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Jeep Still Worth It With High Gas Prices · Jeep Talk Show

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Hey Jeepers, I'm Chris. I'm sitting here
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with Tony again this week and
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welcome to the Jeep Talk Show.
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We're going to talk about the greatness
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of Jeeps and how positive
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and a little positivity in the
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world that we, Tony, we haven't had a
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whole lot lately, but if
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you've got a Jeep or you want a
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Jeep, you live in a positive world.
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Absolutely. Just the ability to have a
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Jeep, especially with
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the cost or how unsuccessful Jeep has
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been being with their sales.
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And I think a lot of that has
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to do with gas prices. We were chatting a
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little bit about electric
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vehicles prior. You were
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actually looking at maybe getting an
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electric vehicle through a
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suggestion by somebody else,
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not for your personal vehicle, but
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getting an electric vehicle.
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And I think that the electric
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vehicles are still seen as, well, that's
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nice. I like my electric
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vehicle when I go play golf,
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but driving hundreds of miles. But I
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think a lot more people
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are buying electric vehicles
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because of the cost of gas and diesel.
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And I think it's going to
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be a short-term thing. Maybe
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I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, but I see the
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price of gasoline
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dropping vigorously pretty soon.
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Yes. Yes. But I mean, if people want
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their electric vehicles,
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I know someone personally
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who is a disciple of electric vehicles.
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He's a true believer.
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That's the religion. Yeah.
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It is. Yeah. He sees all in that. That is
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his religion. But he
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just sent me a Facebook
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Messenger post. I haven't talked to him
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in weeks or months. And he
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said, "Hey, finally took the
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plunge. I got a 2022 or 2023 four by
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EUs." And he's happy. He
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means like, "I can go 22 miles
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on EV charge only." And it just makes him
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happy. I mean, if he could,
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he had a, I think he had a
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Equinox or Chevy product that was all EV
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and now he's got a Jeep.
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That's awesome. And anyway,
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he's only get 22 miles downhill and EV
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only, but he's got it. He's
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happy and he's a believer. So
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that's, that's the great thing. I mean,
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you could say what you want about the
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four by E. I've known
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people have had good experience. I've
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known people that have not so good
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experience at the four by E,
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but someone like him, he's, he's in a
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Jeep, he's in a Wrangler and he's loving
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it. So that's, that's
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well, you remember Travis had one, he, he
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always, and Matt and he
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would, he, you would almost, those
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guys would almost take an offense if you
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said anything negative
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about the four by E. And that
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means a lot. That means they really liked
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it. And getting into what
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we've reported to hear about how
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Jeep made this vehicle and they did a
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very interesting way, I
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think, of creating a hybrid,
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hybrid vehicle. You know, how I feel
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about hybrids is that it's,
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it's two things to go wrong.
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Two different power trains.
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I still remember my dad telling me, don't
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get power windows.
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This is back in the 70s.
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Don't get power windows. Don't get power
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locks because that's the
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more stuff that can go wrong.
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Exactly.
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And, but nowadays it's, it's pretty well
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standard. I think that, I
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don't think they sell Jeeps
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with a manual roll down windows anymore.
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I think the last one was
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two or three years ago.
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Yeah, you may be correct. A good friend
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of mine has a JL, a two-door JL, and he
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ordered it this way.
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The only, the only option he got was the
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hardtop. It came with the radio. And I
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just say that because
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my 90 YJ didn't come with a radio. But he
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got a JL with just a
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hardtop. There are crank windows,
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no AC, no power locks. And I've been in
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that with him. And that's a
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little weird these days when
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there's no power lock, no power window.
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But yeah, I would imagine they've,
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they've gone away from that.
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Well, you got, you work in the industry.
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You know what a pain in the ass it is
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with, with inventory.
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So if you can minimize inventory, you're,
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you're making it easier for
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the, the dealers to sort of
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repairing things because they don't have
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to, they don't have to
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learn nothing about them.
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The mechanical locks is
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just to replace the module.
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Well, inventory and, and manufacture. I
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remember in the early 2000s, I was
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working as a supplier to
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Ford and Ford, the Mustang, whatever the
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Mustang, the base Mustang with a four
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cylinder, six cylinder,
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whatever it was, they said, all will get
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air conditioning
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because it was cheaper to make
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them all with air conditioning than have
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non-AC and AC cars. So
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there's economies of scale,
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economics at work into that as well. But
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yeah, these days you
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got to have power windows,
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power locks at least and AAC. My, my
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buddy ordered that GP finally admitted
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after a few years. He's
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like, I wish I would have got AC because
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it gets hot and hot
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sometimes, especially.
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And it could be 40 degrees outside, but
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just the sun coming in,
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it's a little, a little
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cooker from the solar radiation bouncing
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around inside. So getting
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back to the good news and the
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type stuff. There's, there's always
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things that you can ruminate on how
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horrible things are.
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I don't make enough money. I can't afford
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to buy hamburger meat. I
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can't have a steak anymore
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because it's just too expensive. Even if
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I, I buy it and to cook it
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myself, but you can still
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have a Jeep. If, if all those things are
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really important to you
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and you want to, you want to
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spend as little as money as possible on
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the energy needed to move
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your vehicle. Absolutely.
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You can buy an inexpensive vehicle. I
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mean, I remember Josh, he
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had the, the XJ and he would
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have to drive 40 miles to and 40 miles
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back from work and it was
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costing him a thousand dollars or
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something taking his modified XJ. I think
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he was around 800 a month. So the
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economics of that was
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a good example. I'll just get me a
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junker. Remember that one that got stolen
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every, every three weeks.
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It got stolen several times. Yeah. Like
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six or seven times one time
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while we were recording the
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show, he says, I'll be right back. He
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takes off. But anyway, that was that
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junker and the, it saved
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him so much money. And also too, just so
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if you, if you guys don't
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remember, he always got it back.
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The police would recover it. And he
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always got, he always had
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more inside the vehicle than when
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it left. So they were leaving stuff in
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there. Anyway, it was, it
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was hilarious. And it wasn't
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anything we set up. It was this life in,
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in Oregon. So anyway, the
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dirty Mike and the boys ever get
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a hold of it. I don't know who that is.
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The movie reference to
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the, the, the other guys with
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Mark Wahlberg and Will Ferrell. Never
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seen it. And any listeners
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dirty, dirty Mike and the boys
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who don't get into it, but that's a
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timely reference for
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Josh and his stolen vehicle.
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Oh, I love timely references. It doesn't
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matter. As long as I think it's funny,
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you're going to hear it from me. So, so
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there was a, that's a case of where Josh
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had to drive a long way to work. They
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weren't paying him what
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he's worth. My word is not his.
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Uh, uh, he was a, a CAD, a designer and
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they were, they were
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paying him next to nothing.
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And he was driving 40 miles, 80 miles
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round trip. And he had to buy a second
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vehicle. He didn't sell
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his Cherokee and just get a commuter
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vehicle. He kept the Cherokee
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and bought a commuter vehicle
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because he still wanted his Cherokee
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because he loved his Jeep.
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And I think that that's what a
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lot of people don't understand. They
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think they see the, the,
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the community, the Jeep wave,
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the ducking of Jeeps, these, these
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special things that Jeep people are
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special. And I say, I mean,
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special in a good way. They you're part
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of this community, part of
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the Jeep community is like,
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you can be part of the Jeep talk show
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community and it is a positive thing. It
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makes you feel good.
