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Patriots Unfiltered 2/1: Tom Brady Retirement Reaction, Josh McDaniels & Dave Ziegler Departure, Mac Jones to Pro Bowl · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. It's a big day, so much to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. And I mean, we had the games this
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  Speaker 1: weekend which were fun to watch, and but I think
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  Speaker 1: we have to jump right in with the announcement by
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  Speaker 1: Brady on his Instagram today that he's retiring. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's news. Even though Schefter told us it was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen over the weekend, it's official now. But man,
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  Speaker 1: Patriots Nation is in an uproar in the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he didn't mention the Patriots New England, the crafts Bill
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  Speaker 1: Belichick and I can understand that. I can understand why
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  Speaker 1: people are like, hey, what's going on. I just want
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  Speaker 1: to wait a minute, you know, I think something's coming,
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  Speaker 1: But I can't imagine that he would, you know, be
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  Speaker 1: so petty as to do that on purpose. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like I don't get them right. You know, there's got
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  Speaker 1: to be something to that. And I could be wrong.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't look good. I could be It doesn't doesn't
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  Speaker 1: look good. It doesn't look good right now, you're right,
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  Speaker 1: But it's not gonna look good after you don't know that,
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  Speaker 1: because it's gonna look like whatever you did after whatever
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  Speaker 1: he does after the fact, is going to look like
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to make up for the mistake that he
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  Speaker 1: made by not including them in this. Let's wait to
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  Speaker 1: see if in what it is to make, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's assume that he does some big extravag ends,
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  Speaker 1: or there's a parade, there's all kinds of nonsense. Whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it's still would it have killed him to put in
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  Speaker 1: a line and say, hey, thanks to everybody in New
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  Speaker 1: England for my twenty years there. It doesn't sound like
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  Speaker 1: it would. I mean, but it seems a little. It
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  Speaker 1: is a little bizarre. It's weird. It's weird, it's odd,
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  Speaker 1: it is there's no I'm not one of those fans
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  Speaker 1: that generally gets, you know, affected by these kinds of things.
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  Speaker 1: But even if he does what you think, and I
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  Speaker 1: agree with you one hundred percent, for we talked about
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  Speaker 1: this already off the off air, I think something else
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  Speaker 1: is coming. But I don't understand why he couldn't have
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  Speaker 1: included the patriots in that nine page yea opus um
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  Speaker 1: and still done whatever he plans to do right separate
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  Speaker 1: for the pagriot Like what what what harm would that
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  Speaker 1: have been? Oh? Now I can't you know, go up
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  Speaker 1: and have a press conference with Robert Kraft introducing me
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  Speaker 1: and give me a red jacket A probably writing the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I'm just spitballing him. Yeah no, right,
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  Speaker 1: so you know it does seem odd yeah, yeah, And
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  Speaker 1: that's and he's usually pretty conscious of these things, like
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  Speaker 1: I mean, they're pretty social media exactly. It just seems
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  Speaker 1: like an omission. And when I first started reading it,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize there were like twelve different They kept
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  Speaker 1: going on Twitter like um, and so first I was like, like,
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  Speaker 1: I retweeted one, not realizing there was about twenty seven
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  Speaker 1: the panels I was when I saw the first one,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, well, he didn't really mention it. And
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  Speaker 1: then you start going through and it'sycle the Bucks okay,
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  Speaker 1: and then all the Bucks coach out, and then Alex
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  Speaker 1: and then his family. You know, I really started going
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  Speaker 1: down the list like a little bit. Didn't Michigan get
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd car Did he get to thank you? Probably not him.
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  Speaker 1: I guess maybe something else is coming. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the scuttle butte ridiculous. There is a theory out there,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I'll just throw it out there that
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots or somebody in the Patriots who knew he
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  Speaker 1: was going to retire is or are the ones who
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  Speaker 1: leaked it? And he's pissed. Wow, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: see that. I don't know. He still seems so like
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  Speaker 1: he would just continue to do what he does right
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  Speaker 1: and not. You know, it's right. He never got into
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  Speaker 1: the weeks, got into the dirt and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know about that. What do you mean? But
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  Speaker 1: he's always been above the phrase, not behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 1: He hasn't been no no, but he's publicly Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 1: got a very well crafted public. Yes, right, Yeah, But
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  Speaker 1: I don't see the whole Patriots leaking the retirement. That's
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  Speaker 1: the only reason I I can think of where he's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna leave them out for now.
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  Speaker 1: That it's odd And I would love to sit here
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  Speaker 1: and tell everybody they're being children and childish, but I don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's odd no matter what. Yeah, it doesn't bug
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  Speaker 1: me because you know, I had no personal, real, real
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  Speaker 1: personal connection to Tom Brady. He's a player for the
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  Speaker 1: team that I rooted for a hundred years and he
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  Speaker 1: won more than anybody else. Like I, I just thought
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  Speaker 1: it was strange, and I still think it's strange. Regardless
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  Speaker 1: of what happens from here on in exactly will think
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  Speaker 1: it's strange. I think it was strange, just that that
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  Speaker 1: it came out to be like no on the Chefter
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  Speaker 1: reports Saturday, and then three days later he's got like
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  Speaker 1: a Twitter last night. Last night he said he was
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  Speaker 1: still calling things, Yeah, twell you know what eight eight
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  Speaker 1: ten hours later he says, yeah, I have a well
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  Speaker 1: crafted US saying why why I'm stepping away? I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was weird. We all knew he was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we all knew that that chef, Like if you into
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  Speaker 1: the Jim Great thing, you'd think, well, he's still got
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  Speaker 1: a few more weeks of thinking about this. But then
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  Speaker 1: the very next day he has this opus on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: So that was weird too. You know what's funny is
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  Speaker 1: Friday night, Jason lackinfora he broke mapped out the whole thing, yea,
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  Speaker 1: of the timeline of the retirement and how it was
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  Speaker 1: was gonna like no one even remembers that he was
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  Speaker 1: kind of first with it, right. Everybody credited Darlington and
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  Speaker 1: Schefter on Saturday. So like, that's that's why I don't
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  Speaker 1: really think it was the pay. It was out there
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  Speaker 1: and I never once for a second thought it wasn't true,
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  Speaker 1: Like there was a lot of pushback to ESPN, because
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  Speaker 1: that's what you do, right, you make fun of ESPN.
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  Speaker 1: I never once thought for a second that that wasn't true. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it'd be too bold for Schefter to come
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  Speaker 1: out that definitively unless he knew yeah, you know, unflinching
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  Speaker 1: too right afterwards. Yeah, but this is how things go
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  Speaker 1: with I mean, and it was this plan out. That's
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  Speaker 1: why it's Yeah, so something else. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: else we can say about this other than I can
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  Speaker 1: underst you know, for me, I can understand why people
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  Speaker 1: are like, what that? What the hell? Excuse me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: still a little surprised, what the hell? But I do
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  Speaker 1: think it will it will become clear in short order. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, bigger picture, I'm just surprised. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's still at the top of his game yet
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  Speaker 1: an MVP type season. Um, you know, I just I
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  Speaker 1: thought he'd have another year or two in him. And
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  Speaker 1: I think he always wondered will he go out on
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  Speaker 1: his own terms, or will it be an injury or
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  Speaker 1: he's starting to really backslide, And it's just not happening anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So he went out when he still had some football
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  Speaker 1: in it. I think he realized, you know, because he
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  Speaker 1: always said I don't want to suck. Yeah, I think
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  Speaker 1: he realized waiting until I suck is going to take
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  Speaker 1: too long, so I just gotta end it. Okay. So
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. I would rather talk about stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that if we're going to continue to talk about
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  Speaker 1: Brady yeah, rather than well, we're gonna get into the game.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be a butt hurt that he didn't say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I thank you guys. Um, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: mean you should like it's unbelievable that the Twitter reaction
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  Speaker 1: is dulous. It was immediate, and by im mediate, like fans,
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  Speaker 1: I get it. Fans are emotional, you got that connection.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, fans. That's why we're fans. You're fanatical,
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  Speaker 1: right the mediate people? Oh, where's my I can't believe,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm shouted that he wouldn't think no mention if
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  Speaker 1: Fox were like unbelievable, the media and not everybody, but
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, yeah, a lot of people. Yeah. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I like your your you know sort of theory is
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  Speaker 1: like why now? And I know it's on the service
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  Speaker 1: sounds silly. He's gonna be forty five and in August, like,
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  Speaker 1: well why now? Um, do you think that it's like
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  Speaker 1: an indication that he sees the writing on the wall
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  Speaker 1: in Tampa and that he doesn't think he'll be able
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  Speaker 1: to compete next year. I think that was part of it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a lot of factors. Yeah, like that,
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  Speaker 1: that was one of them, Like that it was gonna
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  Speaker 1: start getting to the point where it was in twenty
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  Speaker 1: nineteen here where he was last. I'm gonna keep playing.
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  Speaker 1: I want to keep winning. Yeah, you know, I think
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  Speaker 1: based on the year he had, He's crazy if he
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  Speaker 1: thinks that way. Based on the year he just had,
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  Speaker 1: there's no question in my mind, if he returned to
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  Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Box, they would be a contender in
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  Speaker 1: the NFC. But what if there's a lot of other
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  Speaker 1: nonsense that he doesn't want to put up with. Oh
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  Speaker 1: that's different. I'm talking about being able to compete for
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  Speaker 1: a title. Yeah, part of it too. I mean, I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when he left here, it was probably invigorating
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  Speaker 1: to go to a new place and it's all new,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously they had a lot of good players. But
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  Speaker 1: I think as you stay in a place longer, it
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  Speaker 1: becomes a grind and a lot of teams, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: how long can you maintain it? But I mean you
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  Speaker 1: gotta agree with Paul, like they would be right in
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  Speaker 1: the mix of it. You look at what New Orleans
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  Speaker 1: is doing, Carolina Atlanta. I mean, they would still have
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  Speaker 1: the division if they if they wanted it, even you know,
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  Speaker 1: even if they're not able to retain everybody. But I
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  Speaker 1: just think maybe he's looking at it like do I
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  Speaker 1: have another full season? Can I still play? Yes? But
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  Speaker 1: do I have the mental toughness to not toughness. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say that to say that he's not
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  Speaker 1: mentally because he's of course, but it does to go
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  Speaker 1: through the whole ups and downs, the challenges, the injuries,
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  Speaker 1: the you know, guys coming and going. We know there
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  Speaker 1: was drama down there this year too, but just everything
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  Speaker 1: that goes into an I mean, he also did mention
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  Speaker 1: when was it was it postgame or sometimes since the
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  Speaker 1: last game that he played. When he was quoted, he
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  Speaker 1: mentioned something about his family and commitments to his family,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, maybe he signed a two year deal
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  Speaker 1: with Tampa, right yea, So maybe the agreement was with
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  Speaker 1: Gazelle was like, okay, you played through this contract and
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  Speaker 1: that is it, Tom, you owe us? After all, he
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  Speaker 1: had another year in his contract, he said, one more
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  Speaker 1: he had he signed a two year deal after he
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  Speaker 1: went to Tampa for one year. Oh yeah, so he
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  Speaker 1: had Okay, well he had one year that he signed
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  Speaker 1: the original one year, twenty five million dollars contract. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then after last year he signed a two year deal
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  Speaker 1: to stay. Okay, okay, okay, I think it was after
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  Speaker 1: last year, but he had another year on his contract.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he's owed fifteen million. Both thought that that
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  Speaker 1: had something to do with right, you know why pushback
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday? Yeah, because he's owed fifteen million or something
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  Speaker 1: by the fourth Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, So
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  Speaker 1: I think there's some different things along those lines. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean there's a million things, like we know of
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  Speaker 1: TB twelve and we knew this no new Brady, but
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  Speaker 1: there could be a million other business opportunities that he
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  Speaker 1: has in front of him that he can't do if
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  Speaker 1: he's playing football. Yeah, so this it's all in place.
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  Speaker 1: It could be a million things. Why Now do you
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  Speaker 1: think Gronkos too? Now? Yeah, well I think I think
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  Speaker 1: I think yeah, yeah, because I think he only came
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  Speaker 1: back because he I was playing with Tom. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: again my quarterback. He looked like old Gronk this year
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean he was really I mean
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  Speaker 1: sometimes yeah, yeah, yeah, sometimes I think he looked like
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  Speaker 1: a good tight end. Again, I don't think you looked
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  Speaker 1: like not not like Hunter Henry or anything. Yeah. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's so, that's ready, And we'll take emails and
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  Speaker 1: calls and if people want to talk about that, we
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  Speaker 1: will certainly talk about it. But I also want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about the games that you know, uh Josh Lee
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  Speaker 1: right yeah. By the way, yeah, and this is why
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  Speaker 1: I'll get back to our our meeting that we have
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  Speaker 1: every Tuesday. I think this is an underrated resource and
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  Speaker 1: we need to do more, not less. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: Josh McDaniel's going to be the head coach of the
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  Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. I was wrong. I was wrong, But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and Paul and I were talking about it. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a good opportunity for him. And obviously with Dave's
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  Speaker 1: Eagler being there, he's got you know, a shorthand with him.
