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- 0:20Speaker 1: What's up, New Hampshire? Welcome to Pod Save America. I'm
- 0:28Speaker 1: Jon Favreau.
- 0:31Speaker 2: I'm Melissa Mastromonaco. I'm John Lovett.
- 0:39Speaker 3: I'm Tommy Vitor.
- 0:42Speaker 4: I'm Dan Pfeiffer.
- 0:45Speaker 1: Later in the show, we'll talk to one of the
- 0:47Speaker 1: many candidates running to be the Democratic nominee for president.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Washington Governor Jay Inslee is here.
- 0:58Speaker 5: All right.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Let's talk about the news from this weekend.
- 1:03Speaker 1: President has been tweeting up a storm, including one with
- 1:07Speaker 1: lots of capital letters and exclamation points, where he assures us, quote,
- 1:11Speaker 1: I am not frustrated.
- 1:13Speaker 3: I am not frustrated.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I'm not frustrated. You're frustrated. You're shouting. I'm not shouting.
- 1:23Speaker 2: Why are you shouting? I'm making a scene? What do
- 1:26Speaker 2: you call this?
- 1:30Speaker 1: But his most notable tweet was about Minnesota Representative Ilhan Omar,
- 1:34Speaker 1: who's recently been the target of multiple death threats and
- 1:37Speaker 1: anti-Muslim bigotry. A few days ago, right-wing internet people dug
- 1:42Speaker 1: up the video of a speech she gave earlier this
- 1:44Speaker 1: year at the Council on American Islamic Relations, where she
- 1:47Speaker 1: said that the Muslim Civil Rights Organization was founded after 9-11, quote,
- 1:51Speaker 1: because they recognized that some people did something and that
- 1:54Speaker 1: all of us were starting to lose access to our
- 1:56Speaker 1: civil liberties. Conservatives expressed outrage over the phrase, some people
- 1:59Speaker 1: did something, and then Trump tweeted a video that spliced
- 2:02Speaker 1: together Omar saying that with images of the World Trade
- 2:08Speaker 1: Center burning on 9-11. Tommy, I want to start with
- 2:12Speaker 1: the conservative reaction to Omar's comments. Representative Dan Crenshaw said
- 2:16Speaker 1: that they were, quote, unbelievable and suggested that Omar was
- 2:19Speaker 1: minimizing 9-11 by refusing to use the word terrorist. Brian
- 2:23Speaker 1: Kilmeade of Fox and Friends said, quote, you have to
- 2:26Speaker 1: wonder if she's an American first. What do you think
- 2:31Speaker 1: Omar meant by her comments, and why did conservatives pick
- 2:35Speaker 1: this old speech to pounce on?
- 2:38Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan Crenshaw, Republican congressman, retweeted this. He was also
- 2:42Speaker 6: the one who famously went on SNL and said Americans
- 2:44Speaker 6: can forgive each other, we can still see the good
- 2:46Speaker 6: in each other. So not a particularly charitable retweet by him.
- 2:49Speaker 6: So Ilhan Omar was speaking to CARE, which is a
- 2:52Speaker 6: Muslim civil rights group, and she was speaking right after
- 2:55Speaker 6: the New Zealand shooter shot up two mosques and killed
- 2:58Speaker 6: 50 people. And she was talking about how, after a
- 3:01Speaker 6: tragic event like this, Muslims are often told to lay low,
- 3:04Speaker 6: maybe don't go to prayers, maybe don't wear your hijab
- 3:06Speaker 6: in public. And ironically, after ISIS does something, or Al-Qaeda
- 3:14Speaker 6: does an attack, they're told the same thing. They're asked
- 3:17Speaker 6: to reassert their commitment to America or denounce all Muslims,
- 3:21Speaker 6: which are things that I'm not asked to do. After
- 3:23Speaker 6: the New Zealand shooter, a white guy, a white terrorist,
- 3:26Speaker 6: shoots up a.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Bunch of Muslims.
- 3:28Speaker 6: And so she's talking about the erosion of civil liberties
- 3:31Speaker 6: for Muslim Americans and how they've been treated like second-class citizens.
- 3:34Speaker 6: And so Dan Crenshaw and Donald Trump sweep in to
- 3:38Speaker 6: prove her point for her and twist her words and
- 3:42Speaker 6: take them out of context. And the reason Trump did
- 3:45Speaker 6: this is political, right? He sees her, and he does
- 3:48Speaker 6: not hear her words. He doesn't hear that what she
- 3:51Speaker 6: said sounds a lot like what George W. Bush said
- 3:54Speaker 6: just after 9-11 when he said, the people who knock
- 3:57Speaker 6: down these buildings will hear from all of us soon.
- 4:00Speaker 3: The people who knock down the buildings? He just called
- 4:02Speaker 3: them the people? That's right.
- 4:04Speaker 6: He sees her skin color, and he sees that she
- 4:08Speaker 6: wears a hijab, and he twists it for political purposes.
- 4:12Speaker 6: And it is so cynical, especially if you know who
- 4:15Speaker 6: she is.
- 4:15Speaker 3: I mean, Ilhan Omar.
- 4:17Speaker 6: Her family left Somalia in 1991. They lived in a
- 4:20Speaker 6: refugee camp for four years because there was a civil
- 4:22Speaker 6: war in Somalia before moving to the United States. Any
- 4:26Speaker 6: hope that she and her family might have had of
- 4:28Speaker 6: moving back to Somalia was destroyed by Al-Qaeda, Al-Shabaab, Islamic
- 4:33Speaker 6: extremist groups. So I think she understands the horrors of terrorism. So,
- 4:38Speaker 6: you know, they tweet these things because it's good politics,
- 4:42Speaker 6: but the unfortunate reality is, you know, it increased risk
- 4:46Speaker 6: to her.
- 4:46Speaker 3: I mean, the The.
- 4:47Speaker 6: Coast Guard individual who was arrested recently, who had a
- 4:51Speaker 6: kill list of a bunch of liberals, had her name
- 4:54Speaker 6: on it. So it's a really cynical, nasty thing to do,
- 4:58Speaker 6: and it's something we all should be condemning.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Also, in that same speech, she talked about how proud
- 5:05Speaker 1: she is of her country, how much she loves America,
- 5:07Speaker 1: and there's a bill to help provide benefits for survivors
- 5:12Speaker 1: of 9-11 and first responders that she is a co-sponsor
- 5:15Speaker 1: of that.
- 5:15Speaker 3: Dan Crenshaw is not.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Alyssa, why was Trump a particularly bad messenger on this
- 5:22Speaker 1: when it comes to 9-11?
- 5:22Speaker 2: Well, like, let's start at the beginning.
- 5:26Speaker 5: Well, no, look, so this all sort of got going
- 5:29Speaker 5: with the New York Post cover of the towers coming
- 5:32Speaker 5: down and Ilhan Omar's comments, right? So who are Donald
- 5:37Speaker 5: Trump's friends? The people who own the New York Post.
- 5:40Speaker 5: which the best part of this was that the Yemeni
- 5:42Speaker 5: bodega owners actually boycotted and are no longer selling the
- 5:45Speaker 5: New York Post currently in their bodegas because of how.
- 5:49Speaker 5: Because of how irresponsible his comments were. But, like, you guys,
- 5:54Speaker 5: what is the one thing we know about Donald Trump?
- 5:57Speaker 2: He's a New Yorker.
- 5:59Speaker 3: Like, he... he's nothing but a New Yorker.
- 6:02Speaker 7: Like, what?
- 6:03Speaker 5: I mean, I guess he's president, but he's, no, but
- 6:05Speaker 5: he is. And so what he did is he turned
- 6:09Speaker 5: the city's, it's like, yes, the country's worst moment, but
- 6:13Speaker 5: the city that he purports, well, I mean, he doesn't
- 6:16Speaker 5: purport anything. I mean, he lived there. And he decides to,
- 6:20Speaker 5: you know, go ahead and just turn something that was
- 6:23Speaker 5: so terrible that he lived through into this, like, disgusting,
- 6:27Speaker 5: spliced political thing video, which I want to know who
- 6:31Speaker 5: paid for. The White House tweeted it out. Did the
- 6:34Speaker 5: White House splice her comments into the towers burning? And
- 6:38Speaker 5: just to say, as someone who is a New Yorker,
- 6:41Speaker 5: but who was not there during 9-11, I did work
- 6:44Speaker 5: in the World Trade Center, and I could not imagine
- 6:47Speaker 5: ever saying anything like what he is doing, and he's
- 6:50Speaker 5: our president.
- 6:52Speaker 1: Well, I would also say, on the day the towers
- 6:55Speaker 1: fell on 9-11, Donald Trump called into a radio station
- 6:59Speaker 1: and bragged that his building would now be the tallest.
- 7:02Speaker 2: Which is actually not true. The tallest building brag on 9-11.
- 7:07Speaker 2: And it's one of the strangest moments because even in
- 7:10Speaker 2: the moment Donald Trump is like, I can't believe how
- 7:13Speaker 2: bad a person I am. Which is rare to hear
- 7:16Speaker 2: in his voice. He also pretended to clean up the
- 7:20Speaker 2: rubble on 9-11. That's another one of his greatest hits.
- 7:22Speaker 2: And even that too, he knows when he lies about
- 7:25Speaker 2: 9-11 that it's even for him.
- 7:29Speaker 3: Wrong.
- 7:30Speaker 2: So when he talked about, he said, I went down
- 7:32Speaker 2: to the rubble, I even cleaned it up a little bit.
- 7:36Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 7:38Speaker 1: He threw in a little bit, like he knew it
- 7:40Speaker 1: was bullshit.
- 7:40Speaker 3: He was like, I helped a little bit.
- 7:42Speaker 5: If he actually did clean it up, he'd be making
- 7:44Speaker 5: them pass the 9-11 responders bill because he'd want in.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:48Speaker 1: He also, by the way, cheated the system to get
- 7:50Speaker 1: a small business loan that is reserved for small businesses
- 7:54Speaker 1: that have been affected by 9-11, and he applied to
- 7:56Speaker 1: change and take that loan for his own company.
- 8:01Speaker 2: Also, and it was like 15 grand, he is not
- 8:05Speaker 2: a billionaire. He's not. These are not billionaire level grips.
- 8:15Speaker 1: So anyway, so this happens, it's gross, it's Donald Trump
- 8:19Speaker 1: being Donald Trump, it's the right wing being the right wing.
- 8:21Speaker 1: So then the controversy moves over to How should the
- 8:25Speaker 1: Democrats respond to this? So this is what's happening over
- 8:28Speaker 1: the weekend. So many, including most of the presidential contenders,
- 8:34Speaker 1: accuse Trump of inciting violence. Others, like Nancy Pelosi, didn't
- 8:40Speaker 1: go quite as far. Some didn't mention Ilhan Omar's name
- 8:44Speaker 1: specifically in their statements. This then caused an uproar. What
- 8:49Speaker 1: do we think about all this, Dan? Start with you.
- 8:53Speaker 2: I don't like any of it.
- 8:56Speaker 7: Just a couple of things that are worth knowing here,
- 8:58Speaker 7: which is one, every Republican who talked about this knew
- 9:02Speaker 7: they were full of shit. This was a completely bad
- 9:05Speaker 7: faith argument. What they do is they troll the internet
- 9:07Speaker 7: and look for someone, something or anything that can fuel
- 9:12Speaker 7: the outrage machine. And if that is a woman of color,
- 9:15Speaker 7: all the better. That's a woman of color wearing a hijab,
- 9:18Speaker 7: That is exactly what they want, because they want to
- 9:19Speaker 7: scare the shit out of white people. That is their
- 9:22Speaker 7: political strategy. So they did that. So then the Democrats
- 9:24Speaker 7: respond to that. And there were great responses. There were
- 9:29Speaker 7: OK responses. And there were some bad responses. And they
- 9:33Speaker 7: ran the gamut from understanding what Trump was trying to do,
- 9:38Speaker 7: which is to, and I think this is very important,
- 9:41Speaker 7: because it is important to understand that the argument is
- 9:45Speaker 7: made in bad faith. In your response, like Kirsten Gillibrand,
- 9:51Speaker 7: who we love, but I did not love her response,
- 9:54Speaker 7: it talks about minimizing what happened on 9-11.
