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- 0:15Speaker 1: Why how is the best of the bill Handle Show?
- 0:18Speaker 2: All right?
- 0:19Speaker 1: Moving into another topic I want to share with you,
- 0:23Speaker 1: and that has to do with school cell phone bands. Now,
- 0:28Speaker 1: when my girls were twelve thirteen years old, all the
- 0:31Speaker 1: they said, all the kids have cell phones in the classroom,
- 0:35Speaker 1: and I wouldn't let them have I would not let
- 0:37Speaker 1: them have cell phones, wouldn't do it. And then one
- 0:42Speaker 1: of my daughters said, but all the kids have cell phones.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Dad.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I said, okay. So I asked to go to school
- 0:49Speaker 1: to ask the kids, and I said yes. I went
- 0:52Speaker 1: into the classroom of one of my daughters and I said,
- 0:55Speaker 1: how many of you have cell phones? Every single one
- 0:59Speaker 1: of them had cell phones except my daughter. Okay, that
- 1:03Speaker 1: conversation change now she has a cell phone. The argument
- 1:07Speaker 1: has always been cell phones in the classroom are distraction.
- 1:11Speaker 1: People still bully each other. Grades go down, harder to
- 1:18Speaker 1: teach kids because they're looking at the cell phones.
- 1:22Speaker 2: Well, a study just.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Came out and it was published by the National Bureau
- 1:28Speaker 1: of Economic Research. The University of Michigan and Stanford and
- 1:33Speaker 1: Duke and University of Pennsylvania jumped into this, and we're
- 1:35Speaker 1: talking forty thousand students were looked at. And here is
- 1:40Speaker 1: the bottom line. Grade scores didn't change at all. It
- 1:46Speaker 1: did nothing to change the grade scores allowing kids to
- 1:48Speaker 1: have cell phones. So researchers compared schools that use the
- 1:55Speaker 1: cell phone covers by Yonder. Yonder is a company that
- 1:59Speaker 1: makes those pouches that cell phones go into and they
- 2:03Speaker 1: can only be opened up. Now, I don't know how
- 2:06Speaker 1: that works, because I am in favor of kids having
- 2:09Speaker 1: cell phones. Not using them, mind you, but having cell phones. Why.
- 2:13Speaker 1: Because it's so crazy out there. An active shooter comes
- 2:17Speaker 1: in there, every kid is evacuated. Parents want to know. Man,
- 2:22Speaker 1: The first thing parents want to know is my kid, okay?
- 2:25Speaker 1: And if the kid isn't able to use that cell phone,
- 2:29Speaker 1: everybody is panicked. You've got hundreds of parents that are panicked.
- 2:34Speaker 1: So I want to know.
- 2:36Speaker 3: There's never been a case where that's helped in any way,
- 2:38Speaker 3: shape or form ever.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Kid know, because kids are never helped.
- 2:43Speaker 3: And God forbid, a parent tries to be a hero
- 2:48Speaker 3: and go in and goes down there without law enforcement
- 2:52Speaker 3: back up.
- 2:53Speaker 2: I'm not even arguing that. I'm not arguing that.
- 2:55Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, let's say there is a problem
- 2:58Speaker 1: at school and the first thing kid does is call
- 3:01Speaker 1: the parents.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Mom, I'm okay, Mom, I'm not hurt.
- 3:05Speaker 1: I think that's critical for parents to know that, as
- 3:07Speaker 1: opposed to being compared to.
- 3:08Speaker 3: Who's financing who's financing this study?
- 3:12Speaker 1: Well, I don't even know. I think it's this company
- 3:15Speaker 1: that makes these pouches. And there's a couple of ways
- 3:19Speaker 1: of doing this. First of all, in some instances, cell
- 3:23Speaker 1: phones are simply confiscated or held at the office until
- 3:27Speaker 1: school is out. In other cases, you have these pouches
- 3:31Speaker 1: that are locked and the kids can't get to them,
- 3:35Speaker 1: which I don't understand how, and then they're unlocked if
- 3:38Speaker 1: there's a problem. I don't understand how that works. I mean,
- 3:41Speaker 1: technologically speaking, some schools allow kids to use cell phones
- 3:46Speaker 1: between classes. Others do not allow cell phones to be
- 3:51Speaker 1: used or even held by a kid. The bottom line,
- 3:54Speaker 1: all of these protections did nothing in terms of grade scores.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Nothing.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Now do they help kids in terms of feeling better. Yeah,
- 4:08Speaker 1: the study seems to do that. Also, cell phones and
- 4:12Speaker 1: this one I don't even think about, tend to allow
- 4:15Speaker 1: kids to self anesthetize, because that's what the study showed,
- 4:22Speaker 1: is that kids need cell phones. The other situation is
- 4:26Speaker 1: that every kid out there has a computer in school.
