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Bears vs Panthers, WK 1, Postgame Show · Bears Banter Talk Show

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SPEAKER_00: Bears Banner Talk Show by the Chicago Bears fans for the Chicago Bears fans.
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SPEAKER_00: Hey, don't forget to subscribe.
0:48
SPEAKER_03: The Bears.
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SPEAKER_03: The Bears.
0:51
SPEAKER_03: I promised you two things.
0:52
SPEAKER_03: I promised you that the Bears was gonna win.
0:55
SPEAKER_03: And I promised you that I was gonna be here.
0:57
SPEAKER_03: And I'm here.
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SPEAKER_03: 59 to 37.
1:01
SPEAKER_03: Let's talk about it.
1:03
SPEAKER_03: What's up, fellas?
1:04
SPEAKER_03: Let's go.
1:08
SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
1:12
SPEAKER_01: Who was that masked man today, man?
1:15
SPEAKER_04: The highest scoring, the highest scoring game in NFL history for week one.
1:21
SPEAKER_04: 96 points combined.
1:23
SPEAKER_04: The Bears put up a 50 burger.
1:26
SPEAKER_04: Who would have thought?
1:27
SPEAKER_04: Who would have thought?
1:29
SPEAKER_04: I definitely didn't think that.
1:31
SPEAKER_04: I thought they may have come out a little rusty.
1:33
SPEAKER_04: Uh, you know, we're gonna talk about it, but Ben made some questionable decisions in the first half, which made this game a little closer than what it was supposed to be going into halftime.
1:45
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
1:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
1:48
SPEAKER_01: You know, and you know what?
1:49
SPEAKER_01: This game was so dominant, and I agree with you, Jay.
1:53
SPEAKER_01: Uh I guess we might as well get that out of the way first, some of the bad things, because it was so much positive stuff to talk about, so can't really dwell on it.
2:01
SPEAKER_01: But uh, you know, this is not Madden.
2:03
SPEAKER_01: This is the NFL.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: You when you're on your own, was it 20, 23, 22?
2:08
SPEAKER_01: 22, 22 yard line, under no circumstances do you go for it unless it's like the end of the game, is this possibly your last possession?
2:16
SPEAKER_01: That early in the game, you punish.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: You uh not only earlier in the game you hit a turnover on that first possession that gave them a short fill.
2:25
SPEAKER_01: Then you turn around, so you actually gave them two short fills that allow for them to have 14 points without any work.
2:32
SPEAKER_01: So uh that that that was bonehead, that was a little arrogance right there.
2:36
SPEAKER_01: Which which some people will say, oh, the defense this, the defense this.
2:40
SPEAKER_04: Well, we gave them short feels twice.
2:44
SPEAKER_04: You know, it it's it's it's chess, not checkers, and people need to just calm down, just calm down.
2:54
SPEAKER_04: No, we can't calm down.
2:56
SPEAKER_04: I mean we're just not gonna calm down.
2:58
SPEAKER_04: I know you can't quit.
3:00
SPEAKER_03: Hey, I told y'all in the group, I said if he's going for it right now, he just thinks he could just have his way with Carolina.
3:07
SPEAKER_03: He don't even care, yeah.
3:09
SPEAKER_03: He don't even care, he's just like, all right, just uh yeah, go for it, right?
3:13
SPEAKER_03: He just knew that he could score at will against them, so he just like he taking a chance, and it it it was still a dominant performance by the offense, but we still got some defensive stuff to talk about, and we got some penalties to talk about too 12 penalties for 57 yards.
3:31
SPEAKER_04: I mean, although the yardage wasn't big, yeah, but we did we we did have 12 penalties, yeah.
3:37
SPEAKER_04: And it's it's week one too, though.
3:38
SPEAKER_04: So week one normally um with penalties.
3:42
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which normally goes with the rust.
3:44
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um, but yeah, we did have 12 penalties, but all in all, it was a dominant performance, a dominant performance by the Bears offense, man.
3:53
SPEAKER_04: And you they they ran for 291 yards and six rusting touchdowns.
3:59
SPEAKER_03: Hey, let me let me shout out to Swift, who just got paid.
4:04
SPEAKER_03: Hey, hey, because normally when you get paid, you you start making business decisions, yeah.
4:13
SPEAKER_02: He was giving folks the business today, right?
4:17
SPEAKER_02: But let's talk about the Achilles heel that we've had for the last seven years, and we were perfect and we were four for four in the red zone.
4:25
SPEAKER_02: Yep, that makes a huge, it's a huge difference.
4:28
SPEAKER_02: 59 like you said, man, that play was a bonehead play, man, for going for it.
4:33
SPEAKER_02: But it's just like the basketball equivalent of the dude that can shoot a heat check.
4:38
SPEAKER_02: We can't do it, we can't keep going the season doing that though.
4:41
SPEAKER_04: And I actually think and I actually think that um Caleb was eight for eight on third down, or something like that.
4:51
SPEAKER_04: It was it it was it was a pretty good performance by him as well.
4:54
SPEAKER_04: So, like you said, Bernard, we had we got a lot of positive things to talk about.
4:58
SPEAKER_04: So let's get the bad things out the way.
5:01
SPEAKER_04: Um and like you, like Paul Martin said 59 points and 500 yards and an irrelevant coastal lovelin.
5:08
SPEAKER_04: He had one target today and zero catches.
5:11
SPEAKER_04: That's scary, man.
5:12
SPEAKER_03: That's real scary.
5:13
SPEAKER_03: Hey, do anybody want the lottery numbers?
5:15
SPEAKER_03: Because in the group, I was like, Man, they ain't even dialed up the they ain't even dialed up the tight ends yet.
5:20
SPEAKER_05: Next play, boom, touchdown.
5:21
SPEAKER_03: I was like, yeah, yeah, they did.
5:24
SPEAKER_05: All right, yeah.
5:26
SPEAKER_03: I play A21 tonight.
5:28
SPEAKER_03: I play A21.
5:29
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
5:30
SPEAKER_03: I'm just saying that was funny.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: Man, the Bears had their way with them, so they they had anything that they wanted today.
5:39
SPEAKER_00: Uh, DeAndre Swift, pay him again, man.
5:42
SPEAKER_00: Let's pay him by the week.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: Every week we announce that he's getting uh some more money and see if he can put out that uh that kind of effort again.
5:52
SPEAKER_00: Three touchdowns uh for him, man.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: And Kyle Manunga, uh, let me tell you something.
5:58
SPEAKER_00: One thing I like watching today is not just the score, the aggressiveness of the running backs.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh DeAndre Swift is not a good pass blocker, at least that's what people have told us.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: Every time he picked up those blitzes, he was taking those dudes out.
6:14
SPEAKER_00: And we knew Cal Manun guy was gonna do some pass blocking.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: So I don't I don't just like the that they won.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: I like the way they had uh they imposed their physicality on the on the uh Panthers.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna take the W.
6:28
SPEAKER_04: And then I want to talk about my guy.
6:30
SPEAKER_04: I want to talk about my guy Jade Walker.
6:33
SPEAKER_04: Oh keep telling y'all, this dude, this kid is gonna be a stud, man.
6:37
SPEAKER_04: That block that he had on the Mononga run, you don't see that in the NFL.
6:44
SPEAKER_03: You do that.
6:46
SPEAKER_03: Besides that, no, uh that hit he had on 10.
6:50
SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes, I was like, wait, hey, before hey, we was talking about Swift.
6:56
SPEAKER_03: One of the plays that Smith that Swift ran the touchdown, he needs to put his damn mouthpiece in his mouth.
7:01
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, bro, what you do?
7:03
SPEAKER_03: What's your mouthpiece in there, man?
7:04
SPEAKER_03: We need don't need no damn mouthpiece.
7:08
SPEAKER_03: But John A.
7:09
SPEAKER_03: Walker on that hit on special teams.
7:12
SPEAKER_03: I said, Oh Lord Jesus.
7:13
SPEAKER_03: I I did I flinched.
7:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, oh but Johnny Walker on that screen, he hit he hit the D B right in the ear hole.
7:23
SPEAKER_00: Johnny Walker was getting it done, man.
7:25
SPEAKER_00: So I'm like, he wanted my FPs for the day.
7:28
SPEAKER_04: And what happens when you get it done?
7:30
SPEAKER_04: You get rewarded with one kiss with seven yards, yep, one touchdown, he gets you a two to yeah.
7:37
SPEAKER_04: You know what I'm saying?
7:38
SPEAKER_01: So how many times have you seen NFL players when a back is up the field like that, and a receiver is out there that you get it blocking a back?
7:49
SPEAKER_01: Where you know he did the perfect stuff where you just kind of when he was up field, he just impeded his progress a little bit, but then try to block for him.
7:59
SPEAKER_01: I mean, Calvin guy had 10 carries today for what 100 yards.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: 100 yards.
8:05
SPEAKER_01: That's 10 yards of pop.
8:07
SPEAKER_01: Man, yeah, I mean, you can't ask of nothing better than that, man.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: The running game between the two backs, you had 224 Russian yards, and you hit another 65 by Caleb Williams.
8:20
SPEAKER_01: The Bears, who is this team?
8:22
SPEAKER_01: What's going on?
8:23
SPEAKER_01: This is the twilight zone.
8:25
SPEAKER_01: Put that music on.
8:27
SPEAKER_00: Well, Ben Johnson is talking about he wants to uh break records and all of that.
8:32
SPEAKER_00: If you look at it, 59 in the first game, exactly well on his way.
8:37
SPEAKER_00: So I'll take that.
8:39
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
8:40
SPEAKER_04: I was you took the words right out of my mouth.
8:42
SPEAKER_04: I would say Ben Johnson said he wanted to have the highest scoring offense, and he started it off today with a 59 burger.
8:50
SPEAKER_00: Despite those bonehead calls he was making, I don't know what he was doing.
8:54
SPEAKER_02: But if you think about that, that's encouraging because you know, coastal lovely, what no catches, no catches, and they score 59.
9:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so now I I've got to think if I'm a uh I'm a team in the NFL and I'm looking at this.
9:06
SPEAKER_02: You you ain't looking really looking at the 59 points, you looking at the numbers, and it's like stretched out receivers, basically almost on the same part, nice numbers, two dogs, 224 yards, and they didn't even pull out their whole bag.
9:22
SPEAKER_02: Man, that's a nightmare for the league, man.
9:24
SPEAKER_02: If they can keep this up, Roma Dunes are out there mossing people.
9:28
SPEAKER_04: So I mean it was sick play.
9:31
SPEAKER_04: It's about time.
9:33
SPEAKER_04: Hey, it was it was a great overall performance, man.
9:36
SPEAKER_04: Great overall performance.
9:37
SPEAKER_03: But it all starts with the iceman.
9:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he he his maturity.
9:45
SPEAKER_03: I mean, this is third year, he didn't look like a three-year quarterback today.
9:50
SPEAKER_03: He looked like somebody that's been there for a while, and he just make play after play, and those runs is it's it's electric.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, did he make that 70 today?
10:02
SPEAKER_00: I think 72.
10:05
SPEAKER_01: You you had you had two throwaways and one that maybe ruled as a drop where receiver kind of got it muscled out of his uh hand, so he could have easily had been about 80.
10:19
SPEAKER_01: That would have probably been like 81 if you know if you count those three.
10:23
SPEAKER_01: So, I like to see the justice uh completion ratio, but also make sure if you're out there watching, tune in to Baz Banner.
10:31
SPEAKER_01: And guess what, man?
10:32
SPEAKER_01: Different season, different look, man.
10:35
SPEAKER_01: We we we coming back with a new look, the same look, but a different way.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: Black on black, bass banner.
10:41
SPEAKER_01: So man, we're looking for some positive vibes.
10:44
SPEAKER_01: We need at least five people to subscribe today to get us to that 800 and one, two, three, four, five.
10:53
SPEAKER_03: You said black on black, that counts for uh coast of Loveland, too.
10:59
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he had the cookout.
11:01
SPEAKER_01: Hey, quick, when are you gonna do the uh uh out of bounds this week?
11:05
SPEAKER_01: Are you gonna be able to get one out to this week?
11:06
SPEAKER_03: Tuesday, Tuesday.
11:08
SPEAKER_03: I want to do it Tuesday.
11:09
SPEAKER_03: I don't have no game Tuesday, so out of bounds.
11:12
SPEAKER_03: I'll be talking about high school, college, foot, NFL, all of it.
11:17
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna talk about it all.
11:18
SPEAKER_03: We're gonna stay out of bounds.
11:21
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I like it.
11:22
SPEAKER_00: I like it a lot.
11:23
SPEAKER_00: Good job.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: This this Caleb Williams man is scary because it looked like everything was just in slow motion to him.
11:33
SPEAKER_02: He was like unbothered, unrattled, and going back to the whole league.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: You look at a kid that's in his third year with the success he's had, he's only had 13 picks, and he had none today.
11:45
SPEAKER_02: That kind of guy with this type of offense, man.
11:49
SPEAKER_02: It's almost like pick your poison because I'm going off with Jay with Jay was talking about a wide receiver room is packed.
11:57
SPEAKER_02: Don't matter which way you go, run it or pass it, man.
11:59
SPEAKER_00: It looks good.
12:00
SPEAKER_02: Really good.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: A couple things.
12:02
SPEAKER_00: First off, never apologize for getting a win in the NFL.
12:07
SPEAKER_00: I don't care how the win looks, I don't care if you were sloppy or whatever.
12:11
SPEAKER_00: If you get the W, that is the goal.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: That said, uh the Bears, this is their first opportunity out there.
12:18
SPEAKER_00: Uh they in the same offense.
12:20
SPEAKER_00: You can see that they uh were able to execute a lot better.
12:23
SPEAKER_00: They still have to clean up a lot of those penalties.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: Uh having double-digit penalties is never a good prescription uh for a football game.
12:32
SPEAKER_00: But you know, all in all, I like the the Bears' aggressiveness, the way they came out, and they just hit a lot of people in the mouth.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: So I'm taking that double.
12:43
SPEAKER_01: Yes, sir.
12:45
SPEAKER_01: You know, Caleb Williams accounted for four touchdowns today.
12:50
SPEAKER_01: He had two on the ground and two in the air.
12:53
SPEAKER_01: That was a dominant performance by him as a quarterback.
12:56
SPEAKER_01: Like I said, he looked like a a seven, eight-year pro today.
13:03
SPEAKER_01: The way he had command of the offense, the way he got the ball out of his hands pretty fast, man.
13:09
SPEAKER_01: Uh, I mean, this was kind of fun to watch, watching the Bears' offense be this efficient.
13:15
SPEAKER_01: I mean, we set up, we we have watched other teams for years be this efficient.
13:20
SPEAKER_01: And what we always was, we was kind of stuck on the old toolish of you know, uh, just let the defense run in, don't turn it over, just run the ball.
13:29
SPEAKER_01: No, these bears, like, no, we're coming out here and we're coming out here, we're we're kicking butt, and we're not asking any questions on offense.
13:39
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and and the bears had what uh three turnovers on defense today, yes, sir.
13:44
SPEAKER_04: So you know, so you know, people can say, you know, they those turnovers that they had last year, that's not sustainable.
13:50
SPEAKER_04: Well, we won, we got three.
13:52
SPEAKER_04: So I mean, that's a good start.
13:55
SPEAKER_04: You know, that's a good start.
13:56
SPEAKER_04: So I I I can't, you know, that's why I tell people that's why they play the game.
14:00
SPEAKER_04: You know, you can't say what we are not gonna have, and the game hasn't been played yet.
14:04
SPEAKER_04: So a good overall performance, like you said, doc, you know, clean up some stuff.
14:09
SPEAKER_04: Uh, but uh but overall good performance, man.
