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Episode 187 | Big Talker · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, I don't know.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now you show me that wine, turn around and load me shy.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: Hello, hello, hello hello, yeah, so get a lot of money where you blow my mind, hold me tight and bring down wine.
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: Hello, hello, hello, hello.
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: You ready to sing?
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: Come here, are you ready?
• 1:19
  Speaker 2: Are you ready for it?
• 1:22
  Speaker 2: What kind of low energy singing is this?
• 1:24
  Speaker 2: Are you ready for it?
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: What kind of low energy singing is this?
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: Are you ready for it?
• 1:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why give me that?
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: Don't hold back.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: Wind in tuck, ride in, run to the back.
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: No long charge, just come to me Sing.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: Give you that sweet type of love, sweet type of love.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: Come give me that sweet type of love, real type of love.
• 1:44
  Speaker 2: Hold me darling Cause whole night.
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: We charming.
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, say she.
• 1:55
  Speaker 3: Sweet like a mango, yeah, do the thing like a banjo.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: Them other girl them don't know how she drop the thing like a go-go.
• 2:03
  Speaker 3: Dad Say what you say, what you say, what you say, Say sexy girl will you come my way?
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode 188 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: That was smooth, that was smooth, that was smooth, that was smooth.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: That's smooth kind of guy.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
• 2:29
  Speaker 2: Welcome to all the new listeners.
• 2:30
  Speaker 2: We're glad to have you on board.
• 2:31
  Speaker 2: We have a special guest in the building.
• 2:35
  Speaker 5: Hello.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: Jesus Christ Special guest.
• 2:39
  Speaker 2: Ex-producer, long abandoned.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: Been same in this room since Christmas time.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: How are you going, sir?
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going good.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: What are you here to talk about today?
• 2:48
  Speaker 5: Graduation.
• 2:53
  Speaker 2: So if you didn't know, I mean, I think I talked about it last week, but congratulations to the class.
• 2:58
  Speaker 2: You tell me now what's your name of the group.
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: Class of how do you say it?
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Class of B.
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  Speaker 5: Bagan School of Distinction.
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: Class of.
• 3:10
  Speaker 5: Bagan.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, guys, this is a full-starting kind of episode.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: What kind of man you will make.
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: How it go.
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  Speaker 5: Bagan School of Distinction.
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  Speaker 2: Class of 2024.
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: That's great.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: You'll see what kind of episode this is.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: Right, it's going to be a rough, rough, rough episode, you good.
• 3:32
  Speaker 5: Cut out, cut out.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: You ain't cutting out nothing.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: We're going, as is One take one take.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: One take champion.
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: Talking about one take champion.
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: We're here to celebrate not just the Bagan School of Distinction graduating class of 2024, but we're here with the valedictorian.
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: Congratulations, Thank you.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: How did it feel to be named the valedictorian of your graduating class?
• 3:55
  Speaker 5: Well, I was happy, I was excited, I was shocked, I was everything.
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: I can feel all the emotions.
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: So how long ago you knew you were going to be valedictorian?
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: Because in the ceremony last night the teachers nobody knew until it was time to announce the valedictorian.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: How long ago you knew?
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: Last month I was, so you have a month yeah okay, so what was it where you're dead?
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: Where you're dead because the big part of the valedictorian, as everybody would know it would be the speech part of it, right?
• 4:23
  Speaker 2: So where you, you did to prepare for your speech.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: So I well, I wrote my speech but why are you making it sound so easy, like if everybody could just write a speech?
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: What was the steps?
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: You're looking for pointers for people who are speeches because the speech I'll tell everybody was excellent.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'll play the whole speech.
• 4:43
  Speaker 2: On the episode the man say he don't want to hear back his voice, although he have on headphones now listening to his own voice.
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: But what was your preparation like?
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: How was the steps you went about if you had to tell somebody what to do to prepare a speech, if they had to do what you did?
• 4:56
  Speaker 5: number one have some kind of structure.
• 4:59
  Speaker 5: Number two say it from the heart, of course right and number three, try to use very descriptive words and just make it fun so you had fun yeah so graduation ceremony was saturday night and they had several different performances as well.
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 2: What were some of the performances mr quiller had for you guys?
• 5:24
  Speaker 5: multiple people singing right and we had Indian dance and African dance well, ganges made the Nile right.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: Yep, alright.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: Good, where's the Ganges?
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: River where's the Nile and where's the Nile?
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: River oh my god, I don't know how this works.
• 5:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know how this works, but you had a part to play as well in the performances, right?
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how this would.
• 5:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know how this would go, but so loud, but you had a part To play as well In the performances right, which we didn't know about at all.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: It was a complete surprise to us.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: A rap, what was the song?
• 5:54
  Speaker 5: See you again.
• 5:55
  Speaker 2: How did the song go and why are you shouting at the people when the song is going on?
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: What was the song?
• 6:01
  Speaker 2: I have a voice too good.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: What's the song?
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: You not hear any voice?
• 6:04
  Speaker 5: No, it's just like I hear it.
• 6:06
  Speaker 5: Okay, but it's on and so on Alright.
• 6:08
  Speaker 2: What was the song you all sang?
• 6:10
  Speaker 5: We sang See you Again.
• 6:11
  Speaker 2: How was it go?
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  Speaker 6: It's been a long day.
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  Speaker 6: Without you my friend and I can't tell you about it when I see you again.
• 6:23
  Speaker 6: See you again.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: You can mainly rap.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: When I see you again.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: When you rap this, come in, nah, nah, nah.
• 6:39
  Speaker 5: Not doing that rap over again.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: We want to hear things from the performance.
• 6:43
  Speaker 5: Play the song and I'll rap it.
• 6:45
  Speaker 2: No, youtube will strike me, so how it's coming?
• 6:54
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you all about it when I see you again.
• 6:59
  Speaker 6: When I see you again.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: Go with that one, all right.
• 7:01
  Speaker 5: Again.
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  Speaker 5: Who knew All the plans we flew, good things we've been through.
• 7:06
  Speaker 5: They'd all be standing right here talking to you about another path.
• 7:10
  Speaker 5: I know we love to hit the road and laugh, but something told me that it wouldn't last had to switch up.
• 7:15
  Speaker 5: Look at things different, see the bigger picture.
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  Speaker 5: Those were the days.
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  Speaker 5: Hard work forever pays.
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  Speaker 5: Now I see you in a better place.
• 7:23
  Speaker 2: So you got accents.
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  Speaker 2: You forever pays.
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  Speaker 2: Now I'll see you in a better place.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: So you got accent, you turn yankee graduation congratulations.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: All that great rap.
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: So you and some, who are some of the other children who who rap with along with you after you rap, who put your passing mic to, a girl, uh girl named this is rough.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: Who else you don't know?
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: You don't know nice people.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of man you'll make.
• 7:43
  Speaker 5: I don't know what kind of man you'll make a girl named michaela right there was an ex-girlfriend named leshawn and a boy named elijah so salute to michaela, elijah and jessara.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Jessara had plenty parts in the performances, right, jessara is a young star.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: But again, salute to back in school distinction because they made it special for these children for their graduation.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: I remember in my graduating time.
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  Speaker 2: You know what we did for graduation.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: What Nothing.
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: They'd carry us to church.
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  Speaker 2: You graduate, you go to your next school.
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  Speaker 2: That was it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember having gowns to buy, like a lot of these girls.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Come out in full gowns and tiaras, what you wear, I wear a suit, suit and bow tie and all these things, you know, I mean fresh out of francis fashions, everybody looking fresh out of detour detour louboutins on their feet.
• 8:29
  Speaker 2: So the the performances, everything went smooth.
• 8:33
  Speaker 2: The children did a great job.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: I think y'all, y'all are a great school.
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  Speaker 2: Y'all are very brave young people most young people.
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: I know your age, frightened to go on a stage and frightened to do things, but y'all did it in an excellent way.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: I used to do that since I was young, so you're doing it, since you're small, yeah, yeah, so we're gonna revisit a few of them, right?
• 8:49
  Speaker 2: What was his first speech you remember doing?
• 8:51
  Speaker 2: You remember doing a speech before?
• 8:53
  Speaker 5: yes, in preschool what was it?
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: about caesar augustus well, I want to tell only something about caesar augustus.
• 8:59
  Speaker 2: Right, zachary is a man.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: When he gets something to do, and it's something you're very proud of, you for right, and I have to tell you that when you get something to do, you take it very seriously and you rehearse your thing over and over, even for this speech.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: When I ask you you want to go it over again, yeah, and so it's usually a couple more times, and that will serve you well in life, because when you're very, very, very prepared, no matter what go wrong, you'll land the plane.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: And I want to tell you like, well, everybody been telling you all the great things about your speech this week.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: Right, and you said it went perfect yeah but I want to tell you it didn't go perfect at all.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: Plenty little things went wrong.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Miss was fixing your hat.
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: Your hat was falling off.
• 9:35
  Speaker 2: She come and take it off.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: They had a bottle in front on the podium.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: She moved that she come and adjusting light had to come on.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: But when you're well prepared, none of them things can phase you.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: None of them, things can phase you.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: So when this man had to do caesar augustus, you had to be a little little child.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: Your mother could know better than me, but he was probably about six months old or something like that and you went up on the podium confidently and I what I remember.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: You remember anything else about his speech besides caesar augustus?
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: no me neither me neither, but what I do remember is how you finish it, because the last thing you had to say was for accountability, and this man say for accountability, well rehearsed, and the whole podium, everybody in the audience, mash up.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: That was at Open Bible, preschool, right?
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: So you're always there and prepared, and I have a lineup of songs today, of songs that Zachary has performed before.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: You remember some of these songs you performed.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: We'll play a few for them today, right, right.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: So you're well rehearsed and you're going into it.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: So take me through the emotions of the day.
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: What was your feeling on the morning of?
• 10:41
  Speaker 5: Well, when I woke up I was pretty relaxed the morning of well when I woke up.
• 10:49
  Speaker 5: I was pretty relaxed.
• 10:50
  Speaker 5: I just went on a normal day breakfast, get ready.
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: It's only about, uh, two hours before the graduation I started to get a little nervous, and then I'll before when I'll.
• 10:59
  Speaker 5: Slightly before we arrived, you know, the butterflies started to hit.
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: That was the roughest part.
• 11:05
  Speaker 5: And then during the graduation, miss had said the speech was going to be like one of the last things and I was like, oh, oh, she told you that.
• 11:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know, because we didn't know what time it was going to come on.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: We kept waiting to see when you would be ready, but she said it was gonna be one of the last things yeah, and I was to the crowd.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: It would be one of the last things and I was like, oh gosh so for those things you prefer if, when the things start, you just go first I prefer I go midway because first, I have a different kind of pressure too, right?
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: yeah, first is that pressure right and at the end, well, you know you're gonna eat right after.
• 11:41
  Speaker 5: So I was like people can't be hungry, gosh.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: So you were nervous all the way through the ceremony or you were cool for the ceremony.
• 11:49
  Speaker 2: I see you and your partners liming, all about having a good time.
• 11:53
  Speaker 5: I couldn't be nervous in front of people, but I was very nervous.
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, I tell you, sometimes nerves is be excitement, so you're excited to get on.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: So what was it like then when you were announced as the valedictorian, Before we get to that crossing the stage, how was that moment for you After all these years?
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: You went to about seven different preschools, about 35 primary schools to go.
• 12:12
  Speaker 5: This is the longest yellow belt in the history of yellow belts People, people, people.
• 12:15
  Speaker 5: I went to two or three preschools.
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: About five I went to two primary schools.
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: And I have two yellow belts in karate and taekwondo.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Can't get past yellow at all.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: Boy who is a rough life, rough, rough life I have an orange belt so how did it?
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: Which orange belt?
