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Two Duos, Three Trios,Two Quartets And A Quintet 8 Albums Released Now From Ben Goldberg · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: are you doing, Ben Man? I have been waiting to
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  Speaker 1: talk with you because I just think you're onto something
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  Speaker 1: that's so amazingly creative.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you. Happy to talk with you as well.
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  Speaker 1: What is this journey been like? Because when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to music, we all bump into those that you know,
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  Speaker 1: they think I'm the big star, I'm this, I'm that,
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  Speaker 1: But you've actually come up with a plan, a concept,
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  Speaker 1: and execution. You really go the full gamut here when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to music.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I try to create music every day. Oh and
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  Speaker 3: you know, over the years, like a lot, I have
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  Speaker 3: accumulated a number of recordings that I needed to release,
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  Speaker 3: so I figured just why not release eight of them,
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  Speaker 3: eight albums, all on the same day.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you said the number eight because
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  Speaker 1: in studying you, the number eight seems to be your
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  Speaker 1: angel number in the way that I mean number eight
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  Speaker 1: means abundance, personal power, balance, as well as karma. That's
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  Speaker 1: a big number in your life.
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  Speaker 3: Man, It's a big number in my life because I
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  Speaker 3: was born on eighth eight, Oh my God, and I
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  Speaker 3: was named with eight letters of my first name and
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  Speaker 3: eight letters on my last name. So from an early age,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of figured that eight was my number.
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  Speaker 1: Do you follow that along? Because I mean, I'm one
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  Speaker 1: of those people. I believe in numerology. I believe in
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  Speaker 1: everything that's connected to it, because we're just the passer by.
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  Speaker 1: Everything around us is Hey, they're knocking on our shoulder.
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  Speaker 1: To create, create, create.
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  Speaker 3: That's what that's that's my mission in life is to create.
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  Speaker 3: I'm playing my clarinet every day, and I'm writing music
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  Speaker 3: every day and recording a lot of music and performing
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  Speaker 3: for people every opportunity that I can.
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  Speaker 2: And I agree with you. I feel like I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: We're the conduits of knowledge and understanding and wisdom. And
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  Speaker 3: for me, music is the way of hopefully connecting with
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  Speaker 3: other people and participating in that knowledge and wisdom with them.
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  Speaker 1: What is up with the orchestra in the way that
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  Speaker 1: I mean? Because I create and I work with other
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  Speaker 1: people who are in their high school orchestras. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: they recently just performed with the Charlotte Symphony, and I
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  Speaker 1: bring it up to them about how amazing that success was.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems like every time I run into somebody
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  Speaker 1: band that's part of that orchestra, the clarinet, or even
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  Speaker 1: the tuba, they're so humble. What is it about that
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  Speaker 1: music department that makes people so humble?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 2: I think that.
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  Speaker 3: To be a musician you have to be very honest
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  Speaker 3: with yourself because every day you're facing the question of
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  Speaker 3: like what do I need to learn and how can
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  Speaker 3: I go about trying to learn it for myself? And
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  Speaker 3: so it requires an honest assessment of your own situation
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  Speaker 3: and your own abilities and your own knowledge, and then
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  Speaker 3: and then a realistic approach towards to how to get better,
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  Speaker 3: how to learn, how to increase your skills.
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  Speaker 2: So musicians are very honest people.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, when you step into that pair of shoes.
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  Speaker 1: Are you being the listener when you go back and
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  Speaker 1: check out the music, or are you being the perfectionist,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean it seems like we both carry that
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  Speaker 1: those same genes in the way of I want to
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  Speaker 1: be the listener, but I also have to be the professional.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes me more than twenty years before I
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  Speaker 3: can actually hear the music and something that I've recorded
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  Speaker 3: because of exactly that thing, because at first, all I could,
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  Speaker 3: all that I can hear is what I wish was different.
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  Speaker 1: You do something on this that really is just this
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  Speaker 1: is the kind of stuff that when I was growing
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  Speaker 1: up in the seventies and eighties, I would go to
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  Speaker 1: a music store and I would search for everything that
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  Speaker 1: you're offering. I mean, what you've laid out here for
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  Speaker 1: anybody who just loves fantastic music the duos, the trios,
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  Speaker 1: the two quartets, and a quintet. I mean, once again,
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  Speaker 1: we're back to the number eight. But the thing about
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  Speaker 1: it is, though, is that you don't seem to be
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  Speaker 1: afraid of exploration.
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  Speaker 2: Exploration.
