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Episode 51 Part III feat. The BrushBack Crew - Buyers, Sellers, and what could happen at the trade deadline · Sports Avenue Twisted Podcast

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  And talk about the firm seller. Who do you think?
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  Who do you think is going to be the biggest sellers at this
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  trade deadline? Benetini's gone.
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  Are they White Sox? They got Cavill too, so they'll
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  get rid of a couple guys. I mean, the other teams that
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  should be sellers don't really have anything to sell.
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  I mean, I guess Washington could be.
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  I guess Washington could be and Washington has pieces.
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  But like, if I'm Washington, I'm not giving up those pieces
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  because I think that a lot of pieces we have could be
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  something, right? If I'm banking on that, I can't
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  give up those pieces, but like, we should sell.
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  And then you look at Pittsburgh, like, who's Pittsburgh going to
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  really give up that people truly want right now?
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  Like, yeah, you're going to have O'Neill, but like, besides that,
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  like who else? Like you don't.
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  Nobody's going to. Want.
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  Maybe that's been. Thrown out there, but not but
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  not having a down year, but do you get are you going to get the
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  return that you really? Want from.
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  Them down, so they've been trying to get rid of them.
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  Yeah, I see. What I'm saying I.
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  Think he's going to go? Yeah, I think.
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  That, but that's what I'm saying, like you're not getting
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  anything back for him though. So like, is that really being a
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  seller, like somebody's been going to get a great thing and
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  you're not going to get anything for it kind of thing?
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  Like you see what I'm saying? Like for me, that's not really
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  that's almost like a minor league kind of trade.
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  Like if you're putting it on that type of level, unless they
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  get like an actual haul back from that, they should.
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  But on the same point, like I said, who else on the Pirates
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  besides that? Like you have schemes, you have
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  Jared, but they're not giving up those pieces.
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  On Tommy John, he's out. But that's what I'm saying like
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  you could package Jared with somebody else if that's what
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  you're really trying to do well. But like, let me let.
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  Me give you betnor stats so this year they're.
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  Good numbers. So his numbers are so every when
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  he got, he got sent down and he came back.
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  He's playing out of his mind. He has a 2.19 ERA.
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  Let me look at his strikeout rate.
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  His strikeout rate, he's been better.
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  I know that for a fact. 16 saves, 37 innings pitched.
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  I know they've been trying to trade him for years, but I don't
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  know what's his value right now. So I'm curious to see because
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  like, relief pitchers are volatile, right?
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  And you look at any pitcher that's been pictured, well, like
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  you look at Jordan Romano, right?
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  For example, he goes to Philadelphia and I don't know,
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  Toronto knew something about Romano and they need pitching
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  bat, they need a really closer bat, right.
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  So he just wasn't the same pitcher and I don't know if his
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  his arm is is an issue or whatever.
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  It is the injury he had last year.
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  I think it kind of it's, I don't think he's back to like truly
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  being a hundred 100% yet. I think when he gets back he'll
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  be good. But I think that's kind of with
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  him, Yeah. But I think like back to the
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  firm sell, I mean that the age, right?
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  The athletics have to be sellers.
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  There's there's a couple names has been mentioned.
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  I think there's several. You know, a lot of guys on their
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  team, they're they're, they're not going to want to trade.
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  Exactly. Yeah, I'm with you.
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  I'm with you on that. Same with the like Rockies.
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  But like, then then again, they got guys that you would don't
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  want. Yeah, right.
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  There's nobody really, I think the only team that's going to
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  have the best chance, the best chance to be sellers that are
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  going to be able to get some things back to go ahead and
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  truly like make their team better and be I guess considered
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  sellers are going to be the Orioles.
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  Like they can make their team so much better.
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  If they are sellers and I'm pretty sure they're going
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  they're going to be they should be firm sellers.
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  But if they are like the things they can get back for the guys
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  they have in the farm system, they have like, I think that's I
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  think that's your if people are going to try to find stuff like
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  the Orioles are probably your best bet because they have
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  things that everybody wants. Yeah.
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  That's true. I agree.
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  What I What about Miami? Miami's got, Miami's got the
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  pitching, Miami's got a couple of pitchers, but like you can
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  still like. Cabrera and and Sandy there,
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  yeah. I mean and then and then.
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  Who's close Anthony Bed or Anthony Bender is another guy
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  like? The Bender And then who's there
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  closer right now? God, what's his name?
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  I. Just saw that Henriquez guy.
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  Yeah. He was my teammate last year, He
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  was my teammate last year with the with the Twins.
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  Like he's a good kid too. Like I think like they're
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  pitching like you can go down to Miami and get a couple guys down
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  there. But yeah, I mean, hitting wise,
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  there's nobody for the Marlins. You really won't so.
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  Sanchez is the only one that comes up.
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  I know that's been talked about, but I don't know what's his
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  value. They're not trading cost hours,
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  no. Way no.
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  You know, with what he's been doing this year, so I mean.
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  I mean the the Marlins, what's name does have a 66 ERA right
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  now like Sam. Randy Yeah.
