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Episode 7 | IRON SHARPEN IRON · If I Knew Then What I Know Now

0:25
SPEAKER_02: We done started.
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SPEAKER_02: Anyway, we gotta start a podcast all idea, man.
0:30
SPEAKER_02: Happy birthday to birthday to you.
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SPEAKER_02: Happy birthday.
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SPEAKER_01: Happy birthday.
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SPEAKER_01: Happy birthday to you.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Happy birthday.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Happy birthday to the boy.
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SPEAKER_01: Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Will himself.
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SPEAKER_01: How old you get it, ladies?
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SPEAKER_01: 31.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: We talk about jumping, but we're talking about the wheel.
1:01
SPEAKER_01: Let's get it, my boy.
1:02
SPEAKER_01: Happy birthday.
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SPEAKER_02: You 31, I'm 32.
1:04
SPEAKER_02: How old you is, Johnny?
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SPEAKER_01: I'm 37.
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SPEAKER_02: Granddaddy of the group.
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SPEAKER_02: Granddaddy of the group is a bit brother than my boy.
1:13
SPEAKER_02: Man, we back, man.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: It's been two weeks.
1:14
SPEAKER_02: We back, it's been two weeks, man.
1:17
SPEAKER_02: Stick to the cut.
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SPEAKER_02: Yes, obedient determination ever, man.
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SPEAKER_02: It's Corey Davis, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Corey C Core with E Dig me.
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SPEAKER_02: Say that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this your boy Johnny Glady, Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Hip Hop Cardi.
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SPEAKER_01: Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Glady to talk dick care.
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SPEAKER_01: We take your picture.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll be glad to.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, you can call me also Mr.
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SPEAKER_01: Chat B-I-G.
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SPEAKER_01: Let's get it.
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SPEAKER_02: Chat B-I-G not chat G P T.
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SPEAKER_02: Chat B-I-G.
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SPEAKER_02: Chat Big Bat.
1:46
SPEAKER_02: Hey, man.
1:47
SPEAKER_02: We're talking about it, hey man.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: Look, hold on.
1:48
SPEAKER_02: Well, shout out to everybody who's been following us.
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SPEAKER_02: We are on Apple Music.
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SPEAKER_02: We're on Spotify.
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SPEAKER_02: We are on YouTube.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: All you gotta do is type in if I knew then.
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SPEAKER_01: What I know now.
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SPEAKER_01: The podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
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SPEAKER_02: You see how we fit that in there.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: We're good, man.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
2:02
SPEAKER_01: You see how did that?
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SPEAKER_01: You see how many of that.
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SPEAKER_01: He forgot about it.
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SPEAKER_02: He forgot about it.
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SPEAKER_02: I threw it in there.
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SPEAKER_01: Corey, yeah, I don't believe Corey.
2:07
SPEAKER_01: It's becoming natural.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
2:09
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: If I do that, if I do that.
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SPEAKER_01: But today, we got a good old topic for everybody.
2:13
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: For real.
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SPEAKER_01: And we went, we want to appreciate Wade coming in the pod on his birthday.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: But we gotta.
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SPEAKER_02: That's how you know a nigga ain't got nothing to do.
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SPEAKER_01: Ain't got nothing to do.
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SPEAKER_02: Wade came in on his birthday for the podcast, man.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to Wade.
2:28
SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
2:30
SPEAKER_02: Hey bro, what are we talking about today?
2:31
SPEAKER_02: It's Wednesday.
2:32
SPEAKER_02: He ain't got nothing to do.
2:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: What we talking about today, baby?
2:35
SPEAKER_02: But we're talking about iron sharpens iron.
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SPEAKER_02: Iron sharpens iron, man.
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SPEAKER_01: Iron sharpens iron, my boy.
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SPEAKER_02: What's the first thing that cut in your head when you hear that, man?
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SPEAKER_01: Bro, when I think about iron sharpens iron, bro, I I think about frictioning.
2:51
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
2:52
SPEAKER_01: Something that, something that's not always easy to hear and it's tough.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm trying to say?
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SPEAKER_01: But but at the end of the day, it makes you a better person.
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SPEAKER_01: Some you need to hear.
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SPEAKER_01: Some you need to hear.
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SPEAKER_02: Some you don't want to hear, but you need to hear.
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SPEAKER_01: Bro, and I think that, bro, that's a lot of people, bro, a lot of people that struggle with, you know, iron shopping iron because they don't want, I mean, it's think about how many times we don't been around people that you can't you can't say nothing to them.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
3:15
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: You can't encourage them.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't, you can't tell them what you would do.
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SPEAKER_01: You can't criticize them and okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Can't criticize them, give them giving uh giving any suggestions because instead of feeling like you they you um but I can't even talk today.
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SPEAKER_01: Instead of feeling like they're getting help, they feel attacked.
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SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
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SPEAKER_02: Come on now.
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SPEAKER_02: They feel attacked.
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead and pull their scripture away.
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SPEAKER_02: Iron sharpened iron.
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SPEAKER_02: I think it's Proverbs.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, we're gonna read that for y'all, man.
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SPEAKER_02: We're gonna show y'all what the Bible said about iron sharpening iron, man.
3:42
SPEAKER_02: But the Bible says a lot about um fellow believers criticizing each other in a respectful manner.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: Because it's needed.
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SPEAKER_02: At the end of the day, we not perfect.
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SPEAKER_01: But we ought to we ought to strengthen our brothers, you know what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_01: Or it's our duty, it's it's our opposite.
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SPEAKER_02: It's our duty.
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SPEAKER_01: It's our job to hold each other accountable.
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SPEAKER_02: Facts.
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SPEAKER_01: And people don't want to talk about that when it comes to the word because they want they they don't want accountability no more.
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SPEAKER_02: No, everybody wanna do whatever they want to do and don't want to be, hey man, you might need to slow down.
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SPEAKER_02: Or hey man, did you think about the way you said that?
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SPEAKER_02: Hey man, do you think that was a smart route to take?
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SPEAKER_02: Don't nobody want to do that no more.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, everybody grown.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm grown.
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SPEAKER_02: I can I I'm going to the beat of my own drone.
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SPEAKER_02: Bro.
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SPEAKER_02: What'd he say, Wade?
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SPEAKER_00: Turn your Bibles to Proverbs 27 and 17.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes up.
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SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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SPEAKER_00: As iron sharpens iron, uh-huh, so one person sharpens another.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
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SPEAKER_02: Come on, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Simple verse.
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SPEAKER_00: Simple verse.
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SPEAKER_02: As iron sharpens iron, so does one per person sharpen another.
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SPEAKER_02: You should want to be sharpened.
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SPEAKER_01: You should want to be sharpened.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what happens over time when you don't get sharpened, what happens?
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SPEAKER_02: You get dull.
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SPEAKER_02: You get dull.
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SPEAKER_02: When you don't get sharpened, you get dull over time.
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SPEAKER_02: We all need to stay sharp.
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SPEAKER_02: So an only way for me to get sharp is for you to hold me accountable.
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SPEAKER_01: Bro.
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SPEAKER_01: But then but then we're trying to do on our own.
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SPEAKER_01: You wonder why you're not succeeding.
5:09
SPEAKER_01: You wonder why you keep bumming your head.
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SPEAKER_01: You wonder why you keep messing up.
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SPEAKER_01: You wonder why you can't, you can't, you can't even be sharp mentally because you dull.
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SPEAKER_01: You dull.
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SPEAKER_01: You dull.
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SPEAKER_01: How can you slice through life when you're dull?
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SPEAKER_02: How can you slice slice through life when you're doing?
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SPEAKER_01: Bro, come on now.
5:28
SPEAKER_01: Bro, I was read.
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SPEAKER_01: They was joining me earlier because I got some stuff from ChatGBT.
5:33
SPEAKER_01: But Chat BG.
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SPEAKER_01: Man, ChatGBT said people struggle with the idea versus the reality.
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SPEAKER_01: It says we love the idea growth.
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SPEAKER_01: We love saying, I want to be better, but the reality is growth comes with friction and sharpening.
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SPEAKER_01: This isn't soft.
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SPEAKER_01: That's pressure.
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SPEAKER_01: Now, that's what they don't want.
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SPEAKER_02: No.
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SPEAKER_01: People don't want the pressure because they feel like, oh, I gotta be in control of the situation.
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SPEAKER_01: I gotta be in control of the narrative.
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SPEAKER_01: It gotta be how I want it to be, or my mama did like this, my dad did like this, or whatever issues are going on.
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SPEAKER_01: It's gotten me to the fact of like, I don't even want to, I don't want nobody to even say nothing to me.
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SPEAKER_02: The biggest key word here is change.
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SPEAKER_02: Change.
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta change when you be in sharpened.
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SPEAKER_02: And people don't want to change.
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SPEAKER_02: They want to be stuck in their way.
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SPEAKER_02: They want to keep going through the same routine, they want to keep living life the way they live in life.
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SPEAKER_02: When iron sharpened irons, it causes you to go through a stage of uncomfortableness.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: If I say something to you out of respect, but it's something that I I feel in my spirit that I need to say to you, how you receive it is gonna make all of the difference.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: If if if if what I'm saying to you, you immediately feel an attack and you're not feeling like and you're not feeling like I'm able to help you, or you feel like you feel like I'm just coming at you, just just like down in you or trashing you or something like that, we're never gonna get nowhere.
