
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Speaker 1: and Andy might give great advice on how to make
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Speaker 1: this a really delicious, really scandalous, really naughty TV show.
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Speaker 1: He does, but it also too is a real family
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Speaker 1: and they I think they need some professional help. Hey,
17:06
Speaker 1: let's end with a moment of rob You go, rub.
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Speaker 1: I stole that from Oprah Indy, So for fifteen twenty minutes,
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Speaker 1: we love to gossip about celebrities, but for a moment,
17:14
Speaker 1: we're just a little bit more deep. Today's moment of
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Speaker 1: rub When you can't unfriend them and you can't cut
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Speaker 1: them out of your life, I think I'm talking about
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Speaker 1: family members here. The only answer is empathy. So when
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Speaker 1: someone's really rude to you, and someone's mean to you
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Speaker 1: and you just can't get rid of them. We always say,
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Speaker 1: if they can't be nice, walk away, But what happens
17:37
Speaker 1: when you can't walk away? Instead of getting hurt, get
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Speaker 1: empathetic when they can't show kindness, you must. This does
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Speaker 1: not excuse what they are doing for one second, but
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Speaker 1: it does explain it. That's a really good advice. That's
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Speaker 1: just coming from a psychology graduates to it. I think
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Speaker 1: that's really good advice. No, it is. You need to
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Speaker 1: kind of set your boundaries, but know what you're dealing with. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: when I have people in my life that I just
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Speaker 1: can't cut out, and let's be honest, we're friends here
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Speaker 1: on the Naughty ben I Show, it's really family members.
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Speaker 1: When I've got family members and I can't, I can't
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Speaker 1: walk away from them. They're in my family. I can
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Speaker 1: protect myself, but I found that empathy is my superpower.
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Speaker 1: It's my magic cape. And the memer they are to you,
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Speaker 1: the more pain they are in themselves. That is it
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Speaker 1: for today. Thank you so much for listening to the
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Speaker 1: Norty butN Ice with Rob and Mindy Show. Mindy, thank
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Speaker 1: you for joining us here, and once again, thank you
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