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Episode 42: Life Updates | The Lost Apothecary Book Review | Wedding Dress Drama | Amazon Review Killer | AITA · This Is My Circus

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I'm Stephanie.
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I'm Merida.
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And welcome to This is My Circus.
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Happy Saturday.
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Yeah.
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Saturday.
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How was, um, the game last night?
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Oh, it was terrible.
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Oh, it was torturous.
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Uh, Jackson played well.
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So, we went to Hillcrest.
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It was about two hours away.
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Okay.
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Jackson played well.
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He did fine.
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The kid he was going against all night's already committed to college.
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He's a senior.
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So, Jackson held his own.
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He got Thrown on his butt one time.
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So that's to be expected.
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I mean, he did good.
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we lost by a lot.
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It was just, a lot of our players were sick last week.
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our star running back was out.
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He's got a torn Achilles limb headstone.
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Or not torn, I'm sorry.
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Let's not even put that in the atmosphere.
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Pulled, sprained, something mild.
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Injured.
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Mm hmm.
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Yeah.
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A tender Achilles.
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so he, he was out and his little brother Grady played and Grady did amazing.
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Good.
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Yeah.
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but still, you know, just a little different energy, you know, that makes when some of your better players are missing, you feel that, you know, it was just a mental thing too.
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And then, like I said, like some of the kids were sick last week, like ER sick because of high fevers and stuff like that.
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So, it wasn't great.
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We lost.
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It's okay.
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Wasn't a conference game or anything like that.
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So, uh, next week we play at home.
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So got home really late last night.
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by the time we drove back and then we had to go to the school and get Jackson and all that, we probably got home at about one, I would say.
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Something like that.
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Yeah.
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and then it takes a lot of wind down, you know, is Jackson like hard on himself after games Like is it like a it depends he's okay as long as he's done his part like he's he's usually fine as long as he knows But he's he's got a really good football IQ.
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So As long as he did what he was supposed to do, which I don't understand a lot of the gaps and all that.
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Yeah, then he's typically fine.
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he gets frustrated at himself sometimes if he doesn't perform the way he thinks he should last night with who he was going against.
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He felt good about it.
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He gets frustrated sometimes when he feels like other kids, on his teams aren't given 100%.
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And I get it.
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You're out there sacrificing your body for every play and some kids, you know, lollygag out there.
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And he hadn't had that happen in a long time.
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Yeah.
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But it's still, that's, like, that's when I've seen him.
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I remember, never forget one time we were in a parking lot after a game and that situation had happened.
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And he was like, these kids don't even try! Like, he shut down the tracks and calmed down.
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He's like, I don't care if they hear me! They need to know! And I'm like, and you know, he's usually really, really chill about stuff like that.
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So, yeah.
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But Jazz and Tifa rode with us.
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Okay.
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And Tifa's littlest daughter.
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so we all didn't have to drive.
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So that helped pass the time too.
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She's so cute.
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She came up to me.
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I haven't seen her since she was a baby.
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She just came up to me and gave me a big old hug at the, scrimmage.
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Um, she's a cutie.
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She's a cutie.
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So that helped pass the time.
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because it's long drive.
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Yeah.
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And after a loss, a tough loss.
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So yeah.
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So he's at the gym now just doing some stretching and weights and stuff.
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Tomorrow he'll go for like ice baths and that they do that on Sundays.
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and then they're out of school Monday.
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But they do have practice.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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We're still on today.
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What's he got going on?
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He's working.
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He's a working man.
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He's working.
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he slept over at his friend's house last night and then came home for like an hour to get his work stuff.
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Yeah.
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So we were supposed to, go out to eat for breakfast this morning.
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But he slept through it.
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Did you go?
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No.
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I was gonna say, you should have called me.
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You know, I don't live far from there.
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No, I was, I was busy this morning.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, something's going on.
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Well, Jackson was like, after we go lift, can people come back and spend the night?
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And I was like, weren't they just here?
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And he was like, that was a long time ago.
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I was like, Jackson, it was last weekend.
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And he was like, but can they?
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And I was like, yeah, I guess.
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Yeah.
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But football's back.
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Yes.
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Like college football and stuff happened today.
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So, Clemson's already lost one.
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I think I didn't even see the final score, but, but, I love this time of year.
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Yeah.
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I don't.
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Watch sports anymore.
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Yeah, like not even like professional.
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Like I'm like, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I think just the whole knowing it's fall and the weather changes and all the excitement.
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Like we got this another heat wave though.
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Oh my gosh.
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This is like that second summer they talk about.
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It's insane.
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I was ready for like hoodies and sweatpants.
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Well, next Friday night when you come to the game.
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Steph.
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Yes ma'am.
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Um, it's going to be like 70, like better than 100 that it was yesterday.
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Yeah, can't see like 70 now, like to me, like I need a hoodie.
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Right, so I told Jackson, wear a hoodie, don't wear a toboggan.
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so yeah, I think the weather's supposed to break, so we'll see.
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Yeah, just been working a lot this week.
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I know just, I feel like I've been just working, working, working, working.
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We need some fun.
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did you see my post, that I shared, and it was like, I need a night out, of like hoochie mama clothes drinking and like twerking on cars.
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I mean, that's okay.
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But we need to do it from like four to 6 PM because I can't go, like a ratchet night is what the post said.
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That is funny.
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But then, Jazz had commented, my birthday is on.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I was like, let's do it.
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Well, that's fine.
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But like I said, we need to do it early.
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I can't stay up late anymore.
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I'll, I'll take a nap.
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Dylan now has his whole, like, real license.
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So he can be the driver.
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No renting limos and bad things happen in the limos though.
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Like our A M I L.
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Um, yeah, a night out would be fun.
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I don't know.
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I'm just so freaking tired.
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I know, me too.
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I don't know how long it would last, but while it lasted, it would be great.
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It would be a great, great time.
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Those 47 minutes would be so much fun.
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One glass of wine.
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Right.
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Right.
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Lightweights anymore.
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Did you read the book?
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Yes.
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Did you get through it?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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I liked it.
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Okay.
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And did you like it?
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I did.
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Well, yeah.
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I just have like some comments, but yeah.
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Okay.
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So it's the Lost Apothecary.
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I have a really hard time saying that one.
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Say Pharmacy.
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It's kind of the same thing, right?
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In like the oldie times.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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The Lost Apothecary by Sarah Penner.
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A forgotten history, a secret network of women, a legacy of poison and revenge.
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Welcome to the Lost Apothecary.
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Hidden in the depths of 18th century London, a secret apothecary shop, Caters to an unusual kind of clientele.
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Women across the city whisper of a mysterious figure named Nela who sells well disguised poisons to use against the oppressive men in their lives.
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But the apothecary's fate is jeopardized when her newest patron, a precocious 12 year old, makes a fatal mistake.
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Sparking a string of consequences that echo through the centuries.
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Meanwhile, in present day London, aspiring historian Caroline Swell.
