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The Late Debate | 15 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait, we late bait. Wonderful to have your company.
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  Speaker 2: I'm James MacPerson with Caleb Bond and Caroline Marcus.
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  Speaker 1: Caroline, did you enjoy a beautiful Sydney day today?
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  Speaker 3: I actually did. I went down to the Newish fish markets.
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  Speaker 1: It's dunning nice.
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  Speaker 3: Enjoyed some fresh seafood.
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  Speaker 2: You would have been working hard all day caliber I
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  Speaker 2: was no time to enjoy the weather.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no, I can still enjoy the weather.
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  Speaker 5: With the balcony door open, looking at the harbor and
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  Speaker 5: letting the breeze come in.
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  Speaker 4: It was quite enjoyable.
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  Speaker 5: I have to say, though, I must note we just
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  Speaker 5: saw that clip of Joe Biden inviting this black man
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  Speaker 5: up on the He actually looks like Barack Obama. I'm
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  Speaker 5: going to give Biden a leaf pass on this one
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  Speaker 5: because I thought that was a pretty good ringer for us.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, I reckon it was pretty close from
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  Speaker 2: a distance, I think, Biden, if you're squinting, that was
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  Speaker 2: like the most cogent thing Biden said in the long term.
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  Speaker 1: Very good.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Here's what's coming up on the late debate tonight.
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  Speaker 2: The Coalition plans to deport seventy seven thousand people living
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  Speaker 2: illegally in Australia, but the government accused them of being extremists.
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  Speaker 2: The unholy row between Donald Trump and the Pope escalates,
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  Speaker 2: with the Italian Prime Minister being dragged into it, and
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  Speaker 2: Sydney is set to get its first new cathedral.
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  Speaker 1: In one hundred years.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a look at how the design measures up
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  Speaker 2: to other cathedrals around the world.
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  Speaker 1: All of that shortly, but at first.
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  Speaker 2: Victorian Premier Justinto Allen has appointed the state's first ever
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  Speaker 2: Minister for Men and Boys. Frankston MP paul Edbrooke will
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  Speaker 2: take on the newly created role. It'll be his job
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  Speaker 2: to tackle men's health and to work out why half
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  Speaker 2: the population occasionally be half behaves like you know, half
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  Speaker 2: the population in a sign of just how seriously labor
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  Speaker 2: are taking men's health. The Minister for Men will also
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  Speaker 2: be Minister for Consumer Affairs, Minister for Renters and Minister
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  Speaker 2: for cost of Living, because nothing says we care about
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  Speaker 2: men's health quite like bundling it with tenancy disputes and
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  Speaker 2: grocery prices. Now, this is not the first time just
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  Speaker 2: sin To Allen has used the levers of government to
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  Speaker 2: try to pull men into shape. Two years ago, she
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  Speaker 2: appointed Tim Richardson as Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavioral Change,
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  Speaker 2: a title that sounds less like a public office and
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  Speaker 2: more like a screet pamphlet handed out in waiting rooms
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  Speaker 2: with uncomfortable lighting. Now we have a Minister for men
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  Speaker 2: to go with the Minister for women. But this is Victoria.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm betting we'll have a Minister for those who
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  Speaker 2: identifies neither men nor women in three two one.
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  Speaker 1: Here's a suggestion. What if we don't have a Minister
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  Speaker 1: for men and boys?
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  Speaker 2: What if we just all agree to stop running men
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  Speaker 2: down and to stop treating masculinity like it's a design
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  Speaker 2: flow in need of government intervention.
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  Speaker 3: Caroline, Wow, what a concept that would be.
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  Speaker 6: Indeed, but I have a feeling that this Minister for
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  Speaker 6: Men is going to do exactly the opposite. And I'll
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  Speaker 6: tell you why, gentlemen, because nine newspapers asked him about
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  Speaker 6: his new portfolio, and they did an entire piece that
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  Speaker 6: was called why this a new Man's Minister is going
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  Speaker 6: to be taking on the manisphere And it quotes this
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  Speaker 6: new in the article, it says ed Brookes said the
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  Speaker 6: new role included looking at the impact of right wing
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  Speaker 6: influencers who have been accused of promoting dangerous and hateful
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  Speaker 6: views about women online. And the minister was even asked
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  Speaker 6: about this Louis Thurux documentary that's on Netflix at the
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  Speaker 6: moment called Inside the Manisphere, and he said he'd watched
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  Speaker 6: it and it was quite concerning, and he said, they
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  Speaker 6: are having these are the manisphere, the male influencers. We're
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  Speaker 6: talking about people like Andrew Tate here and that type
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  Speaker 6: of person they are having, for want of a better word,
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  Speaker 6: and influence on young Victorian men and it's definitely unhealthy.
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  Speaker 3: So these are the kinds.
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  Speaker 6: Of issues they're going to be tackling. It's Internet personalities
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  Speaker 6: and what kind of impact, especially from the evil right wing.
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  Speaker 3: Now I'm no fan of Andrew Tate and the.
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  Speaker 6: Rest of those people like HS Tiki Taki. He's someone
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  Speaker 6: some British and fluer who's in this series as.
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  Speaker 3: Well, but I think it's a bit of a joke.
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  Speaker 6: No, he's he's No, there's another one who is who
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  Speaker 6: did convert to Islam as well, who's I can't remember
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  Speaker 6: his name, Sneako.
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  Speaker 3: I think it HS. You can see we're had fled
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  Speaker 3: the UK.
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  Speaker 6: We're getting off track here, fled the UK after having
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  Speaker 6: a car crash and was harding out in Spain, pushing
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  Speaker 6: cryptocurrency and pimping out only fans models. So that's the
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  Speaker 6: type of guy he was, and that's the main threat
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  Speaker 6: to the young men and boys of Victoria. It sounds
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  Speaker 6: like this minister, this new Minister for men, is saying, now,
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  Speaker 6: I don't have a problem with the idea. I think
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  Speaker 6: there's a minister for women, there should be a Minister
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  Speaker 6: for men. But I hope it tackles the real issues
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  Speaker 6: that men are facing, which includes very high suicide rates,
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  Speaker 6: issues with family violence has been a real problem in
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  Speaker 6: this country as well.