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SPEAKER_01: Bro, that comes with a level of maturity.
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SPEAKER_01: That means that that means if I if I gotta allow somebody to correct me, that means it's not about them, but I gotta be mature enough.
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SPEAKER_02: People that don't like being sharpened are immature people.
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SPEAKER_02: Are mature.
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SPEAKER_01: You immature.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: And people like like me and you, bro, people don't know it, people don't know it, but you know, they they may always think that you on my side, I'm on your side.
7:13
SPEAKER_01: Nah, there's plenty of times where you be like, Johnny, you wrong.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: There's plenty of times I've been like Corey, you wrong.
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SPEAKER_01: You wrong.
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SPEAKER_02: And a real brother, you're gonna do that.
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SPEAKER_02: If you got a whole bunch of yes men around you that speak on that real quick, door.
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SPEAKER_02: If you got a whole bunch of people posting to everything you do because they don't want to ruffle your feathers, they don't want to make you feel some type of way, they don't want to get up under your skin, so they walk around eggshells on you.
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SPEAKER_02: They'll make the type of friends you want to have around you.
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SPEAKER_01: They make the type of friends you want to have.
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SPEAKER_02: I need somebody that's gonna cut me.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: I need somebody that's gonna sharpen my knife.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: As iron sharpens another, your brother should sharpen a brother.
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SPEAKER_02: So I can't just be walking through life thinking I got it all together, because I don't.
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SPEAKER_01: Because you have you should have a circle of friends that can build your character, build your integrity, build how you think, build how you respond.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_01: And if you go around here about my the biggest I see dudes all the time, I'm Macho Man, I'm Alpha.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: They want to be the alpha male, they don't even really understand what that really means.
8:05
SPEAKER_01: They want to be in charge, but it creates such a cockiness and an arrogance that causes causes them, but I can't talk today, boy, causes them not to be coachable.
8:16
SPEAKER_02: Facts.
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SPEAKER_01: But y'all want to laughing at it, y'all.
8:19
SPEAKER_02: A true leader is coachable.
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SPEAKER_01: Bro, coachable.
8:22
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: Even as a leader, you still gotta learn how to follow.
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SPEAKER_02: Even as a leader, you gotta learn how to listen.
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta learn how to respond.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, it's it's leadership don't mean that you the top dog, can't nobody say nothing to you.
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SPEAKER_02: Leadership is being able to understand that you are the leader, but you are able to come down to a place to where you can meet other people's needs and being able to actually hear what other people gotta say.
8:46
SPEAKER_01: Bro, because is listen, because it's not the principle, it's the process.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: It's the principle.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: You know, it's the process.
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SPEAKER_01: And what you what you're saying is makes a whole lot of sense because it's not the fact that you know the iron sharp is iron, but it's it's it's it's the point of can I be in a place where I can receive?
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
9:04
SPEAKER_01: Right.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: That we have to be in that place where we can receive, you know.
9:06
SPEAKER_02: Wait, type this in on Google too.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't remember the exact scripture, but if you type it in, it should pop up.
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SPEAKER_02: Just type in something about um Christian brothers uh chastising or Christian brothers critiquing other Christian brothers.
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SPEAKER_02: It's gonna pop up.
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SPEAKER_02: Cause that's in the Bible too.
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SPEAKER_02: Because people be quick to say, don't judge, don't judge me, don't judge me when I call out a flaw or something like that.
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SPEAKER_02: And also pull up the scripture, uh, getting the speck out your eye.
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SPEAKER_02: Pull that scripture up too.
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SPEAKER_02: So pull them, have them two scriptures ready to go.
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SPEAKER_02: We're gonna go dissect them.
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SPEAKER_02: But the other one is uh plank um I um get the plank out your eye.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, get that speck out your eye.
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SPEAKER_02: Type that in the pop up I think that's in Matthew.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's Matthew.
9:52
SPEAKER_02: You're trying to sound smart.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't really be knowing I'll be guessing.
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SPEAKER_02: No, it's in Matthew.
9:55
SPEAKER_02: You right.
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SPEAKER_02: I asked that earlier when you said that.
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SPEAKER_02: What you about to read, Johnny?
9:58
SPEAKER_01: Bro, I'm about to read, bro.
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SPEAKER_01: It kind of go along with what you were saying.
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SPEAKER_01: It says that um we hear, like it's basically saying, you don't hear help, you hear attack.
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SPEAKER_01: We hear you're not good at it.
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SPEAKER_01: We hear you're not good enough instead of how can you be better.
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SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm trying to say?
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SPEAKER_02: We so defensive.
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SPEAKER_02: We defensive sensitive.
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SPEAKER_02: Sensitive at his final.
10:19
SPEAKER_02: What Google Gaga.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel like I feel like men gotta worse than women.
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SPEAKER_02: I feel like men gotta worse than women and women when it comes to being sharpened.
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SPEAKER_02: When it comes to being sharpened, like Alright, let's do this real quick.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's go around the room.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's be honest with each other.
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SPEAKER_02: Be honest.
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SPEAKER_02: I want you to say something you feel like, and you can be personal.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: I want you to say something you feel like an iron shop and iron moment for me, I'm gonna do it for you, we'll do it for Wade, vice versa.
10:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna start it off.
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SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna be genuine, we're gonna be serious.
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SPEAKER_02: We're gonna be genuine, like on some no like some no big.
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SPEAKER_02: Real, real talk.
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SPEAKER_02: Like on some real talk.
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SPEAKER_02: Wade, we get in gym.
11:00
SPEAKER_04: Come on, man.
11:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how many chairs still.
11:08
SPEAKER_02: How many chair is still standing?
11:12
SPEAKER_02: After the sixth episode, leaning on an everlasting leg.
11:18
SPEAKER_01: I'm still standing.
11:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:21
SPEAKER_01: I got the one.
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SPEAKER_02: I got the one for real.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: I got the one.
11:25
SPEAKER_00: I go ahead.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: Corey, why you got a Michael Jordan shirt on?
11:28
SPEAKER_00: I thought you like LeBron.
11:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, see.
11:31
SPEAKER_02: Hey man, you know, this is for the screen.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: Y'all show for that.
11:35
SPEAKER_02: This is for the show.
11:35
SPEAKER_02: This is for the show.
11:36
SPEAKER_02: It's King James.
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SPEAKER_02: Hey, hey, LeBron to go.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: But not for real, though.
11:39
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna be for real, man.
11:41
SPEAKER_02: Let's be for real.
11:42
SPEAKER_02: Let's read let's go to the scripture for real.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: Let's just think on that real quick.
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SPEAKER_02: We'll think I'm on that, and then we'll get back to the screen.
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SPEAKER_02: Go to one of the scripts.
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SPEAKER_02: Read one on Wade.
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SPEAKER_00: Turn to your Bibles to James 4, 11 through 12.
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SPEAKER_00: Read.
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SPEAKER_00: Warns that criticizing or judging a brother.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: Hey, I ain't gonna lie to you.
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SPEAKER_02: I can't even understand what you say.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm sitting right here in the room with you.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, what did he say?
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SPEAKER_01: Judging screw judging.
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SPEAKER_01: See, look, Johnny can't even talk about criticizing a brother.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what you say.
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SPEAKER_02: You need to work on your your pastoring if that's what you're trying to do.
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SPEAKER_00: James 4, 11 through 12.
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SPEAKER_00: All right.
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SPEAKER_00: Warns that criticizing or judging a brother is equivalent to setting yourself up as a judge of God's law rather than a door of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, no, I won't talk about that scripture.
12:34
SPEAKER_02: Go to the next one.
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SPEAKER_00: Romans 14 and 10 commands believers not to judge or despise a brother, as everyone will eventually stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
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SPEAKER_02: He's definitely not reading any of the scriptures I was trying to read.
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SPEAKER_00: Matthew 7, 1 through 5.
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SPEAKER_00: Jesus commands, judge not so that you will not be judged.
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SPEAKER_00: He clarifies that a warning against hypocrisy, attempting to point out a speck in a brother's eye, while ignoring the log in your own.
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SPEAKER_00: Is this scripture similar to uh don't tell me?
13:08
SPEAKER_00: I ain't gonna lie to you.
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SPEAKER_02: That was that was the worst three scriptures you could have ever read.
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SPEAKER_02: Why would you ask?
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SPEAKER_02: No, I want you to go.
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SPEAKER_02: That was like a synopsis of Matthew.
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SPEAKER_02: Like that was like they was giving like a summary of what of what that Matthew scripture meant.
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SPEAKER_02: I wanted you to actually read the full like two scriptures.
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SPEAKER_02: It's like it's like two scriptures in Matthew.
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SPEAKER_02: It's right there though.
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SPEAKER_02: It's that Matthew 7 one.
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SPEAKER_02: But anyway, I'm gonna give I'm gonna give a brief, I know what it means, what it says.
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SPEAKER_02: It's basically saying, in that scripture, it say, it say, before you try to take the speck out your brother's eye, you need to take the one out your eye.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: And then it says, once you are able to do that, then you can go help somebody.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:44
SPEAKER_02: See what I'm saying?
13:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:46
SPEAKER_02: If I got an issue with sleeping around, you got an issue with sleeping around.