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When was the last time, uh, you, uh, you
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got out of your, uh, your
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blazer. I think they still make
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blazers. You got out of your Toyota and
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you're walking into the
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grocery store and you turn around
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and look at your, your vehicle and think,
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Oh, that's just a beautiful
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vehicle. I love that vehicle.
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You can, I think maybe it can happen, but
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it's more likely to
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happen on a Jeep and especially
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and I think that is the ultimate secret
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of the, the love for Jeeps, the
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modifications that you can
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make. Yes. Any modification. And, and you
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know, like you said, and
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you know, you get a nod or a
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Jeep waiver or just somebody's like, Hey,
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it gives you a kind of the
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bro what's up. And that's the
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only interaction you have with them, but
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it's, it feels good. You
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know, sometimes you're like, Hey,
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that's cool. And, uh, people just walking
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up to you and asking you
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questions or telling you nice
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Jeep or something and they're not Jeep
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people. Yeah. And that's
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why I think it goes back to,
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I think at some point in your life, you
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want to Jeep. Yes. It is
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something that I think most people
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go, I really would like to have a, have a
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Jeep. I would hate to have
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been 80, 90 years old and go,
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you know, I never got a Jeep. I should
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have got a Jeep. It may have been the
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worst decision in my
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life, but I wish I had experienced it to
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know. Yes. Agree. Agree. Um,
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so, uh, was your, your first
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Jeep was your JK, right? Or did, Oh no,
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you had a YJ before that,
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right? In high school, I had a YJ,
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and a 90 YJ, and, uh, had that for about
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four years and then, uh,
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got into a Ram charger and
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then had a 78 CJ for less than a year.
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And I remember that. I
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mean, do you remember, you know,
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old Cadillac, but anyway, through
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college, I was without a Jeep my second
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third year of college.
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And then I got the CJ seven 78 CJ seven,
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and it was a basket case. I
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got it in an auction. I got
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it back on the road and I'll never forget
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when I got it roadworthy to
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go get the tag for it at the,
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what we call a secretary of state, uh,
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DMV, same thing. And I got a
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Jeep wave and it had been a
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couple of years and that was just so
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cool. I just pulled out and I
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just got a Jeep wave and I'd
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almost forgotten about it because I
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hadn't had a Jeep for a
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couple of years. So that, that was
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cool. And then, uh, then the JK and now
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now the JT gladiator. So
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yeah, I'm on my, uh, fourth Jeep
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for myself and also have a couple of
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grand Cherokees, which are Jeeps too, uh,
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in the driveway at home
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now. So, um, and that's, that's those,
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you know, they're Jeeps,
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maybe Jeep in name only, but, uh,
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nonetheless, they're Jeeps and people,
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people like those too. I
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mean, the grand Cherokee is,
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uh, a good car. My wife drives one, my
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son drives the other one and
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it's a, it's quieter than the
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gladiator. It doesn't have much rain
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tires like mine does, but
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it's, it's, I would still prefer
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gun to my head to drive a grand Cherokee
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over, uh, over Chevy
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Blazer, like you mentioned.
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Right. So my wife, uh, my, uh, my
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mother-in-law has had
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some, some medical issues
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and it's not anything is, it's not
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severe. It's not dementia. They were
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concerned that it might
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be dementia cause she was having some
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cognitive issues, but it
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was, uh, more, uh, her, um,
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medication and, uh, strangely it was a, a
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urinary tract infection
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that was causing the cognitive
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issues, which I've never heard of before,
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but thank God it wasn't dementia. Anyway,
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the, uh, the, the family, the brothers,
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uh, the, the, the two
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sisters, one of them being my, uh,
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my wife have been, uh, keeping, uh,
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staying with her, uh, since my
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father-in-law died a couple of
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years ago, she's, she's there by herself
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at the house. So, um, my
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wife has been taken the
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gladiator and she'll stay, uh, three and
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four days, uh, at, um, and
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we're going to talk about
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the Wolfbox installation because it's
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kind of hard to install, uh,
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install on a gladiator when
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it's at the mother-in-law's house. But
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anyway, um, uh, so, uh, my
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wife loves, absolutely loves
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the gladiator, but she, she really loves
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her TJ. And I think, uh, I
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don't know if you remember or
12:05
not, I had changed the, uh, the U joints
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and her rear driveshaft and
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there was a slight vibration,
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uh, in it, she, it, it, it scared her.
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And I said, it's fine. I
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mean, good Lord, the XJ,
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you know, depending on what was going on,
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it was, I would drive it
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daily and it, it, it, it,
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it, it's just fine, but she would not
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drive the TJ. I finally
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found $130 driveshaft on, uh,
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on, uh, uh, Amazon, got it, looked at the
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reviews and stuff, got it,
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installed it smooth as butter,
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just like it was, uh, prior. Uh, and I
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figured that was a lot
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easier than trying to get another,
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uh, U joint, putting it in there and then
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try it, try it out and
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just have the same problem
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happening. Cause that, that slight
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vibration, you know, those driveshafts
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are about this long.
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Yeah. Um, they're tiny short anyway. So
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I've been working on
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getting the TJ roadworthy, uh,
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because my wife loves her TJ, her, her
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Wrangler, and she wants to
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drive it again. So I've been
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driving it because the gladiator is not
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here. Uh, and, uh, it's a
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lot of fun, but good Lord,
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the bucking, the, I mean, it's a Jeep
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man. It's a Jeep, but boy.
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And you have a gladiator,
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you have a 2020 gladiator. You know how
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smooth that thing is. Uh,
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did you notice much of a
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difference between how smooth it was
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between the, uh, uh, your,
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your, uh, JK and the, uh,
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the gladiator. Oh yeah. Yeah. Will base
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along. Absolutely.
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Will base along much, uh,
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much smoother than, uh, and I don't think
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a Jeep has to be smooth. I'm
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sure that CJ wasn't smooth.
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Um, but it's something that I really
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notice, uh, driving the TJ,
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but the TJ is a lot of fun to
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drive, especially parking. Uh, and you
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don't have to turn that wheel
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much. Yeah. You don't have to
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turn that steering wheel much where it's
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just, you know, like a snake.
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It's just, it's really cool.
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And, uh, and we're very lucky that we
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have multiple Jeeps
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here. So, I mean, I hate to,
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I hate to wind everybody up about you
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need to get a Jeep. You need to
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experience that in your life.
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You've wanted to, but having multiple
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Jeeps is even more fun.
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Absolutely. And then they happen
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to experience the two door. Like I said,
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I had a YJ obviously was a
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two door and a CJ and, uh,
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been in my buddies jail. That's a two
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door. And, uh, that's, you know, some
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folks say that's a real
14:28
Jeep, teach their own, but, uh, to have a
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two door Jeep and experience that and
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just experience that
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or even on the street, uh, like you said,
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parking or wherever you're
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going, it's, it's a unique
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experience in today's day and age,
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because there's not a lot of vehicles
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left that you can buy that
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are true two door, I'll call short
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wheelbase. Uh, true two door
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convertible, man. Yeah, exactly.
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Exactly. And then convertible. That's
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another thing. I mean,
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I've, I've talked to people
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and they have a Jeep or they want to Jeep
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and they'll never take
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it off road. They'll never
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shift in four wheel drive unless we get
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enough snow here and the great Lake
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States, uh, the upper
15:06
Midwest, but they just wanted it to have
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a convertible that they
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weren't worried about.