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  Speaker 3: But it doesn't for.
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  Speaker 6: Create this idea that all manner, evil and toxic masculinity
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  Speaker 6: is used as the frame with which the whole world
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  Speaker 6: is viewed. So if it doesn't do that, then I'm
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  Speaker 6: all for it. But it doesn't give me a great
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  Speaker 6: confidence these first.
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  Speaker 4: And I agree with you on that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, this bloke may well be a bit of
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  Speaker 5: a wet lettuce leaf and a squib and talk about
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  Speaker 5: all the wrong things, but I think the idea there
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  Speaker 5: is merit in the idea of a Minister for men.
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  Speaker 5: Because you mentioned the problems that men face. For instance,
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  Speaker 5: you mentioned suicide. They're three times more likely to die
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  Speaker 5: by suicide, and they lose potential years of life at
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  Speaker 5: a rate seventy percent higher than women. They're more likely
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  Speaker 5: to misuse and abuse illicit drugs. They're more likely to
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  Speaker 5: abuse alcohol and tobacco. They make up the majority of
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  Speaker 5: homeless people. They make up more than ninety percent of
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  Speaker 5: deaths in the workplace. They're two point six times more
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  Speaker 5: likely to die from an injury than women. The death
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  Speaker 5: rate for cancer for men is fifty eight percent high
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  Speaker 5: than it is for women. The risk of heart disease
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  Speaker 5: is much higher than it is for women because men
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  Speaker 5: don't have estrogen, And in every single non gender related
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  Speaker 5: health problem, men have a higher rate of death than women.
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  Speaker 4: It's a three men for every two women.
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  Speaker 5: So there are clearly problems that are specific to men,
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  Speaker 5: and I think they are deserving of a portfolio that
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  Speaker 5: deals specifically with issues that pertain to men. That's why
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  Speaker 5: we have a Minister for women, and I think by
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  Speaker 5: the same token, we should have a Minister for men. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I agree they should be focusing on these things and
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  Speaker 5: not peripheral things like the manisphere, but there is absolutely
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  Speaker 5: merit and a Minister for men.
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  Speaker 2: If you've got issues with men's health, why do you
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  Speaker 2: need a minister for men? Why would you not just
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  Speaker 2: have a health department that deals with serious issues of health. Ie,
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  Speaker 2: men are far more likely to be dying of cancer,
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  Speaker 2: let's do something about that. Why is there no one
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  Speaker 2: in the Department of Health that can simply look at
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  Speaker 2: health issues without needing the prism of gender to make
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  Speaker 2: decisions that are benefit for the entire nation. I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand why we have to have a men's minister or
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  Speaker 2: a women's minister. And on the point of equality, which
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  Speaker 2: you went to, well, then we must have a minister
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  Speaker 2: for non binary people because we've decided that's a thing
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  Speaker 2: as well.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, if you're going to seriously make that argument,
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  Speaker 6: it is of course an extremely small fraction of the publicity.
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  Speaker 6: Even more reasons, I think it's commendable that the Victorian
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  Speaker 6: government suddenly seems to notice that there is a difference
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  Speaker 6: between men and women, because it seems to have struggled
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  Speaker 6: on this issue, including Victoria Allen when she's speaking about
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  Speaker 6: things like biological males and women's prisons. So at least
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  Speaker 6: it can now bring itself to acknowledge there is a
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  Speaker 6: fundamental difference between men and women. But I have to
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  Speaker 6: agree with James, at least on the point of most issues.
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  Speaker 6: Men and women do not necessarily have a difference of
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  Speaker 6: opinion on whether it's the economy, whether it's tax taxes,
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  Speaker 6: a lot of social causes, a lot of social considerations. Yes,
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  Speaker 6: there's some differences and health concerns, but they can be
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  Speaker 6: handled in one health portfolio surely.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 5: It's interesting because we talked about this a couple of
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  Speaker 5: months ago when Kelly Sloane appointed a shadow minister for
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  Speaker 5: me in New South Wales, and you said there's a
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  Speaker 5: clear gap between the health outcomes of men and women,
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  Speaker 5: and yet somehow that gap has not been seen as
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  Speaker 5: important until now.
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  Speaker 2: So you said that, yes, you've been trolling two old
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  Speaker 2: episodes of the Lead de Bait.
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  Speaker 1: You also sign trap me with my.
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  Speaker 5: Also said it's incredibly refreshing to have a political leader
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  Speaker 5: like Kelly Sloan saying we've got to do something for men.
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  Speaker 5: So you two months ago you were supportive of a
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  Speaker 5: minister for men, Now you're not.
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  Speaker 4: I want to know why.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I reserve the right to change my mind. I
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  Speaker 2: reserve the right not to be misquoted on our own show.
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  Speaker 4: It's exactly what you said.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to go I'm going to take the Dan
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  Speaker 2: Andrews path and say I have no recollect However, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's nice for politicians to announce there's issues with men.
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  Speaker 2: You can say that and at the same time say,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't need to create a special portfolio. If
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  Speaker 2: there was a massive issue with women, you know, dying
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  Speaker 2: of one particular thing, I don't see why we would
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  Speaker 2: need a women's minister to draw attention to that. Wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: those in the health department simply recognize that as an issue.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to help men in this country, rather
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  Speaker 2: than have a Minister for men, just help families, because
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  Speaker 2: if we don't want our sons influenced by the andrew
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  Speaker 2: Taits of this world, do something to help family stay
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  Speaker 2: together so boys have a dad. Do something to help
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  Speaker 2: family spend time with their kids, so dads aren't full
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  Speaker 2: time at work and never see their sons. And where
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  Speaker 2: families do break up, do something about men having access
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  Speaker 2: to their children the event of family breakdown. Those would
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  Speaker 2: be some positive things to nullify the influence of those
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  Speaker 2: online rather than demonize all men because of the opinions
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  Speaker 2: of some guy in the UK who a very small
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  Speaker 2: number of people.
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  Speaker 4: I agree with all us. I agree with all of this.
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  Speaker 5: But the problem is that as we were talking about
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  Speaker 5: whether it was last night of the night before, it's
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  Speaker 5: not fashionable to care about men at the moment, and
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  Speaker 5: so you don't have health departments or education departments taking
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  Speaker 5: these things into account. So at least it may put
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  Speaker 5: men's issues into focus to some degree, but of course
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  Speaker 5: it does rely on the minister actually taking an interest
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  Speaker 5: in the bits that matter.
