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S T O V E G O B L I N · Ridiculous History

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome
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Speaker 1: to the show, Ridiculous Historians. As always, thank you so
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Speaker 1: much for tuning in. In the spirit of Hallowayne. Having
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Speaker 1: just survived what could writefuly be called a terrifying time
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Speaker 1: on multiple levels, we have decided to do one more episode.
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Speaker 1: By decided, I obviously mean that we just didn't get
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Speaker 1: to it before October three one, and it was on
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Speaker 1: the docket. And you know, we respect the docket. Here
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Speaker 1: in Ridiculous History, we have nothing if not respect for
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Speaker 1: the docket um a k a. The research docket provided
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Speaker 1: to us by the lovely and talented Gabe Luizier. That's true. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so thank you for this one, Gabe. We liked it
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Speaker 1: so much. We've always already built a fictional kind of
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Speaker 1: vapor wave band around this that we're calling stove Goblin.
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Speaker 1: I feel like at this point we've talked off air
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Speaker 1: more about this episode than we might talk about it
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Speaker 1: in the episode. So here's the deal. Everybody's listened to.
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Speaker 1: The Greenbrier Ghost remembers our exploration of the one time
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Speaker 1: in US legal history where the testimony of a ghost
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Speaker 1: lead to a guilty verdict. UH and what's extraordinary about
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Speaker 1: that is that supernatural things often get kind of dismissed
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Speaker 1: by government authorities. And that should be the case, because
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Speaker 1: otherwise you end up with things like the Inquisition in
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Speaker 1: which trials. But it's not always the case. Because in
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Speaker 1: nineties in Spain, true story, multiple government agencies were summoned
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Speaker 1: to figure out what was going on with a supposed
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Speaker 1: well a goblin. Right, yeah, and you know, I mean
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Speaker 1: you always hear government officials talk about the spirit of
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Speaker 1: the law, but this is a different kind of spirit entirely.
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Speaker 1: This is uh, let's call it the spirit of the
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Speaker 1: stove pipe, the spirit of the what do you what
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Speaker 1: do you would you say, Ben, the spirit of the hearth,
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Speaker 1: the hearth, the hearth. Yeah, let's see spirit of the stove.
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Speaker 1: I like for the alliteration. Also, I don't know a
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Speaker 1: spirit of the stove. I love it. That doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: where we're working life here, as you will say from
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Speaker 1: time to time. Then, but you're right. This story of
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Speaker 1: spiritual shenanigans begins in September of nineteen thirty four in
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Speaker 1: a city in Spain called And I've been waiting a
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Speaker 1: long time to be able to say this properly right
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Speaker 1: with the Castilian Spanish that spelled two zas, that's right.
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Speaker 1: And I only know this because there was a episode
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Speaker 1: of Curb Your Enthusiasm in the most recent season that
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Speaker 1: revolves around a restaurant, a Spanish restaurant called Fota Gotha,
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Speaker 1: and they say it in the episode, probably like fifty times.
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Speaker 1: And they also uh say laciento a lot, which I
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Speaker 1: believe means excuse me or I'm sorry. It's like forgive me,
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Speaker 1: forgive me exactly. And then at some point the slight
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Speaker 1: spoiler for an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, um Larry
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Speaker 1: and his crew get punched in the face or they
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Speaker 1: like something happens where they end up like all having
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Speaker 1: this kind of lisp. So everyone thinks they're making fun
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Speaker 1: of them because they have this lisp because of an
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Speaker 1: injury they all uh incurred and it leads to Shenanigan's
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Speaker 1: as you could imagine. But this story begins in September
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Speaker 1: of nineteen thirty four in the second home of a
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Speaker 1: family um in Fara called the Palathone family. And I'm
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Speaker 1: going to do the the sound for the z sound
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Speaker 1: as well. Uh not making fun, it's just I think
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Speaker 1: it is the way like Abitha, that's how you say it,
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Speaker 1: or um. But they lived in an apartment building that
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Speaker 1: is in an area that was at the time known
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Speaker 1: as Gascon Gatur Street and um that was when this
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Speaker 1: family first started to hear some very unusual and bone
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Speaker 1: chilling sounds that seemed to emanate from the walls in
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Speaker 1: their kitchen. Uh, specifically from the stove and the chimney
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Speaker 1: attached to the stove. Yeah, our first encounter with this
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Speaker 1: mysterious voice comes from the family made Pascuala Alcosser, who
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Speaker 1: was the first really connect with this goblin. She reached
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Speaker 1: for the stove and then she heard a voice say,
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Speaker 1: let's eat me. So she switched off the lights ran
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Speaker 1: out of the room as you do, and when she did,
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Speaker 1: the voice shouted, light, I can't see. And she said later,
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Speaker 1: you know, the voice had a pleasant tone, but it
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Speaker 1: had kind of a manic, unnerving energy. Uh. These these
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Speaker 1: folks weren't crazy, superstitious or anything. They were well aware
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Speaker 1: that the chimney connected to a lot of other units
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Speaker 1: in the apartment building before it made its smoky way
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Speaker 1: to the roof. So they thought, okay, well, somebody in
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Speaker 1: the building is doing something screwy. But uh, also this
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Speaker 1: really scared the maid. Pascuala heard the voice calling her
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Speaker 1: by name and then laughing, So it's like Pasquala, Oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, that freaked me out for sure. Um, but they,
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Speaker 1: you know, they were able to kind of explain it away.
