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The One Where Lala Has An Epic Halloween Costume Fail · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hello, my gorgeous little villains or seductors. Whenever you were
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: for Halloween. How was your Halloween? Jest?
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  Speaker 2: My Halloween was so good. But now it's November two,
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: so all I can think about is Christmas. But my
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: Halloween was great?
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  Speaker 1: What did you do? I never think about Halloween, even
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  Speaker 1: on Hallow.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, the dressing up for me
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  Speaker 1: is like torture. Is seductor a word? Seductor?
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it is, because what would it be
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  Speaker 2: like seductee yeah, seductress. I don't know, seductress. It's probably
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  Speaker 2: that it's probably that you looked awesome.
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  Speaker 1: No, I didn't. Well, Logan comes over because Schroeder told
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  Speaker 1: me that she's having a Halloween party. Okay for me,
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  Speaker 1: I remember like, yes, you're having a Halloween party, but
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  Speaker 1: I just assumed like Hartford would be in bed. Yeah, no, kids,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring my ass out because she deserves a moment.
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  Speaker 2: I know you said to me, you're like sexy adult
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  Speaker 2: Halloween party. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, there were definitely children there and Jeremiah, one of
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  Speaker 1: our producers with Sareny and his kids, and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Wait because your ass was out.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like, laala, I've known you for a
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  Speaker 1: really long time. I would never expect you to show
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  Speaker 1: up anywhere with your ass cupboard.
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  Speaker 2: So I thought it looked amazing. You were the joker?
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  Speaker 2: Is that what it was?
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  Speaker 1: No, you were refereen.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you were? You can I can't.
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  Speaker 1: People were like, are you supposed to be a sexy inmate?
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  Speaker 1: I was like no, so I was supposed to be Beetlejuice.
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  Speaker 1: But because I don't like Halloween, didn't try it on. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it comes with the green bay. I put it on,
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  Speaker 1: was like a nerve, Hell no, will you can in
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  Speaker 1: that streets with this wig on? So Logan was over.
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  Speaker 1: I put it on and we were both like nerd, nerd,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not I take it off. I was like, fuck this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm wearing street clothes and he was like, no, just
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  Speaker 1: wear the costume with your hair normal. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't washed my hair in like six days. So
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: it was like put it up and I was like,
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: thank god we got the earpinned back for moments like yes,
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  Speaker 1: we got it.
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  Speaker 2: You know that's my favorite hairstyle when you do the
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  Speaker 2: top bun with the banks. Yeah, it's like Pam Anderson.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's something. It gives something that it was.
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  Speaker 1: Giving whatever here I am. I don't care. Like the
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  Speaker 1: last time I dressed up for Halloween, I was twenty
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  Speaker 1: one years old. I wore a blue like eminem costumes.
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  Speaker 2: When it was a big round one, yes, not a
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  Speaker 2: sixty one.
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  Speaker 1: And it was from when I was a little kid.
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  Speaker 1: It just happened to fit's still a little shorter. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think my ask may have been out then.
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  Speaker 2: To okay, so it was somewhat sexy.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the foot covering is like the big
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  Speaker 1: I wore those and the hand gloves.
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 1: It was awesome and I never I haven't dressed up
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  Speaker 1: since then until this year, and this was a reminder
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  Speaker 1: that I'm never doing it again. Yeah, until Ocean expresses
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  Speaker 1: interest in her mom dressing up for Halloween. When Ocean like,
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  Speaker 1: if Ocean loves Halloween and she wants me to dress up,
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  Speaker 1: then I totally will do it. But until them, like
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  Speaker 1: I said.
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  Speaker 2: Ner, well, I know today we're recording this on Halloween,
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  Speaker 2: but did are you going to take her trick or
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  Speaker 2: treating or do you think? I mean, she doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: eat candy, so don't you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, if she's with her Gigi, she consumes a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sugar. I was like, fucking stop it, mom, what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? But that's the corner of my eye,
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  Speaker 1: like slipping her calling candy. I'm like, enough enough of
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  Speaker 1: it already.
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  Speaker 2: That's what grandparents are for. I know.