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  Speaker 6: So look, more bashing of which correct could happen, say
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  Speaker 6: for the.
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  Speaker 1: Rest of the show.
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  Speaker 2: For the rest of the show, I'm going to be
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  Speaker 2: distracted by the fact that prior to going on, I
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: told you that I'm opposed to me, and you went
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  Speaker 2: trawling back through.
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  Speaker 1: All my call.
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  Speaker 5: Look, you said you were a positive that I'm sure
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  Speaker 5: he said two months ago.
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  Speaker 1: He's very good, very good person.
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  Speaker 6: Then back to James McPherson. That is one hundred points
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  Speaker 6: to you, Caleb. Speaking of fashion, let's talk about Harry
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  Speaker 6: and Megan. What more fun sport is there than Harry
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  Speaker 6: and Megan bashing and they make it almost too easy.
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  Speaker 6: We're now at the halfway mark through their four day
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  Speaker 6: royal trip that isn't a royal trip. And I've got
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  Speaker 6: some sad news to tell you at home. Apparently Megan's
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  Speaker 6: much publicized women's retreat, it's called Your Best Life Girl's Weekend,
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  Speaker 6: her Best Life Girls Weekend, that was originally organized by
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  Speaker 6: Jackie O, who's had a few issues of her own. Well,
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  Speaker 6: it's failed to sell out, guys. Oh, I know, it's
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  Speaker 6: very sad. Organizers have had to go online and continue
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  Speaker 6: to publicize this and offer some last minute tickets for
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  Speaker 6: the Friday event, obviously on a couple of days out.
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  Speaker 6: And this is we're talking about an event that is
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  Speaker 6: close to twenty seven hundred dollars And if you want
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  Speaker 6: to get a VIP ticket to get a group photo
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  Speaker 6: with Megan at a table, that's going to set you
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  Speaker 6: back more than three thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: So it's not cheap.
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  Speaker 6: But I just wonder what living your best life looks
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  Speaker 6: like when you're the Duchess of Sussex. As she continues
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  Speaker 6: to insist to be called, does it look like rotting
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  Speaker 6: out your whole family and your husband's family?
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  Speaker 3: Does it look like getting dumped? From Netflix.
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  Speaker 6: Does it look like countless former staff now coming out
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  Speaker 6: and making allegations of bullying, Because if that's living my
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  Speaker 6: best life, then count me out.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want any part of this retreat.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you've paid up your two six hundred dollars
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  Speaker 5: for the lower tier, living your best life looks like
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  Speaker 5: sharing a hotel room with another person, because it's a
• 12:53
  Speaker 5: twin share fare, so you have you're paying to share
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  Speaker 5: a hotel within.
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  Speaker 4: The hotel room another person.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know whether you get two beds, you got
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  Speaker 5: a top and tail or what the go is, but
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  Speaker 5: that is allegedly what your best life looks like if
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  Speaker 5: you're going to go to this.
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  Speaker 2: It's the sisterhood, Caleb, It's about creating community. Look, I
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  Speaker 2: get what both of you are saying, but to be honest,
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  Speaker 2: this whole you know, people glorying in Meghan's failure. If
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  Speaker 2: this thing was sold out, we'd be sitting here saying
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  Speaker 2: what fools buying tickets. Now it's not sold out, so
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: we sit here saying ha ha ha, it didn't sell out.
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  Speaker 2: Does that not say a bit more about us than
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  Speaker 2: it does about Meghan that we're glorying in the failure
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  Speaker 2: of someone that we will never meet. She's had some
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: family issues. She's a pain in the butt.
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  Speaker 3: By agree you actually did come twenty eighteen.
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  Speaker 1: Do we really feel better because she's failing.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: She is the person who in twenty eighteen reportedly said,
• 13:44
  Speaker 6: according to a book, an unauthorized book about the couple,
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  Speaker 6: which included her visit to Australia the first time round,
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  Speaker 6: that she had had quipped to someone, I can't believe
• 13:58
  Speaker 6: I'm not being paid for this. Now she's being paid,
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  Speaker 6: and people don't really want to show up. The other
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  Speaker 6: thing that has really annoyed me today about Megan Markel
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  Speaker 6: is that she visited a women's homeless shelter, which in
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  Speaker 6: itself is commendable, but she used it as an excuse
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  Speaker 6: to flog the designer clothes she was wearing. She's an
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: investor in a new AI powered fashion platform that helps
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: people find out what their favorite celebrities are wearing, and
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  Speaker 6: of course, as soon as she appeared in what was
• 14:33
  Speaker 6: a twelve hundred and fifty dollars dress and twelve hundred
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  Speaker 6: dollars Christian.
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  Speaker 3: Dual shoes, it went up on this platform.
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  Speaker 6: So people could buy the same outfit as Megan Now,
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  Speaker 6: first of all, completely tone deaf to wear a designer
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  Speaker 6: outfit that collectively was worth tens of thousands of dollars
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  Speaker 6: when you take a watch and the jewelry into account,
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  Speaker 6: to a women's homeless shelter not the right place. Literally,
• 15:01
  Speaker 6: the warm Megan, do what Princess Kate would wear where
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: an outfit you'd worn before, probably from the high street,
• 15:09
  Speaker 6: which means an inexpensive brand, where a pair of.
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  Speaker 3: Trainers just look at least look like you're not trying.
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  Speaker 6: To show off like it was a beautiful outfit, and
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: the dress was an Australian designer, which is which is nice.
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  Speaker 3: But I do find.
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  Speaker 6: It a little bit sick, not just that she wore
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  Speaker 6: such inappropriate clothes, but that she was profiting off it
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: through the site. Did the women know that she was
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: she was using this whole visit as a way of promoting.
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  Speaker 2: Her Well, I think it's unfair to say she was
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  Speaker 2: using the visit to the homeless shelter to promote her
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  Speaker 2: She was really in the sense that she would be
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  Speaker 2: using every public appearance to promote her fashion label.
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  Speaker 6: So it's not like she a charity visit maybe like
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: to the children's hospital or to a.