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SPEAKER_02: What it is saying is I don't have the right to tell you you need to stop doing what you're doing when I got that same speck in my eye.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
13:58
SPEAKER_02: But once I've once I'm I got to a place to where I can I've removed that speck out of my eye, and I done overcame that, now it's my duty to help.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: You see what I'm saying?
14:08
SPEAKER_02: Now I can speak on it.
14:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but now I can, now I can, now I can say, hey bro, I'm not trying to judge you in a way that I'm trying to condemn you to heaven and hell, but I do see that this is a flaw within calling yourself a believer or trying to follow Christ.
14:23
SPEAKER_02: You see what I'm saying?
14:24
SPEAKER_02: And I had to come to a place myself and accept that and take accountability for what I was doing.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I feel like I can help you in the same situation.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
14:31
SPEAKER_02: That's what that's what I was trying to get at with that.
14:33
SPEAKER_00: This is this is similar to the scripture, the blind leading the blind.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: In in a way.
14:37
SPEAKER_00: Alright, what do you say?
14:39
SPEAKER_00: You remember, just remember in the in the Bible it talks about the blind leading the blind because and that's what it's talking about.
14:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, when you don't want to be sharp.
14:46
SPEAKER_02: And eventually, yeah, eventually it's gonna be the blind leading the blind.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: Because don't nobody want no type of correction.
14:51
SPEAKER_02: You gotta, you gotta be able in in life, bro, you gotta be able to take, you gotta have tough skin, bro.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: You gotta have tough skin.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: You gotta have people, you gotta have a an ability to hear what somebody is saying and receive it in a way of they're actually trying to help you versus being attacked.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: And that's and that comes with discernment.
15:10
SPEAKER_02: You gotta ask God to be able to do that.
15:11
SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of people can't.
15:12
SPEAKER_01: But I think a lot of people can't receive that because one thing we talk about all the time, bro, pride.
15:16
SPEAKER_01: Pride gets in the way.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: Pride before the fall.
15:18
SPEAKER_01: Pride comes before the pride.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: Pride comes before the fall, bro.
15:21
SPEAKER_01: And then, you know, it's just like um if you can't if you can't be corrected because of your pride, you can't grow.
15:28
SPEAKER_01: How you gonna grow?
15:29
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
15:29
SPEAKER_01: You can't grow.
15:30
SPEAKER_01: Because you don't see it as an issue.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: You don't see it, T.
15:32
SPEAKER_02: You don't see it as an issue.
15:34
SPEAKER_01: So you think whatever I'm doing, and I've been in a situation with people, whatever I'm doing is justified because of how I feel about it.
15:41
SPEAKER_01: And nobody can't tell me nothing.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nah, nah.
15:43
SPEAKER_02: But you don't realize that.
15:43
SPEAKER_01: Whatever they say to you, or they hate you.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: You don't realize that your own attitude, your own pride is a hindrance to your growth.
15:49
SPEAKER_01: It's a hindrance.
15:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean it's a hindrance to where you need to be.
15:51
SPEAKER_01: It's blocking your blessing.
15:52
SPEAKER_01: Your next level.
15:53
SPEAKER_01: It's blocking your next level.
15:54
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so if anybody in this, anybody watching this pod, if you're feeling stuck, if you're feeling like you can't grow, you gotta check your pride.
16:01
SPEAKER_01: Because what somebody may be telling you may be the key to unlock you to your next level.
16:06
SPEAKER_01: But sometimes if you can't receive that, it's gonna keep you in a place of bondage, a place of uh being stuck, a place of not being able to think to the next level because you can't accept it.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
16:16
SPEAKER_01: Facts.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
16:17
SPEAKER_02: Type in, type in on Google, type this in, bro.
16:18
SPEAKER_02: This might be better.
16:20
SPEAKER_02: Helping your brothers in Christ overcome sin.
16:23
SPEAKER_02: That might be, it might pull up.
16:24
SPEAKER_02: It might that might pull up.
16:26
SPEAKER_02: But either way, bro, helping your brothers, helping your brothers in Christ overcome sin, scripture.
16:34
SPEAKER_02: That might that might pull it up.
16:36
SPEAKER_02: But all right, let's be real with each other.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: Let's get let's give each other some real deal, like iron sharpened iron moment.
16:42
SPEAKER_02: Who wanna go first?
16:45
SPEAKER_01: You came up with the idea?
16:47
SPEAKER_02: I came up with the idea.
16:48
SPEAKER_01: Tell me what you've been waiting to say.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Nah, for real though.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: We joke, we joke about we joke about working out and fitting and stuff like that.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: But I know I'm doing my challenge now and I ain't always been super, super strict on what I got going on nutrition-wise, but you know, this could be a credit to both of y'all, you know.
17:08
SPEAKER_02: Y'all both young right now, but y'all eventually gonna be 50-something, 60-something years old.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: What you put in your body weekly could play a major role in how you able to function day to day 15, 20, 30 years from now.
17:20
SPEAKER_02: Facts.
17:20
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
17:21
SPEAKER_02: So I would just be mindful if I was y'all starting as soon as possible.
17:26
SPEAKER_02: What y'all consume, what y'all consumption is, you know what I'm saying?
17:29
SPEAKER_02: What's your activity level?
17:30
SPEAKER_02: Wait, you know what I'm saying?
17:31
SPEAKER_02: I gotta give you at least a little hand clap because you was acting like you was trying to get a membership before the podcast.
17:38
SPEAKER_02: So, but you know, take that help serious, you know what I'm saying?
17:42
SPEAKER_02: Gotta take that help seriously because it's it's easy when you're in your 30s, 20s, you ain't got no problems going on, so you're not really thinking about it.
17:50
SPEAKER_02: But we hear stuff happen to people all the time.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: Facts, facts.
17:52
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
17:53
SPEAKER_02: I don't want that to happen to y'all boys.
17:54
SPEAKER_02: Facts.
17:55
SPEAKER_02: That's how you break it down, you know.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: Come on now.
17:57
SPEAKER_02: How can you when you when I present it when I present it like that, or somebody presents something to you like that, that's that's an iron sharpened iron moment.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because you say you say back in the day I used to have strokes, and I had to stop.
18:09
SPEAKER_00: That's when I start working out with you.
18:18
SPEAKER_01: Are you serious right now?
18:20
SPEAKER_01: I am dead serious.
18:21
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I'm gonna not laugh with you.
18:22
SPEAKER_00: But it was more than God brought you up of a Pythonic spirit.
18:33
SPEAKER_00: We're not it was a Pythonic spirit, let's keep going.
18:38
SPEAKER_02: It's in the Bible.
18:39
SPEAKER_02: It's in the Bible.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Put a Bible up.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Put a script up.
18:42
SPEAKER_02: Pythonic spirit.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: Hold on, what'd you what it what did it say?
18:51
SPEAKER_00: Which commands you to gently restore him while guarding your own heart.
18:55
SPEAKER_02: No, you're not even reading the script.
18:57
SPEAKER_00: You you told me to type helping your brother in Christ to see in the scripture.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna share my testimony.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: The apostle, apostle, Paul instructs, if another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently, humbly help that person back onto the right path.
19:23
SPEAKER_00: Read again.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: Read it again.
19:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay, if another believer.
19:28
SPEAKER_00: What time is it on the day?
19:30
SPEAKER_00: We got it, y'all.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: It's okay.
19:31
SPEAKER_00: It's 19 minutes.
19:32
SPEAKER_00: Go ahead.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: If another believer is overcome by some sin, you who are godly should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path.
19:44
SPEAKER_02: How am I, or how are you going to be helped back to the right path?
19:49
SPEAKER_02: Because Paul is with Paul, right?
19:51
SPEAKER_02: Paul is telling us as Christian believers, it's my duty, my obligation.
19:56
SPEAKER_02: Once I see my brother struggling, stumbling, you could be a drug addict, drunk, whatever the case may be, blowing all your money.
20:02
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
20:03
SPEAKER_02: I see that.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: What type of Christian am I, or what type of believer in Christ am I to turn a blind eye to that?
20:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
20:10
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
20:10
SPEAKER_02: I got this, this is my chance to iron sharpen iron, like it's saying proverb.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:14
SPEAKER_02: But it's obviously I need to do it in a respectful way.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: I can't just come to you, Johnny.
20:18
SPEAKER_02: Alright, keep on drinking.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: Something happens to you, that's on you.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: I've been on the told you 10.
20:23
SPEAKER_02: Some people can receive it in their light, but the majority cannot.
20:26
SPEAKER_02: That's why we can't.
20:27
SPEAKER_02: The majority of people can't take that type of fact, chastising.
20:29
SPEAKER_01: That's why we got to be prayerful too about us, us as believers, because I and I'm gonna speak to some of these believers out here, because y'all mouth be jazz, y'all's mouth be jazzy and nasty.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:37
SPEAKER_01: And I'm being real, you know, you say you're Christ-like, but then you you don't have a humble heart to be able to correct in love.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
20:44
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
20:45
SPEAKER_01: We we we correct in judgment instead of correcting in love.
20:47
SPEAKER_01: And I think a lot of times when we come to people, like you said, in a good way, when we first ourselves have gotten ourselves together and we've we've seeked God and we ask God how to how to convey, how to say, how to talk to people, then we can begin to help people without them getting offended.
