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Full Show Podcast: 12 December 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issue, the interviews, Issus and the Inside Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 1: on the early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's furniture
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Speaker 1: bands and apply at store use talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be hey, good morning to you, welcome to the programs.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for choosing us. I'm Andrew Dickins. It's six
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Speaker 2: minutes after five, so on the program today. Turns out,
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Speaker 2: having a gossip at work about your clients it can
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Speaker 2: get you fired. So what are the rules. We've got
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Speaker 2: an employment expert on that. Next, will we be skiing
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Speaker 2: at fucka Papa in twenty twenty five? That all hangs
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Speaker 2: in the balance. The government's got skin in the game
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Speaker 2: now they've given them a loan. We'll talk to Dave
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Speaker 2: Maisie from the Skifield with his forecast on skiing. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it's a skiing forecast. That's in ten minutes time. The
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Speaker 2: albatross has been hanging around our Next, will we get
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Speaker 2: new ferries anytime soon? Labor with their reaction to what
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Speaker 2: they call government in action just before sticks. We've got
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Speaker 2: Kate Fisher out of the States on the saga of
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Speaker 2: luig Gi Mangioni and also files of Malibu. And we've
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Speaker 2: got correspondence from right around New Zealand and news as
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Speaker 2: it breaks all in one hour. You can text me
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Speaker 2: on ninety two ninety two. You can email Dickens at
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Speaker 2: Newstalk ZMB dot co dot NZ.
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Speaker 3: The agenda.
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Speaker 2: It's Thursday, the twelfth of December. Israel says it's conducted
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Speaker 2: almost five hundred strikes in Syria in just two days.
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Speaker 2: The IDEF claims that destroyed the country's entire navy fleet,
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Speaker 2: as well as most of Syria's strategic weapon stockpiles.
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Speaker 4: I hereby warn the rebel leaders in Syria whoever follows
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Speaker 4: Asad's path will end up like Asad. We will not
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Speaker 4: allow an extremist Islamic terrorist entity to act against Israel
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Speaker 4: across its borders and at the risk of its citizens.
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Speaker 4: We will do whatever is necessary to remove that threat.
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Speaker 2: So to Australia, an investigation underway in Sydney. A car
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Speaker 2: was set on fire, multiple houses vandalized. That's what the
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Speaker 2: Prime Minister calls a hate crime. They're looking for two
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Speaker 2: people aged between fifteen and twenty, and Sydney comes just
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Speaker 2: a few days after a similar attack in Melbourne, where
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Speaker 2: a synagogue was set on fire. Police are treating it
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Speaker 2: as a possible terror attack. They have an operation called
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Speaker 2: Operation the Light, which is trying to combat this sort
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Speaker 2: of stuff. Police in South Korea have arrested their own
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Speaker 2: national chief and the head of Sul's police force for
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Speaker 2: blocking access to the National Assembly on the night that
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Speaker 2: the president voked martial law at a parliamentary committee. A
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Speaker 2: special warfare commander says the president called and asked him
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Speaker 2: to forcibly remove members of parliament from the chamber so
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Speaker 2: they wouldn't have enough votes to overturn the martial.
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Speaker 1: Law even if he followed the directive. Our deployed forces
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Speaker 1: will later be considered law.
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Speaker 3: Breakers, and too many people cook get hurt. We determine
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Speaker 3: it would beyond.
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Speaker 2: Just there we go. And finally, US inflation has jumped
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Speaker 2: up heading two point seven percent in the year ending November,
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Speaker 2: slightly higher from the two point six percent was seen
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Speaker 2: in a previous month. Food and petrol prices. Where the
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Speaker 2: big drivers of inflation will is winter. There, of course,
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Speaker 2: the food gets more expensive. Despite all of that, though,
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Speaker 2: the Federal Reserve still expected to cut rates next week,
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Speaker 2: which is going to make the world economy harden. It
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Speaker 2: is nine after five.
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Speaker 1: The news You need this Morning and the in Depth
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Speaker 1: Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Spit City New
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Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Bits and applying store news talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be oh, actually, since we're talking about inflation going
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Speaker 2: up in America, let's talk about the fact that this
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Speaker 2: week we found out that inflation was still going up
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Speaker 2: in Australia. The Reserve Bank there are nowhere near lowering
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Speaker 2: interest rates like we have. Inflation is still blunting their
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Speaker 2: daily life. So in Australia they actually praise us, you
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Speaker 2: know that, they actually praise our hard edged approach to inflation.
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Speaker 2: We rose interest rates hard, yes, but then we lowered
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Speaker 2: them hard as well. They didn't. They've been hoping for
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Speaker 2: a soft landing that never happened. So inflation grumbles on.
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Speaker 2: And look, it's important for us, isn't it that Australia
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Speaker 2: does well, a healthy Australian economy, Because they are our
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Speaker 2: big brother. I'd hope they would do a little bit better.
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Here's the thing. In Australia they
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Speaker 2: praise our Reserve Bank, We damn them. We blame Adrian
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Speaker 2: Or for getting us into a world of pain. Turns
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Speaker 2: out the world of pain was being felt all over
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Speaker 2: the world. Adrian or was not some outlier doing something
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Speaker 2: completely crazy. Everybody was spending too much, everybody loosened far
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Speaker 2: too much. Nobody expected the global economy to work so
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Speaker 2: well from home. So in Australia they view Adrian kindly.
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Speaker 2: Look at those kiwis, Look how nimble they are, Look
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Speaker 2: how brave they are, look at them pivoting on a dime.
