Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #697 - Glasses Malone Talks Fat Joe, Tyler The Creator, Kanye, The Game, Akademiks, Snowfall Spinoff & More

Transcript

#697 - Glasses Malone Talks Fat Joe, Tyler The Creator, Kanye, The Game, Akademiks, Snowfall Spinoff & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: Hey guys, we just launched the membership side of the
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: YouTube channel, man. Subscribe, become a member for only $ 5
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: a month. You're going to get immediate access to our interviews,
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: no edits, uncut, no ads, nothing. Plus I'm going to
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: be doing exclusive weekly content. And I'm going to give
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: you guys a heads up on who's coming onto the show.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: And I want to give you guys an opportunity to
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: submit questions for the artists. All right. So if I say, hey,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: next week, we got too short.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: Coming on the show.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: As a member, you're going to be able to submit
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: a question, and if it's not trash, I'll use it
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: and shout you out on the interview, all right? So
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: hit subscribe and become a member. Five bucks a month, man.
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: It really goes a long way and supports what we're
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: doing at the Bootleg Cat Podcast, man.
• 0:42
  Speaker 3: Much love.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Let's get into the interview.
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: We're here at Glasses Malone.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: So Adam gave me an opportunity. He wanted me to host...
• 0:52
  Speaker 3: A political show. A pod. No, a pod.
• 0:54
  Speaker 4: A show he was doing with... It was a new
• 0:58
  Speaker 4: upstart artist.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: This was five years ago yes he wanted me to
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: co-host it with you guys right.
• 1:02
  Speaker 3: So and i said no the first person he um.
• 1:08
  Speaker 4: So he had this new personality this kid from somewhere
• 1:13
  Speaker 4: else named flocco and he had gina views yeah and
• 1:16
  Speaker 4: they were doing something together he said man just come
• 1:18
  Speaker 4: in and try it and i was like okay i'll
• 1:22
  Speaker 4: i really wasn't It wasn't Adam, because I thought Adam
• 1:26
  Speaker 4: was dope.
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: This is Adam, right?
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: Adam is a very smart, and he's a, whatever you
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: want to say about Adam, he's a very talented communicator.
• 1:33
  Speaker 4: But I'm saying even, he was more into the arts
• 1:35
  Speaker 4: at that point. He hadn't went all the way into
• 1:38
  Speaker 4: the culture by himself.
• 1:39
  Speaker 3: Right. He was more into the arts, right? So I
• 1:42
  Speaker 3: had sat down with him.
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: We talked about Tupac Must Die, and I just thought
• 1:45
  Speaker 4: he was a really articulate dude. He was well-spoken, and
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: he was just, he had a different fondness for the art.
• 1:51
  Speaker 4: He was working out at a bike shop. Now they
• 1:54
  Speaker 4: had moved to Burbank. So I go. I wasn't even
• 1:57
  Speaker 4: going to go because I'm like, I don't know what
• 1:59
  Speaker 4: that even looks like.
• 2:00
  Speaker 3: And Charlamagne was like, I'm telling you, man, you should go.
• 2:02
  Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, so I go.
• 2:04
  Speaker 1: Give it a shot.
• 2:05
  Speaker 3: Right? And I go. And I meet Flacco, right? I
• 2:10
  Speaker 3: barely saw him.
• 2:10
  Speaker 2: This is like early Flacco, by the way.
• 2:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is, this dude is, you know. him
• 2:15
  Speaker 3: and some guy spitting on.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: Each other from the Dakota.
• 2:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah him and some guy was spitting on each other
• 2:20
  Speaker 4: like little kids was it the.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: Other chubby guy with the hat and the glasses I.
• 2:23
  Speaker 4: Didn't watch enough of it but I saw that that
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: happened so we're talking and I'm listening to him talk
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: and it started to appeal to me like this might
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: have been the first black person that I ever like
• 2:38
  Speaker 4: had this kind of conversation with that wasn't from like
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: you could just tell he wasn't as cultured right Not
• 2:45
  Speaker 4: being a black man or being a man of African
• 2:47
  Speaker 4: descent or nothing, but he didn't.
• 2:50
  Speaker 3: Know shit about hip hop.
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right, right, right. Flaco, you mean.
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Not like he hasn't heard music, but he didn't
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: understand none of the inspiration.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 3:00
  Speaker 3: So I spent the whole kind of conversation.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Just talking to him.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Teaching him.
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, you know this, this. And I remember I
• 3:07
  Speaker 3: asked him, I'll never forget. I was like, have you
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: ever saw a black movie in the movie theater with
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: other black people? He was like, well, nah. Well, I
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: saw Black Planet. I'm like, Black Panther.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's not what I'm talking about.
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: And the whole show was just me just kind of
• 3:24
  Speaker 4: wondering like, wow, like, you know, this is where we
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: at today.
• 3:29
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? We're in the space. It's
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: like somebody who didn't grow up anywhere adjacent to.
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: You know, the lifestyle or nothing. And he had these
• 3:39
  Speaker 4: super grand opinions. And I was like, damn, this is Like,
• 3:43
  Speaker 4: I'll be all the whole time just trying to explain.
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: To him why.
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: Just trying to, like, explain why you're wrong or why.
• 3:48
  Speaker 1: You should feel the.
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: And to only realize that he's doing it on purpose.
• 3:54
  Speaker 4: That's part of his brand of entertainment as a storyteller.
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 3:59
  Speaker 3: As an orator. You know what I'm saying? So it
• 4:00
  Speaker 3: was like, huh.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: And that was four or five years ago.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: It was probably 2022.
• 4:05
  Speaker 3: Five, six, maybe.
• 4:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 4:07
  Speaker 3: 21, maybe. Yeah.
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: I wonder for you, like, because we were.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: that conversation started because I was saying how I think
• 4:15
  Speaker 1: you should be the biggest podcaster on the west coast
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: and nationwide for that matter but you aren't necessarily keen
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: to the idea of doing like interviews with just artists
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: no and that's just because why I.
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: Don't think they give a fuck about people at all
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think these dudes represent people I think they
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: just are. One thing I got from working on the
• 4:48
  Speaker 4: drop was there's a huge. This street urban cultural thing
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: we talk about based out of Southern California is very valuable.
• 4:58
  Speaker 3: I've always known that. And this show proves it. Right.
• 5:01
  Speaker 4: Not just the opportunity. Spellman FX and Disney gave me
• 5:05
  Speaker 4: to be a part of writing and consulting and even
• 5:08
  Speaker 4: a little acting.
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: But.
• 5:11
  Speaker 4: It validated something that I've been telling people for the last,
• 5:13
  Speaker 4: you know, six, seven years.
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, this thing is really valuable.
• 5:18
  Speaker 4: And when I listened to artists talk, early hip hop
• 5:23
  Speaker 4: was about the movement of we.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: That's what this show is too. We, us.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 5:28
  Speaker 3: These niggas is me. Right.
• 5:31
  Speaker 4: Me, whatever me, me, me, me. And I'm like, I
• 5:34
  Speaker 4: don't want to sit across nobody that's that fucking selfish.
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: Mm.
• 5:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, do you care about how you represent people
• 5:40
  Speaker 4: from your community? Like right now, I see the biggest
• 5:44
  Speaker 4: rise of coons and self-hating Negroes and people ignorant having
• 5:51
  Speaker 4: a huge opinion about something that they don't know the
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: first thing about.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: Now, I mean, that has kind of been the story
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: of the last five or six years is people have
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: very strong opinions on subjects that, one, they don't care about.
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: That's another thing.
• 6:04
  Speaker 1: But also you don't even know about. It's like people
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: who have these opinions about a rap battle or a
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: rap song or an album, but you don't even listen
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: to hip-hop.
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Like, your opinion.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: J. Cole said this earlier this year when the fall-off
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: came out. He was like, a lot of the opinions
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: that are coming out about the album are from people
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: who don't even listen to hip-hop. So, like, I wouldn't
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: have listened to their opinion 20 years ago I would
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: have listened to the opinion of the person who went
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: to the store and paid $ 18. 99 for the double album.
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: Because you bought the music. You're invested in the music,
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: and your opinion matters.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: Sure, as a fan, yeah.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: But when you just passively run through a body of
• 6:46
  Speaker 1: work without even being a hip-hop head, for real, you
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have listened to it if it wasn't for free?
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: Even deeper, I want to hear the opinion of people
• 6:52
  Speaker 3: who it represents.
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: Right. Fair.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? That's hip-hop to me. Right.
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: Does the music represent that cultural... place you know that
• 7:04
  Speaker 4: group of people and it's fine the internet has social
• 7:07
  Speaker 4: media you know by way of the internet has allowed
• 7:10
  Speaker 4: people to find their people you know i mean like
• 7:15
  Speaker 4: it's tons of strange and different things where people connect
• 7:20
  Speaker 4: with it you know i'm saying and social media has
• 7:24
  Speaker 4: allowed them to find it and some rappers are born
• 7:27
  Speaker 4: from this some rappers are really born from that connection.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: From and also they're born i mean obviously.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: You know, I think.
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: When we think of early hip hop, you kind of
• 7:38
  Speaker 1: had to be from a certain background to get certain
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: like quote unquote credibility. Sure.
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: You had to represent some street urban cultural movement.
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: So it's like now the internet has like made this
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: thing so accessible. And furthermore, just like the ability to
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: make music so much easier.
• 7:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: As to where back in the day, you had to
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: figure out how to save money to go to the
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: studio and there was real to real. And now it's like, well,
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: I got a homie with.
• 8:00
  Speaker 3: A focus, right? He still has laptop. Right. Download the software.
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: I always say, I think Kanye, obviously Kanye's from Chicago,
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: but he came from a nice home.
• 8:10
  Speaker 3: It's a very unique situation.
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: Because I think Ye was one of the first guys
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: that made it commercially on a level that made everybody
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: who was just kind of a normal dude with a
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: job at The Gap be like, oh shit, this is relatable.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: because not everybody was selling drugs.
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: I always said that, but I hate the feeling that
• 8:30
  Speaker 4: before Kanye West, we didn't have guys.
• 8:33
  Speaker 1: No, there were.
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: I'm saying, I'm talking about uber successful guys, like, right? Tribe.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, De La Soul, Tribe Called Quest. But I'm
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: talking about, like, Kanye was, like, face of hip-hop successful.
• 8:43
  Speaker 3: Sure, but I think.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Like, Native Tongues and, like, even, like, even Public Enemy.
• 8:47
  Speaker 4: But I don't want to scoop... Public Enemy was the
• 8:50
  Speaker 4: face of hip-hop at one time, right?
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: No, I'm saying, but even Public Enemy, you didn't go
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: back 100%.
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: So we've had guys....
• 8:56
  Speaker 4: That have represented every facet of street urban culture and
• 9:00
  Speaker 4: really successful guys. Remember the first huge face of hip
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: hop guy is probably Jay-Z, selling drugs, right? Like before that,
• 9:10
  Speaker 4: people didn't really- Maybe LL.
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think LL presented as a D-boy.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: No, no, but I mean, oh, you're talking about the
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: first face that was a D-boy.
• 9:18
  Speaker 4: Where you felt like you knew Fair. This is him. G-Rap,
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: to me, was a D-boy in his own right.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Wu-Tang talked about it. Well, G-Rap was very, if you know,
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: Hov is the fulfillment of Nino Brown. I always say
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: Hov is the fulfillment of Mainstream's infatuation with Nino Brown.
• 9:40
  Speaker 4: And I feel like Snoop is the world's infatuation with Rocket.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: 100%.
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: I don't think they were always, there was always street regular,
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: like LL's a regular guy. Right? So I agree with you.
