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Expressing Yourself Through Music · Skirts Up!

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  So
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  give
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  us
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  a
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  note?
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  Me?
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  Oh,
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  yeah,
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  you're
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  the
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  music.
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  Oh,
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  he
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  has.
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  Mute
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  what
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  you
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  got.
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  Stop
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  it.
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  Okay.
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  You're
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  the
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  best.
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  I'm
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  not
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  cutting
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  this.
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  She's
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  not
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  cutting
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  it.
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  All
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  right.
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  Give
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  you
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  a
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  note.
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  We're
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  doing
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  a
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  skirt.
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  Skirt.
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  Yes,
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  yes.
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  Good
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  range.
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  I
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  love
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  it.
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  This
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  is
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  so
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  fun.
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  So
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  my
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  skirt
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  was
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  right
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  there.
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  1,
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  2,
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  3.
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  Skirts.
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  That
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  was
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  so
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  beautiful.
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  Hey,
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  you.
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  You're
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  tuned
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  in
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  to
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  the
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  Skirts
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  up
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  show
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  with
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  Samantha
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  and
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  Melissa.
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  Join
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  our
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  mission
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  to
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  normalize
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  failure
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  but
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  still
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  uncover
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  the
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  positives
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  at
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  every
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  twist
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  and
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  turn.
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  Skirts
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  up,
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  but
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  keep
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  your
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  panties.
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  What's
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  up?
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  Skirts
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  up
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  squad.
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  It
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  is
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  Samantha
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  and
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  Melissa.
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  And
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  we
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  are
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  back
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  from
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  Thanksgiving.
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  I
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  hope
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  everyone
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  had
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  a
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  great
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  one.
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  That's
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  true.
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  That's
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  true.
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  Actually,
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  I'm
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  not
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  a
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  good
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  liar.
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  You
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  guys
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  are
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  back
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  from
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  Thanksgiving.
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  We're
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  about
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  to
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  go
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  to
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  Thanksgiving.
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  Okay.
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  If
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  we're
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  being
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  honest,
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  I
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  tried
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  so.
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  Hard
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  to
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  play
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  along
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  with
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  it.
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  I'm
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  like,
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  yeah,
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  yeah,
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  my
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  great
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  Thanksgiving
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  was
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  great.
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  But
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  okay,
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  that's
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  fair.
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  Anyway,
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  how's
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  prepping
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  going
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  for
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  you?
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  I
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  don't
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  do
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  a
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  damn
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  thing.
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  That's
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  awesome.
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  Simon
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  does
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  it
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  all.
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  Yeah.
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  You
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  said
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  he's
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  making
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  the
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  turkey
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  this
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  year
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  and.
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  Yep.
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  I
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  don't
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  gotta
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  do
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  a
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  thing.
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  Just
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  sit
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  there
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  and
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  look
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  pretty.
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  Well,
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  that's
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  nice
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  because
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  you're
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  good
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  at
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  that.
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  Oh,
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  thanks.
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  So
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  I
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  have
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  a
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  failure.
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  Let's
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  hear
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  it.
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  So
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  it's
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  not
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  like
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  a
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  story
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  of
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  a
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  specific
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  fail.
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  It's
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  a
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  feeling
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  of
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  feeling
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  like
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  a
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  failure
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  in
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  life.
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  I
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  had
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  a
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  young
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  girl
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  come
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  in
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  here.
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  I
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  say
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  young
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  because
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  I
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  did
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  think
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  she
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  was
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  in
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  her
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  20s,
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  but
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  she
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  came
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  into
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  the
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  shop
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  and
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  she
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  was
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  talking
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  to
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  me
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  and
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  she
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  was
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  super.
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  So
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  just
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  sweet
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  and
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  kind
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  and
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  through
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  talking,
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  first
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  thing.
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  One
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  of
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  the
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  things
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  I
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  asked
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  her
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  in
• 2:17
  trying
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  to
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  get
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  to
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  know
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  her
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  was
• 2:18
  like,
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  oh,
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  well,
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  did
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  you
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  go
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  to
• 2:19
  school?
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  Because
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  she
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  had
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  mentioned
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  she
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  lived
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  in
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  another
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  city.
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  Like,
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  oh,
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  did
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  you
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  go
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  to
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  school
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  there?
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  She
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  got
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  really
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  embarrassed
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  and
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  she's
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  like,
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  I
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  didn't
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  go
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  to
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  college.
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  And
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  I
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  was
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  just
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  like,
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  what?
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  First
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  of
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  all,
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  it
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  was.
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  I
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  was
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  like.
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  Because
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  I
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  remember
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  feeling
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  that
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  way.
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  That's
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  what
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  it
• 2:34
  brought
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  back
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  is
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  just
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  huge
• 2:35
  feelings
• 2:36
  of
• 2:36
  like,
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  because
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  I
• 2:37
  went
• 2:37
  to
• 2:37
  school.
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  But
• 2:38
  as
• 2:38
  we
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  know,
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  I
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  went
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  early
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  homeschool,
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  yada,
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  yada.
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  I'm
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  go
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  through
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  the
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  whole
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  thing.
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  Didn't
• 2:43
  know
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  what
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  I
• 2:43
  want
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  to
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  do,
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  but
• 2:44
  I
• 2:44
  wanted
• 2:44
  to
• 2:44
  be
• 2:44
  an
• 2:44
  art
• 2:45
  major.
• 2:45
  Dad
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  did
• 2:46
  not
• 2:46
  like
• 2:46
  that
• 2:46
  idea.
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  And
• 2:47
  I
• 2:47
  really
• 2:47
  wanted
• 2:47
  to
• 2:47
  please
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  him.
• 2:48
  I
• 2:48
  did.
• 2:49
  He
• 2:50
  Wasn't
• 2:50
  like
• 2:50
  putting
• 2:50
  down
• 2:50
  the
• 2:51
  kibosh,
• 2:51
  saying,
• 2:51
  you
• 2:51
  can't
• 2:52
  major
• 2:52
  in
• 2:52
  that.
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  But
• 2:53
  it
• 2:53
  was
• 2:53
  a
• 2:53
  lot
• 2:53
  of,
• 2:54
  you
• 2:54
  know,
• 2:56
  persuading
• 2:56
  and,
• 2:56
  like,
• 2:57
  you
• 2:57
  really
• 2:57
  shouldn't,
• 2:58
  blah,
• 2:58
  blah,
• 2:58
  blah.
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  So
• 3:01
  I
• 3:01
  ended
• 3:01
  up
• 3:01
  changing
• 3:01
  my
• 3:01
  major.
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  And
• 3:03
  because
• 3:03
  of
• 3:03
  that,
• 3:03
  I
• 3:03
  changed
• 3:04
  my
• 3:04
  major
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  so
• 3:04
  many
• 3:05
  times,
• 3:05
  and
• 3:05
  I
• 3:05
  went
• 3:05
  to
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  so
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  many
• 3:06
  different
• 3:06
  schools.
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  I
• 3:07
  did
• 3:08
  graduate
• 3:08
  in
• 3:08
  a
• 3:08
  technical
• 3:09
  school
• 3:09
  at
• 3:09
  one
• 3:09
  point
• 3:09
  to
• 3:10
  be
• 3:10
  a
• 3:10
  dental
• 3:10
  lab
• 3:10
  technician.
• 3:11
  But
• 3:13
  one
• 3:14
  thing
• 3:14
  that
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  did
• 3:15
  in
• 3:15
  the
• 3:15
  very
• 3:15
  end
• 3:15
  was
• 3:16
  when
• 3:16
  I
• 3:16
  was.
• 3:17
  After
• 3:17
  I
• 3:17
  was
• 3:17
  married,
• 3:17
  I
• 3:17
  was
• 3:18
  32.
• 3:18
  I
• 3:18
  went
• 3:18
  back.
• 3:19
  No,
• 3:19
  it
• 3:19
  was
• 3:19
  before
• 3:19
  I
• 3:19
  was
• 3:20
  married.
• 3:20
  It
• 3:20
  was.
• 3:21
  Anyway,
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  went
• 3:21
  back
• 3:21
  to
• 3:21
  school,
• 3:22
  got
• 3:22
  my
• 3:22
  associates,
• 3:23
  then
• 3:23
  I
• 3:23
  started
• 3:24
  my
• 3:24
  bachelor's.
• 3:24
  And
• 3:25
  at
• 3:25
  that
• 3:25
  point
• 3:25
  I
• 3:25
  was
• 3:25
  like,
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  okay,
• 3:26
  what
• 3:26
  I'll
• 3:26
  do
• 3:26
  is
• 3:26
  I'll
• 3:26
  be
• 3:27
  a
• 3:27
  teacher
• 3:27
  again.
• 3:28
  I
• 3:28
  was
• 3:28
  still
• 3:28
  trying
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  please
• 3:29
  my
• 3:29
  dad.
• 3:29
  He
• 3:29
  wanted
• 3:29
  me
• 3:29
  to
• 3:29
  be
• 3:29
  a
• 3:30
  teacher
• 3:30
  for
• 3:30
  years,
• 3:31
  mostly
• 3:32
  because
• 3:32
  you
• 3:33
  could
• 3:33
  have
• 3:33
  your
• 3:33
  summers
• 3:34
  off
• 3:34
  with
• 3:34
  kids
• 3:34
  and
• 3:34
  you
• 3:34
  could
• 3:34
  be
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  good
• 3:35
  stay
• 3:35
  at
• 3:35
  home
• 3:35
  mom.
• 3:37
  Okay?
• 3:38
  I
• 3:38
  didn't
• 3:39
  have
• 3:39
  kids,
• 3:39
  but
• 3:39
  I
• 3:39
  was
• 3:40
  going
• 3:40
  to
• 3:40
  get
• 3:40
  married,
• 3:40
  and
• 3:41
  so
• 3:41
  I
• 3:41
  thought
• 3:41
  that's
• 3:41
  what
• 3:41
  I
• 3:42
  should
• 3:42
  do.
• 3:42
  Shoulds.
• 3:43
  It's
• 3:43
  always
• 3:43
  shoulds,
• 3:44
  right?
• 3:45
  So
• 3:46
  I
• 3:46
  was
• 3:46
  actually
• 3:47
  out
• 3:48
  in
• 3:48
  Texas,
• 3:49
  and
• 3:49
  I
• 3:50
  was
• 3:50
  at
• 3:50
  the
• 3:50
  school
• 3:50
  that
• 3:51
  our
• 3:51
  guest
• 3:52
  that
• 3:52
  we're
• 3:52
  about
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  speak
• 3:52
  to
• 3:53
  went
• 3:53
  to.
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  got
• 3:54
  through
• 3:54
  all
• 3:54
  my
• 3:55
  practicums.
• 3:55
  I
• 3:56
  literally
• 3:56
  had
• 3:56
  one
• 3:57
  semester,
• 3:57
  my
• 3:57
  very
• 3:57
  last
• 3:58
  semester,
• 3:58
  right
• 3:58
  before
• 3:58
  I
• 3:58
  had
• 3:59
  to,
• 3:59
  like,
• 3:59
  write
• 3:59
  my
• 3:59
  final
• 4:00
  thesis.
• 4:02
  I
• 4:02
  was
• 4:02
  going
• 4:02
  through
• 4:03
  a
• 4:03
  divorce.
• 4:04
  I
• 4:04
  was
• 4:04
  working
• 4:05
  80
• 4:05
  hours
• 4:05
  a
• 4:06
  week
• 4:06
  and
• 4:06
  going
• 4:06
  to
• 4:07
  school.
• 4:07
  I
• 4:08
  was
• 4:08
  working
• 4:09
  partially
• 4:09
  in
• 4:10
  town
• 4:10
  at
• 4:10
  a
• 4:10
  barn,
• 4:11
  and
• 4:11
  I
• 4:11
  was
• 4:11
  also
• 4:12
  nannying
• 4:12
  for
• 4:12
  a
• 4:13
  family
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  lived
• 4:13
  in
• 4:13
  Oklahoma,
• 4:14
  in
• 4:14
  another
• 4:14
  state.
• 4:15
  So
• 4:15
  every
• 4:16
  weekend
• 4:16
  I
• 4:16
  would
• 4:16
  drive
• 4:17
  up
• 4:17
  there.
• 4:17
  So
• 4:18
  there
• 4:18
  was
• 4:18
  a
• 4:18
  lot
• 4:18
  going
• 4:19
  on,
• 4:19
  and
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  just.
• 4:20
  I
• 4:20
  didn't
• 4:20
  have
• 4:20
  it
• 4:21
  in
• 4:21
  me.
• 4:21
  Especially
• 4:22
  once
• 4:22
  the
• 4:22
  divorce
• 4:22
  started.
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  was
• 4:23
  like,
• 4:23
  I
• 4:23
  just.
• 4:24
  I
• 4:24
  can't.
• 4:24
  And
• 4:24
  it
• 4:24
  was
• 4:24
  a
• 4:25
  mostly
• 4:25
  amicable
• 4:25
  divorce.
• 4:26
  Okay.
• 4:26
  But
• 4:27
  emotionally,
• 4:28
  there
• 4:28
  was
• 4:28
  a
• 4:28
  lot
• 4:28
  going
• 4:28
  on
• 4:28
  in
• 4:29
  my
• 4:29
  life.
• 4:29
  So
• 4:29
  I
• 4:29
  ended
• 4:29
  up
• 4:29
  dropping
• 4:30
  out
• 4:30
  in
• 4:30
  my
• 4:30
  very
• 4:30
  last
• 4:31
  semester
• 4:31
  before
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  got
• 4:31
  my
• 4:31
  bachelor's.
• 4:32
  I
• 4:32
  still
• 4:32
  don't
• 4:32
  have
• 4:33
  it.
• 4:34
  And
• 4:35
  I
• 4:35
  was
• 4:35
  talking
• 4:35
  to
• 4:35
  this
• 4:36
  girl,
• 4:36
  and
• 4:36
  I
• 4:36
  kind
• 4:36
  of
• 4:37
  told
• 4:37
  her
• 4:37
  that,
• 4:38
  and
• 4:38
  she's
• 4:38
  like,
• 4:38
  wow,
• 4:39
  thank
• 4:39
  you
• 4:39
  so
• 4:39
  much,
• 4:39
  because
• 4:39
  look
• 4:39
  at
• 4:39
  you
• 4:40
  now.
• 4:40
  And
• 4:41
  I
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  just
• 4:41
  like,
• 4:42
  what?
• 4:43
  I.
• 4:44
  I'm
• 4:44
  still
• 4:44
  don't
• 4:44
  know
• 4:45
  who
• 4:45
  I
• 4:45
  am
• 4:45
  or
• 4:45
  what
• 4:45
  I'm
• 4:45
  doing.
• 4:46
  But
• 4:46
  she
• 4:47
  was
• 4:47
  like,
• 4:47
  no,
• 4:47
  you
• 4:47
  have
• 4:48
  a.
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  didn't
• 4:48
  say
• 4:48
  that
• 4:48
  to
• 4:49
  her.
• 4:49
  I
• 4:49
  was
• 4:49
  just
• 4:49
  thinking,
• 4:50
  she's
• 4:50
  like,
• 4:50
  you
• 4:50
  have
• 4:50
  a
• 4:50
  store.
• 4:51
  You're
• 4:51
  back
• 4:51
  in
• 4:51
  the
• 4:52
  art
• 4:52
  field
• 4:52
  again.
• 4:53
  Like,
• 4:53
  look
• 4:53
  at
• 4:53
  you.
• 4:54
  It
• 4:54
  kind
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  came
• 4:54
  back
• 4:54
  to
• 4:54
  what
• 4:55
  you
• 4:55
  really,
• 4:55
  really
• 4:56
  wanted
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  do.
• 4:57
  Aw.
• 4:57
  So
• 4:58
  I
• 4:58
  thought
• 4:58
  that
• 4:58
  was
• 4:58
  amazing.
• 4:59
  I've
• 4:59
  always
• 4:59
  seen
• 5:00
  myself
• 5:00
  as
• 5:00
  a
• 5:00
  bit
• 5:01
  of
• 5:01
  a
• 5:01
  failure
• 5:01
  in
• 5:02
  that
• 5:02
  way.
• 5:02
  Oh,
• 5:02
  interesting.
• 5:04
  And
• 5:05
  for
• 5:05
  someone
• 5:05
  else.
• 5:06
  And
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  hope
• 5:06
  I
• 5:06
  helped
• 5:07
  her.
• 5:07
  She
• 5:07
  said
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  gave
• 5:07
  her
• 5:08
  some,
• 5:08
  you
• 5:09
  know,
• 5:09
  confidence
• 5:10
  and,
• 5:10
  like,
• 5:11
  it's
• 5:11
  okay.
• 5:12
  Because
• 5:12
  what
• 5:13
  she
• 5:13
  had
• 5:13
  done
• 5:13
  is
• 5:13
  she
• 5:14
  had
• 5:14
  tried
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  go
• 5:14
  out
• 5:14
  to
• 5:14
  LA
• 5:14
  and
• 5:15
  become
• 5:15
  an
• 5:15
  actor.
• 5:15
  She's
• 5:15
  like,
• 5:15
  I
• 5:15
  tried
• 5:16
  to
• 5:16
  do
• 5:16
  the
• 5:16
  whole
• 5:16
  actor
• 5:16
  thing,
• 5:17
  but
• 5:17
  unless
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  want
• 5:17
  to
• 5:17
  do,
• 5:17
  like,
• 5:18
  really
• 5:18
  crazy
• 5:19
  shit
• 5:21
  or,
• 5:21
  like,
• 5:22
  basically
• 5:22
  sell
• 5:22
  your
• 5:22
  soul.
• 5:23
  Yeah,
• 5:24
  just
• 5:24
  like,
• 5:25
  it
• 5:25
  wasn't
• 5:25
  for
• 5:25
  me.
• 5:25
  So
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  came
• 5:26
  back
• 5:26
  and
• 5:26
  I
• 5:26
  think
• 5:26
  that
• 5:27
  she
• 5:27
  has.
• 5:27
  So,
• 5:27
  like,
• 5:27
  as
• 5:27
  soon
• 5:28
  as
• 5:28
  I
• 5:28
  asked
• 5:28
  her,
• 5:29
  where'd
• 5:29
  you
• 5:30
  go
• 5:30
  to
• 5:30
  school?
• 5:30
  And
• 5:30
  she
• 5:30
  just
• 5:30
  got
• 5:30
  so
• 5:31
  embarrassed,
• 5:31
  I
• 5:31
  was
• 5:31
  like,
• 5:32
  yeah,
• 5:32
  that's
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  society
• 5:33
  question,
• 5:33
  I
• 5:34
  suppose.
• 5:34
  But
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  never
• 5:35
  asked
• 5:35
  people
• 5:36
  where
• 5:36
  they
• 5:36
  go
• 5:36
  to
• 5:36
  school.
• 5:37
  I'm
• 5:37
  so
• 5:37
  glad
• 5:37
  that
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  don't,
• 5:38
  because.
• 5:38
  I
• 5:39
  didn't
• 5:39
  go
• 5:39
  to
• 5:40
  school.
• 5:40
  And
• 5:40
  so
• 5:41
  actually
• 5:42
  a
• 5:42
  lot
• 5:42
  of
• 5:42
  times
• 5:42
  when
• 5:44
  people
• 5:45
  are
• 5:45
  like.
• 5:46
  When
• 5:47
  women
• 5:47
  are
• 5:47
  like,
• 5:48
  oh,
• 5:48
  I
• 5:49
  don't
• 5:49
  feel
• 5:49
  like
• 5:49
  I
• 5:49
  can
• 5:49
  do
• 5:50
  anything.
• 5:50
  Like,
• 5:50
  I'm
• 5:50
  stuck
• 5:50
  at
• 5:50
  this
• 5:51
  job
• 5:52
  and
• 5:52
  there's
• 5:53
  really
• 5:53
  no
• 5:53
  up
• 5:53
  for
• 5:53
  me.
• 5:54
  I'm
• 5:54
  like,
• 5:54
  why?
• 5:54
  And
• 5:55
  they're
• 5:55
  like,
• 5:55
  well,
• 5:55
  I
• 5:55
  didn't
• 5:55
  go
• 5:55
  to
• 5:56
  school.
• 5:56
  And
• 5:56
  I'm
• 5:56
  like,
• 5:57
  okay,
• 5:58
  I've
• 5:58
  ran
• 5:59
  a
• 5:59
  vet
• 5:59
  clinic.
• 5:59
  I've
• 6:00
  ran
• 6:00
  a
• 6:00
  pet
• 6:00
  resort.
• 6:01
  I
• 6:02
  didn't
• 6:02
  go
• 6:02
  to
• 6:02
  school
• 6:02
  to
• 6:03
  be
• 6:03
  a
• 6:03
  technician,
• 6:03
  but
• 6:03
  I
• 6:04
  sure
• 6:04
  was
• 6:04
  a
• 6:04
  vet
• 6:04
  tech.
• 6:05
  Like,
• 6:06
  you
• 6:06
  don't
• 6:06
  have
• 6:07
  to.
• 6:07
  You're
• 6:07
  right.
• 6:07
  You
• 6:08
  just
• 6:08
  have
• 6:08
  to
• 6:08
  have
• 6:08
  the
• 6:08
  confidence
• 6:09
  to
• 6:09
  put
• 6:10
  yourself
• 6:10
  in
• 6:10
  the
• 6:10
  situation
• 6:11
  and
• 6:11
  see
• 6:11
  where
• 6:11
  it
• 6:12
  goes.
• 6:12
  You're
• 6:12
  right.
• 6:13
  Because,
• 6:13
  I
• 6:13
  mean,
• 6:14
  sure,
• 6:15
  there
• 6:15
  are
• 6:15
  there
• 6:15
  companies
• 6:16
  that
• 6:16
  require
• 6:16
  that.
• 6:16
  Bachelor's
• 6:17
  or
• 6:17
  master's
• 6:18
  or
• 6:18
  whatever.
• 6:18
  Like,
• 6:19
  yeah,
• 6:19
  yeah,
• 6:20
  you
• 6:20
  do
• 6:20
  have
• 6:20
  to
• 6:20
  have,
• 6:21
  like,
• 6:21
  if
• 6:21
  you're
• 6:21
  going
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  be
• 6:21
  a
• 6:22
  surgeon,
• 6:22
  obviously.
• 6:23
  Sure,
• 6:23
  sure.
• 6:24
  But
• 6:24
  you're
• 6:25
  right.
• 6:25
  Like,
• 6:25
  you
• 6:26
  don't
• 6:26
  have
• 6:26
  to.
• 6:26
  And
• 6:26
  it's
• 6:27
  not
• 6:27
  for
• 6:27
  everybody.
• 6:28
  Like,
• 6:28
  even
• 6:29
  my
• 6:29
  sister,
• 6:29
  she
• 6:29
  decided
• 6:30
  she
• 6:30
  did
• 6:30
  go
• 6:30
  to
• 6:31
  school
• 6:31
  and
• 6:31
  get
• 6:32
  certified
• 6:32
  to
• 6:32
  be
• 6:32
  the
• 6:32
  cn.
• 6:33
  Cna.
• 6:35
  She
• 6:36
  now
• 6:36
  hates
• 6:37
  her
• 6:37
  job,
• 6:37
  she's
• 6:37
  tired
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  it,
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  now
• 6:39
  she
• 6:39
  wants
• 6:39
  to
• 6:39
  be
• 6:39
  a
• 6:39
  mortician.
• 6:40
  And
• 6:41
  so
• 6:41
  somebody
• 6:42
  who
• 6:42
  wanted
• 6:42
  to
• 6:42
  do.
• 6:42
  Really?
• 6:43
  Yeah.
• 6:43
  Now
• 6:43
  she
• 6:43
  wants
• 6:44
  to
• 6:44
  be
• 6:44
  a
• 6:44
  mortician.
• 6:44
  And
• 6:45
  so
• 6:45
  yet
• 6:45
  again,
• 6:46
  she
• 6:47
  found
• 6:47
  a
• 6:47
  place
• 6:48
  that
• 6:48
  is
• 6:48
  going
• 6:48
  to
• 6:49
  train
• 6:49
  her
• 6:49
  and
• 6:50
  certify
• 6:50
  her
• 6:50
  without
• 6:51
  actual
• 6:51
  schooling.
• 6:52
  So
• 6:52
  it's
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:53
  once
• 6:54
  you
• 6:54
  just
• 6:54
  have
• 6:54
  an
• 6:55
  idea
• 6:55
  of
• 6:55
  something
• 6:55
  that
• 6:55
  you
• 6:56
  think
• 6:56
  you
• 6:56
  want
• 6:56
  to
• 6:56
  do,
• 6:56
  just
• 6:57
  do
• 6:57
  it.
• 6:57
  Okay.
• 6:57
  Like,
• 6:58
  just
• 6:58
  try.
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  agree
• 6:59
  with
• 6:59
  you.
• 6:59
  I
• 7:00
  feel
• 7:00
  like
• 7:00
  we
• 7:00
  just
• 7:01
  have
• 7:01
  too
• 7:01
  many
• 7:01
  people
• 7:02
  telling
• 7:02
  us
• 7:02
  how
• 7:02
  life
• 7:03
  should.
• 7:03
  Look,
• 7:04
  and
• 7:04
  no
• 7:04
  one's
• 7:04
  going
• 7:04
  to
• 7:04
  hire
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  if
• 7:05
  you're
• 7:05
  not
• 7:05
  an
• 7:06
  educated
• 7:07
  Individual.
• 7:08
  Yeah.
• 7:08
  So
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  just
• 7:09
  want
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  throw
• 7:09
  out,
• 7:09
  like,
• 7:10
  hey,
• 7:10
  honestly,
• 7:10
  in
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  end,
• 7:11
  for
• 7:11
  me,
• 7:11
  it
• 7:11
  came
• 7:11
  full
• 7:12
  circle.
• 7:12
  I'm
• 7:13
  not
• 7:13
  an
• 7:13
  artist,
• 7:14
  but
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  am
• 7:15
  an
• 7:15
  artist.
• 7:16
  And
• 7:16
  that
• 7:16
  this
• 7:17
  is
• 7:17
  fabric
• 7:17
  arts.
• 7:18
  So
• 7:19
  it's
• 7:19
  like,
• 7:19
  just
• 7:19
  kind
• 7:19
  of
• 7:20
  play
• 7:20
  with
• 7:20
  things,
• 7:20
  Play
• 7:21
  with
• 7:21
  what
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  enjoy.
• 7:22
  And
• 7:22
  it's
• 7:23
  actually
• 7:23
  kind
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  funny
• 7:23
  that
• 7:23
  you
• 7:24
  told
• 7:24
  this
• 7:24
  story.
• 7:25
  And
• 7:25
  this
• 7:25
  is
• 7:25
  not
• 7:26
  where
• 7:26
  I
• 7:26
  was
• 7:26
  going
• 7:26
  to
• 7:26
  go,
• 7:27
  but
• 7:28
  Simon
• 7:28
  and
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  were
• 7:28
  on
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  date
• 7:30
  the
• 7:31
  other
• 7:31
  day,
• 7:32
  and
• 7:32
  I
• 7:32
  went
• 7:32
  on
• 7:33
  this
• 7:33
  tangent
• 7:33
  about
• 7:34
  how
• 7:35
  I
• 7:35
  think
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  school
• 7:36
  system
• 7:38
  isn't
• 7:38
  where
• 7:39
  it
• 7:39
  should
• 7:39
  be.
• 7:39
  Yes.
• 7:40
  And
• 7:41
  that
• 7:42
  it's
• 7:42
  not
• 7:43
  setting
• 7:44
  kids
• 7:44
  up
• 7:44
  to
• 7:45
  succeed
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  life
• 7:45
  and
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  know
• 7:47
  what
• 7:48
  they're
• 7:48
  supposed
• 7:48
  to
• 7:48
  do,
• 7:49
  where
• 7:49
  they're
• 7:49
  supposed
• 7:50
  to
• 7:50
  be,
• 7:50
  and
• 7:51
  just
• 7:52
  how
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  find
• 7:53
  themselves.
• 7:53
  They're
• 7:53
  teaching
• 7:54
  kids
• 7:54
  to
• 7:54
  tests
• 7:55
  instead
• 7:56
  of
• 7:56
  teaching
• 7:56
  the
• 7:56
  kids.
• 7:57
  Yeah,
• 7:58
  yeah.
• 7:58
  Because.
• 7:59
  Lots
• 7:59
  of
• 7:59
  reasons,
• 7:59
  but.
• 8:00
  Okay.
• 8:00
  And
• 8:01
  so
• 8:01
  we're
• 8:01
  at
• 8:01
  the
• 8:01
  restaurant,
• 8:02
  and
• 8:02
  I'm
• 8:02
  going
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  this
• 8:02
  tangent.
• 8:03
  And
• 8:03
  so
• 8:03
  Simon
• 8:03
  stopped
• 8:04
  our
• 8:04
  waitress,
• 8:04
  and
• 8:05
  he
• 8:05
  was
• 8:05
  like,
• 8:05
  can
• 8:05
  you
• 8:05
  sit
• 8:05
  down
• 8:06
  with
• 8:06
  us?
• 8:06
  Like,
• 8:06
  I
• 8:06
  got
• 8:06
  a
• 8:07
  question.
• 8:07
  I
• 8:07
  was
• 8:07
  like,
• 8:07
  oh,
• 8:08
  dear
• 8:08
  God,
• 8:08
  where
• 8:08
  are
• 8:08
  you
• 8:08
  going
• 8:08
  with
• 8:09
  this?
• 8:09
  And
• 8:09
  so.
• 8:10
  So
• 8:10
  she
• 8:10
  sits
• 8:10
  down,
• 8:11
  and
• 8:12
  he
• 8:12
  was
• 8:12
  like,
• 8:14
  have
• 8:15
  you
• 8:15
  been
• 8:15
  to
• 8:15
  school?
• 8:16
  And
• 8:16
  she
• 8:16
  was
• 8:16
  like,
• 8:17
  no,
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  don't.
• 8:18
  No,
• 8:18
  I
• 8:19
  don't
• 8:19
  want
• 8:19
  to
• 8:19
  go
• 8:19
  into
• 8:19
  school
• 8:20
  until
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  know
• 8:20
  what
• 8:20
  I
• 8:20
  want
• 8:21
  to
• 8:21
  do,
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  I
• 8:21
  don't
• 8:21
  know
• 8:21
  what
• 8:22
  I
• 8:22
  want
• 8:22
  to
• 8:22
  do.
• 8:22
  And
• 8:23
  so
• 8:23
  he
• 8:23
  was
• 8:23
  like,
• 8:24
  okay,
• 8:25
  well,
• 8:26
  why
• 8:27
  do
• 8:27
  you
• 8:27
  feel
• 8:27
  like
• 8:28
  school
• 8:28
  has
• 8:28
  to
• 8:29
  be
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  find
• 8:31
  out
• 8:31
  what
• 8:31
  you
• 8:31
  want
• 8:31
  to
• 8:31
  do?
• 8:32
  And
• 8:32
  she
• 8:33
  was
• 8:33
  like,
• 8:33
  well,
• 8:34
  I
• 8:34
  don't
• 8:34
  know,
• 8:35
  but
• 8:35
  I
• 8:35
  know
• 8:36
  I
• 8:36
  don't
• 8:36
  want
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  waste
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  money
• 8:36
  to
• 8:37
  figure
• 8:37
  out
• 8:37
  what
• 8:37
  I
• 8:37
  want
• 8:37
  to
• 8:38
  do.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  he
• 8:38
  was
• 8:38
  like,
• 8:39
  myself
• 8:40
  and
• 8:40
  my
• 8:40
  friend
• 8:40
  went
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  school,
• 8:42
  realized
• 8:43
  that
• 8:43
  what
• 8:43
  we
• 8:44
  were
• 8:44
  in
• 8:44
  school
• 8:44
  for
• 8:44
  isn't
• 8:45
  what
• 8:45
  we
• 8:45
  wanted,
• 8:46
  dropped
• 8:46
  out,
• 8:46
  and
• 8:47
  neither.
• 8:47
  Neither
• 8:48
  of
• 8:48
  us
• 8:48
  are
• 8:48
  in
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  field
• 8:48
  that
• 8:49
  we
• 8:49
  went
• 8:49
  to
• 8:49
  school
• 8:49
  for
• 8:50
  and
• 8:50
  didn't
• 8:50
  go
• 8:50
  back
• 8:51
  to
• 8:51
  school.
• 8:51
  And
• 8:52
  we
• 8:52
  make
• 8:53
  great
• 8:53
  money.
• 8:54
  Yeah,
• 8:55
  right.
