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- 0:45It's
- 0:45around
- 0:46the
- 0:46house.
- 0:46In
- 0:47this
- 0:47episode
- 0:47we've
- 0:48got
- 0:48one
- 0:48of
- 0:48my
- 0:48favorite
- 0:49interviews
- 0:49we
- 0:50just
- 0:50did
- 0:50with
- 0:50my
- 0:51buddy
- 0:51Andrew
- 0:51Pace,
- 0:52green
- 0:52building
- 0:53expert.
- 0:53And
- 0:53this
- 0:54is
- 0:54gonna
- 0:54be
- 0:54a
- 0:54lot
- 0:54of
- 0:54fun.
- 0:55But
- 0:55here's
- 0:55the
- 0:55thing,
- 0:56it
- 0:56can't
- 0:56all
- 0:56fit
- 0:57into
- 0:57the
- 0:57radio
- 0:57show
- 0:58cause
- 0:58it
- 0:58was
- 0:58over
- 0:59an
- 0:59hour.
- 0:59So
- 1:00make
- 1:00sure
- 1:00you
- 1:00hit
- 1:00our
- 1:01premium
- 1:01membership
- 1:01over
- 1:02there
- 1:02where
- 1:02you
- 1:02can
- 1:02catch
- 1:02the
- 1:03whole
- 1:03thing
- 1:03commercial
- 1:04free
- 1:04and
- 1:04ten
- 1:04days
- 1:05free
- 1:05for
- 1:05that.
- 1:05So
- 1:05head
- 1:06over
- 1:06to
- 1:06aroundthehouseonline.com
- 1:08and
- 1:08sign
- 1:08up
- 1:08there.
- 1:09This
- 1:09is
- 1:09an
- 1:09interview
- 1:10you
- 1:10don't
- 1:10wanna
- 1:11miss.
- 1:11And
- 1:11we
- 1:12even
- 1:12talk
- 1:12whiskey
- 1:13around
- 1:13the
- 1:13house
- 1:13shows
- 1:14brought
- 1:14to
- 1:14you
- 1:14by
- 1:14pyramid
- 1:15heating
- 1:15and
- 1:15cooling
- 1:16serving
- 1:16in
- 1:17Oregon,
- 1:17the
- 1:17Portland
- 1:18metro
- 1:18area
- 1:18and
- 1:19Bend,
- 1:19Oregon.
- 1:20They
- 1:20are
- 1:20your
- 1:20one
- 1:20stop
- 1:21shop
- 1:21for
- 1:21heating
- 1:21and
- 1:22cooling
- 1:22and
- 1:22indoor
- 1:23air
- 1:23quality.
- 1:24Head
- 1:24to
- 1:24pyramidheating.com
- 1:26Oregon
- 1:26CCB
- 1:2659382.
- 1:28When
- 1:28it
- 1:28comes
- 1:29to
- 1:29remodeling
- 1:29and
- 1:29renovating
- 1:30your
- 1:30home,
- 1:30there
- 1:31is
- 1:31a
- 1:31lot
- 1:32to.
- 1:32Know,
- 1:32but
- 1:33we've
- 1:33got
- 1:33you
- 1:33covered.
- 1:34This
- 1:35is
- 1:35around
- 1:35the
- 1:36house.
- 1:36Welcome
- 1:37to
- 1:37the
- 1:37round
- 1:37the
- 1:38house
- 1:38show,
- 1:38the
- 1:38next
- 1:39generation
- 1:39of
- 1:40home
- 1:40improvement
- 1:41brought
- 1:41to
- 1:41you
- 1:41my
- 1:41friends
- 1:42over
- 1:43at
- 1:43monument
- 1:43grills.
- 1:44To
- 1:44find
- 1:44out
- 1:44more,
- 1:44head
- 1:44to
- 1:45monumentgrills.com.
- 1:46and
- 1:47we
- 1:47have
- 1:47a
- 1:48fabulous
- 1:49show
- 1:49today.
- 1:50One
- 1:50of
- 1:50my
- 1:50good
- 1:51buddies
- 1:51that
- 1:51every
- 1:51time
- 1:52he
- 1:52comes
- 1:52on
- 1:52here,
- 1:53we
- 1:53get
- 1:53off
- 1:54on
- 1:54sidetracks.
- 1:54We
- 1:55have
- 1:55a
- 1:55lot
- 1:55of
- 1:55fun
- 1:56talking
- 1:56about
- 1:57everything,
- 1:57healthy
- 1:58home
- 1:58and
- 1:58maybe
- 1:59a
- 1:59little
- 1:59whiskey,
- 2:00even
- 2:00if
- 2:00we
- 2:00can
- 2:00slide
- 2:01that
- 2:01into
- 2:01the
- 2:01conversation.
- 2:02Andrew
- 2:02Pace,
- 2:03Andy
- 2:03Pace,
- 2:03my
- 2:04friend,
- 2:04welcome
- 2:04back
- 2:05to
- 2:05around
- 2:05the
- 2:05house.
- 2:06Thank
- 2:06you,
- 2:07Eric.
- 2:07I'll
- 2:07tell
- 2:07you
- 2:07what,
- 2:08I've
- 2:08been
- 2:08looking
- 2:08forward
- 2:08to
- 2:09this
- 2:09conversation
- 2:09since
- 2:10I
- 2:10found
- 2:10out
- 2:11about
- 2:11it
- 2:11again
- 2:11because,
- 2:11yeah,
- 2:12you
- 2:12and
- 2:12I
- 2:12always
- 2:12get
- 2:13into
- 2:13these
- 2:13great
- 2:13conversations.
- 2:14A
- 2:15little
- 2:15bit
- 2:15of
- 2:15some
- 2:15side
- 2:16tangents
- 2:16that
- 2:17are
- 2:17always
- 2:18enjoyable.
- 2:19But
- 2:19this
- 2:19is
- 2:19fantastic.
- 2:20Great,
- 2:20great
- 2:20to
- 2:20see
- 2:20you
- 2:21again.
- 2:21Ah,
- 2:22great
- 2:22to
- 2:22have
- 2:22you
- 2:22on
- 2:22here.
- 2:22It's
- 2:23been
- 2:23way
- 2:23too
- 2:23long.
- 2:24Let's
- 2:24talk
- 2:24about
- 2:24you
- 2:24for
- 2:24a
- 2:24minute.
- 2:25For
- 2:25all
- 2:25the
- 2:25new
- 2:25people
- 2:25out
- 2:26there,
- 2:26you've
- 2:27got
- 2:27the
- 2:27green
- 2:27design
- 2:28center.
- 2:28You
- 2:28are
- 2:29one
- 2:29of
- 2:29my
- 2:30probably
- 2:30two
- 2:30people
- 2:31that
- 2:31I
- 2:31reach
- 2:31out
- 2:31to
- 2:32and
- 2:32I'm
- 2:32like,
- 2:32okay,
- 2:33I
- 2:34got
- 2:34to
- 2:34figure
- 2:34a
- 2:34healthy
- 2:35solution
- 2:35out
- 2:36here.
- 2:36And
- 2:36usually
- 2:37get
- 2:37my
- 2:37emails
- 2:37or
- 2:37LinkedIn
- 2:38messages
- 2:38going,
- 2:39what
- 2:39do
- 2:39we
- 2:39do
- 2:39about
- 2:40this?
- 2:40And
- 2:40it's
- 2:40always
- 2:41something
- 2:41strange.
- 2:42Yeah,
- 2:42thats
- 2:43actually
- 2:44my
- 2:44career
- 2:44has
- 2:44been
- 2:44made
- 2:45on
- 2:45answering
- 2:45those
- 2:46tough
- 2:46questions
- 2:47quickly.
- 2:48I
- 2:48work
- 2:48with
- 2:48people
- 2:49all
- 2:49around
- 2:49the
- 2:49world
- 2:49who
- 2:50have
- 2:50allergies,
- 2:51asthma,
- 2:51chemical
- 2:52sensitivities,
- 2:52mold
- 2:53sensitivities,
- 2:54pretty
- 2:54much
- 2:54anybody
- 2:55who
- 2:55has
- 2:56an
- 2:56immune
- 2:56system
- 2:57disorder
- 2:58that
- 2:58doesnt
- 2:59allow
- 2:59them
- 2:59to
- 3:00live
- 3:01in
- 3:01the
- 3:02current
- 3:02state
- 3:02of
- 3:03our
- 3:03home
- 3:03buildings.
- 3:04And
- 3:04so
- 3:05anything
- 3:05that
- 3:05could
- 3:06cause
- 3:06a
- 3:06reaction
- 3:07to
- 3:07for
- 3:08somebody
- 3:08would
- 3:08be
- 3:09chemical,
- 3:09off
- 3:09gassing,
- 3:10mold,
- 3:11bacteria,
- 3:12you
- 3:12name
- 3:12it.
- 3:12So
- 3:12I
- 3:12help
- 3:13folks
- 3:13remodel,
- 3:14design
- 3:15and
- 3:15build
- 3:16healthy
- 3:16homes.
- 3:17And
- 3:17there
- 3:17are
- 3:18so
- 3:18many,
- 3:18I'm
- 3:18going
- 3:18to
- 3:18use
- 3:19this
- 3:19because
- 3:19it's
- 3:19politically
- 3:19incorrect
- 3:20and
- 3:20I
- 3:20don't
- 3:20care
- 3:20because
- 3:21that's
- 3:21my
- 3:21style.
- 3:21But
- 3:22there
- 3:22are
- 3:22so
- 3:22many
- 3:22old
- 3:23wives
- 3:23tales
- 3:24out
- 3:24there
- 3:24of
- 3:25how
- 3:25to
- 3:25deal
- 3:25with
- 3:25things
- 3:25that
- 3:26are
- 3:26completely
- 3:27the
- 3:28wrong
- 3:28answers,
- 3:28only
- 3:29answer
- 3:29to
- 3:29do
- 3:29stuff.
- 3:30And
- 3:30it's
- 3:30shocking
- 3:31where
- 3:31people
- 3:31are
- 3:31like,
- 3:32oh,
- 3:32go
- 3:32do
- 3:32this.
- 3:32And
- 3:33it's
- 3:33like,
- 3:33what
- 3:34are
- 3:34you
- 3:34talking
- 3:34about
- 3:35making
- 3:35that
- 3:35worse?
- 3:35Like
- 3:35that?
- 3:36Its
- 3:37funny
- 3:37you
- 3:38mentioned
- 3:38this
- 3:38right
- 3:38away
- 3:39because
- 3:39the
- 3:40hot
- 3:40topic
- 3:41lately
- 3:41has
- 3:42been
- 3:42if
- 3:42your
- 3:42house
- 3:43has
- 3:43a
- 3:43lot
- 3:43of
- 3:43chemicals
- 3:44coming
- 3:44from
- 3:44the
- 3:44building
- 3:45materials,
- 3:45what
- 3:45you
- 3:45should
- 3:45do
- 3:46is
- 3:46do
- 3:46whats
- 3:47called
- 3:47a
- 3:47bakeout
- 3:47where
- 3:47you
- 3:48heat
- 3:48up
- 3:48the
- 3:48house
- 3:49and
- 3:49that
- 3:50excites
- 3:51all
- 3:51the
- 3:51chemicals
- 3:52and
- 3:52the
- 3:52materials
- 3:53and
- 3:53it
- 3:53allows
- 3:53them
- 3:54to
- 3:54off
- 3:54gas
- 3:54faster.
- 3:55And
- 3:55ill
- 3:55tell
- 3:55you
- 3:55folks,
- 3:56thats
- 3:56the
- 3:56absolute
- 3:57worst
- 3:57thing
- 3:57you
- 3:57want
- 3:57to
- 3:58do
- 3:58in
- 3:58your
- 3:58house
- 3:59because
- 4:00yes,
- 4:00you
- 4:00will
- 4:01get
- 4:01more
- 4:02chemical
- 4:02release,
- 4:03but
- 4:03you
- 4:04also
- 4:04get
- 4:04new
- 4:04chemical
- 4:05compounds
- 4:06being
- 4:06formed
- 4:06that
- 4:06wouldn't
- 4:07be
- 4:07there
- 4:07unless
- 4:07you
- 4:08heated
- 4:08it
- 4:08up
- 4:08to
- 4:08that
- 4:09temperature.
- 4:09Not
- 4:10to
- 4:10mention
- 4:10this
- 4:11is
- 4:11only
- 4:11effective
- 4:12if
- 4:13you
- 4:13do
- 4:13this
- 4:13at
- 4:14100
- 4:14degrees
- 4:15for
- 4:15two
- 4:16weeks
- 4:16straight.
- 4:17And
- 4:17by
- 4:18that
- 4:18time,
- 4:18you
- 4:18have
- 4:18now
- 4:19voided
- 4:19every
- 4:20warranty
- 4:20for
- 4:20every
- 4:21building
- 4:21material
- 4:21you
- 4:21use.
- 4:22So
- 4:22that's
- 4:22good
- 4:23on
- 4:23the
- 4:23list,
- 4:23right?
- 4:24Exactly.
- 4:24Exactly.
- 4:25And
- 4:25the
- 4:26funny
- 4:26thing
- 4:26is,
- 4:26is
- 4:27maybe
- 4:27all
- 4:27of
- 4:27those
- 4:28plastics
- 4:28in
- 4:28your
- 4:29house
- 4:29that
- 4:29finally
- 4:30the
- 4:30oils
- 4:31on
- 4:31the
- 4:31outside
- 4:31have
- 4:32finally
- 4:32off
- 4:33gassed
- 4:33and
- 4:34they're
- 4:34slowed
- 4:34down,
- 4:35you
- 4:35are
- 4:35hitting
- 4:35the
- 4:36control
- 4:36alt
- 4:36delete
- 4:37restart
- 4:38on
- 4:38those
- 4:38as
- 4:38well.
- 4:39Right?
- 4:39Common
- 4:39sense
- 4:40says
- 4:40that
- 4:40for
- 4:41sure.
- 4:41We
- 4:41know
- 4:41that
- 4:42a
- 4:42lot
- 4:43of
- 4:43building
- 4:43materials
- 4:43that
- 4:43are
- 4:44used,
- 4:44let's
- 4:44say
- 4:44materials
- 4:45that
- 4:45finish
- 4:46or
- 4:46cure
- 4:46on
- 4:46site,
- 4:47paints,
- 4:47stains,
- 4:48adhesives,
- 4:49caulking
- 4:49materials,
- 4:50those
- 4:50can
- 4:51off
- 4:51gas
- 4:51anywhere
- 4:51from
- 4:52about
- 4:52two
- 4:52and
- 4:52a
- 4:52half
- 4:52to
- 4:52four
- 4:53and
- 4:53a
- 4:53half
- 4:53years
- 4:53after
- 4:53they
- 4:54reach
- 4:54a
- 4:54full
- 4:54cure.
- 4:55Other
- 4:55materials
- 4:56like
- 4:56plywood
- 4:57and
- 4:57plastics,
- 4:58the
- 4:59off
- 4:59gassing
- 5:00never
- 5:00really
- 5:01is
- 5:01fully
- 5:02complete,
- 5:02but
- 5:03the
- 5:03majority
- 5:04of
- 5:04it
- 5:04will
- 5:05release
- 5:05within
- 5:05those
- 5:05first
- 5:06few
- 5:06years.
- 5:07If
- 5:07you
- 5:07now
- 5:07expose
- 5:08it
- 5:08to
- 5:08this
- 5:08new
- 5:09temperature
- 5:09that
- 5:09its
- 5:10not
- 5:10supposed
- 5:10to
- 5:10be
- 5:11at,
- 5:11it
- 5:11can
- 5:12then
- 5:12start
- 5:12the
- 5:12process
- 5:12all
- 5:13over
- 5:13again.
- 5:13So,
- 5:13yeah,
- 5:14I
- 5:14hear
- 5:15that
- 5:15all
- 5:15the
- 5:15time
- 5:15from
- 5:16customers.
- 5:16I
- 5:16think
- 5:16there
- 5:16was
- 5:17an
- 5:17article
- 5:17written
- 5:18about
- 5:1925
- 5:19years
- 5:19ago
- 5:20by
- 5:20a
- 5:20scientist
- 5:21named
- 5:21Hal
- 5:21Levin,
- 5:22wrote
- 5:22this
- 5:22article
- 5:23on
- 5:23how
- 5:23you
- 5:23can
- 5:24do
- 5:24a
- 5:24bakeout,
- 5:25but
- 5:25then
- 5:25he
- 5:25came
- 5:26back
- 5:26out
- 5:26with
- 5:26an
- 5:26article
- 5:27right
- 5:27afterwards
- 5:27saying,
- 5:28but
- 5:28don't
- 5:28do
- 5:28it
- 5:28because
- 5:30you
- 5:30can't
- 5:30do
- 5:30this
- 5:31effectively
- 5:31in
- 5:31a
- 5:31home
- 5:32without
- 5:32causing
- 5:33a
- 5:33whole
- 5:33host
- 5:33of
- 5:33problems.
- 5:33So
- 5:34don't
- 5:34even
- 5:34try,
- 5:34Evan.
- 5:34I
- 5:34think
- 5:35the
- 5:35only
- 5:35thing
- 5:35you
- 5:35might
- 5:35do
- 5:35is
- 5:36kill
- 5:36some
- 5:36bedbugs,
- 5:37and
- 5:37that's
- 5:37probably.
- 5:37You
- 5:37might
- 5:37do
- 5:38that.
- 5:38Yeah.
- 5:39It'll
- 5:39certainly
- 5:40increase
- 5:40your
- 5:40energy
- 5:41costs
- 5:41for
- 5:41a
- 5:41while.
- 5:42It
- 5:42just.
- 5:42It's
- 5:43a
- 5:43bad
- 5:43idea,
- 5:43Evan.
- 5:44Oh,
- 5:44man.
- 5:44I
- 5:44can.
- 5:44I
- 5:45just.
- 5:45I'm
- 5:45thinking
- 5:46of
- 5:46the.
- 5:46The
- 5:47different
- 5:47systems
- 5:47in
- 5:48your
- 5:48house
- 5:48that
- 5:48are
- 5:48gonna
- 5:48go
- 5:48sideways
- 5:49with
- 5:49that,
- 5:49and
- 5:49that's
- 5:50just
- 5:50not
- 5:50good.
- 5:51Not
- 5:51good
- 5:51at
- 5:51all.
- 5:51But
- 5:52it's
- 5:52the
- 5:52same
- 5:52thing
- 5:52about.
- 5:53On
- 5:53social
- 5:53media
- 5:54posts
- 5:54out
- 5:54there,
- 5:54people
- 5:55just
- 5:55going,
- 5:55oh,
- 5:56yeah,
- 5:56just
- 5:57take
- 5:57that
- 5:57bleach
- 5:58and
- 5:58wipe
- 5:58down
- 5:58all
- 5:58the
- 5:59mold,
- 5:59and
- 5:59you'll
- 5:59be
- 5:59good
- 5:59to
- 6:00go.
- 6:00And
- 6:00you
- 6:00can
- 6:00cover
- 6:00it
- 6:01right
- 6:01up
- 6:01and
- 6:01go
- 6:01right
- 6:01over
- 6:01the
- 6:02top
- 6:02of
- 6:02it.
- 6:03And
- 6:03I'm
- 6:03just
- 6:03like,
- 6:04I
- 6:04don't
- 6:04care
- 6:05what
- 6:05you're
- 6:05using,
- 6:05guys.
- 6:06Let's
- 6:06just
- 6:06put
- 6:06the
- 6:07bleach
- 6:07away.
- 6:07I
- 6:08don't
- 6:08really
- 6:08have
- 6:08a
- 6:08good
- 6:09cause
- 6:09for
- 6:10bleach
- 6:10to
- 6:10be
- 6:10used.
- 6:10There's
- 6:11so
- 6:11many
- 6:11better
- 6:12products
- 6:12out
- 6:12there,
- 6:13even
- 6:13if
- 6:13it's
- 6:13on
- 6:13a
- 6:13hard
- 6:14surface.
- 6:15Right.
- 6:15I
- 6:16think
- 6:16that
- 6:16we
- 6:16get
- 6:17to
- 6:17the
- 6:17situation
- 6:18where,
- 6:19because
- 6:19somebody
- 6:20does
- 6:20something
- 6:21for
- 6:21a
- 6:21living,
- 6:22they
- 6:22can
- 6:22call
- 6:22themselves
- 6:23an
- 6:23expert.
- 6:24I
- 6:24hear
- 6:24this
- 6:24all
- 6:24the
- 6:24time.
- 6:26To
- 6:26your
- 6:26point,
- 6:27contractor
- 6:28says,
- 6:28oh,
- 6:28yeah,
- 6:28just
- 6:28bleach
- 6:28the
- 6:29wood.
- 6:29It'll
- 6:29be
- 6:29fine.
- 6:29I've
- 6:30been
- 6:30doing
- 6:30this
- 6:30for
- 6:3030
- 6:30years.
- 6:31I've
- 6:31never
- 6:31had
- 6:31a
- 6:31problem.
- 6:32That's
- 6:32my
- 6:32favorite
- 6:32line.
- 6:32Okay.
- 6:33My
- 6:33response
- 6:33always
- 6:34is,
- 6:34I've
- 6:34been
- 6:35golfing
- 6:35for
- 6:3530
- 6:36years,
- 6:36and
- 6:36I'm
- 6:36still
- 6:36absolutely
- 6:37horrible.
- 6:38Just
- 6:38because
- 6:38you
- 6:39do
- 6:39something
- 6:39doesn't
- 6:40make
- 6:40you
- 6:41an
- 6:41expert
- 6:42at
- 6:42it.
- 6:42Just
- 6:42because
- 6:43somebody
- 6:43gives
- 6:43you
- 6:44money
- 6:44for
- 6:44something
- 6:44you
- 6:44do
- 6:45does
- 6:45not
- 6:45make
- 6:45you
- 6:45an
- 6:45expert.
- 6:46There
- 6:46are
- 6:47so
- 6:47many
- 6:47of
- 6:47these
- 6:47old,
- 6:48as
- 6:48you
- 6:48say,
- 6:48wives
- 6:48tales
- 6:50that
- 6:50people
- 6:51just
- 6:51assume
- 6:52work,
- 6:52otherwise
- 6:53they
- 6:53wouldn't
- 6:53be
- 6:53still
- 6:54saying
- 6:54this.
- 6:55There
- 6:55are
- 6:55so
- 6:55many
- 6:56of
- 6:56these
- 6:56issues
- 6:56that
- 6:57keep
- 6:57on
- 6:57getting
- 6:57perpetuated,
- 6:58and
- 6:58these
- 6:59ideas,
- 6:59they
- 7:00do
- 7:00not
- 7:00work.
- 7:00They
- 7:00cause
- 7:01bigger
- 7:01problems.
- 7:01Bleach
- 7:02especially
- 7:02makes
- 7:03mold
- 7:03worse.
- 7:04So
- 7:04do
- 7:05never
- 7:05bleach
- 7:05mold,
- 7:06Joe.
- 7:06Yeah.
- 7:07And
- 7:07what's
- 7:07bad
- 7:07is
- 7:08there's
- 7:08some.
- 7:08I
- 7:08think
- 7:08there's
- 7:09even
- 7:09some
- 7:09EPA
- 7:10documentation
- 7:10out
- 7:10there
- 7:11saying,
- 7:11oh,
- 7:11it
- 7:11works
- 7:11good
- 7:11on.
- 7:12On
- 7:13non
- 7:13porous
- 7:13surfaces.
- 7:14But
- 7:14I'm
- 7:14like,
- 7:14why
- 7:15make
- 7:15it
- 7:15worse?
- 7:16Maybe
- 7:16it
- 7:16does
- 7:16kill
- 7:17some
- 7:17of
- 7:17it.
- 7:17There's,
- 7:18like
- 7:18I
- 7:18said,
- 7:18so
- 7:18many
- 7:19better
- 7:19products,
- 7:19and
- 7:19I
- 7:20just
- 7:20wish
- 7:20the
- 7:20government
- 7:21would
- 7:21take
- 7:21that
- 7:21page
- 7:21down,
- 7:22because
- 7:22it's
- 7:22misinformation
- 7:23in
- 7:23my
- 7:23mind.
- 7:23It's
- 7:23just
- 7:24information
- 7:25in
- 7:25today's
- 7:26consumers.
- 7:27And
- 7:27this
- 7:27is
- 7:28not
- 7:28to
- 7:28rip
- 7:28on
- 7:28anybody
- 7:29in
- 7:29particular,
- 7:30but
- 7:30generally
- 7:31speaking,
- 7:31people
- 7:32skim
- 7:32information.
- 7:33Yeah.
- 7:34So
- 7:34you
- 7:34download
- 7:35this
- 7:35sheet
- 7:36on
- 7:36how
- 7:36to
- 7:36get
- 7:36rid
- 7:36of
- 7:36mold.
- 7:37Oh,
- 7:37it
- 7:37says,
- 7:37I
- 7:37can
- 7:37use
- 7:38bleach.
- 7:38Okay.
- 7:38I
- 7:38can
- 7:39use
- 7:39bleach.
- 7:40It
- 7:40says
- 7:40you
- 7:40can
- 7:40use
- 7:41bleach
- 7:41on
- 7:41non
- 7:41porous
- 7:42surfaces.
- 7:42You
- 7:43didn't
- 7:43read
- 7:43that
- 7:43next
- 7:43line.
- 7:44Yeah.
- 7:44And
- 7:44so
- 7:45I
- 7:46would
- 7:46rather
- 7:46err
- 7:46on
- 7:46the
- 7:47side
- 7:47of
- 7:47safe,
- 7:47and
- 7:48let's
- 7:48just
- 7:48not
- 7:48talk
- 7:48about
- 7:49it
- 7:49at
- 7:49all.
- 7:49Let's
- 7:50talk
- 7:50about
- 7:50what
- 7:50works
- 7:51in
- 7:51everything,
- 7:51and
- 7:52you
- 7:52don't
- 7:52have
- 7:52to
- 7:52worry
- 7:52about
- 7:52it,
- 7:53Evan.
- 7:53Yeah.
- 7:53And
- 7:53there's
- 7:54so
- 7:54many
- 7:54good
- 7:55preventative
- 7:56measures
- 7:56out
- 7:56there.
- 7:56Stuff
- 7:57that
- 7:57you
- 7:57got
- 7:57me
- 7:58lined
- 7:58up
- 7:58with
- 7:59out
- 7:59there
- 7:59in
- 7:59the
- 7:59past
- 7:59with.
- 8:00With
- 8:00stuff
- 8:01is.
- 8:01Is
- 8:02okay.
- 8:02You
- 8:02got
- 8:02the
- 8:03problem
- 8:03fixed,
- 8:03but
- 8:04you're
- 8:04still
- 8:04going
- 8:04to
- 8:04coat
- 8:04something
- 8:05over
- 8:05the
- 8:05top
- 8:05of
- 8:05it.
- 8:06Don't
- 8:06run
- 8:07down,
- 8:07and
- 8:07get
- 8:07the
- 8:08hardware
- 8:08store
- 8:09primer
- 8:10that
- 8:10says
- 8:10it's
- 8:10good
- 8:10for
- 8:11mold.
- 8:11Go
- 8:11get
- 8:11something
- 8:12like
- 8:12call
- 8:12well
- 8:12or
- 8:13something.