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  Speaker 3: I am. I am sometimes afraid of exploration, but I've
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  Speaker 3: also found that even though exploration induces a certain type
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  Speaker 3: of fear. The only way to succeed in creativity is
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  Speaker 3: to step into that situation.
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  Speaker 2: That's scary. You've got to step into that situation not
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  Speaker 2: knowing exactly how it's going to.
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  Speaker 3: Work out, but trust that you've got the skills to
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  Speaker 3: deal with when you find it.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you love those moments though, being when something is
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  Speaker 1: you put it down, or you record it, or you
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  Speaker 1: just listen to it, and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: you have to make that choice do I stick with
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  Speaker 1: it or do I put it in something else of
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  Speaker 1: the future. Because it seems like music these days is
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  Speaker 1: something that someone did twelve years ago or even fifteen
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and it just happened to come back up today.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know one thing I think we can we
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  Speaker 3: can say is that is that music that's created in
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  Speaker 3: the moment, with sincerity and conviction and skill, it never
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  Speaker 3: sounds old. I mean I spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 3: myself listening to the music of Lewis Armstrong. Yes, and
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  Speaker 3: that's one hundred years old now that those recordings, and
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  Speaker 3: they sound as fresh as ever, and they sound as
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  Speaker 3: meaningful as ever.
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  Speaker 1: And isn't it odd though as a child we would
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  Speaker 1: look at our grandparents saying you're listening to what. But
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  Speaker 1: yet as adults, we're all going, oh, I can't get
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  Speaker 1: enough of Louis Armstrong. I can't get enough of I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's just so bizarre. I'd like to know where that
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  Speaker 1: line is that we crossed, where all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: we begin appreciating music and not just listening to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you.
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  Speaker 3: Well you could you could say that maybe there's something
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  Speaker 3: going on in the mind that's like a mirror. Like
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  Speaker 3: as many years as you've lived since you were born,
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  Speaker 3: now you now have a perspective on how short of
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  Speaker 3: a distance it was to that many years prior to
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  Speaker 3: your birth, so that you can start to appreciate the
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  Speaker 3: world that seems so distant and so impossibly gone and
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  Speaker 3: in the past, you start to appreciate the fact that
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  Speaker 3: that was actually fairly recently, but fairly recent to the
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  Speaker 3: time to the moment that you were born.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of appreciating here's something that we got into
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  Speaker 1: this because I'm a martial artist and my master always said,
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  Speaker 1: if you don't know the past, you don't know the today,
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  Speaker 1: and so and so, in doing research on you, I
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  Speaker 1: want to know who Rosario is and then because that
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  Speaker 1: relationship with Rosario or what you got your inspiration from,
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  Speaker 1: led you to Joe and Steve. And that's the part
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  Speaker 1: of the music story that listeners never never take the
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  Speaker 1: time to go listen to because it took a lot
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  Speaker 1: for Ben to be in this moment. Well, now share
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  Speaker 1: the story with me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you evoked your relationship with your martial
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  Speaker 3: arts master.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that one thing that's.
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  Speaker 3: Clear is that is that real wisdom and real knowledge
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  Speaker 3: is transmitted from person to person. So I kind of
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  Speaker 3: had a sense of that when I was young, and
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  Speaker 3: I searched out the best teachers I could find, and
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  Speaker 3: one of them was because I knew I needed to
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  Speaker 3: learn how to play the clarinet, So I studied with
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  Speaker 3: Rosario Matseo, who was dating from the nineteen twenties. He
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  Speaker 3: was one of the top clarinet teachers in the whole world.
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  Speaker 3: All the top clarinets and all the symphony orchestras came
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  Speaker 3: to study with Rosario because he had developed teaching techniques
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  Speaker 3: to help people solve.
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  Speaker 2: The problems that are inherent in the clarinet.
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  Speaker 3: And so I knew I needed that type of apprenticeship
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  Speaker 3: in order to become the clarinet's that I wanted to be.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Ben Goldberg coming up next,
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  Speaker 1: eight albums released simultaneously on his birthday eight eight. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's got a fascination with the number eight. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: back to that conversation with Ben Goldberg. Do you have
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  Speaker 1: those moments though, that when you go into the studio?
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  Speaker 1: That is because I know that what I do, those
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  Speaker 1: that have inspired me. I'll have pictures of them right
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  Speaker 1: there at the door, and I'll stand at the door
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  Speaker 1: and I'll go, please go in there with me. Do
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  Speaker 1: you have those moments as well? Or am I just
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  Speaker 1: being a freak?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, No, that's a beautiful thing. That's a beautiful thing.