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  You know what I'm saying? So better.
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  He's been better though, I feel. Like, yeah, yeah.
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  But so the other kid, Yuri Perez, are they going to try to
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  give him the torch to, like, lead that pitcher staff?
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  Yeah. He he might be the guy.
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  Yeah. I mean they.
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  They're the guy. No, that you can't.
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  Trade you don't. You can't trade you.
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  Don't they try to trade them, I mean.
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  I get a lot back for Sandy still though 'cause I mean, Sandy
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  stuff is still good. Yeah.
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  You just figure that Sandys just coming off of Yeah.
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  So I'm saying you're figuring Sandys still working out the
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  kinks from all his stuff that he's been going through.
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  You know, he goes, he goes to the right place again.
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  He you send him to the Dodgers or send him to the Brewers or
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  something like that with the pitching coaches and stuff that
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  they that they're helping these guys with.
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  You never know what he turns into.
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  Yeah, you can send him to Pete up the you can send him to Pete
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  up in Toronto and see what happens.
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  Like that'd be something crazy to do.
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  Yeah. Edward Cabrera, Edward Edward
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  Cabrera is another name that's been thrown out there, too.
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  I know that they've been trying to.
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  I know teams have been looking for him.
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  He throws hard, man. Like he doesn't he throw like a
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  96 mop per hour change up or something like that.
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  I was like, goodness gracious, man, what, what, what is what is
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  it? Does he have some sort of bionic
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  arm or something? Man, I know the Cubs have been
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  interesting. Yeah, I mean, the Cubs, Cubs had
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  interest in both of them, right? I know they're looking for
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  pitching the Cubs, right? So I'm sure like Peter Bendix
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  knowing the guy, like he's going to build around.
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  I think the three guys he mentioned was Yuri Perez,
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  Augusta Ramirez and Kyle Storage goes with the three for sure.
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  And then he's going to work his way through like.
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  He's got some guys that they're not going to touch either.
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  Yeah, like you. Just mentioned and The thing is
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  that he's trying to build like the Rays, he came from the Rays
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  organization. I mean, that's what they're
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  trying to do like with the ownership, like they're trying
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  to get, you know, cost effective, high, high prospect
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  talent, guys who could try to win while they're, you know,
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  cheap, right? They say so I mean that that's
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  what the Rays do, right? So, and that's why they hired a
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  guy like him. And I like what they're doing.
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  I do, I like, I like what they're doing.
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  They they, they have a hell of a team.
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  So why the Raiders don't have a World Series yet?
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  That's true. You're not wrong about that.
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  Yeah, that's a good point. Kevin the Brewers, right, and
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  Seattle, I think those. Are I'm just saying all?
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  Right. Yeah, that's true.
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  You're not wrong about that. Didn't we miss any other teams?
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  Nationals. Marlins, White Sox, I know Luis
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  Roberts, they're trying to trade on this trade deadline because
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  he has a team option for 20 million after this year, so.
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  I think people are asking for Benetini more than they ask for.
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  Luis yeah, I yeah, I I could see that too.
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  Ben Attendee, but. I know.
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  I know the teams trust Roberts. That's what I'm saying.
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  Like, I don't know if his, like if his effort level is, you
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  know, I'm saying from time to time that's the that's the same
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  thing when I think about O'Neil Cruz, like you don't know what
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  you might get, but I literally just seen a video of O'Neil Cruz
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  scoring from first base on a single, the left one field on a
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  steal. Like, you know what I'm saying?
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  So it's like, yeah, you never, you just don't know what you're
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  going to get. And do teams trust that, you
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  know, obviously we know that's a down year for robber.
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  He's been 2O2 right now or 2O2O5, whatever it is, but he's
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  been low twos and you know, he's he was supposed to be like the
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  Mike, like the next Mike Trout ish type player.
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  Like, you know, I'm saying he just kind of regressed a little
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  bit. But but you know, look at look
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  at where the team is going though.
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  Like I think if he'll thrive in the in the in the place to where
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  he got some guys, you know, I'm saying he's comfortable with.
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  I look at that team now the the White Sox, and I don't really
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  think he has a lot of guys that that push him over there is
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  like, yeah, Mikado, yeah, yeah. Jose Abreu, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  He had a good, he had a good like, you know, familiar Latino
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  group around him. But there were guys like, you
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  know, I'm saying so yeah, I can see him go somewhere, but just
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  don't know, man. I mean, the only, the only like
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  strong place I can think of is the Mets, you know, but.
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  Philly's been linked to him, too.
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  They've been linked to them. Yeah, Philly, Philadelphia,
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  Philadelphia is looking for a bat in it reliever.
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  Yeah, I mean so, but. He wouldn't.
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  And another thing I think about too, like will he be able to,
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  will he be able to change positions?
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  I mean. He go from left to right.
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  Well, I know he's a center fielder, but will he be?
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  Will he be OK going to left to right?
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  Well, Castiano says defensively, he's not good at right field,
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  right? So yeah.
