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Assessing The Flyers: The Good And Bad (PST Episode 645) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely strange in a in a in a
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  Speaker 1: knock my teeth out on the stairs, on the concrete stairs,
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  Speaker 1: Thank goodness for that. But fractured my nose, and I've
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  Speaker 1: got two black eyes. I look like a raccoon. That's
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  Speaker 1: basically what's going on here.
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  Speaker 2: Your face looks like it went to a Halloween costume
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  Speaker 2: party dressed as the Eagles offense.
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  Speaker 1: There, he got, Oh my god, that's perfect. What a
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  Speaker 1: great way to start the show there, Philly sports baby, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: have a great show, everybody. If you recall last week,
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  Speaker 1: if you did listen to the show last week when
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  Speaker 1: Eric was on Thanksgiving holiday there and we talked about
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  Speaker 1: the top three things that we were most grateful for
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  Speaker 1: and thankful for in the world of Philly Sports. We're
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  Speaker 1: doing a one eighty this week to start us off.
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  Speaker 1: This week, Len and I are gonna get into the
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  Speaker 1: top three things that we are not thankful and grateful
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  Speaker 1: for in the world of Philly Sports, and then after
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  Speaker 1: that we're gonna dive into some Sixers talk, specifically how
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  Speaker 1: this backcourt is looking in the future of this backcourt
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  Speaker 1: that's really been taking shape with Maxi Edgecombe and even
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  Speaker 1: Jared McCain. And from there we've got a ton of
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  Speaker 1: Flyers talk. Len and I are going to dive into
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  Speaker 1: what the injury of Tyson Forrester really looks like from
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  Speaker 1: a more long term perspective, tough loss as this team is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a playoff bubble type of team, so we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get into that. And now we we're thrown down
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  Speaker 1: on the table. We got our good friend Kelly Hinkle
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  Speaker 1: from Broadstreet Hockey dot Com. She's going to join us
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  Speaker 1: to analyze where the Flyers are at right now as
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  Speaker 1: we're entering December, and this team is pretty fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: So that being said, Lenn, I don't know, do you
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  Speaker 1: want to get into our top three list or should
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  Speaker 1: we banter more about how I look horrendous.
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  Speaker 2: Now, now, let's just get it in the top right,
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  Speaker 2: because yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you gotta get that's right, you get
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  Speaker 1: you've got to work, You've got to work, and you've
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  Speaker 1: got to be up in a few hours.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, folks, Len and I are going to
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  Speaker 1: get into our top three things that we are not
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  Speaker 1: thankful for in the world of Philly sports. Buddy, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna let you go first. What's uh your number three
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  Speaker 1: or do you have any honorable mentions or anything like that?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: What start us off, buddy?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm gonna stay away from the Phillies in
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  Speaker 2: this just because the off season is just starting, so
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  Speaker 2: who knows where it's gonna go. Yeah, maybe they'll do
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  Speaker 2: great things, maybe they'll do horrible things, and we'll revisit
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  Speaker 2: it after all that and I'll be like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not thankful for you know, the Phillies off season, right,
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  Speaker 2: So it's just it's way too early. So as far
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  Speaker 2: as that goes, it's just not fair to do that
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  Speaker 2: right now. So yeah, I guess for for right now,
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  Speaker 2: I mean the uh, I mean the number two, number three,
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  Speaker 2: I guess I guess for number three, Yeah, because I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna because I feel much more strongly about the
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  Speaker 2: other two. Number three is just the union, not like,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, having a really good year and then immediately,
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  Speaker 2: you know, getting dumped in the playoffs and just it
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  Speaker 2: feels like they're a consistently you know, good organization, but
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  Speaker 2: consistently a bridesmaid. And and that kind of is a
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  Speaker 2: thing where it's like, Okay, there's the supporter shields trophies
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  Speaker 2: if they've won. Now now having two of them are awesome,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, it's it's great to you know, fill
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  Speaker 2: your trophy case in any way, shape or form that
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  Speaker 2: you can. But at some point, when are we going
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  Speaker 2: to break through? And and when are we gonna win
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  Speaker 2: an MLS Cup? And then also kind of going hand
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  Speaker 2: in hand with that, when are we going to have
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  Speaker 2: that guy? You know that that that guy? Because look
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  Speaker 2: at the at the MLS Cup final coming up, you've
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  Speaker 2: got Interer Miami versus Vancouver white Caps. On one side,
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  Speaker 2: you've got Lionel Messi, the most famous, you know, soccer
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  Speaker 2: player in the world for the past ten plus years running.
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  Speaker 2: And on Vancouver you've got Thomas Muller, who is a
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  Speaker 2: long time you know, stand out on the German national team.
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  Speaker 2: So you know where is that guy? Yeah, for the Union,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they have that.
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  Speaker 1: You're not thinking ty Bribo, You're you're not thinking Brivo.
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  Speaker 2: He's a good player, he's a nice player, but is
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  Speaker 2: he at that level? Is he at that caliber? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where's a guy? And I know, you know,
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  Speaker 2: soccer is not like basketball where one guy can take
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  Speaker 2: over a game. But you know, where is that guy
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  Speaker 2: that you know you can always kind of hang your
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  Speaker 2: hat on. I don't get me wrong, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: mean to, you know, Besmirch Bribo, I like him, but
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  Speaker 2: I just don't.
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  Speaker 1: Even And yeah, even Andre Blake had an incredible season
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  Speaker 1: for a goal for a goalie, you know, like an
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  Speaker 1: incredible season. Not the last game of the season against NYCFC,
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  Speaker 1: but but.
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  Speaker 2: He only gave up one goal. R I mean you
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  Speaker 2: know that that. I don't put that on Blake at all,
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  Speaker 2: or or the defense. I mean that the one goal
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  Speaker 2: that NYCFC had was a really pretty display of passing
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  Speaker 2: that that led to a nice ball to open it
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  Speaker 2: up for the goal, and.
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  Speaker 1: That was it.
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  Speaker 2: So really the entire fault of that of that match
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  Speaker 2: to me lies with the Union's attack or lack thereof.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you Your number three is interesting because
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  Speaker 1: right before I get to my number three, the I
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  Speaker 1: did have one honorable mention and it's with the Philadelphia Union.
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  Speaker 1: And it goes back to what our good friend of
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  Speaker 1: the podcast from Philadelphia Soccer Now dot com, Josh Schuster,
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking about last week on the show,
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  Speaker 1: had him on for good, you know, twelve fourteen minute segment,
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  Speaker 1: Len and I am not thankful for Ernest Tanner in
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  Speaker 1: the Union front office. Yeah, exactly, I am not thankful
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  Speaker 1: for him right now. Given what this team did this season,
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  Speaker 1: the expectations after Jim Curtin was let go after last year,
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  Speaker 1: nobody knew what the hell was going to happen with
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  Speaker 1: this team and and as a result, there were no
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  Speaker 1: high expectations at all. Did anybody think they were going
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  Speaker 1: to get to where they were in this but like
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  Speaker 1: the semi the semifinals, No, I don't think anybody thought
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  Speaker 1: that in the beginning of the year. Fast forward to
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  Speaker 1: Ernst Tanner, him and the MLS investigation into the allegations
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  Speaker 1: of racist, sexist and homophobic behavior. According to the Guardian,
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  Speaker 1: Pablo mar from The Guardian. You know what a freaking
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  Speaker 1: article he wrote about this situation, like, I'm not thankful
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  Speaker 1: for that, because what was an overall successful season and
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  Speaker 1: even though like you're not thankful inevitably for how the
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  Speaker 1: season ended, leh, but for the overall union season, for
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  Speaker 1: Ernst Tanner to kind of taint it like this, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not thankful for that. That's an honorable mention for me.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely sucks, Yeah, it absolutely does.