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Yeah.
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Swell.
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Spends her 10th wedding anniversary alone running from her own demons when she stumbles upon a clue to the unsolved apothecary murders that haunted London 200 years ago.
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Her life collides with the apothecaries and a stunning twist of faith.
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And not everyone will survive with crackling suspense, unforgettable characters and searing insight.
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The Lost Apothecary is.
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Subversive and intoxicating debut novel of secrets, vengeance, and the remarkable ways women can save each other despite the barrier of time.
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Okay, we need to start inserting that sound right there because we like one of us is either saying it or Yeah.
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so I did like it.
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Okay.
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I didn't think I was going to Okay.
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I, well, and and you like the history?
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I do.
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Back in timey.
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I do.
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and, but sometimes it just depends on how it starts and I felt this one started off.
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It did slow.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So I was proud of myself for sticking through it.
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Yeah.
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So I read a listen to it, like when it came out, like, okay, probably two years ago, three mm-Hmm.
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like whenever it was like it was a while ago.
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Mm-Hmm.
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I, I didn't quite remember it and as I was listening I'm oh, okay.
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I kind of remember this part.
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So it really didn't make a big impression, I guess, because I didn't really quite remember it.
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Yeah.
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and like you said, it did start off very slow.
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Mm-Hmm.
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But I feel like listening to it would, is better than probably reading it.
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Yeah.
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To me, I don't know why, I think I would have picked up on the book faster if it maybe would have started with the modern instead of starting with the, because it's hard to just jump into yesteryear or whatever.
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Like if it's, if it's modern you're almost you're like you're there and then you can like go back.
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I don't know that sometimes that works better.
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Yeah.
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I, I don't really feel like the, the characters were developed very well.
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Mm-Hmm.
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like you didn't really get a deep sense of anybody.
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Mm-Hmm.
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in the entire book.
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Mm-Hmm.
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I don't think.
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Yeah.
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No, I totally agree.
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so I had a hard time connecting with, with anything in the book.
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Uhhuh, Uhhuh, Yeah.
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Once it, so once it started and I did feel like I was finally into it, I really liked hearing about the old timey.
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Medicine parts and what they did for all the different things And thinking of the conveniences that we have now that we didn't have been and and all those things Well, that was pretty you know, that's always neat to me.
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I like to read that stuff.
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Yeah But yeah, I'm with you the characters never felt I wanted more especially like the 12 year old girl I wanted to know a lot about her.
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I don't know why but she was just She seemed like probably the most interesting because she was kind of out of place with everybody else.
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Um, I wanted to know more about her and I really wanted to know more about I forgot her name.
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Was it claire?
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Yeah, I want to know more like like we know about her marriage and we know but I won't like I want a lot more Yeah, caroline caroline.
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Yes Well, yeah, I just I have and I wanted to know more about the lady who worked at the library.
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Yeah Something like that.
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Yeah.
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I don't know.
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Sorry.
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I wanted to know a lot about her cause I think she probably, I thought she was going to be like, I don't work at the library.
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Like, I don't even know who, I saw dead people.
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I don't, I thought that was going to be a weird twist in there.
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Yeah.
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I, I don't know.
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I just, I just had a hard time.
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I don't know.
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With, I don't know, that part of it.
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Not having like a real connection to any of the characters.
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I thought that, The premise of it was cool.
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Yes.
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Like serial killer, but like by proxy.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And, I, I would have loved to know the backstories of the guy, like the people that got killed.
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Right.
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There was no.
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Right.
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More information.
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Wow.
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Wow.
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It was a long book, but like, I just don't feel like you got any actual part of.
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Yeah.
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Any of it.
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Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
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Like, that's a bad way to put it.
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It made absolutely no sense.
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No, but it did.
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Like it, there was a lot of words, but kind of like when I talk, so many of the words are irrelevant.
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Um, but no, I totally get it.
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It was a long book.
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It took me a while to get through it.
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and part of that was probably because of the start of it, you know, trying to get locked in, but there was so much of it that I was, I felt was Hang in or just are we coming back to this?
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Are we going back to that?
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Or what are we doing?
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All right.
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So here's, we're going to do some spoilers.
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So if you haven't read it yet and you're going to read it fast forward.
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So husband cheated and that she found out right before they left.
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Yes.
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he's a snake.
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He is.
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He's, it's not even just for the cheating, but he got himself sick, made himself sick for sympathy to try to just get everything like, well, and that's what I like.
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Tell me more.
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Like, has he done more stuff like this?
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Like you just all medically go to OD on.
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Essential oils.
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I'm like, Right, I had no idea.
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And I'm an only girl, I love them.
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Eucalyptus oil.
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Right.
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I didn't know it would make you that sick.
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I mean, I don't know if that's true.
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Probably it's got to have some basis of truth, but Yeah, he is, he is She almost got arrested for attempted murder.
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But then he was like playing the hero like no she's fine yeah it was all just a big scheme for him to gain sympathy and get her back and yeah i wasn't a fan of him was his name matt i don't know no snake snake steven snake was yeah i wasn't a fan of him at all she almost got in trouble.
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Yeah.
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I'm glad that the library girl came to her notes.
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Yeah, from her notebook.
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Why we don't write things down.
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Yes.
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Why we keep it in the vault.
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We got to add that to our list of how to get away with.
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Yeah, don't write things down.
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I really don't even have that much more to say on it because like I just didn't connect with anything.
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Yeah, I get it.
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I would have been okay, like without the, um, the serial killer kind of just going back and forth and trying to, I mean, I guess they wouldn't have really connected without that, but I didn't feel like that was just like a huge piece of it.
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Well, I mean, it was like her revenge, right?
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Like that's how she, she got revenge on men because of, her boyfriend sabotaging their pregnancy or whatever.
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Right.
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I would just have liked to know like, why did all these women want to kill their husbands?
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Right.
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I'm just surprised that she was never found out until, you know, later, I mean, because women, we like to talk, but if the women talked, then they'd get caught.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I mean, they did it, right?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I would not read it again, but it was your face, but Reddit, once it started, I got through it.
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I was okay with it.
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Did you download one for the next week?
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The Glass Castle?
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I haven't started yet.
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I haven't either because I started reading something else, but not by Jeanette Walsh.
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Did you feel like I needed a break?
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Well, my book, at Libby was going to return in two days.
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So like I had to like, yeah.
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What are you listening to?
13:30
The Unwedding.
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Okay.
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You like it?
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I'm just started it.
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I'm on like 20 percent of the book.
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Okay.
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It's not like really catch me yet.
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I'm hoping it picks up.
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Okay.
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I'm listening to listen for the law by Amy Tenterra.
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as dude doing a podcast and the, the goes back to flashes back to the, he's trying to solve kind of, and present all the facts on when this girl yeah.
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Supposedly killed her best friend or framed for killing her best friend.
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They she We don't know who killed her.
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Her memory is gone.
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Okay, so he's like trying to pull all the evidence together.