14:12
SPEAKER_04: Overall, a formidable opponent because Carolina Carolina is a pretty good team, right?
14:18
SPEAKER_04: You know, they play they play in a bad division, but Carolina is a pretty good team.
14:22
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
14:24
SPEAKER_02: Here's the interesting thing.
14:25
SPEAKER_02: We all been Bears fans pretty much our entire life.
14:28
SPEAKER_02: Have you ever seen a quarterback that doesn't even think about reads?
14:35
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when it's like a second nature, it's almost like when they snap the ball, it's like my Z is open, but let me just see here, as opposed to looking around, like, uh, do I pick one, two, three, one?
14:45
SPEAKER_02: It just like I never feel like he's like rattled by any defense, and it almost seems like as soon as he gets the ball, he knows what he wants to do, but instead of making reads, he's looking at other options because he knows what the defense is going to do in those specific players.
15:00
SPEAKER_02: Man, I'm loving this, man.
15:02
SPEAKER_02: I've never seen this before in my entire life with a Bears quarterback.
15:08
unknown: I agree.
15:11
SPEAKER_01: One major step is having a quarterback right now.
15:14
SPEAKER_01: Looking at a game like this, we we we I know we talked about this in the offseason.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: Coming into year three, there have been plenty of quarterbacks since we you know even had to show that going into season three, that game season opener, you like, man, I don't know, man.
15:31
SPEAKER_01: They may have to get you know, get another quarterback in the draft.
15:35
SPEAKER_01: This to may mean anybody who was still like on the fence or dwelling in those completion percentages or whatever they wanted to, or said certain things was luck.
15:47
SPEAKER_01: Caleb Williams came to shut you up, you know, like with what is the acronym S T uh S T F U.
15:56
SPEAKER_01: He came to Davis that say L O L.
15:59
SPEAKER_01: Oh, you said I'm coming to prove I I am this guy, and he backed up this statement that he made a few weeks ago when he said, Hey, I want to be a Chicago Bears quarterback for life.
16:11
SPEAKER_01: It is not about the money.
16:13
SPEAKER_01: I want, I want to, this is where I want to be.
16:16
SPEAKER_01: That that's me, yeah.
16:18
SPEAKER_01: Because I have had quarterbacks here, I'm saying I had that, but I have noticed quarterbacks here that I did at times question were they waiting for free agency.
16:28
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is his this is his third year, and I I always talk about uh contracts and things like that.
16:35
SPEAKER_03: Uh, to me, by the middle of the season, if he's consistent, you've already decided to that you're gonna pick up his option.
16:43
SPEAKER_03: You've already decided that.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: Because I mean, like, for for what you're doing in your offense, what what else are you gonna get?
16:51
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
16:52
SPEAKER_03: To to lead this offense, and he he's he's done some things, he's still got a long way to go, but he's proven that he's the quarterback of the Chicago Bears.
17:03
SPEAKER_03: What I love is that I know y'all seen the clip when they were at uh Pete at the Cubs game.
17:09
SPEAKER_03: You got Caleb Williams, you got Caleb Wilson, and Pete Crow.
17:13
SPEAKER_03: Man, this reminds me of when we had Walter Payton, Michael Jordan, and Ryan Sunberg in Chicago.
17:19
SPEAKER_03: So that that reminds me of that era back then when we had the three superstars.
17:24
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
17:29
SPEAKER_02: It's amazing, man.
17:31
SPEAKER_00: Hey, also, uh, I think we might need to have an exorcism of uh a couple of the Bears DVs.
17:37
SPEAKER_00: I saw uh a reincarnation of Elvis Toast Paterson from the New York Giants.
17:43
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so there's a lot of cornerbacks out there that wasn't even even in the frame when they were chasing wide receivers down the field.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I know we supposed to got a whole lot faster, it didn't look like it to me today.
17:57
SPEAKER_04: And also, we didn't get no pressure on the quarterback either.
18:00
SPEAKER_04: You know, I think we did, I think we did get two sacks.
18:03
SPEAKER_04: If I'm not I'm not looking at the stats, but I think we did get two sacks, but we still didn't get no pressure on the quarterback.
18:08
SPEAKER_04: And that's and that's discouraging just because as I said in the pregame on Friday, you know, Carolina was playing without their starting two offensive tackles.
18:18
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so uh I I know uh um I know Montez Sweat got a sack early in the first quarter, uh uh against against the backup, but outside of that, we really didn't get no we really didn't get no constant pressure on the quarterback.
18:33
SPEAKER_02: And hey, if it's any if it's any constellation, the rook jack jack Thieleman had 10 tackles, eight solos at a at a hit.
18:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, dude is a rookie, so if if if that's what we got to look forward to and other guys come around, man.
18:50
SPEAKER_02: Uh this 34 points will be something that I hopefully think that we could put in the rearview mirror.
18:56
SPEAKER_03: But hey, him and Mohammed played well today.
18:59
SPEAKER_03: Man, that's what I was about to say.
19:01
SPEAKER_03: Oh man, both of them play well.
19:04
SPEAKER_03: They both hungry and young.
19:05
SPEAKER_03: They like, hey, I need my spot.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
19:08
SPEAKER_01: I thought both of them played uh well today.
19:11
SPEAKER_01: Hold on, let me see.
19:12
SPEAKER_01: This is kind of covering my face over in the corner.
19:14
SPEAKER_01: I thought both of them played well today.
19:17
SPEAKER_01: I thought defensively, uh, who was lacking was hey, your guy, and I know it's not your guy, uh uh quick, but I thought Jalen Johnson was chasing too many plays uh in this game.
19:33
SPEAKER_01: Uh I didn't concentrate on him a lot to see how he played on some other plays.
19:36
SPEAKER_01: I thought he was chasing too many plays, and I did think um there was a lot of missed tackles on the defense, you know.
19:43
SPEAKER_01: But I like to hustle the defense show because when they missed tackles, sometimes it was the third guy that made the tackle because the second guy missed as well.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: And I thought Stevenson got beat a few times in coverage in this game.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: But as far as Federman and Mohammed, I thought they were very um, they played strong games today, uh, both of them.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: And but the the linebacker play, it was I don't know, it was kind of non non-script.
20:15
SPEAKER_04: I mean, I don't even really remember they didn't really they didn't run the ball like that though.
20:20
SPEAKER_04: I was just getting ready to say our top three tacklers were Dana Man, Tyreek Stevenson, and Cam Lewis.
20:27
SPEAKER_04: Okay, it's because they were chasing, trying to make tackles after they caught the ball.
20:32
SPEAKER_04: Devin Bush had Devin Bush had two tackles, four assists, uh Jalen Johnson, one tackle, two assists, one fourth fumble, and everybody else had a tackle.
20:46
SPEAKER_03: Wait, in that in that fourth fumble, put a asterisk said his ass was burnt.
20:52
SPEAKER_03: And Stealan came back, grabbed the guy, and Johnson finally got there and knocked the ball out.
20:57
SPEAKER_03: We gotta put that in there because he was burnt.
21:00
SPEAKER_04: TJ Edwards had one TJ Edwards had one assist.
21:04
SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, it was really our DB.
21:08
SPEAKER_04: So that lets you know that you know, outside of the passes being caught in the run game, they was getting to the third, second and third level on the defense.
21:18
SPEAKER_04: So that's something that we gotta and and and the thing about that is we took Carolina at the run game early because they got they fell behind.
21:26
SPEAKER_04: So they didn't even get a chance to really run the football as well as they could because Chuba Herbert is a pretty decent bat when he gets going.
21:35
SPEAKER_04: But because we wind up because we wind up putting them in a hole, they had to rely a lot on Bryce, Bryce Young, who threw for over 300.
21:42
SPEAKER_04: So if you look at uh again, it's week one.
21:45
SPEAKER_04: It's week one.
21:46
SPEAKER_01: So if you look at the phone, but the penalties, I thought Diel, you know, I know he had like two or two or three penalties.