• 8:56
  And
• 8:56
  so
• 8:56
  she
• 8:56
  was
• 8:56
  like,
• 8:56
  oh,
• 8:57
  that's
• 8:57
  interesting.
• 8:58
  That's
• 8:59
  so
• 8:59
  crazy
• 8:59
  that
• 8:59
  we
• 9:00
  both
• 9:00
  had.
• 9:00
  That
• 9:00
  experience
• 9:01
  this
• 9:01
  week.
• 9:01
  Oh,
• 9:02
  yeah,
• 9:02
  that
• 9:03
  is
• 9:03
  interesting.
• 9:04
  How
• 9:04
  did
• 9:04
  you
• 9:04
  feel
• 9:05
  when
• 9:05
  you
• 9:05
  ended
• 9:05
  the
• 9:05
  conversation
• 9:06
  with
• 9:06
  her
• 9:07
  and
• 9:08
  watching
• 9:09
  their.
• 9:10
  My
• 9:11
  tangent
• 9:11
  about
• 9:12
  school
• 9:13
  ended
• 9:13
  up
• 9:14
  turning
• 9:14
  into
• 9:15
  a
• 9:15
  you
• 9:16
  don't
• 9:16
  need
• 9:16
  school
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  be
• 9:17
  successful,
• 9:17
  and
• 9:17
  blah,
• 9:18
  blah,
• 9:18
  blah.
• 9:18
  I
• 9:18
  was
• 9:19
  like,
• 9:19
  school
• 9:19
  doesn't
• 9:19
  teach
• 9:20
  you
• 9:20
  how
• 9:21
  to.
• 9:21
  Well,
• 9:22
  and
• 9:22
  then
• 9:22
  I
• 9:22
  went
• 9:22
  into
• 9:22
  my
• 9:22
  tangent
• 9:23
  about
• 9:23
  how
• 9:24
  Logan
• 9:24
  just
• 9:24
  had
• 9:24
  a
• 9:25
  project
• 9:25
  that
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  had
• 9:26
  to
• 9:26
  do
• 9:27
  when
• 9:27
  I
• 9:28
  was
• 9:28
  in
• 9:28
  middle
• 9:28
  school,
• 9:29
  and
• 9:29
  I
• 9:29
  think
• 9:29
  the
• 9:30
  project
• 9:30
  is
• 9:30
  really
• 9:30
  fucking
• 9:31
  backwards
• 9:32
  because
• 9:32
  the
• 9:32
  project
• 9:32
  is
• 9:33
  you
• 9:33
  create
• 9:34
  a
• 9:34
  town,
• 9:35
  you
• 9:35
  decide
• 9:36
  where
• 9:36
  geographically
• 9:37
  it
• 9:37
  is,
• 9:37
  you
• 9:38
  decide
• 9:38
  what
• 9:38
  kind
• 9:38
  of
• 9:39
  government
• 9:39
  they
• 9:40
  have.
• 9:40
  You
• 9:40
  decide
• 9:41
  what
• 9:41
  the
• 9:41
  minimum
• 9:42
  wage
• 9:42
  is
• 9:42
  and
• 9:42
  how.
• 9:43
  Like,
• 9:43
  the
• 9:43
  prominent
• 9:44
  jobs
• 9:44
  and
• 9:44
  stuff.
• 9:46
  That
• 9:46
  doesn't
• 9:46
  fucking
• 9:47
  make
• 9:47
  sense
• 9:47
  to
• 9:47
  me.
• 9:48
  Because
• 9:49
  if
• 9:50
  the
• 9:50
  project
• 9:51
  was.
• 9:53
  Here
• 9:53
  is
• 9:53
  a
• 9:54
  town
• 9:55
  in
• 9:55
  this
• 9:56
  area.
• 9:56
  This
• 9:56
  is
• 9:57
  the
• 9:57
  minimum
• 9:57
  wage.
• 9:57
  These
• 9:58
  are
• 9:58
  their
• 9:58
  parameters.
• 9:58
  These
• 9:58
  are
• 9:59
  the
• 9:59
  jobs,
• 10:00
  and
• 10:00
  this
• 10:00
  is
• 10:00
  how
• 10:01
  much
• 10:01
  living
• 10:02
  cost,
• 10:02
  groceries
• 10:03
  cost.
• 10:04
  Tell
• 10:04
  us
• 10:04
  how
• 10:04
  you
• 10:05
  live.
• 10:05
  Like,
• 10:05
  and,
• 10:06
  like,
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  town
• 10:06
  is
• 10:06
  already
• 10:07
  broken
• 10:07
  up
• 10:07
  into,
• 10:08
  like,
• 10:08
  divisions,
• 10:09
  you
• 10:09
  know,
• 10:09
  like
• 10:10
  financial
• 10:10
  divisions.
• 10:11
  Like,
• 10:11
  you
• 10:11
  know,
• 10:11
  oh,
• 10:12
  the
• 10:12
  people
• 10:12
  who
• 10:12
  make
• 10:12
  more
• 10:12
  money
• 10:13
  live
• 10:13
  here
• 10:13
  and
• 10:13
  stuff.
• 10:14
  So,
• 10:14
  like,
• 10:14
  giving
• 10:15
  them
• 10:15
  all
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  parameters
• 10:16
  and
• 10:16
  saying,
• 10:17
  now
• 10:17
  live.
• 10:17
  And,
• 10:18
  like,
• 10:18
  think
• 10:18
  outside
• 10:18
  the
• 10:19
  box.
• 10:19
  Like,
• 10:19
  what
• 10:19
  about
• 10:19
  the
• 10:19
  person
• 10:20
  across
• 10:20
  town?
• 10:21
  What
• 10:21
  about
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  person
• 10:22
  who
• 10:22
  has
• 10:22
  this.
• 10:23
  Yeah,
• 10:23
  I'm
• 10:23
  with
• 10:23
  you.
• 10:24
  So
• 10:24
  then
• 10:24
  you're
• 10:24
  learning
• 10:25
  how
• 10:26
  to
• 10:26
  think.
• 10:26
  About
• 10:27
  budgeting,
• 10:27
  critical
• 10:27
  thinking.
• 10:28
  Yeah.
• 10:28
  Not
• 10:29
  just,
• 10:29
  like,
• 10:29
  it.
• 10:30
  Making
• 10:30
  up
• 10:30
  imaginary
• 10:31
  stuff
• 10:31
  like
• 10:31
  that
• 10:31
  doesn't
• 10:31
  mean
• 10:32
  sense
• 10:32
  to
• 10:32
  me.
• 10:32
  Right.
• 10:32
  Yeah,
• 10:32
  of
• 10:33
  course.
• 10:33
  My
• 10:33
  town's
• 10:33
  amazing.
• 10:34
  Everyone
• 10:34
  makes
• 10:35
  $15
• 10:35
  an
• 10:35
  hour,
• 10:36
  minimum
• 10:36
  wage,
• 10:36
  and
• 10:37
  everybody's,
• 10:37
  like,
• 10:38
  so
• 10:38
  happy
• 10:38
  on
• 10:38
  the
• 10:38
  weekends
• 10:39
  and
• 10:39
  playing
• 10:39
  in
• 10:39
  the
• 10:40
  park.
• 10:40
  Yeah.
• 10:41
  Yeah.
• 10:41
  It's
• 10:42
  interesting.
• 10:42
  So.
• 10:43
  But
• 10:45
  yeah,
• 10:45
  I
• 10:45
  don't
• 10:45
  even
• 10:45
  think
• 10:46
  I
• 10:46
  need
• 10:46
  to
• 10:46
  go
• 10:46
  into
• 10:46
  a
• 10:46
  field.
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  think
• 10:47
  that's.
• 10:48
  Yeah.
• 10:48
  Thank
• 10:48
  you.
• 10:48
  Okay.
• 10:49
  Yeah,
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  like
• 10:50
  it.
• 10:51
  So
• 10:52
  let's
• 10:52
  get
• 10:52
  into
• 10:53
  the
• 10:53
  guests
• 10:53
  that
• 10:54
  we
• 10:54
  have
• 10:54
  with
• 10:54
  us
• 10:55
  today.
• 10:55
  That's
• 10:55
  right.
• 10:56
  Let's
• 10:56
  do
• 10:56
  this.
• 10:56
  Welcome.
• 10:57
  Thank
• 10:57
  you.
• 10:58
  So.
• 10:58
  Okay,
• 10:58
  let
• 10:58
  me
• 10:59
  just
• 10:59
  kind
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  introduce
• 11:00
  Brad.
• 11:00
  Yeah.
• 11:00
  We
• 11:00
  have
• 11:01
  been
• 11:01
  friends
• 11:01
  for
• 11:01
  a
• 11:01
  long
• 11:01
  time.
• 11:02
  Yeah,
• 11:03
  right.
• 11:03
  I
• 11:04
  remember
• 11:04
  you
• 11:04
  used
• 11:04
  to
• 11:04
  sit
• 11:04
  down
• 11:04
  and
• 11:05
  play
• 11:05
  the
• 11:05
  guitar
• 11:05
  for
• 11:05
  us
• 11:06
  in
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  living
• 11:06
  room
• 11:06
  when
• 11:06
  we.
• 11:07
  When
• 11:07
  I
• 11:07
  lived
• 11:07
  back
• 11:08
  in
• 11:08
  Texas.
• 11:09
  You
• 11:09
  were
• 11:09
  in
• 11:09
  a
• 11:09
  band
• 11:10
  at
• 11:10
  one
• 11:10
  point.
• 11:12
  Now
• 11:12
  you've
• 11:13
  actually
• 11:13
  gone
• 11:13
  to
• 11:14
  school
• 11:14
  and
• 11:14
  graduated
• 11:15
  as
• 11:15
  a
• 11:15
  musical
• 11:15
  therapist.
• 11:16
  Can
• 11:16
  you
• 11:16
  tell
• 11:16
  us
• 11:17
  a
• 11:17
  little
• 11:17
  bit
• 11:17
  about
• 11:18
  your
• 11:18
  history,
• 11:19
  where
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  came
• 11:20
  from,
• 11:21
  what
• 11:21
  you
• 11:22
  got?
• 11:22
  You
• 11:22
  kind
• 11:22
  of,
• 11:22
  like,
• 11:22
  into
• 11:23
  that.
• 11:23
  Yeah,
• 11:24
  sure.
• 11:24
  All
• 11:25
  right.
• 11:25
  So
• 11:25
  my
• 11:25
  name's
• 11:25
  Brad.
• 11:26
  I
• 11:26
  was
• 11:26
  born
• 11:27
  in
• 11:27
  Seattle.
• 11:27
  That's
• 11:27
  where
• 11:28
  we
• 11:28
  started.
• 11:28
  So
• 11:29
  I'm
• 11:29
  from
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  grunge
• 11:30
  city.
• 11:30
  This
• 11:30
  will
• 11:30
  come
• 11:30
  in.
• 11:30
  Play
• 11:31
  later.
• 11:32
  Okay.
• 11:32
  My
• 11:33
  parents
• 11:33
  were
• 11:33
  missionary,
• 11:34
  so
• 11:34
  when
• 11:34
  I
• 11:34
  was
• 11:34
  four,
• 11:34
  we
• 11:34
  moved
• 11:35
  to
• 11:35
  Austria,
• 11:36
  and
• 11:37
  we
• 11:37
  just
• 11:37
  kind
• 11:38
  of
• 11:38
  traveled
• 11:38
  around
• 11:38
  the
• 11:38
  country
• 11:39
  every
• 11:39
  few
• 11:40
  years,
• 11:40
  and
• 11:40
  we'd
• 11:40
  start
• 11:40
  new
• 11:40
  churches,
• 11:41
  communities
• 11:41
  and
• 11:41
  do
• 11:42
  some
• 11:42
  outreach
• 11:42
  work
• 11:42
  and
• 11:43
  stuff
• 11:43
  like
• 11:43
  that.
• 11:44
  And
• 11:44
  my
• 11:44
  mom
• 11:45
  was
• 11:45
  always
• 11:45
  the.
• 11:47
  I
• 11:47
  guess,
• 11:47
  the
• 11:47
  music
• 11:48
  minister
• 11:49
  for
• 11:50
  all
• 11:50
  of
• 11:50
  the
• 11:51
  work
• 11:51
  that
• 11:51
  we
• 11:51
  did.
• 11:51
  So
• 11:51
  we.
• 11:51
  I
• 11:52
  was
• 11:52
  always
• 11:52
  kind
• 11:52
  of
• 11:52
  musically
• 11:53
  influenced.
• 11:53
  My.
• 11:54
  My
• 11:54
  mom
• 11:54
  and
• 11:54
  her
• 11:55
  brothers
• 11:55
  actually
• 11:55
  had
• 11:55
  a
• 11:55
  band
• 11:56
  or
• 11:56
  a
• 11:56
  group
• 11:57
  growing
• 11:57
  up.
• 11:57
  When
• 11:57
  they
• 11:57
  were
• 11:57
  kids,
• 11:58
  they
• 11:58
  were
• 11:58
  called
• 11:58
  Three
• 11:58
  Hits
• 11:59
  and
• 11:59
  a
• 11:59
  Miss.
• 12:00
  That's
• 12:00
  adorable.
• 12:01
  Yeah.
• 12:01
  She
• 12:01
  had
• 12:02
  three
• 12:02
  brothers,
• 12:02
  and
• 12:02
  it
• 12:02
  hurt.
• 12:03
  Three
• 12:03
  brothers.
• 12:04
  Okay.
• 12:04
  Got.
• 12:05
  Okay.
• 12:05
  That's
• 12:05
  adorable.
• 12:06
  That
• 12:06
  is
• 12:06
  so
• 12:07
  fun.
• 12:07
  Now
• 12:08
  just
• 12:08
  a
• 12:08
  second.
• 12:08
  When
• 12:08
  you
• 12:09
  say
• 12:09
  that
• 12:10
  your
• 12:10
  parents
• 12:10
  were
• 12:11
  missionaries,
• 12:11
  did
• 12:11
  you
• 12:11
  guys.
• 12:12
  Were
• 12:12
  you
• 12:12
  guys
• 12:12
  part
• 12:13
  of
• 12:13
  the
• 12:13
  same
• 12:13
  type
• 12:14
  of
• 12:14
  church?
• 12:14
  No.
• 12:15
  Okay.
• 12:15
  No,
• 12:16
  we
• 12:16
  were
• 12:16
  Baptist
• 12:16
  missionaries.
• 12:17
  We
• 12:17
  worked
• 12:17
  for
• 12:18
  a
• 12:18
  separate
• 12:19
  organization
• 12:20
  called
• 12:20
  the
• 12:20
  Foreign
• 12:21
  Mission
• 12:21
  Board,
• 12:21
  so.
• 12:22
  Gotcha.
• 12:23
  Yeah.
• 12:24
  I
• 12:24
  didn't
• 12:24
  know
• 12:24
  that
• 12:24
  you
• 12:24
  guys,
• 12:25
  like,
• 12:25
  actually
• 12:25
  went
• 12:26
  around
• 12:26
  and
• 12:26
  started
• 12:26
  churches
• 12:27
  in
• 12:27
  new
• 12:27
  cities.
• 12:27
  So
• 12:27
  you,
• 12:27
  like,
• 12:28
  not
• 12:28
  just
• 12:28
  lived
• 12:29
  in
• 12:29
  Austria,
• 12:29
  but
• 12:29
  you
• 12:30
  moved
• 12:30
  a
• 12:30
  lot
• 12:30
  in
• 12:30
  Austria
• 12:31
  itself.
• 12:31
  Like,
• 12:33
  was
• 12:33
  it
• 12:33
  hard
• 12:33
  to
• 12:33
  find
• 12:34
  roots
• 12:34
  when
• 12:34
  you
• 12:34
  were
• 12:34
  over
• 12:34
  there,
• 12:35
  or
• 12:35
  did
• 12:35
  you
• 12:35
  feel
• 12:35
  pretty.
• 12:36
  It
• 12:37
  was.
• 12:37
  Yeah,
• 12:37
  because
• 12:38
  it
• 12:38
  was
• 12:38
  usually
• 12:38
  about
• 12:38
  three
• 12:39
  to
• 12:39
  four
• 12:39
  years.
• 12:39
  We
• 12:39
  would
• 12:40
  move
• 12:40
  somebody
• 12:40
  somewhere
• 12:40
  else,
• 12:41
  and
• 12:41
  it
• 12:41
  just,
• 12:42
  you
• 12:42
  know,
• 12:42
  mentally
• 12:43
  speaking,
• 12:43
  from
• 12:43
  a
• 12:43
  timeline,
• 12:44
  like,
• 12:44
  I
• 12:44
  was
• 12:44
  four
• 12:44
  when
• 12:45
  we
• 12:45
  went
• 12:45
  there.
• 12:45
  So,
• 12:45
  like,
• 12:45
  you
• 12:46
  know,
• 12:46
  that's
• 12:46
  big
• 12:48
  pivotal
• 12:48
  point
• 12:48
  in
• 12:49
  your.
• 12:49
  Your,
• 12:50
  you
• 12:50
  know,
• 12:50
  childhood.
• 12:51
  And
• 12:51
  when
• 12:51
  we
• 12:51
  came
• 12:51
  back,
• 12:52
  I
• 12:52
  was
• 12:52
  16,
• 12:52
  so
• 12:52
  I
• 12:53
  was
• 12:53
  rough.
• 12:53
  Moving
• 12:53
  around,
• 12:54
  leaving
• 12:55
  friends,
• 12:56
  getting
• 12:56
  new
• 12:56
  friends.
• 12:57
  It
• 12:57
  was
• 12:57
  a
• 12:57
  constant
• 12:58
  transition.
• 12:58
  So
• 12:59
  it
• 12:59
  was
• 12:59
  a
• 12:59
  little
• 12:59
  bit
• 13:00
  difficult
• 13:00
  and
• 13:00
  kind
• 13:00
  of
• 13:00
  followed
• 13:01
  me
• 13:01
  into
• 13:02
  to
• 13:02
  adulthood.
• 13:03
  Like,
• 13:03
  I
• 13:03
  had
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  have
• 13:04
  this
• 13:05
  habit
• 13:05
  of
• 13:05
  moving
• 13:05
  around,
• 13:06
  starting
• 13:06
  over,
• 13:07
  you
• 13:08
  know.
• 13:08
  I
• 13:08
  did,
• 13:09
  too.
• 13:09
  Yeah,
• 13:09
  same.
• 13:10
  Let's
• 13:10
  look
• 13:10
  at
• 13:11
  this
• 13:11
  little
• 13:11
  trio.
• 13:12
  I
• 13:12
  know.
• 13:14
  So
• 13:15
  three
• 13:15
  hits
• 13:15
  and
• 13:15
  a
• 13:15
  miss.
• 13:16
  Three
• 13:16
  hits
• 13:16
  and
• 13:16
  a
• 13:16
  miss.
• 13:16
  So,
• 13:17
  yeah,
• 13:17
  I
• 13:17
  grew
• 13:17
  up
• 13:17
  kind
• 13:17
  of
• 13:17
  musically.
• 13:21
  Did
• 13:21
  she
• 13:21
  play
• 13:21
  an
• 13:22
  instrument?
• 13:22
  Yeah,
• 13:22
  she
• 13:23
  plays
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  piano.
• 13:24
  And
• 13:24
  that's
• 13:24
  what
• 13:24
  my.
• 13:25
  Yeah,
• 13:25
  she
• 13:25
  started
• 13:26
  me
• 13:26
  off
• 13:26
  with
• 13:27
  as
• 13:27
  a
• 13:27
  kid.
• 13:28
  I
• 13:28
  didn't
• 13:28
  like
• 13:28
  it.
• 13:28
  I
• 13:29
  still
• 13:29
  don't
• 13:29
  like
• 13:29
  it.
• 13:30
  So
• 13:31
  is
• 13:31
  your
• 13:31
  mom
• 13:31
  the
• 13:31
  one
• 13:32
  who
• 13:32
  got
• 13:32
  you
• 13:33
  into
• 13:34
  instruments?
• 13:35
  She
• 13:36
  wanted
• 13:36
  me
• 13:36
  to
• 13:36
  get
• 13:36
  into
• 13:37
  the
• 13:37
  piano.
• 13:40
  She.
• 13:41
  I'm
• 13:41
  not
• 13:42
  exactly
• 13:42
  sure
• 13:42
  how
• 13:42
  this
• 13:42
  one
• 13:43
  happened,
• 13:43
  but
• 13:43
  I
• 13:43
  also
• 13:44
  played
• 13:44
  violin
• 13:44
  when
• 13:44
  I
• 13:45
  was
• 13:45
  a
• 13:45
  kid,
• 13:45
  and
• 13:45
  I
• 13:45
  would.
• 13:45
  Ended
• 13:46
  up
• 13:46
  going
• 13:46
  to
• 13:46
  a
• 13:46
  music
• 13:47
  school
• 13:47
  for
• 13:47
  about
• 13:47
  a
• 13:47
  year.
• 13:49
  Yeah,
• 13:49
  it
• 13:50
  wasn't
• 13:50
  a
• 13:50
  very
• 13:50
  good
• 13:50
  fit.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:51
  like,
• 13:51
  we
• 13:51
  were
• 13:51
  in
• 13:51
  Austria,
• 13:52
  we
• 13:52
  had
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  reputation,
• 13:53
  so.
• 13:54
  Okay.
• 13:55
  First
• 13:55
  off,
• 13:55
  when
• 13:56
  we
• 13:56
  got
• 13:56
  there,
• 13:56
  we
• 13:56
  were
• 13:57
  the
• 13:57
  missionaries.
• 13:58
  They
• 13:58
  were
• 13:58
  Baptist
• 13:58
  missionaries,
• 13:58
  and
• 13:59
  it's
• 13:59
  predominantly
• 14:00
  Catholic
• 14:00
  over
• 14:00
  there,
• 14:01
  so
• 14:01
  they
• 14:02
  weren't
• 14:02
  quite
• 14:03
  fond
• 14:03
  of
• 14:03
  us
• 14:03
  being
• 14:04
  there.
• 14:04
  So,
• 14:04
  you
• 14:04
  know,
• 14:04
  we
• 14:04
  got
• 14:05
  a
• 14:05
  little.
• 14:05
  A
• 14:06
  little
• 14:06
  bullied
• 14:06
  here
• 14:06
  and
• 14:07
  there.
• 14:07
  Nothing
• 14:07
  like,
• 14:08
  too
• 14:08
  bad,
• 14:08
  but
• 14:09
  it
• 14:09
  was
• 14:09
  kind
• 14:09
  of.
• 14:10
  You
• 14:10
  could
• 14:10
  kind
• 14:10
  of
• 14:10
  tell
• 14:10
  they
• 14:10
  were
• 14:10
  like
• 14:11
  me.
• 14:12
  But,
• 14:12
  you
• 14:13
  know,
• 14:13
  over
• 14:13
  there,
• 14:14
  their
• 14:14
  disciplinary
• 14:16
  actions
• 14:16
  are
• 14:16
  in
• 14:16
  school
• 14:17
  are
• 14:17
  far
• 14:17
  different
• 14:17
  than
• 14:17
  they
• 14:17
  are
• 14:18
  here
• 14:18
  in
• 14:18
  America.
• 14:18
  So
• 14:18
  we
• 14:18
  got
• 14:19
  disciplined
• 14:19
  one
• 14:19
  day
• 14:19
  for
• 14:20
  doing
• 14:20
  something
• 14:20
  stupid,
• 14:20
  I'm
• 14:21
  sure.
• 14:21
  And
• 14:22
  my
• 14:22
  mom
• 14:22
  came
• 14:22
  into
• 14:22
  this
• 14:23
  meeting
• 14:23
  with
• 14:23
  a
• 14:23
  teacher,
• 14:24
  and
• 14:25
  it
• 14:26
  turned
• 14:26
  into
• 14:26
  a
• 14:26
  fight.
• 14:26
  Like,
• 14:27
  this
• 14:27
  is
• 14:27
  probably
• 14:27
  the
• 14:27
  first
• 14:28
  time
• 14:28
  and
• 14:28
  the
• 14:28
  last
• 14:28
  time
• 14:28
  I
• 14:28
  ever
• 14:29
  heard
• 14:29
  my
• 14:29
  mom
• 14:29
  yell
• 14:29
  at
• 14:30
  somebody,
• 14:30
  and
• 14:30
  she
• 14:30
  got
• 14:31
  really
• 14:31
  mad.
• 14:31
  Wow.
• 14:32
  And
• 14:32
  so
• 14:32
  then
• 14:32
  that
• 14:33
  reputation
• 14:33
  also
• 14:34
  followed
• 14:34
  us.
• 14:35
  So
• 14:36
  it
• 14:36
  was
• 14:36
  just
• 14:36
  like
• 14:37
  this
• 14:37
  double
• 14:37
  whammy.
• 14:37
  And
• 14:38
  she's
• 14:38
  not
• 14:38
  even
• 14:38
  like
• 14:39
  an
• 14:39
  angry
• 14:39
  person.
• 14:40
  Yeah,
• 14:40
  she's
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  sweetest
• 14:41
  person
• 14:41
  you'll
• 14:41
  ever
• 14:41
  meet.
• 14:42
  And,
• 14:42
  like,
• 14:42
  you
• 14:42
  know,
• 14:42
  we
• 14:43
  would
• 14:43
  get
• 14:43
  into
• 14:43
  fights
• 14:43
  as
• 14:44
  a
• 14:44
  teenager,
• 14:44
  and,
• 14:45
  like,
• 14:45
  I'd
• 14:45
  run
• 14:45
  away
• 14:45
  and
• 14:45
  she'd
• 14:46
  be
• 14:46
  in
• 14:46
  her
• 14:46
  car
• 14:46
  and
• 14:47
  somehow
• 14:47
  find
• 14:47
  me,
• 14:47
  and
• 14:47
  she's
• 14:47
  like,
• 14:48
  I
• 14:48
  just
• 14:48
  got
• 14:48
  donuts.
• 14:48
  You
• 14:49
  want
• 14:49
  some
• 14:49
  donuts?
• 14:49
  I'm
• 14:49
  like,
• 14:50
  yeah,
• 14:50
  I
• 14:51
  do.
• 14:52
  You
• 14:52
  know,
• 14:53
  but
• 14:53
  they're
• 14:54
  like.
• 14:54
  There's
• 14:54
  this
• 14:54
  angry
• 14:55
  Baptist
• 14:55
  missionary.
• 14:56
  Yeah,
• 14:57
  that
• 14:57
  was
• 14:57
  my
• 14:57
  dad.
• 14:58
  She'll
• 14:59
  chase
• 14:59
  you
• 14:59
  down
• 14:59
  for
• 14:59
  donuts.
• 15:00
  That's
• 15:01
  right.
• 15:01
  You
• 15:01
  will
• 15:02
  have
• 15:02
  sweets.
• 15:04
  But,
• 15:04
  yeah,
• 15:05
  so
• 15:05
  it
• 15:05
  was
• 15:05
  really
• 15:05
  sweet.
• 15:06
  No
• 15:06
  pun
• 15:06
  intended.
• 15:08
  It
• 15:08
  was
• 15:08
  a
• 15:08
  very
• 15:08
  interesting
• 15:09
  upbringing.
• 15:09
  So.
• 15:10
  But,
• 15:10
  yeah,
• 15:10
  I
• 15:10
  quit
• 15:11
  the
• 15:11
  violin.
• 15:11
  I
• 15:11
  still.
• 15:12
  I'll
• 15:12
  dabble
• 15:13
  with
• 15:13
  it
• 15:13
  every
• 15:13
  once
• 15:13
  in
• 15:13
  a
• 15:14
  while
• 15:14
  here
• 15:14
  and
• 15:14
  then,
• 15:15
  but.
• 15:16
  So,
• 15:16
  what
• 15:17
  was
• 15:17
  school
• 15:17
  like?
• 15:18
  School
• 15:18
  was
• 15:18
  rough.
• 15:20
  I.
• 15:20
  Okay,
• 15:21
  so
• 15:21
  this
• 15:21
  is.
• 15:21
  I,
• 15:22
  in
• 15:23
  general,
• 15:23
  struggled
• 15:24
  through
• 15:24
  school
• 15:25
  a
• 15:25
  lot.
• 15:25
  I
• 15:26
  later
• 15:26
  had
• 15:26
  an
• 15:27
  ADHD
• 15:27
  diagnosis
• 15:28
  at
• 15:28
  16.
• 15:29
  So
• 15:29
  growing
• 15:30
  up,
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  had
• 15:30
  a
• 15:30
  lot
• 15:30
  of
• 15:30
  tutors,
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  know,
• 15:32
  just
• 15:33
  a
• 15:33
  lot
• 15:33
  of
• 15:33
  people
• 15:34
  trying
• 15:34
  to
• 15:34
  help
• 15:34
  me
• 15:34
  to
• 15:34
  get
• 15:35
  through
• 15:35
  it.
• 15:35
  And
• 15:36
  I
• 15:36
  did.
• 15:36
  Barely.
• 15:38
  Yeah.
• 15:38
  And
• 15:39
  that
• 15:39
  was
• 15:39
  over
• 15:40
  in
• 15:40
  Austria,
• 15:41
  also
• 15:41
  here.
• 15:42
  Yeah.
• 15:43
  Yeah,
• 15:43
  a
• 15:43
  little
• 15:43
  bit
• 15:43
  of
• 15:43
  both.
• 15:45
  Things
• 15:45
  got
• 15:45
  better
• 15:46
  when
• 15:46
  I
• 15:46
  got
• 15:46
  my
• 15:46
  ADHD
• 15:47
  diagnosis.
• 15:48
  When
• 15:48
  I
• 15:48
  was.
• 15:48
  I
• 15:49
  was
• 15:49
  probably
• 15:49
  about
• 15:49
  13
• 15:49
  when
• 15:49
  I
• 15:50
  discovered
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  guitar.
• 15:51
  We
• 15:51
  always
• 15:51
  had
• 15:51
  some
• 15:51
  kind
• 15:51
  of
• 15:52
  instruments
• 15:52
  laying
• 15:52
  around
• 15:52
  the
• 15:53
  house.
• 15:54
  So
• 15:54
  I
• 15:54
  picked
• 15:54
  it
• 15:54
  up,
• 15:55
  and
• 15:55
  I
• 15:55
  remember
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  first
• 15:56
  song
• 15:56
  I
• 15:56
  ever
• 15:56
  played.
• 15:57
  I
• 15:57
  have.
• 15:57
  I
• 15:58
  found
• 15:58
  out
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  have
• 15:58
  this
• 16:00
  uncanny,
• 16:01
  like,
• 16:02
  talent,
• 16:03
  I
• 16:03
  guess
• 16:03
  you
• 16:03
  could
• 16:03
  say,
• 16:03
  to
• 16:03
  just
• 16:04
  listen
• 16:04
  to
• 16:04
  something
• 16:04
  and
• 16:05
  be
• 16:05
  able
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  play
• 16:05
  it
• 16:05
  back.
• 16:05
  And
• 16:05
  it's
• 16:06
  like,
• 16:06
  oh.
• 16:06
  So
• 16:06
  that's
• 16:06
  how
• 16:06
  I
• 16:07
  taught
• 16:07
  myself
• 16:07
  how
• 16:07
  to
• 16:08
  play
• 16:08
  the
• 16:08
  guitar.
• 16:09
  I'd
• 16:09
  put
• 16:09
  on
• 16:09
  the
• 16:09
  radio
• 16:09
  and
• 16:09
  be
• 16:10
  like,
• 16:10
  ooh,
• 16:10
  that
• 16:10
  sounds
• 16:10
  cool.
• 16:10
  So
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  just.
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  would
• 16:11
  start
• 16:12
  matching
• 16:12
  it,
• 16:12
  you
• 16:12
  know,
• 16:12
  note
• 16:12
  for
• 16:13
  note,
• 16:13
  figure
• 16:13
  out
• 16:13
  the
• 16:13
  chords,
• 16:14
  and
• 16:14
  so
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  taught
• 16:15
  myself.
• 16:15
  But
• 16:15
  the
• 16:16
  first
• 16:16
  song
• 16:18
  I
• 16:18
  taught
• 16:18
  myself
• 16:18
  how
• 16:18
  to
• 16:19
  play
• 16:19
  was
• 16:20
  To
• 16:20
  Be
• 16:20
  with
• 16:20
  you
• 16:21
  by
• 16:21
  Mr.
• 16:21
  Big.
• 16:21
  You
• 16:22
  know
• 16:22
  that
• 16:22
  one?
• 16:22
  What?
• 16:23
  No.
• 16:23
  Do
• 16:24
  you
• 16:24
  have
• 16:24
  to
• 16:24
  sing
• 16:24
  it
• 16:24
  now.
• 16:24
  To
• 16:25
  be
• 16:25
  with
• 16:25
  something
• 16:26
  like
• 16:26
  that?
