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#295 - 38 Spesh · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Heyo, what's happening? Man? It's thirty eight specch Make sure
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  Speaker 1: y'all check me out on the Bootleg CAV podcast. Trust
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  Speaker 1: Bootleg cav Podcast Special guests in here. Mike got thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight special. What's hadding? What's going on? Man? I'm back, Man,
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  Speaker 1: You're back. You got some shows in the southern California area.
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  Speaker 1: Big show catch Garden Grove. New album is out for
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  Speaker 1: people who don't know. So what I like about what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing with this album and you've don't in the past,
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  Speaker 1: is you put the album out on your website early.
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  Speaker 1: So for the fans that are like that want it now,
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  Speaker 1: you can monetize that, right, you know, I get the
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  Speaker 1: people that you know want to support, give them a
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  Speaker 1: chance to support a lot of people be wanting to
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  Speaker 1: support Heavy, right, don't even really got no opportunity, right
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Yeah, because it's like you
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  Speaker 1: can stream it, but like what if I want to
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  Speaker 1: do more? You know? So you know, with this right here,
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  Speaker 1: I'm giving y'all an opportunity to pay what you want.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we start with a floor price at thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight dollars, but if you want to spend more you
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  Speaker 1: could spend more, and the people that spend a lot,
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  Speaker 1: y'all gonna get you know, different perks and stuff. You know,
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  Speaker 1: y'all gonna get access to, like, you know, the events,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the listening parties and exclusive merch and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that. You're gonna see all the incentives up there
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  Speaker 1: when you go to the site. It's that even dot biz.
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  Speaker 1: Well I just saw so if someone buys the album,
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  Speaker 1: they can come to the show in LA. Definitely, So
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  Speaker 1: they can come to the show in LA, and then
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  Speaker 1: there's an exclusive listening seven shots vinyl too, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a vinyl that you get signed by me as well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the vinyl turnarounds gotta
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  Speaker 1: be crazy. I feel like it takes forever to get
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  Speaker 1: vinyl made. It was. It got crazy when COVID hit. Right,
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  Speaker 1: it's been better. It's a lot better now. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: back to normal and shit, decent, decent turnaround and shit,
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  Speaker 1: how do you top last year? Man? You had a
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  Speaker 1: crazy year. Last year I had a dope. Yeah last year.
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  Speaker 1: This year is gonna be crazier. Yeah, because I got
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot of shit. Last year was my
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  Speaker 1: warm up. You know what I'm saying, Like I only
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  Speaker 1: put out honestly, I put out like seventeen songs last year,
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  Speaker 1: but they but they all you made him count? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I made them just count this year because did you
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  Speaker 1: only put out seven shots in the Harry Frodchi last year? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You made him count though, You're right? Yeah, right? You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. This year, I got a few
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  Speaker 1: things lined up. Like I said, I got gun Smoke,
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  Speaker 1: I just dropped. Me and Conway got an album Crazy Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the people gotta get ready for that. Is it finished?
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  Speaker 1: It's done? Oh man? Yeah, that's coming. I'm gonna follow
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  Speaker 1: up after gun Smoke with that. So y'all heard that?
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a title for it? You're gonna need
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  Speaker 1: a lighter again or yeah, I'm gonna need a lighter again.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get this wonderful hardin lighter, yes, sir, So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's coming. The name of that album is called Special Machinery.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, something serious, Special Machinery. Yeah, were on there
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  Speaker 1: getting busy and shit. You know what I'm saying. I
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  Speaker 1: produced the whole joint, me and me and my guy
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Dukes. He's a producer from out of Buffalo. We
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  Speaker 1: produced the whole joint and how many songs? Ten? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: enjoins me and Conway dumping going crazy. Yeah, And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like last year Conway kind of like he had
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  Speaker 1: a great year. He did drumwork for us and stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like he kind of kicked back on
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  Speaker 1: releasing music at a normal pace. So I know this
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  Speaker 1: year he is not playing Yeah even lowder him and
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  Speaker 1: Jay Ski's just dropped. I know his album comes out
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  Speaker 1: in April. When is you know what date you guys
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  Speaker 1: are dropping this? Uh for July Augustus, and shit, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I'm gonna hit him one more time,
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  Speaker 1: one more solo before the year route. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I'm gonna give him three projects
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  Speaker 1: this year. I feel like you just celebrated the anniversary
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  Speaker 1: of the album with Benny, and I made me feel like,
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  Speaker 1: damn time Flies, was it five years? It was five years? Man?