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: I think Kanye kind of, I always say this, like,
• 9:59
  Speaker 4: he became the first person where I was like, honestly,
• 10:06
  Speaker 4: more than anything, I feel like the first, I always
• 10:08
  Speaker 4: say this and people get upset and I'm sure I'm
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: going to take some shit, but I feel like the
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: first three albums were more like, I'm going to do
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: what I think y'all want to be representing.
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about this before.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: I think, though, like... I think Kanye just is like
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: a very, very perfect example of a kid who grew
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: up like a boom bap head, a tribe head, and
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: like turned that into like, I mean, like the sped
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: up soul samples, it was him and Just Blaze who
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: kind of coined that, you know?
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: Which is odd, right? Because that's a very... It's a
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: very hip hop thing. I don't know if it's a.
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: He made it a hip hop thing. Because I think
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: you kind of strip the soul. I think you make
• 10:46
  Speaker 4: it pop music when you take all of the soul
• 10:47
  Speaker 4: out of the voice. And it becomes like a plugin
• 10:50
  Speaker 4: version of what you're listening to. Like you ever use
• 10:53
  Speaker 4: like a plugin, like a tape plugin versus a real tape.
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of like the idea of this thing, right?
• 11:01
  Speaker 4: They try to emulate the sounds. It's almost an AI
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: version of it. And that's what I feel like, like
• 11:06
  Speaker 4: even like a song like Through the Wire with Chaka Khan,
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: it made it more digestible for people listening that didn't
• 11:12
  Speaker 4: care about soul initially. Like it was a reminiscent idea
• 11:15
  Speaker 4: of soul.
• 11:16
  Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying? Like part of soul is
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: the body.
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was also something we hadn't really heard.
• 11:20
  Speaker 1: So I think it was a unique, catchy version of
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: like sampling.
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: It was people that did it, but he made it
• 11:27
  Speaker 4: a thing.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: Him and Just Blaze did it too.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, shout out to Just.
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: And then Heat Makers after.
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: But I think there were guys before, but I think he,
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: Kanye understood what people wanted.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: You already know, baby, our family at Odd Socks. They
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: have been rocking with the Bootleg Head podcast since day one.
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: And listen, man, the basics have been killing it. All right.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: Whether you're into the ankle socks, the quarter socks, the
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: tube socks, black, white, whatever it is, Odd Socks basics.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: These are the most comfortable socks that you will ever
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: put on your feet. And I've been saying that for years.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: And I mean, it's the only socks I wear, the
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: only socks in my house. And Obviously, there's competing brands
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: that you might be used to wearing the white tube socks. Listen,
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: not only are these better, they're more affordable and they're
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: more comfortable. And when I say more affordable, I'm not playing.
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: You could get yourself a six pack just like this
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: for only $ 16. 99. And the good thing about Odd Socks,
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: they now got the subscription service too. So if you
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: just want fresh, clean socks delivered every single month, they'll
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: take care of you there. Odd Socks Basics. Go to oddsocks.com.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: That's right. Head over to oddsocks.com. Use the promo code
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: BOOTLEG at checkout. You will save 20% off. Trust me
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: when I say the basics. Listen, I don't care if
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: it's Snoop Dogg and his team, The Alchemist, anybody, Freddie,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: everybody who gets these socks, hit me like, yo, tell
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: Odd Socks we need a new box. The basics, the basics,
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: the basics, all right? Oddsocks.com.
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: Use the promo code BOOTLEG.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: Save 20% off.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the interview.
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: To me, he's like, he had us studied and measured.
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: He had, you know, black America studied and measured. Like
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: he waited.
• 13:06
  Speaker 3: He said, this is where I can get in that.
• 13:08
  Speaker 3: Cause right. Kanye ain't no fucking backpack guy at all.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: Never was, never will be. Now I'm not saying he
• 13:13
  Speaker 3: wasn't a fan of some backpack.
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, the first time I saw him on tour,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: he opened up for to live quality and gang star.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: But I think that's all with intentions.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: No fair, fair. Right. But I think he always was
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: the polo guy.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, but polo and backpack don't necessarily- You know
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: what I'm saying?
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: You always talk about his Louis V backpack.
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: And he was always on the nerdy side of what
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: we'd have considered hip-hop. Because I remember back then, people
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: would be like, yo, this motherfucker's a nerd. He's gay.
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: He's wearing pink polos.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Nobody's dressed him like that.
• 13:44
  Speaker 4: But I think he understood what he was doing. And
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: I think he understood what he represented. I remember he
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: felt like he wasn't street enough because he's not black enough.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: That was something that came out of his mouth. Like, oh,
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: I'm not street enough, so I'm not black. And it's like, bro,
• 13:59
  Speaker 4: that's not how that works. But I definitely think he was.
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody that had us like black America
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: weighed and measured as well.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: And then like.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Like Pharrell's another guy who like was on that kind of.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: He was, he fashionably, like, he made, I think him
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: and Stevie Williams and a lot of these guys made skateboarding, like,
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: cool in urban communities. Whereas before, I feel like, I mean,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: there used to be this, when I was growing up
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: in the 90s, there was, like, this big divide between, like, quote, unquote, skaters.
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: So it wasn't like that in L.A.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, in Arizona, we was hating on the skaters. It
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: was like, it was like a thing. It was like,
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: We had movies like Rad.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: Yo, we, you know.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah i mean also this is this is the birthplace
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: of yeah this is the birthplace of a lot of.
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: That but i do think pharrell is integral you know
• 14:49
  Speaker 4: i mean for you know bringing it over like wayne
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: did it for a generation.
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: So yeah i just i just feel like um.
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: Yay became like he i he had us measured really
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: well he had us weighed and measured like well he
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: knew what he was doing.
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Um That's why I like the second half of his music.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: I don't really... I love.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: By the way, me too.
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: Because I feel like... Because he's a very me motherfucker.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: My third favorite album of his is Yeezus.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Like, see, he's the prime example of somebody that I
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: wouldn't want to talk to. Because he's going to say
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: something that's going to make me be like, yeah, I'm
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: not fucking with you.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, almost like would rather just fuck with you from
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: a distance.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Just keep the music going.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Because if you get too close to the fire, you're
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: going to be like, ah, I can't fuck with this.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: Then I'm going to cuss you out.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: And we've seen that happen with a lot of people.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, I'm doing a pod with you, bro. Like,
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: how you walked in on Ag with that Ku Klux Klan,
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: because I.
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: Would have fought him. I was diabolical.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: I'd have started fighting him. You know what I'm saying? Like,
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: I'd have been in a fight.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: You know, we'd have been physically fighting. And then, you know....
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: Well, what do you think about... Because I saw him
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: two nights here in L.A. at SoFi.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: And the second night was the greatest concert I've ever
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: been to.
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: Sure. And....
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: I think that obviously Kanye has had mental issues.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: He's bipolar.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: And I think he has had... We've seen him in
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: the middle of manic episodes many times again. It seems
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: like he has gotten... The amount of grace that we
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: give Kanye feels like it exceeds any other artist that
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: has done or said some of the hurtful things he's
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: done or said.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Now, mind you, I am fully.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: On the side where I've known people who have mental
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: disorders where they're not the same person. And they'll say shit.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: They'll lean into hurting you.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts just on his renaissance this year
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: and just the amount of grace, the culture, certain people.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Not everybody.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I'm not.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: But certain people give someone like Kanye because we love
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: him so much.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm grateful for the forgiveness. You know what
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I think that's important for people to forgive people. I'm
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: not fucking with Ye.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You know what I mean?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Could he have a conversation with you to make you
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: maybe understand his.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: I think he'd lie. Yeah.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I think he would lie. He's by far one of
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: the greatest artists we've ever seen. He's more researched and
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: studied than probably anybody.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: He is so researched and studied. He could do just
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: about anything. He's in my top five. You know what
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: He's my favorite artist.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I'm just not.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Fucking with him.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I think he's full of shit. How great of an
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: artist he is, you know what I mean? It's cool,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: but if you don't represent the people, if you don't
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: care about people, if you don't represent the people, I'm
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: not fucking with that. First time it start being you
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: over the people and you don't give a fuck about
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: us and you just going... wear a Klan outfit, you're
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: going to just start, you know, because I don't think
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: these things are necessarily just related to just a mental disorder.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I think there's an effort where you stop caring about
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: what people think and feel. And I think there's a
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: real fine line. And I think Ye knows where to
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: cross it. And, you know, him being this fantastic artist
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: has always bought a level of.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Like, grace. But I'm glad some people are forgiving him
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: because we all deserve forgiveness.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I see a guy like Big Sean coming out
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: during the Chicago set. And I'm like, okay, well, maybe
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Sean knows Kanye better than I know Kanye.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Better than we all do, right?
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And he said some hurtful things about Sean.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: And if Sean... It's the same thing with Kid Cudi.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Kid Cudi got into a back and forth on Twitter
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: where he was like, I know this guy. I understand
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: where he was mentally. So it's like... I mean, it's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: everybody's you know, prerogative to, like you said, forgive or not,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: or not.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I'm glad he's earned forgiveness with some of those people.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just not a, I don't even know what, what
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: could he say? It's like, what do you say to somebody?
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: You know, do you wear a Ku Klux Klan outfit? Like,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: what do you say?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: It's a wild thing to.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Just die. It just makes, it was, yeah, that's the one, like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: obviously he has on bleep, please again. Um, but, That
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: was the thing where you were like, oh, this fool's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: on a sick, he just, he's on a sick one.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, I just, I just think.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine being an academic till the door opens?
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: I think, I think as a creative, you know what
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I'm saying? Like he just, you know, as a creative
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: and as a study man, there's no lines he won't cross.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And to me, that's a problem.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's probably, you know, the more I think
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: about it, where it's like something ain't rubbing me right way.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: He don't have a line.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like if he feels strongly enough about anything,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a line he'll cross or he won't
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: cross to get his point across in what he believes
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: is the best way.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And that becomes, like, selfish. Right. You're not of people.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So, you know what I mean? And maybe.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've been supporting this motherfucker his whole career.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: I've been buying all his records. I've been a fan.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: He ain't going to miss my fucking money.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: He'll be all right. He got enough money from everybody else.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I did see, we always have this conversation about what
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: is and is not hip hop. There was a recent
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: clip of Ray Daniels talking about Eminem not being hip hop. Well,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you, is Eminem hip hop? Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Eminem ain't black. He's hip hop, though.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Right. What is it? Because you'll say Drake isn't hip hop. Obviously,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Eminem had a upbringing in a very poor area.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: It's not just poor because there's rural poor places. I mean,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: but Eminem's from a street urban cultural background right now.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: Some street urban cultural backgrounds ain't necessarily too friendly with
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: black people anyway. But Eminem is very much from a
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: street urban cultural background. Like he you know, he's not
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: behind on that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because he was saying, well, Eminem
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: never had to do what all the black artists had
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to do. And I guess my thing with Em is
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I feel like, obviously on the TRL side and the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: MTV side and rock stations playing him side, that's different.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Because him being white helped him there. But I feel
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: like on the hip hop side, on this side of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the line where it's culture, he had to be that
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: much harder than everybody to really kind of get I.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Don't think Eminem was that much better than everybody. So
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: Eminem raps as good as rap can happen.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: So once you enter into that arena, you start splitting hairs.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. So it's like, what's the difference between
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Eminem and Black Thought or Royce Da 5'9?
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Or even at Nas, Jay-Z, Kendrick Lamar.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, they're all very much in the same.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, because there's some guys who dribble the ball well.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Then there's guys who actually just MVP games. So I
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: think Eminem is somebody, to me, that is as good
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: as rap can happen.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's as good of a rapper as possible.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: Sure, right? And that's fine.
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Whether or not you thought he was better than Jay-Z
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: or better than Snoop or better than Kendrick Lamar, even
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: if you thought he was better, he's not 8 million
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: records better.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: That's our opinion.