21:02
SPEAKER_01: Now, some people won't get offended because that's who they are.
21:03
SPEAKER_01: They don't want to change.
21:04
SPEAKER_01: Because their heart ain't ready for that.
21:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they don't want to change.
21:06
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm trying to say?
21:06
SPEAKER_02: Maybe that might just be a seed you needed to plant right in that moment and revisit the conversation.
21:10
SPEAKER_02: You gotta get water.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: The Galas is sitting here telling us we need to do that.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: We don't need to, as brothers in Christ, we don't need to ignore the when we see the trap that the person walking into.
21:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Like you see the trap.
21:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: They so deep into what they got going on, they don't even see the trap no more.
21:29
SPEAKER_02: Bro.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: But you see the trap because either A, you might have been there before, or God might have given you the discernment to help them in that moment to help them avoid the trap.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: So you gotta ask God, okay, God, give me the words to say to them so they can receive what I'm trying to say.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: Because I know my flesh, I really want to just tell them by themselves.
21:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:47
SPEAKER_02: But you but you but you but you really don't.
21:49
SPEAKER_02: But you really don't, you don't know how to talk to people.
21:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
21:53
SPEAKER_02: You you you your attitude really terrible.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: Like that's what I want to say, but you can't say it in that way because it's that that's not that's that iron to iron, that's that's not Not gonna iron the iron talks about friction, but you want it to be cordial friction.
22:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we need to be able to have a dialogue about this.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: We don't need to be, I'm just talking down your throat and you feel like the the worst person in the world.
22:13
SPEAKER_01: You want to get people in your corner that that also recognizes where you are, you know what I'm saying?
22:17
SPEAKER_01: So they can they can come to your level.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: I've been here so I can show you.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
22:20
SPEAKER_01: But you gotta have people, people that are understanding.
22:23
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
22:24
SPEAKER_01: I feel like a lot of people, they they don't they don't get that often.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
22:28
SPEAKER_01: And so they they think, hey, you don't know you don't know my life, you don't know what I've been through.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: What you talking about?
22:33
SPEAKER_01: You can't help me.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
22:35
SPEAKER_02: People trying to hold on to their past as well.
22:37
SPEAKER_01: You think you better than me, bro?
22:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't have people tell me, bro, like, I thought I was better.
22:40
SPEAKER_01: Like, I I don't have people tell me I'm trying to help them, trying to minister to them, like, bro.
22:44
SPEAKER_01: You think you're better than me?
22:45
SPEAKER_01: You think you know my life?
22:46
SPEAKER_01: You don't know me?
22:47
SPEAKER_01: How you gonna tell me how to how to be, you know what I'm saying?
22:50
SPEAKER_01: And that that bro, that's a that's that's kind of like a spirit a little bit.
22:53
SPEAKER_01: Because it's like you you you're so ill willed mentally.
22:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that you're so ill willed mentally that you can't receive any godly wisdom.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: Fact.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
23:02
SPEAKER_01: We gotta be wise, bro.
23:04
SPEAKER_01: We gotta be wise in how we deliver.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: And then when people when people receive information from other people who are trying to help you, and I say in the camera, when you're receiving information from people trying to help you, you also gotta be using wisdom and be wise.
23:15
SPEAKER_01: Because everybody that's trying to help you ain't out to get you.
23:17
SPEAKER_01: Some people got a humble heart and they like, hey, I really want to help this brother.
23:21
SPEAKER_01: But this brother on a cliff and he's about to jump off.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: I need to catch him.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:24
SPEAKER_01: But if you don't let them help you, you're gonna die.
23:27
SPEAKER_02: Fall face plant.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: Facts.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, you said that, boy.
23:31
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna die.
23:32
SPEAKER_02: Hey, what was that James Scripture?
23:33
SPEAKER_02: It was a James Scripture, I think.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: But comes with bro, like the thing, one chat, one thing that Chat GPT said, it says, and I and I thought about it because I thought I was talking about circles and accountability.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: It says that some people have this issue because of lack of trust in relationship.
23:49
SPEAKER_01: Iron sharpens iron only works when there's mutual trust and love.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: If someone doesn't feel safe with you, they may question your motives.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
23:57
SPEAKER_01: Are you trying to help me or judge me?
23:59
SPEAKER_01: Correction without relationship often feels like criticism.
24:03
SPEAKER_02: Correction without relationship often.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: Often feels like criticism.
24:08
SPEAKER_02: That's real.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: So they don't trust you.
24:10
SPEAKER_01: And sometimes it's just that they don't trust you.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: So when you come in, I'm different though, bro.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: It's usually the people that you know, sometimes your mama's trying to tell you something, you're like, man, get away from me.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: But then your friends or you know, somebody else is gonna tell you it might hit different.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of I kind of can I kind of can go back and forth with Devin a little bit because Yeah, relationship is important though.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: Relationship having a relationship with somebody that you're trying to sharpen is important because they should be able to know your genuineness behind and your behind what you're saying and your motives.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
24:38
SPEAKER_02: They should.
24:39
SPEAKER_02: They should.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: If I'm saying something to you, they should and I've been rocking with you for a minute as your brother or as your sister, you should know that I'm saying what I'm saying out of love.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
24:49
SPEAKER_02: But the thing is, we be feeling so attacked that we be feeling like, how you gonna come for me?
24:53
SPEAKER_02: You got flaws too.
24:54
SPEAKER_02: I know I know I got flaws, but we ain't talking about me right now.
24:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
24:57
SPEAKER_02: Now, if you want to table this, table this conversation and tell me about myself, we can.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: But I'm saying what I'm saying because I do love you.
25:05
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
25:06
SPEAKER_02: If I if I somebody who truly do love you, gonna tell you about yourself.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: Somebody who truly loves you and want to see you succeed and want to see you overcome the obstacles that you that you that you're going through right now, they're gonna tell you like a T I E.
25:19
SPEAKER_02: Is what they say?
25:20
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna tell you, they're gonna give you the real.
25:22
SPEAKER_01: Bro, you can tell when people love you versus judging you.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: Because there's a different way you can come at somebody when you're doing iron sharpened iron.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:32
SPEAKER_01: You can talk to them as a brother in love.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:34
SPEAKER_01: But then when your when your quote unquote love words turn into judgment or accusations of things.
25:40
SPEAKER_01: And I've had it happen to me.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: That's why I'm speaking on it, because I've had situations happen to me where people were trying to say, well, I I I I didn't like this, or I want to do this, but then it wasn't love, it was a judgment type of accusing accusation kind of situation.
25:55
SPEAKER_01: So I'm thinking like as as if as if as in um as with people, bro, we have to be mindful when we go to them, like to speak to them in love and in a true Christ-like character.
26:06
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
26:07
SPEAKER_02: Because we we often time, man, we the only Bible some some people gonna read.
26:12
SPEAKER_02: Woo! You know what I'm saying?
26:14
SPEAKER_01: So But they get offended when they read the word.
26:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if we really do, if we really is trying to help somebody, our approach matters.
26:22
SPEAKER_02: Our tone matters.
26:23
SPEAKER_01: Tone matters, bro.
26:24
SPEAKER_02: Because what they say it ain't always what you say.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: What you say is how you say it.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
26:28
SPEAKER_02: So we might really be having the right message, but how did it come across?
26:34
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
26:35
SPEAKER_02: Right message, wrong method.
26:36
SPEAKER_02: Right message, wrong method.
26:38
SPEAKER_02: So, as the person that's on the opposite end of the iron, sharpening, being, if you're doing a sharpening, your approach is just as important as you trying to get them to see what you're trying to say.
26:52
SPEAKER_02: Hey, wait, give me some noise on there.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: I need you to go.
26:57
SPEAKER_01: You slacking.
26:58
SPEAKER_01: Wake up.
26:59
SPEAKER_02: Fat, what you doing?
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's sleep.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: As this iron sharpens this iron, if I'm trying to sharpen Johnny, and I really feel like my boy needs to hear this, my tone, my method, how it comes across, how it comes out, or my mouth, is just as important as him receiving what I'm trying to say and actually changing.
27:25
SPEAKER_02: So don't think it.
27:27
SPEAKER_02: Don't think that the only issue is they just need to receive what you're trying to say, and that be it.
27:34
SPEAKER_02: No, it's two sides of the coin.
27:36
SPEAKER_01: Two sides of the coin.
27:37
SPEAKER_02: As you are sharpening your partner, you are sharpening your you are getting sharpened within yourself because you need to be able to be mindful of what you're saying.
27:45
SPEAKER_01: Because what you're saying and how you're delivering it should show you something about yourself.
27:48
SPEAKER_01: Facts.
27:49
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
27:50
SPEAKER_01: This thing right here says, bro, and tone and delivery matters.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: Truth can be right, but delivered wrong.
27:57
SPEAKER_01: People are more open to correction when it's done in love, than with patience, done with understanding.
28:03
SPEAKER_01: Harsh correction can make people defensive, even if the message is true.
28:09
SPEAKER_02: And how many times we find ourselves arguing with folks over and over, or we might have seen our parents arguing, and our the whole time it's a screaming match.
28:16
SPEAKER_02: Ain't nobody really trying to calm down, ain't nobody really trying to step.