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Speaker 2: And meanwhile in New Zealand we talk about the nirvana
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Speaker 2: and the rivers of gold that wait for our young
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Speaker 2: folk in Australia, and so off they go. So here's
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Speaker 2: a fact check. In Australia, inflationist still on the charge.
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Speaker 2: In Australia, the housing crisis is worse than ours. In Australia,
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Speaker 2: they have three tiers of taxation. In Australia, they have
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Speaker 2: way more user pays than us. In Australia, their Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister looks more and more like an out of a
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Speaker 2: touch ideological lefty than ours. In fact, the only thing
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Speaker 2: about Australia that I like is the fact that they're bigger.
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Speaker 2: So if you do well in Australia, will do very well.
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Speaker 2: But otherwise I know exactly where i'd like to be.
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Speaker 2: And that is right where I am right now, Dickens.
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Speaker 2: So we're waiting for the confirmation of Times Person of
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Speaker 2: the Year. It's going to happen sometime in the next
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Speaker 2: hour or two. The favorite, Donald Trump. In fact, they're
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Speaker 2: giving him this is the betting odds give him an
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Speaker 2: eighty three percent implied probability that he gets Person of
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Speaker 2: the Year. He's already got it once before, back in
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. You have to say what he did
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Speaker 2: was pretty remarkable to come back and to win this.
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Speaker 2: But there's other names on there as well, like Elon Musk.
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Speaker 2: Now Elon Musk was also named Person of the Year
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Speaker 2: back in twenty twenty one. He's now ten to one
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Speaker 2: to do it again. Look at Elon Though. He's got rockets,
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Speaker 2: he's got cars, he's got batteries on the side of houses,
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Speaker 2: and he helps Donald Trump get back into power. Didn't
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Speaker 2: he do more than Donald? Also in there as Kamala Harris,
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Speaker 2: Kate Middleton has been nominated Princess of Wales for looking
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Speaker 2: great through cancer. Benjamin Netts and Yahoo's been nominated. Joe
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Speaker 2: Rogan has been nominated. Mark Zuckerberg, who would you nominate
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Speaker 2: as person of the Year. You can text me ninety
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Speaker 2: two ninety two and at number again ninety two ninety two.
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Speaker 2: Dickinson Newstalks at b dot Co dot M said, you
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Speaker 2: know you have a good old chat about your clients.
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Speaker 2: What about that client that you have sold that to? God,
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Speaker 2: he's a bit weird that one. You do that at
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Speaker 2: work right? Apparently it's not good. You can get in trouble.
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Speaker 2: Staff at Immigration in New Zealand got into big trouble.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about this with an employment expert next here
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Speaker 2: on news Talks here b five thirteen.
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Speaker 3: Get ahead of the headlines.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Diggins on early edition with Smith City New Zealand's
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Speaker 1: furniture bids and apply at store News Talks.
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Speaker 2: It'd be great little protests happening right now in London
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Speaker 2: as farmers and tractors descend on Westminster. No farmers, no food,
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Speaker 2: classic absolutely classic, great sites, big old riggs all storming
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Speaker 2: up there and will keep you in touch with details
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Speaker 2: as they come to hand. Now staff at Immigration New
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Speaker 2: Zealand have been sacked or given formal warnings for sending
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Speaker 2: inappropriate messages about migrants their clients to each other. So
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Speaker 2: sixteen staff members at several branches were disciplined inappropriately talking
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Speaker 2: about visa applicants on team chats. And you know team chats,
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Speaker 2: it's a work software. We've all used that. Employment expert
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Speaker 2: Max Whitehead joins me now to talk about this other.
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Speaker 5: Max, good morning, Andrew.
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Speaker 6: There's a shocker.
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Speaker 2: Is it a shocker? I mean hello, I mean everyone
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Speaker 2: is guilty about gossip being about our clients. These are
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Speaker 2: just clients. They're talking about stuff they're helping, they're being collegial, Max.
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Speaker 5: Yes, but one, you're using an employer's tool to make
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Speaker 5: this disrespectful and could easily bring the employer into disrepute
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Speaker 5: and has because obviously these people now are in the media.
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Speaker 5: I mean Andrew Dickinson's talking about them right now.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. So hold on. They made a very
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Speaker 2: important point because it's because it's on teams that makes
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Speaker 2: it worse.
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Speaker 5: It doesn't make it worse. And look, even if they
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Speaker 5: made a comment on their own social media like Facebook
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Speaker 5: or or you know, any one of those TikTok or
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Speaker 5: anything like that at all, that brings the employer into disrepute.
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Speaker 5: So if they said something like this is the worst
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Speaker 5: employer anybody could have, I'm suffering here. That will bring
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Speaker 5: that will bring on disciplinary action, and it could even
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Speaker 5: be dismissal. So the employer is required to have a
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Speaker 5: policy before they can enforce it. If it's not there's
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Speaker 5: no policy, they should at least give the person a
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Speaker 5: warning first offense, and then thereafter go after it. But
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Speaker 5: employers need to be aware that they also have to
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Speaker 5: be careful of free speech, because people do have an
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Speaker 5: entitlement to say well what they like to some extent,
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Speaker 5: but bringing someone into disrepute that particularly your employer, the
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Speaker 5: employer can be reactive to it, and probably will.
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Speaker 2: Of course, my social media is full of me criticizing everybody.
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Speaker 2: You know, so I'm in big trouble, I guess. But
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Speaker 2: people forget about reputational risk and reputational risks to companies
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Speaker 2: and reputational risks to individuals and your own brand.
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Speaker 5: Correct and look more of the higher ranking like look
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Speaker 5: at you. I'm in the highest ranking person in ZB.