21:52
SPEAKER_01: I thought he was probably the most disruptive on the offensive line.
21:56
SPEAKER_01: He actually flashed a few times.
21:58
SPEAKER_01: He was actually Closing in on the quarterback.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: But still, like last year, the Bears, at least that off defensive line, they lack speed.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: They don't have closing speed to really make those sacks, you know, and this is probably why the league went to more of those slimmer defensive ends that kind of almost like look like basketball players, because as quarterbacks got more athletic and faster and mobile, that type of defensive end has been, you know, a great adjustment to that.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: So the Bears' defensive ends to me still are a step slow where Bryce was able to.
22:36
SPEAKER_01: And Bryce is not a fast guy at all, but there was times where he stepped up in the pocket and took off, and it was just like, man, is this like little children chasing him or what?
22:47
SPEAKER_02: That's the scary part because I mean you can sit up and talk about no defensive pass rush.
22:52
SPEAKER_02: If we had a pass rush uh online, maybe it looks different, but the run is inexcusable.
22:58
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they just look like a they're like a step slow.
23:02
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know what is.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: I just hope that they can fix this, man, because that could be ugly against a really good offensive team.
23:10
SPEAKER_04: Well, we still gotta think about it too, is week one.
23:13
SPEAKER_04: So yeah, you know, as you know.
23:17
SPEAKER_04: We started what oh and two last year.
23:19
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, right.
23:19
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
23:21
SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
23:21
SPEAKER_04: We started on two last year, it's come out and put up 59 points week one.
23:26
SPEAKER_04: Like I say, you know, it's it's some negatives, but it's a it's it's it was some positive things done today, too.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, one positive thing is Khalif Raymond.
23:34
SPEAKER_00: That dude, he he felt like he was back with the Trait Lions or something.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: That's who got uh eight catches, eight catches.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: Uh he participated in special teams, did a good run back, and he's an old vet.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: Uh he's actually teaching some things behind the scenes.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: So I'm excited about having somebody with his stature on the on the squad as well.
23:55
SPEAKER_01: I mean, think about this.
23:56
SPEAKER_01: Yo, your offense was so efficient today that your quarterback only threw the ball 29 times, and you got 59 points.
24:07
SPEAKER_01: You didn't get no big sixes or nothing to score from.
24:09
SPEAKER_01: You didn't get like a special team score, nothing like that.
24:13
SPEAKER_01: But you got 59 points from your quarterback only throwing the ball 29 times.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's a negative thing within itself, right?
24:23
SPEAKER_04: He said, What yeah, like you said, eight eight touchdowns.
24:26
SPEAKER_04: Eight touchdowns.
24:26
SPEAKER_04: Eight touchdowns.
24:27
SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's a lot.
24:29
SPEAKER_00: Can we put some of those in our pocket for later on?
24:35
SPEAKER_04: We had six Russian touchdowns today.
24:38
SPEAKER_04: That's you don't see that.
24:40
SPEAKER_04: I mean, that's that's college.
24:42
SPEAKER_04: You don't see that in the NFL a lot.
24:45
SPEAKER_04: You know, those you know, those are college type numbers where you know you got running backs and wide receivers combining for six, seven, eight, nine touchdowns.
24:52
SPEAKER_04: You don't see that in the NFL a lot.
24:54
SPEAKER_03: Well, no, that that was the quarterback, the quarterback and both running backs.
24:57
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes.
24:59
SPEAKER_03: Uh they they the ones that got the six rushing.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yes.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: Caleb had two, two have had three, and Monagaye, Monaje, as I call him.
25:07
SPEAKER_05: He had one.
25:09
SPEAKER_03: Uh man, that that was a that was a dominant performance.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: Dominant.
25:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you don't know.
25:16
SPEAKER_02: So you don't see that often.
25:17
SPEAKER_02: You know who he reminds me?
25:18
SPEAKER_02: He reminds me of not stature, but just style, is Mike Allstott.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: It's like when Allstott would hit you, he would hit you like right as you tackle and take him three, four yards after about four or five plays.
25:30
SPEAKER_02: Now your defensive play is chest hurt, body hurt.
25:34
SPEAKER_02: It's like it seemed like when Manon guy gets the ball, the dude's like, oh man, here he comes again.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: And and right now it's something like 80, almost 80 degrees or whatever.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: Just imagine what it's gonna look like in the wintertime.
25:46
SPEAKER_02: If you think this 224 yards, this could be interesting this year with our running game.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:52
SPEAKER_00: One of the things I like about Manon guy is they had uh over the summer, they had a little uh hand grip.
25:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, size where they gave all of the bears the hand grip to see who had the strongest grip.
26:04
SPEAKER_00: And Manon guy got the strongest grip on the team.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: And you gotta remember this.
26:09
SPEAKER_00: All of the offensive linemen, uh, this dude, he can hold on to the ball, and he's just he's just tough.
26:17
SPEAKER_04: This kid has not fumbled, this kid has not fumbled a football since high school.
26:20
SPEAKER_04: So he went four years, he's been with four years of college, and so far two years in the NFL without putting the ball on the ground.
26:29
SPEAKER_04: So that means I want to say something.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: I just I just want to let you know you don't want to be winning the grip contest, guys.
26:37
SPEAKER_03: I just want to know I'm just saying that's one that I don't want to win.
26:44
SPEAKER_03: You you can have it unless you GI Joe.
26:50
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you hey, you guys can win.
26:52
SPEAKER_03: Hey, I'll defer to you.
26:54
SPEAKER_03: Go ahead.
26:55
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm not even participating.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: Hey, come on, let's get back to the show.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: What did we got nothing, man?
27:09
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm excited about the the win.
27:12
SPEAKER_01: You know, offensively, I just want to go back to talk about a lot of positive that I see from the offense.
27:17
SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh Jay pointed out earlier that Coaster Loveland had no catches either him or playing.
27:24
SPEAKER_01: And you think about your offense ran that efficient without that they kept pointing out your number one receiver from a boy number one in reception last year, didn't catch the ball, but you didn't even have to go into I don't even think Sam Ross did he play today at all?
27:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he did.
27:40
SPEAKER_04: He yeah, he did.
27:41
SPEAKER_04: He missed he missed the key block too.
27:43
SPEAKER_04: He missed a key block early in the game.
27:45
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay, yeah, he missed the key block early in the game.
27:48
SPEAKER_04: But I don't see him being on the field a lot right now.
27:51
SPEAKER_04: Um, I think he's still in that learning phase of this offense, but he was out there today and he and I did he missed the key block on a play, and I was like, ah, that's the rookie, he didn't miss one.
28:04
SPEAKER_04: But uh as you were saying, you know, and not only did Loveland have a catch, he only had one target.
28:13
SPEAKER_04: It was on the it was on the second and four, I believe, and and and they threw him a slant, uh Caleb threw him a slant, and that was the only target he had, and that was in the third quarter, so he didn't get targeted the entire first half.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: You know what that tells me?
28:29
SPEAKER_00: That tells me that uh the bears got a good tight end room.
28:32
SPEAKER_00: Cole comet can be used as a safety blanket, and the thing about it, he usually does not draw passes.
28:39
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we all talking about next year he might not be at the bears or whatever.
28:44
SPEAKER_00: Cole comet is a he's a jail man.
28:47
SPEAKER_00: I think we might want to keep him here for long term.
28:50
SPEAKER_03: I don't know if he's not gonna be here because uh I saw a video today with Ben Johnson talking about him, and he said he's the glue.
28:58
SPEAKER_03: He he he he relies on him for a lot of stuff as far as like you know, visually and things on the field.
29:04
SPEAKER_03: He said he relies on him for a lot of stuff.
29:07
SPEAKER_03: He said he's a great locker room guy and a great guy to have around, so you know it might come down to contract, but I don't think they're trying to move from too too much.
29:17
SPEAKER_03: I hope not.
29:18
SPEAKER_01: It's a great thing your quarterback loves you and kind of almost I think he identifies Kamet as his best friend on the team.
