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The Mandalorian with Costumer, Kevin Ochoa · The Art of Costume Podcast

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We had a new character appear on screen, we have Ahmed best who
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had such incredible costume. An affair one knows, but he
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played Jar Jar Binks in the prequel movies.
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So this was a credible. Elizabeth, you look like you
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didn't do that. I didn't know that.
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I thought he looked familiar. Miliar.
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But I did not put two and two together.
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Black ass. I'm Overjoyed glass and I'm
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didn't Spencer. Let's laugh.
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Elizabeth much didn't Spencer. Oh my God.
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That's adorable. I like it, I like it.
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Oh my gosh. It is hot outside.
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What is this last time we talked?
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It was like raining and cold and snowing and now it's like a
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thousand degrees out. Yeah it's I mean it's a little
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better here than I think it is there.
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But still, I'm just annoyed because I just want it to be
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summer, and I just want to know what I can wear in the morning
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and like, not use my heater and my air conditioning.
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All right day. That would be lovely.
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We're back in the era of whenever we record and I like,
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turn on my coffee machine and blows out my fuses.
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And I have to turn the air conditioner on during breaks and
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stuff. You need to get someone to look
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at your electrical setup because the phenoxy, I feel like Like
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that can be fixed Spencer, your coffee makers or not like,
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destroy all of your electronics. All right.
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Well, I am having so much fun with Star Wars month.
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We had a great episode talking about The Empire Strikes Back,
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but now we're ready to talk about an exciting show that I
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think everyone on this planet and other planets are watching
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right now. Oh yes, I am.
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So excited this week we watched the Mandalorian And I talk about
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all three seasons. Yeah, I mean I couldn't be could
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just pick one season. It's just too much under short
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too. So you know might as well just
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cram them all into one art, accostumed episode.
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So this could go really well or really wrong, we'll find out go
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really well. Spencer and because of that, we
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needed a little bit of extra health.
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I am so excited to introduce today's Special co-host.
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A costumer who worked on the Mandalorian and nope, our
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friend. Kevin Ochoa.
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Hey Kevin welcome. Hello hello.
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Thank you for having me, of course or so excited to be
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joined by you. It's a it's a big honor from you
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coming all the way from Navarro and the outer room to join us.
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The jump to light speed helped me get here.
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So yes. Well thank you so much for
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joining us. I'm Excited to learn about your
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experience. I also know you listen to the
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podcast every once in a while so thank you.
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Of course for all of your support throughout our I don't
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know what you call this, whatever it is that we're doing.
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So thank you for joining, we'll call you.
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But speaking of Journeys, before we jump into everything
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Mandalorian. I want to lo, I want to know a
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little bit about you. You are a costumer you and I met
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actually the other day and had Some coffee and you told me a
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little bit about your story I would love for you to just share
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a little bit with her audience. Yeah.
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So basically I went to art school for high school and
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college and I was in the fashion and Beauty Industries, most of
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my career but when the pandemic happened I was looking for a
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career change and kind of saw it as an opportunity to just see
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what I could find out there and I found some classes at a local
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College. Judge that had a program that
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would allow students to find trainee, jobs in the industry,
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doing different crafts, and I chose costume and it kind of
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just took off instantly from there, right?
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It was an interesting time because covid-19 appening and
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the world was in a very uncertain place.
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So finding work was always a question, but with the support
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of the school, And the studios that were in collaboration with,
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I got my first job on nope which was super exciting and same with
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Alex bovard who I love very who I love and adore from the White
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Lotus of course which we can talk about that on another
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episode for sure. But yeah, it was a life-changing
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experience to have that opportunity and to really be
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allowed to to learn on in the field.
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And from really People talented people and then with the end of
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nope, I got notified that there was a lucasfilm project that was
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hiring and looking for families and I had an inkling of what
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that might be for. So I jumped at that opportunity
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and before I knew it, I was, I was hired by them and I had one
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day off in between any. Nope.
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And starting the man. Wario well.
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And that sounds like my nightmare.
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Yeah, nightmare. But still a nightmare, it
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definitely hit the ground running, you know, just Balls to
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the walls for lack of a better word, but definitely no prepared
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me to work on the Mandalorian, the mandalorians, a huge
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undertaking. It's a massive show.
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It goes so quickly. And yeah, it's it's just part of
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my my career now, which I'm still in disbelief about some
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Sometimes but I'm very proud of it and I learned so much under
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Shana of course, Shana Terps like, who we love and we're
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going to talk so much about in this episode.
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It's such a wild journey. I can't even imagine.
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I mean it's kind of a dream and I'm so excited to have you on.
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We've never had a costumer on before and I'm just excited to
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share your journey and hopefully others will feel inspired that
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you know this crazy dream. They might have might not be so
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crazy and you can make it happen too.
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I feel very honored to be here. Thank you.
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And yeah, it's I think that this is a very viable path if you put
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your mind to it and really work hard and show your stuff.
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So, yeah, thank you for having me again.
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Of course we're so excited. And with that, we have to talk
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about the Mandalorian. We have about a million costumes
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to get through so Elizabeth I think we should just jump right
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into it. Yes and I'll give the summary
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this week because Spencer did all the slides and their
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research. Oh this is the Mandalorian after
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the fall of the Galactic Empire alone, Bounty Hunter navigates,
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the outer reaches of the Galaxy and forms a bond with a
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mysterious creature. Meanwhile dark Forces gather to
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reclaim their power over the new Republic.
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That is the Mandalorian. If you haven't seen it, maybe
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you should stop right here because we spoil things.
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Yeah, we're gonna give all the spoilers and also just the site
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Yes, Kevin is here. He has, he worked on a
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Mandalorian. No, we will not be talking about
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anything spoilery in terms of the future.
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Don't even try it. We do not want to have naughty
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conversations with lucasfilm. So we're gonna play nice today.
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We only spoil media that has already been published and yeah,
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and like months ago. So with that.
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Let's go behind a wardrobe. The Mandalorian was created by
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By Jon Favreau, and we have actually two costume designers.
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Season one was designed by Joseph poro for which he was
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nominated for an Emmy and and Seasons.
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Two. And three was designed by the
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lovely Shana terpsichore, which she was also nominated for an
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Emmy. You are no Joseph's work from a
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TV show called Salem, which are know if any of you have seen
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Elizabeth, I knew you. Thank you.