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Speaker 5: If you made a comment, you would be in worse
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Speaker 5: trouble than perhaps someone slowly down the line. If I
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Speaker 5: was just a normal employee who fronted up and did
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Speaker 5: all the league work, that would have a big, big
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Speaker 5: ramification for you. Now there's there's a couple of court
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Speaker 5: cases which are really interesting. One man had road rage
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Speaker 5: and actually ran over somebody and that made headlines. And
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Speaker 5: of course, but everyone knew where this person worked. He
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Speaker 5: had a high profile, and so the employer dismissed him,
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Speaker 5: even though I had nothing to do with the workplace,
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Speaker 5: dismissed him for bringing into distribute. Another person on the
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Speaker 5: birthday cake put something like and I work for the
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Speaker 5: worst bees in the world. You know, I can't say
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Speaker 5: the word, but certainly that person on social media and
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Speaker 5: thought it was funny and wow, gone finished.
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Speaker 2: All right, Max, that's a very warning that has Max
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Speaker 2: Whitehead here is an employment law specialist with white Head Consultants.
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Speaker 2: And look, here's the thing. Make some rules for yourself
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Speaker 2: if your employer, please make a rule for your employees too,
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Speaker 2: so you know, just in case they are having a
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Speaker 2: bit of a gossip they realize that that's the wrong thing.
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Speaker 2: Don't just come out of the blue. And remember, termination
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Speaker 2: is terminal. Can I just say I have skied at
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Speaker 2: fucker Papa ski Field since I was five years of
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Speaker 2: age and I am now sixty one. I have skied
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Speaker 2: at that place a lot, and it breaks my heart
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Speaker 2: that it could possibly never be skeied on again. So
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Speaker 2: we'll update exactly where we're at with all of that
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Speaker 2: in just a few moments time with the guy who
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Speaker 2: runs the field. It's nineteen alf to five on your.
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Speaker 1: Radio and online on iHeartRadio Early edition with Andrew Dickens
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Speaker 1: and Smith City, New Zealand's to Bids and a playing Store.
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Speaker 2: You talk said, be that's good mooing to you.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 2: Despite the fact that Shane Jones said no more money
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Speaker 2: for ral, Cabinet has approved a five minute endlar bone
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Speaker 2: for Fucking Papa Holdings limits it to buy RuPay Who's
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Speaker 2: fucker Papa ski Field? So the loan hangs on Fucker
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Speaker 2: Papa Holdings getting a concession to run the skifield from
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Speaker 2: the Department of Conservation. This how could be complete by April,
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Speaker 2: ready for the twenty twenty five ski season. So Dave
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Speaker 2: Mayzie as a man trying to hold it all together
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Speaker 2: and joins me.
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Speaker 6: Now, Hello, Dave, Hello, Andre, how are you?
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Speaker 2: I'm very good and obviously I'm a former life pass
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Speaker 2: owner from nineteen seventy six.
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Speaker 3: Mate.
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Speaker 2: I want this field to go, will it? I wanted
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Speaker 2: to work?
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Speaker 6: No, it'll go it'll work, it will be successful, and
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Speaker 6: it'll get back to contributing to central North Island economy
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Speaker 6: in particular and the lifestyle of a lot of Kiwis.
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Speaker 2: It's fuck Papa Holdings in any way related to the
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Speaker 2: old ral rupey who our plane lifts.
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Speaker 6: No, No, I'm the only You're the only one individual
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Speaker 6: that's got an association with ral from years gone by.
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Speaker 2: The government's giving you cash. I mean, do you have
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Speaker 2: private backers who will step in from April?
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Speaker 6: You know, there's a group of investors that come out
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Speaker 6: of a South Island office which is a cross Church
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Speaker 6: based investment company and myself the investors.
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Speaker 5: If you get.
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Speaker 2: Approval from the Department of con If you get approval
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Speaker 2: from Department of Conservation it comes to in April, that
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Speaker 2: does it give you enough time to be skiing in July.
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Speaker 6: Well, the receivers will be trading the company up until
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Speaker 6: that gentleman date and they'll be preparing it for winter.
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Speaker 6: So yes, we don't have an issue with that.
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Speaker 2: Something I've always asked is if I wondered about is
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Speaker 2: what's happening to the ski clubs that are on fuck Aparta,
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Speaker 2: Because there's about forty or fifty of them up there.
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Speaker 2: I used to belong to Christiania, made of mine, used
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Speaker 2: to be the president of Tahara Nuku. I mean there's
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Speaker 2: a lot of infrastructure up there that is dependent on
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Speaker 2: people being able to ski.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's that's part of the risks for focker
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Speaker 6: poper not trading going forwards. There's fifty eyed lodges there.
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Speaker 6: They're still they're still there. There's still very much as
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Speaker 6: you will remember, and if the skier is not there
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Speaker 6: reasonable expectation that those lodges will all all those clubs
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Speaker 6: will fall over and that sort the next tip five
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Speaker 6: to ten years and someone's got to pick up the
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Speaker 6: cost of their removing.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Now that's the other thing. When when this
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Speaker 2: field falls over or touro fall falls over, the Department
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Speaker 2: of Conservation demands that you then have to re establish
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Speaker 2: the mountain. You're going to take down the kit another
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Speaker 2: and if you had to take down all the ski
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Speaker 2: for your kit, that's one hundred million dollars to take
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Speaker 2: down a holiday kit that does nothing.