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  So so he'll be able to go to right field and give give
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  what's. That can't give me DH.
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  You can't give me DH because it's swarper.
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  Right. Swarper almost got 40, you know.
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  Right you got Schwarber has to stay at left field because who's
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  who's DH ING for the right now? It's still Harper.
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  Or no, no Schwarber's full time DH ING.
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  Yeah, I saw play left field today or other day or.
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  I mean they might switch off with him and.
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  Yeah, they might be switching off with them to.
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  Give a day, day break. That doesn't Cassianos go back
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  to the infield? Does he go play first base
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  'cause we know he came to the big leagues as a third baseman
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  so he can play new? There.
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  You go. No, I know Philadelphia's been
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  looking. I know that I know that they're
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  not going to get the Hall, but I know Chris gets the GM of the
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  the White Sox have been aggressive getting prospects of
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  return. And I like what the White Sox
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  are doing. They're starting to find some
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  foundation. It's going to take another
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  couple years for them to to be where they want to be.
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  But I think they're building the right way, right.
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  So I think Savali will get traded too.
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  I believe Adrian Hauser is probably another name and man
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  that trade for Savali for, for what's his name?
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  Andrew Vaughn. Andrew Vaughn is found a new
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  home man in Milwaukee. I don't know.
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  I don't know. Yeah.
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  He's got his thing over there, man.
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  Man, you went the third. Player man, yeah, he's a good
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  player. I wonder what happened.
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  You just don't give her your your number #2 overall.
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  I'm telling change of sceneries are real.
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  It's real, it's real. I mean, look at I mean there's
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  so many players you can mention that that's been traded to
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  different different. I mean, look at the Yankees.
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  Some of the guys like for example, Sonny Gray didn't like
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  New York. I don't know what was going on.
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  Goes to goes to Cincinnati, becomes a real good pitcher
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  again. I mean, who is another one?
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  Jordan Montgomery is another one.
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  He pitched well until, you know, he got injured and all that
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  reason this past this year. So it's like Luis Roberts might
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  be a change of scenery type of guy.
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  I don't know if it's a risky, if teams feel comfortable going
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  after OK, better. 10 is an interesting case.
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  He's under control till 27 I believe.
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  So they would have to eat some of that contract, right.
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  So and and the thing you know, what's one thing about the White
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  Sox people don't realize? Those are the only two guys that
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  are under contract. That's it.
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  No, they have nobody under control like besides pre ARB
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  guys, right? Or guys under arbitration.
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  But they have no contracts besides those two, which is
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  which they fascinates me because what are they long term?
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  Are they going to spend finally? Like are they going to go big
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  with the new own ownership transitioning after 29?
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  That's one thing I think you got to keep an eye on with the White
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  Sox, right? So did we miss in any other
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  names? Athletics, Baltimore, We pretty
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  much covered everything. Braids.
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  Yeah, yeah, I think we covered everything there.
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  All right, Rob. Well, let's let's get to the
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  buyers and some of the buyers and who are the buyers at this
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  trade deadline and, and what are your summer predictions of, of
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  where guys might end up or, you know, just if you have a good
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  fit for somebody, throw it out there.
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  But let's talk about, you know, the surefire contenders and guys
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  that which teams you think are going to go off.
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  I think. Go ahead.
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  Go ahead, Jay. I'm gonna say, obviously we know
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  the Dodgers and the Padres are going all in.
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  No, it's actually Dodgers always have to like they it's just
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  part. That's just part of their.
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  DNA. Yeah, Yeah, they have to like
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  the Dodgers have to. Padres are in that mode where
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  they kind of have to, you know, they're on a little bit of, you
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  know, financial constraint like to a little bit.
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  But Yankees, same way they're making moves now.
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  But again, they're making small moves and they get the fan base
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  is going to be pissed off if they don't make a big enough
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  move to fill a void where they have a better chance to win the
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  World Series than they did last year.
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  So those 3 for sure you look at and then the Blue Jays have to
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  be, they have to be buyers with how they are like knowing the
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  division they're in, like. We have to reward that team.
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  Yeah, you have to right now. You have to you have to say that
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  they have to be, they definitely have to be buyers.
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  God, I want Houstons gotta be too, right?
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  Like Houstons got some holes down there.
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  That's one thing. That's one thing we haven't
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  talked about a lot. That's what the one thing we
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  haven't talked a lot about. So talk.
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  About Houston where they where they need to because they have
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  been going through a plethora of injuries they have Pena who
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  should be back Jordan he hasn't been playing like he's been
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  injured majority of the year parades looks like he's off they
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  might need to look for a bat too right and then they.
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  For sure need to look for. A bat and then 18 pitchers on
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  the aisle, which is insane to think like I predicted them to
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  win the division. I still think they win the
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  division knowing their like their pedigree of them building
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  a winning culture. That's always been their model.
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  What do they need to address to home?
