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1 - Jordan Wheatley, Wedding Photography meets Landscape · Reframe

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  SPEAKER_02: Jordan Wheatley's uh close friend and colleague of ours in the photography industry.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's a wedding photographer who has a deep passion for landscape photography.
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  SPEAKER_02: He's a major adventurer and he's overly boisterous and has the most bubbly personality that makes every shoot just like absolutely hilarious.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um welcome to the show today, Jordan.
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  SPEAKER_02: And um I hope you you like talking to us.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh we're we're really sort of for people who don't know you and your work, um you want to give us a little bit of an insight to sort of who you are, sort of in your personal life, and then we'll we'll move into other questions.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, hey guys, thanks for having me on.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um I think we're gonna have a lot of fun.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I don't know how I feel about just being described as bubbly, probably because it's a bit too accurate, but um yeah.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um so for me, who I am outside of photography, um, I'm a new dad.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_01: I've got a six-month-old girl at home um with my wife Mel.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she's started to let us get some sleep now, which is fantastic.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um but uh as far as my photography journey goes, um I was kind of keen on it initially out of high school when I just kind of had an iPhone because it would just kind of commoditized what photography was, which moved into shooting with some film cameras before the hipsters thought it was cool.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um and yeah, just really discovered a lot of enjoyment for it and eventually bought a Canon 60D.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: That was my first kind of digital camera.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, enjoyed taking pictures, and then people started to ask me, Hey, you've got a good camera.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: Can you photograph my wedding?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, no, hire a professional.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_02: It's always the first reaction when you just when people start being interested in your work, isn't it?
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_02: Can you come take a photo of me, please?
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the imposter syndrome and just uh and a severe lack of confidence.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um at the time I was um still working as a swimming teacher, which was quite a fun job.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I happened to meet the father of some of the kids I was teaching, and he um is an uh amazing photographer and was willing to kind of take me along under his wing um and uh really teach me how to do people and portraits and really gave me the confidence um to do that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And from there I um photo first photographed my first wedding on the 17th of October 2015.
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  SPEAKER_01: And since then I've probably done a few hundred weddings and uh I love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um but still have still had some landscape photography adventures.
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  SPEAKER_01: That will always be my kind of my first love of photography.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um I love the adventure.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I love that you know, landscape probably brought us together as mates.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you know, so I'm I'm grateful for the all of the connections that photography has brought me over the years.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_03: So you're with regarding your um wedding photography, how much of your landscape passion do you um bring into that form and into that medium?
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I try and bring a little bit of it, and it depends couple to couple.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like I think that's a big part of the wedding photography job is just reading couples and kind of what they want out of their day.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: And some couples are really keen to go for a bit of an adventure and maybe make time for sunset or just driving to a whole nother location.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and other couples uh maybe are on a tighter schedule throughout the day because they've got like things like tea ceremonies or um all those sorts of things.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but yeah, like I had one in the Blue Mountains probably about a year ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and the couple were just super keen to drive away from the reception venue after they'd kind of done all their bridal party stuff, and we went to this um lookout in Katoon Bar, and we got just the most insane sunset, but you know, we made the most of it.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: They brought a little picnic, and yeah, I really try to incorporate the scenery and that that light that we search for as uh landscape photographers to give couples um photos with them in them, but it's also an artwork that they can have that's a direct commemoration of their wedding day as well as something that can hang beautifully on a wall in their home.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's um yeah, well said, mate.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's um it is interesting to see um how you merge the both, that's for sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um what would your favourite part be about shooting weddings?
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  SPEAKER_03: Like I know there's the moment, the key, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It might be tough because there's so many things that happen during the day, but um if you had to pick one, what would it be?
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh look.
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  SPEAKER_00: As far as shooting goes, the bridal party shoot is always the most fun.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I think as far as like if I can only just witness one bit the ceremony is often really beautiful, but it's actually I would have to say if I had could only witness one bit, um it would be the reception because it's often where you really get this deep insight into the couple.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um and you get to hear these beautiful speeches from their um closest friends and family, and they just you I you know, I'm a complete stranger, but I get to really experience the love in the room, and um that's kind of part of what I tell my couples is that I want to become a part of your world for a day and really engage with who you are and your family and your friends and everything that's led you up to today, and um yeah, be a part of you know, the celebration of the next chapter of your life beginning.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I'd really try and emphasize that personal connection.
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  SPEAKER_01: So whilst the bridal part issue is the most fun to photograph and there's um it's the it's the pretty pictures, it's the hero shots, it's the fun, it's the really fun stuff, but I think for just being able to photograph the reception to really see who these people are is really special.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um when it comes to the art involved with the wedding photography, do you uh aim to do more sort of setup scenes where you'll really set up the scene and the lighting?
