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Chuck & Buck 5-14 Hour 3: Could this be the last time? Sup!?!? Cal to the IL? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Hey, good going to you. It is Chuck and Ashley
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Speaker 1: with you Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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Speaker 1: Great to have you a board here. On this Thursday,
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Speaker 1: we have NFL schedule release Day, which we'll get back to.
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Speaker 1: Rick new Eisl's going to join us today at nine
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Speaker 1: o'clock talk a little college football, and of course of
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Speaker 1: his new project, the Dallas Renegade. So it'll be good
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Speaker 1: to check in with a coach, a round of SUP.
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Speaker 1: We'll get in an update on cal Raleigh and here
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Speaker 1: is the latest on cal Raley. Not in the lineup today.
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Speaker 2: H Well, and he definitely tweaked what we thought he tweaked.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think we shouldn't be surprised at all about that.
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Speaker 1: The question now becomes will we get an update later
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Speaker 1: on today saying he's going on the IL.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I want to know.
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Speaker 1: I kind of think that's what's going to happen, but
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Speaker 1: that's just gut. I don't have any insight.
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Speaker 2: I'm the same way as you.
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Speaker 3: I think they probably thought, okay, well, we didn't put
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Speaker 3: him on the al before, and then he didn't get
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Speaker 3: enough rest, and now look, we don't want to deal
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Speaker 3: with this all season where you'll have to be worried
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Speaker 3: about the toughest guy on your team.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, ten full days rest where we can't be
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Speaker 1: tempted to put him in the lineup, or he can't
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Speaker 1: come to the park and convince us that he's ready
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Speaker 1: to go and good to go. Let's just commit to it,
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Speaker 1: bite the bullet, eat the ten days, and then hopefully
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Speaker 1: we can get the good cow back and eleven days
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Speaker 1: from now so we'll see again. Not put him on
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Speaker 1: ninety three three KR dot com. Right now, all right,
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Speaker 1: I have a project today that we're all going to
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Speaker 1: work on together. And here is the headline, and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to have you vote on this, and then it's
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Speaker 1: going to determine my future. Really, and the question is
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Speaker 1: going to be is it idiotic to be suspicious that
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Speaker 1: the NBA draft lottery is rigged? That's going to be
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Speaker 1: the question. And this might be the last time I
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Speaker 1: ever give this speech on the airwaves because for whatever.
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Speaker 1: So for thirty five years i've been in radio. Thirty
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Speaker 1: six actually I started when I was nineteen years old,
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Speaker 1: so thirty six years. For better than half of that,
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Speaker 1: I've done this. I think the NBA lottery is rigged.
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Speaker 1: So the NBA lottery has been around for forty years.
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Speaker 1: I've been questioning it for more than half of its existence.
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Speaker 1: I've been questioning it for more than half of my
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Speaker 1: existence on the airwaves. Everywhere I've ever been, my co
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Speaker 1: workers have gotten a kick out of it, whether they
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Speaker 1: agreed with me or not, because there's a little bit
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Speaker 1: of tongue in cheek, but very little. I do believe
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Speaker 1: that they rig the NBA lottery. That is that is,
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Speaker 1: that's fact. And so I've been doing this every year,
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Speaker 1: and usually whether you agree or disagree with me, people
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Speaker 1: that I work with find it amusing. They laugh at it,
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Speaker 1: or like my passion about it, or think it's interesting
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Speaker 1: because it's not like I'm just throwing it out there
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Speaker 1: without examples being given. But for whatever reason here at KJR,
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Speaker 1: my coworkers have had a problem with it. I remember
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Speaker 1: when Puck and I hosted, he did not like that
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Speaker 1: topic and he thought it was silly. I think Bucky
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Speaker 1: may have gotten come around to like, I see your
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Speaker 1: point of view. I just don't believe it, Ashley. I
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Speaker 1: think I've won over.
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Speaker 2: Yes you have, but apparently I have not.
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Speaker 1: Won over the Afternoon guys, including the including our QB one,
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Speaker 1: because they're now airing a promo about me being an
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Speaker 1: idiot for believing that the NBA lottery is rigged, and
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Speaker 1: they're laughing, they're having a grand old time about it,
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Speaker 1: and it just keeps airing over and over and over.
