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The Steps Tracker That Caught A Cheating Nurse - Episode 1 · The Unscripted Investigator Podcast

• speaker-1: Welcome to the Unscripted Investigator Podcast, Episode One with Austin the PI, and your co-host myself, Daniel. ⁓ yeah. Hey, here we go. Let's get it. Alright, so this is episode one. Everything in the podcast is gonna be completely unscripted as the title suggests. So we're just going with the flow. We've got some things prepared for. speaker-0: Y speaker-1: You guys today though, we've got some stories that Austin's gonna share. We've got some reactions to some different clips. And we got some QA. We got some questions sourced from Instagram, Austin's Instagram followers, ⁓ that you guys can ask too if you're listening to the podcast for future episodes. So we've got all that prepared for you today, but ⁓ Austin, is there anything you want to say? speaker-0: Yeah, I'm interested to ⁓ to hear about these clips because I have I'm going into this completely blind. I have no idea what we're gonna be talking about as far as the clips go. I'm interested. speaker-1: That's right. So later on I'm gonna show Austin I've one clip prepared ⁓ with the specific scenario that I wanna see what Austin would do in that scenario as a PI. So I think that's gonna be exciting. And it's a clip that everyone should be a little bit familiar with. So we'll definitely get into that more later. But you have ⁓ you have a story prepared for us, a little bedtime story, don't you? speaker-0: do yeah. ⁓ this I mean maybe not what I would want to fall asleep to, but ⁓ but it's kind of funny. Kayla like makes fun of me all the time because I'll be she'll walk in and see like me on the couch and I've got interrogations playing that I've just fallen asleep to. And it's like the most heinous things. But but honestly like I I love listening to this. And when people ask me how they should prepare to be a Like an interviewer, that's what I tell them. I'm like, go on YouTube and watch these interrogations 'cause it's like that's that's how I do it. That's how I prepare. speaker-1: It's my favorite way to fall asleep. speaker-0: Yeah, just scared out of my out of my skin. ⁓ speaker-1: Somebody probably does that. speaker-0: It's true. Yeah. So the the story that I wanna tell. So this is a surveillance story. This is a a guy that hired me to follow his wife. And this is this is a sensitive one. It's gonna it might offend some people, but I will go ahead and preface this. So this is about a nurse and she was caught cheating on her husband. And people people get a little sensitive when I talk about nurses because it's speaker-1: Mm. speaker-0: It's a a field that I hold in high esteem, but at the same time, there are a lot of people that cheat in healthcare. And people get pretty sensitive about that because of how altruistic the act the actual profession is, right? But at the same time, I mean, you know, my mom was a nurse, my sister's a PA, I have a lot of people in healthcare in my family. And they are not so bothered by the stigma, but I imagine that's because they're not cheating. You know what I'm saying? speaker-1: Hey, nothing's off limits. speaker-0: Yeah, exactly. And ⁓ growing up with a with a PI for a dad, you kind of just like see the world as pretty much anybody can can do anything that you can think of. It's just who you trust and who you know. ⁓ so this guy called speaker-1: You just kinda drop something. You I for anyone that doesn't know, should you talk a little bit about you and your background and your dad as a PI? speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, that's a great idea. yeah, so speaker-1: This is episode one, after all. speaker-0: That's true. I'll keep you guys on the edge of your seat about the story about the about Ale Alejandro and ⁓ his wife that was cheating. But but yeah, so let's back it up a little bit. ⁓ Daniel, you know this. ⁓ for those who don't know, Daniel and I have known each other since the eighth grade and we've been bosom brothers ever since. speaker-1: Right. We've said that since the eighth grade, actually. speaker-0: I actually said that the first time I met you. You could be my bosom brother. For some reason you you stuck around. ⁓ Yeah, so my dad was in the FBI. ⁓ he was in there for about eight years and I I like to brag on him a little bit, but he was ⁓ like top of his squad for four years in a row. which speaker-1: All right. speaker-0: I imagine that has gotta be really annoying for the other people in the squad. because he was just kind of stealing all the thunder. But at the same time, he's the OG. Like what are you gonna do? speaker-1: What's it like to be top of your squad? speaker-0: ⁓ well he's he I wouldn't know never been in a squad. ⁓ I asked him about, you know, what his experiences were like and he told me a lot of really cool stories. Like told me about this guy that stole a bunch of planes ⁓ and then claimed insurance or or he said they were stolen and then he claimed insurance money on all of them and then my dad found them on his property, which is nuts. It it was like seventeen planes or something crazy like that. speaker-1: Have you ever been? Shoot. speaker-0: Yeah, so like millions of dollars. And this guy's just keeping him on his property and he's going to interview him and his other ⁓ coworker is going around the property to look for him. And he finds the planes and and like calls him and says, like, hey, we got the planes. And he's interviewing the guy and he said, as he's talking to him on his front doorstep, you saw like a little bead of sweat and then it started getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And he said by the end it was like His entire shirt was Yeah. 