- 4:29Speaker 1: There isn't a kid out there it doesn't have a
- 4:30Speaker 1: computer in the classroom. And so the bottom line is
- 4:35Speaker 1: do you let your kid have a cell phone? I
- 4:38Speaker 1: do you lock it up? I think that a cell
- 4:43Speaker 1: phone should be allowed by every kid at all times.
- 4:46Speaker 1: And if you use it during the course of school,
- 4:49Speaker 1: if you're caught during class, okay, off you go to
- 4:53Speaker 1: the administration.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Off you go to the vice principal. No, we're confiscating it.
- 4:58Speaker 1: So the part that I've find absolutely fascinating here is
- 5:02Speaker 1: that with all of the controls, all of the removal
- 5:06Speaker 1: of cell phones in various different ways, didn't change a
- 5:09Speaker 1: damn thing.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I call bs.
- 5:11Speaker 3: I don't think it's been long enough because.
- 5:14Speaker 2: We barely did this. Every teacher I've ever.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Talked to said they are a menace. You've got kids
- 5:20Speaker 3: being bullied digitally. There is no way this is a
- 5:24Speaker 3: balanced study. There's no way you can remove phones and
- 5:30Speaker 3: not make it better, for that doesn't make any sense.
- 5:34Speaker 2: No, there are issues where it does make it better.
- 5:37Speaker 4: No, no, later, No, the study says said, and it
- 5:41Speaker 4: said it is, there are distractions, there are some advantages.
- 5:45Speaker 4: But the bottom line, and how do you test the
- 5:48Speaker 4: way a kid learns is how do you know?
- 5:52Speaker 2: You have to do testing?
- 5:53Speaker 1: And the testing shows this forty thousand kids over a
- 5:56Speaker 1: couple of three years. The testing shows that the that
- 6:02Speaker 1: the increase or that the that theoretically the increase in
- 6:06Speaker 1: testing scores should go up, and it doesn't. Okay, so
- 6:10Speaker 1: much for that, don't ever call the s on a
- 6:11Speaker 1: position that I take okay excellent The old Rouseberry okay,
- 6:16Speaker 1: okay article in the Washington Post. Also some inner some
- 6:22Speaker 1: science here.
- 6:24Speaker 2: Brain rot.
- 6:26Speaker 1: It's it describes being very online and it's harming our brains.
- 6:30Speaker 2: That's one brain rot.
- 6:32Speaker 1: The feeling of coming up for air after spending too
- 6:34Speaker 1: many hours scrolling through social media. That can be brain rot.
- 6:40Speaker 1: Describing the content itself brain rot. It's a noun, it's
- 6:44Speaker 1: a verb, it's an adjective, depending on how you look
- 6:47Speaker 1: at it. So there's a woman who wrote a book
- 6:49Speaker 1: how to Break up with your phone, Catherine Price, and
- 6:53Speaker 1: she not only looked at the studies of people going
- 6:58Speaker 1: through their phone in scrolling, etc.
- 7:01Speaker 2: And there are studies out there.
- 7:03Speaker 1: She has heard from thou this is anecdotally, has heard
- 7:06Speaker 1: from thousands of people since her book was published.
- 7:09Speaker 2: Struggling to focus.
- 7:12Speaker 1: For example, people used to love reading in books are
- 7:15Speaker 1: unable to finish a book the smartphones. What they've done
- 7:20Speaker 1: is increase, exacerbate, exacerbated our inclination to be easily distracted.
- 7:26Speaker 1: That's what this is about. So here's research shows that
- 7:30Speaker 1: scrolling through short videos TikTok, Instagram, YouTube shorts is affecting
- 7:35Speaker 1: our attention, our memory, our mental health. There is scientific
- 7:40Speaker 1: literature out there that shows increase use the short form
- 7:44Speaker 1: video is linked to poor cognition and increase anxiety. And
- 7:50Speaker 1: here is the interesting part. Our brains are distractable naturally.