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure. But I'm saying there is an appeal because Sure,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: he's a white man. You know what I mean? That's
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: just the world. That's America. You know what I mean?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And the first white guy we saw rap as good
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: as you can rap. There were some good white rappers,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: but nobody that could rap as good as rapping as possible. Yeah.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, that motherfucker's dope. I mean, he's shit. You
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Yeah, he's hip-hop, bro.
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: But it's just odd, right? Because you're... People look at
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: hip hop so much like a black thing. So, you know,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Eminem even kind of to me has like the concept
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: of like being a visitor and it's like, nah, you're
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: just not black.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: But, you know, there are some things that work well.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I think Eminem acts a little more, you know, like
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: towards a white man. He understood, he understood the assignment
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: as well.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Like he put on for poor white street kids.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he had the white America.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like poor white street kids.
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: So I think he had a, I think Ray is
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: right in a sense that there are certain things Eminem
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: is going to get. That's completely different than, you know,
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: a black artist in America. It's America, but him being
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: hip hop is for sure. Probably one thing that's not
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: in question.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I also think the idea that a black
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: artist couldn't do like a cleaning out my closet song. When,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: if you kind of like fast forward and like you,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Kendrick dropped an entire two disc album that was about
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: like mental health and therapy and shit.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Like, I think that we've kind of evolved so much
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to where like being vulnerable in your music. It's like if-
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: We always were. I don't even know. That's like a
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: new concept.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman But think about DMX, right? Like if you look,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it's like- Rob Markman She's Tupac.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Scarface.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman Yeah. Dear Mama.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: Rob Markman One of the oldest mental health songs I
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: remember is Mind Playing Tricks.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Rob Markman Mind Playing Tricks on me.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Rob Markman So it's like- Rob Markman But I mean,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: even just from like a personal perspective, it's like if
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you start like kind of like assigning like, well, nobody
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: can make a song about, I'm sorry, Mama.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: If they were black.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, bro, that's, that's not, that's like a pretty,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that's just not true. Because then you, because, because then
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: you had DMX who would, who did a record about,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: I think so. So there's two things, right? Yeah.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: This is going to sound fucked up, but the way
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: people that come up from the streets feel about their
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: mother is different.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like Eminem trashing his mom
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: and shit. Oh, yeah.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Nobody can do the raping and killing of your mother.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So not just all that, just the whole fuck
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: my moms.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Except Cam'ron.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: I want to be clear.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Cam'ron has a song, Confessions of Fire, where he talks
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: about getting his aunt pregnant and fucking raping his aunt.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sick, man. But for sure, shout out to Cam.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: But no, I'm saying, right, it's like, There are some
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: things to me, like I'll never forget, I was actually
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: in a spot selling some drugs, some crack.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: And Eminem, the video, came on television. Welcome. Put your
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: hands together and get to clapping them. And it's this
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: little white kid walking into this trailer park, sneaking a
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: sip of what looks like some liquor. And the grandmother.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: catching him, walking behind him, and obviously disciplining him, slapping
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: him upside the head, like, what do you think you're doing?
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: And he runs out, and he comes back as full-grown Eminem.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: And he starts choking his grandmother. Yeah, you're not getting
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: away with that with us.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: But part of brands and cultural phenomenons is fulfilling norms,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: things that we think of shit.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Eminem was everything we thought of poor white trash.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Is he eligible to be in the GOAT conversation?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Because that was the other thing. Well, he's not eligible
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: to be on the GOAT because he didn't have to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: do everything.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Of course he is.
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there is a ton of white people around
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: the world, and there's some black people around the world
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: that think Eminem is the greatest of all time, and.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: It's a fair argument.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Tyler the Creator thinks that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, dude is phenomenal. He's a phenomenal guy. He's not
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: no run-of-the-mill motherfucking rapper.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: He's top 10.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's the top 10 guy no matter
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: how you put it, and a lot of people.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Would have him higher than that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: Sure. I think that's the point.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: But I understand also when black folk look like, bro,
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: I don't relate to none of that shit. Most of
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: y'all don't relate to Jay-Z, and he finds a place
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: to connect it, but I'm actually, you know, not just
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: being a fan of Eminem, but I look at some
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: shit he does.
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yo, I can't do that as a rapper.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But you probably can look at shit Tyler, the creator,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: does and be like, I can't do that as a rapper.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Tyler is a little different. Tyler is super duper dope.
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: But Tyler also will say anything.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: No, but that's what I'm saying. But that was kind
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: of like he's.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying not like.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Especially like 10 years ago, Tyler.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Do I think Tyler is as nice as him?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: No.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Tyler is dope. Tyler is probably like right outside of
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: that door. Yes.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Like outside of that door. Ability.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like rap as good as rap can happen. Tyler
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: is quite not there, but there.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Now, he might be inside of the door in terms
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of ability to make rap as good as you can
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: make rap because he has grown... Nah, not there.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: I think from Flower Boy on.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: No, no, he's a phenomenal dude.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: He is in that combo.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And you really, to me, you get his.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: how phenomenal he is when he does freestyles over other
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: people's shit. You'd be like, oh, this motherfucker get busy.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: But I think he's outside of that door. I don't
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: think he's in the same white door.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I think in today's arena, he is in the door. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I think Chromacopia and Don't.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Tap the Glass.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't put him in the same room as, let's say,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Kendrick or J.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Cole as far as being a rapper as good as
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: rap can happen.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Now, the ability of rapping, I'd agree with you.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, but.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Now, putting together good music, I think he's in the
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: door with both those guys.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: But that's what rapping is. Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, then I got to put him in the door.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. He's not as good as Eminem.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. You said Kendrick and J. Cole.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying Kendrick and J.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Cole... Let's say 2026. Eminem's not really active.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Kendrick and J. Cole are as good as rap can happen.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: They're in that door.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Right? I think Cole is like... right outside of that door.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: He's like at the door, but he's in. Yeah. Don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: get me wrong. I'm not demoting him. I'm saying that's
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: a very small room full of people. J.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Cole is incredible, man.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: He's got my favorite album of the year.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Jay-Z and there's some guys. You know what I mean?
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: There's some guys. You're talking all time now, so I
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: agree with you. I think Tyler's right outside the door.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: Now, for today, right, of today's elk, you know, okay,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: if I had to compare him to a basketball player,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Tyler is like, like he's Hall of Fame, right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: He's first ballot.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: He's Tim Duncan, right?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: No, no, he's not that good. J. Cole is Tim Duncan. Oh,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: you're right. You're right. You're right.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: That's a great, that's a great.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: He's like Jalen Brunson.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: You kind of never really tripped off of it, right?
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: But you kind of notice it, right? You see the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: field goal deficiency and doubt. You're like, damn, this motherfucking
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: little dude shooting 50 plus percent.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: And you watch him hoop.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: You can see early on coming in like, oh, he's special.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: And then he hooping in big time shows. You're like, damn.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I can see that.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? He's an all-time great for sure.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, I'm not ready to put him
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: where Nas is. jay i know.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Neither am i let me be clear neither am i
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: but but he is knocking he is knocking he's right
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: there yeah he is that dude is sharp.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And as long as he's been relevant it's been 2010
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: when i mean yonkers came out 2010 11 like to
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: now yeah and it feels like it just keeps growing
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and getting bigger and you know shout out to uh
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to tyler um your thoughts on fat joe in the n-word.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Oh, shit. I think whoever don't like Fat Joe saying
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: this shit, fight him. Yeah?
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: That's what I would, you know. If I didn't like
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: somebody saying something to me, that's what I would do.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's, because it feels like this
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: thing becomes a story every, like, two years?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Sure, right now, yeah. Because it's online, you know what
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: I'm saying? I think Fat Joe is somebody that's very approachable.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: And he's also, like, my whole thing is, like, him
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: and Big Pun were saying it in the early 90s.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not the police of the N-word.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I am a white man in this culture, so. But
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I always just wonder, like, I guess that Joe Budden
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: interview was hilarious when he was.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm the blackest person in the world.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Funniest, by the way, all-time soundbite.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: See, I would talk to Fat Joe.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Because Fat Joe is fucking funny. But Fat Joe couldn't.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Joe. I'll just start asking niggas some questions.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: First off, what year was Malcolm X? You're going to
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: have to show me some blackness.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: You can't be the blackest nigga in the room if
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: you don't know nothing about black shit.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That shit was the funniest shit, though. Just as a
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: specific two seconds.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: We had to run some black dialogue past you, brother.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: You got to answer some questions about black men in
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: the past. But I think that's always been a New
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: York conversation.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Right. And even certain areas of the Bay, I feel
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: like have their- Shit in LA.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: LA too.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Texas. Texas. Yeah, like a lot of Texas Mexicans will
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: say the N-word. In the Bay, a lot of Filipinos
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: say it.
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: So I think that's a conversation people should have with
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: the person as they cross it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: But, you know, obviously the Internet finds something amazing.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I think what you said earlier a little bit
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: about hip-hop being equated to blackness.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: It's just second nature. It just almost goes hand in hand.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: But you were saying that, like, it isn't.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I know, but to some.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I see the way Fat Joe, his approach is, I'm
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: ground floor hip-hop.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: Sure. I've been with niggas my whole life. This is
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: what I've been doing, blah, blah, blah. But again, it's like,
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: I think every time, you know, I think there are
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: some things that he gonna think about, you know what
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: No matter what, how he feels. I think, you know,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: I think he hears people saying it's bothering him, bothering them.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: So I think Joe is the kind of person that's
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: gonna be mindful of that.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: But.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: I think these are real conversations that should happen outside.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Right. Because I think.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: One thing about being in this business, working on this show,
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: being in entertainment, all of the above, working on The Drop,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: it's a lot of things that's said on the internet
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: that just won't be said in real life. So I
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: think if somebody asked Fat Joe in real life, you
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? I think it would affect him differently. Like,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: if people are really bothered by it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not the kind of guy who wants to
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: hurt people's feelings.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: He's a good guy. Like, he doesn't want to.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: So I think people should talk to him about that
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: as they see him.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like for something like that, it's almost
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: once it gets through the Bronx filter, outside of the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: people from the Bronx, it's like, this is how he
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: was raised.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: It's a lot of people that just don't understand that.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I think we also forgot that J-Lo got an N-bomb
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: off too on a song with J-Lo.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: I've been hearing it the whole time.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: I guess I never looked twice because I think most people,
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I grew up in a time where this is going
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: to sound crazy, but Puerto Ricans was black.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Unless they was like from the Puerto Rican part of
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: town where they didn't, they only spoke Spanish. So now
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: we're at a place where black people are very much
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: stingy with what they believe blackness is. And, you know, again,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: every time we arrive at times throughout history where people
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: feel like they want to change, it's up to Fat
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: Joe to have that conversation and figure out where does
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: he want to change or does it matter to him?
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see him stand with the Mark Lamont
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: Hill guy.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: Man, he would.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: The crazy part about I'm probably the perfect person to
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: talk to Fat Joe about that.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Right. I don't even think Mark is equipped.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: See, that's why we've just landed on why you need
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a platform.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Sure, sure.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: We'll go to fly to New York, get you to
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: sit down with Joe.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: Fat Joe, me and Fat Joe can have that conversation.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: You can talk about the Thicker Than Water movie with
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Matt Penn.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Sure, they don't know about that, right? And then we
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: can get into it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: But I think I'm probably a better person to have
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: that conversation. Because it's got to be some level of
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: street in the conversation.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Right. Right.
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: Um, But I think Fat Joe, like, I think he's
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: feeling a fair amount of concern. Yeah, where it's like,
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: not pressure, because I don't think he takes it serious.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it was that one soundbite that he's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: got to kind of be like, look, I was just.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: He obviously is trolling.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Right. Right?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: But I'd have ran down the whole black history on
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: his ass right there. Hey, cuz, wait a minute. So, nigga,
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: when was Martin Luther... Like, you had to tell me. Nigga,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: when was Martin Luther King's... When is.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Martin Luther King dead?