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  Speaker 1: I had a laugh though in his press conference, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I was very selective. Blah blah blah. You know, Las
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  Speaker 1: Vegas is the right place, come on, but new stadium,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: it's a you know, built in fan base. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I I can make a case for the Raiders over
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  Speaker 1: a lot and I know the Raiders have some bagage
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of that connected probably to Al Davis
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  Speaker 1: and you know. But I think currently the situation, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's good for him. He's got some pieces in
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  Speaker 1: place to use. Um, you know, just interesting to hop
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  Speaker 1: go from like Brady to Cam to Mac this year
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  Speaker 1: as a rook and now he's going to go to
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  Speaker 1: a new veteran quarterback and you don't have to kind
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  Speaker 1: of teach him the system. So I wonder how David
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  Speaker 1: car is going to do with all that. But but
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a good move for him and the Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: It's wide open now what I mean. I said to
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  Speaker 1: Paul this morning. It kind of feels like Belichick's left
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  Speaker 1: standing alone here right now. And there's been a considerable
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  Speaker 1: emigration from the Patriots over the last four years. So
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: do guys come back to old Guys who are free
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  Speaker 1: now come back that left over the last few years
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  Speaker 1: and now looking for a job. Or or do we
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: see guys, younger guys DeMarcus Covington, Mick Lombardi, younger coaches
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  Speaker 1: who have been here for a little bit today ascend. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that's just that's that's been the way Bill
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  Speaker 1: likes to do it is bring these guys up, haven't
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  Speaker 1: touch a lot of things, and then they're ready for
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  Speaker 1: a title. But at this point in Bill's career, I
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  Speaker 1: think he needs some experienced help. Yeah, you know, and
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: not Matt Patricia as offensive at least on one side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, because right now it feels like it's
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: it's all on him both sides of the ball. And
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, we know what we need from the offense
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  Speaker 1: and the defense is a rebuild. I mean I think
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  Speaker 1: they need another another veteran coach. And I mean I
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: know Andy was thrown it out there if Matt Patricia
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  Speaker 1: being the defense or offensive coordinator, but you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: an experienced coach, so I mean, I think he'll probably
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  Speaker 1: stay in that role. But I think you could use
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  Speaker 1: another guy like that, somebody who you can say, like
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  Speaker 1: you Couba Josh, you got the offense for the most part.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I do it with both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Could you get a defensive and an offensive guy and
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  Speaker 1: you know, let Bill kind of get back to overseeing everything. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the question that I would have is how many of
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  Speaker 1: these veteran experienced coaches would want to come here absolutely
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  Speaker 1: at this point, like I mean, you know, like that
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  Speaker 1: Jerry Shoplinsky's of the World, the Chattow Show, whoever it is.
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  Speaker 1: But they might be looking at it like, well, how
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  Speaker 1: long much longer does Bill really have? And you know,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: you know how great a quarterback is Mac Jones, And
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: look at that defense. There's a lot of work that
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  Speaker 1: needs to be done talent wise, I mean, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of turnover. There's that's a you're gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: relatively young personnel staff because Ziggler's gone, and there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of other guy I mean, there are guys
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  Speaker 1: who've been here for a while, but not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of them. No, I mean when you look through this
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  Speaker 1: media guy and you see who's in the scouting department,
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  Speaker 1: so a lot of pretty young guys who it is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean guys like Mac Row, Brian Smith,
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  Speaker 1: Steve Cargile. Those are guys who you could see ascending
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  Speaker 1: to take where over where Ziegler was, but like even
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: when Ziegler took over for um Casio, you were looking
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: at like that's a name that not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Patriots fans knew before Cassario left. You know, Cassario had
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  Speaker 1: been here for a long time, had done a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things. And the reason he's here is because look
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: at all the people that left in personnel, starting with
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: John Robinson, right, and and people like that. I mean
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of brain drain and personnel as well. Yeah,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's and you left. I mean there's
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys going back to Jason Light, go
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: back to Paoli and Thomas Dimitroz right, twenty yeah, Quinns,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Austin Fort Robinson. Yeah, now you know this latest uh
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Jason Light, if you want to go way back,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I mean literally, I mean it's a dozen guys, yeah,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: but it's it's been turnover in that department. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: And then I know some speculation of Bill O'Brien maybe,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: but you know, if it's not Bill O'Brien, I mean,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: are you changing the offense a little bit? Are you
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: bringing somebody in that, you know, to keep content continuity
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: with Mac you know, I mean that might be the
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: case of promoting from within, or do you bring in
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: somebody completely new who is you know, maybe gonna change
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: your offense a little bit. But you know, and we
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: talk about it like, you know, the offense like it's
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: some like secret sauce, the KFC recipe or the Coca
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Cola rest. It's offense. It's football, Okay. So if you
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: bring in an Adam Gasee or somebody like that from
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: the outside, and you know, you hand him the playbook,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: it's not like, you know, it's Greek to him. Yeah,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not like you can't continue what Mac
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: has learned. He doesn't necessarily have to start over. You know. Yeah,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: any new offensive corder you're gonna bring their own things.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I just, you know, I wonder the just the continuity
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: of Belichick and wanting what he wants with from within
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: the playbook and how do you I mean, it was
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: a question I was, you know, kind of curious about
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: when they had um last year the quarter back coaching
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: went to Arizona Judge Fish. Yeah, you know, how does
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: a coach come in and not only learn the system
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: in an offseason, but then be able to teach it
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: as well. It's just a challenging thing. So I'm not
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: overly like, oh no, the sky is falling with mac
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Jones in the offense. I think it could be a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: good thing. And like you said, offenses offense, he's played
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: for offensive coordinators before he'll be able to do it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: H And I am interested to see, you know, how
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: things switch a little bit, how things change, how somebody
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: else maybe looks at this personnel and tries to employ
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it perhaps a little bit differently. Yeah. I mean, anytime
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: you you move on from an a coordinator, you're gonna
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: want to switch up some things. You know. Josh is
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: now the competition. He knows our playbook inside and out,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and we play the raids by the way, right, you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So it's not like you're gonna want to like not
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: switch things up, right, you know? Now? Have we heard
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and all I'm sorry, Oh, I'm just gonna just gonna
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: add to that. Have we heard at all any speculation
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: as to any coaches on this staff who are going
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: with Josh, any personnel people speculation, but nobody knows. I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: don't even really hurt speculation, but I would expect it
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to be somebody. Yeah, and be almost impossible not to
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: bring or he taps some of those older coaches, you know,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the Joe Judges of the world. The flores Is as
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: special teams defensive coordinator, those kind of things. Does that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: put the Raiders in play for those guys? Yeah, I
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: mean flores is now a candidate down in uh New
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Orleans and Houston and Houston interview with Houston yesterday and
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: supposedly New Orleans today. If I were Flora's if I
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: don't get a head coaching job, I would sit it out. Yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: because it's pretty clear that he's still a pretty hot commodity. Yeah.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So so that's Josh. We'll hear more about what's going
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: on and how that affects the Patriots in the coming weeks.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Um the game. So it's Cincinnati and the Wrong amazing. Yeah.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: I was about to turn it off with Kansas City
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: because it just looked like Kansas City was going to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: roll on man at that one stand at the at
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the at the end of the half, that guy like
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: just turn it. I was joking, but I was kind
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: of like your speech. I was ready to just like
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go cook something at him. Need to be
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: glued to it every second now, um, but it just
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: seemed like the game changed on that in that goal
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: line play at the end of the first half. Yeah, totally.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: And for some reason, Patrick, I just kept the Chiefs
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: to kick into gear and have a three play drive
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: where they just go right through him, like buttah. I
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: think I think Mahomes forgot that he can run in
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the second half, like just just run, yeah, just run,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: use your legs, you know. I just think he I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't have any explanation, but it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: as bad as I've ever seen him play in the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: second half. And I can never ever recall a game
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that he was singularly responsible for the Chiefs losing. Until Sunday. Yeah,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I thought I'd like to blame it on the fiance.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I thought he had all kinds of open receivers that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: he just wild It was wildly inaccurate, throwing the ball
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to the flats, to the backs, to the little hitch routes,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: the one in overtime that he threw right to Eli Apple.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that maybe that maybe that was
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a miscommunication or something, but judging on the rest of
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the second half, I'm putting it on the Homes. I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: think he was really really bad starting with that play
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: on the last player of the first half, and it
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: just continued the rest of the game. Such a dramatic
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: term within the game. I just end though, Listen, I
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: got and you know, I hate the Bengals for you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: particular reason, but I kind of like Joe Burrow. He's cool.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: He's a cool guy. You know. It's it's refreshing to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: see a guy come in just have the balls that
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: he has, ye know, but that can overcome that kind
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: of like sort of institutional incompetence. Right, That's that's impressive.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: They're right, And that was kind of mean and Paul
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: talking about that this morning too with the Bengals where
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: it's like it seems like they're in they're in the
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: sweet spot again. They hit this like every once a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: decade where they all their high picks somehow kind of
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: all come together and they have like three four years
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: where they got some stars and then you know it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: gonna I I hope for Joe Burrow's sake and for
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the league's sake that they're able to you know, keep
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: him successful. But yeah, it's what is cool, Like I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: would look at the other teams, Like, you know, we're
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: talking all these things as they relate to the Patriots, right,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: and we watched Kansas City and Buffalo, and we're like,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: oh oh um, you know, and then you sort of wonder,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: you know, if Aaron Rodgers ends up in the AFC. Oh,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't necessarily look at Cincinnatis and I
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: think that Borrow is tremendous, but I just don't have
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: any confidence that that team, right, we'll be able to
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: handle what they're about to have, you know, going forward. Yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: and then the uh, the ms um boy, that looked iffy.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I really thought the way the forty nine ers played
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: that game and the way they've played them in the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: recent past. You know, look, you know what, the forty
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: nine is gonna win this game. Oh. I thought for
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: sure the Niners are gonna They're gonna play their kind
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: of football until Kyle Shanahan. Yeah. Well, it was also
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: the dropped pick six near the end of the game
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: that hurt, with the Niners still had the lead at
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: that point, I believe it. And when the pick six
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: sorry sorry not intercept, Yes, sorry, yeah, sorry, I know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: but I mean because Jalen Ramsey dropped a pick six, right,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: But like, so that's that one doesn't get mentioned? It
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: does No Jimmy threw the ball right to number five.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Was it was no, but this one was right. It
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: was like it was fuilding a punka. It was too easy. Yeah.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: But even then, like Eric said, it would have been
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a punt, like it wasn't Feld, It wasn't you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: So the Niners would have had the ball with ten
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: minutes left up three yeah, Like that doesn't mean the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: game would have been what happened after that pick, after
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that drop they went, they went down, They went down
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and got a field by the game. Yeah, there you go.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So even if I know, so it was more than
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: just a punt, but I know, but the Niners could
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: have gone three and out. That's what I'm saying. Oh
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: they could have the game wasn't old, Yeah it wasn't
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: like yeah yeah, yeah, it wasn't like a Sante Samuel. Yeah,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: like if it wasn't, it wasn't it. Yeah, but you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: they had very good field positions somewhere around midfield. They
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: maybe at least put three more points on the board.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Now the Rams have to go for a touchdown instead
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: of a field goal. So I mean the change is
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: a good one because there is the Jimmy factor and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: all right to Jalen Rams and I know you're gonna
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: yell at me, Paul, but he's he's he has not
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: gotten better. I don't think I'm not yet. Why am
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I yelling it? Because I think he's an average I
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: thought he was average when he was here. I root
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: for Jimmy, but you know what, it kind of reminded
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: me like when when Jimmy was a puppy and he
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: made a did his business on the floor. It's like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: well he'll learn, But now he's a dog and he
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: hasn't learned. Ye shann him. He's making bad decisions. It's
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: just so sparrative because he has like periods where you're like,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: this is the Jimmy. I like, this is the Jimmy
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: that gets the ball out quick, lets his guys do
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the work. Some passes to you know, the kittle where
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: were you know when they were making that surgeon you
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: felt like he was gonna win. But I agree, there's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: just too many like brain fart moments with him that continue.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: And that's the kind of stuff that you know at
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: this point in his career, is he is he ever
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: gonna stop doing it. But I'm with you, guys. I thought,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I thought the game was was over at
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: seventeen seven. I thought the way the Rams were playing,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: they were so tight, they kept making so many miss McVeigh,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: you know, had two foolish challenges that cost him all
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: his timeouts. I just thought it was shaping up as
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: one of those games where the better team's not gonna win. Yeah,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, they own the Rams. Yeah, and
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: that's in a way that it looked. I mean, the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Rams had what twice as much yardage time of possession,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: and they kept you know, Stafford wasn't really sharp. He
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: threw a bad pick in the end zone that got
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: deflected and picked off. They should have had a big lead,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, Kyle Shanahan did Kyle
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Shanahan things. They couldn't run the ball the whole day.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: They averaged less than three yards to carry. They average
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: less than two yards to carry for a long stretch
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of the game. Their longest run was nine yards. Like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: they could not run the ball from here to there.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: But yet with a three point lead in a second
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: and one from the Rams forty four, he runs two
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: consecutive plays, including the second one to was fullback right
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and ends up in a fourth and two and still
