Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Royal Australian Navy, Captain Pete Bartlett explains what's involved in Exercise Kakadu
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- 0:00Speaker 1: As I'm sure you're probably aware, we know that Exercise
- 0:03Speaker 1: Kakadoo is currently underway, so the Royal Australian Navy's exercise,
- 0:07Speaker 1: and it does involve three thousand personnel from more than
- 0:11Speaker 1: twenty countries as I understand it, and it's one of
- 0:13Speaker 1: the biggest exercises in history, with eighteen surface ships, one
- 0:18Speaker 1: submarine I think, and more than thirty aircraft. Now joining
- 0:22Speaker 1: me in the studio to tell us a little bit
- 0:24Speaker 1: more about this is Royal Australian Navy Head of Exercise Kakadoo,
- 0:29Speaker 1: Captain Pete Barthlet. Good morning to you, Pete.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Hello Katie, and thank you for the opportunity to come
- 0:35Speaker 2: to your studio and speak about Kakadu to your listeners.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm really interested to hear a bit more about
- 0:41Speaker 1: it because you know, obviously we can't see as much
- 0:44Speaker 1: of what's going on with Exercise Kackadoo as what we
- 0:47Speaker 1: maybe do with the aircraft exercises that take place.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Well, that's true, Katie. This is our fifteenth iteration of
- 0:54Speaker 2: the exercise. We do it every two years, although we
- 0:57Speaker 2: miss the last one obviously for COVID, but we are
- 1:00Speaker 2: operating primarily up to the north of the Tiwi Islands
- 1:03Speaker 2: and to the west of Darwin into the exercise areas there.
- 1:06Speaker 1: And so what kind of activities are involved in the exercise.
- 1:09Speaker 2: Well, we have three primary phases of the exercise. We
- 1:12Speaker 2: have the sea pay, we have the harbor phase sorry,
- 1:14Speaker 2: and then we have a what we call force integration
- 1:16Speaker 2: training and free play phases. So in the harbor harbor phase,
- 1:20Speaker 2: we go through a bunch of briefs from weapon practice,
- 1:25Speaker 2: safety briefs, Department of Agriculture, Water and Environment briefs, exercise brief,
- 1:32Speaker 2: air safety briefs and so on. Plus we have sports
- 1:34Speaker 2: days and receptions and so forth. So that gets the
- 1:37Speaker 2: people together, which is what Kakadu about. Kakadu is about
- 1:40Speaker 2: bringing our regional partners together, which is the important thing.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Then we roll into what we call force integration training,
- 1:46Speaker 2: and that's when we do the basic weapon firing, any
- 1:48Speaker 2: submarine warfare, any ship, missile defense, constablity operations boardings. So
- 1:52Speaker 2: we do that and then yesterday we've had a pause
- 1:54Speaker 2: or what we would call a pause X where we
- 1:57Speaker 2: will get the ships to goe to anchor over night
- 1:59Speaker 2: and then we'll start a free pay war X today
- 2:01Speaker 2: where they'll do more complex any submarine warfare, maritime strike,
- 2:06Speaker 2: and air defense activities.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Tell me about some of these vessels as well, because
- 2:11Speaker 1: I guess, you know, we can't see a huge amount,
- 2:14Speaker 1: particularly the submarine. How big are we talking here?
- 2:18Speaker 2: So our Collins class submarine is off the top I
- 2:20Speaker 2: had is about three thousand ton. It's actually one of
- 2:22Speaker 2: the biggest conventional submarines in the entire world. So it's
- 2:25Speaker 2: a big submarine, but it's a very capable platform. We
- 2:29Speaker 2: have vessels such as the Fiji patrol boat, which is
- 2:32Speaker 2: a a patrol boat about five or six hundred ton,
- 2:36Speaker 2: and then we go through to our own Hobark class destroyers,
- 2:40Speaker 2: which is a highly capable their warfare destroyers. But the
- 2:43Speaker 2: really great thing about Kakadoo is that we've got all
- 2:47Speaker 2: these regional partners with their capabilities, and there's some serious,
- 2:50Speaker 2: serious capabilities and seriously good looking ships out there. So
- 2:53Speaker 2: the ships in the Japan, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, United States,
- 2:58Speaker 2: they've all got their own capabilities and something to be
- 3:01Speaker 2: seen and enjoyed.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Is there anywhere that the general public can sort of
- 3:05Speaker 1: see them from or not?
- 3:06Speaker 2: Really? It's not really. Unfortunately the ships will come back
- 3:10Speaker 2: alongside for just a couple of days. There'll be a
- 3:13Speaker 2: couple of guys out at anchor. There'll be some guys
- 3:15Speaker 2: at Fortill Wealth, and I think we've got some east
- 3:17Speaker 2: arm so as you know, there's no public access to
- 3:20Speaker 2: those ports. And with the guys at anchor, we really
- 3:23Speaker 2: do like to have people not come too close because
- 3:26Speaker 2: it makes people feel nervous when there's small boats approaching
- 3:29Speaker 2: a ship at anchor, particularly when it's warship hey with them.