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Speaker 1: Although you're right, Ben, Pascuala was totally freaked out, and
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Speaker 1: so she went and woke up her her boss, the
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Speaker 1: mistress of the house, to explain to her what happened.
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Speaker 1: And then over the course of the next few days,
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Speaker 1: this voice would occasionally appear, sometimes very early in the morning,
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Speaker 1: as early as five am, calling out to the maid
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Speaker 1: in particular, that freaked me out too, and and sometimes
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Speaker 1: it was you know, it was all kind of kitchen centric,
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Speaker 1: so if there were others hanging out in the kitchen,
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Speaker 1: they would sometimes be the butt of this particular voices
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Speaker 1: jokes as well. So let's describe the voice. The voice
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Speaker 1: seemed to be Mail. And the first thing the palatal
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Speaker 1: and family does is ask their neighbors for help. They say, hey,
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Speaker 1: come here, do you hear this? Or we are made crazy?
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Speaker 1: Let's get a second opinion. Well, first of all, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure there was the business of going around and saying, Hey, okay,
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Speaker 1: who's the wise guy. That's that's that's messing with us,
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Speaker 1: and then terrorizing our maide. And when everyone was like,
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, Um, okay, well
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Speaker 1: it looks like there might be something sinister of it,
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Speaker 1: so could you please give us your thoughts and uh.
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Speaker 1: It eventually became kind of the consensus in the building
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Speaker 1: that this was something called in Spanish a duende, which
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Speaker 1: means an elf or a goblin. Yeah, think of something
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Speaker 1: roughly similar to sprites, goblins, fairies, and Western folklore. These
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Speaker 1: are in the world of folklore, often descended from nature spirits.
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Speaker 1: They can have all kinds of traits uh, and they
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Speaker 1: can have all kinds of influences and motivations. They can
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Speaker 1: be little mischievous scamps. They can be kind of benevolent
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Speaker 1: and helpful for your house and your household chores. Or
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Speaker 1: they can be real, real pains in the key star,
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Speaker 1: you know, like Kevin McAllister in in Home Alone, that
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Speaker 1: level of prankeri. So by now the whole apartment building
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Speaker 1: has heard the voice of the stove goblin, and other
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Speaker 1: people in the neighborhood are getting interested. They would crowd
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Speaker 1: around the house try to see if they could hear it,
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Speaker 1: that's right, And it actually kind of already took on
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Speaker 1: a moniker of the Vagotha Duende, and that was really
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Speaker 1: starting to pique people's curiosity. And you know, everyone had
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Speaker 1: heard about this mysterious voice and they wanted to pop
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Speaker 1: by and see if they too could catch a little
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Speaker 1: moment of this uh you know, supernatural uh conversation. And
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Speaker 1: the Palatone family um was kind of perplexed. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it was kind of on the one hand, interesting to
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Speaker 1: be the center of so much attention, but it's like
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Speaker 1: it's sort of a lot and you know, there were
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Speaker 1: private people and all of a sudden, you know, they're
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Speaker 1: becoming the kind of ground zero for this supernatural occurrence,
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Speaker 1: and it was a lot to to deal with. The
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Speaker 1: maid in particular, continued to be sort of the focus
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Speaker 1: of this voices, uh you know communications, right, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we see a commonality. There was something often report it
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Speaker 1: in cases of alleged Poulter Geist activity. Right, there's someone
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Speaker 1: who's singled out, typically female, often young, and they become
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Speaker 1: like the friend of the Poulter guist or the friend
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Speaker 1: of the spirit or it's victim number one, and it
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Speaker 1: seems like poor Pascuale was victim number one for the
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Speaker 1: stove Goblin. The family can't figure it out. They're like,
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Speaker 1: look spirit or uh, chimney work. Either way, this is
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Speaker 1: driving us crazy. We need an answer, so they go