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  Because I do think the Rangers and the Mariners are going to be
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  buyers too. So we're like those three teams
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  are are firm competitors and it's only four games apart
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  within the three, so. I think honestly, they need, I
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  feel like they need a, they need a starting pitcher.
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  I need, think they need a rotation arm.
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  And then, you know, their outfield's pretty locked.
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  I think they might need a utility guy, but like a power
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  hitting bench utility guy, maybe not somebody that because like
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  you said, Penny's coming back. They got du Bond, they got
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  Singleton, they got Walker. I think they need a guy that can
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  fill it and like give him some more thumb off the bench.
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  Honestly, I feel like probably a lefty bat.
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  Honestly, they need a lefty swinger.
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  They they're right-handed heavy. So like by a lefty utility power
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  bat. You know who comes to mind is
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  Willie Castro. Yeah, Willie, you're really
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  late. To him too.
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  Yeah. You know what's another name
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  that's been thrown out there? I don't know if if he can stay
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  healthy and come back to Brandon Lau.
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  I think he has like a single option.
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  Yeah, I play second base. I know of tube doesn't play more
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  second base. They move around at left field,
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  DH and second base. So Brandon Lau has been
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  mentioned in recent terms. Yeah, Castro makes a lot of
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  sense. I could.
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  I could see that actually. I saw that Suarez was linked to
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  them too the other day. Didn't some some reporter?
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  Francis Moore merits would say that I think somebody else said
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  that, but there's too many teams are good that that's going to be
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  a bidding war that's going. To be, yeah, everybody's going
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  to be, you know, stepping around on him.
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  I'm just, I, I mean, they do need a bat.
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  I mean, we've, we've established that like I, I, I think there's
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  no way that, that they're going to, you know, I mean, yes,
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  they've kept it up so far this year, but they definitely need a
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  bat. I mean, you know what, I'm
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  looking at this list right now, the big bat that I mean I will
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  go off of because. You got the list.
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  I don't think they're, I don't think that.
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  I don't think the Rays are gonna get a Yandy just because there's
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  still 500. So I mean, he, he's got 18
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  homers. They're not gonna, they're not
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  gonna. They're not gonna give.
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  Bro, bro what? I got it right here.
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  We got Josh, Josh Rojas. Yeah.
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  Where did you play right now? The White Sox.
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  He's with the White Sox. That's what I'm saying.
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  That's a low key trade that they can have that filled the voids
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  for them and then they can go spend more money on a rotation
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  arm to go try to get Sandy or Joe Ryan or one of those guys.
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  You know they can put more into that man.
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  Yeah, he won't cost a lot. Or you.
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  Or you package something together with the Orioles where
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  you get Charlie and. Ryan o'hearn.
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  Or or or. Would you?
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  I don't think. They're going to give up
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  o'hearn. I don't think they give up
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  o'hearn. See who's on.
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  I don't think they give up on. I think it could be.
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  Cedric. Oh, it could.
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  Yeah, I was about to say it could be Charlie and.
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  Cedric. Cedric for years too.
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  They could be Charlie and Ced. It could be Charlie and Ced.
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  But more Warren Morn would be a cheap buy for because the the
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  way the pick the sellers market is like teams would want to get
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  a moron because like obviously the experiences.
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  So I mean, I could see a reunion there.
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  He's pitched there before. So he knows what what's it like
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  the environment and all. So he would be more comfortable
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  than than in Baltimore. I mean he would it fits
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  perfectly there. I mean, I mean, there's so many
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  teams that fit where more in could fit, man.
• 18:53
  Like you, you can even mention Boston that could go get more
• 18:58
  in, or you could mention even San Francisco Padres.
• 19:02
  Like I mean Padres make a lot of sense too depending.
• 19:06
  Who? How?
• 19:08
  What if they went and did this? What if they got Charlie and
• 19:18
  Colton and then moved Jose back to the infield, moved Mauricio
• 19:22
  to 3rd and kept paying it short? I mean, there's from, I mean,
• 19:30
  Mike Elias used to be the assistant.
• 19:34
  Yeah, just to have another lefty back.
• 19:37
  Oh man, if they go man. That's that that would know.
• 19:43
  He is, but he's he's he's such a prime bounce back candidate to
• 19:48
  act Tony. Yeah, no, that's.
• 19:52
  In Houston, will. Oh my God, yeah.
• 19:56
  That would you know, he played at Sam Houston State too, right?
• 19:59
  So. So he's been there.
• 20:00
  He knows that. He knows the state, right?
• 20:04
  Yeah. Yeah, I know.
• 20:05
  That's a perfect fit. Well, I I wouldn't even.
• 20:08
  Think that they'd be considering trading Colton Kauser?
• 20:11
  That's like. It would.
• 20:13
  It would. It would take a lot.
• 20:15
  Down year, Well, I'm saying 7 and down year, you could be
• 20:18
  like, hey, we'll take Colton or said like either one works for
• 20:22
  them at that point. You see what I'm saying?
• 20:24
  Yeah, they can do the same with both.
• 20:26
  It's just if you're the Orioles, like, who do you?