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Yeah Okay, it sounds so familiar It might be on my, like, wait list.
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Maybe.
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Oh, one thing I did want to say about that book before we move on is, I liked the way, you know, a lot of books, even like this one I'm reading, they try to put, like, the characters together and there's always, you know, there's always hookups here and there, but they always try to get that main character.
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I really like the fact that, like, she was like, no, I'm fine on my own.
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You know, she wanted her space.
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Like, that was a different, piece than what we normally get.
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Because we normally get that, you know, it's like as soon as they introduce a dude, you're like, here we go.
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You know, sometimes I don't want to necessarily read about that.
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Just let her be a baddie by herself.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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We can feel that.
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I can't wait.
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She's a solo killer.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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Okay.
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So the Glass Castle is next week.
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It'll be great.
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Life's too short for bad books.
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But my thing is like, how far do we go?
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Yeah.
15:00
I'm like 30%.
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You get the 30.
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Yeah.
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And if it doesn't get you by then, you're like, ah, I can't.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I'm with you.
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I'm with you.
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I give it a little bit and then I'm going to drop out.
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Yeah.
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Just like school.
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I'm just kidding.
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I was like, wait, what?
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I really don't have a lot of notes this week because I've been so just all over the place.
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I did have a funny story I wanted to tell you.
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Okay.
15:21
Okay.
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So, well, two funny stories.
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So, since I've been having all these allergy things, my snoring, I've been snoring really bad.
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So, I've been wearing one of those.
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Thanks so much.
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The sleep strips.
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They're working.
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They're great.
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They're working.
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They're fine.
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But this morning I woke up and I have no idea where mine was.
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I don't know if it's in my hair.
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I don't know where.
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No, it's not my hair.
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At first, I thought it might have been and then I like brushed it out.
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I was like, no, it's not.
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Um, but okay, here's the other funny thing.
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Apparently, I'm a high maintenance sleeper because I didn't know this was a thing..
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I have hot flashes at night.
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Okay.
15:57
Because I'm that old and I have a fan beside my bed.
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Well, I'm a sleep on my right side person with my back like to the, like face and brown.
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Cause we do share a bed.
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We do cohabitate.
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He's my bed partner.
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So the fan behind me, like sometimes I can just reach it while I without moving and click it on.
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And sometimes I can't depends on where the dogs are laying on me and all that kind of stuff.
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Yeah.
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That's the whole thing.
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A whole, a whole, uh, production.
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Yes.
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Apparently it is.
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Well, I was like, I'm really, really hot, but I couldn't reach it.
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So I heard Brian move and I was like, Babe, can you turn my fan on?
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I thought he was getting up, like it was time for him to go to work or get up to his bathroom.
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And he was like, okay.
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He got up and did it and came back.
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And the next day he was like, did you remember telling me to do that?
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I was like, yeah, I thought you're going to use the bathroom while you're up.
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Just go and do it.
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He's like, I wasn't getting up.
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And I was like, well, thanks for turning my fan on for me.
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I really appreciate it.
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He did it.
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He did.
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He's nice.
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He did.
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I was so thankful he did.
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He does that.
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So that sometimes it's the little things.
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He leaves for work super early, and I sleep a couple more hours before I get up and start working and get Jay ready.
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Not get Jay ready.
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I don't dress him.
17:09
Well, I wake up and just make sure Dylan's awake.
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Yes, yes, and he'll turn my fan on in the morning if it's not on and it's just like, Yeah, yeah, it's a nice, breeze coming through.
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I need the fan like, like going.
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Yes.
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And then I'm like, it's cold.
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Yeah.
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Well, and then I'm like, is Rex cold?
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No, he's got like a, a built in sweater on.
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It's fine.
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He is fine.
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I was talking to him and he did not answer.
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He was being really rude.
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Have you been taking him on a lot of walks lately with the heat?
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Um, well, we went to the park yesterday.
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Oh, that's right.
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I saw your post.
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Yeah.
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Where'd you go?
17:42
Just to the Clover Park.
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Was it nice?
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It was hot.
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Yeah.
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But he drank like a bottle and a half of water.
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Less is more.
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But, yeah, I mean, it was good.
17:51
I just needed to get out and clear my head a little bit.
17:53
Yeah.
17:53
But always good to, you know, connect with nature.
17:56
Absolutely.
17:56
Absolutely.
17:57
So we went for three walks yesterday and we went for a walk this morning and it's been so hot.
18:01
It has.
18:02
I, you know, I worry about their little paws and I know that you are careful with that, but some people are not.
18:07
I got this, stuff to put on his paws that like put a protector of barrier on it.
18:11
Oh, mushers.
18:12
Yes.
18:13
That's the stuff that they use in the, Alaska or wherever.
18:16
I did a rob.
18:19
The thing That's the name of the, the, the race, isn't it?
18:22
Oh, I don't know.
18:23
I don't know the race's names.
18:24
Oh, I don't know why I would know that, but apparently I was, I'm trying to share knowledge and I suck again.
18:30
Oh, I, that's my life.
18:31
So did you see that article that it just came out about Sussex?
18:37
Falls South Dakota about the kid that got caught, doing graffiti.
18:42
It's such a good story.
18:43
So it's not a bad one.
18:45
I can't handle any bad stuff.
18:46
I know.
18:47
So, like, a wall got, full of graffiti, whatever, in the city, and the teenager got caught, the cops sent a video to the mayor, like, hey, look what happened, we're cleaning it up, but, the kids of minor were pressing charges.
19:00
So, the mayor was looking at this video, and was like, oh my gosh, this is really good work, this is really cool, and he's, trade or whatever, he's a graphic designer, the mayor.
19:10
Okay.
19:11
So he calls the cops get the kids contact information calls the kid and was like, hey, I know what you did and you're gonna have to go through the process, but I would really like for you to come down to my office Mm hmm.
19:22
So him and dad go to the dumps the office and the mayor was like well Unfortunately, because it is what it is, this is the situation, you're gonna have to go through the whole process.
19:34
Right.
19:34
but I would like to commission you for a piece of artwork.
19:37
Oh! And so, they agreed you know, the kid made the artwork, paid 800 for it, which was the amount that he owed the city.
19:45
for the graffiti.
19:47
Okay.
19:47
Yeah.
19:48
I was like, what a good people are not.
19:51
So he's got like this big piece of artwork behind his desk in his mayor's office.
19:54
but this kid did his graffiti and, the mayor is now working with, civilians in the city to have a wall where kids can go and graffiti it.
20:06
And not get in trouble and do the, you know, their artwork and whatnot and like hone in on their skills.
20:12
So I just thought that was such a cool story.
20:14
That is a good idea.
20:15
That's a good, that's a cool story.
20:17
Yes.
20:17
But if that's a good idea, because kids are going to do that stuff.
20:21
So give them a space where they can.
20:23
Yeah, I'm not opposed to that at all.
20:25
Yeah, I thought that was really cool.
