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Monday September 21 2026 | Major Networks Meltdown Over Trump Press Ban · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 2: the big headline today about the media's lawsuit and boycott
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  Speaker 2: of the Trump White House. They are livid that Trump
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  Speaker 2: finally had enough of CNN and MSNOW, and he threw
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  Speaker 2: get to the story of the media meltdown. the big
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  Speaker 2: five networks are evidently boycotting the Trump White House as if,
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  Speaker 2: you know, when you do a boycott, you're supposed to
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  Speaker 2: hurt the intended target of the boycott, right? That's the
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  Speaker 2: point of a boycott. Do you think Trump's White House
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  Speaker 2: or President Trump himself cares if CNN or or NBC
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  Speaker 2: or CBS don't cover the comings and goings of the
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  Speaker 2: Trump administration? But before we do that, I want to
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  Speaker 2: give a nod to another podcast. I love this podcast space.
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  Speaker 2: Christmas morning every day we do this together. And I
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  Speaker 2: look forward to it as well. We joke that our
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  Speaker 2: talk shows have become the second favorite thing we do.
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  Speaker 2: The podcast space This weekend, I'm going to be in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, and Adam Carolla has had a podcast for years.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I've never met him before. I've never interviewed him.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be with him in L.A. for the
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  Speaker 2: big Town Hall 2026 in Pasadena. Adam's going to be there,
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  Speaker 2: Steve Hilton, Nick Shirley, the young citizen activist, the journalist.
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  Speaker 2: Larry Elder, Larry O'Connor, Alex Marlow, Jen Horn, and I
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  Speaker 2: meet and greet. All kinds of neat things are going
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  Speaker 2: to go on there. Again, it's in Pasadena at a
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  Speaker 2: brand new venue called the Ambassador Auditorium in Pasadena. For tickets,
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  Speaker 2: go to am870theanswer. com. That's am870theanswer. com. And Adam has had, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, a podcast for many years. As a matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, I saw over the weekend there was a
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  Speaker 2: guy who died who's been a big part of Adam's
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  Speaker 2: podcast over the years. So, so sorry for the loss.
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  Speaker 2: of one of the podcast performers. But Adam is one
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  Speaker 2: of the original podcasters. And I like looking into this
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  Speaker 2: podcast space and checking out some of these other hosts
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  Speaker 2: and other podcasts that have been doing what we do
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  Speaker 2: now every day here on M & M Extra. And
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  Speaker 2: one of those is Patrick Bet-David. Interesting guy. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know much about him. I just know that, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I see clips from his PBD podcast on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 2: And he has a wide range of people on his podcast,
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  Speaker 2: including the founder of Morgan & Morgan, a fellow by
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  Speaker 2: the name of John Morgan. You've seen this guy. The
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  Speaker 2: ads for Morgan & Morgan are all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: It's a hugely successful company. What do you call them?
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  Speaker 2: Not accident. What do you call those, Eric? The law
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  Speaker 2: firms that do personal injury attorneys. Thank you. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's one of the biggest personal injury attorney firms ever.
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  Speaker 2: In the world, certainly in the United States, Morgan & Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: And so you've seen his face, and I guess his
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  Speaker 2: sons and his wife. It's like a family business, but
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  Speaker 2: the guy has to be a gazillionaire because they have
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  Speaker 2: a huge, huge presence all throughout, I think, just about
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  Speaker 2: all 50 states. Anyway, John Morgan, the founder, is evidently
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  Speaker 2: a regular podcast guest with Patrick Bett David. Now, John Morgan,
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  Speaker 2: a little background, I think he's Florida-based. He's not a Republican.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, he has been a big Democrat donor for years.
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  Speaker 2: He is pro-Obama, pro-Hillary. He's just not on the right
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  Speaker 2: at all, which is fine. This is America. Be who
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  Speaker 2: you want to be. Support who you want to support.