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  Speaker 1: But my mom lives with me. Yeah, so it's in
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  Speaker 1: every like yeah, not every day because I would lose
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  Speaker 1: my mind, but it's like an often thing where she's like,
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  Speaker 1: she just wants a bite. I'm like, I know, but
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  Speaker 1: she's so young that she's not gonna like spinach anymore
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  Speaker 1: because she's gonna want the cotton candy instead.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Like, why am I gonna eat this green stuff
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  Speaker 2: when they're cotton candy exists?
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  Speaker 1: When I know there's cookies in the cabinet, Why the
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  Speaker 1: fuck would I eat this?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Right, So you're not gonna take her trigger tree, I.
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  Speaker 1: Said, you know again, I hate that. I gotta stop. No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we'll do trigger treating. I think we'll
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  Speaker 1: just go over to Stosse's house and chill. I've heard
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  Speaker 1: that when they're like two to two and a half
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  Speaker 1: is when trigger treating is fun, Like, right, now. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she just wants to hang out with her friends. M
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  Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. Cute. Yeah. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: this weekend, great ass was out totally fine, failed on
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  Speaker 1: the wig whatever. I don't care, bailed on the wig.
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  Speaker 1: How has the Weird Weird whatever?
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  Speaker 2: It's called a weird emo concert?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I got dms being like, what did Laala say about
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  Speaker 2: this when you told her you were going. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: she said, I have no idea any of those bands
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  Speaker 2: besides like Avril Levine, who didn't show by the way, No, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't know if that was planned and she
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  Speaker 2: was only planning the first weekend. But I went to
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  Speaker 2: We Were Young Fest in Vegas. It was everything I
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  Speaker 2: was expecting. I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting
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  Speaker 2: a lot. I was like, there's too many people, it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be unorganized. That scared me for you, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, this is the first year they're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: They're probably gonna run out of merch, run out of food,
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  Speaker 2: run out of drinks. They had it on. It was
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  Speaker 2: like shockingly organized.
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  Speaker 1: Wif because no one wanted to.
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  Speaker 2: Go literally packed, it was packed. There were a couple
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  Speaker 2: times where I was standing in the crowd because Kyle
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  Speaker 2: likes hard more like hardcore stuff and people who actually
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  Speaker 2: love hardcore and screaming, Yeah, they're gonna be hearing me
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  Speaker 2: and be like that is not a hardcore band. But
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  Speaker 2: to me, like Knocked Loose and Glass Jaw, they're like
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  Speaker 2: screaming a lot and then a pitch forms, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: people are like smashing into each other. And a couple
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  Speaker 2: of times I told Kyle because we were upfront, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, we gotta we gotta go in the back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I saw your story this morning. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: with like the lot of people, Yeah, that's ho for me.
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  Speaker 2: It would have been your nightmare to be.
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  Speaker 1: It looked like my nightmare. It looks like my nightmare.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean overall, obviously, overall, we were safe
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  Speaker 2: and it was very organized and everyone had a great
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  Speaker 2: time and it was a lot of fun. And I
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: got to see Paramore my chemical romance and I was
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  Speaker 2: living for it.
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  Speaker 1: I know one, I know one, param what's that song? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I chimed in with the haven't you people I love
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  Speaker 1: that song? Wait, no, that's panic at the discos and
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  Speaker 1: everyone what's the song that everyone knows a paramore.
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  Speaker 2: I love that song. I chimed in, that's a great paramo.
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  Speaker 1: I know that that's panic at the disco. What's the
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  Speaker 1: paramour song that everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Knows, the one that everyone knows. I guess it's probably
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  Speaker 2: like Misery Business, that's the one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, yep, yep yep. So there's that. Also, did
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  Speaker 1: you see Kyle Richard's Lady Gun Shoot?
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  Speaker 2: Wait?
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  Speaker 1: No, when I heard of Lady Gun before? No, I
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  Speaker 1: have no idea what this Lady Gun is a magazine.
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  Speaker 1: I did a shoot for them, Like I want to say,
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  Speaker 1: I hadn't even I don't even think I had been
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: on vander Palm Rules or like my season hadn't aired yet.