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Speaker 1: So what I'm going to do today is I'm going
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Speaker 1: to give my pitch, maybe for the last time. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to tell you where I'm coming from on this,
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Speaker 1: and then we're going to have you vote on that
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Speaker 1: question I started the segment with, and if I get
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Speaker 1: one more vote saying that I'm an idiot for thinking
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Speaker 1: the NBA lottery is rigged, then I will never bring
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Speaker 1: this topic back up again on our airwaves here at
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Speaker 1: kJ R. Okay, and I if I find out that
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Speaker 1: most people do find that they're suspicious about whether or
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Speaker 1: not the NBA Draft lottery is rigged, and they don't
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Speaker 1: count themselves as idiots for thinking so, then I will
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Speaker 1: refer to everybody that doesn't think the NBA lottery is
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Speaker 1: rigged as a gullible, naive fool from this day for
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Speaker 1: all right. So we're just gonna leave it to the
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Speaker 1: We're gonna leave it to the viewers on YouTube, the listeners,
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Speaker 1: whoever wants to vote. We're going to post that poll
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Speaker 1: in a moment. But first hear me out, because I
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Speaker 1: do want to give the speech, maybe for the last
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Speaker 1: and final time, because I do think, and that's very important,
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Speaker 1: I think the NBA lottery is rigged. I've never said
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Speaker 1: that it is. There's no way that I could ever
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Speaker 1: present to a radio audience or to my own radio
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Speaker 1: station try to play it off as fact. I just
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Speaker 1: think that it is. I'm not saying that there isn't
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Speaker 1: a great, sound, very rational argument against my admittedly bold take,
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Speaker 1: which I usually only use in a segment called reckless
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Speaker 1: at Breakfast, meaning I'm intentionally being bold and reckless in
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Speaker 1: that segment more so than normal. But to me, the
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Speaker 1: evidence for my argument is staggeringly suspicious over the years,
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Speaker 1: which is why half the players believe it. More than
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Speaker 1: half of the guys that were actually had the lottery
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Speaker 1: rig for them believe it, like fifty percent of the
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Speaker 1: people covered, and these are loosen them. I don't have facts,
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Speaker 1: factual numbers, like half the league people that cover the
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Speaker 1: league believe it. Certainly, I'm betting that more than half
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Speaker 1: of fans of the NBA believe it. And let's take
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Speaker 1: a look at the evidence. But before we get to
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Speaker 1: the evidence, I want to point out two things. Because
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Speaker 1: people tend to think that I believe it's rigged to
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Speaker 1: help big market clubs. No, No, We've got plenty of
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Speaker 1: evidence that suggests that is not true. What thin I
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Speaker 1: think the NBA does a great job of not making
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Speaker 1: it about the large markets. Baseball makes it about the
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Speaker 1: large markets. NBA, you know Lebron James and Cleveland and
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Speaker 1: Tim Duncan and San Antonio and you know Shack and
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Speaker 1: Orlando to start his career, eventually went to the Lakers,
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Speaker 1: but Shaq and Orlando to start his career, and so
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Speaker 1: I don't think this is about big markets. I do
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Speaker 1: believe though, it is about transitional players, transcendent players, generational players,
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Speaker 1: and then we have to support them with talent sooner
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Speaker 1: than later, and our best way of doing that is
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Speaker 1: to rig the lottery. So it's also not just about
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Speaker 1: number one picks, because the ping pong balls historically have
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Speaker 1: picked out the top three, and now we pick out
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Speaker 1: the top four. So it gives you a chance to
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Speaker 1: not necessarily rig it for number one. But where is
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Speaker 1: it written that it's not rigged so that you get
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Speaker 1: one of those top four picks that helps support a
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Speaker 1: superstar player so that we can put him in more
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Speaker 1: primetime games, so on and so forth. So let's run
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Speaker 1: through it, because the history of this thing is just
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Speaker 1: loaded with suspicion, going back to the very first one,
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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five Patrick, the whole point of the NBA
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Speaker 1: lottery system was because Ralph Sampson, prior to Patrick Ewing,
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Speaker 1: was causing NBA teams to tank and they were trying
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Speaker 1: to get seven foot four the Wimby before Wimby, Ralph
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Speaker 1: Sampson on their team, and so the NBA said, we
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Speaker 1: don't want that, we don't want that. Look, so they
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Speaker 1: created this lottery system and everybody had the exact same chances.
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Speaker 1: They put in one envelope per team that didn't make
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and back in those days, it was just
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Speaker 1: seven teams. So seven teams in a ping pong ball
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Speaker 1: hopper and then they would rotate it right there live
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Speaker 1: on the stage and David Stern would reach his hand
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Speaker 1: into the hopper and he would pull out one of
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Speaker 1: the envelopes and then he would then they would reveal them. Well,
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Speaker 1: the story is that one of them was frozen, so
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Speaker 1: David Stern would reach his hand in there, find the
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Speaker 1: frozen one. I don't remember if they went seven to
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Speaker 1: one or one to seven. I think it was one
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Speaker 1: to seven. He'd reach it in there and he would
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Speaker 1: feel around ntil they found the frozen one and he
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Speaker 1: would grab it out. And then that was the New
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Speaker 1: York Knicks because here was Patrick Ewing and the NBA
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Speaker 1: right out of the chute, decided, if we use a
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Speaker 1: lottery system, we can figure out where we want generational
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Speaker 1: players to land. And so that's how it all started.
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Speaker 1: That's where the suspicion started, and frankly, they've never died
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Speaker 1: over the years. But I'm not going to go through
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Speaker 1: the entire NBA Lottery history, but I am going to
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Speaker 1: go through the big names, the generational names, and then
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Speaker 1: you determine at the end of this whether or not
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Speaker 1: I'm crazy or an idiot, as the name callers have suggested,
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Speaker 1: and then if I am, I'll wear the idiot crowned
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Speaker 1: forever and I'll never bring this back up again. If not,
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Speaker 1: maybe somebody else has to wear the idiot crown. Fair enough, Okay,
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Speaker 1: So nineteen ninety two, Shaquille O'Neil the Orlando Magic had
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Speaker 1: a nine percent chance of getting the number one pick,
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Speaker 1: and they ended up getting it, being that they had
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Speaker 1: two new franchises and they wanted to get them going
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Speaker 1: because they were expanding quickly and they wanted to get
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Speaker 1: them going. So they ended up Orlando got one, Minnesota
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Speaker 1: got to but Orlando only had a nine percent chance
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Speaker 1: of getting that. And then there's now the now famous
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Speaker 1: story where Shaquille O'Neil believes David Stern had tipped him
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Speaker 1: off as to where he was going to go before
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Speaker 1: they even had so Shaquille O'Neill believes that it was
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Speaker 1: rigged for him to go to Orlando, So nine percent
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Speaker 1: chance they get it. But that's not even the one
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Speaker 1: I'm suspicious about. The one I'm suspicious about is the
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Speaker 1: very next year, the Magic with Shaquille O'Neill won the
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Speaker 1: lottery again, this time with a one point five percent
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Speaker 1: chance of winning the lottery. What did I say earlier?
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Speaker 1: It's not just about the number one pick. You then
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Speaker 1: have to get talent around him so that you can
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Speaker 1: take advantage of the players a popularity. And the only
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Speaker 1: way to do that is to have him worthy of
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Speaker 1: being put on big time marquee games and making the playoffs. Right,
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Speaker 1: That's the only way to get eyeballs on the product.