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Speaker 1: to the police in November. This happened on September. That's
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Speaker 1: the first recorded incident. So by mid November, Uh, they
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Speaker 1: have reached out to local law enforcement, and we don't
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Speaker 1: know if the police would The police ordinarily would have
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Speaker 1: ignored something like this, but it was getting so much
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Speaker 1: attention from the public that they were worried it was
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Speaker 1: maybe gonna trigger mass hysteria. So they got involved, which
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Speaker 1: was a mistake on their part because this made the
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Speaker 1: Goblin's voice even more popular, and the crowd soon numbered
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Speaker 1: in the hundreds waiting outside the house to see what
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Speaker 1: the police we find. So picture this. These guys go
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Speaker 1: into this house. These are actual working police officers and
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Speaker 1: they say, okay, we've got to investigate this stove. I
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Speaker 1: guess and we don't know exactly, uh exactly how they started,
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Speaker 1: but we know there, we know that the stove Goblin
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Speaker 1: did talk to them, and we have uh, we have
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Speaker 1: the account of what the police were saying. One guy
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Speaker 1: started in immediately and again he's talking to a stove
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Speaker 1: and he goes, who are you, Why are you doing this?
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Speaker 1: What do you want money? No? He said, well you're
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Speaker 1: looking for a job. Also No, And now the police
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Speaker 1: officer got really annoyed and he said, well, and who
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Speaker 1: are you? What do you want? Man? Nothing? I am
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Speaker 1: not a man. Oh my gosh, chilling. And at this
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Speaker 1: point even the police were completely flummox and they are
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Speaker 1: to them it's clear that there's something going on they
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Speaker 1: can't fully explain. And in the first article written about
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Speaker 1: the Thodegosta Goblin, it was called a polite Spanish ghost.
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Speaker 1: The London Times wrote this up and it was published
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Speaker 1: in November twenty, nineteen thirty four, and they described it
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Speaker 1: as such that an architect and some workmen were sent
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Speaker 1: into the building to root out the cause of this,
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Speaker 1: you know, obnoxious voice. And they turned the place upside
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Speaker 1: down and looked everywhere from the seller up to the
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Speaker 1: attic and checked out all the infrastructure and the piping
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Speaker 1: and all of that. Like you said, it would travel
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Speaker 1: throughout the building. But they couldn't find any evidence of
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Speaker 1: who might be playing this prank. And even one of
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Speaker 1: the work has stood in front of the goblin stove
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Speaker 1: in question and decided that it would be a good
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Speaker 1: idea to measure the opening. And I said that out loud,
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Speaker 1: and that the voice replied, you need not trouble The
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Speaker 1: diameter is just six inches. And the goblin was right,
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Speaker 1: which is the weirdest part of it. So now people
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Speaker 1: are baffled. The architect of the buildings, some construction workers,
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Speaker 1: the police, and of course this poor family UH still
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Speaker 1: mostly believe this is a hoax. They're not ready to
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Speaker 1: call it a case of the supernatural yet. But the
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Speaker 1: cops say, look, we're gonna have your family relocated to
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Speaker 1: another residence and we're going to thoroughly investigate this. And
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Speaker 1: as soon as the neighbors heard about this, word spreads
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Speaker 1: and the community starts panicking. No one knows what this
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Speaker 1: thing is, No one knows where this goblin could be. Eventually,
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Speaker 1: police involving tears completely evacuate the building of every resident
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Speaker 1: and guard it morning and night. They have a thirty
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Speaker 1: yard perimeter around the home. So whatever mischief maker was doing,
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Speaker 1: this voice wouldn't be able to return. As a matter
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Speaker 1: of fact, even cut off the power to the building
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Speaker 1: because they said, look, maybe it's a speaker or something. Doctor, psychologist, priest.