- 7:54Speaker 1: For example, you're reading a book, or you hear a
- 7:56Speaker 1: loud noise, You're wired to look up and go, well,
- 7:59Speaker 1: was that a gun shot? Was that a car backfiring.
- 8:02Speaker 1: The problem is with constant interruptions, whether it's phone notifications
- 8:08Speaker 1: or switching from topic to topic as you scroll, It fragments
- 8:12Speaker 1: our attention. Now, the question is are there long term
- 8:17Speaker 1: implications if you look at the science again, Jason Chen,
- 8:22Speaker 1: the professor of psychology and neuroscience at Temple University, says,
- 8:26Speaker 1: we do know there are certain parts of the brain,
- 8:28Speaker 1: certain connections between regions of the brain that look like
- 8:32Speaker 1: they're differentiated.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Between people who are online more.
- 8:36Speaker 1: They can see it when they do cat scans. More
- 8:41Speaker 1: people who spend more time on social media, who are
- 8:45Speaker 1: more attached to their phones, show less ability to focus. Now,
- 8:54Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that causation is a correlation? Is causation
- 8:58Speaker 1: for executive you don't know? Are people easily distracted go
- 9:01Speaker 1: to phones? You know? For example, here's the example I give.
- 9:08Speaker 1: There was a scandal, a little tiny bit of a
- 9:10Speaker 1: scandal of Catholic priests dorking little boys.
- 9:14Speaker 2: You remember that. Now, the argument is.
- 9:18Speaker 1: The church responsible for the door kiosity or is the
- 9:25Speaker 1: church just a safe place for people who do that?
- 9:28Speaker 2: Not the church's fault. It's just it's the people's fault
- 9:31Speaker 2: who then go to the church. You see the problems.
- 9:34Speaker 2: So there isn't a real, real close connection.
- 9:38Speaker 1: There was a twenty twenty five study that was published
- 9:41Speaker 1: in the journal Translational psychiatry and researchers looked at data
- 9:45Speaker 1: for more than seven thousand kids around the country. More
- 9:49Speaker 1: screen use was associated with it's a little complicated cortical thickness,
- 9:56Speaker 1: I mean just the way the brain works. And the
- 10:00Speaker 1: science has said that this is important for controlling addictive behaviors.
- 10:06Speaker 2: So the more use.
- 10:07Speaker 1: The more scrolling you do, the more you pay attention
- 10:10Speaker 1: to the phones, the more addictive you can be.
- 10:14Speaker 2: And again, are addictive.
- 10:16Speaker 1: People going to phones or are phones causing the addiction adhd?
- 10:22Speaker 1: ADHD is a big, big problem and another important factor.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Screen time usually means nighttime use. You're in bed scrolling.
- 10:32Speaker 1: It happens a lot. You're just that's where you spend
- 10:35Speaker 1: an enormous amount of time scrolling. And here is what
- 10:40Speaker 1: some of the research says. The number one reason why
- 10:42Speaker 1: kids are not getting the eight hours recommended eight hours
- 10:45Speaker 1: is they're using the screens just too much.
- 10:48Speaker 2: That's it.
- 10:49Speaker 1: And over time, not getting enough sweep sleep, especially in adolescents,
- 10:54Speaker 1: reduces the white matter in the brain. And what does
- 10:58Speaker 1: that mean. Well, white matter is what grows among teenagers.
- 11:04Speaker 1: You've heard about adolescents, and you really don't have your
- 11:07Speaker 1: full brain functioning, your full brain ability to look at
- 11:13Speaker 1: factors and see what's dangerous, which is why teenagers and
- 11:18Speaker 1: young people are crazy. They will do things. They're invulnerable.
- 11:21Speaker 1: No one's going to kill us. Nothing's going to kill us. Well,
- 11:23Speaker 1: that is a question of the brain not evolving, and
- 11:26Speaker 1: it doesn't evolve till you're in your late twenties. So
- 11:30Speaker 1: the bottom line is this ain't good for you. And
- 11:34Speaker 1: here are some suggestions. No screens in the bedroom for anyone.
- 11:40Speaker 1: Make conscious decisions when using chat bots. Our brains love shortcuts,
- 11:46Speaker 1: but if you don't use a skill, you lose the skill,
- 11:50Speaker 1: and the chat bots do all your thinking for you.
- 11:54Speaker 2: You don't spend a lot of time analyzing. They do it.