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Speaker 1: He got to marry the two together. So Chris Webber
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Speaker 1: was was the number one pick, and then they traded
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Speaker 1: him for Penny Hardaway famously, but they had a one
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Speaker 1: point five percent chance of winning the lottery again, and
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Speaker 1: they did it again. All right, So now let's skip
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Speaker 1: to nineteen ninety seven. Tim Duncan goes to the San
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Speaker 1: Antonio Spurs. Spurs had a twenty two percent chance of
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Speaker 1: winning That that's pretty significant chance. That's a one four
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Speaker 1: chance of winning the NBA lottery, right, Well, they won it.
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Speaker 1: Boston that year had a thirty six percent chance, so
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Speaker 1: they didn't have the highest percentage chance of getting Tim Duncan,
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Speaker 1: but they got him. And it just so happened that
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Speaker 1: year that the San Antonio Spurs were up for a
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Speaker 1: new stadium, and at that point, David Stern had not
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Speaker 1: lost a franchise and he was very proud of that.
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Speaker 1: He didn't want he hated franchise relocation, not on his watch.
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Speaker 1: So there is a theory that, and this isn't my
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Speaker 1: theory that I came up with, is that in order
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Speaker 1: to push that vote over so San Antonio would get
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Speaker 1: it stadium, that Tim Duncan and the Spurs needed to
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Speaker 1: win even though they had a fourteen percent less chance
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Speaker 1: of getting the number one pick than what the Boston
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Speaker 1: Celtics had. Here's another thing about it, David Robinson, the
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Speaker 1: Spurs were already good. The only reason they were in
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Speaker 1: position to get the number one pick is because David
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Speaker 1: Robinson was hurt the year before, so they only had
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Speaker 1: a six percent chance. See, he only played six games
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Speaker 1: that year, so you were adding Tim Duncan to David Robinson.
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Speaker 1: Now I get a chance to put Tim Duncan. They
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Speaker 1: get to be good immediately, David Robinson gets to be
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Speaker 1: better immediately, and I get to showcase these two guys
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Speaker 1: more regularly, and they became an instant hit right and
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Speaker 1: then went on to a dynastic run ultimately, at least
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Speaker 1: Duncan did. And so that was another suspicious one that
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Speaker 1: occurred back in nineteen ninety seven. Now let's go forward
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Speaker 1: to two thousand and three. The Ultimate Player was coming
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Speaker 1: out Lebron James. Cavaliers had a twenty two point five
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Speaker 1: percent chance of getting the number one pick. That was
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Speaker 1: the highest of any team out there, and they got
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Speaker 1: the number one pick. But what gets lost is there
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Speaker 1: was a seventy seven point five percent chance that he
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Speaker 1: wasn't going to be to the Cavaliers. The Cavaliers weren't
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Speaker 1: going to get him. So it was the field versus
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Speaker 1: the Cavaliers. So even though the Cavaliers were the most
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Speaker 1: likely seventy seven, it was far more likely that he
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Speaker 1: was going to go. It was three to one more
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Speaker 1: likely he was going to go to another team. Lebron
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Speaker 1: leaves in two thousand and ten after saving the Cavaliers franchise.
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Speaker 1: Then in twenty eleven, because Cleveland's beside itself with a
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Speaker 1: two point point eight percent chance, guess who wins the
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Speaker 1: NBA lottery. We'll look at that the Cleveland Cavaliers, and
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Speaker 1: so Kyrie Irving goes to the Cleveland Cavaliers a two
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Speaker 1: point eight percent chance top five picks. Again in twenty
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Speaker 1: thirteen and twenty fourteen, it's a fifteen hundred to one
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Speaker 1: chance that with their odds, the Cleveland Cavaliers would have
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Speaker 1: gotten the number one pick in the NBA lottery three
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Speaker 1: out of four years, fifteen hundred to one. And it
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Speaker 1: just so happened that Lebron James was going to return
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Speaker 1: to Cleveland, which many people believe was in the works
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Speaker 1: before his final year at Miami, that it had already
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Speaker 1: been decided, and lo and behold, in twenty thirteen, they
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Speaker 1: get the number one pick with us fifteen percent chance,
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Speaker 1: and then they got it again in twenty fourteen with
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Speaker 1: a fourteen percent chance. Then they took those two number
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Speaker 1: one picks and traded them for Kevin Love, and who
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Speaker 1: at that time was a star, maybe superstar, And now
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Speaker 1: you had Kyrie Kevin Love waiting for Lebron James on
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Speaker 1: his return to Cleveland. Individually, that might not be all
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Speaker 1: that suspicious, but when you start putting all the pieces together,
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Speaker 1: you start saying, man, what is going on here? Let's
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Speaker 1: go to twenty twenty three. That's the Victor wem mien
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Speaker 1: Yama draft. Fourteen percent chance that he was going to
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Speaker 1: San Antonio. That's tied for first. I mean because they
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Speaker 1: changed the rules, So fourteen percent chance he was going
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Speaker 1: to San Antonio. Just so happens, this precious commodity coming
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Speaker 1: over from France wanted to go to San Antonio. So
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Speaker 1: what happens? He goes to San Antonio, who knew still
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Speaker 1: an eighty six percent chance the field was going to
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Speaker 1: win against San Antonio and Victor being able to get
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Speaker 1: married just because Victor wanted to. And yet wembin Yama
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Speaker 1: lands with the Spurs. But that's not the end. They
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Speaker 1: ended up the very next year getting one of those
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Speaker 1: top four picks, and then the year after that got
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Speaker 1: a second pick in the draft. So they defied the
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Speaker 1: lottery odds three years in a row to surround Victor
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Speaker 1: wim min Yama with the talent to make them what
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Speaker 1: you now see before you. They also grabbed the Aaron
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Speaker 1: Fox and a very strange trade that nobody could believe
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Speaker 1: Sacramento pulled.