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Oh, good, watch that. You gotta see it.
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I don't think I finished it, but it's very like, Over the tile.
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Cheesy stupid. But like brilliant, also
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Independence Day Stargate Super Mario, Brothers and Norville
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very up, Elizabeth Sally. I'll say, yeah.
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And then we have the brilliant Shana terpsichore, who I
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absolutely adore. You will know her from her work
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on Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, which I grew up on, and I've
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already told her this a thousand times Firefly which is up
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Elizabeth Ali, Angel Much Ado, About Nothing, The Cabin in the
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Woods and the Book of Boba Fett, for which she was nominated for
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an Emmy and won a costume designers, Guild award.
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And we also have a special bonus episode with Shana about the
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book of Boba Fett. So, after this go listen to that
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episode, it's one of my favorites.
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I basically was very Starstruck the entire quick interview.
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So, lots of fun and also Shana was working on a new TV show
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called Ahsoka, which is Being out soon.
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So get ready for that. I know I am how exciting that
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must have been wonderful fun to work on.
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Yeah, I wonder who else might have worked.
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Imagine if like, a lucasfilm was like shooting poison.
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Darts at us. We so obviously, when we go
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behind a wardrobe, we love to give you some facts, but with
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the Mandalorian being so, Huge. We kind of decided to just
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sprinkle them throughout the episode but I can start us with
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a little quote from John Favreau.
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Just about the scope of the Mandalorian and really kind of
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talks about working with the brilliant crew, which Kevin is a
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part of John said, recently to Entertainment Weekly, I'm having
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a blast and I love working with Dave filoni and I love how to
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characters develop over time. It's a really wonderful format
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and he really grow to appreciate having such a good team around
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you that for each new film, you would have to assemble.
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But with the Mandalorian we get to This great group of talented
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people that we could work with every year.
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I don't know. What would make me not enjoy
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doing it. Especially as long as the
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audience is connecting with these characters.
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This feels like a really enjoyable moment and I love that
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because it's just such a good show.
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It's fun. It's campy, it's heartwarming,
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maybe not every episode is changing the world, but to me,
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it's just nice to, like, have something to look forward to and
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that escape and incredible costumes.
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Great stories, and I don't know about you two.
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I mean, Kevin before you worked on it, you were a fan, too.
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Absolutely, I mean, we've all grown up with these characters.
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I think that they've followed us throughout our lives and I find
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myself coming back to the original trilogy and just
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appreciating it from a different perspective every time because
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it's it lives on, and it means something.
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We all hold it so close to our hearts.
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So it's really special franchise to be part of.
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Yeah, I love, I love especially the Mandalorian Because like you
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said, it's just like kind of can't be and fun.
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And it's like, kind of separate from like a lot of other bigger
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Star Wars storyline. So it just feels very like small
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and like comforting, even though, you know, they're
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fighting every single episode. That's why, like, it's like one
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episode. It's like, I'm crying and I'm
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stressed. Aka the last episode we watched
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and in some episodes glycol is O's here.
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This is nice. Because he's cowboy on his
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journey, you know, he's going to get some places and just having
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these different experiences and interactions.
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It's, it's fun. It's like you said, every weeks
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a different story which is great.
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It chapter, if you will, well, if you do go back soon, if you
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could just tell them to never end the show, as long as I'm
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still alive, that would be fantastic.
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You what I can do about that? Yes, I have so many
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conversations with the Creator and with that.
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Let's take a quick little break, and when we come back we have a
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lot of costumes to zoom around through.
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This is the way this is the way. We have season one of the
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Mandalorian and we have man do that.
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That'll Orion the dad alone. Oh my gosh, preparing, these
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slides. When I pulled the original
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Mandalorian armor, it really took me back for a second.
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I forgot how like, you know, it's still great armor and a
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great costume, but how like ragtag Mando looked?
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When we first met him, it's just like you're not used to it.
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After all these years, I'd forgotten the same thing.
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I, when I saw your slides, I was like, oh yeah.
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We have a long way since then. All right around, yeah.
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Like oh yeah, he was just like alone mercenary.
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Just like bopping around the Galaxy at first, right?
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And my favorite part too is that it doesn't really match so much.
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Like there's a metal piece here. There's a brown piece here, kind
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of like, at a here which to me kind of says like, he's kind of
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just like sourcing his armor from where he could get it at
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this point. He's selling it together, you
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know, it's not bad armor, it's strong for sure.
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It's kept them live this long but definitely feels like it's
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being pieced together, which I really Love ya, definitely.
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I also like just like the color because like that kind of goes
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away for him. So I like this like reddish
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brown, just like Warren owl. Look, yeah.
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This like Kevin mentioned earlier this to me is like very
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Space Cowboy. This is The Good, the Bad and
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the Ugly type of western cowboy man.
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Looking for his child. Yeah, for sure I could
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definitely put some throw Thing. These looks then, of course, we
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have some other fun characters we have grief carga and quill
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and it's so good to like Reeve. I feel like the first season of
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the Mandalorian came out like a decade ago, but it was like,
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what? Three years ago?
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I don't know up and down the carpet in there.
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So, you know, what is the time grief cargo really went through.
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A lot of changes in the first season, he was just kind of
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another Bounty Hunter. Type guy.
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Also kind of Western inspired. I would say.
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Yeah, definitely that like not as thrown together but still a
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little like getting pieces here and there look to him in this
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first season but still polish, though he still has the money.
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I would say he's always been the one in charge so up close.
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So look at the fabric. So his sleeve fabric looks, I
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want to touch it, so desperately Yeah, I've always appreciated
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the fine details, in Star Wars costumes.
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It's like the textures are so important.
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And for his specifically, like you said, you like, you want to
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touch the sleeve, it has like a has a lift to it.
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It's got texture. Feels.
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It looks like. It feels very soft and nice.
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Yeah. Kevin is a Fabrics person by the
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way. So we're going to jump into all
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of that later, comment. And then queal such a great guy.
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All righty. Yeah that that was my said oh my
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gosh I'm just trying to remember how he went.
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It's it's kind of horrifying laughs.
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I don't know but that's the rewatch.
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It's been a long time but yeah it's just I love those first
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Episodes I II wish I could like you erase my memory and go back
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and re-watch them for the first time.
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Because I remember how exciting this was when the show started
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every week you know with With that scary mud, or I know, I
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don't remember what it was called, but and grow goo lifting
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him up with the force, like, do Meredith.