20:26
Yeah, that is a happy feel good story.
20:29
Yeah, I like that one a lot.
20:30
Me too.
20:32
Good job, Mayor.
20:33
Yeah, that's South Dakota.
20:34
Okay, well, um.
20:36
No, we don't get political, but just a quick mention of you've heard what's going on in Colorado with the apartment complexes and stuff.
20:42
Yeah.
20:43
Crazy.
20:44
Everybody read up on that.
20:45
If you don't know, I'm not going into it.
20:47
Educate yourselves.
20:48
Yes.
20:48
You are not here to get educated.
20:49
I'm sure you can just cook in the little gook.
20:52
Yes.
20:52
Machine.
20:53
And if you're coming here to get educated, you have called the wrong number.
20:58
Everything on this is alleged.
21:00
Yes.
21:01
And most of the.
21:03
is not even true, but like what we think is facts.
21:07
So I had a dream the other night that, Clemson played, University of Georgia today.
21:11
And I had a dream about the bulldog.
21:15
Like there was a parade, and it was the Georgia parade.
21:18
And I was in it helping handle the dog.
21:21
Which that would be an amazing thing, even being a Clemson fan.
21:25
Yeah, I have dreams about dogs.
21:27
Sounds about right.
21:28
I don't dream very often.
21:30
I don't remember my dreams anyway very often.
21:32
Yeah.
21:33
and if I do normally, they're not good ones.
21:35
And like, I, then I don't sleep the rest of the night if I sleep at all.
21:39
Do you have recurring dreams?
21:40
We talked about this before.
21:41
I don't know.
21:42
I don't remember most of my dreams.
21:43
You seriously don't remember like any?
21:45
Okay.
21:45
I mean like if I do, it's like nothing good.
21:48
Yeah.
21:48
And like, Then I'm up the rest of the night.
21:50
I swear.
21:50
I listened to you when you said that.
21:51
I just didn't process until you said it the second time.
21:54
I have some recurring dreams but it's just like, Being in the backyard on my swing when I was little, like nothing big, nothing, nothing major, nothing.
22:03
But I, I have had it several times.
22:05
Yeah.
22:05
It's crazy.
22:07
Yeah.
22:08
Dreams are weird.
22:08
Yeah.
22:09
Uh, have you been on TikTok lately?
22:10
Little bit.
22:11
Okay.
22:11
Little bit.
22:12
How have you seen all this wedding dress drama?
22:15
No, but I'm so fascinated because my niece is getting married in March and she just went wedding dress shopping And I'm all into wedding dresses right now.
22:24
So tell me about the drama.
22:25
Okay.
22:26
Well, let me start with this So this has nothing to do with drama I saw in like Nashville that they now do friendship marriages Like it's the freaking coolest thing so you get to dress up like for a wedding Yeah, and you get to go and like profess your love for your best friend like that's pretty cool I'm, like I that is pretty cool dress me up dress me up dress me up I had so much fun wedding dress shopping like I loved every second of it.
22:55
Did you?
22:55
I did.
22:55
I liked walking down the little runways that they had there.
22:57
Oh yeah.
22:58
And like having like all of the the crowns.
23:00
Yeah.
23:01
And the tiaras.
23:02
Yeah.
23:02
And all the things.
23:03
Well when they, when you go they don't just like let you try on the dress.
23:06
They're like oh put it with the veil, put it with the shoes, put it with the crown, put it with this.
23:09
Yeah.
23:09
So we went to New York City because we lived in Pennsylvania.
23:11
Yeah.
23:12
It wasn't very far so we went to New York City to go look at dresses and stuff.
23:15
Yeah.
23:15
Didn't get my dress from there.
23:16
Yeah, but they have like the coolest setups there and a lot of stores and like legit like runways down and they're like, that's really cool.
23:23
Go just walk it.
23:24
And like, you know, like all the people that are like, Oh, you're so beautiful thing.
23:28
Everybody's like, thank you.
23:29
That is, that's it.
23:32
That's the one, you know, they're always, Oh, you're like a princess.
23:35
All of these.
23:35
I do remember that.
23:37
And then I remember also, okay.
23:39
A little bit different being pregnant.
23:40
Everybody like holding the doors for you.
23:42
Like, Oh, let me get that for you.
23:43
Oh, let me get that for you.
23:44
I missed that about being pregnant.
23:46
Yes.
23:46
Yeah.
23:47
Did you go wedding dress shopping a lot or was it like just a couple of trips and you knew what you wanted?
23:51
I probably went, so we did like the whole day in New York.
23:54
and then I probably went to like three or four more stores and I found the dress that I wore.
24:00
Yeah.
24:01
I found mine like the first day I went shopping.
24:04
I locked in.
24:05
Oh wow.
24:05
I know.
24:06
I wouldn't mess around.
24:08
I had stuff to do.
24:10
I wasn't sure like what style I wanted and you know like I was very indecisive with that but I ended up getting like a princess one.
24:17
Yeah.
24:19
Was it sleepless?
24:20
It was, yeah, it had like spaghetti strands.
24:21
I've seen pictures.
24:22
Yeah, but did you feel like a princess on your wedding day?
24:24
I did, well, we had a hurricane.
24:27
the night before my wedding.
24:28
So all of our family, That came in the night before all the cars were flooded at the hotels and, we had no power the morning of our wedding.
24:39
Like it was an omen.
24:42
If there was ever like signs that were like, Y'all were together for a very long time.
24:48
Okay.
24:48
Any who.
24:49
Yeah.
24:49
Moving on.
24:51
But, so we were supposed to get married outside.
24:53
That obviously didn't happen.
24:54
They had nowhere inside for us to get married.
24:57
So they just like threw a bunch of chairs and like our flowers in a conference room.
25:02
And that's where we got married.
25:04
What month?
25:05
September.
25:05
Okay.
25:08
So they threw us in like this random room because our backup plan was flooded it was the day the back stairs of like where our reception was.
25:14
that was flooded.
25:15
So our reception area was like the second floor.
25:18
So that wasn't affected by anything yeah.
25:21
Wow.
25:22
Yeah So yeah, well talking to stressful day talking to my my Soon to be niece.
25:29
I mean and my nephew prices have gone way up.
25:33
It's great.
25:34
We are in the wrong industry Well, no because I wouldn't want to deal with people I think I would like to to not with the people but I would like to do the decorating and all that kind of stuff I thought for a hot minute like that would be like a super fun.
25:45
Yeah job.
25:47
But do you ever see like all these brides?
25:48
Not everybody is as sweet as my niece.
25:50
Yeah She is just so gracious.
25:53
Like she's, yeah, not everybody's like that.
25:55
My mom did most of like the planning.
25:57
Yeah.
25:57
We lived in Tennessee and we got married in Pennsylvania.
26:00
So she went to like the tastings and stuff.
26:03
And I was just like, just, just make it happen.
26:04
Like I had, I I was like, whatever.
26:07
Yeah.