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: Nigga, tell me something.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Where did they kill him at?
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: You want to be down, nigga?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Black is.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You mean hip-hopping is... But Fat Joe is a fool, man.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: He's fucking funny.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: One of the funniest motherfuckers alive.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's a fucking real-life troll as a fucking adult.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: His podcast is my, I mean, in the hip-hop space,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: it's my favorite.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: I've heard him talk about shit, and I'm like, oh,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: this motherfucker Fat Joe really adapted to trolling.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: For sure. I just think he just has always kind
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: of been this funny guy, and now we just see
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: him on camera. And Jadakiss is the perfect balance, throwing
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the flag and shit.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jadakiss is great. They great. They great.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: You already know Arizona, man. The Bootleg Head Podcast brought
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to you by our partners at Raffy Law Group.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Now, we love Raffy Law Group, man. Arizona's premier personal
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: injury firm.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: What I love about Raffy is they're so dependable, so trustworthy,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: and they get the job done. They've helped over 70,000 Arizonans.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I know you see the billboards everywhere. I know you
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: can't avoid seeing my man Raffy's face everywhere, but it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: because he is the absolute best, all right?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: He's helped my wife.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Get through an accident situation got her paid my mother-in-law
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: same situation my best friend's parents just used raffi and
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: got a big payday so make sure if you get
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: into an accident if you need help all right it
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: could be an accident it could be a slip and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: fall it could be any personal injury situation they're gonna
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: take care of it all right all you gotta do
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: is call raffi you know what it is man call
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: raffi six two three 388-4333. Rafi Law Group. The only
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: personal injury law firm that we will ever rock with
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: right here on the Blue Lake Head podcast.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You play in the show.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Obviously, for people who don't know, you're part of the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: show The Drop, which is a Snowfall spinoff. It's been
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: done very, very well. For anybody who hasn't seen it,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: even the way they shot it, it feels like a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: 90s movie. If you were to watch Menace to Society,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a filter they use on
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: the film or if they're using the old cameras. But
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: it feels like the time piece. Because Snowfall didn't feel
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that way.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: We had incredible directors.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: So in the episode, you're in your Voltron?
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Voltron is my character.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Do you pick the name?
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. As an ode to one of my older
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: homies that passed away. Shout out to Steve. Rest in peace.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: Steve is like a real general from around the way.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: And it's like the curl just made me think of him.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: Just a different time. But I consulted, wrote on it.
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: The acting part was something they kind of slid in
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: on me at the end.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, bro.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: But being there, watching how much effort, like Gail, Isaiah,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: like all the actors, right?
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: Brandon, Peyton, Asante.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Dude, even the rapper homies, like Buddy killed it. Simba
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: killed it.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: Watch Simba episode two.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Simba's good.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: No, no, no. You ain't. No, no, no.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I've seen it. Oh, yeah.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: You need to see it. boy i'm talking about the
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: whole time.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: No so i got they sent me to the first
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: two episodes like on like a i remember yeah yeah
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: but then i saw simba and we watched he was
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: we're at the jay cole show he's like yo like
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: i was like when i saw it we watched it simba's.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah but he ended up going insanely crazy like I
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: keep calling him crazy, man, because I really just think
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: about how he morphs into this character. It was to
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: the point Buddy was riding a bike. He was in
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: character the whole time.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: On the lot, he's in character. He's doing shit on
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: the lot in character. He's riding a bike to the set.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Whose idea is it for you to be involved?
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Who makes the initial call?
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Jimmy Chris, Jim Bob, and.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Jim Bob.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: That is a white.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Is that a white man?
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: That's a brother.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Dog, Jim Bob feels so West Virginia.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: And he knows how to fucking move. Like the white
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: folks at FX loving.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Fucking Jim Bob, man.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: And Malcolm Spellman, man. It was really their brainchild.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: So they hit you and they're like, hey, we're working
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: on this.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Problem, problem, kept talking to them.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And so problem was already involved.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: So problem was already writing all the music.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Pete. So he's writing all the music.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: And Jim Bob had already told me like, gee, I
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: got something for you. and I had met Michael Spellman
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: and different people. I did another project for him. Um,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: it required me going to Campanella park at 1230 in
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: the morning to shoot a documentary at the park. And, um,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: I guess they just really enjoyed how I handled myself. And, uh,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: you know, the Campanellas didn't kill me. Shout out to
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: the camps for having grace for me and letting me
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: be at a park at 1230 in the morning.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Being a crip, you know what I'm saying?
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: But, uh, They did that project together and it was,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I think, my contributions was really dope and moving.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: To this one it was like um.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Problem had already got chosen to write all the raps
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: rance was already doing all the music um and they
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: were filling out consultant spots and they had uh skip
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: skip townsend you know one of the better uh historians
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: when it comes to la street urban culture that we
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: have you know him kev mack different guys they had
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: some really other great guys right they had jimmy chris
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: they had jim bob right he was vested and they
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: wanted me to do it and it started off as
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: just an executive consultant role and then as i started
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: making i start going to the writer's room they noticed
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: my ability and started allowing me to contribute in that
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: facet they slid the acting shit on me last but
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I got the confidence from helping different actors to understand exactly.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: What to do. the role they were playing. Whose idea
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: is it for the jerry curl? Because the jerry curl...
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I think Spellman did that shit on purpose.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: How long does it take to get a jerry curl
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: on G Malone's head in makeup?
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: An hour.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: An hour?
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: An hour or two.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Do you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: get inspired to start growing it out?
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: It got so serious, bro.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: I had a lady, shout out to that young lady,
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: I don't remember her name, but she was following me around.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: I had to keep my curl activated, bro. She just
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: followed me around. I was like, you got to keep
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: this shit moist.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, so she would just... Every time, you.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Know what I mean?
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: Just get me right. And every scene, my shit was dripping.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: It was just stains on my jacket.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: It was a player.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: I wanted to represent all of the legends of LA
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: that had curls, the gangsters, my older homies.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Moon. Moon had a curl. Shady, I think,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: had a curl. My dad had a curl.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: So obviously this takes place like early 90s. In the
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: early 90s, I mean, I know you're older than me,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: but not much older than me.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: So obviously you're probably early 90s. You're a kid.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That time I'm about 11.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because obviously you have probably OGs
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: who could speak more to the accuracy and the feel
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: of the show. Have you gotten that feedback from people
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to say like, hey, this really nailed it?
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: Part of it is not only just being a witness,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: but even asking questions why.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: So when I talk about hip hop as it pertains
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: to this artistic merit, it's like part of understanding, like
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: there's people who just do it naturally, right?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Because that's what we do.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Tons of gang members that grew up culturally. And it's
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: just what you do.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: It's different when you're that person asking why. I figured
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: out why we wore Dickies. I figured out why we
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: wore Chucks. I figured out why we wore Cortez. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: figured out why we low ride. I figured out how
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: these wars happened amongst men, how these people started to fight.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: I figured out why we started wearing blue. I figured
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: out why we use the term cuz.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: I started to learn everything about this thing i.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Was a part of you were able to even just
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: for you get more before i did the show okay
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: okay so you.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Were like just existing got it so just being a
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: historian and seeing the same wonders and and and poor
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: black people and this thing that we created as people
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: see in the mafia.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: 100 right like people well and then the mafia is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: so overly dot because as much as.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: We think like the gang shit in LA is overly documented.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: It's really not.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: And compared to like.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: It's not even remotely close.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: It's not even close. All the shit we see about
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: every mafia family and.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: We don't even have a gang movie when you really
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: think about it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: In Vegas, there's a mafia museum.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: It's the flyest thing. I thought that was dope. But
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: I'm a fan of all street urban culture. So when
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: you watch Colors, Colors is not.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: A movie on gangs. It's a movie on the relationship
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: between the older police and the younger police.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: With the backdrop of LA.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Just in LA, and here go some gangs. Boys in
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: the Hood, right?
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: Shout out to John. Rest in peace, John Singleton. It's
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: really a movie about fatherhood in the ghetto.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Right. Here's this boy with a father. He's out of control.
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: Mom takes him to the dad.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: And here's these two boys that don't have a dad.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: And you see how their lives turn out completely different.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: That's the movie. The movie don't really tell you much
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: about gangs, but people feel like it's a gang movie.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: South Central. South Central. Right?
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: That's a movie about a dude that goes to prison
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: and is like, yo, I gotta be a dad. The
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: movie Godfather is a fucking gangster movie. It is not
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: about nothing else but gangster shit. Everybody coming to prominence
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: on gangster shit. And we don't have that when it
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: comes to Los Angeles or Southern California.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: Street urban culture.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Is there a movie close?
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: No. Boys in the Hood is, I mean, excuse me,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: Menace is like that.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: I was going to say Menace is.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: But Menace, I don't even know if they're gang members. True.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Like they're the.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Proverbial street guys.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: It's kind of.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say Menace, like you said,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: without knowing because they're not they're not gang members in
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the movie, but it is very much. It is just.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Some street shit for sure.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: So I feel like the thing about the drop is
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: they do this. They do a really great job of
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: focusing on the black family as a center. And then
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: here is the backdrop in Los Angeles street urban culture.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Was there anything, like, for you that you just learned about?
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Because you've been a part of the entertainment industry in
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: some aspect for so long, but, like, the acting shit,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the movie shit, the TV shit is, like, we're all
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: in the same city, but the worlds are so far apart.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: Night and day. Night, night, night and day.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: What was like the craziest thing you kind of came
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: away from just being a part of a show or
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: filming or being in a writer room where you're like, oh,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: I didn't know they did it like this or I didn't.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Writer's room, I didn't know, period. Yeah.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I did not know groups of people come together to
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: come up with ideas together.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: So it's like a big brainstorming session.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, it's amazing. Whiteboard and shit. Greatest thing I've
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: ever been a part of.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Fire. Because everyone's throwing ideas out. Yeah, but it's... Like
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: we're working on this episode. Where does this character go?
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: What is this?
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: You.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: So the whole experience with the drop, and I don't
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: know if it's like this for every entertainment project, how
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: dialed in the actors were, how dialed in the writing
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: room was, how dialed in the damn production was, how
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: dialed in the executives were.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: Everything had a hyper focus. Right.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: And so in the writer's room, there's a hyper focus
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: where they like, yo, is this how this would really happen?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Like that mattered to them. Like, shout out to Malcolm Spellman,
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: because he was like, yo.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Hey, because you got to ask that question, and then
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: that's what you're here for. That's what whoever's consulting is like, yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: we got to ask this question before it goes through
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: the next step.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Like, Dub C initially was like a coach of diction
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: and a consultant. Yeah.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Dub C.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: It was like, you could see how great that affected
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: how great his input was in Snowfall.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: And you could notice certain things. You'd be like, damn,
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: that's pretty fucking good. Because Dub C is like, yo,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: this is how we would do it. Right, right, right.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Even him on this, there were certain times like, nah,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that. Don't do that dance. Do
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: this dance. Right?
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: And those things are great, but being in that writer's
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: room and watching them care about, hey, is this authentic?
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Right. Hey, is this close?
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Because there's still movie magic that has to happen in Hollywood.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Actors coming in, you know, I thought Spellman did a
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: great job of allowing the actors to start figuring out
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: who their characters were. Because, right, for Peyton, uh, Asante, uh, Simba,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: you know, Buddy, um, Brandon, right, DG, this is episode,
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: this is season one.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: But for Gale and Isaiah, Leon.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: And Wanda, this is season six.
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: This is season seven.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Or seven. How many episodes, wait, were there six seasons
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: of Snowfall? Six, yeah, damn, there should have been five,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: but yeah.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: So, to, to, to, The production, shout out to Alonzo Alvarez,
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: who shot episode one and a couple episodes.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: Rashidi, Millicent. I don't want to, because I'm going to
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: forget some names. It was Seath. It was like this
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: great ensemble. The cast, the gaffer, the lighting. Everybody was so, Gerard,
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: who does the sound, they were just so locked in.