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: won't let Jimmy throw the ball. Jimmy threw the ball
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: to get him down there, and I agree with you,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think he played a great game. He didn't.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: He didn't play well. But he hit twenty one yards
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: to get the drive started. Then he hit Kittle on
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a scene pass to get into Ram's territory. They run
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: the ball their longest run of the day, mind you,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: nine yards to set up second and one, and he
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: goes run, run, try to draw him offside, punked right.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You deserve to lose. You just lost the game right there.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: And then by the time he let Jimmy throw the
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: ball again, momentum had completely turned. And now Aaron Donald
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: is a man possessed who he had really done nothing.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Now in the first three quarters, all of a sudden,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Jimmy couldn't move in those last two drives. He was
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: getting killed. That's you know, that's what happens when you
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: don't take advantage of when you're playing well. Yeah, like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: they're going to be ebbs and flows in games when
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: the when the Niners were playing well, in that game,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Shannihan took the year out of the tires and that's
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: exactly what he did in the Super Bowl, and that's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: exactly what he did. And the for the Falcons um
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: he was very sporadic with how he handled that and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: you might you know, he threw when he should have
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: been running. He was throwing, and when he was throwing,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: he should have been running. Like it's he just gets
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it backwards. He does get a ball, he has three
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: unbelievable chokes on his rest. You mentioned our super Bowl
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: against him when he should have just run, he tried
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: to pass, you know, just kicked the field goal. That's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, Yeah, like he he ran the
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: ball when he should have been throwing it in this
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: game and against the Patriots he threw it when he
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: should have been running it. Right, Yeah, a lot of
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: thought going on. Seems like he's like for the good
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Way where he got all these crazy what are they
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: saying about me? Now? Plus, you cannot be the head
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: coach in the NFL and were a cat. You have
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: to put at least a curve to it. My kids
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: were like, who's that can't be a ball coach? It
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: can't be. He can't be a ball coach with a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: straight You're not nineteen on a skateboard. Curb your brim
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: or take the cap off. But the last six LA
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: playoff games just unbelievable theater, going down to the last
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: play um in all the division round games, and then
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Sunday they weren't. I thought the two games on Sunday
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: weren't great games necessarily to watch start to finish. They weren't.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: The fourth quarter delivered, the second halves were exciting. Yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: so I'm excited for the soup bo I mean, I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: don't care who's playing. There's like, no, there's no mere
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: on people like us. There's there's nobody's hoever. Yeah, So
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I will never I will never. I'm pointing to Eric
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: because I think he's the only one that remotely gets
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: thank you. I will never cease to be amazed with
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: how Patriots people can make it about them at every
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: single turn. I just I think it's a gift. It's
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: part of being a fan. Yeah, it's not just paid,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: it's your pure fan. So if it was the Rams
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and the Chiefs, that would be about the Patriots, Yeah,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: well the Niners. If it was the Niners and Bengals.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That's about the Patriots. Figure it out a figure. I'm
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: not figuring out who you're rooting for, because I I'll
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: root for somebody in every game I've ever been to. Yeah,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: I know. But why I hate you? Yes? Yeah, because
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: that's that's for the Patriots, that's you just en Campsite. No,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: that's why I hate this game. Yeah, Patriots fans look
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: at it is How how can I muster up some
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: hating it? That's right for any spot. I don't know
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: how any team. I don't know how you do. Yeah.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: I like just watching like a good game, like the Chiefs,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Chiefs Bengals. Don't you like to have something vested? No,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it doesn't have to, but I'd rather have it rather
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: have something. Tell you I was rooting from the homes
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: and borrow to score every possession the other day. Yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: but yes, what I'd rather like been rooting against, you know,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: like for a team and against another team. Yeah, because
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: that's how you watch games normally. Yeah, but I don't
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: have to have that, like Patriots fans need to find
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: that I watch. I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the nod.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Now you know who? Okay, they'll root against the Rams
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: because they spend too much money and that's not how
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: you do it. So I'll guarantee you when if they
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: lose the Super Bowl, you'll get the Mark Daniels of
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the world will say, see, that's why you can't win
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: that way. They'll be all over your Twitter. I'm gonna
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: tee it up and say, well, let's see how many
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: they can win without any first round picks for the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: next two seasons. That'll be mindful it is. It doesn't
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: matter that. It doesn't matter. For five years in a row,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: they've been in the playoffs and won games in the playoffs.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: It's the way they've done it is wrong, good Mike,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and that's the way Patriots fans will take. So Fred
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: says he likes the vitriol. Fine, you're allowed to like
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: the vitriol. The rest of us who don't like the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: vitriols should be allowed not to like the vitriol. We
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: just want to watch a good game. I know whoever
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: wins wins, I wouldn't care less. It doesn't have weak sauce.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily have a problem with Okay, so if
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: you don't, I mean, I can just see Eric with this,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you know with his tweet jacket and his his Scotch
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: just you know, oh splendid James, Oh boy, splendid game.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: That was a wealth thrown pass. I don't have any
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: problem with you, vitriol, Like you know me, I'll find
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: that something, but I don't know it. But it's like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: it's a specific thing. I want a motion. It's I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: need to be able to watch this game without having
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: to worry about how it affects the Patriots. To me
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: is next level ten. And by the way, like like
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: tinfoil hat stuff, the vitriol can change on a dime too.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: I can start up the game by wanting one team
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: for one reason. Then then something happens, and then I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: can turn. I will say this as I'm watching the
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Chiefs Bengals game. I'm watching it just saying, don't really
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: care who wins. I just want to see a good game.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And then in the first half liked said it looked like, oh, well,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Chiefs are gonna run away with this one. This is
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: gonna started rooting for the Bengals. I just wanted to
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: be oops so the game would then at halftime when
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: they had that brain fart and and didn't kick the
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: field goal. I was thinking, all right, the Bengals are
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: still in this, but let's see what happens in that
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: first drive. And then they kept staying in it, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: I kept thinking, Okay, now the Bengals really have a
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: chance to win this. So I started like rooting them on,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: like it wasn't going to kill me if they lost, right,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: But like that's what I said, like we can. That's
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: what I do every game I've ever seen. I told
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: you a million stories about covering high school events for
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the Herald, and I would go in and it'd be
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: like some random field hockey game between two schools that
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I never even heard of the cities, And five minutes
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: after I'm there, I'm rooting for one team or the other, right,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: because that just happens. It's it's a competition. So you know,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: maybe one team jumped ahead to nothing and you felt
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: bad for the team that was losing, so you started
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: rooting for them to come back. Dirty. Look But but
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I think that's all different than I know the way
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: that Deuce in his ilk look at. It's all about
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: an argument to be made, yea for the page. How
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: can Patriots be perceived to be even better? Than when
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: six times. I just care about I just I just
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: don't want the chiefs fans like coming at me. I
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: just don't want I don't want to hear it. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: just want to bubbles though they come at you. They're
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: not gonna win six titles. Well, don't tell them that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And if someone does, then you have for that back
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: and say no, they did it. They can't. Don't listen
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: to how could it ever be as good? Mike al
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: don't listen to them defend the one they're gonna go
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to defend the wall. I just don't think the wall
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: needs to be defended. And I don't think anyone's ever
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: gonna do what the Patriots did. Brady forgot you though,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Uh Like, I wouldn't waste my time worrying about that
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: because I don't think anyone's ever going to approach what
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Brady and the Patriots did. Yeah, I just don't want
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: to hear it. I just don't want to hear it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I ain't got time for that, right, I ain't got
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: time for anybody got time for that? I love? You
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: want the arguments my time? You know you want the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: argument end there all the time? Right? Yeah? You have it?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: How that go. Do you want to see my six rings?
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: All right? Told they only have five that one year
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: that they want something happened eight five five past five
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: hundred is the aceticket houtline web radio at Patriots dot
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: com is the email address hit You see by the
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: way that Mike Evans threw that touchdown pass into the
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: stands again? Oh no, last Ramsey. I did see Jalon
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Ramsey on Twitter was like, oh, he threw his last
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: touchdown against me. So that was kind that was kind
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: of funny. All right, let's get to the phones and emails.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Obviously everybody wants to get in on today's show. We'll
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: start with Sean and Vancouver. Hey Sean, Fred, you're making
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: me nervous by throwing the name Adam Gays in the ring.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Let go and replace Dave Ball in Buffalo and dead
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: and ruined Josh Allen. We don't we don't need him
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: here in New England. You don't like case No, no,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he ruined players. Oh I heard he's not, you know,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: as a head coach. But I heard you're a good
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. I don't know. I think it's not an
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: issue that you lost McDaniels. As long as you have
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a guy that can run the offense. I think it
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: is a problem if you're changing the offense. Yeah, if
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Mack is going through two systems in two years, that's
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: not good, right, It's not a good path for a
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: young quarterback to take. What do you think, Vegas is
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: the advantage would be getting the Ziegler over the Patriots
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: in the draft? Is there any again? So what advantage
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: does so? Like institutional knowledge that he brings with them,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and like guys that were interested in things that I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: was thinking of this actually that we're lucked in at
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: twenty one. The Raiders are twenty two. So if there was,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: for instance, a player that the Patriots coveted and Ziegler coveted,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta go get him. Well, you know, he'll know
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: that he needs to make a move to get above
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: twenty one. I wonder too, like where's the process at
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: this point? Though? Like have they you know? I mean
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: in the Raiders pick a little ahead of us, right,
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: I think he said, I mean, did you pull a friend?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Why are they behind? Didn't they lose the next because
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: they have a better seating The Raiders are at twenty two.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: The Raiders didn't have a better seed than the Patriots. No,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: but I just looked. I just looked at the updated
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: NFL rankings yesterday and where they were twenty two. I
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: thought they were I don't know, I thought they were
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the seven. Oh. I guess I was right. I misremembered that. Okay, anyway,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: that's why I was convinced was seven. Okay, Yeah, yeah,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: you're right, you're right. Yeah, you guys are right. Now,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: guys are right. Stop probably beating me. Okay, thanks, thanks, Sean. Um.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I'm with Sean no on the offensive coordinator thing. I
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: think it's easy to say it's good to have another voice.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe that unless it's a good voice. Yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't just think anybody is the same. No,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: but I also think there are a lot of good
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: football coaches out there, Like Josh isn't the only person
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: in the world who can coach a quarterback? No, no, no,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't say that. But Bill O'Brien to me, now,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you're you're having the same offense, You're having a guy
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: with familiarity with the system. It's it's pretty seamless. It's
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: just a matter of learning a different personnelity. Yeah, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: that's fine, Adam Gase, right, not the same? No, Right,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: And that's and that's kind of goes back to the
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: point I was talking about earlier. If you know what's
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the Belichick to Gaze if he was the oc connection
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: of you know, we're running the same offense that Bill
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Belichick wants to runner, is the Adam Gaze kind of
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: incorporating his terminology, his things like his own offense. To
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: be honest with you, right, right, you want to try
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: to keep as much continuity. But I have to believe
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: at this point that Bill believes in the offense that
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: they've had here for you know what, three offensive coordinators
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: I guess basically over the last twenty years. And yeah's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: crazy Charlie to Josh to Bill O'Brien back to Josh.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, But the other thing to all of those
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: guys ran the same all run the same offense, right,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I mean people are automatically assuming that if Belichick picks
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: up the phone and calls Bill O'Brien, Bill's gonna drop
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: everything he's doing and come back to New England. What
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: if Bill O'Brien Lison in Alabama, I know that, or
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Lison in college and likes what he's doing and doesn't
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: want to come back here. I mean, everyone's assuming that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: just because the Patriots pick up the phone, you're gonna
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: drop everything you're doing and coming in. Jacksonville hasn't hired
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a coach yet, right, five teams haven't hired opposedly, but
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: O'Brien interviewed with Jacksonville. I think that's wi you bring
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Jonville up. But I do think that there's some kind
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: of a glitch with Byron Leftwich. I think he they
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: want him to be the coach, um, but he wanted
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to get Bunky out. Yeah, And that was my my
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: whacked out conspiracy, my deuce theory. But with my tinfoil
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: hat on was that Brady was slow playing the retirement
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: over the weekend because he was trying to see if
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: he could get the red face dummy out and get
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Leftwich to stay and be the new head coach of
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the Bucks power play. But I don't think that's you
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: know that that was way out there, um, And I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: was just looking at Adam Gaates. I wanted to look
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: up because I know there was like some sort of
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: very minor connection to Belichick for Adam Gays that he's
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: has always been there, And there's a couple of things,
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm too lazy to look this up,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: but he was on the staff at LSU in the
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: early two thousands, from two thousand to two thousand and two,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: and my guests is saved at that at that time, Um,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: which is one my connection. But a little bit more
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: major is he was the Broncos wide receivers coach in
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: oh nine and ten, so he would have some familiarity
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: with the offensive system from that. Interesting. All right, So
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I'm not always just here to make fun of you people.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I I provide contact sometimes Patty and aga, what's up, Patty?