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  Speaker 1: Probably, yeah, how does it work logistically? Right?
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  Speaker 2: So she would have had functions either side of the
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  Speaker 2: homeless shelter. So you're saying she has to dress nice
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  Speaker 2: for one engagement, then she has to quickly dress down
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  Speaker 2: so she doesn't you know, isn't it a bit condescending
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  Speaker 2: to those at the homeless shelter. No one complained about
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  Speaker 2: what she was wearing. They were thrilled that she visited.
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  Speaker 3: How do you know, have you spoken to all the
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  Speaker 3: people of the women's shelter.
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  Speaker 2: I was actually dead no, because I read the reports
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  Speaker 2: and they said that they complimented her.
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  Speaker 6: On No one's going to say any and she did
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  Speaker 6: look beautiful. I'm not saying she didn't, and she dresses beautifully.
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  Speaker 6: That's not my point. I think it was inappropriate, not
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  Speaker 6: just to wear a high end fashion outfit to a
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  Speaker 6: homeless women's shelter, but then to profit off it on
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  Speaker 6: a new site that you're flogging your clothes on. I
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  Speaker 6: just think that is really just ill advised, just poor
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  Speaker 6: judgment and poor taste, tacky.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you anyway, which is megan to it.
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  Speaker 5: I'll tell you James that the reason people dislike Meghan
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: and they're quite happy to watch her fail at things.
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  Speaker 5: Is the same reason that people dislike Yoko Ono because
• 17:04
  Speaker 5: she broke up the Beatles, and Meghan has broken up
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: the Royal family. And people love the Royal Family and
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: feel great connection to it. And they've seen someone sworn
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: in marry into an institution that plenty of other people
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: have married into, knowing full well what they're getting into,
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  Speaker 5: and have served the public of the Commonwealth having taken
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: that role. You're marry into the Royal Family. You're not
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: just marrying someone with a love. You're marrying into a
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: job that you will have to perform for the rest
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: of your life. And everyone else has seemed to understand that,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: except for Megan. That's why people take delight in watching
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: her fail at her then, you know, trying to move
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: on from all of that. But speaking of failure, Harry
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: himself decided to pick up a Sharon today and have
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: a go at kicking the football around.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: I think we've got some of that vision here for
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: you to have a look at.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: And look, you know, it's not the best, it's not
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: the worst. I want to know why he's training with
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: the bulldogs there. I mean, he could have gone and
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: caught up with your North Melbourne or someone James Well.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: After seeing the way he kicks a footy, I reckon
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: he'll be immediately recruited by Essendon.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Exactly, he'll be drafted.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: He couldn't do what he was But here are some
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: of the Bulldogs fans who are a bit disappointed they
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: didn't get to see him personally.
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Very disappointed, but didn't say, Harry, it was a shame
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: that we didn't.
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: But his presence was here.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Ah, his presence was We felt his presence.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: Isn't that Maybe they can pay three thousand dollars and
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: get it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: You know what was funny though, is the Wiggles were
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: at the Bulldogs stadium at the same time as Harry
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and I was watching vision this afternoon. Harry's kicking the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: footy with a couple of Bulldogs players. Meanwhile all the
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: kids and parents are on the side. What is that
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: enraptured by the Wiggles?
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: What is that? Teddy? Though it's not really the Wiggles.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: The Wiggles are the real world, the Wiggles.
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: The Wiggles aren't really the wiggle Ever since they let
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: women into the Wiggles and now they've got a hundred
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: of them.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: What the Wiggles.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: The Wiggles are the four Waggles, Sorry, there were four block.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: The Wiggles isn't really the Wiggles since they let women.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I agree with that, just say that.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: But in the same way Marco broke up the Royals,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: that woman broke up the Wiggles. So it's the classic
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: example that you described.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Like them as a quartet. There's too many.
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: I don't know, Yes, just go back to the Wiggles.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: Wiggle is one of the best wiggles of all time.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: Change my mind.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Just go back to how they wiggle.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Let's move on to Trump anyway, I know.
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: So we're I'm sure we're having these debates whether the
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Wiggles are really the Wiggles. And Donald Trump, I'm sure
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: he's probably having these discussions as well, if he ever
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: catches up with his mate, maybe former mate Georgia Maloney. Again,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: of course she's off running Italy. But we told you
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: last night about comments she made about Trump, given comments
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: he had made about the Pope. So let's go right
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: back to the beginning, shall we. This is what if
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: you've been living under a rock. The Pope has said
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: about what's been going in Iran.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: To reject war, especially a which many people have said
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: is an unjust war which is continuing to escalate and
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: which is not resolving anything. In fact, we have a
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: worldwide economic crisis, energy crisis, situation in the Middle East
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: of great instability, which is only provoking more hatred throughout
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: the world.
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: And then Trump came out and had to go at
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: the Pope, and then he put that AI generated photograph
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: up on truth Social of him looking like Jesus, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: then of course he said that it wasn't Jesus, it's
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: that he was actually a doctor who was performing healing.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: And then we all wake up and go have we
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: moved into another dimension?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Like is all of this stuff real?
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: So then Georgia Maloney comes out, who has been an
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: ally of Trump, and says, well, I think he overstepped
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: the mark here having to go with the pope and
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: pulling up these images of him pretending to be Jesus. Well, Trump,
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: in true Trump fashion, now says Maloney should her head in.