- 11:57Speaker 1: And the problem is, again, if you don't use it,
- 12:00Speaker 1: you lose it. And that's a real problem. We're going
- 12:02Speaker 1: to find some major, major problems with screening. I don't
- 12:05Speaker 1: have that problem because I don't screen very much. I
- 12:07Speaker 1: don't scroll very much. I don't I don't get my
- 12:10Speaker 1: news from the internet. I don't get my news.
- 12:12Speaker 2: I just don't. We would have never guess that by
- 12:16Speaker 2: the term you just used. I don't scroll very much.
- 12:19Speaker 1: I don't scroll my screen very much. I don't screen
- 12:22Speaker 1: my scroll.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Okay, you have the attention span of a gnat already long.
- 12:27Speaker 2: But it's true. But that has nothing to do.
- 12:29Speaker 1: That's true because I don't have the patience to actually
- 12:32Speaker 1: screen my scroll. Okay, when someone gets lung cancer or
- 12:40Speaker 1: dies of lung cancer, what's the first thing we ask?
- 12:44Speaker 2: First thing?
- 12:46Speaker 3: Were they a smoker?
- 12:47Speaker 2: Were they a smoker?
- 12:48Speaker 1: And when you talk about people who have died of
- 12:51Speaker 1: lung cancer, big names, Walt Disney comes to mind. He
- 12:54Speaker 1: was sixty six years old and died of lung cancer.
- 12:57Speaker 1: John Wayne died of lung cancer.
- 13:00Speaker 2: Yeah. And were they smokers?
- 13:03Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, Walt Disney smoked three packs of cigarettes a day.
- 13:09Speaker 1: He constantly had a cigarette in his hands.
- 13:12Speaker 3: You know an interesting fact, by the way, about that
- 13:14Speaker 3: Bill is at the parks, no one ever points with
- 13:17Speaker 3: one finger one because it's rude. They point with two fingers.
- 13:21Speaker 3: And a lot of that stems back to the photographs
- 13:23Speaker 3: of Walt himself pointing with two fingers. But it was
- 13:27Speaker 3: him holding a cigarette, and they would they would clean
- 13:30Speaker 3: it photo well back then they would do it with
- 13:33Speaker 3: pencils and stuff. So that's why he's always pointing with
- 13:36Speaker 3: two fingers.
- 13:39Speaker 2: Hmm. I didn't know that. That is an interesting point.
- 13:41Speaker 1: Remember no mustache is the only person in the entire
- 13:44Speaker 1: Disney system who could have a mustache was Walt Disney,
- 13:49Speaker 1: and that came as a result of theirs. There just
- 13:51Speaker 1: were too many Armenian employees, women particularly, that were wearing mustaches.
- 13:58Speaker 1: We Okay, you knew I was going to go there.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Didn't you.
- 14:00Speaker 3: I guess I should have.
- 14:01Speaker 2: Yeah, you certainly should have.
- 14:03Speaker 1: So we know now if you look at statistically how
- 14:07Speaker 1: dangerous cigarette smoking is and it kills you. Half a
- 14:11Speaker 1: million people in the United States die as a result
- 14:14Speaker 1: of complications of smoking. That's what the experts are telling
- 14:18Speaker 1: us this, whether the both on a federal level and
- 14:21Speaker 1: certainly pullmonoplogists, and we just now know this, and that
- 14:26Speaker 1: bodes or that goes to a very interesting question, and
- 14:29Speaker 1: that is what can government do to stop smoking? Up
- 14:35Speaker 1: to this point, the government, Well, let's go back to
- 14:38Speaker 1: the fifties and you would see ads and the one
- 14:42Speaker 1: I remember probably the most clearly was an ad was
- 14:46Speaker 1: a magazine of Look magazine or whatever magazine that was around,
- 14:50Speaker 1: and there would be an actor in a lab coat
- 14:55Speaker 1: with a stethoscope around his neck. So clearly he looked
- 15:01Speaker 1: like a doctor a cigarette in his hand and said
- 15:07Speaker 1: Chesterfields are good for you. They will make you calmer,
- 15:13Speaker 1: they are good for your health.
- 15:15Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan even did a couple of advertisements for smokes
- 15:21Speaker 3: at one point.
- 15:22Speaker 1: And what got the industry in so much trouble is
- 15:26Speaker 1: that internally they knew the connection between smoking and lung
- 15:31Speaker 1: cancer and heart disease. They knew it and covered it
- 15:35Speaker 1: up for decades and decades, and so government said, okay,
- 15:41Speaker 1: we've got to do something about this, because you can't
- 15:45Speaker 1: lie to people. You can't commit open fraud where you
- 15:49Speaker 1: know that A is not b's, you can't do that.