- 8:13And
- 8:13I
- 8:13got
- 8:13that
- 8:13from
- 8:14you.
- 8:14Yes.
- 8:15Yeah.
- 8:15And
- 8:15that
- 8:16the
- 8:16Callwell
- 8:17product
- 8:17has
- 8:17been
- 8:18an
- 8:18absolute
- 8:18lifesaver.
- 8:19The.
- 8:19The
- 8:20true
- 8:20method
- 8:20of
- 8:21remediating
- 8:22a
- 8:22mold
- 8:22situation
- 8:23without
- 8:23going
- 8:23down
- 8:24into
- 8:24a
- 8:24deep
- 8:24rabbit
- 8:24hole
- 8:25here.
- 8:25But
- 8:25the
- 8:25true
- 8:26method
- 8:26is
- 8:26to.
- 8:27They
- 8:27open
- 8:27up
- 8:27the
- 8:27wall.
- 8:28They
- 8:28do
- 8:28containment.
- 8:28They
- 8:29open
- 8:29up
- 8:29the
- 8:29walls.
- 8:30You're
- 8:30vacuuming,
- 8:31you're
- 8:31scraping,
- 8:31you're
- 8:32sanding,
- 8:32you're
- 8:32cleaning.
- 8:33Then
- 8:34when
- 8:34it's
- 8:34dry,
- 8:34you
- 8:34encapsulate,
- 8:35you
- 8:35put
- 8:36a
- 8:36coating
- 8:36on
- 8:36so
- 8:36that
- 8:37this
- 8:37situation
- 8:38can
- 8:38happen
- 8:38again.
- 8:39Call
- 8:39well
- 8:39is
- 8:39a
- 8:39little
- 8:39bit
- 8:40different.
- 8:40Call
- 8:40well.
- 8:41After
- 8:42you
- 8:42encapsulate
- 8:43and
- 8:43you
- 8:43vacuum
- 8:44to
- 8:44get
- 8:44rid
- 8:44of
- 8:44the
- 8:44loose
- 8:44material,
- 8:45you
- 8:45literally
- 8:46paint
- 8:46two
- 8:46coats
- 8:47over
- 8:47the
- 8:47moldy
- 8:48wood,
- 8:48and
- 8:49that's
- 8:49it.
- 8:49You're
- 8:49done.
- 8:50It
- 8:50saves
- 8:5175%
- 8:51of
- 8:51the
- 8:52labor.
- 8:52And
- 8:53the
- 8:53way
- 8:53it
- 8:53does,
- 8:53it's
- 8:54not
- 8:54by
- 8:54using
- 8:55some
- 8:55toxic
- 8:56science,
- 8:57scientific,
- 8:58noxious
- 8:59chemical.
- 8:59It
- 9:00uses
- 9:00lime.
- 9:01It
- 9:01uses
- 9:01calcium
- 9:02hydroxide,
- 9:03natural
- 9:03mineral.
- 9:04And
- 9:04it
- 9:04raises
- 9:05the
- 9:05ph
- 9:05of
- 9:05the
- 9:06surface
- 9:06so
- 9:06high
- 9:07that
- 9:07it
- 9:08kills
- 9:08mold
- 9:08on
- 9:08contact,
- 9:09and
- 9:09it
- 9:09stays
- 9:10active
- 9:10for
- 9:10a
- 9:11minimum
- 9:11of
- 9:11five
- 9:12years,
- 9:12which
- 9:12is
- 9:12unlike
- 9:13anything
- 9:13on
- 9:13the
- 9:13market.
- 9:14Yeah.
- 9:14PH
- 9:15is
- 9:15science.
- 9:15And
- 9:15when
- 9:16it
- 9:16gets
- 9:16to
- 9:16point
- 9:17where
- 9:17it's
- 9:17gonna
- 9:18not.
- 9:19Nothing's
- 9:19gonna
- 9:19grow
- 9:20on
- 9:20it,
- 9:20you've
- 9:20created
- 9:20something
- 9:21without
- 9:21off
- 9:22gassing
- 9:22and
- 9:22sending
- 9:23in
- 9:23your
- 9:23healthy
- 9:23air
- 9:24off
- 9:24into
- 9:24the.
- 9:25Into
- 9:25the
- 9:25stratosphere
- 9:26with
- 9:26bad
- 9:27contaminants.
- 9:27And
- 9:28we've
- 9:28got.
- 9:28We've
- 9:29literally
- 9:29have
- 9:30hundreds
- 9:30and
- 9:30hundreds
- 9:31of
- 9:31years
- 9:31of.
- 9:31Of
- 9:32experience
- 9:32using
- 9:33lime.
- 9:34Farmers
- 9:34use
- 9:34lime
- 9:35lime
- 9:35wash
- 9:35the
- 9:35barns
- 9:35to
- 9:36get
- 9:36rid
- 9:36of
- 9:36the
- 9:36mold.
- 9:37Villages
- 9:37throughout
- 9:38Europe
- 9:38since
- 9:39the
- 9:39plague
- 9:39have
- 9:40been
- 9:40using
- 9:40lime
- 9:41on
- 9:41their.
- 9:41On
- 9:41their
- 9:41homes
- 9:42to
- 9:43essentially
- 9:44stop
- 9:44the
- 9:44spread
- 9:44of.
- 9:45Of
- 9:45disease.
- 9:46So
- 9:46we
- 9:46know
- 9:46it
- 9:47works.
- 9:47So
- 9:48that.
- 9:48Another
- 9:49old
- 9:49wives
- 9:49tale,
- 9:50if
- 9:50it's
- 9:50not
- 9:50broke,
- 9:51don't
- 9:51fix
- 9:51it.
- 9:52I
- 9:52believe
- 9:52that
- 9:52one.
- 9:53This
- 9:53works.
- 9:53It's
- 9:53a
- 9:54natural
- 9:54material
- 9:54that
- 9:54works.
- 9:55Let's
- 9:55just
- 9:55stick
- 9:55with
- 9:55that.
- 9:56Its
- 9:56basic
- 9:56science.
- 9:57Lets
- 9:57go
- 9:57ahead
- 9:57and
- 9:57use
- 9:57it.
- 9:57Its
- 9:58something
- 9:58we
- 9:58learned
- 9:58in
- 9:58fifth
- 9:58grade.
- 9:59And
- 9:59it
- 10:00works.
- 10:00Its
- 10:01so
- 10:01smart.
- 10:01And
- 10:01I
- 10:01think
- 10:02topically,
- 10:03because
- 10:04its
- 10:05not
- 10:05been
- 10:05a
- 10:05bad
- 10:06hurricane
- 10:06season
- 10:07for
- 10:07most,
- 10:08but
- 10:08weve
- 10:08had
- 10:09a
- 10:09lot
- 10:09of
- 10:09storms
- 10:09on
- 10:10the
- 10:10east
- 10:10coast
- 10:10and
- 10:11across
- 10:11the
- 10:11south
- 10:11that
- 10:12have
- 10:12been
- 10:12really
- 10:12hitting
- 10:12people
- 10:13that
- 10:13maybe
- 10:14have
- 10:14been
- 10:14in
- 10:14homes
- 10:14for
- 10:14five
- 10:15years
- 10:15that
- 10:15have
- 10:16never
- 10:16had
- 10:16to
- 10:16deal
- 10:16with
- 10:17water
- 10:17intrusion
- 10:17issues,
- 10:18whether
- 10:18its
- 10:18in
- 10:18a
- 10:19first
- 10:19floor,
- 10:19a
- 10:20crawl
- 10:20space,
- 10:20or
- 10:20a
- 10:20basement.
- 10:21And
- 10:21these
- 10:22are
- 10:22some
- 10:22really
- 10:22good
- 10:23tried
- 10:23and
- 10:23true
- 10:23ways
- 10:23to
- 10:24deal
- 10:24with
- 10:24it
- 10:24because
- 10:24so
- 10:24many
- 10:24people,
- 10:25I
- 10:25see
- 10:26it
- 10:26on
- 10:26social
- 10:26media,
- 10:27hey,
- 10:27I
- 10:27had
- 10:2818
- 10:28inches
- 10:28of
- 10:28water
- 10:29in
- 10:29my
- 10:29basement
- 10:29and
- 10:30it's
- 10:30finished.
- 10:30So
- 10:30I'm
- 10:30going
- 10:30to
- 10:31take
- 10:31the
- 10:31drywall
- 10:31out
- 10:31and
- 10:31put
- 10:31new
- 10:32drywall
- 10:32on.
- 10:32Am
- 10:32I
- 10:32good?
- 10:33And
- 10:33it's
- 10:33just
- 10:33like,
- 10:34you're
- 10:34not
- 10:34dealing
- 10:34with
- 10:34this
- 10:35correctly.
- 10:35And
- 10:36it's,
- 10:36it's
- 10:37one
- 10:37of
- 10:37the
- 10:37things
- 10:37that
- 10:37we
- 10:37see
- 10:38here
- 10:38in
- 10:38the
- 10:38Pacific
- 10:38Northwest
- 10:39because
- 10:39we
- 10:39have
- 10:39a
- 10:39lot
- 10:39of
- 10:40basements
- 10:40and
- 10:40crawl
- 10:40spaces.
- 10:41House
- 10:41flippers
- 10:42go
- 10:42in
- 10:43and
- 10:43take
- 10:43an
- 10:43unfinished
- 10:44basement
- 10:45that's
- 10:45been
- 10:45unfinished
- 10:46for
- 10:4630
- 10:47years
- 10:47because
- 10:47of
- 10:47water
- 10:47intrusion
- 10:48issues.
- 10:49And
- 10:49they
- 10:49go
- 10:49in
- 10:49there
- 10:50and
- 10:50say,
- 10:50cool,
- 10:50let's
- 10:50go
- 10:50add
- 10:50another
- 10:51thousand
- 10:51square
- 10:51feet
- 10:51to
- 10:52the
- 10:52house.
- 10:52They
- 10:52finish
- 10:52it
- 10:53off
- 10:53incorrectly,
- 10:54and
- 10:54people
- 10:55move
- 10:55in
- 10:55and
- 10:56eight
- 10:56to
- 10:56ten
- 10:56weeks
- 10:56are
- 10:57going,
- 10:57why
- 10:57am
- 10:57I
- 10:57coughing?
- 10:58Why
- 10:58am
- 10:58I
- 10:58not
- 10:58feeling
- 10:59well?
- 10:59Right.
- 11:00And
- 11:00then
- 11:00you
- 11:00go
- 11:00down
- 11:01and
- 11:01start
- 11:01peeling
- 11:02back
- 11:02some
- 11:02drywall
- 11:03and
- 11:03see,
- 11:03wow,
- 11:04white
- 11:04on
- 11:05this
- 11:05side,
- 11:05black
- 11:05on
- 11:05this
- 11:06side,
- 11:06and
- 11:07it
- 11:07starts
- 11:07to
- 11:07get
- 11:08to
- 11:08be
- 11:08a
- 11:08hot
- 11:08mess.
- 11:09It
- 11:09comes
- 11:09down
- 11:09to
- 11:10that
- 11:10we
- 11:10just
- 11:10talked
- 11:10about
- 11:10before,
- 11:11this
- 11:11is
- 11:11the
- 11:12way
- 11:12we've
- 11:12always
- 11:12done
- 11:12it.
- 11:12So
- 11:13let's
- 11:13just
- 11:13continue
- 11:13to
- 11:13do
- 11:13it
- 11:14this
- 11:14way
- 11:14and
- 11:15everything
- 11:15will
- 11:15be
- 11:15just
- 11:15fine.
- 11:16Whichever
- 11:17side
- 11:17of
- 11:17the
- 11:17coin
- 11:18somebody
- 11:18is
- 11:18on
- 11:19about
- 11:19climate,
- 11:20the
- 11:20climates,
- 11:21the
- 11:22fact
- 11:22of
- 11:22the
- 11:22matter
- 11:22is
- 11:23we
- 11:23realize
- 11:24that
- 11:24weather
- 11:24patterns
- 11:25are
- 11:25changing.
- 11:26And
- 11:26then
- 11:26areas
- 11:26of
- 11:27the
- 11:27country
- 11:27that
- 11:27used
- 11:28to
- 11:28get
- 11:28a
- 11:28lot
- 11:28of
- 11:29rain
- 11:29may
- 11:30get
- 11:30less,
- 11:30may
- 11:30get
- 11:30more.
- 11:31And
- 11:31this
- 11:31has
- 11:32a
- 11:32cyclical
- 11:32as
- 11:32well.
- 11:33We
- 11:33see
- 11:33this
- 11:33every
- 11:33ten
- 11:33to
- 11:3315
- 11:34years.
- 11:35I
- 11:35know
- 11:35here
- 11:35in
- 11:36my
- 11:36state
- 11:36here
- 11:36in
- 11:36Wisconsin,
- 11:37about
- 11:37every
- 11:37ten
- 11:37to
- 11:3715
- 11:38years,
- 11:38we
- 11:39get
- 11:39these
- 11:40summers
- 11:40of
- 11:40absolutely
- 11:41torrential
- 11:42rainfalls.
- 11:43And
- 11:43then
- 11:43a
- 11:43summer
- 11:44like
- 11:44now,
- 11:44which
- 11:45we
- 11:45haven't
- 11:45had
- 11:45rain
- 11:45for
- 11:45two
- 11:46weeks,
- 11:46it's
- 11:46just,
- 11:46it's,
- 11:47this
- 11:47is
- 11:47what
- 11:48happens.
- 11:48But
- 11:48it's
- 11:49always
- 11:49safe
- 11:49to
- 11:49err
- 11:50on
- 11:50the
- 11:50side
- 11:50of,
- 11:51let's
- 11:52protect
- 11:52from
- 11:52the
- 11:53moisture
- 11:54because
- 11:54at
- 11:54some
- 11:55point
- 11:55in
- 11:55the
- 11:55hundred
- 11:56year
- 11:57existence
- 11:57of
- 11:57this
- 11:58home,
- 11:58moisture
- 11:59is
- 11:59going
- 11:59to
- 11:59be
- 11:59an
- 12:00issue.
- 12:00So
- 12:00why
- 12:00wouldn't
- 12:01you
- 12:01protect
- 12:01against
- 12:02it?
- 12:02Evan?
- 12:02Yeah.
- 12:03So
- 12:03simple.
- 12:04And
- 12:04the
- 12:05science
- 12:05is
- 12:05out
- 12:06there.
- 12:06The
- 12:06materials
- 12:06are
- 12:07out
- 12:07there
- 12:07to
- 12:07do
- 12:07this
- 12:08correctly.
- 12:08And
- 12:09I
- 12:09just
- 12:09like
- 12:09to
- 12:09see
- 12:09people
- 12:10doing
- 12:10it
- 12:10right
- 12:10because
- 12:11depending
- 12:11on
- 12:11the
- 12:12location
- 12:12as
- 12:12there
- 12:13are
- 12:13some
- 12:13crazy
- 12:14rules
- 12:14for
- 12:14basements
- 12:15and
- 12:15stuff
- 12:15across
- 12:16the
- 12:16country.
- 12:17What
- 12:17is
- 12:17that
- 12:18in
- 12:18Colorado
- 12:18where
- 12:19they
- 12:19get
- 12:19frosty
- 12:19and
- 12:20they've
- 12:20got
- 12:20to
- 12:20have
- 12:20an
- 12:20adjustable
- 12:21floor
- 12:21by
- 12:21six
- 12:22inches
- 12:22on
- 12:22the.
- 12:22There's
- 12:23a
- 12:23lot
- 12:23of
- 12:23weird
- 12:24things
- 12:24that
- 12:24happen
- 12:24that
- 12:25all
- 12:25of
- 12:25our
- 12:25friends
- 12:26down
- 12:26in
- 12:26Florida
- 12:26and
- 12:26California
- 12:27are
- 12:27going,
- 12:27what
- 12:27are
- 12:28you
- 12:28talking
- 12:28about?
- 12:28Right?
- 12:29Really?
- 12:30There's
- 12:30not
- 12:30one
- 12:31rule
- 12:31that
- 12:31fits
- 12:31everything,
- 12:32but
- 12:33there
- 12:33is
- 12:33one
- 12:33rule
- 12:34for
- 12:34controlling
- 12:34moisture,
- 12:35making
- 12:36sure
- 12:36that
- 12:36that
- 12:36is
- 12:36a
- 12:36dry
- 12:37space
- 12:37down
- 12:37there
- 12:38and
- 12:38not
- 12:38growing
- 12:39mold.
- 12:39Preston
- 12:39and
- 12:40then
- 12:40you
- 12:40throw
- 12:40into
- 12:40this
- 12:40whole
- 12:41equation
- 12:41the
- 12:42fact
- 12:42that
- 12:43in
- 12:43every
- 12:44state
- 12:44you
- 12:45have
- 12:45a
- 12:45different
- 12:45set
- 12:46of
- 12:46building
- 12:47codes,
- 12:47energy
- 12:48codes.
- 12:49You
- 12:49bring
- 12:49up
- 12:49Boulder,
- 12:50Colorado.
- 12:50Im
- 12:51working
- 12:51with
- 12:51a
- 12:51customer
- 12:52in
- 12:52Boulder
- 12:52right
- 12:52now,
- 12:53a
- 12:53large
- 12:53contractor,
- 12:54and
- 12:55the
- 12:55things
- 12:55he
- 12:55has
- 12:55to
- 12:55do
- 12:56just
- 12:56to
- 12:56meet
- 12:56the
- 12:57energy
- 12:57codes,
- 12:58literally
- 12:58causing
- 12:59health
- 12:59issues
- 13:00for
- 13:00his
- 13:00customers
- 13:01because
- 13:03there's
- 13:03the
- 13:03unintended
- 13:04consequence
- 13:05of
- 13:05trying
- 13:05to
- 13:05do
- 13:05the
- 13:05right
- 13:05thing.
- 13:06And
- 13:06this
- 13:06is
- 13:06what
- 13:06we're
- 13:07in
- 13:07right
- 13:08now,
- 13:08in
- 13:08the
- 13:08middle
- 13:08of
- 13:09code
- 13:09officials
- 13:10around
- 13:10the
- 13:10country
- 13:10trying
- 13:11to
- 13:11make
- 13:11our
- 13:11homes
- 13:11more
- 13:12energy
- 13:12efficient.
- 13:12I
- 13:13understand
- 13:13that
- 13:13everybody
- 13:14loves
- 13:14energy
- 13:14efficiency.
- 13:15Our
- 13:15bottom
- 13:16line,
- 13:16our
- 13:16wallets
- 13:16love
- 13:17energy
- 13:17efficiency.
- 13:18However,
- 13:20if
- 13:20it's
- 13:20happening
- 13:21in
- 13:21a
- 13:22way
- 13:22that's
- 13:22making
- 13:23the
- 13:23occupants
- 13:24less
- 13:25healthy,
- 13:26let's
- 13:26reevaluate
- 13:26what
- 13:27we're
- 13:27doing.
- 13:27And
- 13:27so
- 13:28why
- 13:28would
- 13:29we
- 13:29use
- 13:29spray
- 13:29foam
- 13:30throughout
- 13:30the
- 13:30entire
- 13:31house
- 13:31if
- 13:31we
- 13:31know
- 13:31spray
- 13:32foam
- 13:32is
- 13:32problematic
- 13:33for
- 13:33a
- 13:33majority
- 13:33of
- 13:33people
- 13:34who
- 13:34have
- 13:34asthma
- 13:35and
- 13:36then
- 13:36others
- 13:36who
- 13:36just
- 13:36don't
- 13:37like
- 13:37chemical
- 13:37off
- 13:37gassing.
- 13:39And
- 13:39so
- 13:40let's
- 13:40look
- 13:40at
- 13:40these
- 13:40things
- 13:41and
- 13:41say
- 13:41what
- 13:42makes
- 13:42sense,
- 13:43not
- 13:43for
- 13:44necessarily
- 13:45just
- 13:45the
- 13:45environment,
- 13:45but
- 13:46for
- 13:46us
- 13:46who
- 13:47live
- 13:47within
- 13:47the
- 13:48environment.
- 13:48We
- 13:49should
- 13:49be
- 13:49working
- 13:50this
- 13:50together.
- 13:51Yeah,
- 13:51it's
- 13:51almost
- 13:51backwards
- 13:52right
- 13:52now.
- 13:53It's
- 13:53like
- 13:53the
- 13:53energy
- 13:54efficiency
- 13:55right
- 13:55now
- 13:56is
- 13:56graded
- 13:56higher
- 13:57on
- 13:57the
- 13:57scale
- 13:57of
- 13:57building
- 13:58officials
- 13:58than
- 13:59the
- 13:59health
- 13:59of
- 13:59the
- 13:59human
- 14:00living
- 14:00inside
- 14:00the
- 14:00house
- 14:01by
- 14:01like
- 14:02four
- 14:02to
- 14:02one.
- 14:02And
- 14:03then
- 14:03people
- 14:04like,
- 14:04you
- 14:04have
- 14:04to
- 14:04go
- 14:05back
- 14:05and
- 14:05go,
- 14:05okay,
- 14:05we
- 14:05have
- 14:06this
- 14:06mess
- 14:06that
- 14:06was
- 14:07created,
- 14:07that
- 14:08was
- 14:08building
- 14:09code
- 14:09was
- 14:10followed
- 14:10in
- 14:10this
- 14:10construction
- 14:11process.
- 14:11But
- 14:12how
- 14:12do
- 14:12we
- 14:12go
- 14:13back
- 14:13in
- 14:13and
- 14:13get
- 14:13fresh
- 14:14air?
- 14:14How
- 14:14do
- 14:14we
- 14:14get
- 14:14this
- 14:15stuff
- 14:15cleaned
- 14:15up?
- 14:15How
- 14:15do
- 14:15we
- 14:16make
- 14:16this
- 14:16happen?
- 14:17And
- 14:17that's
- 14:17a
- 14:17tough
- 14:17battle.
- 14:18It's
- 14:18100%
- 14:19avoidable.
- 14:20And
- 14:21when
- 14:21you
- 14:21ask
- 14:21the
- 14:21code
- 14:22officials
- 14:22if
- 14:23we
- 14:23can
- 14:23do
- 14:23something
- 14:23different
- 14:24because
- 14:24we're
- 14:24dealing
- 14:25with
- 14:25health
- 14:25of
- 14:25the
- 14:25occupant
- 14:26issues,
- 14:27they'll
- 14:27say,
- 14:27yep,
- 14:27sorry,
- 14:28it
- 14:28won't
- 14:28meet
- 14:28the
- 14:29code.
- 14:29So
- 14:30there
- 14:30are
- 14:30builders
- 14:31now
- 14:31that
- 14:31I
- 14:31work
- 14:31with
- 14:31around
- 14:31the
- 14:32country.
- 14:32And
- 14:33I
- 14:33won't
- 14:33name
- 14:34names,
- 14:34but
- 14:34they're
- 14:35looking
- 14:35at
- 14:35this.
- 14:35They're
- 14:35saying,
- 14:36we're
- 14:36going
- 14:36to
- 14:36submit
- 14:36based
- 14:37upon
- 14:37the
- 14:37codes,
- 14:38but
- 14:38we're
- 14:38going
- 14:38to
- 14:38build
- 14:39what
- 14:39we
- 14:39know
- 14:39works.
- 14:39What
- 14:39we
- 14:39know
- 14:40was
- 14:40healthier.
- 14:41And
- 14:42you
- 14:42got
- 14:42to
- 14:42be
- 14:43careful
- 14:43with
- 14:43that
- 14:43because
- 14:43you
- 14:44don't,
- 14:44certainly
- 14:44don't
- 14:44want
- 14:44them
- 14:44to
- 14:44cheapen
- 14:45up
- 14:45the
- 14:45process
- 14:46to
- 14:46pad
- 14:46their
- 14:46own
- 14:47pockets.
- 14:48But
- 14:49they're
- 14:49the
- 14:49ones
- 14:49who
- 14:49have
- 14:49to
- 14:50deal
- 14:50with
- 14:50the
- 14:51angry
- 14:51homeowner
- 14:52when
- 14:53they
- 14:53come
- 14:54back
- 14:54and
- 14:54say,
- 14:54listen,
- 14:55everybody
- 14:55in
- 14:55the
- 14:55house
- 14:55is
- 14:55getting
- 14:56sick.
- 14:56We're
- 14:57not
- 14:57getting
- 14:57enough
- 14:57fresh
- 14:58air.
- 14:58The
- 14:58material
- 14:59that
- 14:59are
- 14:59supposedly
- 15:00eco
- 15:01friendly
- 15:01are
- 15:02all
- 15:02off
- 15:02gassing
- 15:02toxins.
- 15:04And
- 15:04then
- 15:05now
- 15:05it's
- 15:05the
- 15:05builder's
- 15:05fault.
- 15:06Why
- 15:06did
- 15:06you
- 15:06put
- 15:06us
- 15:07in
- 15:07this
- 15:07situation?
- 15:07So
- 15:08the
- 15:08builders
- 15:08are
- 15:09trying
- 15:09to
- 15:10nip
- 15:10that
- 15:10in
- 15:10the
- 15:10bud
- 15:10and
- 15:10say,
- 15:11here's
- 15:11a
- 15:12better
- 15:12way
- 15:12to
- 15:12do
- 15:12things.
- 15:13Most
- 15:13importantly,
- 15:14I
- 15:14want
- 15:14to
- 15:14give
- 15:14you
- 15:15a
- 15:15home
- 15:16that
- 15:16is
- 15:17aesthetically
- 15:17pleasing,
- 15:18meets
- 15:19the
- 15:19budget,
- 15:19it's
- 15:19going
- 15:19to
- 15:20last
- 15:20a
- 15:20very,
- 15:20very
- 15:20long
- 15:21time
- 15:21and
- 15:21is
- 15:22healthy
- 15:22for
- 15:22you
- 15:23and
- 15:23your
- 15:23family.
- 15:24Yeah,
- 15:24amen.
- 15:24And
- 15:25that's
- 15:25one
- 15:25of
- 15:25those
- 15:25things.
- 15:26And
- 15:26it's
- 15:26one
- 15:26thing
- 15:26that
- 15:26whenever
- 15:27I've
- 15:27been
- 15:27teaching
- 15:28seminars
- 15:29as
- 15:29far
- 15:29as
- 15:29home
- 15:30tech
- 15:30and
- 15:30healthy
- 15:30home
- 15:31stuff
- 15:31that
- 15:31I
- 15:31do,
- 15:32and
- 15:32I
- 15:32haven't
- 15:32done
- 15:32as
- 15:33many
- 15:33over
- 15:33the
- 15:33last
- 15:33years.
- 15:34Cause
- 15:34I've
- 15:34been
- 15:34doing
- 15:34the
- 15:34media
- 15:34thing
- 15:35like
- 15:35this.
- 15:35But
- 15:36I
- 15:36always
- 15:36brought
- 15:37up
- 15:37a
- 15:37thing.
- 15:37When
- 15:37you're
- 15:38dealing
- 15:38with
- 15:39contractors
- 15:40and
- 15:40you're
- 15:40building
- 15:40new
- 15:40homes,
- 15:41you
- 15:42should
- 15:42be
- 15:42doing
- 15:42air
- 15:42testing
- 15:43before
- 15:43and
- 15:43after.