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: He's told the press in Italy that she is one
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: she is the one, sorry, who is unacceptable because she
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: doesn't care if Iran has a nuclear weapon and would
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: blow Italy to smithereens in two minutes if it had
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: the chance.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I'm chocked by her.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: I thought she was brave, but I was wrong. And
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: he has continued his attacks on the Pope. He said
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: he shouldn't be talking about war because he has no
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: idea what's going on. He doesn't understand that forty two
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: thousand protesters were killed in Iran last month. Now, look,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: I think two things can be true at once. I
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: think the Pope should shut up, and I think Donald
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: Trump should shut up. This has gone on too long now.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: We don't need the Pope inserting his nose into the
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: business of what the president of the United States and
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: Israel is doing. We don't need the Pope talking about
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: how awful war is, etc. When he makes no comment
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: about what Iran itself has done, which is what Trump
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: is noting.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: But nor do we.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Need Trump continue fighting back and then fighting with Maloney.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: There is an actual war going on. Just deal with
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: the war. Stop having these silly fights on the side
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: with your potential or supposed adversary.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Except I don't think they're silly fights.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: If the Pope, the leader of the world's Catholics, says
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that Trump's war on Iran is an unjust war. How
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: can Donald Trump not respond to that in the harshest
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: possible terms, Because, as you well know, war's a fought
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: on the battlefield and their fought in the.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Area of propaganda.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: If you want public support for your war, which is
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: incredibly important, you can't have the Pope saying it's an
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: unjust war go unchallenged. I think Trump is well within
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: his rights to take the Pope on, and the Pope's
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: within his rights to have his views as well. In fact,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I'd like it that the Pope has spoken out because
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: now we know what he really thinks, and I like
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that Trump has set him on his backside. And as
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: for Maloney, I wonder if she's responding more to domestic
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: political issues rather than what's actually going on in the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: mind least. We saw the leader of Hungary lose election.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: He was a strong Trump supporter. I wonder if there's
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit of fear that if you get too
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: close to Trump you might suffer domestically.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: So I think that is a huge backing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Away because of that, rather than any strong feelings about
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: what Trump's doing.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: In her rewer, I think that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: Is a spot on observation because polling in Italy has
• 23:21
  Speaker 6: shown that eighty percent of Italians don't have a favorable
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: view of Trump, so she's.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Responding to that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: But it's not just her comments about the Pope that
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: I think Trump is responding to as well, Like as
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: he has pointed out, she hasn't helped in terms of
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: sending ships to help reopen the Strait of Hormuz or
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: to patrol there. She hasn't allowed you the US to
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: use a military base in Sicily. So there's a lot
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: of stuff there that I think would be disappointing for Trump.
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: She was once, you know, a bit of a Trump
• 23:56
  Speaker 6: whisperer or his EU whisperer, his main ally in Europe,
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: and I think she in some ways, I think he's right,
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: well many ways, I think he's right to feel let
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: down by her. And as for the Pope, well, I
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: agree with you and I don't think any I'm not
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: a particularly religious person. I'm like you, James, I not
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: religious at all. I don't think anyone should be above
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: or any religious leader should be above challenge or scrutiny.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: And he obviously has huge influences the head of the
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: Catholic Church. So why shouldn't he be pulled up on it?
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Because you're very right. What has the pope and correct
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: me if I'm wrong. What has he ever said about
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Iran killing tens of thousands of its own people in
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: those protests that we've seen and over the course of
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: the regime.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: What has he ever said.
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: About Iran sponsoring and training and funding its proxies in
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: the form of her Mass and Hesbala and Huti, or
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: directing attacks on communities such as our own Jewish community
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: here in Australia as a has been found to have done.
• 25:01
  Speaker 6: What has he said about any of that? If he
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: is just talking about being against war but only on
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: one side, that suggests he is not only anti Trump
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: but anti West.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean all of this is true. I suppose.
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: My issue is that it's just now descending into a
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: slanging match to some degree, and both officers of Pope
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: and President should be above these sorts of slanging matches,
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: particularly in the midst of a war.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I think they both could do better on that count.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Well, just very quickly, before we move on, it's worth
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: having a look at JD. Evans, because of course the
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: Pope said that this war was unjust and that God
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: is not going to be with America in this war.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: JD. Evance made a great counterpoint.
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: God is never on the side of those who willed
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: the sword. I'm pretty sure that he said that exact statement. Now,
• 25:51
  Speaker 8: was God on the side of the Americans who liberated
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: France from the Nazis? Was God on the side of
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: the Americans who liberated cost camps and liberated those those
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: innocent people from those who had survived the Holocaust?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Well said JD. Vans. All right, yesterday was Holocaust Memorial Day.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Benjamin Netanyahoo gave a speech commemorating that day. If you
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: go online and watch the speech, I highly recommended it
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: was a brilliant speech. But have a look at the
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: way Channel seven in Melbourne reported it. They put up
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: this post headed the alleged war criminal delivered a defiant address.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Now the alleged war criminal would be Israeli Prime Minister
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: Benjamin nettin Yahoo. So why didn't they say Israeli Prime
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Minister Benjamin nettan Yahoo delivered a defiant address rather than
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the alleged war criminal.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I wonder if.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It's because they have deliberately framed Benjamin Netanyah, who before
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: any reader has a chance to read what he said,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and so it shapes perception from the outset.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: That would be my problem with that.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Now, when complaints were raised with Channel seven, as you
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: would expect them to be, that post quickly disappeared. We've
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: spoken the Channel seven who have said they were horrified
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: that was put up and they deleted it immediately they
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: became aware. Well, Carolina, of course they became aware because
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: people took umbrage with it.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they took screenshots. So I'm not sure how
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: long that post remained. They ended up taking it down
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: and replacing it with a pretty innocuous one that had
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: a new caption saying the Israeli Prime Minister delivered an address.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: And I'm not saying the entire seven network is behind this,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: but clearly they have someone on their social media team
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: or a social media manager who this passed through and
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: who should have known better, and it should have been
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: picked up without people having to screenshot it and then
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: presumably complain about it for them to take notice. And
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I also think the fact that they have not put
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: out a statement it's expressing regret at this having happened,
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: especially in light of the fact that it was a
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: Yom HaShoah Holocaust Memorial day in which we remember the
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: six million Jews who were exterminated by Nazi Germany, who
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: the Prime Minister of Israel was comparing Iran two in.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: This historic speech.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: The fact that it happened on that day just makes
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: it so much worse, just compounds the trauma that the
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: Jewish community in this country is already feeling after more
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: than two years of anti Semitic attacks, After the worst
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: terror attack this country has ever seen only a few
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: months ago in BONDI beach, I just think you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: do better seven and put out a statement showing that
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: you truly are sorry.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: If that is how you feel, I just.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: Want to know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, we all did conditt chips at various points.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: To go into journalism, one of the first things they
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: tell you is when you're doing a news report. And
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: you know, we obviously now work in opinions, so we
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: have the ability to say what we think. But when
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: you're doing a news report, you don't insert your opinion
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: into it, you don't color a tainted in any way.