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  Speaker 2: But I think the background is important to know that
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  Speaker 2: this guy is not really MAGA, okay, in any way, shape,
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  Speaker 2: or form, okay? But listen to what he said the
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  Speaker 2: other day on Patrick Bet-David's podcast about Trump, the war,
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  Speaker 2: the optics, and why Trump does what he does at
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  Speaker 2: age 80. I thought this was fascinating. And I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to share it with you here on M & M Extra.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what I think. And it's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: different take than everybody else's when you say he's 80
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  Speaker 3: years old.
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  Speaker 1: Look.
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  Speaker 3: He became president talking about no more wars. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he blasted no more wars. But he got here and
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  Speaker 3: he's 80 years old. And he's looking to the future.
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  Speaker 3: The future to him is, like mine, shorter than your
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  Speaker 3: future and your future just by age. But yet he's
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  Speaker 3: made a decision to do this. This whole thing is
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  Speaker 3: driven by nuclear holocaust from Iran.
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  Speaker 1: He could have kicked the can.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: But he didn't. He decided to do this. And when
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  Speaker 3: he did it, he knew what was going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: He knew that gas prices would go up. He knew
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  Speaker 3: affordability was the issue he got elected on. He knew
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  Speaker 3: that was the issue that would drive his poll numbers down.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what?
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  Speaker 3: His poll numbers have been driven down as a result
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  Speaker 3: of this. But here's where I think that Trump's going
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  Speaker 3: to be rewarded. When he said he doesn't care about
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  Speaker 3: the midterms, he does very much. That's why they're trying
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  Speaker 3: to change districts all over the country. When he says
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't care about inflation, he does. But it turns
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  Speaker 3: out that this guy would rather leave us, the world,
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  Speaker 3: not us, the world, in a safer position because nuclear
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  Speaker 3: weapons in the hands of those maniacs is the most
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  Speaker 3: dangerous thing facing us and our children. And Israel's not
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  Speaker 3: happy about it because I don't know if the uranium's
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  Speaker 3: ever going to be taken, the dust or whatever they
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  Speaker 3: call it. But I think the secret message, and if
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  Speaker 3: I was Trump, if I was Susie Wiles and James Blair,
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  Speaker 3: what I'd be talking about is he's putting his own
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  Speaker 3: personal popularity over his present popularity for the rest of us.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that an amazing thing to come from a Democrat donor?
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that fascinating? And if you know anything about me
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  Speaker 2: at all, you know I'm a huge believer in giving
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  Speaker 2: credit where credit is due. And I want to give
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  Speaker 2: John Morgan credit for saying that. I don't know that
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't like Trump. I don't think he does. I
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  Speaker 2: know he's a Democrat. I know he's given probably gazillions
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  Speaker 2: of dollars to Democrat candidates and causes. And what a profound...
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  Speaker 2: this guy has. Stop and think about what he just said.
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  Speaker 2: He wants to make the United States safe. And it's
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  Speaker 2: more important to Donald J. Trump to make the United
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  Speaker 2: States safer than it is to maintain his current personal popularity. Gosh,
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  Speaker 2: that's a powerful thing. To me, that is such an
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  Speaker 2: astounding thing for this guy to say. And I'm not
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  Speaker 2: just pointing it out because he happens to be saying
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  Speaker 2: something I agree with. I'm saying that it's crucial that
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  Speaker 2: we acknowledge what Trump is willing to do. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: at age 80, John Morgan, who's, according to Tracy, he's 70.