- 15:44Before
- 15:44you
- 15:44hand
- 15:44it
- 15:44over
- 15:45to
- 15:45your
- 15:45consumer,
- 15:46to
- 15:46that
- 15:46end
- 15:46customer
- 15:47so
- 15:47they
- 15:48know
- 15:48where
- 15:48you
- 15:48left
- 15:49it.
- 15:49So
- 15:49there's
- 15:49a
- 15:49baseline.
- 15:50And
- 15:50quite
- 15:51frankly,
- 15:51if
- 15:51you
- 15:51start
- 15:52seeing
- 15:52some
- 15:52bad
- 15:53air
- 15:53results,
- 15:53you
- 15:53go,
- 15:54oh,
- 15:54what
- 15:55product
- 15:55is
- 15:55causing
- 15:55this?
- 15:56Because
- 15:56when
- 15:57misses
- 15:57Smith
- 15:58comes
- 15:58in
- 15:58with
- 15:58her
- 15:59cheap
- 16:00wayfarer
- 16:00couch
- 16:01or
- 16:01whatever
- 16:01that
- 16:01came
- 16:01from,
- 16:02wherever
- 16:02that's
- 16:02all
- 16:02filled
- 16:03up
- 16:03and
- 16:03off
- 16:04gassing
- 16:04for
- 16:04the
- 16:04next
- 16:04two
- 16:05years,
- 16:06it's
- 16:06not
- 16:06on
- 16:06you,
- 16:06it's
- 16:07on
- 16:07them.
- 16:08And
- 16:08you
- 16:08can
- 16:08help.
- 16:09You
- 16:09have
- 16:09at
- 16:09least
- 16:09a
- 16:09baseline
- 16:10to
- 16:10protect
- 16:10yourself,
- 16:11at
- 16:12least
- 16:12when
- 16:12the
- 16:12house
- 16:12was
- 16:12handed
- 16:13over.
- 16:14It's
- 16:14one
- 16:14of
- 16:14those
- 16:15things
- 16:15where
- 16:15some
- 16:16of
- 16:16the
- 16:16builders
- 16:16we
- 16:16work
- 16:17with
- 16:17will
- 16:17say,
- 16:17if
- 16:18what
- 16:18we
- 16:18don't
- 16:19know
- 16:19can't
- 16:19hurt
- 16:19us.
- 16:20And
- 16:21the
- 16:22more
- 16:22you
- 16:22want
- 16:22to
- 16:22know,
- 16:23the
- 16:23more
- 16:23you
- 16:23need
- 16:23to
- 16:23know.
- 16:24And
- 16:24then
- 16:24it
- 16:24opens
- 16:24up
- 16:24a
- 16:25whole
- 16:25Pandora's
- 16:25box
- 16:26of
- 16:26issues.
- 16:27Sometimes
- 16:27it
- 16:27does.
- 16:28But
- 16:28I'll
- 16:29tell
- 16:29you,
- 16:29if
- 16:30there
- 16:30was
- 16:30a
- 16:30way,
- 16:30and
- 16:31there
- 16:31is
- 16:31a
- 16:31way,
- 16:31using
- 16:32different
- 16:32methods
- 16:33of
- 16:33error
- 16:33testing,
- 16:34to
- 16:35actually
- 16:35do
- 16:35it
- 16:35at
- 16:35certain
- 16:36steps
- 16:36of
- 16:36the
- 16:36construction
- 16:37process,
- 16:37to
- 16:37say,
- 16:38at
- 16:38this
- 16:38point,
- 16:39we're
- 16:39good
- 16:39to
- 16:40go
- 16:40from
- 16:40this
- 16:41point
- 16:42back,
- 16:42everything
- 16:43that
- 16:43we've
- 16:43done
- 16:43is
- 16:44good.
- 16:44And
- 16:45now
- 16:45we
- 16:45know
- 16:45between
- 16:46this
- 16:46checkpoint
- 16:46and
- 16:47this
- 16:47checkpoint,
- 16:48something
- 16:48has
- 16:48caused
- 16:49this
- 16:49massive
- 16:49raise
- 16:50in
- 16:50the
- 16:51VOC
- 16:51levels
- 16:52in
- 16:52the
- 16:52house
- 16:52or
- 16:52the
- 16:52formaldehyde
- 16:53levels.
- 16:54We
- 16:54can
- 16:54then
- 16:54look
- 16:54back
- 16:55through
- 16:55the
- 16:55construction
- 16:56schedule
- 16:56and
- 16:57the
- 16:57materials
- 16:57to
- 16:57say,
- 16:58it
- 16:58must
- 16:58have
- 16:58been
- 16:58one
- 16:58of
- 16:58these
- 16:59two
- 16:59or
- 16:59three
- 16:59things.
- 17:00And
- 17:00then
- 17:00those
- 17:00are
- 17:01obviously
- 17:01things
- 17:01we'll
- 17:01avoid
- 17:02on
- 17:02the
- 17:02next
- 17:02job,
- 17:02of
- 17:03course.
- 17:03But
- 17:03I've
- 17:04been
- 17:04involved
- 17:04in
- 17:04houses
- 17:05throughout
- 17:06the
- 17:06country
- 17:06where
- 17:06I
- 17:07get
- 17:07brought
- 17:07into
- 17:08somewhat
- 17:08remediate
- 17:09the
- 17:10chemical
- 17:10issues
- 17:10in
- 17:10the
- 17:10home.
- 17:11And,
- 17:11well,
- 17:12look
- 17:12at
- 17:12these
- 17:12air
- 17:12tests.
- 17:13A
- 17:13house
- 17:14thats
- 17:14just
- 17:15been
- 17:15completed
- 17:16before
- 17:17the
- 17:17family
- 17:17moves
- 17:17in
- 17:18is
- 17:19testing
- 17:19out
- 17:20between
- 17:20seven
- 17:21and
- 17:2115,000
- 17:23grams
- 17:23per
- 17:23liter
- 17:24of
- 17:24vocs.
- 17:25Wow.
- 17:25And
- 17:26these
- 17:26are
- 17:27supposedly
- 17:27homes
- 17:27that
- 17:27are
- 17:27built
- 17:28to
- 17:28green
- 17:29built
- 17:29standards.
- 17:30So
- 17:31people
- 17:31say,
- 17:31how
- 17:31can
- 17:32that
- 17:32be?
- 17:32Understand
- 17:33that
- 17:34all
- 17:34these
- 17:34greenbuilt
- 17:34standards
- 17:35are
- 17:36predicated
- 17:36on
- 17:37the
- 17:37EPA
- 17:38requirements
- 17:39for
- 17:40vocs.
- 17:42Vocs,
- 17:42or
- 17:43volatile
- 17:43organic
- 17:43compounds,
- 17:44are
- 17:44chemicals
- 17:45that
- 17:45can
- 17:45contribute
- 17:45to
- 17:45outdoor
- 17:46air
- 17:46pollution.
- 17:46This
- 17:46is
- 17:46the
- 17:47definition
- 17:47of
- 17:47what
- 17:47a
- 17:47VoC
- 17:48is?
- 17:48Yeah.
- 17:48Inside
- 17:49of
- 17:49a
- 17:49home,
- 17:50there's
- 17:50not
- 17:50enough
- 17:51nitrogen
- 17:51uv
- 17:52to
- 17:52create
- 17:52low
- 17:52level
- 17:52smog.
- 17:53So
- 17:54you
- 17:54look
- 17:54at
- 17:54vocs
- 17:55and
- 17:55say
- 17:55some
- 17:55are
- 17:55dangerous.
- 17:56Yes,
- 17:56some
- 17:56are
- 17:56dangerous
- 17:57for
- 17:57humans.
- 17:57A
- 17:57lot
- 17:57of
- 17:57them
- 17:57are
- 17:58completely
- 17:58harmless.
- 17:59But
- 17:59if
- 18:00you
- 18:00use
- 18:00materials
- 18:01that
- 18:01might
- 18:01be
- 18:02considered
- 18:02zero
- 18:03VoC
- 18:03to
- 18:03meet
- 18:03the
- 18:04regulations,
- 18:04it
- 18:05doesn't
- 18:05mean
- 18:05that
- 18:05there's
- 18:06zero
- 18:06toxin
- 18:07there.
- 18:07There
- 18:08are
- 18:08over
- 18:0892,000
- 18:09chemicals
- 18:09used
- 18:10in
- 18:10the
- 18:10production
- 18:10of
- 18:10building
- 18:10materials
- 18:11and
- 18:11home
- 18:11goods.
- 18:12Out
- 18:12of
- 18:12that,
- 18:13a
- 18:13couple
- 18:13thousand
- 18:13of
- 18:13them
- 18:14are
- 18:14considered
- 18:14vocs.
- 18:15The
- 18:15rest
- 18:15of
- 18:15them
- 18:16are
- 18:16either
- 18:17not
- 18:17regulated
- 18:18as
- 18:18vocs
- 18:19because
- 18:19they
- 18:19don't
- 18:19contribute
- 18:19to
- 18:19outdoor
- 18:20air
- 18:20pollution,
- 18:20or
- 18:20they're
- 18:20not
- 18:21volatile
- 18:21organic
- 18:22compounds
- 18:22at
- 18:22all.
- 18:22They're
- 18:22other
- 18:23things.
- 18:23And
- 18:23so
- 18:25I
- 18:25don't
- 18:25understand
- 18:26why
- 18:26we
- 18:26just,
- 18:27why
- 18:27do
- 18:27we
- 18:27strive
- 18:28to
- 18:28do
- 18:28low
- 18:29VoC
- 18:29when
- 18:29if
- 18:30I
- 18:30peel
- 18:30the
- 18:30skin
- 18:31off
- 18:31of
- 18:31an
- 18:31orange
- 18:31for
- 18:31breakfast,
- 18:32I've
- 18:32just
- 18:32released
- 18:33850
- 18:34grams
- 18:34per
- 18:34liter
- 18:34of
- 18:34vocs.
- 18:35It's
- 18:35not
- 18:35going
- 18:35to
- 18:36poison
- 18:36me,
- 18:36it's
- 18:36not
- 18:36going
- 18:36to
- 18:37hurt
- 18:37me.
- 18:37Yeah.
- 18:38It's
- 18:38nourishment.
- 18:39So
- 18:39we
- 18:40need
- 18:40to
- 18:40stop
- 18:40chasing
- 18:41these
- 18:42numbers
- 18:42and
- 18:43actually
- 18:43look
- 18:43at
- 18:43the
- 18:44details,
- 18:45how
- 18:45these
- 18:45materials
- 18:45are
- 18:46made,
- 18:46how
- 18:46our
- 18:46houses
- 18:46are
- 18:47built.
- 18:47So
- 18:48we're
- 18:48not
- 18:48relying
- 18:48on
- 18:49some
- 18:49esoteric
- 18:50score
- 18:50to
- 18:50tell
- 18:51us
- 18:51thumbs
- 18:51up
- 18:51or
- 18:52thumb
- 18:52down.
- 18:52Yeah,
- 18:53I
- 18:53was
- 18:53doing
- 18:53some
- 18:53research
- 18:53the
- 18:53other
- 18:54day
- 18:54and
- 18:54I
- 18:54saw
- 18:54that
- 18:54there
- 18:55are
- 18:55eleven.
- 18:56I
- 18:57think
- 18:57it's
- 18:57current.
- 18:58It's
- 18:58within
- 18:58a
- 18:58year
- 18:58or
- 18:58so
- 18:59current,
- 18:59which
- 18:59is
- 19:00always
- 19:00hard
- 19:00when
- 19:01you're
- 19:01doing
- 19:01research.
- 19:01But
- 19:02it
- 19:02looks
- 19:02like
- 19:02there's
- 19:02eleven
- 19:03states
- 19:03in
- 19:04the
- 19:04US
- 19:05that
- 19:05don't
- 19:05have
- 19:06statewide
- 19:08building
- 19:08codes.
- 19:09And
- 19:09so
- 19:09they're
- 19:10more
- 19:11city
- 19:11or,
- 19:12or
- 19:12county
- 19:13or
- 19:13township
- 19:14or
- 19:14whatever.
- 19:15And
- 19:16that's
- 19:16part
- 19:16of
- 19:16the
- 19:17problem,
- 19:17too.
- 19:17Like,
- 19:17I
- 19:17got
- 19:17a
- 19:18buddy
- 19:18being,
- 19:18having
- 19:19a
- 19:19house
- 19:19built
- 19:19down
- 19:20outside
- 19:20of
- 19:20Phoenix,
- 19:21Arizona,
- 19:22and
- 19:22I've
- 19:22been
- 19:22watching
- 19:23this
- 19:23thing
- 19:23get
- 19:23built,
- 19:24and
- 19:24I've
- 19:24been,
- 19:24just
- 19:25because
- 19:26he
- 19:26lives
- 19:26up
- 19:27in
- 19:27the
- 19:27Pacific
- 19:27Northwest
- 19:28my
- 19:28way,
- 19:29and
- 19:29I'm
- 19:29watching
- 19:30this
- 19:30thing
- 19:30get
- 19:30built
- 19:30and
- 19:31I'm
- 19:31like,
- 19:31are
- 19:31you
- 19:32kidding
- 19:32me?
- 19:32We
- 19:32couldn't
- 19:33do
- 19:33that.
- 19:34So
- 19:34great
- 19:34example.
- 19:35The
- 19:36house
- 19:36has
- 19:37been
- 19:37open
- 19:37air
- 19:38outside
- 19:39in
- 19:39Phoenix,
- 19:40and
- 19:41for
- 19:41the
- 19:41last
- 19:42four
- 19:42weeks,
- 19:42they've
- 19:43had
- 19:43this
- 19:43crazy
- 19:45windstorms
- 19:45and
- 19:45stuff
- 19:46that's
- 19:46been
- 19:46going
- 19:46on
- 19:46down
- 19:46there.
- 19:47There's
- 19:47no
- 19:47windows
- 19:47or
- 19:48doors
- 19:48in
- 19:48it,
- 19:49but
- 19:49they've
- 19:49already
- 19:50got
- 19:50the
- 19:50drywall
- 19:51and
- 19:52it's
- 19:52textured
- 19:52but
- 19:53not
- 19:53primed.
- 19:53It's
- 19:54just
- 19:54been
- 19:54sitting
- 19:54there
- 19:55soaking
- 19:56in
- 19:57whatever.
- 19:58Yeah.
- 19:59Oh,
- 19:59boy,
- 19:59that
- 20:00is,
- 20:00oh,
- 20:00that's
- 20:01scary.
- 20:01And
- 20:01I
- 20:01know
- 20:02people
- 20:02say,
- 20:02yeah,
- 20:02but
- 20:03Arizona,
- 20:03it's
- 20:03a
- 20:03dry
- 20:04climate,
- 20:04folks.
- 20:05Mold
- 20:05exists
- 20:06everywhere.
- 20:06It
- 20:06doesn't
- 20:07have
- 20:07to
- 20:07be
- 20:07just
- 20:07in
- 20:07the
- 20:08Pacific
- 20:08Northwest
- 20:08or,
- 20:09or
- 20:09in
- 20:09Atlanta,
- 20:10Georgia.
- 20:10Mold
- 20:11is
- 20:11everywhere.
- 20:12And
- 20:12so
- 20:12once
- 20:13it
- 20:13gets
- 20:13onto
- 20:14a
- 20:14surface
- 20:14like
- 20:15plaster
- 20:16or
- 20:17an
- 20:17acrylic
- 20:18based
- 20:18texture
- 20:19or
- 20:19what
- 20:19have
- 20:20you,
- 20:20that
- 20:20becomes
- 20:21a
- 20:21food
- 20:21source,
- 20:22and
- 20:22eventually
- 20:22that
- 20:23mold
- 20:23will
- 20:23come
- 20:24back
- 20:24and
- 20:24itll
- 20:24come
- 20:24back
- 20:25very,
- 20:25very
- 20:25strongly.
- 20:26Its
- 20:27interesting
- 20:27because,
- 20:27yeah,
- 20:27there
- 20:27are
- 20:28a
- 20:28lot
- 20:28of
- 20:28locations
- 20:28that
- 20:28dont
- 20:29have
- 20:29building
- 20:29codes,
- 20:30and
- 20:30then
- 20:30theres
- 20:31the
- 20:31other,
- 20:31on
- 20:31the
- 20:31flip
- 20:32side
- 20:32of
- 20:32the
- 20:32coin,
- 20:33theres
- 20:33a
- 20:33lot
- 20:33of
- 20:33locations
- 20:34that
- 20:34have
- 20:34building
- 20:34codes,
- 20:35but
- 20:35they
- 20:35dont
- 20:35have
- 20:35code
- 20:36officials
- 20:36to
- 20:36actually
- 20:36enforce
- 20:37them.
- 20:37So
- 20:38its
- 20:38like,
- 20:38what
- 20:38good
- 20:38is
- 20:38having
- 20:39them?
- 20:39And
- 20:39we
- 20:40all
- 20:40know
- 20:40building
- 20:41code
- 20:41is
- 20:41basically
- 20:42the
- 20:42bare
- 20:42minimum.
- 20:43Absolutely.
- 20:44That's
- 20:44what
- 20:44you
- 20:44need
- 20:45to
- 20:45hit
- 20:45just
- 20:46to
- 20:46get
- 20:46your
- 20:46permit
- 20:47and
- 20:48to
- 20:48make
- 20:48sure
- 20:48you
- 20:48can
- 20:48get
- 20:48a
- 20:49certificate
- 20:49of
- 20:49occupancy
- 20:49that
- 20:50you
- 20:50built
- 20:50to
- 20:50those
- 20:50standards.
- 20:51It's
- 20:52the
- 20:52bare
- 20:52minimum.
- 20:53And
- 20:54if
- 20:54there's
- 20:54nobody
- 20:54there
- 20:55to
- 20:55actually
- 20:55do
- 20:55any
- 20:55inspections,
- 20:56then
- 20:56why
- 20:56even
- 20:56have
- 20:57them?
- 20:57Yeah,
- 20:57it's
- 20:58been
- 20:58interesting.
- 20:58I've
- 20:58been
- 20:58working
- 20:59on
- 20:59a
- 20:59few
- 20:59projects
- 21:00around
- 21:00here.
- 21:00I'm
- 21:00not
- 21:00going
- 21:01to
- 21:01say
- 21:01what
- 21:01part
- 21:01of
- 21:01the
- 21:02state
- 21:02where
- 21:02it's
- 21:02at.
- 21:02And,
- 21:03and
- 21:04I
- 21:04did
- 21:05helping
- 21:05out
- 21:05some
- 21:05friends
- 21:06and
- 21:06my
- 21:06brother
- 21:07and
- 21:07knocking
- 21:08stuff
- 21:08out
- 21:09and
- 21:09inspector
- 21:10walks
- 21:10in
- 21:11and
- 21:11goes,
- 21:11looks
- 21:12around,
- 21:13looks
- 21:13good,
- 21:13and
- 21:14heads
- 21:14out.
- 21:14And
- 21:14I'm
- 21:14like,
- 21:15you
- 21:15didn't
- 21:15even
- 21:15walk
- 21:15in
- 21:16the
- 21:16room
- 21:16that
- 21:16I
- 21:16went.
- 21:16I'm
- 21:17following
- 21:17the
- 21:17rule
- 21:18of
- 21:18the
- 21:18lock.
- 21:18And
- 21:18that's
- 21:19the
- 21:19thing
- 21:19with
- 21:19building
- 21:19codes,
- 21:20right?
- 21:20You're
- 21:20like
- 21:20on
- 21:20section
- 21:21this,
- 21:21it
- 21:21says
- 21:21this,
- 21:22but
- 21:22four
- 21:23paragraphs
- 21:23later
- 21:24in
- 21:24my
- 21:24instance,
- 21:25it
- 21:25actually
- 21:25goes
- 21:26against
- 21:26that.
- 21:26So
- 21:27you
- 21:27have
- 21:27two
- 21:28rules.
- 21:28Which
- 21:28one
- 21:28are
- 21:28you
- 21:28going
- 21:28to
- 21:29use.
- 21:29And
- 21:29this
- 21:29is
- 21:29international
- 21:30building
- 21:30code
- 21:31and
- 21:31it's
- 21:31like
- 21:32absolute
- 21:32insanity.
- 21:33So
- 21:33it's
- 21:34hard
- 21:34to
- 21:34navigate.
- 21:35But
- 21:35we
- 21:36sent,
- 21:36we
- 21:36had
- 21:36to
- 21:37literally
- 21:37ask
- 21:37five
- 21:38or
- 21:38six
- 21:38questions
- 21:39because
- 21:39we're
- 21:39below
- 21:40the
- 21:40right
- 21:40permits
- 21:40on
- 21:41this.
- 21:41And
- 21:41the
- 21:41building
- 21:42department
- 21:42had
- 21:42to
- 21:42come
- 21:42back
- 21:43and
- 21:43say,
- 21:43let
- 21:43me
- 21:44get
- 21:44with
- 21:44the
- 21:44rest
- 21:45of
- 21:45the
- 21:45people
- 21:45in
- 21:45the
- 21:45office
- 21:46because
- 21:46I
- 21:46don't
- 21:46actually
- 21:47know
- 21:47that
- 21:47answer.
- 21:48So
- 21:50you
- 21:50are
- 21:50probably
- 21:50one
- 21:51of
- 21:51the
- 21:51few
- 21:51people
- 21:51who
- 21:52wants
- 21:52to
- 21:52ask
- 21:53those
- 21:53questions
- 21:53because
- 21:53you
- 21:54want
- 21:54to
- 21:54know
- 21:54for
- 21:54sure.
- 21:55There's
- 21:55a
- 21:55lot
- 21:56of
- 21:56the
- 21:56people
- 21:56in
- 21:56the
- 21:56industry
- 21:57would
- 21:57not
- 21:57want
- 21:57to
- 21:58ask
- 21:58the
- 21:58question
- 21:58because
- 21:59it's
- 21:59like
- 21:59calling
- 21:59the
- 22:00IR's
- 22:00instead
- 22:01asking
- 22:01them
- 22:01about
- 22:02your
- 22:02taxes.
- 22:02I
- 22:02don't
- 22:03want
- 22:03to
- 22:03open
- 22:03up
- 22:03that
- 22:03Pandora's
- 22:04box.
- 22:05And
- 22:05so
- 22:06if
- 22:06nobody,
- 22:06hey,
- 22:06if
- 22:06it's
- 22:07not
- 22:07mentioned,
- 22:08if
- 22:08it's
- 22:08not
- 22:08notated,
- 22:09I
- 22:09guess
- 22:09we're
- 22:09good.
- 22:10Move
- 22:10on.
- 22:11Yeah.
- 22:11These
- 22:12were
- 22:12all
- 22:12just
- 22:12conflicts
- 22:13within
- 22:13code
- 22:13where
- 22:13you're
- 22:13like,
- 22:14ah,
- 22:14that
- 22:14says
- 22:14that.
- 22:15But
- 22:15that
- 22:15says
- 22:16the
- 22:16other
- 22:16thing.
- 22:16Which
- 22:16one
- 22:17is
- 22:17it?
- 22:17Yeah,
- 22:17yeah.
- 22:18And
- 22:18then
- 22:18look
- 22:18at
- 22:19an
- 22:19existing
- 22:19home
- 22:19when
- 22:20you're
- 22:20going
- 22:20to
- 22:20be
- 22:20buying
- 22:20an
- 22:20existing
- 22:21home
- 22:21and
- 22:21hiring
- 22:21a
- 22:21home
- 22:21inspector.
- 22:22I've
- 22:23had
- 22:23two
- 22:23situations
- 22:24now
- 22:24just
- 22:24in
- 22:24the
- 22:24last
- 22:25couple
- 22:25of
- 22:25weeks
- 22:25where
- 22:26people
- 22:26have
- 22:26come
- 22:27to
- 22:27me
- 22:27saying,
- 22:27we
- 22:27hired
- 22:27a
- 22:28home
- 22:28inspector
- 22:28when
- 22:28we
- 22:28bought
- 22:29this
- 22:29monumental
- 22:31dream
- 22:31home.
- 22:32And
- 22:32within
- 22:32a
- 22:33year
- 22:33of
- 22:34moving
- 22:34in,
- 22:35everybody
- 22:35got
- 22:36sick.
- 22:36I
- 22:37have
- 22:37one
- 22:37in
- 22:37particular
- 22:38where
- 22:38her
- 22:38kids
- 22:38developed
- 22:39these
- 22:40very
- 22:40rare
- 22:41neurological
- 22:42issues
- 22:42because
- 22:43of
- 22:43mold
- 22:43exposure.
- 22:44And
- 22:45it's
- 22:45all
- 22:45because
- 22:46the
- 22:46inspection
- 22:47never,
- 22:48never
- 22:49dug
- 22:49deep
- 22:49enough
- 22:50to
- 22:50figure
- 22:50out
- 22:50if
- 22:50there's
- 22:51a
- 22:51mold
- 22:51problem
- 22:52in
- 22:52the
- 22:52place.
- 22:52Like
- 22:53the
- 22:53Carolinas,
- 22:55where
- 22:55mold
- 22:55is
- 22:55prevalent.
- 22:56But
- 22:57also
- 22:57they're
- 22:57building
- 22:58methods.
- 22:59Absolutely
- 23:00stink.
- 23:00And
- 23:01sorry
- 23:01to
- 23:01my
- 23:02South
- 23:02Carolina
- 23:03friends.
- 23:03You
- 23:03need
- 23:03things
- 23:04like
- 23:04vapor
- 23:04control
- 23:05barriers,
- 23:05people.
- 23:06Just
- 23:06because
- 23:07you
- 23:07don't
- 23:07do
- 23:07it
- 23:07doesn't
- 23:08mean
- 23:08that
- 23:08it's
- 23:08the
- 23:09right
- 23:09thing.
- 23:09Yeah.
- 23:10So
- 23:10in
- 23:10any
- 23:10event,
- 23:11I
- 23:11think
- 23:12that
- 23:12we
- 23:12could
- 23:12avoid
- 23:13all
- 23:13of
- 23:13this
- 23:13if
- 23:13we
- 23:13just
- 23:13had
- 23:14a
- 23:14way
- 23:15to
- 23:15educate
- 23:16the
- 23:16professionals
- 23:17themselves
- 23:17so
- 23:18they
- 23:18know
- 23:18what
- 23:18to
- 23:18look
- 23:18for.
- 23:19Yeah,
- 23:20yeah.
- 23:20Such
- 23:20a
- 23:20great
- 23:21call
- 23:21because
- 23:22it's
- 23:22crazy.
- 23:22Like
- 23:23great
- 23:23example
- 23:23out
- 23:24at
- 23:24a
- 23:24project
- 23:24I've
- 23:25been
- 23:25working
- 23:25on,
- 23:25my
- 23:25brother,
- 23:25out
- 23:26on
- 23:26the
- 23:26Oregon
- 23:26coast
- 23:27out
- 23:27here,
- 23:28building
- 23:28code
- 23:28said
- 23:29okay,
- 23:29its
- 23:29an
- 23:29old
- 23:29fifties
- 23:30house
- 23:30we
- 23:30went
- 23:31through
- 23:31and
- 23:32we
- 23:32removed
- 23:33most
- 23:33of
- 23:33the
- 23:33material
- 23:34that
- 23:34was
- 23:34moldy
- 23:34because
- 23:34it
- 23:35had
- 23:35literally
- 23:35had
- 23:36water
- 23:36leaks
- 23:36for
- 23:3620
- 23:37years
- 23:37inside
- 23:37of
- 23:37it.
