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An Exercise in Patience with Ben Bruno · Life Will Be the Death of Me with Chelsea Handler

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Chelsea Handler. Welcome to Life Will Be the
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Speaker 1: Death of Me, a production of I Heart Radio. Hi everybody,
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Speaker 1: we're here in studio this week. Instead of giving you
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Speaker 1: another stand up show, I thought we would give you
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Speaker 1: an in studio interview with my personal trainer. Brandon's here,
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Speaker 1: my personal assistant. Brandon. Are you an executive assistant now
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Speaker 1: or are you a secretary? Okay? And Bernice, it's all
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Speaker 1: of the bees, Ben, Bruno, Bernice, Brandon, and bitch Ben.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for sitting down with us today. That's actually how
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Speaker 1: I have you programmed in my cell phone? Oh? Really?
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Speaker 1: I thought it was kunt Nope. Good to know. He's
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Speaker 1: my personal trainer and he is also a friend. A
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Speaker 1: lot of people think that we have penetrated each other,
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Speaker 1: so we'd like to clarify at the top of this
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Speaker 1: podcast that that is not the case. That Ben is Ben.
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Speaker 1: Are you currently single? Ben is single and available? I
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Speaker 1: am single and available. Um Brandon are in a relationship? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so two out of three UM live ones? Correct live ones? Anyway,
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Speaker 1: I just got just mean we're actively like available, like
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Speaker 1: it's not for each other. Three out of three live ones. Well, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he's taken he has a love but we're not. He's
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Speaker 1: on a live one like he's not out there looking
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Speaker 1: to get some action. I get it. I know that
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Speaker 1: you're out there looking to get action, right, Yes, I
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Speaker 1: am also looking to get action. Are we going to
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Speaker 1: put my cell in the podcast? No? No, we'll put
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Speaker 1: your address on it. Um. I just got back from London.
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Speaker 1: I went and I saw Wimbledon. I saw a bunch
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Speaker 1: of people play tennis, which I love. I love going
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Speaker 1: to London for Wimbledon. It's one of the most civilized
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Speaker 1: sporting events and and it's civilized. Well just watching it
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Speaker 1: is just a civilized experience being at Wimbledon because I
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Speaker 1: have a royal problem with I know you love football
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Speaker 1: basketball because you train a lot of those guys to
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Speaker 1: Wimbledon's actually on my action not with a T. It's
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Speaker 1: wimbled and with a D. Wimble done. I can't even
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Speaker 1: say it right now, that's the right way, wimble Ton done.
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Speaker 1: Whatever is on my bucket list of sporting events. That
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Speaker 1: and the Masters are the next two that I want
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Speaker 1: to check up. And the Masters is golf. Masters is golf? Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't need to see that. Do you have a
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Speaker 1: preference for sporting events, Brandon not one. I love to
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Speaker 1: go to a live supporting event, but I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to watch anything on TV. Okay, well, we had a
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Speaker 1: huge victory for the US with the Women's Cup, and
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Speaker 1: that is something that I could watch over and over
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Speaker 1: and over again. Even though I don't understand soccer. I
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Speaker 1: don't get any of the plays. I just know when
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Speaker 1: somebody makes a goal. The problem with soccer, though, when
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Speaker 1: you say that, I'm with you, is that in a
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Speaker 1: ninety minute game, there's like one to two goals and
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Speaker 1: they always seem to happen when you like get up
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Speaker 1: to take a piss or something like that. So the
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Speaker 1: most of the time you're watching the game, they just
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Speaker 1: kick it down, they shoot miss, there's a corner kick,
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Speaker 1: they go back the other way like nothing happens. That's
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Speaker 1: the tricky part for me with soccer. I feel like
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Speaker 1: soccer is on the sports to where you have to
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Speaker 1: have played it to really enjoy it. Like if you
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Speaker 1: go to watch it, you're not just going to a
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Speaker 1: football game, like have a beer and watch what happens soccer.
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Speaker 1: Those are committed people. But I used to play soccer,
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Speaker 1: but I still feel because there aren't a ton of
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Speaker 1: goals except the US running up to score in the
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Speaker 1: first in the first round. But for the most part,
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Speaker 1: it's one to two goals and you know, then a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of jogging around nothing. Well, I mean it's
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Speaker 1: but it's the most watched. Yeah, I mean, people love
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Speaker 1: women soccer. People love it more than men right now too. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm firmly on the bandwagon. Yeah, why would
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Speaker 1: There's nothing not to love for men and women. It's
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Speaker 1: got everything for something for everybody. This is their fourth
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Speaker 1: consecutive title. I don't know about that. It's their second
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Speaker 1: consecutive title, do you know, Ben, I don't. I don't.
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Speaker 1: I mean when I say I'm firmly on the bandwagon,
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Speaker 1: I was firmly on the bandwagon four years ago too.
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Speaker 1: For like, who's your favorite player? Well, I mean Megan
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Speaker 1: Rapino is a study. Um, Alex Morgan is stud to study. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: she's probably my favorite. Well, yeah, I like how viciferous
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Speaker 1: Megan Rapino is. I like really okay for Alex Morgan? Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: I'll see if she contacts us and we can let
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Speaker 1: you know. Um, we brought you here specifically today, So anyway,
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Speaker 1: we first of all. Anyways, first of all, I want
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Speaker 1: to say congratulations, and I want to say that every
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Speaker 1: victory like this is so great for women. And this
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Speaker 1: has been happening a long time, but uh with women's soccer,
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Speaker 1: but it's really great to see it, especially when we
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Speaker 1: have such uh, such competitive women. I mean, we are
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Speaker 1: the best soccer team right now, right in the US.
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Speaker 1: But we won one seems like so easily. Each country.
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Speaker 1: It was like a gold and a half because it
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Speaker 1: was we won, but it was like a beat down
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Speaker 1: every Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about working out because
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Speaker 1: how long? How long have I known You've been a
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Speaker 1: lot of people are curious about our workouts and people
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Speaker 1: say I look really good. So I want to say
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Speaker 1: thank you because I know you know that I don't
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Speaker 1: always feel that way, that I'm very hard on myself,
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Speaker 1: and that I don't always take compliments very well well
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Speaker 1: at all. Okay, so when did we start working out together?
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Speaker 1: We started working out I remember March of two thousand
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Speaker 1: and fifteen, so that's like four half years. It's it's
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Speaker 1: like the trainer equivalent of common law. It's been a while, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of like trainers out here in
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Speaker 1: l A. And so I was very averse to having
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Speaker 1: one of those celebrity type trainers that trains a lot
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Speaker 1: of celebrities because I don't like that action. I like
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Speaker 1: to be on the d L. You do train other celebrities,
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Speaker 1: but you don't seem to be an asshole about it.
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Speaker 1: I try try not to be an asshole. Brandon, do
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Speaker 1: you think Ben's an asshole? No? Ben is the nicest
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Speaker 1: guy around, nicer than you. Well, I don't know. That's
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Speaker 1: a tough call, but Ben, do you think Brandon's nice?
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Speaker 1: Brandon is really nice? Thanks Ben. Earlier you mentioned that
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Speaker 1: he does train a lot of athletes, and what is
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Speaker 1: the difference in that clientele because it's pretty specific and
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Speaker 1: you don't talk about a lot of your celebrity clients,
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Speaker 1: but you do post a lot about your athletes. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, well, uh, the thing about training athletes, my
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Speaker 1: background is actually training athletes before I moved to l A.