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First time you watch that. You're like wow.
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Yeah, well that's the thing with the first season.
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Specifically, I remember watching the first episode and I
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think everyone was kind of unsure about what it was going
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to be what it was about with the theme was what the story was and
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it wasn't until the very end of the first episode.
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When when you see grow goo for the first time and back, then he
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was just known as the child or baby Yoda.
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And it was just this like light bulb moment.
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So to speak where it all kind of clicked and made sense, like,
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oh, this is what we're going to be doing this season.
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This is the story. It's about him and the
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Mandalorian and their journey together, and I think it caught
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everyone's hearts. And that's I think that's The
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reason why this has been so successful.
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And yeah, so fun to continue that story up to this point.
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Yeah, definitely. Oh my gosh.
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Remember when everyone was calling him baby Yoda?
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Yes, I mean, some people still do but I imagine it's probably
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band tan set. You don't have to answer that.
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I mean, I was just going to say with the right thing for him,
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you know? It's just, it's like, it's a
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cash cow for her Disney and lucasfilm.
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Yeah, for sure. And over the years, you'll see
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the merchandising change with the name.
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It's like it said, the child for a while, then it says grow goo.
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And now it's going to need to say, didn't grow go.
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You know, it's interesting to see that that changing over time
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as well. I feel bad for the people,
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getting his name tattooed or something and it across about
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every every season. And on, let's let's hope didn't
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Kroger doesn't get married and gets like another last name.
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And before we End season one, I think it's good to check in on
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Mob. Gideon played by Giancarlo
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Esposito. He always had, you know how I
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love a cape and he always has like the most badass armor.
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I know we're supposed to hate this man but he has impeccable
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style. I'm just going to say it.
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Cool. He looks so cool.
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It looks cool and scary and ominous and terrifying all at
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once. Right?
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I'd say probably one of the more More like bad villains of Star
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Wars. Like, if I were to see this man,
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I be scared. I can't say the same for like
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the Rogue one villains, you know?
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Yeah, this man scares me but also, I want to shop his closet
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as you do, and I do feel like his costume through the seasons
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has changed the lease though. Because like I see is it's like
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clearly different from like the most recent one, but it's like,
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he knows his style and like, To it, I feel like right.
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He loves a dramatic Cape, remember that last episode of
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the Season or the last two episodes.
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When Jon Favreau had the 50 First Legion onset?
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Did you know this where they were like we need Stormtroopers
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and they actually connected with the 50 First Legion to provide
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some of their own people who created their own stormtrooper
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armor, and they were on set that day, which is pretty cool.
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This is public knowledge is what Or sharing yes.
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Yeah it's on the documentary. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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There's a great documentary on Thursday plus.
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I'm not sharing anything that's not public knowledge.
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Yeah. It's it's fun to bring in the
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fandom and have them be part of telling these stories and it's
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it's so wildly impressive. How vast their knowledge has of
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the Star Wars universe and how dedicated they are.
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R2, fine, details and just getting everything.
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Perfect. And it's valued.
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I think that's the thing. It's valued by everyone that
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creates the shows and it's such a collaborative effort in that
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regard. Yeah, and with that, we're going
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to take another quick break, but when we come back now, we're
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really diving into Seasons, two and three.
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And we're excited to hear more about Kevin, think experience on
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the Mandalorian, I'll be right back.
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All right, and we are back and ready to talk about Seasons, two
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and three design by Shauna terpsichore.
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And with that, I have had the chance to interview Shauna not
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once but twice. So I actually do have some
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quotes to be able to share about her experience working on season
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2 and some from season 3. So, Hip when we talk both season
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2, she told me the experience was like, no other John has
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brought together a band of incredible artists and
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technicians but most importantly a group of Star Wars fans
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through and through the show is fast-paced and a huge
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undertaking. And we all want to give our all
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for every moment and every look it's the most glorious and
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rewarding challenge. I often squeal with childlike
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excitement. When a costume is finished and
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on the actor and I have to say, just talking to her, I know that
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to be true she She is a big nerd, just like the rest of us,
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which is why I love her so much because I know that she is being
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genuine. When she says that she really
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loves us and is passionate about it and I bet Kevin could
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probably attest to that. Yes, it's that's very true.
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Every day in our office and warehouse It's she's such a
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wealth of knowledge and is so excited about every single thing
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that we're doing and just knows exactly what it needs to be.
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And that's why it's so wonderful working with her because you can
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trust her To guide you towards this end goal that we're all
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working towards which is creating these beautiful
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costumes. And again, she's such a nerd in
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all the best ways and just has such a vast knowledge of the
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universe in the franchise itself and she's always immersed in
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books and we're trying to tell her not to rip Pages out of
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books. But you know things happen, we
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need, we need Source material, so it's really fun to work with
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someone like that. That's so passionate about what
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we're doing they after. Day.
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And with that, let's talk about the Mandalorian again.
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Dan jarun, who has his new and upgraded armor and seasons and
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this to me just looks expensive or Rich, he's protected.
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I mean, after seeing that season 1 Armour, it just feels like he
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rolled up in a new SUV. Escalade, it's just so nice.
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He looks great. He looks wonderful.
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And it's upgraded armor and it's, you know, shiny and
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Polished and new, and yeah. You to go so ready and I feel
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like this fits his character more, then the original.
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And I'm also like oh, he's like growing up getting more like
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responsible for his role in the universe.
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Yeah. And I love the old Maps because
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his helmet stayed the same as armor.
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Hasn't so that really now that I've seen sees the one, I'm so
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happy that were there because that would have continued to
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bother me at this point. So he has the whole new set.
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He looks incredible. You know, I don't know how to
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build this kind of armor but It's kind of like on my bucket
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list to somehow end up with Mandalorian armor.
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One day I'm going to have to like make lots of friends at
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Star Wars celebration or something because I need this.
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I need this for me to the cosplayers are so dedicated to
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getting it, right? I mean, I've seen some wonderful
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cosplay costumes and it's definitely impressive to me.
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How again detailed everyone is with what they do.
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It's wonderful. Right?
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And then the next I want to talk about there is an episode in
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season 2, where we finally get to see a Ahsoka and live action.
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Elizabeth, did you ever watch the Clone Wars cartoons?
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I didn't. Uh, gotta get on that.