- 23:38It
- 23:38was
- 23:38known
- 23:38as
- 23:39the
- 23:39Blue
- 23:39Tarp
- 23:39House
- 23:40in
- 23:40there.
- 23:40And
- 23:40so
- 23:40we
- 23:41went
- 23:41through
- 23:41and
- 23:41probably
- 23:41reframed
- 23:4250%
- 23:43of
- 23:43that
- 23:44just
- 23:45to
- 23:45start
- 23:45over
- 23:45in
- 23:45that.
- 23:46But
- 23:46going
- 23:47through
- 23:47it,
- 23:47when
- 23:47we
- 23:47put
- 23:48stuff
- 23:48back
- 23:48in,
- 23:49we
- 23:49did
- 23:49vapor
- 23:49barriers
- 23:50in
- 23:50the
- 23:50right
- 23:50spot.
- 23:51We
- 23:51put
- 23:51in
- 23:51a
- 23:52rockwool
- 23:53insulation
- 23:53in
- 23:54the
- 23:54walls
- 23:54when
- 23:54we
- 23:54reinstallated
- 23:55just
- 23:55to
- 23:56do
- 23:56stuff
- 23:56that
- 23:56was
- 23:57going
- 23:57to
- 23:57be
- 23:58as
- 23:58durable
- 23:59as
- 23:59we
- 23:59could
- 23:59moving
- 24:00forward,
- 24:00we
- 24:00used
- 24:01five,
- 24:01eight
- 24:02drywall
- 24:02inside
- 24:03instead
- 24:03of
- 24:03half
- 24:04inch.
- 24:04Nice.
- 24:05Here's
- 24:06the
- 24:06thing,
- 24:06and
- 24:06this
- 24:06is
- 24:06one
- 24:07of
- 24:07the
- 24:07things
- 24:07that
- 24:07I've
- 24:07noticed
- 24:08with
- 24:08new
- 24:09drywall,
- 24:09for
- 24:09instance,
- 24:10and
- 24:10this
- 24:10is
- 24:10the
- 24:10light
- 24:11drywall
- 24:11that
- 24:11we're
- 24:11seeing.
- 24:12If
- 24:12you
- 24:12talk
- 24:12to
- 24:12firefighters
- 24:13and
- 24:13people
- 24:14that
- 24:14are
- 24:14out
- 24:14there
- 24:14testing
- 24:15this
- 24:15stuff,
- 24:15this
- 24:15new
- 24:16lightweight
- 24:16drywall
- 24:17drops
- 24:18down
- 24:18on
- 24:18a
- 24:19fire
- 24:19about
- 24:19ten
- 24:20minutes
- 24:20earlier
- 24:21than
- 24:21it
- 24:21ever
- 24:21did
- 24:22because
- 24:22they've
- 24:23aerated
- 24:23the
- 24:23drywall
- 24:24mixture
- 24:24so
- 24:24the
- 24:25screws
- 24:25don't
- 24:25hold.
- 24:26So
- 24:27technically,
- 24:27the
- 24:27fire
- 24:28departments
- 24:28are
- 24:28saying,
- 24:29hey,
- 24:29when
- 24:29you're
- 24:29putting
- 24:29up
- 24:30drywall
- 24:30on
- 24:30a
- 24:30ceiling,
- 24:31you
- 24:31should
- 24:32either
- 24:32be
- 24:32using
- 24:32glues
- 24:33and
- 24:33adhesive
- 24:33or
- 24:34twice
- 24:34the
- 24:34amount
- 24:35of
- 24:35screws.
- 24:36Wow.
- 24:37Just
- 24:37to
- 24:37keep
- 24:37the
- 24:38ceiling
- 24:38up
- 24:38there.
- 24:39So.
- 24:40And
- 24:40this
- 24:41is
- 24:41the
- 24:41problem
- 24:41that
- 24:42exists.
- 24:42How
- 24:43does
- 24:43that
- 24:43information
- 24:44get
- 24:44disseminated
- 24:44to
- 24:45the
- 24:45trades
- 24:46and
- 24:46then
- 24:46make
- 24:47it
- 24:47into
- 24:48a
- 24:48set
- 24:48of
- 24:48plans
- 24:49and
- 24:49have
- 24:49to
- 24:49be
- 24:49dealt
- 24:50with
- 24:50by
- 24:50the
- 24:50code
- 24:50officials?
- 24:51Because
- 24:52we
- 24:52also
- 24:52see
- 24:52the
- 24:52same
- 24:53thing
- 24:53with
- 24:53TGI
- 24:54choice.
- 24:55And
- 24:56firefighters
- 24:56will
- 24:56tell
- 24:57you,
- 24:57I
- 24:57don't
- 24:57want
- 24:57to
- 24:57enter
- 24:57a
- 24:58home
- 24:58that's
- 24:58fully
- 24:58engulfed
- 24:59if
- 25:00we
- 25:00know
- 25:00it's
- 25:00TGI
- 25:01because
- 25:01it's
- 25:01going
- 25:01to
- 25:01collapse.
- 25:02Same
- 25:02with
- 25:02trusses.
- 25:03Trusses
- 25:03where
- 25:03you
- 25:03have
- 25:03the
- 25:04metal
- 25:04plates.
- 25:05Five
- 25:05minutes
- 25:05of
- 25:05flame
- 25:06contact
- 25:06on
- 25:06those
- 25:07plates,
- 25:07and
- 25:07they
- 25:07go
- 25:08curl,
- 25:08curl,
- 25:09curl.
- 25:09And
- 25:10then
- 25:10you've
- 25:10got
- 25:10all
- 25:11these
- 25:11sticks
- 25:11there
- 25:11and
- 25:12you
- 25:12see
- 25:12these
- 25:12now
- 25:12in
- 25:13new
- 25:13construction
- 25:13where
- 25:13they
- 25:13actually
- 25:14built
- 25:14those
- 25:15truss
- 25:15joists
- 25:16for
- 25:16four
- 25:16systems.
- 25:17And
- 25:17I've
- 25:18talked
- 25:18to
- 25:18a
- 25:18few
- 25:18firefighters
- 25:19here
- 25:19on
- 25:19this
- 25:20show
- 25:20where
- 25:20they
- 25:20walked
- 25:20into
- 25:21a
- 25:21room.
- 25:21They're
- 25:21walking
- 25:21to
- 25:22a
- 25:22room
- 25:22and
- 25:22they
- 25:23could
- 25:23see
- 25:24that
- 25:24the
- 25:24carpet
- 25:25was
- 25:25holding
- 25:26up
- 25:26and
- 25:26it
- 25:26was
- 25:26the
- 25:26tax
- 25:27strip
- 25:27that
- 25:27had
- 25:27still
- 25:27held
- 25:28on
- 25:28the
- 25:28outside,
- 25:29but
- 25:29the
- 25:29center
- 25:29had
- 25:30floored.
- 25:30So
- 25:30they
- 25:30were
- 25:31basically
- 25:31going
- 25:31to
- 25:31walk
- 25:32into
- 25:32a
- 25:32room
- 25:32that
- 25:32was
- 25:32a
- 25:32trampoline,
- 25:33that
- 25:33the
- 25:33tax
- 25:34strip
- 25:34was
- 25:34still
- 25:34holding
- 25:34the
- 25:34carpet,
- 25:35but
- 25:35that
- 25:35had
- 25:35actually
- 25:35fallen
- 25:36in.
- 25:37Wow.
- 25:38And
- 25:38so,
- 25:39and
- 25:39the
- 25:39crazy
- 25:39thing
- 25:40is,
- 25:40and
- 25:40again,
- 25:40this
- 25:40comes
- 25:41down
- 25:41to
- 25:41building
- 25:41code,
- 25:42that
- 25:42if
- 25:42those
- 25:43trust
- 25:43manufacturers
- 25:44put
- 25:44two
- 25:44screws
- 25:45in
- 25:45those
- 25:45joints,
- 25:46holding
- 25:46them
- 25:47together,
- 25:47you
- 25:48wouldn't
- 25:48have
- 25:48that
- 25:48issue.
- 25:49It
- 25:49would
- 25:49still
- 25:49hold
- 25:50together
- 25:50during
- 25:50that
- 25:51time.
- 25:51But
- 25:52that
- 25:52would
- 25:53be
- 25:53such
- 25:53a
- 25:53simple
- 25:54code
- 25:54thing.
- 25:54And
- 25:54take
- 25:55a
- 25:55trust
- 25:55manufacturer
- 25:56an
- 25:56extra
- 25:57two
- 25:57minutes
- 25:58of
- 25:58trust
- 26:00and
- 26:00put
- 26:00those
- 26:00in
- 26:01there.
- 26:01But
- 26:01it
- 26:01just
- 26:01doesn't
- 26:02happen.
- 26:03Doesn't
- 26:03happen.
- 26:03And
- 26:04this
- 26:04always
- 26:04makes
- 26:05me
- 26:05think
- 26:05about
- 26:06the
- 26:06way
- 26:06homes
- 26:07used
- 26:07to
- 26:07be
- 26:07built.
- 26:07Right.
- 26:07With.
- 26:08With
- 26:08full
- 26:08cut
- 26:08dimensional
- 26:09lumber.
- 26:09Yeah.
- 26:10And
- 26:11why
- 26:11these
- 26:11homes,
- 26:12some
- 26:12of
- 26:12these
- 26:12homes
- 26:12still
- 26:12exist
- 26:13today
- 26:13is
- 26:13because
- 26:13of
- 26:14how
- 26:14well
- 26:14they
- 26:14are
- 26:14built
- 26:14with
- 26:15such
- 26:15good
- 26:15materials.
- 26:16Yeah,
- 26:16they
- 26:16had
- 26:16to
- 26:16deal
- 26:17with,
- 26:17with
- 26:17lead
- 26:18and
- 26:18asbestos
- 26:18and
- 26:18so
- 26:19forth,
- 26:19and
- 26:19we
- 26:19know
- 26:19how
- 26:19to
- 26:20deal
- 26:20with
- 26:20that
- 26:20now.
- 26:21The
- 26:21methods
- 26:21of
- 26:22how
- 26:22they
- 26:22did
- 26:22things
- 26:23and
- 26:23the
- 26:23materials
- 26:24that
- 26:24they
- 26:24used
- 26:25last
- 26:25so
- 26:26much
- 26:26longer
- 26:26than
- 26:26what
- 26:27we
- 26:27have
- 26:27now.
- 26:28I
- 26:28think
- 26:28part
- 26:28of
- 26:28it
- 26:29was
- 26:29the
- 26:29homes
- 26:29were
- 26:29insulated,
- 26:30they
- 26:30could
- 26:30breathe,
- 26:31they
- 26:31could
- 26:31dry
- 26:31out.
- 26:32We
- 26:33weren't
- 26:33trapping
- 26:33everything
- 26:34in.
- 26:34I
- 26:34think
- 26:34that's
- 26:35where
- 26:35we
- 26:35started
- 26:36to
- 26:36go
- 26:36sideways.
- 26:37If
- 26:37I
- 26:37was
- 26:37going
- 26:37to
- 26:38make
- 26:38a
- 26:38guess
- 26:39on
- 26:39this,
- 26:39and
- 26:39I'm
- 26:39not
- 26:39a
- 26:40scientist
- 26:40by
- 26:40any
- 26:40means,
- 26:40but
- 26:41it
- 26:41seems
- 26:41like
- 26:42as
- 26:42soon
- 26:42as
- 26:42we
- 26:42started
- 26:43throwing
- 26:43up
- 26:43tar
- 26:44paper
- 26:44in
- 26:44places
- 26:45and
- 26:46plastic
- 26:46on
- 26:46the
- 26:47inside,
- 26:47and
- 26:47before
- 26:48we
- 26:48put
- 26:48the
- 26:48drywall
- 26:49up
- 26:49and
- 26:49started
- 26:49making
- 26:50all
- 26:50these
- 26:50mold
- 26:50sandwiches,
- 26:51trying
- 26:51to
- 26:51be
- 26:51more
- 26:51efficient,
- 26:52thats
- 26:52when
- 26:53these
- 26:53house
- 26:53things
- 26:53tended
- 26:54to
- 26:54go
- 26:54sideways.
- 26:55Yeah.
- 26:56When
- 26:56I
- 26:56give
- 26:56presentations
- 26:57on
- 26:57this
- 26:57subject,
- 26:58I
- 26:58always
- 26:58talk
- 26:58about
- 26:59how
- 26:59the
- 26:59industry
- 27:00really
- 27:00changed
- 27:01vastly
- 27:01in
- 27:01the
- 27:02early
- 27:02seventies
- 27:02with
- 27:03the
- 27:03OPEC
- 27:04oil
- 27:04embargo,
- 27:05and
- 27:06it
- 27:06caused
- 27:07commercial
- 27:08buildings
- 27:08and
- 27:08residential
- 27:09builders
- 27:09to
- 27:09start
- 27:10tightening
- 27:10up
- 27:10spaces
- 27:11to
- 27:11save
- 27:12energy
- 27:12because
- 27:13energy
- 27:13costs
- 27:13were
- 27:13so
- 27:14high
- 27:14in
- 27:14the
- 27:14early
- 27:14seventies.
- 27:15In
- 27:15the
- 27:15eighties,
- 27:16we
- 27:16had
- 27:16that
- 27:16mentality
- 27:17of
- 27:18keeping
- 27:18things
- 27:19nice
- 27:19and
- 27:19tight.
- 27:19But
- 27:20then
- 27:20was
- 27:21the
- 27:21explosion
- 27:22in
- 27:23synthetics
- 27:23and
- 27:23plastics.
- 27:24Yep.
- 27:25And
- 27:25so
- 27:25through
- 27:25the
- 27:25eighties.
- 27:26So
- 27:27side
- 27:27note,
- 27:28if
- 27:28you're
- 27:28gonna
- 27:28be
- 27:28buying
- 27:29an
- 27:29existing
- 27:30home,
- 27:30I
- 27:30would
- 27:30avoid
- 27:31homes
- 27:31built
- 27:31in
- 27:31the
- 27:31eighties.
- 27:32Yep.
- 27:32That's
- 27:33just,
- 27:33that's
- 27:33a
- 27:34general
- 27:34thought.
- 27:34Yeah,
- 27:35there
- 27:35are
- 27:35exceptions,
- 27:35but
- 27:35that's
- 27:36generally
- 27:36speaking,
- 27:37and
- 27:37that's
- 27:37because
- 27:38at
- 27:39that
- 27:39point
- 27:39it
- 27:39was
- 27:39like
- 27:40a
- 27:40science
- 27:41fair.
- 27:41Like
- 27:42what
- 27:42are
- 27:42we
- 27:42gonna
- 27:42do
- 27:43to
- 27:43make
- 27:43this
- 27:43home
- 27:44better
- 27:44performing
- 27:44and
- 27:45using
- 27:45all
- 27:45these
- 27:46new,
- 27:46exciting
- 27:47plastic
- 27:47materials?
- 27:48They
- 27:48don't
- 27:49breathe,
- 27:49they
- 27:50bend
- 27:51in
- 27:51the
- 27:51wind,
- 27:51they
- 27:52bend
- 27:52with
- 27:52temperature,
- 27:52sway.
- 27:53They
- 27:54don't
- 27:54have
- 27:54the
- 27:54same
- 27:54characteristics
- 27:55of
- 27:55what
- 27:55we've
- 27:56known
- 27:56for
- 27:56hundreds
- 27:56of
- 27:57years.
- 27:57And
- 27:57then
- 27:58in
- 27:58the
- 27:58nineties
- 27:58and
- 27:58two
- 27:59thousands,
- 28:00with
- 28:00the
- 28:00energy
- 28:00codes
- 28:01really
- 28:01starting
- 28:02to
- 28:02push
- 28:03builders
- 28:04into
- 28:04getting
- 28:04rid
- 28:05of
- 28:05every
- 28:05leak
- 28:06in
- 28:06the
- 28:06home
- 28:06whatsoever.
- 28:08Now
- 28:08we
- 28:08have
- 28:08these
- 28:09toxic
- 28:09boxes
- 28:10that
- 28:10we've
- 28:10built
- 28:11that
- 28:11the,
- 28:11that
- 28:12stale
- 28:12air
- 28:12can't
- 28:13get
- 28:13out,
- 28:13and
- 28:13you
- 28:13wonder
- 28:13why
- 28:14people
- 28:14were
- 28:14getting
- 28:14sick.
- 28:15So
- 28:15now
- 28:15finally,
- 28:16we're
- 28:16to
- 28:16the
- 28:16point
- 28:17where
- 28:17the
- 28:17healthy
- 28:18home
- 28:18is
- 28:19starting
- 28:19to
- 28:19take
- 28:20off
- 28:20as
- 28:21a
- 28:21talking
- 28:21point
- 28:21now
- 28:22nationally,
- 28:23because
- 28:23I
- 28:23think
- 28:23we
- 28:24are
- 28:24learning
- 28:25from
- 28:25those
- 28:25mistakes.
- 28:26Yeah.
- 28:27So
- 28:27I
- 28:27got
- 28:27a
- 28:27question
- 28:27for
- 28:28you
- 28:28here,
- 28:28and
- 28:28this
- 28:28is
- 28:28a
- 28:28great
- 28:29one,
- 28:29and
- 28:29I
- 28:29have
- 28:29my
- 28:30opinions,
- 28:30but
- 28:31I'm
- 28:31curious
- 28:31to
- 28:32ask
- 28:32the
- 28:32expert
- 28:32here,
- 28:33what
- 28:33do
- 28:33you
- 28:34think
- 28:34about
- 28:34OSB
- 28:35versus
- 28:36plywood,
- 28:36for
- 28:36instance?
- 28:37Boy
- 28:37oh
- 28:38boy,
- 28:38I
- 28:38know
- 28:38it's
- 28:38right.
- 28:39It's
- 28:39like
- 28:41one.
- 28:41Is
- 28:41it
- 28:41right?
- 28:42So
- 28:43OSB.
- 28:44If
- 28:44you're
- 28:44just
- 28:45looking
- 28:45at
- 28:45regular
- 28:46OSB,
- 28:47not
- 28:47like
- 28:47zip
- 28:48wall
- 28:48systems.
- 28:49Right.
- 28:49For
- 28:49sheathing.
- 28:50But
- 28:50if
- 28:50you're
- 28:50just
- 28:50looking
- 28:50at
- 28:51traditional
- 28:51OSB,
- 28:52the
- 28:52big
- 28:52downside
- 28:52to
- 28:53it
- 28:53is
- 28:53that
- 28:53because
- 28:53there's
- 28:54so
- 28:54many
- 28:54exposed
- 28:55edges
- 28:55of
- 28:55the
- 28:56wood
- 28:57and
- 28:57there's
- 28:57a
- 28:57lot
- 28:57of
- 28:57adhesive
- 28:58used
- 28:58to,
- 28:58when
- 28:59they
- 28:59apply
- 28:59this
- 28:59back
- 28:59or
- 29:00push
- 29:00this
- 29:00back
- 29:00together
- 29:00again
- 29:01after
- 29:01shredding
- 29:01it,
- 29:02that
- 29:02there's
- 29:02much
- 29:03more
- 29:03of
- 29:03a
- 29:03chance,
- 29:03especially
- 29:04of
- 29:04the
- 29:04edges
- 29:05of
- 29:05moisture
- 29:06getting
- 29:06in
- 29:06and
- 29:06swelling.
- 29:07And
- 29:07then
- 29:07it
- 29:07turns
- 29:08into
- 29:08a,
- 29:08a
- 29:09structural
- 29:09issue,
- 29:09it
- 29:10turns
- 29:10into
- 29:10a
- 29:10mold
- 29:10issue.
- 29:11And
- 29:11then
- 29:11you
- 29:12use
- 29:12a
- 29:12CDX
- 29:12plywood
- 29:13in
- 29:13lieu
- 29:13of
- 29:13that.
- 29:14And
- 29:14that
- 29:14eliminates
- 29:15a
- 29:15lot
- 29:15of
- 29:15that
- 29:16problem.
- 29:16But
- 29:17then
- 29:17its
- 29:17double
- 29:17the
- 29:18cost.
- 29:18And
- 29:19so
- 29:19then
- 29:19I
- 29:20look
- 29:20at
- 29:20it
- 29:20and
- 29:20say
- 29:20something
- 29:20like
- 29:20a
- 29:21zip
- 29:21wall
- 29:21system,
- 29:21which
- 29:22has
- 29:22that
- 29:22WRB
- 29:23built
- 29:23in,
- 29:23that
- 29:24green
- 29:24coating
- 29:25thats
- 29:25built
- 29:25in,
- 29:26which
- 29:26if
- 29:26thats
- 29:26done
- 29:27correctly
- 29:27with
- 29:27the
- 29:27tapes
- 29:28and
- 29:28so
- 29:28forth,
- 29:29is
- 29:29probably
- 29:29double
- 29:29the
- 29:30cost
- 29:30of
- 29:30OSB
- 29:30as
- 29:30well.
- 29:31But
- 29:32in
- 29:32any
- 29:32of
- 29:32these
- 29:33situations,
- 29:34this
- 29:34is
- 29:34just
- 29:35one
- 29:36part
- 29:36of
- 29:36the,
- 29:36of
- 29:36the
- 29:37entire
- 29:37system.
- 29:37It's
- 29:38one
- 29:38component.
- 29:38So
- 29:39one.
- 29:39It's
- 29:39one,
- 29:40it's
- 29:40one
- 29:40cup
- 29:41of
- 29:41water
- 29:41in
- 29:41the
- 29:41lake.
- 29:42Right,
- 29:42right.
- 29:43Exactly.
- 29:43And
- 29:43so
- 29:44what
- 29:45you
- 29:45do
- 29:45on
- 29:45the
- 29:45outside
- 29:46of
- 29:46that,
- 29:46on
- 29:46the
- 29:46inside
- 29:47of
- 29:47that,
- 29:47this
- 29:47is
- 29:47where
- 29:48it
- 29:48makes
- 29:48a
- 29:48difference.
- 29:49If
- 29:49you
- 29:50have
- 29:51an
- 29:51air
- 29:51gap
- 29:52or
- 29:52rain
- 29:52screen
- 29:53between
- 29:53the
- 29:54sheathing
- 29:54and
- 29:55your
- 29:55siding,
- 29:56that's
- 29:56going
- 29:56to
- 29:56eliminate
- 29:5795%
- 29:58to
- 29:5899%
- 29:59of
- 29:59the
- 29:59moisture
- 30:00wicking
- 30:00from
- 30:00condensation
- 30:01and
- 30:01wind
- 30:01driven
- 30:01rain.
- 30:02So
- 30:02then
- 30:02it
- 30:02doesn't
- 30:02matter
- 30:03what
- 30:03you
- 30:03have
- 30:03back
- 30:03there
- 30:04in
- 30:04the
- 30:04sense
- 30:04of
- 30:05water
- 30:05damage,
- 30:05because
- 30:06you've
- 30:06now
- 30:07stopped
- 30:07it
- 30:07and
- 30:07you've
- 30:08given
- 30:08a
- 30:08path
- 30:09for
- 30:09the
- 30:09water
- 30:09to
- 30:09go.
- 30:10Evan.
- 30:10Exactly.
- 30:10And
- 30:11then
- 30:11also
- 30:11keep
- 30:11in
- 30:11mind
- 30:11then,
- 30:12from
- 30:12a
- 30:12chemical
- 30:12standpoint,
- 30:13whether
- 30:14it's
- 30:14OSB
- 30:15or
- 30:15plywood,
- 30:16they
- 30:16still
- 30:16have
- 30:17to
- 30:17use
- 30:17adhesives
- 30:18to
- 30:18push
- 30:19them
- 30:19all
- 30:19together
- 30:19to
- 30:19glue
- 30:19it
- 30:19together.
- 30:20These
- 30:20adhesives
- 30:21that
- 30:21are
- 30:21being
- 30:22used
- 30:22now
- 30:22for
- 30:23moisture
- 30:23resistance
- 30:24exterior
- 30:25grade
- 30:25use
- 30:25are
- 30:26not
- 30:26urea
- 30:27formaldehyde
- 30:28based,
- 30:28urea
- 30:29formaldehyde
- 30:29base
- 30:30adhesives
- 30:30can
- 30:30only
- 30:31be
- 30:31used
- 30:31interior
- 30:32because
- 30:33they're
- 30:33not
- 30:33moisture
- 30:34resistant.
- 30:35For
- 30:35moisture
- 30:35resistant
- 30:36OSB
- 30:37and
- 30:37plywood,
- 30:38they
- 30:38use
- 30:38what's
- 30:38called
- 30:39phenyl
- 30:39formaldehyde
- 30:40or
- 30:40phenolic
- 30:41resin.
- 30:41And
- 30:41this
- 30:42resin
- 30:42is
- 30:42about
- 30:42200
- 30:43times
- 30:43less
- 30:44likely
- 30:44to
- 30:44ever
- 30:44become
- 30:45airborne.
- 30:45Matter
- 30:45of
- 30:46fact,
- 30:46in
- 30:46the
- 30:4630
- 30:46years
- 30:47of,
- 30:47in
- 30:47this
- 30:47business
- 30:48and
- 30:48testing
- 30:48materials,
- 30:49I
- 30:49have
- 30:50never
- 30:50had
- 30:50a
- 30:50phenolic
- 30:51resin
- 30:52based
- 30:52panel
- 30:53ever
- 30:53off
- 30:54gas
- 30:54formaldehyde.
- 30:55Nice.
- 30:56So
- 30:56I
- 30:56recommend
- 30:57it
- 30:57all
- 30:57the
- 30:57time.
- 30:57Yeah.
- 30:58So
- 30:58great
- 30:58example
- 30:59I
- 30:59just
- 30:59made
- 31:00for
- 31:00my
- 31:00around
- 31:00the
- 31:00house
- 31:01northwest
- 31:01tv
- 31:02show.
- 31:02I
- 31:02just
- 31:02made
- 31:03outdoor,
- 31:04for
- 31:04my
- 31:04outdoor
- 31:04kitchen,
- 31:05I
- 31:05made
- 31:06countertops
- 31:06out
- 31:06of
- 31:07paper
- 31:07stone.
- 31:07Nice.
- 31:08Love
- 31:09that
- 31:09stuff.
- 31:10It's
- 31:10awesome.
- 31:10It's
- 31:10great.
- 31:11And
- 31:11that
- 31:11is.
- 31:11That's
- 31:11the
- 31:12original
- 31:13phenolic
- 31:13based
- 31:14panel
- 31:14materials.
- 31:15This
- 31:15is,
- 31:15if
- 31:16you
- 31:16remember,
- 31:16if
- 31:17those
- 31:17of
- 31:17us
- 31:17who
- 31:17are
- 31:17old
- 31:17enough
- 31:17remember
- 31:18bakelite
- 31:19from
- 31:19way
- 31:19back
- 31:19in
- 31:19the
- 31:20day.
- 31:20Bakelite.
- 31:21These
- 31:21for
- 31:21handles
- 31:22for
- 31:22pots,
- 31:23too.
- 31:23Yeah.
- 31:24And
- 31:24then,
- 31:24like,
- 31:25what's
- 31:25on
- 31:25top
- 31:25of
- 31:25the
- 31:26electrical
- 31:26poles,
- 31:26the
- 31:26wires
- 31:27wrapped
- 31:27around.