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_02: I know when I look at your work, there's uh such a varied range of how you actually capture the pictures between natural light and you use you know backlit flashes and then you know side-lit flashes and everything.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_02: You you do a lot of different methods um and come up with some fantastic work.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: So um for you, like is it more about setting up the work or is it like a mixture between the candid and mixing up?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_02: Like, well, how does it so how does it work for you?
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: So I think part of what attracts me to wedding photography is that there's a quite there's kind of a few different genres within it.
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  SPEAKER_01: There's times where I'm the documentary photographer and I'm just trying to be a fly on the wall and let things happen and not direct things.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, with family photos, there's obviously a lot of setup, and I need to tell Uncle Bob to stop doing a peace sign behind the bride's head and put his camera down and give me the camera.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you know, well, where's Arnie Cheryl?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know who Arnie Cheryl is, but I'm screaming for Arnie Cheryl to get into the photo.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: So there's times where I'm very obvious and I am the center of attention and I'm being an idiot because I feel like uh I don't know, sometimes wedding photography is about 20% photography, 80% talking crap.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's where your boisterous nature comes into play, mate.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so there's times for where, and you know, for bridal party stuff initially, you know, I'll line them up, make sure it's pretty and the pretty picture's done.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: But the beauty of digital these days is obviously you can kind of do the nice thing, but then I like to play games with the bridal party and have some fun.
• 9:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I usually get good reviews from them after it's like, wow, that was fun.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't feel awkward, which is which is great.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: So there's times where I'm setting up stuff to get that done, and then kind of doing what I can to direct but then distract people so that I can they can enjoy the experience and attach positive memories to the experience rather than going, well, I just felt like I was playing some weird, awkward game of twister.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's so funny.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh dealing with the brides and the grooms and fan uh family would be um a challenge, that's for sure.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_03: It's always a challenge to me.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_03: Whenever it's a lot of people, photos.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_01: I try which we I try and have uh I have a bit of method methodology that I speak to the couple about for, and to make sure we can um do it as efficiently and without headaches as possible.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: So um Carl and I, we we know you quite well outside of photography, and we really know that you're really deep into your philosophy of photography and and what it means to you.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_03: Can you take us through a little bit of your why and your what?
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  SPEAKER_03: And I'll let the listeners in into a little bit of your your theory behind photography and what it means.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, flog.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I've absolutely ever put that really cleanly, cleanly into words.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, sorry, I'd love to flog is flog is um yeah.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think the why and the what have definitely developed over time, as I've learned, obviously, initially just kind of you know, just doing kind of nature photos with a film camera to, you know, and taking like one or two shots to you know, shooting weddings where I'll shoot anywhere from four to uh I think the all-time record is uh 10,780 images in one day.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, just to be exact.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I'll I'll never forget that day because it was an amazing day, but um trying to go through all of those was an absolute flipping nightmare.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, that that record still's in my broken.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Shout out to Giselle and Chatwen because that was a mad day.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um so the why and the what does depend, I guess, on um whether I'm shooting weddings or landscapes or you know, a bit of the commercial work that I do.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_01: But again, I think ultimately it does come down to the connections that I can make with couples.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: And as much as I'll go out on landscape shoots myself for that a bit of solitude and adventure um and a bit of exercise, because we all know I need that.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I think ultimately it it the the joy of it is and the why of it without it being it wasn't ever my intention, but I think what I'm grateful for is the connections that photography has brought me with people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like I still I've I still had like couples that I've photographed their weddings, like I photographed this couple's wedding about what would be four, maybe five years ago now.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, Jackie and James.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we had them over for lunch, my wife and I, um like three weeks ago because you know, we had just really connected with them.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's part of the why is the the community and the stories I get to tell out of it and you know, the stories of like a landscape adventure.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: Like I um got to go for my first landscape shoot um post baby a few weeks ago, and I absolutely wrecked myself.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you know, that was a fun story after I got past the sore muscles and um all that sort of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: And you know, in landscape photography with yourselves, um, it's always been fun hiking out to get to a place for sunset.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I think I've taken both of you fairly off track to some left field locations.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: You're like a little jackrabbit.