26:08
But you did look like a princess.
26:09
I was, I was very princessy.
26:12
But anywho, I was like, actually, I'm almost to my wedding.
26:16
Wait, I could probably fit into my wedding dress now.
26:21
Oh, goodness.
26:23
Yeah, so, anyway, the wedding dress drama.
26:25
Yes.
26:26
So, this girl, Riley, on TikTok, contacts this custom designer, out of Atlanta, slash Miami.
26:34
Okay.
26:35
In February, she orders a dress, they agree, she gives her all, like, the stuff, they agree on a design.
26:40
Whatever it's supposed to be done by August 10th because the wedding was last weekend.
26:43
Okay, so, going through the process, whatever.
26:47
the designer cancels.
26:49
Like, 1 or 2 of the fittings and whatever, and like, this is a custom dress, custom made for her body.
26:54
Right.
26:55
Supposed to be custom beading like the whole nine, you know, think it was like 7, 000 a dress, um, or close to there, like 6, 000 something.
27:02
So, August 10th, she's supposed to go for the final whatever, and she's supposed to take the dress home.
27:07
Okay.
27:08
She gets there.
27:09
The dress is like jacked and the whole bottom skirt wasn't done.
27:14
So she's obviously like freaking out like the girl's like well, no, don't worry.
27:19
Don't worry.
27:19
I'm gonna get it to you on this date misses that deadline Don't worry.
27:22
Don't worry.
27:23
Whatever.
27:23
So she's going like like can you send me pictures?
27:26
I want to make sure that it's right I you know, I need to know, that this is gonna be Like she, it was supposed to have like the, the points like at the top?
27:35
Yeah.
27:35
Yeah.
27:35
the points were like crooked and off.
27:37
Oh no.
27:38
And I mean, the whole thing was just like jacked.
27:40
So this poor girl Right.
27:41
Getting married.
27:42
Yeah.
27:43
And she's asking for pictures.
27:44
She's sending like blurry pictures.
27:45
Like you couldn't, like really see, so she's like, listen, can you FaceTime me?
27:50
I wanna make sure before you ship it that it's right.
27:53
It's now like three or four days before the wedding.
27:55
Oh my gosh.
27:56
So she's like, oh I shipped it i'll send you tracking in a few minutes and without doing the face time without sending clear pictures Chick's like looking at the tracking number not never scanned and she's like, yo Can you go down there and check it because nothing's scanning?
28:13
She's like, oh, I know them.
28:14
Don't worry about it Don't worry about it didn't scan till like You know, whatever, Tuesday.
28:20
No, Wednesday.
28:21
So she got the dress.
28:22
She's getting married Saturday.
28:24
Got the dress, I think, Thursday.
28:26
Dress is hideous.
28:29
Was not what she asked for.
28:30
the, train was, like, off center.
28:32
it was, like, to the right.
28:35
it didn't fit her correctly.
28:36
It Was.
28:38
Oh no.
28:39
Jacked.
28:40
The designer glued, glued all of the beading on there.
28:45
Oh my gosh.
28:47
it was that.
28:48
So she, this poor girl is like, are you gonna fly out here and fix this?
28:51
Like I can't wear this.
28:52
I can't.
28:53
I'm not wearing this to my wedding.
28:54
Yeah.
28:55
And.
28:56
Back and forth.
28:57
This is the girl's like, well, I want my money.
28:58
Where's the rest of my deposit?
28:59
Cause she paid 60 percent down.
29:01
And then, so she owed 40 percent of the balance.
29:03
Wait, the dressmaker was asking for the rest of that money?
29:06
No, you owe her a refund.
29:08
Well, she's like, where's my balance?
29:09
I'll, I'll fly out there when you pay my balance.
29:11
And the girl's like, this isn't even what I asked for.
29:14
Back and forth, whatever.
29:16
So in the meantime, the designer, Blasts this girl on social media.
29:21
She's getting married in two days.
29:24
This chick goes on there on Friday, the day before this girl's wedding.
29:26
And the girl said Hey, gotta go find a new dress.
29:29
We'll handle this Monday.
29:31
If you want me to ship it back, you can refund me and I'll ship it back to you.
29:34
But I've got to focus on my wedding now.
29:36
I will get in touch with you on Monday.
29:37
And she's, you know, showing on Tik TOK, like the receipts, this wedding dress designer goes on all social media and blasting this girl, Doxter, like everything people were going like crazy, After this poor girl bad reviews on where she works How can you even think that she's in the wrong?
29:56
Well, because the way that the designers hold it Yeah She's she over and I did out of the kindness of her heart This dress because she didn't get the balance paid on it And she wanted to make sure that this girl had a wedding dress and then the girl blocked her That's what she went out on everybody I mean, like, completely different than what this poor girl says.
30:14
Yeah.
30:15
And this girl came with all of the e text messages.
30:17
Yes! All of that.
30:18
Yes, girl! I mean, everything.
30:20
So, she goes off of social media because she's trying to get married and doesn't want to deal with any of this.
30:25
Don't blame her.
30:26
These people are going after her family.
30:28
Like, everybody.
30:30
So she comes on with all the receipts.
30:32
This is what happened.
30:34
I wasn't trying to come to social media.
30:35
I told her I would get contact to her Monday after I got married and enjoyed a day of being a newlywed.
30:40
I'm like, right.
30:42
and she was like, I told her I would ship back the dress for a refund and, or, you know, I'll ship back the skirt part and I'll keep the other part of the dress because I paid 60 percent of this.
30:54
And it was not wearable.
30:56
And, yeah.
30:58
So, this girl got harassed for an entire week.
31:03
And, she finally, finally like, she had contacted an attorney because she was like, what the heck am I supposed to do?
31:10
And they said that, you know, she should make a public statement with, Receipts showing what really happened.
31:15
So, oh, oh, and then the dress designer started to go fund me to cover her cover the expenses of her workers for the stress that she was under and the expedited shipping i'm sure and all that kind of stuff Yeah And so the girl was like, well, when I saw that there was a go fund me, I needed to address this.
31:32
This is ridiculous.
31:33
Yeah.
31:34
Oh my gosh.
31:35
That's crazy.
31:37
So how much was the 60 percent that she paid?
31:39
You know, it was like 3, 800.
31:42
Oh, okay.
31:42
7, 000 total.
31:44
Okay.
31:44
Still though.
31:45
That's oh, poor girl.
31:47
I know.
31:47
So she had to go out and find a dress off the rack and have it altered.
31:52
She did talk to her, alteration person near her that she uses.
31:55
And the lady was like, I can't work with this.
31:59
Yeah, like there is too much.
32:00
Everything is off center, cockeyed, twisted.
32:03
Oh, that stinks.
32:05
Yeah, especially when somebody's already in business.
32:08
You think they're going to be, you know, reputable and trustworthy and all that stinks.
32:14
Yeah, so that poor chick.
32:15
But yeah, she looked beautiful in the dress that she had on.