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  Speaker 1: And uh we actually on the low. We and we
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  Speaker 1: in the studio right now cooking you and Benny right now,
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  Speaker 1: but part two. Yeah, and it sounded like, damn man,
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  Speaker 1: it's surprise and it hit a hunger that we still
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  Speaker 1: got right like it's like, Wow, we still say is
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  Speaker 1: good together and we still you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: we bring the best out each other. So it's one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite album covers. Too. Appreciate that stating shot
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  Speaker 1: too is on the way y'all, y'all get ready for
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  Speaker 1: that man. So that might come this year too, it's
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  Speaker 1: a strong possibility. If not, it's definitely coming next year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you ain't playing, bron ain't this guy's not playing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in my bag right now, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred. So what is the difference between doing an
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  Speaker 1: entire project with Benny whatch you've already done you're currently
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  Speaker 1: working now, and then getting in with Conway? Do they
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  Speaker 1: have a big difference in terms of just how they
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  Speaker 1: worked it? Like like, well, yeah, yeah, it's a difference
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  Speaker 1: because Conway's more late than anybody. Well he's the latest
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  Speaker 1: guy alive, what you mean, Like he just be like
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  Speaker 1: I'll be there at ten, but he comes to like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that's my brother. I love Conway. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely different. And shit, me and Ben, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we was recording for a longer period of time, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We've been doing this here for
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  Speaker 1: together for a long time. Yeah, since like seven o eight,
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  Speaker 1: probably six, So you guys we got a lot more
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  Speaker 1: chemist chemistry of course, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Me and Conway, we ain't record as much, but we
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  Speaker 1: still got history and shit. But you know, the recording
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  Speaker 1: process is still really like the same though. We still
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  Speaker 1: go in there and give it our best. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very competitive situation. It's anytime, good way room. It's a
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  Speaker 1: great anytime. Like you know, me and the Spinners is
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  Speaker 1: a few spinners right that I sunk with. Anytime we
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  Speaker 1: get together. It's a very competitive situation, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying, And it brings out the best. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: y'all expect to hear some great ship that's great special machinery. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like that man's records features. Yeah, we got Lloyd
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  Speaker 1: Banks on it. Come on, man, yeah, man, I got
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  Speaker 1: dropping so much just news, just yeah, man, I got
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd Banks on there. We got Pharaoh Mantra on there.
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  Speaker 1: Did anyone ever tell you look like Pharaoh Mantch a
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  Speaker 1: little bit or a little bit, just a little bit,
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit, man, Pharah Mantch didn't have hair, right,
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  Speaker 1: I could see it. Parah Manches one of them one though.
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  Speaker 1: He's one of them ones and you don't hear his
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  Speaker 1: name enough when we talk about like the greats. Farah
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  Speaker 1: Manch is one of them guys. Yeah, so you know
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  Speaker 1: that shit is coming bad, like you know uploaded though, Man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm bloaded, you ain't playing this year? Hey, So you're
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  Speaker 1: like you've gotten these like huge co signs from guys
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  Speaker 1: like KD, guys like Kevin Obviously I'd already said Kevin Durrant,
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  Speaker 1: who's the Phoenix Sun? Now? By the way, Lebron James
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  Speaker 1: riding around listening to your music, like for you, like
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  Speaker 1: when you see Lebron is like just a fan, Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's that feel like to know, like arguably the greatest
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  Speaker 1: player of all time? It's like extremely tapped in. That
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  Speaker 1: feels great. Yeah. Yeah, coming from where I come from,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It's it's amazing. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm not used to, like I'm always
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  Speaker 1: used to like being dope, but like people not knowing
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  Speaker 1: about it, right, It's almost like those co signs mean
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  Speaker 1: a lot more than like some of these industry costs
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  Speaker 1: science that you kind of feel like you need to
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  Speaker 1: be like solidified, right, It's like fuck that KD and
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  Speaker 1: Lebron are bumping my shit. Fuck what you think facts
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  Speaker 1: and it's naturally organic, you know what I'm saying. They
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  Speaker 1: fill it music, you know what I'm saying. So that shit,
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  Speaker 1: that shit is beautiful. I feel like I might have
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  Speaker 1: seen you in the studio with KD. Am I tripping? Nah?