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  SPEAKER_02: Anywhere in the blue mountains is good for a little goat track to sort of disappear, isn't it?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: And then going, oh, that track was really easy to find in the daylight, and now that it's post-sunset, I'm not really sure where the track is anymore.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I'll still have to follow the ridge line.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: This is not where I parked my car.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_03: Tell us a little about your oh sorry, keep going, mate.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're right.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm I'm just I'm making it up as I go along anyway.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I think I just wanted to circle back to your um your what was that little fun story, your post baby your post baby shoot.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I I really want to hear about that.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's I love your little adventure stories and yeah, enlighten us.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Before you go, I just had to get in there and to see what that was before I forgot.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: What led to so muscles?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, the the long short of it was when I looked at my watch for the recovery time because I tracked the what I did for the whole morning, it said 71 hours of recovery required.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, um so I don't know.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: I think I'd gotten a bit of sleep and I had a free run the next day, and I just um very uh sheepishly asked my wife if I could um go out and shoot sunrise the next morning.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um and she I was still expecting to do the overnight feed with my little one.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um but she said, no, I'll do it, you go out and do it.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um massive gratitude for my amazing wife looking after the bub overnight, so I could um go out and do that.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I looked at the forecast and went, all right, we're going out to uh Narrowneck, Castlehead.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: And so uh, but of course, Glen Raphael drive at the moment is um got a landslip repair, so I can't you can't drive out to the car park.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to park at the very top and then take my bike down a set of bunch of stairs, and then I was riding.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: And it turns out my pack was like 23 kilos or something, so there was just no way I was getting up any of those hills.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was just completely gassed and like the light starting to happen.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like just trying to push when I'm just dying.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: Finally got to some downhill, smashed it, zip tied the bike to a tree at the trailhead where there's you know it's just it's walking only, you don't want to ride the bike the rest of the way.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_01: Got out to Castlehead, which is another one and a half Ks with the pack.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um got out there and kind of got still got some of that pre-done glow, a little bit of mist through the valley.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was hoping for a bit more of a cloud inversion, but the wind really picked up.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: So there was still a bit of atmosphere, which was really nice, but wasn't the kind of mist that I was hoping for.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_01: But um got some shots with the with the R5 and some shots with the drone as well, which I was reasonably happy with.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um had the jet boil, had some Jurgen and Muesley for Brecky, and then I packed it back up, walked back to the bike, and then kept heading out along Naroneck just to kind of see how far I could get.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_01: But again, because I was just so, so gassed up these hills on the bike.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: I um just called at one point, stuffed this, and took the drone for another flight just to burn another battery and turned around and came back.
• 16:07
  SPEAKER_02: And how far were up Narrowneck?
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: But did you have to park?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_02: Because I know it going up the hill is hectic.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's next level, like state.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: You can't drive to that car.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's yeah, the narrow.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_02: The whole the whole way.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_02: The whole way you would have been dead.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder you were dead.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_02: That is crazy.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's sore in the car when you do it.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: So you know, it would have been worse if I'd had didn't have the bike um to at least smash those downhills.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, it was a good little jaunt, and I kind of got about halfway along Narrowneck down towards Terrace Ladder, and um just was like, I'm literally just going too slow to get as far as I want to, so I need to turn around and go home.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, and then 71 hours of uh recovery time after that.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: I was, you know, yeah, absolutely destroyed, but it was good fun.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_02: What was in your recovery program?
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_02: Do you have like a way you recover from something like that?
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: Once upon a time, I might have.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I probably just a bit of uh stretching and a bit of crying and um immobilization.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: A bit of crying.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_02: You're like it's it's my turn to the daughter.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: You're like it's my turn to daddy's turn to cry.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't have time for your stuff at the moment.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: Do you um do you have a a training program um for your hikes?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: Because I know how like obviously listening to you just talk about your challenges just then and your your um recovery session.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_03: Do you have like a training method to to get prepare you for these trips or um is that a work in progress at the moment?
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um once upon a time I was just kind of naturally pretty fit and now I'm about to hit 30 and I'm realizing that I need to take a bit more control of it.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um so at the moment I'm trying to do a run and a ride every week and do um I'm gonna do start picking up a bit of resistance training and probably hit up Carl for some workouts on that one.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um just trying to get the leg straight back.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um so nothing too too crazy at the moment, because I mean I only I just realized at the start of this year a bit of a new year's resolution was like, oh, I really do need to get fit.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I went for the first run.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: I went to I've been on in about 11 years um at the start of this year, the second of Jan, which absolutely destroyed me.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, I've been a little bit crooked the past couple of weeks, so I haven't been able to keep the training regime up, which is annoying.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, just trying to do some run, do a run, do a ride, um, hopefully do a do a swim, just a little bit of variety to uh balm my attention deficit.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_02: Okay I'm gonna go right back to your weddings now.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_02: So do you change your approach to cater for the personality of of the customer?