32:17
Oh good.
32:18
I'm sure it was way more fitting for her.
32:21
I mean like it just it was beautiful.
32:23
She looked wonderful.
32:24
Good, and they just got married last weekend you said?
32:27
Oh, Congrats girl.
32:29
So congrats.
32:32
OMG.
32:33
Yes.
32:34
Did you see my note?
32:34
I did.
32:35
Tell me all about this.
32:37
Okay.
32:37
So I was just like scrolling on TikTok and somebody had said, have you heard about the Amazon review killer?
32:44
And I was like, I'm all in.
32:47
Yeah.
32:47
Had me on Amazon.
32:48
Yeah.
32:48
Right.
32:49
so Todd, I don't know if I'm saying this right.
32:54
And it was in Spartansburg, South Carolina, where I guess some of this had occurred.
32:59
But like, he was always like a jacked up kid.
33:00
I mean, just a bad kid, a bad apple.
33:03
Okay.
33:03
I mean, he was always in trouble.
33:05
Okay when he was 15, he kidnapped a 14 year old girl and essayed her.
33:10
Mm.
33:11
Um, there was another woman that was also, kidnapped and S.
33:16
A.
33:16
D.
33:16
E.
33:16
d.
33:16
He murdered seven people.
33:18
What?
33:19
Okay, so for reference though, Spartanburg is like an hour and a half from us.
33:22
Yeah.
33:22
That's not far.
33:23
Yeah.
33:24
Okay.
33:24
So, I think he was convicted in like 2015 or something like that.
33:28
It was like a little while ago.
33:30
So this dummy, right?
33:31
Like, I mean, there's some dumb like killers.
33:33
Oh, yeah.
33:33
He's a freaking dummy.
33:34
I guess purchased his items that he used while he was doing all these things.
33:39
And then reviewed them on Amazon.
33:41
Can I read you some of the reviews?
33:42
I would love to, like, did he say this rope was perfect for, yeah, tell me about it.
33:47
So the mini shovel that he purchased, he gave a five star review.
33:52
And his review says, keep in the car for when you have to hide the bodies and you left the full size shovel at home.
33:59
Does not come with the midget, which would have been nice.
34:02
Oh my gosh.
34:04
That was his review for that movie.
34:05
And people probably thought he was kidding.
34:07
I mean, I would if I saw that.
34:09
Yeah.
34:09
Okay.
34:09
Okay.
34:10
next.
34:10
Chainsaw.
34:12
Five star review.
34:14
Works excellent.
34:14
Getting the neighbor to stand still while you chase him with it's hard enough without having a easy to use chainsaw.
34:24
Oh my god.
34:25
Padlock review.
34:26
Five star.
34:28
Solid locks.
34:30
Five on a shipping container.
34:32
Won't stop them, but sure we'll slow them down until they are too old to care.
34:36
Okay.
34:37
And the last one that I saved was the knife.
34:41
Four stars.
34:42
Okay.
34:43
Haven't stabbed anyone yet.
34:44
When I do, it will be with a quality tool like this.
34:48
So, okay.
34:51
Somebody put all these pieces together, that this was him.
34:55
He used his own name.
34:56
And so when all of it came out, okay.
34:59
They found his Amazon account with all these reviews.
35:02
I wonder what my reviews are of.
35:04
What?
35:05
I don't know.
35:06
What they're going to connect to when you do a crime.
35:09
Yeah.
35:10
They're going to connect me with my review of the, this is the best printer I could have bought.
35:16
High quality ink.
35:17
Yeah.
35:18
That's crazy.
35:20
I know.
35:21
So, okay, you mentioned he did stuff when he was younger, but he killed seven people like as an adult.
35:26
Yes, he went to, I guess juvie or whatever, was released.
35:29
I think there was like some crimes within there, but then 10 years later, he got convicted of the, the murders.
35:39
Your face.
35:40
Like, yeah.
35:41
What?
35:42
I can't believe that.
35:42
I can't, I mean, I would, I would see that and think they were kidding.
35:46
Like, I wouldn't think that that was serious.
35:48
Thank you.
35:50
And if I saw one, I wouldn't be like, oh, I bet he's got a lot of reviews in here like that.
35:54
Kind of like, how did I never hear about this?
35:56
Right.
35:56
That's kind of scary too.
35:57
Well, so 10 years ago, our kids were five and six ish.
36:02
We were very busy with the kindergarten life.
36:04
This is true.
36:06
Very busy with figuring all that out.
36:07
I still don't know what I'm doing.
36:09
Yeah.
36:10
Yeah, bananas.
36:11
That is crazy.
36:12
And the Spartanburg, I like close to home stuff.
36:15
Have you ever listened to the podcast, Carolina crimes?
36:18
It's neat.
36:19
I mean, it's not my favorite like format and presentation.
36:22
I mean, that's interesting enough to listen to it.
36:25
but yeah, they're all crimes in North and South Carolina.
36:28
I think mostly South.
36:30
During COVID, I was watching, Like I don't know some crime show tv about like murders in your hometown or whatever and there was one in Rock Hill and I was like that was my reaction I heard like I was like doing packages or something and like I just heard Rock Hill and I was like what yeah yeah and then there was one in Gastonia that was on there too really yeah you.
36:52
So I was watching, I don't know one of those crime shows too.
36:56
I don't know what it was and I hear like Wally.
36:59
Oh Yes.
37:00
So, the woman had poisoned her husband with Vazine.
37:05
I remember this.
37:06
Yep.
37:06
Yep.
37:07
She had poisoned her husband with Vazine and, yeah, she's in jail.
37:11
They lived, I mean, like, two minutes away from my life.
37:15
Yeah.
37:15
Yeah.
37:18
Am I the whole time?
37:19
Sure.
37:19
Okay.
37:21
Okay.
37:21
I'm 24 and a female best friend.
37:23
She's a 23 year old female.
37:26
Did something horrible at a mutual family friend's wedding and blamed it on my younger sister.
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Who's a 19 year old female.
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I'm considering cutting ties with her, but I'm having a hard time.
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Okay.
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Here we go.
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Hi reddit.
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This is a bit of an unusual situation, but I'll try to explain it as best as I can.
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The story involves myself, my best friend, Caroline, my younger sister, Nicola, and our mutual friend slash groomsman, Daniel, who's a 28 year old male.
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Using real names because I know Caroline doesn't read it, and if anyone who witnesses happens to see this, I'd love for them to get the actual facts of the story.
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Girl, okay, so over the weekend a very good family friend of both my family and Caroline's family was getting married.
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Caroline and I have been best friends for years.
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We met when we were toddlers, our moms are best friends, our sisters are friends, etc.
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Etc.
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You get the picture.
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We knew that both of our families would be invited to this wedding and we were Looking forward to it for months.
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It's important to note that Caroline's family and my family have a ton of mutual friends and this was going to be a very large wedding.
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Guest count was in the 500s.
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That is a very large wedding.