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  Speaker 1: You ain't tripping, man, You ain't tripping, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. KD, KD he been behind the scenes working
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  Speaker 1: with me and ran on some things, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Me and Ransom, So you know, me and
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  Speaker 1: Ransom and KD, we like, you know, got some things
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  Speaker 1: cooking up. Y'all can expect something some powerful. Well listen
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: for people who don't know, Kevin Durant did have a
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  Speaker 1: record label back in the day when he first was
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  Speaker 1: the OKC. He did have a go at the music industry.
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  Speaker 1: Is he trying to spend the block? And I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: say trying, I'm gonna say he's spinning the block heavy
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  Speaker 1: with Ransom and thirty eight Special, Yeah, I would say that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, So, did you guys sign to do like
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  Speaker 1: a like an album with him? We just we just
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  Speaker 1: added right now, we just you know, we just we
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  Speaker 1: just building. You know. Would you signed with Kevin Durant?
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't really like even the
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  Speaker 1: words sign. Would you partner with KD on the project?
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  Speaker 1: I would definitely. Are you guys partnering on the project?
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  Speaker 1: That's the strong But yeah, that's that's definitely what's happening.
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  Speaker 1: We definitely partnering on so you Ransom Kevin Durant partnering
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  Speaker 1: on the body of work? Wow? Yeah. And Katie's got
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: a great year for this rap ship. So like he does,
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  Speaker 1: how much input does he have? Does he help him
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  Speaker 1: with picking beat? Yeah? Yeah, full hands on and on.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, given all a lot of input.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he got a good solid you know, we
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  Speaker 1: all come from the same claw file as what we like.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: Iss sure, so you know, you know that's how that is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And we're just running through reaching out, coming
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  Speaker 1: up the production and that's that's a big deal, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you got to come to
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: Phoenix now, I definitely do come to the hometown. Man. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm supposed to. I'm supposed to be going out there
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  Speaker 1: sometime soon as Ship. We got some great recording studios
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  Speaker 1: out there, that's what DMX recorded a lot of Ship
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: and Little Wayne did the Carter three out there and
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: Hazy you know got we got, we got some good
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  Speaker 1: spots to to lay down some uh some partnered albums
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant, that's for sure. Oh no, yeah, I
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: already hit man. You got to come out for the
• 9:29
  Speaker 1: playoffs because you know what making them. I mean, we're
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be in. We're going to the finals. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. As long as Katie's healthy, as long
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: as his foot is okay and he don't slip on
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: the court anymore, we'll be all right, do you Okay?
• 9:40
  Speaker 1: So if you're if you're working with KD, are you
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: automatically like that's your squad whatever team he's on. Hell yeah, yeah,
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: so your son's fans fan, right, Hell yeah? Realized. You
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: gotta realize, like before before the NBA started supporting me
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  Speaker 1: and Ship, you know what, I me really watched sports.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: So you were never a big sports guy anymore? Was
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  Speaker 1: a sports guy. I can't even tell you who went
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl last year, and I don't even
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  Speaker 1: know who won a championship last year. You know what
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  Speaker 1: a year before that? No, No, that is a life
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had. I let so much shit that
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: I can't control. Stress me out so much because I'm
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  Speaker 1: such a sports fanatic and I gambled on so much shit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know any of these guys. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not playing in the games, but somehow my life is
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: so wrapped up into it's like some gang shit, Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a fucking Suns fan. Like I've given
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: so much of my money to Phoenix Suns shit, Like
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  Speaker 1: if you were to go to my closet round, I
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: probably have one hundred jerseys. It's it's really sickening, like
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: but I'm just glad that I've already bought three KT jerseys.
