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Town Meeting: Introducing Taylor Doose (Season 1 E7 “Kiss and Tell”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all in again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's you.
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  Speaker 1: I Am all in Town meeting with Suzanne French and
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  Speaker 1: Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast. All right, hey guys, welcome
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  Speaker 1: back to another episode of I'm All in Town Meeting
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  Speaker 1: with myself, Tara and Susanne. Hello. Hello, Today we're talking
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  Speaker 1: about season one, episode seven, Kiss and Tell, which aired
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  Speaker 1: November sixteenth, two thousand. I always think of this as
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  Speaker 1: the corn starch episode. Yeah, just like like I literally think.
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  Speaker 1: Our producer Emma the other day was like, oh I
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  Speaker 1: love Kiss and Tell. I'm like, is that corn stars?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a classic iconic moment, and I love that
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  Speaker 2: they called back to it in the revival, like, yes,
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  Speaker 2: he's like pay for it this time. That was I
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  Speaker 2: love that. Oh I know, I know. Who knew that
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  Speaker 2: a box of corn starch could be so iconic?
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  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of cornstarch, I have to start with saying,
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  Speaker 1: why was there so much cornstarch on display?
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  Speaker 2: It's it's so funny every time we go in the
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  Speaker 2: market because everything's different, like aisles and aisles of cat food,
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  Speaker 2: and then other times there's like aisles and aisles of
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  Speaker 2: you know, deodorant or whatever. It's like it's so random.
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  Speaker 2: They just grab whatever they can find it at the
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  Speaker 2: grocery store, I guess, and bring it over to this.
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  Speaker 1: Also the corn here's the other thing that I was
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  Speaker 1: confused about. The corn starch was in the same aisle
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  Speaker 1: as What did Lane say? Was it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh the ant spray?
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  Speaker 1: Was it ant spray?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Why are we putting corn starch with ant spray? Like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: aisle three, it's good aisle antspray? Also, how is ant
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  Speaker 1: spray a good aisle?
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  Speaker 2: Well, because any aisle that you get kissed is a
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  Speaker 2: good aisle. That's but I had to laugh when they
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  Speaker 2: said Aisle three, Like that market is so small you
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  Speaker 2: really need to number the aisles.
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  Speaker 1: No, there's like three aisles to begin with it.
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  Speaker 2: It's also like such.
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  Speaker 1: A weird if you actually look at the layout of
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  Speaker 1: the market, it's I think, like two aisles and then
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  Speaker 1: like two sideway aisles, Like it's kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's like registers, and then there's like two
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  Speaker 2: different wings.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, two different wings, and then it's I
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  Speaker 1: think it's when Luke and Laura leer in the market.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the wall behind them was not actually
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  Speaker 1: like fruit. I think it was like wallpaper. Oh really,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's wallpaper of like fruit and stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'll have to pull the screenshot. But
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  Speaker 1: I like was kind of watching it. I was like
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  Speaker 1: kind of tired last night watching and I'm like, is
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  Speaker 1: that actually like they set that all up? And then
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  Speaker 1: I think or maybe half of it is wallpaper.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna have to look. I watched this episode
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  Speaker 2: like three times because I usually I watch it just
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  Speaker 2: once quick to remind myself of what happened in the episode,
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  Speaker 2: and then I will watch detailed, like with my notes
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  Speaker 2: in front of me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I actually watched it a third time last night
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  Speaker 2: because I did the recap with Scott and Michael Winters
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  Speaker 2: and so I want to be like fresh in my mind.
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  Speaker 2: So I watched it a third time. But I totally
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  Speaker 2: did not catch that. So I'm gonna have to go
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  Speaker 2: back and look.
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  Speaker 1: At and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, But I it
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  Speaker 1: kind of looked like it.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't surprise me, like that would make sense.
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  Speaker 1: No, because imagine how much you have to set up.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but when they walked outside, because I remember
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  Speaker 1: thinking of it because they walked outside, Luke and Lorelei
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  Speaker 1: and there are like fruits or whatever outside, like right,
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  Speaker 1: and those are actually there. I mean, it's probably not real,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably fake, but you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: those are actually like physically theirs. That That's what made
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  Speaker 1: me think, like in store, was it fake?