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  Speaker 1: So this shows how long ago it was. And I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to like post my Lady Gun photos because I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I look so fucking snatched, do you know no?
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  Speaker 1: Because then I was like, this is attension seeking, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Like in honor of Kyle Richard's Lady Gun Shoot, here's mine.
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  Speaker 2: Do you have them? Because at one we should post
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  Speaker 2: on the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And I have a little baby face. It was before
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  Speaker 1: my like injections. It was before you.
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  Speaker 2: Had the round babyface, that round and drinking so I
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  Speaker 2: was probably still drinking.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I had fully fully submersed myself into
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  Speaker 1: alcoholism at that point in time, but we were well
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  Speaker 1: on our way. Is that a word submerse? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm immersed, immersed and submerge is immersed a word immerse? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Did her lady Gun?
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  Speaker 1: She looked snatched? Did she looked freaking hot? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Immersed is dip or submerge in a liquor?
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  Speaker 1: Submerge? Isn't that what I said?
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  Speaker 2: Submerge? I think you said submersed.
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  Speaker 1: So you wow. I didn't go to college.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: I did, and I still don't know these words. Submerge
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  Speaker 2: is cause to be underwater, completely cover, or obscure, So
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  Speaker 2: submerge it is Kyle Richard's lady Gun. So then if
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  Speaker 2: you're listening to this, which you obviously are, you would
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  Speaker 2: not be hearing me right now. But we will post
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  Speaker 2: those photos.
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  Speaker 1: They're really cute on the podcast in Sexie, Yeah, like
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Twenty three, twenty four, just freaking snatch.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I was a little older than that. I can't remember. Anyway.
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  Speaker 1: I had a date night with with Katie over the
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  Speaker 1: weekend on Friday because my mom went back to Utah
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  Speaker 1: for Halloween to see her two other grand babies. Okay, fun,
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  Speaker 1: and Katie and I went to this spot in the
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  Speaker 1: valley and everyone was on a date and had a partner. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So we were looking at each other like, well, this
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  Speaker 1: is fun. I was like, I love being on a
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  Speaker 1: date with you, Katie. And then we started talking about
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  Speaker 1: like dudes and our type of guys, and you know,
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: when we're talking to new dudes, we like will send
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  Speaker 1: each other like their Instagram handles you have to. And
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  Speaker 1: I told her I just don't think my type of guy,
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  Speaker 1: like this is what I'm looking for and this is
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  Speaker 1: just my type. Because She's like, I want to take
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  Speaker 1: you to Silver Lake and I was like, my type
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  Speaker 1: of guy don't exist in silver Lake.
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  Speaker 2: That's true. I think Katie's type what I know of
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  Speaker 2: Katie exist, her type exists in Silver Lake.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, So you want to know what her comeback was?
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: We need to reevaluate your type of guy.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, what do you think about that?
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  Speaker 1: Stupid? Like, I don't know, it's stupid in a way. Probably, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I love a dude who's emotionally unavailable. Okay, Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: love a guy who goes to me plenty of those
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  Speaker 1: in Silver Lake. You can tell you that much like
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Yeah, love a guy
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  Speaker 1: who's like not really around that much. But then I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling I'm telling her this is what I want.
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  Speaker 2: When you say this is what I want? Do you
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  Speaker 2: say those things? Are you saying? This is what I want?
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  Speaker 2: Someone emotionally available, all the things that you're not actually.
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  Speaker 1: All of the things that I say I want. I
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  Speaker 1: go for dudes who are the opposite of that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so what do you want.