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: What's up? Guys? Lots of stuff going on over the weekend. Um,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: there's one thing I wanted to get into, and that
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: was Mac Jones becoming a Pro Bowl alternate. So and
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I know that we know from these past couple of years,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: would do some on the preum postgame show that the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Patriots listened to the show to get the keys to
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: the game. So if Mac is listening, I gotta tell Mac,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: please do me a favor. If somebody I know there's
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: no beaches in Las Vegas, but if somebody asks you
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to play a Desert Football game in the stand to say, no, yeah,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell we gotta tell Lawrence Spencer to make
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: sure get that message to you this week is that
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it took me twenty three years to make that joke. No,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: just will you watch him, Patty? Will you watch him
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: in the Pro Bowl? Oh? Of course, yeah. Do you
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: usually watch? Probably don't, but but now that he's in it, Yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I'll definitely watch it. That's like the only thing that
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: we'll get me to watch the Pro Bowl? The touchdown
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: Twins like put the stats out. Absolutely, did you see
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: that throw? I probably write something about it, right, I
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: think they Cam Newton was bummed out because I think
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: he was next in line McClellan. Once again, Cam loses
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: on mac Um. You can't tell me though, if he
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: like just throws like a little pass it, I think
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Tyreek kill. I don't know if he'll play or not,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: but he's one of them. But you know that's what
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that's what's gonna get everybody excited, Like, you know, he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: hits one of these, you have a weapon exactly, That's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: what it's gonna be. Yeah, and when no defense is
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: being played, I'm significantly significant will be frightened, frightened, free.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, we have breaking news. There's all
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: kinds of news on the on the uh on the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: phone that um that he's coming here to sign a
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: one day contract. By the way, I don't know if
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: there's any validity to it, but a lot of people
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: are suggesting that Brady will be here either tomorrow. Yeah, no,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: tomorrow's Wednesday, right, yeah, tomorrow, um for for a press
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: conference in Patriot Place and signing a one day contract.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know that there's any validity to that, but
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: who knows. He just reposted Craft's statement and just said
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: thank you Patriots and Patriot Nation, heartheart, bey, ungrateful, and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: love you all. So he reposted Robert Croft's printed statement
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: from the Patriots on Instagram and added those things. So
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: I think that's odds. Still, it's still odd. No, that
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't an Eric, Yeah, that doesn't that Oh oh yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, you you're inbox. I needed I got to him.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I needed to see you soon. And then winky emoji.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Right yeah, ah something bruin right, thanks Patty. But even
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: with all of that, I still don't understand why you
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: can't make any patriots right, Like if he had just said,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm retiring. I want to spend what's out
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: with my family. I don't have the competitive drivel you
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: want to go chapter in verse as detailed as he
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: was about everything in Tampa, right, yeah, and not do
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: the Patriots is odd. Like again, I don't he could
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. It's yeah, his choice. He had
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to know how he conscious however, that he knows how
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: it would how it would be perceived. There was a
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: reason that he left the Patriots out. I don't know.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe he has maybe in his last game he got
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: hit and he has amnesia and he forgot about the
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: last twenty years, but he didn't forget about his Michigan
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: selected Right, it comes and goes, let's go to Christian
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: in La Hey, Christian. Yeah, hey, guys, can you give
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: me okay? Yeah, yeah, okay, I will quickly. I just
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: go for the litany, right, tom Brady's retirement and not
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: mentioning the Patriots. Tom Brady's a very calculated gentleman. He's
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: in the STU businessman and he's a media mobile on
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the way. I think he knows what he's doing. If anything,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: for me, it looks like this is his savvy way
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: of sort of sticking it to Bill for what happened
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: during the play King when asked about the situation, and
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Bill said, talked to Tom. That was throwing him under
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: the bus. To Tom, I mean, no one really know
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: it's about that anymore, but that was kind of throwing
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: them under the bus. I think maybe it's the Tom
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: subtle way of saying, all right, yeah, talk to me,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: let me leave you guys out. That's it my theory.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Secondly on Josh leaving us finally and going to the
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: to the Raiders for me, And here's a crazy theory.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to be able to tell how
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: long Bill is doing a coach by the length of
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: the contract that Josh signs in Las Vegas. I think
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the Patriots or maybe the Craft or maybe that's weird
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: theory out there, that they're letting Josh Cutteth in a
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: more administrative way. I think you're over two on theory
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for two transition over two. Yeah, that's that's just a
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: crazy theory. Okay, it is crazy. I think you can
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: buy crazy. Thanks Christian, keep them coming. I don't ever
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: keep coming. I love I love outside the box thinking
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: rather than the group think I do, But I think
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: you can never say zero percent. But I think it's
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: an all but certainty that Josh mcgenials will now never
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: be the head coach. I agree with that. If he's
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: successful with the Raiders, he's going to be the Raiders coach.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: And if he's not, I don't think you want him
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: back right now. Now weird to think happened. I'm not
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: going to say zero percent. Sure, maybe something like that happens.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe he but he'd have to probably go somewhere. I mean,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: he's not going to just go from getting fired to
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the Raiders to come back here for the third head
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: coaching exactly exactly, That's what I said. Yeah, like that,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: how are like, well, how are the Raiders gonna feel
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: if like he's like, oh, well, you know, my three
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: year contract is up. We've won two Super Bowls, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: I got to go back to New England, you know,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: because they let me out of here. I think that
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: ship still. Yeah, and the other thing about the Scorpions,
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: I know, well, did anyone tell him maybe it's not
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: too lay the Scorpions. No, he can't. He already had
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the press conference. He's probably making so much money, he'll
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: have like somebody specifically to check every morning. Um, the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: theory about the Belichick thing, that's all fine and good,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: just don't mention him, right, and you're in your goodbye
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that's even better, right. That's that's a clear, like, you know,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: ostracizing of him. If you say, I think that you
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: know the craft, thank you all my New England teammates,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: and you don't mention the at the booth, right, and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: then then you don't even mention Bill. That's really you
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: talk about. It should be a wellness check for that, yeah, yeah,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: mention me um. So I think that's what got Megan
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: blocked by Martha. Meghan was very upset by the way.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: That was one of the yea, she was one of
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: the first ones she would hurt her faux outrage. She's
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: been all over Brady for like months now and then
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: like and then he does something and now she's like, oh,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that you love it, Megan, wherever you are,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: like it's something for you to be She's I can't
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: believe he did it, Megan. She's listening right now, I
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: hope so I would say it to her face. She's like, oh,
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: did he screw up? And slight the Patriots. Oh, let me,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I'm cooking with gas now like wearing her. Just keep
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: smelling it now. Uh eight five five past five hundred.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Cody and Fresno. Hey, Cody, Cody Coatster,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Cody not there, We can't wait. We'll go to William
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: in Brazil. What's up William? Will in Brazil? What's up
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: with her doing? Going? All right? Awesome, I'm doing super today.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Post that the Patriots nation finds something to hate in everything,
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: and I prove him wrong, wrong, because I love the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: fact that Tom Brade finally retired because all the things
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: that he was saying to the Patriot out, the shots
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: that he was taking a better cheek, and I could
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: not stand to see Tom Brady after twenty years playing
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: in another uniform. So I love that he retired. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: love scrap is gone and let's go. Let's let's move forward.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is a pro bowler. Let's hold on, hold good.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is going to He is not a probowler?
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Is a philosophical question. He's the eleventh altern right, we
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: have to find something to be happy, right, So he's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: going to the problem and Patriot All right, thanks, William
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I do. I do love the fact that William called
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: to say I think that I am I'm wrong that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Paton's fins don't aid every I think williams a little
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: tongue in sheet. Oh, no question why. I thought it
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: was hilarious. Yeah, that's good. I thought that was really,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: really clever. I'm gonna show you why we're not always
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: mad about everything by telling you how much I hate
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Tom Brahim. The nightmare is over a personal nightmare. God,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I don't want that guy winning six more titles for US.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: Rashad's in Baltimore. Hey, Rashad, Hey, Hey, what's up, um Bray?
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I want to say, um, yes, um last week I
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: didn't hang up on you. My phone had died. So
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I definitely, you know, I appreciate all the insight. And
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you know, Josh McDonald's gone. And I mean, do we
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: do we do we get Bill O'Brien or do we
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: look outside the box. I mean, I'm sure they're talking
• 47:46
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• 47:49
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what they're gonna do. I
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: really don't. And it's it's it's a two way street.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: He has to want to come right right, I can't
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: assume that he wants to come back, and the whole
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: ves too. I mean, that's you know, I think you've
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: got a lot of my head goes with Josh. I mean,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: of course he was probably the hes gonna be the
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: great quarterback I've ever seen in my life. But I'll
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: say my favorite memory and maybe my favorite throw of
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: his was that twenty fourteen games against the Raisings when
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: he made that throw to Brandon Lafel in the corner
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: of the one of the all time great, great, great
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: call by you. It's an often overlooked, ridiculously important and precise, yes,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: perfect perfect, Yeah, yeah, that had to be my favorite,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: my favorite throw of his ever. Without that throw, you
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: can make an argument that the second part of the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Dynasty doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah, yep, you're trying to remember
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the play. Just no, I remember that that that was
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: before he hated right now, That's true. You know, I
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: was just thinking of other of other of other throws
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: that that stood out specifically. I mean I always think
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: of Osa in Miami, those throws which I don't even
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: know if they were throws, as much as great catches
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: by Randy yea by the heaves and yeah, the field.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is maybe I'm going back a little ways,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: but one of the first times I ever saw a
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Brady comeback was a Monday night game in Denver the
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Safety game? Was it the safety game when he mentional
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: safety game? When he hit David Gibbons with like the
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: back shoulder throw that was I mean, to me, that
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: was an underrated throw just because of the circumstance where
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: he was in his career, the fact that it was
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Denver place where he always, you know, New England historically
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: played badly. I thought that was a clutch throw. But
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not high up on my list, but
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: that's one I always think, Oh no, that's a memorable,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: memorable throw. Absolutely, it deserves to be mentioned. I just
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: feel like there's not a lot made of When you
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: think of that Baltimore would come back, you think of
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the double Do you think of the trick place, Yeah,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you think of the the ineligible the ineligible receivers, and
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you think of the double pass right right. And with
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: all of that, they were still losing late in the game,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and he made an absolutely perfect pass to LaFell for
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: that touchdown, and I think if they lost that game,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: obviously you take away the fourteen title and who knows
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: what happens, right, you know, And I don't know why.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: But the twenty four nothing come back against Denver here,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: I have very little recollection. I am with you. I
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know. I'll tell you why.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why why, because it ultimately didn't matter.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: They ended up losing in Denver in the AC Championship
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: game anyway, No, I know, but like that particularly in Yeah,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: I remember that. That's one of the only remember. Yeah,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I have very little recollection of that. A lot of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: players had to have happened to come back, but I
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: can't remember. I know, I'm with you. Yeah, it was
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: Wisconsin running back for the Broncos that fumbled at the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Broncos were going in probably to put the game away,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: and they around midfield on Amante ball. Oh yeah, wow,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: fumbled on a screen and that sort of jump started that,
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: like because I think the Patriots came out and scored
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: and then you know, you're like, okay, you get a stop,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you know, and you start getting it back together. Uh.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: This was the Steve Burton game where he's celebrating on
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: The sideline of the day was the cover right Troy
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Brown and OT in Miami, and that was similar to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: the Denver the Denver game that Eric was talking about,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: because they had so many of those demons in Miami
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: and they also got really porked by the officials in
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: that game and they overcame it. Which one though, that
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Miami game that they want in overtime on the on
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the bomb to Troy Brown. H let's go to Bobby
• 51:41
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• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Are hey? So speaking of great throws, I'm mu sure
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: of it. A great throw, great cats. What do you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: guys think they? I say one of my favorite ones
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: probably the can Roll Thompson this corner against the Saines
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: game throw, Yeah, which is you classified as a Brady
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Brady talked about it and said he thought they blew
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: the coverage, which I thought was when he talked about
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: order his best throws, that was a kind of interesting
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: that he thought they just gotta blood. Yeah it was.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: That was a great throw. Yeah. Yeah, sort of touch
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: on two things real quick, because I'm used you like
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: a quick caller, like to call and just leave it
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: with something Um, what do you guys think about shadow shake?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, he was a
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: decent coach when he was here, but I don't know
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: how he's progressed. I honestly, I just there all these names, right,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they'd be good. I really don't
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the former wide receiver coach, but yeah, what happened in Miami?