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  Speaker 1: They haven't got delivered yet, but I can't wait. Shout
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  Speaker 1: shout out to the Suns man. I went to Katy's
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: house once Freddie Gibbs during the pandemic had his birthday. There.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: It was like a little barbecue and I was wearing
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: a son's Rex Chapman jersey, and I got I talked
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: with KD for about forty five minutes and he was
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: giving me props and I was like, I've told him.
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  Speaker 1: Then I was like, hey, man, would you ever come
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  Speaker 1: to Phoenix. He had just went to Brooklyn, you know,
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: so I like Phoenix. I was like, man, look, well
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: have you buddy any time? Looking it ended up working out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to give you my jerseys to get
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  Speaker 1: him signed though, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. Anyway, Well listen
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  Speaker 1: for you. What is what do you think the difference
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: was between your last two projects? Because I do feel
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: like your last two projects did kind of put you
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: in a different place in terms of I think recognition, notoriety,
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: even though you're a veteran, even though you've been doing
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: this for Honestly, man, I think it's just time and
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: m Yeah, because prior to that, I haven't released in
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  Speaker 1: two years. My last project came out in twenty twenty, right,
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  Speaker 1: so I wasn't even in expecting this kind of response.
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I was just warming back up because
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I was kind of cold, right, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: So when I put it out, you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the quality of the music and the time, and you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, That's really all it is. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't do nothing different, yo, I'm telling you though, Man,
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  Speaker 1: you're one of the greats. Man. You know, I appreciate
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: that forreat, no real shit, Like when it comes to
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: this rapping shit, Yeah, I'm knocking shit down, man, and
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: you be so smooth. I appreciate that shit you be
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: saying in the way you say it. It just be
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: like it's not just like some low hanging fruit like
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: rap shit. You know, because a lot of people get
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: credit for like being great rappers and like they're great,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: but like they're really just saying like some really like
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: low hanging fruit shit. You'd be saying the slickest shit
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, yeah, like that's some life lesson
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: shit wrapped up into some like Yeah, I appreciate it
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: for sure. Man. Is there anybody out there besides you know,
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  Speaker 1: the immediate guys we'd associate you with when it comes
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: to like Benny and Conwey, those guys who you're just
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: a fan of from far like who You're just like, yo,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I see what this guy's doing. I might not have
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: worked with them yet, but I fuck with their I
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: just fuck with their talent, their skill, their music, whatever
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: it might be. From I like the l Russell Kid.
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  Speaker 1: He's dope, amazing, and you guys have a crazy independent
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  Speaker 1: hustle to pay what you want. You know. I like
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: that kid too. He's dope too. I think he's he's dope,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's he's got very entertaining raps.
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  Speaker 1: I always say, like, I haven't heard someone talk about
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  Speaker 1: pimping in the in a way like that. It's too short.
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  Speaker 1: When I was a kid and that's two times is great.
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: But Larrussell, I feel like you guys should connect because
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: you guys, you've been building this community with your fan
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  Speaker 1: base for so long, and I feel like he's all
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: about the similar like staying independent, building community with your fans,
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  Speaker 1: giving them an opportunity to kind of back up what
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: you're doing with their with their pocketbook, because like you said, man,
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: that streaming shit is like somebody can stream your at
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  Speaker 1: a hoodie, you know what I'm saying. And it's like
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  Speaker 1: to them, they're like all I do is listen to this.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: But it's like, man, if you're really independent, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's important that you figure out ways to monetize your
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: fan base and give them opportunity to support because they
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: really do want to support. It's not like you're taking
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: advantage of your fans. You're giving like, Hey, they want
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  Speaker 1: to support. They know what's up. They know you're not
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: on a major label. You know what I'm saying, right, Yeah, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: now the fans show love many they support heavy for you,
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  Speaker 1: I think that you're a high level MC. You're me
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  Speaker 1: and you are probably similar in age in terms of
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: probably the type of shit we grew up listening to.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: What are your like, top five albums, albums ever, not
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: the best album, but your personal favorite. First, I'm gonna
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: say Ready to Die. M I mean, no Life after Death,
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  Speaker 1: life life after That, But I mean some people like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Ready to Die because the nostalgia purposes. Now I realize,
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  Speaker 1: my time. Life after Death I connected with you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So I would say Life after Death,
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  Speaker 1: Mob Deep Murder Music Okay, jay Z Blueprint all right,
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  Speaker 1: nahs it was written great, great NAS album, Firmative Actions,
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  Speaker 1: Top five no song ever Doctor dreda chronic the first one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I like that. The West Coast in there, Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: that was the first that I remember the ogs like playing.
