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CJP 81: Brit Robinson (FL-4) · Coconut Justice

• Carlos: Hey, what's good? Britt Robinson comes from a military family that is now running for Congress in Florida's 4th District. She's a 5-1 rabble roser that chased after Alexander Vinman when she had questions about corporate Democrats. She believes that government should work for everyone, not just the entrenched politicians, corporations, and the ultra-wealthy. This is my conversation with Britt Robinson. Before we get into it, Remember to go to CoconutJustice dot com to get you some clothes that I think would look good on you. Let's go. Florida, when I tell you rabble rousers come in small packages, this is what I'm talking about. The last time I saw this young lady she was chasing after a senator somewhere on Instagram somewhere. Everyone pretty Robinson is here. Brit Robinson: Yeah, yeah. Hi, yes. yeah. This weekend, this past weekend was exciting. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: non-intentional, but yeah, I was at Leadership Blue, which is the Florida Democratic Party convention, and Carlos: Okay. Brit Robinson: Senate candidate, Democratic Senate candidate Alexander Vinman was there. And I'm a military spouse. and Saturday Carlos: Thank your husband for his service. Brit Robinson: I will, thank you. Yeah. And Saturday was a hard day because that was the day that we found out that two service members were killed in action. and there was one missing. and we were anticipating an a few more and we still are. but I wanted to ask him, yeah. Yeah. Carlos: Can I let me let me jump in real quick because I don't think that families of soldiers are given Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: enough credit for the situation that you've been put in. Yes, soldiers do. We do we do sign the paper and we do understand that our life are on the line to let you talk all the dumb shit that you want. That's Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: that's what we do. That's what we signed up for. But our loved ones that stay home and that are biting their nails trying to figure out when we're coming home and if we're coming home, you guys don't get nearly the amount of love and attention that you guys deserve. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's hard. I will like I have to say, my husband is in training right now. so he's not deploying. He will Navy. He's a pilot. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. we have we have people Carlos: Mm-hmm. Which branch? Navy? They can't all be perfect. Army all the way. Brit Robinson: from every branch. But yeah, he's a Navy pilot. he's he's already like a winged aviator. He was flying a different platform, but he's transitioning, so he's back in training. So he'll he'll be deployable. Yeah, yes, yes. He is he's learning how Carlos: Okay, so he's he's a little Tom Cruisey. Yeah. Brit Robinson: to fly the growler. So he's yes. and now he will be able he will be a jet pilot. Carlos: I had a boy. Brit Robinson: but yes, it's it's very hard as family members. And like right now it's my friends and family that are being sent, not my husband yet, but it will be at the beginning of next year. And It's yeah, it's really hard because, like you said, military service members sign up to defend this country, but at the same time, there's an expectation that our commander in chief will respect their service and not take unnecessary risks with people's lives, not get us involved in in foreign conflicts that we should never be in, and we shouldn't be supporting, you know. countries like Israel responsible for a genocide. So, you know, those basically those were the questions or the topics that I wanted to ask Minister Vinman. And I introduced myself as a military spouse. that he ran across the parking lot from me. I told him I would I would catch up and I did. but anyway. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Haven't you heard of bullying campaigns? Brit Robinson: Yeah. Me and my five one stature is such a threat. Anyway, Carlos: And I remember you were wearing high heels and you said, Don't make me run in these heels Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. And then I had to take him off because I was anyway, it's I think it's wrong that to run away like that. It like to for background for people who just to give a little more information about what happened that weekend was he was scheduled for interviews with with Carlos: Let's let's take let's take a step even further back. Who is Brit Robinson: Yeah. Go for it. Carlos: Alexander Vinman and why do we know his name? Brit Robinson: Yes. So Alexander Binman was a whistleblower in during Trump's first administration and lieutenant colonel. And he now after that, after the whistleblower complaint and all of the congressional hearings and everything, he kind of disappeared for a little bit and now he's back running as a Democratic candidate for Florida, to represent Florida in the US Senate. Carlos: And the whistleblower thing was the Russia, Russia, Russia thing. Yeah. Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. so now he's back. He is heavily funded. his war chest like that he's raised so far is I think over 14 million dollars. And yeah, it's just it's it's not what the people want. He's running a like we're trying to hold him accountable. not like as constituents. In in this sentence, I'm I'm talking about myself as a constituent. Myself Lots of other people, including other veterans, have tried to ask him the same questions I was trying to ask him of what would you do with this conflict in Iran? You know, are you going to be supportive? Like, are you going to pull back? What, what, where, where would you stand? And then also on the support of Israel, because he's been pretty vocal about his support of Israel. He has said that what's happening in Palestine is not a genocide. And This seems to be a common thread throughout the Democratic Party on the more establishment side, the corporate side. And that's what I, you know, I don't think that we should have corporate influence in politics the way that we do. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: And we shouldn't have the wealthiest people in our country picking our representatives. That's not democracy. so anyway, all of this is I think that you as a like anyone as a candidate, their campaign is their interview. And if they are not going to answer the questions in their interview, why do we expect and why should we trust them to make themselves, you know, available and to be held accountable when they're in office? And I don't like I just don't think that that's that there is not an equal there. there's a It's really angry. So, and then especially as a military spouse, I am particularly sensitive to deaths in our community. And I thought it was incredibly disrespectful to not even acknowledge me. except for when he got in his car to smile, to give me some Carlos: To give you a sassy little wave. Brit Robinson: fucking sassy bitch smile and wave at me as they drove away. I think that that's disrespectful. And now he's Carlos: I agree. Brit Robinson: in an article just today talking about how the left wing of the Democratic Party, like the DSA, that he's disappointed in us and saying that we're anti Semitic for criticizing his support of Israel. So that's not true because Carlos: Let me let me Brit Robinson: we can criticize another country without being anti Semitic. Carlos: Yeah, or how about this? How about this? Do you think that Trump's decisions with Iran or s Iran Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: are beneficial to the American public? You're criticizing him. That makes you anti American. Brit Robinson: No, of course not. Mm-hmm. Yeah. yeah, and that's what I get. Like I get that from Republicans. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: so you know, I the point of this country is or one of the major points is we have free speech and we're allowed to say things. And you know, as long as it isn't Carlos: Things out. Brit Robinson: yeah, as long as you're not act like harming someone, you can say whatever you want. And that's for our own Democratic Party to not be in line with those values is a crisis within our party. And it has to be addressed. So this is something like, yes, in that moment I was speaking to Alexander Vinman, but in general, I'm speaking to the greater Democratic Party. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: And for what happened after that, after like people can go see the two videos that I posted. About me having my interactions with Vin Min, this The fact that that right after that, the influencers who were standing next to me that that Vinman missed the interview with, they were called by the Florida Democratic Party and asked to take their videos down. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then two days later, or sorry, two days later. No, a day later, something like that, I get a call from one of the caucuses and telling me that they aren't happy with me criticizing Vinman in the way that I did and also at all, and that we should be supporting other Democratic candidates. No. Like we're supposed no. Carlos: Well, y yeah, but not that kind. We're t what the Democratic Party needs to understand is it's not Brit Robinson: and Carlos: just you. There's a lot of us that are tired of corporations telling us what to do and it's all dumb shit. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And people want people aren't supportive of the war in Iran. People aren't support Carlos: Correct. Brit Robinson: supportive of what's going on in Palestine. So this is Carlos: Or Ukraine for that matter. Brit Robinson: or Ukraine. Yes. And so all of these yes, yes. And Sudan, Carlos: Or Cuba or Venezuela or El Salvador. Brit Robinson: like we're like all of these conflicts we shouldn't be in. And Carlos: Right. Brit Robinson: the fact that we're we don't have health care. We don't have affordable housing. People can't afford their groceries or their gas. Carlos: Kulls Brit Robinson: or school, you know, public schools are closing left and right, hospitals Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: are closing, farms, like we've lost thousands of farms. it's like this doesn't make sense. Like I think that's un-American is Carlos: I agree. Brit Robinson: not having our country's priorities be on our needs and our rights. Like we have a right to health care, we have a right to to being fed in this country. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: And they're not that's not the priority of any party right now, it seems like, aside from like democratic socialism. Carlos: Yeah. Let me you know what I find frustrating and hilarious at the same time when we listen to people like what's his name? Secretary of State Marco Rubio when Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: he says we need to go into Cuba so we can clean things up and really show them what democracy is about. And I'm like, last time I checked, Flint, Michigan had fiery water. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: So what democracy are you spreading? Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. I mean Carlos: We have the but the majority of MAGAs at a s fifth or sixth grade reading level. What democracy are you spreading? We have Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Carlos: we have the west side of Chicago with a bunch of liquor stores, no grocery stores. What democracy are you spreading? Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's not it's not democracy. It's control and it's power. And the United States has a long history of I mean, imperialism, if we're being frank. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: the fact that we I mean we like we go into countries we shouldn't be in to mess with their governments, to Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: access resources, like natural resources or otherwise, and and weaponize people's like needs and suffering to benefit our country. That's that's not like supposed to be the values. And so it's very hypocritical. Mm-hmm. Carlos: That's late stage capitalism. Brit Robinson: Yes. And so if we're doing that all over the world and we're doing it here, and people are waking up to that. Like there's I think we're in a time of of such like awakening to the system and and this collective power or or you know no I I guess collective power like a collective power of bringing us all together and and Carlos: It's true, yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: they wouldn't be they as in like especially the Republicans right now wouldn't be trying to take away our power through voting or override us through Campaign finance and taking away our social safety nets. They wouldn't be doing any of that if we didn't have strength. But the only way that they're able to keep power is by cheating and lying and manipulation and trillions of dollars worth of propaganda. Carlos: Let's talk about the manipulation because it is so subtle. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: It is so subtle. I'm old. I grew up in the 70s. We used that when we went to a friend's house, we'd go to a friend's house and the kids would play and people would play, you know, spades and they would make dinner. And we were at that house and in in the community altogether. But then like TV and movies and music and all this stuff started happening. And then it was weird because through the times like we used to have to go to an arcade to play video games. Now we stay in our house. Sure, we can have Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yep. Carlos: the little microphone and chat with each other, but we're separate. So we're talking to a machine. So it's easy to disconnect from humanity in that way. We don't even Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Carlos: go to theaters anymore. We watch Netflix and Chill. Right? So we're not outside all the time. Brit Robinson: Yes, and Yeah. Carlos: So we're disconnected and now with social media, now I get to see Brit chasing someone down and be like, why is Brit chasing this dude down? And then you find out that, he's a whistleblower for this Russia, Russia, Russia thing, and now like the Democrats are shilling for him. Brit Robinson: Mm. Carlos: so now we're coming back and and that connection is is is reconnecting for the lack of a Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: better word. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Carlos: And now we're starting to watch out for each other. Brit Robinson: Yeah, I think so. I think people are sick of the division that's Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: in this country and and the hatred. or at least I I mean at least hopefully on the lift. but I also just think people are very desperate for their to be able to like provide for themselves and their families and to have safety and security in their lives. And the social safety nuts is what gives that. And when Right now, like I think what what is people are waking up more and more to is they're seeing the corporate control in their lives, like in every aspect. They're seeing it in their doctor's offices with, you know, insurance and you know, shortening doctors' visits, making it so that your, you know, authorizations for care aren't going through and your insurance is denying your health care, outside of your doctor's like suggestions. You know, it's it's that we're our groceries are being like we're having surveillance pricing for groceries, so that depending on who you are and where you are and what your background is, you might pay more for your groceries than your neighbor does. you know, and and just the whole part of it is is taking away access to our basic needs so that they can weaponize that against us. They can collect our data and sell it back to us again for a higher profit, just whittling away at any freedom that we have in our lives. Carlos: Did you see what Steven Miller said just a couple of days ago, where he said we Brit Robinson: What are you saying? Carlos: wanna get these people on this system and then that way like we can debank them and do all kinds of things? Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah, a lot of that's in Project 2025 or like similar to that. It's they want to make it okay. There's a sect of these like tech billionaires and then these like political religious freaks that they want to turn us like go back to like full on chattel slavery. antebellum time like they want people they don't like, they want disappeared or contained or like in work camps. They do not want us to have any control over our lives and society as a whole. Because at least in like in Stephen Miller's case, he wants like a hundred million people to be in the country. That's it. So that's a lot of fucking people to go missing. Or to be, you know, killed off by lack of healthcare and and food and housing, or put us in camps like they're doing with our black and brown community members all over the country. And it's disgusting. This is not what this is not where we should be. I'm very upset that our Democratic Party has not been a has not been the opposition party it needs to be. The fact that we do not have people out in front of the steps, like literally every single day, calling these people white supremacists, pointing out and educating Carlos: Real. Brit Robinson: people to what like the propaganda, the white supremacist popp propaganda that they that this administration puts out on like all of its agency social medias. You need to educate people on that shit because that's dog whistles. Like it's filled with it. That Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: is Like the fact that Hegseth wants to want eighty-eight million dollars or eighty-eight billion dollars more for the war, that's like H H hail high hail Hitler. So like what the fuck are we doing? Like, call this out. He Carlos: What the fuck are we doing? Brit Robinson: has white supremacist tattoos. Why are we acting like this is like not straightforward? These people hate anyone who is gay or brown or black or has any like disabilities. or what or is poor. Like they don't want us to be around at all. Carlos: What is it gonna take? What do you think? What do you think it's gonna take for because the the the folks that you're talking about are these Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: disillusioned not all of them, but the majority of them are educationally challenged. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: they can see they can see all the dumb stuff that's happening, but Because it's a white dude doing it, they think that that it's okay. Brit Robinson: Yep. Carlos: What needs to be done to wake that crew up? Brit Robinson: I think that there's realistically, there's probably a group of them that we won't ever be able to wake up because Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: people like there are just certain people that hate others. but I think that when people don't when people's basic needs aren't met, they are desperate and they, you know, we're left to fight over limited resources. And and our human nature wants to know why and who is the enemy. And so when they're being told, you know, okay, you can't afford X, Y, Z, and your life sucks, and these are the people that are the reason Like I can understand how they get to to A to Carlos: They believe that. Yeah. Brit Robinson: B. so part of this and like part of my whole platform and how I approach like fixing the a lot all the issues we have is addressing like Maslow's hierarchy of needs of like what I've been talking about, housing, education, food, you know, all medical, like clean water, clean air, like Carlos: Food, water, clean water. Brit Robinson: it's just it's all of these things that that give you safety. And once we have that, then we can start to have more conversations. Like people's people are at threshold, they're over threshold as far as what they can handle. And when a lot of these people don't have the maybe the educational background to be able to differentiate what information is true and not, and f realize how they're being manipulated, then like we have to We have to work on lowering that overall threshold because they don't have the skills to or they a l I feel like a lot of them don't necessarily have the skills to break that down. and wouldn't be able like once how do I how the way I think about it is like a Jenga tower. And so there's lots of open holes, right? Like that's life. And there's one piece that is holding them where they are. And if we pull that, then they don't have the skills to like build that back up. they so they are going to resist it with every inch of their being because their entire life, the way they perceive the world, the way they interact with other people, all of that depends on whatever that like one kernel is. And so if they start thinking, well, hmm, weird, the government maybe is like maybe Pete Heggseth is lying to me. Well, hmm, P saying the same thing as Trump. So maybe Trump's lying to me. And like, what does that mean? and they just can't, you know, it's it unravels very quickly. or it could. And I don't think people are ready for that. At least the people on that side. And but like I was saying, I think people, this like collective waking up to how much there's of corporate influence and In our politics and and now also with Israel, the fact that APAC is so involved in our politics that a majority of our representatives take money from APAC, people Carlos: Isn't that crazy? Brit Robinson: are realizing that like their representatives are not working for them. They're working for their donors. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: And so when we aren't when they go in to vote for things and we aren't seeing benefits in our everyday lives, like it's it's not often that we feel like the changes at the government level, like at the federal government level, are are affecting our everyday lives. Of cour like of course people don't, you know, feel like there's a need to be involved in the system or pay attention to it. Carlos: And isn't funny how this this group of people that when it comes to building up America, they say, no way, that's socialist. But then they'll vote for someone like Alexander Vinman, who is funded by all these corporations who and PACs who like to go and out and be a bully in the world. And then what Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: happens is our government is paying for all of those programs already. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Carlos: in Israel. So they would vote to give Israel all of the socialist policies that the president and all his dum-dums are telling them, we don't want to do the socialist thing. No, we're doing it. We're just doing it over there. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. And I mean we also like to be real, like we are doing it here, but it's just for military and their families. And we've done it for decades and it's worked out. And rich kids. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Carlos: Yeah. And rich kids. And rich kids. Let's not let's 'cause, you know, I love lighting up rich kids. Cause they get they tell you, no, we don't have money for school, we don't have it, but you go to the rich neighborhoods, they all got a ride to school, they all get tutors, they all get after school programs, they all get to go to Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep. Yep. Carlos: do the sports. Brit Robinson: Mm hmm. Yep. Carlos: You can't tell me this shit doesn't work. It works. Brit Robinson: No. Yep. It works. It works. And so the way I try and explain it to people who like aren't are scared of the idea or even just the word of socialism is is saying like we have that already. And it's with our military families. So we don't you don't need to be scared about it. We have like we have health care. We have free health care. We have guaranteed housing. We have UBI, universal basic income. We have food like like food income or you know food subsidies programs and Carlos: Allowances, yeah. Brit Robinson: things like that. So like we have all of this. We have free college. all of these things we already have and so it's it's and even we have government run grocery stores. They work great. So we have all of these. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Those PXs are dope. Brit Robinson: Yes. And we can expand these. Like it's not creating Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: a new system. It's not scary. These things already are here. And the government, like, is very good at at working them. well, I should granted, grain of salt with you know, income for pay for lower enlisted and and housing is kind of a shit show right now. but yeah, it's we can do this. Like this, you nobody should be scared about this. There's This isn't we're not gonna turn into like full communist state. It is just social programs and it's to make sure that that like you you have safety. Carlos: I want to address the folks that that say, well, you know, there's a lot of these programs that work in Norway, but that's just Brit Robinson: Mm. Carlos: because they have a smaller population size. it might Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: work in Israel, but that's because they have a smaller population size. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: yeah, we have a larger population, but like you were saying, the infrastructure's already there. We just have to fund it. And then you're like, well, where the where's the money coming Brit Robinson: We have to fund it. Mm-hmm. Carlos: from? Well, from what I understand, the Defense Department hasn't passed not one not one audit. From what I understand, Brit Robinson: Hm? Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we have to make the Carlos: there's a whole bunch of bombs that we already paid for that are flying through the air right now that could very easily have gone to math books and science books. Brit Robinson: Exactly. Exactly. The fact that we're paying, you know, a billion dollars or more a day for the war in Iran. And and yeah, like you said, that we that our government hasn't passed our military hasn't passed an audit. we spend there's there's never a question about how are we gonna pay for more bombs. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: we're in the same way that we're like how we get the questions of Well, how are you gonna pay for free school lunches and breakfasts? I don't give a shit, honestly. Carlos: Yeah. We don't we don't have a question about all these wonderful corporations that are so Brit Robinson: No. Carlos: into paying for a ballroom so they all chip in. Okay, bitch, you wanna be cute, go s open Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. And and with that. Carlos: a school then. Brit Robinson: Yes. And that's a good point. Is that we already pay a lot of these, like we pay benefits for these corporations. Like Walmart is one of the largest employers in the country. And they're also, like, I believe they're the largest employer of people on Snap on food assistance programs. So we are already fucking paying for it. So like Let's just make it so that it's something that happens ahead of time and not when people are struggling on the back end. We don't like we can front run this. It's cheaper to have these programs on the front end, like universal healthcare, than waiting for someone to be on their deathbed and trying to fix, you know, a decade or or more of health issues once they are, you know, in the system where they can receive, you know. state or federal health insurance benefits. It's that's so just that's my background is I I've always been a military dick dependent. my family's all military, my dad's a Marine. And so I've always had health insurance. I've never had to worry. Yes. Please Yes, my Carlos: I won't make fun of dad. I won't make fun of dad. Marines are Marines are a little crazy. I don't make fun of Marines. Brit Robinson: my dad's family and Marines. We had a bunch of them. Carlos: Shout out, Dad. Thank you for your service, Dad. Brit Robinson: Yes. yes. So I've I've always had that stability of I've never worried about going to the doctor and and I had I was able to go to college, a good college for free. And yeah. Carlos: Let's expand on that because I I don't think normal folks understand just how Brit Robinson: Mm. Carlos: ease of mind you have when you Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: wake up and you say, I'm good. I'm gonna go to school that's already paid for. I have health insurance that is already paid for. I have all Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: these things. Like when you're about to attack the day and all of your basic needs are met, how do you feel? Brit Robinson: I mean, I can tell you that I wouldn't be sitting here. I wouldn't be running for Congress if I didn't have the healthcare I do. Yeah, that's that's the that's the basis of it. Like I've I've had surgeries that have saved my life, and Carlos: Nice. Brit Robinson: that's because of military health insurance. So this is Carlos: Good. Thank you for sticking around. Brit Robinson: yes, trying. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: Yeah. And but yeah, this is what's hard about this or like the the way like my perspective is when my mom was going into h into when my mom sorry, when I was going into high school, my mom was sick. she couldn't afford health insurance. And so we it took a long time. Like she couldn't work, but and and we relied on food assistance programs. and then after two years we whittled away all of her assets and we lost our home. Like we got evicted. and I had to go move across the country to live with family and friends and like bounce around homes until I graduated high school. So I know what it's like to lose everything just because your family member doesn't have health insurance and how catastrophic it is to an entire family unit. when just one member doesn't have health insurance. That it doesn't matter if that I had health insurance and that I was fully covered and able to go to the doctors for all of the conditions I was developing through the stress of the situation. She was still like we still lost everything because she couldn't work and because she couldn't access the health care she needed. This like the dichotomy of both I think is part of why I make a really good candidate. and why I can be a really effective representative because I know what that gap is like. Like I've I've lived the best parts of the government and I've lived the worst parts. And not many people have that perspective. there's not a lot of people who can who can say that they Yeah, just that their family was absolutely decimated and the trauma that goes along with that. I mean, I still and then bounce back. And yes, and the Carlos: then bounce back. That bounce back is what's important. And that's that the the scaffolding that should be the government should be this is this is exactly where this the government is supposed to step in. And it's not doing it for you, but not but just having the scaffolding to be like, okay, you something happened, let's get you Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yes. Carlos: back up to running speed. Brit Robinson: Exactly. And that's what I I try and talk about that that in high school, like going through that time was incredibly hard. But I knew that I just had to make it two years and then I would go to college and I'd go to a good college and I wouldn't have debt. and then life would probably be better. And that's the hope that gets you through times that are as awful as those were. But most people who like most kids that go through situations like that don't, they don't bounce back. If people have had to go into foster care Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: or things like that, like a huge majority of them are homeless. A lot of them are queer. Like that I also went through that in high school at the same time, was realizing that I wasn't straight and being terrified that like I wouldn't be supported by my family. And that was just like another level on top of it. And so it's a I it's honestly like a miracle that I and I don't know, I take that back. It's not a miracle, it's the fucking social safety nuts. that's what it is. Like it's not a miracle, it is tangible. That is how that's like the whole fucking point is that this is possible and it's it's already happening. Carlos: Yeah. It doesn't need to be a miracle. It's it's we can make we can make it easy for people to bounce back and it doesn't have to feel like a miracle. It could just be feel like okay, well, I'm a I'm a US citizen. Brit Robinson: Exactly. And that was fifteen years ago. So like the fact that we've continued this the whole time is asinine. and it's cruel. It's cruel. And and it's it's part of why like why I'm so upset and I call out the Democratic Party, because if we're going to be the party of like honesty and integrity and of true, like positive values. then we can't be up like criticizing each other or like holding people back within our party for trying to hold each other accountable. Like what are we? If we don't if we aren't going to hold each other to the values that our party is supposedly about, then we're no better. Carlos: Right. For those folks that watch sports, one of my favorite people to watch was always Michael Jordan. Brit Robinson: Mm. Carlos: Not just because he was gifted and talented and all the things, but you watch him in order for your team to be to reach that level, sometimes Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: you gotta push him and you gotta check your people. Like, hey, why the fuck aren't you running after the ball? Why aren't you and you know what I mean? And there's always there's always someone checking someone on the NFL. A lot of times it's the quarterback trying to get into someone's face. Saying that's not the way you're supposed to run. So why is it in politics now we're not allowed to like check our teammates and being like, You can be better, you can do better. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. Because they're trying to preserve corporate control and please their donors. Which Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: is like that's why the UC progressive candidates, like progressive and or democratic socialist candidates across the country having this conversation and using our platforms to the fullest extent we can, as wide of an an audience as we can. To talk about these issues, that we want change, that we want our party to be focused on the working class and and everyday people's struggles. Like it's it's not complicated. It's we don't want Carlos: It's not supposed to be. Brit Robinson: we don't want to be surveilled like going down the street and walking like our dog or taking our kids to the park. We don't want to be surrounded by flop cameras and drones. And just and now we have Palantir in the government who's I mean, so it's so far involved into our government, it's we would need ten hours to talk about that. But the Carlos: We can chip that away in five seconds. You guys, Palantir wants to follow you. They want to surveil you. They're putting this shit in the cars now. Brit Robinson: Yeah, and they're doing predictive and they're doing predictive modeling. So a part of like a big issue that that's going on and they're starting to use it in the government is collecting all of our data, tracking new, like individuals, and then and then do using AI, using different algorithms to do predictive modeling to determine Whether or not you are going to be a threat to like whatever they have going on, andor the government as a whole, say you're protesting or you're organizing in your community, any of those things they see as a potential threat to Carlos: This is this is straight up minority report. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. This is we are, yes. We are yes. Carlos: well back to Tom Cruise. Shout out Mr. Robinson. Brit Robinson: Hey, I I have like a whole when I decided before I decided I was gonna run, I was actually supposed to be working for the VA. I was hired as an interior designer, a GS eleven interior designer for a number of facilities outside of Chicago. And yeah, and so I was super excited. Carlos: Cool. That's where I'm from. Brit Robinson: Okay, cool. yeah. So I was super excited to be able to, as a military spouse, it's really hard to have a stable career. so Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: getting having a job like getting hired by the VA and especially at that level with no federal experience was like a life changing position. But also like I was going to be able to do work that served my community and do something that was tangible for people who have for our veterans who have been. thrown to the side and shit on over and over. you know, and it's I anyway, it was something I was really excited to do. Then Trump took office and they rescinded my offer. Carlos: Let me I have to cause it's not often that I get to really glaze interior designers, but Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: here in Northern California, I could it like when I go to do all my VA stuff, if it's a big one, I have to go into San Francisco and the buildings out there Brit Robinson: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: look, you know, they look like military buildings, the long thin windows and very hospital like. But my clinic out here in Santa Rosa, it's very Brit Robinson: Mm hmm. Yep. Yep. Mm hmm. Carlos: welcoming and it's very comfortable and it's very Brit Robinson: Yep. Mm-hmm. Carlos: clean and pretty and all the things. So thank you to GS11s. Brit Robinson: Yes. It those decisions were probably higher up than I was by architects and such. But yes, it Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: is that is part of the that would would have been part of my job is Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: making it so that veterans are comfortable and feel dignity and respect in their health care because there's been good, as you should. That's supposed to be Carlos: Yeah. Feel a little proud going to this building. Yeah. Brit Robinson: the point. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: I mean, I know I've gone into a number of clinics where you feel like shit walking in. You don't feel like you matter because the building's falling apart. Everything Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: is like just a little dirty or like stained. And yes, yes. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Why does every floor look like the basement in this building? Brit Robinson: I went, I had to go do my like pre whatever. I had to go do like blood testing at one of the clinics and Yeah, it was I got lost in there because each of the buildings were start it was like building one, building one hundred and one and then but building like like one hundred and a or like it was Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: it was anyway, it's super confusing and like my job would have been to if it was like in a clinic like that, make it so that it was easier to navigate, feel better, you know, address all those things. Anyway. which God, we have so much to do. to support our veterans and we have Hmm yes. We need to Carlos: Yet again, they have unlimited amounts of money for the government of Israel and to throw bombs. But the people that let you the people that let Brit Robinson: Yes, but not actually take care. Mm-hmm. Carlos: you talk your shit, we don't have money for. Fuck you, Mike Johnson. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yep. It's yeah, the way that this country manipulates people into a poverty draft, of it's like we've been saying, like withholding resources of education and health care so that the o in a stable career, the only way that or one of the few ways that you can get that in this country is by joining the military now. And pushing, like taking advantage of people in hard times. And it's I mean, at it's kids, like it's very young adults or kids that Carlos: Yep. Brit Robinson: they are pushing into these programs and signing up for to give their life for this country is exploitation at its finest. And so to push people into that and then not uphold your end of the bargain or the deal on the back end Making sure that veterans at the fucking very least have quality health care in a timely manner. It's disgraceful. Carlos: Yeah. Mental health alone. Mental Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: health alone. They scramble our brains. What you guys don't understand. Normal folks don't understand. They scramble your brains. They break you all the way down to a cave person. You're down to your basic needs. Food, Brit Robinson: Yep. Yeah, they break you down. Mm-hmm. Carlos: water. And remember, we're only 17, 18, 19 years old. So there's things that are happening to our bodies at that time Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yep. Mm-hmm. Carlos: where it's just like a chemical explosion of all kinds of stuff happening. Brit Robinson: Yeah. I mean your prefrontal cortex isn't even fully developed and they're sending you to war. And and then Carlos: And then when you come home, they just pat you on the back and say, Thank you. You can buy Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: a house and go to school. Brit Robinson: Yep. But they aren't, you know. Carlos: Your brain is still scrambled though. Brit Robinson: Yeah. And and now like e with the war in Iran, yeah, we have like like we have a number of people dead, but there's also and also we have hundreds of people who have TBIs now, but They they try and like to to play that like that isn't as important, that those people's lives aren't impacted for the rest of their fucking lives, that there's a good chance that like there's a large portion of those people who are either going to drop dead or they're going to kill themselves because of the result of their brain injuries. or and just and have lifelong issues with fitting into society and having a stable, normal life with a family. Their lives lives matter just as much as the people who died. And we need to be taking care of those people just as well. Like we need to make sure that those people have support systems for the rest of their lives because they did their job. This country doesn't give a shit. Trump doesn't give a shit. Hegseth doesn't give a shit. They like Carlos: And it's a perfect example of how this country will set up agreements and and contracts and all the things, and then they go back on them. It doesn't matter. They do it to us, the veterans, Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: they do it to they did it to Cuba in the sixties, they did it to Iran, they did it to they just it's like Example after example of how We let business leaders take over the country and business leaders. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: are after their own win. Once they get the win, they don't really care. And they they Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: go back on agreements and contracts all the time. Brit Robinson: Yep. Yeah, because we're a means to an end. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: Especially service members are a means to an end for them. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: It's often now, I mean, I think you could argue it's it's always been like this, but a lot of our military conflicts have been because we're trying to uphold capitalism. And we're trying to uphold like the United Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Yeah. Or we're trying to exploit that land. One of the two. Brit Robinson: Yeah. People and land and resources and This administration is is like the finest example of that to the widest Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: extent. they don't yeah. Carlos: I think that I think the government has been like if we're gonna make the analogy, if this government is a body, the body the body has been close to dead and Trump and all his Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: friends are just the buzzards that are picking away, trying to trying to pick away at the bones. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I don't disagree with that. It's The way people are suffering in this country is incredibly upsetting. The fact that more and more people by the day are losing access to health care and and going hungry and losing their housing. Carlos: And in Florida specifically, you guys are banning books. So you're even limiting the exposure to books to learning? Brit Robinson: Yep. Yeah. They don't want and Carlos: That's crazy. Brit Robinson: 'cause they don't want an educated electorate. They don't want people who know their rights and know how to, you know, take advantage or, you know, utilize them to the fullest extent and Carlos: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brit Robinson: protect like and they don't want that. They want us like needy and dumb and reliant upon Carlos: And every time every Brit Robinson: Scraps. Carlos: yeah, and every time we throw a bomb, we're like, Yeah, we won. Throw another bomb. Yeah, we won. Without understanding that every bomb we throw, it is attached to a history as to why we shouldn't be throwing those bombs right now. Brit Robinson: Yeah. And in Iran, like like all of the oil crisis that we're in right now is that like people don't realize that that is going to affect us six months to a year and a half down the road. Because that's how long it takes for that cycle of like, you know, oil and being brought out of Iran, like all the trade cycle and how it affects every single aspect. of like the goods that we interact with, with our like our energy, literally like your food, your medicine, ev literally everything you interact with. Carlos: Your Ziploc bags and your d and your Tupperware. Like that's affecting all it your shirts, your Brit Robinson: Yes. Everything. It's everything. Carlos: polyester underwear, everything. Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. Everything. And and it's just going to get worse. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: And you know, you asked earlier about how do we how do people how do we like get to certain people who aren't Carlos: Wake them up. Yeah. Brit Robinson: woken up yet? I think for some of those people, it's going to be probably losing their home. It's going to be having a family member die. And Some of them will wake up and some of them still won't. But I'm really hoping that I don't know. It's people are going to be hurt in the meantime. Like this is going to take so fucking long and so much effort from so many people to even just try to return to where we were before this administration in terms of like our education and our social safety nets and and just the functionality of our government. all of these things and the trust, like the trust that The limited trust the United States had on a global scale, we may never get back. We most likely won't. So this is going like people are going to get hurt in the meantime. People are going to die. And the best we can do is scream at the top of our lungs of who is responsible for this, try to hold them accountable, and try to replace people in office so that we can deliver and force, like, especially with the with the progressives and and democratic socialists that are running for Congress. When we have enough people, then we're going to be able to have like a DSA caucus, hopefully. And with that, like combining that maybe with the power of the progressive caucus, be able to pressure the larger Democratic Party into like making change and like the change that people want that is widespread throughout the country, across the aisle of We don't want corporations buying our politicians. That we want healthcare. Like it's pretty simple. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: and that's and kicking out the people who are the Carlos: Bums. Brit Robinson: kicking out the people who like are just little bitches. Carlos: Looking at you, Hakeem Jeffries. Brit Robinson: Yeah. I mean, my god. I don't know if you saw then like all the different politicians, all the different reps that when Lindsey Graham died, like they were like, yeah, no, he was a I knew him and he was okay. Like we disagreed, but like he was a good guy. He was funny. Fuck off. What are you doing? Carlos: Yeah. He was a friend of mine. Yeah. We used to we used to go to all these high priced dinners together. Yeah, that's the fucking point. Brit Robinson: He literally just a few months ago was like, yeah, we're gonna make so much money off of this war. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: What are we doing? Carlos: What are we doing? Brit Robinson: Don't placate. What the f like literally, why? Just shut up. Just don't say anything. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. And how disrespectful how disrespectful. Brit Robinson: You're ceding ground to these like fucking awful fascist wannabe like white supremacist Nazis Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: and it's fucking frustrating. Carlos: Yeah. And the other thing that's frustrating is Specifically for me, being a veteran, b having to deal with all the bullshit about Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: being brown and American and not quite American Brit Robinson: Okay. Carlos: enough and all this stuff. And then we see the Hakeem Jeffries and we see the the Chuck Schumers and we see all these idiots up on stage saying, My main concern is Israel. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: And yet I'm not American enough for some of Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: these idiots. Brit Robinson: Yep. my the rep I'm running against, his name is Aaron Bean. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: And he is the founder and co-chair of the Doge Caucus. This is his third, he's currently in his second term. He's a freshman. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: And his number one donor is APAC. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Let's talk about it. Carlos: And let's talk about Doge. You want to know how dumb? You want to know how everyone is talking about how smart Elon Musk is. Elon Musk is a rich boy whose parents gave him a bunch Brit Robinson: The f fucking idiot. Carlos: of he's a dumbass. He's a dumbass. How are you, as Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. Mm-hmm. Cool. Carlos: the leader of Doge, you are anointed by the the the greatest president ever. You're anointed to come Brit Robinson: Ha ha ha. Carlos: and do your thing, and then and then at the end of the year or two of raising this mayhem and being a fucking dummy, you're gonna jump on ro Joe Rogan and spout a bunch of opinions. You could have brought one spreadsheet and just shown us where everything went wrong and they couldn't even do that. Brit Robinson: Nope, they were falsifying numbers from the start. Carlos: Yes. And then all this wonderful money that everyone thought he was saving. You wanna know why Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: he started talking shit on Twitter about Trump being on the Epstein list and all that stuff? Because his his welfare was going to be cut. He was getting Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: welfare from the government to flip fucking rockets. Brit Robinson: Well that's yep. Carlos: Instead of buying your dumb asses books and getting you guys health insurance, he was cutting all those programs so he can get all that money because he wants to go to Mars. There's nothing in Mars, you guys. There's nothing in Mars. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. So it's a program. Wait, it doesn't get all that money. Yes. Yes. No. Carlos: Everything we know and love is here. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And this is like one of the problems, one of the examples of how these tech billionaire oligarchs have infiltrated our government. And you know, these are these are all the men, because it's it's men. It's a bunch of like tech billionaire men who supported Donald Trump and sat behind him. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Spoiled rich boys. Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: Who sat behind him at his inauguration and fund funded his his election because they needed or they wanted more power and access to our government. They wanted Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: to have the the federal subsidies like Musk has for his rockets, which is Carlos: And they want all the freedom to go somewhere else and to hire engineers from somewhere else because they don't want to pay Americans. How unfair is that? And then I see I see some of these Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. Yes. Carlos: MAGA morons out there saying, Hey, uh-huh, look at all these supposedly brainiacs and all this stuff. Their their jobs are going overseas and all this stuff. Okay. So you're gonna you're gonna fuck me then. Okay, cool. Brit Robinson: Okay. Carlos: if I decided to turn around and take your job, it would be easy because you're a monkey with a wrench. I can do that and help your boss run his company and Brit Robinson: You can do that box when I open it. Carlos: run ads on on Instagram and Facebook. I can come and take your job and then I'm gonna bear ass you. On your on your head because you talk a lot of dumb shit and you don't think things all the way through. Brit Robinson: You talk about it like you don't think it goes all the way through. Yep. Carlos: And AKA not AKA but P S, they are building robots to do your job. I saw Brit Robinson: I like it. Mm-hmm. Yep. Carlos: a video where they built robots to sew clothing. They had a bunch of computers recording how the ladies were moving their hands and how they were putting the material into the the sewing machine. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. They were putting the material into the sewing machine. Yeah. And they put ring Carlos: And they built robots to do that. You don't think they can build a robot to Brit Robinson: up. Carlos: put up whatever whatever housing thing? Brit Robinson: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And your job. Carlos: They're coming for your job too, dumbass. Brit Robinson: Yeah, they're gonna come for everyone. And this is The fact that like these people need to be much more aware of how much these tech oligarchs are involved in our government and and the infl like the extent of the influence and power they have. These are men that most of them, at least like the core people like Zuckerberg and and Musk and Peter Thiel and Mark Andreessen, like all of these people were involved in PayPal. When PayPal Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: was being founded. They're called the PayPal Mafia. Those people were at the right place at the right time, made a fuck ton of money, and have profited like yes. Yes. They had a step up. No. These are a bunch of people who went to Carlos: After investing their parents' money, I want people to understand this. They're not self made, they're not none of that shit. They're rich boys whose parents bought them computer books. Brit Robinson: and they went to I like these are all Ivy League schools that these people come from. So liberal arts Ivy League schools. So when these fuckers are like, the blue-haired, nose-ringed liberal woman with Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: cats is like the evil thing of the country, they just don't want us to be credible because we got the same education they did. And our education is built around analyzing and and breaking down arguments and literature and like media to criticize like systems that are in place and how do we and what do we want our focus to be d on you know systems of oppression fixing systems of oppression and building like a better you know better however in what capacity like government or society Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: They don't want that because they don't want people to criticize them. And and so you now you see that with like the Palantir situation and flock cameras and and tracking us because they don't want you to use your voice and your power. They don't want you, you they want you to just be like a cog in the machine. And that's it with no voice, no needs. You are just there until you die. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Dog in the machine. Yep. Yep. They're gonna handle everything for you. If you want over the weekend, if you can hear my voice, over the weekend you need to watch Brit Robinson: Well that's Carlos: minority report and Brit Robinson: Yep. Carlos: WALL-E. Brit Robinson: Yes, yes. Carlos: and and Demolition Man with Sylvester Stallone. Watch Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: that too. That that's gonna tell you where these guys want to go. Brit Robinson: They I really think that these are a bunch of people who read too much sci-fi when they were in high school, didn't know how to talk to the Carlos: These are the high school dork. These are literally high school dork. Brit Robinson: this is like revenge of the fucking dorks because they they are they read too much sci-fi and and now are trying to enact their crazy fucking plans on the rest of us and Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: But like what Carlos: Hey, and you know whose phone is not gonna have the tracking shit on it? All those people you just got done saying whose name they Brit Robinson: They don't let their kids have iPads and like tech limit technology. So if they're Carlos: On purpose, yep. Brit Robinson: doing that, you should know that there's a reason why. But it's it's these men who they their entire lives they have been told your ideas are too big, you are thinking like your ideas are too wild and they're not realistic. And then they do it. And now Over and over and over over the last two decades or more, they are become built like these massive companies that run the world. And like between technology and science and social media, like they influence us way more than most people think. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: And and at least with the the social media, like They do they spend a fuck ton of money researching how they can control people's thoughts through things like propaganda and and weaponizing your emotions and your interactions online. Carlos: And this has been this has been going on for a long time, you guys. This has been going on when they're trying to figure out what shelf to put the cereal in. Brit Robinson: Yes. Carlos: They've been studying us for a very long time. They've been studying Brit Robinson: Yes. Carlos: us so long that you know why McDonald's uses red and yellow? Brit Robinson: No. Carlos: Because red and yellow, you can't, those are, those are very vibrant colors, so you can't necessarily Brit Robinson: Right. Carlos: feel comfortable or or you can't really relax. Cause they want you to come Brit Robinson: Yep. Carlos: in, eat, and get out. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: And how long has McDonald's been red and yellow? Longer than a lot of us have Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: been alive. Brit Robinson: Forever. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And Carlos: Yeah. They've been doing this for a long time, you guys. Brit Robinson: yes. And these and what it then now is like extra concerning is that they have these tech billionaires have their own branch of like Christian nationalism or like far Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: right Christian Christianity. And They believe some of them believe in accelerationism, which is bringing about the end of the world to have some sort of savior. They don't want us. Carlos: Yeah. They're trying to set the table for Jesus to come. Brit Robinson: Yes, which is why they like it's they have all these bunkers and all these things because they are anticipating global crisis. Palantir Peter Thiel wants he believes in having a global crisis. monarchy and that global monarchy being AI, like having one overlord over the entire planet. And he talks about the antichrist all the time, that being anyone or anything that gets in the way of creating that that global AI system that has mass surveillance. Carlos: Meanwhile Meanwhile to me Christ and God and the idea of God and everything is more tapped into nature and who we are as animals, right? So when you continue to put these goggles on and you're stepping away from nature and who we are, to me, that's the Antichrist. Brit Robinson: Yeah. So you can think what on you stand away from each other. We are moving past. Yeah. Carlos: To me, you're forcing us into a situation that is not naturally not that doesn't naturally come to us. You're forcing us to do this digital shit. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. We come from this we don't come from their uncles. Yeah. We come from the bottom. We don't come from Carlos: We come from the trees, we come from the jungles. We come from the ocean. We don't come from a website. Brit Robinson: No. No. But they want to, you know, divide us and and make us like could just create this baseline of irritation and anxiety and distress that Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: they can profit off of. there's a reason why like on it you I get it a lot more so on Facebook, but like my my content, depending on the platform, gets pushed out to different audiences based on how they interact with it. So like f on Facebook, my stuff immediately goes to MAGA because the algorithm knows that there is going to be they will not be able to hold back and like they're going to interact with it and they make money off of it. that's it it keeps people online and engaged. And that's what they're going for, which just exacerbates the societal issues that we have already with, you know, disagreements, for whatever reasons, endless reasons at this point. But yeah, it's This whole system is fucked and we need change s now. Like the we needed change decades ago, but Carlos: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brit Robinson: but not having or allowing corporate interests to be so involved in our politics and and getting to the point where we yes, Carlos: It hasn't been so blatant. Brit Robinson: it and it it hasn't until now. And and now that we have the world's first trillionaire. Like that should be a wake up call to anybody who doesn't who isn't already like aware of the system. If we have the world's first trillionaire, but your family Carlos: But record numbers of homelessness Brit Robinson: Yeah, record numbers of homelessness, especially amongst veterans, you know, more and more people are going to food banks and and you know, a record. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Congratulations, you're king. You're king of Brit Robinson: Yes, but that's that's kind of the point what I was getting at. Carlos: Desperation, you're king of desperation, you're king of homelessness, you're king of hunger, you're you're king Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. Carlos: of struggle and pain. Brit Robinson: Yes. And that's kind of what I was getting at, where these all these tech billionaires, the fact that they've gone their lives like being told they can't execute their vision, and now they are, and they're the richest men in the world with some of the most power in our country, they think they are literal gods. Like they talk about it. They Carlos: Yep. These are facts. Brit Robinson: spend they they go on retreats together. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: Peter Thiel like acts like a pastor to them. Yes, yes. Carlos: Talk about each other's sex lives and how to start a cult and all that dumb shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brit Robinson: And and Peter Teal like does sermons to them. And then Peter Thiel has his own like fucking advisor. and it's just but look, drowned rat looking guy. And these like these people are desperate for for I don't know, I it's They're desperate for power and I think that they their minds have been so corrupted, although I feel like they probably already were from the start. Otherwise I don't think you would have gone down the path that they did. But they're they don't give a shit about any of us at all. Carlos: You know what? I just finished watching this the the series on Netflix, Lord of the Flies. Brit Robinson: Lord the Fly. Mm, yeah. I read Carlos: These tech Brit Robinson: the book. I haven't watched the I haven't watched the show yet. Carlos: It's pretty good. I I'm the other way around. I haven't yet read the book, so I took advantage. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: but yeah, when I was watching that, I was like, This is the tech oligarchs here. We had a society that was you know, it was functioning. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: And then these knuckleheads came in and and they got all this money and so there's no leashes, there's Brit Robinson: Yeah. It's old old. Carlos: no leads, there's no control. Brit Robinson: No. Carlos: And I keep reminding people that I live just not that far from Silicon Valley. What you're seeing is what they want you to see. We don't see what's happening Brit Robinson: What one year? Yes. Yeah. Carlos: in the basements, we don't see what's happening in the you know, at home. Brit Robinson: No. No. They're f the Mark Zuckerberg, his one of his camp his campuses, like I think it was them one of the meta campuses, is designed by Walt Disney. To be like another happiest place on earth for the tech people. It's they are they curate every inch of their lives and of what we see. It is why it is so dangerous for them, for us to be speaking out and for us to be building coalitions and and sharing information. Like the the amount of information sharing that happened through COVID from like through TikTok, I think was like I would love to talk to somebody who like studies that shit because it I think it opened up the minds of so many people, especially those like on the younger generations. We have never like that amount of of connectedness and information sharing That we had during that time when people didn't have a way to connect in person, and that was like your only way of having like human interaction for a lot Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: of people. It was like unprecedented. And I know that I learned a lot. Like I did a lot of deconstruction during that time. And realizing, I mean, I always knew that I have privilege. Obviously, I'm white. I'm a woman. you know, I've grown up in relative stability and been able to go to college and and all of that. But it's seeing just the extent or learning more about the extent of my my privilege and realizing that I needed to be more involved. but also realizing the communities that I was a part of that I didn't realize. Like find like realizing that I'm disabled. that I have like I've I've always had medical conditions, but I never considered myself disabled. And but that was just because like I had never like I'd never learned about that. that if you have something that affect if you have like a medical condition or something that affects your daily life where you need to change your behavior or have something some sort of tool or or practice or skill that helps you you know go through life. then you are disabled. Having glasses is like that's a that's one of yeah, that's a disability. Mm-hmm. Carlos: It's a disability. Visual disability, yeah. Brit Robinson: Yeah, like that's a that's like an easy one to explain to people. having, you know, having something that affects your walking, even if it's not you know, you don't have a like a handicapped placard. That doesn't necessarily mean that you're not handicapped because our country isn't very good about acknowledging people's disabilities. And it's something that like the disability community has been working on, I mean, for like always, but through COVID, the numbers of disabled people has skyrocketed. And our system, our medical system and our society is not prop was not prepared and is still not prepared for that rapid influx of people who need care. And and it's one of the reasons why like our our medical system is already severely understaffed. And then Trump coming in and firing a lot of like our VA healthcare workers and and getting rid of like trying to get rid of the visa programs for nurses to come in from other countries. Like and the and and then affecting the loans. Carlos: And then re what was it? Rest not restructuring, but relabeling w what it what what schools are are accepted for funding and stuff? Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yes. Yes. Yep. Yes. Yep. And what professions qualify for those loans. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: And all of those things are designed, like all of the actions that this administration has taken is to limit our access to healthcare beyond what it already was, because they don't want you to live. This this administration is built upon a foundation of eugenics. That's what the Nazis did. That's what like this has gone on. Like we've seen this action, this type of action, this plan executed all over the world since like forever. But like this is it's with technology now and the development of AI, they're able to expand that and much more rapidly destroy our like infrastructure. They don't and it's just it's so the fact that these people are blatant about their hatred. for a the majority of the people in this country, i and then other people don't see that, like it shocks me on a daily basis. but it's why we need people standing up against like because I it's just I just go back to if we're calling out the white supremacist Nazis in our government and Trump Why are we not doing that with own our own party with problematic behavior? We cannot pick and choose. Either we have accountability Carlos: Exactly. Brit Robinson: for everyone or we don't. Carlos: Yeah. And if you don't want to be called Republican light. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Don't be a fucking Republican. Don't act like it. Carlos: Don't act like it. Don't be a So the that's for corporate Democrats. Stop eating shit, you fucking dummies. Either opposing parties if you if you are Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: acting the same way your opposing party is acting, then why do we need you in place? Brit Robinson: Yeah, we don't. Carlos: We don't. Brit Robinson: And that's why you see progressives and democratic socialists winning office all across the country and record turnout for primary elections, regardless of if like the candidate ends up winning the general. Like we are seeing record turnout for candidates, like for progressive leaning candidates, because people are fucking fed up. They want their government to do its fucking job and stop placating to fascists. Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. We can see. We can see what's happening, Brit Robinson: It's simple. Yeah, we're not Carlos: stupid. Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. Carlos: Let me ask you real quick, 'cause I was reading your website last night and it said that you went to school for Brit Robinson: Who went to school for? Carlos: some sort of art. What'd you go to school for? Brit Robinson: Yeah. Yeah. I went to school for textiles. Carlos: Okay. Brit Robinson: I focused on garment making and costuming. but I went to like I went to Maryland Institute College of Art. It's in Baltimore. And my education was like I think people think if you go to art school like you're just, you know, fucking twiddling your thumbs, painting and like that's Carlos: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brit Robinson: it. A large portion of our education is academic still. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: And we like I was talking about with like liberal arts educations, our entire or a large part of our academics is is analyzing what we see and what we interact with Carlos: Yeah. Yep. Brit Robinson: and what if we are if we as artists are creating something, then we need to know how people are like anticipate how are people going to interact with this. Is this the way I want people to interact with it? Do I need to change what I do on the front end? and and so it's a lot of it is human behavior and and looking at society and its movements, especially like especially like civil rights movements all across the country and around the world, and and using that knowledge to push forward like whatever whatever message or or action that we want to get across. So it's really I think it's really interesting because politics is very much the same. It's very much about how do you present yourself? What you only get a first impression once and like you even your clothing is political like clothing is political. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: How do you present yourself and how are you interpreted by the people around you? And then how does that change depending on what comes out of your mouth and how you act? Carlos: And let me I Brit Robinson: All of this is yeah, go ahead. Carlos: I was gonna add something that folks might not know about art school. I went to animation and film school. Brit Robinson: Yeah, cool. Carlos: And one of the things that that we did in school, and I'm sure you did too, is you work on your project and you put up your style board or whatever up on and then the class gets to light your ass up. Yeah. Brit Robinson: and once you did to it so you were whatever critique you. yeah. So yeah, you get really used to it. Carlos: It teaches you to accept and give construction or constructive criticism. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yep. And you have to defend yourself Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: and your in your beliefs and and the work that you've done. It's unlike any other program that like I I know of. I mean, I think similarly you could say like in a master's for your thesis is probably as similar as most people are aware of. But yeah, it's you you make your work or your project and you put that up and you have to sit there for however long the teacher has the professor has determined, sometimes that's hours where Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: you just get to sit there in silence and take it. And you, you just fucking Carlos: Getting lit up. Brit Robinson: it's just crazy. And and then you have to, you know, give your give your input or or have that that room discussion. and it's it's really interesting because usually our rooms are filled with people of various backgrounds. And so you're able to get perspectives that you never would usually in your everyday life because art school is typically like pretty varied. and so it's a I I think it's it's a critical part of like how I perceive the world and how I interact or how I move through the world is like wanting to go out of my way to seek people's like experiences and learn their backgrounds. I I think I think especially going through school, like through art school and and the things I went through with my mom, like when I was a kid and also growing up in LA, which was incredibly diverse. you just you gain a a an appreciation for for people's lives and their stories and And you you know you want to protect that and make sure that people feel feel comfortable and safe sharing their stories and and respected you know that that we're hearing them and and gracious that they're sharing a part of their life with you in that moment is like that's That's something that was really integral in a lot of my like my process for work. my studio practice and and it's something I bring through to my campaign now. Carlos: I love it. I wanna talk about Progressives and Democratic Socialists. There's a lot to unpack. Brit Robinson: That's a lot to Carlos: So I kind of I just want to focus on those two terms. a couple weeks ago, I was talking to Adam Dunnegan. He's running for Virginia 8. Amazing dude. Brit Robinson: Focused those two. I was not gonna end again. He's running for Virginia. Yep. I mean Carlos: and I he was talking in a way where I had Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: to ask him, Are you democratic socialists? He says, No, I'm progressive. Brit Robinson: perhaps Carlos: And now I have a democratic socialist and you continue Brit Robinson: the big sort of Carlos: to say progressive. So let's talk about that so we can so we can Brit Robinson: Okay. Carlos: Have clarification, but not just that, but more like giving people Brit Robinson: Just everything. Carlos: an understanding because anytime you say socialist, they think Brit Robinson: Okay. Carlos: the boogeyman's gonna come out from under the bed. So in your in your view, what's the difference in the what makes you one over the other? Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yes. So what do what's the what you want more than that? So I would say, and I'm sure people might have a slightly different interpretation, but this is mine, in my understanding, is progressive versus like in the in the scheme of the Democratic Party, when we say progressive, we're talking about pushing forward like social programs. but really it's it's in opposition to like the corporatists that we see that are taking, you know, money from PACs and and corporate like corporate entities or really large donors who are funneling money through like super PACs and potentially also Israel. Like these are people that are trying to shift the focus of our party and the the government onto everyday people on the working class. Where I see there's a difference is democratic socialists, and again, this is like there's we have caucuses within democratic socialists, so there is a a variety of how people interpret things. But for that it is a robust social safety net that we believe all of your basic needs, like you have a right to all of your basic needs. And that is the government's responsibility to make sure like you you have the right to them and that the government will protect your right to those those like safety nets and and your needs. It's there's there's definitely overlap. I think that there's also I'll say so I'll say at least for me, I definitely started this path. I was like let me reset. I joined my local DSA about a year and a half ago, I think. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: And that was around the same time that I had decided to run. I had come, I'd relocated. So I came from a place that we didn't have a local chapter. But I'd always been interested in democratic socialism. Carlos: Mm-hmm. Brit Robinson: And so I joined DSA like as a member. And but I thought of myself as a progressive Democrat, like exclusively. But or like when I first decided I was going to when I was going into DSA, I guess I I thought of myself as I probably thought of myself as a democratic socialist, but I don't think I really understood like where that line was. And it's pretty f like it's fuzzy Carlos: Sure. Yeah. Brit Robinson: for a lot of people. And and it's something I'm still learning a lot about is like like I said, there's different caucuses, like even within DSA and different like political theories that separate each of them. So like it's I'm always learning. and as it should be, I think Carlos: Yeah. Yeah. Brit Robinson: we all have a lot of deconstructing to do. And I think if you get to the point where you're like, I'm done deconstructing, like you might want to reevaluate. Yes, Carlos: Yeah, go back. Brit Robinson: there's always things that we can we can work on on for our our knowledge base and how we perceive the world. But it's Yeah, I think that there's a lot there there are progressives that based on where they are in the country, they might not be able to they might like de the idea of democratic socialism might not be acceptable to their district. or like their district isn't quite ready for that. I know a couple of people that are in that feel conflicted about that as well, where like personally they align with democratic socialism, but Their district may not be ready for it. but they still absolutely believe in the same values. I think it's we're in this time of transition where people are learning that there are other options beyond just the like typical Democratic Party. And so people are finding their ways. and I think I also think that there's the the knowledge base or like the difference between the people who are academics on like political policy and political theory versus the terms that the everyday person is aware of and and understands. Those are very different things. Carlos: Or even understands, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally. Brit Robinson: you see it definitely with like you like liberals and left it like people who may not understand like the the whole layout the field kind of tend to group together like leftists and liberals and democratic socialists, like anybody and progressives, like anybody left. they just kind of like, that's the far left, but it's absolutely not. There's like a very large range of us. and I'm just just one part of that. But I think at the end of the day, we need to push our entire government left. The fact that we've been pushed so far right, I would say is A large part of that is because the Democratic Party has not been dedicated to serving the working class and and has Carlos: One hundred percent. Yeah. Brit Robinson: allowed and has platformed moderates who like basically aren't holding the far like the left edge of our political system in place. And so our entire system is able to move to the right, and that's how we have Nazis. So We need to push it left because we are in a very dangerous place. The reason why I chose to run when I did is because I saw a gap, a very small window, and a very quickly closing window of opportunity to save the limited democracy we had, or we currently have, and and making sure that we don't have a Carlos: It's safe to say that we're it's safe to say that they've bastardized this country enough to we're we're not in a true democracy. We're not. We're we're in a form of oligarchy and tech oligarchy and all that shit. Brit Robinson: No, and and if they keep Yes. Yes, we're absolutely in form of oligarchy. And yeah, and we are God right on the the doorstep of fascism taking over the entire country. We cannot let that happen. So we need to have pushback as much as we can. We have, like I said this earlier, we have progressive candidates and democratic socialist candidates all over the country, from like local offices all the way to Senate. So it is critical that that people get involved in whatever way they can with any of the candidates that they feel connected to. we have like we're still in primary season. Our primary is in Florida is August 18th, but we have a couple other primaries before then. If you have the ability to volunteer in any capacity or make any sort of donation, please make a donation or sign up to volunteer with any of us. It is so, so important that we show that the people are fighting back and what we want in this country, we don't have another option. Like this is it. And and a lot of us are very, very worried about if we don't flip. enough seats, we're gonna be in a real shit show, like way worse than we already are. Carlos: Let me a let me ask you while you're on your campaign trail and you're knocking on doors and and putting up Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: yard signs and all the good things, and you go to someone and you say, Look, Brit Robinson: You just Carlos: I think we have the money and I think we have the ability to fix infrastructures to the point where we're gonna fix the roads and we have the money to fix the schools and we have the money Brit Robinson: The point where we have to fix the roads and we have the money to fit the tools and we have the money. Carlos: to what possibly run grocery stores so you can have affordable groceries. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: I'm trying to think of all the things that mom Donnie said that he wanted to do that he's knocking off the list. Right? Cleaning the subways, actually making you transportation, all the things. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Transportation. Public transportation. Carlos: And then just in case you get sick, we don't want you to go bankrupt. So we want to have a social safety net so where that happens. And we want you Brit Robinson: code program. Yeah. So we want social kids. So we're we want to work through the great kids and Carlos: To not have to work three jobs because we understand that you're raising kids and being home is a very important And then someone says, No, that's socialism. I Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: really don't like how do you how do you square that circle? Brit Robinson: Well Yeah, I mean at a certain point you just have to keep moving. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: we don't we're short on time and we have to focus on the people who want change. obviously like you know, we want to hear people's experiences and and hopefully help them move away from supporting a authoritarian government but and republicans who are voting and doing everything in their power to make your life miserable. This is like we want to be there for those people, but also we have so many more people who need help who are not that that far in. A third of our population of our voting population didn't vote. We don't have like there's plenty of people out there who are either too busy with their lives, to pay attention to politics or too overwhelmed and don't have the bandwidth to pay attention or in lack of trust. Yeah. Yeah. Because people Carlos: Or th or lack of trust. It doesn't r my vote doesn't matter. Brit Robinson: haven't because they vote and then they see, well, but nothing changes. And Carlos: Yeah, and you keep voting for bums. Brit Robinson: it's and basically we just keep voting for corporations and and shareholders and CEOs to make record profits. off of us while we lose like we're struggling to pay everything. you know, my like summary of my platform is that we need universal healthcare free universal health care, you know, fully fund education, public education, and that's like pre-K and college and union, like trade programs, support our unions, focus on the working class struggle and the and like our most vulnerable, protect our most vulnerable. Carlos: Yeah. Please, please. These motherfuckers Brit Robinson: Turn back to science and trust professionals. Carlos: sharing their opinions that don't make sense. And then they grab a goddamn Brit Robinson: No. Carlos: black magic marker and they redraw weather maps and stuff like that. Can we please can we please get back to science? You want to make America Brit Robinson: Science and trust and like the truth. Carlos: great again. Please invest in education so we don't this fire fifth and sixth grade level shit is killing me. It's Brit Robinson: Yes. Carlos: Killing me. Brit Robinson: Yes. Yeah. We need to a big part of this is education. We need to expand our like public media programs. We already like the the cuts that happened to to our public media like PR and and PBS, those need to be reinstated and we need to give them a fuck ton more money. Carlos: And why would we want to do that? Brit Robinson: well they don't they don't want people to be smart. We want people to be smart to have a in a Carlos: Right. Right. So the so the folks that don't Brit Robinson: educated electorate. Carlos: have extra money to get that Spotify membership, to get that Apple Music membership, to get the what's the Audible membership, all that stuff. That's why we're trying to have something like an NPR because it's Brit Robinson: Yep. Yeah, have access. Carlos: If you don't have the money for these memberships and all these goddamn subscriptions that are driving you crazy, at least there's NPR available to teach you something. That's why those things are there. Brit Robinson: Or some members and all concerns. Exactly. Exactly. Yep. And there's like the amount of money there was a group that did that did research and and all the calculations for how much money was put aside by like this at the start of our country. And we currently, well, I should say when it was when they were doing the calculations, this was before the cuts that this administration had done. But we were at like point if I'm remembering right, it was like point zero one percent that we are currently spending compared to what our founding fathers put aside for public education because they wanted an educated electorate. Carlos: Because back then we believed in education. We believed that the you guys, Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: normal folks, listen. In order for demo democracy to work, well actually let me say it like this. I've I've I've studied and smart people like Socrates and Plato, they didn't really like democracies because they understood we have a lot of dummies in this group. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: So the way to make democracy properly work the way that it's supposed to, we have to have an Brit Robinson: The way to make the work the way it's supposed to Carlos: a an educated electorate. That means we need you reading books, we need you reading history books, Brit Robinson: Yep. Carlos: we need you reading doing math, doing engineering things. We can't have you just sitting there with your thumb up your ass waiting for something. Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: That's that scaffolding that I keep referencing. The government should Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: be a scaffolding so so Brit Robinson: Yes. Carlos: you can leverage it to reach your best self and stop waiting for people to tell you what the fuck to do. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. And I think that that is probably one of the most American things we can do. Carlos: EBER. Brit Robinson: Is yeah. Yeah. Is taking care of our people and and giving you the ability to be your best self in this country. I mean it it just makes no sense. it well, it does make sense. It makes sense on like that people want to take advantage of of us. but we're we won't let them or we're done with letting that happen. and that's okay. We will like we we will keep getting attacked for being radical socialist communists, anarchists. And you know, it's mm-hmm. Carlos: Meanwhile, look at what they're signing up for. You're signing up to to have some dude whose brain is mush telling you what to do and how to do. Brit Robinson: Looking forward to Carlos: He's gonna redraw maps. let's go specifically to Brit Robinson: Specific. Carlos: Florida four, because I know we're we're we only got about ten, fifteen minutes left before you gotta go do Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: be successful out there in the world with your look at you with your health insurance and education and stuff. Yeah, girl. Brit Robinson: Yes. Carlos: So I'm looking the fourth district is way up north and Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: east. Brit Robinson: Yeah, Northeast Florida. So we have all of Nassau County, all of Clay County, and then West and North Duval, everything west of the St. John's River. This is our third election cycle after Florida had gerrymandered maps in twenty after the 2020 census. so it's its third cycle. Like I said earlier, our rep here is Aaron Bean, Republican, co-chair and founder of the Doge Caucus, and MAGA, Trump endorsed, and his number one donor is APAC. So we he's in it. Carlos: So he's just got the whole deck stacked. Brit Robinson: He's in it. and a fun fact is that he's actually an auctioneer by trade. Carlos: Fast talkin, okay. yeah, go figure. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. So fast talking, selling us off to the highest bidder is like right on par. Mm-hmm. Anyway, time for him to lose his seat. Carlos: It's time to go. How long has he been off in an in office? Brit Robinson: So this is he's currently on his second term. He was in the Florida House and Senate before that for like almost 20 years. And he was the right hand when he was in the Senate, he was like the right hand to Marco Rubio. So he is far more connected than he lets on. And it's I he I mean, he's not doing the basic Carlos: Well all his friends so far are all all these heavy hitters. He's endorsed by Trump. Brit Robinson: Yeah, exactly. Carlos: He hangs out with Marco Rubio. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. He has been speaker pro tempore in the house by like appointed by Mike Johnson when Mike Johnson can't be there. So he's like a fill-in. he is somebody that they know that they can trust to do whatever they want. When the big beautiful bill was going across, like going back and forth between the house and the Senate, it was sitting in the Senate, it was going to be sent back to the House and Aaron Bean, along with a number of other House reps, signed a letter saying, regardless of the bill that comes back from the Senate, they will sign it. They won't like they don't won't read it first, that regardless, they are going to sign it. Carlos: They're just gonna blindly sign it. Yeah. Brit Robinson: If someone is if a rep is not doing the basic tenants of their job, which is reading the fucking bills and listening Carlos: You know. Brit Robinson: to their constituents. And like he's he has phone town halls that are heavily, heavily like processed, and and he doesn't do anything in person. The only way that you can see him in person Carlos: Does he do mail in ballots? Brit Robinson: Does he do what? Carlos: Mail in ballots. Brit Robinson: I don't know. I mean he doesn't I he's this man is like he's not a good rep and he's not a good candidate. Carlos: Yeah. What are what are the some of Brit Robinson: He hasn't had to fight for this seat. Carlos: what are some of the important issues in Florida for that he's ignoring or that he's just not paying attention to? Brit Robinson: So I would say the biggest thing is is housing or well ho I should say housing and health care. I mean he's yeah mostly Carlos: What's the lay of the land out there? Is it is it mostly urban? Is it mostly rural? Brit Robinson: So we have a a diverse district. it ranges because we have like the urban core of Jacksonville, that's urban like where it's urban, city Carlos: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brit Robinson: center. And then if you the farther west you go, especially north and south, that is rural out there. the west, like West Nassau, West Clay are Carlos: Uh-huh. Brit Robinson: pretty rural. so we have a a huge range in in who we have in this county or in this district. And but people think that it's it's solidly red. It is not. It's gone from if you know the Cook political index may like has the values for where the district lies in terms of its lean, its political lean in relation to the average of the country. This district has gone from an R6, R plus six, to an R plus five in the last year. And the last two cycles, our Democratic candidate has not run an effective campaign. So there hasn't been signed opposition. and we're seeing that now is that they the Republicans are trying to push forward polls and and media. Da puts myself and one of our other opponents in the primary lower than the person that they have already beaten twice because they want to have they know that they can beat her. So they want to try and platform her because they know that they can beat her again. There's nothing that shows that that would change. My other opponent in the primary is a private equity lawyer who made money off of the housing prices in Jacksonville and is dedicated to corporate interests and big business. So but is also now cosplaying as a progressive. So don't trust people. Like please everybody do your due diligence on your representative or like on candidates and your representatives. Look at FEC filings. That's where all of our financial reports go. You can very easily see who all of our donors are and how much they've spent. that is very important for you to see is how many of them are like large donors, where what type of like sorry. It like gave me a countdown all of a sudden. the yeah, you just look at who your candidates are being funded by because that is going to be those are gonna be the people that fund them when they're in office. Those are the people that are gonna come knocking. Carlos: Do you know of any websites or whatever that has that? That has the people Brit Robinson: So the FEC, the Federal Elections Commission, that's FEC.gov. You can go on there and you can find you can look up any candidate. there's other sites that do like similar breakdowns, or do it with with like graphics that are much easier to interpret. But yes, you can very easily like all of this is public data. Ever you you as a voter have a right to this information. And if you have any questions about where the money is coming from, it is very important that you question the candidate and and put them like put them I don't not really on blast, but like maybe make that hold them accountable. It should. It should. Mm-hmm. Yep. Carlos: At least let it form your decision-making process. This is part of the education thing that I keep talking about. We need people to learn how to investigate and to research and to read Brit Robinson: Yes. Yeah, media. Carlos: and and to be critical. You can't just take Brit Robinson: Yes. Yeah. Carlos: people's word for it. Don't even take my word Brit Robinson: No. Carlos: for it. Brit Robinson: No. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And it's it's look at especially if they've been a candidate before. then look at their prior filings. Look at those. Do they are they incomplete? Have they been in compliance? Look at their voting record. Mm-hmm. Carlos: And look at their voting record to see if they're voting according to what because there's like Trump the one good thing about Trump is he's testing, he's load testing the government. Right? Brit Robinson: Yes. Yes. Carlos: And so we we're starting to see the faults that we might have. And hopefully we can Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Carlos: like start sewing these. these rips up because they're ripping the fabric of society living like this. So Brit Robinson: Yes. Yeah. Carlos: pay attention and do your research. Brit Robinson: Yeah. It's so important. especially now that we have, like I was saying, like corporate Democrats Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: who are or like APAC Democrats who are making themselves out to be progressives, you need to be very careful about that. Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: like one of the tactics that they use to try and bring down their like average donation amount is that they will like and try And to do fundraising to get like very low dollar, low dollar amounts like for Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: donations to offset their max donations or their very high donations and and and increase that number of donations in total because a lot of people will then see like they'll look at somebody's donation history and be like, well, they have thousands of donors and the average donation amount is this much, so they must be a grassroots candidate. And Carlos: Yeah. Brit Robinson: that is not That's not true anymore because you see that on like who are the people that finance their campaign at the very beginning? Like, where did they self fund with a large amount? Like the private equity lawyer put a hundred grand of his own money into the campaign. And then and then look, Carlos: It's wild that people are able to do that. Brit Robinson: yeah. And then and then also look at look at how they're spending it. Look at where they're spending it. Are they spending it like in an inefficient manner, because mine, like we did polling and against the private equity lawyer, he's outspending me 20 to 1, but it's for the same vote share. So he is throwing away money, whereas like we are being incredibly efficient with our money. And and when you look at that, it's I think the question needs to be if they're going to be that inefficient in their campaign with with public money, then what are they gonna do when they're in office? Like are they going to be as careful or are they just gonna throw twenty times as much money at the problem as they need to because it serves their interests or makes their friends money? Carlos: That's crazy. That's crazy that we're talking about the government and that's what you say. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Carlos: At the government we have to watch the people in the government because they hook up their friends instead of doing their job. Brit Robinson: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Carlos: Britt Robinson, I'm gonna let you go because I know you got an event tonight. But Brit Robinson: Thank you. Yes. Carlos: take the last few moments, explain to Floor to Four where they can find you, where they can follow up with Brit Robinson: Yes. Carlos: you, and how they can support you and all the good things if you don't mind. Brit Robinson: Yes. so again, my name is Britt Robinson running for Congress for Florida for all of Nassau, all of Clay, West and North Duval. If you want to help with the campaign, you can go to Brit for B R I T the number four congress dot com. On there you can find the the sign-up for volunteering. You can find the links to donate. If you're able to donate, that is like the best way that you can help right now because we're a month away from the primary and we need to be able to contact voters by phone banking, text banking, and mailers. So any money that you're able to help with is greatly appreciated, but also volunteering if you cannot or if you can do both. and I'm Brit for Congress on all social platforms. Carlos: That's the number four, right? Brit Robinson: Yes, number four. Brit for Carlos: Excellent. Brit Robinson: number four Congress. Carlos: Brit, it's such a wonderful moment to have to get to meet you. We we're in a couple of the same Brit Robinson: Yeah. Carlos: chatrooms and stuff like that. And and Brit Robinson: Yes. Yeah. Carlos: you guys Brit is she's fiery, she's not afraid. She's out here, she wants to make change and I love it. I love it. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. Brit Robinson: No. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Carlos: Thank you so much for everything Brit Robinson: Thank you for having me. Carlos: you do. And thank you, thank your entire family for all their service. And thank you again for trying to make this country a better place. I'm here for you whenever you need me. Yeah. Brit Robinson: Yeah, thank you for being involved too. Awesome. Carlos: And with that, everybody, we're out.