• 16:26
  Yeah.
• 16:26
  Oh,
• 16:27
  yeah.
• 16:27
  It's
• 16:27
  old
• 16:27
  school,
• 16:28
  too.
• 16:28
  Remember
• 16:28
  that?
• 16:28
  Big
• 16:29
  in
• 16:29
  the
• 16:29
  90s.
• 16:29
  Yeah.
• 16:30
  Yeah.
• 16:31
  So
• 16:32
  that
• 16:32
  was
• 16:32
  my
• 16:32
  first
• 16:33
  song.
• 16:33
  And,
• 16:33
  like,
• 16:34
  after
• 16:34
  that,
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  was
• 16:34
  hooked.
• 16:35
  So.
• 16:36
  Okay.
• 16:36
  That
• 16:36
  was
• 16:37
  kind
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  my
• 16:37
  first
• 16:38
  introduction
• 16:38
  to
• 16:39
  other
• 16:39
  music.
• 16:40
  We
• 16:40
  listened
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  lot
• 16:40
  of
• 16:41
  church
• 16:41
  music
• 16:41
  and,
• 16:42
  like,
• 16:42
  Barbra
• 16:43
  Streisand,
• 16:43
  Sandy
• 16:44
  Patty,
• 16:44
  things
• 16:44
  like
• 16:44
  that.
• 16:44
  You
• 16:44
  know,
• 16:45
  like,
• 16:45
  very
• 16:45
  totally,
• 16:46
  you
• 16:46
  know,
• 16:46
  uplifting
• 16:47
  things.
• 16:47
  And
• 16:47
  when
• 16:47
  the
• 16:47
  90s
• 16:48
  came,
• 16:48
  grunge
• 16:49
  happened,
• 16:49
  and
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  was
• 16:49
  like.
• 16:50
  I
• 16:50
  remember
• 16:51
  my
• 16:51
  brother
• 16:51
  bringing
• 16:52
  home
• 16:52
  a
• 16:52
  Nirvana
• 16:53
  tape.
• 16:53
  And
• 16:53
  I
• 16:53
  was
• 16:53
  just
• 16:53
  like,
• 16:54
  oh,
• 16:54
  yeah.
• 16:54
  Mine
• 16:54
  just
• 16:55
  went.
• 16:55
  I
• 16:55
  was
• 16:55
  like
• 16:56
  this.
• 16:57
  So
• 16:58
  that
• 16:58
  was.
• 16:58
  That
• 16:58
  was
• 16:58
  kind
• 16:58
  of
• 16:58
  the
• 16:59
  Were
• 16:59
  your.
• 17:00
  Parents
• 17:00
  strict
• 17:00
  about
• 17:01
  letting
• 17:01
  you
• 17:01
  listen
• 17:01
  to
• 17:02
  outside
• 17:02
  music
• 17:03
  like
• 17:03
  that?
• 17:03
  They
• 17:03
  were,
• 17:04
  yeah.
• 17:04
  Absolutely.
• 17:05
  Mine
• 17:05
  too.
• 17:05
  Yeah.
• 17:06
  I
• 17:06
  remember
• 17:06
  going
• 17:07
  to
• 17:07
  my
• 17:07
  friend's
• 17:07
  house
• 17:07
  and
• 17:08
  listening
• 17:08
  to
• 17:08
  Nirvana
• 17:09
  on
• 17:09
  her
• 17:10
  tape
• 17:11
  deck.
• 17:11
  Yeah,
• 17:12
  yeah.
• 17:12
  I
• 17:13
  had
• 17:13
  a
• 17:15
  CD
• 17:15
  who's.
• 17:16
  I'm
• 17:16
  sure
• 17:16
  several
• 17:17
  CDs
• 17:17
  have
• 17:17
  gone
• 17:17
  missing
• 17:18
  because
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  this,
• 17:18
  but
• 17:18
  One
• 17:19
  of
• 17:19
  the
• 17:19
  CDs
• 17:19
  was
• 17:20
  extreme.
• 17:21
  The
• 17:21
  album
• 17:21
  was
• 17:21
  called
• 17:21
  Pornographiti.
• 17:22
  There
• 17:22
  was
• 17:23
  nothing
• 17:23
  really
• 17:23
  inherently
• 17:24
  pornographic
• 17:24
  about
• 17:24
  it,
• 17:25
  but
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  name
• 17:25
  porno
• 17:26
  was
• 17:26
  honest.
• 17:26
  And
• 17:26
  my
• 17:27
  dad,
• 17:27
  like,
• 17:28
  you
• 17:28
  know,
• 17:29
  threw.
• 17:29
  It
• 17:29
  in
• 17:29
  the
• 17:29
  trash.
• 17:30
  Oh,
• 17:31
  my
• 17:31
  gosh,
• 17:31
  you
• 17:31
  guys
• 17:31
  are
• 17:32
  so
• 17:32
  bad.
• 17:32
  A
• 17:32
  lot
• 17:32
  of
• 17:32
  things,
• 17:33
  like
• 17:33
  if
• 17:33
  he
• 17:33
  sees
• 17:33
  us,
• 17:33
  like,
• 17:33
  oh,
• 17:34
  you
• 17:34
  can't
• 17:34
  listen
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  this,
• 17:34
  you
• 17:34
  know,
• 17:35
  but
• 17:35
  yeah,
• 17:35
  yeah.
• 17:36
  We
• 17:36
  were
• 17:36
  so
• 17:36
  edgy,
• 17:37
  huh?
• 17:37
  Apparently,
• 17:40
  you
• 17:40
  guys
• 17:41
  make
• 17:41
  me
• 17:42
  look
• 17:42
  like
• 17:42
  a
• 17:42
  saint.
• 17:47
  So.
• 17:47
  Okay,
• 17:48
  all
• 17:48
  right.
• 17:48
  So
• 17:49
  when
• 17:49
  we
• 17:49
  were
• 17:50
  interviewing
• 17:50
  you
• 17:51
  before,
• 17:51
  you
• 17:52
  had
• 17:52
  told
• 17:52
  us
• 17:52
  a
• 17:52
  story,
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  I
• 17:53
  thought
• 17:53
  it
• 17:53
  was
• 17:54
  hilarious
• 17:55
  because
• 17:55
  it
• 17:56
  would
• 17:56
  not
• 17:56
  fly
• 17:57
  nowadays.
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  don't
• 17:58
  think
• 17:58
  so
• 17:58
  either.
• 17:59
  Can
• 18:00
  you
• 18:00
  tell
• 18:00
  us
• 18:00
  about
• 18:01
  the
• 18:02
  experience
• 18:02
  you
• 18:02
  had
• 18:03
  in
• 18:03
  school
• 18:04
  when
• 18:05
  you
• 18:05
  learned
• 18:06
  about
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  Hermit?
• 18:08
  Yes.
• 18:08
  Is
• 18:08
  that
• 18:08
  what
• 18:08
  it
• 18:08
  was?
• 18:09
  Yes,
• 18:10
  yes,
• 18:10
  yes,
• 18:10
  yes.
• 18:10
  So
• 18:12
  another
• 18:12
  early
• 18:12
  influence
• 18:13
  of
• 18:13
  mine
• 18:13
  was
• 18:13
  the
• 18:13
  blues.
• 18:14
  I
• 18:14
  love
• 18:14
  the
• 18:14
  blues.
• 18:14
  B.B.
• 18:15
  king's
• 18:15
  one
• 18:15
  of
• 18:15
  my
• 18:15
  idols.
• 18:16
  And
• 18:16
  where
• 18:16
  did
• 18:16
  you
• 18:16
  live
• 18:17
  at
• 18:17
  this
• 18:17
  point?
• 18:17
  This
• 18:18
  was.
• 18:18
  We
• 18:18
  had
• 18:18
  just
• 18:18
  come
• 18:18
  back
• 18:19
  to
• 18:19
  America.
• 18:20
  I
• 18:21
  don't
• 18:21
  actually
• 18:21
  know
• 18:21
  how
• 18:21
  this
• 18:21
  happened
• 18:22
  because
• 18:22
  my.
• 18:22
  I
• 18:22
  think
• 18:22
  my
• 18:22
  grandparents
• 18:23
  and
• 18:23
  like,
• 18:23
  somebody
• 18:24
  else
• 18:24
  would
• 18:25
  come
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  me
• 18:25
  with
• 18:26
  CDs
• 18:26
  and,
• 18:27
  like,
• 18:27
  this
• 18:27
  is
• 18:27
  how
• 18:27
  I
• 18:27
  got
• 18:28
  into
• 18:28
  jazz.
• 18:29
  But
• 18:29
  she
• 18:29
  says,
• 18:29
  here's
• 18:29
  a
• 18:30
  Thelonious
• 18:30
  Monk
• 18:31
  album.
• 18:31
  I
• 18:31
  know
• 18:31
  you
• 18:31
  love
• 18:32
  Thelonious
• 18:32
  Monk,
• 18:33
  and
• 18:33
  I
• 18:33
  had
• 18:33
  no
• 18:33
  idea,
• 18:34
  but
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  was
• 18:35
  like,
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  didn't
• 18:35
  want
• 18:35
  to
• 18:36
  be
• 18:36
  rude,
• 18:36
  so
• 18:36
  I
• 18:36
  was
• 18:36
  like,
• 18:36
  yeah,
• 18:36
  I
• 18:36
  love
• 18:37
  Thelonious.
• 18:38
  Wait,
• 18:38
  it's
• 18:38
  a
• 18:38
  person.
• 18:39
  It's
• 18:39
  not
• 18:39
  monks
• 18:39
  singing?
• 18:40
  No,
• 18:40
  it's
• 18:40
  Thelonious
• 18:40
  Monk.
• 18:41
  He's
• 18:41
  a
• 18:41
  jazz
• 18:42
  pianist.
• 18:43
  Oh,
• 18:43
  I'm
• 18:43
  so
• 18:43
  embarrassed.
• 18:44
  I
• 18:45
  will
• 18:45
  open
• 18:45
  my.
• 18:46
  He's
• 18:46
  not
• 18:46
  like
• 18:46
  one
• 18:46
  of
• 18:46
  the,
• 18:47
  you
• 18:47
  know,
• 18:47
  top
• 18:47
  mainstream
• 18:48
  people,
• 18:48
  so,
• 18:48
  you
• 18:49
  know,
• 18:49
  but.
• 18:50
  But
• 18:50
  yeah,
• 18:50
  I
• 18:51
  listened
• 18:51
  to
• 18:51
  it
• 18:51
  and
• 18:51
  turns
• 18:51
  out
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  was
• 18:52
  like,
• 18:52
  I
• 18:52
  do
• 18:52
  love
• 18:52
  this,
• 18:53
  so.
• 18:53
  But
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  also
• 18:54
  kind
• 18:54
  of
• 18:54
  discovered
• 18:55
  BB
• 18:55
  King
• 18:55
  that
• 18:55
  way.
• 18:56
  So.
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  love
• 18:56
  the
• 18:56
  blues
• 18:57
  and
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  was
• 18:58
  gifted
• 18:58
  a
• 18:58
  harmonica
• 18:59
  one
• 19:00
  year
• 19:00
  for
• 19:00
  a
• 19:00
  birthday
• 19:00
  or
• 19:01
  Christmas
• 19:01
  or
• 19:01
  something
• 19:01
  like
• 19:01
  that.
• 19:02
  And
• 19:03
  again,
• 19:03
  I
• 19:03
  kind
• 19:03
  of
• 19:03
  taught
• 19:04
  myself
• 19:04
  how
• 19:04
  to
• 19:04
  play
• 19:04
  and
• 19:04
  I
• 19:05
  just.
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  loved
• 19:05
  it.
• 19:05
  I
• 19:05
  carried
• 19:06
  it
• 19:06
  with
• 19:06
  me
• 19:07
  everywhere.
• 19:08
  And
• 19:09
  my
• 19:10
  senior
• 19:10
  year,
• 19:11
  I
• 19:11
  was.
• 19:12
  I
• 19:13
  had
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  bunch
• 19:13
  of
• 19:13
  blow
• 19:13
  off
• 19:14
  classes.
• 19:14
  One
• 19:14
  of
• 19:14
  them
• 19:14
  was
• 19:14
  rotc.
• 19:15
  So
• 19:15
  we're
• 19:15
  in
• 19:15
  this
• 19:16
  annex
• 19:16
  building
• 19:16
  from
• 19:16
  the
• 19:17
  school
• 19:18
  and
• 19:18
  it
• 19:18
  was
• 19:18
  the
• 19:18
  last
• 19:19
  class
• 19:19
  of
• 19:19
  the
• 19:19
  day.
• 19:19
  Most
• 19:20
  people
• 19:20
  had
• 19:20
  gone,
• 19:20
  and
• 19:20
  I'm
• 19:21
  walking
• 19:21
  down
• 19:21
  this
• 19:21
  hallway
• 19:22
  Playing
• 19:22
  my.
• 19:22
  My
• 19:23
  harmonica.
• 19:24
  Just
• 19:24
  like
• 19:24
  an
• 19:24
  old.
• 19:24
  A
• 19:25
  movie.
• 19:25
  And
• 19:25
  he's
• 19:25
  just.
• 19:27
  And
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  see
• 19:27
  this,
• 19:28
  like,
• 19:28
  guy
• 19:29
  just
• 19:29
  poke
• 19:29
  his
• 19:29
  head
• 19:29
  out
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  the.
• 19:30
  One
• 19:30
  of
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  rooms.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:31
  He's.
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  don't
• 19:32
  know,
• 19:32
  40s,
• 19:33
  maybe
• 19:33
  50s.
• 19:34
  And
• 19:34
  he
• 19:34
  looks
• 19:34
  out
• 19:35
  and
• 19:35
  he
• 19:35
  goes,
• 19:35
  is
• 19:36
  that
• 19:36
  you?
• 19:37
  I
• 19:37
  said,
• 19:37
  yeah.
• 19:37
  He
• 19:37
  goes,
• 19:38
  you
• 19:38
  like
• 19:38
  the
• 19:38
  blues?
• 19:38
  I
• 19:38
  said,
• 19:39
  yeah,
• 19:39
  I
• 19:39
  love
• 19:39
  the
• 19:39
  blues.
• 19:40
  He
• 19:40
  goes,
• 19:40
  me,
• 19:41
  too.
• 19:42
  And
• 19:42
  so
• 19:42
  we
• 19:42
  just
• 19:42
  kind
• 19:42
  of
• 19:43
  started
• 19:43
  talking
• 19:43
  about
• 19:43
  blues.
• 19:43
  He's
• 19:44
  like,
• 19:44
  I
• 19:44
  like
• 19:44
  this
• 19:44
  guy.
• 19:44
  Like,
• 19:45
  this
• 19:45
  guy.
• 19:45
  And,
• 19:45
  like,
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  just
• 19:45
  taught
• 19:46
  myself
• 19:46
  how
• 19:46
  to
• 19:46
  play.
• 19:46
  He's
• 19:46
  like,
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  also
• 19:47
  played
• 19:47
  guitar.
• 19:47
  And
• 19:47
  he
• 19:47
  goes,
• 19:47
  oh,
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  do
• 19:48
  too.
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  have
• 19:48
  a
• 19:49
  lot
• 19:49
  of
• 19:49
  guitar.
• 19:49
  And
• 19:49
  he.
• 19:50
  He
• 19:50
  just
• 19:50
  goes,
• 19:51
  hey,
• 19:51
  do
• 19:51
  you
• 19:52
  want
• 19:52
  to
• 19:52
  come
• 19:52
  up
• 19:52
  here,
• 19:52
  like,
• 19:53
  on
• 19:53
  a
• 19:53
  Saturday
• 19:53
  and
• 19:54
  just
• 19:54
  have
• 19:54
  a
• 19:54
  dance
• 19:54
  session?
• 19:55
  And
• 19:56
  I
• 19:56
  was
• 19:56
  like,
• 19:56
  yeah.
• 19:59
  Here,
• 19:59
  little
• 19:59
  boy.
• 20:00
  You
• 20:00
  want
• 20:00
  some
• 20:00
  candy?
• 20:02
  Essentially
• 20:03
  the
• 20:03
  equivalent.
• 20:04
  A
• 20:04
  lot
• 20:04
  of
• 20:05
  guitars
• 20:05
  in
• 20:05
  my
• 20:06
  van.
• 20:06
  Why
• 20:06
  don't
• 20:06
  you
• 20:06
  check
• 20:06
  them
• 20:07
  out?
• 20:08
  Oh,
• 20:08
  my
• 20:08
  gosh.
• 20:09
  It
• 20:09
  was
• 20:09
  amazing.
• 20:09
  Like,
• 20:10
  his
• 20:10
  name
• 20:10
  was
• 20:10
  Jerry.
• 20:10
  I
• 20:11
  loved
• 20:11
  him.
• 20:11
  We
• 20:12
  got
• 20:12
  along
• 20:12
  great.
• 20:12
  And,
• 20:13
  like,
• 20:13
  it
• 20:13
  was.
• 20:13
  And
• 20:13
  he
• 20:14
  was
• 20:14
  clean.
• 20:14
  He
• 20:14
  was
• 20:14
  clean.
• 20:15
  Like,
• 20:15
  he
• 20:16
  had
• 20:16
  a,
• 20:16
  you
• 20:16
  know,
• 20:16
  a
• 20:16
  rough
• 20:17
  past,
• 20:17
  too.
• 20:17
  He
• 20:17
  went
• 20:17
  through
• 20:18
  a
• 20:18
  divorce,
• 20:18
  and
• 20:18
  he
• 20:18
  was
• 20:18
  always
• 20:18
  telling
• 20:19
  me
• 20:19
  about
• 20:19
  all
• 20:19
  these
• 20:19
  things.
• 20:20
  He's
• 20:20
  like,
• 20:20
  I
• 20:20
  lost
• 20:20
  this
• 20:20
  and
• 20:21
  that.
• 20:21
  But,
• 20:21
  like,
• 20:21
  it
• 20:22
  was
• 20:22
  typical,
• 20:22
  like,
• 20:23
  makings
• 20:23
  of
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  blues
• 20:24
  movie
• 20:25
  or
• 20:25
  song,
• 20:25
  as.
• 20:25
  I
• 20:25
  was
• 20:25
  like,
• 20:26
  that
• 20:26
  is
• 20:26
  adorable.
• 20:28
  But,
• 20:28
  yeah.
• 20:29
  The
• 20:29
  two
• 20:30
  lost
• 20:30
  souls
• 20:31
  from
• 20:31
  different
• 20:32
  walks
• 20:32
  of
• 20:32
  life
• 20:33
  jamming
• 20:33
  out.
• 20:35
  I
• 20:35
  just
• 20:35
  love
• 20:35
  it.
• 20:36
  Did
• 20:36
  your
• 20:36
  parents,
• 20:37
  like,
• 20:37
  know
• 20:37
  you
• 20:37
  were
• 20:38
  going
• 20:38
  to
• 20:38
  meet
• 20:38
  up
• 20:38
  with
• 20:38
  an
• 20:38
  older
• 20:38
  girl?
• 20:40
  I
• 20:40
  never
• 20:41
  told
• 20:41
  anybody
• 20:43
  until
• 20:44
  just
• 20:44
  now.
• 20:45
  Yeah.
• 20:46
  Now
• 20:47
  the
• 20:47
  truth
• 20:47
  comes
• 20:47
  out.
• 20:48
  Hi,
• 20:48
  Mom.
• 20:48
  Sorry.
• 20:51
  Oh,
• 20:51
  my
• 20:51
  God,
• 20:52
  I
• 20:52
  feel
• 20:52
  so
• 20:52
  special.
• 20:54
  That's
• 20:55
  the
• 20:55
  best.
• 20:55
  That's
• 20:56
  the
• 20:56
  best.
• 20:56
  That's
• 20:56
  what
• 20:56
  we
• 20:57
  do.
• 20:57
  We
• 20:57
  try
• 20:57
  to
• 20:57
  get
• 20:57
  those
• 20:57
  deep
• 20:58
  confessions
• 20:58
  out.
• 20:59
  Oh,
• 20:59
  my
• 20:59
  God.
• 21:00
  Yeah.
• 21:00
  I
• 21:01
  think
• 21:01
  our
• 21:01
  parents
• 21:01
  have
• 21:01
  gotten
• 21:02
  some
• 21:02
  confessionals,
• 21:02
  huh?
• 21:03
  Yeah,
• 21:03
  that's
• 21:03
  true,
• 21:04
  actually.
• 21:04
  I
• 21:04
  love
• 21:04
  it.
• 21:06
  Sam's
• 21:06
  like,
• 21:06
  mom,
• 21:07
  so
• 21:07
  sorry,
• 21:07
  if
• 21:07
  you're
• 21:08
  listening.
• 21:08
  Oh,
• 21:08
  yeah.
• 21:08
  And
• 21:08
  Hannah.
• 21:09
  Oh.
• 21:09
  Oh,
• 21:09
  yeah.
• 21:09
  There's
• 21:09
  been
• 21:10
  an
• 21:10
  episode
• 21:10
  where
• 21:10
  I
• 21:10
  was
• 21:10
  like,
• 21:11
  mom,
• 21:11
  tone
• 21:11
  out.
• 21:12
  Sister
• 21:12
  and
• 21:12
  I
• 21:12
  are
• 21:13
  coming
• 21:13
  out.
• 21:17
  So
• 21:18
  that's
• 21:18
  awesome.
• 21:19
  So
• 21:19
  music
• 21:20
  always
• 21:20
  played
• 21:20
  a
• 21:20
  part
• 21:21
  in
• 21:21
  your
• 21:21
  life,
• 21:21
  which
• 21:21
  is.
• 21:22
  Yeah,
• 21:23
  always.
• 21:24
  And
• 21:24
  what
• 21:24
  brought
• 21:24
  us
• 21:25
  together
• 21:25
  is
• 21:26
  that
• 21:27
  to
• 21:28
  us,
• 21:28
  you
• 21:28
  found
• 21:29
  a
• 21:29
  unique
• 21:29
  path
• 21:30
  of
• 21:30
  musical
• 21:31
  therapy.
• 21:31
  Yeah,
• 21:33
  tell
• 21:33
  us
• 21:33
  about
• 21:33
  that
• 21:34
  a
• 21:34
  little
• 21:34
  bit.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:35
  So
• 21:37
  like
• 21:38
  I
• 21:38
  said
• 21:38
  earlier,
• 21:38
  I've
• 21:38
  always
• 21:39
  struggled
• 21:39
  in
• 21:39
  school.
• 21:40
  So,
• 21:40
  you
• 21:40
  know,
• 21:40
  my
• 21:40
  parents
• 21:41
  were
• 21:41
  very
• 21:41
  conservative
• 21:42
  as
• 21:42
  far
• 21:42
  as,
• 21:43
  like,
• 21:43
  your,
• 21:43
  you
• 21:44
  know,
• 21:44
  life
• 21:45
  choices
• 21:45
  and
• 21:45
  trajectory.
• 21:46
  So
• 21:46
  as
• 21:46
  soon
• 21:47
  as
• 21:47
  I
• 21:47
  graduated
• 21:47
  from
• 21:47
  high
• 21:48
  school,
• 21:48
  they
• 21:48
  said,
• 21:48
  okay,
• 21:48
  you're
• 21:49
  going
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  college.
• 21:50
  You
• 21:50
  know,
• 21:50
  go
• 21:51
  right
• 21:51
  now.
• 21:51
  Like,
• 21:51
  we
• 21:51
  had
• 21:51
  a
• 21:51
  scholarship
• 21:52
  to
• 21:52
  Dallas
• 21:52
  Baptist
• 21:53
  University
• 21:53
  because
• 21:53
  my
• 21:54
  parents
• 21:54
  were
• 21:54
  missionaries
• 21:55
  and
• 21:55
  he
• 21:55
  was
• 21:55
  a
• 21:55
  pastor
• 21:56
  at
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  time.
• 21:57
  And
• 21:58
  so
• 21:58
  it
• 21:58
  was
• 21:59
  not
• 21:59
  even
• 21:59
  a
• 21:59
  question.
• 21:59
  He's
• 21:59
  like,
• 22:00
  you're.
• 22:00
  You're
• 22:00
  going.
• 22:00
  So
• 22:01
  I
• 22:01
  went
• 22:01
  and
• 22:01
  I
• 22:02
  failed
• 22:02
  absolutely
• 22:03
  miserably.
• 22:04
  Like,
• 22:04
  every
• 22:04
  class
• 22:05
  had.
• 22:06
  I
• 22:06
  failed
• 22:06
  it.
• 22:07
  And
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  just
• 22:07
  had
• 22:07
  this
• 22:08
  overwhelming,
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  guess,
• 22:10
  need
• 22:10
  to
• 22:10
  go
• 22:10
  back
• 22:10
  to
• 22:11
  school,
• 22:11
  because
• 22:11
  it
• 22:11
  was
• 22:11
  like,
• 22:11
  that's
• 22:12
  what
• 22:12
  you
• 22:12
  do.
• 22:12
  You
• 22:12
  don't
• 22:12
  question
• 22:13
  it,
• 22:13
  you
• 22:14
  know.
• 22:14
  So
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  went
• 22:14
  to
• 22:14
  community
• 22:15
  college
• 22:15
  after
• 22:15
  community
• 22:16
  college,
• 22:16
  and
• 22:16
  I
• 22:16
  just.
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  kept
• 22:17
  failing
• 22:17
  and
• 22:18
  failing
• 22:18
  and
• 22:18
  failing
• 22:18
  and
• 22:18
  failing.
• 22:20
  And
• 22:20
  so
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  just
• 22:21
  kind
• 22:21
  of
• 22:22
  went
• 22:22
  through
• 22:23
  life,
• 22:23
  like,
• 22:23
  trying
• 22:23
  to
• 22:24
  figure
• 22:24
  out
• 22:24
  what
• 22:24
  I
• 22:24
  could
• 22:24
  do
• 22:25
  without
• 22:25
  a
• 22:25
  degree.
• 22:26
  In
• 22:27
  the
• 22:27
  back
• 22:27
  of
• 22:27
  my
• 22:27
  mind,
• 22:27
  like,
• 22:28
  when
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  was
• 22:29
  going
• 22:29
  to
• 22:29
  college
• 22:30
  or
• 22:30
  attempting
• 22:30
  to
• 22:30
  go
• 22:30
  to
• 22:31
  college,
• 22:31
  I
• 22:31
  kind
• 22:31
  of
• 22:31
  always
• 22:31
  had
• 22:31
  this
• 22:32
  feeling
• 22:32
  like,
• 22:32
  I
• 22:32
  need
• 22:33
  to
• 22:33
  help
• 22:33
  people.
• 22:33
  I
• 22:33
  want
• 22:33
  to
• 22:34
  help
• 22:34
  people.
• 22:35
  I
• 22:35
  think
• 22:35
  some
• 22:35
  then
• 22:36
  at
• 22:36
  that
• 22:36
  time,
• 22:36
  I
• 22:36
  was
• 22:36
  just
• 22:37
  like,
• 22:37
  there's
• 22:37
  something
• 22:37
  in
• 22:37
  my
• 22:37
  past
• 22:38
  that
• 22:38
  was
• 22:38
  really
• 22:39
  rough.
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  don't
• 22:39
  want
• 22:39
  other
• 22:39
  people
• 22:40
  to
• 22:40
  go
• 22:40
  through
• 22:40
  it.
• 22:40
  So
• 22:40
  that's
• 22:41
  kind
• 22:41
  of
• 22:41
  why
• 22:41
  I
• 22:41
  want
• 22:41
  to
• 22:42
  see
• 22:43
  if
• 22:43
  I
• 22:43
  can
• 22:43
  give
• 22:43
  back.
• 22:44
  But
• 22:44
  I
• 22:44
  was
• 22:45
  young,
• 22:45
  and
• 22:45
  I
• 22:45
  didn't
• 22:46
  exactly
• 22:46
  know
• 22:46
  what
• 22:47
  that
• 22:47
  looked
• 22:47
  like
• 22:47
  or,
• 22:48
  you
• 22:49
  know,
• 22:49
  how
• 22:49
  to
• 22:49
  do
• 22:50
  it
• 22:50
  or
• 22:50
  anything
• 22:50
  like
• 22:50
  that.
• 22:51
  So
• 22:52
  I
• 22:52
  just
• 22:53
  kind
• 22:53
  of
• 22:54
  made
• 22:54
  my
• 22:54
  own
• 22:54
  way.
• 22:55
  Like,
• 22:55
  I,
• 22:55
  I,
• 22:55
  you
• 22:55
  know,
• 22:56
  I've
• 22:56
  chased
• 22:56
  the.
• 22:56
  The
• 22:57
  band
• 22:57
  dream
• 22:57
  for
• 22:57
  a
• 22:57
  while.
• 22:57
  I
• 22:58
  was
• 22:58
  in
• 22:58
  a
• 22:58
  few
• 22:58
  bands
• 22:59
  for
• 22:59
  years.
• 23:00
  I
• 23:01
  eventually
• 23:01
  quit
• 23:01
  grunge
• 23:02
  bands.
• 23:03
  Grunge?
• 23:04
  Grunge.
• 23:05
  Some
• 23:05
  grunge,
• 23:06
  yeah.
• 23:06
  It
• 23:06
  was
• 23:06
  like.
• 23:07
  I
• 23:07
  think
• 23:07
  the
• 23:08
  first
• 23:08
  gigging
• 23:08
  band
• 23:08
  we
• 23:08
  had
• 23:09
  was
• 23:09
  kind
• 23:09
  of
• 23:09
  a
• 23:09
  grunge
• 23:09
  band.
• 23:10
  It
• 23:10
  was
• 23:10
  like
• 23:10
  an
• 23:10
  indie
• 23:10
  grunge
• 23:11
  kind
• 23:12
  of
• 23:12
  a
• 23:12
  band.
• 23:12
  We
• 23:13
  had
• 23:13
  like
• 23:13
  a
• 23:13
  little
• 23:13
  pop
• 23:13
  punk
• 23:14
  band.
• 23:15
  Oh,
• 23:16
  band.
• 23:16
  Yeah,
• 23:16
  it
• 23:16
  was
• 23:16
  kind
• 23:16
  of.
• 23:17
  It
• 23:17
  was
• 23:17
  very
• 23:18
  varied
• 23:18
  across
• 23:19
  the
• 23:19
  genre,
• 23:20
  so.
• 23:20
  But
• 23:20
  we
• 23:20
  just
• 23:20
  had
• 23:21
  fun,
• 23:21
  but
• 23:21
  eventually
• 23:22
  just
• 23:22
  kind
• 23:22
  of
• 23:22
  got
• 23:22
  burnt
• 23:23
  out
• 23:23
  on
• 23:23
  that
• 23:24
  because
• 23:25
  it's.
• 23:25
  It's
• 23:25
  hard.
• 23:26
  You
• 23:26
  know,
• 23:26
  you
• 23:26
  get
• 23:26
  a
• 23:26
  lot
• 23:26
  of
• 23:26
  people
• 23:27
  that
• 23:27
  are
• 23:28
  in
• 23:28
  bands
• 23:28
  and
• 23:28
  they're
• 23:29
  very
• 23:29
  dedicated
• 23:30
  to
• 23:30
  their
• 23:30
  work,
• 23:30
  and
• 23:30
  they
• 23:30
  say,
• 23:30
  you
• 23:31
  know,
• 23:31
  like,
• 23:31
  we're
• 23:31
  going
• 23:31
  to
• 23:31
  go
• 23:31
  all
• 23:32
  the
• 23:32
  way.
• 23:32
  We're
• 23:32
  going
• 23:32
  to
• 23:32
  make
• 23:32
  it,
• 23:32
  you
• 23:33
  know,
• 23:33
  no
• 23:33
  matter
• 23:33
  what.
• 23:33
  And
• 23:34
  so
• 23:34
  for
• 23:35
  me,
• 23:35
  I
• 23:36
  thought
• 23:36
  it
• 23:36
  would
• 23:37
  be
• 23:37
  really
• 23:37
  amazing
• 23:37
  to
• 23:38
  be
• 23:38
  able
• 23:38
  to
• 23:39
  reach
• 23:39
  that
• 23:39
  success.
• 23:40
  But
• 23:40
  also
• 23:40
  it
• 23:41
  was
• 23:41
  very
• 23:41
  draining.
• 23:42
  And,
• 23:42
  like,
• 23:43
  if
• 23:43
  you
• 23:43
  didn't,
• 23:44
  like,
• 23:44
  walk
• 23:44
  the
• 23:44
  walk,
• 23:44
  talk
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  talk
• 23:45
  100
• 23:45
  of
• 23:45
  the
• 23:46
  time,
• 23:46
  you
• 23:46
  know,
• 23:47
  you
• 23:47
  weren't
• 23:47
  doing
• 23:48
  your
• 23:48
  job.