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Speaker 1: They all come in. The priest like blesses the snow
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Speaker 1: sprinkles it with holy water. According to the Times, the
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Speaker 1: voice wouldn't shut up. It just kept talking and talking
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Speaker 1: and talking for days. They even organized sightseeing trips from
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Speaker 1: a nearby town. And then one day, without explanation, the
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Speaker 1: stove goblin fell silent and people almost like started missing it.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh, we were like freaked out,
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Speaker 1: but now we realized, like this actually gave us something fun.
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Speaker 1: Like the quister just so he's only obnoxious when he's around,
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Speaker 1: and then when he goes silence, when he goes to you,
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Speaker 1: ha uh, it starts to hurt your feelings a little bit. Um.
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Speaker 1: And it did absolutely fall silent after a couple of
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Speaker 1: days of silence. The local magistrate, who was kind of
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Speaker 1: pleased that this was sort of at least seeing an
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Speaker 1: end in sight to this uh you know, brewing panic,
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Speaker 1: he just decided to write it off as an anomaly
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Speaker 1: and had the police get out of there. But that's
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Speaker 1: not the end of the story, and there is a
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Speaker 1: very very unusual explanation. Yes, all right, it's two days
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Speaker 1: of silence had passed right to the Simon and garfuncle.
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Speaker 1: And people are getting people are getting a little sad
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Speaker 1: they missed the Goblin, and then also they're very irritated
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Speaker 1: that there was never a full explanation. The voice surprises
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Speaker 1: a group of neighbors and visitors who have returned to
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Speaker 1: the apartment building two days later. It says, cowards, cowards, cowards.
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Speaker 1: Here I am it is I thought goblin, And so
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Speaker 1: it's back. Now it's like it's it's officially back. The
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Speaker 1: police returned, but the family had had enough and they said,
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Speaker 1: forget this, we're leaving town. So they they're kind of
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Speaker 1: out of the picture for a while, and the voice
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Speaker 1: continue talking and a taunted police because she reports are
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Speaker 1: not confirmed that the Goblin threatened to kill everyone inside
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Speaker 1: the building. But the stuff we can confirm is more
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Speaker 1: like ha ha, here I'm back, but also has an
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Speaker 1: Arab sinister to it. I'm coming, I'm coming, you know. Um.
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Speaker 1: But it didn't never really show up in any kind
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Speaker 1: of corporeal form. It always just remained a voice, you know,
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Speaker 1: coming from the stovepipe, and uh, the interest at this point,
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Speaker 1: after that little lull was back in full force too.
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Speaker 1: There was even a Barcelona radio station that was was
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Speaker 1: asked was kind of putting out the call for someone
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Speaker 1: to get a recording of it so they could broadcast
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Speaker 1: the voice. Um and even like because of the reporting
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Speaker 1: in the UK, members of Scotland yard we're talking about
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Speaker 1: planning trips to come and try and solve it, because
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Speaker 1: it really was becoming almost like a Homesyn kind of
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Speaker 1: mystery where it's like, it's gotta be a twist here,
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Speaker 1: you know, everyone's still leaning into a rational explanation for this.
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Speaker 1: Then a November of that same year, November precise, the
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Speaker 1: governor of Saragosa had just had it up to here
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Speaker 1: and he just was done with this and he shut
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Speaker 1: it down. He asked people to stop coming around, stop
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Speaker 1: making such a fuss out of this, and he entreated
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Speaker 1: the public, rather than just continuing to feed this fervor,
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Speaker 1: to be helpful for Christ's sake, you know, come lend
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Speaker 1: a hand and help us, you know, crowdsource this thing
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Speaker 1: and figure out who this miss Jeves human being is
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Speaker 1: that's causing all this chaos. Yeah, and he goes into
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Speaker 1: pretty much pr damage control mode. So he makes a
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Speaker 1: unilateral decision. Basically, he has decided that he's going to
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Speaker 1: do a little bit of what we call post truth
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Speaker 1: narrative spin. So he just declares that the thing is over,
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Speaker 1: and he declares that they have figured out the perpetrator
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Speaker 1: of the voice. He says, the stove Goblin's real identity. Now,
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Speaker 1: picture you're everybody listening along, ridiculous historians. Picture your favorite
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Speaker 1: Scooby Doo seen where someone reaches over and takes the
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Speaker 1: mask off of the quote unquote ghost. It was Pastaualla,
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Speaker 1: the maid. Yes, that's what he says. He says, it's Pascualla.