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Yeah, I do. I watch the like the 2D it
26:08
wasn't clever what it was called, but there was like a 2d
26:10
cartoon that I watched and I loved and what like movie you're
26:14
talking about. It's I think.
26:17
Yeah, it was on. I think we don't.
26:18
R2 Network hmm. But I love that.
26:21
And then when Clone Wars came around, I was like, all right,
26:24
he's already seen them. I need to go back and watch it.
26:29
But like at the time it like didn't cross my mind that it was
26:31
something I should watch. Well, I believe it's all on
26:34
Disney plus I think everyone should go and watch it also Star
26:37
Wars Rebels because it's going to help you with upcoming show,
26:40
by the way. But I love the Star Wars Clone
26:43
Wars cartoon. I love Ahsoka.
26:45
Ashley Eckstein some when Rio Das and showed up on screen.
26:50
I not to be dramatic bike ride. It was so exciting and her
26:57
costume is just incredible. I yes, such such a moment.
27:03
It was like, I wasn't expecting to see her in this.
27:08
When I saw this episode, I almost immediately reached out
27:11
to Shawna and as she shared some notes about working on Ahsoka,
27:15
specifically, and just bringing to life these live Ian
27:19
characters because Boca Raton, was also one who came from the
27:22
cartoon. She said, I've been going to
27:24
Comic-Con in San Diego for years and years and have great respect
27:27
and understanding for the legacy of these iconic characters.
27:30
By staying loyal to Dave filoni has Vision created an animation,
27:34
but plying, my knowledge of how a costume must work for Live
27:37
Action and movement. I knew we created something
27:40
magical and I went, I'm out Ahsoka, she said, I relied
27:44
heavily on Dave's direction for her.
27:45
He gave me his research that influences.
27:48
Decisions. And I worked off them to create
27:50
the live-action version even going so far as to have fabric,
27:54
made to give her the journey Warren cloak.
27:57
And we made many attempts at the Jedi Hood before we got it right
28:01
as well. So I could just imagine that the
28:03
process of trying to bring this beloved character to life must
28:08
have been, probably pretty scary, the cloak itself.
28:11
I've seen it in person. It's it's beautiful, and it's
28:16
it's hits handmade. And it's it's so much texture
28:20
and detail to it and it's every bit of what you wanted to be.
28:26
It's a Jedi cloak. It looks really really cool.
28:29
So cool. Have you ever worn it?
28:32
You don't have no. I've never wanted.
28:33
I believe me in fighting the urge every time I see any bit
28:37
like so it's like my goal to have one.
28:39
That's something they do require quite a bit of yardage but they
28:44
they're they're fantastic. And again, ahsoka's is Quite
28:49
possibly one of my favorites that I've ever I've ever seen.
28:53
Mmm nice. Well, no detail.
28:55
Goes overturned. I would say.
28:57
And I actually asked Sean about that because when you look at
29:01
her belt, she has a braid tight around her belt.
29:04
So to me, I was like, oh, that must be the Padawan braid.
29:07
So when I confronted her about this, she laughed and said and
29:11
may or may not be the braid, some influences are like art up
29:15
to the interpretation of the viewer every detail for Costume
29:19
means something and comes from her character's Evolution, but
29:22
it's important to me to let the viewer participate in the
29:24
storytelling. And I actually is like, kind of
29:27
what I love about the Mandalorian, they give so much,
29:29
and you're kind of able to draw your own conclusions on things.
29:33
I think this speaks very well to Shauna's perspective on on
29:38
design because we create so many costumes for these shows.
29:43
And there's so many fine details that go into every single one
29:46
and everything has to tell the story and he Part of the
29:49
character's story and she just has such a unique and skilled
29:54
way of understanding what is appropriate for each character,
29:58
and it helps whenever we're sourcing and shopping for
30:02
anything that we need. It's really it's why everyone
30:06
looks so unique and special at the end of the day I love but
30:09
and who I also love is Boca Raton played by Katee Sackhoff,
30:14
it was so good to see her also in live action and Evan, you
30:18
actually got to work with her. I'm assuming on season three or
30:21
at least in proximity. I was around.
30:24
Yeah. So Shawna also talked about this
30:29
at she said, Dave guided me very carefully through the helmets.
30:33
The angled, a cheekbones to slant of the eyes, the flare at
30:36
the bottom, the helmet is the first thing you see, and it
30:39
communicates so much getting that, right?
30:41
And a slight differences and the colors were imperative.
30:44
And she also said we did tear out a few seams, a few seams.
30:48
And Action also. After a week of intense,
30:50
fighting Katie was losing weight and gaining more muscle uniform
30:54
was shifting and frequent ultimate alterations were needed
30:57
to keep the shape. We intended.
30:59
We did add stretch panels throughout to ease the strain on
31:02
the seems. So I guess if that it kind of
31:05
wants me to talk a little bit about just the mandalorians in
31:09
general Kevin. How there's so many in season 3?
31:13
Just you noticed how how is this?
31:18
Double I guess I just don't even know where to start.
31:21
How is it possible? My goodness.
31:22
That's quite a question. It's um, it's a lot of
31:27
collaboration involves between different departments.
31:30
There's aging and Specialty constructing armor pieces.
31:35
And, you know, raging things down to make them look worn and
31:40
used. And obviously with the action
31:43
scenes, there's a lot to contend with is in regards to movement
31:46
as Shawna mentioned, in her quote.
31:48
There's just there's so many elements that go into preparing
31:54
these costumes for the screen and each one presents its own
31:58
challenges especially in the most recent season.
32:02
When we had the coverts you see them all.
32:05
I'm just looking at your slide. Now with that group of them
32:08
standing there, you can see the colors.
32:13
They don't really match on any of them, these characters have
32:17
been sourcing. Armor pieces as they've gone
32:21
along, because they're in hiding and they only have access to
32:24
what they can find. So again, it speaks to the
32:27
storytelling of course, but when we're creating everything,
32:30
everything has to be very well labeled.
32:32
So things don't get mixed up. So we don't know what goes
32:34
where. So that's also, that's very
32:36
important. But it's, it's such an
32:39
interesting costume to to really dissect and understand because
32:44
there's so many parts and pieces that go into it.
32:47
Each, you know, our The left in the right, there's pauldrons and
32:51
there's, there's bats and everything.
32:54
It's a lot. So it's organization is key.
32:57
I think that's the short answer for that.