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Speaker 1: That's mostly what I did. And And where were you
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Speaker 1: before l A? Right outside of Boston, Luburn, Massachusetts. And
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Speaker 1: the thing about training athletes in l all So, to backtrack,
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Speaker 1: in Boston, I trained a mix of pro athletes, but
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Speaker 1: it was mostly year round. It was middle school, high school,
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Speaker 1: and Kyle of athletes, and in l A now it's
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Speaker 1: just pro athletes. So that means that when I say
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Speaker 1: that I train athletes, it's like for two or three
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Speaker 1: months out of the year and then the rest of
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Speaker 1: the time they're in season doing their thing. It's just
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Speaker 1: in the off season. So it's not like I'm training
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Speaker 1: the year round. The clients like Chelsea that live here,
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Speaker 1: it's year round. And so when you look at somebody
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Speaker 1: like me, because there's a big fallacy that women can't
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Speaker 1: lift weights because we're gonna get bulky, and you've shown
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Speaker 1: me that that's not true because I lift heavy weights
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Speaker 1: and I'm smaller than I have been my entire life
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Speaker 1: working out, and that's true for other clients of yours,
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Speaker 1: like kd Upton says the same thing, that she lifts heavy,
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Speaker 1: heavy weights and she's thinner than she's ever been. Um,
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Speaker 1: and you, so, what what is that? What is the
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Speaker 1: philosophy there to explain to women to not be scared,
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Speaker 1: not be scared of weights Because I was scared of
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Speaker 1: weights and I thought cardio was the way. And what
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Speaker 1: I've discovered is the less cardio I do the more weights,
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Speaker 1: the leaner I am. Well, I think a lot of
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Speaker 1: women are scared to lift weights, understandably so because a
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Speaker 1: lot of the programs out there come from guys, and
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Speaker 1: a lot of the guys that train women train the
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Speaker 1: women like they would train themselves. And I think that
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Speaker 1: when I talk about strength training for women, I'm not
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Speaker 1: talking about doing tons of bench press and that type
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Speaker 1: of stuff. It focuses on the areas that women want
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Speaker 1: to focus on. And when I you know, and the
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Speaker 1: thing now is like I do personal training, So the
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Speaker 1: workouts you do are different than some of the other
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Speaker 1: women I trained because of the areas you're trying to
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Speaker 1: focus on and your injury history and all that type
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Speaker 1: of stuff. But the thing about the weights is that
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Speaker 1: I don't think women always really realize. The word that
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Speaker 1: I hear a lot is they want to be toned
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Speaker 1: instead of like guys say, like jacked or whatever. Women
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Speaker 1: want to be toned, but like tone. When you hear
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Speaker 1: a guy come in and say I want to get jacked,
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Speaker 1: do you want to punch him in the face? I mean,
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Speaker 1: that would be real douchy. I've thankfully I've never really
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Speaker 1: had anybody say that. Maybe I have actually had people
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Speaker 1: say that, but because sometimes it seems like the week
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Speaker 1: the workouts you get up to on the weekends with
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Speaker 1: your buddies seemed very gerilla ish. Yeah, I I have
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Speaker 1: that inner meat head in me that I kind of
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Speaker 1: have to channel. You know, I used to be actually
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Speaker 1: before you met me, I was way more of a
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Speaker 1: meathead and then I've kind of become a little bit
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Speaker 1: soft since I moved to l A. But I still
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Speaker 1: have that meathead in me. Do you think that's the
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Speaker 1: thing people come becomes soft when they moved to l
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Speaker 1: A totally? And yeah, exactly. I mean it's happened to me.
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Speaker 1: I drink like greens juice and ship like things that
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Speaker 1: I would have like I want to kick my own
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Speaker 1: ass sometimes, Like for the things I'm doing now, it's
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Speaker 1: just hard to do. I haven't figured out a way. Um. Yeah, no,
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Speaker 1: I've definitely changed. I don't think I'm like a huge,
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Speaker 1: huge pussy yet, but it's like I'm more so than
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Speaker 1: I was when I moved here. But you're right, the workouts,
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Speaker 1: it's funny. I spend my whole I don't know if
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Speaker 1: it's funny. I say that too much, but it's not
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Speaker 1: funny at all, but thank you, because I don't want
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Speaker 1: the listeners looking forward to something funny. So I spend
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Speaker 1: my whole day with clients being somewhat of a mom
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Speaker 1: and being very um, you know, overly cautious with what
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Speaker 1: I have them do. I really don't want to hurt
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Speaker 1: my clients, which you know you shouldn't want to hurt
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Speaker 1: your clients. But then what makes me happy as far
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Speaker 1: as training is like doing all the stupid ship that
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Speaker 1: I tell my clients not to do, so, you know,
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Speaker 1: sort of when everybody goes home, then that's like when
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Speaker 1: my buddies come over and I do, you know, questionably
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Speaker 1: reckless things that I just want to do. On the
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Speaker 1: subject of moving to l a m becoming more, I
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Speaker 1: guess of a pussy, right, because we all we all
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Speaker 1: have I have to say that I said that, and
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Speaker 1: then I almost didn't say it because sometimes when I
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Speaker 1: say that, women say that that's a really mean thing,
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Speaker 1: and I shouldn't say that, So you don't I don't mean.
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Speaker 1: I don't mean that in the mean way. I love pussy, Okay, Brandon,
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Speaker 1: do you love pussy? Not in the same way, right,
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Speaker 1: So let's just get that off the table right now,
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Speaker 1: or on the table. Actually, let's get it off the
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Speaker 1: table right. So, Brandon, you have you taken some workout
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Speaker 1: tips from Ben? Because I know that you guys come,
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Speaker 1: you come in and try, and you know Ben's always
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Speaker 1: willing to help. I trying to not cross that line
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Speaker 1: and when you find someone who has a specific professions
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Speaker 1: like asking a doctor for medical advice all the time.
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Speaker 1: But he has given me good tips, He's given me supplements.
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Speaker 1: He's because Brett, Bret Brandon works out like a lunatic
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Speaker 1: more than I do. He's jacked. Yeah, you're what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I don't but I don't like it. But I think
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Speaker 1: that's one of those like body this morph your things.
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Speaker 1: You look at it, and as you get bigger, you
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Speaker 1: don't see it the same way. When you get thinner.
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Speaker 1: It's harder to realize until someone's like, oh, you look
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Speaker 1: really thin today, and then it's like, oh, that's the
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Speaker 1: affirmation that you need that you're doing the right thing.
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you said really quick,
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Speaker 1: because you said that like you never want to hurt
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Speaker 1: anyone that you train, But what does that threshold like
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Speaker 1: When Chelsea says that she wants to like either tone
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Speaker 1: or tighten a certain area, Like how do you know
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Speaker 1: how far to push it still making them uncomfortable to
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Speaker 1: get better but not hurting them obviously. Well, that's a
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Speaker 1: great question because when you're a personal trainer. I'm friends
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Speaker 1: with a lot of physical therapists and we always talk
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Speaker 1: about how our jobs are seemingly similar, but they're very
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Speaker 1: different because nobody comes to me to address their injuries.
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Speaker 1: They come to me to if they're an athlete and
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Speaker 1: you know, improve their performance or most people, it's more aesthetic,
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Speaker 1: you know, or or health or what. But most most
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Speaker 1: of the time it's aesthetic. And to get in really
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Speaker 1: really good shape, you have to train really really hard
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Speaker 1: and push your body, but you can't get hurt. You
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Speaker 1: know that the easiest way to get out of shape
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Speaker 1: is to get hurt and not be able to train.