- 9:57Speaker 1: Insinuated that perhaps Ilhan Omar minimized.
- 10:00Speaker 7: The pain of 9-11. You're accepting the bad faith on faith.
- 10:04Speaker 7: You're accepting the premise of the argument. That is a problem.
- 10:09Speaker 7: There are people who mentioned her name. There are people
- 10:10Speaker 7: who didn't mention her name. Democrats got very upset about it.
- 10:14Speaker 7: I have a couple things to say about that. One is,
- 10:17Speaker 7: you have like the Democratic candidate that I want is
- 10:21Speaker 7: one who knows the Republicans are full of shit, but
- 10:23Speaker 7: will call them out on it, right? So it's not just,
- 10:26Speaker 7: are you gonna mention Ilhan Omar's name? Are you going
- 10:29Speaker 7: to attack what Trump said? Is I want someone who
- 10:32Speaker 7: is going to call out why Trump and the Republicans
- 10:35Speaker 7: are doing this, right? This is a game they're gonna
- 10:37Speaker 7: play every single fucking day. So they have to explain
- 10:42Speaker 7: like why is it they wanna scare Americans by distorting
- 10:46Speaker 7: the words of a Muslim American congresswoman. What are they
- 10:49Speaker 7: trying to distract from? Is it the corruption, the criminality,
- 10:52Speaker 7: the fact that we have an energy lobbyist who now
- 10:55Speaker 7: runs the interior of the United States? Like, that is
- 10:57Speaker 7: what they are trying to do, and call it out
- 10:58Speaker 7: for what it is. Like, we have to call out
- 11:00Speaker 7: the game instead of playing the game. The other thing
- 11:01Speaker 7: I'll say is, Democrats got very mad about this. And
- 11:06Speaker 7: I think we should put pressure on our leaders to
- 11:09Speaker 7: do a better job. But we also have to recognize
- 11:11Speaker 7: that the entire fucking world is on fire. And we
- 11:14Speaker 7: are not one killer tweet away from solving this whole
- 11:16Speaker 7: Trump problem. So, like, if Nancy Pelosi's first tweet wasn't great,
- 11:21Speaker 7: let's tell her that. But Nancy Pelosi's also pretty fucking great.
- 11:23Speaker 7: She's doing a lot of other great things.
- 11:25Speaker 2: And let's move on.
- 11:28Speaker 6: It is the deeply frustrating, unwritten rules of politics, though,
- 11:33Speaker 6: that we were observing in real time, which is that
- 11:35Speaker 6: So Ilhan Omar said a comment about AIPAC that people
- 11:40Speaker 6: viewed as suggesting that the only reason you support the
- 11:43Speaker 6: state of Israel is for political donations that she apologized for.
- 11:47Speaker 6: She said another comment that people thought might have been
- 11:49Speaker 6: suggesting that members of Congress should support Israel at dual loyalty.
- 11:52Speaker 6: And thus, so when Dan Crenshaw retweeted the Imam of Peace,
- 11:57Speaker 6: an Australian... Imam that I'm sure he follows regularly and
- 12:00Speaker 6: is constantly retweeting it wasn't afforded by some right-wing organization
- 12:04Speaker 6: saying hey retweet this to kick up a shitstorm People
- 12:07Speaker 6: were like, oh man, she stepped in it again Well,
- 12:09Speaker 6: we won't necessarily full-throatedly defend her this time and that
- 12:12Speaker 6: is bullshit because we need to evaluate each of these
- 12:14Speaker 6: things on the merit and is so clear that she
- 12:17Speaker 6: was no way minimizing the 9-11 attacks and it was
- 12:21Speaker 6: just political gamesmanship and in the the press corps and
- 12:25Speaker 6: the sort of body politics scores these things and in
- 12:28Speaker 6: this weird sort of meta way, and it is garbage,
- 12:31Speaker 6: and I bet a lot of Democrats reject it.
- 12:33Speaker 7: It's also, let's be very clear, this was a fucking plan.
- 12:36Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
- 12:36Speaker 7: Someone found this, they're like, who is the best person
- 12:40Speaker 7: to raise this point? Who would be an unassailable person
- 12:42Speaker 7: to do it? And they picked Dan Crenshaw because he's
- 12:45Speaker 7: a Navy SEAL who served, I think, five tours overseas,
- 12:49Speaker 7: and he has become this, like, Republican we're supposed to
- 12:54Speaker 7: respect because he was made fun of on SNL once.
- 12:56Speaker 3: Because Pete Davidson attacked him.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Yes.
- 12:58Speaker 1: I do think, like, I wonder how we deal with
- 13:01Speaker 1: situations like this overall, because you could imagine a controversy
- 13:07Speaker 1: like this taking up every weekend, every week, from now
- 13:11Speaker 1: until 2020.
- 13:11Speaker 7: That's the fucking plan.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Well, that's their plan. And, look, on one hand, you
- 13:17Speaker 1: can't say, just ignore this, Democrats. When Trump does something
- 13:21Speaker 1: like that, when he attacks Democrats, Ilhan Omar you know
- 13:24Speaker 1: takes her words out of context tries to incite bigotry
- 13:28Speaker 1: potentially violence like we should just you can't just say
- 13:30Speaker 1: we're going to ignore it but at the other hand
- 13:32Speaker 1: on the other hand we also can't just let ourselves
- 13:35Speaker 1: be consumed by it you know so I wonder what
- 13:37Speaker 1: sort of the strategy is here to make sure that
- 13:40Speaker 1: we hit back and call out their bullshit when they
- 13:43Speaker 1: do it but then sort of move on to the
- 13:45Speaker 1: next thing and not let them own the whole narrative on.
- 13:47Speaker 2: This yeah I think I think it is just what
- 13:50Speaker 2: Dan is saying I think it is pointing out that
- 13:52Speaker 2: this is the strategy and this is the plan and
- 13:54Speaker 2: this is going to happen again and again and again.
- 13:56Speaker 2: I think to Tommy's point, I think one of the
- 13:58Speaker 2: reasons they would choose to do this is because there
- 14:01Speaker 2: was blood in the water from last time. And they
- 14:05Speaker 2: saw how with just a little bit of bad faith,
- 14:07Speaker 2: they could get Democrats to say things against Democrats on
- 14:12Speaker 2: the AIPAC.
- 14:12Speaker 4: Stage, right?
- 14:13Speaker 2: That has value to them. We're stuck, right? We're talking
- 14:16Speaker 2: about it right now. It was the first story, right?
- 14:17Speaker 2: We're talking about it. We're not talking about the things
- 14:20Speaker 2: we want to be talking about. Because this does command attention,
- 14:24Speaker 2: it matters when a president uses incredibly anti-Muslim sentiment and
- 14:31Speaker 2: uses it to try to delegitimize a Democrat because they
- 14:35Speaker 2: don't like the color of her skin and they think
- 14:37Speaker 2: it's politically useful to them, even if it stirs up
- 14:40Speaker 2: the kind of animus that will cause some person to
- 14:43Speaker 2: take matters into their own hands, because that's what's happening
- 14:46Speaker 2: again and again and again. So, you know, it's the
- 14:49Speaker 2: central problem to Trump, right? What do you do when
- 14:52Speaker 2: the person in the office is so fundamentally unfit? It
- 14:55Speaker 2: should take all of our attention all the time. When
- 14:57Speaker 2: defeating him depends on talking about anything else.
- 15:00Speaker 3: It's hard.
- 15:00Speaker 1: It's also, by the way, we've been talking about these
- 15:02Speaker 1: comments the whole time, but, like, let's remember, Donald Trump
- 15:05Speaker 1: ran for president on the promise that he would ban
- 15:08Speaker 1: all Muslims from the country, from coming to the country.
- 15:10Speaker 2: He called it the ban. His press people were like,
- 15:13Speaker 2: it's not a ban. He's like, it's a ban.
- 15:15Speaker 1: LAUGHTER So it's like trying to figure out like what
- 15:19Speaker 1: they meant by this, what they were trying to do.
- 15:20Speaker 1: Like we know what he was trying to do. He
- 15:22Speaker 1: ran for president saying, I want to ban all Muslims
- 15:23Speaker 1: from coming to the country. And then he instituted a
- 15:25Speaker 1: travel ban that affected all Muslim majority countries.
- 15:28Speaker 6: She's talking about how Muslims are treated like second class
- 15:30Speaker 6: citizens and the erosion of their civil rights.
- 15:32Speaker 3: And he swoops in to prove her point.
- 15:35Speaker 6: So we just have to call that out time and again,
- 15:37Speaker 6: because it's the right thing to do. And I think
- 15:39Speaker 6: ultimately being strong in the face of that kind of bullshit,
- 15:42Speaker 6: people will see through it and they will understand it.
- 15:44Speaker 1: Um, I want to move on to a story that's
- 15:46Speaker 1: been a little more under the radar, but every bit
- 15:47Speaker 1: as alarming. In three different states, Republicans have recently passed
- 15:52Speaker 1: fetal heartbeat laws that ban abortions as early as six
- 15:54Speaker 1: weeks into a woman's pregnancy, sometimes before many women even
- 15:58Speaker 1: know they're pregnant. In the past, courts have ruled that
- 16:01Speaker 1: similar laws are unconstitutional, but with Brett Kavanaugh on the
- 16:04Speaker 1: Supreme Court, anti-abortion activists are making a renewed push to
- 16:08Speaker 1: overturn Roe v.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Wade.
- 16:10Speaker 1: Alyssa, how alarming is this? What do we know so
- 16:13Speaker 1: far about Brett Kavanaugh's views on abortion since he's become
- 16:16Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice?
- 16:17Speaker 5: So, this is sort of the result of everybody paying
- 16:21Speaker 5: attention to this fake war he's waging against Ilhan Omar, right?
- 16:25Speaker 5: We're all talking about that. Very few people know that in,
- 16:29Speaker 5: and I wrote this down because I didn't want to
- 16:31Speaker 5: get it wrong, North Dakota, Iowa, Kentucky, Mississippi, Ohio, and
- 16:35Speaker 5: soon to be signed in Georgia, is the heartbeat ban.
- 16:38Speaker 5: The reason, as Fab said, that This makes abortion illegal
- 16:43Speaker 5: after a detectable heartbeat, which is approximately six weeks, which
- 16:46Speaker 5: is before most women know they're pregnant. The reason that,
- 16:51Speaker 5: you know, some sort of like liberal folks aren't that
- 16:54Speaker 5: worked up about it is because they're like, well, it's
- 16:56Speaker 5: still illegal. It's illegal under Roe v.
- 16:59Speaker 2: Wade.
- 16:59Speaker 5: These laws are illegal. But this is the whole point.
- 17:01Speaker 5: They want these cases to be brought up to the
- 17:03Speaker 5: Supreme Court where we have Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh.
- 17:08Speaker 5: Brett Kavanaugh, who Susan Collins said... He says Roe v.
- 17:12Speaker 5: Wade is settled law.
- 17:15Speaker 2: Okay. Allegedly.
- 17:17Speaker 5: And thanks, Joe Manchin, for endorsing Susan Collins. Like, thank you, goodbye.
- 17:22Speaker 2: But... I'm sorry. Sorry.
- 17:26Speaker 3: I can't stand it. Stop reminding us of the news.
- 17:30Speaker 4: Okay, I'm glad we're mad. Don't yell at me.
- 17:32Speaker 2: It's not my fault.
- 17:33Speaker 5: But the sort of, where this is getting to an
- 17:37Speaker 5: even crazier place is that in Texas, there is actually
- 17:40Speaker 5: a law that's been passed that says a woman who
- 17:42Speaker 5: has an abortion can be eligible for the death penalty.
- 17:47Speaker 2: Like, this is where we're at. And none of you
- 17:48Speaker 2: knew that, did you?
- 17:49Speaker 3: No one knew that.
- 17:50Speaker 5: And that's really happening. And you know what I just
- 17:52Speaker 5: have to end with is like, What about the fucking dudes?