28:20
SPEAKER_02: Let me step in a room.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: Let's let's talk about this as like mature adults.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: It becomes a screaming match.
28:25
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
28:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to be I'm trying to be right at this point.
28:27
SPEAKER_02: It ain't about me really trying to sharpen you.
28:29
SPEAKER_02: I gotta tell you about yourself.
28:30
SPEAKER_01: Facts, bro.
28:32
SPEAKER_01: But that's a whole different podcast.
28:34
SPEAKER_01: But it shows your material I can't talk today.
28:37
SPEAKER_01: It shows your maturity in Christ, bro.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: It does show your maturity.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: I got a question.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: How do you, yes, sir?
28:45
SPEAKER_00: Like, one thing I don't like when people try to talk to me, try to give me advice and they breath.
28:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, like that means you're basically what you basically tell them.
28:59
SPEAKER_02: That role play real quick.
29:00
SPEAKER_02: What do you tell them?
29:01
SPEAKER_02: Basically, what you're trying to say is act like you're trying to give me some advice, wait.
29:11
SPEAKER_02: Well, first of all, I ain't got dreads.
29:13
SPEAKER_02: Second of all, second of all, I'm gonna be honest with you.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: What's up?
29:18
SPEAKER_02: Before you try to sharpen my iron, make sure you sharpen that breath.
29:22
SPEAKER_02: That's step one.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: Let's be honest.
29:30
SPEAKER_02: That's one of the hardest things to be honest with.
29:32
SPEAKER_02: Be honest.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Let's be honest about it.
29:35
SPEAKER_02: If you try to sharpen your brother about his about his holitosis.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Hey, ooh, hey.
29:40
SPEAKER_01: I ain't gonna say that no.
29:41
SPEAKER_01: Hey, bro.
29:42
SPEAKER_01: That is one of the hardest things.
29:44
SPEAKER_01: Well, this literally happened to me the other day.
29:45
SPEAKER_02: But number one, body older, but I ain't gonna say body older, because it because you can you can do a little play on words like, well, you ain't put on the order all day, did you?
29:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
29:52
SPEAKER_02: Like you could be joking.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: But let's talk about it, no, bro.
29:54
SPEAKER_01: Let's talk about it.
29:55
SPEAKER_01: We need to be we need to be in a place in life, bro, where we can just let them know.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: But then, bro, I don't have to tell people bought their arms and stained.
30:03
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
30:04
SPEAKER_02: That's a little easier.
30:05
SPEAKER_02: But say somebody breast ain't.
30:07
SPEAKER_02: I remember my wife told me that about me.
30:09
SPEAKER_02: It broke my heart.
30:13
SPEAKER_02: I'm scared to this day.
30:15
SPEAKER_02: But you mean it's out of your breastth?
30:17
SPEAKER_02: My breast ain't one day.
30:17
SPEAKER_02: I said, God, uh, like that.
30:21
SPEAKER_02: I was trying to be intimate.
30:22
SPEAKER_02: I imagine trying to be intimate.
30:25
SPEAKER_02: Imagine trying to be intimate and see you with the.
30:27
SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: It alone day today.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: But man, I thought we get a job about Johnny with 500 pounds.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: And you still power in the bag.
30:42
SPEAKER_01: Hey, that boy Wade still powered in the band.
30:45
SPEAKER_01: Wade stands for weight.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: Weight.
30:50
SPEAKER_02: But nah, that's one, bro.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: That's one of the hardest.
30:52
SPEAKER_02: But look though.
30:54
SPEAKER_02: I would want my person to tell me that though.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: Don't have me walk around here stink.
30:57
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:58
SPEAKER_02: Arms stink, brush stink.
31:00
SPEAKER_01: They should, though.
31:00
SPEAKER_02: Feet stink.
31:01
unknown: So this goes with.
31:02
SPEAKER_02: But stink.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: Like I need to tell me.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: So this goes with iron shopping irons because I see, I see in the scriptures a lot it says brotherly.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: But does this uh apply to marriage as well?
31:12
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean?
31:13
SPEAKER_00: Bro, yeah, yeah, you should be able to, yeah, you know, if you can't be real with nobody else.
31:17
SPEAKER_01: For people that may not be a man, bro.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: For the people that's married, for the people that's married.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: You can take that out and say wife, brother, yeah, that's anonymous.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Business partner, no matter what it is.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: If you if you marry with somebody and they can't take correction, bro, y'all got a deeper issue.
31:30
SPEAKER_01: Deep issue.
31:31
SPEAKER_01: Because that's if if there's nobody else in this world, you should be able to be more honest with your spouse.
31:36
SPEAKER_01: But you are you also have spouses who are holding things back for the sake of um for the sake of feelings.
31:42
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
31:43
SPEAKER_01: But no, you should be able to be real with them.
31:45
SPEAKER_01: They get on your nerves.
31:46
SPEAKER_01: Hey, what you doing get on my nerves.
31:48
SPEAKER_01: Hey, you probably want to watch that.
31:49
SPEAKER_01: A, your attitude bad today.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm trying to say?
31:52
SPEAKER_02: But I'm gonna let you, I'm gonna go ahead and be honest with you.
31:54
SPEAKER_02: If you say it like he just said it, it's over with.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: It's over with.
31:56
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
31:57
SPEAKER_02: You gotta you gotta figure out the right approach.
31:59
SPEAKER_02: What he's saying is, if the attitude is bad, you're gonna have to figure out how to say it.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:03
SPEAKER_02: You ain't gonna say most women or most men in a relationship, you ain't finna just come out and be able to say, your attitude nasty.
32:09
SPEAKER_02: You gotta go to needed something else.
32:10
SPEAKER_01: You gotta go to, and well, unless you have a, I know a couple right now.
32:13
SPEAKER_01: Some people can take it, though.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: Right.
32:14
SPEAKER_01: I know a couple right now you can call their names, but you know them.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: But they are they do that all the time.
32:19
SPEAKER_01: And then I real blunt with the joke.
32:22
SPEAKER_01: It's nothing.
32:23
SPEAKER_02: I like that though.
32:24
SPEAKER_02: I like that blunt.
32:24
SPEAKER_01: She'd be like, You need to fix your attitude.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Like, and he'll be like, okay.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: And he move on.
32:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
32:30
SPEAKER_02: And it's that's why I say it.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Some people can take that.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: But the majority of people, you're gonna have to be.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: Most people you gotta be like, You gotta be soft.
32:37
SPEAKER_01: Hey, hey, hey, babe, I love I love when you have a pleasant attitude.
32:39
SPEAKER_01: Or but stay looking at the biggest.
32:41
SPEAKER_02: Wait till you are in a place where it's just y'all two.
32:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you'll never shot in front of the public.
32:48
SPEAKER_02: No, don't do that.
32:49
SPEAKER_01: If you're doing it, you're wrong.
32:51
SPEAKER_01: So but um, bro, nah, that I I I'm with you.
32:55
SPEAKER_01: I'm with you, way.
32:56
SPEAKER_01: Like, we should be able to sharpen.
32:58
SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about when it comes to you got people who are in friendships, brotherhoods that want to be corrected.
33:04
SPEAKER_01: You got people who are business partners, nobody can't say nothing to them.
33:06
SPEAKER_01: You got people who are married, they can't say that to each other.
33:08
SPEAKER_01: You got people in the church who feel like they're leaders and they they over everybody, and you can't say nothing to them.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
33:14
SPEAKER_01: I call it out, bro, like it is, because they're the main ones, the ones in the church.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: We should be the main ones that are that understand that iron sharpened iron, that we be better, we are, we can become better because our brothers.
33:24
SPEAKER_01: But people in church are so cocky and arrogant a lot of times that they won't even allow nobody to say nothing to them because they feel like their way is the right way.
33:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm telling you, bro.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: No way back to people feeling they feeling immediately attacked.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: Immediately attacked.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: As soon as you're not gonna be able to do that people that you could be pleasant.
33:41
SPEAKER_02: Usher's ministry, sound ministry.
33:43
SPEAKER_02: You could be you could be the you could be the church lady with the who give candy out to all the people with the church hat on, the sweetest lady in the church.
33:49
SPEAKER_02: She can say something to you.
33:51
SPEAKER_02: What are you talking to me for?
33:52
SPEAKER_02: Who you think she is?
33:53
SPEAKER_02: Bruh.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
33:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, God dog, she can't even say nothing to you.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: Hey man, I went, I wouldn't, I wouldn't sing like that, bro.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm we we should do this.
34:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
34:03
SPEAKER_01: I want to be this way.
34:05
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
34:05
SPEAKER_01: You got people, Usher.
34:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I would hey, hold off on the fans.
34:08
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna we're gonna do the wow, we can fit the fans out.
34:10
SPEAKER_01: Man, stop being so offended, bro.
34:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm literally tired of people being offended, bro.
34:15
SPEAKER_01: Fix your feelings, fix your emotion.
34:18
SPEAKER_01: Fix your life, bro.
34:20
SPEAKER_02: Fix your feelings.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: Overly offended by just everything, bro.
34:24
SPEAKER_02: Everything aggravates you, everything getting on your nerves, bro.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: Somebody say something to you, you can't just never just go with the flow or just see their point of view and be like, you're right.
34:32
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you.
34:33
SPEAKER_01: Bro, can we not right?
34:34
SPEAKER_01: When do we ever hit that?