33:02
I think it's so exciting and I, it's so interesting that you
33:06
mentioned that they do have mixed matched pieces.
33:08
I guess the didn't realize it, but after talking about season
33:11
one, I'm like, oh, this is maybe like a habit, that them Darin
33:14
kind of picked up from his own people, is sourcing these armor
33:18
pieces. That's why use mix match.
33:19
So that's kind of like a cool through in line and this is the
33:23
first time we've seen children young right as mandalorians as
33:28
well. So it's like you know pairing
33:30
down the costume to fit a child and you know the helmets have to
33:34
be made a certain way because they're smaller people you know.
33:38
And again it's just the challenges that are presented
33:43
with these costumes. It's fun.
33:46
You know, to have to encounter that and And figure it out.
33:49
And again, back to the Aging as well.
33:51
It's all those fine details, that go into it with, you know,
33:55
where you're going to put a rip or a tear, or like a hole or
33:58
something like that, it all has to be balanced on the costume as
34:02
a whole. So, again, it's just very
34:05
exciting to have been part of that, right?
34:09
I have to admit when I saw the child Mandalorian, it did take
34:13
me back for a second. I was like there.
34:15
Can't be Mandalorian children and I'm like, well wait, that
34:18
doesn't. Don't make sense.
34:19
They have to be children and it really freaked me out at First
34:23
with her. What the yeah.
34:26
No, that's such a cool experience.
34:28
I can't imagine. I wish I was a part of a
34:30
Mandalorian covert but anyways speaking of another Mandalorian
34:35
we got a little Glimpse at Boba Fett in season 2.
34:39
Yeah. And I was so excited to be able
34:41
to talk to Shawn about, to book of Boba Fett specifically.
34:45
But she did also talk about work.
34:48
Working with Boba Fett on season 2.
34:50
And we have a little audio clip that we could play of her
34:53
talking about working with Boba. Hit it Daniel.
34:58
The direction I was given from mental or in season 2 from Jon
35:03
Favreau was, you know, a man of the desert, you know, and he
35:08
mentioned, you know, Lawrence of Arabia and in things like that.
35:12
And so, when I researched Lawrence Arabia, you know, he
35:15
was an all-black and so I just I took that to mean that John
35:19
wanted him in black. And so, I said, you know, I've
35:24
been very loyal when I created the You know, the Boba Fett vest
35:28
for top bands, I put it on, you know, gray fabric, like she
35:33
would have looked in the original so but the schedules,
35:37
it's so cool. You know, my sketch artist at
35:40
the time was with, you know, sketch him up like oh that the
35:43
armor really pops on the black. I love this and I forgot to know
35:47
that Dave filoni gave me that he never wants to see Boba Fett and
35:50
black. And you didn't want to look too
35:52
much like Darth Vader. And so I presented the sketches
35:55
in there and he was like, oh this looks really good.
35:58
Yeah, it's subtle. It's settled.
36:01
I forgot. You told me not to do that, but
36:06
they end up loving it and I was like, Michael one day was my
36:09
sketch artist and I'm like, Michael week, you know, we got
36:12
approved and and so bringing him to scream to me because I was
36:21
changing his look so much. It took some of the pressure off
36:24
because you're making any statement and I was Under the
36:28
protection of John, and Dave, and Doug Chiang.
36:31
That I knew they would let me Miss mess this up.
36:33
You know, I was, I was in very good hands.
36:37
Yeah, that's a true story and I think it also speaks to Shauna's
36:42
Artistry and when she believes in something, she's gonna go for
36:45
it and she's gonna do everything she can to convince the powers
36:49
that be that this is the way that this is the way, this is
36:54
where we need to go and more often than not.
36:56
She's able to convince them and it means means it speaks to her
37:01
talent and skill as a designer, but also a fan of the franchise
37:05
in and of itself. She understands what things need
37:09
to look like to really tell the story.
37:11
And I think that Boba Fett wearing black, and that in that
37:15
part of the season was with the right choice.
37:18
I think it really came through beautifully.
37:21
I agree. I love the Lawrence of Arabia
37:24
like influence because it really comes through, but she
37:27
definitely like Star Wars a fight it.
37:32
And it's just also like, for Boba.
37:34
Fett's like such a departure. For that character and she just
37:38
made it work. So beautifully.
37:40
Yeah, it's such a great costume. Especially once you, I think
37:44
everyone should go watch the book of Boba Fett, listen to my
37:46
interview because she also really talks about the
37:48
influences of, you know, the tuscans.
37:50
And how that inspired his costume as well.
37:53
So go listen to that after this and get a little bit more
37:56
details on that and as well as finish, and who's one of my
38:00
favorite characters. So you've got to check out the
38:03
interview with that. Let's dive Into just fully
38:07
season 3 at this point, and I was so excited to see Coruscant.
38:13
Yes, yes. Kevin there was like one or two
38:16
costumes happening on Coruscant. What was it, like being a part
38:21
of this episode? Well, I think with Coruscant
38:24
would so interesting and fun is the fact that it's the capital
38:28
Planet. It is a place where people are
38:31
going to look more elegant and Polished and put together.
38:36
And that's an opportunity as costumers for us to take that
38:42
and really make them look the part.
38:46
I just love looking at beautiful, elegant creations and
38:51
anything that has any sort of Sheen to it or metallic look to
38:56
it. And with all the jewelry that
38:58
they be wearing and all the different layers, it speaks to
39:02
their wealth, it speaks to their their status, it speaks To their
39:08
who they are as a planet, it all came together so beautifully.
39:13
I think it was fun to to go back to Coruscant, right?
39:16
And I imagine just so many costumes, it was a lot.
39:20
Definitely, I can only imagine I loved it because it just, it
39:27
seems like they're like oh, this is where everybody converges
39:30
like exchanges ideas, it seems like, oh, this is definitely
39:32
like the fashion capital of the Galaxy like I thought it was so
39:38
cool, like the Milan of the Star Wars has can save space but it's
39:48
not real. We had a new character appear on
39:52
screen. We have the Jedi.
39:54
Who saved little baby grow goo? Well maybe wasn't baby.
39:59
He could have still been 50 played by Ahmed best who had
40:03
such incredible costume, I don't know.
40:06
Fair one know. But he played Jar Jar Binks in
40:08
the prequel movies, so this was a credible.
40:12
Elizabeth, you look like, you didn't know that.