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  Speaker 1: I really had a heavy influence on my all my
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: you know, and yeah, that shit was heavy. Talk about
• 19:35
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  Speaker 1: guys have crazy chemistry together working on a project, partnering
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: up with KD. But what is it about Ransom? You guys,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I feel like have each kind of had your own
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: interesting route through the music industry. But you guys are
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  Speaker 1: both still here. You guys are I feel like each
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: hitting your stride in a way that like it's dope
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  Speaker 1: to see because I remember getting like Ransom a team
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  Speaker 1: shit like fuck might I might have been in high
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, right, But it's just dope to kind
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  Speaker 1: of see you guys work together, and I feel like
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you guys do have similar come ups in a way,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: you know, talk about your guys' friendship and partnership and
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: what it is about Rand that you guys click so well.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: You know, man, me and Ran we alike in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways, and shit, we really do our own
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: thing and we ain't really don't play the politic game,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you know, like this shit is really based on politics
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, so,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: like me and Ran, we both got the same attitude
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  Speaker 1: that we fuck with who fuck with us? You know
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Might we ain't going to the events,
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  Speaker 1: We're not gonna be seen, We're not shaking too many hands.
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  Speaker 1: We really fuck with who fuck with us? You know
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: that should hinder you in this. It'll also make you
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: question whether or not you're doing the right shit right.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: It'll subconsciously also influence the music if you actually get
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: too worried about I didn't go to the Rap Caviard
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: party for the Grammys or you know all this bullshit?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, right, And not to say
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that's bullshit because I've been on the Rap Caviar podcast
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  Speaker 1: a lot, you know, and from all of that now
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I'm playing politics shit, you know. I could see like
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I was always a fan of Ran, but as a
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: point of time he stopped rapping and I understood he
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: was going through And at that point of time, I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: realized that it was a way for us to monetize
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: without having to play the politics game. Yep, So, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I went and hollered at him. I had one conversation
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: with him, and he was back active with a vengeance
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: he's been on his ship and he's been going crazy
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: for sure, you know what I'm saying. So like since then,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, we we built a lot of a lot
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: of music, you know what I'm saying, and just built
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a strong partnership. You know what I'm saying. What is
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: this album sounded like that you're working on with mister Durant?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Is Is it an EP? Is it a full project?
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Is it? Like? Honestly, it sounded like some real soul,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: full heart felt you know what I'm saying, some real
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: soul for hall felt shit. Right now, we got we
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: we've been working with the producer Bank. Oh yeah, Binker's
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  Speaker 1: a legend. Yeah. Bank is going to produce the whole album.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, so you know yeah, Bink's alegend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Bink is definitely a legend. That's hard. Yeah, so that's
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: going to be crazy to me, Ryan and Bank. Yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: that's crazy. You know what it's gonna happen. You guys
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: are gona putut this crazy body of work and now
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: you guys are gonna have to drop one off like
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: once a year for the fans. Yeah, we're ready. We
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: prepared for that. Yeah, we prepared for that. So much,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: so much in the works. Man, Hell yeah for you?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Was there? What was the catalyst to make you kind
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of realize that it wasn't about all the politicking, that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: there was an actual road to not being on a
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: major label, not doing things a conventional way, but yet
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: still getting to the money get into a career. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's all. It was like. Man, once I made a
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• 23:07
  Speaker 1: all I gotta do is multiply this. Whatever I did
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to make this amount started with me being able to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: pay my bills off of music. You know, that was
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: which is a big deal. That was a huge deal.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: If you can support yourself on your music, you made
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it right that period and you know it started was
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: like oh wow, like and I would. That's when I
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, changed my whole lifestyle. I said,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: if I could pay my bills off this, I'm not
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. If I'm doing anything else, I'm being greedy. Yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you're being greedy, You're and you're jeopardizing them, you know
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so so that's where it started.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So then it was like a if I pay my bills,
• 23:43
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• 23:45
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• 23:48
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• 23:50
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• 23:53
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• 24:00
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• 24:05
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• 24:08
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  Speaker 1: plan B. Subconsciously, Yeah, you're preparing for the plan for.