• 20:31
  I mean, they're both having down years, but who do you see as
• 20:35
  being the better fit? Yeah, Colton's.
• 20:39
  Colton's younger and has more thumb, but does he bounce back
• 20:42
  or do you trust that said it's going to be around and do what
• 20:45
  he's been doing his whole career?
• 20:47
  Like you know what I mean? You know, you know, you know, I
• 20:50
  thought one team, if Felix Batista was healthy, I thought
• 20:54
  if if if he was healthy, I he's he's not going to be traded,
• 20:58
  right. So if he was, I thought
• 21:01
  Philadelphia and Baltimore would have been trade great trade
• 21:04
  partners, right? Like I could have seen him going
• 21:07
  over there. They need a power left-handed
• 21:10
  power bat. They have Boreos has a lot of
• 21:12
  bats, right? So I and they would they would
• 21:15
  give up a lot to go get him right.
• 21:17
  So I mean, knowing Dave Dombrowski, knowing Philadelphia
• 21:21
  like they're they're another all in team, right?
• 21:23
  Looking at that team that's structured right now with Bryce
• 21:27
  Harper, Kyle Schwarz free agent, Romuto's free agent after this
• 21:30
  year. Alec Bom is hurt.
• 21:32
  Apparently they've been linked to swords too and they still
• 21:35
  have Trey Turner out. What's that Marsh, Brandon Marsh
• 21:40
  prices like they're still Philadelphia there.
• 21:43
  It's them in the Mets in that division, right.
• 21:45
  So I'm curious to see how much they're going to go in, right?
• 21:51
  Because they are as aggressive as any team in baseball too,
• 21:56
  right? So, yeah, I mean, this is going
• 22:00
  to be a complete like this is a seller's market, right?
• 22:04
  And every team is looking at a situation where they can try to
• 22:07
  buy, right? That's been, but that's relevant
• 22:11
  right now and trying to add, add players and think about it like,
• 22:16
  oh man, do you think Seattle will make another move?
• 22:23
  Yeah, I think they have to. Yeah, yeah, I think so too.
• 22:27
  They got, I mean, they already got it.
• 22:28
  They got, they made a deal with a hitter.
• 22:29
  I mean, they got it. They got to get a pitcher now.
• 22:32
  Yeah, well. I mean, even though they already
• 22:34
  got good pitching, you know, I'm saying, I mean you can never
• 22:37
  have more pitching, you know, I'm saying you can always get
• 22:41
  have actually, you know, I can feel like they can deal somebody
• 22:46
  too out there bullpen just make it look a little upgrade, you
• 22:48
  know. I could see that, I know that I.
• 22:54
  Mean the whole but the whole system they got is like they
• 22:57
  had. That's another, that's another
• 22:58
  organization that has a crap ton of players.
• 23:02
  You know, I'm saying in their system, because they're, I think
• 23:04
  they're ranked number, they're top three in this minor league
• 23:07
  system. At least top five middle.
• 23:09
  Yeah, I like like they have guys, but they're not that far
• 23:13
  away. I think they're another year or
• 23:14
  two away. You know, and this is one thing
• 23:17
  Seattle needs to do is that Cal Raleigh is having an all time
• 23:23
  career like he he he is playing at a level we haven't seen in a
• 23:29
  long, long time. He's been.
• 23:32
  Like Catcher, that's man, we're talking.
• 23:35
  That's the type shit. Like we're, we're going like
• 23:38
  we're we're talking all time. That's what I'm saying.
• 23:40
  Like we're talking about all time grades that that type of
• 23:43
  year, like leads a league in home runs the guys on page to
• 23:46
  hit what, 60 or somewhere around there?
• 23:48
  It's insane, right? So. 40 now I think. 41 He had
• 23:52
  another one earlier today. Another one today.
• 23:54
  Yeah, he had another one today. So you would have to think.
• 23:59
  I mean, they're four games out of out of the division.
• 24:02
  I mean, it's there. I mean, it all depends what
• 24:04
  Houston does too, like and Texas is even smelling blood.
• 24:08
  They've been on a run lately, too.
• 24:10
  So, and, and that that staff, Texas staff is.
• 24:16
  Is unbelievable right now. That's what I'm saying.
• 24:17
  They they need that. They need bats.
• 24:20
  Yeah, Texas needs bats. Who could they go after?
• 24:24
  That's that's the thing. Ozuna.
• 24:28
  Yeah, Ozuna will be used. That who else today they had
• 24:36
  there's a whole bunch of bats that's.
• 24:39
  What team are you talking about, Frozen?
• 24:41
  Texas. Rangers.
• 24:43
  Oh, Texas. OK, because apparently he
• 24:46
  doesn't want to wave his no trade to go to Seattle.
• 24:49
  But yeah, I I can see why I wouldn't find him.
• 24:52
  I don't want to go to Seattle. Either no, I wouldn't go to
• 24:54
  Seattle either. You Henry Schwartz, His name has
• 24:57
  been out there. Laura's new bar.
