Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / How a House Swap Sparked a Bourbon Brand – Fernhill Station
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- 0:00Incredible flavours, even better stories.
- 0:05One pour, 10 minutes.
- 0:07Aussie bourbon lovers sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:13That's such a good caught pop.
- 0:16I'm so excited, Hedges.
- 0:18We got James Summerland back from the Mount Pleasant Whisky Club project
- 0:23with the Fern Hill Station bottle.
- 0:25It's a single cask, straight bourbon whiskey, which is coming out of DC.
- 0:28We spoke about this a little ago.
- 0:30It's such a cool project that we've got.
- 0:32What is probably the first truly Aussie, but still- It's like an Aussie bourbon.
- 0:36Absolutely a bourbon. But it's a bourbon.
- 0:37But it's like an Aussie bourbon.
- 0:40Very fascinating that we're able to get to this.
- 0:43So congratulations on the project, James. So good.
- 0:45Thank you.
- 0:46Last time, we spoke a lot about the dram itself, but we didn't talk too
- 0:50much about the story, which is just a cracker.
- 0:53Tell us, how did this project come to be?
- 0:55What happened that led you to the point of having this delicious bourbon in a glass?
- 1:00So my wife and I obviously have a house.
- 1:03It's our biggest asset.
- 1:05And a long time ago, she thought, well, how do we get the most out of this?
- 1:10Well, let's swap houses on holidays.
- 1:14So she joined a website called People Like Us, and we wanted to go to DC.
- 1:19I've always wanted to go DC.
- 1:20And she found a swap.
- 1:24So Troy and his partner, Tony, they wanted to come to Australia.
- 1:30We hooked it up.
- 1:31We're about to fly out, and Tony messages to say, Hi, I've realised
- 1:38James owns a bar.
- 1:39Well, Troy has a bourbon business, so he's left you some samples.
- 1:46We got there.
- 1:48I arrived in DC, like 36 hours.
- 1:51Yeah, it's a long flight.
- 1:53We went the long way as well.
- 1:56Then I tasted it.
- 2:00I'd never been into it.
- 2:01I tasted this and I thought, Hang on, just throw the Scotch whiskies out.
- 2:08I can relate.
- 2:11That was it.
- 2:12We spent time in Mount Pleasant I guess why this exists, Mount Pleasant
- 2:21Club Whisky, it's made through Troy and John's company called Reboot Beverages.
- 2:28They basically took the old label of Mount Pleasant
- 2:32because they actually found a bottle in the house during a renovation, an
- 2:36old bottle from pre Prohibition.
- 2:38That's incredible.
- 2:39And you can actually see it on the book. There you go.
- 2:42Yeah. Amazing.
- 2:44And they thought, Let's bring this back.
- 2:48So they selected their barrels and they brought it back.
- 2:53They called it Mount Pleasant Club Whisky.
- 2:56They've honoured all the streets of their suburb.
- 3:00What was important was actually quite funny.
- 3:03We got locked out of their house one day. Oh, no.
- 3:06We came back.
- 3:08The electric door wasn't working.
- 3:10We're trying to contact them in Australia.
- 3:13Different time zones. Yes.
- 3:15We waited in the park a while, but it was no stress.
- 3:20Eventually, they said, We're going to send John, who's my business partner in Reboot,
- 3:25he'll come around and help get you in, which was break the window.
- 3:31And it was just chatting to him once we got in.
- 3:35We had a quick beer together, a little bourbon, and I just said,
- 3:40Why don't I have this in Australia?
- 3:43Why am I…?
- 3:44And there's a price point, right?
- 3:46I look at your top level of your gin beans or your wild turkeys.
- 3:54In the gifting range, in the restaurant range, you start cap
- 3:58out 140 a at all, 150.
- 4:03But then you want to go and find something else really special.
- 4:06You got to jump a long way to $600.
- 4:10There's big price tags. Right.
- 4:13And I thought, we need a premium product in Australia, independent Kraft.
- 4:21And I thought, well, let's do it.
- 4:26Yes. So good.
- 4:27I'll go and get a licence.
- 4:29I I thought I had the paperwork.
- 4:32Because even when you do the house swap, so you have a little bar in Sydney.
- 4:39In Hudson Park. In Hulson Park.
- 4:42And he had an already existing bourbon business.
- 4:45But then there's so many more themes that run through this story because
- 4:49they love celebrating the local streets.
- 4:52That's how they name their whiskies.
- 4:53And you, as such a locally focused venue at HP Bolo.
- 4:58Yes, we live in Hulson Park.
- 5:00We have our business in Hulston Park.
- 5:03My business partner, I went to school with.
- 5:05He owns a cafe next door.
- 5:07He lives in Hulston Park.
- 5:09We went to Holston Ag High School in Western Sydney.
- 5:14So we love the community.
- 5:17And I thought, Well, let's celebrate Hilton Park.
- 5:22Dimitri is a Ukrainian artist who came to Australia 20, 30 years ago,
- 5:27and he got us the Artwork for it.
- 5:31Stunning artwork.
- 5:32It's a beautiful bottle, too.
- 5:34I love the wide sides.
- 5:36Yeah.
- 5:37And the New South Wales and DC flag on the tag.
- 5:41The fun of it was selecting everything.
- 5:44Do you want a wood top?
- 5:47What colour foil do you want?
- 5:48Yeah, all the little details.
- 5:51Writing the story, selecting the artwork, scaling the artwork, what to call it.
- 6:00Pick a name.
- 6:02Who got the final say of the liquid that went in the bottle?
- 6:06I picked the barrel.
- 6:09Through six samples that got sent here, we selected one blind.
- 6:17We all agreed on the same one.
