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Ravens Quarterback Lamar Jackson Files Trademark Complaint vs Dale Earnhardt Jr. Over Number 8 | Charlie Marlow Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  Hello everybody, we are live Charlie Marlowe here on the
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  Kenny Wallace YouTube channel. Pretty interesting story you see
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  there on the headline Ravens quarterback.
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  And by the way, this is not a hoax.
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  This is real. Baltimore Ravens quarterback
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  Lamar Jackson files trademark complaint versus Dale Earnhardt
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  junior over the number 8. This is crazy folks.
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  The NFL NASCAR now this is not, is not filing a lawsuit.
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  This is not technically you're suing someone.
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  It is called trademark opposition.
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  Let's dive into this because I saw this story last night.
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  I'm like, what the heck is going on?
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  People are talking about it all over social media.
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  So here we go. I'm going to read you, by the
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  way, from the the Daily Mail. You guys love the Daily Mail,
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  right? What a quality, quality
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  publication. Here's their headline.
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  Lamar Jackson launches Petty legal attack on NASCAR legend
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  Dale Earnhardt Junior in bitter feud.
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  Is it really? Is it really bitter?
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  We'll see. It does sure seem like it's
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  Petty, not Richard Petty, pun intended.
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  It does seem petty coming from Lamar Jackson, so I'll read
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  further here. OK, so Dale Earnhardt Junior's
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  company. According to this article, DEJ
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  Holdings move to trademark the number 8 for merchandising back
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  in 2024. Last year, remember, of course,
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  he brought the car back for his late model race there.
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  It was a huge success. They sold tons of die cast and
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  all the gear and the Budweiser. It was fun.
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  It was a throwback. Everybody was nostalgic about
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  that. It was really cool.
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  So he moved to trademark the number 8.
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  And here's another thing, Dale Earnhardt Junior has been
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  running the number 8 Budweiser car since 1999, or he started, I
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  should say, in 1999. Do you know how old Lamar
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  Jackson is? Lamar Jackson, I look this up, I
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  think he's 27 years old, 27 years old.
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  So he was born in 1997. So he'll be turning 28.
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  So Lamar Jackson was two years old when Dale Earnhardt Junior
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  started running the number 8 Budweiser car.
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  It's a number, Lamar. It's the number 8, right?
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  Who owns a number? Who owns a letter?
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  Who owns a number? It's the number 8.
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  And I think this is the interesting part of it.
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  So, and I'll get to it in one second.
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  So Jackson, according to this Daily Mail article, has
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  previously filed a trademark Era 8, an Era 8 by Lamar Jackson for
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  products including hats, shoes and bags.
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  And apparently I was reading from another article that he
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  also did a similar trademark opposition to Troy Aikman.
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  Troy Aikman was trying to have a trademark on 8 spelled out
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  EIGHTI just think this is crazy. First of all, I know that I'm
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  speaking right now to a NASCAR audience.
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  So you're all going to say that Dale Earnhardt Junior is more
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  synonymous with the number 8, which I think I think he is big
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  picture, but also the NFL. We know, let's just be honest,
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  the NFL is much bigger than NASCAR.
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  But Dale Earnhardt Junior is the biggest star in NASCAR still,
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  even though he's no longer a NASCAR driver.
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  He's an owner with Junior Motorsports in the Xfinity
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  Series. And obviously, they ran the Cup
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  car with Justin Allgeier for the Daytona 500.
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  But I do find this kind of interesting because who do you
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  think, whether it's United States or globally, who do you
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  think is bigger? And I haven't even looked this
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  up. I wanted to do it live on the
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  show here. This doesn't really matter.
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  But let's look at Instagram, right?
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  Instagram followers, who has more?
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  And I have no clue. I'm doing this live with you,
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  Dale. And her junior is a huge star.
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  But we also know that the NFL is a different ball game.
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  So here we go. Lamar Jackson on Instagram.
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  His handle is New era 8. New under score era 8.
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  He has 3.6 million followers on Instagram.
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  Let's see what Dale Junior has. So 3.6 million for Lamar
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  Jackson. Dale Junior has 1,000,000
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  followers on Instagram. Does that really matter?