• 25:05
  I don't know what Saint Louis does there.
• 25:06
  I've mentioned a couple names because those names have been
• 25:08
  thrown out there too. And also Ryan Helsley's name has
• 25:11
  been out there. His name has been mentioned.
• 25:13
  I could see Louise Roberts going to Texas.
• 25:15
  I could see it too. I can see that now makes sense.
• 25:21
  Yeah, I could. I could see Louise Roberts going
• 25:24
  there. They they could, they could use
• 25:25
  a reliever as well, I think. I mean, who does it, right?
• 25:29
  Like any team. Yeah.
• 25:31
  Like, how do you look at the markets with these relief
• 25:35
  pitchers? Because a lot of names are
• 25:37
  thrown out there. The Twins relievers have been
• 25:38
  thrown out there. I know Toronto's looking for
• 25:41
  relievers. It may be a starting pitcher,
• 25:43
  but I mean, their rotation is starting to play well.
• 25:45
  Like Eric lowers the unsung hero in that rotation, right?
• 25:50
  Like, I don't know. I don't know what Toronto does.
• 25:53
  Like that division itself is such like it's like so, so like
• 25:58
  they fight each other in that division like Toronto, New York,
• 26:00
  Boston, even Tampa too, you could say too, right?
• 26:03
  So like they all have the same need as relief pitching.
• 26:09
  And looking at the markets right now, you look at you look at the
• 26:16
  Twins, for example, they have all the pitching in there.
• 26:19
  Does Mason Miller get traded? I don't think so.
• 26:23
  But I mean that's that's not true I.
• 26:25
  Don't think he. Does either.
• 26:27
  The amount of the amount of like players they would have to get
• 26:33
  back from Ace Miller would be ungodly and for a reliever to
• 26:37
  try to get that much back would it wouldn't make sense.
• 26:40
  So I don't think, I don't see that happening.
• 26:43
  Yeah, I can. I know.
• 26:45
  Toronto looking for multiple relievers I mean alright Yumi
• 26:49
  Garcia's hurt I know Jeff hoffman's been there closer he's
• 26:53
  he's been here he's been well he's been better lately for sure
• 26:59
  they do need a guy who could try to fill in the closest spot when
• 27:02
  Hoffman's not used right so I. Would say, I would say kidling,
• 27:07
  but I mean they're close to 500 bro and and Boston's doing good.
• 27:12
  So now you got Chapman that's like there.
• 27:14
  But then you can you just try to look for other people like I
• 27:19
  can't say Emmanuel Class A with Cleveland because they're.
• 27:23
  Close to 500. You know, I'm saying like those
• 27:25
  teams, I think those teams that they're close to 500 and they're
• 27:28
  in the the mixer. I don't think they're going to
• 27:30
  give up anybody like that, especially in the bullpen.
• 27:32
  And we know how much of A premium it is.
• 27:36
  Oh, I mean, what's this guy Seth Orson?
• 27:43
  Seth Hulverson from Colorado and Jake Burger.
• 27:45
  I mean. Maybe, maybe, maybe that.
• 27:47
  I mean, but we're looking at teams that got obviously
• 27:52
  Bernard, but Bernard, Oh no, man.
• 27:57
  Like these teams like yeah, go get rid of Count Finnegan.
• 28:03
  Would you though? He got a four, he got a he's one
• 28:11
  and four with a 4-5 and 19 saves and 25 chances.
• 28:20
  That's one right there I can look at like because everybody
• 28:22
  else are above him or whatever. I mean, obviously they got
• 28:25
  saved. Dimmer, dimmer, dimmer.
• 28:27
  Good teams like these teams are in contention.
• 28:30
  You know, 500. Teams, I can see that.
• 28:38
  So what teams do you figure will benefit the most from this trade
• 28:42
  deadline? We're on this topic of talking
• 28:45
  about some of the the guys that could be moved around.
• 28:47
  What are what are some of the teams that you think will
• 28:51
  benefit the most from making the trades that they make?
• 29:01
  I think help or hurt, I think Toronto interesting 'cause they
• 29:08
  need to find the piece that's going to fit their team and help
• 29:11
  them get over the hump and win a playoff series.
• 29:15
  Fair, you're right. Right, that's that's a big thing
• 29:22
  is winning that playoff series if they haven't been able.
• 29:24
  To so I think Toronto and then I think, I think whoever makes the
• 29:33
  biggest move out of the NL Central for those two guys, for
• 29:37
  the Cubs of the Brewers, that's going to be who to pit, who's
• 29:40
  going to, who's going to win, who's going to win the division,
• 29:44
  whoever makes a bigger move out of those two.
• 29:47
  I got some. You got Philly making one.
• 29:51
  I got Philly making it, making a bullpen, like making making a
• 29:55
  real real big a high name bullpen because you were
• 30:00
  Alvarado. I mean, he got suspended and
• 30:03
  they're they're gonna need some, they're gonna need some back end
• 30:05
  of that bullpen. They're gonna need some help
• 30:09
  going against, you know, New York, I think.