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Speaker 1: And my clients always come to me wanting to push
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Speaker 1: it hard and getting good shape and things, and I
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Speaker 1: am sometimes I'm very conservative because having hurt myself and
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Speaker 1: had gone and I've actually had a couple of surgeries,
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Speaker 1: that's when you get out of shape. But my clients
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Speaker 1: don't always like see that. So, like Chelsea, sometimes feels
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Speaker 1: like I ask her too much how she's feeling, or
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Speaker 1: she wants to work through things when I want to
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Speaker 1: let it rest because I kind of know like in
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Speaker 1: the moment, they don't think about getting hurt, but I
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Speaker 1: know like if you get hurt, then you know that
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Speaker 1: sucks and that puts your life on hold. So safety
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Speaker 1: is kind of like the underlying thing of any program.
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, yeah, you do have to
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Speaker 1: train really really hard to get results. You know, it's
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Speaker 1: um but I also think that the you know, like
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Speaker 1: I I've been talking this whole podcast and my tour
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Speaker 1: of it has been a lot of therapy talk. I
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Speaker 1: think the to go hand in hand a lot because
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Speaker 1: I think becoming really physical, Like I used to look
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Speaker 1: at physical fitness as a necessary evil, like I just
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Speaker 1: had to do it to remain thin because I was
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Speaker 1: on TV all the time. Now I look at as
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Speaker 1: a mental necessity because to stay fit physically is linked
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Speaker 1: with staying fit emotionally and staying fit mentally. Like the
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Speaker 1: to go hand in hand. So when when when you
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Speaker 1: when I don't feel strong physically, it affects me mentally,
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Speaker 1: and I want to feel strong in both areas and
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Speaker 1: those two things. People say that to you, I think
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Speaker 1: a lot when you're learning about fitness or you're getting
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Speaker 1: into fitness, and you're like, yeah, funk off, but it's
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Speaker 1: so true. Oh, it's so true. Well for me, I've
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Speaker 1: always said that working out is like therapy for me,
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Speaker 1: and I've always met that. I used to literally just
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Speaker 1: work out. I didn't go to therapy. Now I do both.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, we both go to there and we meditated
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Speaker 1: together the other day on the lawn right in the sunshine.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't that nice? Yeah? And then Ben fell asleep for
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Speaker 1: two hours. If that gives you any indication of his personality,
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Speaker 1: I just passed right out. What I was going to say, though,
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Speaker 1: is I think you know, guys tend to get a
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Speaker 1: default emotion is like anger, piste off. But a lot
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Speaker 1: of guys that I know feel similar literally to me,
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Speaker 1: that when they're piste off, that you know, doing a
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Speaker 1: really hard workout and turning on angry music and you know,
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Speaker 1: lifting really heavy weights just somehow makes you feel better, right,
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Speaker 1: you know? Do you feel that way when you work out? Like,
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Speaker 1: if you're angry, do you want to go work out?
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Speaker 1: I'm stoned a lot when I work out so it
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Speaker 1: helps me I deal with ben and then be It
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Speaker 1: helps me really focus on the workout and then I
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Speaker 1: get really strong, like the couple of times i've been
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Speaker 1: really stoned. Remember, you've had good workouts. I've had great
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Speaker 1: workout So now I know. Okay, you know, and I've
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Speaker 1: had good workouts when you're stone because you tend to
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Speaker 1: be nicer to me, which I appreciate. Right, Okay, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess you're welcome. Thank you. I want to ask
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Speaker 1: you a question about therapy because you never went to
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Speaker 1: therapy until you moved to California. Right. I did twice,
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Speaker 1: but I was over two. It was never stuck. And
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Speaker 1: so what made you want to go to therapy? I
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Speaker 1: like when men talk about therapy, so I think it's
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Speaker 1: important for us to discuss it a little bit. What
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Speaker 1: made you decide to bite the bullet and find a
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Speaker 1: therapist here? Well, I first went to therapy against my
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Speaker 1: will when I was like ten, and my my dad
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Speaker 1: committed suicide when I was nine. And that's really tricky
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Speaker 1: to figure out at any age, I think, but it's
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Speaker 1: I know. All I can say is that it's really
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Speaker 1: tricky to figure out when you're ten and I was
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Speaker 1: put in therapy with more of like a psychiatrist, and
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Speaker 1: also wanted to give me medicine, and I didn't like
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Speaker 1: the medicine. I didn't like talking about stuff, and so
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Speaker 1: I basically stopped going. As soon as I convinced my
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Speaker 1: mom to stop going, I just and I never bought in.
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Speaker 1: I used to with my psychiatrists. We would just play
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Speaker 1: cards and stuff like that, and I would very rarely
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Speaker 1: talk about anything. The second time I went to therapy,
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Speaker 1: I went through a really bad depression for like two years,
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Speaker 1: to the point that because I think my dad committed suicide,
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Speaker 1: I always vowed I would never do that because it
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Speaker 1: seems like a really frankly, just a cowardly thing to
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Speaker 1: do two people that love you. But I used to
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Speaker 1: really when I was like nineteen and twenty, I used
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Speaker 1: to like look at people that got in fatal car
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Speaker 1: accidents and think like lucky bastard, because I just felt
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Speaker 1: really in pain all the time, and I didn't think
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Speaker 1: I was going to get better, and I couldn't drive,
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Speaker 1: and I felt very isolated because my friends were in school,
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Speaker 1: and you know, you're kind of out of sight, out
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Speaker 1: of mind, so I just felt very lonely, and my
16:57
Speaker 1: day consisted of this is prett. Netflix would buy like
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Speaker 1: box sets of like The Sopranos and The Wire and
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Speaker 1: stuff and just watch them and just try to kill
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Speaker 1: the day. So I actually went back to church and
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Speaker 1: I didn't like that, and I tried therapy again. And
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Speaker 1: did you go on antidepressants that time? No? I did
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Speaker 1: when I was ten, and I just like didn't want
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Speaker 1: to take him up. So I have an interesting stance
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Speaker 1: on antidepressants, interesting to me anyways that we can get into.
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Speaker 1: But I went to this therapy, but I wasn't open
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Speaker 1: to therapy, and so for somebody, I have a really
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Speaker 1: hard time and I still do with my current therapy.
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Speaker 1: I have a hard time talking about feelings because I
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Speaker 1: think I tend to be somebody that's kind of literal,
17:34
Speaker 1: and when people ask me questions that are therapy ish,
17:40
Speaker 1: it feels very weird to me, and so I don't
17:42
Speaker 1: really know how to answer. Are you able to get
17:44
Speaker 1: emotional in front of your therapist? I don't know. No,
17:48
Speaker 1: I thinking now, I don't think I ever have. UM.