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  I'm just talking about cachet, Q rating.
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  Again, we all know Dale Earnhardt Junior is the biggest
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  thing in NASCAR still the Earnhardt name, one of the
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  biggest names, if not the biggest in the history of
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  NASCAR. But the NFL is a different ball
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  game when we're talking about a trademark dispute, right?
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  And who has access or who owns a number.
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  When I say owns, obviously they're both trying to trademark
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  this number. Let's go to X.
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  And I won't do this for every social media site, but I'm just
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  kind of interested because people have more followers on
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  different sites, so on and so forth.
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  If you can hear the rain in the background, I'm here in St.
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  Louis, MO. It's just been raining freaking
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  non-stop for for weeks here. So on X, Dale Earnhardt Junior
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  has 2.5 million followers. Lamar Jackson has 1.2 million
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  followers. So there you go.
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  Dale Junior has him on X double the followers.
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  But on Instagram, Lamar Jackson, what do we say?
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  We said 3.6. I already don't even remember.
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  What did I say Dale Earnhardt Junior had on Instagram.
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  I don't have the best memory. We had Lamar Jackson with 3.6
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  million Instagram followers and Dale Junior with how many?
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  How many? I'm finding it here folks.
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  I'm not a big Instagram person. 1,000,000 So Lamar Jackson has
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  3.6 times the amount of followers on Instagram and is
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  that really important? I just thought it was
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  interesting to see because again, we're going to have two
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  people here who are kind of saying no, this is my number,
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  I'm the bigger name or I should have the rights to this.
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  Dale Junior is the biggest thing in NASCAR.
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  He was using the number first. He was using it back in 1999
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  with the Budweiser car when Lamar Jackson was two years old.
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  I also think it's funny because on on Herman Schrader this past
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  week, there was a fun little debate about are numbers even
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  relevant in NASCAR anymore? And I still think they are.
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  Kenny Schrader didn't, but going back in the day, the iconic
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  numbers, 43 for Petty and three for Earnhardt and 24 for Jeff
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  Gordon and the two for Rusty Wallace.
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  I still think there's a lot of cachet with with the numbers,
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  probably not as much now. I would agree with that, but I
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  do think somebody like Dale Earnhardt junior, especially the
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  red 8, I feel like you can't both of them use this.
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  By the way, with Dale Junior, it's a red 8.
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  Excuse me, it's a white 8 with red all around.
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  It looks totally different than a white 8 with purple all around
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  it or whatever they're going to do with with Lamar Jackson.
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  I I think this is kind of silly. So the article that said this is
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  petty. It does feel petty.
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  I feel like both these guys should be able to have
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  merchandise with the number 8 in their different ways.
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  It's a number. It's a number that's been out
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  there since who? Who started numbers?
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  The Egyptians. I don't even know.
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  Numbers have been around forever, right?
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  Does anybody really have ownership of a number?
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  I understand color schemes around a number.
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  OK, we're kind of getting in the legal weeds here, but I want to
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  hear from you guys as well. I'm not going to go super long
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  on this video. I just found it very, very
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  interesting. And look, it's two iconic big
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  names in Lamar Jackson, in Dale Earnhardt junior, in the NFL, in
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  NASCAR. We got some overlap here.
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  We got some sports overlap, which is always fun.
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  And remember, as I said earlier, if you're just joining us, Lamar
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  Jackson also did a similar thing to Troy Aikman, who also has
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  been around a lot longer than Lamar Jackson with the number 8,
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  of course, from the Dallas Cowboys.
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  So just quick catching you up with what's going on this week
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  for us. But now back to the story of the
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  day. If you're joining us right now,
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  Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson files trademark complaint or
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  opposition. He's not suing Dale Earnhardt
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  Junior. It's a trademark complaint or
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  opposition versus Dale Earnhardt Junior over the iconic #8 which
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  they both use. Dale Earnhardt Junior started
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  driving the 8 car in 1999 when Lamar Jackson was two years old.
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  But of course, now Lamar Jackson, very famous, very
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  popular MVP quarterback, needs to win the playoffs.
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  We know with the Baltimore Ravens, and I'm rooting for him.
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  I got nothing against Lamar Jackson.