34:35
SPEAKER_01: I had to learn to be like that from, and I'm glad that I was over so many ministries and things like that.
34:40
SPEAKER_01: It taught me how to deal with people, bro.
34:42
SPEAKER_01: And it taught me how to like not know that my way ain't my way ain't the only way.
34:46
SPEAKER_01: There may be people who have other ideas or implement different things, and that may help help us all grow.
34:52
SPEAKER_01: But if I if I if like me, I was y'all know I was a worship leader for many years.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: I was over the music department at King David.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
34:58
SPEAKER_01: But there was times where I may miss something in music or teach something wrong, and you know, trist us and teaching, no, any one of them, they be they may they may be like, nah, I didn't hear that way.
35:07
SPEAKER_01: How would it have been if I was like, nah, this is what it is?
35:10
SPEAKER_01: No, we ain't doing that.
35:11
SPEAKER_01: Send it down, nope.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: Right.
35:12
SPEAKER_01: No, we doing that.
35:13
SPEAKER_01: Bruh, it helped me grow because I was able to take their opinion, and I'm like, yeah, I said, you know, and I was like, you know what?
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Y'all right.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: And I'll go back and I teach it the right way.
35:21
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
35:22
SPEAKER_02: And that's a good thing about being a leader.
35:24
SPEAKER_02: Not only does it teach you how to sharpen iron, it teaches you how to get your iron sharpened, too.
35:29
SPEAKER_02: Bro, what?
35:30
SPEAKER_02: You getting both.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: It's friction, it's constant friction.
35:32
SPEAKER_02: It gotta be friction.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: I need it.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: Let's talk about it for a minute.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: I need a leader that can chest, chest, um, chastise me, but also get criticism themselves.
35:41
SPEAKER_02: And we and we still be okay at the end of it.
35:43
SPEAKER_01: What's the old saying we say, you dish it, but you can't take it.
35:45
SPEAKER_02: Dish it, but you can't take it.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: Bro, that's crazy.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: Don't dish it if you can't take it.
35:48
SPEAKER_02: Don't dish it if you can't take it.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: Listen back.
35:50
SPEAKER_02: Don't even don't say nothing.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: But another thing people need to uh you need to you need to pay attention to, pay attention.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, if you on the outside, like if say if Wade and Johnny had a disagreement, right?
36:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: Wade, my boss.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: Wade, our boss.
36:06
SPEAKER_02: And you know what I'm saying?
36:07
SPEAKER_02: So Wade the boss.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: And I see and I see Johnny and Wade going back and forth, right?
36:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
36:12
SPEAKER_02: On the outside looking in for my people that don't have nothing to do with the argument, watch how your leader responds.
36:19
SPEAKER_01: Yup.
36:20
SPEAKER_02: Pay attention to their words, pay attention to how they, you know, react to what's being said to them.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: Because it's gonna teach you about, teach you a lot about the leader that you that you're gonna join it.
36:32
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
36:33
SPEAKER_02: And like you said, maturity in Christ is gonna come, you're gonna be able to see it.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna be able to hear it.
36:40
SPEAKER_02: If somebody is really mature in Christ or mature within themselves, you're gonna be able to recognize it right off the back.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: Because we know people buy the fruit that they're gonna be.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna display the fruit.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: I was just about to say that.
36:50
SPEAKER_01: You said thing it's like I'm thinking, bro.
36:52
SPEAKER_01: They're gonna display the fruits of the spirit.
36:54
SPEAKER_01: In that moment.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes we do mess up.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: Don't get it wrong.
36:58
SPEAKER_02: Everybody knows we're not perfect.
36:59
SPEAKER_02: We ain't perfect at all.
37:00
SPEAKER_02: It'd be situations where you be ready to pop off real quick about stuff because you don't take time to sit back and think.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: But you should be able to see some type of distinction between somebody who's mature in Christ and can handle being sharpened, versus somebody who is young in Christ or not even in the Christ at all, and they just feeling attacked every time, man.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: So stop being sensitive, bro.
37:20
SPEAKER_01: Man, we have to, we have to, we gotta stop being sensitive, man, because I think I think that emotionally, and not only emotionally, but spiritually, it hurts us.
37:29
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
37:30
SPEAKER_01: Because we're carrying.
37:31
SPEAKER_01: Think about bro, when you when you're not open to receive what somebody's saying, you literally carry the weight of what they said all day long.
37:38
SPEAKER_02: You do because you haven't on your shoulder.
37:40
SPEAKER_01: You haven't processed it because charge falling off.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: But you haven't processed what they said because the thing about mentally, emotionally, you walking around with like like heavyweight all day.
37:52
SPEAKER_01: Because they say something to you, they ain't mean no harm by it.
37:54
SPEAKER_01: They mean out of love, but you walking around with a burden, with a burden, or they say it this, they say it that because you're not willing to say, you know what, you're right.
38:00
SPEAKER_01: One time a guy taught uh uh a guy was uh prophesying to me, and he told me that I was a people pleaser, and I didn't want to hear it.
38:09
SPEAKER_01: And and I and and and and I always for forever, bro, I was like, man, he a false private, da da da.
38:15
SPEAKER_01: I ain't going, man.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: I was going ham.
38:16
SPEAKER_01: I was talking to talking with my homeboys about him, and I was like, and I didn't bash him, but well, I guess kind of false private is bashing.
38:21
SPEAKER_01: And I had to ask the Lord to forgive me about the things that I thought of this man.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: Sharpened you in that moment.
38:26
SPEAKER_01: He sharpened me, bro, because I I'm I when I thought about how I was always getting wanting validation from people.
38:34
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
38:35
SPEAKER_01: I I didn't make certain moves because I was worried about what people thought.
38:37
SPEAKER_04: Yep.
38:38
SPEAKER_01: I didn't, you know what I'm saying?
38:39
SPEAKER_01: I wanted people to be happy with my decision making.
38:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's sometimes sometimes that God even said, hey, do this.
38:44
SPEAKER_01: God talked to me now about some things I gotta do.
38:46
SPEAKER_01: And I'm worried about the people.
38:48
SPEAKER_01: And God is like, no, I'm in need of you.
38:50
SPEAKER_01: I got I have need of you.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: You need to do this.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: So let's be honest.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: And getting when somebody tells you about yourself, that hurt.
38:57
SPEAKER_01: It hurt, bro.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: That's why I got offended.
39:01
SPEAKER_01: I got offended because it was true.
39:02
SPEAKER_02: It was true.
39:03
SPEAKER_01: And I had to learn.
39:04
SPEAKER_01: I said, Johnny, wow.
39:05
SPEAKER_01: The truth hurt.
39:06
SPEAKER_01: I said, you are a people, people pleaser.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
39:08
SPEAKER_01: Because instead of pleasing God, you worrying about what these people got going on.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: One of the little kids at the gym I trained, I came in late one day, he all loud.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: But you're late.
39:19
SPEAKER_02: Immediately, you want to be like, you want to say something back.
39:23
SPEAKER_02: But the whole time, like, man, he's right.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: He's right.
39:25
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
39:26
SPEAKER_02: Even even if you feel like that person's approach is wrong, this is how much maturity, this is the type of level of maturity you want to get to.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
39:35
SPEAKER_02: Even if the person that's sharper than you, tone wrong, you should be able to hear the message over the tone.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: Hey.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Cory didn't.
39:53
SPEAKER_01: We understand it's your birthday.
39:54
SPEAKER_01: We understand you had five burgers today.
39:56
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: But you know what I'm saying?
39:58
SPEAKER_02: One more throw the bottle at you.
39:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I bet that was good.
40:00
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Jess Shine.
40:01
SPEAKER_01: For real, though.
40:02
SPEAKER_01: Hey, just shine.
40:03
SPEAKER_01: You see that we need some chicken, bro.
40:04
SPEAKER_01: We need some honey glaze.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: They shine.
40:05
SPEAKER_01: Just shine.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Just shines.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: Corey don't remember that.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: We told you about him.
40:10
SPEAKER_02: He's a caterer or something.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: Bro, fire.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: He got a restaurant.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: We gotta go.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: We gotta go.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Anderson?
40:14
SPEAKER_01: Nah, it's where's Greenville?
40:15
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
40:15
SPEAKER_01: We gotta go.
40:17
SPEAKER_01: We gotta go.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: Bro, but you should be able to hear the message over the top.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: You better hear the message over the top.
40:23
SPEAKER_01: That was good.
40:26
SPEAKER_02: We should have within ourselves.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: That was good.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: Even if it's somebody saying something to us out the way.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
40:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: They didn't, oh, they didn't pull me to the side and talk to me.
40:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, did they is what they said was true?
40:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
40:39
SPEAKER_02: And if the answer is yes, then why you can't have enough spiritual maturity within yourself to hear the message over the tone and correct it.
40:46
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:48
SPEAKER_01: Right.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: Come on, I ain't giving y'all.
40:49
SPEAKER_02: I ain't giving y'all no more gems.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: Right.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: That's it, man.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: Gotta pay payment for the rest.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: We don't, we don't, we don't say a lot of things about Iron Sharp and Iron Man.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: I just hope somebody takes something from this man because it's somebody that they're somebody that they're walking around right now heavy because you've been carrying weight from what people have said to you, and you're not even you're not even acceptable for what they're trying to say.