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: You have an orange belt, yes, well, congrats.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: I never hear about that.
• 12:40
  Speaker 2: So, crossing the stage when they announce you and you have to go and collect your diploma again things we never do in primary school what was that moment like when you heard zachary shepherd babb to cross the stage for your primary school graduation?
• 12:52
  Speaker 5: well, I had already knew all right.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: So I say I had to kill the nerves because that would have messed kind of messed me up so I was like I just thought about all the times I rehearse, all the lines I may forget so when you collect in your diploma, you're thinking about it, so you're just enjoying the part that you're graduating.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, crossing the stage to collect the diploma.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: How was that?
• 13:13
  Speaker 5: rough episode, people yeah I'm having a hard time um, when I was collecting my diploma, I was pretty relaxed.
• 13:22
  Speaker 5: I was like I wasn't, I wasn't so emotional.
• 13:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, I collected it and gone.
• 13:28
  Speaker 5: All the girls, all the girls was dead in the back there it was dead in help me also, you wasn't feeling emotional.
• 13:35
  Speaker 5: You didn't feel proud of yourself like I feel proud of myself and I feel a little bit, a little bit emotional okay all right.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: So and then you and your partners and the girls in the class, all those linemen kind of backstage after you collected.
• 13:49
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, at that point in time you're starting to get focused on time to deliver your speech at that time, hmm it wasn't, that wasn't on your mind yet that wasn't in my mind because at that point in time it's on my mind your mother's emotional, your two grandmothers emotional, your grandfather's emotional, everybody, everybody's dealing with emotional because we know you used to come up next.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: So when you are announced, what was that feeling like?
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Because none of the class, none of your friends didn't know you was lying to your friends for the whole time, keeping it a secret.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: How was it?
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: When you were announced, I was fine, honestly it was good at that point.
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: So walking up and everything all that time, the nerves done when it's time to start, yeah, alright, so give me the opening line of your speech now.
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: Remember what the opening line is.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Good evening.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: After all this talk about rehearsal, you carry on what the opening line of your speech is okay, yeah, I remember go ahead.
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: Let me hear it good evening, esteemed teachers, parents, families and fellow radions keep going my name is lacrysia bab and I'm honored to be valedictorian of bangan school of distinctions, graduating class of 2024 it was much better on the night.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: I know it is happening right now we're having a lot of fall starting right now but it was much better on the night.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I know it is happening right now, we're having a lot of fall starting right now, but it was much better listen I instantly forget that whole speech so you don't want to look back at the speech you don't want to, where you feel like we should play the speech frame that we're gonna frame it for sure.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: That's something you had to keep.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: This, it's a moment that you should be proud of.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: Every class, every graduating year of every school, only has one valedictorian and nobody could ever take that away from you.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: That's something that you did and you didn't just accomplish it on the night.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: That's accomplished by years of hard work and several different primary schools is the most experienced primary school go out in the world, going to four or five different primary schools.
• 15:40
  Speaker 5: I went, some of them at the same time some of them at the same time, what I wanted to to a lot of different primary schools.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: It's impressive.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: So how was it?
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: In the moment speed start, you're going through your motion, you're thanking these people.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling at that point in time?
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: I wasn't really thinking about anything.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: I was just saying this speech, because if I think about something, I might mess myself up.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's what rehearsal is.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: You know, it's the same with sports, it's the same with everything that I do.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: There's something that they talk about called a flow state.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: You ever hear about it?
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: yeah the flow state is when you're so focused you don't even know what happened around you.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: Some people describe it as blacking out.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: And you're a man like football, right?
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the greatest footballers in the world.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: They're not thinking when the ball come into them.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: You know they've rehearsed or practiced so many times that when the ball come into them, they have an arsenal of hundreds of different things that they could do they could trap, they could turn, they could pass, they could shoot, they could dribble, and they've done it repetitively so much times that the part of the brain that working on that motion you know what it's called automatic in your flow state, in your best performance ever.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I saw it it, I saw it in you.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: After I see you start with your opening line, I say all right, you're good to go, because all that time I was nervous too, but I say all right, you're good to go, and how it felt in the end when it's time to close off your speech and everything.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I felt relieved.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: What do you mean?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Relieved you well, a month, that ain't something.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: So long that was.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: That was news.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: It was news.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think you had any nerves at all coming down to the end of your speech.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Remember the last line of your speech.
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: You could deliver it well, why are you saying nerves?
• 17:15
  Speaker 5: Right, the first line is giving nerves and the last line is giving?
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Because you don't want to mess up that last line at all yeah, I guess, especially when everything went perfect before that.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: All right, that's fair, and you found that the responses were good throughout through the I find the responses were amazing like what was, what you felt like was the biggest response you stand innovation so you guys stand innovation many.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I talk all my life.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: I never got a stand innovation for nothing.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: I ever do.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: All these years I talk to him.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: But they say the sins of the parents is for the child.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: What?
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: So where are we going with this?
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I have an episode lined up with this.
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: I salute again to Bagan School of Distinction Mr Quilla and Mr Navin.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: Anybody else you want want to salute, you want to hail out some of your friends I don't, I don't think so.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: I don't want to reveal the name.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I already revealed too much, okay so you're keeping anyone to shout out your friends, you don't want us, only little partners.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: We always talking about tristan darian, justin Darian.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: Serene.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, serene Aidan.
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: Arvin.
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: I didn't want to say.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Arvin name on this podcast.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, arvin.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: So, boy, you're trying to degrade the platform.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: What is going on right now?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why this is happening.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: I don't want the man to get exposed.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: He always exposed, he always exposed.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: That's your partner, who you're always talking to on the phone, right?
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so I think it was a great night.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: What about the rest of the night now?
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: After the, after the, the formal part, after his speech, and so on?
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: You all had a good graduation.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You enjoy it yeah all right, good, so what are you looking forward to next?
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Vacation or vacation.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: You've been on vacation, so what are you looking forward to next?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: July, august vacation.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: July, august vacation is on, but what came in before that?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: There's a little thing called results.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, these fellas are never studying that at all.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: These fellas don't care about that whatsoever.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, forget about july august yeah, I know, I know, I know.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: So results coming right when results coming out friday friday.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So what we have planned, what you're doing for results so first I'll be halfway across china, right?
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Whatever when results come out, okay, so what you're planning to do?
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: um, what when results actually come out?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: you're not planning anything home for results, like we don't have any results party or nothing like that.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: What's the plan?
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: well, I plan to pull out all night.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, thursday okay, so what's your all night?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: What do you mean all night?
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: staying up all night with my two parents you mean your two parents dad, I go to my bed.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I go to my bed.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: They're gonna keep me up all night.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not a young man.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: So for those who don't know, uh, I see a result, one that's coming out at midnight on thursday night, I believe.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Is it thursday night or friday night, so it's Friday night.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: That's pretty much Saturday morning.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I class Saturday morning, so I'm going to keep me up till midnight and I can't do the people class when Saturday morning comes.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: But you're looking forward to it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling?
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: How are you feeling now that you're close to the results?
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: You're paying all the work.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: You're nervous about it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: There ain't nothing to be nervous about, man.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: You're playing all the work, as normal.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: To be nervous or excited about those things when the, when the momentous occasion, so they will come.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: And you're playing all the work.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You did the.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: You do the leg work with the determination and discipline as miss was saying in the graduation is admirable.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: So all you have to do now is wait and result.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Remember, always tell you about results.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Why always tell you about results?
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: sometimes you do the work and you don't get the results.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you're not guaranteed to get results because you do the work.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: The only thing you can control is the work that you put in and you think you're putting in the work.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're putting in more than enough work, man.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So the results, let the results fall where they may be.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Come in here Friday night, or whenever, to do an all-nighter, and the purpose of the all-nighter is to celebrate the victory of SCA.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Let the results fall where they may.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: We come to celebrate, right?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: So what we do in this episode?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: We have some things lined up about talking because this man talk off his face at the graduation, get standing ovation and so on.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Maybe I will close the episode by playing his speech speech.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: How long your speech was?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: six minutes so you see how the man rehearsed the man properly, well know his speech, where he landed and everything you know.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you know you take your whole extra minutes on the night yeah, you know why so much applause, so much applause, so much.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: A stopping for applause is remarkable.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: So if you want, you could hang around till the end of the episode.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: And and you will hear, I'll close with his speech.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I'm very, I'm very, very proud of it.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: All your parents, your grandparents, your uncles and aunties, everybody's extremely proud of you for what you did at graduation.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: So I want to play a few things here this week One.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I will start with a song that I know that I missed last week.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I played last week, zachary, what I had, a, because it was Labor Day last week.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I had lined up a whole set of songs about working right and I searched for all kinds of songs about working and very, very quickly.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: One thing you will know fast when you do this episode right Is that people?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: will tell you all the things you do wrong.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: They don't too much tell you all the different things you do right and how great the episode was and all those things.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: It's telling them things sometime, but most of the time they call it immediately to tell you all the thing you do wrong.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: And when you play song about work, I play all kind of walk up song and all them things and I forget one of the main songs about work, which is one of the best songs about work, which you also perform in a like standard two or standard three.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Remember what song that is?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Was this song?
• 22:59
  Speaker 5: I come for this work sign me up.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I come for this work.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Sign me up, I come for this work.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for you to sing.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sing it.
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 23:32
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Miss Russell, you remember that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I want to sign my signature, cross my teeth, because I have all the requirements that you need my resume Flawless, suitable, diverse, reliable.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: If you're hiring, I just want a good work.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Bus lady, I come for this work, sign me up.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I come for it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Bus lady, I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: I come for this work.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I love a working company.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: You see, I have a vac.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I go be number one employee.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: I aim to be as guaranteed I'm fixed and ready, I write it well equipped, the structure, I time it in this economy of me looking for work.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Boss lady, I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: I come for this work, sign me up.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I come for it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Boss lady, I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I never walk in front of it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So good, I walk in front of it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I never get in right away.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I will not put me back in it For your walking company.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: So good at walking in front of me.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I never come in right away, I never put me back in it, I never walk in properly.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Boss Lady, I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk, sign me up.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: I come for this walk.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: Boss Lady, I come for this walk, Sign me up.
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: I come for this work, Sign me up.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: I come for this work, Sign me up.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: I come for this work, Sign me up.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: I come for this work, Sign me up.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: I come for this work.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: And I will work it properly.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: You remember performing that Zachary Yep.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: How did that feel.
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: That felt great.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I get to walk around, perform, basically do what I want, sing the song.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had the whole place.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: You had the whole place going you perform.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: It was the Calypso competition for San Fernando Boys, one of the many primary schools that I went to, and one of the two, one of the many and you were as guest performer.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: You was the star, the thing you dress up like Kes, and all these things you remember.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: You remember any other songs that you sing during your time at primary schools?
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: absolutely not you don't remember I don't know what kind of man you make you remember this yeah, what song is this mighty sparrow?
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: What's the name of this song?
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: education, education, education power rising needs more education needs more education, which is the key to success.
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: Share and go to school and learn well.
• 26:57
  Speaker 8: Otherwise later on in life you'll catch red hair.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: Without an education in your head, your whole life will be pure misery.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: You're better off dead, for there is simply no room in this.
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: For I know that you can't be the boy or girl.
• 27:22
  Speaker 8: Don't allow idle companions to lead you astray.
• 27:28
  Speaker 8: To earn tomorrow, you've got to learn today.
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: Learn today For employment.
• 27:55
  Speaker 8: Yes, employment, you must be intelligent, so existential, very essential to have your credentials.
• 28:01
  Speaker 8: You will be the last one to be hired and the very first one to be fired.
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: Children go to school and learn well, otherwise later on in life you will catch real hell.
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: Without an education in your head, your life will be pure misery.
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: You're better off dead, for there is simply no room In this whole wide world For another that you can't deal With.