- 6:20Then they sent me some more samples of that barrel.
- 6:23We cut it down, different ABVs, selected blind, the same 50.
- 6:297.
- 6:32So there were all decisions we had to go through.
- 6:34It was time.
- 6:35It was little samples turning up in the mail called olive oil.
- 6:42Love it.
- 6:42Yeah, or you could just confuse it for olive oil until you put it in a glass.
- 6:46Actually, speaking of that, the more time this spends in a glass,
- 6:50getting a bit of air on it.
- 6:52I'm getting these lovely Christmas spicy notes, a bit of almost
- 6:58Christmas pudding-y notes from it.
- 7:00But before we started recording, you told us that you got some interesting notes the
- 7:04more you sit with it that link back to when you were a bit younger.
- 7:09Yeah, well, smell is your strongest sense.
- 7:12I was sitting down one night and, hang on, shearing shed.
- 7:19But the memory was shearing shed, but the oil was lanolin.
- 7:23Yeah, it's that oiliness that gives it that really smooth finish.
- 7:26Beautiful smooth finish.
- 7:28It's got quite a bit of hard red winter wheat.
- 7:31So make his mark bang on about this soft red winter wheat, but this is a hard red
- 7:35winter wheat, so a different variety of that.
- 7:37I agree with you that there is a lovely bit of wheatiness that comes through both
- 7:41on the nose and then on the palate as well.
- 7:43I feel like it's a cross between.
- 7:45It's like my farm where I grew up was sheep and wheat,
- 7:49and I feel like it's this in a glass.
- 7:52Since you've said the lanylin thing, now all I can think about is what it
- 7:56smells like at your family farm.
- 7:58Now you've said this, it's going to stick with me.
- 8:00There's a very earthy, warming.
- 8:04I think this is a big hug.
- 8:06I just love the beautiful smooth finish.
- 8:09That's what I got from the first bottle I tasted, the Brown Street Bourbon,
- 8:15my all-time favourite still.
- 8:17This is a very similar blend in the mash, four grains, some different percentages.
- 8:26But when they gave me this one, I was like, this is it.
- 8:29This is a good one. This was the winner.
- 8:31Tell us-We picked a good one.
- 8:32As the three of us love bourbon, we're all Aussies, we talk about this idea of what
- 8:38the Australian attitude towards bourbon is.
- 8:40We've spoken about this a little bit earlier about that idea of there's a bit
- 8:44of a Scotch focus and all that thing.
- 8:47And because you're at HP Bolo and you see what people are buying and how people are
- 8:52drinking things, what do you think the attitude...
- 8:54Do you think there is a shift towards bourbon in Australia
- 8:56with the Aussie drinkers?
- 8:58There's a shift broadly It's really towards quality.
- 9:02So it doesn't matter what you're drinking.
- 9:03People want experiences.
- 9:05They want quality drink.
- 9:07They want to enjoy two or three, not 10.
- 9:10When I wrote my paper to get my licence, I said, I want people to
- 9:17drink less but drink better.
- 9:22Well, the reason I never was a bourbon drinker was because I grew up
- 9:27in the old bourbon and Coke days.
- 9:29That It was it. I was a Johnny Walker and Kate growing up.
- 9:32Yeah, I was bourbon and Coke for sure. Yeah.
- 9:36I put off for me.
- 9:40It wasn't until recently, my mate brought back a bottle from Texas,
- 9:46and he forced it on me one time.
- 9:48But I thought, hang on, this is not bourbon.
- 9:51This is not what I remember.
- 9:53So there's good stuff out there.
- 9:55Let me go and find it.
- 9:57But our bar, we We focus on independent craft.
- 10:02We don't do the RGO, the big ones.
- 10:06I had to find it. And then it was for.
- 10:09It was just a house swap.
- 10:12It's an incredible story.
- 10:13The house swap, the website is called People Like Us.
- 10:18I love it.
- 10:19It's actually People Like Us.
- 10:21Like, literally.
- 10:22You're like some an ad for them. Well done.
- 10:25Well, hey, thanks so much for bringing quality bourbon that we can
- 10:29enjoy in the right quantities.
- 10:30And there are limited quantities, 132 bottles.
- 10:32Where can people get their hands on them?
- 10:34It's released on the 10th of July at the bar.
- 10:37I'm going to have it in a local bottle shop.
- 10:40But I want to push most of it into restaurants and high-end bars, hotel lobby
- 10:45bars, like your Intercontinental Capella.
- 10:48I want them to have a better offering.
- 10:52It's going to retail around that 265 a bottle.
- 10:57On the launch night, 245 a bottle.
- 11:00But I don't have a retail licence, so I can only sell wholesale.
- 11:07So it's not publicly available, but the local bottle shop will
- 11:11carry it, and the Green Poria. Great.
- 11:13Quick trip to Sydney.
- 11:14Yeah, quick trip to Sydney, head out to Hilton Park, head over to the HP Bar.
- 11:17I'm pretty sure there'll be something behind the bar for you to try.
- 11:20It will be behind the bar.
- 11:21And what we think is probably the first Australian-labeled bourbon that's truly
- 11:27Australian-labeled, not just a barrel pick.
- 11:28So congratulations on the project.
- 11:30Thanks for coming on to join us and tell us the super cool story
- 11:32of Fernhill Station.
- 11:34For everyone who can get their hands on it, good luck to you
- 11:36because it's a cracker. Might be the first of many.
- 11:38Indeed. Absolutely.
- 11:39Tell us about the next project. We want to hear about that one, too.
- 11:42Thanks, guys. Thanks, James.
- 11:43Cheers. Thanks.
- 11:43Cheers..
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