- 31:27Yeah.
- 31:28So
- 31:28basically
- 31:28it's
- 31:29layers
- 31:29of
- 31:29paper
- 31:30soaked
- 31:30in
- 31:30a
- 31:30phenolic
- 31:30resin.
- 31:31And
- 31:31this
- 31:31is
- 31:32what
- 31:32is
- 31:32done
- 31:32now
- 31:32for
- 31:33paper,
- 31:33stone
- 31:33and
- 31:33rich
- 31:34light
- 31:34and
- 31:34all
- 31:34these
- 31:34other
- 31:34companies
- 31:34that
- 31:35make
- 31:35wonderful
- 31:35products.
- 31:36Yeah.
- 31:36It's
- 31:36completely
- 31:37inert.
- 31:38It's
- 31:38incredibly
- 31:39dense,
- 31:39very
- 31:39durable.
- 31:40You
- 31:40can
- 31:40cut
- 31:41directly
- 31:41on
- 31:41it.
- 31:42And
- 31:42while
- 31:42you
- 31:42might
- 31:42scratch
- 31:43the
- 31:43surface
- 31:43a
- 31:43bit,
- 31:43that
- 31:44could
- 31:44be
- 31:44renewed.
- 31:44No
- 31:44big
- 31:44deal.
- 31:45Yep.
- 31:45But
- 31:45it
- 31:45won't
- 31:46dull
- 31:46your
- 31:46expensive
- 31:46knives.
- 31:47Yeah.
- 31:47So
- 31:48it's
- 31:48a
- 31:48great
- 31:48product.
- 31:49And
- 31:49I
- 31:49can
- 31:49use
- 31:49it
- 31:50outside.
- 31:50It's
- 31:50heat
- 31:51rated,
- 31:51so
- 31:51I
- 31:51can
- 31:51use
- 31:52it
- 31:52up
- 31:52to,
- 31:52I
- 31:52think
- 31:52it's
- 31:52heat
- 31:52rated
- 31:53up
- 31:53to
- 31:53like
- 31:53375
- 31:54degrees.
- 31:54So
- 31:55if
- 31:55I
- 31:55put
- 31:56it
- 31:56next
- 31:56to
- 31:56a
- 31:56barbecue
- 31:57or
- 31:57next
- 31:57to
- 31:58my
- 31:58outdoor
- 31:58pizza
- 31:59oven,
- 31:59I'm
- 32:00not
- 32:00ruining
- 32:00it.
- 32:00It's
- 32:00just
- 32:01so
- 32:01good.
- 32:01And
- 32:02I
- 32:02can
- 32:02cut
- 32:02it
- 32:02like
- 32:02wood
- 32:03so
- 32:03I
- 32:03don't
- 32:03have
- 32:03to
- 32:03have
- 32:03a
- 32:03fabricator
- 32:05do
- 32:05it,
- 32:05which
- 32:05I
- 32:05think
- 32:05is
- 32:06the
- 32:06other
- 32:06part.
- 32:07And
- 32:07the
- 32:07thing
- 32:07I
- 32:07liked
- 32:08about
- 32:08Paperstone
- 32:08is
- 32:09the
- 32:09stuff
- 32:09I
- 32:09got
- 32:10was
- 32:10FSC
- 32:10certified.
- 32:11So
- 32:12it's
- 32:12clean.
- 32:13It's
- 32:13clean.
- 32:13And
- 32:14I've
- 32:14used
- 32:14that
- 32:15material
- 32:15for
- 32:15exterior
- 32:16cladding.
- 32:16Yeah.
- 32:17Commercial
- 32:17buildings.
- 32:18It's
- 32:18unbelievable.
- 32:19I
- 32:19got
- 32:19a
- 32:19piece
- 32:19outside
- 32:19my
- 32:20office
- 32:20window
- 32:21that
- 32:21is
- 32:21a
- 32:21cutoff
- 32:22from
- 32:22one
- 32:22of
- 32:22our
- 32:22jobs.
- 32:22It's
- 32:23been
- 32:23there
- 32:23for,
- 32:23I
- 32:23think,
- 32:24twelve
- 32:24years
- 32:25in
- 32:25the
- 32:25rain,
- 32:25in
- 32:26the
- 32:26snow.
- 32:26I'm
- 32:26in
- 32:26Wisconsin,
- 32:27but
- 32:2720
- 32:27below
- 32:27zero
- 32:28in
- 32:28the
- 32:28winter
- 32:28and
- 32:28100
- 32:29in
- 32:29the
- 32:29summer.
- 32:30It
- 32:30hasn't
- 32:31changed
- 32:31at
- 32:31all.
- 32:31Yeah.
- 32:32If
- 32:32you
- 32:32want
- 32:32it
- 32:32to
- 32:32look
- 32:32really
- 32:33good,
- 32:33throw
- 32:33some
- 32:33of
- 32:33that
- 32:34spray
- 32:34wax
- 32:34on
- 32:34it.
- 32:35Wax
- 32:35wax
- 32:36on
- 32:36it.
- 32:36And
- 32:36man,
- 32:37it
- 32:37looks
- 32:37like
- 32:37it's
- 32:38brand
- 32:38new.
- 32:38Day
- 32:38one
- 32:38again.
- 32:39Exactly.
- 32:40Yeah.
- 32:40Beautiful
- 32:40material.
- 32:41Yeah,
- 32:41it's
- 32:41great.
- 32:42It's
- 32:42great.
- 32:43So
- 32:43what
- 32:43do
- 32:43you
- 32:43think
- 32:44now?
- 32:44Heres
- 32:45my
- 32:45question
- 32:45for
- 32:45you.
- 32:46How
- 32:46do
- 32:46we
- 32:47deal
- 32:47with
- 32:47this
- 32:48today
- 32:49and
- 32:50were
- 32:50getting
- 32:50so
- 32:50much
- 32:51new
- 32:51information
- 32:52as
- 32:52far
- 32:53as
- 32:53healthy
- 32:54air
- 32:54inside
- 32:54our
- 32:54homes?
- 32:55I
- 32:55think
- 32:55people
- 32:56woke
- 32:56up
- 32:57about
- 32:57indoor
- 32:58air
- 32:58quality
- 32:58a
- 32:58little
- 32:59bit
- 32:59when
- 32:59they
- 32:59were
- 32:59home
- 33:00during
- 33:00the
- 33:00COVID
- 33:00years
- 33:01here
- 33:01and
- 33:01people
- 33:02started
- 33:02paying
- 33:02attention.
- 33:03But
- 33:04it
- 33:05seems
- 33:05to
- 33:05be
- 33:05a
- 33:05little
- 33:05bit
- 33:06of
- 33:06the
- 33:06Wild
- 33:06West.
- 33:06I
- 33:07put
- 33:07an
- 33:07air
- 33:07scrubber
- 33:08in
- 33:09my
- 33:09house.
- 33:09I'm
- 33:09not
- 33:09going
- 33:09to
- 33:10say
- 33:10the
- 33:10brand
- 33:10name
- 33:10because
- 33:10I'm
- 33:11going
- 33:11to
- 33:11say
- 33:11something
- 33:11bad
- 33:11about
- 33:12it,
- 33:12but
- 33:13what
- 33:13I
- 33:13don't
- 33:13like
- 33:13about
- 33:14it
- 33:14is
- 33:14when
- 33:14my
- 33:14wife
- 33:15is
- 33:15going
- 33:15to
- 33:15go
- 33:16bake,
- 33:16I
- 33:17have
- 33:17to
- 33:17go
- 33:17turn
- 33:18it
- 33:18off
- 33:18and
- 33:18unplug
- 33:19it
- 33:19because
- 33:20it
- 33:20will
- 33:20actually
- 33:20kill
- 33:21the
- 33:21yeast
- 33:22and
- 33:22her
- 33:23dough
- 33:23will
- 33:23not
- 33:24rise.
- 33:24Evan,
- 33:24that's
- 33:25wild.
- 33:25So
- 33:25I'm
- 33:26like,
- 33:26wait
- 33:26a
- 33:26minute.
- 33:26And
- 33:26it's
- 33:26giving.
- 33:27It's
- 33:27one
- 33:27of
- 33:27the
- 33:28hydroxyl
- 33:28type
- 33:29systems.
- 33:29Right.
- 33:30But
- 33:30I'm
- 33:30like,
- 33:31health
- 33:31wise
- 33:32for
- 33:32me,
- 33:32I'm
- 33:33like,
- 33:34wait
- 33:34a
- 33:34minute.
- 33:35How
- 33:35healthy
- 33:36is
- 33:36that
- 33:36for
- 33:36me?
- 33:38If
- 33:38that
- 33:38yeast
- 33:39thats
- 33:39sitting
- 33:39there
- 33:40in
- 33:40a
- 33:40bowl
- 33:40on
- 33:40the
- 33:41countertop,
- 33:41we
- 33:41just
- 33:41did
- 33:42wont
- 33:43rise.
- 33:43And
- 33:43if
- 33:44I
- 33:44take
- 33:44it
- 33:44outside
- 33:45right
- 33:45away
- 33:45and
- 33:46put
- 33:46it
- 33:46outside
- 33:46on
- 33:46the
- 33:46outdoor
- 33:47kitchen
- 33:47counter
- 33:48and
- 33:48its
- 33:48the
- 33:48same
- 33:48temp,
- 33:49it
- 33:49does
- 33:49great.
- 33:50Evan,
- 33:50again,
- 33:51this
- 33:51is
- 33:51like
- 33:51the
- 33:51unintended
- 33:52consequence
- 33:52of
- 33:53trying
- 33:53to
- 33:53do
- 33:53the
- 33:53right
- 33:53thing.
- 33:54Were
- 33:54trying
- 33:55to
- 33:55make
- 33:55our
- 33:55indoor
- 33:55air
- 33:56quality
- 33:56cleaner,
- 33:57but
- 33:57theres
- 33:58no,
- 33:58I
- 33:59should
- 33:59say
- 33:59theres
- 33:59very
- 33:59few
- 34:00ways
- 34:00right
- 34:00now
- 34:01that
- 34:01we
- 34:01can
- 34:02filter
- 34:03what
- 34:03we
- 34:03want
- 34:04to
- 34:04filter.
- 34:04It's
- 34:04like
- 34:04an
- 34:05ro
- 34:05system
- 34:05for
- 34:05water,
- 34:06right?
- 34:06Yeah.
- 34:06A
- 34:07reverse
- 34:07osmosis
- 34:07system
- 34:08for
- 34:08water.
- 34:08Takes
- 34:09everything
- 34:09out
- 34:09of
- 34:09the
- 34:09water.
- 34:10Yeah.
- 34:10It
- 34:10doesn't
- 34:10just
- 34:10take
- 34:11the
- 34:11bad
- 34:11stuff,
- 34:11but
- 34:11it
- 34:11takes
- 34:12the
- 34:12good
- 34:12stuff
- 34:12out,
- 34:12too.
- 34:13And
- 34:13I
- 34:13think
- 34:13like
- 34:14these,
- 34:14these
- 34:15hydroxyl
- 34:16type
- 34:16cleaning
- 34:17systems,
- 34:17they
- 34:18sanitize
- 34:19so
- 34:19well.
- 34:20Then
- 34:20it
- 34:21sanitizes
- 34:21out
- 34:21the
- 34:22good
- 34:22yeast.
- 34:23Yeah,
- 34:23I
- 34:23can
- 34:23definitely
- 34:24see
- 34:24that.
- 34:24And
- 34:24I
- 34:24think
- 34:25that
- 34:25this
- 34:25is
- 34:25where
- 34:26having
- 34:26a
- 34:26good,
- 34:27healthy
- 34:27home
- 34:28consultant
- 34:28in
- 34:29the
- 34:29project
- 34:30to
- 34:30say,
- 34:31to
- 34:31ask
- 34:31those
- 34:31questions,
- 34:31it's
- 34:32like
- 34:32having
- 34:32a
- 34:32good
- 34:32interior
- 34:33designer,
- 34:33to
- 34:33me,
- 34:34I
- 34:34love
- 34:35working
- 34:35with
- 34:35really
- 34:35good
- 34:36interior
- 34:36designers
- 34:36because
- 34:37they
- 34:37ask
- 34:37the
- 34:37questions
- 34:38that
- 34:38an
- 34:38architect
- 34:39won't
- 34:39answer
- 34:39or
- 34:40ask
- 34:40or
- 34:40a
- 34:41contractor
- 34:41doesn't
- 34:41necessarily
- 34:42ask.
- 34:42They
- 34:42ask,
- 34:43how
- 34:43do
- 34:43you
- 34:43live
- 34:43in
- 34:44your
- 34:44house?
- 34:45So
- 34:45if
- 34:45you
- 34:45told
- 34:45me,
- 34:46we
- 34:46like
- 34:46to
- 34:46bake
- 34:47bread,
- 34:47okay,
- 34:48I
- 34:48can't
- 34:48use
- 34:48an
- 34:48air
- 34:49purification
- 34:49system
- 34:49that's
- 34:50going
- 34:50to
- 34:50kill
- 34:50off
- 34:50all
- 34:50the
- 34:51good
- 34:51yeast
- 34:52as
- 34:52well.
- 34:52So,
- 34:53yeah,
- 34:53it's,
- 34:53it's.
- 34:54But
- 34:54we're
- 34:54learning
- 34:54this
- 34:55as
- 34:55we
- 34:55go.
- 34:55And
- 34:55you're
- 34:55right,
- 34:56it's
- 34:56the.
- 34:57Because
- 34:57of
- 34:57COVID
- 34:58healthy
- 34:59home
- 34:59topics
- 35:00are
- 35:00now
- 35:00top
- 35:01of
- 35:01mind.
- 35:01Yeah,
- 35:02I
- 35:02think
- 35:02that
- 35:03it
- 35:03was
- 35:03a
- 35:04big
- 35:04awakening.
- 35:05Our
- 35:05homes
- 35:06can
- 35:06be
- 35:06the
- 35:06cause
- 35:06of
- 35:07a
- 35:07lot
- 35:07of
- 35:07our
- 35:07problems.
- 35:08Not
- 35:08Covid,
- 35:08but
- 35:09all
- 35:09these
- 35:09other
- 35:09things
- 35:10that
- 35:10are
- 35:10happening
- 35:11that.
- 35:11And
- 35:11also
- 35:12in
- 35:12the
- 35:12last
- 35:12five
- 35:12to
- 35:13ten
- 35:13years,
- 35:13there
- 35:13has
- 35:14been
- 35:14so
- 35:14much
- 35:15research
- 35:15coming
- 35:15out
- 35:16about
- 35:17our.
- 35:17About
- 35:17genetics
- 35:18and
- 35:18about
- 35:18how
- 35:19there
- 35:19are,
- 35:19there's
- 35:20about
- 35:2025%
- 35:20of
- 35:20the
- 35:21population
- 35:21that
- 35:21has
- 35:21the
- 35:22genetic
- 35:22predisposition
- 35:23to
- 35:23have
- 35:24mold
- 35:24sensitivity.
- 35:25And
- 35:26mold
- 35:26sensitivity
- 35:27is
- 35:27what
- 35:27leads
- 35:27to
- 35:28chemical
- 35:28sensitivity
- 35:29and
- 35:29electromagnetic
- 35:30sensitivities
- 35:31this
- 35:31is
- 35:32all
- 35:32just
- 35:32coming
- 35:32out
- 35:33in
- 35:33the
- 35:33last
- 35:33few
- 35:34years,
- 35:34I
- 35:34think
- 35:34were
- 35:35on
- 35:35the
- 35:35tip
- 35:35of
- 35:35the
- 35:35iceberg.
- 35:36Evan.
- 35:36Absolutely.
- 35:37I
- 35:37can
- 35:37walk
- 35:37into
- 35:37a
- 35:38house
- 35:38and
- 35:39being
- 35:39an
- 35:39interior
- 35:40designer,
- 35:40kitchen
- 35:40and
- 35:40bath
- 35:41designer
- 35:41for
- 35:4130
- 35:42years,
- 35:42I
- 35:43could
- 35:43walk
- 35:43into
- 35:43a
- 35:43house
- 35:44because
- 35:44of
- 35:44my
- 35:44mold
- 35:45allergies.
- 35:45I
- 35:46can
- 35:46walk
- 35:46in
- 35:46and
- 35:46go,
- 35:47wheres
- 35:47your
- 35:47mold
- 35:47problem?
- 35:48Yeah,
- 35:49I
- 35:49can.
- 35:49I
- 35:50am
- 35:50like
- 35:50the
- 35:50canary
- 35:50in
- 35:51the
- 35:51coal
- 35:51mine.
- 35:51I
- 35:51can
- 35:51walk
- 35:52in
- 35:52and
- 35:52go,
- 35:52you
- 35:53got
- 35:53a
- 35:53problem
- 35:53in
- 35:53here?
- 35:53Let's
- 35:54not
- 35:54talk
- 35:54about
- 35:54the
- 35:54kitchen.
- 35:55What's
- 35:56rotting?
- 35:57I
- 35:58smell
- 35:58mold.
- 35:58Where
- 35:59is
- 35:59it?
- 35:59You're
- 36:00the
- 36:00human
- 36:00mold
- 36:00dog,
- 36:01right?
- 36:01Yeah.
- 36:02I
- 36:02can
- 36:02get
- 36:02it
- 36:02in
- 36:025
- 36:03seconds.
- 36:03Literally.
- 36:04I
- 36:05just
- 36:05do
- 36:05that.
- 36:05And
- 36:06so
- 36:06when
- 36:07I
- 36:07was
- 36:07out
- 36:07looking
- 36:07at
- 36:07homes
- 36:08to
- 36:08buy.
- 36:08It's
- 36:08bad.
- 36:08I
- 36:09can
- 36:09walk
- 36:09in
- 36:09and
- 36:09go,
- 36:10nope,
- 36:10don't
- 36:10want
- 36:10to
- 36:10deal
- 36:10with
- 36:11it.
- 36:11Don't
- 36:11like
- 36:11the
- 36:11house
- 36:11that
- 36:11well
- 36:11to
- 36:12even
- 36:12go
- 36:13farther.
- 36:13We're
- 36:13out.
- 36:13No.
- 36:14What
- 36:14do
- 36:14you
- 36:14mean?
- 36:14So
- 36:14it's
- 36:14interesting,
- 36:14you,
- 36:15you
- 36:15probably
- 36:16are
- 36:16then
- 36:16in
- 36:16that
- 36:1725%
- 36:17where
- 36:17you
- 36:18have,
- 36:18um,
- 36:18mold
- 36:19sensitivity.
- 36:20But
- 36:20you
- 36:20probably
- 36:20also
- 36:21have
- 36:21a
- 36:21very
- 36:21good
- 36:21immune
- 36:22system
- 36:22where
- 36:22it
- 36:23doesn't
- 36:23necessarily
- 36:24affect
- 36:24you
- 36:25quickly.
- 36:26Yeah,
- 36:26but
- 36:26I
- 36:26I'm
- 36:27noticing
- 36:27more
- 36:28great
- 36:28example
- 36:29and
- 36:29this
- 36:29is
- 36:29something
- 36:30sawdust.
- 36:31If
- 36:32I'm
- 36:32out
- 36:32cutting
- 36:33hemp
- 36:34for
- 36:34lumber
- 36:35all
- 36:35day
- 36:35working
- 36:36on
- 36:36a
- 36:36project
- 36:37and
- 36:37I
- 36:37get
- 36:37it
- 36:37all
- 36:37around
- 36:38my
- 36:38collar
- 36:38and
- 36:38stuff,
- 36:39my
- 36:40neck
- 36:40is
- 36:40all
- 36:41red
- 36:41from
- 36:41broken
- 36:41out.
- 36:42So
- 36:42I'm
- 36:42noticing
- 36:43different
- 36:44sensitivities
- 36:45now
- 36:45at
- 36:45age
- 36:4653
- 36:46that
- 36:46I
- 36:47didn't
- 36:47have
- 36:47before.
- 36:48Yeah.
- 36:49Because
- 36:49I've
- 36:49exposed
- 36:50myself
- 36:50to
- 36:51that
- 36:51enough.
- 36:51Right.
- 36:51So
- 36:52that's
- 36:52it.
- 36:52And
- 36:53somebody
- 36:53becomes
- 36:54sensitive
- 36:54to
- 36:54these
- 36:54things
- 36:55usually
- 36:55by
- 36:56long
- 36:56term
- 36:56exposure.
- 36:57A
- 36:57little
- 36:58small
- 36:58exposure,
- 36:58but
- 36:59long
- 36:59term
- 37:00or
- 37:00it's
- 37:00a
- 37:00massive
- 37:00exposure.
- 37:01You
- 37:02walk
- 37:02into
- 37:03a
- 37:03house
- 37:03where
- 37:04they
- 37:04just
- 37:04sprayed
- 37:05pesticides
- 37:06or
- 37:06you've
- 37:07been
- 37:07exposed
- 37:07to
- 37:07something
- 37:08at
- 37:08work
- 37:08or
- 37:09whatever
- 37:09the
- 37:09case
- 37:09was,
- 37:10even
- 37:10something
- 37:11like
- 37:11a
- 37:11massive
- 37:12health
- 37:13issue
- 37:13like
- 37:14major
- 37:14surgery
- 37:14or
- 37:15a
- 37:15car
- 37:15accident
- 37:15or
- 37:16childbirth,
- 37:17it
- 37:17can
- 37:17change
- 37:17the
- 37:17body
- 37:18chemistry.
- 37:18So
- 37:18these
- 37:19things
- 37:19can
- 37:19actually
- 37:19change
- 37:21how
- 37:21your
- 37:22immune
- 37:22system
- 37:23responds.
- 37:24And
- 37:25so
- 37:25yeah,
- 37:26at
- 37:2653
- 37:27myself,
- 37:27Im
- 37:27finding
- 37:28that
- 37:28I
- 37:29am
- 37:29now
- 37:30sensitive
- 37:30to
- 37:30things
- 37:30that
- 37:30I
- 37:31never
- 37:31thought
- 37:31would
- 37:31be
- 37:31a
- 37:31problem.
- 37:32And
- 37:32Im
- 37:32in
- 37:33this
- 37:33business,
- 37:33Im
- 37:34surrounded
- 37:34by
- 37:34healthy
- 37:35materials
- 37:35all
- 37:35the
- 37:35time.
- 37:36And
- 37:36maybe
- 37:36thats
- 37:37one
- 37:37of
- 37:37the
- 37:37reasons
- 37:37why.
- 37:38Cause
- 37:38I'm
- 37:38not
- 37:38inundated
- 37:39myself
- 37:39with
- 37:39the
- 37:39garbage
- 37:40all
- 37:40the
- 37:40time.
- 37:41That
- 37:41when
- 37:41I
- 37:41do
- 37:41come
- 37:42in
- 37:42contact
- 37:42with
- 37:43the
- 37:43real
- 37:43lousy
- 37:43materials,
- 37:44it
- 37:44instantly
- 37:45hits
- 37:45me.
- 37:46It's
- 37:46wild.
- 37:46It's
- 37:47wild.
- 37:47And
- 37:47it's
- 37:47just
- 37:47one
- 37:47of
- 37:48those
- 37:48things.
- 37:48You
- 37:48go,
- 37:48oh,
- 37:49okay,
- 37:50I'm
- 37:50seeing
- 37:50this
- 37:51and
- 37:51it's
- 37:51getting
- 37:52interesting
- 37:52too.
- 37:52We
- 37:53have
- 37:53so
- 37:53many
- 37:53things
- 37:54going
- 37:54on
- 37:54and
- 37:54there's
- 37:55so
- 37:55many
- 37:55things
- 37:55out
- 37:56there
- 37:56that
- 37:56you
- 37:56can
- 37:56solve
- 37:57too,
- 37:57like
- 37:58how
- 37:58many
- 37:58moldy
- 37:58bathrooms
- 37:59are
- 37:59there
- 37:59out
- 37:59there?
- 38:00But
- 38:00at
- 38:00the
- 38:00same
- 38:00point,
- 38:01you
- 38:01can
- 38:01go
- 38:01in
- 38:01and
- 38:02these
- 38:02days
- 38:03and
- 38:03put
- 38:03in
- 38:03one
- 38:03of
- 38:03the
- 38:03good
- 38:04bathroom
- 38:04systems
- 38:05behind
- 38:05the
- 38:05tile.
- 38:05That's
- 38:06going
- 38:06to
- 38:06do
- 38:06a
- 38:06much
- 38:06better
- 38:07job
- 38:07of
- 38:07preventing
- 38:07it
- 38:08with
- 38:08less
- 38:08errors.
- 38:09Traditionally,
- 38:10there's
- 38:10shower
- 38:11drying
- 38:11systems.
- 38:12You
- 38:12don't
- 38:12have
- 38:12to
- 38:13have
- 38:13a
- 38:13wet,
- 38:13moldy
- 38:14shower
- 38:14when
- 38:14you're
- 38:15in
- 38:15there.
- 38:15There's
- 38:15so
- 38:15many
- 38:16different
- 38:16things
- 38:16out
- 38:16there
- 38:17that
- 38:17are
- 38:17solutions
- 38:18to
- 38:18these
- 38:18problems.
- 38:19But
- 38:19we
- 38:19really
- 38:19have
- 38:20to,
- 38:20when
- 38:21we're
- 38:21designing
- 38:21these
- 38:21spaces,
- 38:22really
- 38:22work
- 38:23with
- 38:23that
- 38:23and
- 38:24try
- 38:24to
- 38:24figure
- 38:24out
- 38:24the
- 38:24best
- 38:25solution
- 38:25for
- 38:25everybody.
- 38:26Yeah,
- 38:26I
- 38:26think
- 38:26that's
- 38:26the,
- 38:27that's
- 38:27the
- 38:27biggest
- 38:27thing
- 38:28is,
- 38:28is
- 38:28making
- 38:28sure
- 38:28that
- 38:28we're
- 38:29planning
- 38:29for
- 38:29this.
- 38:29Like
- 38:29I
- 38:30said
- 38:30earlier,
- 38:30just
- 38:31assume
- 38:31there's
- 38:32going
- 38:32to
- 38:32be
- 38:32a
- 38:32moisture
- 38:33issue
- 38:33at
- 38:33some
- 38:33point.
- 38:33So
- 38:33let's
- 38:34plan
- 38:34for
- 38:34that.
- 38:35And
- 38:35we
- 38:36know
- 38:36we
- 38:36can't
- 38:36avoid
- 38:37moisture
- 38:38in
- 38:38a
- 38:38shower.
- 38:39This
- 38:39is
- 38:39what
- 38:40a
- 38:40shower
- 38:40is.
- 38:40So
- 38:41how
- 38:41do
- 38:41we,
- 38:41how
- 38:42do
- 38:42we
- 38:42get
- 38:42rid
- 38:42of
- 38:42that
- 38:43moisture
- 38:43properly
- 38:43so
- 38:43it
- 38:44doesn't
- 38:44become
- 38:44a
- 38:44problem
- 38:44down
- 38:45the
- 38:45road?