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  Speaker 3: You just mentioned you got to take your features with you, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: you got. Those are your people, Those are your spirits,
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  Speaker 3: those are your angels, Those are the spirits that are
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  Speaker 3: going to help you in your life.
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  Speaker 1: Because listeners don't understand what it's like to even push
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  Speaker 1: play and record when it comes to music, because you
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  Speaker 1: know that's authenticity and you know that whatever happens in
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  Speaker 1: that time that you're recording, oh my god, you either
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  Speaker 1: accept it or you hit, play and record again.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know we're involved in it's like a tightwire.
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  Speaker 3: It's like walking on a tight wire. Because I was
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  Speaker 3: just talking with some colleagues of mine last night and
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  Speaker 3: we were saying that that it's unless there's the possibility
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  Speaker 3: of failure, you're not gonna succeed. You're only going to
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  Speaker 3: succeed to the extent that you that you expose yourself
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  Speaker 3: to the possibility and the reality of failure. Are you
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  Speaker 3: that's how it works?
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  Speaker 1: Are you making your music available for movies? Because I
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  Speaker 1: swear to God, when when I hear your songs, each one,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like, oh my god, I can totally hear
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  Speaker 1: this in a movie starring Johnny Depp. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: here's one right here. Oh this would be a good
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  Speaker 1: one for this actor or this actress. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: really bring some drama and emotion to every frickin piece
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  Speaker 1: of music you have.
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  Speaker 3: Dude, Yeah, well that's I mean, I'd be very happy
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  Speaker 3: if anybody got interested in my music for movies. But
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  Speaker 3: I think you're touching on something that's super important to me,
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  Speaker 3: which is emotion, tenderness, a beautiful melody, and telling a story.
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  Speaker 3: Through a song, even if there's no lyrics in it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think it's a song needs to tell
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  Speaker 3: a story. You know.
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  Speaker 1: You bring up a very interesting point, and damn me
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  Speaker 1: for being this naive to it. And that is is
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  Speaker 1: that I always ask these musicians, Oh, you know, when
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  Speaker 1: you're singing that song and you pour so much of
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  Speaker 1: your soul into it, what is it like for you
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  Speaker 1: to recover? I have never asked a clarinet champion that
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  Speaker 1: what is it like for you to put your soul
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  Speaker 1: inside that music anstrument? Because it has to move through
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  Speaker 1: you first.
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  Speaker 3: Ben, That's right, Yeah, the music, the music moves through you,
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  Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully you know, as a clarinetist and
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  Speaker 3: probably from instrumentalists, there's a high barrier because there's.
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  Speaker 2: All the technical.
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  Speaker 3: Things that need to be dealt with in regards to
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  Speaker 3: interacting with the instrument.
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  Speaker 2: But the hope and the goal is.
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  Speaker 3: To is to move beyond that so that those things
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  Speaker 3: become invisible in the moment of playing, and then you
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  Speaker 3: can and then you can just deliver a beautiful melody
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  Speaker 3: or the song the way you hear it.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're able to do that, that's a beautiful feeling.
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  Speaker 1: For that musician that's sitting in the front seat of
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  Speaker 1: their car or at work right now and they're checking
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  Speaker 1: out a podcast because they want to grow with their music,
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  Speaker 1: but they're so afraid to release it to the real world.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say to them, Because once they release
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  Speaker 1: the song, all they're ever going to think about the analytics,
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  Speaker 1: the analytics, who's listening? How long did they listen? How
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  Speaker 1: do you break that habit in the way of saying,
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  Speaker 1: just get it out there.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think that you could say that in some
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  Speaker 3: ways our world has become a little bit distorted in
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  Speaker 3: the sense that people understand that that's a purpose that
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  Speaker 3: a musician might have for releasing some music is to
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  Speaker 3: gain some attention for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we need to go back to the.
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  Speaker 3: True model, or the earlier model, or the true reality
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  Speaker 3: of music and musicians is that the musician is performing
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  Speaker 3: an act of generosity by giving music to the listener.
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  Speaker 2: That's what's happening essentially.