• 28:49
  Speaker 8: A boy or girl, hear the message.
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: Don't follow idle companions or you will get burned.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: To earn to earn, you gotta learn.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: You wanna say something?
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: No, I say a Polonaise.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I say a Polonaise.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: Ignorance always impregnates.
• 29:42
  Speaker 8: Education saves you much distress.
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: So learn, learn, learn as much as you can.
• 29:48
  Speaker 8: This nation's future is in your hands.
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: Children, go to school and learn well, otherwise later on in life you go catch real hell.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Without an education in your head, your whole life could be pure misery.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: You're better off dead, for there is simply no room in this whole wide world For an uneducated little boy or girl.
• 30:20
  Speaker 8: Don't allow idle companions to lead you astray.
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: To earn tomorrow, you've got to learn today.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: You find that a good message in this song, very good message, right?
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: All children in school, that should be something that's taught on the primary school curriculum.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: And you went and you sing that and you deliver that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Well, you remember singing it.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Nope, you don't remember singing that.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: No, yeah, you had to rehearse that many, many times Because it's not the easiest song to sing.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: It's plenty of lyrics and stuff, but as usual, you're well rehearsed, you're putting the time.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: So I think the class was singing the whole song and you had come out and sing one verse.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: So that might be why you don't remember the whole song, but you had rehearsed.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I think it was the second or the third verse, or maybe two verses you had your l help part seemed familiar there's a chorus, so the whole class was singing.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: But the message behind the song is the important part right sang by who?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Mighty sparrow great mighty sparrow right.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: You remember singing another song in boy school.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Again, what was the song?
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: black man feeling to party tonight.
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: The black man feeling to jam, jam, jam jam.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: The night the black man feel into boogie, woogie Bam bam bam.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: So come on, come on, now you do it, now you do it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: All right, all right, all right, all right, sing Tonight.
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: We're going on have some fun.
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: I just feeling to party the way we used to when we was young, just put on something sexy.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Be free to move around, make sure the children.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Okay what?
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Be free to move around, make sure the children.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, tim Tim one come.
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: Tonight the black man feeling to party.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Tonight the black man feeling to jam, jam, jam, jam, jam.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Tonight the black man feeling to boogie, woogie.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: So come on.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Hello me, hello.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: You know, when I play an episode like this, this feels like the episode done to me.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I know how to start Remember the next verse.
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: Let's see For that tonight we have no time, we go deal with that tomorrow.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Tonight we going out on lime.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, ma.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: We go do a little, we go do a little, we go do a little back back.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And show them, youngsters, how to whine.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Tonight the black man feeling the party.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: Tonight the black man feeling the jam jam, jam, jam jam.
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: Tonight, the black man feeling to jam, jam, jam, jam.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: You remember the third verse, I remember the third verse.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: What I remember?
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: The third verse.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: I remember the third verse.
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: Remember when we was 14, before we had this family.
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: Anyway, joey playing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Two people short of a day was we.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: But since we start having children To make them strong, we give dance up.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: So tonight, tonight, my darling.
• 35:46
  Speaker 10: We turn it back.
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: The hands of the clock.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Tonight is black man feeling the party Tonight is black man.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: Feeling the jam, jam, jam, jam, jam Tonight is Black man.
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Chest is the boogie woogie.
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Come on, come on, hold on to your mat.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Ba-ba-la-ba-la-ba-dum, ba-la-ba-dum-bum, ba-ba-la-ba-dum-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba-da-ba.
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: I had to play the last verse.
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: Right is on your right.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: When my fans and them tell me, yes, the fine maker is going fine, I just simply have to tell them.
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: Use the driving force behind, use the one that gives me courage, them we only now can celebrate, celebrate tonight the black man's feeling to party.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: Tonight, the black man's feeling to jam, jam, jam, jam, jam.
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: Tonight, the black man's feeling to boogie, woogie, come on, come on, hold on to your man.
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: And now we do, and now we do, and now we do all together how you feeling, I'm feeling good.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Alright good, well, listen.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Normally when I play a song like I'm feeling good, alright good, well, listen.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: Normally when I play a song like that, I'm ready to finish the episode and I feel like I could wrap it up right here, where we're at about a half hour Forty minutes, that's something like it, you know.
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Alright, bye, bye.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: What's on this year's matters?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Anything you had to say Before you head out?
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Thank you to all the viewers.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: Who does watch my father podcast?
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Yes, chris, thank you.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you to all of yours.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: Who does want to follow the podcast, thank you.
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: Thank you for Starbucks.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Thank you for TGI boy, bye.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: What I have to do to anything is free advertisement going on here, looking forward to Friday, looking forward to Friday, looking forward to Friday.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Very much so.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Man, just walk off screen.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: No kind of I don't know what kind of podcast to etiquette this man has.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Wait, before you go, zachary, let me ask you one thing, because we had to talk about Euros and Euros.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Where's your side in Euros?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Le Bleu France, say that again.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Le Bleu France.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: When did you decide?
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: France is your team.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: As soon as you see a team winning a game, that is your new team.
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: Since 2022.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Since 2022,.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: You're back in France.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, how are you now finding this out?
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: So how's France going in the Euros?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: So far?
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: They're going all right.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: They're going all right.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: They're going all right.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: They didn't win the boat games.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: They won one, lost one.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: They won one and lost one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: The mic, it's not a microphone.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: That's what he's talking about.
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: They won one and lost one who did they lose to?
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: No, they won one and drew one.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're expecting Mbappé to come back with a broken nose and so on?
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he was on the bench for the last game so I figured he would play.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: But I'll all right, so you could go ahead, go and organize things.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Let me make sure we be in place to watch france loss in a little while.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Right, but it's the greatest time of year for mankind womankind not so much.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Right, when women is only time to be upset.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Let me organize myself.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Here is woman time a year to be upset with man, because at the end of the day we have cricket to watch whole day and football to watch whole day, and then we have more cricket to watch whole night and more football to watch whole night.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: It's a beautiful time of year, and when that done and that slow down, we straight into the olympics, and when the olympics done, we straight into cpl, and then we back to the nfl season and the premier league and so on.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: It's the greatest year.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I want to tell you something when you want a man to be happy in this life, make sure he's living in a year and in an even number.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Once it's an even number, we're good, because on the 22s we have our World Cup.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: On the 24s we have our Olympics.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: So we always have things to do and things to watch on them, but kind of thing.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: But, uh, again, saluta zachary, and they uh wanted to.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: You know he will always be featured, right, I know people will be um, be asking for him and asking about him and how he going and them kind of things.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So, results coming out on friday and, uh, it's typical for us to talk about common entrance and the it's not common entrance.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: I keep saying that it's se and the it's not common entrance.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I keep saying that it's SEA and the issues that go along with SEA.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: But I always remember something in listening to Salute to Naldo and Jude from the Alternative Perspectives podcast, and I remember Jude saying something that had really changed my perspective on it.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: My theory is that these exams should be abandoned.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Right, I don't think it's very useful.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I think our whole education system needs to change.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: When I watch the uh graduation ceremony over the weekend, they have some things that very, very clear there, right?
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Well, let's assume that if you want to broaden the definition of a skill or talent or success, you could have that in the arts.
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: You could have that in performances, in culture, in academics, in sports, in oration, whatever is called this way, because zachary is a very good speaker that we went through.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I had to tell you this right when he was in preparation for his valedictorian speech.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: One of the first things I was like, zachary, you have this thing to do, and I seen you're practicing.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I know what you're able to write in your speech, what you're doing and your speech, what are you doing?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And he said, daddy, I've written it already.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: And I was like, how are you going to possibly write a speech in a day or two?
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: And he's like, well, chat GPT.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: So he kind of highlighted the things he wanted to say and basically put that in chat GPT and say make this into a valedictorian speech for me and it was his first draft of the speech was really, I mean, we're in a different time, you know, and it's something that I had to get used to, because if I had to write a speech right now, there's no chance of me going to chat GPT to do that.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: I would do it and structure it and so on.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: But I've done this many, many times before and I mean I'm talking for a minimum two hours a week here and probably more hours a week in class, right, so I do my 10,000 hours.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: We're talking is concerned, right, but for somebody who, like him, who has, I mean, a good bit of experience performing, as his songs had shown, and being on stage, and I remember daddy telling me, when I tell him Zachary's valedictorian, he said boy, this man always preparing to perform something.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Zachary's valedictorian, he said boy, this man always preparing to perform something.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Anytime the school has something to do, he's one of the children is turned to to do some kind of performance or speech or something like that, or play or anything like that.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Right, so that is a skill, that is a talent or education or a success on its own.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: So you could find different areas where children might be very strong at that, like you might.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: You might be real good at talking, but you're not so good at math.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Or you're real good at math but you're not so good in sports, you're not so good in PE, all of us know.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: I always remember a man named John Cozier, right?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: Salute to John Cozier For all the people from Newtown.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Boy, you're supposed to remember John Cozier.
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: John Cozier is a little.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Well, it's Cozier.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: You know what cozy I mean in trinidad, right?
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: So I I'll never forget, as a young fellow in newton and I'm talking as early as like second year or standard one or whatever it is we used to go up pe class.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Salute to mr ding chong, right, mr ding chong was one of the best teachers I ever had.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: He was used to.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: He used to coach the cricket team, I believe.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: The football team too, yeah, the football team.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I have pictures of Mr Ding Chong playing football for Newtown, All the PE, anything sports-wise.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Mr Ding Chong used to handle that, and one of the things we would do is PE was in the back of the school.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: For people who remember, right, I see a picture going around Salute to the Newton boys, uh, who trying to do a reunion, and I think the years they say was from 1987 to 1995 or something like that in terms of the boys who went newton several, several years.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Newton, a good school still, you know, I mean, and if, if, if people could remember who went newton, or know people who went newton, if they train on newton.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: The back of the school was where we used to do pe, that is, baba green.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: It had no grass or nothing like that, and one of the things mr ding chong used to carry us through and somebody will call man, remind me about the pe teacher, because before mr ding chong they had a older gentleman, a dark-skinned fella I can't remember his name at all but one of these drills they used to carry us through, they used to hold a hula hoop and you had to jump through the hula hoop.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Right, so you remember as a child, right, you're small and you're agile and so on.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: So you run up and you jump through, like feet first, you duck your feet and your head together and you jump through.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: It was a very simple thing to do.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Now again, I grew up in a village or a community where once I ball bongs, I outside I play basketball, cricket, football, pitch top, wherever whoever was playing, we had to play.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: So I wasn't the best sportsman they had, but I had the little athleticism you know from small.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So 90 percent of the class was running up to that and jumping through that hoop with no problem, but my guy, john cozy, he couldn't do it, no matter how you tried to explain to him do this, do that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: That man used to dive through that thing and I don't know if white men could get white men.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, there was a white man but that man used to get white man all down the front of your body because he just dived through the hoop on the barber green and okay, how you explain to him he can't do it.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: But again, john cosier is a man, one of the brightest men you will ever come across, intelligent from small, well beyond his years.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I remember a youth named Jason Natu, the person that was bright.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: So it's like we almost predispose I don't know if it's genetics or the things we grew up on or the things we choose to watch or the families we grew up with or bring in but we predispose to success or talent or skill in different areas of success or talent or skill in different areas.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: So I always feel like our primary school children's system robs these children because if you're not academically inclined, you could be made to feel like a dunce.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I want to use that word right, because that's how I used to feel when you're small and you're not doing great in school.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Everybody make you feel like you're done, like you can't do it.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: You're watching these math problems are done like you can't do it.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: You're watching these maths problems that people are doing and you can't I mean, understand why it is they're acting.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And salute to my little friend of the family, zachary's friend as well, waiting on results, jaleel, who is an amazing performer.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: One of these days I will bring Jaleel on this podcast as I talk about Zachary performing.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: The few little children I ever see learn and deliver calypso like jg right.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: So I ask myself sometimes what is the use of measuring her by academic standards?