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_02: Because I know for me, if I when I was doing weddings, I found there was like very varied personalities between brides and grooms, and it could you had to sort of mold your method.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: So, do you have like a method to your madness of how you get the best out of your clients so you can give them the best product?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've got to funnel the madness into a method.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, yeah, I generally try and do an in-person or a Zoom call meeting initially when the couples are talking about booking, and then once they're booked, I try and kind of keep in touch and like at least do one more uh meeting before the wedding day.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I encourage my couples to do an engagement shoot as well, does a bit of a pre-shoot just so that we can get to know each other a bit better is with that as well.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that usually gives me a good uh feel of who they are, and I try and get a bit of you know how they met, what they do when to connect with each other, like what their hobbies and how they spend time together kind of separately, individually.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um and that kind of gives me an idea of whether they're people who are happy to direct themselves a little bit and just walk around and have fun on their wedding day, and then I'll just go, I'll go stand there, that looks cool, and then they'll just hang out.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um, versus others who are a little bit anxious um and uh feel more comfortable with a bit more direction from me.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, it's all about getting them to be okay being photographed, which seems quite obvious, but um there is a there's a bit of talking and reassuring and I mean, like I've kind of touched on previously, so wedding I did uh uh last weekend, uh there was this really cool shot.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the couple were initially, I was a bit worried that they were gonna be quite specific in what they wanted and direct me and just tell me we want this photo.
• 20:53
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I think once they saw what I was doing, they relaxed, like, oh yeah, we really trust him.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: This is great.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and at the end of the night, we got out to the chapel and I put some flashes in and kind of created a a uh a night scene in front of the chapel that they got married in earlier that day.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it just felt like a special image.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so what I actually did is I walked up to them on the staring position, like, look, this feels like a special image.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I want you guys to reflect on your day and just tell the other person something that you really appreciate about today that you really want to remember about today.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_01: When you look at this photo, you'll be able to remember that thing.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: And so it's a cool photo, but if I hadn't have gotten the couple to um relax throughout the day and then been able to give them that prompts at that point of the day, it's just a pretty picture.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: And pretty pictures are great.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: It's what I do.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's you want pretty pictures of your wedding day and of yourself.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: But if you can attach those, the meaning to the pr the the arty photo, that arty photo is again a a lovely wall piece if you if they like it.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: But it's also more than just a wall piece because they're directly remembering.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Wedding day, if that makes sense.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_01: So and that's all part of just that working out who they are and helping them to attach good experiences to the photos.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: That's um incredible.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it is good to hear um your passion in it as well coming out in your in your talking.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um so we've gone through your the pre-wedding shoot.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: So talking to the the client and taking them through uh your process and getting to know them.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: And we've we've spoken about um your the actual day, um coming to how you approach the day, how you shoot the day.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_03: What about your post-processing?
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like how do you approach that and um to get the best result from the experience you've just had from the wedding?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um and how do you take that and transfer it over into your processing and to the final product?
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's gonna be that's a big question.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure it's hard.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: If you if you spoke to my wife, or if you spoke to um the mentor that I mentioned previously, Adam Hollingworth, um uh they would smack me around for uh telling me that I, you know, I'd spend too much time going into too much detail.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because as you know, a photographer, my own work, I I look quite deep into the details that nobody else, nobody else notices.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um so it is a little bit of a balance between really refining those details in post-processing, whether it be just cloning out like the tiniest little thing that no one else would look at, but I could see it.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um versus getting the photos to the couple in a reasonable amount of time.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got um color and black and white presets that work as my base to um kind of you know create that cohesive suite of images so they'd all have that same look and feel.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but from them it's uh uh contrast and colour and cropping.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_01: So there's moments where you are literally running, um, you know, coming down the aisle, walking backwards, hoping that no one's sticking their leg out to trip you.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, or you know, walking backwards at the sparkler exit and um because you've become a bit too friendly with the grooms and they smack you on the bum and you're still trying to get a sharp shot while that's happening.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: Fantastic.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_01: But um, so there's some there's some aligning that needs to happen with the cropping, making sure the contrast is good.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: There's no kind of majorly clipped highlights or shadows um for I guess for the majority of it.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: When I get to the more arty ones, I'll I might, you know, blow highlights or sh clip shadows a little bit to give that correct mood and feeling.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um but for the general uh run of the day, I just try and make sure that it fit, you know, that they look similar across everything.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um so that when couples look at the photos, they're not distracted by vastly different edits across photos, even if there's vastly different edit moments, and I could do you know very niche edits per photo, but they need to not see my edits.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I try and do invisible editing, so to speak.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um I don't know if that answers your question.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_02: No, it doesn't, it's good.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_02: So do you do you offer like a certain look to your photos and different packages for customers so they can sort of select like uh a certain look that they they hope to receive?
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: Or do you just sort of each wedding is sort of how that wedding it looks and feels with the way it was presented with the colours they chose?
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I feel like you're stitching me up there because that sounds like a really custom package that I don't don't offer.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_03: No, look, I've had it's uh it's your business.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you can run it how you like, you know.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: If you've got your style, you've you've got your style, right?