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  Speaker 1: So my number three, believe it or not, goes with
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  Speaker 1: our beloved Philadelphia Eagles. Not the team though, not the team.
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  Speaker 1: I may get to the team when in terms of
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  Speaker 1: what I'm not thankful for, but I am not thankful
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  Speaker 1: for those Eagles fans that went to Kevin Petulo's house
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  Speaker 1: threw eggs at his house where he and his family live. First,
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  Speaker 1: we've got for decades snowballs at Sanna being thrown. Now
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna have eggs being thrown at coaches. I am
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  Speaker 1: not thankful for the coming narrative that is just right
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  Speaker 1: around the corner from a national perspective, thanks to these
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  Speaker 1: fucking jackasses. I don't care if it's gonna be an
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  Speaker 1: explicit show now. Seriously, these fucking idiots and these pieces
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  Speaker 1: of garbage for doing that to Kevin Petolo's house whereas
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  Speaker 1: family lives. Are you kidding me? I am not thankful
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  Speaker 1: for these jackass fans you're laughing.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's just like, I mean, you know, I'm I'm
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  Speaker 2: I was young once, you know, and when I when
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  Speaker 2: I read the when I first read about I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I remember being twelve years old too, because that's the
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  Speaker 2: age when you do something like that. As like I
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  Speaker 2: remember reading the article and going, who eggs somebody's house?
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  Speaker 2: I know in this day, Yeah, are you twelve because
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  Speaker 2: that's when I did that shit, right, you know. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just like, really, are fucking idiots and that's what
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  Speaker 2: we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, yep. So that's my number three right there
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  Speaker 1: are are the jerk offs that threw the eggs at
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Petolo's house, and one because they did what they
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  Speaker 1: did to Kevin Petulo's family. But first we had snowballs
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  Speaker 1: being thrown at Santa for decades. Now it's going to
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  Speaker 1: be we have the batteries still, you know, batteries being
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  Speaker 1: thrown at the vet. Now it's going to be eggs
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  Speaker 1: being thrown at coaches houses. I hate these people, I
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  Speaker 1: really do know.
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  Speaker 2: I hate snowballs, eggs, batteries. They just got good arms
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  Speaker 2: in this town.
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  Speaker 1: Ye right, buddy, what's your number two here of things
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  Speaker 1: that you are not thankful for in the world of
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  Speaker 1: Philly sports?
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  Speaker 2: You know, before I get my number two, I do,
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  Speaker 2: in fact have two honorable mentions, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: and their people. One'm is Kevin Patolo, not very thankful
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  Speaker 2: for the job he's been doing. But I figure that's
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  Speaker 2: low hanging fruit and it's going to be said anyway,
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  Speaker 2: so make that an honorable mention. And also, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: very thankful. And I'm having this as honorable mention because
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  Speaker 2: it's not technically Philadelphia sports per se, but it does
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  Speaker 2: lie within our wheelhouse of rooting interest, and that is
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  Speaker 2: not really thankful for Patrick Kraft. Right now, State a
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  Speaker 2: d y boy. Do they look like a third rate program,
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  Speaker 2: don't they? It's hard to it's and I know people
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  Speaker 2: that still think that Penn State is in that tier
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  Speaker 2: of oh or you know, Alabama and supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: this year, Oklahoma ANDAs supposed to be and all these
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  Speaker 2: big name programs. I got news for you. Penn State
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  Speaker 2: is not in that tier. They're probably not in the
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  Speaker 2: tier right below that. I would say they're they're a
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  Speaker 2: third tier. Even with all the one hundred and seven
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  Speaker 2: thousand seat stadium and they and the big you know,
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  Speaker 2: alumni base and all that stuff, it's hard to take
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  Speaker 2: them seriously right now. Ye're absolutely And I live in
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  Speaker 2: central Pennsylvania where they are the home team and everybody
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  Speaker 2: leads blue and white. But it's just like, guys, you
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  Speaker 2: got to wake up. You're they're not that. It's not
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  Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six anymore. The glory days are, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the glory days at this point. If they were a
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  Speaker 2: person could drink, could vote, got married and had kids
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  Speaker 2: at this point, that's how old the glory days are
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  Speaker 2: for Penn State. So uh, wake up, not that anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And this coaching search, to me is just proven that.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely you're absolutely. Yeah, really quick, just so I can
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  Speaker 1: before you get to your number two. Yeah, I absolutely
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  Speaker 1: agree with you with Penn State. I really do. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like the Penn State fan base anymore is like
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  Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboy fan base holding on to the glory days,
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  Speaker 1: like you just mentioned, not realizing that, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: especially after this year, those glory days. They're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be coming back anytime soon. It's it's gonna be a long,
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  Speaker 1: long time. I'm still gonna enjoy going to games with
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  Speaker 1: my family.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's yeah, it's something you do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still gonna enjoy. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: When they have to back door into saying, Okay, Terry Smith,
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  Speaker 2: here's the job because nobody else wanted it, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: a horrendous look. Absolutely, And that's nothing, you know, nothing,
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  Speaker 2: no offense to Terry Smith, but uh, it's just a bad.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, what's your number two?
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  Speaker 2: Number two is with regard to the Flyers, and you
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  Speaker 2: know they're they're they're fun to watch, they are interesting.
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  Speaker 2: They did make some moves and improved a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But I wish and this isn't going to be a
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  Speaker 2: popular opinion at all because people are tired of the losing.
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  Speaker 2: They want to win. I get it. I understand it.
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  Speaker 2: So if you want to write in and say Land
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  Speaker 2: you're an idiot, I get it. I understand it. But
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  Speaker 2: I just you know, okay, Mitch cough is you know good?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe Marton will be good. I just think you needed
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  Speaker 2: to rebuild for another year and just get a crack
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  Speaker 2: at one more like top prospect because to me, the
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  Speaker 2: the when I look at the at the at the team,
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  Speaker 2: it's still Mitch Cough maybe martone down the road and
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of guys, and I just even with yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and I like secrets, you know, but where's where's the
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: where's the first line center on this team? And where
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: where is the shutdown Norris Trophy contending defenseman on this team?
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  Speaker 2: Where are they? Where are you going to get them?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the CAP's going to go up a little bit,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: they'll have more money, but guess what sold everybody else.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't the nineties where a salary cap when Ed
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Snyder could just buy whoever he had his heart set on.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia is not warm, it's not a destination the players
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  Speaker 2: want to go to. It's not in a tax friendly,
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  Speaker 2: you know area. There's none of those things that make
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: you want to go to that place. And if they
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  Speaker 2: don't have, you know, I don't know, maybe maybe they'll
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  Speaker 2: get somebody to sign there. I don't know, but I
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  Speaker 2: just I don't know. I don't kind of what I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: was talking about with the union earlier, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: they still need to search for that guy because I
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: think you need you need a number of those. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, if if Mitchkoff and maybe
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  Speaker 2: martone down the road or if they're going to be enough,
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  Speaker 2: I think you I think you just need more in
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: that pipeline to convince me that down the road this
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: team is going to be really good.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting that you mentioned this because the Flyers, while
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  Speaker 1: they don't have like a ton a ton of picks,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there have been articles written, things that I've
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  Speaker 1: read heard about where it's like, will they actually take
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  Speaker 1: a leap at the trade deadline using some future picks
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  Speaker 1: to get that guy that you're talking about? And I
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  Speaker 1: think possible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is possible. And when I talk about number
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  Speaker 2: one defenseman, okay, let's talk about somebody like Quinn Hughes
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  Speaker 2: from Vancouver, very familiar with Rick Pocket. Yeah, that'd be
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  Speaker 2: great in all if his two brothers weren't playing a
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  Speaker 2: couple miles up the road in New Jersey. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if you trade for Quinn Hughes, that's great, but you
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  Speaker 2: better have a extension. You better lock him up as
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: a condition of that trade, right, because if you do
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  Speaker 2: a trade and he's able to walk in a year,
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  Speaker 2: or two. Guess what I'd want to play with my
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  Speaker 2: brothers in New Jersey too, And you're gonna make that
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  Speaker 2: trade for nothing, So that to me, if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to trade for Quinn Hughes, awesome, but that is conditional
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  Speaker 2: upon him signing a long term extension in Philip.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, it's fair, it's fair. I think that's a fair.