• 23:48
  And
• 23:48
  it
• 23:48
  just
• 23:48
  kind
• 23:49
  of
• 23:49
  took
• 23:49
  the
• 23:49
  fun
• 23:49
  out
• 23:49
  of
• 23:49
  it.
• 23:50
  So
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  knew
• 23:51
  I
• 23:51
  wanted
• 23:51
  to
• 23:52
  stay
• 23:52
  in
• 23:52
  music.
• 23:52
  I
• 23:52
  became
• 23:53
  an
• 23:53
  audio
• 23:53
  engineer
• 23:53
  for
• 23:53
  a
• 23:54
  while.
• 23:55
  Kind
• 23:55
  of
• 23:55
  got
• 23:55
  burnt
• 23:55
  out
• 23:55
  on
• 23:56
  that,
• 23:56
  too.
• 23:57
  Tell
• 23:57
  us,
• 23:57
  what
• 23:57
  does
• 23:57
  an
• 23:58
  audio
• 23:58
  engineer
• 23:58
  do?
• 23:58
  Exactly.
• 23:59
  He's
• 23:59
  run
• 24:00
  sound
• 24:00
  like
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  guy
• 24:00
  at
• 24:00
  the.
• 24:01
  That
• 24:01
  runs
• 24:01
  the
• 24:01
  sound
• 24:01
  booth
• 24:02
  at
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  concerts.
• 24:03
  Concerts.
• 24:04
  Okay.
• 24:04
  So
• 24:05
  I
• 24:05
  worked
• 24:06
  for
• 24:06
  a
• 24:07
  production
• 24:07
  company
• 24:07
  and
• 24:07
  we
• 24:07
  did
• 24:08
  a
• 24:08
  lot
• 24:08
  of
• 24:08
  weddings,
• 24:09
  a
• 24:09
  lot
• 24:09
  of
• 24:09
  corporate
• 24:10
  events
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  things
• 24:10
  like
• 24:10
  that,
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  that
• 24:11
  was
• 24:11
  just.
• 24:11
  It
• 24:11
  was
• 24:11
  a
• 24:11
  blast.
• 24:12
  But
• 24:12
  it's
• 24:13
  always
• 24:13
  late
• 24:13
  nights,
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  know,
• 24:14
  we
• 24:14
  did
• 24:15
  play
• 24:15
  at
• 24:15
  Trees,
• 24:15
  which
• 24:15
  is
• 24:16
  where
• 24:16
  Nirvana
• 24:16
  played,
• 24:17
  which
• 24:17
  is
• 24:17
  my.
• 24:17
  My
• 24:18
  massive
• 24:18
  dream
• 24:18
  is
• 24:19
  a
• 24:19
  small
• 24:19
  club
• 24:19
  in
• 24:19
  deep
• 24:19
  Ellum.
• 24:20
  And
• 24:20
  I
• 24:20
  was
• 24:20
  just
• 24:20
  like.
• 24:20
  We
• 24:21
  made
• 24:21
  it
• 24:21
  right
• 24:22
  in
• 24:22
  my
• 24:22
  lineup.
• 24:23
  Oh,
• 24:23
  my
• 24:23
  God.
• 24:23
  Kurt
• 24:24
  stood
• 24:24
  here.
• 24:24
  It
• 24:24
  was
• 24:24
  incredible.
• 24:25
  I
• 24:26
  got
• 24:26
  my
• 24:26
  first
• 24:26
  tattoo
• 24:26
  in
• 24:26
  deep
• 24:27
  Elm.
• 24:27
  Did
• 24:27
  you?
• 24:27
  Yeah.
• 24:28
  I
• 24:28
  didn't
• 24:28
  know
• 24:28
  Kurt
• 24:28
  Cobain
• 24:29
  was
• 24:29
  down.
• 24:29
  There
• 24:29
  was
• 24:30
  one
• 24:30
  day
• 24:30
  very
• 24:31
  famous.
• 24:31
  You
• 24:32
  can
• 24:32
  YouTube
• 24:32
  it.
• 24:32
  Like,
• 24:32
  this
• 24:32
  is
• 24:33
  a
• 24:33
  very
• 24:33
  famous
• 24:34
  Nirvana
• 24:34
  moment
• 24:34
  where,
• 24:35
  like,
• 24:35
  he
• 24:35
  and
• 24:35
  the
• 24:35
  sound
• 24:36
  guy
• 24:36
  get
• 24:36
  into
• 24:37
  a
• 24:37
  fight
• 24:37
  and,
• 24:37
  like
• 24:37
  they
• 24:37
  beat
• 24:37
  each
• 24:38
  other
• 24:38
  up.
• 24:38
  It
• 24:38
  was
• 24:38
  a
• 24:38
  massive
• 24:39
  thing.
• 24:39
  But
• 24:40
  yeah,
• 24:40
  okay.
• 24:41
  Anyway,
• 24:42
  wow.
• 24:43
  My
• 24:43
  ADHD
• 24:44
  squirrel
• 24:44
  just
• 24:44
  went.
• 24:44
  I
• 24:44
  forgot
• 24:45
  where
• 24:45
  sound.
• 24:46
  So
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  sound
• 24:48
  tech.
• 24:49
  Tech.
• 24:49
  Yeah.
• 24:50
  You
• 24:51
  lost
• 24:51
  interest
• 24:51
  in
• 24:52
  that,
• 24:52
  right?
• 24:53
  So,
• 24:53
  yeah,
• 24:54
  I
• 24:54
  became
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  photographer
• 24:55
  for
• 24:55
  a
• 24:55
  while.
• 24:56
  Really
• 24:56
  good.
• 24:57
  Oh,
• 24:57
  thank
• 24:57
  you.
• 24:57
  He
• 24:58
  did
• 24:58
  it
• 24:58
  perfect.
• 24:58
  Well,
• 24:59
  obviously
• 24:59
  professionally,
• 25:00
  yeah,
• 25:01
  I
• 25:01
  always
• 25:01
  try.
• 25:01
  To
• 25:02
  pursue
• 25:02
  my
• 25:02
  passions,
• 25:02
  whatever
• 25:03
  those
• 25:03
  are,
• 25:03
  you
• 25:03
  know,
• 25:04
  just.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:05
  just
• 25:05
  do
• 25:05
  better.
• 25:05
  But
• 25:05
  it's
• 25:06
  crazy
• 25:06
  because
• 25:06
  we.
• 25:06
  It's
• 25:07
  literally
• 25:07
  what
• 25:07
  we
• 25:07
  were
• 25:07
  just
• 25:07
  talking
• 25:08
  about.
• 25:08
  I
• 25:08
  did
• 25:08
  not
• 25:08
  know
• 25:08
  that's
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  pet.
• 25:09
  I
• 25:09
  was.
• 25:10
  That
• 25:10
  was
• 25:10
  what
• 25:10
  I
• 25:10
  was
• 25:10
  wondering
• 25:11
  if
• 25:11
  you
• 25:11
  knew
• 25:12
  exactly
• 25:12
  what
• 25:12
  he
• 25:12
  was
• 25:12
  about
• 25:12
  to
• 25:13
  say.
• 25:13
  So
• 25:13
  we
• 25:13
  just
• 25:13
  did
• 25:13
  our
• 25:14
  intro
• 25:14
  for
• 25:14
  this
• 25:14
  episode
• 25:15
  and
• 25:15
  it
• 25:15
  was
• 25:15
  all
• 25:15
  about
• 25:16
  kind
• 25:16
  of,
• 25:16
  you
• 25:17
  don't
• 25:17
  have
• 25:17
  to
• 25:17
  go.
• 25:17
  To
• 25:17
  school
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  be
• 25:18
  successful
• 25:19
  following
• 25:19
  your
• 25:19
  passion.
• 25:20
  And
• 25:20
  anyway,
• 25:21
  so,
• 25:21
  yeah,
• 25:21
  it
• 25:21
  was
• 25:21
  really
• 25:22
  funny.
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  didn't
• 25:22
  know
• 25:22
  I
• 25:22
  was
• 25:22
  going
• 25:22
  to
• 25:23
  take
• 25:23
  this
• 25:23
  turn.
• 25:24
  We're
• 25:25
  going
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  take
• 25:25
  some
• 25:25
  turns
• 25:25
  today.
• 25:25
  It's
• 25:25
  going
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  be
• 25:26
  awesome.
• 25:26
  All
• 25:27
  right.
• 25:28
  So,
• 25:28
  yeah,
• 25:29
  I
• 25:29
  did
• 25:30
  that
• 25:30
  for
• 25:30
  a
• 25:30
  while
• 25:31
  and
• 25:31
  I
• 25:31
  kind
• 25:31
  of
• 25:31
  hit
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  point
• 25:32
  in
• 25:32
  my
• 25:32
  life
• 25:33
  where
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  was
• 25:33
  like,
• 25:33
  I
• 25:33
  don't
• 25:33
  know
• 25:33
  what
• 25:33
  I
• 25:34
  want
• 25:34
  to
• 25:34
  do.
• 25:34
  Like,
• 25:34
  I
• 25:34
  want
• 25:34
  to
• 25:35
  be,
• 25:35
  you
• 25:35
  know,
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  want
• 25:36
  to
• 25:36
  be
• 25:36
  a
• 25:36
  better
• 25:36
  husband.
• 25:36
  I
• 25:37
  want
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  be
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  better
• 25:37
  father.
• 25:38
  You.
• 25:38
  Like,
• 25:38
  I
• 25:38
  want,
• 25:39
  like,
• 25:39
  a
• 25:39
  good
• 25:39
  life.
• 25:40
  Like,
• 25:40
  we're
• 25:41
  making
• 25:41
  money
• 25:41
  and
• 25:41
  paying
• 25:42
  the
• 25:42
  bills,
• 25:42
  but
• 25:42
  like,
• 25:43
  I
• 25:43
  always
• 25:43
  had
• 25:43
  this
• 25:43
  dream
• 25:43
  of
• 25:44
  I
• 25:44
  want.
• 25:44
  I
• 25:44
  want
• 25:45
  more,
• 25:45
  you
• 25:45
  know?
• 25:46
  And
• 25:46
  so
• 25:47
  I
• 25:47
  tried
• 25:47
  little
• 25:47
  things
• 25:48
  here
• 25:48
  and
• 25:48
  there
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  just
• 25:49
  nothing
• 25:50
  was
• 25:50
  working
• 25:50
  out.
• 25:50
  So
• 25:50
  I
• 25:50
  went
• 25:51
  back
• 25:51
  to
• 25:51
  working
• 25:51
  in
• 25:51
  a
• 25:51
  warehouse
• 25:52
  as
• 25:52
  an
• 25:52
  audio
• 25:53
  visual
• 25:53
  warehouse.
• 25:56
  And
• 25:56
  I
• 25:56
  just.
• 25:57
  Because
• 25:57
  I
• 25:57
  had
• 25:57
  talked
• 25:57
  to
• 25:58
  a
• 25:58
  guy.
• 25:59
  This
• 25:59
  is
• 25:59
  a
• 25:59
  fun
• 26:00
  story.
• 26:00
  So
• 26:00
  for
• 26:01
  very,
• 26:01
  very
• 26:02
  hot
• 26:02
  minute,
• 26:02
  I
• 26:02
  sold
• 26:03
  insurance
• 26:04
  cancer
• 26:04
  policies.
• 26:05
  It
• 26:05
  was
• 26:05
  door
• 26:06
  to
• 26:06
  door,
• 26:07
  which
• 26:07
  I
• 26:07
  didn't
• 26:07
  know
• 26:08
  at
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  time.
• 26:08
  I
• 26:08
  should
• 26:08
  have
• 26:08
  known,
• 26:09
  but
• 26:10
  it.
• 26:10
  I
• 26:10
  did
• 26:10
  not
• 26:11
  do
• 26:11
  well
• 26:11
  at
• 26:11
  all.
• 26:11
  That's
• 26:12
  not
• 26:12
  at
• 26:12
  all,
• 26:13
  like,
• 26:13
  my
• 26:13
  area
• 26:14
  of
• 26:14
  expertise
• 26:14
  in
• 26:14
  any
• 26:14
  way.
• 26:15
  So,
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  mean,
• 26:15
  it's
• 26:16
  freaking.
• 26:16
  Just
• 26:16
  rejection.
• 26:17
  All
• 26:17
  day.
• 26:17
  It
• 26:17
  was
• 26:17
  rejection,
• 26:18
  and
• 26:18
  it,
• 26:18
  like,
• 26:18
  it
• 26:18
  really
• 26:19
  hit
• 26:19
  me
• 26:19
  hard.
• 26:19
  And,
• 26:20
  like,
• 26:21
  I
• 26:21
  didn't
• 26:21
  sell
• 26:21
  a
• 26:22
  single
• 26:22
  thing.
• 26:22
  So
• 26:23
  I
• 26:23
  was
• 26:23
  just.
• 26:23
  I
• 26:23
  was
• 26:23
  beat,
• 26:24
  you
• 26:24
  know,
• 26:24
  I
• 26:24
  was
• 26:24
  down.
• 26:25
  They
• 26:25
  had
• 26:25
  a
• 26:25
  thing.
• 26:26
  I
• 26:26
  can't.
• 26:26
  It's
• 26:27
  kind
• 26:27
  of
• 26:27
  like
• 26:27
  spirit
• 26:27
  week,
• 26:28
  where
• 26:28
  they
• 26:28
  go
• 26:28
  to
• 26:28
  some
• 26:29
  small
• 26:29
  town
• 26:29
  in
• 26:29
  the
• 26:29
  middle
• 26:29
  of
• 26:30
  nowhere,
• 26:30
  and
• 26:30
  they're
• 26:30
  like,
• 26:30
  you're
• 26:30
  going
• 26:30
  to
• 26:30
  sell
• 26:31
  more
• 26:31
  than
• 26:31
  you
• 26:31
  ever
• 26:31
  have.
• 26:32
  And
• 26:33
  I
• 26:33
  didn't
• 26:33
  sell
• 26:33
  anything.
• 26:35
  And
• 26:35
  so
• 26:35
  on
• 26:35
  my
• 26:35
  way
• 26:36
  back,
• 26:36
  I
• 26:36
  was
• 26:36
  just
• 26:36
  distraught.
• 26:37
  I
• 26:37
  was
• 26:37
  just
• 26:37
  like,
• 26:38
  I
• 26:38
  don't
• 26:38
  know
• 26:38
  what
• 26:38
  I'm
• 26:39
  going
• 26:39
  to
• 26:39
  do.
• 26:39
  Like,
• 26:39
  I
• 26:39
  feel
• 26:39
  like
• 26:39
  such
• 26:40
  a
• 26:40
  failure.
• 26:40
  And
• 26:41
  they
• 26:41
  always
• 26:41
  said,
• 26:42
  if
• 26:42
  there's
• 26:42
  sun's
• 26:42
  up,
• 26:43
  you're
• 26:43
  knocking
• 26:43
  on
• 26:43
  doors.
• 26:44
  So
• 26:44
  I
• 26:44
  was
• 26:44
  on
• 26:44
  my
• 26:45
  way
• 26:45
  home.
• 26:45
  I
• 26:45
  was
• 26:46
  south
• 26:46
  of
• 26:46
  Fort
• 26:46
  Worth
• 26:46
  somewhere.
• 26:47
  I
• 26:47
  was
• 26:47
  driving
• 26:47
  through
• 26:47
  somewhere.
• 26:48
  I
• 26:48
  was
• 26:48
  like,
• 26:48
  you
• 26:48
  know
• 26:48
  what?
• 26:48
  There's
• 26:48
  sunlight.
• 26:49
  I'm
• 26:49
  going
• 26:49
  to
• 26:49
  give
• 26:49
  it
• 26:49
  one
• 26:49
  last
• 26:50
  go.
• 26:50
  So
• 26:51
  I
• 26:51
  started
• 26:51
  knocking
• 26:51
  on
• 26:51
  homes,
• 26:52
  and
• 26:52
  I
• 26:52
  walked
• 26:53
  this
• 26:53
  house,
• 26:54
  and
• 26:54
  this
• 26:55
  for
• 26:55
  this
• 26:55
  garage
• 26:56
  is
• 26:56
  open.
• 26:56
  This
• 26:56
  guy
• 26:57
  is
• 26:57
  sitting
• 26:57
  in
• 26:57
  there,
• 26:57
  and
• 26:57
  he's
• 26:57
  like,
• 26:58
  hey,
• 26:58
  what
• 26:59
  are
• 26:59
  you
• 26:59
  selling?
• 27:01
  I
• 27:01
  was
• 27:01
  like,
• 27:02
  here's
• 27:02
  my
• 27:02
  shot,
• 27:03
  you
• 27:03
  know?
• 27:03
  So
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  go
• 27:03
  in,
• 27:03
  I'm
• 27:03
  like,
• 27:04
  let
• 27:04
  me
• 27:04
  tell
• 27:04
  you
• 27:04
  something.
• 27:05
  I
• 27:05
  was
• 27:05
  like,
• 27:05
  here,
• 27:05
  we
• 27:05
  got
• 27:06
  this
• 27:06
  deal,
• 27:06
  right?
• 27:06
  And
• 27:06
  so
• 27:07
  I'm
• 27:07
  still
• 27:07
  doing
• 27:07
  the
• 27:08
  pitch,
• 27:08
  and
• 27:08
  he's
• 27:08
  just
• 27:08
  looking
• 27:08
  at
• 27:08
  me.
• 27:08
  He
• 27:09
  goes,
• 27:09
  do
• 27:09
  you
• 27:09
  like
• 27:09
  what
• 27:09
  you
• 27:09
  do?
• 27:10
  And
• 27:11
  I,
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  course,
• 27:11
  give
• 27:11
  him,
• 27:11
  like,
• 27:12
  this
• 27:12
  whole
• 27:12
  speech.
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  was
• 27:12
  like,
• 27:13
  of
• 27:13
  course,
• 27:13
  you
• 27:13
  know,
• 27:13
  pays
• 27:14
  the
• 27:14
  bills,
• 27:14
  American
• 27:14
  dream,
• 27:15
  blah,
• 27:15
  blah,
• 27:15
  blah,
• 27:15
  right?
• 27:16
  He
• 27:17
  goes,
• 27:17
  cut
• 27:17
  this,
• 27:17
  man.
• 27:18
  He
• 27:18
  goes,
• 27:18
  do
• 27:18
  you
• 27:18
  like
• 27:18
  what
• 27:18
  you
• 27:19
  do?
• 27:19
  And
• 27:19
  I
• 27:19
  was
• 27:19
  like,
• 27:20
  no,
• 27:21
  I
• 27:21
  don't.
• 27:22
  You
• 27:22
  know?
• 27:22
  And
• 27:23
  so
• 27:23
  he,
• 27:23
  like,
• 27:23
  takes
• 27:23
  me
• 27:24
  around
• 27:24
  his
• 27:24
  garage,
• 27:24
  and
• 27:25
  he's
• 27:25
  like,
• 27:25
  let
• 27:25
  me
• 27:25
  show
• 27:25
  you
• 27:25
  some
• 27:25
  stuff.
• 27:26
  And
• 27:26
  he
• 27:26
  pulls
• 27:26
  this
• 27:27
  blanket
• 27:27
  back,
• 27:27
  and
• 27:27
  there's
• 27:28
  this,
• 27:28
  like,
• 27:28
  Harley
• 27:28
  Davidson
• 27:29
  motorcycle
• 27:29
  and,
• 27:29
  like,
• 27:30
  this
• 27:30
  picture
• 27:30
  frame
• 27:31
  of
• 27:31
  him
• 27:31
  and
• 27:31
  the
• 27:31
  Hells
• 27:32
  Angels.
• 27:32
  He
• 27:32
  was
• 27:32
  like,
• 27:32
  I
• 27:32
  used
• 27:32
  to
• 27:32
  be
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  Hell
• 27:33
  what?
• 27:34
  Like
• 27:34
  part
• 27:34
  of
• 27:34
  the
• 27:35
  Hell's
• 27:35
  Angels.
• 27:35
  And
• 27:35
  I
• 27:35
  was
• 27:35
  like,
• 27:36
  oh,
• 27:36
  this
• 27:37
  is.
• 27:37
  This
• 27:37
  is
• 27:37
  where
• 27:37
  this
• 27:37
  ends.
• 27:38
  Okay.
• 27:39
  But,
• 27:39
  you
• 27:39
  know,
• 27:39
  I
• 27:39
  was
• 27:40
  just,
• 27:40
  like,
• 27:40
  shocked.
• 27:41
  I
• 27:41
  was
• 27:41
  like,
• 27:41
  what
• 27:41
  do
• 27:41
  I
• 27:42
  do?
• 27:42
  What
• 27:42
  do
• 27:42
  I
• 27:42
  say?
• 27:42
  No,
• 27:42
  I'm
• 27:42
  like.
• 27:43
  But
• 27:43
  he
• 27:43
  was
• 27:43
  super
• 27:43
  nice,
• 27:44
  you
• 27:44
  know?
• 27:44
  He,
• 27:44
  like,
• 27:44
  gave
• 27:44
  me
• 27:44
  a
• 27:45
  beer,
• 27:45
  and
• 27:45
  he's
• 27:45
  like,
• 27:45
  we
• 27:45
  dropped
• 27:46
  around
• 27:46
  the
• 27:46
  house,
• 27:46
  and
• 27:47
  he's
• 27:47
  like,
• 27:47
  you
• 27:47
  see
• 27:47
  that?
• 27:47
  I'm
• 27:47
  gonna,
• 27:48
  like,
• 27:48
  that's
• 27:48
  my
• 27:48
  old,
• 27:49
  you
• 27:49
  know,
• 27:49
  57
• 27:49
  Chevy.
• 27:50
  Whatever.
• 27:50
  I'm
• 27:50
  building
• 27:50
  that
• 27:51
  up.
• 27:51
  And
• 27:51
  he
• 27:51
  goes,
• 27:51
  I
• 27:51
  worked
• 27:52
  for
• 27:52
  all
• 27:52
  of
• 27:52
  this.
• 27:52
  He
• 27:52
  Goes,
• 27:53
  I
• 27:53
  got
• 27:53
  out
• 27:53
  of
• 27:53
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• 27:53
  Hell's
• 27:53
  Angels,
• 27:54
  and
• 27:54
  you
• 27:55
  don't
• 27:55
  just
• 27:55
  walk
• 27:55
  out
• 27:55
  of
• 27:55
  the
• 27:56
  Hell's
• 27:56
  Angels
• 27:56
  with
• 27:56
  all
• 27:57
  of
• 27:57
  your
• 27:57
  stuff.
• 27:57
  He's
• 27:57
  like,
• 27:57
  I
• 27:58
  had
• 27:58
  to
• 27:58
  work
• 27:58
  for
• 27:58
  it.
• 27:58
  Like,
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  had
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  do,
• 27:59
  like,
• 28:00
  I
• 28:00
  paid
• 28:00
  my,
• 28:00
  my
• 28:01
  tolls.
• 28:01
  He's
• 28:01
  like,
• 28:01
  I've
• 28:01
  got
• 28:02
  five
• 28:02
  kids,
• 28:02
  like
• 28:03
  three
• 28:03
  different
• 28:03
  moms,
• 28:04
  but
• 28:05
  he
• 28:05
  was
• 28:05
  like,
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  take
• 28:05
  care
• 28:06
  of
• 28:06
  all
• 28:06
  my
• 28:06
  children.
• 28:06
  He's
• 28:07
  like,
• 28:07
  I'm
• 28:07
  not
• 28:07
  just
• 28:07
  talking
• 28:07
  child
• 28:08
  support.
• 28:08
  He's
• 28:08
  like,
• 28:08
  if
• 28:09
  they
• 28:09
  need
• 28:09
  food,
• 28:09
  I
• 28:09
  go
• 28:09
  to
• 28:10
  their
• 28:10
  house,
• 28:10
  I
• 28:10
  take
• 28:10
  them
• 28:10
  to
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  store.
• 28:11
  I
• 28:12
  take
• 28:12
  them
• 28:12
  to
• 28:12
  the
• 28:12
  store
• 28:12
  to
• 28:12
  clothe
• 28:13
  them.
• 28:13
  Like,
• 28:13
  I'm
• 28:13
  at
• 28:13
  every
• 28:14
  sports
• 28:14
  event.
• 28:14
  He's
• 28:14
  like,
• 28:15
  I'm
• 28:15
  there.
• 28:16
  And
• 28:16
  like,
• 28:16
  he
• 28:16
  just
• 28:17
  goes
• 28:17
  through
• 28:17
  this
• 28:17
  thing
• 28:17
  and
• 28:17
  he's
• 28:18
  just
• 28:18
  like,
• 28:19
  you
• 28:19
  need
• 28:19
  to
• 28:19
  get
• 28:20
  a
• 28:20
  real
• 28:20
  job.
• 28:21
  Wow.
• 28:22
  And
• 28:22
  he
• 28:22
  goes,
• 28:22
  I
• 28:22
  work
• 28:22
  at
• 28:23
  this
• 28:23
  concrete
• 28:23
  plant.
• 28:24
  He
• 28:24
  goes,
• 28:24
  work
• 28:24
  your
• 28:24
  way
• 28:24
  up.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:25
  he's
• 28:25
  like,
• 28:25
  come
• 28:25
  up.
• 28:25
  You're
• 28:25
  going
• 28:26
  to
• 28:26
  be
• 28:26
  sweeping
• 28:26
  floors,
• 28:26
  but
• 28:27
  you
• 28:27
  work
• 28:27
  your
• 28:27
  way
• 28:27
  up
• 28:27
  and
• 28:27
  you
• 28:28
  can
• 28:28
  be
• 28:28
  somebody
• 28:28
  someday.
• 28:29
  And
• 28:29
  he's
• 28:29
  like,
• 28:29
  just.
• 28:29
  Just
• 28:29
  get
• 28:30
  a
• 28:30
  real
• 28:30
  job
• 28:30
  and
• 28:30
  take
• 28:30
  care
• 28:30
  of
• 28:31
  your
• 28:31
  family.
• 28:31
  And
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  was
• 28:31
  like,
• 28:32
  wow.
• 28:32
  And
• 28:32
  so
• 28:33
  that
• 28:33
  just
• 28:33
  really
• 28:33
  hit
• 28:33
  home.
• 28:34
  So
• 28:34
  that's
• 28:34
  how
• 28:34
  I
• 28:34
  ended
• 28:35
  up
• 28:35
  in
• 28:35
  the,
• 28:35
  in
• 28:35
  the
• 28:35
  warehouse.
• 28:37
  And
• 28:38
  I
• 28:38
  was
• 28:38
  there
• 28:38
  for
• 28:38
  about
• 28:39
  a
• 28:39
  year.
• 28:39
  I
• 28:39
  didn't
• 28:40
  know
• 28:40
  that.
• 28:40
  I
• 28:40
  remember
• 28:41
  the
• 28:41
  little
• 28:41
  insurance.
• 28:42
  Yeah,
• 28:43
  there's.
• 28:44
  What
• 28:44
  a
• 28:44
  life
• 28:44
  changing
• 28:45
  moment.
• 28:45
  I
• 28:45
  know.
• 28:45
  So
• 28:46
  that
• 28:46
  really
• 28:46
  kind
• 28:46
  of
• 28:46
  set
• 28:46
  me
• 28:47
  on
• 28:47
  a
• 28:47
  better
• 28:47
  path.
• 28:47
  But
• 28:48
  yeah,
• 28:49
  so
• 28:49
  I
• 28:49
  was
• 28:49
  working
• 28:49
  in
• 28:49
  this
• 28:49
  warehouse
• 28:50
  and
• 28:50
  I
• 28:50
  still,
• 28:50
  you
• 28:51
  know,
• 28:51
  I
• 28:51
  wasn't
• 28:51
  happy.
• 28:51
  I'm
• 28:51
  like,
• 28:53
  ended
• 28:53
  up
• 28:54
  being
• 28:54
  a
• 28:54
  really
• 28:54
  good
• 28:54
  decision
• 28:55
  because
• 28:55
  Covid
• 28:55
  hit
• 28:55
  about
• 28:56
  a
• 28:56
  year
• 28:56
  or
• 28:56
  two
• 28:56
  after
• 28:57
  that.
• 28:57
  And
• 28:58
  so
• 28:58
  that.
• 28:59
  That
• 28:59
  company
• 28:59
  pretty
• 28:59
  much
• 29:00
  just
• 29:00
  went
• 29:00
  away.
• 29:00
  But
• 29:01
  I
• 29:02
  remember
• 29:02
  sitting
• 29:02
  on
• 29:02
  my
• 29:03
  lunch
• 29:03
  break
• 29:03
  one
• 29:03
  day
• 29:03
  on
• 29:03
  a
• 29:04
  computer
• 29:04
  and
• 29:04
  just
• 29:04
  going,
• 29:04
  I
• 29:05
  need
• 29:05
  to,
• 29:05
  like,
• 29:06
  I'm
• 29:06
  just
• 29:06
  not
• 29:07
  happy.
• 29:07
  I
• 29:07
  need
• 29:07
  to
• 29:07
  find
• 29:07
  something.
• 29:08
  So
• 29:08
  I
• 29:08
  started
• 29:08
  Googling,
• 29:09
  like,
• 29:09
  artistic
• 29:09
  jobs,
• 29:10
  you
• 29:10
  know,
• 29:11
  that
• 29:11
  pay
• 29:11
  and
• 29:11
  da,
• 29:11
  da,
• 29:11
  da,
• 29:12
  da.
• 29:12
  And
• 29:12
  like
• 29:12
  music
• 29:13
  therapy
• 29:13
  pops
• 29:13
  up.
• 29:14
  And
• 29:15
  I
• 29:16
  didn't
• 29:16
  even
• 29:17
  need
• 29:17
  to
• 29:17
  know
• 29:17
  what
• 29:17
  it
• 29:18
  was
• 29:18
  or
• 29:18
  hadn't
• 29:18
  any
• 29:19
  clue
• 29:19
  what
• 29:20
  it
• 29:20
  was.
• 29:20
  I
• 29:20
  was
• 29:20
  just
• 29:20
  like,
• 29:21
  that's
• 29:21
  it.
• 29:21
  That's
• 29:21
  what
• 29:21
  I
• 29:22
  gotta
• 29:22
  do.
• 29:22
  And
• 29:23
  so
• 29:23
  I
• 29:23
  started
• 29:23
  Googling
• 29:23
  about
• 29:24
  it,
• 29:24
  learning
• 29:24
  more
• 29:24
  about
• 29:25
  it.
• 29:26
  And
• 29:26
  so
• 29:26
  I
• 29:26
  was
• 29:27
  like,
• 29:27
  all
• 29:27
  right.
• 29:27
  So
• 29:27
  I
• 29:27
  looked
• 29:27
  at,
• 29:28
  Started
• 29:28
  looking
• 29:28
  into
• 29:28
  schools
• 29:29
  and
• 29:29
  I
• 29:29
  found
• 29:29
  Texas
• 29:29
  Women's
• 29:30
  University.
• 29:31
  I
• 29:31
  enrolled
• 29:32
  and
• 29:33
  I
• 29:33
  was.
• 29:33
  And
• 29:34
  yeah,
• 29:34
  from
• 29:34
  there
• 29:35
  on
• 29:35
  end,
• 29:35
  they
• 29:35
  just.
• 29:36
  It
• 29:36
  just
• 29:37
  kind
• 29:37
  of
• 29:37
  took
• 29:37
  off.
• 29:38
  So.
• 29:39
  Okay,
• 29:40
  tell
• 29:40
  us
• 29:41
  what
• 29:41
  a
• 29:41
  musical
• 29:41
  therapist
• 29:42
  does.
• 29:42
  I.
• 29:42
  I
• 29:43
  was
• 29:43
  reading
• 29:43
  a
• 29:43
  little
• 29:43
  bit,
• 29:44
  trying
• 29:44
  to
• 29:44
  see,
• 29:45
  and
• 29:45
  it
• 29:45
  sounds
• 29:46
  like
• 29:46
  there's
• 29:46
  four
• 29:46
  different
• 29:47
  types
• 29:47
  of
• 29:47
  musical
• 29:48
  therapy.
• 29:48
  Four
• 29:49
  different
• 29:49
  Types.
• 29:50
  Okay,
• 29:50
  yes.
• 29:51
  Tell
• 29:51
  me
• 29:51
  if
• 29:52
  I'm,
• 29:52
  you
• 29:52
  know,
• 29:53
  this
• 29:53
  is
• 29:53
  all
• 29:53
  my
• 29:53
  really
• 29:54
  good
• 29:54
  knowledge
• 29:54
  off
• 29:54
  the
• 29:54
  Internet
• 29:55
  after
• 29:55
  Google.