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: With your view of the story.
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: You simply tell the story as it is. This was
• 29:08
  Speaker 5: clearly editorializing and whether it's the eighteen year old left
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: in charge of the social media account or someone more senior.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Anyone working in a newsroom who is left in charge
• 29:19
  Speaker 5: of a social media account which carries the name of
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: the masthead, whether that be seven or anyone else, ought
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: to know better than to do that. And particularly as
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: you say on Holocaust Memorial Dane, you mentioned the Bonda massacre.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Of course, how about this blokeover in the UK. This
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: is thanks to the Times of London who's done a
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: bit of digging on this, but Mark Adelie is a
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: Greens candidate in the UK and he.
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: Has made some outrageous.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: Comments online the sort of bloke that the Greens over
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: there seemed to want to have as a candidate, including
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: about the Bondai massacre, basically suggesting well, you know, this
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: was just inevitably going to happen, not because of radical Islam,
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: but because of Israel.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Have a listen.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: There is no definitive scientific explainer that we'll be able
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: to draw a distinction between how what Israel's behavior and
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: the recent genocide has done for increasing anti Semitism, or
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: how much radical Islam as a you know, just as
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: a growing concept has developed anti Semitism.
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: He said that the day after the Bondai massacre, and
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: he was talking directly about the Bondai massacre when he
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: made those comments. The next day he said in this
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: same podcast that the only person who's made the lives
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: of Jewish Peo people infinitely more dangerous again talking about
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: the bond Dio massacre was Benjaminette and Yahoo. I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: he's basically saying it's got nothing to do with radical Islam,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: not that that's not what's the fault here. The problem
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: is that a prime minister on the other side of
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: the world has caused a Jews to be shot dead
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: in Australia.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Because of what it's just beyond.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: You just can't believe that it is real and there
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: is more where this came from.
• 31:10
  Speaker 10: Well, Taglers, I'm telling you now, the weirdest thing about
• 31:14
  Speaker 10: the maps of history when you look at how Hitler
• 31:18
  Speaker 10: expanded Germany or sort to expand Germany, it's almost a
• 31:22
  Speaker 10: complete identic ke it to what er Netti Yo who's
• 31:26
  Speaker 10: doing in the Middle East. Israel is the biggest threat
• 31:28
  Speaker 10: to the sovereignty of every nation on this planet.
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so there's a war going on in the
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: Middle East, and that is the threat, the biggest threat
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: to sovereignty of every nation on the plant. What the
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: hell is this guy on about and where does he
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: get off suggesting that the Bondai massacre was caused by
• 31:48
  Speaker 5: Benjamin Nett And yo, he's.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Not your surprise, but by this I'm not.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: When it comes to the Greens and a Greens candidate,
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: even though the Greens in the UK have sought to
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: distance themselves from people like him, well they haven't disendorsed him.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: They just say, oh, we don't share the beliefs. But
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: there's quite a few of them, the candidates and local
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: elections that share these sorts of views and blame Zinus
• 32:12
  Speaker 6: for causing nine to eleven for actually carrying out the attack.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Insane stuff.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: But when I was at the Bonni Memorial the day
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: after the attack, someone turned up. A woman turned up
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: wearing a Palestinian kafir, supported by a Greens counselor on
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Waverley Council. She was with him and started trying to
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: attend the memorial in this kafir, and people there were
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: getting quite agitated and saying you're not welcome here wearing that.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: And when I asked her, why have you come here?
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: She said because it is Israel. She blamed Israel for
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: causing for leading to the situation where we have rising
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: anti semitism in this attack. Now, police alleged in this
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: attack that the attackers were motivated by Islamic State. They
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: allegedly found an Islamic state flag in a car at
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: the scene. So I can't believe that people would try
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: and link this to anything but a fundamentalist Islam, which
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: everything seems to be pointing to, at least according to police.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: All Right, Angus Taylor released something of an immigration policy
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the other day. We've been waiting for the coalition to
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: finally make an announcement. They haven't given specific figures as
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: to what their immigration target would be, but this figure
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: released today was pretty interesting. Seventy seven thousand people currently
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: residing in Australia illegally, and some of them for more.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Than ten years.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: In fact, twenty five thousand of that quotient have been
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: here more than a decade. Here's John o'dunham speaking on Kenny.
• 33:51
  Speaker 9: So they literally have no recourse to stay.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Goodness knows who these people are, but they need to go.
• 33:58
  Speaker 9: Feares fear the laws, the law. Once you've reached the
• 34:01
  Speaker 9: end of your time here, time.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: To go home.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Now, Angus Taylor says, we need a task force to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: round up these people and send them on their way immediately.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Everybody says Trump's ice, Well, I mean, you've got to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: have a task force, don't you. You can't sort of casually
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: round them up. You're going to have to have some
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: sort of organization. It's like people who say they hate
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: organized religion, to which I say, what do you want
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: to have a service outside under a tree. As soon
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: as you start to have something large that needs to
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: be dealt with, you're going to have to have an
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: organizational apparatus to deal with it. So of course they're
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: going to have to have a task force to round
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: up these people. And if they don't do it now,
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: we will get to a point like in the United States,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: where it's too big to deal with. So this is
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: one of those things. Seventy seven thousand is a lot
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: of people. If they don't start now, we will end
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: up where it's just too difficult and politicians will say
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: too hard. Come.
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: But the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, he's got a plan.
• 34:58
  Speaker 11: We have a bigger problem than I wish we had
• 35:00
  Speaker 11: because of what we were left with. But we are
• 35:02
  Speaker 11: getting through it. But people should be on notice at
• 35:05
  Speaker 11: the end of your visa, if you don't have another visa,
• 35:08
  Speaker 11: you should leave Australia.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: You should leave.
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: Yes, that's worked with the seventy seven thousand people who
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: haven't bothered to leave, including twenty five thousand of them
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: who've been here for more than ten years after their
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: visas expired. I mean, come on, give me a break now,
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: very quickly. Before we get to a break. We told
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: you we'd show you this brand new cathedral that's going
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: to be built right here in Sydney in Hornsby, or
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: when I say, rahi, it's where I'm sitting.
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: I'm not sitting in Hornsby.