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Speaker 6: Why well, it's a World Heritage site that's sincerely strong
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Speaker 6: and highly regarded. Attributes to social to look themong or
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Speaker 6: it's incredibly significant to local EWE. And you don't leave
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Speaker 6: stranded assets in a national park. When road bridges get
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Speaker 6: roads get realigned, and a bridge is redundant through a
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Speaker 6: national park, it gets fully removed in the land restored,
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Speaker 6: same principle.
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Speaker 2: So expensive. And one last question.
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Speaker 6: The companies were clubs have gone into receivership or liquidation,
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Speaker 6: then that that cost falls on dark arter government.
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Speaker 2: And finally, the Skywalker, which is the gondola, is that
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Speaker 2: separate to the ski operation? I mean, will that always
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Speaker 2: continue because it has a sightseeing thing, it has a
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Speaker 2: restaurant at the top. Is that sort of separated from
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Speaker 2: the rest of the company and the operation?
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Speaker 6: Now that well, it's one of the assets that will
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Speaker 6: be buy.
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Speaker 2: So which means you can operate all year long. Dave, look,
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Speaker 2: I wish you obviously only the best of black and
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Speaker 2: we should know this by April, that is five twenty five.
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Speaker 2: At me tired of hearing about the fairies. We've been
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Speaker 2: talking about fairies all week long. In fact, we've been
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Speaker 2: talking about them for a year. So we're going to
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Speaker 2: be talking about fairies. The Herald's headline this morning is
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Speaker 2: faerry plan light on key details, no kidding, like details
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Speaker 2: on a boat of wharf in a terminal. Basically that's
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Speaker 2: everything about about a faery. When Nichola Willis blew up
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Speaker 2: Kiwi Rail's plan for new fairies a year ago, she
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Speaker 2: promised a better plan. Is this a better plan? So
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Speaker 2: they're going to form a new company to buy some fairies.
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Speaker 2: No news about which fairies, which fairies, what kind of
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Speaker 2: ferries whatever, They're going to form a new company. That's
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Speaker 2: two seconds work. Nothing about what's happening port side. Also
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Speaker 2: an invitation to private industry to come up with a
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Speaker 2: better solution. So let's review again. No new fairies, no
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Speaker 2: new ports, no ships ordered, and seemingly no idea that
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Speaker 2: private industry already provides a service that is Bootbridge. You're
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Speaker 2: going to say, maybe a private person could come up
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Speaker 2: with some interest, Why don't you closed down the ferries
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Speaker 2: and give them all to Bluebridge, Because that's what you
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Speaker 2: just said, Nikola Wis. Finance Minister Chris Hipkins said this
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Speaker 2: was an announcement of an announcement. How rich is that
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Speaker 2: It's exactly what we lampooned him for But is it
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Speaker 2: an announcement of an announcement. It is rather because you
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Speaker 2: know they've got to still announce the ferries, the wharves
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Speaker 2: and the terminal. It was ideological, don't you think the
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Speaker 2: government came in, saw government spending and this government doesn't
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Speaker 2: make spending, so they canceled it without thinking about the
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Speaker 2: long term consequences. It was an ideological These guys are
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Speaker 2: sounding more and more like the Labor Party every day
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Speaker 2: when I talk like this. This was not based on
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Speaker 2: business practice or financial logic. It's not on brand, and
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Speaker 2: it's harming reputationally. Think about this as a business. They
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Speaker 2: broke a contract for ships that was a good deal.
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Speaker 2: Breaking contracts not good puts flag on head. Not to
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Speaker 2: mention the break free, which some people have say could
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Speaker 2: be as highest round a mill. Now we have basically
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Speaker 2: a company owned by the government desperately in the market,
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Speaker 2: and the providers of new boats or second hand boats
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Speaker 2: will go, gee, these guys a week, aren't they look
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Speaker 2: at their week in possession? That desperate for a boat.
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Speaker 2: Let's sell them this piece of rust. The government just
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Speaker 2: needs a boat to save their face. Sellers will no
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Speaker 2: longer be sharpening their pencils, portside costs continue to escalate.
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Speaker 2: This is a government that prides itself on business acumen
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Speaker 2: and ability of mergers and acquisitions, and they've given themselves
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Speaker 2: a weekend going forward. They don't seem to know what
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Speaker 2: to do and so they're doing nothing and when they
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Speaker 2: do do something, they won't have a strong position anyway.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Labor's spokesperson on this fellow
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Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of before. His name is Tonguey. He's
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Speaker 2: the Whip. He's going to join us just before six.
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Speaker 1: It's early edition with Andrew Dickens and Smith City New
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Speaker 1: Zealand's Furniture Beds and a Flying Store Youth talk Siddy.
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Speaker 2: Loving the protests in Westminster right now. Farmers are revolting.
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Speaker 2: No farmers, no foods. They feel they're getting the crunch
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Speaker 2: from the Labor Party. And look at them. They're dress
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Speaker 2: and beautiful berbery, magnificent cheese cutter hats. They're looking super country,
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Speaker 2: looking super fine and they are not happy. So more
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Speaker 2: details in our news coming up now. Reaction to the fairies,
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Speaker 2: Andrews says Gavin from Canterbury. The fairies were a bargain.
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Speaker 2: If they were impossible to use, we could have finished
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Speaker 2: them and then sold them for a profit. Now we
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Speaker 2: pay three hundred and fifty million and get nothing. What
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Speaker 2: a good a point. Somebody else has said, I've got
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Speaker 2: a new name for the boat if we ever get one.
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Speaker 2: It's called boti nec.
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Speaker 3: Save face.