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Why did Why did Florida bring him and want to
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: do it and then switched to after one year he
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: got to chan Gailey, right, he went back to Chan Gailly.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, but he did have like four offensive coordinators
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: in three years. Yeah. I looked it up and I've
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: seen he's the Browns passing him in coordrad als. So
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming he would just he would definitely be open
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: for the role. Um, I think I was gonna say good.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure that that's a promotion, but
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what he would rather do
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: if he's like the passing game coordinator is kind of
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: a coordinator job. I don't know that that would be
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: a wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator. Yeah, I mean,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: that's that's tough. I don't know where he's from where
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: is well he went to Marshall right. I think he's
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: from West Virginia. I don't know, but it's a name.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: It's a name right well, and that's just where where
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: where he is? And you want to bring in a
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: new guy to break in or it just doesn't seem
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: like anybody's really waiting. So that's why Bill O'Brien it
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: kind of feels like Bill o'brine or Buss where you
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: have a guy who you don't can do it, who can,
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of take over and do what Josh did.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: But or also or you promote somebody who's already here.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: That's an opportunity. I mean, don't forget like what's interested
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: in that, joh. But but let's remember Josh wasn't, you know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: a forty five year old man when he took the
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: job back in the early two thousand or whatever it was.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: He was a young guy learning from an experienced guy.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: So there is you know, somebody on the staff potentially
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: could be in that same totally agree and and not
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: even technically get the position, but you know, like they
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: do like Lerian title right always. Coach Stave was also
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: here for several years that's who before before he got it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: These guys haven't been These guys have been here for
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: twenty minutes. Mick Lombardi has been here for a couple
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: of years there, a few years. But it's we had
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: a way to look that up. He's been here. I
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: mean he coached the quarterbacks I believe in nineteen and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: then two years lead receiver. I thought he left my
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: whole thing. I thought Mick Lombardi left to go to
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the like the Jets, and came back. I could be
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: mister he was. He was a scouting assistant from eleven
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: to twelve, went to the Niners as a quality control
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: coaching assistant at Niners, and then went to the Jets.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: We did go to the Jets. Then, uh twenty nineteen
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: he came back as assistant quarterbacks and then in twenty
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one he took three year wide receivers coach.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: So but again it's but can you have this team
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: with neither a defensive coordinator or an offensive coordinator? Now
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: with what you have, it's just it feels like things
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: are getting too thin right now. You don't have to
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: know that though, No, I don't know. I know, I
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: know but people don't want to hear it. But you
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: can make Matt Patricia or a coordinator. Absolutely. I just
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying, if you're going to go that
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: route of well, we're gonna make the de facto kind
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: of guys. But it's just how long can you go
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: haven't de facto guys? And I mean, you think he
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: saw some of the problems with the defense when you
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: hear about you know, so many years has Nick Kayley
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: been here. I'd rather have Nick Kayley than Mick Lombardi.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Nick Kayley, I don't know. I don't know how any
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: of these guys would do. I really know. He's in
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: his seventh Patriot season, seventh NFL season as well, and
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: he started out as he's coaching assistant. He's been here
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: for seven years. Yeah, he done besides tight ends, offensive
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: coaching assistant. So he was just kind of like all
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: over the place. That's why, at least with Mick where
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: he's done the quarterbacks and the wide receivers, that that
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I think is kind of what Josh did maybe a
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: little bit, or maybe even Bill o'bee I think when
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: he got here called billowbib just awkward. All right, We're
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  Speaker 1: would be Tom Brady. Tom Brady. Okay, well with Giselle
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  Speaker 1: kind of is the giveaway. But anyway, um so I said, hey, Tom,
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  Speaker 1: did did he react to it? He's so tall, I
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  Speaker 1: eight five five past five hundred is the Ace Ticket
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  Speaker 1: about everything that's going on in the NFL, Tom Brady
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: retiring and snubbing the Patriots. As people think I think
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: that there's something to come. I could be wrong. I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: understand why people are upset. We're talking about Josh McDaniels
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: going over to the Raiders and what that means for
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones in the offense, we're talking about the games
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: over the weekend, in the upcoming Super Bowl, so everything's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: on the table um to talk about. Paul and I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: had chicken fingers ordering enough the kids huh uh. Back
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: to the phones and then we'll hit some emails. Lots
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: of emails coming in. Aaron's in Flint, Michigan. What's up, Aaron? Hey,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Hey? You know what the saying?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: Foolie want shame on you? Fool me twice? Shame on me? Yeah.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: Let I let Foo Boo TV app flew me again.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: This past week on the Cincinnati game, I was watching
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the old Oh you did it again? Oh? I thought
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: that was funny. But on that game, is it just
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: me or does Tony Romo irritates me when he says, oh,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl in a three minute left
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  Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, and then he's like, well maybe
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: you know he always walks it back a little bit. Yeah, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have to put him. Romo is the prototypical guy
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: who is just so reactionary that the words come out
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  Speaker 1: before it and he thought, yeah, and people are finally
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: starting to seven Charlie Weiss took a shot at him
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: over there. Yeah. Really, people are finally starting to see that.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: I kind of that good. I kind of like Romo,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: but he really had a seizure in this game. The
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: whole kneeling at the one yard line. Do you know
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: the situation, Tony, Yeah, there's no reason for the Chiefs
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: not to want to score, right. I could make an
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: argument right away on first down, right away, right away,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: which is when he said it, like do you let it?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Do you let them score? But that's different than taking
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: a knee at the one yard And he was like,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: and then if you're the Chiefs, do you take a
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: knee at the one? No? You need a touchdown to
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: win her? What are you do? Like the field goal?
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: He ties it. You can't risk not being able to
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: get in Rice like that was crazy. Yeah, And he
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: kept going on and on when the Giants in the
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl tried to not score on the field goal
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: would have won the game, right, not tight it right?
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: He was Romo, Yeah, Aaron, I hear you. I hear
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: you about Tony. Yeah, yeah, I guess I'll go in
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: a different direction with Brady as far as the i'
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: going One of his blooper moments in the game, and
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: they'll always stick out with him because my brother is
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: the number one Philadephia Eagles fan. And when Brady fell
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: on the quarterback path, well you know where he was
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: trying to catch them, right, Yeah, yeah, didn't look good. Yeah.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: If news hearing you guys talk about like, if if
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: there's any validity to it, then he'll come sign a
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: one day contract to retime he the Patriot, that will
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: be I hope, so yeah, I hope so too. Yeah,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: all right, Aaron, thanks for the call. Yeah, I think
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: in recent memory the biggest blue board I've seen Brady
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: mate when he didn't know what down it was. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: held up the four fingers. Yeah yeah, I made a
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: lot of them though he's no, no, no. He ended
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: up winning a Super Bowl that year, So uh, Spee's
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: and Fresno. What's up? Speed's going on? Guys? Thank you
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: doing good. I'm not very plugged into social media, so
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: I don't good for Twitter or anything. Actually, I was
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: not aware of the outrage about Tom's omission of the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Patriots until the very start of the show your show today. Um,
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: you know I had seen the statement because my wife
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: sent it to me, but I read it and I
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of took it at like he was thinking,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: this is the team that I'm on right now, So
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: this is the team that I'm going to call out
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: right and I'm retiring. But I just assumed that, like
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: he's good, like you were saying, but he's gonna do
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: something for the Patriots. I mean, with the Patriots, good
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: be a big deal. It's a long time to have
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: to cover, you know, to just put it out in
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: a statement right now. Yeah, maybe it's yeah, but you
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: figure you'd say something, you know, But I don't know.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming something's gonna come, but I could be wrong.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: And even if something isn't coming, Like he has to
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: know that he's got a lot of stuff to do
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: here in the near immediate future of you know, getting
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: into the Hall, and I mean, he's gonna be around
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: here to go somewhat. So I'm trying to just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: make sense to me that he would take a purpose
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: little shot on the way And I don't remember. I'm
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: just thinking off the top of my head here, But
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: like when Jordan left basketball, he was playing for the Wizards,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't he at the time, Charlotte or Charlotte, Right, Okaya, Like,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I don't remember this, but I'm sure he
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: put out some sort of statement and thanked the Bulls
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: for his his years in Chicago, Am I right? I
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I know, but like you, he
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: must chose some statement, like I think he did the
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: uh like I'm done or something like that, right, took
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: out an ad in the NewsPage, yeah, or I don't
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: whatever it was, but like, I'm sure he had to
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: have he had to have thanked the Bulls. I'm sure
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: when Brett Farve retired, he was playing for the Vikings
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: at the time. Right, I'm sure he thanked the Packers
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: and Green Bay for all these years, right, Like, like,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: this is what you do if you're if you're ending
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: your career in a certain thing, you thank the especially
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: the team or the organization you work the longest with.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: It's it's incredibly bizarre. It's it's I know, but it
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: seemed like he said a goodbye at the end of
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: those eight pages. Like it's like that was the statement.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: And if you completely leave out the most obvious thing,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't make any sense. It's strange. Even if
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: you're gonna do something else. You can hint at it
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: like Patriots Nation love you, you haven't seen the last
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: of you yet, like something like that. I have to
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: admit it is strange. It's bizarre. So now you have
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: everybody kind of holding on thinking that maybe there's something else,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: but maybe there isn't something else just sitting here right what. Yeah,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: like he could do like they're waiting for the phone
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: to ring. We've been talking about, you know, will he
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: come back and signed the one day contract, all those
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: kinds of things, the pomp and so he could do
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: it all. I still think it's odd that he didn't
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: mention the Patriots. Yeah, yeah, well anyway, Dave Patten, David
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: Patton passes, A couple of them were like to like
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: touchdown pass that I remember vaguely. I think there was
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: one against the Chicago or something. Yeah, absolutely sick sixt.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, so you were talking about
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: maybe Bill press the accelerator in the last offseason with
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: the kind of doing trying to do a little bit
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: too much in the rebuild too quickly and I'll hop off.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: But I wanted to know what what would you have
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: preferred to see him do or moves you didn't want
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: to see him make like, how would you have how
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: would you have slow played that that? Yeah? No, and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: I saw your emails on the same subject. I really
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: wanted to answer his question. Um, when we talked about that,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: I put it out there as a conjecture. That's not
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: necessarily that I agree with it, but you join the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Felder Yeah, facility is it? Is it possible that they
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: were paid a little too impatient? Yeah? Um, And I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: was just throwing that out there. What would I have
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: done instead? Well, I wouldn't have taken John hu Smith,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I would I I probably Henry Anderson. I probably wouldn't
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: have taken Henry Anderson. And I probably know that. You
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: know I'm being funny there. Yeah, that's that's the hard part, Like,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: because I get Fred's point, um about the impatience, and
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: maybe you didn't have to spend it all at once,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: but the kind of did. But then you get into
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: the situation where well, sure, if I had hindsight as
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: my guide, I would have only taken Kendrick Bourne and
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Udor Henry and Matt Judon and then maybe not the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: other guys. Yeah, I'll tell you, I would have saved
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: some money and only gotten players that help. I'll tell
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: you one thing I would have done, and I'll joke
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I would have kept Sony, But that's kind of a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: joke I would have made. I would I would have
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: made a harder I don't know what was going on
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes with Gilmore, right, but I would have
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: made a harder push for Gilmore. That's and that's what
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: I was going to lead into. And I mean i'd
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I'd tie it to jac Jackson too, went to the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, got he got the ma he got the
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: mac Jones. Everybody else backed out. But I think you're
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: you're you're a little shorthanded this offseason. You have some questions,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: get that last game with jac Jackson. You know, some
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: of these guys that maybe you would have liked to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: have some of that money you had last year this
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: year to recalibrate, because I think they had to know
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: not everybody in the free agency class is going to
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: be a home run, but you'd like to have a
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: chance to maybe recalibrate a little bit this year. And
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they really have that. I feel
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: like they're kind of stuck with with those guys like
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: Aglare and Smith, and you know, they're they're kind of
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: just hoping that that they kind of click on the second.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: But we talked about it before the time. The Patriots
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: were like the only team with money to spend, you know,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: because of the COVID, the cap reduction and all that stuff,
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: So you kind have had to do what they did. Now, Yeah, hindsight,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: maybe not John's, but I can't. I can't disagree with
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: going out and having a spending spree when you had
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: no competition. You know, you were the only ones bidding
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: top dollar for these guys, so you really were able
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: to pick off these guys. You know, but with all
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: that money to spend. Again, I might have used a
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: little more on Gilmore, I don't. Yeah, I mean, and
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I pushed it into just into the future a little
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: bit more and let and let these initial free agents
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: kind of play out and then have some money to
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: adjust who doesn't quite work out, and you know, not
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: be necessarily tied to people because I think a lot
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: of that money you're you're actually paying it this season,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: that this is when you're actually given them the cash.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: So I think that's what makes it a little bit hard,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: And that's why I think I'm not really holding my
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: breath for a huge free agency. I think it's all
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: the draft, don't you know, don't I mean, it's more
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: likely they pick up a contributing body via trade, I think,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: than free agency. And how do they rejigger with their
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: own guys, And you know the contracts that they have
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: talked about, Shack Mason, Jonathan Jones, those guys, guys that
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: are up near the top. And I think there's just
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of work to be done. And then you know,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: you talk about the Josh of it all and the
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Ziegler of it all. It's just it's all kind of
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: piling up right now. And I know that they'll address everything,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: but you're just kind of getting ramped up for how
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: busy it's gonna be over the next few months. All Right,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: I want to dive into these emails web radio at