17:52
Speaker 1: I've got emotional very few times. I can remember them all,
17:55
Speaker 1: but it's always like random with friends and stuff. Like
17:57
Speaker 1: that therapy feels very tricky to me. Um, and so
18:01
Speaker 1: I didn't really like it that much when I was
18:05
Speaker 1: twenty and then life kind of just chugged along. And
18:10
Speaker 1: then I went back to if this is two November
18:14
Speaker 1: of two thousand seventeen, I started it back up, and
18:18
Speaker 1: that is, Um, it's almost two years now, but it happens. Yeah,
18:25
Speaker 1: And I think the key to the key to it
18:26
Speaker 1: is that when you're open minded, things come to you
18:30
Speaker 1: when you break, like you know, me going to therapy
18:32
Speaker 1: open my mind, because at first I was shut down,
18:34
Speaker 1: and then I became more and more open, and then
18:37
Speaker 1: then I'm open to what meditation and then I'm open
18:39
Speaker 1: to listening to a podcast like Oprah Super Soul, which
18:42
Speaker 1: five years ago I wouldn't have listened to. I wouldn't
18:45
Speaker 1: have had the time for. I think being open minded
18:47
Speaker 1: it helps in every way, you know, with regard to fitness,
18:51
Speaker 1: with regard toss therapy, it's like, okay, I have something
18:53
Speaker 1: to learn here. To assume that you don't know everything
18:56
Speaker 1: and to say okay, I want to absorb everything I
18:58
Speaker 1: don't know about this topic is a great healthy way
19:01
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah. And I but I think just being
19:03
Speaker 1: open minded too. The idea of therapy is huge too,
19:07
Speaker 1: because when I first went, it was like, I don't
19:10
Speaker 1: I probably didn't tell you for like three weeks of
19:12
Speaker 1: going to therapy. I probably and and you might have
19:15
Speaker 1: been one of the earlier people I told, because you
19:18
Speaker 1: had told me about your therapy and stuff, so it
19:21
Speaker 1: felt like a safe like I honestly kind of saw
19:24
Speaker 1: it as a confession. And I didn't tell anybody in
19:27
Speaker 1: the beginning. Uh, And a couple of my friends I
19:31
Speaker 1: told them that I had a panic attack, and I
19:34
Speaker 1: remember thinking I was super embarrassed to tell them, and
19:37
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like how to describe the embarrassment.
19:40
Speaker 1: But it was kind of like I felt like my
19:42
Speaker 1: guy friends were going to be like, dude, you're soft,
19:45
Speaker 1: Like you're just so soft for doing this. Well, they're
19:48
Speaker 1: probably all in therapy. Well that's just it. There were
19:51
Speaker 1: so many of my friends because for like five days
19:54
Speaker 1: I didn't work out, and it's because my throat was
19:56
Speaker 1: like just bugging me out. I felt like I couldn't breathe,
19:59
Speaker 1: and so I didn't want to like have to breathe harder.
20:02
Speaker 1: And I remember one of my friends coming over and
20:05
Speaker 1: was like, dude, it's anxiety, like you could you can
20:08
Speaker 1: work out like you're fun And I'm like, oh, you've
20:11
Speaker 1: had this, and he was like, yeah, I've had this.
20:12
Speaker 1: Come to find out, a ton of guys that I'm
20:15
Speaker 1: friends with like go to therapy or we're like, I'd
20:18
Speaker 1: like to go to therapy if my financial situation was different.
20:22
Speaker 1: It's dope, you're doing that. Like there might be some
20:25
Speaker 1: guys out there that are like, oh, man, Ben's a
20:27
Speaker 1: huge pussy and but for the most part, I felt
20:31
Speaker 1: like a lot of people were like, dude, that's really cool.
20:34
Speaker 1: And still it's a little bit weird for me. I
20:36
Speaker 1: don't think I've actually ever even like said this publicly,
20:39
Speaker 1: but most people in my life know it now. I
20:41
Speaker 1: still feel a little weird about the idea, but it
20:45
Speaker 1: is there's so many guys that it's like, um, you know,
20:48
Speaker 1: the Emperor's new clothes, Like everyone's thinking something, but they
20:51
Speaker 1: never say it, Like I think it's that type of
20:53
Speaker 1: thing where anybody that I know has has gone through
20:58
Speaker 1: similar feelings to me. And don't think everyone's done therapy,
21:01
Speaker 1: but a lot more people have than I thought. But
21:04
Speaker 1: it's a thing that, um, I think when you talk
21:07
Speaker 1: to your friends about those type of things that makes
21:10
Speaker 1: your friendships a lot more real or meaningful. Because I
21:15
Speaker 1: remember when I came to l A. This place will
21:19
Speaker 1: teach you l A like, you know, probably more than
21:21
Speaker 1: anywhere in the world. Like money doesn't buy happiness, And
21:25
Speaker 1: I think that I've learned like it doesn't matter what
21:29
Speaker 1: your life is like on the outside, Like everyone's got
21:32
Speaker 1: ship they're dealing with, you know, a lot, even if
21:35
Speaker 1: your life is ostensibly great. You know, there's stuff that
21:39
Speaker 1: that irks people in me in real ways. And it's like,
21:43
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a job, you have stress.
21:44
Speaker 1: But it's like if you have if you have a family,
21:47
Speaker 1: like you have shipped to deal with. If you don't
21:49
Speaker 1: have a family, you have shipped to deal with. Like
21:51
Speaker 1: there's just everyone's got shipped to deal with, because I
21:54
Speaker 1: do think every everybody listening to this podcast has shipped
21:56
Speaker 1: to deal with, you know, either some people have the
21:59
Speaker 1: luxury of being able to to a therapist, which is
22:01
Speaker 1: a luxury, and some people don't. Um but it is
22:04
Speaker 1: good to hear that about a guy going to therapy
22:06
Speaker 1: because I know every woman in a relationship with a
22:09
Speaker 1: man would be happy to know that that person is
22:12
Speaker 1: in therapy and that you know there are men going
22:15
Speaker 1: and it does help and it's not stupid. I said
22:18
Speaker 1: to my cousins recently after their father passed away, that
22:21
Speaker 1: they should all go to a therapist and a grief counselor,
22:23
Speaker 1: which they were like, we don't need therapy, we don't
22:25
Speaker 1: need therapy. And they went to one session with a
22:27
Speaker 1: grief counselor and you know, five boys in the room,
22:30
Speaker 1: and every one of them came out going, oh my god,
22:32
Speaker 1: that helped us so much. So it's good to hear
22:35
Speaker 1: people talking about it. Brandon. We're gonna get you your
22:38
Speaker 1: own therapists so you can stop confiding in my bell. Okay,
22:43
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
22:47
Speaker 1: Uh So tell us how you became a trainer, first
22:49
Speaker 1: of all, So do you want the short version or
22:52
Speaker 1: the long version? Always the short version. It's going to
22:55
Speaker 1: be kind of long. I could probably tell the story
22:57
Speaker 1: for you that you were injured. Don't tell the story,
23:00
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah. So I actually was a sociology
23:03
Speaker 1: major in college and interned in finance with Raymond James
23:09
Speaker 1: and hated that. And also in college, halfway through my
23:14
Speaker 1: sophomore year, I had a back surgery that didn't go well,
23:18
Speaker 1: and I had to take two years off a medical leave,
23:20
Speaker 1: and I lost forty pounds of body weight, so I
23:23
Speaker 1: was super skinny. So I used to do this core
23:25
Speaker 1: stuff in two thousand six. I would wager a bet
23:29
Speaker 1: that I did more planks, side planks and sit ups
23:34
Speaker 1: than any human in the world in two thousand six,
23:36
Speaker 1: because will you write two thousand six down in your
23:40
Speaker 1: notes section and your on your iPhone, because that's no,
23:43
Speaker 1: that's just what I did. I ment. I just wanted
23:47
Speaker 1: to get better from this fucking surgery. And I'm somebody
23:49
Speaker 1: that if some is good, more is better. And I
23:51
Speaker 1: do that in good ways and in bad ways. It's both.