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  Speaker 3: And so I feel like I feel like maybe there's
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  Speaker 3: maybe a little bit too much emphasis on what am
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  Speaker 3: I going to get from music? If I put up music,
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  Speaker 3: what's going to come back to me? And I feel
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  Speaker 3: like if you can concentrate on what do I want
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  Speaker 3: to give to people. I want to give them my
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  Speaker 3: best I want to do my best job. I want
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  Speaker 3: to express my vision of beauty. It sets things right
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  Speaker 3: for the musician. It's like I've you know, if I've
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  Speaker 3: done that to the best of my ability, then I
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  Speaker 3: don't really have to worry about being judged or what
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  Speaker 3: people might think, or even whether how much money is
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  Speaker 3: generated from the music.
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  Speaker 1: I got to tell you. With the rock band a
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  Speaker 1: collection of music that you've got right there, I sat
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  Speaker 1: there experiencing it, going, my god, I would love to
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  Speaker 1: hear him you explore this even more into a state
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  Speaker 1: of prague, or to go into the avenue of keeping
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  Speaker 1: it right there at because I just I feel something
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  Speaker 1: in your music, and it's like, how do you go
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  Speaker 1: out and really kind of express how important his steps
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  Speaker 1: are in this modern way of bringing real music forward.
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  Speaker 1: You ain't copying anybody, dude. I mean, you've really got
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  Speaker 1: your own thing going on here.
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  Speaker 3: When I was young, there were people that I really
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  Speaker 3: wanted to copy, but I couldn't do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I tried. But like most.
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  Speaker 3: Musicians, like you start off with a model of somebody
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  Speaker 3: that maybe you want to emulate. But what that leads
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  Speaker 3: you to more and more is your own thing. It
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  Speaker 3: leads you to your own sound, your own world of music,
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  Speaker 3: And that's the way that it should be.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it works.
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  Speaker 1: I can still relate with that because I was in
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  Speaker 1: this teenage rock band that I eventually wrote a book
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  Speaker 1: about that took thirty two years to publish. What happened
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  Speaker 1: was is that in looking back now hindsight, we had
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  Speaker 1: one guy there that loved Ted Nugent, another guy that
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  Speaker 1: liked Johnny Cash, and then you got me who like
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  Speaker 1: John Denver. No wonder we didn't get along, But if
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  Speaker 1: I sit back and listen to you, Ben, yes, you
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  Speaker 1: can get along. Just respect each other.
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  Speaker 3: Just respect each other and creates a situation where everybody
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  Speaker 3: has room to be themselves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: God, where can people go to find out more about you?
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  Speaker 1: Because I want them to experience your expression with all
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  Speaker 1: eight of these and I want them to really sit
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  Speaker 1: down and pull it in and really and and be
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  Speaker 1: creative on your own platform, in the way of listening
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  Speaker 1: to the music and let something move through you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you can go to band camp. There's bag
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  Speaker 3: production records on band camp.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's called.
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  Speaker 3: Benny Goldberg Bag Production Records band Camp, and all the
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  Speaker 3: records are availed on band camp. Also, all eight of
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  Speaker 3: these albums are going to be up there on your
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  Speaker 3: favorite streaming platform on August eighth. So if you're a
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  Speaker 3: subscriber to Apple Music or Spotify or Title or c
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  Speaker 3: Buzz or anything like that, you're gonna have the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: to listen to all of these albums starting on August
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  Speaker 3: the eighth.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you and I, well, of course it's August the eighth.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, eight eight, Oh my god. And which
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  Speaker 1: is your birthday?
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  Speaker 3: Dude?
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  Speaker 2: That's right, eight record, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: You and that number eight, So that means honesly, I
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  Speaker 1: got to get the eighth day, eighth month, everything. So
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  Speaker 1: you can come to Charlotte so that we can have
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  Speaker 1: eight an eight course dinner here in the South.
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  Speaker 2: I'll join you. You name the date, maybe next next
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  Speaker 2: year on eight eight.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: We do have something in common, and that is that
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  Speaker 1: you and I have both performed at bar mitzvahs. We
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  Speaker 1: know that once you survived not one bar mitzvah, but several,
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  Speaker 1: that you've got yourself prepared to take on any crowd
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  Speaker 1: anywhere in the world, because I think that's such a
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  Speaker 1: great training ground for anybody who is creative, because it's
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  Speaker 1: about serving everybody who was there.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely, definitely plus as a musician playing music at bar Mitzva's,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I really got my chots together in
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  Speaker 3: the minor mode.
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  Speaker 2: I learned how to play in the minor mode.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, please come back to this show anytime in the future,
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  Speaker 1: and by god, if you get on tour and you
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  Speaker 1: come to the Carolines, we've got to get together for
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  Speaker 1: some face to face time.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I agree, absolutely great talking with you.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, mister Ben, Okay, thanks so much.