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Convertible, he can drive your round
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versus a Mustang or something that's
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sport car sports car.
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So that's the other thing about jeeps
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and, and, uh, and maybe someday that
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person that bought the
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Rubicon with everything on it, never took
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it off road. Somebody else
15:26
can buy a use and you can get
15:28
yourself a Rubicon for, for not the full
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market price of $60,000
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or whatever they are today.
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Yeah. And you don't have to take it off
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road. I think you're missing out.
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Actually. Yeah. I actually mentioned it
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today in an interview I did
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with, uh, with Ruby that, uh,
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having a Jeep is like having a superpower
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because it could
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absolutely stock. You can go places
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that nobody else can go. Uh, the
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civilians driving their little four
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wheelers like they think whether
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we'll refer to them as you have to have
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paved or nearly paved
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services to go places. I mean,
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unless you're doing a full send and
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you're not planning on
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driving it out, but you get to go,
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you get to see. And, uh, in many cases
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you get to go there with
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other people that have the like
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well, speaking of mindset, I, I'm sure
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that us Jeepers are on a
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list someplace with Homeland
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security or, uh, whatever, uh, with, with
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these agencies that keep
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an eye on the public, uh,
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because G people are also self
16:38
sufficient. It's not a hundred percent,
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but I think that generally
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a G people are more self sufficient. I
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mean, just having the,
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the courage to buy a vehicle
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that is radically different than
16:52
everybody else. What they buy is, is a
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warning sign for some
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governmental agencies. I believe because
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those are the potential
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troublemakers, the ones that
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aren't going along. And I like not being
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one person that goes
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along with, with the majority.
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Right. I agree. And I, I mean, you, you
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say that and it made me
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think of something I've,
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you know, maybe this isn't as positive,
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but people that say, I really
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like a Jeep or my daughter or
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my son really liked a Jeep, but they're,
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they're just, they, they flip
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over and I've said to people
17:22
like in the last 20 years, how many
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traffic, uh, accidents have you seen
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where it's been a Jeep on
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its lid? And that's, that's a, that's a
17:29
misnomer. That's, that's
17:30
silly. Um, they, they don't flip
17:33
over, but there is that apprehension to
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get a Jeep for a teenage kid. And maybe
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it's not appropriate
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for your teenage kid. I mean, you, you,
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everybody knows their kids differently,
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but, uh, you, you're
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right. I mean, people to have that
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courage and just say, you know, let's do
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it. And, uh, and, and
17:51
it's, it's good that, you know, I've met
17:53
some people, I mean, I'm
17:54
50 now, but I've met some
17:56
people and then they're 60s. This is my
17:58
first Jeep and they're 61
17:59
years old. And it's like,
18:00
that's great. They finally did it, you
18:02
know, towards the end of
18:03
their life, they finally did it.
18:04
And they've got their first Jeep and, and
18:06
they're, they're, they're
18:07
living it up and they, they like
18:09
it. So yeah, get it as soon as you can.
18:11
Were you at the, uh, Jeep talk show,
18:14
Texas event one year when
18:16
I think a guy from Houston with a YJ came
18:20
out to tour of two of our
18:22
events and one year there were
18:24
37 Jeepers all standing around his Jeep,
18:27
trying to, trying to fix it
18:29
so that it would run. That was
18:30
the first action. That was the first
18:31
year. Cause Josh was there as
18:33
well. And it was so funny. He
18:35
drove that thing three and a half hours,
18:38
no top to a hidden falls.
18:41
And then he, he flips it.
18:44
Yeah. I was, I was, I was there at the
18:47
first, the first one and I
18:48
flew in and then John picked me
18:51
up and you, you gave me a ride back to
18:52
the airport, but I was with Jimmy and
18:54
his, that's right. You and
18:55
Josh went back to the airport and spent
18:57
several hours chatting
18:59
while you're waiting for your
18:59
flights. Yes. Um, and I was riding with
19:03
Jimmy who has a JK on
19:06
coilovers and 38s and obviously
19:09
set up and I was riding with him and his
19:12
son and his wife and taking
19:13
pictures. And then I heard
19:15
Jimmy say, Oh, oh, oh, something. I'm
19:17
like, what's up? And guy had
19:18
flipped over almost all the way
19:20
over. I mean, flopped it in a little bit
19:22
more and there's gas leak in,
19:24
we're like, Oh, he was fine.
19:25
It worked out. Turn it back over. And,
19:27
and, and you guys got it
19:29
back up. Uh, I don't know if you
19:31
were involved in that, but you guys got
19:32
it back up. Uh, while I was
19:34
trying to find where it was,
19:36
I figured if nothing else, it's a great
19:37
photo opportunity. Uh, but
19:39
it was, it, it was back up
19:41
on its, on its feet, so to speak. And he
19:43
drove the thing, but back
19:45
home, the Houston three and a
19:46
half hours after the, after the event was
19:48
over. And I think he did
19:49
it in the same day. I don't
19:51
think he camped with us because we were
19:52
on the campfire that night.
19:53
I think he left the same day.
19:55
Yeah, I think so too. But that's an
19:58
example of an adventure
20:01
in a Jeep, an old Jeep,
20:03
because it was a YJ and it had problems.
20:07
A stock YJ. I mean, it
20:08
was, it was pretty stock.
20:10
That's right. It had its problems. He
20:13
worked through it and it
20:16
got him out there and it got
20:17
him home. Uh, and if it hadn't, it got,
20:20
we hadn't got it started and
20:21
running. He would have just
20:22
rode with somebody else and then dealt
20:26
with whatever needed to
20:27
be fixed. Actually, I think
20:28
that they actually did a run, uh, into
20:30
marble falls for, for a
20:32
part or something. Um, if,
20:34
if I remember right. So, uh, I mean,
20:36
that's another reason why
20:37
you don't go alone and you
20:39
need to go with somebody that has a
20:40
capable off road vehicle, preferably a G.
20:43
Yes. Yeah. But I mean, you can find, uh,
20:46
I've sort of gone it alone
20:47
sometimes and, um, you find
20:50
good folks along the way too. I mean, I
20:51
was my first and only time
20:53
to win rock. I just assumed
20:56
that after the great Smoky Mountain Jeep
20:58
invasion, there'd be a bunch
21:00
of Jeepers out there and, uh,
21:01
win rock is definitely someplace, uh, I
21:04
think anybody should
21:05
check out, um, remind me a bit
21:07
marble falls a little more foliage than
21:09
marble falls. Uh, but the,
21:11
the, the, what the park roads
21:14
were a challenge. I mean, I had to shift
21:15
in four wheel drive a
21:16
couple of times. But anyway,
21:18
being as I just, just found some folks
21:19
were like, Hey, you want to
21:20
ride with us? And they've been
21:21
there before they knew where the trails
21:23
were. Yeah. Just follow
21:24
me be in the middle. And,
21:25
and it was just great. And it's good
21:27
people. And it's, it's a
21:29
single serving friends. Uh,
21:30
I think it was Jerry Seinfeld sit down in
21:32
an airplane and you talk
21:34
somebody for 15 minutes,
21:35
45 minutes, whatever, a single serving
21:37
friend, you'll never talk
21:38
to him again, but you got to
21:39
know him. Hey, your name's bill. And it's
21:41
just really cool. Uh, so
21:43
that, that's the other, the
21:44
other neat thing. And yeah, you see some
21:46
folks that will kind of
21:47
look at you and what have you
21:48
done to your Jeep and, but anybody I've,
21:50
I've been a run into, they, you know,
21:52
they, they look at it.