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• 24:17
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• 24:20
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• 24:23
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• 24:26
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• 24:29
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• 24:32
  Speaker 1: So that's basically was my turnaround when I was like,
• 24:35
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• 24:37
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• 24:41
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• 24:44
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's basically what it is. When I,
• 24:46
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• 24:51
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• 25:06
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• 25:09
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• 25:14
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• 25:17
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• 25:21
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• 25:31
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• 25:33
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• 25:38
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• 25:39
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• 25:43
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• 25:47
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  Speaker 1: the interview. What was the project working with Harry Fraud like?
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  Speaker 1: Because Harry Fraud is another one of those guys who,
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he's got classic music and I still
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• 29:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So that was dope. You know.
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• 29:36
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• 29:39
  Speaker 1: five days. He's doing well. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I was
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• 29:50
  Speaker 1: out He had a bunch of beats to the side
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: for me. I picked out probably like four, and then
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: we actually dug through samples for the rest and from scratch,
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  Speaker 1: all from scratch. That's why that it sounds so beautiful
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  Speaker 1: was my first time working with a producer like that,
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  Speaker 1: like collaborating, elaborating like that, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: Like like like you're helping find a sample, like like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's one of the greatest producers of all time,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: right right, right right, But you know with me being yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: hell yeah. So like that ship, that ship was a beautiful,
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  Speaker 1: features after because there's some great interest. We went and
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  Speaker 1: got the features after. Yeah, Harry reached out and got
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  Speaker 1: Jim and Wizz. You know what I'm saying. I went
• 30:50
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• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to wiz Man because you'll always see Whiz still pop
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  Speaker 1: up on like independent rap shit all that's big man,
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  Speaker 1: that's fire man. Shout out, Wiz, did he did you?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Obviously he's up on what you're doing if he decided
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to do it, because he's not doing anything. I don't
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: think you can pay Whiz to get on the record.
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  Speaker 1: I take that back. You could definitely pay anybody to
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• 31:27
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• 31:30
  Speaker 1: chopping up at all? Was it more of a hairy thing?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: It was a thing. Yeah, you know what came out Dope.
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  Speaker 1: Appreciate that came out super Dope. Now this year at
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  Speaker 1: least three projects, three joints. How many songs is on
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  Speaker 1: this new album? Nah? So I kind of like how
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: you keep it? Yeah, manageable. I'll be trying to tell guys,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: you don't got to give him too much. If I
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  Speaker 1: gave him twenty, right, you could do two albums. And
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: even if I gave him twenty, yeah, it's only gonna
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: last the same amount of time. They ain't gonna appreciate
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: it the last the same amount of time. What's good
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: about your fans though, is that they consume projects, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I think that, like I agree with you, eight nine,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: ten records is enough right certain artists. To me, it's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: the same thing with when I think of seeing when
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I see artists was zero fans putting out albums. It's
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: frustrating because I'm like, yo, that's like one impression. You
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  Speaker 1: take that album and put out ten singles if you
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: don't have fans, and then let each one of those
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  Speaker 1: songs equal a new impression. You know what I mean?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: For you, you have fans, so they wanted your body,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and you're really good at putting together bodies. Of work.