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  Speaker 1: Number two for sure that you are not grateful or
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  Speaker 1: thankful for here in the world of Philly sports. My
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  Speaker 1: number two len of something I'm not thankful for in
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  Speaker 1: the world of Philly sports. And this may seem obvious
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  Speaker 1: because it is a sixer storyline that we talk about
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  Speaker 1: over and over and over, but we have to because
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  Speaker 1: of where the team is at and where it could
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  Speaker 1: possibly go, as we are going to be talking about
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  Speaker 1: this back court and the promise that is there. But
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  Speaker 1: for me, what I'm not thankful for is Joel Embiid's
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  Speaker 1: and Paul George's contracts. I mean, for Embiid, the contract
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  Speaker 1: extension he signed in September twenty twenty five begins in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty twenty twenty twenty six twenty twenty seven season
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  Speaker 1: runs through twenty twenty nine. Just locking in that large
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  Speaker 1: salary for the coming years, and with Paul George four
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  Speaker 1: years that two hundred and eleven point five million dollar
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: contract he signed in July of last year, and it
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: included a player option for the final season, making the
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: deal even riskier for the Sixers. So for me, the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: contracts just create this major uncertainty around the team's future
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: because of the high likelihood that neither player will be
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: consistently available. And we continue to see that here in
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, you know, potentially dooming seasons before they
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: even begin down the road. Who knows what's going to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: happen with these contracts and what Darryl Mory may be
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: able to do, if anything. But for me, I'm not
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: thankful for Joel Embiid's and Paul George's contracts.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now I U one hundred percent agree, And when
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: we get to my number one, we're going to be
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: on the same topic.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. It's a great sad way,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, like you said, I mean, I have you know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: I have a spot track up now cap it in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven for Embiid fifty
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: eight million, one hundred dollars. That's thirty five percent of
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the cap twenty seven, twenty twenty eight sixty two million,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: seven hundred and forty eight thousand dollars and then twenty
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty twenty nine sixty seven million, three hundred
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: and ninety six thousand dollars for a guy that And listen,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I I I'm sure that Joel Embiid wants to play.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I hear him, you know, say this all
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: the time. I don't think it's a thing of you know, oh,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: he's just loafing and he doesn't care. I don't think
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it's that. I don't think he genuinely wants to play.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: But to give that money to a guy that has
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: is big, so you have a big body frame and
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: then you've got one leg that was hurt for a
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: while now the other one is that's that's the foundation
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: of carrying that that frame on a guy that is
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: now on the wrong side of thirty, who has historically
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: never been healthy. It is irresponsible and irresponse is being kind.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Darryl Morey should and I think I said it in
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: a in a group chat a lot. If I could
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: catapult him into the sun, I would he. I mean,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: this contract is a genuine albatross. And I'm not even
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I haven't even gotten into Paul George yet, who also
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: but like, think of, okay, think about your best case
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: scenario for Joel Embiid. Yeah, okay, fifty fifty game regular
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: season and then hoping for a healthy playoff run from him.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Do you know that is to me the best case
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: scenario for him going forward, which has never happened, Which
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: has never happened, right, and now at age thirty one,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: do you think it's gonna start happening now or do
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: you think it's more in the in the you know,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: twenty to thirty games a year range every year going forward? Yeah,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I know which one I'm betting on, and it's not
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: the good option. So I mean, and that's and you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: have that going forward? You know you have And I
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: don't know if this is a Mory trader if it
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: was for Morey, but you know, a team that just
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: won the damn NBA Championship in the thunder and they
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: have our first round pick unless it's like one through four,
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: it's just like we're we're about to talk about all
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: these good guards that they have and how exciting it
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: is and fun to watch them, and man, they just
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: have nobody, no bigs to play off of there. I mean,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: you know, Barlow and Watford have been interesting in spots,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: but those aren't NBA primetime bigs. Those aren't bigs that
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: are part of a contending, you know, championship team. It's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: just not so now we're now we're wasting you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the fruitful beginning part of these young guards careers on
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: on Albatross's in the front court and em beating George
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: who just I mean and Paul George twenty twenty six,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven fifty four million and change, twenty twenty seven,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight fifty six and a half million dollars
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: a year. So it's just all of that money, and
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you know, Paul George is maybe you're going to get
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: maybe half a season out of him. He's thirty five,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: and he's going to be getting that money over the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: next couple of years. It is I mean, there are
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: drunken sailors at Port that just got paid that spend
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: money more conservatively than Darryl. It is unbelievable how bad
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: he's set this franchise back. It is borderline criminal, It
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: really is. Yeah, Darryl Morey, I am not thankful for you,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: My number one buddy. Before we go to our first
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: break here, it is the Philadelphia Eagles offense looking the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: way that it does with basically what else could it be, Yeah, exactly,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: with basically having the same group of guys that won
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl just a season ago. And I think
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: for me, really the run game and how Kevin Petula
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: has gone from a play design starting with the offensive line.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: What do we always say on this podcast, you are
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: not gonna have a productive offense if you don't have
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a solid offensive line in the run game or the
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: passing game. The run game went from historically good to bad.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I mean the look in this offensive line. They still
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: pass protect at a pretty high level. We are still
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: seeing that, but the run blocking has just been straight
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: up terrible. Bizarre assignments on run calls. They're asking interior
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: offensive linemen to basically reach block across two plus gaps
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: against quick interior defensive lineman or two hundred and thirty
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: pounds tight ends without a without like a mean bone
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: in their body, being asked to kick out and block
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: edge rushers. There's no reason Grant cal Katara should be
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: doing that, and they swing between gap and zone without
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: tying it all together. And Kevin Pittulo has done quite
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: a job, a baffling job, I should say, of putting
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: this offense together with with Nick Sirianni's blessing for thirteen
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: weeks of play. You know, it's just it's the one
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: thing I am not thankful for. It's like the same
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: guys on offense, except for Tyler Steen at this point,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's like the same.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Guys and Lane Johnson has been out, I guess, but yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: all the same skill players, most of the same offensive line.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: You know. Look, I know Hearts is at his moments
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: where he hasn't been great, and Barkley is, you know,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: seemingly taking a huge step back. But what's new here
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: and what seems to be the problem and has been
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the problem all season long? Yep, and it's and it's
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the offensive play calling. I don't know what this guy
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: has to do, yeah to get fired. I really don't. Yeah.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I almost like want to go to a press conference
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: where Sirianni's taking questions and just say, let me know now,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: if we're going to continue to do this, I'm going
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: to run back to twenty twenty three when you guys
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: shit the bed for the rest of the season. Yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: and I'll reopen my FanDuel account and I'll just start
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: betting against you guys again.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: But if that's what we're gonna do, let me know
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: and then I'll make some money off the money and yep,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: and we can go from there, because that's what they're
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: doing right now. It's it's it's disheartening to watch. I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: mean it just you can't have watched either of the
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: I mean hell previous two games, but even a lot
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: of the stuff before that and thought to yourself, this
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: team's ready for a big playoff run, right, It's it's
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: just not feasible on one thing I wanted to ask you, Yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: and just curious and it's not a huge thing. I'm
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: not and I'm not saying, oh, bench Saquan, which because
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: it's ridiculous, but I just feel like when they give
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby Rushes, Yeah, he does a nice job.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: He does. He's averaging like eight nine yards of carry
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Should we maybe give him a couple more carries? You're
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: absolutely right, Yes, it seems to be. That seems to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: be working. All right. I'm not saying, Okay, Tank Bigsby's
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the lead running back right now, we're benching Saquan that's
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: an absurd notion. But if that's an aspect of the offense,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it's actually working. Hey, let's do more of that.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you would give him five or six
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: more running plays per game, I don't think there'd be
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: anything wrong with that, len at all.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: No, not at all.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: No, Absolutely, he's getting large chunk plays. And yes, eight
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: nine yards of carry is not sustainable and that number
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: is going to come down if you give him five
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: or six more carries. But at the end of the day,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: he's being productive. You know, he's being productive, and that's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: what you want from there. Oh my gosh, So you're
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: absolutely correct. We absolutely should be seeing more Tank Bigsby
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for sure. So that's the end of our list here, folks.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: We're going to take a break. And before we get
• 26:45
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• 26:47
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• 27:00
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• 27:02
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• 27:05
  Speaker 1: us out there. So we're gonna take a break and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: when we come back, got some quick Sixers talk, some
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: quick Flyers talk. We'll be back in just a bit.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: All right, we're back and we are now gonna dive
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: into some pretty quick talk with regard to the Philadelphia