21:53
If they're built bigger, they think they
21:55
know what they're doing
21:56
more. Cool. I'll, I'll just
21:57
follow you. And, uh, it's always been a
21:59
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22:35
Um, so this is a bit negative,
22:37
but, uh, I don't want to say, I don't
22:40
want people to think that,
22:41
uh, Jeepers are nonjudgmental.
22:44
They are, um, you're talking about, you
22:46
know, uh, meeting up with
22:48
other Jeepers along the way.
22:50
You're a single use friend analogy. If
22:54
you, if you don't have your Jeep, uh,
22:57
configured properly,
22:59
you will get judged by Jeepers. Um, 22
23:02
inch rims, uh, on an
23:05
off-road Jeep, for example. And, um,
23:08
that is an indication that, um, either
23:11
you're a renegade, you're a rebel,
23:14
and you know what's going on, but more
23:16
than likely you don't, you don't know,
23:20
uh, how the Jeep should
23:21
be configured. And, uh, people may shake
23:24
their heads. They may
23:26
judge you because of it. Uh,
23:28
you say you don't give a crap. That's
23:30
fine, but you can actually hurt your
23:32
ability to drive off
23:34
road depending on what you choose to put
23:36
on there. And 22 inch rims, or I think
23:40
stock is a 17 on the,
23:42
uh, the JL, the JT, uh, and, uh, I think
23:46
they're seven and a half by
23:47
17s. And, uh, I think 17 is a
23:50
lot, um, because the trick to going off
23:53
road is rubber. And if
23:57
it's more wheel than rubber,
24:00
it impedes your ability to drive off road
24:03
as, as well as you can with
24:06
more tire. I'm not going to
24:07
go into why, but I'm just letting you
24:09
know that if you're, if you're thinking
24:10
about getting a Jeep
24:11
and you want to, uh, you don't care about
24:14
going off road. Um, this is another
24:17
positive thing about
24:18
having a Jeep, uh, weather, earthquakes,
24:21
uh, hurricanes. Uh, I
24:23
mean, uh, the, the appropriate
24:25
thing to do is to not be outside or get
24:28
in from outside as quickly
24:30
as possible. But what if your
24:33
wife or children are in a situation where
24:36
you need to be able to get to them, a
24:38
Jeep is going to help
24:39
you get there again, superpowers. It
24:41
doesn't mean that you're going to be
24:42
okay. It doesn't mean that
24:44
you're going to survive it. But as a
24:46
parent or a child, like if your mother
24:49
was someplace and you
24:52
were her, um, the, the Jeep's going to
24:54
help you do that. And it's
24:56
going to make you feel really
24:57
good about going ahead and doing the Jeep
25:01
thing, uh, getting that
25:02
Jeep that you've always wanted,
25:04
uh, and, uh, having it available. And you
25:06
know, it doesn't have to
25:07
be your primary vehicle. Um,
25:10
so I don't think I've ever seen, you
25:12
know, it floods a lot
25:13
down here in Houston,
25:14
especially on the underpasses. They, they
25:17
dig the underpasses down
25:18
22, 30 feet. And then I then
25:21
seem to get surprised whenever the water
25:23
is 22 or 30 feet deep.
25:26
Right. Shocker. And people still
25:29
drive into them with their cars. Um, I
25:33
think that's an insurance
25:33
job, but I've seen a lot of flood
25:36
events, tropical and otherwise down here
25:38
in Houston on the news
25:40
and sometimes in person.
25:42
And I have yet to see a stock Wrangler or
25:47
a modified Wrangler let it out
25:52
stuck in the middle of something like
25:54
that. Well, I was like seeing the videos
25:56
of it and you see them
25:57
show up on your feet or whatever of the
25:59
cars that are just sitting there. And
26:01
then the guy comes and
26:02
he gets the bar weight going. If he
26:04
doesn't have a snorkel or something, it
26:05
just pulls out and keeps
26:06
going to people like, what? And it's
26:09
like, it's like, get the
26:10
hell out of the way. I got Jeep
26:12
things to do. Well, I mean, even, I mean,
26:16
you don't drive a Jeep into
26:17
30 feet deep water. I don't
26:18
want anybody to think that that's what
26:19
you do, but there is a median. There is
26:23
usually an overpass.
26:25
And even though it's not strictly legal,
26:28
uh, you can pop that thing
26:31
down and four wheel drive
26:32
and drive your up the side and get up,
26:34
get up to high ground. Um,
26:37
so, and, uh, they're very well,
26:40
I mean, just because you have a Jeep
26:41
doesn't mean you know how to use it, but
26:43
I think most people in
26:44
a panic situation will figure it out. Uh,
26:47
and, uh, I remember, uh,
26:49
several times, uh, really more for
26:51
grins than anything else. Cause it freaks
26:53
my wife out. Uh, maybe it'd
26:54
be in a parking lot. We're
26:55
trying to get to our restaurant or
26:57
something. And that, uh, where I pulled
26:59
in doesn't have a through
27:01
way to get to the other part of the
27:03
parking lot where the
27:03
restaurant is. Hey, we're going over
27:06
near it's like, Oh my God, what are you
27:08
doing? I said, hold on
27:10
baby. We're doing Jeep stuff.
27:12
And it's not like it's four wheel drive
27:13
or anything. It's just
27:15
going up over the curb
27:16
and, uh, it's having special powers and
27:19
you can do stuff. You can
27:20
get in trouble. You know,
27:21
I don't want to mess up the, I don't mess
27:23
up any grass or anything
27:24
like that, but if it's concrete,
27:26
I ain't going to mess it up. Well, if
27:27
it's grass, just go, go slow on grass.
27:30
Don't give it to beans too much. And the
27:33
other thing is you speed bump, uh,
27:37
I'm driving the speed limit. Uh, and if
27:39
you don't like me driving
27:40
the speed limit down your,
27:41
your road, you, well, I mean, these speed
27:45
bumps are kind of inherent
27:47
and certainly Michigan and,
27:49
Michigan is known for having some of the
27:52
worst roads in the country
27:53
and that, and that's negative.
27:54
And that's because we have, uh, to my
27:56
understanding, the
27:57
highest per axle allowable
27:59
weight for semi trucks. So the roads are
28:02
very, very bad. Now
28:03
you go into Canada, which
28:05
for my house is about 20 minutes away or
28:08
Ohio, which is about an
28:09
hour away. And the roads,
28:11
surprisingly the same climate are very
28:13
smooth, but, um, my ride to
28:14
work, uh, the last stretches,
28:16
choose the roads are beat up pretty good.
28:18
And people are going
28:19
around, I mean, swerving to
28:22
get over this bump that in a car would
28:25
probably, you feel it,
28:26
but I just, just hit it.
28:28
Well, you bomb out on some of those
28:29
things that the cars low enough.
28:32
All right. So speaking of good news, I
28:35
talked about the, uh, the
28:36
Wolf box, uh, uh, try camera
28:40
mirror. And I've had that for several
28:42
weeks now. Uh, I don't know if I
28:44
mentioned a year or not,
28:45
but I actually had a little cancer on my
28:47
arm that got cut off. And,
28:49
uh, even though it hasn't
28:50
really been painful, I didn't want to do
28:54
any damage by running my
28:55
hand in and around things.