40:14
I didn't know that. I thought he looked familiar but
40:17
I did not put two and two together.
40:20
I don't know how he looks familiar to you.
40:22
But yeah. Did you see all those
40:25
behind-the-scenes thing? Because it definitely took me a
40:30
second. Yeah, no.
40:32
I'm I'm so excited for him to be a part of this.
40:36
And look at That costume that is Rich.
40:38
I mean, I know that Kevin prize dying over these specific
40:43
Fabrics. I love what looks like the gold
40:46
embroidery on the lapel. I also I messaged Shauna and I
40:51
said that it's kind of giving me like Qui-Gon Jinn Vibes.
40:54
A little bit. Slightly might be a stretch but
40:58
to me just feels a little inspired but then also his own
41:00
thing. At the same time to, I've never
41:02
seen that sort of embroidery and a Jedi costume.
41:06
Yeah, I know that. Embroidery was very important
41:08
for Shauna and to get it. Right?
41:11
And a lot of attention was paid to the that specific detail on
41:15
the costume. I think it looks so good on
41:18
screen and just in that moment where he's revealed, you know,
41:23
as he saving grow goo. It's and I was just the way that
41:28
he's revealed and it all, it's all happening, so quickly.
41:30
It's just like the gold right there.
41:32
Is just makes him look like a savior almost in a way.
41:36
Yeah. Yeah.
41:37
And the layers of the costume. He's just looks so badass to me
41:44
for lack of a better word. Well, that's the right word and
41:46
you look it mean all the action sequences as well as he saving
41:50
grow coup, it just the movement of everything and his robe.
41:57
It's just again there. They require a lot of fabric to
42:00
make and to be able to maneuver them when you're doing those
42:04
types of action sequences and It's not, it's not an easy task.
42:09
So I think it was a moment of redemption for the after and it
42:14
for the fandom, as well. It was just so great to have
42:17
this moment where he's now going to be known as the one who saved
42:21
grow go. Yeah, yeah.
42:23
I mean to me it's like the galaxies version of like a
42:26
superhero. When you see him on screen
42:28
you're the knight in shining armor type type situation.
42:32
We instantly knew like oh this guy's going to get grow your out
42:35
of here and he's probably gonna survive.
42:36
I've to so I don't know where he went after this, but I hope we
42:39
answer that question. Don't look at Kevin, okay?
42:42
Next big moving forward with that.
42:50
We have some nightmare fuel. I would love to talk about.
42:56
We have two species, the mon calamari and the core in Captain
43:01
who they have a quick moment on an episode.
43:05
It's kind of like the cold open. Owen and such incredible
43:09
costumes. It's just two random Side
43:11
characters but just up close the textures on, you know, it's just
43:17
incredible and Kevin. I believe these two characters
43:19
actually are rather near and dear to your heart.
43:23
They are these are two characters that I Source fabrics
43:27
for directly. The quarren captain was really
43:31
fun because it was a costume that had to go into water as
43:35
well. And that was something that I
43:37
hadn't worked with before. So collaborating with Shawna or
43:42
under her guidance, rather. She told me what to expect in
43:47
the scene like what didn't what the Fabrics needed to be able to
43:50
do. And from that point forward, I
43:53
knew what I needed to find out in the world and I just love the
43:58
construction of it. I mean, I always have full faith
44:02
in our department but the way it turned out and it looks on
44:05
screen. I just I love it so much the
44:07
panels and all the stitching and the top stitching and
44:11
everything. I think it just turned out so
44:13
wonderful. And I remember like The Binding
44:17
fabric for example, it's something that I almost didn't,
44:22
take with me on a shopping trip. But something told me that, you
44:26
know, this might be right, this might work, I should bring it
44:29
back and lo and behold. It was what was chosen and I
44:33
think it was it was the right choice for sure in it.
44:36
I'm really like that. Cost him a lot.
44:39
It's a very good one. I actually can't even imagine
44:41
like what you're feeling, just even looking at this image right
44:45
here. I mean, it must be such a cool
44:46
feeling because it's a job. Well done.
44:49
But like knowing I'm part of this collaborative effort.
44:52
It's so cool. Like everyone has a piece or
44:55
their hand in it somewhere, and it just came together.
44:58
So, so wonderfully. And then for the nobleman the,
45:01
mon calamari noblemen, those Fabrics were super fun because
45:05
we don't see See purple very often in Star Wars and to shop
45:11
for Fabrics. In that color, just it allowed
45:16
me to look for things that I don't normally have to look for
45:19
and I really loved that Shawna kind of just set me loose.
45:26
And let me find things that spoke to me and I was sending
45:28
her photos while I was out there.
45:30
She was giving me feedback and when I brought everything back,
45:35
we had a good selection. But it was a small assortment
45:38
and it all works out beautifully.
45:41
I just was very impressed with how his costume came out as
45:45
well. And again, I just speaks to the
45:47
the talents and skills of our department, and it's all a
45:51
collaborative thing. We all have a role to play.
45:54
And I think these two, for the short amount of screen time that
45:58
they had, they made a big impact, and I think they looked
46:00
they look really, really good. Absolutely, they were such a
46:04
cool little moment and look. Just so fantastic.
46:08
Yeah, I am particular, love the corn Captain's suit.
46:12
I I will say that her dead eyes really freaking me out.
46:16
But like now seeing up close this costume.
46:20
It's brilliant. I mean if the construction like
46:22
you said that this is like a top-tier masterclass Emmy Award
46:27
worthy. Costume is so good.
46:30
I hope to see this one like in a costume exhibit at some point to
46:34
see this one up close because the construction It's just
46:37
amazing. It's so good.
46:39
Those eyes, though. You gotta go?
46:41
Yeah, I think this is what you're going to be dreaming
46:43
about tonight. How about we all travel to
46:50
plaisir 15? We have fun cameos.
46:56
Honestly, if I was in the star Star Wars Universe, I think I
46:59
would want to be here. There's no work, it's all play
47:02
there. So why not?
47:04
Exactly. And they all look beautiful
47:06
You'll like, what's there, what is there to not love about this
47:08
planet? Absolutely, it's definitely my
47:11
type of planet and we have some incredible people AKA lizzo,
47:17
Jack Black, and Christopher Lloyd, what a star packed cast
47:22
for this episode So Random and so perfect.
47:26
Kevin you also worked heavily on this episode.