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: seventy six Ers and the Flyers that I believe it
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: or not, our top three list took a little longer
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: when I thought it was gonna that. I thought it
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: was gonna take a great discussion, but really, you know
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: your discussion points on your top three list about the Sixers,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: about Embiid's contract, Paul George's contract. But what we're seeing
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: from this Sixers back court now with Maxi, Edgecomb and McCain,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: they are the future that is taking shape. There are
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: two dichotomies going on here. You have the future in
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: front of us that we are loving to watch night
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: after night. Tyrese, Maxi, we're talking an NBA All Star
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: like like we're talking like a top six player in
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the NBA. VJ. Edgecombe just so fun to watch as well,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: McCain's gonna be getting back into the fold here, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: it's being squandered because of Embiid and George. But I
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: just want to focus on the positive here because I
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: look at this, yeah, this backcourt buddy, and it does
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: give me that bit of hope and promise for the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: future when it comes to the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Like that's how I'm feeling right now. And maybe I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: just grasping onto this hope that they're gonna be able
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: to take things in such a new direction that the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: other two albatrosses won't necessarily matter, even though I know
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: in the back of my mind they will. But I
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: love what we're seeing from these guys, especially Edgecombe and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Tyrese Maxi. It's been really great to watch.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing, you know, you gotta just
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna stick through a season with the team,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: you have to find the things that are worth watching.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: And right, you know, maybe the Sixers won't necessarily be
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: a good team, but with those guards that they have,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they might be a fun team. And listen, if you're
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: not going to be good, you might as well be fun, right,
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it's it's really great to watch
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Edgecombe blossom athletically and just you know, as he's going
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to continue to learn in the league, just watch him
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: grow as a player. I think McCain is going to
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: be a really good bench guard if Maury doesn't trade
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: him for, you know, to try to get somebody else
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: in here, which who knows. And then maxi is I mean,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: just the leaps that he's taken. I remember when he
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: was drafted kinda I didn't really know a lot about him.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I saw a little bit of him and Kentucky, but
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: felt like, Okay, you know, he's a guy, maybe maybe
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: he'll be good, especially kind of where they draft him.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I think he's like twenty first or whatever. And he's
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: just become so much more than I ever thought he would.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And you just watch from year to year, leaps in
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: his game every single year the point now where it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: just like, man, he really is one of the top
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: twenty players in the NBA. It's it's crazy to see.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: And and also how it's just it's everybody knows it,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: nobody fights it. This used to be joel On Beiad's team.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: This is Tyrese Maxie's team now and everybody just accepts
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: it and they're on board with it. And he even
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: in his demeanor, it seems like he just more confident,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: more self assured. He's a leader, and it's great to.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: See absolutely, and real quick, buddy, before we get to
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: some flyers talking, before I let you go here, I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: think Jared McCain. Of course, he was down in the
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: G League. He had a stint there, just kind of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: getting back into some form after his injury. The thing
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: with McCain is, and I read this recently as well.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I think it might have been Kyle Nubeck over at
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: phl Y that wrote something along the lines of the
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: fact that McCain is theoretically the trickiest fit on the
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: roster because basically he's a guard that's really kind of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: too small to help Tyrese Maxey from a defensive standpoint,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: kind of complicates the rotations and the lineup combinations. But
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: just he's so smart, the touch that he has, like
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: he understands his game so much, it's kind of hard
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to shove him aside or even put him in a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: box at all. And I think because he has scored
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: double digits in four of his last five games and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: he's a playmaker as well. It's it's really tough to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: say that he can't necessarily be a key figure on
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: this team moving forward.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, maybe, you know, maybe he is
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: just a quintessential, really good bench guard. Maybe he's you know, defensively,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: you know, he's not going to wow you. But you know,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: maybe he is just your classic instant offense guard off
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: of the bench, which you know, anybody it's of a
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: certain age in Detroit remembers Vinnie Johnson the microwave. He
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: was that guard right off the bench. It would just
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: come in and hit some shots and just give you offense.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: And maybe in a perfect case scenario, that's what McCain
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: could be for the Sixers. And he you know that
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a limited stint he had last season, he showed it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: He showed his cable put up the big numbers. And
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: you know, he's missed a lot of time, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: with with the injuries, so developmentally it might be holding
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: him back a little bit. I mean, I know that
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: the shooting numbers aren't great so far this season, but
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you know, as he gets reps and gets you know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: more into the flow of things, I expect those numbers
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: to tick up incrementally incrementally, and I think, I think
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: will eventually be be perfectly fine. I have no concerns
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: about the Sixers backcourt at all going forward. You know,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: it's just a matter of, you know, how do you
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: how do you make the front court better? But yeah,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: for right now, I mean, the backcourt's fun to watch.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: It's fun to see the uh, just the kind of
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: around the league, the recognition. Because I was watching a
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: clip from a podcast, which is weird. JJ Redick has
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: a podcast that he does with Lebron James. I just
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: having a player and a coach do a podcast together
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: is just strange to me. But they were talking about
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Tyree Maxie and Lebron James at one point in the clip,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: and he sounds exasperated when he's when he says it,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: but they're talking about Maxie and he and he just
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: goes that motherfucker just never gets tired. Yeah, And it's
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: it's just fun to see, you know, a a top five,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: top three at whatever you want to consider him, all
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: time player like Lebron James say that about the young
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: emerging guard on your team. It's cool to see it.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely is let us know you're thinking about this Sixers team.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: We would love to hear from you, Philadelphia Sports Table
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Shoot us off an email. We'd
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: love to read it here on the show, or if
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: you'd like leave a comment. If you're watching on YouTube,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: what are you thinking about with this Philadelphia seventy six
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: ers team. Let us know, Len before I let you go,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: we want to dive into the Flyers losing Tyson Forrester
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: now for months, what does this actually mean for the team?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Had the upper body injury that was really kind of
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: just bizarre the way that it looked as it was
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: it was happening. And and so I'm gonna be talking to
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Kelly Hinkel from Broadstreet Hockey dot com about this as well.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: But I think for me, Forrester was already a really, really,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: really good hockey player. And I think it's tough. This
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: is so tough for us to swallow, because you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: we take one step forward with this team, to only
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: take two steps back, it seems like that's happening all
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: the time. He scored ten goals in his first twenty
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: one games here. This season, he was on a thirty
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: nine goal pace over eighty two games and a thirty
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: seven goal pace. Accounting for the four games that he
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: missed in November with his injured foot, only twelve NHL
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: players scored more than thirty seven goals last season to
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: kind of put this pace into context. So this is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a huge loss for the seventy for seventy six ers,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: for the Flyers, huge huge loss. And we're going to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: get into you know, who is going to maybe replace
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: him with Kelly and stuff too, But like, it really
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: sucks man to lose him due to the season he
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was having. Again, this Flyers team just can't catch a
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: break sometimes.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it sucks because earlier on I was talking about, Okay,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: your foundational pieces in Mitchikoff and potentially Martone once he
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: you know, comes up from Michigan State. But I mean,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: Van Forster was a guy that you know, has become
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: more than I thought he was going to be. You know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: sound defensive player, has been scoring at a great clip.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, you talk, I don't know if he's someone
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: you would consider a foundational piece, but he's a hell
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of a complimentary player, yep. I mean he's a guy
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: that you need. You need guys like that on your
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: team if you're gonna contend and it's a shame he's
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: going to miss so much time, especially you know, he's
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: still a young guy and he's still developing too, so
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: this is going to cut, as we said about McCain
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: into his development a little bit. So yeah, it's a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: bad break, literally, I guess. Yeah, you know it sucks.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I mean because he's you know, one of those guys
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: that when you tune into the Flyers, you know, he's
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: one of the guys that I think your eyes are drawn.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, buddy, I know that was a shorter segment,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: but I know you gotta get going, man, you gotta
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you gotta get up for work in a few hours here,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: So you have any final thoughts, You got any final
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: thoughts here before I let you go.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Now, let's uh. I don't know. Maybe Penn State will
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: be calling you or I about that.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Honestly, there would be so many great coaches that just
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: getting a microphone or sit on their couch that understand
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the game of football. Who knows. Maybe we can hold
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: out hope, Maybe we can hold out hope that it happens.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I know you've been looking for a new job, right.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Sure, I'll take that job. I won't even cost as
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: much as most.