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  Speaker 2: Well that's awesome. Okay, We're gonna have to like grab
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  Speaker 2: a screenshot of that. That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: Is it the first time we saw dosies on the apron? Oh?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's the first time we see Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I knew first time we see Taylor, and it
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  Speaker 1: was kind of funny the way he like. My first
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  Speaker 1: thought was, I don't know what it's like to first
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  Speaker 1: be introduced to Taylor, like as a new watcher. I guess. Well,
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  Speaker 1: our producers Jackie and Emma had never seen Taylor before,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm curious if one of you want to come
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  Speaker 1: on and what was your first impression of him.
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  Speaker 3: He seemed like the same Taylor that we saw that
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  Speaker 3: when we when us producers started coming onto the pod,
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  Speaker 3: we started with the later seasons and didn't go back
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  Speaker 3: to the first season, so I kind of already knew
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  Speaker 3: but like it seemed like the same.
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  Speaker 2: I think I already.
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  Speaker 3: Knew who he was, so it was a very good
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  Speaker 3: like I'm coming in, I'm coming in, want to do
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  Speaker 3: what's best for the town.
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  Speaker 2: This is what we want to do. Come on, come on.
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  Speaker 3: And you see the friction between Luke and Taylor, which
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  Speaker 3: we've seen in later later seasons too, so it's like
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  Speaker 3: it's a complicated.
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  Speaker 1: You didn't question his authority, he just kind of knew.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he comes in hot and he goes hard for
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  Speaker 3: the town and the rules, and he establishes that right
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  Speaker 3: away with the Fall decre and the little.
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  Speaker 2: Thanksgiving things that he tries to put on the counter,
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  Speaker 2: which is why.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, which, by the way, the decor in this episode
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  Speaker 1: was amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so Fall just piles of pumpkins everywhere.
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  Speaker 1: I just where do you find all that stuff? Like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I know set decorators, but like how
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  Speaker 1: long does it take to set that up and the details?
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, because the pumpkins, like if they shot this
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  Speaker 2: in summer, well.
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  Speaker 1: It's definitely fake, right, it has to be fake pumpkins.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, pumpkins lost a long time. It
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  Speaker 2: could have been real.
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  Speaker 1: You really see when Rory's like running through the town.
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  Speaker 2: That was a great shot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's so good. And at first I was like,
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  Speaker 1: they actually film her running all the way to live
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  Speaker 1: in South and I'm like, oh, there she is pulling
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  Speaker 1: up to him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that on the on the recap episode.
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  Speaker 2: How you know, both both Alexis and the cameramen were
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  Speaker 2: probably pretty tired after they did that, so hopefully, hopefully
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  Speaker 2: they didn't need too many takes to get it done.
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  Speaker 2: But that was such a great shot where she literally
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  Speaker 2: runs in a single movement all the way from the
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  Speaker 2: market to across the square to Lane's house.
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  Speaker 1: With that did she had the yellow backpack on? Again?
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  Speaker 1: She had the yellow backpack? Oh? Did she?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't even notice she She.
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  Speaker 1: Was kind of like like she was kind of like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but the way she like runs
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  Speaker 1: is just so funny to me. I know, that's it's
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  Speaker 1: just And I also love that the kiss happened so
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  Speaker 1: early in the episode because it wasn't build up like
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  Speaker 1: it just happened. Also, I would be taking aback if
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  Speaker 1: someone kissed me like that too, I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was shocking, Like I don't talking about soda
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  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he's in your face,
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  Speaker 2: kissing you. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, she did have a yellow backpack, okay, because
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  Speaker 1: I just remember the way she was like waddle running
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like that damn yellow backpack with fifty books
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  Speaker 1: in it. I will never get over the yellow backpack.
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  Speaker 2: At least she cut down from that one episode where
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  Speaker 2: she had like three bad yeah, exactly. At least she
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  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to carry all that. Did you notice in
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  Speaker 2: Luke's Diner? Okay, so I had two comments on the
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  Speaker 2: Lukes Diner scene. There was a random soda machine by
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  Speaker 2: the window, like a soda dispenser, you know, like you
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  Speaker 2: have restaurants. Don't know where that came from. We never
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  Speaker 2: saw it again.
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  Speaker 1: Like behind the counter. No, it was like.
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  Speaker 2: Where there's tables in future episodes. It's like it's like
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  Speaker 2: app off the end of the counter, but not behind
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  Speaker 2: the counter, like it's next to the window like a
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  Speaker 2: self serve.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, I didn't see That's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: And it was kind of a weird looking like little
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  Speaker 2: Dinky one. It was very weird. It was like somebody
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  Speaker 2: just found this. Was like, oh, this looks like it
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  Speaker 2: might go to a restaurant. Let's put it on the
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  Speaker 2: set of Lukes Diner.