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Patriots dot com. James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: in the world, writes in I'm with Paul, no need
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: to defend the wall. No other team will achieve or
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: get away with what we have over the last few decades,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: so we should be good. Also, was I the only
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: one to receive a personal text from Tom thanking me
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: for everything he achieved. Apparently you were because everyone else
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: is very upset. You know, Yeah, most people are really upset,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: John writes, and he claims to be a lifelong Patriots fan.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: I believe him. Wtf is wrong with these people who
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: think Brady isn't going to have a separate mention of
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: the Patriots. Tampa Bay is only ten percent of Brady's career,
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: and he ended his career there with the Patriots. Do
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: you seriously think the Patriots team an organization is going
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: to be left out? I think Brady comes back for
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: a day just to retire again as a Patriot, because
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: that's where his heart is. I think Robert Kraft is
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: going to have a special event to honor Tom Brady
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: and then retire Brady's jersey. Brady started his NFL career
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots and became a legend with the Patriots.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: Let him give his props to the Bucks because it's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: the right thing to do. Everyone who's ticked off because
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: he hasn't yet mentioned the Patriots will be eating Crow
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: because that's who he really wants to retire his NFL
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: career with. Tom Brady will be back to Gillette to
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: retire as a Patriot. Nobody is disputing that any of
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: what he said about there might be some event or
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: a big sort of to do. It's weird that he
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: didn't mention them at all. Yeah, it's like he completely
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: ignored the twenty years prior to his arriving in Tampa.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: But I mean, what if he's what if he's thinking,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: you know what, there's no I can do the Patriots
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: justice in the same thing where I'm mentioning the Bucks.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: So I'm retiring. My last scene's a Bucks. I'm retiring
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: as a Buck, and then I'll do something with this.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: So hint at it hint at Patriots nations that people
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: aren't Yeah, haven't seen the last of me something like that.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: I think he mentioned every single elements, yeah, right of
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: his career, even Michigan. I think I mean Alex Carrera. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: that was the one that was like, but I that's
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: the one that the wall is upset though. That was
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: when I was like starting to be like, well, it
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: just seems like because I agree with fred Kinna that
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: he was you know, he's ending his career with them,
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: and he did put out a huge statement about the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Patriots when he left here. And you know, initially I thought,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: all right, well he's just saying goodbye to Tampa Bay.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, as I started reading, then all this
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: send like, well, Alex, well he's been on the whole time.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Like to Eric's point, he could say, and as far
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: as the Patriots, I'll refer back to what I said
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: when I left, and I hope to that, you know,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: to the you know, I still feel the same way
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: some sort of mention, Yeah, some sort of I'm just like,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: I think it's weird. I'm really all that upset about it.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: It's weird. Emailer thinks that everybody's upset about it. Some
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: people are upset. I don't need to thank you from
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady for getting to watch him play. You hate him, Yeah,
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, so what do you care. You're welcome, Robert.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I won't forget to do so, Robert and Stale. A
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: year ago, all we heard was how Mahomes would be
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: the goat and pass Tom and rinks. Despite getting throttled
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl by the Bucks. We were hearing
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: that noise again for most of Sunday. Mahomes has played
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: poorly in seven of eight quarters in the Super Bowl,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: it was awful for the last thirty five minutes in
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: the AFC Title Game. There is no next goat. Maybe
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: it was fitting for Tom to lose his last game
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: because his defense couldn't make a big stop when they
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: had to, as that was usually the only thing that
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: could stop Tom in the biggest moments. I've been on
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: the Brady train since he was at Michigan and can't
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: believe what an incredible ride it's been. Best quarterback, best leader,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: best winner. What we've experienced the last twenty years will
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: never happen again. And Patrick Mahomes has shown us why
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: LFG forever. There you go, that's it right there, right.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: But that's to Paul's point. You know, you know remember that,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: dare you say someone else could be the greatest? How
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: dare you say forget the greatest? Because no one, I
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: don't think, would ever say that they're the greatest. Oh.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: They they were saying that my homes could be the
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: next one. Oh but not my home. And he's the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: next one. He is the next You know what other
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: talk has subsided? Could Andy Reid eventually be better than
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick? No answer is no, No, he needs a
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: few more No. Um Brett and Austen. I think Brady's
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: letter that he wrote when he left the Patriots thinking
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: the fans and the crowd. I'll start this over for
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Brett and Austen. I think Brady's letter that he wrote
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: when he left the page, thanking the fans and the
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Crafts Bill, etc. Was his retirement letter to the Patriots.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: He thanked the Bucks this year as he thanked the
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: Patriots two years ago. I doubt there was another hurrah
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: in the pipeline. So he thinks that's it. That he's
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: still bizarre. It doesn't matter, but it's still bizarre. No
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: matter all these explanations, I still come to the same
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: conclusion about it. It's odd and I can't figure out
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: why he would do that intentionally. Well, thank you. If
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: it was just about I'm retiring, thank you to Tampa,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: you know, then I wouldn't think it's odd. But but
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: it's six seven. Every other entity that's ever cross paths
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: with him was mentioned, except for the Patriots. Breton Virginia
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Beach wondering if news alerts podcast emails are still a thing,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: or if the McDaniels news and Brady news. The Schefter
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: report didn't rise to the level of one of those here.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: They are still a thing and they are still going
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: to be a thing. But we had a like a
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: blizzard on Saturday that you know, we were trying to
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: deal with, So that was kind of a big thing. Um,
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: you know. So I think on a normal weekend or day,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: if those things happened, we would have had one. We
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: needed an emergency podcast because Josh McDaniels took the Raiders jott. Yeah,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: I think that would have been like what does this
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: mean for the Patriots. Absolutely, it's funny it happened. We're
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: on the radio and we're not really talking about Wow.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's other things going on. I think he
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: combined the Brady retirement. About the only thing everybody's talking
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: about is not getting thanked by Brady. That's the only
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: thing that has dominated the two hours of the shelf.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: Uh Silburton, New York says it's simple. Brady is hurt.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: He never wanted to leave New England. He felt he
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: can still play at a high level, and the Patriots
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: felt otherwise. Patriots is the wife who dumped him, and
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is the new girlfriend who brought him back
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: to life. I love tb and I'm gonna miss him.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: But there's been other things since then, where like he
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: won a super Bowl with his new team. Yeah, like
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: it's water into the bridge at that point. You know
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: what did Bill say to him in that twenty minutes
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: after the locker, right he had left off the thank you? Right,
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: he spoke to me like he did in the elevator
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: that day when we were going up to the press conference.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I read your articles, I saw your super Bowl. It
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: was total thanks. Let's just leave a comment at the
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: bottom like everybody else Andrea New Jersey. First thing, f
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Glad they're not going to the super Bowl.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: The disappointment on Mahome's face and no screaming wife, just
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: bring joy to my heart. Now on to Tom in
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: his incredible career. The game will not be the same
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: without him. Knew it had to end soon, but happy
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: he beat father time and left injury free. Can't thank
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: Kraft and Belichick enough for picking one nine overall and
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: giving him a chance that led to six super Bowls.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: His competitives, his toughness, and the passion for the game
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: with ice in his veins is what I loved about him.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: Nobody that will come close to what he did. Gillette
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: start building that statue and by asking this question, isn't
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: it odd for him not to mention the Patriots once
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: on his IG post? Its weird. Yeah, we've been saying
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: it from an hole and a half. Yeah, he's very,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: very hurt, Andre New Jersey, He's very hurt. It really was.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: I just again to gott to be so impressed with
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady though, just his ability in the clutch to
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: deliver and to make every single Super Bowl he played
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: in a possibility. And you know those games, they had
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: good games, bad games. But that's the thing I think
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: that it's just makes him so special and sets him
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: so apart. It's just how well he could perform when
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: the game was on the line, when they had to
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: have it, And you can just feel it from like,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I was listening to NFL Live yesterday with
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: Mina Kimes talking about it of other fans of just
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: when it started clicking, you knew, like, oh god, Like
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: It's just it felt inevitable at certain times that he
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: was at least going to make a push, if not
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: take the game over. And I mean some of the
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: records he has of like having a losing record going
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: into or you know, having a losing score going into
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and he has like a winning record
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: like things like that that are just mind blowing. Chris
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: and Virginia also one is why I didn't mention it,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: and he says he I also noticed that the picture
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: he posted is him at Gillette this past season. Maybe
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: I'm over. That's going around too. That's going around too.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: The picture he posted subterfuge where he posted a picture
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: and it was him like smiling and if you look close,
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: he was at Gillette State. Who was this Brady? Brady?
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: The picture he posted was him at from the Tampa Guy.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't look at the thing. I know
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: you didn't. I was asking something I was on part
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: of this thing. Printed it. I printed because in case
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: we were gonna kills more trees than anybody I've ever seen. Yeah,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: will you file that. We're just talking about how you
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: know and when what we're doing the show, we should
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: referenced the radio the animals made the trees. Eric, think
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: about that. My second question is whether you guys I
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: hate you all, Whether you guys think it right here,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: I'll start the sea over. My second question is whether
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: you think Hoyer takes some role in the offensive coaching
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: when with Josh leaving. He's good relationship with Mac and
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: it's very knowledgeable of the offense. That's not a bad thought.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: Does he want to be a coach? Right? Nobody's Does
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: he ever coach? You can? Can he coach? Can coach?
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: Does he have any aptitude for coaching? Right? But you
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: ever coach like a youth basketball? Like? That sounds good?
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: Offensive coordinator? Yeah, I mean, but it's not a bad thought.
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: Then I think it'll be more coaching. That's not right
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: like his career. You're not going to be the backup
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: quarterback next year, Brian, But what do you think about
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: trying to cut your teeth? We think that you'd be
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: good at this as the assistant quarterbacks coach. Just approaching
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: a coaching assistant along those lines, did you guys see
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I think I told you this yesterday Duce the Texans
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: I think it was the Texans had two interviews with
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Josh McCown. Oh yeah, Josh McCown is for their head
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: coaching because head coaching candidate for Houston. I mean, it
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't that sound a little ridiculous. It's very it's very,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: very very hurt. No, it's very ridiculous. Um now, at
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: least he I think he has coached. Yeah, I thought
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: he just finished playing in high school, all right, I
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: just finished playing. Yeah, but he came back only for
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: he was the COVID emergency quarterback. He's been retired for
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: a couple of years. But it's still ridiculous. He has
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: not coached at the NFL left, and someone is offering, well, well,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: they must have missed that question in the first interview,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: like where it gets back, So you never I think
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: he at all? Yeah, I don't. I don't my knowledge,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's had any experience at the NFL level.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: It's funny, though, Travis in Baltimore. I'm sure Paul is
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: already pooping on the pages fans who I'm sure have
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: called into complaining. I'm not pop. I'm not pooping on you.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's odd. I'm seriously I'm not pooping. But
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: I feel the same way as those who are a
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: little miffed about Brady's post. If Peyton Manning could thank
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: Indy twice, once when he left the team and again
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: in his retirement speech, he even thanked Patriots fans, I'm
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: supposed to assume Tom Brady's thumbs got tired writing an
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Instagram post and couldn't even put a sentence about New
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: England in there. Give me a break. The omission was intentional.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can dispute that. I just hope
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: the intention was a good one, maybe for a surprise
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: announcement later, and not a bad one. A middle finger
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: to New England. Yeah, I'm not pooping on you guys
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: for thinking it's strange. Like I don't. It doesn't bother me,
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: But if it bothers you, I'm I'm not here to
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: tell I'm not a big fan of having people tell
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: you how you should feel. I'm not a big fan
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: of that. Leave that to the left. Oh, they like
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: to tell everybody how they feel. But here's the funny thing.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 1: Josh Josh McCown right, Yeah, not even the head coach
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: at high school's offensive assistant at Rush High School in Rusk, Texas, offensive,
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: not even offensive coordinator. It's Josh right, Josh Josh McCown. Yeah,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, according to the Wikipedia, their cas he was
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: born on July fourth. How about that. Let's get back
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: to the aceticket half line. Uh Lilith is in Orlando. Hello, Lilith,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Lilith train Yeah, Frazier Lilith, I'm listening. Hey, hey, guys,
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: take my call. I don't know. Maybe you guys are
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: able to clarify. After the Bucks game, Brady hadn't been
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: something about returning back to Foxborough, whether it's to take
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: care of business or handle some matters or some sort.
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: He did say he'd be back, he'd have things to do. Yeah,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: he did say that. He said, I'll be up there,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: I'll be around, can potentially announce something over here at
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: a Foxborough I just I don't know. I feel a
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: lot of Bill Belichick rubbed off into Brady where he
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: won't addressed the elephant in a room. I love. It's
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: pretty professional. Yeah. So, and so maybe he does have
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: something going on over here in New England. It'd be
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: funny he's got in he's got this big secret for
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: New England and then Adam Schefter leaks it out, ruins
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: it again. Yeah, yeah, it could be. I would like
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: that could be. Yeah. And then one final thing, in
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: regards to Max Jones and Josh McDaniel exiting New England,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: how do you need to feel his development is going
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: to go now that Josh, I mean one year under
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: Josh's you know, play calling on offense. He obviously did
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: it pretty well. Does that change going into next season?
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: And depends who Hi, thanks guys. Yeah, it depends. Yeah,
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: it depends on a lot. Mac Jones like that too.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: He needs We'll see if he develops. I mean, I
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: would feel more comfortable if it's somebody who has been
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: in the system, or at least you feel like there's
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: some kind of continuity. Um. But like I mean, I think,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: like Paul's hinting out, I mean, I think it's a
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: lot up to Mac to you know, make those strides,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: and you know he's played football before. I still feel
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: like it's not completely dependent. But I hope that he
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: can find somebody that he can work with. And um,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: Eric I did look up by the way he did.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien did credit Mac Jones for helping him. I did.