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't. I mean you don't even need millions, right,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you'd like them, but you don't need it. Yes, sure, right, buddy,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go. We're gonna go to break everybody
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: when we get back. We got Kelly Hinkle from Broadstreet
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: Hockey dot Com to talk more about this Flyers team.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Stick around, We'll be right back.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: And now on the table.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: And joining us to dive into this Philadelphia Flyers team
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and what has been happening, my gosh on the ice
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: with so much of this talent. There's a lot of
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: storylines to get into with regard to the Philadelphia Flyers.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: We have from broad Street Hockey dot Com and she's
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: also over at phl y talking some Flyers every now
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and again. We've got our good friend Kelly Hinkle. Kelly,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us here.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, Jeff, You know I love coming
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: on here with you guys.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Great talking Flyers with you all the time all the time.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Look Like I said, there's so many storylines to dive
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: into with regard to this team, and honestly, I've just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I've enjoyed watching this Flyers team so far this year.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: But the one puzzling aspect and an individual on this
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: team we got to get into right off the bat,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and it's Matt Ve, Mitchkoff, and man. Monday night, we
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: saw Rick Tocket actually giving Mitchkoff some more more ice
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: time and a powerplay shift right after the Tyson Forrester injury,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: which we're gonna get to in a little bit. Lenn
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and I were actually just talking about that as well.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: But look, Kelly, I hope that we see Matt Bay
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Mitchkov more and more on the ice as I've been
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: really kind of getting tired of the whole narrative of
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: you know, what's happening with Mitchkov and taking and why
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: has his offensive creativity been stifled by Rick Talcket blah
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: blah blah. I'm kind of getting tired of these narratives
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and those those behind the scenes storylines that we've been
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: hearing about. So what what are your overall thoughts on
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Matt Bay Mitchkov's season thus far and what we're seeing
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: from him, and if you think Rick Tackett is going
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to give him some more playing time in the future here.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: So I mean, as much as I want to blame
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Rick Talcket, for kind of the overall mot Beay Michkov
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: picture that we've seen so far this season. I mean,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: Michkov did not come into the season playing like we
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: expected him to. He didn't look very good. He struggled
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: a lot at the start, and it really took some
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: time for him to get his legs under himself. And now, thankfully,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: it looks like he has, which is obviously great news
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: for everybody. And it seems like as his play has
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: gotten better, tak It has kind of started to increase
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: his ice time.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: It seems like maybe it took.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: Talk It a little while to kind of fully trust
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: that Mitchkov was back to what we expect.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Him to be, right.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Because he started to turn things around, and the ice
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: time really didn't increase as much as I think a
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: lot of fans would have liked it to. But lately,
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: like you said, he's been getting some power play time.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Charlie O'Connor, looks like he's is at practice this morning.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: He's on the top power play unit with Zegres and
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: practice today, So it looks like that's going to be
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: an ongoing thing, which I think is great. So yeah,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: it's it's kind of like I think it's it's less
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: tack it as much. Like, to be quite honest with you,
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: I kind of want I kind of want to blame
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: it on Talcket, like I thought that, like not to
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: get off topic, but like I thought before the season
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: started that like Rick Tocket was going to kind of
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: like make me look stupid for having the opinions about
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: him that I had, right, And I honestly that I
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: would have welcomed to that because that would have been
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: great news for the Flyers and for me personally as
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: a fan.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: If he has all the way I mean, like he's
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: he's definitely not John Tortorella. But so far, I kind
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: of haven't seen the sort of like forward thinking, progressive
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: coach that he kind of sounded like he was going
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: to be when he was giving interviews before the season.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: We were all propping him up. We were all propping
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: him up that was going to happen because we wanted
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: to right.
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: We wanted to happen right.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: We wanted this not to be an old hockey man choice.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: We wanted this not to be like, oh, this guy
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: just got hired Jones, Like we really wanted it to be. Yes,
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: you know the best possible version, which is like that
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: this whole thing that like Rick talkt is some kind
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: of coaching paragon and we just don't understand and everyone
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: thinks he's so great and you're gonna see so far.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: I'm really sure that I've seen that.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: But you know, well, we're gonna get into it more. Yeah,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: we're gonna get into him more. Teaser everybody. That's what
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: We're gonna close the interview out. We're gonna get out. Yeah,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk more Rick Tocket in the future here
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: on this, in this discussion here. But look, Kelly, let's
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: let's move over to an injury that that really is
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: gonna play a pretty big role I think in what
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: happens with this Flyers team over the next few months.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Here I mentioned the Tyson Forrester injury, and it really
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: was a very awkward looking upper body injury. Yeah, I mean,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I just wonder what it's going to mean for this
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: team here moving forward over these next few months. I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: swear to God, this freaking team, every time they take
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a step forward, it's two steps back with something else.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Incredibly frustrating when these things happen and occur so like
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, are you like I've read. I've read some
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: things that Charlie O'Connor, our friend has has written as well.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Hearing other Flyers podcast too, folks talking about this, are
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: you thinking that we might see Bunk or Gribenkan it
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: replaces Forrester in the short term and the long term?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Who do you think really needs to step up here?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: So it looks like in the short term it's going
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: to be Gribenkin. Yeah, he's the one that's kind of
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: slided in on that third line in practice today. So
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: looking like short term is going to be Gribenkin that's
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: getting an opportunity to step up and see what he
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: can do on a line with Kate's and Brink. Obviously,
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Nikita Gribenkin is not Tyson Forrester. Forster has been one
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: of the Flyers' best players this season, So of course,
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: like you said, of course it's him that goes down
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: with a freak injury. Ye, and he's going to be
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: out for two to three months, which is just wild,
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: Like that's it's pretty much, you know, not untill after
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: the Olympic break, we probably won't see him, which is
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: just like crazy. But it looks like it's going to
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: be Gribencan getting the opportunity. I know that Alex Bump
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: you mentioned. I think he was looking pretty good. Maddy
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Campbell of her at Brushreet Hockey, she does a lot
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: of fantoms coverage for us, and she recently wrote something
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: about this that Bump kind of got a slow start
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: and then was like really bringing it on and he
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: was looking great and it was like, oh man, when
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: are they going to call this guy up? But at
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: that time, there wasn't really a spot for him. Now
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: that there is a spot for him, he has kind
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: of cooled off over the last couple of weeks. I
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: don't think he's got any goals in like maybe the
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: last five or six games, so he's.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: Definitely cooled off.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: So now it's kind of like, well, is he the
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: guy that you want to bring up and kind of
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: do you want to throw him into the NHL when
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: he's not playing as good as he was before in
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: the AHL.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: I think it'll be interesting with as long term as
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: this injury is, I think we're probably going to see
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: a few different things. Like I said, Grebengen looks like
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: he's going to get the first shot at this. They
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: called up Grunstrom from the Fantoms as well, so he'll
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: he'll probably get some games. See what he looks like.