• 30:12
  They already went find Robertson right now.
• 30:16
  Yeah, they're gonna add more for sure.
• 30:22
  Yeah, their bullpen, their bullpens was the issue.
• 30:25
  Like I said, their offense. They've been playing better
• 30:28
  offense lately too. I mean, yeah, but I do think
• 30:32
  Dave Dombrowski is going to be crazy this trade deadline.
• 30:35
  Like like, like I think Zach Wheeler already said like he's
• 30:39
  he's going to retire after 27, I believe, right?
• 30:42
  Bryce Harper is not getting any younger, right?
• 30:44
  He's going to be 33 this year. So these guys are not getting
• 30:47
  any younger. So they got to maximize these
• 30:49
  opportunities while they can, right?
• 30:52
  Because you can only give give that chance, right?
• 30:56
  So. Right.
• 31:00
  What about? What about the Mets?
• 31:03
  Oh, that's for sure gonna they're gonna try to retool.
• 31:05
  I mean, they just made a they just made a trade just now
• 31:08
  again. I mean, and and one of my ex
• 31:10
  roommates, Oscar Brazovan has been throwing the ball.
• 31:14
  OK lately. You know, I'm saying.
• 31:16
  So they I mean, I mean, are they all, are they looking for
• 31:19
  upgrade in the in the bullpen? Absolutely always looking for
• 31:22
  upgrade. I think that their star power
• 31:26
  starting to come together. The key pieces are starting to
• 31:29
  play together pretty good. But one or 211 bullpen.
• 31:34
  I mean, I don't know, but I like how does how how how Clay Holmes
• 31:38
  been thrown. Clay Holmes been doing pretty
• 31:40
  good. Clay Holmes have been pretty
• 31:43
  decent. I mean, he's been there.
• 31:45
  Decent. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 31:46
  But he's a book. I mean, he was a bullpen guy, he
• 31:48
  said. He succeeded in the bullpen.
• 31:57
  I'm just trying to think care. I'm just trying to think of who
• 32:01
  the Mets are really going to go after.
• 32:04
  Starting pitching maybe? As I was saying, they no, they
• 32:06
  need rotation help, but like who could like again, the best
• 32:10
  rotation guys that they can have for them, I think for their team
• 32:13
  is in their division to a certain extent, but like they
• 32:16
  they should they have to go after Joe.
• 32:18
  I think you know who honestly would be possibly another good
• 32:23
  fit over there that would be sneaky.
• 32:26
  That would probably be a low cost is them getting Chris
• 32:29
  Paddick. Woo woo.
• 32:34
  That's a good ride. I didn't.
• 32:35
  Nobody has even. Yeah.
• 32:36
  Yeah, he just do. The other day in LA he did, he
• 32:39
  did. He did.
• 32:40
  He win the other day in LA. Yeah, I did.
• 32:43
  That's a good name. He he has the stuff.
• 32:46
  Is this the command? If he can work a little bit,
• 32:48
  It's it's all pitching, pitching coaches, right?
• 32:50
  Like if you have the right pitcher coach that could come
• 32:53
  you could work with like then then you could benefit from
• 32:55
  that. Yeah.
• 32:56
  Chris Paddock, huh. You know, I was thinking like
• 32:59
  could could you see the Twins like do a package deal with one
• 33:04
  of those names? I know Joe Ryan.
• 33:06
  I think it's a separate name that they're not going to pack.
• 33:09
  Yeah. I think if they package
• 33:11
  somebody, if they made a package would would be enticing for them
• 33:15
  and would be enticing from somebody else to get out of
• 33:18
  them. If you package Joe and Willie or
• 33:22
  possibly Griffin and Willie. I could see the Dodgers pot
• 33:27
  Padres. I see the thing about the Padres
• 33:30
  is that there's been rumors about trading guys from their
• 33:33
  main roster and they're trying to get some assets and try to
• 33:38
  see if they could try to upgraded some sort of way.
• 33:41
  Like, you know, AJ Preler is one of the most great, so creative
• 33:45
  guys I. I could see, well, I'm just
• 33:48
  thinking about the Twins and I'm thinking like, if you if you're
• 33:52
  the Astros, you could go after Joe and Willie and like try to
• 33:56
  line that up and that would make a lot of sense.
• 34:00
  But if you're the Dodgers, like what are the are the Dodgers
• 34:03
  looking for starters? Are they looking for relievers
• 34:06
  more right now? You know what I mean?
• 34:07
  They're. Looking.
• 34:09
  Like the Yeah I. Just they're looking at both.
• 34:11
  I think they're looking up bigger Duster made.
• 34:13
  That's what I'm saying. And the and the Dodgers have
• 34:15
  such an overflow of everything. It's like all they're going to
• 34:18
  be really be doing is just adding pieces to an already
• 34:22
  great team that are just like, hey, you just have to fit in and
• 34:25
  do your job. Like pretty much.