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  Speaker 1: That's funny. I did not see that, and then did you.
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  Speaker 2: So we saw Patty, miss Patty. She's eating with some
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  Speaker 2: woman in a yellow sweater. We don't know who it was.
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  Speaker 2: My theory, I think that was east Side Tilly because
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  Speaker 2: remember we future episodes east Side Tilly. She's like the
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  Speaker 2: town gossip, but we never.
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  Speaker 1: See Sorry, I thought you meant that was someone's real name.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, who oh, oh, my gosh, oh interesting.
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  Speaker 2: That's my fan theory is that that's east Side Tilly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so curious if anyone else thinks that, because you're right,
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  Speaker 1: we don't see her. It's just always she's always talked about.
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  Speaker 2: They don't say her name. We don't really see that. Well,
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  Speaker 2: maybe we see that woman again, probably in like the
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  Speaker 2: background of a scene, but they don't identify who she is.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my theory. But Patty seems to be friends
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  Speaker 2: with her because Patty always says, oh I heard it
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  Speaker 2: from east Side Tilly and Babette.
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  Speaker 1: It's usually Bebett and Patty talking about what she Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so so interesting. It's like gossip girl.
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  Speaker 2: I know exactly exactly she's the og, So tell us,
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  Speaker 2: tell us what you think if you agree with that
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  Speaker 2: or not. I mean I could. I'm completely just making
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  Speaker 2: that up. Obviously, I don't know who she was, but
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  Speaker 2: that's my theory. I'm gonna roll with it.
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  Speaker 1: I like, at least, like now I have a visual
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  Speaker 1: if I need to refer back to, refer back to.
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  Speaker 2: We saw the clown pillow in this episode. Oh where
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  Speaker 2: was it? It was when Laurel I was going to
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  Speaker 2: look out the window to see where she was looking
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  Speaker 2: for before Rory came home. Oh, and so she goes
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  Speaker 2: to the living room window and looks out the front window,
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  Speaker 2: and the clown pillow was on that chair. That's right,
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  Speaker 2: it is normal spot under that under that window.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing I loved about this episode is Laurel's
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  Speaker 1: jacket that the collar pops red with the red purse.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't even notice the jacket. I was. I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at the purse. I didn't even notice the jacket.
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  Speaker 1: It was like I was looking at it. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I need to find a jacket like that because it's black.
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  Speaker 1: But then the collar pops open, so the inside of
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  Speaker 1: it is red, and then it's with the red bag,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, I need this. It's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was so much black, I like a pop A Colt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that red bag was super cute and so I
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  Speaker 2: was looking at that. I didn't even notice the jacket.
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  Speaker 2: I might have to.
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  Speaker 1: And it's I mean specifically, the scene that I really
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  Speaker 1: really noticed is when she's walking into the grocery store
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  Speaker 1: to see Dean and the way Dean worked a really
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  Speaker 1: long shift that day. Dean was there from before school
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  Speaker 1: until that's true.
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  Speaker 2: Because he was there that night too.
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  Speaker 1: Like in my head, I was like, he is still
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  Speaker 1: there if they're overworking this kid.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's funny. Well maybe he went to school in
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  Speaker 2: the middle well.
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  Speaker 1: Because maybe, but it was wait but what time does
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  Speaker 1: the grocery store open that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question. Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It is all one day, right, yeah I think I
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  Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, because it starts with Luke at Luke's
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  Speaker 1: diner with no.
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  Speaker 2: But her outfit changes because this is the episode where
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  Speaker 2: she's wearing. It starts out she's in that really cute
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  Speaker 2: skirt and she's not wearing underwear. Oh you're right, you're right,
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  Speaker 2: So her outfits changed, so it must be a different day.
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  Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, it's just oh, I have a
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: speaking of timelines, the timeline of well, I guess also
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  Speaker 1: Dean's really work If Rory's going to school with her
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  Speaker 1: backpack on, it's still weird that Dean's working that early.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, I thought it was interesting what time was
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  Speaker 1: it when Lourai invited Dean? When she invited him at
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: seven pm? But it was dark out sunsets.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but in the fall, I mean it's dark here
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  Speaker 2: at five o'clock.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was thinking, five o'clock. So like,
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  Speaker 1: did he just get off thirty minutes? I think, guess
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  Speaker 1: a small town, it's not that hard to move around.