- 38:45How
- 38:45do
- 38:45we
- 38:46get
- 38:46rid
- 38:47of
- 38:47the
- 38:47moisture
- 38:47between
- 38:47the,
- 38:48in
- 38:48the
- 38:48cavity
- 38:48walls
- 38:49of
- 38:49our
- 38:49homes
- 38:50so
- 38:50it
- 38:50doesn't
- 38:50sit
- 38:51there
- 38:51and
- 38:51then,
- 38:51and
- 38:51cause
- 38:52a
- 38:52festering
- 38:53mold
- 38:53problem?
- 38:53Yeah.
- 38:54So
- 38:54we
- 38:54know
- 38:54it's
- 38:55going
- 38:55to
- 38:55get
- 38:55in
- 38:55there.
- 38:56Let's
- 38:56just
- 38:56understand
- 38:57that
- 38:58and
- 38:58agree
- 38:58to
- 38:58that.
- 38:59Now.
- 38:59How
- 38:59do
- 38:59we
- 38:59get
- 38:59rid
- 39:00of
- 39:00that?
- 39:00How
- 39:00do
- 39:00we
- 39:00alleviate
- 39:00that
- 39:01as
- 39:01a
- 39:01problem
- 39:01and
- 39:02we
- 39:02don't
- 39:02have
- 39:02to
- 39:02worry
- 39:02about
- 39:02it
- 39:02down
- 39:02the
- 39:03road?
- 39:03Yeah.
- 39:03And
- 39:04how
- 39:04do
- 39:04you
- 39:04put
- 39:04instead
- 39:05of
- 39:05insulation,
- 39:05maybe,
- 39:06maybe
- 39:06not
- 39:06doing
- 39:07spray
- 39:07foam,
- 39:07maybe
- 39:08doing,
- 39:08you
- 39:08know,
- 39:08a
- 39:08rockwool
- 39:09or
- 39:09something
- 39:09else
- 39:09like
- 39:10that
- 39:10that's
- 39:10going
- 39:10to
- 39:10be
- 39:10much
- 39:10more
- 39:11resistant
- 39:11and
- 39:11maybe
- 39:12not
- 39:12going
- 39:12to
- 39:12sag
- 39:12down
- 39:12if
- 39:13it
- 39:13gets
- 39:13moist.
- 39:13Yeah,
- 39:14exactly.
- 39:14100%.
- 39:15That's
- 39:16the
- 39:16cool
- 39:16stuff.
- 39:17So
- 39:17what
- 39:17are
- 39:17you
- 39:17seeing
- 39:17in
- 39:18technology
- 39:18now?
- 39:18I
- 39:19know
- 39:19we're
- 39:19running
- 39:19a
- 39:19little
- 39:19bit
- 39:20out
- 39:20of
- 39:20time
- 39:20here
- 39:20before
- 39:20we
- 39:21talk
- 39:21some
- 39:21whiskey,
- 39:21but
- 39:22I
- 39:22wanted
- 39:22to
- 39:23see
- 39:23where
- 39:23do
- 39:23you
- 39:24see
- 39:24science
- 39:24going
- 39:24right
- 39:25now?
- 39:25We
- 39:25see
- 39:25a
- 39:25lot
- 39:25of
- 39:25air
- 39:26sensors
- 39:26now
- 39:26in
- 39:26people's
- 39:27homes
- 39:27where
- 39:27they're
- 39:27all
- 39:28of
- 39:28a
- 39:28sudden
- 39:28looking
- 39:29at
- 39:29PM
- 39:292.5.
- 39:30I
- 39:30can
- 39:31look
- 39:31over,
- 39:31I've
- 39:31got
- 39:32one
- 39:32of
- 39:32the
- 39:33bro
- 39:33newtone
- 39:33ones
- 39:34in
- 39:34my
- 39:34living
- 39:34room
- 39:34that
- 39:34I
- 39:34look
- 39:35over
- 39:35and
- 39:35go,
- 39:35huh,
- 39:35I
- 39:35wonder
- 39:35why
- 39:36that's
- 39:36yellow.
- 39:36So
- 39:37it's
- 39:37trying
- 39:37to
- 39:37figure
- 39:37stuff
- 39:38out,
- 39:38but
- 39:38it's,
- 39:39you're
- 39:40always
- 39:40learning
- 39:40with
- 39:40this
- 39:41stuff.
- 39:41But
- 39:41where
- 39:42do
- 39:42you
- 39:42see
- 39:42science
- 39:42going
- 39:43right
- 39:43now?
- 39:43Because
- 39:43there's
- 39:44been
- 39:44a
- 39:44lot
- 39:44of
- 39:44different
- 39:45materials
- 39:45out
- 39:45there.
- 39:46Look
- 39:46what
- 39:46happened
- 39:46to
- 39:46lumber
- 39:47liquidators
- 39:47ten
- 39:48years
- 39:48ago
- 39:48with
- 39:49their
- 39:49urea
- 39:50formaldehyde
- 39:50problem.
- 39:51And
- 39:51now
- 39:51where
- 39:52they're
- 39:52at
- 39:52today,
- 39:53we're
- 39:53seeing
- 39:53a
- 39:53lot
- 39:54of
- 39:54things
- 39:54changing
- 39:54out
- 39:54there
- 39:55with
- 39:55people's
- 39:56eyes
- 39:56getting
- 39:56opened
- 39:56up
- 39:57to
- 39:57building
- 39:57materials.
- 39:58So
- 39:58for
- 39:59the
- 39:59longest
- 39:59time,
- 39:59we
- 40:00saw
- 40:00a
- 40:00lot
- 40:01happening
- 40:01with,
- 40:01like,
- 40:02smart
- 40:02home
- 40:02technology.
- 40:03And
- 40:04now
- 40:04we're
- 40:05finding
- 40:05that
- 40:06there's
- 40:06a
- 40:06marriage
- 40:07between
- 40:07smart
- 40:07home
- 40:08technology
- 40:08and
- 40:09health.
- 40:10So
- 40:10all
- 40:11these
- 40:11air
- 40:11quality
- 40:12testers
- 40:12that
- 40:13you
- 40:13can
- 40:13install
- 40:13into
- 40:13your
- 40:14system
- 40:15that
- 40:15it
- 40:16basically
- 40:16just
- 40:16pops
- 40:17up
- 40:17on
- 40:17your,
- 40:17on
- 40:17your
- 40:17cell
- 40:18phone
- 40:18to
- 40:18say
- 40:19there's
- 40:19a
- 40:19problem
- 40:19at
- 40:19home.
- 40:21Information
- 40:22is
- 40:22always
- 40:23powerful,
- 40:23information
- 40:24is
- 40:24always
- 40:25needed.
- 40:25But
- 40:25its
- 40:26how
- 40:26you
- 40:26interpret
- 40:26that
- 40:27information.
- 40:27I
- 40:28do
- 40:28see
- 40:28that
- 40:29it
- 40:29causes
- 40:30a
- 40:30lot
- 40:30of
- 40:31anxiety,
- 40:31a
- 40:31lot
- 40:32of
- 40:32stress,
- 40:33when
- 40:33people
- 40:33see
- 40:34that
- 40:34their
- 40:34PM
- 40:352.5
- 40:35level
- 40:36is
- 40:36up,
- 40:36but
- 40:37they
- 40:37fail
- 40:37to
- 40:38remember
- 40:38that
- 40:38maybe
- 40:38a
- 40:38window
- 40:39is
- 40:39open
- 40:39and
- 40:39somebody
- 40:40was
- 40:40burning
- 40:40leaves
- 40:40down
- 40:41the
- 40:41road.
- 40:41And
- 40:42so
- 40:44I
- 40:44will
- 40:44be
- 40:44honest
- 40:44with
- 40:44you.
- 40:4550%
- 40:45of
- 40:46most
- 40:46of
- 40:46my
- 40:46consulting
- 40:47calls
- 40:48deals
- 40:48with
- 40:48stress
- 40:49control
- 40:50and
- 40:50understanding
- 40:51that
- 40:52the
- 40:52stress
- 40:53reactions
- 40:53that
- 40:53we
- 40:53get
- 40:54from
- 40:54all
- 40:55the
- 40:55potential
- 40:56toxins
- 40:56and
- 40:56so
- 40:57forth
- 40:57can
- 40:57actually
- 40:58cause
- 40:58the
- 40:58exact
- 40:59same
- 40:59adrenaline
- 40:59release
- 41:00and
- 41:00the
- 41:00exact
- 41:01same
- 41:01symptoms
- 41:01as
- 41:01if
- 41:02you
- 41:02were
- 41:03being
- 41:03inundated
- 41:04with
- 41:04a
- 41:04chemical
- 41:04with
- 41:04mold.
- 41:05So
- 41:05there's
- 41:05a
- 41:05lot
- 41:06of
- 41:06stress
- 41:06relief
- 41:07happening
- 41:07in
- 41:07these
- 41:07calls
- 41:08technology.
- 41:09I
- 41:10think
- 41:10right
- 41:11now,
- 41:1295%
- 41:13of
- 41:13what
- 41:14I
- 41:14read
- 41:15in
- 41:15the
- 41:15trade
- 41:15publications,
- 41:17what
- 41:17I
- 41:17see
- 41:17at
- 41:18the
- 41:18trade
- 41:19shows,
- 41:20deals
- 41:20with
- 41:21health
- 41:21of
- 41:21the
- 41:22occupants
- 41:22in
- 41:23one
- 41:23way
- 41:23or
- 41:23another.
- 41:24And
- 41:24I
- 41:24think
- 41:25this
- 41:25is
- 41:25where
- 41:26we
- 41:26have
- 41:27a
- 41:27chance
- 41:27for
- 41:27a
- 41:27complete
- 41:28paradigm
- 41:28shift
- 41:29in
- 41:29our
- 41:29industry
- 41:30to
- 41:31now
- 41:31start
- 41:32building
- 41:33and
- 41:33remodeling
- 41:34truly
- 41:34healthy
- 41:34homes,
- 41:35not
- 41:35just
- 41:35because
- 41:36we're
- 41:36trying
- 41:36to
- 41:36do
- 41:36our
- 41:37best
- 41:37to
- 41:37save
- 41:38the
- 41:38environment,
- 41:38but
- 41:39because
- 41:39we
- 41:39have
- 41:40to
- 41:40exist
- 41:40here
- 41:40in
- 41:40this
- 41:41environment.
- 41:41What
- 41:41good
- 41:41is
- 41:42saving
- 41:42the
- 41:43environment
- 41:43if
- 41:43we're
- 41:43still
- 41:43poisoning
- 41:44out
- 41:44of
- 41:44the
- 41:44human
- 41:44occupants?
- 41:45And
- 41:45I
- 41:45think
- 41:45we're
- 41:46finally
- 41:46starting
- 41:46to
- 41:46get
- 41:47that
- 41:47as
- 41:47an
- 41:47industry.
- 41:48I've
- 41:48never
- 41:49been
- 41:49more
- 41:49excited.
- 41:49I've
- 41:50been
- 41:50in
- 41:50this
- 41:50business
- 41:50for
- 41:50over
- 41:5030
- 41:51years.
- 41:51I
- 41:51have
- 41:52never
- 41:52been
- 41:52more
- 41:52excited
- 41:53to
- 41:53be
- 41:53in
- 41:53it
- 41:53than
- 41:53I
- 41:53am
- 41:54right
- 41:54now.
- 41:54That's
- 41:55awesome.
- 41:55Yeah.
- 41:56There's
- 41:56three
- 41:56things
- 41:56I've
- 41:57been
- 41:57screaming
- 41:57from
- 41:58the
- 41:58rooftops
- 41:58on
- 41:59home
- 41:59tech
- 41:59for
- 42:00inside
- 42:00the
- 42:00homes.
- 42:01One
- 42:02is
- 42:02I
- 42:02want
- 42:02an
- 42:02erv
- 42:03system
- 42:03that's
- 42:04measuring
- 42:04the
- 42:05incoming
- 42:05air
- 42:05quality
- 42:06and
- 42:07comparing
- 42:07it
- 42:07to
- 42:07the
- 42:08indoor
- 42:08air
- 42:08quality.
- 42:09Yes.
- 42:09And
- 42:09if
- 42:09the
- 42:10outdoor
- 42:10air
- 42:10quality
- 42:11is
- 42:11worse,
- 42:11he
- 42:12shut
- 42:12her
- 42:12down
- 42:13for
- 42:13me.
- 42:13How
- 42:13hard
- 42:14is
- 42:14this?
- 42:14It's
- 42:15not
- 42:15simple.
- 42:16Simple,
- 42:16you
- 42:16know,
- 42:17go.
- 42:17Now's
- 42:18not
- 42:18the
- 42:18time
- 42:18to
- 42:19run
- 42:19that.
- 42:19Yeah,
- 42:20can't
- 42:20be
- 42:20that
- 42:21hard.
- 42:21I've
- 42:21been
- 42:21screaming
- 42:21for
- 42:22that
- 42:22one
- 42:22for
- 42:22like,
- 42:23three
- 42:23years
- 42:23now,
- 42:24because
- 42:24for
- 42:24me,
- 42:25it's
- 42:25in
- 42:25it.
- 42:26It's
- 42:26for
- 42:26everybody
- 42:26out
- 42:27there.
- 42:27But
- 42:27for
- 42:27me,
- 42:27when
- 42:28we
- 42:28have
- 42:28western
- 42:29wildfire
- 42:29smoke,
- 42:30I
- 42:30tell
- 42:31people,
- 42:31hey,
- 42:32go
- 42:32turn
- 42:32that
- 42:32unit
- 42:33off
- 42:33for
- 42:33a
- 42:33couple
- 42:33of
- 42:34days,
- 42:34but
- 42:34make
- 42:35sure
- 42:35you
- 42:35set
- 42:35an
- 42:36appointment
- 42:36on
- 42:37your
- 42:37calendar
- 42:38when
- 42:38you're
- 42:38going
- 42:38to
- 42:38be
- 42:39home
- 42:39to
- 42:40remind
- 42:40you
- 42:41to
- 42:41turn
- 42:41it
- 42:41back
- 42:41on
- 42:41again.
- 42:42Right.
- 42:43Exactly
- 42:43right.
- 42:44Yeah.
- 42:44We
- 42:44have
- 42:44a
- 42:44technology,
- 42:46folks.
- 42:46We
- 42:46have
- 42:46the
- 42:46technology
- 42:47to
- 42:47do
- 42:47this,
- 42:47so
- 42:48let's
- 42:48just
- 42:48get
- 42:48her
- 42:48done.
- 42:49Yeah.
- 42:50The
- 42:50second
- 42:50one
- 42:50is,
- 42:51I
- 42:51want,
- 42:51when
- 42:51you
- 42:51turn
- 42:52a
- 42:52cooktop
- 42:52on
- 42:53in
- 42:53the
- 42:53kitchen,
- 42:54I
- 42:54want
- 42:54it
- 42:54to
- 42:54automatically
- 42:55turn
- 42:55on
- 42:56the
- 42:56vent
- 42:56fan
- 42:57to
- 42:57the
- 42:57setting
- 42:58of
- 42:58the
- 42:58cooktop
- 42:59down
- 42:59below.
- 42:59Mm
- 43:00hmm.
- 43:01So
- 43:03you're
- 43:03speaking
- 43:03my
- 43:04language,
- 43:04Eric,
- 43:04because
- 43:05people
- 43:05always
- 43:05ask
- 43:05me
- 43:06about
- 43:06the
- 43:06differences,
- 43:06that
- 43:06we
- 43:07can
- 43:07talk
- 43:07about
- 43:07this
- 43:08between
- 43:08gas
- 43:08and
- 43:08electric
- 43:09cooktops,
- 43:09but
- 43:10I
- 43:10tell
- 43:10them
- 43:10that
- 43:11no
- 43:11matter
- 43:12what
- 43:12you
- 43:12end
- 43:12up
- 43:12doing,
- 43:13the
- 43:13process
- 43:13should
- 43:13be,
- 43:14when
- 43:14you
- 43:14go
- 43:14walk
- 43:15into
- 43:15the
- 43:15kitchen
- 43:15to
- 43:15start
- 43:15preparing
- 43:16a
- 43:16meal,
- 43:16the
- 43:17first
- 43:17thing
- 43:17you
- 43:17do
- 43:17is
- 43:17turn
- 43:18on
- 43:18the
- 43:18range
- 43:18hood.
- 43:19Then
- 43:19you
- 43:19start
- 43:19mixing
- 43:20your
- 43:20ingredients.
- 43:20Then
- 43:21you
- 43:21turn
- 43:21on
- 43:21the
- 43:22range
- 43:22because
- 43:23you
- 43:23have
- 43:23to
- 43:23start
- 43:23creating
- 43:24this
- 43:24current.
- 43:24Yeah.
- 43:25If
- 43:25you
- 43:25only
- 43:25turn
- 43:26it
- 43:26on
- 43:26because
- 43:26you
- 43:26smell
- 43:27or
- 43:27see
- 43:27smoke,
- 43:28it's
- 43:28too
- 43:28late.
- 43:28Too
- 43:29late.
- 43:29And
- 43:29then
- 43:29the
- 43:29other
- 43:30thing.
- 43:30I've
- 43:30said
- 43:30this,
- 43:30and
- 43:31I've
- 43:31said
- 43:31this
- 43:31to
- 43:31now
- 43:32four
- 43:33different
- 43:33appliance
- 43:33manufacturers.
- 43:35I
- 43:35said,
- 43:35you
- 43:35got
- 43:35all
- 43:35the
- 43:35smart
- 43:36stuff.
- 43:36Why
- 43:37don't
- 43:37you
- 43:37have
- 43:37a
- 43:37temperature
- 43:38sensor
- 43:38that's
- 43:39in
- 43:39the
- 43:39hood
- 43:40that
- 43:40automatically
- 43:40turns
- 43:41off
- 43:41the
- 43:41cooktop
- 43:41when
- 43:41it
- 43:42gets
- 43:42too
- 43:42high?
- 43:42How
- 43:43hard
- 43:43is
- 43:43that?
- 43:43Oh,
- 43:44that's
- 43:44a
- 43:44smart
- 43:44one.
- 43:45I
- 43:45love
- 43:45that.
- 43:46Right.
- 43:46And
- 43:47it's
- 43:47so
- 43:47simple.
- 43:48It's
- 43:48so
- 43:48simple.
- 43:48Like,
- 43:49this
- 43:49is
- 43:49like
- 43:5020
- 43:50years
- 43:50ago,
- 43:50I
- 43:50was
- 43:51trying
- 43:51to
- 43:51convince
- 43:52H
- 43:52vac
- 43:52contractors
- 43:53to
- 43:53tie
- 43:54in
- 43:54with
- 43:55the
- 43:55ERV,
- 43:56tie
- 43:56in
- 43:57the
- 43:57range
- 43:57hood,
- 43:57the
- 43:58bathroom
- 43:58fans,
- 43:59and
- 43:59even
- 43:59windows.
- 44:00You
- 44:00can
- 44:00put
- 44:01sensors
- 44:01on
- 44:01the
- 44:01windows.
- 44:02If
- 44:02any
- 44:02of
- 44:02that
- 44:02triggers
- 44:03the
- 44:03ERV,
- 44:04then
- 44:04makes
- 44:05up
- 44:05the
- 44:05air
- 44:05properly.
- 44:06Yeah.
- 44:06It's
- 44:06very
- 44:07simple
- 44:07to
- 44:07do.
- 44:07But
- 44:07it's
- 44:07like,
- 44:08people
- 44:08look
- 44:08at
- 44:08me
- 44:08like
- 44:08I
- 44:09have
- 44:09three
- 44:09heads.
- 44:09Yeah.
- 44:10Yeah.
- 44:10I've
- 44:10said
- 44:11this
- 44:11to
- 44:11some
- 44:11major
- 44:12companies,
- 44:12and
- 44:12they
- 44:13look
- 44:13at
- 44:13me
- 44:13like,
- 44:13oh,
- 44:14that's
- 44:14interesting.
- 44:14I'm
- 44:14like,
- 44:15but
- 44:15you're
- 44:15going
- 44:15to,
- 44:16you're
- 44:16going
- 44:16to
- 44:16put
- 44:16out
- 44:16on
- 44:16the
- 44:16market
- 44:17a
- 44:17rice
- 44:18cooker
- 44:18that
- 44:18gives
- 44:18me
- 44:18tomorrow's
- 44:19weather.
- 44:19But
- 44:19you
- 44:19can
- 44:19do
- 44:20this.
- 44:20I
- 44:20don't
- 44:20care.
- 44:21Yeah,
- 44:21it's
- 44:21just,
- 44:21it's.
- 44:21That's
- 44:22the
- 44:22crazy
- 44:22stuff.
- 44:23And
- 44:23it's
- 44:23so
- 44:23simple
- 44:24to
- 44:24do.
- 44:24And
- 44:25hopefully
- 44:25we'll
- 44:25get
- 44:26there
- 44:26and
- 44:26you
- 44:26guys
- 44:27out
- 44:27there
- 44:27listening,
- 44:27I'm
- 44:28talking
- 44:28about
- 44:28you
- 44:28that
- 44:28I've
- 44:28been
- 44:29talking
- 44:29about.
- 44:29Yes.
- 44:30Please
- 44:31listen
- 44:31to
- 44:31this
- 44:31show.
- 44:31And
- 44:32make
- 44:32these
- 44:32changes.
- 44:33It's
- 44:34so
- 44:34simple.
- 44:34It's
- 44:35so
- 44:35simple.
- 44:35And
- 44:36the
- 44:36other
- 44:36thing
- 44:36I
- 44:37want
- 44:37to
- 44:37talk,
- 44:37before
- 44:37we
- 44:37get
- 44:37into
- 44:38whiskey,
- 44:38talk
- 44:38here
- 44:38for
- 44:39a
- 44:39minute,
- 44:39is
- 44:39I
- 44:39want
- 44:39to
- 44:39talk
- 44:39about
- 44:40just.
- 44:40We
- 44:40didn't
- 44:41touch
- 44:41on
- 44:41it,
- 44:41but
- 44:41just
- 44:42measuring
- 44:42your
- 44:43humidity
- 44:43in
- 44:43your
- 44:43home
- 44:44and
- 44:44making
- 44:44sure
- 44:44that
- 44:45you've
- 44:45got
- 44:45that
- 44:45under
- 44:45control,
- 44:46that
- 44:46can
- 44:47be
- 44:47one
- 44:47of
- 44:47the
- 44:47biggest
- 44:47problems,
- 44:48even
- 44:48if
- 44:48you've
- 44:48got
- 44:49healthy
- 44:49materials
- 44:50inside.
- 44:51Yeah,
- 44:51boy,
- 44:52that's.
- 44:52That's
- 44:52definitely
- 44:53something
- 44:54that
- 44:54we
- 44:55preach.
- 44:55Raising
- 44:56the
- 44:56humidity
- 44:57in
- 44:57a
- 44:57house
- 44:58not
- 44:58only
- 44:58causes
- 44:59us
- 44:59to
- 44:59be
- 44:59in
- 44:59a
- 45:00situation
- 45:00where
- 45:00mold
- 45:00growth
- 45:01is
- 45:01going
- 45:01to
- 45:01be
- 45:01more
- 45:01prevalent,
- 45:02anything
- 45:02above
- 45:0350%
- 45:03to
- 45:0355%,
- 45:04but
- 45:05we've
- 45:05also
- 45:05found
- 45:05that
- 45:06it
- 45:07drastically
- 45:07increases
- 45:08the
- 45:08amount
- 45:08of
- 45:09chemical
- 45:09off
- 45:09gas.
- 45:10So
- 45:10when
- 45:11moisture
- 45:11enters
- 45:12into
- 45:12a
- 45:12surface
- 45:13and
- 45:13then
- 45:13eventually
- 45:13evaporates
- 45:14back
- 45:14out,
- 45:14it's
- 45:14going
- 45:15to
- 45:15carry
- 45:15with
- 45:15it
- 45:15the
- 45:15chemical
- 45:16footprint
- 45:16of
- 45:16where
- 45:16it
- 45:16was.
- 45:17So
- 45:18we
- 45:18have
- 45:18tested
- 45:18numerous
- 45:19homes
- 45:19over
- 45:19the
- 45:19years
- 45:19where
- 45:20people
- 45:20complain
- 45:21of
- 45:21high
- 45:21vocs
- 45:22or
- 45:22high
- 45:22formaldehyde.
- 45:23And
- 45:24then
- 45:24we
- 45:24look
- 45:24at
- 45:24the,
- 45:24at
- 45:25the
- 45:25humidistat,
- 45:25we
- 45:26go,
- 45:26it's
- 45:2662%
- 45:27relative
- 45:27humidity
- 45:27in
- 45:28here.
- 45:28What
- 45:28I
- 45:28want
- 45:28you
- 45:29to
- 45:29do
- 45:29is
- 45:29close
- 45:29the
- 45:29windows.
- 45:30We
- 45:30talked
- 45:30about
- 45:30this
- 45:30before.
- 45:31If
- 45:31it's
- 45:31worse
- 45:31outside
- 45:31than
- 45:32inside,
- 45:32right.
- 45:32They
- 45:32have
- 45:33the
- 45:33windows
- 45:33open
- 45:33the
- 45:33middle
- 45:33of
- 45:33summer
- 45:34to
- 45:34try
- 45:34to
- 45:34get
- 45:34fresh
- 45:34air,
- 45:34but
- 45:35all
- 45:35the
- 45:35humidity
- 45:35is
- 45:35coming
- 45:35in.
- 45:36So
- 45:36close
- 45:37the
- 45:37windows,
- 45:37turn
- 45:37on
- 45:37the
- 45:38air,
- 45:38turn
- 45:38on
- 45:39a
- 45:39de
- 45:39hue.
- 45:39I'm
- 45:40going
- 45:40to
- 45:40come
- 45:40back
- 45:40in
- 45:40two
- 45:40weeks.
- 45:40I'm
- 45:41going
- 45:41to
- 45:41test
- 45:41the
- 45:41home
- 45:41again.
- 45:41I'm
- 45:42going
- 45:42to
- 45:42test
- 45:42the
- 45:42specific
- 45:43surfaces
- 45:43again.
- 45:44We've
- 45:44done
- 45:44this,
- 45:45and
- 45:45every
- 45:45single
- 45:45time,
- 45:46all
- 45:46that
- 45:46off
- 45:47gassing
- 45:47goes
- 45:47down
- 45:48more
- 45:48than
- 45:4850%.
- 45:49So
- 45:49this
- 45:50makes
- 45:50an
- 45:50enormous
- 45:50difference
- 45:51in
- 45:51your
- 45:51indoor
- 45:51air
- 45:51quality.
- 45:52And,
- 45:52guys,
- 45:53don't
- 45:53go
- 45:54try
- 45:54to
- 45:54deal
- 45:54with
- 45:54your
- 45:55basement
- 45:55humidity
- 45:56issue,
- 45:56please.
- 45:57With
- 45:57a
- 45:57little
- 45:58target
- 45:59dehumidifier,
- 46:00please
- 46:00don't
- 46:00just
- 46:01go
- 46:01get.