28:57
The wolf box install, uh, along with, uh,
28:59
with my, uh, my wife, I
29:01
was in the gladiator over at
29:02
the mother-in-law's house. Um, uh, it's,
29:04
it's been taken a while.
29:06
So I got a, um, what was it?
29:10
G 900 wolf box, uh, pro, uh, try camera.
29:16
That means three for
29:16
you, you folks with cars.
29:19
And, um, it, it is pretty cool. And I was
29:23
really surprised to find
29:24
out that several of our, uh,
29:26
Jeep talk show community people already
29:28
have them. In fact, uh,
29:30
Steve O was talking about his,
29:33
that, uh, he has a, he bitches about it
29:35
being the older version and
29:37
the wifi. It doesn't have wifi.
29:39
So the one I have a does have wifi. So
29:41
you can connect to it
29:42
with your phone and transfer
29:45
files that you've recorded. So this
29:47
mirror, if you're not familiar with it,
29:49
it, uh, it's configurable
29:51
by, you know, uh, the touchscreen on the
29:53
mirror. It's not actually a
29:54
mirror. It's just, it's just
29:56
in the green and the, and the form of a
29:58
mirror. I do think it does have some
30:00
reflective capabilities,
30:02
uh, but generally speaking in a modified
30:04
Jeep, either because
30:04
you're high or because your, uh,
30:06
spare tire is mounted on the back of your
30:08
Jeep and it's larger than the
30:10
stock one. You can't see out
30:11
the back lights anyway. So this is the
30:13
cool thing about the wolf box
30:15
mirror. It allows you to see
30:17
behind you for backing up and, uh,
30:20
various things. The, the
30:22
one I got, um, it'll do the,
30:24
you can put these cameras wherever you
30:26
want, but generally speaking,
30:27
you put the one on the nose,
30:29
so that you can see the, the ground in
30:32
front of you mainly for off
30:33
road. And then you have the
30:35
one in the rear, which we all, I think
30:37
everybody has a rear camera
30:38
that even older vehicles have
30:40
the rear cameras as, as an head on these
30:42
days. And then it has a, a
30:45
camera mounted in the mirror
30:47
for the dash cam aspect of it. So if you,
30:50
if you have a dash cam and
30:52
you know how you can record
30:53
stuff, all the crazy stuff, craziness
30:55
that goes on in front of
30:56
you, uh, this has that too. Two
30:59
things I found out. Um, one was like
31:02
Steve was talking about,
31:04
um, the, uh, he has, I think,
31:06
I don't think he has the real long or
31:08
wide one and, uh, doesn't have wifi. So
31:13
there's a problem with
31:14
the, the, the big mirror, um, on the,
31:18
the, the LJ and the JT,
31:20
you can't use your visors.
31:23
You can't put the visor down because it
31:24
will strike the mirror as
31:26
you're bringing it down.
31:27
I mean, you can move the mirror. It's not
31:29
like it has to be lined up
31:30
for the back because it's,
31:31
it's a, it's a monitor. So you can move
31:34
it over a little bit,
31:35
bring the visor down and do the same kind
31:37
of back. But that's one
31:37
inconvenience, uh, that, uh,
31:40
I've found out about. Um, but you don't
31:42
have to get the 12 inch,
31:44
well, one, I believe it was 12.
31:45
You don't have to get the really wide
31:47
one. They make them, uh,
31:49
narrower. And, uh, Bill,
31:51
you remember Bill, I think Bill was at
31:53
the, uh, the event, uh, he,
31:55
he has one and he got the,
31:57
the, the 12 inch model. He didn't like
31:59
how much it was covering up his, his
32:01
ability to see out of his
32:03
Jeep. So he got the, the narrow one, the
32:06
10 inch, I think is what it
32:07
was. So this is something to
32:08
mind whenever you're looking at the Wolf
32:10
box stuff. And we're going to
32:11
have some videos and stuff up
32:12
as soon as I can get the flight of either
32:14
back and get my lazy out
32:16
there to finish up the install.
32:17
I have installed the front and the back
32:19
camera. The only thing I
32:20
need to do is run the wires,
32:22
the zip tie them, uh, and then run them
32:24
through the, uh, the firewall.
32:26
So you mentioned on the nose, so you
32:28
could actually have the
32:30
function of the trail cam.
32:31
I don't know if the, yes, that's exactly
32:33
what it comes with it, but
32:34
I can only imagine that's a
32:36
multi a hundred dollars and have a
32:37
thousand dollar option only.
32:39
It's a Rubicon only. It's an option.
32:42
Yeah. Um, so, uh, I think
32:44
that's going to be really cool.
32:46
And I thought, well, that's kind of silly
32:47
until I was out at Hills
32:49
revenge and going up and down
32:52
those, uh, those fins. Uh, and then, you
32:55
know, you know, there's
32:56
the other side, you know,
32:57
it's going to be there when you crest
32:58
over, but you really
33:00
don't know it should be there.
33:04
There's no reason why it shouldn't be
33:06
there, but you don't. And
33:07
if you have one of those
33:08
nose trail cams, you can actually see,
33:10
yeah, it's, it's right
33:11
there. And also to it, uh,
33:14
for a practical aspect, that's the funny
33:16
aspect, the practical
33:17
aspect. What if somebody stopped?
33:19
What if there's a traffic jam and you're
33:22
coming over the top? I
33:22
mean, you're going slow,
33:24
but I would still rather see that Jeep or
33:26
a Bronco or whatever it is.
33:28
Cause I don't know if you know this
33:30
Chris, they let non Jeeps and to mow it.
33:32
I think that's wrong myself. It's just a,
33:34
it's just a bad idea.
33:35
Especially since Jeep is saying, I think
33:37
he had on the show some
33:38
weeks ago, Moab or Jeep is the
33:41
official off-road vehicle and Moab. So it
33:43
should be outlawed for
33:43
anything other than the deep.
33:45
The Moab, I mean,
33:47
Yeah. Well, even at Easter Jeep safari,
33:50
you see, uh, Broncos and, uh,
33:52
full-size pickups and stuff.
33:54
They just need to be turned around. You
33:56
know, you just go over
33:57
there and, and there's a time
33:59
for you for this week. You need to just
34:00
come over there. Yeah. Come back the
34:01
week, the after next.
34:02
Yeah. Yeah. But, um, no, that, uh, I, I,
34:06
I'm not a proponent of
34:08
backup cameras. Turn your
34:09
head is my model, but I will say it's
34:13
nice in the gladiator because it
34:14
obviously is longer.
34:16
Those are nice backup cameras on the
34:18
gladiator, but, uh, I, I'm
34:21
always playing Tetris with cars
34:22
at the house when the kids are home and,
34:24
um, you know, we, we
34:26
don't have a lot of space in
34:27
the driveway and we're not, we get
34:29
ticketed if we leave the
34:30
vehicle in the street overnight.
34:31
So I use that backup camera because I can
34:35
put my, I can back the
34:36
gladiator and right up against my
34:38
daughter's car, my son's car, my wife's
34:39
car and get, you know, I know, um, I may
34:42
or may not have bumped
34:43
one of them once or twice, but I know
34:45
exactly where it is and you can really,
34:47
it's helpful to get it
34:48
in. And I would expect having a front
34:50
facing camera would be even easier if
34:51
you're not backing in or
34:53
you've got to see something. It just a
34:55
couple inches, uh, it makes a
34:56
difference every now and then.