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  Speaker 1: But I was just she's like seven o'clock, but then
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  Speaker 1: all the food they order and stuff within one hour,
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  Speaker 1: and also there there is no way in two thousand,
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  Speaker 1: her total for five snacks was forty one dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm pretty sure I can get that
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  Speaker 1: at Target right now for maybe thirty dollars.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was interesting because they even made a comment, but
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  Speaker 1: she made a comment about her total. That's what caught me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it costs a lot of money to rot your
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  Speaker 2: insides or something.
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  Speaker 1: It was like in the year two thousand. I don't think,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe.
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  Speaker 2: You know, because Dosees is a little market, their prices
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  Speaker 2: are higher.
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  Speaker 1: So maybe yeah, got it, import it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, that was my random little.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. And again we're still tracking that piano. The piano
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  Speaker 2: was still there, so I don't know they're going to
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  Speaker 2: open that wall up. It's gotta be soon. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize actually that it made it this this many episodes,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm anticipating anytime now that's going to be open
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  Speaker 2: to the front door.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing I saw and I texted our group
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  Speaker 1: text last night, it's at twenty six fifty seven on
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  Speaker 1: Rory's wall. There is the most terrifying mask or it's
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  Speaker 1: like a mask with a party hat. I have no idea,
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  Speaker 1: but I could not pay attention to the scene.
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  Speaker 2: It was scary. Yeah, and I didn't even notice it
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  Speaker 2: until you pointed it out. I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 2: that thing is horrible. I think I woke up in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the night. That would scare the crap
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  Speaker 2: out of me.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and then I was trying to think, is it
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  Speaker 1: a character that like they tried to paint like I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to figure out what it's from, and truly
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  Speaker 1: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't look familiar to me at all. It
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  Speaker 2: kind of reminded me so for those of you that
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  Speaker 2: are my age that remember mister Rogers.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I remember mister Rogers.
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  Speaker 2: And there was like the little the train would go
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  Speaker 2: into that other little make believe town and there was
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Lady Elaine, remember her. She had Oh my gosh, the
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  Speaker 2: giant chin. It reminded me of that. I don't think
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: that's what it was supposed to be, like, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't look at no, I get to be that,
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  Speaker 2: but it was kind of kind of scary looking like that,
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  Speaker 2: Like she was a scary looking character. And yeah, this
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  Speaker 2: thing on the wall was like.
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  Speaker 1: It was just so random, which maybe it was like
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  Speaker 1: artwork that Rory did as a kid, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was an interesting choice for sure. On the part
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  Speaker 2: of the set.
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  Speaker 1: Between this episode and the last one, there was just
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: a lot of crap in the house, a lot of
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: stuff and I think I've noted, like I really want
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: to know the set decorated. They just throw anything they
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  Speaker 1: can find into these early Yeah, because I think and
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is just me paying attention now, but I
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  Speaker 1: think compared to later seasons, there's a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 1: in the background of these.
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  Speaker 2: I noticed that on the last episode when they were
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: in the kitchen for Rory's birthday party in Suki, like
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  Speaker 2: making the food, and you could see on the on
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  Speaker 2: the wall next to bedroom door, there's like a cabinet
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  Speaker 2: that's just like got random. It's like piles of paper
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  Speaker 2: and stuff, like just random.
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  Speaker 1: But even like even like the way when she's sitting
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  Speaker 1: on the floor of the fridge and all the stuff
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  Speaker 1: is out, like why were half the cans down the hallway,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like how did it get
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: like perfectly standing up? It was just kind of like
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: they threw anything and everything, which I don't mind. It's
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: kind of funny, but.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of stuff. Yeah, we when we did
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  Speaker 2: the recap, we were talking about some of the unique
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: camera angles, and that was one of them, that refrigerator
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: scene where they they're showing the food is all spread
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  Speaker 2: all over the floor like the refrigerator contents, and the
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  Speaker 2: camera's like looking down on them and kind of panning
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  Speaker 2: around what Laurela has in her.
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  Speaker 1: Fridge, which is also confusing because she doesn't like all.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: I would have thought it would be a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: leftover like Chinese takeout, Like she doesn't look yea, so
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: all those cans and whatnot. I'm like, why does she
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: have stuff? Shouldn't use it?