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: You got Anthony Richard with the Fantoms, who always looks
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: good when he's up here. I mean, obviously he's not,
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: you know, a high end talent, but whenever he's in
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: the lineup, he does some stuff, which is great.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: There's obviously Nick de Laurie is gonna factor noad.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say, the one word that
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: comes to mind is you're mentioning all these players, is
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: the word opportunity. There's going to be the opportunity for
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: somebody to really take the reins here and show Rick Tacket,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: show the organization what they have here. And that's what
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I'm actually going to be most excited about.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is that is exciting.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, that is the positive thing that comes out
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: of injuries like this is that you know, you lose
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: a good player. Sure, but yeah, there are a lot
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: of opportunities for guys to step up.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm hoping Grebngen does something with it.
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: I mean he he's obviously, again he's not a Tyson
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Force or talent. But he's shown flashes that you know
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: that he could be an effective and fun player in
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: the NHL, and it's only been flashes. So it'll be
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: cool to see if he can maybe like on a
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: line with guys like Kate's and Brink who are obviously
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: playing very well. Maybe he can make something out of this.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know, And if he doesn't, I think we're
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: going to see a lot of shuffling things around. I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: think Riktokt's going to have to figure out what line
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: combinations are going to work best, what players are going
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: to fit and where, and uh, yeah, it's gonna be
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be a fun experience for all of us.
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: They want to see how this shakes out. But yeah,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: you're right, opportunity is the big story here, and so
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: I hope someone takes the reins and kind of really
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: runs with this.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: And we're gonna be able to see what type of
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: coach Ricktocket is as well in terms of this challenging situation.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: We're certainly going to talk about challenging, yeah, Rick Tocket
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: some more, But first before doing that, a couple more
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: storylines to get in two and before we go to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a break. I also wanted to dive into it. There
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: was a really cool story over on Broadstreet Hockey dot com. Folks,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: head on over there, great great piece by your colleague
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Thomas Williams, who we've had on the show as well. Yeah,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: just talking about three stats that are going to make
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: or break this Flyer season and reading over that article,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, I thought he really put the nail on
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: the head like I or hit the nail on the head,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I should say, and those three of folks, if you
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: haven't read it yet again, go on over to Broadstreet
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Hockey dot Com find that article Three stats that will
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: make or break the Flyer season, danveld Vladar's high danger
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: save percentage, Trevor Zegers's five on five on a shooting percentage,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: and the Flyers five on five goals four percentage. So
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I'm wondering, of all three of these, Kelly here, which
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of these three do you think is actually the most
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: important from a stats perspective long term for the Flyers
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: this season? Why? So?
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: The long term addition to that question I think makes
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: things interesting. Okay, because if we were just talking like
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: in a vacuum maybe for this season, I'd probably say
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: it's Bladar's play because he's been such a surprise. He's
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: been so outstanding, and he really has I think, kept
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: the Flyers in games that they had no business being
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: in a way that we haven't seen from a goaltender
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: in a while. So I do think that in the
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: short term, the play of Dan Vladar, I think, is
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: what's going to keep this team kind of in the
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: playoff picture, especially because the offense has been kind of inconsistent.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: But long term, I think that Zegris, I mean, you
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: gotta go with Migris because he is he has the
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: potential to be such a cornerstone of this rebuild.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah we're seeing it, Yeah.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Exactly that if he can keep it up.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: And I think his shooting percentage right now is something ridiculous,
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Like I think it's like thirteen or something like. It's
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: don't don't quote me, no fact check that, but I
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: do think it's like unsustainably high. I should have looked
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: before we started, but I think it's probably a little
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: bit unsustainably high right now. So I mean, you can
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: never expect a player, I think, to consistently shoot eleven, twelve,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: thirteen percent, Like that's just crazy. But long term, we
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: need him to be an elite level goal scorer in
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: the NHL, Like we need him to be this guy,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: and so far he's really been delivering, and I think
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: what was promised. It's it's kind of like it's one
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: of those things where it's been so rare for us
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: as Flyers fans to get these kinds of wins where
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, for I feel like, for like two or
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: three years, Flyers fans have been like, we should get
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Trevor secrets. Why don't they like Trevor's secres, We should
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: get Trevor' segress, Like, why don't we get him, Like
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: we should totally get him, that would work. And then
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: they got him, and they got him for practically nothing, right,
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: and then you're like, this is the kind of thing
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: where it's like, oh God, remember when we got Ryan
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Ellis turned nothing?
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: How'd that turn off?
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Rights?
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Not great?
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: So it's like one of those things where you're just
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: waiting for the other shoe to drop, because that's what
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: always happens to us. But so far, he's just like
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: looked as Trevor Zegris's advertised, like he just looks great, yes,
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: And that I think is something that the Flyers really
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: need to be sustainable long term if this rebuild the
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: way that they're doing it is going to work.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a fantastic take, and I would
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: agree with you on that. Of all three of those
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: stats that William wrote in his article, definitely that's the
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: at the top. Trevor Ziegriss, So really quick, folks, going
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to take a quick break, and when we get back,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into some more Flyers talk. We'll
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: be back in just a bit. All right, we are
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: back with our good friend Kelly Hinkle from Broadstreet Hockey
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: dot Com. I'm a subscriber head on over there. They
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: have fantastic content. Now as we're moving along here, Kelly,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: a two part question for you. The first is, you know,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I think we've seen some surprises so far this season,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: but I'm wondering which player on this Flyers team has
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: really been the most surprising for you. As we're starting
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: December here, we're really starting to see some things come
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: together for this team. Who's been the most surprising for
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: you so far?
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: Vladar?
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Like, I don't want to repeat myself, but but yes,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: absolute here's the thing, like getting going into the season,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: the biggest question mark was goaltending. We had no idea
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: what this was going to look like. Sam Yerson was
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: not great last season. Yeah, Dan Vladar you know, was
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: a backup pretty much in Calgary on a team that
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: wasn't very good, and his numbers weren't, you know, anything outstanding.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: This could have gone a million different ways, could have
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: this could have been just as bad as last season. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: And I don't think anyone would have been surprised. But
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: he has been legitimately really freaking good, like just making
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: like lights out safe. It was, like I said before,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: keeping the Flyers in games that they have no business
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: being and like and I think it's pretty clear that
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: the team when he's in that the team seems to
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: play I think a little better in front of him
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: because they trust that he's going to make the save
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: when they need him to. And it's not at all
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: what I expected to see from like Damn Latar. I
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people when the Flyers got him
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: were like, like, why would you, like, why is this
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: the route that we're going we need to?