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  Speaker 1: I would like a guy who's very simple. I want consistency,
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  Speaker 1: and I want transparency. I'm easy, all right. I've really
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: that I wasn't easy in my last relationship because I
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  Speaker 1: was unhappy. So I was on ten all the time
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  Speaker 1: in a real, normal relationship where I'm not triggered by
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  Speaker 1: someone by my person just breathing. I'm fucking easy, keep
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  Speaker 1: it real, be consistent. And by the way, there are
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  Speaker 1: dudes that I'm talking to right now where the groundwork
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  Speaker 1: was laid of being inconsistent, so I know what I'm
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  Speaker 1: in for. We can go three days, five days, thirty
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  Speaker 1: days without speaking, and maybe it's because those dudes I
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: started talking to at like the very beginning of my
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: I'm fresh out of the torture chamber, so it was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't need to talk to every day, but I
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  Speaker 1: understand the assignment with that, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's my question. Do you think you're going for
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  Speaker 2: emotionally unavailable subconsciously or no? Like, because you know subconsciously
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  Speaker 2: that you're like not ready to be in a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: So you might because if you had a guy who's
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  Speaker 2: transparent and consistent to me, you might get in a
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  Speaker 2: relationship within the next few months. But is that not
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  Speaker 2: true because that's just me going off of how I
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  Speaker 2: would act.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I think you're right. And Chris
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  Speaker 1: Medina told me, he said, you have so much healing
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  Speaker 1: to still do that the chances of you opening yourself
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  Speaker 1: up to a relationship right now, there's a very high
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  Speaker 1: chance that you could welcome in toxicity because you've been
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  Speaker 1: dealing with it for so long that it feels familiar
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: and your brain starts firing when toxicity comes into play
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: because it's familiar to you, right, So that part really
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  Speaker 1: freaks me out. And I think, even though I know
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  Speaker 1: that I want to be in a relationship and I
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  Speaker 1: want to find my person. I just think timing is everything,
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  Speaker 1: and I just don't think it's the right time.
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  Speaker 2: Not the right time.
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  Speaker 1: I have too much that needs to get done before
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  Speaker 1: I can open myself up to someone. And again we
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  Speaker 1: spoke about this last week. Time has done a lot
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  Speaker 1: of my healing, but there's going to be a moment
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  Speaker 1: where I need to start talking to someone to really
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  Speaker 1: unpack things so that when I go out and I'm
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  Speaker 1: ready to date someone and let someone into my world,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a healthy human being. Yeah, because I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be. I don't want to meet someone and have
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  Speaker 1: be my mind firing every time. It's like it gets
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  Speaker 1: a little bit inconsistent where it's like this feels this
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  Speaker 1: is where I thrive because this is familiar. That's like
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  Speaker 1: not what I want.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that makes sense. And just in my personal opinion,
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  Speaker 2: just because I talk to girlfriends who I hear this
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  Speaker 2: all the time, who are single, and you'll hear a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people be like, well, that's not how men
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  Speaker 2: are these days. You just have to be okay with
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  Speaker 2: like inconsistency. But to me, I'm like, absolutely not, that's
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  Speaker 2: not of Like, that's not I was just talking to
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  Speaker 2: a girl single girlfriend back at home about this, and
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  Speaker 2: she was like, that's just how guys are, and I
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  Speaker 2: just have to be okay with that. Like if I
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  Speaker 2: don't hear from him for you know, four or five days,
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  Speaker 2: then fine. And I'm like, in my opinion, I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you don't have to settle for that. Sure, maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: how a lot of younger men are, like twenties, thirties,
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  Speaker 2: even forties these days, but there are also lots of
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  Speaker 2: men out there who are not like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's like saying you're not going to find a
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  Speaker 1: girl who doesn't post ass photos, right, which I very
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  Speaker 1: much do that. But it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: But I have a kind heart, nice ass and kind heart.
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  Speaker 2: What more could you want?
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: What more could you ask for? What more?
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: Are you watching any Real Housewives? I'm the worst person.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: For this, No, but I get I keep up with
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: the info from a mister Bubbs.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, which the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills reunion
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: the last one family aired? What did mister Bubbs have
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: to say about it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I haven't talked to him about it yet.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Well, Kathy Hilton made an appearance.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, you tell me what you think, and then I'll
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: talk to mister Pupps about it because many listeners are
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: like love when she talks about housewives, and I do
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: not want to take this away from you from them.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: So I love Lisa Rinna and I feel like she's
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: getting She's definitely trigger happy when it comes to her
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and things like that, and there's so many people
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  Speaker 1: that again, it goes back to like why are you
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: tuning in? Like if Lisa Rinna tones it down, why
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: are you tuning in what you gonna watch?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Where's the drama?