'Cause he's just like, ⁓ no, they're gonna find my planes. speaker-1: Yeah. Slick dude. speaker-0: Yeah. So he did that for about eight eight years and then they tried to move him up to Washington DC because they wanted him to ⁓ le head up a division and he was like, you know what? That would be too much stress on my family. Like even back then commuting into DC would take like two hours. ⁓ so he decided to move back to to North Carolina and started his PI firm. And then speaker-1: said I'm I'm top of the squad, but you can't have me. speaker-0: Yeah, he was like, That was fun while it lasted. I'm out. Then he ⁓ started doing insurance work and eventually got into homicide ⁓ investigations and did a lot with the military and then that kind of bleeds into my background. That's where I started with him doing military investigations and local criminal. And yeah, then I started my own firm. speaker-1: That's right. We're gonna have ⁓ on some time, aren't we? speaker-0: Thinking as we say, yeah. Yeah, I've already asked him. He was like he was like, ⁓ let's do it. He didn't actually do that, but I wish he did. speaker-1: Sweet. Alright, so yeah, so ⁓ trained under top squad dog, former FBI, started your own firm when? speaker-0: So I started my firm, I guess technically, ⁓ not this past March, but the one before, March twenty twenty five. speaker-1: And you'd been working with him ⁓ since high school? No. speaker-0: No, so I I started working with him when when we graduated co ⁓ the year before we graduated college. So I started as a junior in college working with him. Okay. ⁓ and then went to work with his firm for five years continuously and then kinda on and off ⁓ for a few years while I did other businesses and lived in Hawaii. speaker-1: Okay. Right. ⁓ Did you I'm just asking this 'cause I don't I don't know that I've ever like actually asked you in this level of detail your like origin story like this. Maybe I have. I probably have. ⁓ but did you think like in high school in early college, you were kinda gonna go a different route, weren't you? speaker-0: I I had never ever thought about being a private investigator before my junior year of college. speaker-1: Yeah. So then what was it that made you consider it and start working for your dad? speaker-0: Well, so when we went to for for the viewer, Daniel and I went to the same college. We went to Columbia International University. And dang, I just doxed this, didn't I? Sorry. So we went to CIU is what is what you know the people the N people call it. ⁓ that was a joke. Anyways, we'll let it slide. So I went to that school with the intention of doing speaker-1: Go Rams. Yeah. speaker-0: missionary work, specifically working with orphanages, because to make the dad lore even bigger, my dad was an orphan. Right. And so he he grabbed himself by the bootstraps and pulled himself all the way up. And I thought that I've always been super impressed by that. And I saw the effect that the the children's home that he grew up had had on his life. And so I I wanted to work in that same field. ⁓ And then as I was going to college, I realized like I was really interested in business and I switched majors, as you know, to business. And then I realized like I actually had a talent and a knack for investigations in the details. ⁓ and that's when I started thinking, like, wow, like I've never thought about doing what my dad does, but it's actually a great opportunity. And yeah, seems like a lot of fun. Like being a a private investigator is like Kind like being a spy and a detective like mashed into one. That's what kind of brought it on. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. Yeah. 'Cause a lot of people do ask you, like I know a lot of people on your Instagram ask you, like, how do I get into how do I become a PI? is kinda like a top question people ask. And it seems like it's kind of one of those things where you already have to have the opportunity presented to you. It's harder to go seek it out for yourself unless you know somebody or or associated with somebody like that. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, it it is it is hard because you do kind of have to have either prere prerequisite training or know someone, like you said, like find a mentor. ⁓ so like you can do it through like cold calling and finding a mentor that way. But that's one of the things that I really wanna I I have a dream to start like a teaching platform where I can help teach people because like if I didn't have my dad, I wouldn't be able to be in this position that I am. And if I can help other people get started, I think that would be amazing. ⁓ it's something I thought about. speaker-1: That's right. Cool man. Well, ⁓ that was not planned, but I feel like that was a good start. Give some people yeah, some context. ⁓ So yeah, if you want to become a PIA one day, keep an eye out for that course. It's ⁓ dropping soon. Twenty twenty eight. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, dropping soon within the next five years. speaker-1: Exactly. speaker-0: All right, let's talk about Alejandro. Yeah. speaker-1: Allie. So Allie Hogg. speaker-0: Yeah, Allie Allie Dig. So Alejandro calls me and he's like it it's a classic I don't even know how he he found me. He was on Google. But he he calls me and he's like, Hey, Austin, I need your help. I think my wife is cheating on me. And the reality is like ⁓ I haven't noticed a ton of of difference in her behavior lately. But then I noticed I noticed a little bit the other day, like she was hiding her phone while we were at dinner. And it just kind of struck me as weird and like it's on honestly just a vibe check. Like I just had a moment where I was like unsure of why she was behaving the way that she was. ⁓ and then what really made me notice is we're doing a steps challenge. So we were I think our goal was like whoever could do the most amount of steps within the month of November or the month of December, I forget which month the month it was. And so We shared our steps with each other and I was able to view hers and she could view mine. We had a shared family iPad and we could see all of it. I was like, okay. And he's yeah. And he said, She's a nurse and she worked in the emergency department. So she's walking like a ton. So most days, 12,000 steps, 15,000 steps. And he noticed that she was picking up these extra shifts, which is like totally typical for her. She would do that all the time. And I know speaker-1: Gener Stepson. speaker-0: like from having people in the medical ⁓ field in my family. That's very typical. You pick up these extra shifts and you make a lot more money. Like they they pay really well. And so he's telling me she's picking up these extra shifts. But then he goes and he looks at the steps app. ⁓ and this is after she put her her phone down on the table and he's noticed a couple of things. He's looking at the steps app and the the extra shift days, she's getting like twelve hundred steps. Like like she's not Like she's not at work is what that's signaling to him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's when that's when he called me and he's telling me that story. And he said, basically, her routine is the same every day. She gets her coffee, gets out the door, has her badge on, has her scrubs on, gets in her car, goes to work. The the hospital's like fifteen minutes away from the house. And so I set up on her on two of her regular shift days. speaker-1: Hold on, let me jump in with the question really quick. So whenever someone gives you a call in the situation of somebody calling you thinking that their spouse is cheating, is it usually like that kind of scenario? Like they're observant or they're used to their typical behavior and then they notice like a shift and then it they can like point to something or Do they kinda just call and off of vibes alone? Or or is it like usually if they're gonna reach out to a PI, they kinda have something a little more tangible to point to? speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, there's different camps. So I I shouldn't say camps, there there's different phases that people are in. So there's one phase that's like, hey, I'm married to this lady or I'm dating this person and I'm deeply in love and I think there's something going on, right? So like they're genuinely curious. It's not necessarily for some end goal. They just want to know. They have a deep curiosity. ⁓ because they want to know. Like if their love is being spent well. There's another camp that's like I'm going through a divorce and I know that we have been distanced and so there has to be something going on. Or I've seen something going on and they they moved out. And so like I know that they're cheating on me. I just need evidence so that I can get out of paying alimony, or I can get better child custody scenario. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. speaker-1: More so like look or something. Almost. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes they know because of something tang tangible. Sometimes they're just worried out of their mind. And they want and that's the part where it's like a private investigator also, if you're the owner of the business, has to be a counselor too to a certain extent. 'Cause you don't wanna be like you don't wanna be cold and it also it also lets them know that like, hey, I know this is really important to you and I'm gonna take the best care I can to get results for your case 'cause I want you to be able to sleep at night. Cause if it was me, I'd be going nuts right now. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. All right, cool. So speaker-1: Back to Alejandro. Alejandro? Alejandro. speaker-0: Yeah, it's a dude. So so yeah, I set up on her ⁓ at the house. He's like, let's get her leaving from the house and just look at let's get a baseline and look at her regular days at the hospital, see what she's doing. And so I go with her to the hospital and she goes in, does her normal day, goes like one day she goes and leaves and gets coffee. ⁓ one day she leaves and gets coffee, like She does she gets coffee every day from work. She already brings it from work. But then she goes with a female coworker one day to to get coffee. And then we don't get anything. Like there's nothing to be found for those first couple of days. But then we do an ex extra ship day. I know. And that's the thing. Like when you're when you're watching somebody and this person is like hanging on every word that you report back and you report back that there's nothing, it like it's it sucks. 'Cause they're like they're also paying you a a fat piece to get this ⁓ this like evidence. Right. ⁓ so yeah, a lot of that kind of adrenaline comes in where you're you're trying to get something, but you can't force it. And that's ⁓ we can talk about that later. That's a mistake a lot of PIs make. but yeah, day three comes around. And if I was in my spinning chair, I'd be spinning around right now because day three, you know. Right. So day three is it was a Friday. It was an extra shift day. Friday. Friday. Yeah, it was a Friday for her. ⁓ I set up on the house. She comes outside just like normal. And same time, same everything, same scrubs, same coffee, same badge, gets in her car, and we drive towards the hospital, but then we actually are it's on the main road. And then we just drive right past it to an apartment complex. Yeah. And my tagline is I didn't know we were making home visits, right? Yeah. The ER department doesn't make home visits. So she goes up to this apartment complex and she parks and w gets out and is going up to the second story and then somebody opens the door and there was one of her male coworkers that I had seen previously. They weren't in the same car, but I had seen previously. speaker-1: That's right. speaker-0: And then she goes into his apartment, but just before she does, she kisses him. ⁓ and but it's not like a it's not like a like ⁓ exuberant kiss, right? It's just like a peck. It's just no, it's a peck on the lips, but it's a peck. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course I caught it. But it's like a it's like a ⁓ that's all you need. speaker-1: Catch it? Like I've done this before, sort of thing. speaker-0: Yes, like a honey I'm home type of test. speaker-1: This isn't the first kiss. speaker-0: Like it's great to see you. Let me go put my stuff down. Yeah. speaker-1: Like, I've been cheating on you for a minute. speaker-0: Type exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Well here here's the thing. The dude found out because of the steps app, right? So like without the steps app, they were just normal, like, extra shift days. Yeah. But but speaker-1: Yeah. Then it's like dang, how long has she been taking extra shifts? That's what I'm saying. speaker-0: Yeah. And I asked him, I was like, Did you not notice that you weren't making any extra money? Like that the money wasn't coming in from the extra shifts? And he was like, I mean, honestly, no, because it we have we share