- 17:56Speaker 5: How come like the woman didn't get pregnant on her own,
- 17:58Speaker 5: but she, she is going to go on death row.
- 18:05Speaker 5: And like all these conservative dudes are like, yeah, it's
- 18:09Speaker 5: her fault. So she's going to go on death row,
- 18:12Speaker 5: but he's fine. And so, but this is what's happening
- 18:15Speaker 5: when we all pay attention to the stupid stories that
- 18:19Speaker 5: Trump kicks up every day is that the Republicans are
- 18:21Speaker 5: super organized and this is happening in every state, which
- 18:24Speaker 5: is why like when everyone starts talking about 2020, which
- 18:27Speaker 5: is great and it's sexy and it's exciting, it is
- 18:30Speaker 5: nothing compared to the local elections that are happening all
- 18:32Speaker 5: the time where this stuff happens.
- 18:34Speaker 1: So. Obviously, we can't do anything about the Supreme Court
- 18:41Speaker 1: right now. We're waiting for a presidential election in 2020.
- 18:44Speaker 1: What can be done on a state level to protect
- 18:47Speaker 1: access to abortion?
- 18:48Speaker 5: So one, I think that everybody should sign up at
- 18:51Speaker 5: their local NARAL or NARAL National, N-A-R-A-L, and follow because
- 18:56Speaker 5: Elise Hogue, who is the executive director and the organization,
- 19:01Speaker 5: are really doing everything they can to make sure that
- 19:03Speaker 5: everybody knows what is at stake in their region, in
- 19:07Speaker 5: their state, in their city, in their town. And, um,
- 19:09Speaker 5: they have been super, uh, active, especially through Kavanaugh. And, um,
- 19:14Speaker 5: because it's, I mean, the thing is people just have
- 19:16Speaker 5: to realize what's happening in their community.
- 19:18Speaker 3: That's the most important thing.
- 19:19Speaker 1: And a number of states that have democratic majorities, right,
- 19:22Speaker 1: can pass laws protecting.
- 19:25Speaker 5: They can, they can, they can, and some of them have,
- 19:28Speaker 5: and some of them since, uh, since Kavanaugh, uh, since
- 19:31Speaker 5: the election and since Kavanaugh was put on the court,
- 19:34Speaker 5: several states have passed, um, protections for abortion in case
- 19:38Speaker 5: Roe was overturned.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Okay. Well, that's good news.
- 19:41Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Okay. We will be right back with more news after this.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Now it's time for OK Stop. We'll roll a clip.
- 20:02Speaker 2: The panel can say OK Stop at any point to comment.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Because it's Palm Sunday, I thought we'd enjoy a clip
- 20:07Speaker 2: from the Fox News journalist who most often causes me
- 20:10Speaker 2: to smack my face with my palm. I'm speaking, of course,
- 20:17Speaker 2: of everyone's favorite Fox News host who ties his hood
- 20:20Speaker 2: in a bow tie, Tucker Carlson. Last week, he was
- 20:25Speaker 2: pretty mad Democrats were making it easier to vote. Let's
- 20:29Speaker 2: take a look.
- 20:31Speaker 8: Lowering the voting age to 16.
- 20:32Speaker 3: You for that?
- 20:33Speaker 9: Again, I think what we're trying to do with HR1
- 20:36Speaker 9: is safeguard against voter suppression.
- 20:38Speaker 2: You think it's a joke. Okay, stop.
- 20:41Speaker 3: That's a former Clinton advisor? Who is that?
- 20:43Speaker 2: I don't know who that is.
- 20:44Speaker 3: Never seen him in my life.
- 20:44Speaker 2: It's not. I will say, Tucker Carlson does not. Know
- 20:49Speaker 2: how to laugh?
- 20:49Speaker 8: No.
- 20:51Speaker 2: It is hysterical. Yeah, he laughed like he just pushed
- 20:55Speaker 2: somebody into a pool who was wearing a tuxedo.
- 20:57Speaker 9: I think it's a joke to say that children should vote. Look,
- 21:04Speaker 9: in a lot of states in the country, people are
- 21:06Speaker 9: taking measures, closing polling places, reducing the number of days
- 21:10Speaker 9: for early voting.
- 21:11Speaker 3: It's not true.
- 21:12Speaker 8: It's an attempt to whip up racial hysteria, and actually,
- 21:16Speaker 8: African-American voters in the last couple of elections, in a
- 21:18Speaker 8: lot of places, have a much higher turnout than white voters.
- 21:20Speaker 2: Okay, stop. I just... Not all of them are not voting.
- 21:24Speaker 1: Well, it's just like, because black turnout is up, then
- 21:27Speaker 1: suppression hasn't happened anywhere?
- 21:29Speaker 7: No, exactly right.
- 21:30Speaker 6: In a lot of places, black turnout is up. Well,
- 21:33Speaker 6: the places where the voter suppression is occurring, it is down,
- 21:35Speaker 6: you fucking prick.
- 21:36Speaker 3: That is the whole point.
- 21:39Speaker 1: But also, it's just saying, like, There are laws in
- 21:43Speaker 1: place to try to suppress the vote. Sometimes they work,
- 21:46Speaker 1: but sometimes they didn't. Sometimes people overcame those laws.
- 21:51Speaker 2: One of the reasons one law was overturned, one of
- 21:54Speaker 2: the laws he's saying wasn't passed because for racial reasons,
- 21:58Speaker 2: the court overturned it by saying it targeted African Americans
- 22:03Speaker 2: with surgical precision. That is the exact quote from the
- 22:06Speaker 2: court ruling about these laws.
- 22:09Speaker 3: That's all.
- 22:12Speaker 8: I'm sure that there is crummy voting behavior, maybe even
- 22:15Speaker 8: suppression in isolated places.
- 22:17Speaker 3: He made a deliberate choice to ditch the bow tie.
- 22:20Speaker 8: Why?
- 22:23Speaker 6: He looks like he beat up a local prep school
- 22:26Speaker 6: kid and took that tie that he's wearing.
- 22:29Speaker 7: I'm not sure how that fight played itself out.
- 22:35Speaker 1: Very subtle imagery with the black donkey there, too.
- 22:38Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
- 22:41Speaker 8: The opposite of the truth, actually, as you know.
- 22:43Speaker 9: No, because I think they'd be voting in bigger numbers
- 22:45Speaker 9: still if they were.
- 22:46Speaker 8: They have a higher turnout than white voters. So let's
- 22:50Speaker 8: be real for a second.
- 22:51Speaker 3: How is that possible?
- 22:52Speaker 1: All the Democrats were like, you know what? We should
- 22:55Speaker 1: just go on Fox more. Just go on Fox more.
- 22:58Speaker 1: this fucking guy hasn't said two words. It's not a
- 23:03Speaker 1: fair fight when you go on. He's also waving a
- 23:05Speaker 1: teal marker, which is strange. This isn't some environment where
- 23:10Speaker 1: they let you on the show and they're like, let's
- 23:12Speaker 1: have a fair debate.
- 23:13Speaker 7: I don't know why Democrats didn't debate on this network.
- 23:16Speaker 2: And not racist. Finally, a Democratic voice is breaking through
- 23:21Speaker 2: to Tucker's viewers and cracking that delicate latticework of propaganda that's.
- 23:28Speaker 8: That may be a lot of things. It's not suppression.
- 23:30Speaker 8: So let's stop saying that because it scares people.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Well, no.
- 23:33Speaker 9: It's a demonstrable fact. Take Georgia as an example where
- 23:36Speaker 9: you know what happened. There were all these people that
- 23:38Speaker 9: were stripped from their voter rolls who were disproportionately black.
- 23:40Speaker 3: I mean, you call that what you want. It feels
- 23:42Speaker 3: like voter suppression.
- 23:43Speaker 8: Racializing everything only makes people.
- 23:45Speaker 2: Hate each other. Okay, stop.
- 23:48Speaker 7: Racializing everything is on the wall in the bathroom at Fox.
- 23:51Speaker 4: Yes.
- 23:54Speaker 3: It's her mission statement.
- 24:00Speaker 2: They printed on stress balls.
- 24:07Speaker 8: There is bias in the country. Let's expose it. But
- 24:09Speaker 8: saying there's suppression when African-American voters vote in a higher
- 24:13Speaker 8: percentage than white voters, it's just, it's a terror attack.
- 24:15Speaker 9: But if you're stripping people out and it so happens
- 24:17Speaker 9: that they're disproportionately black, you call that what you want.
- 24:20Speaker 3: I'm just looking at a fact.
- 24:21Speaker 9: I'm not putting a label on it.
- 24:23Speaker 3: I'm just looking at.
- 24:24Speaker 7: I'm not sure we sent our best here.
- 24:25Speaker 4: No. I think he's doing okay.
- 24:28Speaker 2: I actually think he's doing okay. I want to be fair.
- 24:30Speaker 2: I think he's doing okay.
- 24:33Speaker 5: Fact.
- 24:33Speaker 3: Okay. It's a fact-based analysis. To those people, it's actually
- 24:36Speaker 3: not funny. No, I know it's not. That's why it's
- 24:38Speaker 3: so funny.
- 24:38Speaker 2: Okay, stop.
- 24:40Speaker 3: He's right. It's not funny.
- 24:41Speaker 4: I thought.
- 24:44Speaker 2: You were going to say something.
- 24:44Speaker 3: No, wait for it. Go for it.
- 24:46Speaker 8: Richard, thank you very much.
- 24:47Speaker 5: Sure.
- 24:48Speaker 8: 900-foot, one-bedroom apartments in San Francisco rent for just $.
- 24:53Speaker 3: 4, 500 a month.
- 24:54Speaker 8: And if you can afford the rent, you'll be able
- 24:55Speaker 8: to see for yourself just how repulsive San Francisco's trash-covered,
- 24:59Speaker 8: syringe-laden streets have become. Investigation into the crumbling state of California.
- 25:04Speaker 4: Straight ahead.
- 25:05Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about 2020.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Oh, wait, wait, wait. John. John, how dare you? And
- 25:10Speaker 2: that's okay. Stop. Back to you.
- 25:20Speaker 1: So 2020, since we're here in the home of the
- 25:23Speaker 1: first in the nation primary.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Easy pander. Easy pander.
- 25:30Speaker 2: Very easy.
- 25:31Speaker 1: Two more Democratic candidates who'd been in an exploratory phase
- 25:34Speaker 1: officially kicked off their presidential campaigns this weekend. South Bend
- 25:38Speaker 1: Mayor Pete Buttigieg and New Jersey Senator Cory Booker.
- 25:41Speaker 4: There you go.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Okay. Wow.
- 25:48Speaker 3: Very interesting.
- 25:49Speaker 2: Tell us how you really feel.
- 25:51Speaker 3: Who was the other one? Cory Booker? Cory Booker. So
- 25:55Speaker 3: I want to start with Mayor Pete.
- 25:59Speaker 2: I don't know what.
- 26:01Speaker 3: Okay, Bernie.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Yeah, he's also a candidate. We're going to be here
- 26:06Speaker 1: a long time if everyone yells at all the candidates.
- 26:08Speaker 2: We can't name them all. Anti-Game of Thrones.
- 26:14Speaker 1: I want to start with Mayor Pete, who's... Meteoric rise
- 26:17Speaker 1: in the polls can be traced directly to the Pod
- 26:19Speaker 1: Save America interview he did with.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Dan last month.
- 26:25Speaker 2: You're welcome, Mayor Pete.
- 26:26Speaker 1: It's the Dan bump. Dan, Pete raised more money than
- 26:30Speaker 1: all but three other Democrats. He's probably received the most
- 26:32Speaker 1: glowing media coverage of any Democrat running. What are his
- 26:36Speaker 1: challenges now? What does he need to do to make
- 26:39Speaker 1: sure this is more than just a moment for him?