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Speaker 2: Hmm.
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Speaker 1: Then you go to twenty twenty five and that was
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Speaker 1: the Luka Doncic fallout. Why did the Dallas Mavericks just
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Speaker 1: trade their best player to the Lakers with that week
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Speaker 1: of a return, without shopping him, without being known that
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Speaker 1: he was going to be traded, because they could have
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Speaker 1: really driven up the price on a commodity like Luka Doncic.
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Speaker 2: Million dollar question.
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Speaker 1: Once again, Lebron James is in Los Angeles, he's our
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Speaker 1: biggest face. Put the two together. But when we got
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Speaker 1: to scratch Dallas's back, still people lived with that mystery.
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Speaker 1: Why why would Dallas do this? And with a one
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Speaker 1: point eight percent chance the Dallas Mavericks won the NBA lottery,
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Speaker 1: are you at least suspicious that maybe they worked out
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Speaker 1: a deal will trade Luca to the Lakers so you
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Speaker 1: can team him with Lebron in LA and give Lebron
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Speaker 1: the hand off baton carrier of the torch into the future.
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Speaker 1: But you got to give us some special give us
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Speaker 1: the Cooper flag number one pick in twenty nineteen. Last
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Speaker 1: one July of twenty nineteen, This wasn't the first time
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Speaker 1: they'd done this. Anthony Davis was mysteriously traded to the Lakers,
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Speaker 1: the team with Lebron in his prime, and everybody at
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Speaker 1: that point was like, why on earth would they consider that? Well,
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Speaker 1: it just so happened that a month before that trade,
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Speaker 1: the New Orleans Pelicans won the NBA lottery with a
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Speaker 1: six percent chance, took Zion Williamson, and then traded Anthony
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Speaker 1: Davis to the Lakers. I'm not saying it's rigged, I
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Speaker 1: really am not. But after that, that's just that's just
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Speaker 1: a handful of players. How could you not be suspicious
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Speaker 1: that it's rigged. So if I'm an idiot, which I've
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Speaker 1: been accused of being, well, I mean the argument that
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Speaker 1: has been made against me is that why would the
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Speaker 1: NBA risk so much to create this? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Why would politicians get involved in organized crime? Why would
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Speaker 1: billionaire companies be found guilty of investing in terrible things.
18:44
Speaker 1: We have a food and Drug administration right now. There's
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Speaker 1: an investigation going on that maybe we've been poisoned our
18:51
Speaker 1: entire lives by food companies in order for the drug
18:55
Speaker 1: companies to take care of us. Because they're making us
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Speaker 1: sick and then trying to keep us with our food.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if that's true, but if our
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Speaker 1: government rubber stamps that, then why wouldn't we think a
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Speaker 1: both a billion dollar company like the NBA wouldn't try
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Speaker 1: to get whimby to the spurs. That's not that outlandish.
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's idiotic to be suspicious of that.
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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I don't know. Maybe you
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Speaker 1: should take your idiot arm and grab your idiot mirror
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Speaker 1: and press your idiot face into the reflective part, the
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Speaker 1: shiny part of the mirror, and tell me what you see.
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Speaker 1: I have a feeling there's a team full of idiots
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Speaker 1: somewhere at an idiot conference in an idiot city, inside
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Speaker 1: an idiot hotel, and they're having an idiot meeting while
19:47
Speaker 1: drinking idiot drinks and eating idiot food, and they're trying
19:50
Speaker 1: to determine what is a word stronger than idiot that
19:54
Speaker 1: we could call the person that's not suspicious of what
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Speaker 1: the NBA Lottery is doing. And once we' find out
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Speaker 1: what that word is, that's what that reflection in that
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Speaker 1: mirror is looking at. That's what you are if I'm
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Speaker 1: an idiot. Let's vote. Want to vote? Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 1: let's vote. So again, you vote. Is it idiotic to
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Speaker 1: be suspicious of the NBA draft? Yes? Or no? Ashley's
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Speaker 1: gonna post it up. If it's more than fifty percent,
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Speaker 1: that's the last time I ever give that speech, and
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Speaker 1: I will wear the idiot crown when it comes to
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Speaker 1: the NBA Lottery forever. If not, I'm gonna keep on going. Huh,
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Speaker 1: keep preaching the gospel, all right? Coming up next on
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Speaker 1: the radio program around of Sup we need your questions
20:44
Speaker 1: at four nine, four five one. But right now, a
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Speaker 1: PGA update from Philadelphia. Up, Ashley. Oh, how's your friend
20:51
Speaker 1: Derek faring today at the PGA Championship.
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Speaker 3: Well, I will say it was a little rough going
20:55
Speaker 3: on the front on this. Well, he started off on
20:57
Speaker 3: the back nine, but his first nine standable. First time
21:00
Speaker 3: in the PGA Championship, I imagine nerves played a.
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Speaker 2: Part of it.
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Speaker 1: Most nervous day of his life ever, and for.
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Speaker 3: Great reason went to the back nine hole one birdie,
21:10
Speaker 3: nice par on whole two, and he just piped it
21:13
Speaker 3: straight down the middle on whole three.
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Speaker 2: So let's go Derek getting.
21:17
Speaker 1: His legs underneath him. No more knocking knees and more,
21:20
Speaker 1: no more, no longer intimidated by Scotty Scheffler. Who are
21:23
Speaker 1: you h?
21:23
Speaker 2: He's like, I know this course.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
21:25
Speaker 3: And that's the other thing about Derek too, his positioning
21:27
Speaker 3: where he's playing. He's got big groups in front of
21:29
Speaker 3: him and in back of him, so there's quite a
21:32
Speaker 3: crowd there to be watching.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we could understand why he would be incredibly nervous.