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  I want him to win in the playoffs so he can cut everybody
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  up about the fact that he doesn't win in the playoffs.
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  But I do think this dispute is petty.
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  Like the Daily Mail said, I don't think he's going to win.
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  I feel like in the end, they're all going to be able to use the
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  number 8 in their own ways to market products.
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  And I feel like they should. Let's go find out what you guys
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  are saying. I'm not going to read all of
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  these and be nice people. Be nice Narnia 1086.
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  This is what I'm saying. It's just a number.
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  Why is it a big deal? That's what I'm saying.
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  How about this from racer guy? Geez he doesn't understand
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  messing with junior nation lol. But they both have huge huge fan
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  bases. We said Instagram followers.
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  Dale junior 1,000,000 Lamar Jackson 3.6 million X followers
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  Lamar Jackson what? 1.2 Dale Earnhardt junior double
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  s them up with 2.5. I'm just throwing it out there.
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  So you see, right, We all know the NFL is the biggest, the
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  biggest game in town in the United States for sure.
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  I don't want to say the world because soccer is more global,
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  but you know what I'm saying? Let's see, CP 6565 says.
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  In other words, Lamar Jackson wants no one but him to be able
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  to use the number 8 from now on, not on jerseys.
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  This is trademark opposition. So Lamar Jackson is saying in
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  terms of marketing products, hats, merchandise, that's where
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  this feud, as the Daily Mail says, a bitter feud.
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  I can't wait to hear what Dale Junior has to say about this, if
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  he's allowed to talk about it. Because again, this is in the
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  legal realm. I don't know exactly what we
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  call it, trademark complaint opposition, but it is in the
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  legal realm. So maybe he doesn't want to
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  speak publicly, but who knows? I would think next week on the
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  podcast, maybe he does, I don't know.
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  We have a partnership with Dirty MO Media, but I don't talk to
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  Dale Junior every day. If he wants to call me, we can
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  talk. I don't think he wants to call
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  me at all. Not that, hey, it's all good.
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  I'm just saying he's got he's got bigger fish to fry.
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  But we'll see if he talks about it next week on the Dale Junior
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  download. Let's see, here we go.
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  Venom says, excuse me, it's not the DEI Style 8.
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  It's the newer Style 8 that Junior Motorsports has.
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  OK, either way, it's still the iconic 8.
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  There's red, right? It's a throwback to the 1999 car
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  when he started driving for Budweiser.
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  I'm not going to get into the weeds of exactly what the 8
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  looks like, but we all know Dale Earnhardt Junior, known for the
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  8 back in the day. He brought it back for his late
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  model race. It is what it is.
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  Let's see, Venom says Venom. It's still just a number that's
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  from Narnia. They're arguing amongst
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  themselves in the text in the chat.
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  Let's see, let's see. OK, I want to make sure I I read
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  these before I put up anything that's not appropriate.
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  Silverado. I drive a Chevy Silverado by the
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  way. I love that.
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  So why not sue RCR? Because they run the 8 car every
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  weekend. MF sounds like he's just hurting
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  for money and wants to sue someone that had money to get
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  rich like the rest of the sorry MFS in this world.
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  Lamar's a bum. You guys are team junior on this
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  for sure. Let's see, we also have Dale
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  Junior had eight on his car at Concorde Speedway 1993.
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  I was talking about the Budweiser 8.
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  I don't know when Dale Junior first had the 8 on his car at
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  all. You would know better than I,
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  Jarrett. No one has the rights to a
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  number. You can only trademark the
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  stylization of a number. OK, so if they're saying the
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  numbers are too similar, again, it's a it's a white 8 with red
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  for Dale. It's a white 8 with the purple
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  or whatever it is for Lamar. This is silly, folks.
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  Come on, let's see, Catman says, talking about riding coattails.
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  Who's Lamar? Come on, you know who Lamar
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  Jackson, though, is? Very famous, very good Hall of
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  Fame, future Hall of Fame quarterback, MVP multiple times.
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  How many MVPS? 3 something like that for the
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  Baltimore Ravens. I got nothing against Lamar, big
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  picture, but I do think this is petty.
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  Let's see, Media madness says so stupid.