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: But anyway, I have a look at the new cathedral
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: that is going to go up, you know, I mean,
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: compare that to some of the best in the world,
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: and that that's a museum that's going along with it,
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: you know, not Tre Dame and the Basilica. I mean,
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: why can't we go back to building nice things? You know,
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: there was a time when architecture was beautiful and it
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: meant something, particularly religious architecture, and now we get I
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: don't know whatever the hell that thing is on the left.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: It doesn't inspire me.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I have to say a quick question before we go
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: to the break.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: As a non religious person, I think does it okay
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: for me to say that, why do you want the
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: church to build beautiful things?
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: Because I, well, the point of building a beautiful church,
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: presumably is to honor God, and I think there is
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: goodness in building beautiful things in the world.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: Whatever the reason to do so might be.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Very good, Well said Bond, Very good. I'll quote you
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: back to yourself.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: You should. All right, let's go to a break.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll look at what's making headlines tomorrow,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: including Australia's oil production right before the Iranian War.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Was it an all time load? That's coming up next.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: We'll start with the Daily Telegraph, where, of course, the
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: fuel crisis dominates. The headline reads State against State, Men's
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: eyes off his very own fuel reserve. The states worsening
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: fuel crisis could push the min's government to stockpile its
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: own diesel reserve, following the leads set by West Australia
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: this week in a move the opposition labeled assign the
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: states were losing confidence in the Prime Minister's ability to
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: secure fuel supply. Hard to argue with that analysis, of course.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: Last week West Australia announced they would start stockpiling their
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: own diesel purely for the.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: State of Western Australia.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: It's almost like COVID days, isn't it, where state premiers
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: started looking after their own patch and to hell with
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: the rest of the country. It's not good signs for
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: the nation or for confidence in what the PM is
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: trying to rustle together overseas.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: No, it doesn't look it doesn't reflect well on alban
• 37:51
  Speaker 6: EASi when labor a premiers for doing this. But Min's
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: is eminently more sensible than Albanisi, so I would have
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: more confidence in him actually doing something to help sure
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: up our supplies and our reserves the next time we
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: find ourselves in this.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Scenario and as long as we don't know, start closing
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: borders and wilding people in their homes again. But in
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: general I'm supportive of states doing more. You know, I
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: think one of the unfortunate consequences of World War II
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: was that we basically federalized everything until that point, income
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: taxes were levied by the states, and then for the
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: war effort, we gave those powers to the federal government
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: and they never gave them.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: Back to the states.
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: So the states are heavily reliant on the federal government
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: to fund them, and therefore they can't do a great deal.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: I think a bit of competitive federalism and the states
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: taking responsibility for their own situations would be a good
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: thing in general. On the front of The Australian tomorrow,
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: while we're on the topic of fuel, says oil production
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: at record low when the war began. The nation's crude
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: oil production was at its lowest on record the month
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: that Donald Trump launched war with Iran. The Australian can
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: reveal as Anthony Alberanizi declares his government is in discussions
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: quote unquote with Western countries about Australia's role to help
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: reopen the straight of Hall moves. After the conflict, Australian
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: crude oil production was at seventeen ninety two so oney
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: seven hundred and ninety two mega leaders, I should say,
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: in July twenty ten, but it dropped by more than
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: ninety percent to one hundred and seventy one megal liters
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: in February this year, the lowest on record. I mean,
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: if that doesn't tell you what we've done to our
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: sovereign capability, it is.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: A disgrace, an absolute disgrace.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: And by the way, the two refineries we do still
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: have are only secured until twenty thirty, so god knows
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: what happens after that.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: In twenty ten, thirty percent of the fuel we were
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: refining here was Australian fuel at sixteen years ago. This
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: year it's eight percent, so again and dwindling use of
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: our natural resources.
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's just sad to see, I mean, how
• 40:06
  Speaker 6: reliant we are now on other countries and I am
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: Prime Minister having to go with his bagging bowls guy
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: and to Singapore and this is where we've what we've
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: unded up with.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: Indeed, another story on the front of the ears tomorrow.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Defense now on borrow time. The Albanezi government will borrow
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: from the private sector to help boost defense funding by
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: fourteen billion dollars over the next four years and fifty
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: three billion dollars over the decade, as it overhauls the
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: way it calculates military spending to get closer to the
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: levels demanded by Donald Trump. Defense Minister Richard Marles will
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: release an updated defense strategy and ten year investment program
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: on Thursday. It will treat an as yet undisclosed portion
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: of the new spending as off budget investments. He will
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: claim defense spending will reach about three percent of GDP
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: in NATO terms by twenty thirty three, compete with a
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: previously stated two point three three percent of GDP.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I love how they.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Trail up this sort of off budget spinning. The federal
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: government has increasingly done this. They've done it with renewables,
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: they're doing with all sorts of stuff. So they spend
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: without actually declaring it as an expense in the budget,
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: which is a tricky thing to do. I mean, whether
• 41:17
  Speaker 5: they're borrowing it or getting it from taxes or whatever.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: They do need to increase their military spending. The problem
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: is you have a government that has a really tight
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: budget as it is, and they've got two options. They
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: levy more or they cut somewhere, and they don't really
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: want to do either.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: And they're going to increase spending by zero point seven
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: percent of GDP over the next seven to eight years.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: And that's as NATO measure spending, which includes things like
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: veterans pensions. So this is hardly a great step to
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: make sure Australia is well equipped to defend ourselves in
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the event of war.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, the.
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: US Defense Secretary Pete Hagsath urged Usustralia and other countries
• 42:01
  Speaker 6: to lift spending to three point five percent of GDP
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: and that was some time ago last year, I believe,
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: And so this doesn't come anywhere close to that. And
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: if they're doing it by the measures you mentioned, then
• 42:14
  Speaker 6: they're really just fluffing the figures a bit, aren't they.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Absolutely they are.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: And let's talk about the Courier Mail, because they have
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: a front page story here. CFMEUS inside a trade This
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: is all about a double agent within the Militant Union.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: A union aligned spy.