47:31
I know this is actually how I was going through Instagram and
47:34
saw your post, and I was like No record.
47:37
Scratch of a, you worked on this.
47:39
I had no idea, which is why I contacted you like instantly.
47:43
So how plus you're 15. What was your experience like
47:48
working on these costumes? It was really, really fun
47:53
because it was a new planet that we'd never visited before in the
47:57
universe and it was an opportunity to tell a new story
48:02
and you can see with the colors that work.
48:06
Chosen. We don't often see these colors
48:08
either and and Star Wars. So the the gold metallic velvet
48:16
brocade from Captain Bombardier errs shoulder Cape.
48:20
That's one of my favorites. I remember finding that digging
48:25
through a pile of fabric and it was something that we were still
48:29
looking for it and hadn't really found the right thing yet and it
48:34
was like a needle in a haystack moment for me.
48:36
And I was like I'm when I thought I was like this is it?
48:40
I know this is it. Shawn is gonna love this and lo
48:42
and behold that's what was chosen.
48:44
But so wild. I just can't imagine digging
48:47
through a pile and be like oh this is perfect for a Star Wars
48:50
television shows. We watch tires entire world with
48:56
the colors that were used. It's like on the duchess's
49:00
costume. There's there's beadwork,
49:02
there's Stones. There's these Iridescent pinks
49:07
and blues and bit of green in there as well.
49:10
It's it's really, it's just an opportunity to do something new
49:15
which I really appreciated and even you can see the guard in
49:19
the background of the shot that we're looking at.
49:22
Now there is like a magenta or like a fuchsia and the teal and
49:28
these colors. We don't get to use them very
49:29
often so it was fun to be able to do that this time around.
49:33
And also I love about the Mandalorian is that there are So
49:36
many fun details. I actually don't even notice the
49:39
guard Behind The Duchess until today when we sat down, and that
49:44
armor is so cool. It's almost like kind of
49:47
Stormtrooper, but like fun and colorful like a cool
49:50
Stormtrooper one day you'd want to hang out with perhaps.
49:53
Yeah, he doesn't look threatening at all their does
49:55
here. Coachella Stormtrooper, let's
50:02
check back in on Grief carga. He is now I believe the high mad
50:06
Just straight. Is that the right word?
50:09
He looks great. I love comes to me.
50:12
Yeah, look at that. Red textile again.
50:16
I'm obsessed with it. I want to touch it.
50:18
And yeah, you could just tell that he's in charge.
50:22
He's really changed things around here.
50:25
He looks awesome. Yeah, that piece definitely has
50:28
a lot of weight to it and when watching him on screen in the
50:35
episodes, where he wears it, It just always impresses me how
50:38
he's able to move with it so easily, like it's nothing at
50:42
all. Like that thing is heavy.
50:44
I gotta go. But he again speaks to the
50:48
character. He's, you know, he's in charge,
50:50
he's large and in charge, and he's the one calling the shots,
50:54
and he wears it so well. And I know that that was a big
51:00
big project in our department was creating that and it turned
51:04
out wonderfully, Did a great job right?
51:07
It's almost like he has like a heavy burden on his shoulders,
51:11
protecting this town which honestly, you know, in the past
51:14
he was one of the reasons why things maybe weren't going so
51:17
well as he was adding to the crime value of the town and now
51:21
he's really turned things around and I think he feels that burden
51:24
to kind of like rewrite the wrongs here which may be, why is
51:28
costumes a little bit more heavy?
51:30
I would say he looks great. I would love to try it on
51:35
Godspeed And we're getting to the end of the Mandalorian.
51:41
Let's talk about those last two episodes.
51:45
When I get back to Mandalore, I just have to say I my blood
51:48
pressure was very high for what two weeks.
51:52
The thanks a lot, Kevin and but also mob Gideon, brought some
51:59
surprises which I really did. Appreciate, he brought these
52:03
cool best gar Mandalorian look. Kinky Storm Troopers and the
52:09
praetorian guards are back from the Star Wars films which
52:12
they're very scary. Very cool.
52:14
Yeah. So when you all found out that
52:17
you're going to be doing the praetorian guards and these cool
52:20
Stormtroopers was everyone excited alone nervous a little
52:23
scared. I mean it's almost like a whole
52:25
new scary character. I can imagine her was rather
52:28
excited. It was very exciting.
52:31
I remember seeing some artwork that was shared with me and I
52:35
mean I knew what they Immediately and with stoked that
52:40
I was going to be sourcing fabrics for them as well.
52:44
It was an opportunity to continue these costumes through
52:47
the storyline of the Mandalorian but Sean is always looking for
52:51
ways to improve upon things that have existed and make them look
52:55
even better than they already do.
52:57
And for these particular characters, remember the skirts
53:03
that they were those skirt panels there was Has
53:06
conversation considerable conversation around.
53:09
What fabric would be appropriate for them again, they are doing
53:12
very involved. Action scenes where they're
53:16
moving around quite a bit and doing all sorts of stunts.
53:20
So it needed to be something that could withstand, that type
53:23
of Demands, but also they needed to to move properly when they're
53:30
just standing there and kind of shifting their weight around, it
53:33
needed to look substantial and have a certain Wait to it.
53:37
So I think that each costume provides its own challenges, you
53:41
know? But these ones were really,
53:45
really fun to make. And I mean, they're, they're
53:48
still badass the way that they look and read, you know, and
53:52
res. Another color that we don't
53:54
often see in Star Wars unless we're dealing with, you know,
53:58
the bad guys. So to say, read usually means
54:01
someone's fucked on. Down a notch or two, but the way
54:10
that they turned out was really great.
54:11
And even the base layer of what you see them wearing, it's a
54:17
shade of red as well. And I think it all came together
54:21
so beautifully and they just look so menacing.
54:24
They're so cool. Yeah, the second I saw him, I
54:27
was like, oh man, someone it's, it's end of the road for
54:30
somebody here in this episode tonight.
54:32
I don't know who, but they're so cool.
54:35
And yeah. I love the way that the skirt
54:37
moves specially cuz they do so many stunts and they're swinging
54:40
their weapons around. I love the way to costume moves
54:43
with them. And it's so cool seeing all of
54:45
the Stormtroopers. Well, I'm sure they have a
54:48
different name, but all these Troopers and the mandalorians
54:51
fighting on their jet packs. That was exciting action.