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  Let's see, I'm not going to get into all of this.
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  Brandon Burnett, what a punk. Here we go.
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  Al Milton says NASCAR owns the car numbers used in their
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  series. A car owner has to get the car
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  number from NASCAR. Jesse Harris says so.
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  This is real. WTF.
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  Here we go. I've seen a crosswalk countdown
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  sign showing 8 ones. Watch out, that's from PJH
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  making jokes. Yes, nobody owns the number 8.
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  Come on now. Here we go.
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  Everybody's saying who is Lamar? So stupid.
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  It's a number. Never heard of Jackson until
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  now. You never heard of Lamar
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  Jackson? Come on now.
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  Wow, from slow burn. I'm not going to put all these
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  up there. Let's see.
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  Dude, this is crazy. He's delusional.
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  They've been using #8 before his Mama was in diapers smearing
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  poop on the walls. Got a lot of comments.
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  You guys are fired up. Fired up and I get it.
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  So we're arguing over a font type.
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  Good God Steve B football players don't market numbers for
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  NASCAR. A driver's number is literally
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  their brand. This is apples and oranges.
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  I think some football players, some numbers are more iconic to
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  different players than different sports.
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  I think we can agree on that. Never seen more entitled butt
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  hurt group of individuals. That's from slowburn.
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  Kristen Angier says Dale Junior is 1000 times more important
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  than Lamar will ever be. Well I understand if you think
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  that. And look, I have nothing against
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  either guy obviously, but we're in the NASCAR world.
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  This channel is NASCAR driven. You guys are NASCAR fans.
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  I do think this is petty, but Lamar Jackson is a huge name
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  also. So is Dale Earnhardt Junior, but
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  it is 2 heavyweights. It's two heavyweights going toe
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  to toe here over this trademark. Catman says lol Stevie B says I
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  bet it's Lamar's team and not really him doing this.
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  I don't know. Doesn't he have the final say?
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  Come on now, this is funny. Kathy Wooden.
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  What's next? Is Gretzky going to sue Suarez
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  for the use of the 99? That one would not be close,
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  let's be real. Wayne Gretzky?
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  Daniel Suarez. All due respect.
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  Daniel Suarez not on the same level.
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  I do think it's fair to say Dale Earnhardt Junior and Lamar
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  Jackson are pretty close to the same level.
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  We're talking national cache, Q rating and all that.
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  Understand, we're all NASCAR fans here, but the NFL is bigger
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  than big, and Lamar Jackson's one of the best players in the
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  NFLMVP, what, three times? Whatever it is, I don't even
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  know. Somebody can check on that, so
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  here we go. This isn't affecting other
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  numbers like RCRS. This is a trademark.
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  It's a stylistic opposition, apparently.
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  I'm not an expert on this. I just thought it was
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  interesting to talk about. It's been all over social media.
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  You've probably been seeing this.
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  Let's see. Here we go.
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  So here we go. This is from Hildy.
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  How can we be confused about the use of the number as stated by
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  Lamar? Lamar uses era 8 on his merch.
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  No confusion here. Plus, we waited for years for
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  Junior to get his number back from Teresa.
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  So good luck, Lamar. Yeah, I think this is petty.
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  I don't think it's going to go very far and I think in the end
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  they'll both be able to to trademark or whatever, use their
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  numbers in different ways. That's me.
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  If common sense prevails, which I do think it will, we're
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  Steve B says so Junior will just change the style of the 8 to
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  something else, then make this go away.
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  Sounds like not a big deal. Yeah, it's not a huge deal, but
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  it's kind of interesting. And again, Lamar Jackson did
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  this with Troy Aikman, who was also trying to trademark 8.
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  I read EIGHT. In the end, I don't think this
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  is a big deal. I think they'll all be able to
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  use merch in different ways, and we'll figure this out.
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  But it's fun to talk about right now on a slow Friday as it's
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  So there you go. I'm going to log off.
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  Didn't want to go too long. 18 minutes.
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  Thank you so much for watching and listening.
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  Kenny, you better not cave. I don't think Junior can cave on
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  this. You don't think Junior can cave
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  on this? I'm trying to get rid of my
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