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: It is useless.
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: It does not matter.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: We need to figure out these children talent, measure them by that, teach them the things they need to do in the other areas of life, because whether he's a good performer or not, you're gonna need to know little maths, little english, little socials.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: You need to know those things.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: You need to know to play a little sport.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: You need to defend yourself a little bit.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: And I'll say the same for the child who is in uh, in a ca class, expected to pass for their first choice.
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: The academics are learning your career through life.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: You had to know how to socialize.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: You must play a little sport, defend yourself, have a lot of athleticism.
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: You know what's the point.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: If you can't take your health or you can't play a little music, the work.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: The more rounded adults are the people who typically get by better and faster and have a better time in this life or have a better grasp at success or a better, a better shot at success than the others.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: But going back to what they were saying on the alternative perspective podcast, jude was saying that we, we feel we, we too soft.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Uh, I'm trying to paraphrase right.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: He was saying that these children much more resilient than we think.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: You know, just taking away the exam because they're under pressure and they're nervous.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: He's like being under pressure and being nervous and doing things you don't want to do is part of life, and I started to change my perspective on it a little bit because that is true.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: This life is brutal.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: The reality is that adulthood is a brutal space.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Adulthood, don't care what you're good at, what you practice for, what you're prepared for, adulthood going to throw you into situations, and the best of us had to figure it out and those of us who fall by the wayside, it will.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: You will fall by the wayside.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: This is a brutal space you cannot in in academics, right?
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: The other thing is called macro environmental forces.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: What pestle factors, right?
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Political, environmental, social, technological, economic and legal factors in a country or in in the world or in a space that we cannot control, like I can't control what the economy gonna be.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: No one company could control it then, or no one individual.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: You only feel the earthquake last week, you know.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is an environmental factor that nobody could control.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: You don't know when a earthquake coming.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: So the point of that in academics is that, as a firm, what you're really doing is trying to adjust it to adapt to.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: So, earthquake, shake, something happened.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: What are we going to do now?
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: How are we going to adjust to this?
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: And the companies that have adjusted to environmental factors well over the years or decades, those are the ones who last years and decades, the ones that don't, just don't last, and that is a brutal and real and truthful reality of life as a whole.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: You could be how good at sports as you want, what is going to happen when one of them factors come in?
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I have an example of elaine thompson, hurrah coming, uh, olympic gold medalist, uh, underdog for a long time, and then o Olympic gold medalist, I want to say, in the 100 and 200.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: And now, like a month before, not even a month before, the Olympics and it's being reported that she suffered injury and she's not well.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: Apparently she's not going to run the 200, but she will run the 100.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how that's working.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: And I've seen the Jamaican fans blaming her husband she fired her coach management everybody and her husband.
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: She fire her coach management everybody and her husband is make all the decisions for her, but they're not too pleased about that, you know.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: So the truth is what happens to you if you don't learn from small that, no matter what your talent is or what your success route is, if that is taken away from you or if things change suddenly, or if that not important, or that not making money, how are you going to adjust?
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: So maybe there's good value in the pressure that se puts on children and the fact that some children don't do well and some do well and all those things, because I I don't know if you all would agree, but is sometimes the things that I didn't do well or didn't do good at is the things where I learned the most valuable lessons in life.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: So maybe, maybe it's a useless thought to take away all those things.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Like I may get five passes when I do cxc.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: I had to do over that.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I do a levels.
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: Remember you said to do gp and three other things.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: I only pass gp and one other thing.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: I'd repeat that too.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: And then I get to ue and I figure out some things and you know what I mean.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: And I failed course like hell in UE.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I failed courses at master's level too, but I may have graduated with no everybody around me, right?
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: All the people around me graduate with honors, both at bachelor's level and at master's level.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: I think bachelor's I graduated upper second.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: But several of the partners and friends I had in UE graduated first class honors and I had a group salute to men like Edmundo and Juan.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: Them men graduated.
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what the name of first class honors is.
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: I think it's distinction in masters.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Me know them fellas had distinction.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: It's in graduation.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: I get to farewell.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Them fellas had distinction and everything Me barely passed the courses on them that they put out there for me.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: But again, we wait here for Friday.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: And again, best wishes, best of luck, all the success to all the children who did the SEA exam.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: I think the success comes from doing the exam itself.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: And whatever path you end up on Remember, nobody gonna ask you about that.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Whatever path you have you find yourself on post, come on post seo results is your part and that's your part to success, you know?
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, uh, talking about part of success, right, let me get into some news.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: This is this.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: This might be one of the first episodes in a long time where it take an hour to get into news, right, and the truth is, I also have a whole set of songs to play about talking, so I know how how they fit in and how we're doing this, but we're gonna, we're gonna make it happen in terms of party success, one of the greatest things I see in a long while.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, given this whole crime situation in in trinidad and tobago, and you know, I I like to talk about the one percentedness and I know people make joke about it and thing right, but it's something that I want us to take seriously as people who listen into this and so on.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I something I feel passionately about.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I don't see why we have to look at one group of people or one race of people and label them one percent, as if we destined to be 99.
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: I don't believe in any of that at all.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I think we could be whatever we want to be.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: I was looking at a youtube video of a fellow on financial um.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: He's like a financial blogger.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: You have a good youtube page, you know.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: It would be great if one day I could have all these things prepared before I come here, but today is not that day, right, let me?
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: Let me just establish that it didn't happen today, but he does a great job breaking down little financial concepts and what it takes to be rich and how much money it takes for you to be wealthy, and so on.
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I like the way he brings it across.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Older, older white fella, right, but very, very simple.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: One of his simple concepts is that it takes forever for you to be able to build up your first hundred thousand in savings, but after the first hundred thousand, because I compound interest, you will get a million much faster than you get a hundred thousand.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Right, I'll find it I want while I play in one of these songs.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I will look for it and I'll share the name with you so you could hear what you had to say, because I'm not doing a good job at putting across what he says, but I was looking at a video just before I started recording that spoke about what is the seven things about, or personality traits that will let me know that you are going to be rich.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And you know what was the first one he put out there?
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: The first one he put out there was belief.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: Like you see yourself as wealthy or you feel like it's for you, they have no reason why you should see that as something for one group and not for the next group.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: So forgive me, but I will continue my one percent talk.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: But the one percent talk, I'm a question in myself this week because I see whole shootouts in glencoe.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: What going on isn't the point of moving to places like glencoe did I just clap the shootout?
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Is the point of moving to places in glencoe not to avoid, you know?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: I mean you're trying to, or the perception is that if you're living in a certain part of trinidad you're safe.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: If I go here and I have no issue with these places, no crime in them, places and so on, I think to myself that that is what it's about.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: That is what we're trying to accomplish, but clearly not Whole shootout in Glencoe and they're saying that.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: These are things I don't like to talk too much about, but they're saying it's reprisal for another killing.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: That again happens in Christopher's gas station, one of the places that I like to go a lot.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: I like to be there.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: It's a nice vibe just being there, right, and it tells you a lot about the state of the country.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: But against the backdrop of all that, the commissioner of police and her work is always coming into question.
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: But when I tell you the route to success is one that wherever they put you, you could find success in it.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: Right, it's no joke because Shane Superville in the Guardian writes an article here.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: It says former acting commissioner of police is now Earl's consultant.
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: So I started studying myself.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: Now, well, if you get in a consultation right, like I, like the guy who's talking YouTube, because he has a he runs a radio controlled vehicles company, so they build like flying planes, flying planes, radio controlled planes, or helicopters or boats or things like that, from what I could deduce, right, so he run in a successful company.
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: He seemed, he seemed to have you know, he seemed to be doing well, he seemed to be a wealthier person and what the things that he's saying makes a lot of sense to me when I when I look at at his message and so on, right, all right, I find I find the youtube page here.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: His name is Mark Tilbury, so look for him, right?
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Mark Tilbury is T-I-L-B-U-R-Y, so he talks about his background, how he gets financial success, what he invests in.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: So that seems to me to be somebody credible.
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: So I follow him and I want to hear more from him and learn more from him.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: So I would think that, in a country where crime is one of the biggest issues and you are the commissioner of of police, who responsible at least for the body that responds to crime, your first responders to crime, right, that if you're gonna get a consultant, you ought to be consulting somebody who, real good, it had to be the mark tilbury of crime that you go into, right?
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: So I started studying.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: But, ex-commissioner, who could it be?
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: Which commissioner had the success rate to consult with the current commissioner on how to deal with these issues that we have in, or to do what I said?
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: But borrows, like he come back.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: May have borrows come back.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Is it snags?
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: Who could it be?
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: And then I started saying well, I wonder if gary get himself back inside, because gary has presented himself every other week.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: He's here, gary, present himself to the unc or present himself to the pnm or present yourself to whatever form of rejection he guaranteed to get.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: Uh, and of course he's running for all 41 sitting elections, so you know that coming as well.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: But let me hear what shane superville had to say.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: Former acting commissioner of police stephen williams.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: Only must even williams.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Stephen williams is now a consultant to the commissioner of police, ula hay Hayward Christopher, for $800 an hour.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: How much do I get for lecturing?
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can call these schools and let me do some quick math here.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Let me see I had to negotiate better, you know, do I have?
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: Am I getting $800 an hour to lecture?
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: If I put in my lecturing amount here?
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: That's about it Divided by two hours a week.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: It divided by two hours a week, divided by 10 weeks.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not getting 800.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: I'm quite short, you know.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe I need to solve bigger problem if I can lecture in criminology.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: He is being.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: He's being paid based on the hours of service rendered.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: According to documents received by guardian media, williams provided 53 hours of consultancy service in one month and 67 in another month.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: Let me see if I could work this out, because me ain't so good with the math myself 53 multiplied by 800 would mean that he collected an amount of $42,400 in one month.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: See what I'm telling you about success.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: If you do this, if you fail to try, try and try again.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: How do you think this goes?
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: If at first you fail to succeed, try and try again.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: How do you think this is going If at first you fail to succeed?
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: Try and try and try again, because this man, this man is making more money as a consultant, consulting in a job that I don't know if he had the best rating in, but the job is paying less than $40,000 a month.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: From the last thing I checked, right In the other month, he consulted 67 hours at $800 an hour, for $53,600 a month for that month.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: I like it a lot.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: No, I just want to break this down even further for you.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Right in the higher of the two months is 67 hours, where he make the 53,000, something.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: If you were to count 20 working days in a month right, the average month of five days a week you're working on it.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: Or 20 working days four weeks in a month, right, that would mean that he worked a whopping three and a half hours per day for the month.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Three and a half hours per day for the month, right.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: And if you want to count eight or working days, let me break this down and make some sense of this thing.
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: If you want to say a working day is eight hours, he let me see eight hours and he'd work three and a half hours a day.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: If you want to break it into working days, he worked for about half the month that he earned the 67 000.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: If he had worked consecutively, then let me just say you can't get up every three and a half hours.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: If you just work out your time, he'd have worked for about two weeks for the month and collect about 53 000, leaving two more weeks for him to earn more money.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: That is one percentedness.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: If you ask me, if anything that mark tilbury says true, mark tilbury say take your first hundred thousand dollars, put it in a uh, mixed basket of stocks, right, or in next fund, which will earn about seven percent.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: It reported as about six percent in trend.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: That and he was saying in about six years you would double, or five years you could double your money in the next three and a half, you would double it again using compound interest and so on.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Right, so you can't be that.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: If he was to take that 53 000 work for two months, take the hundred and put it aside, or if you want to count a hundred hundred thousand in us, he could just work for work for a year.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: What are the?
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: So now, if you work for a year, what are the 700 000 us?