- 3:32Speaker 1: With a vessel like the submarine, how many people are
- 3:36Speaker 1: on that vessel at any one time.
- 3:37Speaker 2: I think the corona of cons class submarine is in
- 3:39Speaker 2: the order of sixty sixty four people.
- 3:42Speaker 1: And is that like, you know, for a person like
- 3:44Speaker 1: me who's never been on a submarine, what is it like?
- 3:47Speaker 2: You know?
- 3:47Speaker 1: Can they do everything like you normally would be able to.
- 3:50Speaker 1: I'm assuming that there's cooking facilities and all that kind
- 3:52Speaker 1: of thing, like in a.
- 3:54Speaker 2: Submarine is a little cramped, but yes, they absolutely have.
- 3:57Speaker 2: They have their own galleys, they have their messes. I
- 4:00Speaker 2: don't even think they're hot bunk anymore, which is awesome
- 4:03Speaker 2: because of the older submarines they used to share bunks.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yeah right, so roll out your sleeping bag, get in,
- 4:08Speaker 2: roll your sleeping bag up, and the next guy gets
- 4:10Speaker 2: into your bunk. But that's all gone. That's old world.
- 4:12Speaker 2: The New World has got a very complex and capable platform.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Yeah wow, it's look, I think it's such an interesting life. Now,
- 4:19Speaker 1: what countries are taking part in this exercise?
- 4:22Speaker 2: Well, there's over twenty four countries and exercise Kakadoo. If
- 4:26Speaker 2: you include the Fleet Commander's conference, it gets up to
- 4:29Speaker 2: about thirty five And basically you will see people from
- 4:33Speaker 2: Northern Europe, Germany, Norway, Belgium through to the Middle East,
- 4:39Speaker 2: Arab Embrates, Pakistan, India, through Asia, the Southwest Pacific right
- 4:45Speaker 2: over to the Americas. We've got United States and Chilean
- 4:47Speaker 2: folks and pete.
- 4:48Speaker 1: How is this going to sort of you know, how
- 4:51Speaker 1: does it benefit Australia's defense capabilities by having an exercise.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Like this one. Well, we're getting people together, right, So
- 4:57Speaker 2: we we've got folks from all over the worlds I
- 4:59Speaker 2: just mentioned, and we're all working together with a common
- 5:02Speaker 2: purpose and we're learning to communicate, exchange information, exchange data
- 5:06Speaker 2: and operate together and enhance our own skills in warfare.
- 5:11Speaker 1: Now just on a very different note, But I understand
- 5:14Speaker 1: that there's been some changes to the naming of the warships.
- 5:17Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, so the direction came out a couple of
- 5:20Speaker 2: days ago that we will now refer to our warships
- 5:23Speaker 2: as His Majesty's Austraian Warship, and we will go through
- 5:28Speaker 2: the transition of all of our bits and pieces that
- 5:31Speaker 2: have gone from having a queen to a king in
- 5:34Speaker 2: good order, in the appropriate manner.
- 5:36Speaker 1: Yeah, is there a huge amount of change or is
- 5:39Speaker 1: it not? You know, is it not too much change?
- 5:41Speaker 1: I guess when it comes to doing.
- 5:44Speaker 2: That, actually there will be a little bit of change.
- 5:46Speaker 2: So the obvious one is Her Majesty's Warship to His
- 5:51Speaker 2: Majesty's Warship. But it's the things like the crowns on
- 5:54Speaker 2: the cress they are different for a king vice a queen.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Buttons and just bits and pieces all over the place
- 6:02Speaker 2: with signage and so forth. But that'll be done in
- 6:04Speaker 2: the measured manner. It's not like we're going to rush
- 6:06Speaker 2: out and spend lots of money straight up.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is one of those things that is
- 6:10Speaker 1: going to need to change. But yeah, little things that
- 6:12Speaker 1: a lot of you know, a lot of us probably
- 6:14Speaker 1: wouldn't have even thought.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Of absolutely, and I'm sure if we drawed into it,
- 6:17Speaker 2: there'll be many things that we will change.
- 6:19Speaker 1: But in due course, yeah, hey, how much longer is
- 6:21Speaker 1: the exercise on? For?
- 6:23Speaker 2: So Kakado will complete on Saturday, We'll have our closing
- 6:26Speaker 2: ceremony on Saturday night, and then ships will start to
- 6:28Speaker 2: sail to their home ports on the Sunday or in
- 6:31Speaker 2: the following days.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Well head of Exercise Kakadoo, Captain Pete Bartlet, we really
- 6:36Speaker 1: appreciate your time this morning. Thanks so much for coming
- 6:38Speaker 1: in and telling us a little bit more about it.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie. I'm really welcome the opportunity to speak
- 6:43Speaker 2: to you and your listeners about Exercise Cacado.
- 6:44Speaker 1: No laurries at all, Thank you, Thanks for your time.