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: I did find. I know we're making fun of that
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit, but you know that, I mean it's
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: probably what they spend like a couple of days together,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: but you know, just some layout you'd like that to
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: be a symbiotic relationship that you know somebody's going to
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: come in and be excited to work with with Mac
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: and know what he does, and you know, maybe bringing
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: a new twist or a new set of eyes to
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: the offense. And I think that, you know, that's something
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: I just I'm intrigued with Bill Brian. He's been around
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit. He's taken what he learned here, he's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: tried to apply it in college in other NFL teams,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: So I just I think that experience could serve him
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: well in terms of coming back and just you know,
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: maybe bringing something fresh to the offense that you know,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: no no, no, no slide against Josh, but just I
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: think anytime you get somebody new, you're going to get
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: something a little bit different, and maybe he'll employ the
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: personnel in a little bit of a different way that
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: maybe gives the Patriots some kind of flare in twenty
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: twenty two they didn't have last year. Um Alyssa writes
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: in I Have a theory. She says, what if the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: last episode of Man in the Arena is a thank
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: you episode to the Patriots nation. He brings on Bill
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: and Robert Kraft, and Brady goes into depth about his
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: time in New England. The whole thing was about his
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: time in New England. I'm starting to wonder if there's
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: enough that Tom Brady can do now to make up
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: for this light No, but like the last episode of
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: The Man in the Arena is going to be about
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: his retiring. I don't I thought that as soon as
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: they announced that, yes, band, guys get it and all
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: of that could be true. I don't understand why the
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: Patriots couldn't be included in the state. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: the right, that's the bottom line to all. It remains odd, curious, curious.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Even if he does do something after this, it still
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: remains curious that he didn't do it. Like it looks
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: like a petty like back turning, like I'm not talking
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: to you kind of thing. It looks it's we'll see
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: that still feels like I just I don't really buy
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: like that this was intentional because it seems like the
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: most petty, stupid thing ever, Like you know, like I so,
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: I don't really buy that there's some kind of vitriol
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: now that he is like expressing by not saying anything.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: He's since come out. I mean, he did a tweet.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough for every responded. Yeah,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: I think he put out his own tweet too, Anna
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: and tel Aviv. Well, it took me two years to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: process Brady's leaving to the Bucks, and now that I'm
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: finally happy for him and want him to succeed he retires.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: It is hard to watch Brady leave the game, especially
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: at the level he was playing at. I have to
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: believe that Brady left out the Patriots in his ig
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: and focus solely on the Bucks organization because he's going
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: to retire as a Patriot and his tribute to the
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: Patriots will come at that time. A few remaining thoughts,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I root for whoever has the least chance of catching
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: the Patriots and Brady's Super Bowl titles. That's my rule
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm sticking with it. In the case of the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: Bengals versus the Rams, it's a tough one. Finally, I
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: blamed Giselle for everything, for Brady leaving the Patriots and
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: for him retiring. Well, they still got through more titles
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: out of him whence Giselle came into the picture, so
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: she wasn't didn't ruin it that much. Yeah, let's see
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: talking about best throws for the Patriots, I mean for Brady.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: Randy says some that come to mind are Malcolm Mitchell
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: and San Francisco in the touchdown against Baltimore to take
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: the league. That's San Francisco one. That was that was
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: a good one. I remember was cutting across the another
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: player for that. Yeah, he just run. I mean after
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: the catch. It was kind of the way that I
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: didn't get like narrowed narrowly got in between some guys
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: to get to Malcolm Mitchell on and then he turned
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: out the field to definitely the Brandon lo fell one. Yeah. Uh, Cannon,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: New Jersey says, I think there are two plays that
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: explain the difference between Brady and Mahomes. The first is
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Mahomes at the end of the half on Sunday, and
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: the other is Brady on the sideline when it was
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: fourth and inches late in the game. During Super Bowl
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: fifty three, NFL films caught him saying, let's just kick
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 1: the field goal and win the game. One guy wants
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: to be the crazy side arm playground superman, and the
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: other doesn't care who gets the credit as long as
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: they win. You see, That's what happened. Yeah, and I
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: blame this Mike on you. Yeah, I really don't care
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: that he didn't mention the Patriots in his post. Whatever,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: let's not get two worked up over it. It was
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: a wild ride for two decades and I'm thankful. So
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: why don't you look at it this way? Why in
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: the world would the head coach have to be talked
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: into kicking that field goal, which he was, He had
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: to be talked into it. Instead, they find a way
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: to manufacture hate for somebody else. I'm astounded by it.
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: I never will stop being astounded by it. It amazes me.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: Somehow Patrick Mahomes had something to do with Stephen Gastowski's
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: game ceiling field goal in the Super Bowl against the Rams.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: Barton poem. By the way, the quarterback had to convince
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: the coach was the right call, right. We all saw
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the and Brady was wo have be incredulous, like, yeah,
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go the field goal. The game is over, right, yeah,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: Barton Poland just as I predicted Bengals versus Rams. Wasn't
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: it nice to see the Chiefs choke it Atlanta style? Also,
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: rookie mac Jones Pro Bowl has a nice ring to it,
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: and of course Pro Bowl appearances are useless stats. But
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: I think that it will be a valuable experience for Mac,
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad he's going to Vegas. And when it
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: comes to Brady, it's a shame that I never got
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: to see him live. I was hoping that the Bucks
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: would come to Germany next season so I could go,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: but it seems as it is too late. Now I
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: guess I'll wait for the Patriots in Mac to come
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: to Europe. Okay, yeah, belong, sure, I'm I'm excited to
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: watch Mac in the Pro Bowl. I haven't been excited
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: about anything to do with the Pro Bowl since I Wassily.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: I just well, we will have a content team out there,
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, not so much the game, but the
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: stuff during the week will be pumping out for sure.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: That's different the Pro Bowl. Interactions with other players, interactions
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: other ox in our mactions. It's going global. Yeah, so
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: we'll have stuff coming from the Pro Bowl. Suddenly, Vegas
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: breakdown throws another country. Vegas is overseas all of a sudden, Mario,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Mario and Derby Connecticut been listening since O for and
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: this is the first time I'm not aligned with any
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: of you. That retirement post was an insult to every
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: single person in New England. Caps all Caps. We stood
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: by that weirdo through the flake gate, that lame long
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: hairdo and oh wait, and putting up with his TV
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: twelve Alex Grafrado nonsense. And now he retires and doesn't
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: acknowledge the Patriots fans. I wouldn't care if he didn't
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: acknowledge Craft and Build due to his own pettiness. But
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: we the fans deserve better, all Caps. I'll be burning
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: my Brady jersey today. He's dead to me. Wow scenario
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: and Derby, Connecticut. He's not coming up for the retirement
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: ceremony in two alert the Derby fire to apartment is
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: going to be a bonfire at Mario's house. How does
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: he disagree with it? I think we all kind of agree.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: It's weird. Yeah, that he didn't acknowledge that he's mad
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: when not mad. Yeah, he's mad that we're not mad
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: about it. Some people are mad. I'm not us on
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: this show. I'm not mad, I mean mad. Deuce is
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: mad about everything. He's not mad about this. He hated
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: to thank me for you hated Brady. If Robert crafton
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: Jonathan want to be mad that he didn't thank him, fine,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: but he didn't need to thank me. Anything. He gave
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: me freaking twenty years of how the guy who hates Brady,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: he's the only one who's not mad. Yeah, I don't
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: have any expectation. I think Deuce is suppressing something. That's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: what it is. He didn't expect anything. I would not
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: want to I would not want to be on the
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: road passing Deuce, like cutting him off today, because I
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: think it'll all come out in a fit of road rade.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 1: No one's gonna pas men be flying just soad. I
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: think he's he's suppressing. Yeah, that's not healthy, Deuce. He's
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: got to let it out. Now it's all over. I'm
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: happy I don't have to deal with him being hung
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: around my neck or you know, for the rest of
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: around your neck An Albert, right, yeah, um, Alex and Pentucket, Yes,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: I know, Petucket. How did you get How was snow
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: in your area? By the way, Eric, I measured? I
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: went out with the yardstick. I did not I did.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Did you send it into a weather station? No? I
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: know Erica anyway, Eric twenty two, twenty two. Yeah, that
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: was that like a drift or no, I went to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: a flat because there were plenty of drifts that were
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: higher than that. How was your shoveling? Was that the
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: first time you shovel pain in the ass you had
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: to shovel all that. Yeah, it is a snowblower. Snowblower,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: it'll be ready in the spring. F Tony Mazerotti with Okay,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: I get it that Arrands gave you a free snowblower.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: You have to like tweet out every like moment that
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: you were out there snowblower's embarrassing. Um, but I would
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: have thought you would have like looked different. One. Wow,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: they're all book Paul. You can't get a plow. They're
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: all booked. There's no plows. Never heard kids? Did you
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: go on the app like I told you, No, you
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: could have forgotten one. Yeah. No, neighborhood kids running around
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: look flows in mos Yeah. I could make a quick
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: books with like z at the end. Yeah, we had
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: these kids in my neighborhood. They they've got a four
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: by four. They're like probably twelve thirteen years old. They
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: got a four by four with a mini plow on
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: the come do it. They were driving around the neighborhood.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Just good for them, just looking for That's what I like.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: If I had a simpler I feel like that would
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: be me. I would be going around you need, like
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: I just be handing out plows. But meanwhile, it's like
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: every one of your neighbors has one, comes out, does
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: their own driveway, and then goes back. You know what,
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: That's a good point because I'm out there shoveling, right
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: and these guys are driving by in their pickups, and
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: I tried to like flag them down because I was
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: willing to give somebody one hundred bucks if they did it,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: and they just kept going like f them. Like if
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: I had to, if I had to pick up with
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: a plow, I would be helping people. I'd be like, hey,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: you need a hand. You see something like absolutely hot
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: young ladies struggling with a shoveling bag. Yeah, I'd be
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: like on the way to even if I was doing it,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: i'd stop it. You need a hand just to get
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: it going. I agree that I have a neighbor who
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: does that. He's got to a plow on his Basically
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: he goes around everybody on our street and he'll at
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: least do the entrance, you know, like that's that's a
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: nice snow in the front of your driveway. He clears
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: that out for everybody. Like if someone had actually like
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: stopped to ask what I was waving them down for
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: and they said, no, I was gonna. I was gonna say,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: what would Jesus do if Jesus was driving around at
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: a plow, he'd help me? Come on, friends, all exhausted
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: and sweat and please we do that. We help. The
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: whole street basically is out there at the same time.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a small little cul de sad. Can
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: you know we all do it? Yeah, Like, it's not
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: that I don't understand why. I just and I was
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: willing to pay cash money good, Yeah, I was. I
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: was like getting to the end of ours, which was great.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: Someone did the end where the plow comes to get it,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: because he gets to the end of the driveway and
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: you have that giant round and my next door neighbor
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: was doing it and I up like kind of looking
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: over the shoulder, being like, he's gonna pop over and
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: be like, hey, let me let me finish it. Nope, nothing.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 1: I kept looking back to you're too new to the guests.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: But that took me an hour and forty five minutes.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: If I had a p I'd be looking for every
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: opportunity to use. You know, it's not like it's snows
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: every weekend. Yeah right, right, my god, Alex writes in
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: from the day has finally come at twenty five years old,
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: I find it crazy to imagine football without Tom. He's
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: been part of my of so many great football memories
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I have for the Patriots of his career. I believe
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: he has the same mindset of Bill Belichick a year early,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: over a year late as to why is retiring now?
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: Power to him for knowing himself. Happy retirement, conspiracy. Josh
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: left for Vegas and Kraft told him, if you retire
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: from playing, you can come coach the offense for the Patriots.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: This is like really happening. I just had a friend
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: text me and saying, now these guys are on the
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: radio calling in saying he didn't think the Patriots because
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: he's coming back to be the offensive coordent. He doesn't
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: spend another time. Now he's going to be a coach.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Find the only thing that takes more time than being
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time? Right right, Let's go
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: to Todd North Carolina on the ACE Ticket hot Line.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: What's up, Todd? You guys are simply the best and
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: you've got to understand winter for you guys, is under
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: is okay. But here, as soon as you get skipped
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: a snow, you get these guys with their front jacked
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: up four wheel drive. They put it in four they
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna go, and you watch them stewing a
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: four week wheel skid down the main street. Here is
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: just insane, like killer, dangerous start hands. Well, I think
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm doingious about is the coaching change. So who
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: Josh might takeover? And people have been saying mayo on that,
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: but I was wondering, is this an opportunity for one
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: of the young Belichicks to get out and to get
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: from me, you know, experience outside of the organization, to
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, make his own name so he's
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: not attached to Bill. Would that be a well, you
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: would think, yeah, but if somebody wants to hire exactly, yeah,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: I mean Bill just can't pick up the phone say
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: I are my kid. Yeah. But like, yeah, I mean
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: if if Steve Belle, if Josh wanted Steve Belichick, I
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: think that would be the best thing for Steve Belichick
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: is to go somewhere else to succeed, obviously, rather than
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: under his dad. Yeah, yeah, and I'm with Duce. I'm
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: actually really optimistic about this next year because I think
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: there's a core there for the offense right now was
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: born and I think Algala can contribute a little bit
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: and you know, who knows, maybe can get John who
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: going a little bit, there's not there to get going.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: I just think we need to fix that defense a
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: little bit. But I wonder do we need to have
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: actual somebody named as the as the defensive coach and
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: our OC and a DC or is he I think
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: I'll just going to kind of slide through and say, okay,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: well we'll just shuffle people around. What do you think
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's not as important as somebody
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: actually doing it, you know, because I just think Bill
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: can't do everything. Yeah, I think there is. I think
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: there is um a need to have a title attached
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: to somebody, for somebody to have the account of you
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: can't just you know, nebulously throw around. Well, it's the
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: coaching staffs. I mean, yes, they all contribute to parts
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: of the game plan, but somebody needs to be helped.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: Like every time the offense played poorly, who got blamed? Josh?