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Speaker 1: And his explanation, I know where a family shows censor
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Speaker 1: me on this casey, his explanation is bullsh It's like
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Speaker 1: lazy at that. He says, she's been doing this voice,
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Speaker 1: but it's not really her fault. She's been suffering from
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Speaker 1: unconscious ventriloquism. Very creative detective work here, I mean, yeah,
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Speaker 1: sort of like a fugue state. I guess you could
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Speaker 1: say that she was in some sign of some sort
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Speaker 1: of like psychologically induced reverie. And yeah, like unbeknownst to
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Speaker 1: her throwing her own voice and the you know, police
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Speaker 1: officials that were presiding over the case also backed up
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Speaker 1: the story, claimed to have seen it as well. Um,
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Speaker 1: and they chalked it up to a form of a
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Speaker 1: quote psychic phenomenon produced only in certain circumstances. That's my
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Speaker 1: response to that. Two thumbs down for me. Yeah, No,
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Ben, I'm with you. It's so there
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Speaker 1: are some arguments that make this, uh, clearly not a
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Speaker 1: water tight case. First, people have heard this strange talking
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Speaker 1: in a male voice. No, people can change their voices
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Speaker 1: very easily. But people have heard the strange talking in
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Speaker 1: a voice that is very unlike Pascualace. More importantly, they've
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Speaker 1: heard it when she's nowhere near the premises. So what
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Speaker 1: was she doing it through a radio that just was
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Speaker 1: never found For city officials, they were done with the story.
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Speaker 1: We found a person that's the answer. Just like in
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Speaker 1: Brotherhood of the Wolf, you know what I mean, the
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Speaker 1: French Royalty makes them uh tax Jeremy a fake beast
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Speaker 1: of Gevaldon totally. And let's not forget as well, we
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Speaker 1: said this is really early on in the show that
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Speaker 1: the goblin's voice was a male voice, So you know
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Speaker 1: was was pasquala not only uh, subconsciously ventriloquizing, but also
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Speaker 1: like changing the gender of her voice. I'm not to
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Speaker 1: say that's not possible. You can certainly, like you know,
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Speaker 1: a woman can lower the sound of her voice. And
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Speaker 1: there's plenty of examples of women that can, you know,
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Speaker 1: do impressions of men um. Not that surprising, but it's
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Speaker 1: a little suspect. Yeah, So the court of public opinion
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Speaker 1: has ruled where the legal court could not, and they
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Speaker 1: said that this made was guilty of the whole hubbub.
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Speaker 1: But there's not any evidence to that, uh, And there's
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Speaker 1: no interest on anybody's part in arresting her or prosecuting
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Speaker 1: her for doing what talking to herself through a stove.
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Speaker 1: So she's allowed to skidaddle, and like the family she
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Speaker 1: worked for, she leaves town. She wants to get away
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Speaker 1: from the judging eyes of the community. And the story
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Speaker 1: still doesn't reach a good like a totally satisfying conclusion.
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Speaker 1: This is like our post credit stinger. Right, So Pascuala
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Speaker 1: leaves town. Fast forward December four Some please officers are
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Speaker 1: send in the son of the building's owner, yes, six
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Speaker 1: year old, right, and a child shall lead them. His
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Speaker 1: name is our Tourrialba. And he goes up to the
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Speaker 1: family stove, and he's frustrated by the communication, like all
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Speaker 1: this stuff happening because he's a six year old, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's kind of overwhelmed with all this stuff. And then
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Speaker 1: here's what he here's what he does. He says, this
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Speaker 1: whole thing is crazy from the mouths of babes. Uh.