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I think that's the thing.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: I've got what I think looks and feels good for the photos.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: And so I have my style and I've kind of tweaked my presets over the years to um reflect what I think looks good and looks right, and has enough feeling for it to be, you know, oh, this is a wedding edit versus uh other people because there's thousands of photographers released thousands of presets, and I don't want to just follow trends because if I follow trends with presets, their wedding photos will age faster.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas I try and do relatively clean um edits that mean the photos don't age based upon a preset.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: Um really you really go for timeless then by the sounds of it to make sure there's the longevity for your customer.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_02: That that yeah, that's actually more cool than just going for the straight up preset that's that's popular like for the look now, you know?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and following those sort of um trends, which mean, you know, following those trends might mean you get a bit more attention because you're following a trendy look.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: But um, I think long term for the consistency of my work and what I deliver to my couples, um, it's important that I just do something that means they look at their photos in 20 years and they don't look at them as though they're uh like sepia from back in the day.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, what's wrong with sepia?
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh nothing.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's just not what we go for, right?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um a little change of pace now.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um we'll we'll move on from the the wedding photography.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and let's move into your landscape.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um, what really draws you um to your landscape work and what resonates with you um in that genre?
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, I think as I kind of touched on before, I think kind of that nature photography was probably my first love of photography, like initially when I was um out on my skateboard in year 12, just kind of enjoying the sunset and just taking kind of pictures of nice light and bits and pieces and uh you know going to cliffs and lookouts in the mountains where I grew up.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um that was all kind of fairly easy access.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I think part of the drawer of it is just I really enjoyed uh that time of day of sunset.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I I enjoyed um initially that adventure and the solitude and the, you know, I think that anyone can attest to if you're uh hiking or riding or um that sort of activity, it actually frees your mind up a little bit, um, as opposed to sitting down and thinking about you know to-do lists for the uh tomorrow or the next day or the week or um you know other tasks that you've got to do.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: But when you're just you're hiking out on a on a bush track or uh you know that sort of thing, it uh frees your mind up a little bit.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: So I think it's the there's really uh there's personal value in uh time in nature.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I think that's part of the experience that I kind of gain out of it, um, as well as the more crazy ones where I've got a time limit to get to certain places and it's an extreme terrain and uh it's a good story once I get past the trauma of the aching muscles.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_02: I think um I remember you went with Adam Resch a couple years ago, I think it was now, to um the Western Arthurs for your first time.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um so you want to take us through that.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_02: So what level would you do?
• 29:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean to take you through that war story.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yes, please.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's not us, we've heard it, so it's fantastic.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_02: Take a listen to it.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_02: For anyone that's yeah, not a landscape story or hasn't been to the Western Arthur's.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_02: Um, maybe Jordan will give you a bit of an insight to what's sort of behind the photographs that come from areas like that.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_02: Because um, I don't it's very easy to get lost in like uh it's a beautiful place, but I think people often forget that there's someone standing behind the camera that took that photo.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_02: So um and you said Lakes.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_02: Take us through your journey.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but if you take us through your journey of of that, then I think it'll be a really cool insight because I don't think I've heard the whole story, maybe.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: I'll try and give you the condensed version because I can prattle on about it.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but we've got like I said, we've got time, mate.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: We got time.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I am actually hoping to release this story in a book at some point.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll try and save a few tasty details for the when I release a photo book of it just to capture the story for longevity.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_01: But um so met you guys, including Adam, uh just after the first lockdown of 2020.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: And um after a few outings, Adam said, Oh, I reckon you could, I reckon you could do Western Arthur's with me.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: You're pretty quick up the hills.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, sounds good.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so we kind of booked in uh that trip for them of 2020.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, I just I just saw pictures of them, like, oh, that place looks cool.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so, but then lockdown happened again, and yeah, the trip was kind of off.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but then six days before our original uh leaving date, Tazzy opened back up again and Adam was straight on the phone.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, Oh, do you want to go?
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, uh uh, yeah, okay.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I had six days and I had to finish six edits.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I had three weddings and like three uh kind of other like family engagement uh sort of shoots.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I had six days to turn around six lots of shoots and I did it.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh was getting about five hours of sleep a night, and I'm coming in with you know, no training.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there's a great photo of me on the bus to the start of the track where I'm passed out of sleep in the van with my COVID kilo belly hanging over the seatbelt.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I had no sleep and no fitness.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: And as we're starting the trek um on no sleep, and I'd forgotten my thermals and had to turn around and go home, get my thermals, and then go to Adam's place, and then realized I'd forgotten my sleeping bag as well.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I had to borrow Adam's not quite temperature appropriate sleeping bag.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: So he had a less than minus 16 bag, and I had like a zero-degree bag, and I was shivering.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, coming in with no fitness, uh, and no sleep and no real gauge of how hard this hike would be.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: Because it it was uh when we were kind of halfway through the first day, Adam kind of mentioned, oh yeah, this is probably considered like one of the hardest hikes, if not the hardest hike in Australia.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what?