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: And he good to go.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: It can't be this.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: Those earnings were for june and for september.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: He told guardian media last week that he was a consultant and not an advisor.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: The difference between both roles are significant.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: In december 2013, williams rubbish claims on social media that he was hired as williams at, as here with christopher's advisor.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: I have been hired by the commissioner as an advisor and that's as simple as it is, williams told media at the time.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: Last week, guardian Media approached Williams with the documentary evidence of him being paid by the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: He admitted that he's providing consultancy services for the commissioner.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: He said advisor anything different to that services on particular matters.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: In other words, I'm not getting into what matters there and I've been paid by virtue of the hours given, service given in service for those consultancy services.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: He did not elaborate on the nature of the consultancy but he described as police related matters.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Once you describe it as that, I can't really ask you no more questions.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Police related matters, private right.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: He pointed out that while he was, while he has offered services of lectures and training workshops for different branches of the branches of the trinidad and tobago police service since his retirement, this was the first time he was sought after for consultancy services.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: In addition, he said he had provided other lectures and seminars free of charge for her with christopher and her predecessor, m McDonald, jacob.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: And while Jacob's predecessor, gary Griffith, did not directly approach him, william said he was contacted by Griffith subordinates during his 10 years commissioner of police.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: During commissioner Griffith's term of office many of his staff would have contacted me for guidance and advice on numerous matters, which I gave without making a fuss.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't say well, commissioner Gary Griffith said this or that about williams.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: It is about trying to help trinidad and tobago and the police service and anything I could do in that context I'll do.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: I appreciate his help.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: I think his help I mean I say no joke in here right, because he wasn't the most popular commissioner he had, but the truth is, who was?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: So if you could go back and provide consultancy services, even if it's to help a sitting commissioner understand the way the forces work or the services work and those things with your experience, then why not?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: You know, you see people like Ken Gordon and them as examples of people who work in corporations and then right now their life is about consulting, being on several boards and so on.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: That's that's.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: That's basically what they do.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Uh well, garcia, ken Gordon, jason, julian is a long one, a young one coming up like that.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Them, fellas and them spend a lot of time in industry and, no matter what you say about their tenure, their success levels, where they were, the experience is something that that they could be paid for.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: So I looking forward to that myself.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: You know Me, I don't know where exactly I would consult on, but looking at everything I could work on and get as much information as I could get to, the consultation thing would be my retirement work.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: If Williams could consult with the commissioner, who is I, but clearly the commissioner didn't take too much advice from Williams on this issue, because a businessman from Pinal has been given the green light to sue Police Commissioner Earl Howard Christopher over her delay in deciding his application for a firearm user license.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: This is from Derek Achong and he said Guardian right.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: It says on Monday, high Court Judge Margaret Mohamed granted leave to the businessman, whose name was withheld due to personal and safety concerns raised by his lawyers, to pursue a judicial review lawsuit over the delay In his court filings obtained by Guardian Media.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: The businessman's lawyers, keron Ramkalawan, shalini Sankar and Nisa Gunness, claimed that he made his application for the FUL in January 2019.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: He allegedly sought to follow up on the progress of his application several times before he was informed that his file could not be located in October 2020.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: As they head into two years with the application, they know right.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: Two months later, he reapplied on advice given by officers assigned to the Firearms Permit Unit.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: They claimed that in February 2021, the TTP has conducted an investigation in relation to his application with an officer visiting the client's businesses and properties.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: The intended applicant was notified by said investigator that he had no objection to him being granted a provisional license and so had recommended.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: They claim that subsequently.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: They claim that he subsequently sought another update and was told that the file was awaiting a decision from the police commissioner.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: After that he's received no response.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: The businessman made an application under the Freedom of Information Act.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: There has been no response to the Freedom of Information Act request to date.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: Gunness said, while the businessman's lawyer accepted that under the Firearms Act there's no time limit prescribed for the commissioner of police to render a decision, it should be done without unreasonable delay based on the provisions of the Interpretation of Judicial Acts, review or Review Acts.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Delay, where it arises, does not accord with good administration and is justifiably recognized as legitimate grounds to warrant judicial review.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Gunner said Administrative decisions by administrative bodies directly impact upon the rights of citizens and must therefore be exercised in a way that is fair, just and proportionate.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: I think there's an important case for all of us to follow right, and it speaks to not just the firearm user license application.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: It speaks to the way the government, who takes the government, is just a body that we hold responsible for governance and they are allowed to pool our collective tax dollars that we pay and distribute resources right.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: Economics has some theories about how our country is run or how our government, how our economy is run right and they used how our economy is run right and they used to talk about a free market economy where demand and supply is determined who gets it.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: In a free market economy there will not be any license on things like guns.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: They will typically be demand and supply.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: If you could afford to pay for a gun and somebody wants the supply that has a business, you go, you buy it from them and you keep it.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: So you will see the US operating more like a free market right when it's basically demand and supply.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: The idea is that the government does not get involved.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: Of course, the US is not a pure free market economy.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: They have several ways that the government gets involved in day-to-day activities, but generally speaking it's run by demand and supply.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Over there, command economy is one where, like um, north korea, guess who is decide who get resources in north korea.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: If you had to say, in in a free market, demand and supplies determine how resources are distributed.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: Who gets what is determined by who could pay for what right in In a command economy, guess who determines who gets what the garment, so what you name who in charge of North Korea, who in charge of Russia, who in charge of Cuba.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: These countries, they have a sovereign leader, and the sovereign leader determines how resources are distributed in the country.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, a mixed economy is a mix between the free market and the command economy.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: So we live in a mixed economy where there are some things that they leave up to demand and supply.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: So if you want to buy something, you're pretty much free to buy and sell whatever you want, but with some limits.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: And the limits come in where the government puts sanctions, licenses.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: All those different things in place is really just government controlling what we can and cannot do, what we can and cannot use or we could drink, how much, we could smoke, where we could drive, or we could use a gun and protect yourself.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: All those things are the government.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: So, while they have the free hand of the market operating, the government also intervenes to provide what you call public and merit goods.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: Right, public goods is a problem because no business don't like to invest in public goods because I can't charge you.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: It's goods that everybody could use and I don't have any way of charging people for it.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: So it's like streetlights that's pretty much a public good.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: Anybody, unless I could determine who drives on that road, road, everybody could be able to use the street light so nobody wants to invest with me and put up my money and say, well, all right, let me put some street lights and insult you know.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, like, put on some street lights and see if you can make some money.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody investing in that right.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: So the government is getting involved to provide those things.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: So if you notice driving interstate in these us, if you drive, for instance, from, uh, from florida, and you start to head north through the carolinas and so on, you'll notice that when you're on interstate roads it dark like hell.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: They don't really nobody, no taxpayer want their dollars going into no public good that nobody not living there could enjoy.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: They would rather put their money into a way called merit goods.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: Where it's not, it's not a car, charge people for it.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: It's just that society is better if those things are provided.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: So you see, like, like, providing an education or some basic health care, um, supplementing health care, subsidizing it so that people don't have to pay for health care, providing some level of free education, even if it's for just the people who can afford it, all those would be considered merit goods.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: But in our economy government pays a lot, so we pay a lot of taxes to enjoy both public and merit goods.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: Right, that's what we agree on.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: And when I say we agree, we seem to be comfortable in a mixed economy.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: I would say that we seem to be comfortable in a mixed economy.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I would say that we seem to be comfortable in a mixed economy that lean in a little bit more towards command, where the government have a huge say in what we can and cannot do and who gets what and who works where and when elections call.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: The government have a lot of say over those things here, right.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: So in this economy and I'm using the FUL license and the lawsuit that's going on now as something that we should all pay attention to, because there's this looseness that goes into government services that we seem to not be bothered by so I could apply for FUL and the process itself has no timeline.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: That's not right.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: If it is legally, I can can own a firearm.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: The government say the rules under which I could have a firearm, right, I had to be mentally and physically stable and good enough and so on, like muti x.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: Uh, my wife had to sign off on that to make sure she ain't got some shots.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean things like that my household had to be a certain level where I could hold this thing and maintain it.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: I'd be doing a business or something that have enough cash to to to uh to warrant the need for protection or protecting myself.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I'd have land or whatever it's livestock, and so on.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: If the law outlines what I, what can be done for me to get a firearm.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: I'm not understanding why we don't put a timeline to it.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: It seems as though we write laws and we write policies and rules and things in this country and we write the loopholes right into it.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: We like to.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: We don't like to tighten it up, we like to say you apply for it and within a year you have to have it.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: The truth is that administratively it could become a burden and it take more than a year, but certainly deadline is somewhat of a like a stake in the sand.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: So at least we know what we're working towards.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: So if it go over the time, I could say well, all right, I could understand if it go over a month, two months even.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: But I can't understand where they have no timeline whatsoever.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: It's like whatever, whenever you get, you get if you ain't getting it.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: So whatever you were trying to protect.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: You could potentially continue to lose this thing until you get your, until the people get the act in order, and when they could get to your application.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: Remember that one of them things you're trying to protect is your family, right, so you could lose that thing based on where you're going.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: You could take all your money and go and live in glenco.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: You're going to live in only one person, you.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 2: You could go, be in a gated community, nothing, nothing.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: It have no safe zone here, because even if you're living in the most gated of the gated and you're passing Christopher's to get some gas on your way home, you could be in the midst of a shootout.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: You could be followed home and robbed, all these different things you see in gate, seeing gate or somebody safe.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: I remember reading about something in sinclair place.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: I would love to be able to buy a house in sinclair and live the one of my dreams and people going in there next to people tie up and shoot out in the yard and there's no way.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: So if you, if you the way these policies set up, why they're not tight?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: Why can't it tell me that when I apply, I must get a response by two weeks.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: Within six weeks you'll get this.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: Within 10 weeks you are the provisional.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Within a year you're a license.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: What is the purpose?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Forget the gun thing.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: Right, because not everybody interested in that.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: When I build a house, I don't go by a building inspector I talk about this story here many times.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: I don't go by a building inspector who come in here to inspect to see if I do these things.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: I'm port and process right, because if I build a slipshot structure, it could affect my neighbors, it could affect everybody, it could be life and limb for me and my family and so on.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: And if I don't know nothing about building structure, a contractor could do that for me.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: When I pay for a good structure and I get something slipshot, things that are tumbled on me when earthquake shake.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: Or my partner say, when there was seismic event.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean sometime that'll live and learn.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Whenever seismic event, my building fall down on me.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: No, a building inspector would be an important thing.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: So that the government again a merit good.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: Right, we're paying tax for this.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: This is not.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: This is a merit good.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: The government sends somebody in every corporation or every whatever district is called it to come.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: Now, who I would assume is a civil engineer who have some way of verifying good.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Well, at least you follow your rules here.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: You build what you say.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: You're going to build this structurally song this kind of fast.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: No, this lintel good.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Whatever the hell they look at when they do them things.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: The ring beam strong, the foundation good, the column, whatever the hell they look at, right, right, that's a good thing for us.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: I cool paying taxes towards things like those.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: But again, the system's so loose the system, so there's no specific time outline that says the billing inspector how to reach by you within x amount of days, and by x amount of days you should have a completion certificate.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: So I find myself in a vortex of bridging interests.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Boy, let's not six.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: It was one of the most difficult financial periods I ever lived through.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I was six months worth of bridging interests.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I paid Almost like as soon as my salary come, the whole thing going in bridging interests because the corporation has some kind of issue that nobody can explain to me why it happening, and I caught up in some kind of battle between the corporation and Buddha and I think it was the mayor and I caught up in some kind of battle between the corporation and buddha and I think was the mayor.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: So I caught up with them now in some kind of racket that they're running or the not they're running, sorry, some kind of racket that happening within the borough between them and the um, the contractors in the area.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: They suspect something going on so they halt on their own accord all completion certificate and, as an innocent citizen who have nothing to do me, never bribe nobody to build no house or bribe no inspector to look at nothing and give me nothing faster.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: No valuator, no, nothing.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: I doing what, wherever these sheets say I following that and I in this vortex of paying bridging finance interest.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: So whenever I get paid my, all my money going out and in this um, in this, in this interest, that not benefiting me in any way, before I could get my completion certificate to start my mortgage.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: So it's things like these, like the society seem to be okay with these loose things.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: Like you could print some of the biggest and some of the biggest businessmen and some of the biggest contributors to the tax coffers in the country, as well as the philanthropic work, their employer and hire lots of people.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: They've done so much for culture, for entertainment.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: You could just print their name in the papers and say them fellas, win, we keep garnishing their account and them kind of things, but they wouldn't print and ask them.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Same about them, same two men.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: If they submit a vat, uh refund form, how long it taking them to get the money?