29:27
SPEAKER_01: So that that oh, I guess between him and um um the backup quarterback.
29:32
SPEAKER_01: Um, I can't think of his name right now.
29:34
SPEAKER_01: Tyson Badge, the third string guy, case can him correct Case Kenneth, probably is then his code command, but anyway, looking at I mean that was a that was a nice catch for command in the end zone to see him lay out like that.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: I mean, those were a lot of positive what we saw today was the catches that we saw last year that players were dropping, they actually held on to.
29:58
SPEAKER_01: And I mean that catch by doomsday might be uh let somebody else do something else.
30:03
SPEAKER_01: That may be the catch of the week.
30:05
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
30:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're right.
30:07
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you're right.
30:08
SPEAKER_01: But I think you do that in Fox a whole lot, so that's why I was surprised in the NFL he had not been able to win those contested catches.
30:16
SPEAKER_01: But that's the difference between just being a good receiver and a great receiver is contested balls, right?
30:23
SPEAKER_01: Because you could catch, I mean, you know, everybody should be able to catch balls if they're not uh if they're open, but it's when you're in that tight coverage.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: Can your quarterback trust you in those moments to just throw it up and believe you're gonna come down with it?
30:37
SPEAKER_01: So, man, this was just a lot of positive, and I think Caleb solidified to even people around the league, he deserved that Madden cover he got.
30:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think so.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: As much as you can do that with one game, so we'll we'll kind of see how they how that goes.
30:58
SPEAKER_04: Right, but but I'm just glad that the Bears were able to, and we got the Titans.
31:04
SPEAKER_04: We didn't play the Titans today.
31:06
SPEAKER_04: That thing says 59-17 Titans.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I saw the things.
31:10
SPEAKER_04: We beat them too.
31:14
SPEAKER_00: Anybody can get it with with 59, you beat a whole bunch of teams in one game.
31:18
SPEAKER_00: She beat everybody this week.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: You beat everybody this week.
31:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I've been at that on that whole time.
31:25
SPEAKER_01: That some people are looking like, man, they don't even know who they was playing.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: Well, you still think you're not don't really matter.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, even with all those points, man, at certain points the game got boring.
31:40
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it did.
31:41
SPEAKER_04: You know, it was you know, it was competitive coming out at halftime.
31:44
SPEAKER_04: And then once the Bears got up three scores, I was like, okay, and then they just continued.
31:48
SPEAKER_04: Then when uh Swift got the last touchdown, I was like, okay, I was like, all gas, no breaks.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: Here we go.
31:54
SPEAKER_04: Right, here we go, all gas, no breaks.
31:56
SPEAKER_04: I like that.
31:57
SPEAKER_04: I like that because in the past, you know, we would have been running the football, kneeling down, you know.
32:04
SPEAKER_04: So all I like it.
32:06
SPEAKER_04: I like it.
32:07
SPEAKER_04: Keep your foot on the neck until the clock strikes zero.
32:12
SPEAKER_04: And I like that.
32:13
SPEAKER_00: Remember last year against the Cincinnati Bengals, yeah, we were up three touchdowns with like five minutes left, yeah, and ended up giving up three touchdowns in five minutes.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, that's that's never a good omen, but uh this year I saw the Bears trying to play strategic football, run out the clock.
32:36
SPEAKER_00: They didn't expect uh you know, Swift to uh run for another touchdown, but so be it.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: They at least tried to, you know, exercise four-quarter formation, uh, run out the clock, get a couple first downs, and make them use all their timeouts.
32:52
SPEAKER_00: So I that's one of the things I liked about the Bears because at least they're trying to get smarter, uh especially after all those bonehead calls that Ben Johnson was making in that first half.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: So he got it in them at least.
33:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're a lot more efficient, they're a lot more efficient this year.
33:11
SPEAKER_02: It just seems like the way that they play, it's like they trust the plays and know what the plays they're gonna get their stats.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: So they don't think about the stats.
33:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, you got your guys sitting out here basically praying to get an opportunity to get some good blocks, and that's what they're thinking about, knowing the plays are gonna work.
33:30
SPEAKER_02: We get this as a result.
33:32
SPEAKER_02: I'd like to see it happen for the rest of the year.
33:34
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're gonna go up against some better offenses, but when you got guys that are buying in like that, man, them little like 50-50 or 75-25 plays are gonna always be in your favor, man.
33:45
SPEAKER_02: If you just put your head down and just uh play hard.
33:49
SPEAKER_04: Well, I know you know we got some upcoming games coming up, but you say guy, you say up against a better offense.
33:55
SPEAKER_04: I mean, right's already throw for 360, 361, I think he did.
33:59
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, 361 yards.
34:01
SPEAKER_04: That's yeah, 23 and 37 for 370, 361 and three touchdowns.
34:07
SPEAKER_03: That was against the Bears, though.
34:08
SPEAKER_03: That don't count.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: They had a total, they had a total of 400 something yards.
34:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh, what was it?
34:16
SPEAKER_02: 400 uh Panthers.
34:19
SPEAKER_02: Shoot, they had a lot, man.
34:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they had a lot of yards.
34:23
SPEAKER_03: They did.
34:24
SPEAKER_03: Most of those plays were against Jalen Johnson and Tyreek Stevens.
34:28
SPEAKER_04: They had 470, they have they had 478 total yards to offense.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they did.
34:35
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: Man, Dennis Allen must be over there having a conniption.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: Yo, this is not who he has been traditionally as a as a coach.
34:44
SPEAKER_00: I I guess he's gonna love to actually have defensive players on his team at some point.
34:49
SPEAKER_04: But the one thing I can say about the defense, they did get off the field on third down.
34:56
SPEAKER_04: That's big.
34:57
SPEAKER_04: Uh the Panthers were four for nine on third down.
35:00
SPEAKER_04: Uh an 0 for one on in for in fourth down.
35:03
SPEAKER_04: So they the the defense did get off the field, but you know, like I said, you know, it's what we talked about all summer, you know, uh no uh no pass rush, you know, no press on the quarterback.
35:17
SPEAKER_04: So we did get two sacks today, and we did get three turnovers, but like I say, it's week one, everybody filling each other out, and actually the Bears felt pretty good because they put 59 points on the board.
35:29
SPEAKER_04: But uh, you know, like you say, Keith, it's a win.
35:32
SPEAKER_04: I ain't gonna apologize for a win in the NFL.
35:35
SPEAKER_04: Uh you only play who's in front of you, the Carolina Panthers, for what it's worth.
35:40
SPEAKER_04: They was the NFC South Champs last year.
35:43
SPEAKER_04: This is the first place schedule that we playing this year, and they was one of the first place teams on that schedule.
35:49
SPEAKER_04: So you can only play who's in front of you.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: So, Jay, does that mean you're gonna get defense today?
35:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, I couldn't.
35:57
SPEAKER_01: This is the difference of how how how you play from the previous year in the mentality.
36:03
SPEAKER_01: Because if you look at last year, that was a team that had come off consecutive years of losing and to have long games in the previous season, and was so they had to open the last chef leave against the Vikings.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: That was a game that when even when we were talking about as it was going on, you kind of felt the Bears had this game one, the Vikings game last year.
36:24
SPEAKER_01: But because that reality had to be focused, they kind of blew that game down the stretch.
36:31
SPEAKER_01: They made man look like he knew how to play, right?
36:33
SPEAKER_01: Because it's like you had a fourth-quarter rally, and the bears blew that game then the second game last year when they played Detroit, they just looked like they were unprepared at all.
36:43
SPEAKER_01: But it's a difference when you coming in this season feeling like we are winners.
36:49
SPEAKER_01: The coach talking about, like somebody mentioned where Jalen Johnson said, he's never had a coach here that talked about Super Bowls.
36:57
SPEAKER_01: So that's even that thought process of saying versus like, hey, let's, you know, we we can make the playoff.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: He's talking about Super Bowl, right?
37:06
SPEAKER_01: Hell was just a playoff.