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: She's not gonna have a ton of like fresh now
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: in there. But it was it was still it was
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: a funny scene.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: The other thing, I mean, should we jump over to
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Dean getting invited to or did you have anything else
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: before we jump into.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Let's yeah, let's move on to the real meat of
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: the episode, the whole awkwardness.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I think. I think what's interesting is Lorala I jumps
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: back and forth between mom and girlfriend because I was like,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: you're sad that your daughter didn't tell you about the kiss,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: but now you're inviting him over without Rory's permission to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: hang out, and you're gonna be I was like, yeah,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: how did we get here? Which I mean is just
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Laura being Laura.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I but it was weird and if that if my
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: mom had done that, I would have reacted the same
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: way that I thought. She was completely justified in her
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: horror that her mother had done this. And then and
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: then poor Rory like she felt stuck because now it's
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: like she likes him, also looks weird, so we can't
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: uninvite him, so we have to have him over. But
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: it looks weird that my mom is the one that
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: invited him over, and you know, yeah, it just was weird.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And like she said, she made the comment about, you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: in this country dates like people go on dates by themselves,
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, yeah, it was just it was weird.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: And I felt bad for her because she already was
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: confused about how does she feel, and you know, she
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: didn't want Laurel to meet him, and so she was
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: kind of already like trying to sort everything out in
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: her head and then Laurla I like totally forced her
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: hand by oh yeah, he's coming over.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Clearly within the one hour, she called Suki the gossip
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: because she didn't ask Suki for dessert. Suki route dessert
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: to Spy. Yeah, so in the process of setting up
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: ordering food, setting everything up, she called Suki be like
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: guess what.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Right, and Suki just created a dessert out of thin air.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was something she just brought from the inn
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: or some.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Probably Yeah, yeah, but it was kind of funny that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: scene with the pizza guy and then suddenly like Suki's
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: slittering the pizza. Yeah, uh, the bone I have to
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: pick with this is the way they are watching the movie,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: because in no way if someone invited me to a
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: movie night, am I sitting on the floor with no
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: nothing to support my back, just sitting like a bunch
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: of first graders this cross Apple Sauce watching Willie Walka
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: on a date on.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: A date, Yeah, it was. It was weird because she
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: tells him to put the pizza on the coffee table,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and so you think, Okay, they're gonna sit on the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: couch and watch it.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: He sat there for two minutes.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: They're all on the floor. Yeah it's yeah.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: It literally looked like a bunch of first graders sitting
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: chriss cross Apple Sauce in line. I was like what
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: and then when he and then when he says like, oh,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: do you need something to support your back? But what
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: are you leaning the pillow against? Like there's nothing to
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: lean against? Like she like the way he supported her.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, right, I was watching that because I
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: watched him put the pillow behind her. But it's just
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like the air ball behind her and she starts to like,
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: lean back, and then they cut to the next scene. Okay,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: they're not even gonna show that she can't lean back
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: because there's nothing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I thought maybe she would lean on the end of
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: the couch. Oh he was, he was more on that.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I was literally like this, I don't know, just that
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: same I'm like, could you put them on the couch?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Why the floor?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why they started on the couch
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: and just didn't stay on the couch. There had to
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: have been some reason, but it was it was.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Was there not enough room? Pulled a chair that Emily
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: was sitting on for two episodes exactly through the chair
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: across the room, which, by the way, so now we
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: know there's a TV. There was there a TV there
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: in previous episodes.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: There might have been. There was the there was the
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: kitchen TV that we saw for a split second in
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: the other episodeisode. Yeah, but I can't remember.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing a TV se a TV or not. Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: unless they moved it for like the party.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also I did notice during the last episode,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: the birthday party episode, that there was a TV in
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Lorelei's bedroom. It had like clothes and stuff piled on it.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: But I don't another episode that just had a bunch
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: of crap. That that room anxiety.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, her with the clothes everywhere. I know he wasn't made.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I really like the scene with
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Dean there. He's just a little cocky. I thought so too.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to Laurel.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I yeah, I mean, he definitely kind of had an
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: edge to him. You definitely could tell he had had
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: a girlfriend or two before, like this was not new
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: territory for him. But yeah, the conversation I thought was interesting.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: The whole the whole night was just just kind of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: awkward and weird. And yeah, it's in the room and
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: she's out of the room, and yeah, it was weird.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And then when she tells her to suddenly switch gears
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: again to mom, Rory goes back into the kitchen to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: be like where are you and she's like, I need
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: to switch gears or whatever. Yeah, I was like, you
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: got I think that's why. And maybe this establishes like
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: how Laura I we don't know if she's a mom
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: or a friend. And Rory feels the same way because
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: if I were in that situation, like my mom switching
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: from girlfriend to mom in the same night, would just