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: And I've been on sets before, but you could tell
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: this got an extra amount of attention. Even the execs, man,
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: like Paul, just different people, they were on it.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: They was like, hey, you know, and you could just
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: see that it was a passion.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: And still to me to walk out in episode one
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: and wondering like, hey, is this going to work? Still
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: wondering like, man, is this going to, is people going
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: to accept this? Because it's not snowfall, right?
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: It's a saga.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: It's out of the world of snowfall. But, you know,
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: there's no, You know, there's no damson, right? This is
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: the person that they build into a star.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: They build him into a superstar.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: Right? And Gil just, like, comes through and is, like,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: top tier.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So the first series, I think a lot of people
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: would all kind of agree that a lot of inspiration
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: was drawn from Freeway Ricky Ross' story.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like this spinoff is kind of like
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a concoction of, like, Ruthless, Death Row? It has to be.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: just everybody's taking from so much of those early.
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: It has to be. It has to be some Harry O.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: It has to be some Suge Knight.
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: It has to be some Easy E.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: It has to be some... All these DJ Quick.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: It has to be Dr.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: Dre.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: It has to be Ice Cube. It has to be.
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: I think everybody being locked in really created something special.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: And every episode gets better. It's not like the first
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: one was like this load-blown type of thing. It's like, nah, dog,
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: every episode gets stronger. And what I really appreciate about
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: this show is how much soul the show has. I
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: think I've been saying that the show has a lot
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: of soul. There's going to be moments where you'll be like, damn,
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: you're going to feel something that you haven't felt in
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: television in a while.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Talk to me about, obviously, you and Problem, because Problem
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be here. Jason Martin.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he likes to be called. I
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: just will always call him Problem.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I will never get used to calling him his real name.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and the guy never called you Jason.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Could this obvious show, could this like, because I
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: feel like you are very like, you're pretty inconsistent with
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: putting music out. Could, I feel like you would probably
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: putting a project out together would be kind of crazy.
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: And we talked about doing that ample times.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have talked about it hundreds of times.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: But I think maybe now it feels like it could
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: be a thing where... You know what?
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: At one time, I was really consistent with putting out music.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: But once I realized I didn't know anything, it definitely said,
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: you need to learn something before you just keep monetizing
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: this thing.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Problem is natural.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: The problem is an alien when it comes to just
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: creating and being in the room and getting the best
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: out of people.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Problem is one of the best record makers I've ever met. Right? Like, Problem,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: Ty Dolla $ ign, they're like top tier record makers. For sure.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: They're like really, like, those are the kind of guys
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: you could just lock in a room with nothing.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Them by theyself and they'll come out with a fucking record.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: It's only a handful of people.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Quick.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Like that. Quick is like that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: Dr. Dre is like that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Dr.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Dre can write a rap just fine. People are just crazy.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think they understand that he can write just fine.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not for me to say or not
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: to say. We just know he's Dr. Dre.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he can write rap.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you for sure. You've seen it. He can
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: walk in. He's one of those few people that can.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: And when I mean a record, I mean something that
• 51:15
  Speaker 4: the world is going to get into. There's only a
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: handful of guys that can do that, that I've ever
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: came across, and that could do it at the final level.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: And problem, Jason Martin is one of those guys.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Shoot.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Stuck his foot in these damn songs.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I feel like it could be like a drop album.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: So there's, that's coming.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: The songs is out right now.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: So this, I didn't know the music was out. Yeah.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: So every week, there's a new record that drops with
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: each episode. Yes.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: On Apple music.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: From the actual label in the show.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: So officer black man, right. Which is the song that
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: got artillery beat up.
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: Yep. Is released on Apple music.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: So each week, if you hear music in the show,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: it'll be out.
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: It'll be out. Um, Ryder, right?
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: The song he performed, right? The song he came up with,
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: beat up and everything at the end of the show.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: That's called Ryder. R-Y-D-A-H. That's out. On Apple Music. Today,
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the Nip song drops, right?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, with the unreleased verse.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: And it's like, I don't know. I don't give a
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: damn what nobody say. He wrote that verse for this song.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: For this show?
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: For this show. I don't give a fuck.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: When you hear it, It's too specific.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: It's way too specific.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: It's very, you know, we say prolific, but sometimes we
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: don't accept the idea. Like, I don't give a fuck
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: what nobody say. He wrote that for this.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: This was going to happen. So I'm just grateful Black Sam.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: You know, Greenlit it.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Allowed it to happen.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, and he's so careful with what he greenlights
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: as he should be. Yeah. Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: He's always been protective over his brother in life. You
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying? So when he was breathing, so.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: but they got this right, man. When I tell you, like,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: this is going to be one of the greatest, you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: theme songs in television history.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Like, he just, he wrote it for this shit. Like,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: when you hear it, you're going to be like, what
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: the fuck?
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: It's either he wrote it for this or, like, the
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: show writers heard the song and said, all right, let's
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: build a show around this verse.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Something either way, bro.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Something crazy.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: It's so dope, man. And it actually kind of put
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: tears in my eye, bro, because it was like, He
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: not around to see this shit. You know what I'm saying?
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: And it's like, this is something that meant something to him.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, when I had Sam up here, it was like,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: we were just talking about, like, obviously the, how sad
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: it is that Nip hasn't been able to see how
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: he affected the world.
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm not sure. Like, I
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: think eventually he'd have got there. But I mean, we
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: see so many people moving around with marathon tattoos and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: all money in tattoos.
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: It's very Jesus-like, bro.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: It's very Jesus-like. And the only thing I can kind
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: of compare it to is like when Pac died. Pac
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: was bigger.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: When Jesus, Tupac... People start living their lives through their teachings.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: And passing... Martin Luther King. Martin Luther King's impact changed
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: once he passed away. He was already.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: Malcolm X, same. Something happens for black men in death
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: with the rest of the world.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: Right. You know what I mean?
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: That don't happen... Like, Pac was the shit when I
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: was younger. We fuck with Pac, but, man, when he died, bro,
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: people changed their life.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right, right, right.
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's what happened with Nick, where it's like,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: the reach has been so crazy, and it's like, he's
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: inspired so many millions of people, and now it's like,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: how would it have played out had he still been here? Like,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I think he was on his way to getting the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: flowers that we all knew he deserved. I mean, he
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: had the Grammy nomination for Rax.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: In the Middle, and, you know, but I.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: I told my dad, because my dad um, was asking me, man,
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I met that dude. That dude came by. I was like, yeah.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: And I was like, when you pass away, your, your,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: your spirit is free to roam the earth. And then
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: like things like we can't be omnipotent in life, but in, in, in,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: you know, when you pass away and your spirit is
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: out of your body and is able.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Like he can be everywhere. I'm nip it. He can
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: affect people in a different way.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: Like God's power truly, can be summoned at that point, right?
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: And I think that's what we seeing with him. But like,
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: when I tell you, like, I don't give a fuck
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: what nobody say, this verse was wrote for this. This
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: song was wrote for this show.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: Have you been able to watch the full season?
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: So you've been able to, so you know the whole shit. Yeah. Yeah.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: It's deep.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I'm really- How would you, since you know the whole
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: first season, how would you compare it to like Snowfall's
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: first season? Because Snowfall's first season was- Amazing.
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: What's funny, Snowfall's first season started off really slow.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, I loved it because it immediately started with the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: hooker dying in the CIA guy's house because she was
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: getting cocaine blowing up her asshole. Yeah. She overdosed. I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm in.
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah. She was dope. I like that too. That's why.
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny?
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: When Snowfall got going, because I think there was some
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: dope stuff.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: No, but then it became slow because he was playing tennis.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: Sure, but they kicked it off with an explosion. To me,
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Snowfall really gets going. when you meet.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Carvel.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's when it starts. It's like, oh,
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: these motherfuckers is tripping.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: Shout out to Sal and all of the writers from
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: the original Snowball. But when Carvel comes on the scene
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: and motherfuckers start getting assaulted for monies that they stolen
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: and shit.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: It's like.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: And his uncle, man.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: I loved... Oh, Jerome was great.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Jerome was.
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: He's so dope. He's great.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, man.
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: This, it rivals. It rivals.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: It's a good parallel. They did a good job of
• 56:48
  Speaker 4: not just hindering off bullshit.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: It's great tension without always, you got to kill 70
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: people in this episode.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right. It doesn't need to be so outlandish.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: The storytelling carries it. Because I feel like Snowfall started
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: to veer a bit When they got trapped in the
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: basement with the, was it a bear or a tiger?
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, in the backyard.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: I was like, what are we?
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: My boy wrote that episode.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: I was like, we might need to wrap this show up.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: Sal said they were just in there just like, okay,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: we got to shake shit up.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. That's where they lost me officially. I
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: was like, okay, this is becoming unreal. This is not
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: a serious show anymore.
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny? I liked that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Oh, I hated that shit.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: I liked that. My favorite episode was the wedding where
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: everybody was tripped out because they spiked a punch.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: I like that episode too. I ended up liking the
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: Tiger episode. Shout out to Sal. He did a good job.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: This show, because I think at this point we may
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: have a second season.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm probably not the person to speak
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: on it, but I think it's the homework we all do.
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be how much homework are
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: we going to do right now. Right now I'm already
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: starting to do homework. Right now I'm reaching out to people.
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: I'm finna reach out to my big brother, Chuck. I
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: need to get with Sylvia Rohn.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I need to really make sure when I come back personally, me,
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: as a consultant and probably as a writer officially, I
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: need to come back with some shit. Not just the
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: street urban cultural things that I understand about lifestyle, but
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: what was it like for female executives? Because Wanda is
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: on the path to becoming a female executive and I
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: want People don't understand what black female executives went through
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: at that time. So it's going to be the homework
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: you do off that prepares you for season seven.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah. That makes sense.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Every time.
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: So I think everybody is taking it serious. I think
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: everybody's doing their homework. The after show was on Hulu.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Shout out to our boy Head.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Head, man.
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: Emil, the showrunner of this show, Gabe. another really important
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: entity that the rights to do that.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: Of course. Kills it.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Kills it. Yeah.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: And it's, it's, it's really dope. So everybody is taking
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: it serious and just to be in the writer's room, bro. And, and,
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: watch them, hey, is this authentic?
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Like, that matters.
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: Like, when did our life become important to where people
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: care about how.
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: Like, look how far we came in entertainment. They were
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: putting fucking... red lipstick.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: Painting somebody's whole face with charcoal, making their lips big, right?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: All this shit because.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: This complete thing where you could tell they had no
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: brother in the room to say that shit is ridiculous
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: to now is like, you know what?
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: If we're going to make a story on Los Angeles'
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: street urban culture, let's get some people around that really
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: care and know what's going on and.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: And I think Snowfall gave everybody that feeling, too. Like, oh,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: this feels like the realest interpretation. Even, like, you know, obviously,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I'm from the West Coast. I know a lot of,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I lived in L.A. forever, but it felt
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: like I was about as close as it's gotten on TV.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: My goal is to get with Pebbles during this time. Pebbles,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: you know, TLC, Discover TLC, Sylvia, all the female executives.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Even Tamika, Eazy's.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Whole lady, like all the executives, like I need to
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: talk to those people to see what they went through
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: because I'm sure their journey had to be a lot
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: different than.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: The average white male record exec.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: So I think that's how, I like to believe that's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: what makes Dick Wolf's program so special.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Dick Wolf, man.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: He just did a, he's doing a podcast with Joe Budden,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: a true crime podcast.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Dick Wolf is doing a- And Joe Budden. Fucking shit.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: And Joe Budden is the, It's his version of a
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: true crime podcast. Joe's. But it's either with Dick Wolf
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: or executive produced by Dick Wolf.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: Wow. That's dope. But Dick Wolf is one of the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: better guys.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: By the way, much better name than Wolf Dick.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Dick Wolf is fire, though. And he got the shit, too.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: He got that shit, dog. Shout out to Dick Wolf
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: for making sure.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, look out for Ice-T, man.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, Ice-T, baby.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Ice-T. I just bought Ice-T's album. Yeah, I bought it, too.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: I think it was the only way you could get it.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: What's funny is I was on him.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: I would like to believe, I don't know if he
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: would say this, but I'm probably one of the loudest
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 4: voices in here.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: Like, you should put out an album. He's tripping. You
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: should put out an album, bro. What are you doing?