37:07
SPEAKER_01: So hey, if you shoot for something, you know what I mean?
37:10
SPEAKER_01: We'll be happy for that, right?
37:12
SPEAKER_01: Take a look how many seasons we would have to just have a winning season, not even may not necessarily be a playoff season.
37:19
SPEAKER_01: Oh man, we won nine games, we nine eighth this season, man.
37:23
SPEAKER_01: We're getting close, right?
37:25
SPEAKER_01: You know, now we could be actually saying, man, anything beyond at least a playoff is expected.
37:31
SPEAKER_03: The playoffs should be expected.
37:33
SPEAKER_03: Hey, wait, hold on, let me stop you right here because you're talking about Jalen Johnson.
37:38
SPEAKER_03: I don't think no coach ever came in and told Velas Jones about no Super Bowl either.
37:44
SPEAKER_03: You know, when you ain't Super Bowl caliber players, they don't talk to you about the Super Bowl.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: I mean, he was talking to Caleb.
37:53
SPEAKER_03: He probably he probably still ain't talking to Jalen Johnson about the Super Bowl.
37:56
SPEAKER_03: He probably overheard him talking to Caleb.
37:59
SPEAKER_03: And why you so hard?
38:00
SPEAKER_03: Why you so hard on Jalen Johnson, man?
38:02
SPEAKER_03: Because he can't cover, and I've been saying this for years, and now y'all looking at this game like, damn.
38:09
SPEAKER_03: That ain't what the national media saying.
38:12
SPEAKER_04: I said that ain't but that ain't that ain't what the national media say.
38:16
SPEAKER_03: Because they ain't watching the game.
38:17
SPEAKER_03: They they they ain't played.
38:18
SPEAKER_03: A lot of them ain't never played, they ain't put on no pass, they ain't been in no huddle, they ain't had to cover nobody.
38:23
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you from what I know, I look and I say, he can't cover.
38:26
SPEAKER_03: He's a zone corner, and on the plate when he got the fumble, it'll go down as he got a fumble, but he got burnt.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: On the touchdown run, they don't show it, but he got juke on the touchdown run.
38:38
SPEAKER_03: It don't say all that.
38:39
SPEAKER_03: I'm watching the game from a different perspective, especially because I played DB.
38:43
SPEAKER_03: I know what a good DB looks like, and he's not that.
38:46
SPEAKER_03: But that's oh, he's got stats.
38:48
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you got all those tackles because you can't cover.
38:51
SPEAKER_03: I didn't have a lot of tackles when I played.
38:53
SPEAKER_03: I had a lot of pass breakups and interceptions.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: That's great, man.
38:57
SPEAKER_02: I just got a DM, man, for bust the screen, man, according to you, man.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: He said, Listen, Quick, let me tell you something, man.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: That boy can catch a ball anytime he wants to.
39:06
SPEAKER_02: His screen, he's still his screen like this, he don't even play football no more.
39:10
SPEAKER_02: He like, look, Jalen Johnson is that dude.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: He really that dude.
39:14
SPEAKER_02: He's crazy.
39:15
SPEAKER_02: He's good.
39:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what you're talking about.
39:17
SPEAKER_00: Quick's got a point, though, because if the receiver that you guarding catches the ball and you tackle him, people will get you you get credit for a tackle, but that's not a good thing.
39:27
SPEAKER_00: You're supposed to stop him from catching the ball, right?
39:30
SPEAKER_00: But when we have a DB that ends up with a high number of tackles in a passing game, that's that's probably not a good indication.
39:38
SPEAKER_03: Perfect example.
39:39
SPEAKER_03: Like I said, on the play, he got the fumble when he caused the fumble.
39:43
SPEAKER_03: He was burnt by five to six yards, but he got a fumble recovery.
39:48
SPEAKER_03: No, he was still burnt by five to six yards.
39:51
SPEAKER_03: Of all, he wouldn't have got a fumble recovery if he was dead defending the pass.
39:57
SPEAKER_03: It it works out that way.
39:58
SPEAKER_03: I mean, you you get a stat for something you did bad.
40:02
SPEAKER_03: Come on.
40:03
SPEAKER_03: I like him though, man.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: Let's get some grades out here.
40:08
SPEAKER_01: Let's get some grades on our offense.
40:09
SPEAKER_01: I guess I started off.
40:10
SPEAKER_01: Man, I guess.
40:12
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
40:13
SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's they gotta they gotta they got the the offense gets uh on the roll, they get advanced placement A, right?
40:24
SPEAKER_01: Low A, right?
40:24
SPEAKER_03: That's a van's placement A to get here's the crazy part.
40:29
SPEAKER_03: I don't even know why we gotta give grades for the offense.
40:31
SPEAKER_03: We shouldn't have to, especially after this.
40:34
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
40:35
SPEAKER_03: What what else do you have?
40:36
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know what?
40:37
SPEAKER_03: We all talk about Plank and his grading system.
40:40
SPEAKER_03: It's 59 points.
40:42
SPEAKER_03: Offense gets a D.
40:47
SPEAKER_01: Uh defensively, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a defense.
40:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, he said D, I'm gonna get a defense a D because you gave up 37 points in this game.
40:56
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm gonna give him a C C minus because two you gave him two short fields, and two of them wouldn't really done, but it's still a C minus because they really uh they still had they missed too many tackles.
41:07
SPEAKER_01: I know it was early in the season, but 37 points in a game is still a lot of points.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: Uh coaching, I give coaching an A overall.
41:17
SPEAKER_01: That's what I got.
41:20
SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm gonna get off.
41:24
SPEAKER_04: Excuse me.
41:24
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna get an offense at eight.
41:26
SPEAKER_04: Um, I think they came out and they executed.
41:29
SPEAKER_04: Uh a lot of they we had we had 12 penalties.
41:34
SPEAKER_04: I can't remember if majority of those penalties were on offense or defense because I didn't look it up.
41:39
SPEAKER_04: But we did have 12 penalties.
41:40
SPEAKER_04: But the offense looked efficient.
41:42
SPEAKER_04: The running game was outstanding.
41:44
SPEAKER_04: K-Look, 72% completion, eight or eight on third down.
41:49
SPEAKER_04: Um, you know, two passing touchdowns, two on the ground.
41:53
SPEAKER_04: So I do definitely give the offense an A.
41:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna get a uh defensive C because like you say, we did give up 37 points, albeit two of those was on short fields.
42:06
SPEAKER_04: Uh we did miss a lot of tackles, uh, no pressure on the quarterback.
42:10
SPEAKER_04: You know, we did get two sacks, we did get three turnovers.
42:13
SPEAKER_04: So that keeps them out of the D range.
42:16
SPEAKER_04: Uh the coaching I'm gonna give a B because I think uh Ben hasn't learned from the playoff game last year, which was the last game we played in, that you put points on the board when you can, and when you can't get the fourth down, you kick the football.
42:32
SPEAKER_04: There is no way on Guys Green Earth in the NFL do you go for it on fourth and four inside on your own 22-yard line or fourth and three or whatever it was.
42:41
SPEAKER_04: That's that's just inexcusable.
42:43
SPEAKER_04: I I don't care how much you feel like you can beat the opponent.
42:48
SPEAKER_04: It's just some things that just don't make sense.
42:51
SPEAKER_04: And that didn't make sense to me.
42:53
SPEAKER_04: Uh so overall, I'm gonna give the coaching staff a B.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I got you.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: Uh offense against an A plus, not just an A.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: Uh they kept uh Caleb Williams uh clean for the most part.
43:09
SPEAKER_00: He had a good pocket to throw, a lot of rush yards.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: That was the most I've ever seen the Bears put up.
43:16
SPEAKER_00: So uh we want to replicate that a couple more times this year.
43:20
SPEAKER_00: Uh coaching, uh, I'm giving the coaches a B.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: Um those are there's a fine line between being aggressive versus being bonehead.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh you going for a fourth and one at your own 40-yard line in the second quarter.
43:36
SPEAKER_00: That's that's ridiculous.