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Speaker 2: Bumpcha twenty three to six. Core Logics come out with
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Speaker 2: their highlights of twenty twenty four. Most expensive suburb Hermbay
18:48
Speaker 2: average three point three six million. Most affordable suburb murder
18:51
Speaker 2: Para buy a house there average one ninety one thousand,
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Speaker 2: one hundred ninety one thousand. I'll have to thank you.
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Speaker 2: Top sale eighty four poud of tie Drive od K
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Speaker 2: twenty one point eight mil. Highest rent change in Niokoho,
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Speaker 2: which is in topoor medium rents increased twenty seven point
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Speaker 2: seven percent Nicoho well Highest rental yield where you make
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Speaker 2: the most money from your rental Matada in Southern gross
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Speaker 2: rental yield of ten point eight, followed by Wellington Central
19:21
Speaker 2: at nine point two. It's twenty two to two six
19:25
Speaker 2: and around the country you go.
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Speaker 5: Come.
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Speaker 2: I'm Proctor and toned a good morning to you.
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Speaker 7: Morning Andrew earthquakes.
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Speaker 2: You don't think of them in Otago, and now you
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Speaker 2: don't have to worry about them so much.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
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Speaker 7: Well there's some slightly good news. I supposed for central
19:38
Speaker 7: Otaga residence. The chance of an earthquake along a western
19:42
Speaker 7: Otago fault line is now thought to be lower than expected.
19:45
Speaker 7: This is after a new Otaga University research looked into
19:49
Speaker 7: the Nevis Kadrona fault to determine just when exactly prehistoric
19:53
Speaker 7: earthquakes took earthquakes took place along this fault line, and
19:57
Speaker 7: they've discovered the fault has experienced fewer quakes than initially thought,
20:01
Speaker 7: one over twelve thousand years ago, another between twenty and
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Speaker 7: forty thousand years ago. So the lead author's doctor Jack Williams.
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Speaker 7: He says that this helps him create an insight into
20:10
Speaker 7: when future earthquakes may happen. He says, despite less frequent
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Speaker 7: quakes on this fault, people should always though plan.
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Speaker 2: Ahead exactly and I'm sure it's still going to be
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Speaker 2: on your building consent anyway. How's your weather.
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Speaker 7: Find at first chance for shower later this evening for
20:24
Speaker 7: Daneeda nor that he's easing the high twenty four today.
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Speaker 2: And I thank you. Claire Sherwood joins us now from Crashers, Hello, Claire,
20:30
Speaker 2: good morning, and environment Canterby' is pushing back against the
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Speaker 2: Treaty Principal's Bill.
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Speaker 8: They certainly are, Andrew. Canterbury Regional Counselors have voted in
20:38
Speaker 8: favor of a draft submission which is calling for the
20:40
Speaker 8: bill's abandonment. The draft says the Council's committed to becoming
20:45
Speaker 8: a Treaty partner of excellence and says the bill would
20:48
Speaker 8: create both legal and financial uncertainty environment Canterbury Chair Craig
20:53
Speaker 8: Pauling says it's important council stance is known and it's
20:57
Speaker 8: not an option to simply sit back and not stand up.
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Speaker 8: He says he doesn't believe it could inflame the situation
21:03
Speaker 8: as it provides clarity on where the Council is at
21:06
Speaker 8: and the potential good stuff.
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Speaker 2: And how's your weather?
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Speaker 9: Fine?
21:10
Speaker 8: In price Church aside from a bit of high cloud
21:12
Speaker 8: northeasterlyas turning northwest later a maximum of twenty.
21:15
Speaker 2: Seven Okay to Wellington we go where the search for
21:18
Speaker 2: a gang shooter widens. Max told joins is hell her?
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Speaker 6: Max?
21:21
Speaker 2: What's happening?
21:22
Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 10: A former a gang president was shot dead on Tuesday,
21:25
Speaker 10: Albert Knocker of the Rebels. He was targeted, shot in
21:29
Speaker 10: broad daylight in the middle of the afternoon on a
21:31
Speaker 10: suburban street in a lower huts nine night. He died
21:35
Speaker 10: then and there before police could arrive. There had been
21:37
Speaker 10: some sort of verbal altercation on the street and the shooter,
21:41
Speaker 10: who police described as a large full facial tattoos about
21:45
Speaker 10: thirty years old, fled with some associates. There is a
21:49
Speaker 10: homicide investigation underway, of course. Police want to speak to
21:52
Speaker 10: anyone around Seddon Street, particularly residents who might have a
21:55
Speaker 10: front facing security camera on their home. They do have
21:59
Speaker 10: the plate of the car. They don't think there's a
22:02
Speaker 10: risk of some sort of gang war erupting. Enoca had
22:05
Speaker 10: only been released from prison earlier this year.
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Speaker 2: And how's your weather?
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Speaker 10: Mostly cloudy today with the odd shower twenty the high central.
22:14
Speaker 2: Neva left to Mane who joined me in studio, had
22:15
Speaker 2: anva good morning, so kinda airport had a bit of
22:18
Speaker 2: an it your name, oh Fuba, what.
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Speaker 11: A cluster this was yesterday. I mean, when I was
22:24
Speaker 11: reading this story, you know, in the news yesterday morning,
22:26
Speaker 11: I thought I am so glad I wasn't flying anywhere
22:29
Speaker 11: overseas yesterday. I just yes, SPIRA thought for those people.
22:32
Speaker 11: But yes, so the internet access was cut. This was
22:35
Speaker 11: for the international check and system, so many airlines they
22:38
Speaker 11: had to manually check people in until around nine am
22:41
Speaker 11: they had queues out the door. The airport says that
22:44
Speaker 11: this issue was in the domain of one of its
22:45
Speaker 11: network providers now Grant Bradley, he's The Herald's aviation reporter.