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Speaker 1: He says that out loud though, right to which in
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Speaker 1: a pretty neat and tidy, cool little resolution, the voice responds,
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Speaker 1: not crazy, little one, not crazy. Oh that is like
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Speaker 1: a good like end of the you know, the conjuring
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Speaker 1: are like sinister, maybe a little less discussed, like you know,
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Speaker 1: gory and uh and utterly existentially dreadful, but it still
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Speaker 1: has that nice little twist. You know, it gives me
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Speaker 1: chills kind thing about it. But thus came the end
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Speaker 1: of the communication of the Thanagosta Goblin. I was never
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Speaker 1: heard from again. That's right, and uh, you know I've
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Speaker 1: mentioned it before. One of the craziest things about our
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Speaker 1: species is how quickly things become normal or go back
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Speaker 1: to normal, or how quickly we acclimate the things. So
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Speaker 1: very soon after this, people are just going about their
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Speaker 1: daily lives in the apartment building. Occasionally future tenants would
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Speaker 1: report ghostly sounds, but never something like the Goblin. In
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Speaker 1: seven the building was torn down. It was replaced with
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Speaker 1: a new complex and it's called a Dwinde or the
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Speaker 1: Goblin Building, to commemorate the phenomenon. I think that's cool.
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Speaker 1: But even now, in more than eighty years after this happened,
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Speaker 1: we still have no idea who was responsible for this, right, No,
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Speaker 1: we don't. And just to back up in time, a
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Speaker 1: little bit before the the building was torn down and
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Speaker 1: renamed Pasquala also Stare. The maid never really quite got
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Speaker 1: over the stigma attached to her potentially being this, you know,
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Speaker 1: sleepwalker voice thrower and uh. She did give an interview
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Speaker 1: late in life, within the twilight of her years, and
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Speaker 1: when she was asked where the voice was coming from,
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Speaker 1: she only answered the following from within the wall as
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Speaker 1: a double sew up, I love it from within the wall.
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Speaker 1: That could be the name of the of the of
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Speaker 1: the movie. Um, I really liked this story. It's it's
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Speaker 1: got all. It's at least no one gets murdered or
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Speaker 1: like possessed, or nothing super nefarious happens. It's more or
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Speaker 1: less like a gremlin kind of situation that's sort of
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Speaker 1: just messing with people. But it is kind of shiver inducing,
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Speaker 1: don't you think. Yeah, And I think they should have
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Speaker 1: asked better questions. Honestly, if you're if you're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: to a stove, go all in, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: own it, ask it questions about the stove, which I
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Speaker 1: feel like there's some hostage negotiations, some therapy structuring you
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Speaker 1: could have used to get answers. But I love that.
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Speaker 1: I love that the mystery remains. Just like we don't
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Speaker 1: know what the Beast of Jevldont was, we don't know
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Speaker 1: who perpetrated this and how they did it. Uh, we
24:27
Speaker 1: can say we haven't found proof of you know, goblins,
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Speaker 1: but we also haven't been able to explain through mundane
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Speaker 1: means how it occurred. So I love this ghost story
24:38
Speaker 1: and we're a little late with it. But this is
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Speaker 1: hollow Wayne, and this is the ultimate inspiration behind one
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Speaker 1: of the world's soon to be greatest shoegaze post rock
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Speaker 1: vape wave bands. Stove Goblin, Stove Goblin it is. And
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Speaker 1: let's just wrap this episode up like we did with
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Speaker 1: our voting episode, with just a little bit of etymology
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Speaker 1: behind the word goblin um. When you think of a goblin,
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, a lot of folks go to
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Speaker 1: maybe the Labyrinth movie with David Bowie or the excellent
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Speaker 1: Italian band. Of course I love love the band Goblin
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Speaker 1: that does all the Dario or Agento soundtracks. I think
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Speaker 1: of the goblins from the Rankin and Bass, the Hobbit
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Speaker 1: animated film, and there's that whole down down to goblin tone,
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Speaker 1: you know, that whole bit and the goblins are pretty
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Speaker 1: terrifying and that and they like eat you know, Hobbits,
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Speaker 1: and you know, presumably children. But that's not really where
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Speaker 1: it comes from. It comes from the idea of a mischievous, uh,
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Speaker 1: not particularly attractive creature um, originating in Greece, perhaps with
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Speaker 1: the word caballos, which is essentially translated to mean like scoundrel.