- 26:44Speaker 7: He has to take the momentum he has, the money
- 26:46Speaker 7: he has, and turn it into an organization that can
- 26:48Speaker 7: run a real campaign in the four early primary states
- 26:52Speaker 7: to set them up to have a chance to compete
- 26:54Speaker 7: in all the rest of the states that come right
- 26:56Speaker 7: after South Carolina. You can get lots of press coverage
- 26:58Speaker 7: and raise lots of money, but if you do not
- 26:59Speaker 7: take the opportunity you have when you have it and
- 27:03Speaker 7: translate it into, as everyone here in New Hampshire knows,
- 27:05Speaker 7: a real campaign filled with organizers and volunteers that go
- 27:08Speaker 7: door to door and build a true grassroots organization. If
- 27:11Speaker 7: you don't do that, then you'll just have your moment
- 27:13Speaker 7: in the sun and it'll be someone else's turn.
- 27:16Speaker 1: And do you think when a candidate has the momentum
- 27:19Speaker 1: and sort of excitement behind them that Pete currently does,
- 27:22Speaker 1: that obviously even if you're starting very late building an
- 27:25Speaker 1: organization as he is, because he did not obviously expect
- 27:29Speaker 1: to get this far, um, that obviously helps build that organization.
- 27:33Speaker 1: Do you think there's enough talent organizers on the field
- 27:35Speaker 1: right now?
- 27:36Speaker 7: Oh yeah, for sure. I think there are a lot
- 27:37Speaker 7: of people who have been holding their fire. There have
- 27:40Speaker 7: been very few endorsements from Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina,
- 27:44Speaker 7: et cetera, political leaders, elected leaders, because they're looking at
- 27:48Speaker 7: this huge field that is huge, filled with very talented people,
- 27:52Speaker 7: and they're sort of holding their fire for later on.
- 27:56Speaker 7: I think that for Mayor Pete, the challenge is going
- 28:00Speaker 7: to be figuring out what his path is, right? Like
- 28:03Speaker 7: where is he gonna compete, how is he gonna compete,
- 28:05Speaker 7: and how can you maintain this momentum, right? Like generally
- 28:09Speaker 7: you wanna have your momentum late, right? Like we know
- 28:13Speaker 7: from how we worked for President Obama, we came in
- 28:14Speaker 7: the race in early 2007, huge gangbusters, huge first quarter fundraising,
- 28:20Speaker 7: and then it was a fucking slog until the month
- 28:23Speaker 7: before Iowa. We were down 30 points in the polls
- 28:26Speaker 7: to Hillary, and we hit our momentum, right? right in
- 28:30Speaker 7: Iowa at the very last minute there.
- 28:31Speaker 5: That was right about when you guys sent me to
- 28:32Speaker 5: New Hampshire.
- 28:37Speaker 7: It's true.
- 28:38Speaker 2: I just want to also say, Dan, I want to
- 28:41Speaker 2: thank a New Hampshire that decided to make 26-year-old, very
- 28:46Speaker 2: sad gay speechwriter who's very tired hold out hope for
- 28:50Speaker 2: another six months.
- 28:54Speaker 4: Sorry, Dan.
- 28:56Speaker 7: So the question for Mayor Pete is, like, this momentum
- 28:59Speaker 7: will go away, right? Momentum comes and goes, but organization
- 29:02Speaker 7: is what sustains. So will we be able to build
- 29:04Speaker 7: an organization that can get him through what will invariably
- 29:07Speaker 7: be ups and downs of a campaign in slow months
- 29:10Speaker 7: to when it actually matters is when people start voting.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Yeah. Alyssa, what do you make of the Mayor Pete phenomenon?
- 29:15Speaker 2: So a couple things.
- 29:16Speaker 5: You guys know that I have a very different perspective
- 29:19Speaker 5: than some other people. So I thought that, like, I
- 29:21Speaker 5: watched Mayor Pete's entire event today when I was on
- 29:23Speaker 5: my way here. And just kind of building up to it,
- 29:25Speaker 5: I think that the one thing he's done really well
- 29:27Speaker 5: is that I think that his campaign has, like, a
- 29:29Speaker 5: real aesthetic and, like, an ethos. Like, you know what
- 29:32Speaker 5: Mayor Pete stands for. You get a sense. Like, you
- 29:34Speaker 5: go to his website. He has, like, the media toolkit. Like,
- 29:37Speaker 5: just some, like, very sort of granular... things that I
- 29:41Speaker 5: look out for and care about. But I think they've
- 29:43Speaker 5: done a really good job of like slowly building under
- 29:46Speaker 5: the radar to today. And so he had this like,
- 29:49Speaker 5: I thought very good launch. He had, you know, I
- 29:52Speaker 5: would just caution anyone who's like announcing for president, just
- 29:55Speaker 5: like fewer people in your pre-program because it's kind of
- 29:57Speaker 5: a buzzkill.
- 29:58Speaker 2: But but no, you know, I think that he.
- 30:01Speaker 5: Came out with like a really good like I feel
- 30:03Speaker 5: like I know a lot more about who he is
- 30:06Speaker 5: and what his campaign's about than I do some of
- 30:09Speaker 5: the other candidates.
- 30:10Speaker 1: We said when he first announced an exploratory committee and
- 30:15Speaker 1: he came up with that video when most people barely
- 30:17Speaker 1: knew who he was. You instantly were like, oh. generational change,
- 30:21Speaker 1: there's his message, there's his story, it fits with his identity,
- 30:24Speaker 1: it fits with his own personal story.
- 30:26Speaker 2: He seems comfortable, too.
- 30:27Speaker 5: Some people are preaching, you're like, okay, I get, you
- 30:30Speaker 5: think that's what we want to hear. But I feel
- 30:32Speaker 5: like that's really kind of, I think that he's being,
- 30:34Speaker 5: for lack of a better word, pretty authentic, and that
- 30:38Speaker 5: his campaign is really fueled by people who get what
- 30:41Speaker 5: he's about, win or lose. I feel like he's got
- 30:43Speaker 5: all the right people on board to help him.
- 30:46Speaker 3: What did you guys think of the speech today?
- 30:47Speaker 6: I mean, I thought Mayor Pete's speech forged an emotional
- 30:51Speaker 6: connection with the listener. When he talked about his parents
- 30:55Speaker 6: needing health services and the fact that his husband, who
- 30:59Speaker 6: several years ago he would not have been able to marry,
- 31:01Speaker 6: could be there because of laws that were passed, it
- 31:05Speaker 6: made me understand who he is and his values and
- 31:08Speaker 6: why he cares about change on a deep emotional way.
- 31:11Speaker 6: And you contrast that with some of the other speeches
- 31:13Speaker 6: we've seen. For example, Cory Booker's speech was also this weekend.
- 31:16Speaker 6: And he is an incredibly passionate, intense, emotional person, but
- 31:22Speaker 6: that speech was less a story about himself and what
- 31:25Speaker 6: he'd done in Newark and the things he cares about
- 31:28Speaker 6: than a litany of policy areas. Mayor Pete's speech was
- 31:31Speaker 6: actually pretty policy-free in a strange way, but I connected
- 31:37Speaker 6: with that emotional story just because that's how humans work.
- 31:42Speaker 6: We connect with stories. That's how we learn. That's how
- 31:44Speaker 6: we understand things. It's a good lesson for Anyone who
- 31:48Speaker 6: wants to run for any office, you have to make
- 31:50Speaker 6: your audience understand who you are and what you care
- 31:53Speaker 6: about because that makes you believe while you be for them. So,
- 31:56Speaker 6: you know, I get the Pete Boomlin.
- 31:58Speaker 3: I really do.
- 31:59Speaker 5: Like most, I feel like most speeches... I mean, our platitudes, like,
- 32:02Speaker 5: I mean, let's just be honest. That's sort of what
- 32:04Speaker 5: the announcement speech is.
- 32:05Speaker 7: Take that, speech writers.
- 32:06Speaker 2: How dare you? Okay, when it's artfully done.
- 32:10Speaker 7: All right.
- 32:12Speaker 2: Shame on you.
- 32:12Speaker 7: Well-written platitudes.
- 32:13Speaker 2: We invite you to come with us. We love having
- 32:16Speaker 2: you around. We think of you as a dear friend.
- 32:19Speaker 2: We get on the stage. You just might as well
- 32:22Speaker 2: just want to bury my career in the ground. What
- 32:25Speaker 2: about John's?
- 32:26Speaker 3: Hey, platitudes make the world go round.
- 32:29Speaker 2: You guys, at.
- 32:30Speaker 5: The back of my car, I drive with platitudes on
- 32:33Speaker 5: my Ford Escape. I'm just saying that he did a
- 32:36Speaker 5: good job of punctuating the platitudes, as Barack Obama did.
- 32:40Speaker 3: With personal stories.
- 32:41Speaker 6: Hey, Alyssa, what's the name of your book with a
- 32:42Speaker 6: bunch of emotional stories that made me feel and want
- 32:45Speaker 6: to know you better?
- 32:46Speaker 5: Oh, do you mean So Here's the Thing?
- 32:49Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. You're absolutely right about the
- 32:52Speaker 1: story thing, right? Because the people who say, oh, I mean,
- 32:55Speaker 1: so like, He didn't have a ton of policy. There
- 32:58Speaker 1: wasn't like a ton of substance, right? But yet it
- 33:01Speaker 1: was an emotional speech that forged a connection, right? So
- 33:03Speaker 1: all the people who say like, oh, you just got
- 33:05Speaker 1: to have policy and substance. Of course you do. That's
- 33:07Speaker 1: the basis of any campaign. The person who's leading with
- 33:10Speaker 1: the most policy in the campaign right now is Elizabeth Warren, right?
- 33:13Speaker 2: Right.
- 33:14Speaker 3: But I will say this.
- 33:18Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren's announcement speech, which she did in Lawrence, and
- 33:20Speaker 1: she told a story about a strike there. She told
- 33:23Speaker 1: a story about her own life. That was an excellent
- 33:25Speaker 1: announcement speech as well. Why was that an excellent announcement speech?
- 33:28Speaker 1: Not because she rattled off all her policies in that speech.
- 33:31Speaker 3: She did not.
- 33:31Speaker 1: She again told a story about who she was and
- 33:34Speaker 1: her rationale for running. And obviously Pete, at some point soon,
- 33:39Speaker 1: is going to have to have some substance. I think
- 33:42Speaker 1: his speech, the ending of his speech was beautiful and
- 33:45Speaker 1: powerful and very good. I think the parts where he
- 33:47Speaker 1: talks about freedom, security, that's fine. Yeah, that's a rationale,
- 33:52Speaker 1: but whatever, that'll be filled out with substance. But I
- 33:54Speaker 1: think the emotional parts of that speech, the parts that
- 33:56Speaker 1: really connected were the parts about his life and what
- 34:00Speaker 1: he's doing in the race and what's driving him to
- 34:02Speaker 1: run for president and want to serve.
- 34:04Speaker 3: And I think that's really powerful.
- 34:04Speaker 2: I think that's right. I also think, in addition to
- 34:07Speaker 2: what Dan pointed out to you about organizing, I do
- 34:09Speaker 2: think a challenge for all of these candidates who are
- 34:12Speaker 2: all being very ambitious because they know where they're... They
- 34:15Speaker 2: know who they're trying to reach and where their heads
- 34:16Speaker 2: are at right now. Very ambitious in painting, telling a
- 34:19Speaker 2: story about a fundamental shift, right? That's not just away
- 34:22Speaker 2: from Trump, but there's been an embrace of very big
- 34:25Speaker 2: ideas and big policies and accepting the notion that America
- 34:27Speaker 2: needs big changes. That's partly how we ended up in
- 34:30Speaker 2: this mess and kind of facing and reckoning with big problems.
- 34:33Speaker 2: And they're all struggling to put forward platforms that rise
- 34:37Speaker 2: to that level. But I think even that's true for
- 34:39Speaker 2: Cory Booker. That will be true for Mayor Pete, making
- 34:41Speaker 2: sure that when he does put forward policies, it reaches...
- 34:44Speaker 2: the heights of the kind of rhetoric and story he's
- 34:47Speaker 2: telling about America.
- 34:48Speaker 3: That's true. That's necessary.
- 34:49Speaker 7: And we always say in Obama world that campaigning is
- 34:53Speaker 7: about telling a story. But the moment we're in, how
- 34:56Speaker 7: we get out of that moment and why the candidate
- 34:58Speaker 7: is the person uniquely suited to get us out of
- 35:00Speaker 7: that moment.