• 29:56
  So
• 29:57
  compositional.
• 29:58
  Okay.
• 29:58
  Improvisational,
• 30:01
  receptive
• 30:03
  and
• 30:04
  recreative.
• 30:05
  Does
• 30:05
  that,
• 30:06
  does
• 30:06
  those
• 30:06
  ring
• 30:06
  a
• 30:06
  bell?
• 30:07
  Yes,
• 30:07
  absolutely.
• 30:09
  Those
• 30:09
  are
• 30:09
  four.
• 30:09
  Yeah,
• 30:10
  those
• 30:10
  are
• 30:10
  the
• 30:10
  four
• 30:10
  kind
• 30:10
  of
• 30:10
  like
• 30:11
  methods
• 30:11
  of
• 30:12
  what
• 30:12
  a
• 30:12
  music
• 30:12
  therapy
• 30:13
  does.
• 30:13
  And
• 30:13
  they
• 30:13
  can
• 30:13
  be
• 30:14
  used
• 30:14
  in
• 30:14
  any
• 30:15
  kind
• 30:15
  of
• 30:15
  modality
• 30:15
  and
• 30:16
  any
• 30:16
  kind
• 30:16
  of
• 30:17
  population.
• 30:18
  So
• 30:18
  music
• 30:19
  therapy
• 30:19
  is
• 30:19
  basically,
• 30:21
  it's
• 30:22
  an
• 30:22
  evidence,
• 30:22
  Evidence
• 30:23
  based
• 30:23
  practice
• 30:24
  that
• 30:24
  uses
• 30:25
  musical
• 30:26
  means
• 30:26
  to
• 30:26
  achieve
• 30:27
  therapeutic
• 30:27
  goals.
• 30:28
  So
• 30:28
  you
• 30:28
  can
• 30:29
  take
• 30:29
  any
• 30:29
  kind
• 30:29
  of,
• 30:29
  you
• 30:30
  know,
• 30:30
  your
• 30:30
  traditional
• 30:30
  therapies,
• 30:32
  whatever
• 30:33
  they
• 30:33
  are,
• 30:33
  and
• 30:34
  just
• 30:35
  put
• 30:35
  music
• 30:35
  into
• 30:36
  it
• 30:36
  basically
• 30:37
  to
• 30:37
  achieve
• 30:37
  what
• 30:37
  you
• 30:38
  want
• 30:38
  to
• 30:38
  achieve.
• 30:39
  So
• 30:39
  talk
• 30:39
  therapy
• 30:40
  would
• 30:40
  use
• 30:40
  talk
• 30:40
  to
• 30:41
  kind
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  get
• 30:41
  to
• 30:41
  some
• 30:42
  of
• 30:42
  the
• 30:42
  mental
• 30:42
  health
• 30:42
  issues
• 30:43
  that
• 30:43
  people
• 30:43
  are
• 30:44
  struggling
• 30:44
  with.
• 30:45
  With
• 30:45
  a
• 30:45
  music
• 30:45
  therapist,
• 30:46
  we
• 30:46
  just
• 30:46
  use
• 30:46
  music,
• 30:47
  you
• 30:47
  know,
• 30:47
  and
• 30:47
  that
• 30:47
  can
• 30:47
  look
• 30:48
  like
• 30:48
  we
• 30:48
  can
• 30:48
  use.
• 30:49
  We
• 30:49
  do
• 30:49
  a
• 30:49
  lot
• 30:49
  of,
• 30:49
  like,
• 30:50
  lyric
• 30:50
  analysis.
• 30:51
  We
• 30:51
  will
• 30:51
  play
• 30:52
  a
• 30:52
  song
• 30:52
  to
• 30:52
  see
• 30:52
  if,
• 30:53
  you
• 30:53
  know,
• 30:53
  something
• 30:54
  will
• 30:54
  hit
• 30:54
  home
• 30:54
  with
• 30:55
  patients
• 30:55
  and
• 30:56
  they'll
• 30:56
  be
• 30:56
  like,
• 30:56
  oh,
• 30:57
  yeah,
• 30:57
  this
• 30:57
  is
• 30:57
  exactly
• 30:57
  what
• 30:58
  I'm
• 30:58
  trying
• 30:58
  to
• 30:58
  say,
• 30:59
  you
• 30:59
  know,
• 30:59
  because
• 31:00
  some
• 31:00
  people
• 31:00
  just
• 31:01
  struggle
• 31:01
  with
• 31:02
  trying
• 31:03
  to
• 31:04
  express
• 31:04
  themselves
• 31:06
  with
• 31:07
  their
• 31:07
  own
• 31:07
  words,
• 31:07
  but
• 31:07
  they
• 31:07
  hear
• 31:07
  a
• 31:08
  song
• 31:08
  and
• 31:08
  they're
• 31:08
  like,
• 31:08
  oh,
• 31:08
  yeah,
• 31:09
  that's
• 31:09
  exactly
• 31:09
  what
• 31:10
  I'm
• 31:10
  trying
• 31:10
  to
• 31:10
  say.
• 31:10
  That's
• 31:10
  it.
• 31:11
  You
• 31:11
  know,
• 31:12
  so
• 31:12
  is
• 31:12
  this
• 31:12
  when
• 31:12
  you
• 31:13
  sit
• 31:13
  down
• 31:13
  with
• 31:13
  your
• 31:14
  musical
• 31:14
  therapist
• 31:15
  and
• 31:15
  then
• 31:15
  they
• 31:16
  maybe
• 31:16
  the
• 31:16
  therapist
• 31:17
  would
• 31:17
  typically
• 31:17
  ask,
• 31:18
  is
• 31:18
  there
• 31:18
  a
• 31:18
  song
• 31:18
  this
• 31:19
  week
• 31:19
  that's
• 31:19
  been
• 31:19
  stuck
• 31:19
  in
• 31:19
  your
• 31:20
  head?
• 31:20
  And
• 31:20
  then
• 31:20
  you
• 31:20
  just
• 31:21
  kind
• 31:21
  of
• 31:22
  analyze
• 31:23
  the
• 31:23
  aspects
• 31:24
  of
• 31:24
  that
• 31:24
  song
• 31:24
  to
• 31:24
  kind
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  see
• 31:25
  why
• 31:25
  that's
• 31:25
  the
• 31:25
  song
• 31:26
  that's
• 31:26
  been
• 31:26
  speaking
• 31:26
  to
• 31:26
  you
• 31:26
  that
• 31:27
  week.
• 31:27
  Kind
• 31:27
  of.
• 31:28
  That
• 31:28
  too.
• 31:28
  Yeah.
• 31:30
  Part
• 31:30
  of
• 31:30
  the
• 31:30
  music
• 31:30
  therapist's
• 31:31
  job
• 31:31
  is
• 31:31
  to.
• 31:32
  Is
• 31:32
  to
• 31:32
  kind
• 31:32
  of
• 31:32
  seek
• 31:32
  out
• 31:32
  that
• 31:33
  music
• 31:33
  and
• 31:33
  be
• 31:33
  like,
• 31:34
  you
• 31:34
  know,
• 31:34
  because
• 31:34
  we,
• 31:35
  you
• 31:35
  know,
• 31:35
  we'll
• 31:35
  start
• 31:35
  with
• 31:36
  conversation
• 31:36
  and
• 31:36
  be
• 31:36
  like,
• 31:37
  tell
• 31:37
  me
• 31:37
  what
• 31:37
  you're,
• 31:37
  like,
• 31:38
  struggling
• 31:38
  with.
• 31:38
  What
• 31:38
  are
• 31:38
  your
• 31:39
  goals?
• 31:39
  Like,
• 31:39
  you
• 31:40
  know,
• 31:40
  give
• 31:40
  me
• 31:40
  some
• 31:40
  backgrounds
• 31:41
  from
• 31:41
  your
• 31:41
  past.
• 31:42
  This,
• 31:43
  this
• 31:43
  is
• 31:43
  an
• 31:43
  area
• 31:43
  where
• 31:44
  I,
• 31:44
  I
• 31:44
  really,
• 31:44
  absolutely
• 31:45
  love
• 31:46
  this
• 31:47
  kind
• 31:47
  of
• 31:47
  work
• 31:47
  because,
• 31:48
  like,
• 31:48
  I
• 31:48
  kind
• 31:48
  of
• 31:49
  pride
• 31:49
  myself
• 31:49
  in
• 31:49
  being
• 31:49
  like,
• 31:50
  oh,
• 31:50
  I
• 31:50
  know
• 31:50
  a
• 31:50
  lot
• 31:50
  of
• 31:51
  music,
• 31:51
  you
• 31:51
  know,
• 31:52
  so
• 31:52
  I'll
• 31:52
  try
• 31:52
  to
• 31:53
  find
• 31:53
  songs.
• 31:53
  And
• 31:53
  it's,
• 31:54
  you
• 31:54
  know,
• 31:54
  it's
• 31:54
  hit
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  miss.
• 31:55
  Like,
• 31:55
  sometimes
• 31:56
  you
• 31:56
  bring
• 31:56
  up
• 31:56
  a
• 31:57
  song
• 31:57
  and
• 31:57
  they're
• 31:57
  like,
• 31:57
  no.
• 31:58
  I'm
• 31:58
  like,
• 31:58
  okay,
• 31:59
  well,
• 32:00
  and
• 32:00
  sometimes
• 32:01
  it
• 32:01
  does
• 32:01
  hit
• 32:03
  an
• 32:04
  example
• 32:05
  in
• 32:05
  my.
• 32:05
  I
• 32:05
  went
• 32:05
  to
• 32:05
  an
• 32:06
  internship
• 32:06
  in
• 32:07
  Utah,
• 32:07
  in
• 32:07
  Logan,
• 32:07
  Utah,
• 32:09
  and
• 32:09
  worked
• 32:09
  for
• 32:09
  a
• 32:09
  private
• 32:10
  practice.
• 32:10
  And
• 32:10
  it
• 32:10
  was
• 32:11
  a
• 32:11
  very
• 32:11
  broad
• 32:12
  practice.
• 32:13
  Like,
• 32:13
  we
• 32:13
  had
• 32:13
  everything
• 32:13
  from,
• 32:13
  like
• 32:14
  hospice
• 32:14
  patients
• 32:15
  to
• 32:15
  working
• 32:15
  with
• 32:15
  autistic
• 32:16
  kids.
• 32:17
  We
• 32:17
  had
• 32:17
  a
• 32:17
  sexual
• 32:17
  Addictions
• 32:18
  group.
• 32:18
  We
• 32:19
  worked
• 32:19
  in
• 32:19
  nursing
• 32:20
  homes.
• 32:22
  We.
• 32:23
  Wow.
• 32:23
  What
• 32:23
  was
• 32:24
  the
• 32:24
  practice?
• 32:25
  It
• 32:25
  was.
• 32:26
  It
• 32:26
  was
• 32:26
  a
• 32:26
  musical
• 32:26
  therapy
• 32:27
  practice.
• 32:27
  Yeah,
• 32:28
  it
• 32:29
  was
• 32:29
  called
• 32:29
  overly
• 32:29
  musical.
• 32:30
  Yeah,
• 32:31
  it's
• 32:31
  placed.
• 32:32
  Yeah.
• 32:32
  Heather
• 32:33
  Overly.
• 32:33
  She
• 32:34
  was
• 32:34
  amazing.
• 32:34
  She
• 32:34
  had.
• 32:35
  At
• 32:36
  the
• 32:36
  time,
• 32:36
  she
• 32:36
  had
• 32:36
  one
• 32:36
  other
• 32:37
  employee,
• 32:37
  and,
• 32:37
  like,
• 32:38
  there
• 32:38
  were.
• 32:38
  There's
• 32:38
  always
• 32:38
  two
• 32:39
  interns.
• 32:39
  There
• 32:39
  was,
• 32:39
  like,
• 32:39
  a
• 32:39
  junior
• 32:40
  and
• 32:40
  a
• 32:40
  senior
• 32:40
  intern.
• 32:41
  Okay.
• 32:42
  So
• 32:43
  a
• 32:43
  fun
• 32:44
  story
• 32:44
  that
• 32:44
  I.
• 32:45
  I
• 32:45
  love
• 32:45
  to
• 32:46
  tell
• 32:46
  was
• 32:46
  when
• 32:46
  we
• 32:46
  were
• 32:46
  in
• 32:46
  their
• 32:47
  sexual
• 32:47
  addictions
• 32:48
  group,
• 32:48
  and
• 32:49
  we
• 32:49
  had
• 32:50
  this
• 32:50
  one
• 32:51
  patient
• 32:51
  that
• 32:51
  I
• 32:51
  just
• 32:52
  could
• 32:52
  not
• 32:52
  get
• 32:52
  through
• 32:52
  with.
• 32:53
  He
• 32:53
  did
• 32:53
  not
• 32:53
  want
• 32:53
  to
• 32:53
  be
• 32:53
  there,
• 32:54
  and
• 32:54
  he
• 32:54
  was
• 32:55
  just
• 32:55
  constantly
• 32:56
  grumpy.
• 32:56
  So
• 32:56
  we
• 32:56
  do
• 32:57
  these,
• 32:57
  you
• 32:57
  know,
• 32:57
  exercises
• 32:58
  and,
• 32:59
  like,
• 32:59
  these
• 32:59
  interventions,
• 33:00
  and
• 33:00
  nothing
• 33:00
  was
• 33:01
  ever
• 33:01
  hitting
• 33:01
  home
• 33:01
  with
• 33:01
  him.
• 33:02
  And
• 33:03
  so
• 33:03
  one
• 33:03
  day
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  was
• 33:04
  like,
• 33:05
  maybe
• 33:05
  we'll
• 33:05
  just
• 33:05
  have
• 33:05
  a
• 33:05
  jam
• 33:06
  session.
• 33:06
  We'll
• 33:06
  just
• 33:06
  have
• 33:06
  a
• 33:07
  drum
• 33:07
  circle,
• 33:07
  right?
• 33:07
  So
• 33:07
  we
• 33:08
  bring
• 33:08
  all
• 33:08
  these
• 33:08
  percussion
• 33:09
  instruments
• 33:10
  and
• 33:10
  go
• 33:10
  get
• 33:11
  Jerry.
• 33:11
  Yeah,
• 33:11
  look
• 33:11
  at
• 33:12
  Jerry.
• 33:13
  So
• 33:13
  I
• 33:14
  started
• 33:14
  leading
• 33:14
  it,
• 33:14
  right?
• 33:15
  And
• 33:15
  I'm
• 33:15
  like,
• 33:15
  playing.
• 33:15
  It
• 33:16
  was
• 33:16
  like,
• 33:16
  all
• 33:16
  right,
• 33:16
  here's
• 33:16
  the
• 33:17
  rules.
• 33:17
  Like,
• 33:17
  you
• 33:17
  have
• 33:17
  to
• 33:17
  play
• 33:18
  with
• 33:18
  me.
• 33:18
  You
• 33:18
  have
• 33:18
  to
• 33:19
  switch
• 33:19
  out
• 33:19
  your
• 33:19
  instruments
• 33:19
  at
• 33:20
  least
• 33:20
  twice.
• 33:20
  You
• 33:21
  know,
• 33:21
  all
• 33:21
  these
• 33:21
  things.
• 33:21
  And
• 33:22
  so
• 33:22
  I'm
• 33:22
  watching
• 33:23
  the
• 33:23
  participants
• 33:24
  and,
• 33:24
  like,
• 33:25
  seeing
• 33:26
  how
• 33:26
  they're
• 33:26
  feeling.
• 33:26
  Like,
• 33:27
  if
• 33:27
  I
• 33:27
  can
• 33:27
  get
• 33:27
  any
• 33:27
  feedback
• 33:28
  from
• 33:28
  them,
• 33:28
  like,
• 33:28
  if
• 33:28
  they're
• 33:29
  opening
• 33:29
  up,
• 33:29
  we
• 33:30
  try
• 33:30
  to
• 33:30
  look,
• 33:30
  like,
• 33:30
  at
• 33:30
  their
• 33:31
  body
• 33:31
  language,
• 33:31
  you
• 33:32
  know,
• 33:32
  if
• 33:32
  they're
• 33:32
  getting
• 33:32
  into
• 33:33
  it,
• 33:33
  like,
• 33:33
  if
• 33:33
  they're
• 33:33
  holding
• 33:34
  back,
• 33:34
  you
• 33:34
  know,
• 33:34
  just
• 33:34
  kind
• 33:35
  of
• 33:35
  gauge
• 33:35
  how
• 33:35
  they're
• 33:36
  feeling
• 33:36
  based
• 33:36
  on
• 33:37
  what
• 33:37
  they're
• 33:37
  showing
• 33:38
  is.
• 33:39
  And,
• 33:40
  like,
• 33:40
  I'd
• 33:40
  switch
• 33:41
  out
• 33:41
  an
• 33:41
  instrument,
• 33:41
  and,
• 33:42
  like,
• 33:42
  this
• 33:42
  guy
• 33:42
  would
• 33:42
  switch
• 33:42
  out.
• 33:43
  He
• 33:43
  kept
• 33:43
  going.
• 33:43
  And
• 33:43
  I
• 33:44
  was
• 33:44
  unsure
• 33:45
  about,
• 33:45
  like,
• 33:45
  how
• 33:46
  it
• 33:46
  was
• 33:46
  going
• 33:46
  because
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  couldn't
• 33:47
  quite
• 33:47
  read
• 33:47
  them.
• 33:47
  And
• 33:47
  he
• 33:47
  was
• 33:47
  like.
• 33:49
  And
• 33:49
  then.
• 33:49
  So
• 33:49
  afterwards,
• 33:50
  when
• 33:50
  we're
• 33:50
  done,
• 33:51
  I
• 33:51
  said,
• 33:51
  all
• 33:51
  right,
• 33:52
  how
• 33:52
  is
• 33:52
  that?
• 33:52
  Like,
• 33:52
  give
• 33:52
  me
• 33:52
  some
• 33:53
  feedback.
• 33:53
  How
• 33:53
  do
• 33:53
  you
• 33:53
  guys
• 33:53
  feel
• 33:54
  about
• 33:54
  what
• 33:54
  happened?
• 33:54
  He
• 33:54
  just
• 33:55
  goes,
• 33:55
  that
• 33:56
  sucked.
• 33:58
  Okay,
• 33:59
  that's
• 33:59
  valid.
• 34:00
  Yeah,
• 34:00
  this
• 34:00
  is
• 34:00
  cool.
• 34:00
  That's
• 34:01
  all
• 34:01
  right.
• 34:01
  You
• 34:01
  know,
• 34:01
  Speak
• 34:01
  your
• 34:01
  mind,
• 34:02
  please.
• 34:02
  Like,
• 34:02
  this
• 34:02
  is
• 34:02
  what.
• 34:03
  Okay,
• 34:03
  okay.
• 34:04
  So
• 34:04
  my
• 34:04
  internship
• 34:05
  director
• 34:05
  later
• 34:06
  told
• 34:06
  me,
• 34:06
  she's
• 34:06
  like,
• 34:07
  every
• 34:07
  time
• 34:07
  you
• 34:07
  switched
• 34:07
  an
• 34:08
  instrument.
• 34:08
  And
• 34:08
  he
• 34:08
  had
• 34:08
  to.
• 34:09
  He
• 34:09
  just
• 34:09
  goes.
• 34:12
  He
• 34:13
  just
• 34:13
  wanted
• 34:13
  it
• 34:13
  to
• 34:13
  end.
• 34:13
  I
• 34:14
  was
• 34:14
  like,
• 34:14
  okay.
• 34:14
  So
• 34:14
  that
• 34:14
  wasn't
• 34:15
  it.
• 34:15
  The
• 34:16
  following
• 34:16
  week,
• 34:17
  I
• 34:17
  brought
• 34:17
  in
• 34:17
  this
• 34:18
  song.
• 34:19
  The
• 34:19
  song
• 34:19
  was
• 34:19
  A
• 34:20
  little
• 34:20
  Hell
• 34:20
  by
• 34:20
  City
• 34:21
  and
• 34:21
  Color.
• 34:21
  Excellent
• 34:22
  song.
• 34:22
  Check
• 34:22
  it
• 34:22
  out.
• 34:23
  Okay.
• 34:23
  It
• 34:24
  talks
• 34:24
  about
• 34:24
  relationships
• 34:25
  and
• 34:25
  how
• 34:25
  it
• 34:26
  can
• 34:26
  be
• 34:26
  difficult
• 34:26
  because
• 34:27
  the
• 34:27
  person,
• 34:28
  from
• 34:28
  his
• 34:29
  perspective,
• 34:29
  he
• 34:30
  talks
• 34:30
  about.
• 34:30
  He's
• 34:30
  like,
• 34:30
  I
• 34:31
  have
• 34:31
  addictions.
• 34:31
  It's
• 34:31
  going
• 34:31
  to
• 34:31
  be
• 34:32
  hard,
• 34:32
  but
• 34:32
  I'm,
• 34:33
  like,
• 34:33
  doing
• 34:33
  my
• 34:33
  best,
• 34:34
  you
• 34:34
  know,
• 34:34
  And
• 34:34
  I
• 34:34
  wish
• 34:34
  we
• 34:35
  could
• 34:35
  go
• 34:35
  back
• 34:35
  to
• 34:35
  a
• 34:35
  time
• 34:36
  where
• 34:36
  everything
• 34:36
  was
• 34:36
  harmonious
• 34:37
  and
• 34:37
  beautiful.
• 34:38
  So
• 34:39
  I
• 34:39
  play
• 34:39
  that
• 34:39
  song,
• 34:40
  and
• 34:41
  I
• 34:41
  was
• 34:41
  like,
• 34:41
  how
• 34:41
  did
• 34:42
  everybody
• 34:42
  feel
• 34:42
  about
• 34:42
  that?
• 34:42
  You're
• 34:43
  like,
• 34:43
  let's
• 34:43
  talk
• 34:43
  about
• 34:43
  the
• 34:43
  lyrics.
• 34:44
  You
• 34:44
  know
• 34:44
  what.
• 34:44
  What
• 34:44
  lyrics
• 34:45
  stood
• 34:45
  out
• 34:45
  to
• 34:45
  you?
• 34:45
  And,
• 34:45
  like,
• 34:45
  one
• 34:46
  guy
• 34:46
  over
• 34:46
  here
• 34:46
  was
• 34:46
  crying.
• 34:47
  Like,
• 34:47
  some
• 34:47
  other
• 34:47
  people
• 34:48
  were,
• 34:48
  like,
• 34:48
  contemplative.
• 34:49
  And
• 34:49
  the
• 34:49
  guy
• 34:50
  that
• 34:50
  I
• 34:50
  was
• 34:50
  trying
• 34:50
  to
• 34:50
  get
• 34:50
  through
• 34:51
  didn't
• 34:51
  say
• 34:51
  anything.
• 34:51
  He
• 34:52
  just
• 34:52
  kind
• 34:52
  of,
• 34:52
  like,
• 34:52
  sat
• 34:52
  there
• 34:52
  and
• 34:53
  was
• 34:53
  like.
• 34:54
  So
• 34:54
  I
• 34:54
  was
• 34:54
  like,
• 34:54
  okay.
• 34:55
  Don't
• 34:55
  know
• 34:55
  how
• 34:55
  that
• 34:55
  went.
• 34:56
  And
• 34:56
  then
• 34:57
  the
• 34:57
  next
• 34:58
  session,
• 34:58
  we
• 34:58
  come
• 34:58
  in,
• 35:00
  and
• 35:01
  we're
• 35:01
  talking,
• 35:01
  and
• 35:01
  he's.
• 35:02
  He's
• 35:02
  super
• 35:02
  quiet.
• 35:02
  He's
• 35:03
  not
• 35:03
  saying
• 35:03
  a
• 35:03
  word.
• 35:04
  And
• 35:04
  I
• 35:04
  look
• 35:04
  at
• 35:04
  him.
• 35:05
  I
• 35:05
  was
• 35:05
  like,
• 35:05
  do
• 35:05
  you
• 35:05
  have
• 35:05
  anything
• 35:06
  to
• 35:06
  say?
• 35:06
  And
• 35:06
  he
• 35:06
  just
• 35:06
  kind
• 35:06
  of
• 35:06
  sits
• 35:07
  there
• 35:07
  for
• 35:07
  a
• 35:07
  minute,
• 35:07
  and
• 35:07
  he
• 35:07
  pulls
• 35:07
  out
• 35:08
  this
• 35:08
  binder,
• 35:08
  and
• 35:09
  he
• 35:09
  goes,
• 35:10
  I
• 35:10
  wrote
• 35:10
  some
• 35:10
  poems.
• 35:11
  I
• 35:11
  want
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  read
• 35:11
  them
• 35:11
  to
• 35:11
  you.
• 35:12
  And
• 35:12
  I
• 35:12
  was
• 35:12
  like,
• 35:12
  oh,
• 35:13
  what?
• 35:14
  Amazing.
• 35:15
  Yeah.
• 35:15
  So
• 35:15
  he
• 35:15
  reads
• 35:16
  this,
• 35:16
  like,
• 35:16
  song
• 35:16
  or
• 35:17
  poem,
• 35:17
  and
• 35:17
  it
• 35:18
  was
• 35:18
  just
• 35:18
  beautiful.
• 35:18
  Like,
• 35:19
  he
• 35:19
  just
• 35:19
  poured
• 35:19
  his
• 35:19
  heart
• 35:19
  out
• 35:20
  on
• 35:20
  this
• 35:20
  paper.
• 35:20
  And
• 35:20
  I
• 35:20
  was
• 35:20
  like,
• 35:21
  that
• 35:21
  what?
• 35:21
  Incredible.
• 35:22
  Thank
• 35:22
  you
• 35:22
  so
• 35:22
  much.
• 35:23
  You
• 35:23
  know,
• 35:23
  and
• 35:24
  he
• 35:24
  goes,
• 35:24
  I've
• 35:24
  got
• 35:24
  another
• 35:25
  one.
• 35:25
  And
• 35:25
  he
• 35:25
  read,
• 35:26
  like,
• 35:26
  304.
• 35:27
  I
• 35:27
  was
• 35:27
  like,
• 35:28
  that's
• 35:29
  it.
• 35:29
  I
• 35:29
  was
• 35:29
  like,
• 35:29
  this
• 35:29
  is
• 35:29
  what
• 35:30
  we're
• 35:30
  looking
• 35:30
  for.
• 35:31
  This
• 35:31
  is
• 35:31
  what
• 35:31
  we
• 35:31
  need.
• 35:31
  This
• 35:31
  is
• 35:32
  beautiful.
• 35:32
  So
• 35:33
  that's
• 35:33
  beautiful.
• 35:34
  And
• 35:34
  he
• 35:35
  ended
• 35:35
  up
• 35:35
  discharging,
• 35:35
  like,
• 35:35
  a
• 35:36
  couple
• 35:36
  of
• 35:36
  weeks
• 35:36
  away
• 35:36
  later.
• 35:37
  So
• 35:37
  he,
• 35:37
  like,
• 35:37
  he
• 35:37
  ended
• 35:37
  up
• 35:38
  making
• 35:38
  some
• 35:38
  progress
• 35:38
  and,
• 35:39
  like,
• 35:39
  hitting
• 35:39
  all
• 35:39
  of
• 35:39
  his.
• 35:41
  His
• 35:41
  mark,
• 35:42
  his
• 35:43
  markers,
• 35:43
  or
• 35:43
  whatever
• 35:43
  he
• 35:44
  needed
• 35:44
  to
• 35:44
  hit
• 35:44
  to
• 35:44
  get
• 35:45
  out.
• 35:45
  So.
• 35:45
  Yeah.
• 35:46
  Wow.
• 35:47
  Yeah.
• 35:48
  Interesting.
• 35:49
  And
• 35:49
  that
• 35:49
  has
• 35:49
  to
• 35:49
  feel
• 35:50
  good
• 35:50
  for
• 35:50
  you.
• 35:50
  Yeah,
• 35:51
  absolutely.
• 35:52
  Totally.
• 35:54
  Yeah.
• 35:54
  That's
• 35:54
  a
• 35:55
  really
• 35:55
  great
• 35:55
  success
• 35:55
  story.
• 35:56
  Yeah,
• 35:57
  so.
• 35:57
  Because
• 35:58
  that's
• 35:58
  actually
• 35:58
  interesting.
• 35:59
  Cause
• 35:59
  I
• 35:59
  was
• 35:59
  wondering,
• 36:00
  too.
• 36:00
  Like,
• 36:00
  one
• 36:00
  of
• 36:00
  my
• 36:01
  questions
• 36:01
  was,
• 36:01
  how
• 36:01
  do
• 36:01
  you
• 36:02
  know
• 36:02
  what
• 36:02
  kind
• 36:02
  of.
• 36:02
  What
• 36:03
  method
• 36:03
  to
• 36:03
  use
• 36:03
  for
• 36:03
  your
• 36:04
  patients?
• 36:04
  Like,
• 36:05
  how
• 36:05
  do
• 36:05
  you
• 36:05
  analyze
• 36:06
  them
• 36:06
  and
• 36:06
  decide
• 36:07
  this
• 36:07
  is
• 36:07
  what
• 36:07
  I
• 36:07
  think
• 36:07
  will
• 36:08
  work
• 36:08
  for
• 36:08
  them?
• 36:08
  But
• 36:08
  it
• 36:08
  sounds
• 36:09
  like
• 36:09
  trial
• 36:09
  and
• 36:09
  error.
• 36:10
  Maybe
• 36:10
  a
• 36:11
  lot
• 36:11
  of
• 36:11
  trial
• 36:12
  and
• 36:12
  error.
• 36:12
  Yeah.
• 36:15
  It
• 36:15
  just
• 36:15
  kind
• 36:15
  of
• 36:15
  depends
• 36:16
  on
• 36:16
  who
• 36:16
  you're
• 36:17
  working
• 36:17
  with.
• 36:17
  Like,
• 36:18
  it's
• 36:18
  such
• 36:18
  a.
• 36:18
  It's
• 36:18
  such
• 36:19
  a
• 36:19
  broad
• 36:20
  practice.
• 36:20
  Like,
• 36:21
  you
• 36:21
  can.
• 36:21
  We
• 36:22
  work
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  lot
• 36:22
  of.
• 36:22
  With
• 36:23
  people
• 36:23
  who
• 36:23
  have,
• 36:24
  like,
• 36:24
  physical
• 36:25
  disabilities,
• 36:26
  like
• 36:26
  people
• 36:26
  with
• 36:27
  Parkinson's.
• 36:28
  Speech
• 36:29
  therapists.
• 36:29
  We
• 36:29
  know.
• 36:29
  We
• 36:29
  work
• 36:29
  with
• 36:30
  speech
• 36:30
  therapists
• 36:31
  a
• 36:31
  lot.
• 36:32
  So
• 36:32
  the
• 36:33
  cool
• 36:33
  thing
• 36:33
  about.
• 36:33
  Oh,
• 36:34
  that's
• 36:34
  right.
• 36:35
  Yeah,
• 36:36
  that's
• 36:36
  right.
• 36:36
  The
• 36:37
  music
• 36:37
  therapy,
• 36:38
  it's.
• 36:39
  It.
• 36:39
  A
• 36:39
  lot
• 36:39
  of
• 36:39
  times,
• 36:40
  it's
• 36:40
  for
• 36:40
  people
• 36:40
  who
• 36:41
  aren't
• 36:42
  able
• 36:42
  to
• 36:42
  be
• 36:42
  very
• 36:42
  vocal.
• 36:44
  And
• 36:44
  so
• 36:45
  you
• 36:45
  had
• 36:45
  told
• 36:46
  us
• 36:46
  about.
• 36:46
  You
• 36:46
  were
• 36:46
  able
• 36:47
  to
• 36:48
  give
• 36:48
  people
• 36:49
  an
• 36:49
  instrument
• 36:50
  and
• 36:50
  assign
• 36:51
  them
• 36:51
  to,
• 36:51
  like,
• 36:51
  family
• 36:52
  members,
• 36:52
  and
• 36:52
  so
• 36:53
  they
• 36:53
  wouldn't
• 36:53
  even
• 36:53
  have
• 36:53
  to
• 36:53
  talk
• 36:53
  about
• 36:54
  how
• 36:54
  they
• 36:54
  feel
• 36:54
  about
• 36:54
  people.
• 36:55
  Is.
• 36:55
  Am
• 36:55
  I
• 36:55
  remembering
• 36:56
  that
• 36:56
  correctly?
• 36:56
  Yeah,
• 36:56
  absolutely.
• 36:57
  That
• 36:57
  was
• 36:57
  that
• 36:57
  same
• 36:58
  group.