23:53
Speaker 1: I've just always somebody that takes things to the extreme,
23:57
Speaker 1: you know. And I would do sets of like hundreds
23:59
Speaker 1: of sit up and ship and now, like, you're not
24:02
Speaker 1: even supposed to do sit ups if you have a
24:03
Speaker 1: bad back. I didn't know, So I just did a
24:05
Speaker 1: fucking shipload of everything, like I just read, you know,
24:08
Speaker 1: That's how I've always been. But I was giving long
24:10
Speaker 1: story short, I was giving people advice. Some of it
24:12
Speaker 1: was shitty advice, and I just really liked that. So
24:16
Speaker 1: I connected the guy who I worked under at Raymond
24:20
Speaker 1: James connected me with a trainer who trained his sons
24:24
Speaker 1: for football, and that guy offered me a job. I
24:28
Speaker 1: kind of parlayed finance into a training job. And then
24:30
Speaker 1: it turned out that this guy was a real douche
24:33
Speaker 1: bag and pulled the rug out from under me. I
24:35
Speaker 1: hope he hears this too. I hate that guy. Well,
24:37
Speaker 1: why don't give him a shout out? Yeah? I don't
24:38
Speaker 1: want to call him out, but I would. We could
24:40
Speaker 1: give him a shout out if you could land the
24:42
Speaker 1: fucking plan on this story instead of going on and
24:45
Speaker 1: on he said, I was going to be the abridged version.
24:47
Speaker 1: It's a bridge dish. I could have gone longer. What
24:49
Speaker 1: about boundaries? Did you want to ask him about boundaries? Brandon,
24:54
Speaker 1: I'm not great with boundaries, do you? How do you
24:56
Speaker 1: set boundaries for you and your clients? Because obviously you yes, uh,
25:02
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think I'm great with boundaries. I
25:05
Speaker 1: think that's um. I have a bit of a different
25:08
Speaker 1: training business because I don't have a gym and staff
25:12
Speaker 1: or anything like that, you know, and and most of
25:14
Speaker 1: my clients have trained for as long as we've trained,
25:18
Speaker 1: you know, and um we and we we see each
25:20
Speaker 1: other quite often. So well, I'm your worst client, though
25:23
Speaker 1: you would say, right, or do you have about the
25:26
Speaker 1: worst one than? I mean, you don't have to mention
25:27
Speaker 1: anyone else's names. No, I don't have to because you're
25:30
Speaker 1: the worst, like by far? What constitutes me being your
25:33
Speaker 1: worst client? Just? I mean, can I really be honest?
25:38
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes I just wish that I had a
25:42
Speaker 1: security camera in my gym that could with audio, that
25:45
Speaker 1: I could just let people know a normal day workout,
25:49
Speaker 1: because I think, like when people see our Instagram videos
25:53
Speaker 1: and you're chewing me out, I think like this is
25:56
Speaker 1: nothing compared to just the normal day of like like
26:01
Speaker 1: you know, so just so people get an idea. Chelsea
26:04
Speaker 1: will walk in and I'll say, hey, how are you doing?
26:07
Speaker 1: And She'll go, why the fund do you always ask
26:10
Speaker 1: me how I'm doing? I just saw you yesterday, not
26:12
Speaker 1: like nothing's happened, Like why would you even say that?
26:14
Speaker 1: Like why would you even ask me how I'm doing?
26:17
Speaker 1: And I just sit there and think, like for split second,
26:21
Speaker 1: just because of her tone, I think like, oh God,
26:23
Speaker 1: I did something wrong, like I fucked up. And then
26:25
Speaker 1: I think, and I didn't funk up. She's just kind
26:27
Speaker 1: of a bit right now, like it just doesn't know.
26:30
Speaker 1: You're right. In my defense, you you do say hey,
26:33
Speaker 1: how you doing three or four times at the beginning
26:36
Speaker 1: of every workout, So by the third or third or
26:38
Speaker 1: four time, I want you to stop, not three or four,
26:40
Speaker 1: but and then and then. For example, when we talk
26:44
Speaker 1: about how I trained clients, most people, I will just
26:47
Speaker 1: simply ask them for their feedback, like how are you feeling?
26:50
Speaker 1: Does anything hurt? Like basic stuff that gives me info
26:54
Speaker 1: to whatever. Chelsea doesn't want to answer, like does anything
26:58
Speaker 1: like annoys her? If I ask how she's feeling, like
27:01
Speaker 1: if or if I say to something hurt, she'll be
27:03
Speaker 1: like she just like doesn't even say anything. She just
27:05
Speaker 1: goes like in this way of like I'm super annoying.
27:09
Speaker 1: So I don't have the info to even like, no
27:11
Speaker 1: what to do, right, But you have to understand that
27:14
Speaker 1: if something is hurting me, I'll probably come I'll lead
27:16
Speaker 1: with that, yeah, but you you don't though, yeah, but
27:19
Speaker 1: you'll say, like, for example, you know, my shoulder hurts,
27:22
Speaker 1: and then I'll go, you know, I'm kind of captain obvious,
27:25
Speaker 1: so you'll go my my shoulder hurts, and I'll go, okay,
27:27
Speaker 1: well like lay off your shoulder and you're like no, no, no,
27:30
Speaker 1: but I need to do like shoulder And I'm like,
27:32
Speaker 1: well this you don't want to be hurt, Like I
27:34
Speaker 1: don't want to tell you don't want to be you know, no, Well,
27:37
Speaker 1: I will say, when something's really bothering me, is there
27:40
Speaker 1: a way to work around it? Is there a way
27:43
Speaker 1: to do something with my shoulder that's not going to
27:45
Speaker 1: exasperate it, because I always exacerbate exasperate. Anyways, up top
27:55
Speaker 1: there you go. What about for people? Oh and the
27:59
Speaker 1: other reason that you're that the worst is you think
28:04
Speaker 1: we've done over a thousand workouts. We probably have. Um,
28:07
Speaker 1: it feels like it's probably we've done over a thousand,
28:09
Speaker 1: and there hasn't been one. There hasn't been one of
28:11
Speaker 1: those one thousand. We'll just say it's two thousand where
28:14
Speaker 1: we have made a time and stuck to that time.
28:16
Speaker 1: I've never met somebody that's not that's and that's a
28:19
Speaker 1: that's an exaggeration, and that's the right word for that exaggeration. Well,
28:23
Speaker 1: there's been a very few times, so like, yeah, you're
28:27
Speaker 1: you're a lot. I do change my schedule around all
28:30
Speaker 1: the time, and you're and you have no boundaries. I
28:32
Speaker 1: will exactly exactly, so it's kind but I will say
28:36
Speaker 1: as far as a client, uh, I kind of want
28:40
Speaker 1: you to close your ears because I don't like to
28:41
Speaker 1: be nice to your face. But you are the strongest
28:44
Speaker 1: client I have with core stuff. Like it's funny because
28:47
Speaker 1: you always like tell me I don't know how to
28:49
Speaker 1: do apps and you do ship that like a lot
28:51
Speaker 1: of people a lot of men can't even do. And
28:54
Speaker 1: you hear that, Brandon, I'm listening. You're also the best
28:58
Speaker 1: and I actually mean this literally the best uh at
29:02
Speaker 1: you know, the exercise that you actually like, but it's
29:05
Speaker 1: like the most hate ubiquitously hated exercise in the world.
29:09
Speaker 1: The it's called were foot elevated split squads with your
29:11
Speaker 1: back on the bench. Every listener is probably listening like
29:14
Speaker 1: fun that exercise, but you actually like it and are
29:17
Speaker 1: the strongest woman I've ever trained on rear foot elevated splits.