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: He wrote through him so he wrote through him before he knew.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all but mentioned that the guy Peter John Brosky, who's kind of really made the Western Arthur's really pioneered at the photography of and photography of Tazi and Joe's like, oh yeah, he he died out here.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, what?
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so at that point I was starting to get a little bit worried because Adam's really quick on the track.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_01: You guys know how quick he moves.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_03: Um he's a Usain bolt of mountains.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, fully.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um so he's just whipping through and he's just going up damn.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_01: This is Arnie, more power to just keep me going.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: More energy.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: More energy, up, yeah.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I was getting pretty sick of it because I'm hurting at this point because the mud is anywhere from like an inch deep to like, you know, knee-deep mud that you're trying to either go through or go around if you can.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just raining on and off.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: You're going from sunburn to rain, and that was the first kind of 10 kilometers, and we kind of got through it.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: And the river, the the place had had a lot of rain coming in, and so the lot of the river crossings were about a meter, the water was about a meter higher.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: So we just had to get really wet through the river crossings, and we got to the bottom of the actual range after about 10 Ks.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: And Adam's like, all right, this is where we either stop and camp here, or we have to push all the way to um you know this particular campsite.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and so that would that be missing missing the first camp?
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_02: So that would be missing the first camp.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, we decided to skip Junction Creek and just get we're like, Yeah, we can push to Lake Cygnus, it's only 16 K's, it's fine.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um but then as we were heading up uh the first moraine, the weather just turned.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_01: And so at this point we get to the top of Moraine A, where I thought we could camp top of moraine A, because you can if the weather's good, but the weather had completely turned.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: So at this point, we've done 14 Ks.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's eight o'clock at night.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's it's dark, it's blowing about 70 kilometers hour wind.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: The wind chill factor is about minus 11, so it's like nine or 10 degrees, but it feels like minus three or something.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the wind gusts were like getting tackled, I was getting bowled over.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: Adam didn't have his head torch.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: We only had my head torch, which wasn't super bright.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: And so every time I got knocked over by the wind and you know, my 28 kilos on my pack, um, Adam was just in the pitch dark and just had to yell at me to get back up and keep walking because I was the only light that we had.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: And at this point, I was genuinely praying, Jesus, if I die tonight, please take me into your kingdom because I my body was just giving up.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't it wasn't because I had a broken bone or a cut or a scrape or you know, a major injury.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_01: My body was just giving up, it was just completely spent.
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: My legs were quivering, I was cold and I couldn't get warm, I was wet and I couldn't get dry.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: I was just suffering.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: We eventually, and you know, that point I wanted to stop and make camp, but I was like, no, we have to keep pushing another two kilometers in the dark to Lake Cygnus, which was like climbing down a waterfall in the dark to get down there.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_02: He's the ultimate motivator though, out of out of the massive motivator.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_02: We have to get there, we have to get there.
• 35:50
  SPEAKER_02: What the secret is.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: So um, and then we got to camp and then not yet.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: We got to the campsite, all the campsites were taken, so we had to like pitch our tent in the corner of the campsite, and our hands are going numb, and we just like had to like huddle up in the tent, put our wet stuff at one end, and try and fall asleep.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: And when we woke up the next morning on the 9th of December, there was snow around our tent.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I was a broken man that morning.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_03: Um who was the big spoon?
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Adam.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: At least with the body warmth, kept his kept his warm and dry, right?
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, he had a minus 16 bag, so he was fine.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um I did not have a minus 16 bag.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: So to say that first day and then the the following day, where I just thought, nah, I can't do this.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: We just need to turn around and go back, which is what a bunch of the other guys at the same campsite who had done camping trips the nine previous years, a bunch of mates did a big hiking camping trip every year as a bunch of mates.