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: Working as a workplace health and safety bureaucrat intercepted and
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: diverted calls to police about violence on Queensland work sites.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Explosive evidence to the CFMEU Commission of Inquiry. Alleged safety
• 42:47
  Speaker 6: boss Helen Burgess, who was in a relationship with a
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: union delegate, was given the power to divert police call
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: outs in a deal between the Office of Industrial Relations
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: and the Queensland Police Service. I mean, it's stuff as
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: it gets pretty ugly in the CFMU. But there's talks
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: of spies now, it's pretty extraordinary.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Diverting police court.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: You would not make that stuff up and you would
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: not believe it except it's on the front page of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: the Career Mail.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, the.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: The CFMU surely at this point has to be declared
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: and organized like we just got to treat them like
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: the barkis and whatever you've got to do to break
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: them up, you know, non association rules or whatever.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: It's just the point of ridiculousness. What's gone on in Victoria,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: what's gone in Queensland.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: Don't believe it's not happening in other parts of the
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: country as well, maybe to lesser degrees. I mean, when
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: you've got people diverting police phone calls, this is a
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: crime gang we're.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Talking or right, Let's go to the front page of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: the Canberra Times. Harry was in Canberra visiting the War memorial.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: The photo there he's involved in the smoking ceremony. Have
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a read of the front page. It's talk about trying
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: to make something of not very much. Harry's capital Welcome
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: is the headline, let me read it for you. A
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: small crowd called hi Harry and hello Harry to Prince
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Harry as he visited the Australian War Memorial during a
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: low key half day Canbra visit yesterday, Keith phrases Caleb
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: in this article would be small crowd, low key half
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: day and the highlight was people calling Hi Harry to Harry.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: It doesn't get much more riveting than.
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: That, Hi Harry, I mean Harry Har.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Why were they saying that again? Because it was Harry,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: because Harry.
• 44:42
  Speaker 6: They didn't say Prince Harry. So well, that's the absolute.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Level of disrespect.
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: I mean there were reports as well that there were
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: some people thought they were going to see Harry and
• 44:53
  Speaker 5: they didn't see him, but they did feel his presence
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: in Canberra. Are the fans of the Bulldogs, so I'm
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: sure it was good for them, but I mean, imagine
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: it's not a royal visit, right, and we've got it
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: being dressed up.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: People said, high Harry. I mean we've just we've jumped
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: the shark.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: All right after the break, we've got a miracle soccer goal,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: we've got pigs being chased by a robot and we've
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: got Australia's greatest Lord and there's something for everybody.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: It's coming up next. Okay.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Typically when you're playing soccer, there are two ways you
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: can score a goal with your foot or with your head.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Now there's a third. You can score a goal with
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: your face. Have a look at this game in Prague
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: where sorry Paraguay, where Sebastian Ferreira. He took a penalty shot.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: The goalie saved the shot, the ball rebounded off the
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: goalie and a defender tried.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: To boot it out of the park.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Instead, it struck the penalty striker in the face.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He was still smarting over the missed shot went in
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: for a goal.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Okay, Jorda.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Said. The crazy thing about that is the goal scorer
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: was hurting so bad he didn't celebrate at all.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I think he ended up with a black eye.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Actually, he said he couldn't open his eyes at first,
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: the pain was so bad. But he said that my
• 46:24
  Speaker 6: face decided to help me out this time. Faces technically
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: on the head though, James so anatomically.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I believe called a technicality.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: I mean, let's face it, that was a pretty good
• 46:36
  Speaker 5: Oh I see what you did that?
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: It has to be said, Look, you know the things
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: you got to do for your team, the things you
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: got to do.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: For your It was a close game they won by
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: a nose. Well done, Thank you.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: Two can play at this game now. I don't know
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: how obsessed you are with lorn. Chances are if you
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: are obsessed with your lawn, you're not the only person.
• 46:54
  Speaker 5: In fact, if you go on like go on Facebook,
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: there are massive groups did it to mostly men. I'm
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: sure there are some women involved, but mostly men who
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: are obsessed with maintaining their lawn.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: It's their hobby, it's their life. You know.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: The missus is saying, please, darling, can you come back inside?
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: He says, no, I have to look after my lawn.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: The children are being neglected. No, I must look after
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: my lawn. And here we have a fellow by the
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: name of Phil Gregory.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Lawn pawn they call it.
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: By the way, you can't get the other stuff now
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: the government bandit, so you can go look at the
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: lawn pawn instead. But Phil Gregory was recently named the
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: owner of Australia's best lawn. Now that's not the best lawn.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: That's him renovating his lawn, which he does every year
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: in the Yates National Gardening League. Now he mows his
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: lawn every day and he owns ten lawnmowers. That's how
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: obsessed he is.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: With looking after his lawn.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Would you go to those lengths ten lawnmowers daily lawnmowing
• 47:59
  Speaker 5: to keep your front yard looking nice?
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: No?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: No, I'd take my wife a glass of water while
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: she did. I make sure she stays hydrated.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: We have it.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: We live in an apartment, but they are beautiful gardens
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: and we have the best gardener. Shout out to Rod
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: in case he's watching. He does like to watch for
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: the Sky News. And my son was obsessed with Rod
• 48:22
  Speaker 6: and the gardening, and we had to get him every
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: gardening toy out there. We had a Bunnings party for him,
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: a gardening party. It's actually really good for your mental health.
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: What I like about this guy is he lets people
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: walk on his lawn. He says people should be allowed
• 48:36
  Speaker 6: to that's what they're there for. Let's quickly talk about
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: a robot chasing wild boars and pollen, because why not.
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: Can look at the footage this is an AI robot
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: chasing wild boars.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: It's a really big problem in Warsaw. I know we're
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: laughing about it, but look at this humanoid robot.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: What's the problem warsaw?
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: The pigs are a problem in urban areas. They go
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: and eat the rubbish. He's chasing them into the forest
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: and he even gives him a little wave goodbye. But
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: this is not viral. Apparently it's a real problem, guys.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: I don't know why you're laughing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: At the robots, are they What was the robot doing
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: in the first.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Place, chasing away the wild keeper?
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: What was the robot doing before the wild board?
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: I don't know, moving fast? I mean jeez, i'd be
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: quite heavy to outrun him up. Put him in charge
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: of the police force.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: That's it from us. Stick around.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Coming up in just a moment is the reader Penney show.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Good Night