- 46:02I
- 46:02don't
- 46:02care
- 46:02if
- 46:03it's
- 46:03one
- 46:03of
- 46:04the
- 46:04main
- 46:04brands,
- 46:04there's
- 46:05no
- 46:05commercial
- 46:05here
- 46:05for
- 46:06this,
- 46:06but
- 46:07get
- 46:07a
- 46:07built
- 46:07in
- 46:07unit
- 46:08that
- 46:08actually
- 46:08has
- 46:09a
- 46:09drain
- 46:09line
- 46:10that
- 46:10goes
- 46:10where
- 46:10it's
- 46:11supposed
- 46:11to
- 46:11go
- 46:11to
- 46:12meet
- 46:12code
- 46:12in
- 46:12your
- 46:12area,
- 46:13and
- 46:14get
- 46:14the
- 46:14humidity
- 46:15out
- 46:15of
- 46:15the
- 46:15space,
- 46:16and
- 46:16it'll
- 46:17save
- 46:17you
- 46:17money
- 46:17in
- 46:17the
- 46:18long
- 46:18run,
- 46:18because
- 46:18you're
- 46:18not
- 46:18going
- 46:18to
- 46:18have
- 46:18to
- 46:19go
- 46:19buy
- 46:19six
- 46:19of
- 46:19those
- 46:19things
- 46:20and
- 46:20you'll
- 46:21be
- 46:21throwing
- 46:21them
- 46:21away.
- 46:21Every
- 46:21two
- 46:22years,
- 46:22100%.
- 46:23And
- 46:23if
- 46:23you.
- 46:23If
- 46:24you
- 46:24have
- 46:24it
- 46:24in
- 46:24a
- 46:24basement
- 46:24that
- 46:25was
- 46:25never
- 46:25designed
- 46:26to
- 46:26be
- 46:26a
- 46:26livable
- 46:26space,
- 46:27but
- 46:27you're
- 46:28trying
- 46:28to
- 46:28treat
- 46:28it
- 46:28as
- 46:28a.
- 46:28As
- 46:29a
- 46:29family
- 46:29room,
- 46:30understand
- 46:30that
- 46:30that
- 46:31basement
- 46:31is
- 46:31probably
- 46:31not
- 46:32waterproof
- 46:32the
- 46:32same
- 46:33way
- 46:33that
- 46:33a
- 46:33new
- 46:33home
- 46:34would
- 46:34be
- 46:34knowing
- 46:35that
- 46:35it's
- 46:35a
- 46:35livable
- 46:35space.
- 46:36So
- 46:37you
- 46:37might
- 46:37be
- 46:37fighting
- 46:38Mother
- 46:38Nature
- 46:38throughout
- 46:39those
- 46:39humid
- 46:39months,
- 46:40but
- 46:40it
- 46:41is
- 46:41what
- 46:41it
- 46:41is.
- 46:41You
- 46:41just
- 46:41got
- 46:41to
- 46:42deal
- 46:42with
- 46:42it.
- 46:43Yeah.
- 46:43Look
- 46:43at
- 46:43the
- 46:44older
- 46:44homes
- 46:44that
- 46:44we
- 46:44see
- 46:45in
- 46:45certain
- 46:45parts
- 46:45of
- 46:45the
- 46:46area
- 46:46in
- 46:46the
- 46:47twenties,
- 46:47thirties,
- 46:48and
- 46:48up
- 46:48to
- 46:48early
- 46:48forties,
- 46:49where
- 46:50there
- 46:50were
- 46:51significant
- 46:51concrete
- 46:52problems
- 46:53that
- 46:53maybe
- 46:54they
- 46:54weren't
- 46:54washing
- 46:54the
- 46:55sand,
- 46:55or
- 46:56there
- 46:56was
- 46:56just
- 46:56these
- 46:57mixture
- 46:57problems
- 46:57that
- 46:57they
- 46:58had.
- 46:58Where
- 46:59I
- 46:59can
- 46:59go
- 46:59into
- 46:59Portland
- 47:00here,
- 47:00and
- 47:01I
- 47:01can
- 47:01take
- 47:02the
- 47:02key
- 47:02from
- 47:03my
- 47:03vehicle
- 47:04and
- 47:04lightly
- 47:05scratch
- 47:05and
- 47:05not
- 47:06hurt
- 47:06the
- 47:06brass
- 47:06key,
- 47:07but
- 47:07scratch
- 47:08through
- 47:08and
- 47:08literally
- 47:08go
- 47:09through
- 47:09the
- 47:09entire
- 47:09foundation
- 47:10because
- 47:11enough
- 47:11moisture
- 47:12has
- 47:12come
- 47:12through
- 47:13that
- 47:13has
- 47:13taken
- 47:14just
- 47:15enough
- 47:15lime
- 47:15out
- 47:15of
- 47:16the
- 47:16mix.
- 47:16Right.
- 47:16And
- 47:16calcium
- 47:17and
- 47:17everything
- 47:17else
- 47:18that
- 47:18you
- 47:18have
- 47:19literally
- 47:19compacted
- 47:20sand.
- 47:20Evan.
- 47:21Wow.
- 47:21That's
- 47:21amazing.
- 47:22Yeah.
- 47:23And
- 47:23so
- 47:24the.
- 47:24The.
- 47:25That
- 47:25thing,
- 47:25they
- 47:26don't
- 47:26build
- 47:26them
- 47:26like
- 47:27they
- 47:27used
- 47:27to.
- 47:27Doesn't
- 47:28always
- 47:28apply
- 47:29in
- 47:29that
- 47:29situation.
- 47:30But
- 47:30that
- 47:31is
- 47:31true.
- 47:31That
- 47:31is
- 47:32true.
- 47:32All
- 47:32right,
- 47:32man,
- 47:33we
- 47:33got
- 47:33to
- 47:33talk
- 47:33whiskey
- 47:33here
- 47:33real
- 47:34quick,
- 47:34because.
- 47:34And
- 47:34then
- 47:35we're
- 47:35going
- 47:35to
- 47:35talk
- 47:35about
- 47:36how
- 47:36to
- 47:36find
- 47:36you
- 47:36and
- 47:36all
- 47:37that
- 47:37stuff.
- 47:37But
- 47:37let's
- 47:38talk
- 47:38about
- 47:38your
- 47:38whiskey
- 47:38career
- 47:39here,
- 47:39because
- 47:39you
- 47:39have
- 47:40some
- 47:40other
- 47:40massive
- 47:41gifts
- 47:41here
- 47:41besides
- 47:42healthy
- 47:42homes.
- 47:43Ive
- 47:43always
- 47:43been
- 47:44somebody
- 47:44who
- 47:44loves
- 47:44to
- 47:45research,
- 47:45and
- 47:45I
- 47:46love
- 47:46learning
- 47:46new
- 47:46things.
- 47:47And
- 47:47many
- 47:48years
- 47:48ago,
- 47:48I
- 47:48had
- 47:48a
- 47:49friend
- 47:49of
- 47:49mine
- 47:49who
- 47:50got
- 47:50me
- 47:50into
- 47:50scotch
- 47:51whiskey,
- 47:52and
- 47:52I
- 47:52always
- 47:53liked
- 47:53it,
- 47:53but
- 47:53I
- 47:53didnt
- 47:54really
- 47:54know
- 47:54much
- 47:54about
- 47:54it,
- 47:54and
- 47:54I
- 47:55started
- 47:55learning
- 47:56about
- 47:56it,
- 47:56and
- 47:56I
- 47:57just
- 47:57went
- 47:57head
- 47:58first.
- 47:58When
- 47:59I
- 47:59do
- 47:59something,
- 47:59I
- 48:00guess
- 48:00I
- 48:00dont
- 48:00do
- 48:00it
- 48:00just.
- 48:01But
- 48:02I
- 48:02really
- 48:02dug
- 48:02deep.
- 48:03I
- 48:03ended
- 48:03up
- 48:04traveling
- 48:04to
- 48:04Scotland,
- 48:05became
- 48:05a
- 48:05certified
- 48:06scotch
- 48:06whiskey.
- 48:06I
- 48:07spent
- 48:07time
- 48:07in
- 48:07Kentucky,
- 48:08became
- 48:08a
- 48:09bourbon
- 48:09executive
- 48:09steward.
- 48:10I
- 48:10really
- 48:11love
- 48:12it's
- 48:12chemistry
- 48:12to
- 48:12me,
- 48:13it's.
- 48:13And
- 48:13it
- 48:14just
- 48:14so
- 48:14happens
- 48:15it's
- 48:15something
- 48:15that
- 48:16I
- 48:16enjoy
- 48:16to.
- 48:17To
- 48:17consume
- 48:18and
- 48:19to
- 48:19taste.
- 48:20And
- 48:20so
- 48:21I
- 48:21actually
- 48:21spent
- 48:21a
- 48:21lot
- 48:21of
- 48:22my
- 48:22free
- 48:22time
- 48:23when
- 48:23I'm
- 48:23not
- 48:23healthy,
- 48:24helping
- 48:24people
- 48:24with
- 48:24healthy
- 48:25homes,
- 48:25conducting
- 48:26whiskey
- 48:27tasting
- 48:27events,
- 48:28and
- 48:28teaching
- 48:29people
- 48:29all
- 48:29the
- 48:29fine
- 48:30points
- 48:30of
- 48:30whiskey.
- 48:31So
- 48:31it's
- 48:32been
- 48:32a
- 48:32lot
- 48:32of
- 48:32fun.
- 48:33This
- 48:33is
- 48:33what
- 48:33I
- 48:33just
- 48:34did.
- 48:34I
- 48:34did
- 48:34a
- 48:35tasting
- 48:35event
- 48:35just
- 48:35a
- 48:35couple
- 48:36of
- 48:36weeks
- 48:36ago.
- 48:36Okay.
- 48:37For
- 48:37a
- 48:37good
- 48:38customer
- 48:38of
- 48:38mine
- 48:38who
- 48:39has
- 48:39hired
- 48:39me
- 48:39several
- 48:40times
- 48:40for
- 48:40parties,
- 48:41this
- 48:41time
- 48:42I
- 48:42did
- 48:42anything
- 48:42aged
- 48:43in
- 48:43oak.
- 48:44Oh,
- 48:45we
- 48:45did
- 48:46scotch,
- 48:47bourbon,
- 48:48rum,
- 48:49armagnac,
- 48:50and
- 48:50then
- 48:50port
- 48:50wine.
- 48:51Oh.
- 48:52And
- 48:52it
- 48:53was
- 48:53phenomenal.
- 48:54I
- 48:54was
- 48:55a
- 48:55little
- 48:55afraid
- 48:55about
- 48:56all
- 48:56these
- 48:56different
- 48:56flavor
- 48:56profiles,
- 48:57but
- 48:57the
- 48:57fact
- 48:57is
- 48:58that
- 48:58every
- 48:58one
- 48:58of
- 48:58them
- 48:59tastes
- 48:59like
- 48:59they've
- 48:59been
- 48:59in
- 48:59oak
- 49:00because
- 49:00they
- 49:00have,
- 49:01and
- 49:01everybody
- 49:02there
- 49:03absolutely
- 49:03enjoyed
- 49:04it.
- 49:04Oh,
- 49:05that
- 49:05is
- 49:06amazing.
- 49:06That
- 49:07is
- 49:07amazing.
- 49:07That
- 49:08is
- 49:08cool.
- 49:08Hadn't
- 49:08thought
- 49:09about
- 49:09that,
- 49:09but,
- 49:09yeah,
- 49:10because
- 49:10that
- 49:10oak
- 49:11gives
- 49:11you
- 49:11that
- 49:11commonality
- 49:12between
- 49:13all
- 49:13those.
- 49:14Exactly
- 49:14right.
- 49:14And
- 49:15we
- 49:15even
- 49:15did
- 49:15a
- 49:1635
- 49:16year
- 49:17old
- 49:17balsamic
- 49:18vinegar
- 49:18be.
- 49:19And
- 49:19as
- 49:19a
- 49:20in
- 49:20between
- 49:20palate
- 49:21cleanser
- 49:21after
- 49:21the
- 49:22rum.
- 49:22Because
- 49:22the
- 49:22rum,
- 49:23folks,
- 49:23it
- 49:23was
- 49:24good.
- 49:24But
- 49:24it
- 49:24really.
- 49:28Something
- 49:29here
- 49:29to
- 49:29just
- 49:29to
- 49:29try
- 49:29to
- 49:30change
- 49:30something.
- 49:31Yes.
- 49:31Yeah.
- 49:32And
- 49:32I
- 49:32had
- 49:32a
- 49:32lot
- 49:33of
- 49:33people
- 49:33in
- 49:33the
- 49:33group
- 49:34who
- 49:34weren't
- 49:34necessarily
- 49:35whiskey
- 49:36drinkers,
- 49:36and
- 49:37so
- 49:37when
- 49:37I
- 49:37brought
- 49:37out
- 49:37the
- 49:37balsamic
- 49:38vinegar,
- 49:38they're
- 49:38like,
- 49:38yeah,
- 49:39finally
- 49:39something.
- 49:40But
- 49:4035
- 49:41years
- 49:41in
- 49:41oak,
- 49:42and
- 49:43again,
- 49:43you
- 49:44definitely
- 49:44taste
- 49:44the
- 49:44yolk.
- 49:45You
- 49:45taste
- 49:45those
- 49:45tannins,
- 49:46the,
- 49:46the
- 49:47vanilla,
- 49:47the
- 49:47cinnamon,
- 49:48the,
- 49:49that
- 49:49that
- 49:49particular
- 49:50profile
- 49:50from
- 49:51oak,
- 49:51it's
- 49:52just
- 49:52amazing
- 49:52how
- 49:52they
- 49:53all
- 49:53work
- 49:53together.
- 49:54Oh,
- 49:54that
- 49:54is
- 49:55wonderful.
- 49:55Yeah,
- 49:56that's,
- 49:56that's,
- 49:56that's
- 49:57so
- 49:57smart.
- 49:58And
- 49:58I
- 49:58like
- 49:58that.
- 49:59It's
- 49:59like,
- 49:59wait
- 49:59a
- 49:59minute.
- 50:00Now
- 50:00you
- 50:00got
- 50:00me
- 50:00thinking
- 50:01on
- 50:01that.
- 50:01So
- 50:01what's
- 50:02your
- 50:02favorite,
- 50:02and,
- 50:03uh,
- 50:03let's
- 50:03say,
- 50:03what's.
- 50:04What's
- 50:04your
- 50:04favorite
- 50:04thing
- 50:05that
- 50:05you're
- 50:05tasting
- 50:05right
- 50:05now
- 50:06out
- 50:06there,
- 50:07whether
- 50:07it's
- 50:07scotch
- 50:07whiskey
- 50:08or
- 50:08whatever?
- 50:08So,
- 50:09actually,
- 50:09my
- 50:10favorite
- 50:10right
- 50:10now
- 50:10is
- 50:11because
- 50:11of
- 50:11this
- 50:12tasting
- 50:12event,
- 50:12I
- 50:12had
- 50:12to
- 50:13do
- 50:13a
- 50:13lot
- 50:13of
- 50:13research.
- 50:13I'm
- 50:14using
- 50:14the
- 50:14air
- 50:14quotes
- 50:15right
- 50:15now.
- 50:15Research,
- 50:16which
- 50:16is
- 50:16basically
- 50:17research
- 50:17this
- 50:18afternoon.
- 50:18So
- 50:18sit
- 50:19at
- 50:19home
- 50:19with
- 50:19my,
- 50:19like,
- 50:20Glen
- 50:20Caron
- 50:20glass
- 50:21and,
- 50:21uh,
- 50:21fill
- 50:21it
- 50:21up
- 50:21a
- 50:21few
- 50:22times.
- 50:22So,
- 50:23Armagnac,
- 50:24which
- 50:24is
- 50:24cognac,
- 50:26it's
- 50:26essentially
- 50:27brandy
- 50:27from
- 50:27a
- 50:28very
- 50:28specific
- 50:28region
- 50:28in
- 50:29France.
- 50:29I
- 50:29have
- 50:30fallen
- 50:30in
- 50:30love
- 50:30with
- 50:31armagnacs,
- 50:31because,
- 50:32again,
- 50:32if
- 50:33you
- 50:33love
- 50:34the
- 50:34big,
- 50:34bold
- 50:35flavors
- 50:35of
- 50:36wood
- 50:36in
- 50:37a
- 50:37spirit,
- 50:38most
- 50:38armagnacs
- 50:39are
- 50:39going
- 50:39to
- 50:39be
- 50:3920,
- 50:4030,
- 50:4040
- 50:40years
- 50:40old.
- 50:41Even
- 50:42though
- 50:42it's
- 50:42made
- 50:42from
- 50:43distilled
- 50:44wine,
- 50:44essentially,
- 50:45because
- 50:46it's
- 50:47in
- 50:47oak
- 50:47for
- 50:47so
- 50:48long,
- 50:48it
- 50:48starts
- 50:48to
- 50:49impart
- 50:49this
- 50:50flavor
- 50:50of
- 50:50a
- 50:51highly
- 50:52sherried
- 50:52scotch
- 50:53whiskey.
- 50:53So,
- 50:53if
- 50:53you
- 50:53like
- 50:54McCallan,
- 50:55for
- 50:55instance,
- 50:56which
- 50:56I
- 50:56love.
- 50:57If
- 50:57you
- 50:57love
- 50:57McAllen,
- 50:58you
- 50:58will
- 50:58absolutely
- 50:59love
- 50:59armagnacs.
- 51:00Oh,
- 51:01yeah.
- 51:01Okay.
- 51:03I'm
- 51:03gold
- 51:03on
- 51:03those
- 51:04right
- 51:04now.
- 51:04It
- 51:05was
- 51:05so
- 51:05funny.
- 51:05So
- 51:06a
- 51:06couple
- 51:06of
- 51:06cognac
- 51:07stories
- 51:07real
- 51:07quick.
- 51:07First
- 51:08time
- 51:08I
- 51:08really
- 51:08got
- 51:09to
- 51:09sit
- 51:09down
- 51:09and
- 51:09pay
- 51:09attention
- 51:10to
- 51:10cognac.
- 51:11I
- 51:11was
- 51:11in
- 51:11Chicago
- 51:12for
- 51:12one
- 51:12of
- 51:12the
- 51:12builder
- 51:13shows
- 51:13when
- 51:13they
- 51:13did
- 51:13the
- 51:14builder
- 51:14shows
- 51:14in
- 51:15Chicago
- 51:15back
- 51:15then.
- 51:16And
- 51:16we
- 51:16went
- 51:17over
- 51:17to
- 51:17buddy
- 51:17guys,
- 51:17blues
- 51:18legends
- 51:19placed
- 51:19in
- 51:19there.
- 51:20Ended
- 51:20up
- 51:20sitting
- 51:21in
- 51:21there
- 51:21on
- 51:21a
- 51:21Wednesday
- 51:22after
- 51:22our
- 51:22dinners
- 51:22with
- 51:22a
- 51:23buddy.
- 51:23Ended
- 51:24up
- 51:24sharing
- 51:24the
- 51:24table
- 51:25with
- 51:25Buddy
- 51:25guy.
- 51:26Wow.
- 51:27And
- 51:27he
- 51:28was
- 51:28buying
- 51:28Cognac
- 51:29all
- 51:29night.
- 51:29And
- 51:29when
- 51:30buddy
- 51:30guy
- 51:31hands
- 51:31you
- 51:31a
- 51:31glass
- 51:31of
- 51:31cognac,
- 51:32you
- 51:33say,
- 51:33thank
- 51:33you,
- 51:33buddy.
- 51:34Or
- 51:34Mister
- 51:34Guy.
- 51:35And
- 51:35you
- 51:35drink
- 51:36it.
- 51:36And
- 51:36I'm
- 51:36like,
- 51:37yes.
- 51:37Oh,
- 51:38this
- 51:38is
- 51:38pretty
- 51:38good.
- 51:39This
- 51:39is
- 51:39not
- 51:40bad,
- 51:40right?
- 51:41Also,
- 51:41having
- 51:41a
- 51:41rock
- 51:42and
- 51:42roll
- 51:42hall
- 51:42of
- 51:42Fame
- 51:43guitar
- 51:43player
- 51:43sitting
- 51:43next
- 51:43to
- 51:44you
- 51:44handing
- 51:44you
- 51:44drinks,
- 51:45also
- 51:45a
- 51:46nice
- 51:46thing.
- 51:47But
- 51:47I
- 51:47was
- 51:48like,
- 51:48oh,
- 51:48okay.
- 51:49And
- 51:49then
- 51:50I
- 51:50was.
- 51:50This
- 51:51was
- 51:51about
- 51:51nine
- 51:52years
- 51:52ago.
- 51:52I
- 51:52was
- 51:52up
- 51:53in
- 51:53Vancouver,
- 51:53BC,
- 51:54visiting
- 51:54a
- 51:54flooring
- 51:55company
- 51:55up
- 51:55there.
- 51:56They
- 51:56were
- 51:56giving
- 51:56me
- 51:56an
- 51:57architectural
- 51:57tour.
- 51:57We
- 51:58were
- 51:58doing
- 51:58some
- 51:58stuff
- 51:58with
- 51:58them
- 51:58up
- 51:59there,
- 51:59which
- 51:59is
- 51:59totally
- 51:59fun.
- 52:00And
- 52:01what
- 52:02was
- 52:02that?
- 52:03It
- 52:03was
- 52:03the
- 52:04rare
- 52:04cast
- 52:04cognac.
- 52:05Is
- 52:05that
- 52:05the
- 52:05Louis
- 52:06XIII?
- 52:07Oh,
- 52:07yeah,
- 52:07yep.
- 52:08And
- 52:08the
- 52:08rare
- 52:08cask
- 52:09with
- 52:09the
- 52:09whole.
- 52:10That
- 52:11hold
- 52:11that
- 52:11crystal
- 52:12vase
- 52:12and
- 52:13the.
- 52:13Wood
- 52:13box
- 52:13and
- 52:14all
- 52:14that.
- 52:14And
- 52:14I'm
- 52:15sitting
- 52:15at
- 52:15the
- 52:15bar
- 52:15waiting
- 52:16for
- 52:16restaurant
- 52:16reservations.
- 52:17Cause
- 52:17there
- 52:17was
- 52:17a
- 52:17bunch
- 52:18of
- 52:18us,
- 52:18and
- 52:19this
- 52:19guy
- 52:19gets
- 52:19up
- 52:19on
- 52:20the
- 52:20ladder
- 52:20with
- 52:21white
- 52:21gloves
- 52:22and
- 52:22pulls
- 52:22two
- 52:22crystal
- 52:23glasses
- 52:23down
- 52:24and
- 52:24starts
- 52:25flaming
- 52:26the
- 52:26glass
- 52:26with
- 52:26a
- 52:27match.
- 52:27And
- 52:27I'm
- 52:27like,
- 52:28hey,
- 52:28we're
- 52:28on
- 52:28something
- 52:29here
- 52:29that
- 52:29I've
- 52:30not
- 52:30seen
- 52:30before.
- 52:31So.
- 52:31But
- 52:32I
- 52:32had
- 52:32to
- 52:32ask
- 52:32the
- 52:32bartender,
- 52:33I'm
- 52:33like,
- 52:33what
- 52:33do
- 52:33you
- 52:33got
- 52:33going?
- 52:33He
- 52:33goes,
- 52:34oh,
- 52:34I'm
- 52:34pulling
- 52:35this
- 52:35out,
- 52:35and
- 52:35I
- 52:36google
- 52:36it
- 52:36up,
- 52:36and
- 52:36I'm
- 52:36like,
- 52:37oh,
- 52:38that's
- 52:38a
- 52:38$50,000
- 52:40bottle
- 52:40back
- 52:40then.
- 52:41Yeah,
- 52:41it's
- 52:41quite
- 52:42amazing.
- 52:42Am
- 52:42I
- 52:42going
- 52:42to
- 52:43spend
- 52:43money
- 52:43on
- 52:43that?
- 52:43But
- 52:43it
- 52:44was
- 52:44cool
- 52:44to
- 52:44see
- 52:44him
- 52:44serving
- 52:45up
- 52:45to
- 52:45two
- 52:46glasses
- 52:47for
- 52:47a
- 52:47guy.
- 52:47Yeah,
- 52:47sure.
- 52:48When
- 52:48I
- 52:48win
- 52:48the
- 52:48lottery,
- 52:49I
- 52:50might
- 52:50try
- 52:50that.
- 52:51Yeah.
- 52:51And
- 52:51I'll
- 52:52probably
- 52:52find
- 52:52out
- 52:52that
- 52:52it's
- 52:53probably
- 52:53just
- 52:53as
- 52:53good
- 52:53as
- 52:54the
- 52:54$100
- 52:55bottle
- 52:55that
- 52:55I
- 52:55just
- 52:55had.
- 52:56It's
- 52:56the
- 52:57experience.
- 52:57It's
- 52:57the
- 52:58fact
- 52:58that
- 52:58you
- 52:58can
- 52:58live
- 52:59the
- 52:59rest
- 52:59of
- 52:59your
- 52:59life
- 52:59going,
- 52:59I
- 53:00had
- 53:00a
- 53:00$50,000
- 53:01cognac.
- 53:02Yeah.
- 53:03And
- 53:03I
- 53:03can
- 53:03say,
- 53:04and
- 53:05I'm
- 53:05not
- 53:05bragging
- 53:05here,
- 53:06but
- 53:06I've
- 53:06had
- 53:07a
- 53:07$40,000
- 53:08scotch
- 53:08whiskey
- 53:09that
- 53:09I
- 53:10got
- 53:10to
- 53:10try
- 53:10at
- 53:11the
- 53:11Belveni
- 53:11when
- 53:11I
- 53:12was
- 53:12there
- 53:12many
- 53:12years
- 53:13ago.
- 53:13And
- 53:14it
- 53:15is
- 53:15remarkable.
- 53:15Absolutely
- 53:16remarkable.
- 53:17If
- 53:17I
- 53:17didn't
- 53:18have
- 53:18a
- 53:18hookup,
- 53:19I
- 53:19probably
- 53:20wouldn't
- 53:20have
- 53:20tried
- 53:21it.
- 53:21Sure.
- 53:22No,
- 53:22because
- 53:23I
- 53:23can't
- 53:23afford
- 53:23it.
- 53:24But
- 53:24it
- 53:24was
- 53:24a
- 53:25special
- 53:25thing,
- 53:25and
- 53:25I
- 53:25was
- 53:26able
- 53:26to
- 53:26try
- 53:26it,
- 53:26and
- 53:27it
- 53:27is.
- 53:28I
- 53:28don't
- 53:28know,
- 53:28it's
- 53:28something
- 53:28about.
- 53:29It's
- 53:29like
- 53:29you
- 53:29said
- 53:29you
- 53:29were
- 53:30having
- 53:30a
- 53:30glass
- 53:30of
- 53:31cognac.
- 53:31Buddy
- 53:31guy,
- 53:32he
- 53:32probably
- 53:33could
- 53:33have
- 53:33given
- 53:34you
- 53:34a
- 53:34glass
- 53:35of
- 53:35ten
- 53:35w
- 53:3640.
- 53:36You
- 53:36would
- 53:36have
- 53:36loved
- 53:37it.
- 53:37Absolutely.
- 53:38So
- 53:39here
- 53:39I
- 53:39am
- 53:39at
- 53:40the
- 53:40belfeni
- 53:41with
- 53:41the
- 53:41distiller,
- 53:42the
- 53:43head
- 53:43distiller.
- 53:43I'm
- 53:43drinking
- 53:44a
- 53:44$40,000
- 53:45whiskey.