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: So they thought for the 10th year they'll do a kind of anniversary trip.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: And these guys who are obviously more experienced than me had done the same thing we'd done the previous day and decided, no, this is too difficult.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're turning around and going home.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, Yeah, I just want to turn around and go home.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_01: But thankfully, Adam made so made a call at like two o'clock that day.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: No, we're pushing on.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna climb to the top of the highest mountain in the range today.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, okay.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we got to the top of that mountain that evening and it's sucked in fog.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_01: Went to sleep in the fog, woke up in fog, and you know, it's day three, and it's my wedding anniversary.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm away from my wife, I'm exhausted, I'm broken, and I still haven't seen these bloody mountains that I've come to see.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: And at about 11 o'clock that morning, the the fog parted, and I finally got to see the range of the Western Arthur's, and it was just incredible.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: And we then had apparently the best weather window that the Western Arthurs has seen in 20 years.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: We had five straight days of sunshine, which doesn't happen.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um it's definitely like a brave the storm for the reward type of story, considering everyone else you said you'd read it, you would like turned around and legged it.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um so that's kind of the nutshell version.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's a few other little smaller stories along the way.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, we didn't get the full 80k that time.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of had to have a chat with that.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, look, I'm happy to keep pushing as far as this, but I don't think I can go all the way through.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because he said said, Oh, this part of the track is where I found my limit.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, mate, I'm already so far past my limit.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to find out where yours is.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: And he was really gracious and kind of uh modifying the trip to accommodate for my limitations, which was probably quite frustrating for him, but he was really kind and thoughtful and um yeah, kind of saw me through that.
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um and we both got some cracker images out of it and had a really good time.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I had to throw out my sleeping mat afterwards because there was a big drool stain on it from Adam.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, lots of good memories.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_02: A drool stain, Adam's drool stain on your on you.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, Adam, he was the big spin.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry, mate.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: I did untop Jim.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
• 39:06
  SPEAKER_03: Adam was a golden retriever up and up in the mountains.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_03: Did you pat him to go to sleep as well?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: Uh what happens in the tenant stays in the tent.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: Happens on the bat apparently stays on the track.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh dear.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: Apart from your um your next Arthur's trip um coming up, have you got anything else um planned?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_03: Or are you just playing a bite year at the moment because you're juggling parent life, um, work life and and photography?
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's a there's a quite a few balls in the air, and um, you know, my little ones taking up a lot of my time, which is fantastic, and that's just the most important thing at the moment.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: So the work um life balance there is is the you know, takes out the most of my time and my energy and my thought.
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um and yeah, playing it by ear, my wife's really, really incredibly supportive of photography, both with weddings and with landscape stuff, and really understands that um, you know, landscape stuff is my passion.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: And so it was, you know, has been amazing in letting me go out for that um shoot more recently and knows that I have a few places that are on my hit list that I want to get to um for um some cool photos that um like one particular photo, the only other like physical frame I've seen of that exact shot was like last take in like 1974 that I found on the flicker.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna try and get that frame um at some point.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got a few locations that are on the hit list.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, outside of the further away trips like Tassie and uh further into the uh wilds of New South Wales, um I'll probably just try and hit up the Blue Mountains a bit more when I can because it's definitely uh something that's underappreciated from you know it's where I grew up and kind of took it for granted.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: But um, but yeah, the more I can kind of get out to my own backyard um to just yeah express and experience the beauty of that place, the better.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's so so diverse, isn't it?
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_02: The Blue Mountains.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: There's uh I find uh because you've got the canyons and and valleys and then you've got forests and yeah, there's a there's waterfalls and all sorts of stuff as well.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_02: So and I think that um that shines through in your landscape work when I when I see it and and view it, you know.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um for everyone at home um and potential customers, uh where can they find your work and how can they book you for weddings?
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um so my wedding business is the Wheatleys, um, theWheatleys.com.au.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um and just the Wheatleys with a little underscore on Instagram.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my landscape stuff is a bit more hodpodge.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: I've got a huge uh backlog of catalog of uh photographs, and I've done a lot of private sales over the years from people that have directly inquired with me.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my Instagram is JordanWheatley PhotoArt, and I do have to acknowledge that uh that was a bit of a last-minute naggies.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: You guys were just nagging me, like, just make an Instagram for your landscape stuff right now.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, I can't think of a good name, so I do have to openly acknowledge that Brett Wood Photo Art.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I kind of stole that tag because I do quite agree with his philosophy of the whole photo, but he isn't opposed to a little bit of digital manipulation to make it look how it felt.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I think that philosophy is quite cool.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I did just steal that tagline, and I need to come up with my own original thing.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um at least you gave him credit, mate.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's you're not just saying, hey, I came up with it.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_03: You you you you're giving them a plug and you're showing your appreciation.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's what makes it as well.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: So it's Jordan Wentley Photo Art on Instagram.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um by no means is my whole catalogue of work there, and it's uh I would like to come up with my own original something or other for that.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: But if people message me on either of my Instagrams, whether it be for weddings or more my landscape one, and they want to just kind of see my catalogue of landscape stuff for prints, uh I've got I've got like private uh links where they can browse uh the catalogues of images and find something they would like.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's just generally how I've done it.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a website for it yet, and I need to pull my finger out and do that.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: Um but otherwise, yeah, uh those that's where you can find my wedding and landscape work.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: And um yeah, say good day.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: And uh yeah, we'll have all that information in our show notes for those who are interested.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: And um, and I couldn't highly recommend Jordan for his wedding work.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um so if you know anyone or you're getting married yourself, hit Jordan up and he'll be more than willing to accommodate you.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh just before we wrap up, Jordan, um, what's coming up next for you in the short term future?