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Everything was going fine and dandy until Caroline got completely wasted.
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She kept talking to me about how hot one of the groomsmen Daniel was and how she'd had a crush on him for years but he showed no interest.
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This was probably because he was in a serious relationship and had been dating his current girlfriend for about six years.
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The girlfriend decided not to attend the wedding because she didn't know the bride and groom very well and because Daniel would be in groomsmen She wouldn't see him very much either.
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Fast forward a couple of hours and Caroline is hanging all over Daniel She's constantly asking him to dance with her get her drinks from the open bar, etc She's point blank throwing herself at him and it was embarrassing and painful to watch.
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I tried interviewing a couple Well, no, she didn't interview her.
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That would be a terrible place to interview somebody.
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It'd be a fun place to interview people.
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They'd be drunk.
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That's true.
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Oh, have you seen, time out, have you seen the TikToks?
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This is me before the wedding.
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Yeah.
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Um, okay.
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So I tried intervening a couple of times to get her off of him, but she snapped me.
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And at that point I decided it wasn't my problem.
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Furthermore, Daniel wasn't completely pushing her away.
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He looked like he'd had a few drinks in him as well and seemed somewhat interested in Caroline.
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I decided that if he didn't care, I certainly wasn't going to.
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If he wanted to throw his relationship away, it was none of my concern.
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I tried.
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I didn't witness this next part, but by the end of the night, Caroline and Daniel were having intercourse in a different room of the hall.
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Yes, it escalated very quickly.
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To their misfortune, someone, I'm not sure who, just that it was someone's mom who knew Daniel and his girlfriend, but didn't know Caroline, walked in on them.
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And for some reason, Caroline told this woman that she was Nicola.
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Which is her sister.
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Oh my God.
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I don't know if she was embarrassed or drunk or what, but she purposely identified herself as Nicola, so Caroline herself would not be in trouble.
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Word quickly spread that Daniel and Ola recall having sex, and Nicola was mortified.
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People were talking about how disrespectful home, wrecking, rude, slutty Ola was.
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I honestly can't even blame them.
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Had I not known better, I would be thinking the same things.
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On top of that, caroline had gone around actually telling other people that it was Nicola and confirming the rumor she started.
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The bride and groom were pissed.
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Everyone was talking badly about my sister and Caroline seemed to not care.
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In fact, when I confronted her about the situation at the wedding, she straight up denied it.
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Had Daniel not confirmed that it was Caroline he was hooking up with and not Nicola, I might have even believed her.
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The next day Caroline texted Nicola a half hearted apology about the whole thing, saying she was so drunk and didn't know what she was doing.
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The text included a lot of lol's and haha's so I'm not sure how seriously she took it.
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She doesn't seem to realize how mortified Nicola is.
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Nicola genuinely thinks that her life is ruined.
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We live in a very tight knit community, and a lot of people have heard the false version of what went down.
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I'm at odds with what to do.
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Up until this point, Carolyn had been a very good friend to both I and Nicola.
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Ugh, her grammar's terrible.
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I'm not just sure if I can forgive her for this, especially considering her lack of consciousness about how bad the situation really is.
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Should I dump her?
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Or should I give her another chance?
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Our friendship will be different regardless.
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My family sees Caroline in a completely different light now.
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So, even if I forgave her, We wouldn't be able to do a lot of the same things we used to, like hang out at my house, do things with my family, etc.
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What should I do, Reddit?
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Alright.
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Edit.
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At this point, a lot of people know that it was Caroline with Daniel, not Nicola.
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However, I am not sure how many is a lot.
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Only family and friends know, but there are a lot of guests at the wedding who knew Caroline's family better than they did mine.
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I'm sure these people still think it was Nicola.
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Edit 2.
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Another issue is that Nicole is also terrified of the potential ramifications from Daniel's current girlfriend.
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I have absolutely no updates on the situation with the girlfriend.
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I don't know her well, and I don't know what Daniel has chosen to share with her, if anything at all.
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Edit 3.
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Because a lot of people are asking me how I could even consider remaining friends with Caroline, prior to this experience, she was honestly a great best friend.
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Of course, we've had our ups and downs like all friends do, but she has always been kind and caring and And I really valued our friendship.
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I've known her for my whole life and that evening at the wedding was very uncharacteristic of her, including her coming on to a man who was in a relationship.
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Throwing away a friendship with someone you've been close to for 15 plus years is extremely difficult.
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However, I'm prepared to do this if it's the right thing to do.
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Another update.
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Okay.
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Wait, do you want to chime in?
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Yeah.
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But I don't know what, what I would do.
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I mean, I would say dump the friend, but what if she's, what if her sister's crazy?
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Why would her sister be crazy?
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Like I already admitted that it was her, the guy admitted that it was right.
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But what if, what if like, she's not really close with the sister at all?
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What if that's like the only time she ever sees a sister is like a family functions.
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Well, I would assume not, because she said that Caroline was friends with her sister too.
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Okay.
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You're, you're right, you're right.
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I would assume that they're all close.
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Yeah.
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Sometimes I make bigger deals outta things.
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Yeah.
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I, that's a weird situation.
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I'm not the bride in the groom like I to make an announcement like it was Yeah.
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Excuse me.
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Thank you.
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And no thank you cards.
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Yeah.
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Thank you for coming.
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I loved the Glass Bs and by the way, it was Caroline Caroline's the Hope Yeah.
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I don't know, I mean.
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All right.
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So let's read that date.
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Okay.
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First off, I wanted to give a huge thank you to everyone who responded.
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I definitely did not expect such a a large amount of help and guidance from everyone.
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This community is awesome.
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And I really appreciate everyone's time and advice.
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I unfortunately could not respond to very many people's posts as I left the thread overnight, and once I woke up, it was locked.
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So I figured the least I could do is provide an update.
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So about a week and a half ago, Caroline casually called me and asked me to sleep over.
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She wanted to attend an event downtown, and my place was much closer to the event than hers.
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At this point, it became very clear that Caroline had no idea that anybody was upset with her, despite the fact that Nicola and I hadn't spoken with her since the wedding.
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I I told Caroline that I didn't think her sleeping over was a good idea, and when she asked why, I brought up what happened at the wedding.
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She laughed and said Nicola needed to grow up and get over it, and it really seemed like she expected me to agree and laugh along with her.
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Well, Reddit, I took your advice and let her have it.
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I told her how selfish and inconsiderate she was.
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And if it truly was no big deal, then she should have no problem taking full responsibility for her actions and publicly acknowledging that she was the one who hooked up with Daniel, not Nicola.
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I told her she needed to make things right because Nicola was still mortified over something she didn't do.
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At the end of the phone call, I gave her an ultimatum, post Facebook and spill the beans about what actually happened or our friendship was over, thanks to their redditor, who suggested this.
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To my complete and utter surprise, she did it.
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I thought it wouldn't make me feel better, but people were actually commenting on her Facebook status, commending her bravery and the fact that she did the right thing.