43:38
SPEAKER_00: That tells me he hasn't learned anything.
43:39
SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about Ben Johnson.
43:41
SPEAKER_00: He hasn't learned anything since that Rams game when kicking a field goal early could have made the difference for the for the game.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: And uh defense, uh defense gets a C minus.
43:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think it was good that they got turnovers and and all of that, but we have to have some kind of pass rush, and we can't be laid.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: By uh all our our secondary getting all of the tackles.
44:04
SPEAKER_00: I didn't see the linebackers show up.
44:07
SPEAKER_00: I I seldom saw any pressure coming from uh the defensive linemen either.
44:11
SPEAKER_00: So we've got a lot of improvement that we can still work on there.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: And 37 points is never a good thing to give up.
44:19
SPEAKER_02: Well, 552 yards, 10 to 14 on third down convergence.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, A plus is a given for offense.
44:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh defense, I'm probably gonna go with a C minus.
44:32
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there were some bright spots, but we just can't give up 34 points, even though we had Carolina, and Carolina's like no joke.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: Uh, special teams, I get them a B plus just on uh jihadi, man.
44:43
SPEAKER_02: That that was a ridiculous hit, man.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: Ridiculous.
44:47
SPEAKER_02: Uh coaching, I'm probably gonna give a C as well.
44:49
SPEAKER_02: Too.
44:50
SPEAKER_02: I do understand the intent that he probably just psychologically want to put them in the space of saying, hey, well, we get deep in the season and we need to make this play.
44:59
SPEAKER_02: I got trust that you can make it.
45:01
SPEAKER_02: Now, him doing it in the first quarter, it's close.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: It was kind of a bonehead play, so that's pretty much all I got.
45:11
SPEAKER_03: All right.
45:14
SPEAKER_03: Now that we've heard everybody else's statements, the names in this in this defense will remain will remain nameless to protect the innocent.
45:27
SPEAKER_03: All right.
45:29
SPEAKER_03: So we gotta we gotta get it offensive A.
45:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we talked about it, ain't much to even keep going.
45:35
SPEAKER_03: I say A plus 59 points.
45:38
SPEAKER_03: NFL game, hard to do.
45:40
SPEAKER_03: Thought thought at one point they were playing against Fingers defense.
45:43
SPEAKER_03: Uh, but you know, that's beyond that.
45:46
SPEAKER_03: Defensively, the defense will get a D from me because for the reasons why we're saying not to give them a D, we gotta still give them a D.
45:56
SPEAKER_03: Bonehead penalties.
45:58
SPEAKER_03: That that's that bimba don't break, sometimes breaks, and then we put duct tape on it.
46:04
SPEAKER_03: We can't keep continuing to do that.
46:06
SPEAKER_03: Coaching wise, coaching, they get a C because Dennis Allen.
46:11
SPEAKER_03: I mean, the Panthers are not a premier NFL team.
46:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, they're they're wide receivers.
46:19
SPEAKER_03: We play Justin Jefferson next week.
46:23
SPEAKER_03: So we gotta do something schematically, and a lot of that with been with with Johnson's call and Allen's scheme, they just gotta get a they gotta get a C.
46:37
SPEAKER_03: We still we got a lot of stuff to get better at.
46:40
SPEAKER_03: It is week one, as we said, but we gotta get better, and we're gonna start to play better teams.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: So we gotta get better.
46:51
SPEAKER_01: That's what I think.
46:52
SPEAKER_01: We got Mark Chen.
46:54
SPEAKER_01: I don't think the D was as bad as they may have looked.
46:58
SPEAKER_00: 37 points, they were that bad.
47:01
SPEAKER_01: Okay, we got another comment from Mar.
47:04
SPEAKER_01: I actually saw pressure on the quarterback from the defense end that was a little slippery.
47:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I saw some pressure too.
47:09
SPEAKER_01: I thought they just couldn't close.
47:11
SPEAKER_01: It was a few times where they got pressure, but it seemed like a step slow.
47:15
SPEAKER_01: But you know, that's still part of the process, right?
47:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, pressure, it unless it causes a turnover speed up, but if you get pressure and can't bring the guy down and he can stop and plant his feet and still throw, it's it's it's not as valuable as pressure and making a guy make a throw that he doesn't want.
47:34
SPEAKER_01: So if pressure can't step up from pressure, that means uh your interior is not doing a good enough job keeping them in front of them because he that that quarterback is able to step, lose any pressure, move up in the pocket, and if he had to take off some run, he was able to do that.
47:53
SPEAKER_01: And I was talking about Bryce Young on Friday that I thought he was developing into a you know pretty good quarterback that he's actually now starting to run, and you did see him do that.
48:05
SPEAKER_01: Uh coming up this week facing Minnesota.
48:08
SPEAKER_01: Somebody just mentioned and I think it was Quick just mentioned, yeah, you you won't have some dogs at receivers you're gonna have to face.
48:14
SPEAKER_01: But this is gonna be a good matchup for the Bears because, like I did mention earlier, this this was a game that they blew last year and played with the Vikings.
48:23
SPEAKER_01: So let's go into week two and you know, have a good solid game plan.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: And I mean you can't expect no 59 points, I don't believe, you know.
48:32
SPEAKER_01: But you go in there and um have a solid performance.
48:35
SPEAKER_03: Hey, Letty, put the put the first comment back up from Shin.
48:40
SPEAKER_03: I got you.
48:41
SPEAKER_03: I think I'm trying to make sure I saw this without I'm trying to make sure.
48:45
SPEAKER_03: Uh what'd it say?
48:48
SPEAKER_03: Uh oh, no, no, not that one.
48:50
SPEAKER_03: The other one, there was another comment he said.
48:53
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so somebody didn't look as bad as it looked.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's one.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: That's worship.
49:00
SPEAKER_03: That sounds like the guy.
49:02
SPEAKER_03: That sounds like the guy that goes to the party and gets drunk and leaves with a chicken the next day.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: He trying to convince his boys.
49:10
SPEAKER_03: She she wasn't that bad looking.
49:12
SPEAKER_03: She wasn't that bad.
49:16
SPEAKER_03: She looked that bad.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: Uh, what was it?
49:26
SPEAKER_01: Shout out where he got hypnotized and he was saying the beautiful things, and everybody was like, Man, what's wrong with Shout?
49:37
SPEAKER_01: Because how was it saying everything?
49:39
SPEAKER_01: But what he was part of the hypnosis.
49:43
SPEAKER_01: So you know, she was a school teacher, so right, you know, so it's restorative justice, right?
49:48
SPEAKER_01: She looked that bad, I mean, back in the day, you used to be like hey, well we had to fight drunk like that.
49:57
SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna tell y'all, we play we play Minnesota next week.
50:00
SPEAKER_04: I don't know how long Kyler Murray is gonna be out, but ain't they not looking good right now?
50:05
SPEAKER_04: Green Bay Justin jumped all over them.
50:07
SPEAKER_04: Oh well, it was just total, but damn.
50:13
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, that's still that's still within range, though.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we're we're going to score.
50:20
SPEAKER_03: Not with Carson Winston as your quarterback.
50:22
SPEAKER_03: No, I'm saying we're going to score, but you still have the you still have the option, and and let's not let's not try to really compare Green Bay secondary to Oz right now.
50:34
SPEAKER_03: That's apples and oranges right now.
50:37
SPEAKER_03: Well, they secondary ain't nothing to holler about either, but I get it.
50:42
SPEAKER_03: No, it's it's a little better than ours.
50:44
SPEAKER_03: I mean, shoot.
50:46
SPEAKER_03: Yep, it's a little better than I we just have more weapons when we play.
50:50
SPEAKER_03: The the good thing about it, like I said, it looked like we're going out there in hockey ships with different lineups.
50:57
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
50:58
SPEAKER_03: We got the we got the ability to throw out eight different players that stood us at all times.
51:04
SPEAKER_03: That's hard to cover.
51:05
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's true.