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: confuse me. Yeah, so yeah, it's like, no wonder she
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: felt weird telling her mom that she got kissed, but
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: once you open the can of worms and she's fine,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: it's like girl talk.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just it's very confusing. But I guess that's
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: also a stable shame that, like Laurel I is still
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: a kid, kind of raising a kid.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And it's it's a transitional period in Rory's
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: life too, right, Like she's moving, she's starting to be
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: interested in dating and you know, all that kind of stuff.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: So it's it's definitely a transition. And so Laurel I
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: is trying to figure out you know, Rory is one
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of those kids that you know, they're born and they
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: just raised themselves, Like she didn't need a lot of
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: parenting when she was little, and now that she's starting
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: to move into these more adult situations, you know, she
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: needs a little guidance. And so now Laurela is having
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: to transition herself from the friend to the mother. But
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: then by the end of the episode, she's back into
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: the friend mode again, like, Okay, tell me about the
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: klip I was it in And yeah, so it's just
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: kind of setting up, you know that whole. It's just
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: kind of a conflict that goes throughout the next couple
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of years.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: So it's yeah, until the end, even at the very
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: end about in the revival about the book, I feel
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: like we even see it there where it's like suddenly
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: she's like, you can't talk about my life like this
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: is you know, it's it's an ongoing theme and it's
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: just interesting to now, yeah, because I mean when I
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: watched Gilmore Girls originally before this podcast, I didn't really
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: talk to anyone about the details about it, you know,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like I don't say it with my friends and break
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it down considering it's also not on TV right now,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it's right, you know. So it's interesting to have these
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: conversations because I watch it knowing but actually like talking
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: it out. I'm like, oh, you really noticed this from
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: very early on, and Amy and Dan really just continued
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: these themes, which is really cool. Yeah, And also how
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: do you keep track of it all? That's what's crazy
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to me.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I think about that too, because they
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: didn't write every single episode like they did bring other writers,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and I think actually this episode was not written by them,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: but especially as it goes through into the later seasons,
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Like somebody comes in to write an episode, how do you.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know that shows have bibles where they
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: write down, like all the details of the storylines. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: but still it just seems like you have to remember,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: like what your character's arc was from the beginning and
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: then write something that is I'm sure.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Amy and Dan being as involved as they were. Specifically Amy,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there was like she would consult a lot
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: of even if she was writing, and I'm sure she
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: would consult a lot of the scripts like yeah, remember
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: when this happens, and we should bring that back or
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe not write it word for word, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I'm sure involved.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: In Oh yeah, I'm sure she gave specific directions like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: here's what's going to happen in this episode. Yeah, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: then the writer would just you know, make that happen.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, over overall, I think these episodes
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: are just so special, like you kind of I think
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: it's the reason why we fell in love with Gilmore Girls,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and these are the these are the episodes that I like.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Rory, Oh yeah, I know, the first season of Gilmour
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: is great, Like Rory, you're really on her side, like you,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: you really can. She seems so relatable for me. During
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the Chiltern years was when she was the most relatable.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: And then when she graduates and goes to Yale and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: they're like, Emily really got her claws into her. That's
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: when she stops kind of being relatable for me. But
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I love the children years, like it's my favorite part
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: of me too.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It's also just like, I don't know, watching someone grow
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: through those years is so fun and innocent and like ya,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: she messes up, Oh well, you know, yeah, in high
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: school doesn't really matter.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: And like the stakes aren't as hot later years.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: I did have a conversation with someone though about the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Revival and how they were like, oh, well, like Hush
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: just couldn't figure her life out, And I'm like, yeah,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: but if you think about it, like I'm in my
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: thirties and I have some friends who are doing great
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: in their career and some who unfortunately in the entertainment
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: industry or some industries right now, there's a lot of
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: layoffs and they're lost. And I was like, in this
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: moment in my life, I actually realized that the Revival
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: is really relatable and people are lost, so it's just
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it's just interesting at different points in your life when
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you see it. I think if I were like in
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: my early twenties and saw the Revival, I'd be like
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: or like I'd be like, oh my god, what is
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: she doing with her life? Like she can't find a job.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And then you're like sitting in it and I'm watching
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: my friends look for jobs and this and that it's
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: so hard, and I'm like, nope, it's real.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's it was pretty realistic, you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: especially at that time period where I think we've talked
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: about this before, where journalism was going digital and getting
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: away from like print media and you know, newspapers are
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: going out of business and things, and it just was
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: in the time for her to be coming in. But yeah,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: that's just kind of the state of affairs now, is
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: that it's it's hard for you know, I'm looking like
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: my own son is twenty one. He's in his fourth
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: year of college, and he doesn't know what he wants
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: to do. Like he's should I go to grad school?