21:36
Speaker 3: I'm nervous and I'm not even playing it or even
21:40
Speaker 3: in the vicinity.
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Speaker 1: You've been nervous all morning long? Yeah for him? Well good,
21:44
Speaker 1: all right, Well let's get to the text line. What
21:46
Speaker 1: are people have today?
21:47
Speaker 2: All right, we've got sup Chuck. Are you a dog
21:49
Speaker 2: or cat person? And why or why not?
21:52
Speaker 1: I'm really turned soft as softy when it comes to
21:55
Speaker 1: just animals in general late in my life. I give
21:58
Speaker 1: the Unicorn credit for that kind of opening my eyes
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Speaker 1: to some stuff. So I'm definitely dog a dog person.
22:04
Speaker 1: I'm more of a dog person now by a thousand
22:07
Speaker 1: times than I ever was now that I've had a dog,
22:10
Speaker 1: and we have dogs right now, So I'm more of
22:12
Speaker 1: a dog person for sure. But I gotta be on
22:15
Speaker 1: I think maybe a little kiddy is even cut than
22:17
Speaker 1: a puppy.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they are so cute.
22:20
Speaker 1: They're so cute.
22:21
Speaker 2: They're a little nubbin pause.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. So I never really was a cat person
22:24
Speaker 1: at all, but I mean there's room in this heart
22:27
Speaker 1: for all animals.
22:28
Speaker 2: I love that. Good for you, including elk, including elk. Yeah,
22:34
Speaker 2: Bucky Yeah.
22:36
Speaker 3: How about this one from the two five to three
22:38
Speaker 3: sub idiots after hearing Shack's story, it would be malpractice
22:41
Speaker 3: not to be suspicious. Thanks from your number one idiot.
22:46
Speaker 1: And one thing I didn't get into that was elaborate.
22:49
Speaker 1: I wanted to elaborate a little bit more because the
22:52
Speaker 1: argument against me that was posed last year was why
22:55
Speaker 1: would they risk that? In essence, there's no way that
22:58
Speaker 1: they could get get away with that, and if they didn't,
23:01
Speaker 1: I mean, they could undermine the entire league, certainly the commissioner,
23:04
Speaker 1: all of that sort of thing. And my response to
23:06
Speaker 1: that is, there are a lot of people with a
23:08
Speaker 1: lot at stake. We have politicians who are public servants
23:12
Speaker 1: that fed us aligne to vote for them, and that
23:15
Speaker 1: we put our trust in, and then we find out
23:17
Speaker 1: that they're involved in all sorts of illegalities we've had
23:20
Speaker 1: presidents with mob ties for goodness sake, And if we've
23:24
Speaker 1: got billionaires who were willing to risk it all because
23:27
Speaker 1: they've got good enough lawyers and they put enough distance
23:30
Speaker 1: between themselves and the crimes that make them an extra
23:33
Speaker 1: billion that year. And there are all sorts of billionaires
23:36
Speaker 1: out there with some really nasty rumors about them these days.
23:41
Speaker 1: If they're willing to risk it, then is it that
23:43
Speaker 1: out of the question that a multi billion dollar company
23:47
Speaker 1: would put enough distance between themselves and the actions of
23:52
Speaker 1: perhaps rigging some things about the lottery so they could
23:55
Speaker 1: get their most impactful players to the right situations, and
23:59
Speaker 1: they're for them to flourish and for them to market
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Speaker 1: around him. I just don't think that's crazy much less idiotic.
24:05
Speaker 2: I get it. I get it.
24:07
Speaker 3: Sub Ashley from the two five three? What's your favorite
24:10
Speaker 3: food if you get to have dinner yourself with no
24:12
Speaker 3: one else around?
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Speaker 2: Well, that's it's an easy question, an easy one.
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Speaker 3: Yes. Every time five Iron goes out of town, I
24:18
Speaker 3: make one of two things. Avocado toast with Hollandais or
24:24
Speaker 3: Indian food.
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Speaker 1: You make it? Yes, you know how to make Indian Yeah?
24:28
Speaker 3: And I because especially like I love chicken teaka masala,
24:31
Speaker 3: but I can't buy it in a restaurant because it
24:32
Speaker 3: has cream in it, but if I use my dairy
24:34
Speaker 3: free cream. So my mom was staying with us this
24:36
Speaker 3: week because Five Irons in Philly, and we made that
24:39
Speaker 3: and had it for dinner last night or Monday night
24:42
Speaker 3: and Tuesday night because we had leftovers.
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Speaker 2: And it is my favorite.
24:45
Speaker 1: That is your favorite? Sood couple of favorite crave.
24:50
Speaker 2: Well, because it's two things that Five Iron doesn't.
24:52
Speaker 3: He won't eat Indian food and he doesn't smell yes,
24:55
Speaker 3: and he doesn't really care about avocado toasts. So it's
24:58
Speaker 3: just one that's easy and I like it, and Palmer
25:01
Speaker 3: the Great also likes it, which is helpful.
25:03
Speaker 2: And then the Indian food, it's just yeah, he hates it.
25:06
Speaker 3: So I'm like, if he's gone, and he's gone for
25:09
Speaker 3: multiple days, then I will cook it and then get
25:11
Speaker 3: the smell out of it.
25:11
Speaker 1: What do you race to go eat out? If he's gone?
25:15
Speaker 2: What do I eat out?
25:16
Speaker 1: That's my first thing. I'm not thinking about making something
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Speaker 1: for myself. I'm looking like what gluten can I shove
25:23
Speaker 1: in my face?
25:24
Speaker 2: I don't know what I eat out.
25:25
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm always pizza because you know, we found a
25:29
Speaker 1: couple of gluten free pizzas because she's Sea Lac and
25:31
Speaker 1: so I don't put it in the house because I've
25:32
Speaker 1: seen her suffer from it. But when she's not there,
25:37
Speaker 1: it's like, where do you get pizza from? Gluten free pizza? Well,
25:39
Speaker 1: I'll just go with whatever's close around there, because we
25:42
Speaker 1: have like a ballad pizza company close to us.