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I want to hear Ice-T do an album with, like,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Muggs or like Alchemist or somebody.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. That'd be dope with him and Muggs would
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: be fire.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Him and Muggs. All he got to do is come
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to Burbank, knock it out in a week.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: But you know what's so fly about Ice-T, right? And
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: shout out to Ice-T because he got posters in the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: drop that's super dope.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: There's a ton of his lifestyles in there. But DG
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: kind of gives me Ice-T vibes. But this is the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: crazy part, right? Ice-T shot a video for his album
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: where he was just walking through his house. And that
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: shit was entertaining because, like, that's his house.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: Because that's his career.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: Like, his second video could just be him going to work.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: On the SVU lot.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: That's the video. Like, his third verse could just be...
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: And everybody be into it.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: Like, damn, this shit is fire.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Like, damn. I want to see what your house look like.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: Like, at this age.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, dude, he's been on TV for 20 years. And, like, obviously,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: very successful hip-hop career. Very successful acting career outside of SVU.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: But SVU is a staple.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Bro, he been.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: He's hip-hop's original fly guy, even if he's not credited
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: that way.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: Ice-T had a Porsche in the early 80s.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Ice-T is the godfather of gangster rap.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: No, Ice-T is really that nigga, man.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, I was talking with Too Short
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Annie 40, and we were talking about how Ice-T was
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: the guy kind of before them, but like... We don't
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: talk about Ice-T like we should, for real.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny? Because I think he did so
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: much other shit.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because we know him from every.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Short probably got... Short was on album number 10 when
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I was in high school.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Getting it, yeah.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: That fucking is 30 years ago.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: Crazy.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: E-40 just put out four albums.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Quadruple, man.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? That's just E-40.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: That'll just knock out four albums. That's how dope Unc is.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: He just, let's put out four albums.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Why you got- Effortlessly.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: How?
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean? And he can rap with anybody, right?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 4: He can be somebody nine or 90. He know what
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: He's superb. And Ice-T is like this other guy who's like, yeah,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to be on TV for 30 years.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: Why are you on a show for 30 years?
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: Everybody knows Ice-T.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: Ice-T can make a video. His second video, I'm going
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: to text him as soon as we get off this thing.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: His second video should just be him going to work.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: Him going, SBU shooting, having- Mariska in the video, having
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: a man in the video, and they all right there.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: His third video could be him just going to do
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: a show with Body Count, so you could see that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: He still does the Body Count shit, yeah.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: His real life is such a different floss, you know
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: what I mean?
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: It's different.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: And it's quiet.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: It's a quiet floss.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: My boy is just a... I love that dude, man.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: That dude is like.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I remember when Vlad TV did a tour of Vanilla
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Ice's house, and you were like, Oh, my God. Vanilla
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: Ice has all these cars and lives this way off
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: of a song in 1991?
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: Such a great song.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: What the fuck?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Such a great song.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Yo, I want to know your thoughts. So, obviously, the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Dirk verdict happens.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I did not expect the not guilty verdict. A couple
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: days later, we see this kid at Q50 in Chicago
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: get killed.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts just on like, do you think
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: seeing someone like Dirk get off and obviously, you know,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: through a very, like a juror of his peers found
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: him not guilty. Do you feel like, cause I was,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: I was thinking like, okay, if, if Dirk, Dirk is
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: kind of the face of like the drill shit, like
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: kind of the op killing music, if you will, he's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the goat of that shit, you know?
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: And I felt like, Watching him go.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Through this trial hopefully affected maybe some of the younger
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: kids to be like, oh, we're not untouchable. Oh, we
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: can't run this way. But then Dirk gets the not guilty.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: And good for him because I was on the free
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Dirk side all day. But how do you feel like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: the not guilty verdict, does it matter in the grand
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: scheme of things in terms of how it will influence
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: people's behavior?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 4: So one thing I'm going to do is not going
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: to let art make me think I know who somebody is.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: Fair. Right. I don't give a fuck what they're rapping about. 100%.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 4: That don't mean whatever you're being accused of, you did.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: So I have to act like I don't know.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: No matter what I think I know, no matter what
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 4: YouTube videos I saw, no matter what.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: I'm going to treat that man like I don't know him.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: And that's how the jurors.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Which he got lucky. Right.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Shout out to the attorneys. Watching a black man, right,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: beat the feds is fantastic.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: I just.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: I know what it's like. I lost my mom to
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: federal prison. My mom died in federal prison. So to
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: watch a brother fight a case, not take a deal,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: because we always talk about the conviction rate. He could
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: have took a deal. We always talk about the conviction
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: rate with the feds, but they don't tell you that
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: most people take deals.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that conviction rate, everybody who takes a deal is
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: put into that percentage.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: And a lot of people take a deal because the
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: feds do a good job of making sure you don't
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: have enough money to fight a case.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: And they do a good job of branding the fact
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: that they're undefeated to you, even though you're like, well,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: how many of those people just probably could have been
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: the case if they just fought it?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: People who actually, you know, the feds, like, you know,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: they make sure you don't have access to your resources,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: your money.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: They make it really hard to get out on the streets.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: They make it hard for you to fight.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they make it, they kind of tip the scales
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: in their favor.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: And to watch a young brother go and beat them
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: in the court of law Right.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful to be alive to watch that happen.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: As far as his true impact. Right.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: Artistically, I don't think it's fair that we put that
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: off on artists. Now, I understand and it's really easy
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: to do, but there's a ton of things that we
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: do not relate it to. You know, we we got
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: to get back on parents being parents.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: You got to do a better job with your kids,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: you know. but Dirk is responsible, right, to represent the
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: culture that he saw, right, this soldier culture. Yep, this
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: soldier culture in Chicago because where he's at is in
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: wars constantly, and I know how draining that is. So
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: I just, I think it'll change him.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: You know, I know he has another federal fight up
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: coming up.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I saw his statement, and I thought it was good,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, I think, like you said,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: it felt like the cards were stacked against him.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: And so, you know, it's a jury of his peers.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Now, if you see Dirk and you think, right, that
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: you can go out and, you know, commit a crime,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: you better have millions of dollars to defend yourself in
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 4: court or you're more likely to become my mother and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: die in prison. So I think it's an unfair comparison
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: to compare yourself to Dirk. Because Dirk has a ton
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: of resources to.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Defend his reputation.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, from what I understand, Drake paid for the lawyers.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I saw that.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: I thought that was player. I was really proud.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: And I think he helped Young Thug, too.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I'm really grateful for that. Because I don't want... Don't
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: get me wrong. I think.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: brothers can make mistakes, but I also think the government
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: and the state can put it on pretty thick.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I think it's definitely, on the other side
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: of it, you see a situation with like Keefie D,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: who didn't have millions and millions of dollars.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: And lost to a case with no evidence.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: And lost a case.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: They couldn't even put him in Vegas. Nobody saw him.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: Nobody could prove he rented a car. Nobody could prove
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: he flew to Vegas. Nobody could say he checked into
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: a hotel. Nobody could see him at a fight.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: And you see the difference when resources is available. Some
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: people be like, well, he said what he did. All
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: of these people, they said said what they did.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah. All of these people, the dirt, they said they
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: felt like.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: He told academics. Thug, they said he told this person.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: They had the phone conversations.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: But because they had the resources to hire, you know,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: great lawyers- You know, they had a better chance to
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: fight for their freedom. Meanwhile, Keef E.D., right, who doesn't
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: have the resources, right, they didn't even have to put
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: him near the scene of the crime.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: They didn't have to put him in the state. They
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: didn't ever have to say nobody saw him. They said, hey,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: you know what? You made entertainment saying that you are
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: a part of this.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: You wrote a book.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: You're guilty, right?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: And that's going to be you. So don't think you're
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: going to be Dirk. You're not going to be Dirk
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: or Thug. You're going to be Keef.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Right. And then they need a W for the Tupac
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: case all these years later to say, we finally did it.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: Well, Nevada, I'm sure that's a fucking stain on their jacket.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: They like, well, Nevada is also like one of the,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, at least back then and up until like
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: I lived there in 2012, but one of the more grimier,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: like corrupt police forces.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: Sure. Sure. It's in Vegas. It's fucking over there.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Like Metro's fucked.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: So I think, you know, again, I thought, you know,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: that's why a district attorney would take that case.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: Right. Whoever that district attorney took that case.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this is going to be something on
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: my jacket.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I can get this.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I can get the Tupac verdict.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: I can get this. And he's going to get a promotion.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I see he's going up. I think he had released
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: something saying he wants to appeal. But I think it is.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: Because if you would have told me, I would have
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: said for sure Keefie D not guilty. I would figure
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: the verdicts would have swapped. I thought Dirk was cooked.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: I'd even look at all the evidence in Dirk's case
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: or even in Thug's case. I knew this stuff in
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Keith's case. And I was like, this is interesting. But
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's the thing, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: With the lifestyle, with the outlaw lifestyle is you outside
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: of the law. So when the law brings you in,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: It can get funky.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: But to the culture, to the kids you're talking about,
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: rest assured, if you don't have.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: The resources Dirk had, right?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: If you don't have a millionaire, you know, rapper, pop
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: star to help finance this seven-figure attorney, you know what
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: I mean?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: Mostly I don't have that. It's going to not work
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: out for you.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Does Drake covering the lawyer fees give you a different
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: perspective on that? No, no.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: I don't have a negative or positive perspective. If I
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 4: thought he did something boof, he did something boof. If
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: he do something solid like this, I'm like, man, that
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 4: was solid. I mean, I guess I could make a
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: whole stream about, hey, that was all right.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: You should.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because it really wouldn't be much to say. Like,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: I don't really have much to say negative. I just,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: I always say, man, like, whenever I say something positive,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 4: nobody is going to make it a headline. I wish
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: I challenged everybody to make that a headline. Like, Lassie
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: said that was cool, man. Lassie said that was solid.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: They ain't. Ain't nobody finna click that shit. Yeah. Man, G,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: fuck it. They cussed him out. So, but I thought
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: that was okay.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they gave him a lot of
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 4: cachet and hopefully he developed some level of real friendship
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: with him and that's, he took care of them. So I'm,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: I'm grateful that he looked out for two dudes that
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 4: come from the ghettos that I come from.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: A hundred percent, man.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Um, had, I know after our last interview, you and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: academics had a pretty big back and forth online. Sure.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: Thank you for that.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: Sorry about that.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: It's all good.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Did you guys talk offline at all?
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: Any communication, any, any sort of idea?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: No, no. We close.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: If we want to talk, we could talk, but, academics
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 4: is like my little brother. He just got a couple
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 4: of dollars and he think it just means something.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: It's like, that don't mean nothing. Not spank you little man.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: You're my little brother. Chill out.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: But, um, they're, they're in a really tough predicament. You know,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: people like, people like, they're in a tough predicament with me, right?