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: All? Right? Like I guess, but.
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: He's been like I think that like best case scenario
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: in my mind heading into the season was like, all right,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: they'll be like league average, it'll be better than last season.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: It won't be a disaster, it'll be fine. Whatever he's been,
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: he's been legitimately good.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Legitimately good, really needs.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Exactly and it's been so fun to watch, and it like.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: It really makes games more enjoyable because I think last season,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: every single time the puck went the other way, you're like, ooh,
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: like what's gonna happen?
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: Like, I feel like every shot on goal last season
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: had the potential.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Of going in, yeah, yep.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: And this season it's like now like Fladar's got it.
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Like every start that he has, I'm expecting that the
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: team's gonna win because he's been so good and it's
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: it's not at all what I expected. I would be
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: surprised if anyone expected this from Dan Vladar, including Danny Brier, Like,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I really can't expect that they thought.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: That he was going to be this good. But it's
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: been a great surprise and it's been a lot of
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: fun to watch.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Absolutely well. On the flip side of that, we've also
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: been frustrated with certain players on this team. You know,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you know, we week by week, you know, and and
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: some players may be more frustrated with them longer term.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering which player, in your opinion, desperately needs
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: to start stepping up since they've been a disappointment thus far.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Who's that player for you?
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: So this is kind of interesting because like, at different
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: points during this season, I would have had really easy
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: answers for this question. Like at one point, the easy
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: answer would have been Owen Tippet. At one point, the
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: easy answer would have been Matvey Mitchkoff. Yeah, you know,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: Travis Knnectney I think could have fit in there at
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: some points during the season.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: And honestly, like the connecting thing.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: Is weird because even though his numbers aren't bad and
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: they've been better lately than they had been over the
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: course of the early part of the season, Like his
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: points total is like not bad. When you look at
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: the box sets, it doesn't look like he's having a
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: bad season. But for whatever reason, when I watched Travis
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: kdecty this season, I'm like, the field, what's.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: Going on with them? Like, yeah, the vibe is not
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: is not what it?
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's like the swagger that we're
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: used to seeing from him, Like the confidence is not
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be the same. Like it's just like
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: watching him feel different. And for some reason, despite the
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: fact that the numbers aren't terrible, I watched Travis connecting
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, dude, i't want more from you, Like
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: you're supposed to be one of this team his best players.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: I need you to look like one of the team's
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: best players, you know what I mean. Like, I don't
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: need you to just have good box stats because you're
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: getting assists, right, which obviously is important, Like obviously making
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: plays to get to goals of important, obviously, But like
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: I want to watch Travis Knnecty like I did last
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: season and think, this guy's really really good. He is
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: one of the best players on the team. This contract
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: is great, We're gonna be able to depend on him forever.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: And for some reason, this season, I just don't I
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: don't feel that way, and I don't think it's just me.
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: It's not because the vibes are important. But when we
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: watch sports, I mean, it doesn't even matter if it's hockey,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: any sport. A guy can put up the stats, the
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: box score can look great, but if you're not getting
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: the vibes from him, then yeah, then there's something there.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, just case in point. You know a lot
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: of us watching the Philadelphia Eagles right now, Jalen Hurts
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: is putting up some really good numbers in a lot
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: of different ways, but you know what, we're not feeling it.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: We don't have the vibues. We don't have those great
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: vibes right now, even though he's putting on a damn
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: good clinic as a quarterback in the NFL this season,
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: it's just it's not the it's not the best vibe situation.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: So so I would say right now, there's no one
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: that I'm looking at and like, buddy, you got to
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: do better. I mean, like Sam Marrison could be better.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: But like, to be quite honest with you, I don't
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: expect Sam Marrison to be better at this point. Yeah,
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I think he is what he is. Mietchkof is looking
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: gright now, so I know quarrels with him at the moment.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Although he could probably stop taking so many stupid penalties.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: Yes, that's probably something he could work on.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I just I want to see Travis Connecty
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: look like the Travis Connecty that we saw last season
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: when he was on pace to be like one hundred
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: point player and kind of just like find that confidence
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: and that swagger and that kind of leadership vibe that
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: we were getting from him. I want to see that
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: because you know, we're stuck, for better or for worse,
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: We're probably stuck with Travis Connectey. Yeah, for the probably
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: the length of this contract really clear, I had to
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: be one of the best guys.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I was gonna say, what's interesting about this topic?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: When I put this on the agenda for us, my
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: thoughts were I would have expected, say, three four months ago,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: that with this particular topic, we would have said a
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: defensive player or we would have said something with regard
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: to the defense. And guess what, Yes, Nope, not at all.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: And again that may go to, like, what is some
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: of the most surprising this season, back to our prior topic,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: is the fact that the defense has stepped up in
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: so many ways this year. The fact that we didn't
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: mention a defensive player at all during this disappointing segment
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: here really says a lot about where this team is
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: at defensively.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm sure that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: This is something that we talked about before this season.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: But like, looking at this roster on paper heading into
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: the season, it was like, all right, offense looks pretty good,
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: nothing to worry about. Their defense, Ooh, that's going to
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: be a disaster. Goaltending, Oh god, I don't know what
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: that's going to be. And the defense and the goaltending
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: have been two of the most like they've been most
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: reliable parts of this team. It's been the offense that's
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: been kind of like wishy washy and the guys that
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: you want a little bit more from. So yeah, you're right,
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: like I would have expected to be like, you know,
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: I need more from Nick Steeler or whatever.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: But like the defense has looked.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: The defense has looked way better than I would have
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: expected at the start of the season.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'll tell you right now, good vibes in this
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: interview and discussion right now, we really do. But that
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: may change in just a second, folks, because before we
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: let Kelly go, you know, we got to talk about
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Rick tocket his coaching, his early coaching tenure here as
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Flyers head coach. I mean, I think we
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: are all very glad that John Tortorella isn't coaching this team. Anymore.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I think we can all say that with some certainty.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: But we have been seeing the ups and downs with
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Rick Tockett here, and I guess piggybacking off what you
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: were saying at the top of our discussion, Kelly, you know,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: there are some interesting decisions at times that he makes,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: some that I know a lot of us in Flyers
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Nation are like, what the hell's going on? What are
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: you doing? Wondering how the relationship is going with certain players?
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering what grade would you give Rick tocket
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: thus far during his short tenure as a Flyers head coach,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: and why.
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go, I'm going to be generous and
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: I'm going to ignore my instincts here.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say I'm going to say C plus.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I think.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: The team is on the whole, the team is performing well.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: They're you know, not in a playoff spot, but they're
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: not at the bottom of the league like they're not,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: you know, bottom dwellers.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: There is you know, a chance that.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: They could be fighting for a wild card spot maybe,
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: so you know, like the results have improved. It would
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: seem that, as you said, the vibes the vibes seem
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: to be better. I'm sure that the players like playing
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: for Rick more than they liked playing for John Tortorella.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: It's very clear that at d end of last season,
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: whatever was going on there had turned into a disaster
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: and it was completely untenable.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: So that part's good.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: Like I said at the start, there were some interviews
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: that Tackett gave before the season started that may it
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: seem like.