• 36:58
  Yeah.
• 36:59
  So
• 36:59
  instead
• 37:00
  of
• 37:00
  using
• 37:00
  words,
• 37:01
  since
• 37:01
  people
• 37:01
  have
• 37:02
  difficulties
• 37:02
  expressing
• 37:03
  themselves
• 37:03
  that
• 37:03
  way,
• 37:03
  they
• 37:03
  can
• 37:04
  also
• 37:04
  express
• 37:04
  themselves
• 37:05
  musically.
• 37:05
  In
• 37:05
  the
• 37:06
  great
• 37:06
  thing
• 37:06
  about.
• 37:06
  Sometimes
• 37:07
  we
• 37:07
  don't
• 37:07
  know
• 37:08
  how
• 37:08
  we're
• 37:08
  feeling.
• 37:09
  Exactly.
• 37:09
  Yeah.
• 37:09
  Sometimes
• 37:10
  you
• 37:10
  just
• 37:10
  gotta,
• 37:10
  you
• 37:10
  know,
• 37:11
  jam
• 37:11
  it
• 37:11
  out
• 37:11
  on
• 37:11
  a
• 37:12
  drum
• 37:12
  or
• 37:12
  something
• 37:13
  like
• 37:13
  that.
• 37:13
  Like,
• 37:13
  you
• 37:13
  just.
• 37:14
  I'm
• 37:14
  a
• 37:15
  huge
• 37:15
  believer
• 37:15
  of
• 37:15
  free
• 37:16
  flow.
• 37:16
  Like,
• 37:16
  just
• 37:16
  let
• 37:17
  your
• 37:17
  body
• 37:17
  speak,
• 37:17
  like,
• 37:18
  move
• 37:18
  around,
• 37:19
  make
• 37:19
  noises,
• 37:19
  do
• 37:19
  whatever
• 37:20
  it
• 37:20
  is
• 37:20
  you
• 37:20
  need
• 37:20
  to
• 37:20
  do
• 37:21
  to
• 37:21
  kind
• 37:21
  of
• 37:22
  flesh
• 37:22
  out
• 37:22
  whatever
• 37:23
  is
• 37:23
  inside.
• 37:25
  But,
• 37:25
  yeah,
• 37:25
  that
• 37:26
  intervention
• 37:27
  that
• 37:27
  you're
• 37:27
  talking
• 37:27
  about
• 37:28
  is
• 37:28
  called
• 37:28
  a
• 37:28
  family
• 37:29
  dynamic.
• 37:29
  So
• 37:29
  we
• 37:29
  would
• 37:30
  bring
• 37:30
  up
• 37:30
  instruments,
• 37:31
  percussion
• 37:31
  instruments,
• 37:32
  and
• 37:32
  we
• 37:33
  would
• 37:33
  have
• 37:33
  somebody
• 37:33
  be
• 37:33
  the
• 37:33
  leader
• 37:34
  and
• 37:34
  be
• 37:34
  like,
• 37:34
  choose
• 37:34
  an
• 37:35
  instrument
• 37:35
  that
• 37:36
  represents
• 37:36
  you
• 37:37
  best
• 37:37
  and
• 37:37
  then
• 37:37
  play
• 37:37
  it
• 37:38
  in
• 37:38
  that
• 37:38
  style.
• 37:40
  Recreate
• 37:41
  yourself
• 37:41
  with
• 37:42
  this
• 37:42
  instrument.
• 37:42
  And
• 37:43
  then
• 37:43
  they
• 37:43
  had
• 37:43
  to
• 37:43
  give
• 37:43
  instruments
• 37:44
  to
• 37:44
  other
• 37:44
  participants
• 37:45
  and
• 37:46
  say,
• 37:46
  okay,
• 37:46
  you're
• 37:46
  going
• 37:46
  to
• 37:46
  play
• 37:46
  my
• 37:47
  dad.
• 37:47
  You're
• 37:47
  going
• 37:47
  to
• 37:47
  play
• 37:48
  my
• 37:48
  mom.
• 37:48
  Mom
• 37:49
  sounds
• 37:49
  like
• 37:49
  this.
• 37:50
  Dad
• 37:50
  sounds
• 37:50
  like
• 37:50
  this.
• 37:51
  Brother
• 37:51
  sounds
• 37:51
  like
• 37:51
  this.
• 37:52
  And
• 37:52
  so
• 37:52
  you
• 37:53
  have
• 37:53
  this
• 37:53
  orchestra
• 37:54
  of
• 37:55
  basically
• 37:56
  just
• 37:56
  noise.
• 37:56
  But,
• 37:57
  like,
• 37:57
  it's.
• 37:58
  It's
• 37:58
  an
• 37:58
  coffin.
• 37:59
  Yeah,
• 37:59
  yeah.
• 37:59
  Like,
• 37:59
  it's.
• 38:00
  It's
• 38:00
  still
• 38:00
  musical,
• 38:01
  though.
• 38:01
  Like,
• 38:01
  it's.
• 38:01
  It's
• 38:02
  all
• 38:02
  subjective.
• 38:02
  So
• 38:03
  they
• 38:03
  have
• 38:03
  this
• 38:04
  loud
• 38:04
  thing
• 38:05
  going
• 38:05
  on.
• 38:05
  Everything's,
• 38:05
  like,
• 38:06
  banging,
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  he's
• 38:06
  just
• 38:07
  rattling
• 38:07
  and
• 38:07
  all
• 38:07
  this
• 38:07
  other
• 38:08
  stuff.
• 38:08
  And
• 38:09
  so
• 38:09
  then
• 38:09
  we
• 38:09
  can
• 38:09
  discuss
• 38:10
  about
• 38:10
  it.
• 38:10
  It's
• 38:10
  like,
• 38:10
  well,
• 38:10
  how
• 38:10
  did
• 38:10
  that.
• 38:11
  What
• 38:11
  did
• 38:11
  that
• 38:11
  sound?
• 38:11
  Like,
• 38:11
  how
• 38:12
  did
• 38:12
  that
• 38:12
  feel?
• 38:12
  Was
• 38:12
  that,
• 38:13
  you
• 38:13
  know,
• 38:13
  how
• 38:14
  did
• 38:14
  everybody
• 38:14
  else
• 38:14
  feel?
• 38:15
  Does
• 38:15
  anybody
• 38:15
  else
• 38:16
  else
• 38:16
  have
• 38:16
  insight
• 38:16
  on,
• 38:17
  you
• 38:17
  know,
• 38:17
  how
• 38:18
  this
• 38:18
  made
• 38:18
  them
• 38:19
  feel?
• 38:19
  So
• 38:19
  we
• 38:19
  kind
• 38:19
  of
• 38:19
  discuss
• 38:20
  it
• 38:20
  that
• 38:20
  way.
• 38:21
  And
• 38:21
  then
• 38:21
  after
• 38:21
  that,
• 38:22
  we
• 38:22
  kind
• 38:22
  of
• 38:22
  flip
• 38:22
  the
• 38:22
  tables
• 38:23
  and
• 38:23
  say,
• 38:23
  okay,
• 38:23
  I
• 38:23
  want
• 38:24
  you
• 38:24
  to
• 38:24
  play
• 38:25
  yourself
• 38:26
  with
• 38:26
  this,
• 38:26
  with
• 38:27
  whatever
• 38:27
  instruments
• 38:28
  you
• 38:28
  choose
• 38:28
  in
• 38:28
  the
• 38:29
  way
• 38:29
  that
• 38:29
  you
• 38:29
  would
• 38:29
  like
• 38:29
  to
• 38:30
  hear
• 38:30
  yourself.
• 38:32
  Oh,
• 38:32
  yeah.
• 38:33
  And
• 38:33
  then
• 38:33
  they
• 38:33
  do
• 38:33
  the
• 38:33
  same
• 38:34
  thing.
• 38:34
  They
• 38:34
  hand
• 38:34
  out
• 38:34
  the
• 38:34
  instruments
• 38:35
  and
• 38:35
  say,
• 38:35
  dad,
• 38:35
  this
• 38:36
  is
• 38:36
  you.
• 38:36
  This
• 38:36
  is
• 38:37
  how
• 38:37
  I
• 38:37
  want
• 38:37
  you
• 38:37
  to
• 38:37
  sound.
• 38:38
  Mom,
• 38:38
  this
• 38:39
  is
• 38:39
  how
• 38:39
  I
• 38:39
  want
• 38:39
  you
• 38:39
  to
• 38:39
  sound,
• 38:40
  brother.
• 38:40
  All
• 38:40
  this.
• 38:40
  And
• 38:41
  so
• 38:41
  they
• 38:41
  get
• 38:41
  to
• 38:42
  orchestrate
• 38:42
  this.
• 38:43
  They
• 38:43
  lead
• 38:43
  the
• 38:43
  session
• 38:44
  of
• 38:44
  cacophonous
• 38:45
  noises
• 38:46
  and
• 38:46
  just
• 38:47
  say,
• 38:47
  this
• 38:47
  is.
• 38:47
  This
• 38:47
  is
• 38:48
  how
• 38:48
  I
• 38:48
  would
• 38:48
  like
• 38:49
  my
• 38:49
  life
• 38:49
  to
• 38:50
  sound.
• 38:50
  This
• 38:50
  is
• 38:50
  how
• 38:50
  I
• 38:50
  want
• 38:51
  my
• 38:51
  dynamics
• 38:52
  to
• 38:52
  be.
• 38:53
  So
• 38:53
  they
• 38:53
  can
• 38:53
  kind
• 38:54
  of
• 38:54
  work
• 38:54
  through
• 38:54
  how
• 38:54
  they're
• 38:54
  feeling
• 38:55
  and
• 38:55
  how.
• 38:55
  What
• 38:56
  they
• 38:56
  want
• 38:56
  out
• 38:56
  of
• 38:57
  their
• 38:57
  relationship.
• 38:58
  And
• 38:58
  so
• 38:59
  that
• 38:59
  kind
• 38:59
  of
• 38:59
  gives
• 38:59
  them
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  goal
• 39:00
  to
• 39:00
  be
• 39:00
  like,
• 39:01
  okay,
• 39:01
  I
• 39:01
  know
• 39:02
  what
• 39:02
  I
• 39:02
  want
• 39:02
  you
• 39:02
  to
• 39:03
  sound.
• 39:03
  Like,
• 39:03
  you
• 39:04
  know,
• 39:04
  so
• 39:04
  then
• 39:04
  they
• 39:04
  can
• 39:04
  start
• 39:05
  setting
• 39:05
  boundaries
• 39:05
  and
• 39:06
  be
• 39:06
  like,
• 39:06
  this
• 39:06
  is.
• 39:07
  This
• 39:07
  is
• 39:07
  what
• 39:08
  I
• 39:08
  want
• 39:08
  from
• 39:08
  you.
• 39:08
  This
• 39:08
  is
• 39:08
  what
• 39:09
  I
• 39:09
  need
• 39:09
  from
• 39:09
  you.
• 39:09
  It's
• 39:10
  like
• 39:10
  a
• 39:10
  way
• 39:10
  they
• 39:11
  can
• 39:11
  kind
• 39:11
  of
• 39:11
  begin
• 39:12
  to
• 39:12
  take
• 39:12
  control,
• 39:13
  like,
• 39:13
  even.
• 39:13
  Because
• 39:14
  you
• 39:14
  can't
• 39:14
  control
• 39:14
  something
• 39:15
  if
• 39:15
  you.
• 39:15
  Don'T
• 39:15
  know
• 39:16
  what
• 39:16
  you
• 39:16
  want
• 39:16
  out
• 39:16
  of
• 39:16
  it.
• 39:17
  Exactly.
• 39:17
  Does
• 39:18
  it
• 39:18
  end
• 39:18
  up
• 39:18
  sounding
• 39:19
  like
• 39:19
  harmony
• 39:20
  when
• 39:20
  they
• 39:20
  give
• 39:21
  people.
• 39:22
  When
• 39:22
  they
• 39:22
  assign
• 39:22
  an
• 39:23
  instrument
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  how
• 39:24
  they
• 39:24
  want
• 39:24
  the
• 39:24
  family
• 39:25
  dynamic
• 39:25
  to
• 39:25
  sound?
• 39:26
  Does
• 39:26
  it,
• 39:26
  like,
• 39:26
  ever
• 39:26
  sound
• 39:27
  Harm.
• 39:28
  Harmonious?
• 39:29
  Harmonious.
• 39:29
  Yes.
• 39:30
  Thank
• 39:30
  you.
• 39:30
  Sometimes.
• 39:31
  Yeah.
• 39:31
  Sometimes
• 39:32
  we're
• 39:32
  like.
• 39:32
  We're
• 39:33
  inherently
• 39:33
  musical
• 39:34
  beings,
• 39:34
  so
• 39:34
  we
• 39:35
  have.
• 39:35
  Even
• 39:35
  if
• 39:35
  we
• 39:35
  don't
• 39:36
  have
• 39:36
  any,
• 39:36
  like,
• 39:36
  musical
• 39:36
  skills,
• 39:37
  we.
• 39:39
  We
• 39:39
  kind
• 39:39
  of,
• 39:40
  like,
• 39:41
  I
• 39:41
  don't
• 39:41
  know,
• 39:42
  gravitate
• 39:42
  towards
• 39:43
  each
• 39:43
  other
• 39:43
  in
• 39:43
  that.
• 39:43
  And
• 39:43
  so,
• 39:44
  like,
• 39:44
  you
• 39:44
  go
• 39:45
  long
• 39:45
  enough
• 39:45
  in
• 39:45
  a
• 39:45
  drum
• 39:45
  circle
• 39:46
  or
• 39:46
  whatever,
• 39:46
  like,
• 39:47
  you're.
• 39:47
  You
• 39:47
  start
• 39:48
  to
• 39:48
  kind
• 39:48
  of
• 39:48
  connect,
• 39:48
  and
• 39:48
  things
• 39:49
  will
• 39:49
  start
• 39:49
  to,
• 39:50
  like,
• 39:51
  mesh
• 39:51
  together
• 39:52
  and
• 39:52
  just.
• 39:52
  And
• 39:52
  work
• 39:53
  together.
• 39:54
  Oh,
• 39:54
  that
• 39:55
  reminds
• 39:55
  me
• 39:55
  of
• 39:55
  the
• 39:55
  other
• 39:55
  story
• 39:56
  you
• 39:56
  were
• 39:56
  telling
• 39:56
  us
• 39:56
  with
• 39:56
  the
• 39:56
  humming.
• 39:57
  The
• 39:57
  drum
• 39:57
  circle.
• 39:58
  Yeah.
• 39:58
  Yeah.
• 39:59
  Oh,
• 39:59
  it
• 39:59
  wasn't
• 39:59
  drums.
• 40:00
  It
• 40:00
  was
• 40:00
  humming.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  So
• 40:01
  we
• 40:01
  did
• 40:02
  this
• 40:02
  exercise
• 40:02
  when
• 40:02
  I
• 40:02
  was
• 40:03
  in
• 40:03
  college.
• 40:03
  She
• 40:04
  was
• 40:04
  my
• 40:04
  vocal
• 40:04
  professor,
• 40:06
  and
• 40:07
  she.
• 40:08
  She
• 40:08
  would
• 40:09
  always
• 40:09
  try
• 40:09
  to
• 40:09
  lead
• 40:09
  the
• 40:09
  class
• 40:10
  in
• 40:10
  some
• 40:10
  kind
• 40:10
  of,
• 40:10
  like,
• 40:10
  relaxing,
• 40:11
  kind
• 40:11
  of
• 40:11
  a
• 40:11
  meditation
• 40:12
  before
• 40:12
  we
• 40:12
  started.
• 40:12
  So
• 40:12
  she
• 40:13
  said,
• 40:13
  all
• 40:13
  right,
• 40:13
  I'm
• 40:13
  going
• 40:13
  to
• 40:13
  start
• 40:14
  humming
• 40:15
  a
• 40:15
  note.
• 40:15
  And
• 40:15
  she's
• 40:16
  like,
• 40:16
  I
• 40:16
  just
• 40:16
  want
• 40:16
  you
• 40:16
  to,
• 40:17
  like,
• 40:17
  close
• 40:17
  your
• 40:17
  eyes,
• 40:18
  focus
• 40:18
  on
• 40:18
  the
• 40:18
  humming,
• 40:19
  and,
• 40:20
  like,
• 40:21
  I'll
• 40:21
  give
• 40:21
  you
• 40:21
  direction
• 40:22
  as
• 40:22
  we
• 40:23
  go
• 40:23
  along.
• 40:24
  So
• 40:24
  she
• 40:24
  just
• 40:24
  kind
• 40:24
  of
• 40:24
  started
• 40:24
  humming.
• 40:25
  She's
• 40:25
  like,
• 40:26
  you
• 40:26
  know,
• 40:26
  like,
• 40:27
  specific.
• 40:28
  And
• 40:28
  then
• 40:28
  she
• 40:29
  says,
• 40:29
  all
• 40:29
  right,
• 40:29
  I
• 40:29
  want
• 40:29
  you
• 40:29
  guys
• 40:29
  to
• 40:30
  come
• 40:30
  in.
• 40:30
  Come
• 40:31
  in
• 40:31
  at
• 40:31
  your
• 40:31
  own
• 40:31
  volume.
• 40:32
  Come
• 40:32
  in
• 40:32
  at
• 40:33
  your
• 40:33
  own
• 40:33
  pitch.
• 40:34
  However
• 40:34
  you
• 40:35
  feel
• 40:35
  like
• 40:35
  you
• 40:35
  need
• 40:35
  to
• 40:35
  hum,
• 40:36
  just
• 40:36
  start
• 40:37
  to
• 40:37
  hum.
• 40:37
  So
• 40:37
  when
• 40:38
  it
• 40:38
  began,
• 40:38
  it
• 40:39
  was
• 40:39
  like
• 40:39
  this
• 40:39
  room
• 40:39
  full
• 40:40
  of
• 40:40
  just,
• 40:40
  like,
• 40:41
  odd
• 40:41
  and
• 40:42
  odd,
• 40:42
  like,
• 40:43
  humming.
• 40:44
  And,
• 40:44
  like,
• 40:44
  it
• 40:44
  was
• 40:44
  just
• 40:44
  kind
• 40:45
  of
• 40:45
  all
• 40:45
  over
• 40:45
  the
• 40:45
  place.
• 40:46
  And
• 40:46
  she
• 40:46
  kind
• 40:46
  of
• 40:47
  guided
• 40:47
  us,
• 40:47
  and
• 40:47
  she's
• 40:47
  like,
• 40:48
  all
• 40:48
  right,
• 40:48
  let's
• 40:48
  try
• 40:49
  to
• 40:49
  sway
• 40:49
  with
• 40:49
  your
• 40:49
  humming.
• 40:50
  Like,
• 40:50
  go
• 40:50
  up
• 40:50
  and
• 40:50
  down.
• 40:51
  Practice,
• 40:51
  like,
• 40:52
  experience,
• 40:52
  like,
• 40:53
  how
• 40:53
  loud,
• 40:54
  how
• 40:54
  quiet.
• 40:55
  And
• 40:55
  so
• 40:55
  everybody
• 40:55
  was
• 40:56
  just
• 40:56
  kind
• 40:56
  of
• 40:56
  doing
• 40:56
  it.
• 40:56
  So
• 40:56
  we
• 40:57
  had
• 40:57
  this
• 40:57
  ocean
• 40:57
  of
• 40:57
  just,
• 40:57
  like,
• 40:58
  craziness.
• 40:59
  Like,
• 40:59
  they
• 40:59
  were
• 40:59
  in
• 40:59
  a
• 40:59
  storm.
• 41:00
  And,
• 41:00
  like,
• 41:00
  after
• 41:01
  a
• 41:01
  little
• 41:01
  bit
• 41:01
  without
• 41:02
  trying,
• 41:02
  everything
• 41:03
  just
• 41:03
  kind
• 41:03
  of
• 41:03
  came
• 41:03
  together.
• 41:04
  And
• 41:04
  it
• 41:04
  was
• 41:04
  like
• 41:04
  this
• 41:04
  beautiful
• 41:05
  swaying
• 41:05
  of,
• 41:05
  like,
• 41:06
  waves.
• 41:06
  This
• 41:07
  ocean.
• 41:07
  I'm
• 41:07
  getting
• 41:08
  chill.
• 41:08
  It
• 41:08
  was
• 41:08
  so
• 41:08
  great,
• 41:08
  and
• 41:09
  we
• 41:09
  felt
• 41:09
  just
• 41:10
  so
• 41:10
  incredibly,
• 41:11
  like,
• 41:11
  connected.
• 41:11
  And
• 41:12
  everybody
• 41:12
  was
• 41:12
  just
• 41:13
  there
• 41:13
  as
• 41:13
  we
• 41:14
  were,
• 41:14
  like,
• 41:14
  one.
• 41:14
  And
• 41:15
  it
• 41:15
  was
• 41:15
  just
• 41:15
  this
• 41:15
  beautiful
• 41:16
  feeling.
• 41:16
  Like,
• 41:17
  it
• 41:17
  was
• 41:17
  amazing.
• 41:18
  It
• 41:18
  sounds
• 41:18
  like
• 41:18
  an.
• 41:19
  A
• 41:19
  share
• 41:19
  of
• 41:19
  energy
• 41:20
  with
• 41:20
  everyone
• 41:20
  in
• 41:20
  the
• 41:20
  room.
• 41:21
  Yes.
• 41:21
  Yeah.
• 41:22
  Let
• 41:22
  me
• 41:22
  grab
• 41:22
  my
• 41:22
  notes.
• 41:23
  Energy
• 41:23
  exchange.
• 41:24
  Yeah.
• 41:25
  What
• 41:25
  did
• 41:25
  you
• 41:25
  say?
• 41:26
  Yeah,
• 41:26
  I
• 41:27
  listened
• 41:27
  to
• 41:27
  the
• 41:28
  shamanic
• 41:29
  episode.
• 41:30
  Yes.
• 41:30
  Yeah,
• 41:31
  she
• 41:31
  did
• 41:32
  totally
• 41:32
  talk
• 41:32
  about
• 41:32
  that,
• 41:32
  too.
• 41:33
  And
• 41:33
  I
• 41:33
  was
• 41:33
  just
• 41:33
  like,
• 41:33
  that's
• 41:34
  it.
• 41:34
  That's
• 41:34
  what
• 41:34
  I'm.
• 41:34
  That's
• 41:34
  what
• 41:34
  I'm
• 41:35
  trying
• 41:35
  to
• 41:35
  say.
• 41:36
  Yeah.
• 41:37
  And
• 41:37
  I
• 41:37
  was
• 41:37
  telling
• 41:37
  Melissa
• 41:38
  how
• 41:38
  funny
• 41:39
  it
• 41:39
  was
• 41:39
  after
• 41:39
  we
• 41:39
  spoke
• 41:40
  with
• 41:40
  you,
• 41:41
  how
• 41:42
  well
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  thought
• 41:42
  it
• 41:43
  blended
• 41:43
  in,
• 41:43
  because
• 41:44
  Melissa,
• 41:45
  one
• 41:45
  of
• 41:45
  her
• 41:45
  big
• 41:45
  questions
• 41:46
  to
• 41:46
  you
• 41:46
  is
• 41:47
  also
• 41:47
  the
• 41:48
  neuroscience
• 41:48
  behind
• 41:49
  it.
• 41:49
  And
• 41:49
  so
• 41:50
  when
• 41:50
  you
• 41:51
  explain
• 41:51
  that
• 41:51
  to
• 41:51
  us
• 41:51
  and
• 41:52
  you're
• 41:52
  going
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  explain
• 41:52
  it
• 41:52
  to
• 41:52
  all
• 41:52
  of
• 41:53
  us
• 41:53
  again,
• 41:54
  Laura
• 41:54
  also
• 41:55
  had
• 41:56
  a
• 41:56
  neuroscience
• 41:57
  explanation
• 41:58
  on
• 41:58
  how
• 41:58
  the
• 41:59
  brain
• 41:59
  works
• 42:00
  with
• 42:00
  the
• 42:01
  energy
• 42:01
  exchange
• 42:02
  and.
• 42:02
  And
• 42:02
  what
• 42:03
  that
• 42:03
  does.
• 42:03
  Yeah,
• 42:03
  absolutely.
• 42:04
  Yeah.
• 42:04
  So
• 42:04
  you
• 42:05
  mentioned
• 42:05
  in
• 42:05
  that
• 42:05
  episode
• 42:06
  about
• 42:06
  mirror
• 42:06
  neurons
• 42:07
  and
• 42:07
  how
• 42:07
  nearby
• 42:08
  neurodiverse
• 42:08
  people
• 42:09
  don't
• 42:09
  have
• 42:09
  that.
• 42:10
  She
• 42:10
  also
• 42:10
  mentioned
• 42:11
  the
• 42:11
  alpha
• 42:11
  and
• 42:11
  the.
• 42:11
  Like
• 42:12
  the
• 42:12
  beta
• 42:12
  waves
• 42:12
  and
• 42:12
  the
• 42:12
  theta
• 42:13
  waves.
• 42:13
  Right.
• 42:13
  And
• 42:13
  I
• 42:14
  actually
• 42:14
  did
• 42:14
  a
• 42:14
  study,
• 42:15
  A
• 42:15
  research
• 42:15
  study
• 42:16
  in
• 42:16
  that
• 42:16
  in
• 42:16
  college,
• 42:17
  because
• 42:17
  I'm
• 42:18
  first
• 42:18
  and
• 42:18
  foremost,
• 42:19
  like,
• 42:19
  a
• 42:19
  big
• 42:20
  metal
• 42:20
  head.
• 42:20
  Right.
• 42:20
  I
• 42:21
  love
• 42:21
  loud
• 42:21
  rock
• 42:22
  music.
• 42:22
  It's
• 42:22
  like
• 42:23
  I
• 42:23
  need
• 42:23
  it
• 42:23
  to,
• 42:24
  like,
• 42:24
  just.
• 42:24
  I
• 42:24
  need
• 42:25
  to
• 42:25
  feel
• 42:25
  it
• 42:25
  in
• 42:25
  my
• 42:25
  chest,
• 42:26
  Right.
• 42:26
  Like,
• 42:26
  I'm.
• 42:27
  I
• 42:27
  have,
• 42:27
  like,
• 42:28
  major
• 42:28
  depressive
• 42:28
  disorder.
• 42:29
  I've
• 42:29
  got
• 42:29
  ADHD
• 42:30
  and,
• 42:30
  like,
• 42:30
  a
• 42:30
  lot
• 42:31
  of
• 42:31
  anxiety.
• 42:32
  I'm
• 42:32
  somewhere
• 42:33
  on
• 42:33
  the
• 42:33
  spectrum.
• 42:34
  Right.
• 42:35
  I
• 42:35
  haven't
• 42:35
  been
• 42:36
  tested
• 42:36
  for
• 42:36
  it,
• 42:36
  but
• 42:37
  I
• 42:38
  definitely
• 42:39
  am
• 42:39
  neurodiverse
• 42:39
  in
• 42:40
  some
• 42:40
  way.
• 42:41
  So
• 42:42
  that
• 42:43
  has
• 42:43
  been
• 42:43
  a
• 42:43
  real
• 42:43
  game
• 42:44
  changer
• 42:44
  for
• 42:44
  me,
• 42:44
  just
• 42:45
  realizing
• 42:45
  who
• 42:46
  I
• 42:46
  am,
• 42:46
  what
• 42:46
  I
• 42:46
  am,
• 42:46
  and
• 42:46
  then
• 42:47
  understanding
• 42:47
  the
• 42:47
  science
• 42:48
  behind
• 42:48
  it.
• 42:48
  So
• 42:49
  in
• 42:49
  neurodiverse
• 42:50
  people,
• 42:50
  the
• 42:50
  alpha
• 42:51
  and
• 42:51
  the
• 42:51
  beta
• 42:51
  waves
• 42:51
  are
• 42:52
  reversed.
• 42:53
  So
• 42:53
  she
• 42:53
  talked
• 42:53
  about
• 42:54
  the
• 42:54
  alpha
• 42:54
  are
• 42:55
  in
• 42:55
  charge
• 42:55
  of
• 42:55
  relaxation,
• 42:56
  and
• 42:56
  then
• 42:56
  the
• 42:56
  other
• 42:56
  one,
• 42:56
  the
• 42:57
  beta
• 42:57
  waves,
• 42:57
  are
• 42:57
  in.
• 42:58
  In
• 42:59
  charge
• 42:59
  of
• 42:59
  focus.
• 43:00
  So
• 43:00
  as,
• 43:00
  like,
• 43:01
  neurodiverse
• 43:01
  people
• 43:02
  grow,
• 43:03
  their
• 43:03
  anxiety
• 43:03
  gets
• 43:03
  higher,
• 43:04
  their
• 43:04
  focus
• 43:04
  gets,
• 43:04
  you
• 43:05
  know,
• 43:05
  a
• 43:05
  little
• 43:05
  bit
• 43:05
  less.
• 43:06
  So
• 43:07
  when
• 43:07
  I
• 43:08
  study,
• 43:09
  I've
• 43:09
  been
• 43:09
  able
• 43:09
  to
• 43:09
  kind
• 43:10
  of
• 43:10
  go
• 43:10
  through
• 43:10
  several
• 43:11
  different
• 43:11
  genres
• 43:11
  of
• 43:11
  music
• 43:12
  to
• 43:12
  different
• 43:12
  styles
• 43:12
  of
• 43:13
  music
• 43:13
  and
• 43:13
  kind
• 43:13
  of
• 43:14
  figure
• 43:14
  out
• 43:14
  what
• 43:14
  fits
• 43:15
  my
• 43:15
  mood.
• 43:16
  So
• 43:16
  for
• 43:16
  me,
• 43:17
  if
• 43:17
  I
• 43:17
  have.
• 43:18
  I'm
• 43:18
  not
• 43:19
  sure
• 43:19
  how
• 43:19
  to
• 43:19
  explain
• 43:19
  it,
• 43:19
  but,
• 43:19
  like,
• 43:20
  multitasking,
• 43:21
  studying
• 43:21
  to
• 43:21
  do.
• 43:21
  Like,
• 43:21
  if
• 43:21
  I'm
• 43:22
  reading,
• 43:22
  I'm
• 43:22
  taking
• 43:22
  notes,
• 43:22
  I'm
• 43:23
  highlighting,
• 43:23
  I'm
• 43:23
  doing
• 43:23
  all
• 43:23
  this
• 43:24
  other
• 43:24
  stuff.
• 43:24
  I
• 43:25
  have
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  keep
• 43:25
  track
• 43:25
  of
• 43:25
  several
• 43:26
  different
• 43:26
  things.
• 43:26
  Like,
• 43:26
  I
• 43:27
  listen
• 43:27
  to
• 43:28
  instrumental
• 43:28
  metal
• 43:29
  because
• 43:30
  the
• 43:30
  rhythms
• 43:30
  are
• 43:31
  far
• 43:31
  more
• 43:31
  complex.
• 43:32
  So
• 43:32
  it
• 43:32
  just
• 43:32
  keeps
• 43:33
  my
• 43:33
  brain
• 43:33
  like.
• 43:34
  Like
• 43:34
  it
• 43:34
  just
• 43:35
  kind
• 43:35
  of
• 43:35
  re.
• 43:36
  Resets
• 43:36
  my.
• 43:37
  Not
• 43:37
  resets
• 43:37
  my
• 43:37
  brain,
• 43:37
  but,
• 43:38
  like,
• 43:38
  it
• 43:38
  helps
• 43:38
  me.
• 43:39
  Kind
• 43:39
  of
• 43:39
  helps
• 43:39
  the
• 43:40
  other
• 43:40
  waves
• 43:40
  take
• 43:40
  over.
• 43:41
  Yeah.
• 43:41
  Because
• 43:42
  my
• 43:42
  brain
• 43:42
  study
• 43:42
  music
• 43:43
  I'll,
• 43:43
  like,
• 43:43
  start
• 43:43
  to
• 43:44
  get
• 43:44
  relaxed
• 43:44
  and,
• 43:44
  like,
• 43:44
  start
• 43:44
  to
• 43:45
  get
• 43:45
  tired.
• 43:45
  But
• 43:45
  I
• 43:45
  have
• 43:45
  to
• 43:45
  keep
• 43:45
  my
• 43:46
  attention
• 43:46
  up,
• 43:46
  so
• 43:46
  that
• 43:47
  helps
• 43:47
  me
• 43:47
  just
• 43:47
  kind
• 43:47
  of
• 43:48
  keep
• 43:48
  my
• 43:49
  focus
• 43:49
  going.
• 43:50
  So
• 43:50
  there's
• 43:51
  a
• 43:51
  lot.