29:21
Speaker 1: What I would like to say to all women listening
29:24
Speaker 1: is that any exercise that looks so like brutal or hard,
29:29
Speaker 1: or that you don't want to tackle, when you do
29:31
Speaker 1: do it, and all you have to do is rehabituate yourself.
29:34
Speaker 1: If you make a commitment to yourself to say, hey,
29:36
Speaker 1: I'm going to do these workouts, you start to enjoy
29:38
Speaker 1: your workouts. You don't hate them every single time. Sure
29:40
Speaker 1: their days where you wake up and you're hungover or
29:43
Speaker 1: you don't feel like working out, but if you push
29:45
Speaker 1: through that stuff, it just becomes away. It's like breathing.
29:49
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I don't feel right unless I work out.
29:51
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what kind of shape on me in
29:53
Speaker 1: that day. That to get in and like move your
29:55
Speaker 1: body helps you maintain happiness throughout the day and maintain
29:59
Speaker 1: entergy g throughout the day. So all of it is like,
30:02
Speaker 1: you know, it's all of the things that I hate,
30:05
Speaker 1: and I'm right there with all of you and I'm like, oh,
30:07
Speaker 1: I can't do that, But I have to tell you
30:09
Speaker 1: it pays off and it does work in your life
30:12
Speaker 1: in a way. It adds something to your life in
30:15
Speaker 1: a way that you know, I can always keep up
30:17
Speaker 1: with guys no matter what I'm doing, whether it's skiing,
30:20
Speaker 1: whether it's hiking or really good skier too. By the way,
30:23
Speaker 1: thank you, Ben, that's nice. You're a good skier too.
30:27
Speaker 1: It's well, this is nice. It's like a therapy session
30:30
Speaker 1: for us. A lot of the women that I train now,
30:33
Speaker 1: like you'll see our social media posts of them lifting
30:36
Speaker 1: heavyweights and stuff. But like it didn't start there, you know.
30:39
Speaker 1: I you know, like I kind of meet people where
30:41
Speaker 1: they're at as far as their workout and as far
30:43
Speaker 1: as like how gung ho they're trying to go and
30:46
Speaker 1: just try to, you know, make small changes. Do you
30:49
Speaker 1: tell people not to drink? Do you tell do you
30:50
Speaker 1: tell any of your clients not that you don't do well? I? Yeah,
30:53
Speaker 1: I do tell people to not to drink if you
30:56
Speaker 1: need to look your absolute best for something. By the way,
30:59
Speaker 1: if you choose to you know, not listen to me,
31:02
Speaker 1: then that's fine. But I will tell people that have
31:05
Speaker 1: to aesthetically look a certain way that drinking is not
31:08
Speaker 1: going to help with that, you know, um, but for
31:11
Speaker 1: just a lifestyle thing, you know, to me, that's like
31:14
Speaker 1: a sad way to live. But teach. Are you drinking again?
31:16
Speaker 1: I know you didn't drink for a few months because
31:17
Speaker 1: you had some issue, right, No, I didn't. Well, yeah,
31:20
Speaker 1: the answer is yes, because I got rid of this
31:23
Speaker 1: goddamn cough, but I was, yeah, it was. I googled.
31:28
Speaker 1: I just couldn't get I couldn't shake this cough and
31:31
Speaker 1: and it said that that was that caffeine and alcohol
31:36
Speaker 1: were no buenos. So I just said that and then
31:41
Speaker 1: not coughing. So what were you going to say, Brandon? Well,
31:45
Speaker 1: I was going to pay Ben a compliment because when
31:47
Speaker 1: we I know, you plowed right over me. But this
31:49
Speaker 1: was a good one I want to give. When we
31:51
Speaker 1: went to Park City, Ben went skiing with us, and
31:53
Speaker 1: I had never seen him one. I've never seen a
31:55
Speaker 1: photo of your shirtless, and your body is kind of
31:58
Speaker 1: misleading because you wear you don't wear sue for tight clothes.
32:00
Speaker 1: I would say everybody's body's misleading. Yes, you know, I
32:03
Speaker 1: mean a lot of times it's misleading. Well, Ben's was
32:06
Speaker 1: for me. Kine is definitely misleading because wine looks a
32:09
Speaker 1: lot better than I believe it is. No, and see
32:11
Speaker 1: I believe the opposite. Okay, anyway back to what you
32:14
Speaker 1: were saying. Okay, so when we were in Park City,
32:16
Speaker 1: Ben went up to hot tub and I say, sounds
32:20
Speaker 1: about right, But again, I've never seen him without a
32:22
Speaker 1: shirt on, and there's like no photo online that I've
32:24
Speaker 1: seen his body. Your abs, all those abs that you
32:27
Speaker 1: did in two thousand and six have endured because you
32:30
Speaker 1: are built like a mannequin. Like every ab is perfectly symmetrical.
32:34
Speaker 1: You look like Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. Oh
32:37
Speaker 1: wasn't it my uncle Terry that you? Oh yes, I
32:41
Speaker 1: remember this. He since passed away, so he's no longer
32:45
Speaker 1: with us. But my uncle Terry, who was over one day.
32:48
Speaker 1: Remember we went to Blue Plate Oyster it once and
32:52
Speaker 1: we had some drinks, and we had some and then
32:55
Speaker 1: we all went back to my house and you got
32:56
Speaker 1: in the pool and my uncle was sitting outside of
32:59
Speaker 1: my living I'm going, oh my god, look at that
33:02
Speaker 1: guy's body. Can you believe it? And I thought he
33:05
Speaker 1: was talking about Brandon. I'm like, Brandon's in the pool.
33:08
Speaker 1: And then apparently he was talking about you. So he
33:10
Speaker 1: had a big he had a big herd on for you.
33:13
Speaker 1: But do you remember he hadn't stopped thinking about it,
33:14
Speaker 1: and then a week later he brought it up. So
33:16
Speaker 1: I have a question for you guys. Then that's interesting.
33:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to stay in good shape because
33:20
Speaker 1: I'm a trainer, and just you know, I still like
33:23
Speaker 1: thinking myself like an athlete, so I like train harder
33:26
Speaker 1: than I probably need to and stuff that said, I
33:29
Speaker 1: always think it's super douchey when people that are trainers
33:33
Speaker 1: like share lots of photos of themselves. I think it's yeah,
33:38
Speaker 1: but I've had people actually a matter of fact, I
33:41
Speaker 1: put on the Instagram Q and A if people wanted
33:44
Speaker 1: us to talk about anything on the podcast, and somebody
33:46
Speaker 1: wrote in like, why don't you ever take pictures with
33:48
Speaker 1: your shirt off? And it's like, because I'm not he
33:49
Speaker 1: was not a gay guy who asked no, no, It's
33:52
Speaker 1: like I don't know who. It's definitely more of a
33:54
Speaker 1: gay thing that men do than straight because as soon
33:56
Speaker 1: as the guys with his shirt off. I have trainers
33:58
Speaker 1: that it for their all their Instagram videos literally take
34:03
Speaker 1: their shirt off to like lift their weight and then
34:05
Speaker 1: they put their shirt bag. No, you don't need to
34:07
Speaker 1: do that, insane. It's like when you go to Barry's
34:08
Speaker 1: boot camp and all the guys take their shirt off
34:10
Speaker 1: in Unison, like as soon as they go on a
34:11
Speaker 1: chart moment, you don't even started sweating at. I think
34:14
Speaker 1: it's also inappropriate for men to be able to take
34:16
Speaker 1: their shirts off while they're exercising when we're not allowed
34:19
Speaker 1: to take our shirts off and run down. We're not
34:22
Speaker 1: allowed to the rule in my gym is I don't
34:24
Speaker 1: care if you wear a shirt, but you just can't
34:25
Speaker 1: wear gloves. That's for men or women. Like a catchphrase,
34:29
Speaker 1: which is also another question that I'd like to ask,
34:31
Speaker 1: because you're wearing a shirt right now that says remember
34:34
Speaker 1: when I asked for your opinion me neither? Like do
34:36
Speaker 1: you look for these? Do people send them to you
34:38
Speaker 1: because you like a shirt with a logo or not
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Speaker 1: a logo a catch Yes? I do. I have a
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Speaker 1: solid T shirt collection because people know what I think.