money, but we have separate bank accounts, and it's not Yeah, it's not because we don't want to share money. Like when I need money, she gives me money. When she needs money, I give her money. But like speaker-1: Bank accounts. speaker-0: And they they've been married for like thirteen years. Like I know, isn't that crazy? Like like me and Kayla had the same bank account since like before we got married. Yeah. That's crazy. speaker-1: That is crazy. So you got the picture. Is that all you got or did you get any more? speaker-0: Yeah. I got the picture. I got them like in the parking lot together. He came down to her car and then really was just that's all I need. I did get them going out basically, I got them going out to a restaurant too. ⁓ but but other than that, like I I document how long she's there. She's not gonna spend the night because it's a it's a shift, right? And yeah, he just w this wasn't for court. So for example speaker-1: Point. speaker-0: for court, we might we might want to get more evidence ⁓ of what's going on. But once I got that, he was like, Yeah, cut it off. speaker-1: Dang. speaker-0: He was like, I know what I need to know. And and that's the thing, like you feel you feel like a gunslinger when you get something like that. 'Cause it's like, ⁓ yeah, like that was the money shot. Yeah, yeah. But then at the same time, like you f you feel this rush for adrenaline, but then you go to call the client and it's like, Hey, your life's falling apart. speaker-1: Yeah. Gotta be the bearer of bad news. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: Kinda had a suspicion anyway. So you're just kind of confirming it. speaker-0: He knew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but a lot of these people whenever they're whenever they're calling me, they're calling me to like disprove their suspicions. speaker-1: I was gonna say like Do they get pissed if you find out that their suspicions are legit? Or are they kind of like relieved? Or is it maybe a mix? speaker-0: It's it's a mix. It it all depends on where their emotional ⁓ like regulation and their processing is. Some people they'll be like they'll be like, Okay, well, like I'm glad that I know now and I'm glad I can make preparations for my kids and I don't have to keep like we don't have to keep up a lie or anything like that. ⁓ but then other people are like, How could they do this? Like my They they go through the whole phase of like denial in front of you. Yeah. And and that's when it's like, Okay, I'm gonna go have lunch. ⁓ call me if you need anything else. Yeah. It it is sad, but sometimes sometimes it does get a little awkward. Yeah. speaker-1: Well, that's a great way to end the story. A little sad, a little awkward. What a feeling. ⁓ speaker-0: Well and and here's the thing I think a lot of people on Instagram wait what speaker-1: Yeah, yeah. speaker-0: When I tell these these stories on Instagram, a lot of people are like, You can't end the story there. We gotta know the rest. speaker-1: Sweight. Next one, next one, next one. speaker-0: No, like there's nothing more, you know, like I'm not friends with these people. Like I go out and I catch it, but but that that story is all I have. Like there I'm not digging in these people's lives to figure out extra things or like I'm not calling him three weeks later and saying, How you doing with all that? speaker-1: No follow up. speaker-0: Yeah, they don't invite me to follow up and and to be honest, they don't want me to follow up. speaker-1: No no retargeting. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's the thing. Those those cheating spouses hopefully are one and done. Like they never hire you again. speaker-1: You should try to figure out a way to keep keep track of the cheater 'cause I bet they'll cheat again. speaker-0: Guaranteed. Guaranteed it. speaker-1: You just gotta hit up their new you got yeah, you gotta target the person they're cheating with. speaker-0: I gotta figure out that frequency. Like, are they gonna cheat in two years and let me get that person's name and send them a like a pamphlet in the mail? speaker-1: That sounds sad. speaker-0: And the the pamphlet's got like specific ⁓ specific things that they do. Did has your spouse been putting their phone on its face lately? Has has your spouse been getting low steps at work? speaker-1: ⁓ my gosh. Super dark Austin. Or you gotta be like a ⁓ like a lawyer billboard type have ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Like one eight hundred cheater or something. Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, we did that for my dad's company one time. speaker-1: Did you really? speaker-0: Yeah, we had one of those digital billboards. speaker-1: What was the what was the word that you used for them to call? Or was it just a number? speaker-0: No, it's just a number, but I I think it was like ⁓ in r in regards to child custody. Like we had a child custody speaker-1: One eight hundred, you're sick. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Nice. speaker-0: It's funny like how small of something, ⁓ how small of a life change can send people into a tailspin to hire a private investigator. speaker-1: Mm. speaker-0: Like their their steps at changed. Or or other times it it literally will be they haven't told me their password for their computer or they haven't given me their phone password or they speaker-1: It could it could be that like there's been instances of cheating in the past and like this is kind of like speaker-0: Like speaker-1: I've seen this behavior before type thing. Maybe. It's just it's just a guess. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, like No, that's totally correct. Yeah. A lot of times like the spouse is so in tune with the person and and what their behavior is like when that has happened before. And I mean it works the same with like any other type of behavior, like somebody's drinking or or whatever, you know, in a marriage, the spouse can see it. Yeah. Yeah. speaker-1: That makes sense. Alright. Well, on that note, ⁓ I got I actually got two clips that I was gonna show you. One I'm prepared to pull up, the other one I'm not prepared to pull up. So we could just do the one. They're very different. They're not related at all. But the one that I was not prepared to pull up is more related to the story that you just told. And then you I no, I I thought about it earlier today. speaker-0: You just came up with it. speaker-1: And I meant to pull it up, but I just forgot. So speaker-0: What let's play it by ear. speaker-1: Alright, I'm gonna pull this one up and then we'll see how it goes and then maybe we'll do another one. All right. Give me a second. Tell ⁓ tell them another quick story, Walla. While I'm pulling this up. speaker-0: Another quick story. Let's let's think. Gotta go. speaker-1: Two seconds. speaker-0: There was one time I was looking for this dude ⁓ in a criminal investigation and he was a drug dealer. Can I s can I say these words on here? ⁓ he sold things of a commodity and basically he was dodging me, right? I could not find him. And and I like on criminal cases you have specific budgets. I could not find him. I was speaker-1: Uh-huh. speaker-0: calling all of his friends, all of his family members. I was going to all these different houses. And so I s I did a stakeout on his girlfriend's house. And then after a month of looking for him, I found him. And he was like, he's like, bro, can we get this interview done so you can stop looking for me? Cause I'm dodging you all over the place. speaker-1: Well yeah on. speaker-0: I was looking for him for a month. speaker-1: And he was dodging you that whole time? speaker-0: Yeah dude and I found him though. Well and here's the thing, I didn't know what he looked like. I just knew his car. speaker-1: One big game of hide and seek. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, except you don't know who you're looking for. You don't know what they look like. speaker-1: His mub shot was like top. speaker-0: Different and what do you look like? speaker-1: It's actually a perfect segue into this video. speaker-0: Gang gang. speaker-1: All right. Let's see, let's see, let's see. You ready for this? Let's make sure this works. speaker-0: Yeah, you're gonna tell me who it is. All right. speaker-1: Yes, so I don't know if you know but iOS twenty seven just came out today and with every new release, you know, there's new features and stuff. And ⁓ spoiler alert, this one says num feature number twenty nine, find my hide location. You ready? speaker-0: Yeah, I'm ready. speaker-1: Can you hear it? ⁓ speaker-0: Nope. My app with iOS. No, I cannot. When you click on someone that you're sharing your location with, you have the ability to hide your location for twenty four hours. So if there's some reason you wouldn't want them to see where you're at, it'll just probably show up as not available when they try to see your info. And then on the other side of that, when you want to share your location with somebody now, you have the ability to do a specific amount of time, including the exact days, hours, and minutes you want them to be able to track you. Before there were only a couple of pre-made options, and this is way nicer to have it precise. speaker-1: Alright, were you able to hear that? Uh-huh. Nice. So new feature. You can hide your location for twenty four hours. You can also set it for a s you can set sharing your location for a specific amount of time, which I feel like is less relevant. But what do you think? Do you think that ⁓ yeah, what do you think? Is this gonna encourage more people to cheat? Is it gonna make it easier? speaker-0: Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah, because here's the thing. Well well before I go to that, the the second piece of it where you can share it for a certain amount time, I think that is actually really smart because and useful. Because like let's say I meet somebody for a like I don't know who would do this, but like Facebook Marketplace. And I'm like, I'm gonna share my location with you so that you can find me because we're at a big sh shopping complex and for some reason you're having a hard time finding me in this big parking lot. I think that's smart. You can share 15 minutes and that's it. Yeah. Now, is it going to encourage people to cheat? One hundred percent. Because let's think about like life 360 or or something like that. Families, when they're when the person is not looking to cheat, they share their location. Everybody's got their everybody's locations. You can see each other. But speaker-1: That's practical. speaker-0: If you're not paying attention to that every day, and a lot of a lot of people, especially in like the older millennials, are not not super, super techie. So they're not paying it, they might not even know how to check that and much less navigate to it every day and like really quickly. And so if if the person just hides it, like they they might not even understand why it's not working. speaker-1: It's like being able to hide your steps. Like what if you could hide your steps for twenty four hours? The guy wouldn't have ever caught on. speaker-0: He wouldn't never know. Yeah, so I think I think that's speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: I don't know why you would do that. Like why not just unshare your location? speaker-1: I you well yeah. I kind of see it as like I mean, you're the expert here obviously, but I kind of feel like it's one of those things that's like it might not encourage more people to do that, but it might make it a little bit easier for those that are already doing it. speaker-0: It's yeah, I don't think it's gonna encourage anybody. It certainly enables them. Yeah. speaker-1: Enables. Yeah. I also think personally that it's a very practical feature for like ⁓ planning surprises and stuff like that. Like I share my location with my wife, but I can I always try to get around it and it never works. And then like if I ever want to get her like flowers or something spontaneously, it just she sees me at like Trader Joe's picking up flowers. speaker-0: Like speaker-1: So I feel like in those instances of myself. speaker-0: Licker way. Yeah. Here's an even an even slicker way. So let's say let's say yeah, I should not be telling this, but I'm going to. speaker-1: No, this is why we're listening. speaker-0: Well, this is the opposite of this is enabling what I'm about to say. So you have let's let's say you have your regular phone, right? I've got my phone and I