- 35:01Speaker 3: That's right.
- 35:01Speaker 7: And so you have to have a good story. But
- 35:03Speaker 7: I think what is important to Mayor Pete's rise is
- 35:06Speaker 7: that in this totally fucked up media environment where we're
- 35:08Speaker 7: supposed to talk about Ilhan Omar and everyone's tweets and
- 35:10Speaker 7: a thousand channels and a thousand options, Being able to
- 35:14Speaker 7: tell your story to people, like how do you get
- 35:16Speaker 7: it from your mouth into people's brains is a fundamental
- 35:20Speaker 7: part of a campaign. We have a lot of candidates
- 35:22Speaker 7: with great stories, but how do you make it that
- 35:24Speaker 7: people know who you are and know why you're running?
- 35:27Speaker 7: And Mayor Pete, to his great credit, has found a
- 35:30Speaker 7: way to break through in this environment, a way that
- 35:33Speaker 7: a lot of other candidates haven't. And that is important
- 35:36Speaker 7: to someone just in a primary of 1,000 people. to
- 35:40Speaker 7: rise to the top of that, but it is also,
- 35:42Speaker 7: in a nominee, when we all say in polls, we
- 35:44Speaker 7: want someone who can win, because obviously we don't want
- 35:46Speaker 7: someone who's gonna lose, because that'd be a waste of time.
- 35:50Speaker 7: But part of it is, how do you tell your
- 35:53Speaker 7: story instead of just responding to Trump's story? That's what
- 35:57Speaker 7: we want in a nominee, who is not gonna be
- 35:59Speaker 7: wrapped around the Trump axle the whole time. And I
- 36:02Speaker 7: will say, The fact that the 37-year-old mayor of South Bend, Indiana,
- 36:08Speaker 7: the fourth largest city in that state, is able to
- 36:12Speaker 7: rise to the point where people know who he is
- 36:14Speaker 7: and he gets a loud applause in this room in
- 36:16Speaker 7: New Hampshire, which happens to be an important state, is
- 36:18Speaker 7: a credit to the fact, never changed New Hampshire, is
- 36:24Speaker 7: a credit to his ability to not just have a
- 36:26Speaker 7: good story, but to be able to communicate it.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Dan, what is it? Why do you think.
- 36:33Speaker 2: What is the thing that has allowed Pete Buttigieg to
- 36:37Speaker 2: break through? Because I don't know that you would see
- 36:39Speaker 2: it in a transcript, right? What exactly do you think
- 36:42Speaker 2: has managed to cut through? Because he's very mild-mannered, right? That's,
- 36:45Speaker 2: I think, part of what makes it impressive. But what
- 36:47Speaker 2: do you think it is?
- 36:47Speaker 7: I think it is both a question of message and
- 36:51Speaker 7: a question of message delivery. And so on message, he
- 36:56Speaker 7: very clearly knows why he's running. It is very much
- 36:59Speaker 7: about generational change. which separates him from everyone else in
- 37:02Speaker 7: the field. Because most people who are running, not everyone,
- 37:05Speaker 7: but most people have a very similar reason for why
- 37:07Speaker 7: they're running. They think they'd be a better president than
- 37:08Speaker 7: Donald Trump, which is a good reason to be president.
- 37:11Speaker 5: But we'd be better presidents than Donald Trump.
- 37:14Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 37:15Speaker 7: It's true of 300 million Americans as well. But he
- 37:19Speaker 7: also has been unafraid to go everywhere. He has been
- 37:24Speaker 7: omnipresent in the media. And he understands that in this
- 37:28Speaker 7: disaggregated media age that you have to speak to everyone
- 37:32Speaker 7: all the time. So he does Positive America, which is
- 37:34Speaker 7: obviously a great thing to do, but he's doing Preet
- 37:37Speaker 7: Bihar's podcast, he's on.
- 37:39Speaker 3: CNN, he's on the- He said yes to everything.
- 37:41Speaker 7: He says yes to everything. And what he understands is
- 37:44Speaker 7: that like a most more traditional old school politicians think,
- 37:48Speaker 7: I'm gonna say one thing and then it's gonna be
- 37:50Speaker 7: the media outlets job to take that my message and
- 37:52Speaker 7: communicate to voters. Pete understands that to get your message
- 37:55Speaker 7: out in this environment, you have to work harder and
- 37:58Speaker 7: longer and speak more often than in any other time
- 38:00Speaker 7: in American history.
- 38:01Speaker 2: And he is doing that.
- 38:02Speaker 7: Now, the question for him will be, he's now done
- 38:04Speaker 7: all these interviews. What comes next? So he's going to
- 38:06Speaker 7: have to find ways that is more than just telling
- 38:09Speaker 7: the Pete Buttigieg story to get his message out. He's
- 38:10Speaker 7: going to have to find substance, different contrasts, battles with Trump,
- 38:15Speaker 7: battles with Democrats that allow that message to keep going
- 38:18Speaker 7: for another year now. But he has understood this media
- 38:21Speaker 7: environment better than anyone else running.
- 38:23Speaker 6: And the oppo people are going to start coming his
- 38:25Speaker 6: way and attacking him as much as they've been attacking
- 38:29Speaker 6: some of the other frontrunners.
- 38:29Speaker 7: That is the other thing, is that up until this point,
- 38:32Speaker 7: I think the other candidates have treated Mayor Pete as
- 38:34Speaker 7: their non-threatening friend. Seems like a nice young man. We'd
- 38:37Speaker 7: love to have him in debates.
- 38:39Speaker 2: Do you mean the way you guys treat me?
- 38:41Speaker 4: What's that?
- 38:41Speaker 7: I was just kidding.
- 38:44Speaker 2: I think you're very threatening. You terrify me, Alyssa. No,
- 38:49Speaker 2: I don't love it. You scare me. You look beautiful.
- 38:51Speaker 2: You scare me to my core. You're so thin.
- 38:55Speaker 1: Let's talk about New Jersey's Cory Booker, who was also
- 38:58Speaker 1: a mayor of a city almost three times as large
- 39:00Speaker 1: as South Bend, went on to become a U.S. senator
- 39:03Speaker 1: with some notable accomplishments around criminal justice reform, and now
- 39:07Speaker 1: finds himself trailing candidates like Buttigieg in both polls and fundraising,
- 39:11Speaker 1: and he's in the middle of the pack. What do
- 39:15Speaker 1: you think of his speech, first of all, Tommy, you
- 39:16Speaker 1: started talking about that, but what's his strategy to break
- 39:19Speaker 1: out of the pack here?
- 39:21Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I don't know yet. That's the problem, right?
- 39:25Speaker 6: I mean, I thought the speech wasn't as good as
- 39:28Speaker 6: Cory Booker is, especially on paper, because you compare Mayor
- 39:31Speaker 6: Pete to Cory Booker. Cory Booker is the mayor of
- 39:34Speaker 6: a much bigger city. Now he, with some success. He
- 39:38Speaker 6: has a great story to tell about Newark. He has
- 39:39Speaker 6: a great story to tell about his time as mayor.
- 39:41Speaker 6: He has lived his values. He still lives in Newark
- 39:45Speaker 6: in a low-income neighborhood. He was elected to be a U.S.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Senator.
- 39:49Speaker 6: And he's done some impressive things. And he is someone
- 39:52Speaker 6: who is brilliant. And, you know, I think he is
- 39:58Speaker 6: an undervalued stock. I think he has enormous potential to
- 40:01Speaker 6: break through because I think that a hopeful, optimistic message
- 40:05Speaker 6: about love and uplifting people has the chance to be
- 40:09Speaker 6: what people want to hear in.
- 40:11Speaker 3: An era of Trump. But we just haven't gotten there yet.
- 40:13Speaker 3: What did you think, Lovett?
- 40:14Speaker 2: Like, you know, as you all know, I am for
- 40:17Speaker 2: every candidate during their announcement videos for at least 15
- 40:22Speaker 2: minutes thereafter until the glow fades. I am in in
- 40:27Speaker 2: their speeches. When I'm supposed to be emotional, I tend
- 40:29Speaker 2: to be. I thought what made me excited about Cory
- 40:34Speaker 2: Booker is in his announcement video, he reminded me about
- 40:37Speaker 2: what makes Cory Booker interesting. And he does have a
- 40:39Speaker 2: language about love that sometimes is a bit extra, but
- 40:42Speaker 2: is him and is compelling. And what I was disappointed
- 40:46Speaker 2: What I'm disappointed with when I see Cory Booker speak
- 40:49Speaker 2: is when he gives a speech that other politicians could
- 40:52Speaker 2: give because he's not other politicians. And so I don't
- 40:54Speaker 2: need to hear a litany of Democratic positions that Hillary
- 40:58Speaker 2: Clinton could take and would take because they're good policies.
- 41:01Speaker 2: Or another candidate might have on their roster, too, and
- 41:03Speaker 2: that will certainly be the Democratic platform no matter who's
- 41:05Speaker 2: the nominee. You say an interesting thing about the importance
- 41:08Speaker 2: of love and how radical it be and how central
- 41:10Speaker 2: it is to our politics. You talk about compassion for
- 41:12Speaker 2: even people we disagree with and making it a point
- 41:14Speaker 2: of difference with other candidates and talking about the importance
- 41:17Speaker 2: of compromise. I want to know what that means because
- 41:19Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting and I do think it's important.
- 41:21Speaker 2: What do you mean by bring people together in a
- 41:24Speaker 2: deeper fundamental way in which you recognize your opponents as human?
- 41:29Speaker 2: What does that actually do? And what are we not
- 41:31Speaker 2: doing right? Because certainly you can't be saying that the
- 41:34Speaker 2: way we bring people together is just by winning, right?
- 41:36Speaker 2: We must be doing something wrong too. What is it?
- 41:39Speaker 2: And I think that if he can start telling that
- 41:41Speaker 2: deeper story, which I believe he's thought about.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Because he's staked the campaign on that rationale.
- 41:46Speaker 4: Yes.
- 41:46Speaker 2: And I think that is, to Tommy's point, what makes
- 41:49Speaker 2: Cory Booker special and different. And I think.
- 41:53Speaker 2: That's what I want to hear moving forward.
- 41:54Speaker 7: I think the sports equivalent of Cory Booker's speech is
- 41:58Speaker 7: when you were down 20 points, you don't have to
- 42:01Speaker 7: get all 20 points back in the second quarter. That speech,
- 42:05Speaker 7: which had a lot of really good points.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Don't you need more than 20? What's that? Don't you
- 42:12Speaker 2: need more than 20? You don't need to make them
- 42:15Speaker 2: back right away because they'll be the third quarter and
- 42:16Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. You can get 7.7 points, 6 points
- 42:19Speaker 2: if you needed to. That's why we bring you on.
- 42:21Speaker 3: The math.
- 42:22Speaker 7: And you don't have to solve all your problems right now.
- 42:26Speaker 7: And I felt like he was trying to do a
- 42:27Speaker 7: lot in that speech. And in trying to do too
- 42:30Speaker 7: much in that speech, he lost the parts that are
- 42:32Speaker 7: the best about Cory Booker, which is his story in
- 42:35Speaker 7: Newark and where he wants to take the country.
- 42:37Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.
- 42:37Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he said towards the end of the speech,
- 42:39Speaker 1: I'm the only senator that goes home and lives in
- 42:41Speaker 1: a low-income community. And I was like, start with that.
- 42:45Speaker 1: So one last thing to talk about.
- 42:46Speaker 2: We've got the specific advice sometimes. We've got very tactical
- 42:50Speaker 2: in a way that I like and I'm finding it interesting.
- 42:52Speaker 3: We're trying to be helpful.
- 42:52Speaker 2: No, I'm into it.
- 42:53Speaker 1: Like you said, we're pulling that lever for all of them.
- 42:55Speaker 1: Any one of them that walks in there. One last
- 42:59Speaker 1: thing to talk about since we're here in New Hampshire.
- 43:02Speaker 1: As I said before, the state will hold the first
- 43:04Speaker 1: in the nation primary.
- 43:05Speaker 2: Applause.
- 43:08Speaker 3: But recently.