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Speaker 1: And in this theory of the of the meaning of
25:53
Speaker 1: the word caballos turned into the Latin and then the French,
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Speaker 1: where it became goblin yes or gobliness um, and that
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Speaker 1: is the idea of or used to describe a spirit
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Speaker 1: that was haunting the city of Evro back in the
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Speaker 1: Middle Ages. And then goblin is further altered in the
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Speaker 1: English by the thirteen twenties as hobgoblin um and this
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Speaker 1: I didn't know, Ben, you know you've ever heard of
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Speaker 1: a puck in Midsummer Night's Dream referred to as Robin
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Speaker 1: Goodfellow the idea of the fawn, and that's where that
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Speaker 1: came from. Hobb is related to the word, the name
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Speaker 1: Robert or Robin, and of course goblin's are very common
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Speaker 1: in both ancient and modern fantasy. I do wanna, I
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Speaker 1: do want to point out that goblin for a time
26:44
Speaker 1: has been used as an insult, and I think it's
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Speaker 1: a very good insult to use it. You goblin, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: like just call it and then add a little so
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Speaker 1: it's even more diminutive, like that little goblin? Uh uh?
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Speaker 1: Ellis how that works out? Also, please, we hope you
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Speaker 1: enjoyed this episode. As they say every so often on occasion,
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Speaker 1: I would love to hear your favorite archaic insults of yesteryear.
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Speaker 1: Bonus points if you can fool us with one that
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Speaker 1: you've made up that we think is is real, and
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Speaker 1: I promise I I won't immediately go to a search engine.
27:21
Speaker 1: I also want to recommend a great series of comic
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Speaker 1: book slash graphic novels called Works and Goblins. It's uh,
27:30
Speaker 1: it's fantastic, It's well written. I know that we have
27:34
Speaker 1: been recommending some different comic books and books before, but
27:38
Speaker 1: do check this one out if you get a chance.
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Speaker 1: I love to hear what you think. But how can
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Speaker 1: we tell you, guys what we think. How can we
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Speaker 1: give you our real or fictitious archaic insults of yesteryear? Why?
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Speaker 1: The answer is very simple. All you have to do
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Speaker 1: is whisper into your stove. If that doesn't work, find
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Speaker 1: browser in the form of yeah those things, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.
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Speaker 1: You can find ridiculous history in all those places. You
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Speaker 1: can also find Ben and I as human individual people.
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Speaker 1: I am at how Now Noel Brown pretty much exclusively
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Speaker 1: I am at Ben Bolan on Instagram, and I am
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Speaker 1: those is not true. Love it well. Happy Halloween, y'all.
28:28
Speaker 1: I mean we decided that Halloween was just the spirit
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Speaker 1: of Halloween, uh, you know, extending into November. We came
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Speaker 1: up with that on the fly. It's not necessarily a
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Speaker 1: real thing, but maybe it is now. I think it
28:38
Speaker 1: all started off with just a momentary misspeak on on
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Speaker 1: one of our parts. Um, and then we coin it,
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Speaker 1: and then now it's a thing, and it's a whole
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Speaker 1: new holiday tradition. Yes. Yes, Also hit us up with
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Speaker 1: your best ideas for traditional Halloween and celebrations UH in
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Speaker 1: the meantime, Thanks of course to I guess to my
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Speaker 1: very to this see accent for giving us UH an
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Speaker 1: accidental holiday. Thanks to Christopher Oscodas. Thanks to Alex Williams
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Speaker 1: who composed this amazing track. Yes, indeed, thanks to Jonathan
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Speaker 1: Strickling the quiz stare. Thanks to Gabe Louisier for all
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Speaker 1: the Halloween research and beyond um we we love you man.
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Speaker 1: We gotta have him back on the show very soon.
29:19
Speaker 1: It's been too long, And send costume photos. Send your
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29:24
Speaker 1: also because we're in our thirties. By the time you've
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Speaker 1: heard this, I will have done some COVID safe trick
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Speaker 1: or treating with my daughter and her her crazy cosplay friends.
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Speaker 1: They're more out, you know. Just to show off their
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Speaker 1: d I y anime outfits. Um, but hopefully that went well.
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