54:55
I don't know what you thought. Elizabeth II was?
54:57
Like, overwhelmed. I was like this, like I do feel
55:03
like I need to watch those two episodes again, because I was
55:05
like, This is like so much, everyone looks so cool and it's
55:10
all going too fast, right? Especially when spooky muff,
55:15
Gideon shows up and probably the sickest armor known to man when
55:20
I saw this man and that new Decked Out Mandalorian armor.
55:24
I was like again, like someone's not going to make it out of here
55:28
and it's just the sum of the coolest armor.
55:31
I think we've ever seen on the show and in the movies honestly,
55:34
it transcends. Just the He's I love the spikes
55:38
on his helmet. That is scary.
55:41
He looks menacing my God. Yeah.
55:44
Also I have to say I was one of those people that felt like
55:47
maybe the armor was a spy especially seeing the influence
55:51
in his helmet but I was proven wrong and I'm sorry.
55:54
Girl I definitely didn't trust you for an episode or two.
55:58
This these episodes had a searching, our feelings.
56:00
I was I was feeling it actually in theory just It spread like
56:05
wildfire. I remember like hearing about
56:08
that as obviously the episodes were airing and it's like, whoa,
56:12
this thing caught on quickly, people want answers immediately.
56:16
So well, I mean, that'll Orion was pinned down.
56:22
Someone had to answer for this. I want to know who is in trouble
56:26
here, but now it's just pesky, moff Gideon.
56:30
Just being himself. Yeah, definitely.
56:33
One of my favorite armors. Hours.
56:35
And with that, I think it's time to play our favorite game as
56:40
we're at the end of season 3 to Mandalorian.
56:43
Kevin, I read a play one costume to rule them all with us.
56:47
I believe. So I believe.
56:48
So, all right. Hit it.
56:51
Daniel. So one costume to rule them all.
57:01
Elizabeth. Why don't you go first?
57:04
Mine is an obvious one. It is the Mandalorian himself.
57:08
Then Karen. His updated armor.
57:12
It is cool. It is Sleek.
57:14
He has a great like monochromatic look going.
57:18
And he's like, I'm here to be the Bounty Hunter to save the
57:21
universe. So yeah, the crew especially
57:27
when you see season one, you see him now?
57:29
Akio appreciate how great his costume.
57:31
It is. Until you've seen like, the
57:32
trajectory it's been on, then you're like, okay, this guy's
57:35
decked out. Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
57:41
So I as predicted have changed my one costume, to rule them
57:46
all. I was going to say Ahsoka
57:51
because I love Ahsoka and just a moment of seeing her and I still
57:55
she's my favorite character, but I have to say that my one
57:58
costume ruled a Mall is actually Boca towns armor.
58:02
I just really love the colors and I just love how Shauna took
58:07
it from, you know, the cartoons Rebels and Clone Wars and really
58:10
brought it to life and just like every angle of the helmet and
58:14
those blues. And I remember the first moment
58:18
in season 2 where Boca tons wearing her helmet and she's
58:21
helping Mando out of the water and at Corinth ship and you just
58:24
kind of see like the glance of your helmet and you're like, oh
58:27
my gosh. This is that boat.
58:29
Time for, in terms of the costume, I would say, like,
58:32
that's probably my favorite constant right now.
58:36
And then I love the praetorian guards to.
58:38
I want one of those and, like, all black, if we could make that
58:41
happen, anyways, get right on that for you, or at least a
58:47
cosplayer. Kevin was your one costly rule
58:51
them all. So, there's so many to consider
58:54
and, well, quite a few from season 3, We are very close to
59:00
my heart and I do love them very much.
59:02
I think I have to choose a selca from season 2, there's something
59:07
about her costume that I absolutely love and I think
59:11
having seen her Jedi cloak in person is probably one of the
59:16
reasons why there's so much but it's, it's beautiful.
59:23
And yeah, I think that's my favorite one, but I think
59:27
runner-up is definitely the praetorian.
59:29
From season, 3 of men do because they just look so cool and I
59:34
worked on them, so I'll do it. Yeah, I mean ahsoka's costume,
59:42
definitely has like an energy about it.
59:44
I could imagine seeing that in person just falling down to your
59:47
knees. And with that, we are at the end
59:52
of this episode. Kevin thank you so much for
59:56
talking with us. It's been A real pleasure and
1:00:00
where can people follow you on social media?
1:00:03
Keep up with your journey. So, I have an Instagram account
1:00:06
that focuses on costume design and it's called iconic costume,
1:00:11
you can find me there. That's really where I live as
1:00:15
far as costume design is concerned.
1:00:17
So he's out there and thank you both for having me on this
1:00:22
episode today. It's been such a treat and
1:00:24
pleasure and it's just so fun to finally be able to Everything
1:00:29
with the world and to talk about it.
1:00:31
So thank you. Thank you.
1:00:32
Again, of course we're Beyond excited for you and I'm so happy
1:00:37
for you and I can't wait to see what else you're doing next.
1:00:40
I know you have a pipeline so stay tuned from ya later, I
1:00:45
promise upcoming space type so that might have something to do,
1:00:53
you know the big Galaxy out there so there's lots of stories
1:00:56
about so Stay tuned definitely read between the lines.
1:01:01
Thank you so much. Kevin, thank you.
1:01:03
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1:01:06
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Elizabeth what are we watching next week?
1:01:22
Next week? We are definitely changing it
1:01:26
up. We're doing a 180 and we are
1:01:31
going to watch burlesque different type of vibe very
1:01:41
different galaxies, we unfortunately, at the end of our
1:01:44
Star Wars month. But in our next episode, we are
1:01:48
gaining to our Cabaret esque burlesque month and we're
1:01:53
starting. I've been telling Elizabeth to
1:01:56
watch burlesque ever since we started as podcasts.
1:01:58
And I'm finally getting my wish. So, are you are after many, many
1:02:03
months of telling me, I need to watch it.
1:02:07
It's all the greatest movies of all time.
1:02:08
Kevin, have you seen it? I have seen.
1:02:10
Ashley saw it in the theater. I remember that when I came out
1:02:14
quite a while ago, but I have seen.
1:02:16
I think that's the only time I've ever seen it actually.
1:02:18
But I might not be able to re-watch now that you're both
1:02:22
going to be discussing it. So yeah, you're getting like the
1:02:25
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1:02:27
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1:02:30
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