- 43:10Speaker 2: Be more bashful about it. He's like, you're bragging about
- 43:15Speaker 2: this thing. The rest of us notice. We like voting too.
- 43:22Speaker 3: Finished my sentence.
- 43:23Speaker 1: But recently, us assholes in California decided to move our
- 43:27Speaker 1: primary up to March 3rd. And our early voting will
- 43:32Speaker 1: begin about a week before the New Hampshire primary.
- 43:34Speaker 2: And it'll be 78 and sunny.
- 43:35Speaker 4: Dan. Dan.
- 43:44Speaker 3: How does– I got a real laugh, love it.
- 43:53Speaker 1: How does California moving up, Texas moving up, states like that,
- 43:57Speaker 1: how does that affect New Hampshire and Iowa's and South
- 44:01Speaker 1: Carolina and Nevada's influence on the primary process?
- 44:05Speaker 7: Here's a rule that you can take to the bank.
- 44:07Speaker 4: Okay.
- 44:08Speaker 7: In a world where you can take a lot of
- 44:09Speaker 7: rules to the bank. which is whatever the intention of
- 44:12Speaker 7: any Democratic Party primary reform is, we'll have the opposite effect.
- 44:18Speaker 7: So the goal was to reduce the influence of Iowa
- 44:23Speaker 7: and New Hampshire in particular, and so we'll move these
- 44:26Speaker 7: giant states that are too expensive and too big to
- 44:30Speaker 7: organize in, we'll move them to two days after, or
- 44:33Speaker 7: three days after the South Carolina primary, therefore making it
- 44:37Speaker 7: the four early states massively more important. Because you, in
- 44:42Speaker 7: a party, in a field of 19 people, you're important.
- 44:46Speaker 3: We know it.
- 44:49Speaker 7: In a field of 19 people, there is no candidate.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Boo, we don't like being reminded that we're second. It
- 44:59Speaker 2: makes us feel bad.
- 45:02Speaker 5: I mean, I just want to say I've always come
- 45:04Speaker 5: to New Hampshire, never Iowa, so.
- 45:07Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
- 45:09Speaker 3: What has this devolved into? Yeah, I know.
- 45:10Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
- 45:11Speaker 2: We're like, New Hampshire, woo.
- 45:15Speaker 7: Point being is that no candidate is going to be
- 45:17Speaker 7: able to skip Iowa and New Hampshire to campaign in California.
- 45:22Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 45:22Speaker 7: The nominee will almost certainly be someone who won either
- 45:26Speaker 7: Iowa and New Hampshire. Because you need the momentum of
- 45:30Speaker 7: winning one of those two states, if not both of them,
- 45:32Speaker 7: to get the name ID and the funding you need
- 45:35Speaker 7: to run real campaigns in a state as large as
- 45:37Speaker 7: California and Texas.
- 45:38Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 45:40Speaker 1: Tommy, states like New Hampshire and Iowa, where you lived
- 45:43Speaker 1: for years, Obama's press secretary, why you have all that
- 45:45Speaker 1: Iowa love, do get criticism for their early status because
- 45:48Speaker 1: they're small, because they're not as representative as.
- 45:52Speaker 3: The population as a whole. Why are these.
- 45:56Speaker 1: early contests valuable and worth having um or maybe you
- 46:01Speaker 1: think they're not no i do.
- 46:02Speaker 6: So discuss dan's point is so funny he's also it's
- 46:06Speaker 6: like democrats like let's reduce the role of money in
- 46:08Speaker 6: politics by making the two most populous biggest states in
- 46:13Speaker 6: the country earlier in the process therefore increasing the need
- 46:16Speaker 6: to advertise in them and raise money but i digress
- 46:19Speaker 6: that was not your question um my year in iowa
- 46:22Speaker 6: which is obviously rose-colored glasses i look back on it
- 46:25Speaker 6: but was marked by hundreds and hundreds of hundreds of
- 46:30Speaker 6: town halls with incredibly well-informed, well-educated voters who threw fastballs
- 46:35Speaker 6: at Barack Obama all day every day and made him
- 46:38Speaker 6: a better candidate. The first time I heard about some
- 46:41Speaker 6: of the most onerous, problematic provisions in the Patriot Act
- 46:44Speaker 6: were in a backyard in Iowa, and I was like,
- 46:47Speaker 6: oh fuck, I hope he knows what that farmer is
- 46:50Speaker 6: asking about, and luckily he did because he was a
- 46:53Speaker 6: constitutional law professor.
- 46:54Speaker 3: So I think.
- 46:59Speaker 6: I hope, I hope, I hope, truly, that we never
- 47:04Speaker 6: lose the part of the political process that is mom
- 47:06Speaker 6: and pop and some candidate driving around in a van
- 47:10Speaker 6: doing five stops in cafes and restaurants. Are you going
- 47:13Speaker 6: to announce? Which is why tonight I have to tell you. No,
- 47:20Speaker 6: it's like, so, look, I was 90% white.
- 47:22Speaker 2: That is.
- 47:25Speaker 6: That is not representative of the country. It's not representative
- 47:28Speaker 6: of the Democratic Party. I think there are real representation
- 47:32Speaker 6: problems that the Democratic Party has sought to solve by
- 47:36Speaker 6: moving up Nevada and California. No, by moving up those states.
- 47:41Speaker 6: And South Carolina is a much larger African-American population. But
- 47:45Speaker 6: I do think that the way politics is practiced in
- 47:49Speaker 6: some of the early states, the way that voters in
- 47:51Speaker 6: the press have real access to these candidates to ask
- 47:53Speaker 6: them questions, is incredibly valuable. It makes them better candidates,
- 47:57Speaker 6: better presidents, and it's a good way to vet them.
- 47:59Speaker 6: We don't want campaigns that are run on television all
- 48:01Speaker 6: the time.
- 48:02Speaker 8: No.
- 48:02Speaker 3: It sucks. It's just bad. Just Twitter.
- 48:05Speaker 7: All campaigns on Twitter.
- 48:06Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 48:07Speaker 3: RTs and faves.
- 48:09Speaker 2: All right.
- 48:09Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll have Governor Jay Inslee.
- 48:22Speaker 1: He is the governor of Washington State, and now he's
- 48:24Speaker 1: running for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States,
- 48:29Speaker 1: Jay Inslee.
- 48:38Speaker 3: How are you?
- 48:41Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here and looking forward to getting
- 48:43Speaker 4: everybody to the Game of Thrones as soon as we can.
- 48:45Speaker 3: Yeah. No spoilers. Don't yell anything.
- 48:48Speaker 4: It is all about climate change, though, I have to say.
- 48:51Speaker 3: That's true.
- 48:53Speaker 1: Dan did a longer interview with you as part of
- 48:55Speaker 1: our candidate series earlier today, so that will be out
- 48:58Speaker 1: on Tuesday, but we'll do a little short interview now.
- 49:01Speaker 1: I noticed that you were one of the first two
- 49:04Speaker 1: or three candidates to issue a statement in support of
- 49:09Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar over the weekend. What made you act so fast?
- 49:13Speaker 1: What was your thought process when you saw Donald Trump's tweet?
- 49:18Speaker 3: Outrage, number one.
- 49:20Speaker 4: And two, a consistent pattern of how I've responded to
- 49:24Speaker 4: his incredible hatred and divisiveness. I was the first governor.
- 49:29Speaker 2: Thank you.
- 49:33Speaker 4: I was the first governor to say we should accept
- 49:35Speaker 4: Syrian refugees. This has been inhumane what Trump has done
- 49:39Speaker 4: to refugees. When he announced his Muslim ban, I went
- 49:47Speaker 4: right to the airport to try to reunite families, something
- 49:50Speaker 4: I believe very strongly. And this was an obvious attack
- 49:55Speaker 4: because he cannot stand, he just can't stand the thought
- 49:59Speaker 4: that we could have a woman of color wearing a
- 50:02Speaker 4: hijab in the United States Congress. I can stand that.
- 50:06Speaker 4: We believe that diversity is a strength. And so that
- 50:09Speaker 4: was the right response when he exposed her personally to violence.
- 50:13Speaker 4: And by the way, that was not just an attack
- 50:15Speaker 4: on her. It was an attack on every single Muslim
- 50:18Speaker 4: in America, including people in the service, in the armed
- 50:22Speaker 4: service of the United States. So it was the right
- 50:25Speaker 4: thing to do, and I'm glad others joined me.
- 50:27Speaker 5: Gene?
- 50:27Speaker 1: Do you think when he does stuff like that he
- 50:29Speaker 1: is intentionally inciting violence? Or do you think he's just
- 50:32Speaker 1: not thinking and being his oafish self and tweeting shit
- 50:36Speaker 1: like that?
- 50:37Speaker 4: You know, I'd never want to go into that dark.
- 50:39Speaker 3: Space between his ears. It's probably smart.
- 50:43Speaker 4: Listen, we know for a certainty that he has an
- 50:46Speaker 4: interest in just trying to stir up his base. I
- 50:50Speaker 4: think he has demonstrated a callous indifference to humanity in
- 50:54Speaker 4: so many different ways that I don't think it would
- 50:56Speaker 4: bother him if in fact it did result in violence.
- 50:59Speaker 4: That's a really hard thing to say. It's a very
- 51:01Speaker 4: hard thing to say, but I believe that it is true.
- 51:04Speaker 4: So it is our responsibility now to do everything possible
- 51:08Speaker 4: to restore democracy and justice, and that's why I intend
- 51:13Speaker 4: to make him a blip in history in 2020. That
- 51:16Speaker 4: is my intention.
- 51:24Speaker 1: I saw you on Meet the Press this morning talking
- 51:26Speaker 1: about Trump's so-called threat to send asylum seekers to sanctuary cities.
- 51:33Speaker 3: Obviously, Seattle is one, and you welcomed this.
- 51:36Speaker 1: On the broader question of immigration reform, one of the
- 51:41Speaker 1: candidates running, Julian Castro, has put out a detailed immigration plan,
- 51:44Speaker 1: and he has a proposal to decriminalize unauthorized border crossing
- 51:50Speaker 1: so that they'd be treated as a civil offense and
- 51:52Speaker 1: not a criminal offense. What do you think of that proposal?
- 51:55Speaker 4: You know, I haven't thought a lot about that, but
- 51:56Speaker 4: by the way, I just want to mention Trump has, quote,
- 51:59Speaker 4: threatened us by sending refugees. Go ahead and send them.
- 52:02Speaker 4: That doesn't threaten us at all. We know refugees become
- 52:05Speaker 4: part of our community. I just want to say that. Look,
- 52:11Speaker 4: we need truly comprehensive immigration reform. We have 11 million people,
- 52:16Speaker 4: some of the hardest working people in my state, need
- 52:18Speaker 4: to have a path to citizenship, number one. Number two,
- 52:22Speaker 4: we have to stop Donald Trump from treating dreamers like
- 52:25Speaker 4: poker chips. These are some of the most ambitious people.
- 52:29Speaker 4: And I have been very successful getting them a way
- 52:33Speaker 4: to finance college education. I'm happy about that. We know
- 52:36Speaker 4: we have to increase the capacity we have fairly processed
- 52:41Speaker 4: asylum seekers. We know we have to do that. And
- 52:44Speaker 4: I think that could be the single most important thing
- 52:47Speaker 4: that we can do. You won't have to make the
- 52:49Speaker 4: changes that you just suggested, as long as people have
- 52:52Speaker 4: a fair day in court. Now, the other thing we
- 52:54Speaker 4: need to do is, a lot of these people are refugees,
- 52:57Speaker 4: not just asylum seekers. They are climate refugees. They're the
- 53:01Speaker 4: tip of the iceberg. So here you have Donald Trump,
- 53:04Speaker 4: who calls climate change a hoax, refusing to do anything
- 53:08Speaker 4: about the thing that is driving migration and will drive
- 53:11Speaker 4: millions of people as climate refugees in the future. It
- 53:14Speaker 4: is time to have a president who will make defeating
- 53:17Speaker 4: climate change the number one job in the United States,
- 53:20Speaker 4: and we have that with the results of those migrations.