34:58
So, um, and just so everybody knows, I
35:01
mean, I think people that
35:02
have seen Tesla videos, uh,
35:04
just expect that everything's being
35:06
recorded all the time.
35:07
Cause you see these people
35:09
damaging Teslas and, uh, and there's
35:11
nobody driving there.
35:12
They're all by themselves. Uh,
35:14
it has got sentry mode. Well, the, the
35:15
Wolf box has the sentry mode as well.
35:18
With the three, three camera system, you
35:20
got the dash cam, you got
35:21
the front cam and you got the
35:22
rear cam. So it's not watching the sides
35:25
of the vehicle, but you're,
35:27
you're getting quite a bit
35:28
and it is on a century. I think it does
35:31
all three cams on century
35:32
mode, but I'll have to find out
35:33
more about that as I, as I use it. But
35:36
the cool thing is, is it's
35:38
recording all three cameras.
35:43
So you can see a problem, a problem child
35:45
behind you, like on
35:46
the freeway or something,
35:48
uh, maybe road rage incident. You get
35:50
them from the rear and you
35:51
get them for the front two ways
35:53
on the front. You've, I'm sorry to cut
35:57
you off, but you've, you've
35:58
run a, I know you've run in
36:00
the XJ and the, and the gladiator dash
36:03
cam. And I think it was a
36:04
couple of years ago, maybe three.
36:05
Now you had the parking lot rage at, I
36:08
think Sam's club, uh, where
36:10
the gentleman took the liberty of
36:11
scraping the, uh, the gladiator, the 2021
36:14
Jeep chocks with
36:15
gladiator. Cause he parked too close
36:17
to you. I know he was parked, he was
36:20
parked in a spot and he, he
36:22
didn't pull up. It was like he
36:23
pulled in the wrong way to get into the
36:26
spot. And as you know,
36:29
especially with the gladiator,
36:31
it's hard to tell where the body is. So
36:33
he was actually in his
36:36
spot and the spot, uh,
36:38
right behind him. Cause he pulled in, you
36:40
know how you can pull
36:40
into a spot and forward.
36:43
Cause it's that way you don't actually
36:45
have to back in, but it's
36:46
basically the same results.
36:47
So it pissed me off. It's a good spot.
36:51
Why do I have to go pick
36:53
another spot? Because you don't
36:54
know how to park your truck. Right. So,
36:56
so I pulled up, uh, and tried
36:59
to use as much of the space,
37:00
my space as possible. And come to find
37:03
out later when the, uh, the
37:04
police were questioning him,
37:06
um, that, uh, yes, they did. And, uh, he
37:09
has a, uh, a felony
37:11
warrant out for him. Um, he, uh,
37:13
he thought his rationale was is that I
37:16
hit his truck when I pulled in, uh, I
37:20
didn't hit his truck,
37:21
right? But that was his rationale. Well,
37:23
the thing was, is he wanted to put the
37:25
tailgate down and put
37:26
his, uh, Sam's groceries in the bed of
37:29
the truck and he couldn't put the
37:30
tailgate down. Cause
37:32
you can pull the truck forward eight
37:34
inches. I believe he could, but
37:36
apparently that was not
37:37
reasonable and doing, uh, over almost
37:41
$3,000 worth of paint damage to my
37:44
gladiator. And it doesn't
37:45
take much folks. You think it's, you
37:47
think it's fun to key a
37:48
vehicle and now you're getting back
37:50
item. The, he, he will go to jail. He
37:54
will be arrested and taken
37:56
to a jet, taken to the jail
37:57
and he can, uh, uh, I guess bond out or
38:00
whatever with the judge. And, um, the
38:02
thing that got me was
38:04
is that the older gentleman, I think he
38:06
was a 67 at the time that
38:07
this happened and a traveling
38:10
nurse, this is a man that was taking care
38:14
of sick people. And I guess
38:16
if you, I guess if you pissed
38:18
him off, you might get keyed while you're
38:19
passed out in the, uh, the hospital bed.
38:21
Uh-huh. Or you might not wake up, but,
38:26
uh, but then no, that's, I think
38:27
obviously that was a
38:28
unique situation you had, but another
38:30
reason to, to have a dash cam and, and,
38:36
you know, having the
38:37
dash cam, the nose cam and the tail cam.
38:40
And I imagine that, you
38:41
know, the backup camera,
38:42
like you said, most any vehicle built in
38:44
the last 10, 15 years
38:45
has a backup camera,
38:46
but I assume you can put that rear camera
38:48
anywhere you want it.
38:49
You put on the ball.
38:50
Oh yeah. Yeah. No, you could put it under
38:51
the Jeep. If you, if there
38:52
was a spot, you could put
38:53
it on the left and right side. If you
38:55
wanted to be able to see what
38:56
the terrain was when you were
38:57
off road. Uh, absolutely. Uh, I'm
39:00
starting to do, they have a, um, uh,
39:03
maybe a fourth camera for a
39:04
death wobble detection under the
39:07
undercarriage and just see, you know, I
39:08
mean, what, what's causing
39:10
death wobbles track fire ball joint. What
39:12
is it? Oh, that would be
39:13
cool. Wouldn't it? Uh, but, uh,
39:15
I've, uh, I've decided that on the
39:16
harness, uh, for the rear camera, there's
39:19
a, uh, a pig tail or a,
39:21
uh, a wire that you tie into the backup
39:24
lights. And then when that
39:26
wire is connected, it will
39:28
switch to the rear camera on your mirror
39:30
so that you don't have to
39:31
manually pick which camera you're
39:32
looking at, um, uh, full screen rear. So
39:36
you can see I've got a
39:37
really nice backup camera and a
39:39
eight and a quarter or eight and a half
39:40
inch display on the
39:42
gladiator. That backup cam works
39:45
just fine. So I'm going to use it. I'm
39:47
not going to hook up that wire. Uh, I
39:49
have a backup camera.
39:51
So this camera may, it may be put
39:54
positioned differently in
39:55
the future, but right now I've
39:56
got it down low and, uh, the, uh, the
39:59
wolf box kit that I got, it comes with a
40:01
license plate mount.
40:03
So you basically, you can put the camera
40:05
on the top of the license
40:07
plate. And, uh, with the, uh,
40:09
the motor built bumper that I have, it's
40:11
protected. I don't have to worry about
40:12
it, uh, getting, uh,
40:14
scraped off or anything. I mean, somebody
40:16
could think that, uh,
40:17
that traveling nurse,
40:18
he could rip off the camera if he was
40:20
pissed off, I guess. Uh, but,
40:22
uh, they're not, they're not
40:23
super expensive cameras. Um, but, uh, so
40:26
I've got that license plate
40:27
melt on there and I was thinking
40:29
about how am I going to put this on the
40:31
front of the gladiator? And
40:32
then I went, Oh, I'll, I'll get
40:34
another license plate melt. Now here's a
40:36
trick for you. The license
40:37
plate melt, uh, from a wolf box
40:39
like 15, 20 bucks. It's cheap. This is a
40:42
piece of metal. It's very
40:43
convenient. I got it from Amazon
40:45
for a 4 95. It's the exact same thing. So
40:51
I'm pretty sure I'm going
40:52
to be changing that one,
40:53
but I really need to get the mirror
40:54
hooked up to see what, what it's being
40:56
shown on the camera.