- 53:46Yeah,
- 53:46I
- 53:46felt
- 53:46pretty
- 53:47good
- 53:47about
- 53:47it,
- 53:47and
- 53:47it
- 53:47could
- 53:47have
- 53:47been
- 53:48anything,
- 53:48but
- 53:49it
- 53:49was
- 53:49tasty.
- 53:50Yeah.
- 53:50And
- 53:51to
- 53:51your
- 53:51point,
- 53:52he
- 53:52could
- 53:52have
- 53:52been
- 53:52handing
- 53:52me
- 53:52an
- 53:53old
- 53:53style
- 53:53beer
- 53:53and
- 53:53I'd
- 53:54have
- 53:54gone,
- 53:54sweet.
- 53:55This
- 53:55is
- 53:55great.
- 53:56Best
- 53:56beer
- 53:56I've
- 53:56ever
- 53:57had,
- 53:57ever.
- 53:57Adds.
- 53:58It's
- 53:58so
- 53:58much
- 53:59of
- 53:59that.
- 53:59As
- 53:59far
- 53:59as
- 54:00that
- 54:00goes.
- 54:00What
- 54:01are
- 54:01you
- 54:01liking
- 54:01in
- 54:01the.
- 54:02Just
- 54:02in
- 54:02the.
- 54:02In
- 54:02the
- 54:02whiskeys
- 54:03out?
- 54:03Is
- 54:03there
- 54:03a
- 54:03drinker
- 54:04that
- 54:04you're
- 54:04in
- 54:05right
- 54:05now
- 54:05that's
- 54:05just
- 54:05a
- 54:06regular,
- 54:07something
- 54:07like
- 54:08a
- 54:08guy
- 54:08like
- 54:08me
- 54:08would
- 54:09drink
- 54:09versus
- 54:10royalty.
- 54:10Yeah.
- 54:11So
- 54:11a
- 54:12couple
- 54:12things.
- 54:12So
- 54:13we
- 54:13have.
- 54:13We
- 54:13have
- 54:13a
- 54:14really
- 54:14good
- 54:14bourbon
- 54:15distillery
- 54:16here
- 54:16in
- 54:16Wisconsin
- 54:17called
- 54:17Jay
- 54:17Henry.
- 54:18Okay.
- 54:18Jay
- 54:19Henry,
- 54:19I
- 54:19believe,
- 54:19makes
- 54:20the
- 54:20absolute
- 54:20best
- 54:21in
- 54:21the
- 54:21midwest.
- 54:22I
- 54:22can't.
- 54:23I
- 54:23can't
- 54:23say
- 54:23of
- 54:24all
- 54:24of
- 54:24Indiana,
- 54:24because
- 54:24of
- 54:25MGP,
- 54:25that
- 54:25produces
- 54:2650%
- 54:27of
- 54:27the
- 54:27bourbon
- 54:27for
- 54:27the
- 54:27country.
- 54:28Yeah.
- 54:28But
- 54:29when
- 54:29it
- 54:29comes
- 54:29to
- 54:29craft
- 54:30distillation,
- 54:31they
- 54:31do
- 54:31it
- 54:31right,
- 54:31and
- 54:32they
- 54:32do
- 54:32it
- 54:32with
- 54:32this
- 54:33rare
- 54:34old
- 54:34red
- 54:35corn
- 54:36that
- 54:36they
- 54:36brought
- 54:36back
- 54:37for.
- 54:37For
- 54:37this.
- 54:38Their
- 54:38bourbon
- 54:39is
- 54:39something
- 54:39special.
- 54:40And
- 54:40I'm
- 54:40not
- 54:40necessarily.
- 54:41I'm
- 54:41not
- 54:41a
- 54:42bourbon
- 54:42drinker.
- 54:42If
- 54:43I'm
- 54:43going
- 54:43to
- 54:43sit
- 54:43down
- 54:43and
- 54:43have
- 54:43a
- 54:43whiskey,
- 54:44it's
- 54:44going
- 54:44to
- 54:44be
- 54:44a
- 54:44scotch.
- 54:45Yeah.
- 54:45I'm
- 54:45a
- 54:45bourbon
- 54:45guy
- 54:46more
- 54:46than
- 54:46I
- 54:46am
- 54:46a
- 54:46scotch
- 54:46guy,
- 54:47so
- 54:47I'm
- 54:47the
- 54:47opposite.
- 54:48Yep.
- 54:48So
- 54:49you're
- 54:49going
- 54:49to.
- 54:49You
- 54:49would
- 54:50love
- 54:50the
- 54:50Jay
- 54:50Henry.
- 54:51Okay.
- 54:51Absolutely.
- 54:52Fell
- 54:52in
- 54:52love
- 54:52with
- 54:53that
- 54:53a
- 54:53couple
- 54:53of
- 54:53years
- 54:53ago.
- 54:54They
- 54:54did
- 54:54a
- 54:54five
- 54:55year
- 54:55old
- 54:55cognac
- 54:56cask.
- 54:56Oh.
- 54:57And
- 54:57so
- 54:58I
- 54:58like
- 54:58the
- 54:58cognac
- 54:59cask
- 54:59whiskeys
- 54:59because
- 55:00that
- 55:00means
- 55:00they're
- 55:00using
- 55:01a
- 55:01type
- 55:01of
- 55:01wood
- 55:02called
- 55:03french
- 55:03limousine
- 55:04oak
- 55:04and.
- 55:05French
- 55:05limousine.
- 55:06Yep.
- 55:07And
- 55:07it
- 55:07imparts
- 55:08this
- 55:08really
- 55:09interesting
- 55:10creaminess
- 55:12to
- 55:12the
- 55:12spirit.
- 55:13Yeah.
- 55:13So
- 55:13I'm
- 55:14a
- 55:14sucker
- 55:14for
- 55:15anything
- 55:15aged
- 55:15in
- 55:16french
- 55:16oak.
- 55:16Yeah,
- 55:17absolutely.
- 55:18Yeah.
- 55:18That's
- 55:18good.
- 55:18That's
- 55:19good.
- 55:19There's
- 55:20that.
- 55:20There's
- 55:20a
- 55:20really
- 55:21cheap
- 55:21whiskey
- 55:21out
- 55:22there
- 55:22that's
- 55:22selling
- 55:22across
- 55:23the
- 55:23country
- 55:23that.
- 55:24That
- 55:24I'm
- 55:25laughing
- 55:25about
- 55:25because
- 55:25I
- 55:26know
- 55:26the
- 55:26history
- 55:26on
- 55:27it,
- 55:27and
- 55:27it's
- 55:27so
- 55:27funny
- 55:28and
- 55:28it's
- 55:28big
- 55:29out
- 55:29there.
- 55:29It's
- 55:30that
- 55:30redneck
- 55:31Riviera,
- 55:31the
- 55:32bigger
- 55:32stuff.
- 55:33Yep,
- 55:33yep.
- 55:34For
- 55:34the
- 55:34price
- 55:35point,
- 55:35I'd
- 55:35rather
- 55:35have
- 55:36that
- 55:36than
- 55:36old
- 55:36crow,
- 55:37in
- 55:37my
- 55:37opinion.
- 55:38I
- 55:38think
- 55:38it
- 55:38tastes
- 55:38better,
- 55:39but.
- 55:39And
- 55:39it's
- 55:39really
- 55:40inexpensive.
- 55:40But
- 55:41here's
- 55:41the
- 55:41funny
- 55:41story,
- 55:42is
- 55:42that
- 55:42was
- 55:43invented
- 55:43here
- 55:43in
- 55:44Portland,
- 55:44Oregon.
- 55:45And
- 55:45what's
- 55:45funny
- 55:46is
- 55:46that
- 55:46there's
- 55:46a
- 55:46guy
- 55:47that
- 55:47I
- 55:47met
- 55:47at
- 55:47the
- 55:48radio
- 55:48station
- 55:49eight
- 55:49years
- 55:49ago.
- 55:50He
- 55:50had
- 55:51this
- 55:51double
- 55:52barrel
- 55:52stone
- 55:53whiskey
- 55:53that
- 55:53he
- 55:54was
- 55:54doing
- 55:54here
- 55:54with
- 55:54that
- 55:55same
- 55:55distiller.
- 55:56And
- 55:56the
- 55:56more
- 55:57I
- 55:57talked
- 55:57to
- 55:57him,
- 55:57the
- 55:57more
- 55:58things
- 55:58got
- 55:58a
- 55:59little
- 55:59sketchy
- 56:00and
- 56:01things
- 56:01all
- 56:02of
- 56:02a
- 56:02sudden
- 56:02he
- 56:02just
- 56:02disappeared.
- 56:03So
- 56:04I
- 56:05dont
- 56:05know
- 56:05what
- 56:05the
- 56:05whole
- 56:05story
- 56:05was,
- 56:06but
- 56:06he
- 56:06changed
- 56:07his
- 56:07name
- 56:07off
- 56:08Facebook
- 56:08and
- 56:08everywhere
- 56:08else
- 56:09and
- 56:09just
- 56:09went
- 56:09into
- 56:09hiding
- 56:10down
- 56:10south
- 56:10someplace.
- 56:11Not
- 56:12sure
- 56:12what
- 56:12happened.
- 56:12Im
- 56:13sure
- 56:13people
- 56:13were
- 56:13owed
- 56:13money
- 56:14if
- 56:14I
- 56:14was
- 56:14to
- 56:14guess.
- 56:14But
- 56:15whatever
- 56:15happened,
- 56:15happened.
- 56:16Im
- 56:16speculating.
- 56:17Preston.
- 56:17One
- 56:18of
- 56:18my
- 56:18favorite
- 56:18whiskeys
- 56:18is
- 56:19actually
- 56:19not
- 56:19from
- 56:19Portland,
- 56:19but
- 56:20up
- 56:20in
- 56:20Seattle,
- 56:21the
- 56:21Westland
- 56:21distillery.
- 56:22So
- 56:23here's
- 56:23what
- 56:23I'm
- 56:23a
- 56:23huge
- 56:23fan
- 56:23of.
- 56:24Their
- 56:24stuff.
- 56:24Their
- 56:24stuff
- 56:24is
- 56:25spectacular.
- 56:26Yes
- 56:26it
- 56:27is.
- 56:27A
- 56:27year
- 56:27or
- 56:28two
- 56:28later
- 56:29that
- 56:29stuff
- 56:29comes
- 56:29out
- 56:30from
- 56:30the
- 56:30same
- 56:30distiller.
- 56:31It
- 56:31is
- 56:32the
- 56:32exact
- 56:33same
- 56:33recipe.
- 56:34Wild
- 56:35because
- 56:35I
- 56:35still
- 56:36had
- 56:36a
- 56:36bottle
- 56:37and
- 56:37did
- 56:37a
- 56:37side
- 56:37by
- 56:38side
- 56:38taste
- 56:38test
- 56:39and
- 56:39I
- 56:40had
- 56:40my
- 56:40wife
- 56:40doing
- 56:40it.
- 56:40I'm
- 56:41like,
- 56:41same
- 56:42exact
- 56:42whiskey.
- 56:43So
- 56:43if
- 56:43you'd
- 56:44have
- 56:44played
- 56:44his
- 56:44cards
- 56:44right,
- 56:45he'd
- 56:45have
- 56:45had
- 56:45that
- 56:45thing
- 56:45going
- 56:46off.
- 56:46And
- 56:46after
- 56:47liquor
- 56:47stores
- 56:47across
- 56:47the
- 56:48country.
- 56:48Like
- 56:48those
- 56:48guys
- 56:48do,
- 56:49I'll
- 56:49tell
- 56:50you
- 56:50this,
- 56:50I
- 56:50did
- 56:50a
- 56:50tasting
- 56:51event
- 56:51a
- 56:52couple
- 56:52of
- 56:52times
- 56:52in
- 56:53the
- 56:53last
- 56:53few
- 56:53years
- 56:53where
- 56:53we
- 56:54do
- 56:54a
- 56:54blind,
- 56:54blind
- 56:55tasting.
- 56:55We'll
- 56:56do,
- 56:56and
- 56:56I'll
- 56:57do
- 56:57usually
- 56:58very,
- 56:58very
- 56:58small
- 56:59pours
- 56:59because
- 56:59we're
- 57:00not
- 57:00drinking
- 57:00to
- 57:01get
- 57:02snackered
- 57:02here,
- 57:02we're
- 57:02drinking
- 57:03for
- 57:03the
- 57:04experience.
- 57:04And
- 57:05so
- 57:05I'll
- 57:05do
- 57:05five
- 57:06different
- 57:06pairs,
- 57:07very
- 57:07small
- 57:08steps
- 57:08of
- 57:08five
- 57:08different
- 57:09pairs.
- 57:09And
- 57:10one
- 57:11of
- 57:11them
- 57:11is
- 57:11always
- 57:12a
- 57:12really
- 57:13inexpensive
- 57:14bourbon
- 57:15up
- 57:15against
- 57:16a
- 57:17poor
- 57:17man's
- 57:17papi.
- 57:17A
- 57:18well
- 57:18or
- 57:18twelve.
- 57:18Yeah.
- 57:19Still
- 57:19great.
- 57:20Yeah,
- 57:20it's
- 57:20great.
- 57:21Every
- 57:21single
- 57:22time
- 57:23I've
- 57:23done
- 57:23this,
- 57:24everybody's
- 57:25always
- 57:25chosen
- 57:25the
- 57:26cheap
- 57:26bourbon.
- 57:27It's
- 57:27the
- 57:27caramel
- 57:28ness,
- 57:28it's
- 57:28the
- 57:28taste,
- 57:29it's
- 57:29just
- 57:29easy
- 57:30drinking.
- 57:30Right?
- 57:31Yeah.
- 57:31And
- 57:31so
- 57:32the
- 57:32one
- 57:32that
- 57:32always
- 57:33scores
- 57:33the
- 57:33highest
- 57:33is
- 57:33Jim
- 57:34beam
- 57:34black.
- 57:35Oh,
- 57:36interesting.
- 57:37Yeah.
- 57:37Which
- 57:37is
- 57:38amazing.
- 57:38It's
- 57:38what,
- 57:39$20
- 57:39a
- 57:39bottle?
- 57:40Yeah,
- 57:40there's
- 57:40a,
- 57:41that
- 57:41I
- 57:41drink
- 57:41out
- 57:41of
- 57:42Texas
- 57:42that's
- 57:42just
- 57:43my
- 57:43little,
- 57:43my
- 57:44personal
- 57:44house
- 57:44whiskey
- 57:45at
- 57:45home
- 57:45and
- 57:45it's
- 57:45a
- 57:46TX
- 57:46out
- 57:47of
- 57:47Texas.
- 57:47Oh,
- 57:47okay.
- 57:48I've
- 57:48not
- 57:48had
- 57:48that
- 57:49one.
- 57:49I've
- 57:49had
- 57:49the
- 57:49balconies
- 57:50quite
- 57:50a
- 57:50bit.
- 57:50Evan.
- 57:51Yeah,
- 57:51but
- 57:51TX
- 57:52is,
- 57:52it's
- 57:52just
- 57:53caramelly
- 57:53easy
- 57:54drinking.
- 57:54Just,
- 57:55just
- 57:55have
- 57:55something
- 57:56that's
- 57:56tasty
- 57:56that
- 57:56you
- 57:56could
- 57:57just
- 57:57drop
- 57:57over
- 57:57a
- 57:58drink
- 57:58it
- 57:58need
- 57:58or
- 57:59drop
- 57:59it
- 57:59over
- 57:59one
- 57:59of
- 57:59the
- 57:59big
- 58:00rocks
- 58:00and
- 58:00just
- 58:01a
- 58:01sipper
- 58:01that's
- 58:02enjoyable.
- 58:02And
- 58:02for
- 58:03$25
- 58:04for
- 58:04the
- 58:04bottle,
- 58:04you
- 58:05don't
- 58:05care.
- 58:05Right,
- 58:06right.
- 58:07And
- 58:07if
- 58:07friends
- 58:07come
- 58:07over
- 58:08and
- 58:08they
- 58:08block.
- 58:09Right.
- 58:10Yeah.
- 58:10It's
- 58:10not
- 58:11in
- 58:11the
- 58:11cabinet
- 58:11that
- 58:11nobody
- 58:12knows
- 58:12about
- 58:12with
- 58:12the
- 58:12other
- 58:13stuff
- 58:13like
- 58:13my,
- 58:14like
- 58:14my
- 58:14cuban
- 58:14embargo,
- 58:15Havana
- 58:16club
- 58:16rum
- 58:17and
- 58:17some
- 58:17of
- 58:17that
- 58:17stuff
- 58:18that
- 58:18I
- 58:19may
- 58:19or
- 58:19may
- 58:19not
- 58:19have
- 58:19in
- 58:20that
- 58:20cabin.
- 58:20Ah,
- 58:20yeah,
- 58:21yeah.
- 58:22No,
- 58:22I
- 58:22think
- 58:23that
- 58:23there's
- 58:23a
- 58:23lot
- 58:23of
- 58:23good
- 58:24ones
- 58:24out
- 58:24there.
- 58:24Honestly,
- 58:25when
- 58:25I
- 58:25do
- 58:26these
- 58:26events,
- 58:26I
- 58:26try
- 58:26to
- 58:26pour,
- 58:27like,
- 58:27two
- 58:28or
- 58:28three
- 58:28that
- 58:28are
- 58:29hard
- 58:29to
- 58:29find.
- 58:30Almost
- 58:30impossible
- 58:31find.
- 58:31Might
- 58:31be
- 58:31expensive.
- 58:32And
- 58:32then
- 58:32I'm
- 58:32going
- 58:32to
- 58:32pour
- 58:32a
- 58:32couple
- 58:33that
- 58:33you
- 58:33can
- 58:33go
- 58:33down
- 58:33to
- 58:33the
- 58:33liquor
- 58:34store
- 58:34and
- 58:34get,
- 58:34but
- 58:34you
- 58:35never
- 58:35would
- 58:36because
- 58:36there's
- 58:36a
- 58:36thousand
- 58:37bottles
- 58:37and
- 58:37you
- 58:37don't
- 58:38know
- 58:38what
- 58:38to
- 58:38pick.
- 58:39Yeah.
- 58:39Amen.
- 58:40So
- 58:40I
- 58:40did
- 58:40one
- 58:41last
- 58:41year
- 58:41where
- 58:42out
- 58:42of
- 58:43all
- 58:43of
- 58:43the
- 58:43ones
- 58:43that
- 58:44we
- 58:44poured,
- 58:44and
- 58:44there
- 58:44were
- 58:44ones
- 58:45anywhere
- 58:45from
- 58:46$15
- 58:46a
- 58:46bottle
- 58:47up
- 58:47to
- 58:47$400
- 58:48a
- 58:48bottle.
- 58:48Everybody
- 58:49chose
- 58:49a
- 58:49$15
- 58:50bottle.
- 58:50Yep.
- 58:50It
- 58:51was
- 58:51mellow
- 58:51corn.
- 58:52Wow.
- 58:53$15
- 58:53a
- 58:53bottle.
- 58:54It's
- 58:54corn
- 58:54whiskey.
- 58:54It's
- 58:55yellow.
- 58:55It
- 58:56is.
- 58:56But
- 58:57I'll
- 58:57tell
- 58:57you
- 58:58wouldn't
- 58:58want.
- 58:59No,
- 58:59it's
- 59:00smooth
- 59:00as
- 59:00silk.
- 59:01It's.
- 59:01It's
- 59:02a
- 59:02great
- 59:02dessert
- 59:03whiskey,
- 59:03if
- 59:03you're
- 59:03into
- 59:04dessert
- 59:04whiskey.
- 59:04Yep.
- 59:05That
- 59:05makes
- 59:05sense.
- 59:06So,
- 59:06Andy,
- 59:07we're
- 59:07running
- 59:07out
- 59:07of
- 59:07time
- 59:07here.
- 59:08You
- 59:08and
- 59:08I
- 59:08could
- 59:08do
- 59:08this,
- 59:09like,
- 59:09for
- 59:09the
- 59:09next
- 59:096
- 59:09hours,
- 59:10which
- 59:10would
- 59:10be
- 59:10like
- 59:10this
- 59:11big
- 59:11Joe
- 59:11Rogan
- 59:12double
- 59:12fest
- 59:13thing,
- 59:13which
- 59:13we're
- 59:13not
- 59:13going
- 59:14to
- 59:14do
- 59:14today,
- 59:14but
- 59:14we're
- 59:14going
- 59:15to
- 59:15do
- 59:15it
- 59:15again
- 59:15here
- 59:15soon.
- 59:16But
- 59:16how
- 59:16do
- 59:17people
- 59:17track
- 59:17you
- 59:17down?
- 59:18Because
- 59:18the
- 59:19green
- 59:20building
- 59:20is
- 59:20such
- 59:21a
- 59:21thing.
- 59:22That
- 59:22should
- 59:22be
- 59:22a
- 59:22normal
- 59:23thing
- 59:23out
- 59:23there.
- 59:23And
- 59:23for
- 59:24people
- 59:24remodeling,
- 59:24there
- 59:25are
- 59:25people
- 59:25that
- 59:25are
- 59:25building
- 59:25homes.
- 59:26They
- 59:27need
- 59:27to
- 59:27know
- 59:27how
- 59:28to
- 59:28track
- 59:28you
- 59:28down
- 59:28for
- 59:29this
- 59:29kind
- 59:29of
- 59:29stuff
- 59:29because
- 59:30you're
- 59:30such
- 59:31an
- 59:31amazing
- 59:31resource
- 59:32nationwide
- 59:32for
- 59:32people.
- 59:33Oh,
- 59:33thank
- 59:34you.
- 59:34Best
- 59:35way
- 59:35to
- 59:35find
- 59:35me
- 59:35is
- 59:36our
- 59:36website,
- 59:36thegreendesigncenter.com
- 59:38dot.
- 59:39From
- 59:39that,
- 59:39you'll
- 59:39find
- 59:40links
- 59:40to
- 59:41not
- 59:41only
- 59:41the
- 59:41products
- 59:42that
- 59:42I've
- 59:42curated
- 59:43over
- 59:43the
- 59:43years
- 59:43to
- 59:43be
- 59:43the
- 59:44healthiest
- 59:44of
- 59:44the
- 59:44healthy,
- 59:45but
- 59:45also
- 59:46links
- 59:46to
- 59:47consulting
- 59:47to.
- 59:48I
- 59:48do
- 59:48a
- 59:49podcast
- 59:49called
- 59:49non
- 59:50toxic
- 59:50environments,
- 59:51slowly
- 59:52trying
- 59:52to
- 59:52figure
- 59:53out
- 59:53YouTube
- 59:53and
- 59:53get
- 59:54videos
- 59:54up
- 59:54on
- 59:54YouTube
- 59:55so
- 59:55that's
- 59:55linked
- 59:55on
- 59:55there.
- 59:56And
- 59:56then
- 59:57I
- 59:57also
- 59:57have
- 59:57a
- 59:57private,
- 59:58what's
- 59:58called
- 59:58a
- 59:58circle
- 59:58community,
- 59:59which
- 1:00:00is
- 1:00:00made
- 1:00:00up
- 1:00:00of
- 1:00:01customers
- 1:00:01and
- 1:00:01clients
- 1:00:02that
- 1:00:02are
- 1:00:02truly
- 1:00:03trying
- 1:00:03to
- 1:00:03find
- 1:00:03answers
- 1:00:04to
- 1:00:04how
- 1:00:05do
- 1:00:05I
- 1:00:05make
- 1:00:05this
- 1:00:05aspect
- 1:00:06of
- 1:00:06my
- 1:00:06home
- 1:00:06healthier?
- 1:00:07What
- 1:00:07do
- 1:00:07I
- 1:00:07do
- 1:00:07in
- 1:00:07this
- 1:00:08situation?
- 1:00:09It's
- 1:00:09not
- 1:00:10like
- 1:00:10social
- 1:00:10media
- 1:00:11where
- 1:00:11somebody
- 1:00:12can
- 1:00:12come
- 1:00:12on
- 1:00:13and
- 1:00:13basically
- 1:00:13blast
- 1:00:14you
- 1:00:14for
- 1:00:14whatever
- 1:00:14opinion
- 1:00:14you
- 1:00:15have.
- 1:00:15This
- 1:00:15is
- 1:00:16actually
- 1:00:16people
- 1:00:16helping
- 1:00:17people,
- 1:00:17and
- 1:00:17I
- 1:00:17absolutely
- 1:00:18love
- 1:00:18it.
- 1:00:18I
- 1:00:18do
- 1:00:18that
- 1:00:19as
- 1:00:19a
- 1:00:19free
- 1:00:19service
- 1:00:20for
- 1:00:20all
- 1:00:20my
- 1:00:21followers.
- 1:00:21Nice,
- 1:00:22man.
- 1:00:22I
- 1:00:23appreciate
- 1:00:23it,
- 1:00:23buddy.
- 1:00:23Thanks
- 1:00:24for
- 1:00:24taking
- 1:00:24the
- 1:00:24time
- 1:00:24today,
- 1:00:25Mandy.
- 1:00:25It's
- 1:00:25been
- 1:00:26way
- 1:00:26too
- 1:00:26long
- 1:00:26and
- 1:00:26I'll
- 1:00:26have
- 1:00:27to
- 1:00:27do
- 1:00:27this
- 1:00:27again
- 1:00:27soon
- 1:00:28because
- 1:00:28I
- 1:00:28think
- 1:00:28we
- 1:00:28just
- 1:00:29scratched
- 1:00:29the
- 1:00:29surface
- 1:00:29on
- 1:00:30this
- 1:00:30today.
- 1:00:30Exactly.
- 1:00:31Thanks.
- 1:00:31I
- 1:00:32appreciate
- 1:00:32it,
- 1:00:32Eric.
- 1:00:32All
- 1:00:33right.
- 1:00:33All
- 1:00:33right,
- 1:00:33guys,
- 1:00:34go
- 1:00:34back
- 1:00:34and
- 1:00:34make
- 1:00:35sure
- 1:00:35you
- 1:00:35listen
- 1:00:35to
- 1:00:35this
- 1:00:35one
- 1:00:35again
- 1:00:36because
- 1:00:36there's
- 1:00:36a
- 1:00:36lot
- 1:00:36of
- 1:00:37information
- 1:00:37here
- 1:00:37for
- 1:00:38you.
- 1:00:38I'm
- 1:00:38Eric
- 1:00:39G.
- 1:00:39And
- 1:00:39you've
- 1:00:40been
- 1:00:40listening
- 1:00:40to
- 1:00:41around
- 1:00:41the
- 1:00:41house.
- 1:00:45That
- 1:00:45was
- 1:00:45a
- 1:00:46fast
- 1:00:46part.
- 1:00:47Good
- 1:00:47work.
- 1:00:47That
- 1:00:48was
- 1:00:48fun.
- 1:00:55Somewhere
- 1:00:56unseen
- 1:00:58and
- 1:00:59undiscovered
- 1:01:01anywhere
- 1:01:02beyond
- 1:01:03the
- 1:01:03me
- 1:01:04love
- 1:01:05is
- 1:01:05a
- 1:01:05love
- 1:01:05song
- 1:01:06let's
- 1:01:06be
- 1:01:07lovers.
- 1:01:08We're
- 1:01:08all
- 1:01:09over
- 1:01:09the
- 1:01:09radio.
- 1:01:11Take
- 1:01:11mine
- 1:01:12down.
- 1:01:16You
- 1:01:17with
- 1:01:18you?
- 1:01:21Ral.