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: You cannot get it right.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, if you're submitting for a vat refund, you're not getting it.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know how long it takes to do a battery fund and those types of things.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: You submit your personal income tax.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: There's no deadline on.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: The return is whenever you get.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: So the society seem to have uh, to have accepted this these loose type of arrangements where it's like if we get through, we get through, and when it come, it come and so it's good that they have.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: You have at least one person who willing to go the legal route or take, take, take some sort of control or request or require or demand some answers from the powers.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: That be not just for the sake or the selfish nature of their own application, but for us to look at the process overall so that we could see why, culturally, we accept that is whenever.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Again, I live in Jamaica and I could tell you some of these things is not whenever, but a lot of these processes are faster.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: They have specific timelines.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: Some people who live in here, who from here and listening, in the US and in Germany places where time is important, canada in London and so on you all could tell me, like, if the processes in those countries just have no end date, no real timeline, it's just like you apply for this and it's whenever.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: To me I would, I would hazard, I guess, that in those societies, if it's not instant and they will tell you within 24 hours, within 48 hours, within two weeks, within, it's just.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: It's just like and and we have a, we have a ease with which we we telling people, yeah, that would take like three months.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: Right, you're going to cooperation for something.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: Now you tell me, yeah, that's like 68 weeks to get documented.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Uh, maybe, maybe some of this are personalizing right within the next month or so.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: I'll tell only why I personalizing some of this girl going through a process here where I had to get plenty government document and it bothered me, right.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: But let me move on to food prices.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: I see you not getting any guardian from geisha coulissa alonso at.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: Is it marlene?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: That's avalon.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: That's marlene, that's this.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: Is marlene economist at uh says food and cable driving inflation hike.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: So we were talking about inflation a few weeks ago.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: They say higher prices for higher prices for food and more money for cable bills contributed to the increase in the inflation rate from 0.5 percent to 0.9 percent in may, says economist dr marley nuts.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: Now, I was talking about this in class last week.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: Right, I was asking the class if they're feeling like the inflation rate's only moving from 0.5 to 0.9 or if it's so slow the prices of of food and them kind of things going up.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: They usually define inflation as the persistent rise in the average price of a basket of goods that causes the internal value of your dollar to fall or to be eroded, right?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: So, in simple terms, if, like, we use these terms inflation and I'll never be sure if people or I kind of assume everybody knows what is inflation, but maybe we should break it down, we're done here already, right, the thing with inflation is like they take a basket of goods they would do, they would take a basic bath like rice flour, this, that, that, right, and they will set that as a baseline and set that as zero food.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: So this, this, baskets are goods that, uh, everybody should be buying on a normal basis to live regular life.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: That baskets are.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Goods cost a hundred dollars.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: Let's see if in our whole basket of goods costing a hundred dollars today and then next year they measure it again and cost 150 dollars, they will mark inflation at 50 percent.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: Right, they're gonna buy 50 percent.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: So what they do is they measure that year on year or period by period, so you could see where inflation is.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: The reason inflation is a critical economic indicator is because if my salary is a hundred dollars, right, and I buy my rice and my flour and oil and my sugar for a hundred dollars and then next year the the the same basket of goods go up to 150 dollars, I had to make some decisions now because my hundred dollars can no longer buy that.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: So the last part of the definition is it causes the internal value of your dollar to be eroded, so meaning I'm making the same hundred and now I cannot buy the same amount of good.
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: So they have pressure on me now to eat less or to work more to be able to eat the same, which human beings don't like.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: We don't like cutbacks in our lifestyle, right?
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: So what's more likely to happen is I'll find a next way to make that 50 rather than to say, all right, I could only eat one totally food we see before, especially for the poorest people in any country.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Because if you already only have the basics, that mean you probably don't have much money to save.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: You're probably not enjoying a whole set of lifestyle things, because for me and you only one percenters who listen in here, you have several things that the poorest people in the country wouldn't have.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: You have some savings, you have a set of insurance and everything for your health.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: You also have several lifestyle things that you do.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: So if the price God forbid go up by 50% or that costs you to run a lifestyle, you could cut back on the Benzes.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: Right, you could cut back on the Benzes and the Lime and the Frenzes.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: You have a lot of fat built into that, right, less trips and all these different things, but again, for the poorest class of society.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: So inflation is something that will always be measured and talked about, because if the price of the basic goods going up, it pushes up the price of everything else in the country, meaning your salary could buy less and less and less over time and it's an issue.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: So you're going to cross the trade unions to hack up and then they will push up your salary.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: But it does not matter, because when your salary go up from the 100 to the 150 now it puts more pressure on the prices of them same baskets of goods, because it's the same amount of goods that have any country that is more money now chasing.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: So now the goods going up to 250 and you actually get increase in your salary, but you end up worse off, right?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: So, going back to the article it says, on monday the cso announced that in may that may 2024 inflation rate, which measures the percentage or change in all items index in the all items index for the month of may 2024 over may 2023, was 0.9.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: This represented an increase in 0.5% which was recorded for the previous period, april 2023 to April 2024.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: This is a month-on-month increase.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: This is much more felt than I would have thought.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: I was thinking of this as a year-on-year increase, which is a very small increase 0.5% but if this is month-on-month it's significant, right Noting?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: The CSO specified some categories where there were upward trends between may 2023 and 2024.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: At soul guardian media, for example, the cso says that the average cost of communications increased by eight and a half percent, healthcare, seven and seven, point nine.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: And food and non-alcohol non-alcoholic beverages increased by 3.1.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: All of these categories will affect the average citizens through things like higher cable bills, higher food costs of medicines, of course, higher costs associated with buying food, either buying ingredients to cook or buying prepared food.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Now, one of the things I notice in right, as I um make my own budgetary adjustments right, the there used to be a time where you would say, all right, I'm buying too much food.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: If I could cut back on the amount of food I'm buying, that would save me some money on these things.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: Right, can I ask you all if you all find that to be the same, or to be truthful or what I'm not sure it feels these days as if, as if it's the same when you're buying food outside versus buying groceries, because when I see I do a month in review, right?
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: So look to Nick Dean and the budget.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Nick Dean offers a service where he could help you to set a budget and then help you to do the variance analysis at the end of the month.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: Literally, he will help you come up with, uh, variance analysis at the end of the month.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: Literally, he will help you come up with what you think you're spending on food and where you're spending on, on, on on liming and your mortgage, and you say that you could go through all of it with him and then you could send him all your statements on it for a month.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: You just send him all the statements for june and he will sit down and work through categorizing every single expense you have like.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: For instance, when I went through that process with him, he even itemized bank charges which I didn't realize was so high.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I probably go and tell people I have account in every bank, but I didn't realize some of them bank accounts, like the married accounts, you know the married accounts where you open accounts with your wife for people to put money for you when you're getting married and so on.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: The fees on the married accounts is crazy, like why, why, why would the fees be so high for to maintain our account that we don't use at all?
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: So he categorizes all these things.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: So then he could tell you well, all right, you said you're going to spend a grand on entertainment this month, but you spend a grand on popcorn alone.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: You get popcorn and chansea, a thousand.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: And then you went back and then I see, I see any stink and dirty that cost the next thousand, you understand.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: And you say hair and nails and them thing is 300 a month, but you do your hair and nails to go puppy for 675.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: So he breaking it down for your nice, which really, really helpful, because then you start to see how you adjust.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: But one of the things I notice is that we have a grocery bill and a price smart bill.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: I said can't be true, we alone live in here.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: What is happening?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: So if I was to just stop cooking, just don't bother, just don't bother, don't bother to buy no food, don't bother to put no food in the fridge and just buy, just say I am bothering with and and buy fast food alone or food outside, will the bills equate?
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 2: A partner mine was telling me this week like we have this weird shame around not having no food in your fridge or in your cupboard, or a weird shame around we don't really cook and we just buy food every day.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: Maybe there might be a way to balance all the budget if you just choose to do one rather than doing both all the time.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: Like you have a food, a fridge full of food and a cupboards full of food but you're feeling for something nice.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, I feel I feel like I need something nice today, especially on a month, and when you see month and come, I just always feel like I could eat something nice.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: That food drop go bring.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: But I look back at my food drop bill and all those things.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: You've seen it and I think she's spot on as well, but she had the data to back it up, right.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: But one of the things that she's spot on with is the, the cost of communication like this, this, this, this cable cost, cable and internet and phone that is selling us.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm starting to realize this.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Starting to pick up a chunk of my budget on a monthly basis is like, because it's not just the phone bill or the or the or the um internet which you have to have is a subscription for this, this subscription for here.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: You want to have a patreon, so you have netflix by this one, the little boy here, roblox, by this playstation taking out 100 us or something.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: You know, these little things that for for cable, internet and entertainment and so on, they, they're starting to, they're starting to do a little creeping dance that we, we had to be careful of.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: But uh, inflation again is something that you're probably going to hear a lot more about over the next year as we, as we get closer and closer to election, because it's one of those things that could be a swing at least by us.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: You know when, when it's trump and them in fellowships talk about abortion rights and all these different types of issues, societal issues because them don't have enough money already, but we here still talk about things like the inflation rate, the unemployment rate, how much road get paved and how much road fix and so on, as as key indicators for what is good governance.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: So you'll hear more about the inflation rate over time.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: Now I did promise you all that in this episode I was going to play some song about talk, but of course I talk too much and I forget to play them, so let me play one now.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: All this dedicated to the great orator Zachary Shepard-Babb.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: People say my girl is ugly.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: They don't know what is ugly.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 3: I know my girl is pretty Cause I know what is pretty.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: I said ugly is skin deep and pretty is skin deep.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 3: I say they look on the outside so they don't know the inside.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: I said ugly is skin deep and pretty is skin deep.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: I say they look on the outside so they don't know the inside, so they don't know.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 3: My baby is a horrible lady and she is my Cinderella and I love her.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 3: So yo yo yo, she is my Cinderella.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 3: I want the world to know I love the girl and the girl love me.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: We don't care what nobody say what they say.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: They say what they say, they say what they say.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 3: They say what they say.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 3: They say Because people just talk, because they could talk.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people just talk For a good old talk.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: I see them out holding on the roads, jump out.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 3: Some of them want luck for them out.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 3: They talk down the road and they go down the bend, some of them just looking for friends.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: But they're telling you Talks, cheap Talks, cheap Talks, cheap Talks, cheap, what they say.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 3: They say Thank you.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: People say my girl ain't pretty.