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_03: I know we've got the Arthur's um with um with Cade, Adam, and Carl um coming up.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_03: But what have you got in the near future?
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_03: So coming up in the next couple of months?
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like what are your plans and what's At least.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, look, I've just got a few weddings in the next few months.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I'm kind of just focused on those and uh you know making sure the little one is um you know developing.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_01: She like started sitting for the first time by herself a couple days ago.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_01: She's sitting by herself, so making sure I'm working with my wife to make sure she's eating solids in the sitting and all those sort of things.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um as far as landscape shoots, I don't have anything really firm planned.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um I have a few places in the mountains I'd like to get to once the sun is sitting in the right position.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um so mainly stuff around the Gross Valley, I think, is what I'm really keen on.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um I am often heading back to Castlehead that looks out over the Jamison Valley.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's kind of a my bit of a go-to spot because I have a particular, you know, weather event I'd like to photograph there.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_01: And if I can get like a cloud inversion.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um so it's more kind of watching and waiting for conditions, and then hopefully I've got a free run when those conditions um appear.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_01: So I've got plans but no dates as such.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: I like that you you sort of sit out and wait for the the moment to capture it.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_02: It it sounds it sort of aligns with my um my methods as well and and dean's as well, I think.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_02: Um and yeah, anyone that is a photographer, you know, it's it's waiting for the light and is is the or the weather event is is the part of the art, not just the photo at the end, you know.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_02: So um we'll start wrapping this session up, I think.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_02: We're starting to get close to our limit of the day.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_02: And and short of short of time as Jordan has to go to work as well.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and we don't want to get done when it's too mushy and gooey with you guys, so you know.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, we'll be here for five hours.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_02: We will you can dr you can drill on my shirt next time we're camping, it's okay.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm really dumb getting in there.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: I feel really bad about that.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_03: That's all right.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_03: We're all we're all friends here, mate.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_03: We're all friends.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Adam and I slept in in a tent once.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and it was so windy and we couldn't even fix the tent down uh because it kept blowing away.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_02: So Adam actually got in the tent and then just stayed in there, and we had to share between who got in and out of the tent so that it wouldn't fly away.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_02: And we slept in a tent that was it.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_02: We tied it to what like a tree on one corner, and then um yeah, we we ended up it was on a slope on the snow.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_02: And then so actually I was on one end and he was on the other end, and we ended up sleeping basically on top of each other.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe Adam engineers these scenarios just to get some cuddles.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_03: I think I think so.
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: And on that note, we're gonna give we're gonna give a cuddle and um thank you for joining us on um on this episode, mate.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_03: And um and we hope you all enjoyed that little chat with Jordan today and he learned a little bit about wedding and wedding photography and his passion for both that and um landscape photography.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we look forward to getting lost with you out in a landscape again very soon.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_01: Hitting the SOS button to get found.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, and I'm just like thanks again for having me.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, thanks again for having me, guys.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, really appreciate it.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_01: And to anyone listening that um is interested in either you know shooting weddings or shooting landscapes and just wants to reach out to um have a chat about it, um, please hit me up and hit these guys up as well if you've got questions for them because um I think we're all pretty keen on growing the community and and providing experience and knowledge and friendship within um the photography and the arts community.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: So um if you have questions, ideas, things you'd like to hear about in the podcast from these guys as well, you know, there's a depth of knowledge there, and I think it's really worth anyone listening to reach out to any of us just to have a yarn.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well said, Jordan, and um thanks, mate, again.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, really appreciate it.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: And we really appreciate everybody who has taken the time to listen to us, um, ramble on a little bit there.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_03: But um, it's all for you guys, and um, we really appreciate your time.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_03: So we'll catch you on our next episode.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we'll catch you next time.
• 48:14
  SPEAKER_02: And um, just so you know, we're looking at trying to start dropping episodes sort of fortnightly and and arranging sort of group sessions where we'll we'll record uh a bulk of sessions at a recording studio um so we can sort of get it get ahead of the game and and have a regular, uh consistent and regular release.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_02: So now we have the roadcaster and it's it's operational.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_02: Uh hopefully we can start really picking the game up and and bringing more artists on as well as photographers.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_03: So awesome.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um, we look forward to chatting to a lot more people soon.
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_03: So um thank you for listening, and we'll catch you on our next episode.