22:50
Speaker 11: He says this fault came up also while the airport
22:52
Speaker 11: deals with its range of problems, you know, including you know,
22:55
Speaker 11: of the baggage system. So he says, they're probably maybe
22:59
Speaker 11: a lot of pointing. There is the stakeholders meet and
23:02
Speaker 11: they're going to try and figure out how to ensure
23:03
Speaker 11: that this doesn't happen again, especially as we know Christmas
23:07
Speaker 11: just around the corner, busy time for the airports. How's
23:09
Speaker 11: Hawkin's weather periods of heavy rain, localized downpours possible, tending
23:13
Speaker 11: to showers by evening, thunderstorms possible. We've got it all, Andrew.
23:16
Speaker 11: But it's still warm. Our high twenty three in Auckland.
23:19
Speaker 2: It is eighteen to six now. Luigi Mangioni, what a
23:22
Speaker 2: name what a person, what a story. I mean, he
23:23
Speaker 2: was a valedictorian.
23:24
Speaker 3: He was.
23:25
Speaker 2: He came from really good stock, you know, and then
23:27
Speaker 2: somehow he went a bit crazy and decided to wage
23:30
Speaker 2: war on corporate America. Luigi Mangioni is also a very
23:35
Speaker 2: entertaining name to saying. The only Mangioni I know is
23:37
Speaker 2: Chuck who played a flugel horn. Remember Chuck Mangioni and
23:42
Speaker 2: feels so good. Anyway, what is the latest on Luigi Mangioni?
23:45
Speaker 2: Fascinating story. Cape Fisher is with US.
23:47
Speaker 1: Next international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
23:51
Speaker 1: mind for New Zealand business.
23:54
Speaker 2: As Cape Fisher joins US from Washington, DC. Hellyicate, Hello,
23:59
Speaker 2: what what's the latest with Luigi Mangioni.
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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, he has He's in jail in Pennsylvania at
24:08
Speaker 9: the moment. He has been charged in New York with
24:13
Speaker 9: the assassination of the United Healthcare insurance boss Brian Thompson.
24:19
Speaker 9: But he has a fighting extradition. He appeared in court
24:23
Speaker 9: yesterday in Pennsylvania and he refused to be extradited with
24:28
Speaker 9: his giving his consent to do so, and so he
24:32
Speaker 9: was denied bail, which means he remains in jail in
24:34
Speaker 9: Pennsylvania while the legal ramifications are sorted out in trying
24:40
Speaker 9: to get him extracited to New York. He's going to
24:43
Speaker 9: be going, It's just going to take a lot longer
24:45
Speaker 9: because he is refusing to cooperate. We have also found
24:50
Speaker 9: out reporting here saying that a notebook was found on him,
24:54
Speaker 9: which in which he described or the notebook, the writing
24:57
Speaker 9: in the notebook described going to a common and killing
25:00
Speaker 9: an executive. Quote, what do you do? You whack the
25:04
Speaker 9: CEO at the annual parasitic being counter convention. It's targeted,
25:08
Speaker 9: precise and doesn't risk innocence.
25:12
Speaker 2: So the fact that the United Healthcare boss and the
25:15
Speaker 2: fact that he assassinated him, there wasn't any any personal beef.
25:17
Speaker 2: That was just because he exists.
25:21
Speaker 9: Well, yeah, he's the fact he allegedly did. So, yeah,
25:24
Speaker 9: it's his manifesto. Police are suggesting as it is such
25:29
Speaker 9: as it is, is that he was fed up with
25:32
Speaker 9: corporate America and that he wanted to make an example of,
25:37
Speaker 9: you know, of trying to make a statement, if you like,
25:40
Speaker 9: by doing something that would bring down one of these
25:45
Speaker 9: chief executives. It doesn't suggest in any of the writings
25:49
Speaker 9: that has certainly been reported on so far that there
25:51
Speaker 9: was a personal issue with United Healthcare. It was more
25:55
Speaker 9: of a general issue with the whole of corporate America.
25:58
Speaker 2: So mister Thompson was just in the wrong at the
26:00
Speaker 2: wrong time. It's a tragedy, it's a horrific crime. We've
26:03
Speaker 2: got fires in Malibu, and you know it's serious. The
26:05
Speaker 2: celebrities are evacuating.
26:08
Speaker 9: That's right. Dick Van Dyke, who was in of course
26:13
Speaker 9: Mary Poppins and musicians share or among thousands of people
26:17
Speaker 9: who've been told to leave their homes in Malibu after
26:20
Speaker 9: this really fast moving wildfire broke out. It's burning acres
26:26
Speaker 9: of this area, and it's a very wealthy area. Lots
26:28
Speaker 9: of very rich people and stars lived there. Were also
26:33
Speaker 9: told that people like Barbara Streisan, Jay Z, and Beyonce
26:37
Speaker 9: Lady Gaga all have homes in the evacuation zone, although
26:40
Speaker 9: we don't know whether they've been forced to leave or
26:42
Speaker 9: even if they are in those homes at the moment.
26:46
Speaker 9: But yeah, lots of residents having to leave, a vast
26:51
Speaker 9: wave of California under fire, and this of course is
26:55
Speaker 9: becoming a regular annual event in California.
26:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely thanks so much. Cake Fisher out of Washington, DC,
27:02
Speaker 2: and those guys who are being evacuated. Also the news
27:05
Speaker 2: jay Z who's in diddy Gate right now, and Beyonce
27:08
Speaker 2: Dick van Dyke who's starring in the latest Cold Played
27:10
Speaker 2: video which is well worth the look. And he's ninety
27:12
Speaker 2: nine almost one hundred and Share who's just written a
27:15
Speaker 2: new book. And Share who, by the way, will be
27:17
Speaker 2: on the Breakfast Show shortly. I don't think I'm giving
27:21
Speaker 2: you anything away, but Share. What a story, what a person?