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: Because it's like, so much of what they do is
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: hinging on something I'm an expert in. Like he's an
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: expert in streaming. He's an expert in how he entertains.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 4: He's an expert in understanding people. I'm an expert in
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: what you talking about. I'm an expert in street urban culture.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: That's my shit. That's what I do. All the people
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: you talk about, the people you scared of, I look
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 4: at them as little kids. All the stuff you think
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: is something, that shit is cool. That ain't no big
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: deal to me. So, you know, watching people feel like,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: Some people felt like, man, you know, Ak is giving
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: you a shout out because he's saying something about you.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, this gives him cachet.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: If it was just a conversation of fame, you know,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: it's different.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: It's a different combo.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: The difference, right, is like, I can walk Ak down
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 3: the street and he'll be just fine.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: That makes sense.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: That's where street urban culture matters. He has enough money,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: but then you got to be willing to go to jail. Like,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: you know, there's certain things that comes with that, right?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: You're going to put a security guard's life at risk.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: I could walk you to that same thing and you
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: wouldn't have no problem because I'm truly a star of
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: the culture.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: And that becomes the argument.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: But, you know, I'm glad that this case went the
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: way it did because the feds was bringing up his
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: name and that really could have made people look at
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: him completely different.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: That could have went really bad.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I also thought, like, when he said that it
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: was scripted, that.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Was a mistake. Yeah, like, bro, what are you doing?
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Because I saw that video of Wack saying, yo, you
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: got to chill. You're putting yourself into some shit. And
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I think, obviously, they're on the other side of it now.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: But I think that that was, I'm sure that was
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: a learning experience for him.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: And we're not on the other side of it.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Well, in terms of those specific charges. Yes.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Well, because now those things go into the next case.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: The civil case, too.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: No, I'm saying there's another federal case.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: And then he's going to get hit civilly. And they're
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: probably going to hit him like O.J. Because the civil
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: rules are way different. It's just you have to prove
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: someone probably did something.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: So he's going to get hit financially.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: Well, pray to God the best things for, for, for, for,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: for do you understand?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: But like, also there's like victims, families who lost their
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: loved one, who, you know, they're going to, they're going
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: to want to get some sort of financial retribution.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: I know, but I mean, I don't know how the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: fuck they're going to put it up. They got the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: people that said they committed the crimes. Now, if you say, oh,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: he associated with them, you know, maybe they move as
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: a unit.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: But I think they can prove probably that he was
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: behind it. Probably. Not for sure.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: I agree if it's a probably.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: No, no, civilly, it's just probably. Sure, sure.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: It's a possibility, which is crazy when you think about that.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: It's not the same as the criminal side.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: I hope really good things happen for him because I
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 4: think he's somebody that can really come home and speak
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: power to people that's trying to live an outlaw lifestyle
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: that don't quite understand how things could go.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: And from what I understand, he's, like, Muslim now. He's, like,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: super devoted Muslim.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, before he went back. Yeah, he was already, yeah.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: So I feel like, yeah.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: Whatever God's will will be served with this situation.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: He can be very influential on, like, a whole generation
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: of kids getting out.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: And, again, you know, the truth is, you know, you
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 4: better figure out exactly what happened in that case. And
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: more power needs to be put back on parents. Some
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 4: of these parents suck. Stop blaming the art.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: And also, a lot of these kids are coming from
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: broken homes where moms are working two jobs. There's no
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: father figure in the house. Sure. People get bored. What
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: else are you supposed to do?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Got to get online. I mean, but again, it's like kids,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: you could goon.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Just goon. I'm just saying, when I was a kid,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: my parents would leave the crib, went to my dad's
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: porn stash, turned up.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: What's funny is I think most people don't do that
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: because of the internet. I think people really create their own,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: they create different personalities online.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. I think this GTA six is
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: about to, did you ever see ready player one? Yeah,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: of course. So ready player one is one of my
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: favorite movies, but I think GTA six is the introduction
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: into that becoming, I don't know if you're going to
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: be on a walking pad with like, but people are
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: going to have, they already have had real full lives
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: in GTA, but this is from what I gather, if
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: you could earn real money, In the real world. Through
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: the game. Oh it's. Motherfuckers are going to just be.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: The obesity rates will rise. Because people will be in
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: the crib. GTA and all fucking. They're going to make
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: sure that their gut. Because they say your character in
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: GTA 6. His physical appearance depends on what you eat
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: in the game. And if you exercise in the game.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: So there is going to be morbidly obese bros out here.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: With the swollest. Fitness. technical motherfucking character on GTA. But
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: in real life, that's happening. Immediately.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: I mean, I believe it.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Are you a gamer?
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: No. My real life is cracking. Yeah. You work on
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: cars and shit.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: You got hot rods.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: I'm somebody in real... I'm sorry. I ain't talking shit.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: I'm saying I'm somebody in real life.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: No, for sure.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: I don't need to hide behind a social... personality. I
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: go outside and it's really cracking.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: How do we get you this? I feel like we
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: need to do a bandana blue room with two blue chairs.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: Shout out to Spider. We can't steal the blue room
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: from Spider. Spider Studios.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Spider Loke.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: We need to figure out something else.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: You need a set. It needs to be... No, we'll
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: steal it from Spider.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: It's fine. Just ask him.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: Let me get this idea.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: Let's get just a blue bandana covered room with two
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: blue chairs, and then you can interview. Bro, first episode,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who you could get.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: It had to be Fat Joe.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, Fat Joe would go crazy.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: It had to be Fat Joe. But I see, like, right,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: we could just have clouds. It could be like a
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: Crip Heaven.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: Crip Heaven.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Right? No, because I feel like that might be.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: Murals of Tookie and Raymond and Nip, all kind of
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: older homies, the big homie Steed.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 3: Just dope dudes. I don't know.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: We got to figure it out.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: Charlamagne really got the podcast. We got it.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: It's just the visual component is so important because people
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: don't want to just listen.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: I think what you're doing on your stream is different
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: than what I'm talking about.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, we're talking about a real podcast.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: I think you need to sit across from people. And
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: like you said, you don't want to sit across from
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: people because you're going to call them out on bullshit,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: and that's why it's going to be great.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but dude, I don't think people are going to
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: want it. You think Kanye is going to be.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: I want to see you interview the game so bad.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: You know, it's funny. We're supposed to do it.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: If you set, no, if you do the game, don't
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: do it on stream.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: Don't do it on zoom.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: Please come.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: I'll build a room for you.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: No, we, we, me and Chuck talked about doing it
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: before all this stuff came out.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: We were supposed to do it.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: And then he was like, wait till the album came out.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: Cause you have such a inside knowledge of a certain
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: era of his career and, and currently, obviously, but I
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: feel like we're supposed to do one soon. And, uh, Yeah,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: it should be fun.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be good.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: To me, it's just, I don't know, most of these
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: people just don't give a fuck about nobody, man. And
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: it's like, once I kind of sense that, it just
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: rubs me the wrong way.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: And so I kind of make sure I stay away
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 4: from people that don't care about nobody else. Because it's like,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: if I don't see you care about people or represent
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: the community the correct way, like, bro, we're not going to.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: It's going to be bad. Like we probably should just fight.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: Jesus.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: Well, there's that.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Because it matters, bro. Like
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: how we present it to everybody.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: And like, I care so much how my community and
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 4: places I grew up with and the people that I,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 4: I watch people say shit about the streets. And I'm like,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: how do you disconnect the streets from the people? Like
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: y'all experiences was that bad.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 3: People mistreated you. Like, Oh, the streets don't love nobody.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 3: The streets love me. That don't mean like Marvin Gaye's father.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: Knocked him off because he just got out of line
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 4: with his father.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 3: It didn't mean he didn't love him. You know what
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: I mean?
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: Definitely kind of a, yeah, that's a wild tragedy.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 3: These streets have shown me love. These streets paid for
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 3: me to go to prom. These streets taught me how
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: to fish. People that didn't grow up with my family.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: I almost feel like we have two different experiences with
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: poor black people, like me and a lot of people.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: Question, did you listen to Documentary 3?
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: Not yet.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: You haven't listened yet?
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: It's been up for like a month.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: I know, but this show is crazy, bro. Finishing this show,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 4: starting to do press, figuring out everything, writing a show,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: writing a mobile series for the phone.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of the best albums of
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: the year, and I feel like for whatever reason, people
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: won't give it those flowers because....
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they want to call.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: It games ways, if you will. The way... But it
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: is an incredible body of work.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: Game has always put together really great projects.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: No, he's got an amazing discography.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: I think he did well. I think he succeeded. You
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? I think he did well.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: And it did well.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: I think it did well.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think even like independently, if you think
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: about it kind of was a surprise drop.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I think the only reason people could talk shit, right,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 3: is because we keep talking in sales when nothing is
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 3: for sale. I think if we talked in streams and
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: we said, hey, man, Game's new album did 45 million streams.
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: And it was an album that I want to say
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: we really only knew it was dropping. It was dropping
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: like a week out. He didn't come out for Versus
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: and say, he didn't promote Documentary 3 on Versus coming.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: I think he decided he was going to put it
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 4: out after that. I think he saw that and he
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: felt a certain way and then he just went with it.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: But me and Chuck would be good because.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: I would like to ask him.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: Did you like the No Break song?
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: I did like that song.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: So you like the song?
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that song. Yeah.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: I end up liking it.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Were you surprised? No. No.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: So what I thought happened, happened. Right.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 4: There was a song where they probably was dissing a
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: homie and Gang said, you know what, dog, I'm not
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: going to do this. And so I think there's probably
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: a Drake verse. I mean, it don't make me true.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: It don't make it real. But I think there was
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: a Drake verse and he was like, I ain't going.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 4: I'm going to let them handle it. And I think
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 4: that was important to me, too. And I think he
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 4: knew that meant something to me. Like, I think, you know,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 4: he can do whatever he want to, but I think
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 4: he knew how I felt about any of our guys
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: fighting each other.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: Right. And I think even the, because he had subs
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: on there, but I thought they were light and kind
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: of like.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: Just playing on the marketing side of it. Yeah.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: It's like, I didn't think he said anything crazy. Like,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: all the GNX shit was like, it was like, it
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: was fine. I mean, and again, if they haven't talked
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: in 11 years or however many years, like, it's fair. Like... So,
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: It's a great album.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 4: I feel like they'll figure out their place if they
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: do or if they don't.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 4: I'm just glad that didn't become a thing where I'm
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: watching a guy that pretty much helped me change my
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: life and another guy that means the world to me
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: because I watch him change his own life arguing over
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: some motherfucking body from somewhere else.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: Right. I didn't want that to happen.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: I think we're on the other side of it. I
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: was surprised that there wasn't a Chike Kendrick verse. Or
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: a Kendrick verse on Chike's album.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 3: Did it come out?
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: No, so I guess we don't know.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 3: That could be the plague. I didn't feed into none
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: of that shit. Because it was like, when I saw
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: they had the picture, and when I saw it could
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: be a song. From what I've.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: Heard from people who know and Essentially, Kendrick has executive
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: produced this album.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 3: That's tight.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: So Kendrick pretty much executive produced this album.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: That's not a debate. Now, I think it'd be kind
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: of player.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: If you drop the track list, then you just purposely.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: That's what they did on the Future album.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You purposely only put Tyler's features
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: on there, and then we play the album, and it's like, oh, fuck,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: Kendrick's on track six.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 3: You know what's funny? Speaking of... But that's what he
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: did on the Future song. On Like That. Like That, yeah, yeah.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: Like That didn't have featuring Kendrick at first.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 3: I just heard it, and it was like, we heard
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: this Kendrick song, so.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 4: Dot and Dave are very good at market. They are
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: really underrated. I think people know they're really good at marketing,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: but he's much better than I remember.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: There's a lot more things intentional. So I'm not surprised
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: at anything going well that's around him.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: And I'm sure whatever influence he had on Chike. And
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: Chike is somebody... I did a song with Chike. I
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 4: thought Chike was going to be some shit like.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: Five years ago.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: He's been hard.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: Right? I heard him once.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I want to do a song
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: with you. And I didn't even finish it. And I'm
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: not going to finish it now because that was at
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: a different time. But I knew he was some shit.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: And Chyke has been doing a really good job. I
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: love his verses on GNX. I like the shit that
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 4: he did with... I like the shit he did, the
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: other shit, where it had the Texas kind of cultural movement.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: Chyke has been... But the.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: Song with him and Tyler.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: That definitely put Tyler a lot closer to the door
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: And that video was wild.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And it's a Tyler thing, right?