40:58
Uh, I, I suspect that, uh, I will be able
41:01
to mount it to the worn winch
41:04
and kind of have it pointing
41:05
out. Uh, and, uh, one of the cool things
41:08
I noticed about the camera, the mirror is
41:10
you can scroll. So you may have a, you
41:13
know, a full 16 by nine,
41:15
uh, on the, on the camera,
41:17
but you're only seeing a slice of it. So
41:20
that allows you to scroll
41:21
up or scroll down. So is
41:23
the camera, does the camera move? No,
41:26
it's because the picture is bigger than
41:28
what the mirror shows.
41:30
If you think about it, because now the
41:31
mirror, you got a slice,
41:34
and you're basically moving up and down.
41:36
So it's not the
41:37
camera itself. Isn't moving
41:38
just the, the digital, the pixels part of
41:40
it on the thing is saying,
41:42
I'm sure you can set it where
41:43
you like it. And that's where it is. But
41:45
if you need to look at more
41:46
detail, you won't look further
41:47
down or further up. You can do that, uh,
41:49
which will be handy if you
41:51
need to do the license plate
41:52
off of somebody, uh, on road rage. I will
41:55
warn you people that,
41:58
yeah, you got a, you got a dash
42:00
you got all these cameras, you're
42:01
recording a 24 seven and you're going to
42:05
put these people in prison.
42:08
Be careful. It's recording what you do
42:10
too. Right. Right. And I don't even mean,
42:14
I don't even mean that you, something you
42:15
did two days ago. I mean, at
42:17
the time you could be doing
42:18
stuff because you're pissed off and
42:20
you're making a bad decision, uh, in the
42:23
road rage thing. Uh, but
42:25
just keep in mind, it is recording them,
42:28
but it's recording you not
42:29
inside the vehicle. Although
42:30
they do have a model where you could put
42:32
the camera inside and it
42:33
records you and the things
42:34
going on around you. Uh, but just how
42:37
you're reacting to things.
42:38
Is that, is I think that's
42:40
called their cash cab model or cash cab
42:44
was at that real cash cab only fans.
42:46
Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
42:48
Or, or, or, I mean, a little bit after
42:50
hours, the, uh, the bang
42:52
boss is one I've heard.
42:53
It's, it's a profit share. Oh, it helps
42:58
me if it helps pay for
42:58
the jeeps. I mean, you know,
43:00
20 bucks is 20 bucks, right? That's
43:02
right. That's right. So, uh,
43:04
oh, speaking of that, I, uh, uh,
43:06
I only have a few more months July, uh,
43:10
and the, uh, the
43:11
gladiator will be paid for.
43:12
Nice longer have any payments, which
43:16
obviously means it's going to go to. Uh,
43:19
well, then you just put a, put a Hemi in
43:21
it Dana sixties, Dana 70, uh, you know,
43:24
38 and with your, and with 34,000 of you
43:28
becoming a patreon subscriber,
43:30
you could help make that dream come true.
43:35
All right. So, uh, Chris,
43:37
let's talk about the, um,
43:39
but another thing about good news, uh,
43:41
the, um, um, our camper, uh,
43:45
you said something the other
43:46
day that surprised me. Uh, we were
43:48
actually going to do a little
43:50
walk around and stuff. And you,
43:51
and you told me, uh, cause I wasn't
43:54
thinking about winter because what do I
43:56
care about winter? It
43:57
didn't get winter here. You said, you
43:58
told me, he goes, you
44:00
told me, well, the, the,
44:00
the, our campers put away, put away for
44:03
the season. And I, and I,
44:04
we've done this year after year,
44:06
not the camera, but we've camper, but
44:08
we've done this year
44:08
after year. You go to events,
44:10
you do things being in the Detroit area.
44:12
There's a lot of stuff that
44:13
goes on. That's interesting
44:14
to you and interesting to our audience.
44:16
Um, it's over. Yeah.
44:19
Because you can't go out there and
44:20
get frozen in place. And there's, there's
44:24
no reason to the camp.
44:25
Although I think, uh, ice
44:27
covered snow covered, uh, the our camper,
44:29
uh, and you, uh, out there
44:30
shivering your, uh, your ass
44:32
off. And when you go pee, uh, the yellow
44:34
ice cubes, uh, fall out
44:35
off onto the ground. I think
44:37
that'd make this good video. That'd be
44:39
good content. But yeah, it's, uh, the
44:41
weather's turning and,
44:42
uh, it's, it's darker earlier. And, uh, I
44:45
think this weekend is the,
44:46
we're still doing daylight
44:47
savings time changes here. Or is that
44:49
something supposed to be, uh, they
44:50
haven't signed, uh, they
44:51
haven't completed that bill. Uh, so
44:54
we'll, we'll see what happens with that.
44:55
I think that's going
44:56
to be one of those things where people
44:57
are going to go, that's not
44:59
as good as what I thought it
45:00
would be. I think that the, the, the,
45:02
they're being really dark
45:03
out, uh, during times whenever
45:05
it's, uh, it's not normally not that dark
45:07
because of daylight savings
45:08
time, but I do like the idea
45:10
of it not changing. It's, it's a lot
45:12
nicer now with all the computers that we
45:14
have and everything.
45:15
Um, I think the microwave, I have to
45:17
change the time on the
45:18
microwave and the coffee maker,
45:20
but phones, uh, computers, all that
45:23
stuff, it, it just changes
45:24
automatically, uh, which is nice.
45:27
Um, so, uh, the R camper you've used it,
45:30
what did you use about four
45:31
or five times here over the,
45:33
the last, uh, several months? I did six
45:36
nights. So got it in May, had it
45:38
installed in June and did
45:40
six nights and 3000 plus miles on the
45:43
back of it. Um, just
45:45
driving around and showing it off,
45:46
but I did, I slept in it for six nights
45:49
in total. And you got a
45:50
picture that you saw on,
45:52
not only think you were tagged in it, you
45:54
got a picture up on
45:54
Facebook of you driving down the
45:56
freeway, uh, with, uh, with the camper,
45:59
uh, on your, which was
46:00
pretty cool. Somebody, I took a
46:02
picture and posted it on a overland
46:05
something on Facebook page and it just
46:07
popped up. You know what,
46:08
what in the same hell or the, there was a
46:10
reference to it looks very
46:11
strange on the, since it's a
46:13
mid-size, I would look better on a full
46:16
size, this static, but the point of it
46:18
is, is that it sleeps
46:20
good. Uh, it's, it's, it's a shelter and
46:23
it's light. I think it's 180
46:25
pounds. Uh, so it's good to
46:28
have somebody help you with it. Cause
46:30
it's kind of large, uh, but it's not
46:32
anything that you couldn't
46:33
handle on your own. Uh, it's inflatable
46:35
if you don't already know.
46:36
Uh, and it's, it's been a really
46:38
nice, uh, inflatable camper that was
46:41
provided to us by a recent
46:43
guest, uh, the our camper.com.
46:45
So that's one of the reasons why we're
46:46
talking about it, not only
46:48
because it was something that
46:49
was provided to us, but because it's
46:52
really cool and it's very handy. You've
46:54
been tent camping for
46:56
a number of years and, and, and, uh,
46:58
thanks to the Jeep talk show,
47:00
you have been raised a level
47:03
literally off the ground, uh, at a pyre.
47:05
So it's a, it's really cool.