- 53:29Speaker 1: So obviously, as you just said, and a lot of Democratic,
- 53:31Speaker 1: most of the Democratic candidates have said this, You want
- 53:34Speaker 1: to make sure we have a path to citizenship for
- 53:36Speaker 1: the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants who are here.
- 53:39Speaker 1: You want to make sure that DREAMers can become citizens.
- 53:42Speaker 1: What do you do about immigration enforcement? Would you go
- 53:43Speaker 1: back to the enforcement policies of the Obama years, or
- 53:47Speaker 1: do you think we need something different?
- 53:49Speaker 4: Well, I think that we need to be responsible on
- 53:52Speaker 4: a variety of measures. Number one, we have to be
- 53:55Speaker 4: human in how we treat humans and stop separating children
- 54:00Speaker 4: from their parents, number one. Number two, we have to
- 54:05Speaker 4: follow the law, which today allows asylum for legitimate purposes.
- 54:09Speaker 4: And those folks deserve, and we deserve, to have a
- 54:12Speaker 4: system that allows them in a timely fashion have their
- 54:15Speaker 4: cases adjudicated. That means a lot more hearing judges. By
- 54:19Speaker 4: the way, Trump says he wants to get rid of judges.
- 54:21Speaker 4: We need more judges to rein this guy in. I'm
- 54:23Speaker 4: glad we're 18-0 in our lawsuits against him right now,
- 54:26Speaker 4: by the way. That's a pretty good track record.
- 54:28Speaker 2: So....
- 54:30Speaker 4: We need to have not the wall, which we know
- 54:33Speaker 4: is a vanity project. Can you imagine how many people
- 54:36Speaker 4: we could put to school and how much health care
- 54:38Speaker 4: we could do with all that money going to that wall?
- 54:42Speaker 4: And it's interesting to me because even the Republicans rejected
- 54:45Speaker 4: the wall, right? Even the Republicans rejected the wall. And
- 54:48Speaker 4: I'm hopeful that the courts are going to throw it out.
- 54:51Speaker 4: Maybe that'll be 19-0 or 18-0 right now.
- 54:54Speaker 1: So we were just talking about how Democratic candidates stand
- 54:57Speaker 1: out in a crowded field. You're doing that by focusing
- 55:01Speaker 1: on climate change, you just mentioned, as the reason why
- 55:04Speaker 1: you're running for president. It is now one of the
- 55:07Speaker 1: top issues for Democratic voters, but it's still not being
- 55:11Speaker 1: covered or talked about at a level, I think, that's
- 55:14Speaker 1: commensurate with the challenge.
- 55:15Speaker 3: I'm sure that you would agree.
- 55:17Speaker 1: Why do you think that is, and what are some
- 55:19Speaker 1: of the strategies you've pursued in Washington to keep this
- 55:23Speaker 1: issue at the top of the agenda?
- 55:24Speaker 3: How do you make people care about this?
- 55:26Speaker 4: Well, what makes people care about this is the disasters
- 55:29Speaker 4: they're seeing. I personally try to help make sure people
- 55:33Speaker 4: understand this. I was in Hamburg, Iowa the day before yesterday,
- 55:36Speaker 4: a town of about 1,100. It was founded in 1878
- 55:39Speaker 4: or 58, I can't remember which. Never had a flood.
- 55:44Speaker 4: Now it's been inundated by the flood of the Missouri
- 55:46Speaker 4: River and substantially destroyed. I was in Seminole Springs in California,
- 55:53Speaker 4: in the foothills of Los Angeles, where 100 people with
- 55:55Speaker 4: mobile homes, beautiful little community, devastated. And I went there
- 56:00Speaker 4: to bring attention to this issue. And I met a
- 56:02Speaker 4: woman named Marsha Moss that sticks out in my mind.
- 56:06Speaker 4: She asked me to come see her home or what
- 56:08Speaker 4: was left of it. And I went up and looked
- 56:09Speaker 4: at it. It was just this pile of melted aluminum.
- 56:13Speaker 4: But what she told me was interesting. She said, I
- 56:16Speaker 4: want to show you my entire net worth. I have
- 56:18Speaker 4: lost everything in life. because a lot of these people
- 56:20Speaker 4: are uninsured in their mobile homes. But I have this.
- 56:24Speaker 4: I have this driveway. I built this driveway by hand,
- 56:27Speaker 4: and she did this kind of intricate rock work that
- 56:31Speaker 4: she was very proud of. She said, I'm proud of this.
- 56:33Speaker 4: It's still something I have, number one. And number two,
- 56:36Speaker 4: I have a measure of hope, because you have come
- 56:40Speaker 4: here today as a governor, and you have said that
- 56:43Speaker 4: you're going to make defeating climate change so that these
- 56:45Speaker 4: forest fires don't devastate other cities, and that is hope
- 56:48Speaker 4: we need. And I'm running for President of the United States, fundamentally,
- 56:53Speaker 4: because I want to be able to look at my
- 56:54Speaker 4: grandchildren in the eye, and my last day on Earth,
- 56:57Speaker 4: and said, I did everything I could to save them
- 56:59Speaker 4: from the scourge of climate change. And I'm going to
- 57:03Speaker 4: make this job number one, if I'm given this honor,
- 57:05Speaker 4: because if it's not job number one, it won't get done.
- 57:09Speaker 4: And there is one candidate saying that, and that's me,
- 57:12Speaker 4: and I'm ready to defeat climate change as President of
- 57:14Speaker 4: the United States. So that's what I'm doing.
- 57:24Speaker 1: What, in your opinion, is the most exciting, promising climate
- 57:28Speaker 1: policy that we're not talking enough about?
- 57:32Speaker 4: Well, I think the one I've learned two things. And look,
- 57:35Speaker 4: I've been at this for 20 years. I co-authored a
- 57:37Speaker 4: book on this in 2007. It was about it's called
- 57:40Speaker 4: Apollos Fire, Igniting America's Clean Energy Economy. By the way,
- 57:43Speaker 4: the movie rights are still available for anyone who's interested.
- 57:46Speaker 3: Snap them up.
- 57:48Speaker 4: You know, I founded the U.S. Climate Alliance with Jerry
- 57:50Speaker 4: Brown and Governor Cuomo. We now have 23 states who
- 57:55Speaker 4: are in the Paris Agreement. We wanted to demonstrate to
- 57:58Speaker 4: the world that there is intelligent life in the United States.
- 58:01Speaker 4: And we were able to do that, okay? So I
- 58:06Speaker 4: ran for Congress in 1992 saying that we should limit
- 58:10Speaker 4: carbon dioxide. So I've been at this for a long time.
- 58:13Speaker 4: I've learned two things. Number one, the most important renewable
- 58:17Speaker 4: fuel is perseverance. We just cannot give up in the
- 58:22Speaker 4: face of frustrations. Because this is our last chance. We
- 58:26Speaker 4: have kicked this can down the road for 30 years.
- 58:29Speaker 4: We have one more shot to save the planet. It's
- 58:31Speaker 4: the next presidency. And that's why we have to understand
- 58:35Speaker 4: this is a matter of urgent peril where we only
- 58:38Speaker 4: have one chance. We have to take it. The second
- 58:40Speaker 4: thing I've learned is that there are multiple ways to
- 58:44Speaker 4: skin this cat. And that's good news. So in my state,
- 58:47Speaker 4: we've built a $ 6 billion wind turbine industry because of
- 58:50Speaker 4: a renewable portfolio standard. In my state, we're going to
- 58:53Speaker 4: have 50,000 cars that are all electric here in the
- 58:56Speaker 4: next several months. In my state, we're spinning off businesses
- 58:59Speaker 4: that are clean fuel businesses. In my state, my house
- 59:04Speaker 4: passed my 100% clean electricity bill. We're going to have
- 59:06Speaker 4: 100% clean electricity with no fossil fuels in the decades
- 59:12Speaker 4: to come. And we're closing and we're closing we are
- 59:17Speaker 4: closing our only remaining coal plant and we are getting
- 59:22Speaker 4: ourselves off of coal-based electricity. But there is more to do.
- 59:26Speaker 4: One of the things we have to do is we
- 59:28Speaker 4: have to end kaput, end the gravy train of $ 27
- 59:33Speaker 4: billion of tax breaks going to the fossil fuel industry.
- 59:36Speaker 4: We need to end that right now. We need to
- 59:44Speaker 4: stop allow the pillaging of our public lands and stop
- 59:48Speaker 4: these leases of giveaways of fossil fuel off of our
- 59:51Speaker 4: public lands. Now, we need a new president to make
- 59:54Speaker 4: sure that that happens.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Obviously, so the promise of the Green New Deal is twofold, right?
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: One is we do everything we need to do to
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: tackle climate change. The other is we do so in
- 1:00:05Speaker 1: a way that ensures not only economic opportunity but economic
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: justice for underserved communities. And that's everything from a job
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: guarantee to healthcare to making sure that underserved communities, communities
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: of color don't bear the brunt of the transition. Do
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: you think that second part is absolutely necessary? Or do
- 1:00:25Speaker 1: you think that we can focus on the climate challenge
- 1:00:29Speaker 1: and then it would be nice if we can focus
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: on this too on the economic side or how do
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: you see this?
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: I think there's two fundamental parts of the American character
- 1:00:38Speaker 4: that need to be imbued in this national mission and
- 1:00:40Speaker 4: it is a national mission. Number one, we have to
- 1:00:44Speaker 4: make sure we have not just a transition but we
- 1:00:47Speaker 4: need a just transition. We know we have to transition
- 1:00:51Speaker 4: off of a carbon fuel based economy to one that
- 1:00:53Speaker 4: is based on clean energy and in that period we
- 1:00:56Speaker 4: have to have justice and can have justice to use
- 1:01:00Speaker 4: this system of reducing income inequality, of riding along of
- 1:01:04Speaker 4: the ancient wrongs we had in our society, in taking
- 1:01:08Speaker 4: care of the marginalized communities. It's usually people in poverty
- 1:01:12Speaker 4: and communities of color who are the first victims of
- 1:01:15Speaker 4: climate change. And so we need to target them for
- 1:01:18Speaker 4: relief and protection in our infrastructure in a variety of ways.
- 1:01:22Speaker 4: We've got to help them like I'm doing in my
- 1:01:23Speaker 4: 100% Clean Bill. We're giving protection for low-income people to
- 1:01:28Speaker 4: help them with their utility bills, for instance. We have
- 1:01:31Speaker 4: another bill called the HEAL Act, which will map the
- 1:01:33Speaker 4: state to find out where these communities of poverty are
- 1:01:36Speaker 4: being injured by climate change. But we also have to
- 1:01:39Speaker 4: think about justice in another regard. We cannot forget the people...
- 1:01:44Speaker 4: who have worked their lives in industries that are going
- 1:01:46Speaker 4: to go through transition. And we have to take care
- 1:01:50Speaker 4: of their needs and their aspirations. These are great people.
- 1:01:53Speaker 4: They've worked hard all their life. They've built the American economy.
- 1:01:56Speaker 4: And we can't forget them. So let me give you
- 1:01:58Speaker 4: an example. We're closing our last coal-fired plant. But we
- 1:02:03Speaker 4: just didn't shut it off and tell all those workers
- 1:02:06Speaker 4: to go fish. We created a $ 55 million fund to
- 1:02:10Speaker 4: make sure that those people who might not be able
- 1:02:13Speaker 4: to continue their careers to get into another career and
- 1:02:16Speaker 4: get the training that's necessary. And a plan to help
- 1:02:18Speaker 4: small businesses to grow and a plan to help the
- 1:02:20Speaker 4: local communities in their infrastructure. We should put justice into
- 1:02:24Speaker 4: this transition. I'm committed to that. Now the second thing
- 1:02:27Speaker 4: I think we need is optimism and confidence. And I'm
- 1:02:31Speaker 4: an optimistic person. I believe we can do this. We innovate,
- 1:02:35Speaker 4: we create, we build. Today, clean energy jobs are growing
- 1:02:38Speaker 4: twice as fast as the average in the rest of
- 1:02:41Speaker 4: the economy. The number one fast-growing jobs is in solar installer.
- 1:02:47Speaker 4: The number two is wind turbine technician. Donald Trump is wrong.