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: Tyler is somebody I would like to talk to because
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 4: I think he owes me an apology for him dissing God.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: As a brother. Like, I feel like.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: How did he do this, Scott?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 3: He used to wear upside down crosses, 666. Yeah, no, no.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: That's some white people shit. No, Kev.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: We don't do that shit. I'm not with that.
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: Nah. What if he's an atheist?
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: That's even a problem.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Why is that a problem?
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: Nigga, we black in America, bro. What do you mean?
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: It ain't that good.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: It ain't that, Kev, you don't need God. You are
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: in America. You are a white man in America. You
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: don't need God.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Do you think religion has ever been used to brainwash
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: and keep the poor controlled?
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: Yes. Okay. But that's not what's happening here. All right.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, not right here. White people don't, y'all
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 3: don't need God. This is America.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: I'd like God. Now, mind you, I'm an atheist, but
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: if I wanted God... Bro, this is the clip.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: I said I'd like God. What do you mean? I
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: said I'd like him. God is our everything, bro, be
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 3: it black in America.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Right, but like.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Only like if you like.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: What if it's not Tyler's everything?
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 3: He's black and you can't... You don't just get to
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: just do that yet.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: What if he believes in.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: Science.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Science. And the Big Bang Theory.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: Then why you got to diss God?
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: How did he diss God?
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: I think Tyler said fuck God or some shit like
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Can we Google that?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: He had 666. He had to cross his upside down.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's just a number.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: 666 is just a number.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: That's like saying like a blue bandana is just a bandana.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: To some people it is.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: But when you know it means something else. Tyler would
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: be somebody I would do a podcast with.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, it'd be, you guys would, he would, he would,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: it would be.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: Because Tyler's somebody that, like, I'm a fan of his.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I want to see you and Vince Staples, too.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: Oh, me and Vince, that shit wouldn't even be good.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: That shit would be just fucking. funny because this is
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 4: so fucking great uh he's fucking for larry uh tyler
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: is like like that tyler and chike song is so
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: fucking fire to me so if.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: You if you talk to tyler is the first thing
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: you're gonna say is hey man so you dissed god.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 4: Yes that's the whole first 15 minutes And then depending
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 4: on what he say is going to go weird.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: So what if the upside down cross was just a
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: poorly written lowercase T for Tyler? He's not going to
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: put that on.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: T is for Tyler.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: No, no. You got to just tell me the truth.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 3: You got to be like, man, gee, I was on
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: some shit.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: He was on some shock value shit, too.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but don't do that with God.
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: He fucking ate a roach in Yonkers.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: That's cool.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the roach video. There was a roach in his mouth.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: It was on his hand.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: I saw that. I thought that was funny. I was entertaining.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: That tickled me. You know what I mean? I remember, dude.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: I remember. What Ron Berger said. What Ron Berger said.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: I laughed about it.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke. Me and Head used
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: to have so many arguments about Tyler because of what
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: you're saying.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: He's like, no.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: He on that white people shit.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: Nah, that shit not no bueno. Feel me?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 4: But Tyler is somebody I would want to talk to
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: because I think like I'm such a fan of his
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: abilities and craft. But as a brother, like from where
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 4: we from, like, yeah, I need to know what the fuck.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: How'd you think that was?
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's go through. I want to know, what do
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: you think is the greater label? We're talking impact, consistency,
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: death row, or TDE? Death row.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: TDE, that's cheating because that's my friend. They're my people.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: But death row is like, I don't know because I
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: can't measure TDE. Because we're in the middle of it.
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 4: We're in the middle of the storm. We can look
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 4: outside the storm. I don't know how many houses got
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 4: knocked over.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: We know the impact because the impact is Part of
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: that impact is Dr. Dre, which ends up being a
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: part of Kendrick.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Which ended up being T.D.E.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know what I mean?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: That's fair.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: It's levels.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Which album do you prefer? The Chronic or 2001?
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: 2001.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Ooh.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Preference. I think it's aged better. It sounds like it
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: could have came out yesterday. I was just listening to
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: the 2001. I was like, this shit sounds like it
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: could have just dropped.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Chronic is... Chronic is some shit. So the Chronic
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 3: is the better album. Yeah.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: I like it, 2001.
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: I was probably.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 4: Grown enough to understand it. I think I was like
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 4: 18 or 19 at the time it came out. The Chronic,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 4: I was a kid. But when I listened to it,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: just them being in the middle of the riots and
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: what was happening culturally was so fucking fire. It was
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: such a document of the time.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: Dog food or the documentary?
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 4: For me, obviously dog food. I was 16. Documentary, I'm
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: in a storm.
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: You were in a storm. So if you're in the storm,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: it's a little harder for you to.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: To gauge it.
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: To gauge it.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 3: Dog Fool was like, that was the first album I understood.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: I was like of age.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm assuming there's not a... You think Doggy Style
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: is the greatest album ever, right?
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It may not be my favorite, but it's the
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: greatest one.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: So what's your favorite ever?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: Dove See the Shadiest One.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: Shadiest One.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 4: Shadiest One is the greatest... Excuse me. Greatest is not fair.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 4: That's quantified by numbers. Shadiest One, Dove See the Shadiest
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 4: One is the.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: Best album to ever come out from Southern California. It's
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 3: my favorite. It's the best.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: It's your favorite.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: It's the best because I've.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: Never heard anything chronicle the mind of a brother from
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: Southern California.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: Like if you in the streets living the life.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: Like the shadiest one.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: Good Kid, Mad City or? Doggy style.
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: Doggy style.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Good Kid, Mad City or?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: Damn. Because I know if I say GNX, you're going
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: to say GNX.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 3: GNX by far. GNX by far. Damn.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Damn.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: Damn was great.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: Good Kid, Mass City was super. I'm starting to appreciate
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: it more now.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 2: What about, did you ever really dive into Pimp a Butterfly?
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: The first day it came out, I played it for
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: like a week. And then I might have played it.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: It was funky. I love it. It reminded me of.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you're going to kill me for
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: saying this, but it reminded me of Terrace and Maestro.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: I can see that.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: It's like this jazzy.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: It's funny because it had these funky elements, right? Like
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 4: King Kunta and all this stuff. But it had this
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: jazz appeal. that I feel like represents this version of
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 4: Kendrick that I thought was dope.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, man. The show, The Drop, it comes on,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: is it Thursdays?
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: Tuesdays.
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Tuesdays.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: Tuesdays. Tuesdays on, it's FX.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: FX.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: FX, but you can watch it on Hulu.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: Or Disney +, because it's number one on Disney +.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: It's all combined on, I think if you just get
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: Disney +, you get like Hulu and ESPN now.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: Well, some people that got Disney, you know what I'm saying?
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Just get the Disney, because it comes with all them shows.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and save the show. Like, for real, save the show.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: Don't just stay locked in, because there's some things that's
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: going to happen in that portal.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 4: That may not be over promoted. Save the show. When
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 4: you get on your Hulu, save the show. Make it
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: your thing to save.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Communicate.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 4: Hop online and talk about it.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: Tell people what you think.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: And then after the show is live, right?
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: It's already two episodes in the can. The third episode
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 4: is up. I do two shows talking about the drop
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: from a consultant writer standpoint.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: So it was dope.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: There it is, man. And I'm assuming this is not,
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: you probably have the itch now to do more.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: I always had that, yeah.
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean, now you got something on your jacket.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: Somebody gave me the opportunity. Shout out to Spellman and Jim.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: I'm saying now you got a W on the jacket,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: so you might start cooking in the game a little
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: bit over there.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: I already shit. I already been cooking the whole time.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 3: I never stop.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 4: When I was doing this, I was writing a movie,
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: and then I started writing a series for the phone,
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 4: so I'm excited.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: There it is. New music, I'm sure.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Yep, in the can.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: Always been in the can because it's Glasses Malone. He's
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: always got new music in the can. Whether or not
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: we hear it is.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 4: Man, y'all make it so hard. Y'all just talk so
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: much shit, man. You don't just hear shit. You can
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: put out dope shit and.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: Just put it out!
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: And then y'all can be asking me for some songs tomorrow.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: I got to figure out to make sure y'all hear it.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 4: Because I think I'm better than most people know, but
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 4: you just don't know it yet. And the reason you
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 4: don't know it is because you don't hear it.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: Because you don't put it out how the fuck we
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: hear it if it's in your fucking hard drive.
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 4: That's not true I do put it out but when
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 4: I do put it out people don't hear.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: It yeah but you're I feel like that's a bad excuse.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 4: I need you like this is the thing like in
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 4: my mind I'm like a notch below Pusha T and
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think you know that yet like in my
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 4: mind I'm about as good as Freddie Gibbs.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: And you don't know that yet in your mind you're
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: wrong No, I'm pretty sure I'm right. You're not on
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: the same planet as Freddie.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: I think Fred would tell you, like, hey, glasses is probably.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: That rumor we were talking about earlier, Freddie's in that
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: motherfucker dancing. He's on the couch fucking getting his ass
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: ate by some.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: Random hooker, but he's in that motherfucker.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: No, I think I'm as nice as Fred.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, you should think that.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: No, no, I think I am. I think Fred would
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: tell you, like, no, that nigga's glasses is nice. Yeah,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I just would say that I just think that I
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: feel like you're being generous.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: I'm not.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: To yourself.
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: I'm the harshest critic in the world. I'm more mean
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 3: to myself than anybody.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: So you think you're as good as Pusha T, too?
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: Nah, Pusha T is extra special. So they do, too.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Fred is like one of the better.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: Fred's got one of the greatest discographies.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 4: Fred is like a great catalog guy, great albums. And
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 4: as an emcee, he is more than qualified.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: Well, Fred has embarrassed damn near everybody he's ever done
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: a guest version of. Like, he's made it very hard
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: for people to exist.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 3: I tried to get him on the song, too. Just
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: for you, too. Yeah, please.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: Hey, put it out.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 4: Well, he didn't do it. I think he was like,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 4: I was on some shit on the song. But he
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 4: was like, man, glad.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 3: You know, that's got to be some shit if Fred
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 3: think you on some shit. And he like, I don't understand.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: Stay away from this. how you like my.
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: Friend first my name's Ben and I'm not in it
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not in it right my name's Paul that's between
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: y'all no for real put some fucking music out I
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: got you I feel like I feel like it's important
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: for people to see how good you are like I'm
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: to the point now where you need to see you
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: have such a big audience now in terms of people
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: paying attention to you so now you gotta also know
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: when you put a song out all them bots are
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: coming for your.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: Head as they should I appreciate it.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: But it's gonna it's gonna equal more people hearing I
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: agree so I'm gonna hear my own bots the drop
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Check it out.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 3: FX, Hulu.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: FX, Tuesdays.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: Disney Plus, Tuesdays. Tuesdays. It's at 9 o'clock.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Or stream it on demand.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 3: Just stream it. Yeah, just grab it.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: Catch up with whoever started.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: There it is. G.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: Malone, my brother. Appreciate you.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: What up, y'all? We're here at Eaze. You already know
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: if you're in L.A., Southern Cal, man, tap in. Go
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: to the website right now. Use that promo code BOOTLEGGER
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: to get 30% off flower concentrates. Whatever you're into, they
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: 30% off.
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Go to Eaze.com right now. It'll get delivered right to
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: your door. Or if you're in L.A., pull up because
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: we're here right now. Come on, man. Shout out to Eaze.