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: They don't know what is pretty.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: I know my girl is pretty Because I know what is pretty.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: Hear me.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 3: I say pretty, hear me.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 3: I say Pretty is kindness.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: I said pretty is sweetness and pretty is loving.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 3: I said pretty is caring.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: So they told me my baby Is a hell of a lady and she is my Cinderella and I love her.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: So she is my Cinderella, I and I love her.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, yeah, she is my Cinderella.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 3: I want the girls to know I love my girl and my girl love me.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: We don't care what nobody say.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: Boy, what they say, they talk cheap.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: What they say, they talk cheap.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: What they say they talk cheap.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 6: What they say they talk cheap, yeah, yeah, talk cheap.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, talk cheap.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, talk cheap.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: As we untalk, I want to salute some podcasters.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: I find our next podcast here called Punch Time 2022.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: The men say we celebrate the punchline Dope lyrics matter and they go through several interviews with artists of all different genres and so on and talk about the punch lines and all the different things that, uh, how they come up with words in the in the line and what, how the words land and all them kind of things.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: Uh, unique, unique style, unique podcast.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 2: I wish people on the instagram page used to put a little more about itself, like exactly who's in it and those things.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 2: But I did see a, an episode here with young rod, right, son of the great, son of the great david rudder, and basically the host telling young rod that david rudder had a um, a punch line against jay-z or it was a diss track when he say jay-z, come to trinidad and throw money for people and them kind of thing.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: I think was that song, the, the, the, the chance of a madman was the chance of a madman.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: Am I, am I right about that?
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: But it was a unique take on it.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I never hear this.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this will use to be discussing, but I never hear people say uh, rather had a diss track against Jay-Z because he say American rapper, they call Jay-Z, until you hear a madman ball as he lie here on the wall.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: I hope I didn't remix two different songs there, right?
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Like how the West Indies anthem remix Rally Wrong the West Indies and High Praise, right.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: But salute to the people who are doing the Punch Time podcast, and I have a next podcast to tell you about too.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: I've seen it on week one and it's two people who are following at Bayer and I hope that they continue it and we get some more insight into their life, because they seem to be two very, very interesting people from everything I could see.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: But before I get into that, I had to play the talk song that my boy requests himself, right?
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: Yo, Teddy, say what you want to say.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: Ooh, something on my chest.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: I want to express it.
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 7: Let me ask you a question Can I say what I want to say?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 7: I want to say what I want to say.
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: Can I say what I want to say?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 7: I really want to say it.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 7: People don't know you, but they won't judge you.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: They talking bout ya must be something about you Smiling your face and talking you bad and making up things that fall from the fire.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 7: While you're talking and talking and talking about me, I'll be pressing on, pressing on doing my thing, far from the facts.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 7: Why you talking and talking and talking about me, talking about me?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: I be pressing on, pressing on doing my thing.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 7: I telling you, please don't judge me.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 7: God don't put you to watch me.
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 7: He don't like ugly, so tell them keep their eyes off me, off of me, off of me, off me, off of me, off of me.
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 7: Keep on talking.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 7: You got ballet, ballet, ballet.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 7: Keep on talking.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 7: You got ballet, ballet, ballet, ballet, ballet, ballet.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 7: Keep on talking.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 7: You think it easy.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 7: Say bad mind and envy.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 7: Take a walk in my shoes, then let me hear you.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 7: They play insane.
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 7: Talking you.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 7: Bad Talk will bring talk Far from the facts.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 7: While you're talking and talking and talking about me.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 7: I'll be pressing on, pressing on doing my thing.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 7: I'm telling you, please don't judge me.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 7: God don't put you to watch me.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 7: He don't like me.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 7: So tell them keep their eyes on me, off of me, off me.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 7: I don't like it.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 7: Can I say what I want to say?
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 7: I wanna say what I want to say.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 7: Can I say what I want to say?
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 7: I really wanna say it.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 7: At the back of your mind, you want to say this shit sometimes.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 7: Let me say what I want to say.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: I really wanna say it.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 7: I'm begging you, please don't judge me.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 7: God will put you to watch me.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 7: He don't like ugly.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 7: So tell them keep your eyes off me, off of me.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 7: Off of me, off of me, keep on talking.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: Direct Request from Zachary right, the man said that he favorite talking song.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: So the name of this podcast is Preparation.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you, boy, hold me by preparation.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: If only I was prepared from time to time, life would go better, you know.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: But this is by Janelle Fronten and her husband.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: Sorry to say it like that, but for some reason I don't know this brother name at all.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: I know this man from around from ever, since I don't know his man name at all, but Janelle Fronten.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: The name of the podcast is Reality Needs Checking.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: So check it out there on episode one and it's just basically a husband and wife talking.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: And what makes them interesting is Janelle Fronting herself.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: I know he's a music producer, if I'm not mistaken, a songwriter also, Just like I know him as a creative guy.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: I never really hear him talk before Now.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: He's a quiet kind of fellow from around the way and she is a author several things.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 2: She always doing something.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: I believe she went and did her or is in pursuit of her phd.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: Now, if I'm not, if I am, if I'm not right, they're living in new zealand and she's pursuing her phd.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 2: So it's people who are interesting to me, like they have a very interesting life.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 2: She documents a lot as a writer about how she met her husband, the journey she's beyond she's been on her son, her pursuits and so on.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: I like people like that in general, so I think it is is welcome and is interesting for me when people like that start podcasts who open up more about their lives.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: So even as I talk about success earlier in this episode and how many different shapes and forms and colors it could take learning from people like that or seeing stories like those, I feel like it's more.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 2: We need to do more of it wherever those successes lie, because we're going to mbas, we're gonna do mbas, we're gonna do creative degrees, we're gonna do all these different things and we're gonna learn.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: One of my biggest difficulties was english literature.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: I couldn't understand all them sort of where, forth and here, forth and through forth with shakespeare and them.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: I couldn't really I couldn't understand it and they are done.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: I don't know what them people say.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean, why not take me through some of the metaphors and the, the things where we had great calypsonians, great playwrights, what they would have done?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: I saw something at the talking about janelle and they're in this on this podcast and salute to them for launching it.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: The first episode spoke about do you have to be self-aware to know yourself?
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 2: To tell you the truth, me and know the answer to that and me, and no one either.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: Them thing mean, because me and know it means to know yourself and me and no, it means to be self-aware.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: But I will listen to them.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 2: I will listen to them.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 2: I want to hear what they're doing.
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 2: I want to salute as well to chale lovelace, as we're talking about this and success, uh, coming from so many different areas, just in the way that they open up about their journey, and I feel like these are the types of things that we need to learn in.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: So, when you're doing literary degrees, why we can't learn from people like them, or Celeste Muhammad, or people who would have written and done things here, rather than just going to books, from people who or like Samuel Selvon I remember doing a Samuel Selvon play in Fatima back in the day and it's the first time I know you could actually write, like how you talk.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: I'm sure if I write a book just how I stalk on this podcast, little british trend will be confused and they will call them done still why we had to read and write how these people talk, which part they come from.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 2: The first time I went england I can't understand what not nobody's saying and them talking.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: I was so confused when I walked these streets in London I said where is he?
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: Everybody's sounding like they're from one of these Netflix series.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: But I saw Che Lovelace.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: I'll read from his Instagram post here.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: He says it is with real Trinidadian pride that I share this project, which has been in the works for a couple of years.
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 2: This collaboration with the Italian-slash slash French vintage rum firm La Maison Velayre will feature 21 of my paintings on bottles and packaging for those rare Trinidadian rums recently launched in Europe.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: In Europe, maybe I will learn to read one day.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 2: My mouth Remember.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: I tell all the things, so the Europe's will slip out as the story goes.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 2: Renowned Italian rum collector and founder of Velier, luca Gagano, visits Trinidad about two decades ago and manages to acquire the last casks of aged brown rum from the then recently closed Carony Limited Rum Distillery.
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: The very last of these casks, numbering 21 in total, are now being bottled and released in limited editions worldwide by a company known for finding rare rums that go on to gain cult status globally.
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: This special collaboration will feature 21 of my paintings, one of each of the casks to be released.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 2: Five so far have been put out.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 2: For me, this is a testament of our potential.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: At our best, this small place can reach every corner of the globe with a bit of beauty and magic to share.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Let's keep walking, uh, working.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: One day, this territory will learn to read too.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: But this is what I mean.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: When I the first time I heard the name chay love lace, to me it was a surfer.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: I wrong about this as a little child.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: I remember people talking on the news about chayvelace being one of the greatest surfers and making waves internationally.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: No pun intended, me don't know.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 2: The man is painting.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: I know Well, I know a little bit from his Instagram page that he paints right.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 2: But the point I'm making is that our education system seems to still want to remain in the colony and only follow the.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: Not that the education of the colonizers is a bad thing.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's good that we learn about these things.
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: I don't want to get into changing all these street names and removing all these people statue again, but all right, well, put alongside the colonizers, put our people to now put, but tell the story of the colonized as well, where, whether it's janelle and her husband, could talk about their journey and how much things they've accomplished.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: I was talking last week about how people in on a forum for musicians to come in and talk about you know, martin raymond, uh, carl beaver henderson coming to tell their stories.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: We need more caribbean stories, more success stories from here, so that I look at zachary as an example.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: He needs to have more people from here he could look up to and identify with when he's looking to find his way in life or to decide on what his journey should look like.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: So hopefully I'm speaking directly to places like the Arthur Lockjack Graduate School of Business, right, because that's the kind of places where we could do the research and I'm willing to volunteer Did I just say that out loud?
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: I'm willing to contribute for pay to come together and help document some of these things so that we could have a better archive of it and the thesis.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: So when people doing PhD Janelle go on there to do her PhD in New Zealand when a man doing a PhD or the what is called it DBA from Lockjack, the thesis or the work that was done, or salute to Dr Teresa Charles, you know what I mean.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: The work that could be done in these PhD or DBA programs could help unearth some of these stories that we need to hear about locally.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: But again, songs about talk right.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 10: Turn the whole world upside down.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 10: Blue, a color pigment Chicken and making a statement.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 10: Blue, a color pigment Chicken and making Tuesday day a brand new day.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 10: You come down, crow, and we on the way, chicken, and I'll come down with a brand new song.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 10: Take ten thousand to bar.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 10: We won, so run, run, run come down to the fun.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: There's a celebration.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 4: The we on the way, chicken out, come down with a brand new song Take ten thousand to bar.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: We won.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 4: So run, run, run.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: Come down to the fun.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 4: It's a celebration.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 4: You're not on the run.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 4: Run, run, run.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 4: Bring your bags and come today.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 4: The whole world, upside down, upside down, left right, turn around.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 4: Today we're coming to pay the dumb.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: Upside down left right, so let me play the right one now, yeah no-transcript.
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  Speaker 10: Talk ya, talk ya serpent master.
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  Speaker 10: Talk ya, talk ya friggin' oppressor, ah la-da-dee-da-da-da-da.
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  Speaker 10: La-da-dee-da-da-da-da.
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  Speaker 10: La-da-dee-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da, bye.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 10: I think we learned some of the confidence you've had too long.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 10: You're running the session, you're feeding your ego, creating impression.
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  Speaker 10: Well, judgment, come.
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  Speaker 10: We're dropping the bomb boy.
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  Speaker 10: Run you run.
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  Speaker 10: Now it's time I get on you.
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  Speaker 10: Power, the word in the conscious styling Building it for a brand new morning.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 10: You power the word in the rap, so styling Rocking the roots of the vampire system.
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  Speaker 10: Talk your talk, you mocking pretender.
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  Speaker 10: Talk your talk, you bloody deceiver.
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  Speaker 10: Talk, your talk, you serpent master.
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: More talk and more highlights in our podcast.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: Right before we get out of here I want to salute songwriter producer, podcaster KG Caliph Graves is the man right.
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  Speaker 2: Producer podcaster KG Khalif Graves is the man right and coming out of the Musicon, or Musicon Musicon, conference last week, probably talking about that hoppy in there One of the on the final days and, of course, written by Michael Mondesi in the Express one of the final days of the conference.
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  Speaker 2: So KG, popular interviewer, blogger, vlogger, vlogger, youtuber, podcaster in the trinibad space, held a forum and interviewed some of the proponents of trinibad right.