25:44
Speaker 2: I do love when someone else makes me a pasta dish.
25:47
Speaker 3: Oh but and then yeah, all right, what else we go?
25:52
Speaker 3: Let's see, we've got to sup Chuck. Given you've got
25:56
Speaker 3: Arizona ties, what are your thoughts on Tucson. I'm contemplating
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Speaker 3: moving there in the not too distanc in future.
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Speaker 1: I didn't spend a lot of time in Tucson. What
26:03
Speaker 1: little time I spent there, it felt very dusty to me,
26:07
Speaker 1: far more than even Phoenix, because I don't know if
26:10
Speaker 1: I ever living in Phoenix for fifteen years ever felt like, Man,
26:12
Speaker 1: I feel like dusty, Like you would go out and
26:15
Speaker 1: you feel like you were covered in dust. And I
26:18
Speaker 1: think that's just there's less infrastructure there and more desert,
26:22
Speaker 1: and so you don't have the obstacles in your way.
26:24
Speaker 1: But that's kind of the way I felt. People that
26:27
Speaker 1: live in Phoenix don't really like Tucson too much. Now
26:30
Speaker 1: there's a rivalry that maybe that has to do with
26:34
Speaker 1: yeh Unicorn lived in Tucson. She liked it, so certainly there.
26:38
Speaker 1: I don't care where you go, wherever you move to.
26:41
Speaker 1: If you can't find something you like about it, then
26:43
Speaker 1: I feel bad for you. So there's enough about Tucson
26:46
Speaker 1: that you should be able to like gravitate toward. It's
26:49
Speaker 1: going to be hot, it's going to be dusty, just
26:51
Speaker 1: warn you, but you're gonna have the best Mexican food
26:54
Speaker 1: of your entire life.
26:55
Speaker 2: Oh I do love that. I do love that, all right, sup?
26:58
Speaker 2: Chuck and Ashley. When is an ex up time.
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Speaker 3: To start tailgating on Christmas Day? I say, anytime afternoon.
27:05
Speaker 1: What a phenomenal question. I should have thought of that myself.
27:10
Speaker 2: You gotta do Christmas morning with a family, that's the
27:12
Speaker 2: big thing.
27:12
Speaker 1: So unless you do a first Christmas tailgate with the
27:15
Speaker 1: family like you can start in the morning. Like Christmas
27:18
Speaker 1: presents can be opened on the tailgate this.
27:21
Speaker 2: Year they could be.
27:22
Speaker 3: But if your family's not all going to the game,
27:24
Speaker 3: they might give you dirty looks.
27:26
Speaker 1: But what if it's the theme for this My family
27:28
Speaker 1: always has a theme to Christmas.
27:30
Speaker 3: Well, five Iron does love a theme. Every time we
27:32
Speaker 3: go to a wedding. He goes, well, what's the theme?
27:34
Speaker 3: I said, two people getting married? That's the theme.
27:36
Speaker 1: What if you put the Christmas tree in the back
27:39
Speaker 1: of a truck and then you all went to the
27:41
Speaker 1: tail brought down the tailgate, and you open your gifts
27:44
Speaker 1: out there and started your party.
27:45
Speaker 2: Well, it'll probably be raining, so I'll probably be angry.
27:48
Speaker 1: Uh what time should you start tailgating? Oh?
27:51
Speaker 2: Boy, that's on Christmas Day. It's got to be a
27:53
Speaker 2: little later.
27:53
Speaker 3: You can't, I'd say at the earliest.
27:57
Speaker 1: But if you don't have like but if.
27:59
Speaker 3: You don't have family to worry about them, yeah, I mean,
28:01
Speaker 3: then why limit yourself go down there at nine?
28:04
Speaker 1: I would go nine the night before so you can
28:06
Speaker 1: wake up on Christmas Day tailgating.
28:08
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a Christmas present.
28:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, see what Sannah brought you? Oh look, I love Santa.
28:20
Speaker 2: Chuck.
28:20
Speaker 3: Why do you care about the NFL schedule so much?
28:23
Speaker 3: Is it possible to go one week in the off
28:25
Speaker 3: season without talking about the NFL?
28:26
Speaker 2: I don't think This is a Chuck problem, right.
28:28
Speaker 1: Not any problem. I think the NFL schedule's way overdone.
28:32
Speaker 1: But my problem is because I go so hard on
28:35
Speaker 1: the draft, I can't neglect those who love NFL schedule
28:40
Speaker 1: week so much. So I prefer just to get the schedule,
28:44
Speaker 1: do a little half day of reacting on Friday. But
28:47
Speaker 1: there's such an appetite for it. I mean, my job
28:50
Speaker 1: is not necessarily to bring up things that I want
28:53
Speaker 1: to talk about. My job is to try to figure
28:56
Speaker 1: out what are good topics for the average person and
29:00
Speaker 1: tuning in so I can't neglect the fever that the
29:04
Speaker 1: football fan has for the schedule and all the nitty
29:07
Speaker 1: gritty aspects of it. So whatever you hear me doing
29:10
Speaker 1: that you think is overdone, it is a service to
29:13
Speaker 1: those who are thirsty for it. Well.
29:16
Speaker 3: And also the NFL makes sure that you could not
29:18
Speaker 3: go because this Texas.
29:19
Speaker 2: Is it possible to go one week in the off
29:21
Speaker 2: season without talking about the NFL. No, it is not possible.
29:24
Speaker 3: It is not possible to go a day usually without
29:27
Speaker 3: bringing up the NFL in some way, because especially it
29:30
Speaker 3: is so important to our listeners.
29:31
Speaker 2: You got to work it into one segment.