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Every time the defense played poorly, who got blamed. I
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: don't know, well what somebody needs to take the blame for.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: But what if all the accountability is internal, like the
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: players know who, then does it matter whether or not
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: we play? Well, that's the thing I said. What if
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: they do know and it doesn't matter what we know?
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: But okay, it's not unusual for Bill to wait a
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: year or two before giving a title to a person
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: to be the coordinator. He did it with Josh, he
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: did wait. But I don't think that has to do
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: with accountability. But this is three years now, right that
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: they didn't have somebody, it seems like it's I got here. Yeah.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I sighed more with Eric on this, and the reason is,
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: and I don't know this to be a fact, Fred,
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: So you could be right. We don't know. But I
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: think there's some confusion in the defensive meeting rooms based
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: on some of the things I've heard, especially this season.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: I think there's some confusion as to which message message
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be heating. I don't think they know
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: who's in charge. Yeah, I think there's some confusion there. Well,
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's why I said, as as long
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: as they know, and I'm not saying they do, but
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: as long as they know, I don't think the titles
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: are that important, but I think it helps to have it. No,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: if there if there's a clear structure established and they
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: know that Steve Belichick is the defensive coordinator, they just
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: don't name them that so we don't know, right, No
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: problem with that, Right. I don't think that's That's all
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. But that might not be. That's happened. It
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: may not be. I think I don't think the players
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: know any more than we do. And if you've got
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: three different people who are sort of collaborating and says
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: to you do this, and Fred says you do that,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: and pols as you do this, problem, who do I
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: listen to? That's a problem, and that's a problem in
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: any walk of life. But I think it's been a problem.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: There is um this year because Eric is right. I
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: think when you talk about Mayo and Steve Belichick, that's
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: only part of it. There's also been Bill Belichick, and
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: there's also Matt Patricia. And I'm wondering if maybe all
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: of these voices have a platform, and yet they're not
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: really sure exactly. If there's messages that are being sent
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: that are different which ones. I mean, I would imagine
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: that they're siding with whatever Bill says, but if it's different,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: that can be tough to deal with. I think that's asually, Paul.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think we've ever really that's been brought up before.
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: And I like it because, you know, somebody like d Mac,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: like Garrett Practice, and Mattie Pete comes over and hey,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: this guy was my defensive quarter We start talking a
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: little bit. You know that's, yeah, that's a little different,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: or you know, I agree. I think that you've had
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: former guys that still have perspectives on the team, but
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: I just think that they're getting so flight that they
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: need to have somebody who can take over the defense
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: and say, we've got to turn this over this offseason.
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: These are gonna have a lot of new pieces. But
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: then offensively the same thing. You've got a young quarterback.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: You're trying to get this offense to a level where
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: you can compete in the AFC. I mean, it's hugely
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: important and to just say well, we're just going to
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: turn it over to you know, the next guy, and
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: we'll hire some young replacement assistance and now these guys
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: all to prove themselves and you know, probably a little
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: bit more on Bill this year. Like that just doesn't
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: seem like a good formula at this stage. At this stage,
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: he seems like he needs to have a couple trusted
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: lieutenants who can run the show like Josh did, oversee
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: everything and step in when he needs to. But I
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: would really like to see a defensive coordinator name I
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: would too. I think it's important I would do. And
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, we went through this a few
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: years ago when not only when Patricia went to Detroit,
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: but then Flores went to Miami the year after that,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: there was a there was a drain from the coaching
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: and personnel continued and you're like, okay, they had enough
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  Speaker 1: people to like promote from within at the time. Now
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: it's even thinner than it was at that point too.
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  Speaker 1: I think they might have that he might be forced
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  Speaker 1: to go outside this time and bring some people. What
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  Speaker 1: what are the protocols? And I mean not actually particle
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: is probably the wrong word. Just what is like the
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  Speaker 1: working agreement where if I'm going to leave my job,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: who you're okay with me taking or you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just weird to think, like if I was like I'm leaving.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take Matt Morrell. I'm gonna take you know,
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  Speaker 1: like and screw your current like And I know that
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you're like, well, we can't offer that guy a
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  Speaker 1: promotion and he's stuck there. And yes, it makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: but I just don't know where the line is for
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  Speaker 1: who's okay to go who's not okay to go? Is
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  Speaker 1: that an explicit conversation where well, we're not gonna mind
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  Speaker 1: if you take coach egg conversation? Yeah, I mean it
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  Speaker 1: came up in twenty nineteen when we went to Miami
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  Speaker 1: and people were wondering, oh, why why did Bill run
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: up the score against the Dolphins in Week two? And
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  Speaker 1: some people at the time, I remember, we're speculating that
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  Speaker 1: Flores took some people from the staff that Bill wasn't
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: happy with and was trying to stick it to him
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  Speaker 1: in that game. Now, whether that's true or not, we
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  Speaker 1: don't know. We weren't privy to that, but that's that
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  Speaker 1: was a conversation to your point, Duce, that was going
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  Speaker 1: on at that time. Absolutely, and for the most part,
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: the guys that leave get promotions, but it's not like
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  Speaker 1: always that case. And I do think I remember that
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  Speaker 1: I think there was some speculation that maybe Bill wasn't
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  Speaker 1: thrilled that Flores took as many guys as he did.
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  Speaker 1: You know who knows yep. Anthony says, it's not weird
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: about what Brady did. He did all his thinking when
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: he left. The Patriots. Man in the Arena is a
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: giant reminisce remember the good old days for the Patriots fans.
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  Speaker 1: He had good things to say when he came back
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  Speaker 1: with Tampa. Tam didn't owe New England anything more than
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: what he gave us. Let him enjoy his moment with
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: his current team. He will always be a Patriot no
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 1: matter who he puts on his ig. I agree that
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: he didn't know anybody anything, yep, But you can't agree
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: that the explanation doesn't make any sense. Again, he thanked
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: everybody but the Patriots and nothing. I'm not I've not
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: heard one argument yet that makes me think, oh yeah,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: that's plausible. It's not like the Patriots when he left,
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 1: and I know the man in the arena, there was
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: one of the I think it was after the Rams one.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: That's the last Rams one. He really did have some
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: verbal bouquets to throw at Robert in Bill's direction. So
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: does that mean like you've exhausted all of your things?
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: I can't. You can still say thank How many times
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: are I to think? Like? Right? Well, he spent I
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 1: addressed that statement that I made a previous thing. I
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: think we've already talked about that his own. Kevin and
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: Dublin sat to hear Paul's leaving Patriots Unfiltered for the
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: brand new show called NFL Unfiltered, where he won't be
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 1: bothered by fans of one team who keep talking about
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: their own team. Uh. In all, in all seriousness, I'm
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: looking forward to this super Bowl. It has been a
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: good postseason. Well after the wildcard round at least, do
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: you think the NFL will feel justified in their playoff expansion? Well,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: the first round wasn't great, right, I mean there were
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of blowouts. But it's just the second year
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: of the playoff expansion. You know that, right, I know
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: the Patriots didn't make that. Again, I gotta fill you
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: know what my bad. I gotta fil Patriots fans in
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: on something. In twenty twenty, the NFL expanded to seven
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: playoff teams per conference. The Patriots weren't one of them.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: So you might not know that this is the second
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: year of playoff expansion and Seduce's point the wild card
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: games were crap. Yeah, the last two weeks have been
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. I think they would take that. They would
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: look at it as a wild success. And I also
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: think the fact that both number one seeds lost I
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: think they like that, especially this year. You can make
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: an argument that green Bay was one of the best teams,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: but I don't think you can really make an argument
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: that Tennessee was. So I think they look at him
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: as Yeah. I think they're happy the way that that
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: unpredictability worked out. Absolutely Yeah. I think uh Goodell was
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: having a great weekend these last two weekends. I forgot
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: about that tweet Joe Burrow when he was that is
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: that the senior bowl of the combined? Yeah? I think
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: it was at the scene considering retirement after seeing the
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: sweets about my small hand. We'll slip out of my
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: tiny hand. Keep me in your thoughts. He's like Hansel
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: and uh now does he he's hot? Brow? I ask
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: you about Joe Burrow, though I do so, I already
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: know your Your answer to this would be like that
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: previous email, Um, do you think he runs the risk of. Okay,
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: I'm a little tired of that act at this point,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 1: like right now, Like, what could I not like it
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: work for Joe Namath? Does he run the risk of
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: if he doesn't it getting old? You mean, yeah, like
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: if if if like the act is like d who
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: is it an act? It might not be an act
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: if it's not an act. If it's an act, it
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: will Okay. Why do you have to take everything so literally? Okay?
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: Because you called it an act? Okay, So I didn't
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: mean it like he was he was performing. I mean
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 1: his personality, this could be great on you. Yes, I
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: think it could. Yes, I think it is who he is. Okay,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: all right, let's especially if he doesn't win, if he
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't back it up. The fact that he's backing it
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: up makes it cool. And he's new. There isn't like
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: you know, and he's not the outfits. Yeah, it's new
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: and it's different, so everybody it's like Tony Romo three
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, it was new and different. Now everybody
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: hates them until you win too much. Well, and if
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: you're still kind of that you know, cock of the
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: walk attitude every post. I like the guy I always
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: liked the guy, and I think he is going to
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: be really good. I'm wondering if some people might find
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: it a little bit yeah, tiresome after a while. Not
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: Bengals fans, but not anybody else Bengals. Bengals fans won't
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: won't grow tired of it. They shouldn't. Yeah, unless he
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: doesn't win, right uh Joe and Michigan wants to. He says,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: I think Josh leaving will be a breath of freshness.
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: Mac will blossom in year two. Wow, that's that's that
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: is a line of thinking, like people, some people don't
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: like Josh. The amount of people after, I might point out,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, sort of established that Josh was
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: leaving that we're excited about it was was impressive. Yeah,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: the amount of people that was just like, good, we
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: got a good we got a good offensive. What is
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: the next person I get to hate? I mean at
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: the offensive quarterback, the guy that I should be happy finally? Yeah. Right.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: It is a funny dynamic that draws on third and twelve.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: Josh is going from like wouldn't want to be scoring anymore?
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: Those macs like best buddy, like come care to help
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: you get to the NFL, and I'm gonna, you know,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: through your first year, I'm here for you, and then
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: next year he's gonna be like, so this is how
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: we have to destroy Mac Jones, Like that's this is
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: the way the league goes. But it's just kind of
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: funny to think like he was, you know, everything to
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: Mac probably this year, and now he's he's gonna have
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: to figure out a where to slow him down and
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: stop him. All right, what have we done? Yeah, I'm breathless.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: We have three minutes. It was quite a show. What's
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: going to happen the next day or two? So do
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: you think there's any chance that you know, like we
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: we talked at the McDaniel's decision to go to the Raiders,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and everybody's like the Raiders really that like
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 1: he waited all this time, just specially crafted decision the Raiders.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: Do you think it says anything about what he feels
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: about what he's leaving behind that he was willing to
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: go there as opposed to staying here. Yeah, like like
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: you can only go down from there. But see, that's
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: the thing. I think I think he's being a little disingenuous,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: Josh when he says you know, I was very selective,
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: and I don't think he had a lot of I
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: think he really wanted to be a head coach again,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: and I don't think he had a lot of offers.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: I agree a thousand percent what you just said. I
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 1: think the only reason why he got this offer is
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: because of his IGLO. Any right, And he came out
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: in that ESPN story a couple of years ago saying
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: about how much he'd changed since he left him. Remember
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: that he was not in a position to be turning
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: down jobs right now, in a position to be rediculous.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 1: That's right. So we'll lend it on there. He's not
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: a Patriot anymore. I can kick him on now. I
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: like Josh, and I like Josh everything that he has
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: done for the Patriots, and I also like Matt Patricia
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: personally too. All right, that's gonna be um. These guys
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: will be back Thursday. I'm not. I'm gonna be away
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. I'll be back Tuesday, though, So
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: get through Thursday. I'll be back Tuesday. All right. Thanks
• 1:59:06
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