know that my location's being tracked on here. But I also know I can go to Walmart and get a hundred dollar smartphone and clone this phone, but not share the location. So I can have all my calls forward into that new phone so that whenever I get a call or a text message from my wife, she will see it. speaker-1: I'll say. speaker-0: as it coming through this phone when in actu in actuality I'm just having it boarded to my other phone. So I can leave this phone at the office or I can leave it at home if she's out of town, whatever. And she'll see my location as being at home. But I can take all my calls and my text messages on this other phone. So like speaker-1: You really gotta be thinking for that one. speaker-0: Y I bro, you would be surprised. I mean think think about StepSAp Girl. She's dressing up in full scrubs, her badge, her coffee, making sure her husband sees her doing all of her normal, typical things and then going straight to an apartment complex. ⁓ speaker-1: She is ⁓ yeah. Like she didn't go. speaker-0: No, she isn't. speaker-1: She's like playing the part of going to like her shift. speaker-0: Exactly. speaker-1: Dang, I didn't even think about that before. speaker-0: So so in one way, like reacting to the the iOS ⁓ launch or or you know I'm saying I'm having a reach part, but anyways, the new feature. So does it enable people? Yeah, sure. But like they're gonna find a way anyways. It's not it's not like it's not like iOS made me do it, you know. In reality it's just speaker-1: Wait till you hear that one. speaker-0: Yeah. Not until not until they let Claude out of the box, right? Claude made me do it. ⁓ But yeah, so do I think it enables people? Sure. Like it might give somebody a bad idea. But at the end of the day, they're gonna find a way anyways. Yeah. speaker-1: Dang, why do you think they why do you think they made it? Like made that an option? I feel like they just made it an option for people to cheat. speaker-0: That's what I'm saying. Like I really don't get that. Like why would you speaker-1: Some Apple deck is like, yo. You know what this awesome creature would be? speaker-0: Yo, I'm trying to go to the Coldplay concert and I don't want my wife to know. speaker-1: Exactly. ⁓ man. speaker-0: We'll see that other quote, dude. speaker-1: It's like a hard it's like a hard write. I feel like we're we're kinda that's fine. We'll we'll save it for next time. We'll save it for next time. I was is good. ⁓ okay. speaker-0: All Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. G ⁓ question and answer. Let's see. speaker-1: Give people to ⁓ give people a reason to tune into episode two. Dropping next week. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: All right. Yeah, what and before we get into this, if you guys want your question answered on on the podcast and potentially live streams, drop ⁓ into my weekly stories. Watch my stories. I'm gonna be putting up like, Hey, here's the questions for the pod, drop it here and I'll answer it. Yep. speaker-1: ⁓ this week since it's episode one we sourced it from Instagram. You'll be posting that on Instagram, but you could also like drop a question in the comments if you're watching on YouTube. Or ⁓ we might be live streaming at some point. speaker-0: Or On speaker-1: either YouTube or TikTok or something. So yeah, whatever ⁓ whatever way you want to find yourself asking a question, Instagram, YouTube, drop your questions. We'll do our best to get them answered. But we got a few today. speaker-0: Easy money player. And and here's the thing. The better the question is, the more likely I'm gonna answer it. True. speaker-1: The on the flip, the worst the question is I'm the one monitoring this, so I'm probably gonna skip it. Just being honest with you. Just setting the expectations. ⁓ actually, for the first question, we're gonna start with my own question. So also these these will be anonymous, except for this one. This is coming from me. ⁓ unless you don't wanna be anonymous, unless you wanna like call in, we might do like a Dave Ramsey type. speaker-0: A scabby or whatever it is. Abigail. speaker-1: Yeah, dear Austin. ⁓ dear Austin, I have a question for you. Something I've always wondered. What is the difference or is there a difference between a private investigator and a detective? speaker-0: I mean, if there was, it would be news to me. So I I think that might be a regional thing. Like like in in ⁓ the UK they might say detective. ⁓ but yeah, I think they do, private detective agency. But but no, like if you were to ask me, like my initial thought would be a private investigator might be someone who does more surveillance, but ⁓ And a private detective might be someone that does a lot of criminal cases, but I think they're just interchangeable. I don't know. speaker-1: So in like the traditional sense of the word detective, when it's like in a story or whatever, is that functionally the same as a private investigator most of the time? speaker-0: You mean like in a well, detective means like usually when people use the word detective, they're talking about a police detective. speaker-1: Mm. speaker-0: Yeah, so like they're talking about So a private investigator, sorry private one second. speaker-1: Just a guess. speaker-0: Phone just went into bedtime mode. I need to turn that off. so a police detective works at the police department. They were once a patrolman or so they took some ⁓ some job as a a police officer, right? Then they took the detective's exam and moved into the detectives division. Then they got moved to whichever detective department they wanted to work in or needed needed them. So might be ⁓ like B and E, like. robberies and things like that. ⁓ it might be a homicide detective, it might be an SBU detective, which is like special victims like rapes and things like that. ⁓ and then a investigator. speaker-1: That's like a Brooklyn nine nine detective or like a like a Batman. What's the what's the detective in the Batman? Gordon? What's his name? Something Gordon? speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. James Gordon. speaker-1: Is it James? speaker-0: Yeah. I don't know, but I know it's it is Gordon. Yeah. Yeah. Eventually he becomes the the police commissioner, right? So it's like you you work