47:07
Yeah, it's a truck bed camper. It changes
47:10
the, uh, changes your, your
47:12
outlook on camping. And I,
47:13
like I said, I mean, I left it on for
47:14
several weeks and I just
47:16
left my stuff in it. And the
47:18
only thing you really need is a lot of
47:19
interaction for people too. Oh yeah. Oh
47:21
yeah. I was a big hit
47:22
at Toledo, Toledo Jeep fast and had
47:24
people in and out of it at in the parade.
47:26
And, um, it just gets
47:28
a lot of looks and I've had people stop
47:30
me going into get a coffee
47:32
at Starbucks or, uh, you know,
47:33
give me a thumbs up and a lot of
47:35
rubbernecking on the freeway, which is
47:37
always funny. Just doing the
47:38
you know, as you're driving people don't
47:43
almost, uh, so where to move
47:45
before and disbelief. Like you
47:47
flayed it when you stop. I'm like, no,
47:48
you, you saw me driving down
47:50
the road with it. Right. You
47:51
leave it, you leave it inflated. And, uh,
47:54
and I just like you because
47:56
it is a camper. I recently
47:57
picked up, uh, one of those power
47:59
stations, which I think is just a fancy
48:01
battery with a volt meter
48:03
and a USB-C, but now, and I've got this
48:05
thing that's sitting here,
48:06
I'm looking at it right now.
48:08
Okay. Leave that in there. And I'm like,
48:10
oh, maybe here. And it's
48:12
just, uh, you know, I was like,
48:14
I'm going to leave some clothes. I don't
48:15
have to put clothes in a duffel bag. I
48:17
can just put clothes.
48:18
It just, it's just different. And, and
48:20
I'm looking forward to next season to
48:22
just leave it, leave it
48:24
on or leave it in and just drive around
48:27
with it. You never know when you'll need
48:29
a, need an emergency
48:30
nap. Exactly. Exactly. Stop someplace
48:34
sleep along the way. And, uh, yeah, I'd
48:36
like to, uh, tentatively
48:38
the plan right now is to finally, uh, 27
48:41
hit Easter Jeep Safari. And, uh, I'm
48:44
thinking their camper
48:45
would be a good way to go there to have
48:48
shelter. And if need be,
48:50
because it is, it does require
48:52
the tailgate to be down because of the
48:54
length of it and the gladiator. And it's
48:56
something, you know,
48:57
Wolf box, like you said, I mean, you, so
48:59
the backup camera is
49:00
facing the ground. So it's
49:02
pretty useless. But, uh, if the other
49:05
thing too is 180 pounds,
49:06
you can just slip it out. So
49:08
if there's trails, I mean, you've been to
49:09
EJS, I would imagine
49:11
there's some trails that could do,
49:12
but, uh, the departure angles already
49:14
compromised in a gladiator. Yeah. The
49:16
Dhar camper, uh, two
49:19
trips to EJS and not having to spend
49:22
$1,500 a week would pay for
49:25
pay for the Dhar camper. And
49:28
you get it, you get a lot more cred
49:30
whenever you're, you're
49:31
actually camping out. And there's
49:33
some beautiful places to camp out. It is
49:36
nice to have the shower, but
49:37
that's, uh, the overlanding
49:39
thing. I can see where people like it.
49:41
And the cool thing is you can
49:43
deflate it. I think what you
49:44
said that you were going to do at EJS is
49:46
actually just take it off
49:47
and leave it at camp and then
49:49
come back. But you could literally, if
49:51
you're a worry wart like me, you can
49:53
literally deflate it,
49:54
uh, leave it in the, the, the, the
49:57
tailgate of the gladiator,
49:59
go wheeling, come back up,
50:01
come back and, uh, and air it back up or
50:03
for going, uh, going to
50:04
bed. Um, and it's not like
50:07
you got to carry a trailer with you. Uh,
50:09
Roger has a really nice
50:11
trailer, uh, that, uh, that he
50:12
takes out there and I think those things
50:15
are really cool, but
50:16
they're so expensive and this
50:18
is a very inexpensive way and you don't
50:21
have to, uh, the, uh, uh,
50:24
built out of, uh, $1,500 and
50:26
the $1,500 plays I stayed at wasn't the
50:29
top, the top, uh, hotel.
50:32
Yeah. And to, to that point, uh, you go
50:34
to third camper.com, I
50:36
noticed on the website now,
50:37
they have an inflatable shower in a
50:39
toilet room with a water
50:42
heater. So, uh, it's, uh,
50:44
so, so don't, uh, I just have it a bit of
50:46
a day. That would be, uh, I don't, it
50:49
might, I don't know,
50:50
but it's, it's, it's pretty impressive.
50:51
It's, it's don't blow smoke up my ass,
50:53
but some water would
50:55
exactly, exactly. All right. On that
50:58
note, we're going to
50:59
wrap this thing up. Chris,
51:01
it's been an hour or getting really close
51:02
to it. So a good, good conversation. Uh,
51:06
no, did you want to say anything about,
51:07
uh, uh, any of the other,
51:09
uh, sponsors that you have for
51:11
your Jeep, there are two row tires. We
51:12
mentioned the, our camper,
51:14
uh, there's a G tops that I
51:16
mentioned earlier today in an interview
51:18
that we did. Uh, we
51:20
don't do this for freebies,
51:22
but some of the stuff is so nice. And
51:25
whenever they, they, they
51:27
demand, we will say, Oh, okay.
51:31
Sure. Sure. We'll take it. But no, it's
51:33
like the wolf box thing. Yeah. Yes. No,
51:35
I don't want to give a thorough tires,
51:37
another shout out. So I've
51:38
got many thousand miles on
51:39
those right now. Uh, so shout out to Ray
51:42
and the team at a thorough
51:43
tires, uh, check them out. I
51:44
know they are at SEMA. Unfortunately we
51:47
won't be at SEMA this
51:48
year, but they're at SEMA. Uh,
51:50
they're really good. Meekam auctions in
51:51
Indianapolis coming up, but they, uh,
51:54
love in the tutorial tires. Um, and I'm
51:56
looking forward to checking
51:58
them out or trying them out
51:59
at EJS and, uh, many, many, many more
52:03
miles to come. Yep. All
52:05
right, guys, you know, uh,
52:06
you know how it works to go over to Jeep
52:08
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52:10
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52:11
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part of the Jeep talk show
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community. Our email addresses, uh, you'd
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Chris on, uh, being a guest here on the
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52:33
we've had a few recent people
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reach straight to us without you having
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to go after them, which is
52:37
always nice, uh, that, uh,
52:40
people are actually, uh, it's not like a,
52:42
well, okay. It's like,
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Hey, would you get it? Could
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be on your show, which is neat. Uh, and
52:48
again, you can find out all the
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52:52
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Jeep talk show.com, uh, slash contact
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and, uh, 16 years, uh, almost a 1500
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episodes. Uh, and, uh,
53:04
many of the, uh, the ones from the last
53:07
two or three years are on YouTube.
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Actually they're all
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YouTube, but the, there's actually video
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for the last two or three
53:14
years that you can watch. If you,
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if you desire to watch, uh, watch us and
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see what we look like and
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more than happy to do that. Audio
53:22
only audio only audio is gold and it's a
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great thing that you can
53:27
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53:29
or mow in the grass or working out at the
53:31
gym. So audio is great. Uh,
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audio, it makes really a lot
53:35
sense. Uh, but, uh, yeah. All right,
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Chris, thanks a lot for, for being here.
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Thank you. Great job. And,
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uh, you and everybody else have a great
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night. You're my
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