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  Speaker 1: Not everybody that so appreciate that. Who's taking care of
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  Speaker 1: production on this one? You told me? Oh yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I gotta I produced. I don't even produce one joint
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  Speaker 1: on this and I went around, Damn man, Harry's on there. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I got a joint with Harry. I got a kid
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  Speaker 1: named Don Carrera that I just discovered fire and uh,
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  Speaker 1: ship man, you gotta pardon me. I've been working on
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  Speaker 1: so much. Damn you just said you have, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this album, you know you gotta part me if what
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  Speaker 1: about features on this one? That's dropping? That's all what's
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  Speaker 1: technically out? Oh yeah, so right now on this one,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: I kept a home team. I got Ransom, I got
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  Speaker 1: shan On, I got Fred Degason made rest and paces
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I got Flee Lord
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  Speaker 1: shout out to fleelord man. Yeah, I kept it. I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: kept it all in the house, kept it easy. I
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  Speaker 1: like it. Man. What are you aspiring to do with
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: the Trust brand? Are we signing artists? Are we trying
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  Speaker 1: to because I think you could low key do a
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: lot of consulting for like some of these labels or
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: some of these artists who need help with figuring out
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: how to connect with their fan base. And I agree,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I agree, and ship. You know what I'm saying. Maybe
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: when I get a little more time on my hands
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  Speaker 1: and ship, you know what I'm saying, I be more
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: open to, like, you know, dealing with more artists and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But right now it'd be
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: hard to focus on me. And you know, what's the
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: distro situation for you? Are you doing like a straight
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: distro kid tune core? You got? So I deal with
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I deal with I deal with a few different I
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: got a few different distro situations. I deal with Orchard,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I deal with mone Art which was E one yep.
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  Speaker 1: I deal with Empire as well, So you know, I
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: dealt with them all. You know what I mean? You know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: but yes, that's what I do. I don't really do
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: the distro kid or the tune call for several different reasons.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: And ship because you know, a lot of artists don't
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: know that when you want to build come up, you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: those platforms ain't gonna give you the visibility that you
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  Speaker 1: really need. Well, they're not gonna pitch you. They're not
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: gonna pitch you, right, and that's a big deal. So
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: like you know, but also Ron James posting your song
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: about all the DI visibility, I mean you can tell. Yeah,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: so yeah, it's all about It's like, it's really all
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: about your situation. I just think I think with distroal Kid,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I work with Empire, so I got
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: love for Gazi in that whole team. I just think
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: that the upside for distal Kid, if you're an independent artist,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: is an easy way to pay people because they have
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the split system. So if like he makes a beat
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and you could upload on, you can upload it and
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: his account gets They got their own account system, producer
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: for the feature whatever the shit cutting the guy who
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: shopped the video, you know what I mean, and then
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: everyone's getting paid out and you don't have to worry
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: about that ship. But yeah, no, teach his own man,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: all right. So we got tons of new music on
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: the way for sure, three projects. The album is out.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It'll be on streaming services though win three thirty one Friday,
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  Speaker 1: three thirty one, three thirty one. If you buy the
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: album right now, you can buy it for thirty eight
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: dollars or more or more whatever you want to do
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: in five thousand with me, you know, new album with
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Ransom on the Way definitely and Kevin durant is Katie
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: does he have a verse? Not yet, not yet. You
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: might pop up on that though, Okay. Uh. Conway album
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: Special Machinery definitely June, July, August maybe definitely. Then another
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: album and then maybe a new album with Benny. Yeah, Jesus, yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: you ain't playing man, Yeah, I'm loaded, man loaded. Well,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: look I appreciate you pulling up. Man. Always go support
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: this guy. The new album is out, new album is
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: out right now, make sure y'all go and get that. Hey,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: can you give me, give me your favorite off of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this new album? In your head? What's your favorite? Like
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: couple of lines you have on the album? Oh shit, damn.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: He's like, I don't remember what's on the album because
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I'm recording thirty I'm trying to think. Uh, don't compare
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: me to generic rap dudes. These niggas talking about birds
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: they never seen, like they pterodactyls. There it is thirty
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  Speaker 1: eight Special, my guy, my god, boo fire