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  Speaker 2: I thought he might have been older than that, but
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  Speaker 2: I believe he's 70 years old, phenomenally successful in his
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  Speaker 2: line of work. He's willing to say that at age 80,
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  Speaker 2: where there's not a lot of runway left, And let's
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  Speaker 2: all face it. We're facing facts here. We're all coming
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  Speaker 2: to the end of the runway. I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: be morbid here, but if you're in your 60s, your 70s,
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  Speaker 2: your 80s, God bless you. But most of us aren't
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  Speaker 2: going to have the luck of our friend Joyce in
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  Speaker 2: North Carolina where you're going to be 100 or 101
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  Speaker 2: years old. Trump is saying, I don't care about my
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  Speaker 2: legacy or what my poll numbers are going to look
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  Speaker 2: like in three or five years. I want America to
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  Speaker 2: be safe. I want America to not be subjected to
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  Speaker 2: nuclear holocaust. I want the world to be safer. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want Israel to get blown up by a nuke
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  Speaker 2: that these maniacs in Iran get their hands on. There's
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong with that. There's not a thing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, what a breath of fresh air. Scott Hummer
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  Speaker 2: which I appreciate. Scott wrote, wow, what John Morgan said
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  Speaker 2: is amazing. I never expected to hear that coming out
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  Speaker 2: of a Democrat's mouth. What a refreshing breath. Scott, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: And it does, it's crucial to watch and listen to
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  Speaker 2: Democrats give credit to Trump when credit is due. It's
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  Speaker 2: why I think I like Bill Maher so much. I
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  Speaker 2: appreciate what Bill Maher represents. He's a Democrat, kind of
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  Speaker 2: a blue dog Democrat. I think Maher is the kind
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  Speaker 2: of Democrat that maybe your mom and dad were. My
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  Speaker 2: mom and dad were blue dog Democrats. kind of Irish
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  Speaker 2: Catholic household, loved John Kennedy, appreciated the Democrat policies of
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  Speaker 2: sort of tilting at windmills, you know, thankful for FDR
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  Speaker 2: and the New Deal, grateful for Kennedy's vision with space,
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  Speaker 2: That's not today's Democrat Party anymore. You can't even recognize
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  Speaker 2: today's Democrat Party. You wouldn't recognize it. Our parents, God
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  Speaker 2: rest their souls, they wouldn't recognize today's Democrats because they're crazy.
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  Speaker 2: They are crazy. And they're pretending they're not as crazy
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  Speaker 2: as they used to be. Wait till you hear how
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  Speaker 2: Jessica Tarlow stunned Bill Maher, speaking of Bill Maher over
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  Speaker 2: on HBO. She was a guest over the weekend. And
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  Speaker 2: she said that Democrats today are less crazy than they
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  Speaker 2: ballot in 43 days is crazy. And my question to
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  Speaker 2: you is, and I've been asking this a lot lately,
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  Speaker 2: you ready to vote for crazy? You tired of crazy?
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  Speaker 2: I know I am. I know I'm losing it over
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  Speaker 2: all the craziness of the lunatic left in their agenda.
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  Speaker 2: So check out Jessica Tarloff. She's one of the co-hosts
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  Speaker 2: of The Five. She's the token liberal on that panel.
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  Speaker 2: She's got a new book out. Somebody said I should
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  Speaker 2: a comment about whether or not you think I should
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  Speaker 2: interview Jessica Tarloff. When these people do their books, they
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  Speaker 2: go everywhere. I don't know if she comes on conservative
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  Speaker 2: media or not, but it might be kind of fun. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I used to, back in the day when I was
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  Speaker 2: a Fox News contributor, I debated Alan Combs all the time.
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  Speaker 2: They used to always book Alan and me. Alan passed away,
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  Speaker 2: of course, years ago, but he and I were friends.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't agree on anything, but we could disagree agreeably.
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  Speaker 2: I always loved that about my relationship with Alan. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not sure that I would be in the same boat
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  Speaker 2: with Jessica Tarloff. But here she was with Bill Maher
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  Speaker 2: over the weekend, stunning Bill by suggesting that, well... From
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  Speaker 2: her perspective, the good news is these days Democrats are
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  Speaker 2: less crazy than ever.
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  Speaker 5: But I think all these recent elections have been about
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  Speaker 5: the Democrats are crazy on social issues.
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  Speaker 2: People don't like that.
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  Speaker 5: Trump's crazy, but the economy is better. But he doesn't
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  Speaker 5: have the economy anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I look.
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  Speaker 5: We're less crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Who's less crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Democrats. You haven't noticed?
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  Speaker 2: Have you seen the Democratic? You're being sarcastic.