41:09
SPEAKER_01: But understand that people are literally trying to keep you from falling.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: People trying to keep you from death.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: People trying to keep you from messing up, and they're trying to help grow your life at the same time.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: They're trying to help take you to the next level.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: They're trying to help pour into you.
41:21
SPEAKER_01: A lot of times, like Corey, Corey tell me thing, man.
41:23
SPEAKER_01: Corey talks about stuff on the phone all the time.
41:25
SPEAKER_01: And he, you know, he'll tell me when I'm procrastinating.
41:27
SPEAKER_01: He'll tell me when I'm slack.
41:28
SPEAKER_01: And it'll be, he'll be like, man, you said this two years ago.
41:31
SPEAKER_01: And that's hard to hear.
41:32
SPEAKER_01: But I know that he's like, bro, whatever you say you was gonna do, you need to you need to stop procrastinating.
41:37
SPEAKER_01: He don't tell me before, hey Johnny, procrastinate.
41:39
SPEAKER_01: You need to get, you know, and I can't, we can't be so offended that we miss the whole point of growth.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, we're so offended that we miss the whole point of of going to our next level, getting to our next destiny because we're so worried about how somebody said it or what they said.
41:55
SPEAKER_01: But it might be true.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:57
SPEAKER_01: It might be true.
41:58
SPEAKER_02: Receive it.
41:59
SPEAKER_02: Embrace that.
42:00
SPEAKER_02: Receive it and level up.
42:01
SPEAKER_01: The truth shall set you free.
42:02
SPEAKER_02: Receive what they're saying and level up.
42:05
SPEAKER_01: Receive and level up.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
42:07
SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: Part of the process, man.
42:08
SPEAKER_02: What you about to say, Wade?
42:14
SPEAKER_01: Hey, Wade.
42:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, tell us one thing about if you knew then what you know now when it comes to Iron Sharp and Iron.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: Talk to us, Wade.
42:22
SPEAKER_01: It's your birthday, man.
42:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, Johnny, good job for bringing it up.
42:25
SPEAKER_02: Talk, talk to us.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: If I knew then what I knew now, you knew that then what I knew now.
42:29
SPEAKER_01: Iron Sharp is iron, Wade.
42:30
SPEAKER_01: Talk to us, man.
42:31
SPEAKER_01: You said you had a testimony to tear earlier.
42:32
SPEAKER_01: Let's hear it.
42:33
SPEAKER_00: What about my stroke?
42:36
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
42:37
SPEAKER_00: I'll give y'all.
42:38
SPEAKER_00: Y'all gonna laugh.
42:39
SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna laugh, but I didn't know that was testimony you're talking about.
42:41
SPEAKER_00: I thought you were talking about iron sharpened iron moment.
42:43
SPEAKER_01: Sharp and go ahead, we're not gonna laugh.
42:46
SPEAKER_00: We're not gonna laugh, I promise.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: But that's not no iron sharpened iron moment.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: Tell me your stroke?
42:50
SPEAKER_00: That was just me.
42:51
SPEAKER_00: I was dealing with uh relationship.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
42:55
SPEAKER_00: I knew it wasn't.
42:57
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
42:58
SPEAKER_00: Stress built up.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: And I said one day, uh inside of my body was tightened up and I couldn't move for about 30 seconds.
43:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
43:06
SPEAKER_00: I went to the doctor and the doctor said uh uh that you was had you stressed uh that you had a media.
43:14
SPEAKER_00: And he said basically, uh whatever stress is in your life, you need to get it out.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: That's when I said that uh and uh they keep it out because I ain't had no brought you back full circle, but let's talk about this.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: We can bring it in Iron Sharp as iron.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: Hey what?
43:33
SPEAKER_01: We can bring this back in to Iron Sharp as iron.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
43:35
SPEAKER_01: When you was going through, you said your keywords were just now you said I knew that relationship wasn't good for me.
43:41
SPEAKER_01: Did anybody along the way tell you that that wasn't good for you?
43:44
SPEAKER_00: My mother did.
43:45
SPEAKER_01: All right.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to moms.
43:47
SPEAKER_01: But how did so that's that that's what I'm trying to say.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: He knew he had somebody tell him it wasn't good enough for him, and I don't know how he received that, and I'm not I don't how did you receive it when she said that?
43:56
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, shout out to my mom, man.
43:57
SPEAKER_00: So basically, she told me like Jason.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Be careful.
44:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:02
SPEAKER_00: Because I see the signs.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: And that's one thing when you have a uh a mama that prays for you, a spiritual mother that can that can see stuff that you can't see.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: You listen.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: And they tell you but you but you don't listen.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't listen.
44:16
SPEAKER_00: Is that young?
44:18
SPEAKER_01: Bro, and he hear it hear it out.
44:20
SPEAKER_01: Shout out to his mom.
44:21
SPEAKER_01: And shout out to everybody who's out there sharpening somebody because he's rested in heaven.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: He didn't know that his actions were making him sick physically.
44:32
SPEAKER_01: The things he was mentally dealing with, it became physical in his body.
44:36
SPEAKER_01: And that's how serious it is when you're on your journey and you want to do what you want to do and you want to make these own decisions.
44:42
SPEAKER_01: You're going to have people along the way that say, hey, I don't do that.
44:45
SPEAKER_01: But sometimes we choose to still do what we want to do.
44:47
SPEAKER_01: And we have to understand that when you don't allow your yourself to be sharpened, bro, it has consequences.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: A lot of stuff we don't cause on ourselves.
44:55
SPEAKER_01: Bro, yeah.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
44:56
SPEAKER_02: That we should have just listened to that person.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: We should listen to him, but that's kind of boy's stressed out.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
45:01
SPEAKER_01: The boy's stressed out, the boy having strokes.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: Crazy.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: Because his mom was like, hey, chill.
45:05
SPEAKER_01: And he said, well, you know what?
45:07
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to keep on pushing.
45:08
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm trying to say?
45:09
SPEAKER_01: I learned the hard way.
45:10
SPEAKER_01: So, Way, if you knew that would you knew now, what would you say?
45:13
SPEAKER_01: Well, should I listen?
45:14
SPEAKER_01: Of course.
45:15
SPEAKER_00: You would have got out of that relationship faster.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
45:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
45:18
SPEAKER_00: Shout out to Wade.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: I'm pretty sure a lot of a lot of people have been through, you know, relationships like that that crippled you.
45:25
SPEAKER_00: And you didn't know how to uh move forward because you always thought you see the good in the person.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: Always seeing the good in a person ain't good.
45:33
SPEAKER_00: So you need to closely realize that you need to come out of that mess that you're in.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: If you it ain't good for you, come up out of that mess.
45:41
SPEAKER_00: Can't nothing good come from it.
45:43
SPEAKER_00: Nothing good come from it.
45:44
SPEAKER_01: Man, if I knew that I knew now, man, because I was one of them people, and and and I don't I don't need a lot of growth, a lot of self-growth over the years, man.
45:52
SPEAKER_01: But when I was younger, bro, I was one of them people that would get easily offended.
45:55
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
45:57
SPEAKER_01: I had to grow to a place where I am now where I can have my brother say something to me and I receive it.
46:02
SPEAKER_01: Even like I was telling y'all earlier, you know, when he said that, then I got offended.
46:05
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
46:06
SPEAKER_01: I was probably in my late 20s, maybe 28, 29, when I when the problem told me that, but I still I had to grow to a level of understanding that people, some people in my life are trying to really help me.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: And um, if I knew then what I knew now, bro, I would have been in a I would have been in a place to receive.
46:23
SPEAKER_01: I'd had an open heart to receive what people were saying to me.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: Because I believe that I went, I detour.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: I believe that sometimes when we're not receptive, it can detour the path.
46:36
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm trying to say?
46:37
SPEAKER_01: When we're not receptive, it can detour the path where we're gonna go.
46:41
SPEAKER_01: Now, because of who God is and his grace and mercy, we're gonna end up going where we're supposed to be.
46:45
SPEAKER_01: We're gonna make it to the destination, but I believe it takes a longer time for us to get there when we're not receptive.
46:50
SPEAKER_01: I believe that God places certain people in our lives who have good hearts to warn us.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: Because warning comes before destruction.
46:57
SPEAKER_01: A lot of times when we don't follow the path, when a lot of times when we don't um adhere to warning, we we get destructed.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: And I believe that those people who love us, they correct us in a way out of love to say, hey bro, hey, I see you going down this path.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: I see this isn't healthy for you.
47:13
SPEAKER_01: Please adhere to warning before you destruct.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: Facts.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: And it took them how long in the um Old Testament in the wilderness to get through the wilderness?
47:21
SPEAKER_02: 400 years.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: Boy, boy.
47:23
SPEAKER_02: 400 years.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: Some of them died.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: But it was only supposed to take what?
47:26
SPEAKER_02: Like 10 days or something short.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: Bro.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: Like 40 days.
47:29
SPEAKER_02: 40 days.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: But it took 400 years or something like that.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
47:32
SPEAKER_02: Because they was being stubborn.
47:33
SPEAKER_02: Yes, stubborn.
47:34
SPEAKER_02: Moses, Moses, Moses, see how many, how many days they was in the wilderness?
47:38
SPEAKER_02: It was, I think it was like 400 years.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: It was a long time.