- 15:55Speaker 1: And so laws started to be passed, and it really
- 15:59Speaker 1: took the Surgeon General to issue a report saying this is.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Bad stuff for you. And then it got more and more.
- 16:06Speaker 1: Restrictive, not in terms of buying cigarettes, but in terms
- 16:09Speaker 1: of advertising cigarettes. Now smoking, as we know by now,
- 16:15Speaker 1: unless you're a complete more on and don't believe it,
- 16:18Speaker 1: about half a million people die every year as a
- 16:21Speaker 1: result of smoking, direct result of smoking, heart disease, lung cancer,
- 16:26Speaker 1: just all of it. And so what has the government
- 16:29Speaker 1: done about it, Well, it sort of tolerates it, not comfortably,
- 16:34Speaker 1: but our government is tolerated. For example, cigarettes used to
- 16:38Speaker 1: be left alone and fraud was allowed. Cigarettes are good
- 16:42Speaker 1: for you, they relax you.
- 16:45Speaker 2: You're going to be healthier if you spoke cigarettes.
- 16:48Speaker 1: Well, clearly that change is more and more information came
- 16:51Speaker 1: out about the connection with lung cancer specifically, and then
- 16:56Speaker 1: heart disease, and then other issues, other medical issues, and
- 17:00Speaker 1: so we've gone from just allowing it to happen period
- 17:06Speaker 1: to being more and more not so much restrictive, but
- 17:10Speaker 1: warning labels. I went to, cigarettes may harm you. They
- 17:14Speaker 1: cause lung cancer right on the cigarette boxes and then
- 17:17Speaker 1: the skull and crossbones. I mean, all of it telling
- 17:20Speaker 1: me people is going to kill you, is going to
- 17:21Speaker 1: kill you. And it seems to have worked, because what
- 17:26Speaker 1: is it. Twenty years ago, forty percent of Americans smoked
- 17:32Speaker 1: forty percent.
- 17:34Speaker 2: Now it's ten percent.
- 17:36Speaker 1: So it hits home and the tobacco companies still make money,
- 17:39Speaker 1: which I don't understand. I mean, they've lost eighty percent
- 17:42Speaker 1: of their market, maybe because the cigarettes cost so much.
- 17:45Speaker 1: The other day I was looking at the cost of cigarettes,
- 17:47Speaker 1: which I don't pay attention to in the supermarket.
- 17:49Speaker 2: I'm going, oh my god, how does anybody.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Afford this even one pack a day at twelve bucks
- 17:54Speaker 1: a pack, I mean that's twelve bucks.
- 17:58Speaker 2: Yeah, Holy, did you ever no? Yeah, I I never
- 18:04Speaker 2: understood that you never smoke.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I smoked after sex, but that was more. You
- 18:10Speaker 1: were doing it way too fast. Yeah, that's exactly true.
- 18:13Speaker 1: A lot of friction there, all right, Amy, stopped shaking
- 18:17Speaker 1: your head. In the meantime, here's what's happening. We are tolerant,
- 18:23Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the government. The United States government
- 18:26Speaker 1: is simply tolerant. Remember used to be do you mind
- 18:29Speaker 1: if I smoke? And of course you'd say yes. Of course,
- 18:32Speaker 1: no one said no. And then it was do you
- 18:34Speaker 1: mind if I smoke? Do you mind if I fart?
- 18:37Speaker 1: And it got to be a little bit more restrictive,
- 18:41Speaker 1: and now no one says do you mind if I smoke?
- 18:45Speaker 1: They just go outside and sir, repetitiously pick up a
- 18:48Speaker 1: cigarette and smoke in the corner of the parking lot outside. Well,
- 18:53Speaker 1: let me tell you what England is doing. And there's
- 18:55Speaker 1: a lot more jurisdictions that are following suit. England has
- 18:59Speaker 1: said that no one who is seventeen years or younger.