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  Speaker 6: No.
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 2: You think we're less crazy?
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  Speaker 5: Maybe not inside, but we're at least when we go
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  Speaker 5: out and give a speech talking about the economy and
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  Speaker 5: corruption and not talking about.
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  Speaker 2: They're wearing car hearts and pretending to be less crazy.
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  Speaker 5: That's what's happening. They're communists who think the Islamists are
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  Speaker 5: the good guys.
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding? Less crazy.
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  Speaker 5: The candidates. Some of the candidates. You're not following the
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  Speaker 5: Democratic Socialists of America? Oh, no, I'm following them. I
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  Speaker 5: have to see them every day. I work at Fox News.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They're not less crazy.
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  Speaker 5: And they're not recanting any of that crazy gender stuff.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're doubling down.
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  Speaker 5: Anyway, the point is, this election is not about them.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: People are like, we'll get to them in 28th.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: So, you know, I love what the guy next to
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: her said. I don't even know who that was. Anybody
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: know who that guy was next to her? I think
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: he's talking about a brand of jackets, right? Car hearts.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Isn't that what he said when they're wearing car hearts
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: and they're pretending they're not crazy? And the audience got
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: a big kick out of that. Ultimately, Bill Maher shut
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: her down real quickly. You think you're normal? You think
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: the Islamist radical extremists are the good guys? You're marching
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: around waving Mexican flags in the streets of Austin because
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: an illegal got shot in a conflict with a law
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: enforcement officer from ICE? You think you're not crazy? And
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: did you notice what Jessica said about maybe inside we're crazy?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: In other words, I mean, let's just be real with
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: what she said. What she said was, oh, yeah, we're
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: really crazy. We just pretend we're not. That was so
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: revealing to me when she said, well, maybe inside, maybe
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: deep down we're really nuts, but we at least give
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: speeches that reflect that we're not crazy. So I kind
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: of agree with her. She's right. They are nuts. They
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: are bat crap crazy. And we all know it. The
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Democratic Socialists of America are the centerpiece of crazy town.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Speaking of Bill Maher, he also went on a tear
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: over the complaining and the whining of the $ 5, 000 that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Trump wants to pay out to every single American. Calling
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: it a dividend, calling it whatever you want to call it,
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: an economic stimulus check. If we win in the midterms,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Trump has promised... to figure out a way to deliver
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: a $ 5, 000 cash payout to everybody. Who knows what form
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that's going to come in? Who knows what that will
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: look like? But a lot of people are willing to say, hey, $ 5, 000,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: I'm going to pull the lever for a Republican all
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: day long. And as for Bill Maher, yeah, he's in
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: on the idea.
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: And if you think a 5,000 per person giveaway is crazy,
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: what would be your opinion of 5 million? Because in 2021,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: the San Francisco reparations plan recommended paying every eligible black
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: adult that amount, plus a house for $ 1 and the
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: elimination of all personal debt and a guaranteed income of
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: nearly 100 grand for 250 years. And let me just say,
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: not only do I support this proposal, I'm willing to
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: identify as whatever.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: It takes to get it.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: I mean, imagine what you'd get if you're black and
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: got diddled in foster care. All right.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: That's pretty dark humor right there. But what a fantastic point.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Are you upset about the five million dollars? that you'd
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: get from the San Francisco Reparations Board simply for being black,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: and you're going to whine about every other American getting $ 5, 000?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Give me a break. Hey, Yasmin and Tracy and you guys,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: would you flag that clip? Because I forgot to get
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: that on the show today, and I want to play
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: that on tomorrow's Mike Gallagher show. So let's hold that
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: over for tomorrow. Because that's good stuff right there. That
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: is really, really good stuff. Yeah. Complain some more about
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: San Francisco's plan for reparations. That's just A-OK.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Let me get to the story you're going to be
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: hearing all day, which is the breathless hyperventilating over Trump banning,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: kicking out CNN. MS Now, and Politico. Here is, by
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: the way, Christopher Rufo was the guy that was apparently
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: on the panel there that I was wondering who that was.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So check out something that Western Lensman did over at X.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I follow this site at Western Lensman. Did a mashup,