27:24
Speaker 3: It is twelve to six Andrew dickens.
27:28
Speaker 2: As a story on everybody's lips. It is the Fairy.
27:30
Speaker 2: The long awaited ferry announcement from the government came yesterday. However,
27:33
Speaker 2: there's still plenty of unanswered questions. There are going to
27:36
Speaker 2: be two new fairies, but the government won't say they
27:39
Speaker 2: how much they will cost, or whether the rare fairies
27:43
Speaker 2: will be rail enabled. A new Crown Company will be
27:46
Speaker 2: established to have the new Fairies ready to begin service
27:48
Speaker 2: by twenty twenty nine. And Tonguey Tickety joining me right now.
27:52
Speaker 2: He is a spokesperson for Transport and Labour's Chief Whip. Hello,
27:56
Speaker 2: this is a Christmas gift. For you, isn't it tongy?
27:59
Speaker 6: Good morning, Andrew.
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Speaker 12: Well, I think this whole saga has been ongoing and
28:03
Speaker 12: yesterday's announcement was extremely disappointing. It's rather underwhelming, and this
28:08
Speaker 12: has been the sort of mainstay for Nikolaullis since she's
28:11
Speaker 12: been in the Captain's chair around this particular issue of
28:15
Speaker 12: the fairies.
28:15
Speaker 2: What is underwhelming about this deal, Well, the issue.
28:19
Speaker 12: Is that nothing really was announced yesterday with an announcement
28:22
Speaker 12: of an announcement. What we've learned is that Kiwis will
28:26
Speaker 12: need to wait longer for the fairies when they do arrive.
28:28
Speaker 12: It was meant to be twenty twenty six under the
28:30
Speaker 12: former government. Now we'll have to wait until at least
28:33
Speaker 12: twenty twenty nine. There'll be smaller boats that are likely
28:36
Speaker 12: to be rail enabled, which will have huge implications for
28:40
Speaker 12: the main trunk line between the North and South Island,
28:43
Speaker 12: and fundamentally they will also end up costing much much more.
28:47
Speaker 12: That is not a deal that Kiwis deserve.
28:50
Speaker 2: Could you please explain the difference between ray rail enabled
28:56
Speaker 2: and rail compatible and no rail at all? I mean,
29:00
Speaker 2: what is the difference? Is rail enable is one roll
29:03
Speaker 2: on roll off or not you know.
29:06
Speaker 12: Yeah, So rail enabled is what we currently have within
29:08
Speaker 12: the inter round a fleet for one of the three ferries,
29:11
Speaker 12: and it means that basically freight can simply go on
29:15
Speaker 12: a train straight onto the ship at one end and
29:17
Speaker 12: then come straight off again at the other. Rail compatible
29:21
Speaker 12: means that they have to basically offload the freight onto
29:24
Speaker 12: another vehicle to get it onto the ferry and then
29:28
Speaker 12: at the other end do the same. So it is
29:29
Speaker 12: a sense of double handling. Now that adds additional cost
29:33
Speaker 12: to freight costs and who will carry that It will
29:36
Speaker 12: be the consumer that will carry it, but also the
29:39
Speaker 12: additional time it's around about three an extra three hours
29:43
Speaker 12: on a return journey to basically double handle, which will
29:47
Speaker 12: mean that you know, the faeries can't can't run as much.
29:50
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. National says their project will be
29:53
Speaker 2: cheaper than yours or the one that you were overseeing
29:55
Speaker 2: or the one that you were in charge of or
29:57
Speaker 2: mir key we Rail was running the whole thing. Will
30:00
Speaker 2: they have one if the project does come out cheaper, well, at.
30:04
Speaker 12: Won't come out cheaper. I mean already there's nearly half
30:06
Speaker 12: a billion dollars in sunk costs. The cancelation fee, which
30:09
Speaker 12: will be upwards north of three hundred million. We still
30:12
Speaker 12: don't know what that is and they're still negotiating that
30:15
Speaker 12: well into next year. The actual cost of the series
30:18
Speaker 12: on top of that, the addition will increase, and maintenance
30:21
Speaker 12: of the fleet that now has to continue to run
30:23
Speaker 12: through to twenty twenty nine, and then of course the
30:26
Speaker 12: port side developments which they are pushing that cost on
30:29
Speaker 12: to rate payers and others. So this actual envelope will
30:31
Speaker 12: continue to skyrocket, and they didn't give us any indication
30:35
Speaker 12: as to what that final figure would look like yesterday
30:37
Speaker 12: as part of the announcement Eiver.
30:39
Speaker 2: Tell you ty Kevy, I, thank you so much for
30:41
Speaker 2: your time today, tann you Ti Kelly, chief Whip and
30:42
Speaker 2: also Labour's transport spokesperson. And somebody saying, well, is that
30:46
Speaker 2: a bias commentator. Yes, he's from labor that's his point
30:49
Speaker 2: of view. We've found out what Labour's point of view is.
30:51
Speaker 2: We heard yesterday what National's point of view is, and
30:53
Speaker 2: you're going to hear about everybody's point of view over
30:55
Speaker 2: the course of the next day. That's called cabin seeing
30:58
Speaker 2: all sides. That's called the media, that's called us story.
31:03
Speaker 2: It is a minister six and am I too early
31:07
Speaker 2: for this?