• 34:27
  So I mean, I really don't think the doggy, the Dodgers just need
• 34:29
  everybody to get healthy and then they can kind of figure
• 34:33
  that thing like completely out. I think the Dodgers are really
• 34:36
  scary. I told my I told some people the
• 34:39
  other day, I was like, the Dodgers really just kind of
• 34:42
  piece everything together because they know they're just
• 34:44
  so much better than everybody else.
• 34:46
  They kind of piece it together to the playoffs and then they
• 34:47
  just figure out who's the best guys they have and put them
• 34:50
  together for the playoff run. Yeah, I could.
• 34:55
  I could see that, you know that like you said, pitching is a
• 34:57
  need is is a demand in in this trade deadline.
• 35:00
  And I think teams are waiting for the prices to go down as the
• 35:05
  trade deadline approaches. And some people believe that
• 35:08
  too, right? So.
• 35:09
  I'm looking at this right now. It says Joe Kelly's throwing for
• 35:12
  the Dodgers. So if Joe Kelly's have like near
• 35:16
  what Joe Kelly normally is and he throws for the Dodgers and
• 35:20
  he's back to somewhat normal, that takes a piece off the board
• 35:23
  for them right there that they would otherwise need to.
• 35:28
  Does he have, does he still have what it takes still?
• 35:30
  Because he has a pitch to all year, right?
• 35:32
  So I know that. Joe Kelly is crazy enough and
• 35:35
  good enough where it doesn't matter.
• 35:37
  Like he's always got what it takes.
• 35:40
  Right. No, I get that.
• 35:43
  I'm just trying to think here because like I know the Cubs are
• 35:47
  going to be all in, that's for sure.
• 35:50
  Detroit, like where does Detroit stay?
• 35:52
  Like do they go? They have the assets to do it
• 35:54
  too, if they choose to upgrade, But I think they need a starting
• 35:58
  pitcher, maybe some relief help, maybe a bat too.
• 36:03
  If you look at the way their lineup is constructed, right?
• 36:05
  So I could see Baltimore and Detroit.
• 36:11
  So being being the Baltimore is going to be firm sellers, man,
• 36:16
  like it's crazy, right, Like they're they're they're the team
• 36:21
  that, you know, teams would want to go get players they want if
• 36:25
  and then some if they choose to right.
• 36:27
  So Arizona too, I think so I don't know there is there any
• 36:32
  other teams that we missed out that that could go all in or no?
• 36:40
  I think, I really think. Baltimore, I think Baltimore
• 36:43
  probably they're going to get rid of, don't get rid of Mullins
• 36:46
  for sure. OK.
• 36:48
  Either Mullins or O'hearn. I think they can get rid of
• 36:51
  o'hearn too. I can see o'hearn too.
• 36:54
  They're all all the ones. There so.
• 36:56
  Yeah, yeah. Mullins or O'hearn maybe.
• 37:02
  Yeah, yeah, Mullins O'hearn for sure.
• 37:07
  Sir Anthony Dominguez is another name that's out there more in
• 37:10
  Sergamo. Those are the guys that could
• 37:12
  think of that could stick itself and if Mount Castle was.
• 37:17
  Helsley Helsley's in there. Too I, I, I would love for the
• 37:22
  Jays to go get a guy like Ryan Helsley.
• 37:24
  So that's. The guy I want, man.
• 37:26
  Right there. Ryan Helsing.
• 37:28
  I mean, they did a couple years ago getting Jordan Hicks from
• 37:33
  from Saint Louis. So I could see another type of
• 37:35
  deal like that for a rental. Right.
• 37:40
  Yeah, I could see that. I know Toronto's looking for
• 37:42
  really pitching help. I know Pierce Johnson's another
• 37:46
  name that's been linked to a couple teams.
• 37:49
  That's that's a good name. That's a good player too.
• 37:51
  Yeah, he's under control. I think next year club option.
• 37:54
  So yeah, I, I think, I mean, Toronto could go all in if they
• 37:59
  want it, but I, I don't, I don't know how because their team is
• 38:02
  so constructed so well, the way they're built and they're
• 38:05
  getting guys to come back too, right?
• 38:07
  Like, oh, I just, I'm just curious, like I know New York is
• 38:11
  New York, right? Boston can do it, right.
• 38:14
  So, yeah, at the end of the day, man, I do think they're going to
• 38:19
  be some teams that could benefit from from this trade.
• 38:22
  And you have to, right, given the way that the the state of
• 38:25
  the league is going, it's wide open this year, right.
• 38:28
  So yeah, absolutely. I don't.
• 38:30
  Think it's going to be, I don't think it's going to be too like
• 38:32
  too crazy. Like, like I said, it's going to
• 38:34
  be some really, really low, low budget from the teams that are
• 38:40
  close to 500. Yeah, yeah, I don't think, I
• 38:43
  don't think it's going to be too crazy, but I think it's going to
• 38:45
  be some upgrades. So it's going to be a lot more
• 38:47
  upgrades than dumping to say that.
• 38:49
  Yeah, that's for sure. All right, so let's.