- 19:04Speaker 1: On New Year's Day in twenty twenty seven, will ever
- 19:08Speaker 1: be allowed to buy to buy tobacco. Not you're going
- 19:12Speaker 1: to be twenty one, you could buy. You will never
- 19:14Speaker 1: be allowed to buy tobacco if you were born after
- 19:19Speaker 1: New Year's Day twenty twenty seven, which means that eventually,
- 19:24Speaker 1: if the law continues, smoking is will be illegal. There'll
- 19:28Speaker 1: be a straight out prohibition. And England is not alone
- 19:31Speaker 1: them all Dives did it in November. New Zealand did it,
- 19:36Speaker 1: but then it was the new Conservative government that undid that.
- 19:39Speaker 1: Twenty two towns in Massachusetts have done it and this
- 19:42Speaker 1: is called a generational ban to eliminate smoking. Now England
- 19:48Speaker 1: it makes a little bit more sense because England has
- 19:51Speaker 1: national health and if you're talking about half a million
- 19:54Speaker 1: people dying of smoke related illness, guess what. They don't
- 19:59Speaker 1: just die in two minutes. They die after a course
- 20:02Speaker 1: of years of treatment, and that costs a whole lot
- 20:07Speaker 1: of money, to say the least. So you can see
- 20:09Speaker 1: England moving in that direction, just financially. On our side,
- 20:13Speaker 1: it's just a question of a health issue. I mean,
- 20:16Speaker 1: do we want people to die of cancer? Although once
- 20:22Speaker 1: once you've become addicted, that's the other thing. The the
- 20:28Speaker 1: tobacco company said, is nicotine is not addictive?
- 20:31Speaker 2: I remember there.
- 20:33Speaker 1: Was a congressional hearing in which they brought the CEOs
- 20:37Speaker 1: of all of the major tobacco companies, American Tobacco, Reynolds,
- 20:41Speaker 1: I mean all of them. There must have been twelve
- 20:43Speaker 1: thirteen CEOs, and one of the congress people said, how
- 20:48Speaker 1: many of you believe that nicotine is not addictive? Every
- 20:54Speaker 1: single hand was raised, every single one. Well, cigarettes are
- 21:01Speaker 1: incredibly addictive, very difficult to stop. And I think the
- 21:05Speaker 1: only way you're going to stop this is exactly what
- 21:07Speaker 1: England is doing. Prohibition. Does that mean that it's going
- 21:11Speaker 1: to be black market? Yeah, yeah, it's going to be
- 21:14Speaker 1: black market, but again it's going to cut it way
- 21:17Speaker 1: way down. And alcohol doesn't kill that many people. Alcohol
- 21:21Speaker 1: per se is not going to kill you. Cigarettes per
- 21:25Speaker 1: se are going to kill you.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Okay.
- 21:27Speaker 1: And I want to end with an article in the
- 21:30Speaker 1: Atlantic and it is described the headline as a barbaric
- 21:36Speaker 1: problem in American hospitals is only getting bigger. And what
- 21:42Speaker 1: is the writer talking about, Well, she's talking about what
- 21:47Speaker 1: Jim Kinney says. And if you talk to Jim and
- 21:52Speaker 1: ask him a medical problem, and I do that all
- 21:55Speaker 1: the time I got a problem here, or someone or
- 21:58Speaker 1: friend of his says, I've got an issue, and you
- 22:02Speaker 1: know I should go to the doctor. The number one
- 22:05Speaker 1: piece of dice that Jim says is do not go
- 22:07Speaker 1: to the er. Stay out of the er, because it
- 22:12Speaker 1: is getting worse and worse. Jim had a birthday party
- 22:18Speaker 1: over the weekend and obviously a lot of doctors were
- 22:23Speaker 1: there and we were talking about the waiting rooms, and
- 22:27Speaker 1: I told the story of what happened with Lindsay when
- 22:29Speaker 1: we were the past few months and we were on
- 22:33Speaker 1: vacation in Palermo, Italy, and the doctor was telling me,
- 22:39Speaker 1: and it's an er doctor about how you can wait
- 22:41Speaker 1: six eight hours in the emergency room and then trying
- 22:45Speaker 1: to get a bed in the hospital. You're going to
- 22:48Speaker 1: wait a hold that's just to see a doctor and
- 22:51Speaker 1: then to try to get a bed if you need it,
- 22:55Speaker 1: that can literally take days.
- 22:58Speaker 2: And there is.
- 23:01Speaker 1: There is a term called boarding is what they do,
- 23:05Speaker 1: and boarding is keeping patients in the er on their
- 23:11Speaker 1: gurney waiting for a hospital bed to open up if
- 23:15Speaker 1: they need a hospital. And a lot of people go
- 23:17Speaker 1: in and need a bed, they're in there, not only
- 23:22Speaker 1: in the those little cubicles, but they're also in the hallways.