- 1:02:51Speaker 4: Wind turbines do not cause cancer. They cause jobs, okay?
- 1:02:54Speaker 4: They cause jobs. That's what they cause. So we need
- 1:02:57Speaker 4: to have... We need to look at this as an
- 1:03:00Speaker 4: enormous economic opportunity. And this is how we win. Look,
- 1:03:03Speaker 4: I was Democratic chair of the Democratic governors this year.
- 1:03:06Speaker 4: We flipped seven seats from red to blue. We won.
- 1:03:11Speaker 4: We won. By the way, that was right in the heartland. Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Kansas.
- 1:03:19Speaker 4: We flipped these seats because we took a message to
- 1:03:22Speaker 4: people of economic hope associated in large part by clean
- 1:03:26Speaker 4: energy jobs. This is how we win. We know how
- 1:03:29Speaker 4: to win, and I'm confident in our ability to do so.
- 1:03:32Speaker 3: One last question.
- 1:03:34Speaker 1: You recently said that Washington state has America's best marijuana.
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: Is that something that you hear? How can you prove that?
- 1:03:46Speaker 4: Well, it was... I.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: Can tell you it was.
- 1:03:53Speaker 4: Reasonably good on two occasions in the 1970s.
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: Perfect. That's all I was looking for.
- 1:04:02Speaker 4: But before we go, I want to say something. My
- 1:04:04Speaker 4: candidacy is not just about climate change. It's about a
- 1:04:07Speaker 4: progressive template for progressive values in the United States. Under
- 1:04:11Speaker 4: my governorship, we've done the best paid family leave in America,
- 1:04:14Speaker 4: the best minimum wage, the first net neutrality bill in
- 1:04:19Speaker 4: the United States to guard our freedom of the internet,
- 1:04:22Speaker 4: the best gender pay equity. We're radicals in Washington. We
- 1:04:25Speaker 4: think women should get paid the same as men. The
- 1:04:28Speaker 4: best reproductive parity act. And you know what? This year
- 1:04:31Speaker 4: I got a 12% increase for educators in my state,
- 1:04:34Speaker 4: and I'm very proud of this.
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: Very good.
- 1:04:35Speaker 4: So we've done some good things.
- 1:04:37Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:04:37Speaker 4: We want to take that to the nation.
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: Excellent.
- 1:04:41Speaker 3: Governor Inslee, thank you so much. You want to stick
- 1:04:43Speaker 3: around for a little game?
- 1:04:43Speaker 4: Yeah, you bet.
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: All right.
- 1:04:44Speaker 2: I'm game. You bet.
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: Let's do it.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: New Hampshire. Live free or die in a car accident
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: because it's the only state where you aren't required to
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: wear a seatbelt. Live free or go back to Massachusetts.
- 1:05:08Speaker 2: Live free and ski on basically ice. Yikes. It melts,
- 1:05:16Speaker 2: it freezes, it melts, it freezes. What do you think
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: is happening? And shore. New Hampshire might seem like the
- 1:05:25Speaker 2: South snuck up into the woods and decided to cosplay
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: as liberals. But you're also hiding a secret. New Hampshire's
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: a fantastic place to vote. The voter turnout in New
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: Hampshire was in the top five for the 2016 election
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: with nearly 70% of eligible voters casting ballots, a big
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: reason New Hampshire traditionally has made it easy for grounded
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: staters to register and cast a ballot. But don't worry.
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: Last year, Republicans passed a lot of change, all that.
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: The New Hampshire-tonians, I believe is the word, will need
- 1:06:05Speaker 2: to pay to get a New Hampshire driver's license and
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: register their car in the state. If a student can't
- 1:06:09Speaker 2: afford that, they can't afford to vote. So let's talk
- 1:06:11Speaker 2: about New Hampshire's proud tradition of voting and the Republicans'
- 1:06:15Speaker 2: plans to screw it up. In a game we're calling
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: Vote Free or Die, Like how the old man of
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: the mountain killed himself when he found out Trump would
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: be president. Would someone out there like to play the game?
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: Hi.
- 1:06:36Speaker 2: Hi, what's your name? Corey. What was it? Corey.
- 1:06:41Speaker 3: Courtney?
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: C-O-R-E-Y.
- 1:06:41Speaker 5: Corey?
- 1:06:42Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
- 1:06:42Speaker 8: Uh.
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: I'm a teacher. You're a teacher. What do you teach?
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: English.
- 1:06:58Speaker 2: English? Uh-huh. And are you from New Hampshire?
- 1:07:01Speaker 3: No. Okay.
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: But every time, like clockwork, the second someone says they're
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: not from here in a game, you turn into a
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: Trump rally.
- 1:07:11Speaker 3: Okay.
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: You guys have your cards, you're ready to play. Governor,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: thank you so much for enduring this entire thing I
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: just did. Question number one. New Hampshire Republicans claim the
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: new residency requirement is designed to prevent voter fraud, but
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: voter fraud is already a crime and already extremely rare.
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: Why might Republicans actually want to keep college students from
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: the polls?
- 1:07:34Speaker 3: Is it A?
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: Have you ever tried to do literally any human activity
- 1:07:37Speaker 1: in a college town? Just a bunch of fully grown
- 1:07:39Speaker 1: adults in hoodies and flannel pajamas with no voice modulation
- 1:07:42Speaker 1: who think they're tired because they're hungover and have never
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: actually been tired their whole goddamn lives.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: Or is it B?
- 1:07:51Speaker 5: Young people prefer Democrats. In 2016, 18 to 29-year-old voters
- 1:07:56Speaker 5: in New Hampshire made up over 20% of the electorate,
- 1:07:59Speaker 5: and they preferred Clinton over Trump by an eight-point margin.
- 1:08:02Speaker 5: Clinton won the state by just 0.3%, roughly 3,000 votes.
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: Or is it C?
- 1:08:09Speaker 4: Republicans were mostly interested in keeping out the jocks from
- 1:08:13Speaker 4: Kappa Sigma after Spanky and Moose pants Governor Sununu.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: Or is it D?
- 1:08:25Speaker 6: One Republican legislator was quoted saying, these very handsome athletes
- 1:08:29Speaker 6: with their perfect toned arms... have no business making me,
- 1:08:32Speaker 6: I mean my wife, uncomfortable.
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: Or is it E?
- 1:08:38Speaker 7: If college kids wanted to vote, they should have thought
- 1:08:39Speaker 7: of that before turning 18 while America was sliding into
- 1:08:42Speaker 7: a kind of post-empire, semi-literate, authoritarian decline.
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: What do you think, Corey? B. It's B, you got it.
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Your own Bill O'Brien said to a tea party gathering
- 1:08:56Speaker 2: in 2011, this is what he said when he was
- 1:08:58Speaker 2: New Hampshire Speaker of the House, the kids are coming
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: out of the schools and basically doing what I did
- 1:09:02Speaker 2: when I was a kid, which is voting liberal. That's
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: what kids do. God bless them. Question two. In 2012,
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: Republicans passed the first voter ID law in New Hampshire.
- 1:09:14Speaker 2: If voters didn't have an approved form of photo ID,
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: they could sign an affidavit or have an election official
- 1:09:18Speaker 2: verify their identity, which doubled wait times at polling places.
- 1:09:20Speaker 2: But the law wasn't suppressy enough, so Republicans had another
- 1:09:23Speaker 2: go in 2015. Just in time for the 2016 election,
- 1:09:26Speaker 2: New Hampshire voters without an approved form of photo ID
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: can only cast a ballot if you let a poll
- 1:09:30Speaker 2: worker do what? Is it A?
- 1:09:34Speaker 1: Tell you why Game of Thrones is totally overrated, which
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: is so annoying it's anti-American.
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: Is it B?
- 1:09:42Speaker 5: Spend one night with their wife. Voting rights organizations were
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: quick to denounce this policy, calling it truly an indecent proposal.
- 1:09:51Speaker 2: So it's like a weird 90s movie thing, or is
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: it C?
- 1:09:56Speaker 4: Take your picture. Voting rights groups call the law an
- 1:09:59Speaker 4: attempt to intimidate voters, and over 100 new New Hampshire
- 1:10:02Speaker 4: election officials criticize this bizarre rule.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: Or is it D?
- 1:10:08Speaker 6: Give you a Biden-style shoulder rub. And then film a
- 1:10:13Speaker 6: three-minute non-apology about it.
- 1:10:17Speaker 2: Okay, could be that. Or is it E?
- 1:10:19Speaker 7: Use your HBO Now login, even though he just said
- 1:10:22Speaker 7: he hates Game of Thrones, because it turns out he
- 1:10:24Speaker 7: actually wants to watch old episodes of Hung.
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: Weird reason. What do you think?
- 1:10:30Speaker 3: I hope it's C.
- 1:10:32Speaker 2: You got it. Last question. In spite of all this,
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: New Hampshire's 70% turnout in 2016 is above the national average, 56%.
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: But why should people from New Hampshire... feel bad anyway?
- 1:10:48Speaker 2: Is it A?
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: Granite State? You're named after countertops.
- 1:10:55Speaker 2: Or is it B?
- 1:10:56Speaker 5: Here's a reason to feel bad. New Hampshire doesn't have
- 1:10:59Speaker 5: a signature food. Visit basically any other state and people
- 1:11:03Speaker 5: will be like, you gotta try the gumbo. Or we
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: put crackers on our spaghetti here.
- 1:11:06Speaker 2: We're fucking insane.
- 1:11:09Speaker 5: But New Hampshire has what?
- 1:11:11Speaker 2: Lobster?
- 1:11:12Speaker 5: Sorry, that belongs to Maine. Clam chowder. Well, you also
- 1:11:15Speaker 5: have Susan Collins, so careful.
- 1:11:24Speaker 4: Clam chowder.
- 1:11:25Speaker 2: You really stuck it to those Mainers out there. Wow.
- 1:11:29Speaker 2: Look at you, huh? Wipe that smile off your goddamn faces.
- 1:11:37Speaker 5: Wait, clam chowder? Nope, that's Massachusetts. So what's left? We
- 1:11:43Speaker 5: saw a Chipotle on the way in. Does that work?
- 1:11:47Speaker 2: No signature food. Oh, you know what? You said 15
- 1:11:50Speaker 2: foods and none of them are famous. Or is it C?
- 1:11:55Speaker 4: You try sharing a 250-mile border with a bunch of
- 1:11:58Speaker 4: Subaru-driving granola munchers. Yeah. Granola munchers over there in the
- 1:12:14Speaker 4: Soviet Republic of Vermont.
- 1:12:17Speaker 3: We need.
- 1:12:21Speaker 4: We need a wall. And Vermont is going to pay
- 1:12:25Speaker 4: for it.
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: Or is it D?
- 1:12:32Speaker 1: Pretty lucky that primary is late, huh, Governor?
- 1:12:37Speaker 6: Plenty of countries do better than 70% turnout, including Hungary, Finland,
- 1:12:41Speaker 6: New Zealand, Israel, Dorne, the Iron Islands, most of Westeros,
- 1:12:48Speaker 6: South Korea, Australia, and Belgium because they have laws that
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: encourage voting instead of trying to make it harder.
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: Or is it E?
- 1:12:57Speaker 7: One reason and one reason only. Massachusetts has the Kennedys.
- 1:13:01Speaker 7: You have this in your news.
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: What are you booing exactly? Think about what you're booing.
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: Think about what you're booing. Face what you're booing. There's
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: a question in there with an obvious answer. Did you
- 1:13:20Speaker 2: figure it out?
- 1:13:20Speaker 3: Travis told me it was D.
- 1:13:24Speaker 2: You got it, Corey. You bought a parachute gift card.
- 1:13:28Speaker 2: And a Butcher Box gift card. Get some sheets, get
- 1:13:31Speaker 2: some meat. Thank you, Corey. Thank you, Governor, for playing
- 1:13:35Speaker 2: our game and for being here. That was so fun.
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: Thank you so much. We try, you know. We try.
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: Thank you, Governor Inslee. Thank you, Congress, for coming.
- 1:13:48Speaker 2: Thank you, guys.
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: Thank you, Alyssa Mastromonaco.
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: Thank you.