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: He is like that.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Progressive new school hockey coach that you know, takes a
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: guy like Quinn Hughes and lets him, you know, do
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: whatever he's gonna do because he's that guy, and you're
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: gonna let him maximize his talent. So far, I think
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: Rick Tackett has coached this team kind of like John Tortorella,
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: minus the mean part, you know what I mean. Like
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: the player usage hasn't been that different. When Mietskov was struggling,
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: you know, Talkott was in fun of Michael Phone saying like, yeah, guy,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: like that's got to play through it, Like he's got
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: to play himself out of this. But then he's getting
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: ten eleven minutes a night, he's getting very little power playtime,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: Like you're not putting him with Zegris, Like there was
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: just a lot of choices where it's like, yeah, Mitchkov
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: doesn't look great, but also he's the most important player
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: on this team. Yes, he's one hundred percent got to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: turn into the best version of Matvey Mishkoff.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: If this is gonna work at all.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: If he doesn't, if he just turns out to be
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: like a middling guy, that's it.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Like Rebuilt didn't work, It's it's done. We didn't do
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: it right.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: He's got to be great. And I do feel like
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: sometimes you do have to give those guys treatment that
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: you wouldn't give other players, Like, Okay, yeah, I if
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Noah Kate starts struggling, you're probably gonna cut his ice
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: time down a little bit. You're not gonna give him
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: the kind of matchups that you're giving him now. You're
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: not going to give him the opportunities that you're giving
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: him now when he's playing really well. Totally fine, get that.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: Ye A guy like Meetchkoff, Like, while you don't want
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: him out on the ice hurting the team actively, I
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: think that the calculus has to be guy like meetchkof
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: Ziegris for serve before he got hurt, like, these guys
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: need to be cornerstones of this team. They have to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: be the best versions of themselves. And I think that
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: my biggest issue with Rip Tocket is that he has
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: decided that the overall goal with this team is winning
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: hockey games.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: Obviously that's important. We're not going to pretend that it's
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: not important.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Right, Obviously, winning hockey games means that mostly your guys
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: are playing well. That's probably good. However, I think that
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: that should be like the one B goal and the
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: one A goal needs to be making these players that
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: are the most important part of Danny Brier's rebuild. We
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: have to make them into the best versions of themselves.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: And I worry that with Rick Tackett that's going to
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: be secondary or even like third on the list of
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: most important things. He wants players to He wants to
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: win hockey games, he wants players to play the right way,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: and I just worry that, Like, I don't think he's
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: going let me be clear, I don't think he's going
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: to like Ruin Matvig Mitchkov. I don't think that he's
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: going to somehow turn him into a crappy hockey player.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: But I do think that if the focus.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: Is on winning games, and you have decided that since
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: you won six games with Nick Delaoie in the lineup,
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: that means you got to have Nick Delaurie and I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: obviously we win games when he's playing, so we got
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: to play a guy like that stuff.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, those kinds of choices.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: It's just like I don't know, or like, you know,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: we were winning games when Mieachkof was getting twelve minutes,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: and so maybe we cut him down a little bit
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: because you know, things were going better before. Like those
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: kinds of choices. I just think, aren't that long term
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: for this team. Yeah, And that's the kind of thing
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: that worries me, is that I worry that, like, not
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: that he's going to ruin guys, but that we're not
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: going to get the absolute best version of them that
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: we might be able to if the focus was on
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: development and not on winning.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: And so don't you think. I do think Danny Brier though,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: has that in mind. Also, I don't know why I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: think enough, I don't know. I mean, we're not there,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: we're not in the room, you know, we're not in
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: these discussions at all. But part of me has this
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: trust level already for Danny Brier based on various decisions.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Right where I do, Yeah for sure, Yeah where I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: don't think Danny brierre is gonna let that happen. I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: think what you're saying is absolutely fair. I absolutely do,
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: because it's what we're seeing. It is what we are seeing.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: But I wonder if it gets to a point we
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: don't have a crystal ball where Danny Brier says, no,
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: the development of these guys, these particular guys, this guy,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: this guy, this guy is more important than the ice time,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: is more important than any type of metric or stat
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: that we can produce that says we're gonna win games.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: So that's just my thought. I don't know what you
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: think about that.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: So, like, that's something that in the back of my
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: mind I think too, like like Breer is never gonna
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: let this happen.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: But like, this is something I've talked about with.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Charlie on the phlipod from time to time. Is like so,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: and it's specifically with regards to Vigras playing center or
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: not playing center, really right, because I do think that
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: when Danny Brier targeted Trevor Ziegras and took the chance
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: on bringing him over from an Anaheim obvious. I think
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious that, like the calculation was, Okay, maybe
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 3: we can steal ourselves a one ce, Like maybe we
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: can get super lucky here and find a guy that
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: has kind of lost the trust of the idiot coach
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: in californ for some reason.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: They don't like him.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: They're not playing him the center, but like we've seen
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: what he can do at center and it's pretty remarkable.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Maybe we can get him back there.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 3: I thought to myself going into this season, like we're
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: gonna see Trevor's nigres get every opportunity to make it
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: as a center, because that's really important. Like they got
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: him because they need a top end center and they
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: don't have one. They need him to be that guy.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: But so far this season, it seems like Danny Brier
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: is perfectly fine with Rick Tucket deciding.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Good point, Nah, he's a winger.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like if we've decided, like and it seemed
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: like that was a decision that Tuckett made like three
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: games into the season, it was like, no, we're not
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: doing Trevor' segress at center anymore. Yeah, And it's like,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: but how are we ever gonna know if he can
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: be a center. If we're not playing him at center,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: how are we ever going to know if he can
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: grow into being a top end center again, if he
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: can bring back what we saw from him in his
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: first couple of seasons in the league, if we're not
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: doing it. And it's like that is the part that
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: worries me, or it's like have have have Jones and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: Breer decided that like, yeah, you know what, winning games
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: is important. It's important for these kids to learn how
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: to win. It's important for them to learn how to,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: you know, play the right way. It's important for them
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: to be competing for playoff spots. And like, I agree
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: that all those things important are important, but I would
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: have liked to see that be the goal next season.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Season after this season.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I still expected it to be if we make the playoffs,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: that's cool, Like fun, bonus doesn't matter.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: You want development, you just we're developing these guys.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: And it's the Zegers at wing thing. Is that is
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: the one that really gets me. Or it's like, Okay,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: we're nearly a third of the way into the season
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: and Danny Breer very clearly hasn't set Rick talked it
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: down and been like, hey, Bud, we need you to
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: play this guy at center because we have to know
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: if he can do it or not. Right right, they
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: seem to be fine letting him play wing to freaking Divorak.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like no, it's not like he's a song.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: He's good at face off like that's great and all,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: but like he's not a high end talent. Like, let's
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  Speaker 3: not kid ourselves into thinking right, right, Christian Moorak is
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  Speaker 3: going to somehow turn Trevor Zegres into something like that's
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  Speaker 3: not going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I just worry that the focus on winning is going
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  Speaker 3: to stifle guys more than they would be stifled under
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  Speaker 3: different circumstances. And that's really what worries me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks. C plus from Kelly Hankel for Rick
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  Speaker 1: Tocket and it is a great way to end this discussion,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. It is always so great to talk to you. Really,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you so much for taking the time again, folks.
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  Speaker 1: She's Kelly Hankel from Broadstreet Hockey dot Com at hanks
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  Speaker 1: Over on the Twitter slash x. You're also at hanks
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  Speaker 1: over on Blue Sky as well. If I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 1: correct I am? Yes, all right, give her a follow,
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  Speaker 1: a great following again Broadstreet Hockey dot com. She's over
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  Speaker 1: at phl y every now and again with our good
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  Speaker 1: friends over there. Kelly, come back join us down the road.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to have you back on the show,
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  Speaker 1: my friend.
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  Speaker 3: We'll love to would love to go back later in
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  Speaker 3: the season and see how many things I got wrong,
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  Speaker 3: because that's my favorite.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, let's do it. I absolutely love. I love when
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  Speaker 1: we're all wrong and we can go back and say
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  Speaker 1: we are just a bunch of dopes, and then we
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  Speaker 1: can self criticize, and then it's a lot of fun.
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