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I was super annoyed because, of course, she would never have done this had I not forced her to, but at the end of the day, Nicola is happy and her name is in the clear.
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Oh, and an update on Daniel and his girlfriend.
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According to his Instagram, they're happily together.
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Whether or not she knows about Caroline, I don't know and I don't care.
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Not my trainwreck.
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Oh my gosh.
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Well.
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I mean, so it was, that's a lot to unpack.
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That's a lot to unpack.
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Yeah.
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I think that was a, that was a great plan.
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Like post the apology.
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And we'll be friends again.
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Like, I think that was a great plan.
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But then it's kind of, you know, you want a little bit of, vengeance to come to them.
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And then for everybody, oh, you're so brave.
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It's kind of like backfires in you.
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But I mean, she did it.
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So be friends.
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I don't think she was an a hole for I don't think she was an a hole for, like, making it like, oh, well, your sister needs to grow up.
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Yes, she was the, friend.
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Caroline was an a hole.
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Yes, Caroline was an a hole.
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She, uh, first of all, why did she say her, the sister's name?
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There's something to, to go through there, too.
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Like, what?
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Are you gonna make up, like, a Beatrice?
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Right.
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This is Evelyn Hugo.
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Put on a fake accent?
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Yeah, that's probably what I would have done.
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Hello love! Cheerio! It's tea time.
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Take the tube.
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Yeah.
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The channel.
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Are we gonna take the channel?
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To France.
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I think she was an a hole for that whole situation.
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I just think that's really random that the first name that came to her mind is, let me lie and say my best friend's sister's name.
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Yeah.
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Who's 19.
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Yeah.
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She's not a child, but.
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I don't know.
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Craziness.
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I don't, I don't think, um, the friend with the, with the sister is an a hole for having her sister's back.
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but yeah, that was, there was a lot going on in that.
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Well, what do you think?
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Same thing?
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Yeah.
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I don't know why you wanna just make up like a generic, like Jen, like, or why do you have to say who you are?
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Well, I guess she'd like, how are you?
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I guess like the lady was like yelling or like, yeah, I don't think, like, they were in the middle of it and she was like, hi, I am nicola, whatever.
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Like, I'm sure it was like a right.
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I don't know.
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I'm kind of mad at the dude too.
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Like he didn't say it wasn't her that, and then first of all, he's cheating on his, his person.
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So like graphic, but like what position were they in that the lady didn't actually see?
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Oh, I didn't think about that, but now I am.
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Thanks.
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I mean, it wasn't like a dark closet, you know, like it was like, uh, I don't know.
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I don't know why I'm picturing like an office conference room now.
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Yeah.
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But like, right.
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I have seen like something.
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Maybe she didn't.
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She saw the back of him.
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Yes.
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And the back of her.
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This is gonna have an E on it, isn't it?
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Okay.
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I'll make it not.
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You'll make it not have E's.
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Are you gonna bleep?
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Yeah.
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You should start beeping at people like, oh my god, what are they talking about?
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That'd be great.
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Unless you get the paid subscription and then you get all access.
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All access.
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I'll even cuss for you.
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I'm just kidding.
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Maybe, maybe not.
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We don't know.
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My mom is she's half Yugoslavian, which is now a profession.
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She's gone there before.
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And so she's just really wants to learn the language.
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And so she's practices every day, but she can't do like the rolled R's.
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Yeah.
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And I can't either.
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So we went out to lunch with my, my mom's cousins, and they were talking about they just got back from Italy and, you know, I learned Italian and whatever.
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And I said, well, I, the only thing I like got from language from school was absolutely nothing.
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But prior to that, my brother's really good friend, was Spanish.
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And so he had taught me all the swear words.
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Yeah.
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And I still know all those.
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And I know bathroom and beer in Spanish.
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So, but my mom was like, I can't roll my R's.
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And I said, I can't either.
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Like, I know that my swear words are not enunciated correctly.
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You just did the hand.
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Yeah..
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Um, have you ever traveled abroad?
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I mean, I know we've been to Mexico and stuff like that.
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I mean, just islands.
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I've never, I mean, like, not just islands, but like, like Aruba.
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Yeah.
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Not like Europe, like I want to take you to Bermuda, but that was our song for the day.
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Okay.
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Good.
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yeah, I've been to a few islands too.
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I want to do Europe though.
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I really, really want to, and they've got a group with the school that's going, it's like 30 people and they've got the itinerary and you go and Jackson doesn't really want to go.
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What if I just go with another kid?
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I don't care.
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Would that be frowned upon?
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Actually, so my friend, Amanda, she's got a daughter that's in the same grade as Jackson.
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Her name is Sophie and I used to take Sophie to school a little bit before we ran too late all the time.
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And Sophie was like, I'm going to find another ride.
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And it's okay.
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It's okay.
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It's no big deal.
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It's fine.
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You late.
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Didn't hurt my feelings at all.
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I know.
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Right.
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no, I'm just kidding.
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So Sophie wants to go.
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But she's never traveled like that.
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I mean, of course by herself without her parents, right?
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I mean, she's 15.
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It's like, okay.
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So if he needs me to go, I need to go for herself.
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So it's a great though.
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It's great.
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It's like the Mediterranean coast.
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It's like, Morocco.
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Oh, that's cool.
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Yeah.
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Well as some of the UK, but then they also go there like it's 11 days.
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Yeah That would stress me out.
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I think though what being gone that long being going with kids being whatever.
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Well, all of it I think having to be on a strict itinerary like I am not good at schedules Yeah, so I think that would stress me out.
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Well, my thing is I don't know enough about that area over there to know how to schedule it and do it myself and see everything.
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So that's some of it.
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That's a little, feels a little good to me, actually like somebody else has planned it and knows where we're supposed to be and when I just have to go.
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And Brian doesn't handle stress well.
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Like if we take a wrong turn, he's gotten a lot better, but he used to be like, Oh, I don't know where we're going.
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Like, Oh, hold on.
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Yeah.
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Have you seen this app?
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The GPS app that squares at you.
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What is set at?
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We're getting.
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It is.
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BS navigator.
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That sounds great.
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So what does it do?
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It yells at you.
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If you don't take the right turn, it's so freaking funny.
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Hear that voice say it.
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So there's your app.
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There's the app that I think is hysterical.
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I can turn on insults, update the profanity settings, and a bunch of other useful crap.
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That's what it says.
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Okay.
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Didn't tell Dylan that I put that on my phone and then like we were driving somewhere and it started saying it and I had it on the speakers.
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That's great.
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Oh, that's where it was going.
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Like, so if you missed your turn, it's like, I told you that what the directions were, you effing idiot.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Well, that's going back to the trip.
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Like he, that stresses me out about how stressed out he would be.
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So knowing We don't have to do that.
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Yeah.
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well, I'd love to do it, but maybe not with the kids.
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Yeah.
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but just have the itinerary.
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So, well, on that happy note.
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