34:46
Speaker 1: That's all I care about is what I think. Well
34:48
Speaker 1: that's a great answa. Uh yeah, long story short, Yeah,
34:53
Speaker 1: I get these are gifts. That was a short story
34:56
Speaker 1: that wasn't a story that actually there was an answer. Yeah,
35:00
Speaker 1: long story. Short is only for storytelling, not for answer.
35:03
Speaker 1: If you because people have said to me that you
35:06
Speaker 1: know that you do this thing where you talk over somebody,
35:08
Speaker 1: but because you were talking ship, I'm just trying to
35:10
Speaker 1: get you shut the funk up. But I would say,
35:13
Speaker 1: as a trainer, people tell me that you know you
35:16
Speaker 1: should your body is your business card is one thing
35:18
Speaker 1: that people say and that clients are more likely to
35:21
Speaker 1: want to train with you if they see your in
35:23
Speaker 1: good shape. But like, if you saw a trainer that
35:27
Speaker 1: had all these shirtless pictures, would you be more apt
35:29
Speaker 1: to train with him or less apt? Personally less? But
35:32
Speaker 1: Brandon answer for yourself, because you're a gay man, do
35:35
Speaker 1: you like that? No, I would say less as well.
35:36
Speaker 1: I would. I think that for me, it's saying like
35:40
Speaker 1: that they have that body, but I don't need to
35:41
Speaker 1: see it, Like if they haven't, I know what they're doing,
35:43
Speaker 1: but like I don't need to look at it. There's
35:45
Speaker 1: a personality type that goes along with posting naked photos
35:49
Speaker 1: of yourself. I know because I'm one of those people.
35:52
Speaker 1: So that is something that you know. If somebody's posing
35:55
Speaker 1: like that, you're gonna have one of two reactions usually,
35:59
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's a group of people that
36:00
Speaker 1: have a third reaction, which is in the middle and
36:02
Speaker 1: they don't carry it away. But yeah, it seems to
36:05
Speaker 1: be I was asking more out of curiosity. What about
36:08
Speaker 1: your mom? Your your mom's personal trainer. Does that interfere
36:11
Speaker 1: at all with your relationship with her? Are you able
36:14
Speaker 1: to talk about personal stuff when you're training her. My
36:16
Speaker 1: mom is how old? I'm not gonna one maybe or
36:20
Speaker 1: I think twenty. She's turning soon. I give her at
36:25
Speaker 1: workout tips sometimes. But you ever heard that saying you're
36:28
Speaker 1: never an expert in your own home. I'm sure it's
36:32
Speaker 1: just saying, but that's how I feel about my house. Brandon. Yeah,
36:38
Speaker 1: that has different applications, but she doesn't always listen to
36:41
Speaker 1: me on workout. But you do train your grandmother too,
36:43
Speaker 1: who's like ninety right, she can work out. My grandmother
36:46
Speaker 1: can run circles around most people. She does exercise class
36:50
Speaker 1: six days a week, you know, stuff in the pool
36:53
Speaker 1: and everything. Um, and she's also year old. Okay, well,
36:59
Speaker 1: this sounds like a good time to take a break.
37:02
Speaker 1: Is there a boundary or is there a thought process
37:04
Speaker 1: that you have when working with like l Well, I'll
37:08
Speaker 1: say this with any client I train. I always tell
37:12
Speaker 1: trainers that are asking how to program because one thing,
37:14
Speaker 1: a lot of trainers that train a high level clientele
37:18
Speaker 1: are more specialists, are having a niche or is it
37:22
Speaker 1: niche or niche niche I thought it was niche whatever,
37:26
Speaker 1: So a lot of trainers will have a niche so
37:29
Speaker 1: it could be training just you know, uh, models, or
37:33
Speaker 1: just act you know, superhero actors, or just baseball players
37:38
Speaker 1: or just basketball players. And my client tell is probably
37:43
Speaker 1: the most like diverse of of any trainers. You train
37:46
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes train you know, I trained my
37:51
Speaker 1: youngest clients like eighteen, my oldest clients in his seventies
37:54
Speaker 1: and and uh summer athletes, some are non athletes, And
37:58
Speaker 1: you trained just Spiel right CBL. She's got it the
38:01
Speaker 1: best one. I mean, that's pretty much the best body
38:03
Speaker 1: I think in my in my opinion, and have any
38:06
Speaker 1: female I think Jessica Bale's body is what I would
38:09
Speaker 1: they have a saying form follows function, but she does
38:12
Speaker 1: some of the most savage workouts stronger, and she's stronger
38:16
Speaker 1: than I am for sure. So what I was going
38:20
Speaker 1: to say though, with personal training is the personal part
38:24
Speaker 1: refers to the client, not the trainers. So a lot
38:26
Speaker 1: of trainers, in my opinion, go awry because they just
38:29
Speaker 1: try to train everyone the same. And for me, uh,
38:33
Speaker 1: I asked the client their goals and then just do that.
38:36
Speaker 1: I know that sounds super obvious, but when you talk
38:40
Speaker 1: about problem areas, I've I've actually never once said to
38:43
Speaker 1: a woman like, oh, like, I know you said you
38:46
Speaker 1: want to work on like your glutes, but like your
38:48
Speaker 1: arms are pretty shitty, Like I think we might need
38:50
Speaker 1: to work on that. I've never said that. Like when
38:52
Speaker 1: I first meet a new client, we have three questions, goals,
38:56
Speaker 1: injury history, and past training history. The last one don't
39:00
Speaker 1: really care that much about, but it just gives me
39:01
Speaker 1: an idea of what they like and don't like. But
39:03
Speaker 1: the goals in injury history are really the only things
39:06
Speaker 1: I care about, and it comes from the horse's mouth
39:09
Speaker 1: what they want to work on, and then we just
39:11
Speaker 1: do that within the constraints of their injury. And I
39:14
Speaker 1: also want to add that when there are trainers that
39:16
Speaker 1: do the same thing for every client, that's how you
39:19
Speaker 1: get injured. It's I've done that. I've been injured with
39:22
Speaker 1: every trainer that I've ever worked with except for Ben,
39:25
Speaker 1: and so uh that one prescription for everybody does not
39:29
Speaker 1: work when people have you dancing around like a maniac,
39:32
Speaker 1: and that that doesn't work for everybody. And with like,
39:35
Speaker 1: for example, you're you're somebody that likes to do a
39:37
Speaker 1: lot of arms. I trained some women. We haven't done
39:40
Speaker 1: arms in three years. None we do all lower body
39:43
Speaker 1: and core and what's happening with their arms. They don't
39:45
Speaker 1: want to work on their arms. They don't want muscle
39:48
Speaker 1: the I want muscular arms. Well, some women are uncomfortable
39:52
Speaker 1: with the level of muscularity in their arms. They want
39:54
Speaker 1: to back. Everybody is different, you know, and uh, guys
39:57
Speaker 1: are different in this regard. Some guys like being really
40:00
Speaker 1: in and their worst nightmares like being like all jacked up.