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Should I try to get a job? Like he doesn't
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: he doesn't know at all. When I was a senior
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: in college, I knew exactly what I was going to do,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: like I had everything planned out. But yeah, that's just
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: I just have a very different personality.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Then I'm the same. I was the same way. I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: actually had my a job when I was a senior
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: in college, so like it was a little different. And
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: I remember like, as I had that job my senior year,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: some people were just starting to look at internships and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, I did that two years ago. But yeah,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, and specifically with I started my career in radio,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: radio is not the same as it was. So it's
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: it's and the same thing with the newspaper world. For Rory,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: it's like it evolves and it changes. And now with
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: like AI, there's so much it's just so interesting. And
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I definitely I think looking back at this and started
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to bring it back, it's looking at these earlier seasons,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I realized that, like I think I was too hard
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: on Rory in the later years. I think I'm like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: I kind of feel for her now, just like thinking
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: big picture, like because sometimes you watch these shows and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you're so tunnel vision of like what's happening in this moment,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: and then you kind of have to look in the
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: real world and be like people are kind of going
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: through that, you know.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, and it's it can be hard when
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you have you know, Rory has a plan. She's going
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: to go to Harvard, she's going to be a journalism
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: major journalist whatever, or a writer, and so you you're
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: on this track, in this path, but then the world
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: changes in the background and kind of pulls the rug
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: out from under you, and you're like, okay, what now.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: So I think when we got to the revival, we
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: all would have liked to have seen Rory be at
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: her full potential, Like, you know, she's got a Pulitzer
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and she's you know, won all these awards and she's
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: gotten she's famous for her writing, and but that didn't
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: happen for her, and so yeah, that was disappointing, But
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: it was also that it was also just life. I mean,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: that happens.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think I guess I'll just leave it on this.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think that we would have watched a revival
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: differently if the revival came out post pandemic. I feel
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: like the pandemic really changed a lot in people's lives,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and and so I just wonder if we would have
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: looked at it and looked at Rory's life as not
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a mess post pandemic and more of Yeah, things aren't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: on her side, Yeah, I.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Mean because we all came out of the pandemic like
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: as a mess. I mean, yeah, it's that's a good question.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I hadn't Actually, I'm going to have to give us, you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Know, because you think of a lot of people who
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: had lost their jobs in the pandemic and and this,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't matter what career it was, it's there's
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: a lot that changed. And so I wonder if we
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: would have given Rory a little bit more sympathy if
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: it's just an interesting guy thought of it as a
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: risk speaking.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's a good question because the post pandemic
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: is much more like the gig economy, and you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: people just are taking what they can and and yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: that's a good question. Yeah, that's a good point either way.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I still love the show, and I love every character
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I know exactly.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I love every season. Even though some seasons are rougher
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: than others, I still love them all, Like, I mean,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: even the episodes.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even the episodes that like we didn't like
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: recapping with Scott and Daniel and Amy, like they weren't
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: bad episodes. It just wasn't our favorite, right right, They're
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: still really good. It's filly good TV.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's still completely watchable. Even if there were
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: some that were like, oh, that storyline was a little boring,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: like yeah, you know, I didn't really enjoy that, but
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: it's not. It's still watchable. I mean, yeah, still a
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: good week. Yeah, forty five minutes.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Well, anyway, the next episode is going to
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: be season one episode eight, Love and War and Snow.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, this is a good one too. I like this one.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So it's time to bring our town hall meeting to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: a close. Thank you all for attending and meeting adjourn.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: Dot Hey, everybody, and altoget.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at I Am all In podcast
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and email us at Gilmore at iHeartRadio dot com.