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a kind of back and forth. So Trump bans– he
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: kicks out– in fact, he did a very funny meme
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that they posted on Truth Social showing CNN, MSNOW, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Politico as giant garbage bags, and somebody was throwing the
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: garbage bags over the fence of the White House, kicking
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: them out, taking out the garbage, in effect, right? So
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: along comes the lawsuit, the inevitable lawsuit this morning. The
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: networks are suing, and they're now– promising to boycott Trump's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: visit to New York by not providing a press pool
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to all the five networks. So they're going to boycott
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: any Trump news coverage. Now, number one, that'll last about
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: five minutes. They can't go without covering Trump. He's their oxygen.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: He's their reason for being. He's the whole point of
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: their existence. Are you kidding me? He's their reason for living.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: They get up in the morning figuring out all the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: ways they can screw President Trump. They're not going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: get to boycott. They're not going to keep a boycott
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: going for Donald Trump. But check out this mashup. So
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the other day, Obama appears at Colgate University at some forum.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: And he decides to weigh in on Trump kicking out
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: CNN and MSNOW and Politico from the White House. Now,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: this is perfect timing. Wait till you see what Western
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Lensman did in comparing what Obama said Friday at Colgate
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: University compared to what he said years ago 2009 to
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: be exact, regarding the Obama administration's efforts to kick Fox
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: News from the White House media pool coverage. So get ready.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: When you hear the first words out of this clip,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: remember something. When Obama said, imagine the outrage if I
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: tried to kick Fox News out. Hey, Obama, you did
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: hit it.
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to think what would have happened if I
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: had said, you know what, Fox News.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Get out of here.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: It's unimaginable.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: I think that what our advisors have simply said is
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: that we are going to take media as it comes.
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: And if media is operating basically as a talk radio format,
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: then that's one thing. And if it's operating as a Appearing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: On ABC News last Sunday, presidential advisor David Axelrod argued
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Fox News is not a real news organization. And the
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: bigger thing is that other news organizations like yours ought
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: not to.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Treat them that way.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: And today, the White House took its first concrete step
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: in that direction. The administration contacted the White House pool,
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the five-network rotation that has for decades shared the cost
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and duties of daily coverage of the presidency, and to
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: which Fox News has belonged since 1997, and made available
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: for round-robin interviews the executive pay czar, Ken Feinberg. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: the administration specified that all members of the pool were
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: welcome except Fox News.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's that? Everybody was welcome except, oh, that was 2009,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you say? Oh, that's the Obama administration, you say? What
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: a bunch of liars. And they're gaslighters. All Obama is
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: doing is gaslighting. You think he forgot that he tried
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: to kick Fox News out of the White House? What
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: about this Brian Stelter? This character from CNN. They fired
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: him and they brought him back. He's the media-covered reporter.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Check out what Brian Stelter said, not in 2009, just
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, actually.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: 2009.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: 2021. This is in March of 2021. All weekend long,
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: Brian Stelter was breathing into a brown paper sack. Oh,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Trump is banning CNN. Oh, my precious employer being banned
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: from CNN. We can't have that. Listen to what he
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: was saying about Fox News and the White House in 2021.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: There are, you know, these questions about Fox's, as Fox
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: radicalizes and as it becomes even more and more of
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: a political tool. Zerwick, you wrote a column recently for
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: The Sun about this, saying Fox should be viewed as
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: a political tool. And that raises a question. Should it
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: be a part of the White House press pool? You know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: should it be afforded the privileges that come with news gathering,
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: even though they do have some news reporters at the
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: White House? You're saying they're primarily a political tool.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: So should that be reassessed, Zerwick?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, as Fox News gets radicalized, because there's nothing
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: radical about CNN at all, is there? They're normal. Oh, yeah,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: there's nothing crazy about CNN. There's also nothing crazy about
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