51:06
SPEAKER_03: Everybody can't do that, but when you got a guy that you can just throw the ball up to and he can make you look silly, you have to prepare for that guy.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, quick is you know, we we played against such and such a so-and-so.
51:20
SPEAKER_00: Do they have a different secondary than lost in that playoff game last year?
51:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: No, what I'm what I'm saying is I'm saying that we got more weapons than most teams.
51:32
SPEAKER_03: Most teams don't have what we got in the NFL, the entire NFL.
51:37
SPEAKER_03: Most we got more than one, most teams got one stud receiver.
51:42
SPEAKER_03: We got three, four, five with two tight ends and two running backs and all that.
51:48
SPEAKER_03: Most teams don't have that.
51:50
SPEAKER_03: So playing against us is difficult in a nutshell.
51:54
SPEAKER_03: But the problem with us is we just gotta get more stopped.
51:58
SPEAKER_03: We don't need to be in no that we found out out.
52:01
SPEAKER_03: We found out out against San Francisco last year.
52:03
SPEAKER_03: We don't we don't need to be in that many shootouts.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't work.
52:08
SPEAKER_03: We don't need to be in that many shootouts.
52:10
SPEAKER_03: We need to start.
52:11
SPEAKER_03: We know that we can call on the offense and say, hey, we need a score right here, and and they could potentially get us that score.
52:18
SPEAKER_03: But now the offense sit down and be like, oh damn, we gotta go right back.
52:23
SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
52:24
SPEAKER_03: Because the defense gave up, we be giving up points and chunks in a hurry.
52:29
SPEAKER_03: I can see we give up a sustained drive or something like that.
52:33
SPEAKER_03: I mean, we be like, man, we didn't get a chance to sit down here, get no water.
52:39
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I'm sorry, go up, right?
52:41
SPEAKER_00: This is this is back to that whole Cincinnati discussion that we had for the last couple years.
52:46
SPEAKER_00: You know, what is it that you investing in?
52:48
SPEAKER_00: The Bears decided to invest in the offensive side of the ball, and it is it is born uh beared fruit.
52:55
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so I think right now our offense is actually set.
52:59
SPEAKER_00: We've got a quarterback, we've got running backs.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're we're happy with the offensive linemen.
53:04
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're happy with the tight end room.
53:06
SPEAKER_00: Now, going forward, and you know, we can't do a whole lot about that until uh the trade deadline of the end of the year, the Bears uh are gonna have to start investing on defense the same way they did on offense.
53:19
SPEAKER_00: We can't uh spend$10 million on offense and$50,000 on defense and think we're gonna get the same thing on both sides of the ball.
53:28
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
53:29
SPEAKER_02: I just noticed something too.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: Jordan Vandenberg didn't even play at all.
53:33
SPEAKER_00: He played.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: He did play.
53:35
SPEAKER_03: Oh, he was playing to get his stats.
53:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you gotta you gotta do something to get some stats.
53:41
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, hey, hey that part, hey, Jalen Johnson got a fumble.
53:47
SPEAKER_03: Jaden Johnson got a fumble.
53:49
SPEAKER_04: That's why I tell people people be so hyped over players in the preseason.
53:52
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, he played because I was looking for him.
53:55
SPEAKER_04: I'm like, oh, okay, else.
53:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna pay attention.
54:00
SPEAKER_04: Shout out to Caden Davis, they called him up, and he he recovered a fumble.
54:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so he did just as much as Jenny Johnson did.
54:08
SPEAKER_04: So there you go, quick.
54:08
SPEAKER_04: There you go.
54:09
SPEAKER_04: I say it correct.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hey, quick.
54:11
SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know what?
54:12
SPEAKER_01: You you didn't have to this show this.
54:14
SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, this is a uh different season.
54:16
SPEAKER_01: You did not have to make your annual every few games announcement.
54:22
SPEAKER_01: Don't go there and y'all be taking over and causing us to lose the game.
54:27
SPEAKER_01: We had a takeover in Carolina and actually won.
54:30
SPEAKER_01: Man, that's an even new one.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Because I was at the every game, those takeovers, you'd be like, Oh man, see y'all taking over.
54:37
SPEAKER_03: I ain't even hear about this one.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: This must have been a light takeover.
54:41
SPEAKER_00: No, you saw everybody in the stands with Bears jerseys on.
54:44
SPEAKER_03: So oh, that's because they probably from here.
54:47
SPEAKER_04: I was listening on the radio and they said they was expecting 60 of the crowd to be Bears fans.
54:53
SPEAKER_04: And I know a lot of people that went to Carolina this weekend, and that's way over the case.
54:59
SPEAKER_03: A flight to Carolina only 35.
55:02
SPEAKER_03: I mean, if that they trying to, it's like the love, but when you walk on, they're like, Come on, come on, come on on, come on, just come on.
55:11
SPEAKER_03: Well, you we we're gonna drop you off in Carolina, okay.
55:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
55:17
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55:23
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55:25
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55:31
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55:39
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55:43
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55:47
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55:52
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55:54
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56:02
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56:03
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56:22
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57:02
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57:10
SPEAKER_04: No, start the start the season off one and oh, that's always a good feeling.
57:16
SPEAKER_04: That's always a good feeling.
57:17
SPEAKER_04: Now you come home, now you can come home and try to take care of business and get your season off right to a two-o start, uh, which would be two conference games and one division game, which is always very important.
57:30
SPEAKER_04: It's always very important.
57:32
SPEAKER_04: So, so yeah, if we can come home and prepare for the Vikings and um get another win and let's get the train going.
57:40
SPEAKER_04: Let's get the train going.
57:41
SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and I can care less what problems having over there.
57:44
SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
57:45
SPEAKER_04: All gas, no breaks, baby.
57:46
SPEAKER_03: All gas, no breaks.
57:48
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to New Orleans for not taking the time, dummies.
57:57
SPEAKER_04: But you know what, but you know what before we leave.
57:59
SPEAKER_04: I like that though.
58:00
SPEAKER_04: I I like I like them going for the win.
58:02
SPEAKER_04: I like them going for the win.
58:04
SPEAKER_04: I guess they whole thing was like, you know what?
58:06
SPEAKER_04: We're a young, we a young team.
58:08
SPEAKER_04: We came from behind.
58:09
SPEAKER_04: Let's try to win this thing.
58:11
SPEAKER_04: So shout out to them for doing it.
58:13
SPEAKER_04: I had no problem with them uh trying to go for the win.
58:16
SPEAKER_03: Man, I'm I'm gonna take the tie because number one, you play in that sucky conference.
58:20
SPEAKER_03: So every win or tie is good.
58:24
SPEAKER_03: Now, if you're gonna go for two, you better have a better damn play than that.
58:28
SPEAKER_03: The nigga didn't get the damn ball off.
58:30
SPEAKER_03: You better have a better play than that.
58:33
SPEAKER_04: Like, I was like, Wait a minute, sign up for them coming back in time.
58:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were down 21-nothing that's what I'm like.
58:43
SPEAKER_03: Hey, yes, but but see, here's the thing when it comes down to the playoffs.
58:48
SPEAKER_03: I'm like, Detroit could potentially be a playoff team that takes me out.
58:53
SPEAKER_03: I'm taking the tie to mess their record up, not mine.
58:56
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I'm a young team, I'm gonna try to sneak it up.
58:59
SPEAKER_01: That tie factor in pretty strange when it comes to the playoff, right?
59:02
SPEAKER_01: Because you have less you have one less loss than a team that played the same amount of game, so it's a it's a right, it's a tricky situation because you saw that last year where uh I forget this team had a tie last year, and they ended up that was the difference of them going to the playoff because they had a uh a better winner percentage.
59:22
SPEAKER_01: But I agree with what Jay said.
59:24
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59:25
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59:40
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59:44
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59:49
SPEAKER_01: Hey, anything else we talk about?
59:51
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
59:54
SPEAKER_01: All right.
59:55
SPEAKER_01: Hey, until next time, peace.