29:32
Speaker 3: But the NFL makes it impossible to ignore it for
29:35
Speaker 3: a week.
29:35
Speaker 2: Are you kidding?
29:36
Speaker 1: I think the only stretch we have is after OTAs. Yeah,
29:41
Speaker 1: until training camp. There's about a month where you know
29:44
Speaker 1: we are you know, we don't have to do it
29:46
Speaker 1: every day. We don't do it every day. But if
29:48
Speaker 1: some pops up, we do it. That's just that's the king.
29:50
Speaker 1: That's all there is to it.
29:51
Speaker 3: Yeah, last one here from the two five three step
29:54
Speaker 3: Ash tell us about water polo. Well, you swim and
29:57
Speaker 3: tread water for the entirety of the game and have
30:01
Speaker 3: people climbing on you, scratching you, punching you, and throw ball.
30:04
Speaker 2: That's water polo in a nutshell.
30:08
Speaker 1: I think we need to spend some time on this
30:10
Speaker 1: because that's in a nutshell. But I I don't like soccer.
30:17
Speaker 1: I would, I know, like soccer if I grew up
30:20
Speaker 1: with it like I did with baseball, and I understood
30:22
Speaker 1: all the nitty gritty aspects of it, if I could
30:25
Speaker 1: have come to get a good appreciation for some of
30:29
Speaker 1: the skill that's on display, because to me, it looks
30:32
Speaker 1: like you're just playing keep away, right, and it's pretty boring.
30:37
Speaker 1: Actually it's really boring. But for those that grew up with.
30:40
Speaker 1: I know, I know people have said that about baseball,
30:42
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't mind baseball boring at all
30:45
Speaker 1: if I knew it better. But I have gone. I
30:47
Speaker 1: have seen water polo at the Olympics. It is an
30:50
Speaker 1: event that I have attended in person. Water polo at
30:53
Speaker 1: the Olympics wasn't even the US, it was Poland versus Italy. Oh,
30:57
Speaker 1: and it's a good matchup. I enjoyed my time there.
31:00
Speaker 1: But and I kind of got the gist of how
31:02
Speaker 1: the game works and how difficult it is to play,
31:07
Speaker 1: But I don't understand any of the intricacies. Maybe we
31:09
Speaker 1: should have like a study session.
31:12
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be happy to help, happy to help.
31:14
Speaker 1: But yeah, do different players have different roles? Do you
31:16
Speaker 1: have different positions?
31:18
Speaker 2: Correct, Yes, you do.
31:19
Speaker 3: You have a whole set in the middle, You've got wings,
31:22
Speaker 3: you've got flats, and you've got point.
31:24
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, exactly.
31:25
Speaker 3: See, so yeah, everybody has positions and then you're it
31:27
Speaker 3: all runs through the whole set in the middle, and
31:29
Speaker 3: you've got people on the flat and the point trying
31:33
Speaker 3: to drive down and you're swapping, so you're trying to
31:35
Speaker 3: create the open position. I will say, versus soccer, you
31:37
Speaker 3: get more goals scored in waterpolo than you do in soccer.
31:40
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed it. I didn't really know exactly
31:44
Speaker 1: what was happening, but I did enjoy it. So maybe
31:47
Speaker 1: we should do it tomorrow because Pucky will crap all over. Yeah,
31:51
Speaker 1: well probably all right, coming up next, Thank you very
31:54
Speaker 1: much for your questions. Tomorrow. By the way, we'll play
31:57
Speaker 1: a round of suck with you. So so we'll do
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Speaker 1: that on tomorrow's radio program. Coming up next, the latest
32:04
Speaker 1: on cal Raleigh as we've heard, and what the team
32:07
Speaker 1: should do going forward with number twenty nine Sports Radio
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Speaker 1: ninety three point three kJ R FM, Rick new Isel
32:24
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. Just wanted to check in with him.
32:27
Speaker 1: You know, we miss him in the off season and
32:29
Speaker 1: he's he's got a new job this summer or spring.
32:32
Speaker 1: I should say, see how that's going. See the latest
32:36
Speaker 1: thoughts on college football, and so we're gonna chat with
32:39
Speaker 1: coach new Isole at nine o'clock today plus your cash
32:41
Speaker 1: word of course. A Mariner's losing to the Houston Astros
32:45
Speaker 1: last night four to three. I'm watching the replay right now, Ashley,
32:48
Speaker 1: and they're I mean, Mariners are up. It's the fourth inning,
32:51
Speaker 1: middle of the fourth inning, Bryce or into the fourth inning.
32:53
Speaker 1: Brice just got through the fourth throwing a shutout.
32:57
Speaker 2: Oh do you think they're gonna win?
32:59
Speaker 1: Teams up on too nothing? Kyl just challenged a call
33:03
Speaker 1: right by the narrowest of margins. And then Cal just
33:07
Speaker 1: his fate. He looks healthy, face so full of hope,
33:10
Speaker 1: like he think, can't wait for his next it bad
33:12
Speaker 1: as opposed to dreading it. Uh. And then all of
33:15
Speaker 1: a sudden, at some point in the game yesterday, everything
33:18
Speaker 1: went south for the Mariners and for cal Ralegh. Frankly,
33:22
Speaker 1: he missed a challenge. Later he heard his side again,
33:26
Speaker 1: he threw. Uh. He slipped on a really important moment
33:30
Speaker 1: in the game. He didn't get another hit the rest
33:32
Speaker 1: of the way. I mean, how did that happen?
33:36
Speaker 2: I don't know. I wish I had an answer. Frustrating?
33:39
Speaker 1: Are you too? Where's I had an answer? Mariner's playing
33:43
Speaker 1: again today, and they will play in a couple of hours.
33:47
Speaker 1: Try to make it three out of four. Cal's not
33:50
Speaker 1: in the lineup, Mitch is getting the start behind the plate.