• 43:51
  So,
• 43:52
  like,
• 43:52
  if
• 43:52
  you're
• 43:52
  studying,
• 43:53
  you're
• 43:53
  gonna
• 43:53
  play,
• 43:53
  like,
• 43:53
  AC
• 43:54
  DC
• 43:54
  type
• 43:54
  stuff.
• 43:55
  Instrument.
• 43:55
  Is
• 43:55
  that
• 43:56
  what
• 43:56
  I'm
• 43:56
  hearing?
• 43:56
  Not.
• 43:57
  Not
• 43:57
  really.
• 43:58
  ACDC
• 43:58
  is
• 43:58
  very.
• 43:59
  He's
• 43:59
  like,
• 43:59
  I
• 44:00
  don't
• 44:00
  like
• 44:00
  acdc.
• 44:03
  I'm
• 44:03
  just
• 44:03
  kidding.
• 44:03
  Great
• 44:04
  motivational
• 44:04
  music
• 44:05
  for
• 44:05
  me.
• 44:05
  That's
• 44:05
  what
• 44:05
  that.
• 44:05
  That's
• 44:05
  one
• 44:06
  for
• 44:06
  me.
• 44:06
  That's
• 44:06
  a
• 44:06
  go,
• 44:06
  go
• 44:06
  music
• 44:07
  for
• 44:07
  me.
• 44:08
  Okay,
• 44:08
  good.
• 44:10
  But
• 44:10
  you're
• 44:11
  cool,
• 44:11
  Sam.
• 44:11
  You're
• 44:11
  still
• 44:11
  cool.
• 44:12
  Yeah.
• 44:12
  Don't
• 44:13
  know
• 44:13
  a
• 44:13
  damn
• 44:13
  song.
• 44:17
  So
• 44:17
  I'll
• 44:18
  throw
• 44:18
  out
• 44:18
  some
• 44:18
  bands
• 44:18
  for
• 44:18
  you.
• 44:19
  Animals
• 44:20
  of
• 44:20
  Leaders.
• 44:21
  Polyphia.
• 44:22
  These
• 44:22
  are
• 44:22
  all,
• 44:22
  like,
• 44:23
  instrumental
• 44:24
  metal
• 44:24
  bands.
• 44:25
  They're
• 44:25
  really.
• 44:28
  Polyphia.
• 44:29
  P
• 44:30
  O
• 44:30
  L
• 44:30
  Y
• 44:30
  P
• 44:31
  H
• 44:31
  I
• 44:31
  A.
• 44:32
  Yeah.
• 44:32
  Thank
• 44:33
  you.
• 44:33
  I'm
• 44:33
  going
• 44:33
  to
• 44:33
  look
• 44:33
  these
• 44:34
  up
• 44:34
  and
• 44:34
  maybe
• 44:34
  I'll
• 44:34
  link
• 44:34
  them.
• 44:34
  Please
• 44:35
  do.
• 44:35
  Yeah.
• 44:35
  Politicia
• 44:36
  is
• 44:36
  amazing.
• 44:37
  I've
• 44:38
  never
• 44:38
  heard
• 44:38
  of
• 44:38
  instrumental
• 44:39
  metal.
• 44:40
  Are
• 44:40
  you
• 44:40
  talking,
• 44:40
  like,
• 44:41
  Juilliard
• 44:41
  stuff?
• 44:41
  Well,
• 44:42
  actually,
• 44:42
  wait,
• 44:43
  There's
• 44:43
  a
• 44:44
  band
• 44:44
  called
• 44:45
  Dream
• 44:46
  Theater.
• 44:48
  Are
• 44:48
  they
• 44:48
  instrumental?
• 44:49
  Not
• 44:49
  metal.
• 44:50
  But
• 44:50
  they're
• 44:51
  considered
• 44:51
  prog
• 44:51
  rock.
• 44:51
  But
• 44:51
  they're
• 44:52
  not
• 44:52
  instrumental.
• 44:53
  They
• 44:53
  were
• 44:54
  probably
• 44:54
  one
• 44:54
  of
• 44:54
  the
• 44:54
  pioneers
• 44:55
  of
• 44:55
  the
• 44:56
  genre.
• 44:56
  Yeah,
• 44:57
  they're
• 44:57
  incredible.
• 44:58
  Yeah.
• 44:59
  But
• 45:00
  a
• 45:00
  lot
• 45:00
  of
• 45:00
  the
• 45:00
  same
• 45:00
  style,
• 45:01
  like,
• 45:01
  the
• 45:01
  very
• 45:01
  technical,
• 45:02
  like,
• 45:03
  beats.
• 45:03
  Like,
• 45:04
  it's
• 45:04
  not
• 45:04
  just
• 45:04
  like
• 45:04
  your
• 45:04
  pump,
• 45:05
  bum,
• 45:05
  bum.
• 45:05
  Right.
• 45:08
  Yeah.
• 45:08
  Okay,
• 45:08
  so
• 45:08
  it
• 45:08
  has
• 45:09
  a
• 45:09
  lot
• 45:09
  of
• 45:09
  that.
• 45:09
  So
• 45:09
  it's
• 45:09
  just
• 45:10
  like,
• 45:10
  minor
• 45:10
  is
• 45:10
  like.
• 45:12
  Right.
• 45:13
  So
• 45:13
  I
• 45:13
  feel
• 45:14
  like
• 45:14
  we
• 45:14
  just
• 45:14
  got
• 45:14
  some
• 45:14
  scatting
• 45:16
  in
• 45:17
  a
• 45:17
  conversation.
• 45:17
  Go.
• 45:18
  Anyway,
• 45:19
  I
• 45:20
  do
• 45:20
  that.
• 45:21
  Oh,
• 45:21
  sorry.
• 45:22
  People
• 45:22
  make
• 45:22
  fun
• 45:23
  of
• 45:23
  me.
• 45:23
  Not
• 45:23
  make
• 45:23
  fun
• 45:24
  of
• 45:24
  me.
• 45:26
  No.
• 45:26
  But
• 45:26
  like.
• 45:27
  Like
• 45:28
  my
• 45:28
  tattoo
• 45:28
  artist,
• 45:29
  she
• 45:29
  always
• 45:29
  cracks
• 45:29
  up.
• 45:29
  She's
• 45:30
  like,
• 45:30
  you
• 45:30
  are
• 45:30
  just
• 45:31
  the
• 45:31
  funniest
• 45:31
  person.
• 45:32
  And
• 45:32
  I'm
• 45:32
  like,
• 45:33
  I
• 45:33
  didn't
• 45:33
  say
• 45:33
  anything.
• 45:34
  So,
• 45:34
  okay,
• 45:35
  visual.
• 45:35
  Funny
• 45:36
  story.
• 45:36
  So
• 45:37
  she
• 45:37
  did
• 45:37
  a
• 45:37
  sternum
• 45:38
  tattoo
• 45:38
  for
• 45:38
  me.
• 45:39
  And
• 45:39
  so
• 45:40
  when
• 45:40
  she's
• 45:40
  trying
• 45:41
  to
• 45:41
  make
• 45:41
  sure
• 45:41
  that
• 45:41
  the
• 45:41
  stencil
• 45:42
  is
• 45:42
  on,
• 45:42
  right?
• 45:42
  She's
• 45:43
  like,
• 45:43
  all
• 45:43
  right,
• 45:43
  spread
• 45:43
  your
• 45:44
  chest,
• 45:44
  Put
• 45:44
  them
• 45:44
  back
• 45:45
  together.
• 45:45
  Lay
• 45:46
  down,
• 45:46
  spread
• 45:46
  your
• 45:46
  chest,
• 45:47
  Put
• 45:47
  it
• 45:47
  back
• 45:47
  together.
• 45:48
  And
• 45:49
  every
• 45:49
  time
• 45:49
  I'm
• 45:49
  going
• 45:51
  through.
• 45:53
  And
• 45:53
  she
• 45:54
  goes,
• 45:54
  why
• 45:54
  are
• 45:54
  you
• 45:55
  doing
• 45:55
  that?
• 45:55
  Like,
• 45:55
  I
• 45:56
  don't
• 45:56
  know.
• 45:56
  You're
• 45:57
  like,
• 45:57
  because
• 45:57
  this
• 45:57
  is
• 45:57
  uncomfortable
• 45:58
  and
• 45:58
  I
• 45:59
  need
• 45:59
  something
• 45:59
  to
• 46:00
  like.
• 46:06
  That's
• 46:06
  hilarious.
• 46:07
  I
• 46:07
  love
• 46:07
  that.
• 46:07
  I
• 46:08
  do
• 46:08
  that.
• 46:08
  I
• 46:08
  do
• 46:08
  that
• 46:08
  a
• 46:08
  lot.
• 46:09
  Simon
• 46:09
  and
• 46:09
  I.
• 46:09
  I
• 46:09
  have
• 46:10
  a
• 46:10
  son
• 46:10
  named
• 46:10
  Simon.
• 46:12
  Yeah,
• 46:13
  he
• 46:13
  does.
• 46:14
  And
• 46:14
  so
• 46:14
  he's
• 46:15
  autistic
• 46:16
  and
• 46:16
  he's.
• 46:16
  He
• 46:16
  gets
• 46:17
  nonverbal
• 46:18
  under
• 46:18
  stressful
• 46:19
  situations,
• 46:19
  but
• 46:20
  he
• 46:20
  makes
• 46:20
  A
• 46:20
  lot
• 46:20
  of
• 46:21
  noise.
• 46:21
  So
• 46:21
  sometimes
• 46:21
  we'll
• 46:21
  just
• 46:22
  like,
• 46:22
  like
• 46:22
  sit
• 46:23
  back
• 46:23
  and
• 46:23
  forth
• 46:23
  and
• 46:23
  be
• 46:23
  like,
• 46:26
  you
• 46:26
  know,
• 46:28
  I'm
• 46:28
  just
• 46:28
  like.
• 46:29
  It's
• 46:29
  this
• 46:29
  whole
• 46:29
  conversation.
• 46:30
  Both.
• 46:30
  The
• 46:30
  old
• 46:31
  two
• 46:31
  of
• 46:31
  us
• 46:31
  are
• 46:31
  the
• 46:32
  only
• 46:32
  people
• 46:32
  going,
• 46:32
  yeah,
• 46:33
  I
• 46:33
  get
• 46:33
  it.
• 46:34
  But
• 46:35
  you
• 46:35
  guys
• 46:35
  can
• 46:35
  understand
• 46:36
  each
• 46:36
  other
• 46:36
  through
• 46:36
  the
• 46:36
  noises.
• 46:37
  He
• 46:37
  makes
• 46:37
  some.
• 46:37
  He
• 46:38
  makes
• 46:38
  some
• 46:38
  amazing
• 46:38
  noises.
• 46:39
  You
• 46:39
  may
• 46:39
  hear
• 46:39
  him
• 46:39
  now.
• 46:40
  He
• 46:40
  might
• 46:40
  be
• 46:40
  waking
• 46:41
  up
• 46:41
  and
• 46:41
  getting
• 46:41
  on
• 46:41
  his
• 46:41
  computer,
• 46:42
  but
• 46:42
  we'll
• 46:42
  see.
• 46:43
  She's
• 46:43
  at
• 46:43
  mom's
• 46:44
  house,
• 46:44
  so
• 46:44
  she's
• 46:45
  okay.
• 46:45
  She
• 46:46
  has
• 46:46
  a
• 46:46
  job,
• 46:46
  so
• 46:46
  she's
• 46:47
  working
• 46:47
  this
• 46:47
  weekend.
• 46:47
  She's
• 46:48
  like,
• 46:48
  ah,
• 46:48
  you
• 46:49
  know,
• 46:49
  she.
• 46:50
  She
• 46:50
  likes
• 46:50
  to
• 46:50
  have
• 46:50
  the
• 46:51
  house
• 46:51
  to
• 46:51
  herself.
• 46:51
  She's
• 46:52
  just
• 46:52
  like,
• 46:52
  I
• 46:52
  like
• 46:52
  being
• 46:52
  at
• 46:52
  home,
• 46:53
  like,
• 46:53
  having
• 46:53
  the
• 46:53
  rest.
• 46:53
  There's
• 46:54
  like,
• 46:54
  totally,
• 46:54
  totally.
• 46:55
  So
• 46:56
  where
• 46:56
  were
• 46:56
  we?
• 46:57
  I
• 46:57
  know,
• 46:57
  sorry,
• 46:57
  I
• 46:57
  took
• 46:58
  us
• 46:58
  out.
• 46:58
  No,
• 46:58
  no,
• 46:58
  you're
• 46:59
  fine.
• 47:01
  That's
• 47:01
  where
• 47:01
  we
• 47:01
  were
• 47:02
  with
• 47:02
  the
• 47:03
  boobs.
• 47:03
  But
• 47:03
  why
• 47:03
  were
• 47:03
  we
• 47:04
  talking
• 47:04
  about
• 47:04
  sounds?
• 47:05
  We
• 47:05
  were
• 47:05
  talking
• 47:05
  about
• 47:07
  neuro.
• 47:08
  Oh,
• 47:09
  yeah.
• 47:09
  Oh,
• 47:09
  yeah.
• 47:09
  Because
• 47:09
  we
• 47:09
  were
• 47:10
  talking
• 47:10
  about
• 47:10
  the
• 47:11
  instrumental.
• 47:14
  Bring
• 47:15
  us
• 47:15
  back,
• 47:15
  Brad.
• 47:16
  So
• 47:17
  it
• 47:17
  goes
• 47:17
  both
• 47:17
  ways,
• 47:18
  right?
• 47:19
  You
• 47:19
  have
• 47:19
  that.
• 47:19
  That's
• 47:20
  what
• 47:20
  really
• 47:20
  helps
• 47:21
  me
• 47:22
  focus
• 47:22
  on.
• 47:22
  On
• 47:23
  work
• 47:23
  and,
• 47:23
  like,
• 47:23
  just
• 47:23
  keep
• 47:23
  me
• 47:24
  moving
• 47:24
  forward.
• 47:25
  And
• 47:25
  then
• 47:25
  just
• 47:26
  recently.
• 47:27
  Oh,
• 47:27
  I
• 47:27
  need
• 47:27
  to
• 47:27
  see
• 47:27
  if
• 47:27
  I
• 47:28
  can
• 47:28
  find
• 47:28
  it.
• 47:30
  My
• 47:30
  partner
• 47:30
  Kat
• 47:31
  gave
• 47:31
  me,
• 47:31
  sent
• 47:32
  me
• 47:32
  this
• 47:32
  link
• 47:33
  on
• 47:33
  Spotify,
• 47:33
  and
• 47:34
  it's
• 47:35
  list
• 47:35
  of
• 47:36
  music
• 47:37
  at
• 47:37
  a.
• 47:37
  I
• 47:38
  think
• 47:38
  it's
• 47:38
  145
• 47:39
  beats
• 47:39
  per
• 47:39
  minute.
• 47:40
  And
• 47:40
  if
• 47:40
  I'm
• 47:40
  not
• 47:40
  mistaken,
• 47:41
  that's
• 47:41
  kind
• 47:41
  of
• 47:41
  the
• 47:41
  regular
• 47:42
  or
• 47:42
  the
• 47:43
  typical
• 47:44
  speed
• 47:44
  of
• 47:45
  speech.
• 47:45
  It's
• 47:46
  supposed
• 47:46
  to
• 47:46
  reset
• 47:47
  your
• 47:47
  ADHD
• 47:48
  brain,
• 47:48
  basically.
• 47:49
  So
• 47:49
  it's
• 47:49
  just
• 47:49
  like
• 47:49
  a
• 47:50
  way
• 47:50
  for
• 47:50
  your
• 47:50
  brain
• 47:50
  to
• 47:50
  go,
• 47:51
  oh,
• 47:51
  to
• 47:52
  stop
• 47:52
  and
• 47:52
  just
• 47:52
  kind
• 47:52
  of
• 47:53
  like
• 47:54
  reset.
• 47:54
  I
• 47:54
  need
• 47:55
  that.
• 47:55
  Yeah,
• 47:55
  I
• 47:56
  can.
• 47:56
  I
• 47:56
  can
• 47:56
  send
• 47:56
  it
• 47:56
  to
• 47:56
  you.
• 47:57
  Yeah.
• 47:58
  Thank
• 47:58
  you.
• 47:59
  And
• 47:59
  I'll
• 47:59
  link
• 47:59
  it
• 48:00
  too.
• 48:00
  There's
• 48:00
  a
• 48:00
  playlist
• 48:01
  that
• 48:01
  my
• 48:01
  therapist
• 48:02
  has
• 48:02
  me
• 48:02
  listen
• 48:02
  to
• 48:02
  when
• 48:02
  we're
• 48:03
  in
• 48:03
  a
• 48:03
  session.
• 48:04
  And
• 48:04
  it's.
• 48:05
  It's
• 48:05
  called
• 48:05
  dynamic
• 48:06
  something
• 48:06
  or
• 48:06
  another.
• 48:06
  And
• 48:06
  she's
• 48:07
  like,
• 48:07
  the
• 48:08
  sounds
• 48:09
  in
• 48:10
  the
• 48:10
  music
• 48:11
  of
• 48:11
  this
• 48:11
  playlist,
• 48:12
  it's
• 48:12
  to
• 48:12
  activate
• 48:12
  both
• 48:13
  sides
• 48:13
  of
• 48:13
  your
• 48:13
  brain
• 48:13
  so
• 48:14
  that
• 48:14
  your
• 48:14
  brain
• 48:14
  can
• 48:17
  work
• 48:17
  on
• 48:17
  what
• 48:17
  it's
• 48:17
  trying
• 48:18
  to
• 48:18
  work
• 48:18
  on.
• 48:18
  And
• 48:18
  you
• 48:19
  don't
• 48:19
  even
• 48:19
  have
• 48:19
  to
• 48:19
  talk.
• 48:19
  Emdr.
• 48:20
  Is
• 48:20
  she
• 48:20
  doing
• 48:21
  EMDR
• 48:21
  with
• 48:21
  you
• 48:22
  with
• 48:22
  music?
• 48:22
  No,
• 48:23
  it's
• 48:23
  brain
• 48:24
  spotting.
• 48:25
  Oh,
• 48:25
  I've
• 48:26
  never
• 48:26
  done
• 48:26
  that.
• 48:28
  Do
• 48:28
  you
• 48:28
  know
• 48:28
  anything
• 48:28
  about
• 48:29
  that?
• 48:29
  Not
• 48:30
  too
• 48:30
  much.
• 48:30
  I
• 48:30
  know.
• 48:30
  I
• 48:30
  think
• 48:30
  that
• 48:31
  goes
• 48:31
  into
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  realm
• 48:32
  of
• 48:32
  like,
• 48:33
  what's
• 48:34
  it
• 48:34
  called?
• 48:34
  Sound.
• 48:34
  There's
• 48:35
  something
• 48:35
  called
• 48:35
  sound
• 48:35
  bathing.
• 48:37
  There's.
• 48:39
  There's
• 48:39
  another
• 48:40
  whole
• 48:41
  genre
• 48:42
  outside
• 48:42
  of
• 48:42
  that,
• 48:42
  just
• 48:43
  like,
• 48:43
  using
• 48:44
  energy.
• 48:44
  Like
• 48:44
  you
• 48:44
  have,
• 48:44
  like.
• 48:46
  I
• 48:46
  think
• 48:47
  the
• 48:48
  podcast
• 48:48
  the
• 48:48
  other
• 48:48
  day
• 48:48
  mentioned,
• 48:49
  like,
• 48:49
  you
• 48:49
  have
• 48:49
  your
• 48:49
  chakras
• 48:50
  and
• 48:50
  your
• 48:50
  alignment
• 48:51
  and
• 48:51
  like
• 48:52
  the
• 48:52
  sounds
• 48:52
  coming
• 48:52
  over
• 48:53
  you
• 48:53
  and
• 48:53
  like
• 48:53
  the
• 48:53
  energy
• 48:53
  and
• 48:53
  like
• 48:54
  that's
• 48:54
  kind
• 48:54
  of
• 48:54
  what
• 48:54
  that
• 48:54
  is.
• 48:54
  So
• 48:54
  you
• 48:54
  have
• 48:55
  these
• 48:55
  big.
• 48:55
  They're
• 48:55
  kind
• 48:55
  of
• 48:56
  sound
• 48:56
  bolds
• 48:56
  and
• 48:56
  you
• 48:56
  can
• 48:56
  just
• 48:57
  like
• 48:57
  make
• 48:57
  these.
• 48:58
  This.
• 48:58
  Oh
• 48:59
  yeah.
• 48:59
  Creates
• 48:59
  a
• 48:59
  certain
• 48:59
  frequency.
• 49:00
  Yeah,
• 49:00
  you
• 49:00
  have
• 49:01
  one.
• 49:01
  Yeah.
• 49:01
  So
• 49:01
  you
• 49:02
  create
• 49:02
  a
• 49:02
  certain
• 49:02
  frequency
• 49:03
  and
• 49:03
  like
• 49:03
  it
• 49:03
  resonates
• 49:04
  somewhere
• 49:04
  within
• 49:05
  your
• 49:05
  body
• 49:05
  and
• 49:05
  you
• 49:05
  can
• 49:06
  kind
• 49:06
  of
• 49:06
  fine
• 49:06
  tune
• 49:06
  where
• 49:07
  you're
• 49:07
  your
• 49:08
  like
• 49:09
  your
• 49:09
  energies
• 49:10
  and
• 49:10
  stuff
• 49:10
  like
• 49:10
  that.
• 49:10
  So
• 49:11
  really
• 49:11
  cool
• 49:12
  stuff.
• 49:12
  I'd
• 49:12
  love
• 49:12
  to
• 49:12
  get
• 49:12
  into
• 49:12
  that
• 49:13
  more.
• 49:13
  But
• 49:14
  it's
• 49:15
  like
• 49:15
  living
• 49:15
  proof
• 49:16
  that
• 49:16
  these
• 49:17
  abstract
• 49:17
  things
• 49:18
  are.
• 49:19
  I
• 49:20
  mean,
• 49:20
  I
• 49:20
  read
• 49:20
  that
• 49:21
  they
• 49:21
  can
• 49:21
  anatomically
• 49:22
  change
• 49:22
  you.
• 49:23
  There's
• 49:24
  studies
• 49:24
  like,
• 49:25
  not.
• 49:25
  They
• 49:26
  like
• 49:26
  the
• 49:27
  music
• 49:27
  and
• 49:27
  the
• 49:27
  therapy
• 49:28
  that
• 49:28
  you
• 49:28
  get
• 49:29
  with
• 49:29
  through
• 49:29
  the
• 49:29
  music
• 49:29
  therapy,
• 49:30
  it's
• 49:30
  like
• 49:30
  you
• 49:30
  can
• 49:30
  actually
• 49:31
  change.
• 49:31
  Yeah.
• 49:32
  We
• 49:32
  worked
• 49:32
  with
• 49:32
  a
• 49:32
  couple
• 49:32
  of
• 49:32
  clients
• 49:33
  that
• 49:33
  had.
• 49:33
  They
• 49:34
  had
• 49:34
  strokes
• 49:34
  and
• 49:34
  so
• 49:34
  their
• 49:35
  speech
• 49:35
  was.
• 49:37
  Yo,
• 49:38
  put
• 49:38
  me
• 49:38
  on
• 49:38
  the
• 49:38
  spot.
• 49:38
  And
• 49:39
  like,
• 49:39
  forget
• 49:39
  the
• 49:39
  parts
• 49:39
  of
• 49:39
  the
• 49:40
  brain,
• 49:40
  but
• 49:40
  they're
• 49:41
  affected.
• 49:42
  I'm
• 49:42
  blanking.
• 49:42
  But
• 49:43
  anyway,
• 49:43
  the
• 49:43
  speech
• 49:43
  part
• 49:44
  was
• 49:44
  interrupted.
• 49:45
  So
• 49:45
  they
• 49:45
  had
• 49:45
  really
• 49:46
  difficult
• 49:47
  time
• 49:48
  producing
• 49:48
  speech.
• 49:48
  Like
• 49:49
  they
• 49:49
  could
• 49:49
  understand
• 49:49
  it,
• 49:49
  they
• 49:49
  knew
• 49:50
  what
• 49:50
  they
• 49:50
  wanted
• 49:50
  to
• 49:50
  say,
• 49:50
  but
• 49:50
  it
• 49:51
  was
• 49:51
  just
• 49:51
  not
• 49:51
  being
• 49:51
  produced.
• 49:52
  So
• 49:52
  when
• 49:53
  we
• 49:53
  use
• 49:53
  music,
• 49:54
  like
• 49:55
  highlights
• 49:55
  the
• 49:56
  entire.
• 49:56
  No,
• 49:57
  it's
• 49:57
  not
• 49:57
  the
• 49:57
  hippocampus.
• 49:58
  It's
• 49:58
  the
• 49:59
  broca's
• 49:59
  area
• 50:00
  of
• 50:00
  your
• 50:00
  speech
• 50:00
  center.
• 50:01
  The
• 50:01
  broca's.
• 50:01
  Broca's
• 50:02
  a
• 50:02
  patient.
• 50:03
  There
• 50:03
  you
• 50:03
  go.
• 50:04
  So
• 50:04
  when
• 50:04
  we
• 50:04
  use
• 50:04
  music,
• 50:05
  it
• 50:05
  kind
• 50:05
  of
• 50:05
  highlights
• 50:06
  the
• 50:06
  entire
• 50:06
  brain.
• 50:07
  So
• 50:08
  you
• 50:08
  know,
• 50:08
  your.
• 50:08
  Your
• 50:09
  neurons
• 50:09
  are
• 50:09
  going
• 50:09
  from
• 50:10
  like
• 50:10
  a.
• 50:10
  Processing
• 50:11
  or
• 50:11
  a.
• 50:13
  Oh,
• 50:13
  technical
• 50:14
  terms.
• 50:14
  I'm
• 50:14
  a
• 50:14
  horrible
• 50:14
  this.
• 50:14
  But
• 50:15
  anyway,
• 50:15
  like,
• 50:15
  they,
• 50:15
  they'll.
• 50:16
  They'll
• 50:16
  fire
• 50:16
  and
• 50:16
  there's
• 50:16
  a
• 50:16
  blockage
• 50:17
  and
• 50:17
  they
• 50:17
  can't
• 50:17
  get
• 50:17
  the
• 50:17
  words.
• 50:18
  Okay.
• 50:19
  So
• 50:20
  when
• 50:20
  you
• 50:20
  use
• 50:20
  music,
• 50:20
  it
• 50:20
  kind
• 50:21
  of
• 50:21
  highlights
• 50:21
  the
• 50:21
  brain.
• 50:21
  So
• 50:22
  these
• 50:22
  neurons
• 50:23
  kind
• 50:23
  of
• 50:24
  have
• 50:25
  another
• 50:26
  path
• 50:26
  of
• 50:26
  highlighted
• 50:27
  regions
• 50:27
  of
• 50:27
  the
• 50:27
  brain
• 50:27
  where
• 50:28
  there's
• 50:28
  like,
• 50:28
  oh,
• 50:28
  I
• 50:29
  go
• 50:29
  this
• 50:29
  way.
• 50:30
  So
• 50:30
  your
• 50:30
  brain
• 50:30
  in
• 50:31
  a
• 50:31
  way
• 50:31
  rewires
• 50:32
  itself
• 50:32
  to
• 50:33
  find
• 50:33
  new
• 50:33
  paths
• 50:33
  to
• 50:34
  like
• 50:34
  complete
• 50:34
  the
• 50:34
  tasks
• 50:35
  that
• 50:35
  they're
• 50:35
  trying
• 50:35
  to
• 50:35
  do.
• 50:36
  We
• 50:37
  the
• 50:37
  a
• 50:37
  big
• 50:37
  saying
• 50:38
  we
• 50:38
  always
• 50:38
  had
• 50:38
  in
• 50:38
  school.
• 50:39
  Like,
• 50:39
  we.
• 50:39
  Every
• 50:39
  semester,
• 50:40
  every
• 50:40
  couple
• 50:40
  of
• 50:41
  months,
• 50:41
  it
• 50:41
  was
• 50:41
  like
• 50:41
  the
• 50:41
  neurons
• 50:42
  that
• 50:42
  fire
• 50:42
  together.
• 50:43
  Wild.
• 50:43
  Okay.
• 50:43
  That's
• 50:43
  so
• 50:43
  cute.
• 50:44
  So,
• 50:45
  yeah.
• 50:45
  So
• 50:46
  you
• 50:46
  can
• 50:46
  YouTube
• 50:47
  like
• 50:47
  a
• 50:47
  lot
• 50:47
  of
• 50:47
  speech
• 50:48
  things
• 50:48
  with
• 50:48
  music
• 50:48
  therapy
• 50:50
  where
• 50:50
  people
• 50:50
  can't
• 50:51
  speak
• 50:51
  but
• 50:51
  they
• 50:51
  can
• 50:51
  sing.
• 50:52
  Right.
• 50:52
  So
• 50:53
  on
• 50:53
  a
• 50:53
  near
• 50:54
  neurocognitive
• 50:55
  level,
• 50:57
  it's
• 50:58
  really
• 50:58
  fun
• 50:59
  where
• 50:59
  you
• 50:59
  sit
• 51:00
  with
• 51:00
  somebody
• 51:00
  and
• 51:01
  try
• 51:02
  to
• 51:02
  get
• 51:02
  them
• 51:02
  to
• 51:02
  use
• 51:03
  language
• 51:03
  to
• 51:04
  take
• 51:05
  care
• 51:05
  of
• 51:05
  their
• 51:05
  everyday
• 51:05
  tasks,
• 51:06
  like
• 51:06
  needing
• 51:07
  to
• 51:07
  go
• 51:07
  to
• 51:07
  the
• 51:07
  bathroom.
• 51:08
  So
• 51:08
  if
• 51:08
  they
• 51:08
  can't
• 51:08
  speak
• 51:09
  it,
• 51:09
  you
• 51:09
  can
• 51:09
  sit
• 51:09
  with
• 51:09
  them
• 51:10
  and
• 51:10
  you
• 51:10
  just
• 51:10
  create
• 51:10
  a
• 51:10
  beat.
• 51:11
  Like,
• 51:11
  you
• 51:11
  create
• 51:11
  your
• 51:11
  study
• 51:11
  beat.
• 51:12
  And
• 51:12
  like,
• 51:12
  okay,
• 51:12
  let's
• 51:12
  sync
• 51:13
  up
• 51:13
  with
• 51:13
  the
• 51:13
  speed.
• 51:14
  And
• 51:14
  then
• 51:14
  you
• 51:14
  just.
• 51:14
  You
• 51:15
  just
• 51:15
  practice
• 51:15
  with
• 51:15
  them.
• 51:16
  I
• 51:16
  want
• 51:16
  to
• 51:17
  go
• 51:17
  to
• 51:17
  the
• 51:17
  bathroom.
• 51:18
  Right.
• 51:18
  So
• 51:18
  you
• 51:18
  just
• 51:19
  make
• 51:19
  it
• 51:19
  musical.
• 51:19
  And
• 51:20
  like,
• 51:20
  that.
• 51:20
  That
• 51:20
  catches
• 51:21
  a
• 51:21
  lot
• 51:21
  better
• 51:21
  because
• 51:22
  your
• 51:22
  whole
• 51:22
  brain
• 51:22
  is,
• 51:22
  like,
• 51:23
  firing.
• 51:24
  And,
• 51:24
  you
• 51:24
  know,
• 51:24
  you're
• 51:24
  just
• 51:24
  like,
• 51:25
  okay.
• 51:25
  And
• 51:25
  like,
• 51:25
  so
• 51:25
  then.
• 51:26
  Then
• 51:26
  they
• 51:26
  can
• 51:26
  start
• 51:26
  doing
• 51:27
  that.
• 51:27
  And
• 51:27
  so
• 51:28
  the
• 51:28
  same
• 51:29
  thing
• 51:29
  with
• 51:29
  Parkinson's.
• 51:29
  You
• 51:30
  put
• 51:30
  a.
• 51:31
  A
• 51:31
  rhythmic
• 51:31
  component
• 51:32
  to
• 51:32
  it.
• 51:33
  And
• 51:33
  this
• 51:33
  is
• 51:34
  all
• 51:34
  on.
• 51:34
  Like,
• 51:34
  all
• 51:34
  these
• 51:35
  things
• 51:35
  are
• 51:35
  on
• 51:35
  YouTube.
• 51:35
  You
• 51:35
  can
• 51:36
  YouTube
• 51:36
  all
• 51:36
  of
• 51:36
  them.
• 51:37
  You
• 51:38
  see
• 51:38
  this
• 51:38
  man
• 51:38
  with
• 51:39
  Parkinson's.