31:07
Speaker 9: Am?
31:08
Speaker 2: Is Heather ready? Is Heather ready?
31:10
Speaker 3: Heather?
31:10
Speaker 2: Are you ready? We'll find out well, I'll do a
31:12
Speaker 2: name break.
31:14
Speaker 1: Andrew Dickens, on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
31:18
Speaker 1: furniture Beds and applying store news talk, saidby.
31:21
Speaker 2: I've got a few texts about the shooter in America.
31:24
Speaker 2: Someone rightes, Oh, this is Paul, it says to me,
31:27
Speaker 2: So Andrew, he was fed up with corporate America but
31:29
Speaker 2: was caught eating at McDonald's. Yes, Paul irony is rich.
31:33
Speaker 2: Other people are complaining about the fact they used his name.
31:36
Speaker 2: He's a shooter, he's a murderer, alleged. But you know
31:38
Speaker 2: we all saw the video. So I will not name
31:41
Speaker 2: the man anymore, even though his name. Come on, get it,
31:44
Speaker 2: come offis louis so nice to say?
31:46
Speaker 13: Why are we doing that thing? Where if we pretend
31:49
Speaker 13: that if some of us don't say the name, somehow
31:52
Speaker 13: what he doesn't exist anymo.
31:53
Speaker 2: Know you also have to click your heels three times.
31:55
Speaker 3: It's bizarre.
31:58
Speaker 13: You just send it to that about the Christian shoot
32:00
Speaker 13: it and arm.
32:01
Speaker 2: And another text Andrew, these are ships, not boats. Stop
32:04
Speaker 2: saying boats. Ships are bigger, better and also more expensive,
32:07
Speaker 2: and that's good. That's good for you as well.
32:09
Speaker 13: Yes, vessels, vessels, vessels, So that I sound like I
32:12
Speaker 13: know what I'm talking about.
32:14
Speaker 2: So everyone's talking about the fairies.
32:15
Speaker 13: Yeah, well, that's an unfortunate decision there yesterday, wasn't it.
32:18
Speaker 13: I mean, that was incredibly embarrassing. So we'll have a
32:21
Speaker 13: little bit of a chat about that. I don't know
32:22
Speaker 13: if you've caught this, but it's been reported on zeb
32:25
Speaker 13: that what's actually happened as Nichola has signed it has
32:27
Speaker 13: hammered out a deal anyway. So she's got a couple
32:30
Speaker 13: of fairies she wants to buy about two hundred meters long,
32:33
Speaker 13: nine hundred million bucks, and Winnie Pee wants to be
32:36
Speaker 13: able to better that. That seems to be what's going on.
32:38
Speaker 13: So he's going to go out and stand.
32:39
Speaker 2: So it's like he wants to play a better hands.
32:41
Speaker 2: But the funny thing is he's also got a hand
32:43
Speaker 2: already in the bush, so to speak, so that if
32:46
Speaker 2: he can't find the better hand, he cans talk about
32:48
Speaker 2: and go, look, I have these fairies, and Nicola will
32:50
Speaker 2: just sit there going, well, I gave him to you,
32:52
Speaker 2: and but you know, we're all sweet and happy here.
32:54
Speaker 13: He wins either way, right, he wins either way, and
32:56
Speaker 13: it's all bad for bets.
32:58
Speaker 2: But then they go through all this period today and
33:00
Speaker 2: were and last night where everyone's going they're useless. Announced
33:03
Speaker 2: another an announcement.
33:04
Speaker 13: Yeah, but it's a couple of weeks before Christmas, so
33:06
Speaker 13: it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter too much.
33:07
Speaker 2: Right, Please tell me you're going to talk about something
33:09
Speaker 2: other than fairy sorry ships.
33:12
Speaker 13: See, the Saudi Arabians have just been announced as the
33:14
Speaker 13: host country for the People World Cups. That's gonna flip
33:17
Speaker 13: some lids, isn't it.
33:17
Speaker 2: It is rather and we came in and Elliott was
33:20
Speaker 2: talking about it, and then Elliott just casually says, I
33:22
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to get the Women's World Cup.
33:25
Speaker 13: So I did a Google search. If I was to
33:27
Speaker 13: go in twenty thirty four for whatever reason and watch
33:29
Speaker 13: the football World Cup in Saudi Arabia, I don't have
33:32
Speaker 13: to wear a burker, So it's okay for the women.
33:34
Speaker 2: If you were playing in a Women's World Cup, would
33:37
Speaker 2: you have to play on the field?
33:38
Speaker 13: In the booker God, so he knows it's never gonna happen.
33:41
Speaker 13: They don't want us ladies running around on a field anyway.
33:43
Speaker 13: We've got a better things to do, like be in
33:45
Speaker 13: the kitchen.
33:45
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course. But look it just shows in
33:48
Speaker 2: money Rules, Money rules, and guess where the next America's
33:50
Speaker 2: Cup is going to be? Money rules, Money rules, money rules,
33:53
Speaker 2: and times Person of the Year is announced at some
33:54
Speaker 2: stage this morning?
33:56
Speaker 13: Is it this morning?
33:56
Speaker 2: I think so Thursday? The Thursday I was saying, so cool,
34:00
Speaker 2: So here we go.
34:01
Speaker 13: Obviously going to be Kate, isn't it?
34:03
Speaker 2: It's Kate or Bebe or no? No. Apparently Donald's eighty
34:07
Speaker 2: three percent probable according to the betting agencies. Anyway, my
34:11
Speaker 2: thanks to Leo the producer. I'm Andrew Dickins to you tomorrow.
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