33:53
Speaker 1: Can Zone's dhing today against the right hander in Mike
33:56
Speaker 1: Burrows hard not to read into. It could be just hey,
34:02
Speaker 1: fourth day of a you know, road trip. You don't
34:05
Speaker 1: have a day off this week. But when you saw
34:07
Speaker 1: the grimace last night to the side and then he
34:09
Speaker 1: removed himself from the game, has a little bit to
34:13
Speaker 1: do with that, right, And you know, maybe Greg's right,
34:17
Speaker 1: Maybe Softie last night was right. Maybe what was it
34:21
Speaker 1: Ellie Ella Ella La? Maybe Ella from Palmer the Great
34:25
Speaker 1: Softball Team is right. Maybe it's just time to give
34:28
Speaker 1: him ten days off. But it needs a rest about
34:31
Speaker 1: You are so anxious to get him on track because
34:36
Speaker 1: it feels like that unlocks the season we were all
34:40
Speaker 1: waiting for twenty one and twenty three right now. I
34:43
Speaker 1: don't know how that game got away from them last night,
34:45
Speaker 1: but it did. But it just doesn't it not feel
34:49
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong, does not feel that we're
34:51
Speaker 1: Cal being back to Cal away from being the team
34:54
Speaker 1: that we thought they were going to be this year.
34:56
Speaker 2: It's absolutely how it feels.
34:57
Speaker 3: And so then, yeah, it was frustrating last night on
34:59
Speaker 3: so many different levels because you'd had that promising game
35:04
Speaker 3: and the offense just was awesome, and Cal had a
35:08
Speaker 3: good game and things were looking up, and then we
35:11
Speaker 3: got Bryce Miller back, and so we're like, OK, yeah, exactly,
35:16
Speaker 3: and then it just it was as you said earlier,
35:18
Speaker 3: it was like a tale of two games.
35:20
Speaker 2: You had that delay and.
35:21
Speaker 3: Then everything went to the down the crapper Mmm, going
35:25
Speaker 3: with a poop theme if you hadn't noticed, I.
35:28
Speaker 1: Get it, though, I get why you would associate poop
35:30
Speaker 1: with what we watched last night. But but even he
35:34
Speaker 1: had a night where it's like so full of promise
35:36
Speaker 1: and we're like, all right, Cal's back. Oh, I know
35:38
Speaker 1: he went over one. Oh I know he went over too.
35:40
Speaker 1: But it's fine, it's fine. He's catching a shutout right now.
35:44
Speaker 1: Bryce is in control of this sucker. He looks great,
35:46
Speaker 1: he looks healthy, and then all of a sudden he
35:48
Speaker 1: didn't and then he's missing challenges and then he went
35:50
Speaker 1: over four and then uh, and then he comes out
35:54
Speaker 1: of the game and he slips on the home near
35:56
Speaker 1: home play all. It just unraveled last night. So maybe
36:01
Speaker 1: that is the better course. Just give him ten days rest,
36:05
Speaker 1: don't give him the opportunity to come and say that
36:08
Speaker 1: he's good to go and wants to.
36:10
Speaker 2: Play that try to play through it all.
36:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just been the whole year's been out
36:15
Speaker 1: of whack. I mean, going all the way back to
36:16
Speaker 1: the WBC that was out of whack for him. Spring
36:19
Speaker 1: training was out of whack for him, and he obviously
36:21
Speaker 1: hasn't got on track this year as a hitter, and
36:25
Speaker 1: so I don't know, maybe ten days to get him
36:29
Speaker 1: on whack.
36:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get him in whack on whack.
36:32
Speaker 3: I mean, especially they kind of were it half in,
36:35
Speaker 3: half out with this oblique injury to start with, like, oh,
36:37
Speaker 3: we don't know what we're gonna do, we'll see, we're
36:39
Speaker 3: just feeling it out. Well, okay, but do you want
36:42
Speaker 3: to keep doing that all year? Because clearly he wasn't
36:44
Speaker 3: okay last night when he's grimacing and touching his side,
36:48
Speaker 3: I mean making cal is a tough mffort. Yes, if
36:51
Speaker 3: he's grimacing and touching his side, you know there's some
36:53
Speaker 3: serious pain there.
36:54
Speaker 2: He's not just doing that for show.
36:56
Speaker 1: And this is not a team that is only cal Raley,
37:00
Speaker 1: let's face it. I mean, he hasn't really contributed much
37:02
Speaker 1: offensively so far this year and we're having around five hundred.
37:06
Speaker 1: Julio's going a little bit. Josh has obviously come out
37:09
Speaker 1: of his early season, funk Randy's having a heck of
37:12
Speaker 1: a year. Luke's having a heck of a year. We
37:14
Speaker 1: have enough to support him not being out right. Yeah,
37:18
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not gonna fall apart if cal Raley
37:21
Speaker 1: in has won sixty six lineup average is not in
37:24
Speaker 1: the lineup.
37:24
Speaker 2: Right now, and this is the time to do it.
37:26
Speaker 1: And you brought back Mitch Garvery because he has such
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Speaker 1: a good relationship. And it doesn't stand out to me
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Speaker 1: that the pitchers struggle with Mitch behind the plate. I
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Speaker 1: think that they have a really good relation, working relationship
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Speaker 1: with him. He's not as good as throwing out runners,
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Speaker 1: that's for sure, but I mean he's not I mean,
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Speaker 1: they're both hitting one sixty, right.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, we gotta give him credit for
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Speaker 2: that bat in the.
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Speaker 1: Ninth and year.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 1: That's true, So maybe that is Maybe that's just what
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Speaker 1: you gotta do. And even if that's overkill, just to
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Speaker 1: protect him from himself full cal. You know, ten days
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Speaker 1: he gets back, he still got over one hundred games
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Speaker 1: to prove. Your best team in the American League West,
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