47:40
SPEAKER_02: But it was in the wilderness.
47:41
SPEAKER_02: It was a long time, bro.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: It was generations after generations.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: People kept dying, bro.
47:45
SPEAKER_02: It was generations died due to stubbornness.
47:49
SPEAKER_02: Because people want to do their own thing.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: 80 years.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: 80 years.
47:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay, how many days was it supposed to take, though?
47:55
SPEAKER_02: How many days was it supposed to take to get to the uh promised land originally?
47:59
SPEAKER_02: How many days would it have took if they would have done what they were supposed to do?
48:03
SPEAKER_02: I think like but it's a long time.
48:07
SPEAKER_02: But regardless what the whole message is.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: But it's a long time.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: It's a long time, bro.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: They went in woods.
48:12
SPEAKER_01: They went in the wilderness for 40 years.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: They was in the wilderness for 40 years.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: 40 years.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: But it was only supposed to take it was supposed to be short though.
48:18
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't supposed to take 40 years.
48:21
SPEAKER_02: It was supposed to be something short.
48:22
SPEAKER_02: It was supposed to be a short distance.
48:24
SPEAKER_02: But it was due to their disobedience and nobody wanting to be sharpened.
48:29
SPEAKER_02: Everybody wanted to do their own thing.
48:31
SPEAKER_02: So what was supposed to take 40 months, what it was supposed to take four days, took four years.
48:38
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
48:38
SPEAKER_02: Or what was supposed to take four months took 40 years.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
48:42
SPEAKER_02: Mm-hmm.
48:43
SPEAKER_02: Like look at look how less that's how bad.
48:45
SPEAKER_02: That's how bad being stubborn can derail your life.
48:47
SPEAKER_01: The journey from Egypt to the Promised Land should have taken about 11 days.
48:52
SPEAKER_02: I said 10 days.
48:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 11 days.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: 11 days.
48:55
SPEAKER_02: What was supposed to be 11 days took 40 years due to disobedience and stubbornness, and can't nobody tell me nothing.
49:02
SPEAKER_02: If you go back and look at the story in the Old Testament, them people was rebellious.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: They wanted to go their own way.
49:07
SPEAKER_02: They didn't want to listen to Moses no more.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: They wanted to go back to slavery.
49:11
SPEAKER_02: They wanted to go back to eat.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: While we come all the way out here, we can't eat.
49:14
SPEAKER_02: We ain't even got no food to eat.
49:15
SPEAKER_02: Oh, we we gotta keep eating this type of food.
49:17
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
49:17
SPEAKER_02: All he had to do was keep walking, but you had lem days.
49:19
SPEAKER_02: You was finna be in the land God promised you flowing with milk and honey, flowing milk and happy prosperity, peace.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: And and it went and it was crazy, bro, because you know, a lot of them even died in the wilderness, bro.
49:32
SPEAKER_01: Lost their life.
49:33
SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm saying?
49:34
SPEAKER_02: Lost their life, dude.
49:35
SPEAKER_02: Lost their life, bro.
49:36
SPEAKER_02: For somebody to tell them something and like you say, adhere to it.
49:40
SPEAKER_02: Imagine Imagine losing your life over stubbornness, over profit.
49:45
SPEAKER_02: Imagine losing your freedom.
49:47
SPEAKER_02: Because can't nobody tell me nothing.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: Can't nobody tell me nothing.
49:52
SPEAKER_01: Man, that's all I got.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: I need to get my if I knew then what I know in that moment.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: You didn't give it, bro.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: If I knew then.
50:01
SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, I want to thank you guys for sharpening.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: If I knew then what I know now in terms of iron sharpening iron moment, um shoot, I don't I don't know if I can name something specific, specific, like detailed situation.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
50:19
SPEAKER_02: But I can just say, you know, I I have people all the time tell me I always feel like um I'm always right about stuff.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: And I can't, and I be feeling like, you know, my way is the best way to do things.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
50:31
SPEAKER_02: So it is, it is, it is, it is the times in my life where it's times in my life where you know I should have listened, or I should have took the advice of what somebody was trying to tell me.
50:44
SPEAKER_02: You said my mama's gonna love it.
50:45
SPEAKER_01: Hey, what's what time we at?
50:47
SPEAKER_02: We ain't clipping this.
50:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we at this clip of this mama's gonna love this mama.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, bro.
50:52
SPEAKER_01: Talk about it.
50:53
SPEAKER_02: Shout out my mama, man.
50:54
SPEAKER_02: It's been a million times my mama done trying to tell you before you think you know everything, think you're always right about something, man.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: But that's just that just come with growth.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: And I still, you know, struggle.
51:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm not always all the way there with that, you know, because I'm the type of person where I feel like when I get fixated on something, I just be I be feeling like, man, I just gotta tell you.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, you can't tell that boy he's wrong, boy.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm telling it to act.
51:15
SPEAKER_01: Well, you gotta get bolted in and tell Corey he wrong.
51:19
SPEAKER_01: Takes an act of Congress, boy.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: You gotta be on the Supreme Court.
51:22
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
51:23
SPEAKER_02: So just being able to understand, like Corey, but you ain't always right about stuff either, you know.
51:28
SPEAKER_01: So hey man, it's been a good episode, man.
51:33
SPEAKER_01: Once again, happy birthday to my boy Wade.
51:34
SPEAKER_01: Hey, man.
51:35
SPEAKER_01: Coming out here.
51:36
SPEAKER_02: I think it's episode six.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't know where episode it is.
51:39
SPEAKER_02: But either way, man.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: God fur.
51:41
SPEAKER_02: Stick to the code.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: Hey, man.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: If I knew then.
51:45
SPEAKER_01: What I know now.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: The podcast episode seven, man.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: Episode seven, man.
51:50
SPEAKER_02: Three more episodes we live.
51:51
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna go live on episode 10.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: Oh, hey, we got some good stuff coming up for y'all, man.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't even want to say it yet.
51:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm excited, man.
51:58
SPEAKER_02: We got some stuff, Brewing.
51:59
SPEAKER_02: We got some stuff cooking in the pot.
52:00
SPEAKER_01: We got some stuff cooking in the pot, bro.
52:01
SPEAKER_02: I do believe have our fingers crossed.
52:03
SPEAKER_02: And uh we already got one conf, we already got one special guest confirmation.
52:06
SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: And they said they want to get on, they want to come on the show.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
52:10
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna try to do like a part one, part two with them.
52:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, they have a business right here in Anderson.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm gonna say.
52:15
SPEAKER_02: It's a food, it's a restaurant business.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: And um we're gonna we're gonna plan to get them on the show real soon, man.
52:21
SPEAKER_02: I think it'll be a fire episode, so we're gonna get them on here.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna say it's a politician that we reached out to, too.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm gonna say.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: Yep, yep.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: That's good.
52:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we in work we in works with them too, talking to them.
52:32
SPEAKER_02: So y'all stay locked in with the podcast.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: We apologize for the two weeks we were off.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: But we back.
52:36
SPEAKER_02: But we back, man.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: We got how many subscribers on YouTube?
52:39
unknown: 52.
52:39
unknown: My friends uh unsubscribe because we had most.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: All right, we had 52.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: Friend, come back.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna have 53.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: We got 52.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: We got 52 subscribers.
52:47
SPEAKER_02: Let's go ahead and push the code.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: Who unsubscribe?
52:49
SPEAKER_02: My boy Nick.
52:50
SPEAKER_02: Nick, you fake Nick Miller.
52:51
SPEAKER_02: Nick.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: Nick, Nick, you fake as I'm gonna be.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: I'll take your phone and hit subscribe.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: We need a hundred.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: Hey, we need a hundred.
53:00
SPEAKER_02: Let's get let's shoot for let's shoot the shoot for a goal, y'all.
53:02
SPEAKER_02: A hundred subscribers by hundreds what is this July?
53:07
SPEAKER_02: Your birthday.
53:07
SPEAKER_02: My birthday.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: September first.
53:09
SPEAKER_02: 100 subscribers by September 1st, y'all.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: No, no, that's that's gonna let's go December.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: December.
53:15
unknown: We should aim for 100 subscribers by mid August August.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: But we got 50, we got 50 something.
53:21
SPEAKER_02: We got 50 more.
53:21
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you said mid-August.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I got you, I got you.
53:24
SPEAKER_02: So August what?
53:26
unknown: No, the beginning of August.
53:29
unknown: Let's just go for uh August 3rd.
53:31
unknown: We should have August 3rd.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: Hey, Corey, you gotta follow to make the do that yourself.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: Tell all your people to subscribe.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: You gotta get Eclipse up.
53:39
SPEAKER_02: We gotta put in the behind the scenes work, y'all.
53:40
SPEAKER_01: Everybody, everybody, everybody what?
53:42
SPEAKER_01: Corey say go outside, go outside and join, everybody.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: I say go out what go outside and join, everybody.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: Hey, go out, go outside and but but course hey, do send the value right challenge, everybody on the challenge.
53:58
SPEAKER_02: Save for me.
53:59
SPEAKER_02: And y'all have 75 seconds.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: We out, bro.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: Save me.
54:01
SPEAKER_01: Hey, we out, my man.
54:03
SPEAKER_01: Let's get it.
54:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm hungry.