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  Speaker 2: So, as I say, a trinibad music has had a positive impact on the lives of many disenfranchised young people in tnt.
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  Speaker 2: So he's one, one of the general founders, richard DJ Pan, romano right.
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  Speaker 2: Dj Pan is one of the men who is one of the biggest shouters, one of the loudest voices in the TriniBad movement.
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  Speaker 2: Romano is credited with coming up with the term TriniBad.
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  Speaker 2: Of course I know that term TriniBad from Jerome Brammer right, and Jerome Brammer credits Seth Gaines with that.
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  Speaker 2: But the genre or the brand trinibad has been around for many, many, many years.
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  Speaker 2: What they take it and make it into is a different story, but of course, uh, that battle is being fought or continues to be fought where dj pun says he's the one who came up with the term trinibad.
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  Speaker 2: The music entrepreneur speaking on tuesday at the trinibad exploring trinidadidad Newest Musical Genre panel, discussed that the ongoing Caribbean music conference and movie town.
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  Speaker 2: He warned against limiting the music to violence and witness to the violence witness in the nation's streets.
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  Speaker 2: The panel included Rihanna Elburn, a songwriter, celebrity bodyguard, johnny, johnny bravo, who is a big part of the trinibad movement, and, uh, of course, kg, with a host of the panel, jazzy blaze and richard dj pan.
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  Speaker 2: Romano.
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  Speaker 2: Like many other things you wouldn't please everybody.
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  Speaker 2: That's how the world is.
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  Speaker 2: Which story sells most, which rumor spread the quickest?
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  Speaker 2: Trinibad is not the streets.
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  Speaker 2: All them murders your hair and that is not trinibad.
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  Speaker 2: Trinibad is a genre of music like dancehall, like soca.
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  Speaker 2: It's our dancehall.
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  Speaker 2: But somehow every little negative thing that happened in the hood we'll try to blame it on trinibad and say trinibad this and trinibad that.
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  Speaker 2: A fiery romano said in response to a resounding applause from a cinema full of music insiders and fans.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sure trinibad fans right.
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  Speaker 2: Romano said that trinibad acts and stakeholders are doing our part to show, to show the good of the music.
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  Speaker 2: His words were affirmed by the nodding heads of fellow fellow panelists.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, jazzy blaze, jazelle christopher, artist manager delicia patterson and celebrity bodyguard johnny bravo.
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  Speaker 2: It creates an avenue for plenty artists who wasn't getting an avenue.
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  Speaker 2: That is the first thing they're not seeing.
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  Speaker 2: Plenty used to trying to do music could still be trying to do other things with their peers doing.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: That mightn't be good, but they're still trying to make a way for themselves through the music.
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  Speaker 2: I wish everybody would pull together, try to nurture and help the youths.
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  Speaker 2: I wish everybody would pull together and try to help the youths too.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, sometimes it's not about helping the youths alone, but the household.
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  Speaker 2: If the head of the household is not financially stable, it will affect the children and they will go astray.
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  Speaker 2: So we can't just blame, turning back to any bad youths, but see the solutions to really get the thing where it should be.
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  Speaker 2: Asked by the moderator kg about the future of, uh, the polarizing genre.
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  Speaker 2: He said I have a real hope, bro.
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  Speaker 2: I now come from belize and I drive in a wrong and his eyes like santa claus.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can see why.
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  Speaker 2: You see the bad stigma trinidad have in trinidad doesn't have that out there.
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  Speaker 2: Every single weekend I'm outside and everywhere we go, is real love.
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  Speaker 2: We have to keep doing our part to show the good, because they can't talk this bad about it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, I done can't read already and it's hard to read that right, I'll say this I will always defend the freedom of speech and youths going out there, I think, wiser and older and more experienced voices.
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  Speaker 2: How to continue to talk to them, because I believe that with ages come reason and as some of these youths get older if some of them are allowed to get older, because we're seeing more and more of them who not allowed to pass a certain point in life right or pass a certain age as they get older they're going to change the tone and as they make children and they they're going to adjust the music.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 2: It will happen naturally.
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  Speaker 2: You see it with many, many artists I see buju as an example come out singing a hardcore dancehall music and then switch over to more conscious music.
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  Speaker 2: You see it after a certain age.
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  Speaker 2: That is about.
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  Speaker 2: That is about it for that kind of energy, right.
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  Speaker 2: I think the issue is always that music is always the misled, you, the, the youths who.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: The household is an issue and, um, as one of the, but there's a young lady who did a spoken word at zachary graduation and she was talking about parents failing right and I think she hit the nail on the head.
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  Speaker 2: The society can't catch back if parents continue to fail right.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 2: If parents are already in the trend and take control of them and bend the stem while it's still supple, then we have a problem right.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: And those youths who reach the point of comfortably going on Christmas list videos with guns in their hands and so on, there's no doubt that they're being heavily influenced by the music.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt that they're being heavily influenced by the music because the the other influences in them in their lives not strong enough.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: My influences, my life was strong so I could listen to all the gangster music and them thing and and never wanted to do anything like that same thing, pun saying about belize.
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  Speaker 2: They're not related to this.
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  Speaker 2: When them here belmont, when I, when I say listen to music and I hear big upsside, jungle, tg, reamer, it don't mean much to me, just song like cool words to say and cool places to visit.
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  Speaker 2: When I go jamaica, of course, I find out something different about tg and southside and reamer and jungle and these places.
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  Speaker 2: You know I mean, if you go if you go for real you might have a different experience than christmas list.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, so the I applaud hoppy and them for putting the trinibar youths in a forum like this and allowing them to be highlighted, because there's a movement that's not gonna stop and so on, but I I appreciate them being in a space with older artists or I don't say older, but more mature artists who could talk to them and and share these spaces.
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  Speaker 2: Like one of the things I always felt good about was seeing young brother and destra meet up in the airport when I saw that on instagram, and I think part of what needs to be done here is these youths need to meet more marshalls and david rudders and they need to be around other artists so that they're not feeling ostracized and outside of the society and have to continue to rebel.
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  Speaker 2: We had to get them to be embraced rather than feeling like rebels, because if they're feeling like rebels, they will continue to act like rebels, and the more they continue to act like rebels in the music, they're going to continue to influence the marginal youth Like I have a little sister who knows every Trini Bad song.
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  Speaker 2: She never honks her badness, does she Not her honks, have a little sister know every trinny bad song.
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  Speaker 2: She never owns a badness, isn't she not at all?
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  Speaker 2: If in zachary graduation that they let me play some of them trinny bad, them children know the words to every one of them song but they don't have a answer badness in them, largely because, again, the influences much, much stronger in their day-to-day lives between the household, the community, like zachary ended his speech by saying uh it.
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  Speaker 2: He said.
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  Speaker 2: I quote the african proverb it takes a village to raise a child.
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  Speaker 2: He said, and you are quality village and you raise quality children.
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  Speaker 2: As he ended his speech, and it's true, where that village fail, trinibad is taking over and it's important that people like pun, who are the loudest voices behind this, we need to get them to get that message.
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  Speaker 2: It's not about you alone making money from this or individual families.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's true, what he's saying is true.
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  Speaker 2: If, if I sing a trinibad song and it blow up, I could now see about my family, mind my family and pay some of them insurance and have that some of that extra income that all they have to travel all about now, all this.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: So, family and pay some of them insurance and have that some of that extra income that all they have to travel all about now, only so.
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  Speaker 2: But is it at the expense of the rest of the society or is it that at the expense of my village or my fellow villagers?
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  Speaker 2: So people like pun, people like kg, who are, I don't I keep using the word older, but what I want to say is more mature, more worldly, more wise, they clearly have something.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: It would be great if they could be embraced more, so that they themselves do continue to push down negative or that not negative, but that stigma of being ostracized or stigmatized by society, or that stigma of being a rebel for the sake of being a rebel, of being a rebel.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 2: And get them to change their language, get them to change what they're telling the youths, that only this could be a hit.
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  Speaker 2: Or get them to promote more of these, these songs that are uplifting, uh, or sending direct messages to marginalize youths, to let them know that they have other ways.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: I want them to continue more of that.
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  Speaker 2: What we need is more puns and more KGs, and less man falling down the street due to Trinidad music, or less nonsense about rival area killing one another.
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 2: Or they could do the Beanie man and Bounty Killer thing where they clash one another and pretend to be enemies for long enough, where you could make a career for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: It's like.
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  Speaker 2: It's like muhammad ali.
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  Speaker 2: One time muhammad ali was basically coming out right and saying that he used to set up the fights where a boxer could get three fights so he win one, then he lose one, then the big finale in the end, so that a boxer who was less popular or less fortunate than him or didn't have the kind of exposure or money that he had, he kind of bring him hey, you get three paydays here where you could set up your life, and so, in other words, he not just doing it for himself, but he doing it for the village.
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  Speaker 2: So it'd be great if we could get to the point where we could change the twang of people like KG and Pun in particular.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 9: Where we can get them to change like this to talk backwards instead of saying oh me, backwards is me, oh, instead of saying oh, there, backwards is there, oh.
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 9: And when they talk, so we poor men won't understand.
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  Speaker 9: So all the women go have advantage on man and if a woman want to leave she man, she go talk it.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 9: He can't understand.
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  Speaker 9: She won't say I will leave the man.
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  Speaker 9: She'll just say, man you leave, will I marry, and he leave way like Marianne.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 9: The women will be singing we up for.
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  Speaker 9: So they will be bad talking, we and we wouldn't know.
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  Speaker 9: They wouldn't say that fella face, like an alpaca.
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 9: They'll say alpaca and like face, fella that.
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  Speaker 9: And believe me, son, when we go get the blow, if they decide to do the housework back, what are you doing?
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 9: A shoplendy husband for run and hide, you're sleeping inside, man sleeping outside.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 9: And if a woman want to leave, she man, she could talk it up.
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  Speaker 9: He can't understand.
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  Speaker 9: She wouldn't say ruby, I will leave, johnny, she'll just follow johnny, leave will I will be.
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  Speaker 9: When, with this backward business, they get into, they will start to do everything backward to.
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  Speaker 9: Instead of throwing the water in the flower, they go side of the flower in the water and when you see this thing get chronic in their blood, they will forget entirely how to talk forward.
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 9: Husband can't understand, wife, what she's saying.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 9: Wife can't understand husband.
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 9: Well, that understand husband when she asks him for the allowance, well, the husband will be in a monkey pants.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 9: She wouldn't say Johnny, where's my money, she'll just call out money, my is where, johnny Boys it's a great spoiler, right?
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: You know we don't ever play enough spoilers in this podcast, but I'm leaving Oli there.
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving Oli as we talk about talk.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: I'm leaving Oli on a rap song with two of my favorite artists.
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  Speaker 2: One is a group, one is a legend La la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la la.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Lyon, ben Badman why you white?
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  Speaker 2: So I get on my lid if you go place.
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  Speaker 2: Ben rude boy, ben bad boy, say a wine right down to the ground and mash up the place.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 2: The eagle was flying high Until you caused him to cry.
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: Now, all over the dance, you call it your name.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 10: They say you are wanted man and it's time that you understand the things that they say you do they coming for you.
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 10: Ben Lyon, ben Badman, why you wise so and get on by in the good place, ben rude boy.
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 10: Ben bad man, why you white, so I get all bad in if you good place, ben rude boy, ben bad boy, say you white, right down to the ground and mash up the place.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 10: Thank you, good wine, good to win this time, so your best has wine, ben liar.
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 10: Ben bad man why you white.
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  Speaker 4: So I get on ballin' if you don't place.
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 4: Ben rude boy, Ben bad boy, say wine right down to the ground and mash up the place.
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 2: Well, enjoy a little weekend and go in, have a good week.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: Have a.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 2: We'll see you all next week.
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 2: Bye.