• 51:39
  He's
• 51:39
  walking,
• 51:40
  he's
• 51:40
  stumbling,
• 51:40
  and
• 51:41
  he's,
• 51:41
  like,
• 51:41
  having
• 51:42
  his
• 51:42
  walker,
• 51:43
  and
• 51:43
  he's
• 51:43
  like,
• 51:43
  okay,
• 51:43
  let's
• 51:44
  put
• 51:44
  in
• 51:44
  this
• 51:44
  musical
• 51:44
  stimulus.
• 51:45
  You
• 51:45
  know,
• 51:45
  like,
• 51:45
  we
• 51:45
  got
• 51:46
  a
• 51:46
  nice
• 51:46
  steady
• 51:46
  beat
• 51:46
  going.
• 51:47
  And,
• 51:47
  like,
• 51:47
  they
• 51:47
  will
• 51:48
  sync
• 51:48
  up
• 51:48
  with
• 51:48
  that
• 51:48
  beat
• 51:49
  and
• 51:49
  start
• 51:50
  walking
• 51:51
  a
• 51:51
  lot
• 51:51
  better.
• 51:52
  So
• 51:53
  through
• 51:54
  music
• 51:54
  therapy,
• 51:54
  the
• 51:55
  goal
• 51:55
  is
• 51:55
  to
• 51:56
  kind
• 51:56
  of
• 51:56
  reduce
• 51:56
  that
• 51:56
  musical
• 51:57
  stimulus,
• 51:58
  the
• 51:58
  external
• 51:59
  stimulus,
• 51:59
  to
• 52:00
  make
• 52:00
  that
• 52:00
  kind
• 52:00
  of
• 52:00
  an
• 52:00
  internal
• 52:01
  thing.
• 52:01
  So
• 52:01
  they
• 52:01
  always
• 52:02
  have
• 52:02
  this
• 52:02
  beat
• 52:02
  so
• 52:02
  they
• 52:03
  can
• 52:03
  kind
• 52:03
  of
• 52:03
  sync
• 52:04
  up
• 52:04
  their
• 52:04
  movements
• 52:05
  or
• 52:05
  with
• 52:06
  that.
• 52:06
  Oh,
• 52:06
  so
• 52:06
  many
• 52:07
  things
• 52:07
  are
• 52:07
  clicking.
• 52:08
  Yeah,
• 52:08
  yeah.
• 52:09
  So
• 52:09
  first
• 52:10
  off,
• 52:10
  while
• 52:10
  you're
• 52:10
  talking,
• 52:11
  it
• 52:11
  reminded
• 52:11
  me
• 52:12
  of
• 52:12
  a
• 52:13
  interview
• 52:13
  that
• 52:13
  I
• 52:13
  had
• 52:14
  listened
• 52:14
  to
• 52:15
  with
• 52:16
  Billie
• 52:16
  Eilish,
• 52:17
  and
• 52:17
  someone
• 52:17
  was
• 52:17
  interviewing
• 52:18
  her.
• 52:18
  And
• 52:18
  so
• 52:18
  she
• 52:19
  actually
• 52:19
  has
• 52:19
  Therese,
• 52:20
  and
• 52:20
  the
• 52:20
  only
• 52:21
  time
• 52:21
  she
• 52:21
  doesn't
• 52:22
  stutter
• 52:23
  and
• 52:23
  show
• 52:24
  signs
• 52:24
  of
• 52:24
  Tourette's
• 52:25
  is
• 52:25
  when
• 52:25
  she's
• 52:25
  on
• 52:26
  stage
• 52:26
  singing.
• 52:27
  That's
• 52:27
  so
• 52:27
  interesting.
• 52:28
  I
• 52:28
  was
• 52:28
  thinking
• 52:29
  the
• 52:29
  same
• 52:29
  thing.
• 52:29
  My
• 52:29
  dad
• 52:30
  said
• 52:30
  he
• 52:30
  met.
• 52:30
  There's
• 52:31
  this
• 52:31
  guy
• 52:31
  who
• 52:31
  used
• 52:31
  to
• 52:32
  do,
• 52:32
  like,
• 52:32
  comedic
• 52:32
  songs.
• 52:33
  Cause,
• 52:33
  like,
• 52:34
  his
• 52:34
  name
• 52:34
  was
• 52:35
  Ray
• 52:35
  Stevens,
• 52:36
  and
• 52:36
  they're
• 52:36
  actually
• 52:37
  kind
• 52:37
  of
• 52:37
  inappropriate
• 52:37
  sometimes
• 52:38
  when
• 52:38
  you
• 52:38
  hear
• 52:38
  them
• 52:38
  Nutties.
• 52:38
  But
• 52:39
  anyway,
• 52:40
  my
• 52:40
  dad
• 52:40
  met
• 52:40
  him
• 52:41
  in
• 52:41
  real
• 52:41
  life
• 52:41
  and
• 52:41
  he
• 52:41
  said
• 52:41
  that
• 52:42
  he
• 52:42
  stutters
• 52:42
  so
• 52:43
  bad,
• 52:43
  but
• 52:44
  on
• 52:44
  the
• 52:44
  stage,
• 52:44
  he's,
• 52:44
  like,
• 52:45
  talking
• 52:45
  so
• 52:45
  fast
• 52:46
  like
• 52:46
  an
• 52:46
  auctioneer.
• 52:47
  Music.
• 52:47
  Yeah.
• 52:48
  The
• 52:48
  magical
• 52:49
  tool.
• 52:50
  Yeah.
• 52:51
  Oh,
• 52:51
  my
• 52:51
  gosh.
• 52:52
  Really,
• 52:52
  Eilish,
• 52:53
  I
• 52:53
  didn't.
• 52:53
  And
• 52:53
  then
• 52:54
  the.
• 52:55
  The
• 52:55
  other
• 52:55
  thing
• 52:55
  that
• 52:55
  clicked,
• 52:56
  when
• 52:56
  I
• 52:56
  get
• 52:56
  super,
• 52:57
  super
• 52:57
  anxious
• 52:57
  and,
• 52:58
  like,
• 52:58
  I'm
• 52:58
  overstimulated
• 52:59
  and
• 52:59
  start
• 52:59
  to
• 52:59
  feel
• 52:59
  like
• 52:59
  I'm
• 52:59
  about
• 52:59
  to
• 53:00
  have
• 53:00
  a
• 53:00
  panic
• 53:00
  attack.
• 53:01
  I'll
• 53:01
  put
• 53:01
  in
• 53:01
  my
• 53:01
  earbuds
• 53:02
  on
• 53:02
  this,
• 53:02
  like,
• 53:03
  steady
• 53:03
  sound.
• 53:04
  And
• 53:05
  so
• 53:05
  then
• 53:06
  it,
• 53:06
  like,
• 53:07
  that's
• 53:07
  all
• 53:07
  I
• 53:07
  hear.
• 53:08
  And
• 53:08
  so
• 53:08
  I
• 53:08
  can
• 53:08
  keep
• 53:09
  walking
• 53:09
  or,
• 53:09
  you
• 53:09
  know,
• 53:10
  in
• 53:10
  the
• 53:10
  crowd
• 53:10
  or
• 53:10
  whatever
• 53:10
  we're
• 53:11
  doing.
• 53:11
  And
• 53:11
  then
• 53:12
  I
• 53:12
  start
• 53:12
  to,
• 53:12
  like,
• 53:13
  calm
• 53:13
  back
• 53:13
  down
• 53:13
  because
• 53:13
  I'm
• 53:13
  just
• 53:14
  listening
• 53:14
  to
• 53:14
  that
• 53:14
  one
• 53:14
  sound
• 53:15
  in
• 53:15
  my.
• 53:15
  That's
• 53:16
  Amazing.
• 53:16
  So
• 53:16
  you're
• 53:17
  using.
• 53:17
  You're
• 53:18
  already
• 53:18
  having
• 53:18
  music
• 53:18
  therapy
• 53:19
  happen?
• 53:19
  Yeah,
• 53:19
  I
• 53:19
  didn't
• 53:20
  really
• 53:20
  realize
• 53:20
  it.
• 53:20
  I
• 53:20
  just
• 53:21
  kind
• 53:21
  of
• 53:21
  did
• 53:21
  that
• 53:21
  because
• 53:21
  I
• 53:21
  was
• 53:22
  like,
• 53:22
  all
• 53:22
  right,
• 53:23
  I'm
• 53:23
  about
• 53:23
  to
• 53:24
  pass
• 53:24
  out,
• 53:24
  so
• 53:25
  we
• 53:25
  gotta
• 53:25
  calm
• 53:25
  down.
• 53:25
  And
• 53:26
  you're
• 53:26
  lucky
• 53:26
  enough
• 53:26
  to
• 53:26
  know,
• 53:26
  like,
• 53:27
  hey,
• 53:27
  this
• 53:27
  works
• 53:27
  for
• 53:27
  me.
• 53:27
  Yeah.
• 53:28
  Wow.
• 53:31
  Maybe
• 53:31
  off
• 53:31
  topic,
• 53:32
  but
• 53:32
  just
• 53:32
  out
• 53:32
  of
• 53:32
  curiosity,
• 53:33
  you
• 53:33
  were
• 53:33
  raised
• 53:34
  by
• 53:34
  missionaries.
• 53:35
  Is
• 53:35
  that
• 53:35
  still
• 53:36
  the
• 53:36
  kind
• 53:36
  of
• 53:36
  lifestyle?
• 53:37
  And
• 53:38
  do
• 53:38
  you
• 53:38
  still.
• 53:38
  Are
• 53:39
  you
• 53:39
  still
• 53:39
  a
• 53:39
  part
• 53:39
  of
• 53:39
  a
• 53:39
  church?
• 53:41
  No,
• 53:42
  no,
• 53:42
  not.
• 53:42
  I'm
• 53:43
  not.
• 53:43
  Yeah,
• 53:44
  that's
• 53:44
  a.
• 53:44
  That's
• 53:44
  an
• 53:44
  interesting
• 53:45
  journey,
• 53:45
  too.
• 53:45
  Yeah.
• 53:46
  Yeah.
• 53:47
  So
• 53:47
  now
• 53:48
  tell
• 53:48
  me.
• 53:49
  Oh,
• 53:50
  yeah.
• 53:50
  So
• 53:50
  it
• 53:51
  started
• 53:51
  when
• 53:52
  it
• 53:52
  started
• 53:52
  it.
• 53:52
  I'd
• 53:53
  always
• 53:53
  kind
• 53:53
  of
• 53:53
  viewed
• 53:54
  the
• 53:54
  church
• 53:55
  as
• 53:55
  a
• 53:55
  bit
• 53:55
  of
• 53:55
  a
• 53:55
  business
• 53:56
  because
• 53:56
  I
• 53:56
  was
• 53:56
  always
• 53:56
  there,
• 53:57
  you
• 53:57
  know,
• 53:57
  at
• 53:58
  church,
• 53:58
  and
• 53:58
  I
• 53:58
  was
• 53:58
  there
• 53:58
  for
• 53:58
  the
• 53:59
  business
• 53:59
  meetings
• 53:59
  and
• 53:59
  all
• 53:59
  this
• 53:59
  other
• 54:00
  stuff.
• 54:00
  And,
• 54:00
  like,
• 54:00
  people
• 54:00
  would
• 54:01
  come
• 54:01
  up
• 54:01
  and
• 54:01
  be
• 54:01
  like,
• 54:01
  well,
• 54:02
  my
• 54:02
  interpretation
• 54:03
  of
• 54:03
  the
• 54:03
  word
• 54:03
  is
• 54:04
  like,
• 54:04
  is
• 54:04
  this.
• 54:05
  So
• 54:05
  you're
• 54:05
  wrong.
• 54:05
  And
• 54:06
  like,
• 54:06
  it
• 54:06
  just.
• 54:06
  It
• 54:06
  was
• 54:06
  just
• 54:06
  like
• 54:07
  a
• 54:07
  lot
• 54:07
  of
• 54:07
  fighting.
• 54:07
  It's
• 54:08
  like.
• 54:08
  But
• 54:08
  we
• 54:08
  also
• 54:08
  have
• 54:08
  to,
• 54:08
  you
• 54:08
  know,
• 54:09
  take
• 54:09
  the
• 54:09
  money.
• 54:09
  Like,
• 54:09
  what
• 54:10
  trips
• 54:10
  are
• 54:10
  we
• 54:10
  going
• 54:10
  to
• 54:10
  take?
• 54:10
  What
• 54:10
  are
• 54:10
  we
• 54:10
  going
• 54:10
  to
• 54:10
  fit?
• 54:11
  You
• 54:11
  know?
• 54:11
  And
• 54:11
  I
• 54:12
  was
• 54:12
  like,
• 54:12
  it's
• 54:12
  just
• 54:12
  so
• 54:12
  much
• 54:13
  bureaucracy
• 54:13
  and
• 54:13
  so
• 54:13
  much,
• 54:14
  like,
• 54:14
  arguing
• 54:15
  between
• 54:15
  what
• 54:16
  people
• 54:16
  think
• 54:16
  is
• 54:16
  this
• 54:17
  and
• 54:17
  that.
• 54:18
  But
• 54:18
  on
• 54:18
  an
• 54:19
  emotional
• 54:19
  level,
• 54:20
  like,
• 54:20
  it
• 54:20
  just
• 54:20
  never
• 54:21
  sat
• 54:21
  with
• 54:21
  me.
• 54:21
  And
• 54:21
  my
• 54:21
  parents
• 54:21
  always
• 54:22
  was
• 54:22
  like,
• 54:22
  you
• 54:22
  know,
• 54:23
  have
• 54:23
  faith
• 54:23
  in
• 54:23
  them,
• 54:23
  trust
• 54:24
  them,
• 54:24
  test
• 54:24
  them,
• 54:24
  do
• 54:24
  all
• 54:24
  this
• 54:25
  other
• 54:25
  stuff.
• 54:25
  And,
• 54:25
  like,
• 54:25
  it
• 54:25
  just.
• 54:26
  I
• 54:26
  never
• 54:27
  felt
• 54:27
  anything,
• 54:28
  you
• 54:28
  know?
• 54:28
  And
• 54:29
  so
• 54:29
  in
• 54:29
  my
• 54:29
  mind,
• 54:29
  it
• 54:29
  was
• 54:30
  just
• 54:30
  really.
• 54:31
  It
• 54:31
  was
• 54:31
  just
• 54:32
  a
• 54:32
  really
• 54:32
  limiting
• 54:33
  experience
• 54:33
  because,
• 54:33
  like,
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  lived
• 54:34
  in
• 54:34
  this
• 54:34
  box,
• 54:35
  kind
• 54:35
  of
• 54:35
  like
• 54:35
  school.
• 54:35
  It
• 54:35
  was
• 54:35
  like,
• 54:35
  oh,
• 54:36
  I
• 54:36
  am
• 54:36
  meant
• 54:36
  to
• 54:37
  go
• 54:37
  to
• 54:37
  school
• 54:37
  because
• 54:37
  that's
• 54:38
  what.
• 54:38
  What.
• 54:38
  What.
• 54:38
  My
• 54:38
  mom
• 54:39
  loves
• 54:39
  to
• 54:39
  say,
• 54:40
  traditional
• 54:41
  wisdom
• 54:42
  or
• 54:42
  something
• 54:42
  like
• 54:42
  that.
• 54:42
  She's
• 54:43
  like,
• 54:43
  that's
• 54:43
  what
• 54:43
  that
• 54:43
  dictates.
• 54:44
  Like,
• 54:44
  you
• 54:45
  know,
• 54:45
  that's
• 54:45
  what
• 54:45
  this
• 54:45
  is
• 54:46
  like.
• 54:46
  You
• 54:46
  go
• 54:46
  to
• 54:46
  school
• 54:46
  because
• 54:47
  that's
• 54:47
  what
• 54:47
  you
• 54:47
  do.
• 54:47
  You
• 54:47
  get
• 54:47
  married
• 54:48
  because
• 54:48
  that's
• 54:48
  what
• 54:48
  you
• 54:48
  do.
• 54:49
  You
• 54:49
  have
• 54:49
  kids
• 54:49
  because
• 54:49
  that's
• 54:49
  what
• 54:50
  you
• 54:50
  do.
• 54:50
  So
• 54:50
  I
• 54:50
  never
• 54:51
  questioned
• 54:51
  anything
• 54:52
  in
• 54:52
  life,
• 54:53
  especially
• 54:53
  these
• 54:54
  past
• 54:54
  couple
• 54:54
  of
• 54:54
  years.
• 54:56
  I've
• 54:56
  been
• 54:56
  on
• 54:56
  an
• 54:57
  amazing
• 54:57
  journey
• 54:58
  of
• 54:58
  just
• 54:58
  completely
• 54:59
  opening
• 54:59
  up
• 54:59
  and
• 54:59
  just
• 55:00
  being
• 55:00
  like,
• 55:00
  I'm
• 55:00
  just
• 55:00
  gonna,
• 55:01
  like,
• 55:02
  discover
• 55:02
  myself
• 55:03
  completely.
• 55:04
  This
• 55:04
  is
• 55:04
  full
• 55:04
  circle.
• 55:05
  It
• 55:05
  is
• 55:06
  possible.
• 55:06
  Can
• 55:06
  I
• 55:07
  ask
• 55:07
  at
• 55:07
  what
• 55:07
  age
• 55:08
  that.
• 55:09
  That
• 55:09
  kind
• 55:09
  of.
• 55:09
  That
• 55:10
  hit?
• 55:15
  How
• 55:15
  old
• 55:15
  are
• 55:15
  you?
• 55:17
  I'm
• 55:17
  45.
• 55:18
  It
• 55:19
  was
• 55:19
  probably
• 55:19
  in
• 55:19
  my
• 55:20
  30s.
• 55:20
  Like,
• 55:20
  I
• 55:20
  always
• 55:21
  kind
• 55:21
  of.
• 55:21
  I
• 55:21
  mean,
• 55:21
  I.
• 55:22
  I'd
• 55:22
  stopped
• 55:22
  going
• 55:23
  to
• 55:23
  church,
• 55:24
  I
• 55:24
  guess,
• 55:25
  after
• 55:25
  I
• 55:25
  moved
• 55:25
  out.
• 55:25
  So
• 55:25
  somewhere
• 55:26
  in
• 55:26
  my.
• 55:26
  In
• 55:26
  my
• 55:26
  20s
• 55:28
  and
• 55:28
  I.
• 55:29
  I
• 55:29
  just
• 55:29
  was
• 55:29
  not
• 55:29
  very
• 55:30
  active.
• 55:30
  I
• 55:30
  didn't
• 55:31
  question
• 55:31
  it.
• 55:31
  I
• 55:31
  was
• 55:31
  like,
• 55:32
  yeah,
• 55:32
  sure,
• 55:32
  there's
• 55:32
  a
• 55:33
  God,
• 55:33
  whatever,
• 55:33
  you
• 55:33
  know,
• 55:33
  But.
• 55:34
  Well,
• 55:35
  but
• 55:35
  I
• 55:35
  think
• 55:36
  in
• 55:36
  my.
• 55:37
  Probably
• 55:37
  my
• 55:38
  later
• 55:38
  30s,
• 55:38
  like,
• 55:39
  my
• 55:40
  ex,
• 55:40
  Amanda
• 55:41
  and
• 55:41
  I,
• 55:41
  like,
• 55:41
  we.
• 55:42
  We
• 55:42
  kind
• 55:42
  of
• 55:42
  went
• 55:42
  on
• 55:42
  this
• 55:42
  journey
• 55:43
  together.
• 55:43
  We
• 55:43
  started
• 55:44
  kind
• 55:44
  of
• 55:44
  questioning
• 55:44
  our
• 55:45
  beliefs
• 55:45
  and
• 55:45
  things
• 55:45
  like
• 55:45
  that.
• 55:46
  She
• 55:46
  was
• 55:46
  raised
• 55:46
  Catholic,
• 55:47
  so
• 55:47
  she
• 55:47
  was
• 55:48
  kind
• 55:48
  of
• 55:48
  in
• 55:48
  that
• 55:48
  same
• 55:48
  boat.
• 55:50
  And
• 55:50
  she
• 55:50
  really
• 55:50
  helped
• 55:50
  me
• 55:51
  a
• 55:51
  lot.
• 55:51
  And
• 55:51
  she
• 55:51
  just
• 55:51
  kind
• 55:52
  of.
• 55:53
  She
• 55:53
  was.
• 55:53
  She
• 55:53
  was
• 55:54
  bolder
• 55:54
  than
• 55:54
  I
• 55:54
  was
• 55:54
  at
• 55:55
  the
• 55:55
  time.
• 55:55
  She's
• 55:55
  like,
• 55:56
  question
• 55:56
  it.
• 55:57
  Like,
• 55:57
  let's
• 55:57
  step
• 55:57
  out
• 55:57
  of
• 55:57
  this
• 55:58
  box.
• 55:58
  See
• 55:58
  what
• 55:58
  they're.
• 55:59
  She
• 55:59
  is
• 55:59
  not
• 55:59
  afraid
• 55:59
  to
• 56:00
  look
• 56:00
  at
• 56:00
  things
• 56:01
  and.
• 56:01
  And
• 56:02
  face
• 56:02
  them
• 56:02
  and
• 56:03
  try
• 56:03
  to
• 56:03
  learn
• 56:03
  from
• 56:03
  them,
• 56:04
  isn't
• 56:04
  she?
• 56:05
  Yeah,
• 56:06
  she
• 56:06
  absolutely
• 56:06
  is.
• 56:07
  So
• 56:07
  she
• 56:07
  really
• 56:07
  kind
• 56:07
  of
• 56:07
  pulled
• 56:08
  me
• 56:08
  out
• 56:08
  of
• 56:08
  that
• 56:08
  box
• 56:08
  and
• 56:08
  like,
• 56:09
  kind
• 56:09
  of
• 56:09
  led
• 56:09
  this.
• 56:10
  This
• 56:10
  journey
• 56:10
  of
• 56:10
  questioning
• 56:11
  things.
• 56:11
  I
• 56:12
  think
• 56:12
  it's
• 56:12
  so
• 56:12
  cool
• 56:13
  how,
• 56:13
  one,
• 56:14
  our
• 56:14
  intro
• 56:14
  went
• 56:15
  right
• 56:15
  on
• 56:15
  into
• 56:16
  this.
• 56:16
  And
• 56:16
  two,
• 56:17
  our
• 56:17
  previous
• 56:18
  episode
• 56:18
  went
• 56:18
  right
• 56:19
  on
• 56:19
  into
• 56:19
  this.
• 56:19
  I
• 56:20
  know
• 56:20
  you
• 56:20
  can't
• 56:20
  make
• 56:20
  this
• 56:21
  shit
• 56:21
  up.
• 56:21
  Like,
• 56:21
  it
• 56:22
  just.
• 56:22
  I
• 56:22
  feel
• 56:22
  like
• 56:23
  it.
• 56:23
  Honestly,
• 56:24
  I
• 56:24
  feel
• 56:24
  like
• 56:24
  it
• 56:24
  was
• 56:25
  inspirational,
• 56:25
  and
• 56:25
  I
• 56:26
  feel
• 56:26
  like
• 56:26
  the
• 56:26
  things
• 56:26
  that
• 56:26
  we're
• 56:27
  putting
• 56:27
  out
• 56:27
  into
• 56:27
  the
• 56:27
  universe
• 56:28
  are
• 56:28
  coming
• 56:28
  back
• 56:28
  to
• 56:28
  us.
• 56:29
  And
• 56:29
  I
• 56:29
  think
• 56:29
  having
• 56:30
  you
• 56:30
  on
• 56:31
  it
• 56:31
  was
• 56:31
  just.
• 56:31
  It
• 56:31
  was
• 56:31
  meant
• 56:31
  to
• 56:32
  be.
• 56:32
  It's
• 56:32
  just
• 56:32
  adding
• 56:32
  to
• 56:33
  the
• 56:33
  story.
• 56:33
  We're
• 56:33
  just
• 56:33
  creating
• 56:34
  a
• 56:34
  story.
• 56:35
  That's
• 56:36
  beautiful.
• 56:37
  Yeah.
• 56:38
  That
• 56:38
  is
• 56:38
  beautiful.
• 56:38
  Yeah.
• 56:39
  Thank
• 56:39
  you
• 56:39
  for
• 56:39
  having,
• 56:39
  by
• 56:40
  the
• 56:40
  way.
• 56:40
  Speaking
• 56:40
  of
• 56:40
  which,
• 56:40
  by
• 56:41
  the
• 56:41
  way,
• 56:41
  I've
• 56:41
  been
• 56:41
  listening
• 56:41
  to
• 56:41
  some
• 56:41
  of
• 56:42
  several
• 56:42
  of
• 56:43
  the
• 56:43
  episodes
• 56:43
  that
• 56:43
  you
• 56:44
  guys
• 56:44
  put
• 56:44
  on,
• 56:44
  and
• 56:44
  I.
• 56:45
  When
• 56:45
  I
• 56:45
  was
• 56:46
  listening
• 56:46
  to
• 56:46
  the
• 56:46
  Shamanic
• 56:47
  episode
• 56:47
  last
• 56:47
  night,
• 56:47
  I
• 56:48
  was.
• 56:48
  I
• 56:48
  had
• 56:48
  a
• 56:48
  giggle
• 56:48
  a
• 56:49
  little
• 56:49
  bit
• 56:49
  because
• 56:49
  I
• 56:49
  was.
• 56:49
  Because
• 56:50
  you
• 56:50
  were
• 56:50
  like,
• 56:50
  oh,
• 56:50
  Melissa
• 56:51
  Walker.
• 56:51
  And
• 56:51
  I
• 56:51
  was
• 56:51
  like,
• 56:52
  you
• 56:52
  know,
• 56:52
  I
• 56:52
  don't
• 56:52
  think
• 56:52
  I've
• 56:52
  heard
• 56:53
  an
• 56:53
  episode
• 56:53
  where
• 56:53
  you
• 56:54
  did
• 56:54
  not.
• 56:56
  And
• 56:57
  I'm
• 56:57
  like.
• 56:58
  You
• 56:58
  mentioned
• 56:58
  Melissa
• 56:59
  Walker
• 56:59
  as
• 56:59
  much
• 56:59
  as
• 57:00
  Melissa
• 57:00
  Walker
• 57:01
  mentions
• 57:01
  horses.
• 57:02
  That's
• 57:02
  hilarious.
• 57:04
  I
• 57:04
  guess
• 57:05
  she.
• 57:05
  Do
• 57:05
  you
• 57:05
  know
• 57:05
  Melissa?
• 57:06
  Yeah.
• 57:07
  Oh,
• 57:07
  yeah.
• 57:08
  Yeah.
• 57:09
  She
• 57:09
  played
• 57:09
  a
• 57:09
  big
• 57:10
  role
• 57:10
  in
• 57:10
  my
• 57:10
  life.
• 57:11
  Right.
• 57:11
  That's
• 57:12
  interesting,
• 57:12
  because
• 57:12
  I
• 57:12
  didn't.
• 57:13
  She
• 57:13
  is
• 57:13
  amazing.
• 57:13
  She
• 57:14
  got
• 57:14
  me
• 57:14
  started
• 57:14
  on
• 57:14
  my.
• 57:15
  My
• 57:15
  therapy.
• 57:15
  Oh.
• 57:16
  You
• 57:16
  know,
• 57:16
  she's
• 57:16
  like.
• 57:16
  She
• 57:16
  started
• 57:17
  it
• 57:17
  all.
• 57:17
  I
• 57:17
  love
• 57:17
  it.
• 57:17
  I'm
• 57:18
  like.
• 57:18
  I
• 57:18
  tell
• 57:18
  everybody,
• 57:18
  like,
• 57:19
  go
• 57:19
  to
• 57:19
  therapy.
• 57:19
  It's
• 57:19
  amazing.
• 57:20
  As
• 57:20
  everyone
• 57:21
  should.
• 57:21
  Right?
• 57:22
  Yeah.
• 57:23
  Don't
• 57:23
  wait
• 57:23
  until
• 57:23
  it's
• 57:24
  already
• 57:24
  too
• 57:24
  hard.
• 57:25
  Yeah,
• 57:25
  it
• 57:25
  doesn't.
• 57:26
  Yeah,
• 57:26
  yeah,
• 57:27
  yeah,
• 57:28
  yeah.
• 57:28
  The
• 57:28
  way.
• 57:28
  The
• 57:29
  harder
• 57:29
  it
• 57:29
  gets.
• 57:29
  Yep.
• 57:29
  I
• 57:30
  love
• 57:30
  it
• 57:30
  so.
• 57:31
  Well,
• 57:31
  thanks
• 57:31
  so
• 57:31
  much
• 57:32
  for
• 57:32
  waking
• 57:32
  up
• 57:33
  to
• 57:33
  join
• 57:33
  us
• 57:33
  this
• 57:33
  early.
• 57:34
  That's
• 57:34
  right.
• 57:34
  It's
• 57:35
  like
• 57:35
  9am
• 57:36
  where
• 57:36
  he
• 57:36
  is
• 57:37
  yeah,
• 57:38
  we
• 57:38
  appreciate
• 57:39
  you.
• 57:39
  It's
• 57:39
  really
• 57:39
  fun.
• 57:40
  Thank
• 57:40
  you.
• 57:41
  I
• 57:41
  appreciate
• 57:41
  you
• 57:41
  guys
• 57:41
  too.
• 57:42
  Thanks
• 57:42
  for
• 57:42
  listening
• 57:42
  to
• 57:43
  us.
• 57:43
  Like
• 57:43
  you
• 57:44
  actually
• 57:44
  heard
• 57:44
  some
• 57:44
  of
• 57:44
  our
• 57:45
  stuff.
• 57:45
  I
• 57:45
  think
• 57:45
  you're
• 57:45
  our
• 57:46
  first
• 57:46
  guest
• 57:46
  that's
• 57:46
  listened
• 57:47
  to
• 57:47
  pre
• 57:48
  episodes.
• 57:48
  Yeah,
• 57:49
  thank
• 57:49
  you.
• 57:49
  Really.
• 57:50
  Yeah.
• 57:50
  Good
• 57:50
  stuff.
• 57:51
  I
• 57:51
  love
• 57:51
  it.
• 57:51
  Yeah,
• 57:51
  thank
• 57:51
  you
• 57:51
  so
• 57:51
  much.
• 57:52
  It's
• 57:52
  really
• 57:52
  good.
• 57:53
  Well,
• 57:53
  yeah,
• 57:53
  we'll
• 57:54
  be
• 57:54
  in
• 57:54
  touch.
• 57:54
  We
• 57:55
  will.
• 57:55
  It
• 57:55
  was
• 57:55
  good
• 57:56
  to
• 57:56
  talk
• 57:56
  to
• 57:56
  you.
• 57:56
  Good
• 57:56
  to
• 57:56
  see
• 57:56
  see
• 57:56
  your
• 57:57
  face.
• 57:59
  If
• 57:59
  you
• 57:59
  liked
• 57:59
  what
• 57:59
  you
• 58:00
  heard
• 58:00
  today,
• 58:00
  hit
• 58:00
  that
• 58:01
  like
• 58:01
  button
• 58:01
  or
• 58:02
  the
• 58:02
  subscribe
• 58:02
  button
• 58:03
  or
• 58:03
  whatever
• 58:04
  button
• 58:04
  it
• 58:04
  is
• 58:04
  that
• 58:04
  you
• 58:05
  have.
• 58:05
  Just
• 58:06
  hit
• 58:06
  it.
• 58:07
  To
• 58:07
  continue
• 58:07
  this
• 58:07
  conversation
• 58:08
  with
• 58:08
  us,
• 58:08
  join
• 58:09
  the
• 58:09
  Skirts
• 58:09
  up
• 58:10
  show
• 58:10
  on.
• 58:11
  What?
• 58:11
  What
• 58:11
  is
• 58:12
  it
• 58:12
  again?
• 58:12
  Well,
• 58:12
  we
• 58:12
  have
• 58:13
  Facebook,
• 58:13
  we
• 58:14
  have
• 58:14
  YouTube
• 58:15
  and
• 58:15
  Pinterest
• 58:16
  and
• 58:17
  no,
• 58:17
  we
• 58:17
  do
• 58:17
  not
• 58:17
  have
• 58:17
  a
• 58:18
  Pinterest
• 58:18
  but
• 58:18
  we
• 58:18
  have
• 58:19
  Instagram.
• 58:20
  You
• 58:20
  knew
• 58:20
  what
• 58:20
  I
• 58:20
  meant.
• 58:22
  Rate
• 58:23
  and
• 58:23
  review.
• 58:24
  Rate
• 58:24
  and
• 58:25
  review.