40:03
Speaker 1: Some guys like being bigger, and you know, women are
40:06
Speaker 1: the same way, beauties in the eye of the beholder.
40:08
Speaker 1: There's a lot of women that like a little bit
40:11
Speaker 1: more muscle, some that don't. It just you know, it depends.
40:14
Speaker 1: And as a personal trainer, it's not my place to
40:18
Speaker 1: pass judgment on anything. It's just like basically doing what
40:20
Speaker 1: they want to do. Yeah, but his question was, how
40:24
Speaker 1: do you are you how do you remain appropriate when
40:27
Speaker 1: you're dealing with especially with training women. I mean, I
40:30
Speaker 1: think that's just that has nothing to do with being
40:32
Speaker 1: a trainer. I think that's just more not being a creep.
40:35
Speaker 1: You know. I've always just kept it above board. I
40:37
Speaker 1: don't know how to really explain it because we laugh,
40:40
Speaker 1: we joke, But I think you know, there's never a
40:43
Speaker 1: question that it's like, you know, how do you think
40:46
Speaker 1: being a trainer in l A has affected or impacted
40:49
Speaker 1: your dating life helped you? No, I mean it doesn't
40:54
Speaker 1: have any bearing. I guess I think it has a
40:56
Speaker 1: lot of bearing. I mean you make a lot of
40:58
Speaker 1: connections just based on your social media because of your training.
41:02
Speaker 1: So I think there is a linkage depends who you ask.
41:05
Speaker 1: Being a trainer is either like my friends tell me,
41:08
Speaker 1: for example, that I underplay my job a lot, because
41:11
Speaker 1: if you were to meet somebody you talk about how
41:12
Speaker 1: many trainers there are in l A, it seems like
41:14
Speaker 1: there's more trainers than people in l A. And most
41:17
Speaker 1: of the time in l A, when I think trainer,
41:21
Speaker 1: I think somebody that wants to be an actor or
41:24
Speaker 1: whatever and it's just training in their free time and
41:27
Speaker 1: probably makes like ship money and you know whatever. And
41:31
Speaker 1: my friends always tell me with girls that I need
41:35
Speaker 1: to like talk my job up a little more because like,
41:38
Speaker 1: you know, if you just say you're a trainer, like
41:40
Speaker 1: this girl might think like you just have a shitty job.
41:43
Speaker 1: But to me that like like doing that or name
41:47
Speaker 1: dropping everybody trainer things as akin to taking your shirt
41:51
Speaker 1: off every day on social media. It's a real douchebag move.
41:54
Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting you say the trainer thing, because
41:56
Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder if that's a good thing or a
41:59
Speaker 1: bad thing. Well, then what's your stance on dating a client?
42:03
Speaker 1: I've never done it. Would you do it? Yeah? But
42:06
Speaker 1: I never have. But I mean I would never just
42:09
Speaker 1: like hook up with a client. But if there's somebody
42:11
Speaker 1: that I really liked and whatever, then I mean I
42:15
Speaker 1: guess i'd have to like figure it out if that happened,
42:17
Speaker 1: but I would probably either stop training or like whatever.
42:21
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think. I mean one of my
42:23
Speaker 1: friends it's a trainer, uh met his met his wife training.
42:27
Speaker 1: I mean, you know it's going strong. Yeah, it's been
42:32
Speaker 1: like twenty years. My point, I mean, you always meet
42:34
Speaker 1: people that you just like spend time with, so it
42:36
Speaker 1: could happen. It's just never it's actually never happened. But
42:38
Speaker 1: I'm not like, yeah, it could happen, but you have
42:41
Speaker 1: a lot of like fitness models hit you up on
42:43
Speaker 1: Instagram or like I feel like I feel like we've
42:47
Speaker 1: talked about this a few times. Why anybody who's hooking
42:52
Speaker 1: up with you doesn't know you're hooking up with other people. Yeah,
42:55
Speaker 1: I mean unless you're in some serious relationship, which you're not.
42:58
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody needs kid and wife and kids. But
43:01
Speaker 1: everyone needs to understand as adults that if you're just
43:03
Speaker 1: hooking up with somebody, that's simply all that it is
43:05
Speaker 1: until you get to the next level, and there should
43:07
Speaker 1: be no hurt feelings about that. As long as everybody's like,
43:10
Speaker 1: you know, not committing to anything. I mean, we're all single.
43:13
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to get just get a nut. Amen, Amen's sister,
43:20
Speaker 1: love it, bro. Just just be glad you're not in
43:23
Speaker 1: the single dating world. Brandon, Well, I have one more
43:25
Speaker 1: question for Betton that's personal. So you're talking about once
43:28
Speaker 1: and needs, and recently I realized that twenty nine I
43:31
Speaker 1: need to start stretching before or after I work out,
43:33
Speaker 1: which I never did. Yeah, let's do the stretching. What's
43:36
Speaker 1: the deal because I get conflicting reports all the time
43:40
Speaker 1: about what about stretching before. Yeah, there's so a lot
43:43
Speaker 1: of trainers. Now, you know, everything goes in waves. It's
43:46
Speaker 1: like same with food. You know, one point something is good,
43:49
Speaker 1: at one point something's bad. Stretching has fallen out of
43:52
Speaker 1: favor pre work out because people say it decreases your
43:56
Speaker 1: strength and force production. So a lot of people don't
44:00
Speaker 1: think that you should stretch pre workout. Uh. I do
44:04
Speaker 1: believe in stretching pre work out for the most part
44:07
Speaker 1: for people that are tight, because one the people I'm training,
44:11
Speaker 1: if you told me, you know, we stretch at the
44:14
Speaker 1: beginning of every workout. But if you told me my
44:16
Speaker 1: new goal is to set the world record and squats,
44:19
Speaker 1: we wouldn't probably stretch pre workout. We would you know,
44:23
Speaker 1: stretch after, and we would just everything would be, you know,
44:27
Speaker 1: singularly focused around that goal. And so if you know,
44:30
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to maybe take the chance of your
44:32
Speaker 1: force production going down or whatever. But for most people's
44:35
Speaker 1: goals that are tight, I think the more you stretch,
44:39
Speaker 1: the better. Uh. And stretching definitely does increase your mobility
44:44
Speaker 1: in the short term, so it allows you to get
44:46
Speaker 1: into the positions that you need to be in for
44:48
Speaker 1: the workout more effectively, like for example, those rear elevated
44:51
Speaker 1: split squats, if you didn't stretch your hip flexor's first,
44:54
Speaker 1: it might be tough for you to get into that
44:56
Speaker 1: position with an upright Torso like this is probably more
44:59
Speaker 1: nerdy than people want to get. But okay, I'm gonna
45:01
Speaker 1: stop you right there, Ben Bruno. We're gonna have to
45:04
Speaker 1: wrap this up because I have to go Tanning. I
45:06
Speaker 1: would like to thank Brandon for being here today, and
45:09
Speaker 1: I would like to thank Ben Bruno for being here today.
45:11
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45:15
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45:17
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Speaker 1: coming back to my roots, you know what I mean.
45:36
Speaker 1: I just had to back my way right back into it. Well,
45:38
Speaker 1: I'll be seeing your Nashville and New Orleans. Oh is
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