up your way until you're a detective. You have to gain relevant experience. And that's why in as a private detective, you have to have relevant experience before you're given a license. ⁓ because you're dealing with people's personal information and things like that. So a private investigator is a speaker-1: Detective Corden. First name Detective. speaker-0: detective that works for private clients. Right. Don't have any any arresting power or anything like that. I don't work for a government agency. I work for myself gaining evidence for my clients. speaker-1: So private investigator is more about the clientele than it is about the sluicing around. speaker-0: Right, right. And that's a comment I get on Instagram, like not a very private detective are you on Instagram. And it's like, Well, I mean, number one, there's two billion people on Instagram. The chances of me being recognized very slim. But also I do a lot of criminal investigations where I literally tell the people my name. So it doesn't matter if they know who I am or not. I'm doing a criminal investigation. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. Your ti your clientele's still private. speaker-0: Exactly. They're private citizens hiring me. speaker-1: All right, that clears things up. I appreciate that. how many questions do you think we got time for? speaker-0: ⁓ I think we got time for three or four. speaker-1: Okay. Alright. ⁓ all right, next one. Actually I think I'm gonna answer this. ⁓ who is your co-host? It's me. Is Daniel not the PI? speaker-0: Yeah, let me let me say a word though. Daniel Daniel's my best friend, my bosom brother. We've been through thick and thin, crossed the world, back home together. We've been it's been a minute, bruh. speaker-1: I just got married in March and Austin was my best man. Yeah. Thickest thieves. speaker-0: Dick is thieves, dog. One of the best days of my life. speaker-1: That's so sweet. All right, next question. This can just be a simple yes or no. Are you happy in life with work and family? speaker-0: Yeah, I saw that question. And yeah, let me let me give a little bit more than a yes or no. Yes in both. So let me talk about family first. I've got a beautiful wife. I've got a gorgeous little angel daughter who is also a tornado. I've all I've got two cats that love me. One's sitting over here, Bella just laying on the floor. And then with work, yeah, I started this business and somebody asked me. Like two days ago, if I have slow times and you know, knock on wood, but I have not run out of business since I started this company and it's been such a blessing from God. So am I happy? Yeah, I'm happy. That's speaker-1: Great. Well said. ⁓ that goes into the next question. What's the craziest thing you've ever had to do in your PI work? speaker-0: Ooh. The craziest thing I've ever had to do. I mean, this one's not that crazy, but it's kinda funny. speaker-1: No, it was the craziest. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah, shelf shelf that. speaker-1: I mean you've done some crazy stuff. Seen some crazy stuff. speaker-0: Yeah, it's true. I've seen it a lot of I've seen more than I've done. Right. Which is how we like to that's how we like to keep it. ⁓ so one of the crazier ones is like I dressed up as like a ⁓ an appliance repair man. speaker-1: But you're going to say an appliance. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah, I dress up as like a dishwasher. And I figured I walked at somebody's door and I just I had no clue. speaker-1: ⁓ I wish. speaker-0: dressed up. I mean it was honestly kind of like this outfit, but I had like a hat and ⁓ a clipboard with the company logo on it. And I went up to the door and I was like looking for somebody and I had a pen camera. Like it was a an ink pen camera. And so I had the I clicked it on. Welcome to the door. Hello, ⁓ Mr. Smith. And I I read the wrong ⁓ apartment number. And it was just I just needed to see who was coming to the door. ⁓ and then I got it on camera. That's that's one of the crazier ones. ⁓ another one, this is I like this one. I followed somebody to a gated community once and I couldn't get in and I needed to get in ⁓ to see who was at the house and who was doing what and who was doing who, you know what I mean? ⁓ so I got my little school back school boy backpack on. ⁓ trudging my way through, waving at the neighbors. speaker-1: Freshly shaven. speaker-0: Especially Shane look looked about eighteen. And then ⁓ I get to their house and right in front of their house there's like some wooded area. So I I walk in to the woods and I pull my camera out of my backpack, my long range camera. And I I'm like filming them and this dude lets out ⁓ the girls three Dobermans and and they're like like two, three hundred yards away from me. But somehow they lock on. They're like immediately looking at me. And they're just losing their crap. Like they're just going crazy. And and I I'm leaned up against a tree and my hands are like shaking like crazy. And you can see the camera shaking. It's so funny. But I got the shot. speaker-1: Nice. speaker-0: And we got out of there clean. Except our britches. speaker-1: Right. Well, that ties in perfectly to the next question. These man, we're just hitting this. Speaking of losing your crap, the next question is have you ever had dish S H I T really bad on a s stake out, S T E A K on a stakeout, like at Texas Roadhouse or something like that. And missed your shot because of it. speaker-0: So yes, this has happened. There there was I mean, we're just sh I'll just share. So I was on speaker-1: Wait, is now it's gone. Is this like a couple of weeks ago? speaker-0: This no, this is a couple of months ago. speaker-1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was recently. speaker-0: It is this year. I was on a stakeout. ⁓ S D A K as they say. And yeah, I'm watching this watching this house and I'm like, I'm about to poop in my pants. It was so bad. The pressure was immense. Both both figuratively and literally. And so I was like, I I I didn't even tell the client. I was like, I just gotta go. I like I have to go. So I drove down to this gas station and this beautiful Indian man was behind the ⁓ behind the counter and I was like, Excuse me, sir, I see that it's employees only. It's an emergency. Can I use your bathroom? And he was like, Yeah. I was like, dude, I'll I'll buy something. I don't care. Like I have got to go. It's either your bathroom or a Gatorade bottle, please. And so he let me he let me go. And and I I feel bad for him because that the cleanup must have been something else. speaker-1: ⁓ man. speaker-0: Pumigation station. speaker-1: That's right. ⁓ alright. Should we leave should we end it on that or should we do like one more? speaker-0: Let's do one more. speaker-1: We'll do a ser we'll end it on a serious note. If a man watch No. speaker-0: Ha ha ha. speaker-1: That's just easy Should we no no? No. What what's your take on how mental health shapes what you're seeing as a PI? ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, I saw that question. It's it's interesting because as you know, I've had my own mental health journey and I I'll talk about that at some point. But I mean I might talk about it right now. Because because you see a lot of especially work in the criminal cases that I have, you see a lot of stuff. Right. There are things there are things where I've ⁓ you know, at the end of the day, I I speaker-1: Hard to see. speaker-0: Yeah, it's hard to see ⁓ a debate with my wife, like, do I bring my family into this? Like, do I let them know what's going on in my head? And ⁓ you know, the at the end of the day I chose, yeah, I need to I need to let my family know like what is going on in my mind because if I don't, I will I'll become sick after a while. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, there there are days where I've driven home when I worked in an office outside my house. ⁓ driven home and the entire time just like didn't realize that I was completely silent. And like no words, no phone, no nothing, just like thinking about what I had just seen. ⁓ and then it gives you it can give you nightmares, it can it can haunt you a little bit. But I think I think it has a really big impact. on a lot of people because it takes away it can if you let it it can take away your empathy ⁓ seeing this stuff every day and so like for example like you you can look at somebody and even just from a practical standpoint as an investigator say I look at some guy that's cheating on his wife and he's got four kids his kids are ⁓ six through seventeen you know and He's stepping out and he's he's becoming like what we look at as a scumbag. If you if you let yourself like become so jaded that you can't see it from his side, you lose an edge because you can't you can't understand what would make him want to do that and then what he might do in that situation, if you just look at it that way. But if you are able to keep your emotions and your like emotional regulation in check, then it allows you to see things further as a detective and be more empathetic or More emotionally flexible, I should say. Does that make sense? speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah. But it it definitely is like a there's a lot of adrenaline and a lot of like really intense feelings that you gotta work through when you're looking to this stuff. And I wouldn't I like I would definitely not say I've handled it like like a rock the entire time. Like I've definitely had to work through some stuff. It's it can be difficult. speaker-1: It that also kind of shows like the less glamorous side of B just in case somebody thought it was all ⁓ what did it say? Rainbows and unicorns. speaker-0: P I Yeah. Yeah. It it is definitely like a cool job. And even those that that like kind of haunt your dreams, those are like really cool cases. But at the end of the day, they're also really like sickening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're like they're real people that died and they're real people that were abused and and and then real people that were cheated on, real people that their lives fell apart. speaker-1: Times. Yeah. This is real life. Dang. That's how we're gonna end it, huh? speaker-0: Kind of a heavy note. But here here's what I'll speaker-1: That's kinda the reality of it too. So don't come don't come to this podcast looking for ⁓ all giggles. We're keeping it real, it's unscripted. speaker-0: Don't don't come knocking if you don't want me to answer the door. You know what I'm saying? No, but here's what I'll say. ⁓ I I'm excited we're doing this. Finally a chance to there I don't think there's a lot of good PI education out there. Yeah. I think there is there's definitely some, but I think I think the reality is ⁓ PIs aren't typically the ones to be on social media. And so I think I'll speaker-1: That's right. That's right. speaker-0: This is this is a great chance to talk about real stories, talk about real things that happen in the PI world and ⁓ what it's really like running a PI business. And I I want to get into some of the business side of things at some point because like that's what me and you connect over a lot is like the marketing side and and what business comes in the door. So I'm just excited to be doing this. Yeah. speaker-1: For sure. This is gonna be fun. I feel like already like I've gotten to hear in more detail things that like I I mean, we talk all the time and you tell me these stories. This isn't the first time I've heard this stuff, but like hearing it explained and taking the time to like really like go through it all, I feel like just ⁓ it's fun. It's ⁓ it gives me like an even closer look inside your world. So for anyone that's listening, I mean This is this is some of this stuff is new to me too. So you're getting the real inside scoop on the life of a PI. Man, maybe that should be the name of the podcast, The Life of a PI. speaker-0: Un the unscripted life of a PI. speaker-1: It's like a movie though. Life a pie. speaker-0: That's true. speaker-1: Five fifty speaker-0: Maybe we maybe that works. Hey, catch us on episode two. We'll bring we'll bring even more heat. We'll we'll bring double the heat next time. speaker-1: That's right. Drop your questions. Don't forget to like and subscribe to the podcast. Any last words? speaker-0: Yeah, if you don't already, follow me at Austin the PI. ⁓ thank you, Daniel, for hosting. You did a great job. speaker-1: Thank you, sir. We'll catch you on the next one. speaker-0: Peace.