- 23:27Speaker 1: And I'm asking Jim, how is that possible? You keep
- 23:29Speaker 1: someone in the hallways and that's considered an er. He says,
- 23:32Speaker 1: that's considered part of the er when people are parked in.
- 23:37Speaker 2: The hallway.
- 23:39Speaker 1: And this problem is getting worse and worse and worse.
- 23:41Speaker 1: And why is that? Because the fewer people that have insurance,
- 23:45Speaker 1: the more people go to the er, because the er
- 23:48Speaker 1: has become their general practitioner. The er has become their
- 23:54Speaker 1: internest and all of a sudden, real emergencies are very rare,
- 24:01Speaker 1: and then general medicine is what they spend ninety nine
- 24:06Speaker 1: percent of their time on. And it's getting worse. That's
- 24:10Speaker 1: the problem. As bad as it is, it is getting worse.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Going to the ER is at least a six to
- 24:17Speaker 1: seven hour wait for the doctor unless you've been unless
- 24:22Speaker 1: you're suffering from a gunshot wound, or you are, let's say,
- 24:27Speaker 1: are having a heart attack or a stroke.
- 24:30Speaker 2: I've tried that and.
- 24:31Speaker 1: They knew that I was lying when they did my vitals,
- 24:34Speaker 1: and that screwed me up a lot because then they
- 24:37Speaker 1: kept me in the waiting room for even longer.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Just too does it just as a yuts to me.
- 24:43Speaker 1: So what is the answer to all of this, Well,
- 24:46Speaker 1: it's something that will never happen, and that is some
- 24:50Speaker 1: kind of a national health system the way everybody in
- 24:53Speaker 1: the world has, or every country in the world has,
- 24:55Speaker 1: every industrialized country has, except the United States.
- 24:59Speaker 2: It's communistic.
- 25:00Speaker 1: If we do that, it's socialist, and therefore we don't
- 25:04Speaker 1: want that. We do not want a national health system,
- 25:06Speaker 1: single payer, where the government pays for medical care like
- 25:11Speaker 1: other every other country. So to give you an idea,
- 25:15Speaker 1: what happened, and I shared this story before if you
- 25:17Speaker 1: haven't heard it. Lindsey has asthma and she was having
- 25:22Speaker 1: an asthma talk in attack in Palermo, Italy, and we
- 25:27Speaker 1: had to go to the er because she needed a nebulizer.
- 25:30Speaker 1: She had to have medicine with oxygen. And we go
- 25:34Speaker 1: to the er and within thirty seconds she has an
- 25:39Speaker 1: IV in her arm. They put the nebulizer on. It
- 25:43Speaker 1: looks like an oxygen mass and there's medicine that comes
- 25:46Speaker 1: out of a little plastic container. And so she sees
- 25:50Speaker 1: the doctor who said, and we're talking, within a minute,
- 25:53Speaker 1: you need an eent. You have to have an n
- 25:56Speaker 1: T take a look at what's going on with your lungs. Okay,
- 26:02Speaker 1: give us an appointment. Where do we go? You go upstairs,
- 26:05Speaker 1: You go upstairs. We walked up the stairs and there
- 26:10Speaker 1: is the department where the ear Nose and Throat doctor was.
- 26:14Speaker 1: World class equipment. Now you know, the building itself was
- 26:17Speaker 1: kind of crappy. World class equipment.
- 26:20Speaker 2: She was okay.
- 26:21Speaker 1: He gave us a prescription for medication. We were in
- 26:24Speaker 1: and out in one hour and fifteen minutes.
- 26:27Speaker 2: Waiting room.
- 26:28Speaker 1: First doctor, second doctor, and treatment boy. Just like America,
- 26:35Speaker 1: just like we do here. All right, guys, we are done.
- 26:37Speaker 1: That's ithow baby. Thanks for spending part of your Memorial
- 26:40Speaker 1: Day morning listening to this very well crafted best of edition.
- 26:45Speaker 1: I don't know how they got that on the Handle Show.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Up next a surprise another best of with Gary Ann Shannon.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Have a safe Memorial Day.
- 26:54Speaker 1: I'll catch you tomorrow morning live, this time on KFI
- 26:58Speaker 1: A six forty.
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