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: Where's the drama? Where's the feisty? You may not dig her,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: but you at least need to say thank you for
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: making something happen this season. Right, You always have to
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: have someone who is not afraid to talk. And everyone
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: wants to say that she ran people off the show. No, no, no, no,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: no no.
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  Speaker 2: I did see that. I saw a lot of memes
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: that were like, look at all the amazing people she's
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  Speaker 2: run off the show.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: The victims. Yes, okay, that's careful with that fucking worder. Yeah, careful,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, everyone knows what they signed up for
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: when they start doing reality TV. Your skeletons could be
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: brought out. You have to be okay with that whether
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: and by the way, Kathy Hilton love her. She adds
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: like a lightness to the show. Right, that's really funny,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: like Honky Dory talking about it was the toe that
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: broke the camel's back.
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  Speaker 2: I did see that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: The fuck are you talking about? This is awesome?
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I know that broke the camels.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: We're confusing camel toe with straws breaking camel's backs. But
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  Speaker 1: who am I the fuck to judge you because I
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: don't know the difference between submerse, submerge and emerge immer
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: just combine them all. I liked it. Yeah, but again,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that happen in Hollywood that
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: people know, and it gets tricky. It gets tricky because
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it's like what's real what's not real? And it's hard
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: because Erica Jane wants to step in for her friend
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Lisa Renna, right, but people are like, she doesn't have
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: any credibility.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Not Yeah, and do you think I do have a couple?
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: Number One, is Kathy coming back next season? Do we
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: know that? Do you think she will?
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: She said she wasn't.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: No, did she say that on the reunion.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I just saw something on Instagram that said she's not
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: coming back.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Okay. And number two, do you think Kathy, like you
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just said, you know what you sign up for when
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: you get on a reality TV show. Do you think
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: Kathy knew or do you think maybe she thought, oh,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: this will be a fun.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I think some people think they're above things. Okay, this
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: could never happen to me, right, look at all the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Look at what I have. I can shut it all down, right,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: And we've seen even the most powerful fall. Yeah, the
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: richest and the most powerful fall. Like so that way
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: of thinking, you shouldn't do reality TV. If you think
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you're untouchable, don't do reality TV because the second you
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: sign that contract, it doesn't matter. Like right, they they'll
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: expose it all. What I will say, though, is when
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: you have a tough season, if you're a reality TV personality,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: don't let it drive you out because next year something
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: else will happen. Someone else is going to be the villain.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Someone else is gonna have a storyline they were gonna be.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: It won't carry on to the next season because you
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: got to end it because it's not interesting anymore. Just
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: like if Lucy Lucy Apple Juicy continued on to the
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: next season. We'd all be like, got it. We don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: give a fuck at this point, who was in the
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: right or wrong? Bring me something new and fresh.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: And I learned that when I left season five, when
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I ran away and I was like, I can't do this. Now,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: you got a bad season. Quiet the noise, stay off
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: the phone, don't look at the comments. If you don't
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: see it, it doesn't exist. Yeah, go back, take the opportunity,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: have fun and realize like this time will come to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: an end at some point, whether you leave or not.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Nothing lasts forever. So take it by the balls and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: fucking enjoy it.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: That's really good advice. You should write a book on that,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Like so you want to be on reality TV? Question
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Mark by La la Ken.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Seriously, because I think of all the reality TV that's
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: a great because my thought would be if you're a
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: villain one season on reality TV, that kind of sticks
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: with you.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: No, but you're saying you kind of go up and down,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: in and out. It's like you do.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just like Lisa vander Pump always told me, it's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: things go away, no one remembers, and then you rewatch
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: og episodes of people freaking out, like when I had
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Season seven happen where I was calling re Calibambi eyed
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: bitch and all of these things. People were coming for me, Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: calling me pretty horrific things. Now when I post that shit, people.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Like this was iconic planic.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I know, yes, your shit will turn to iconic. So
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you just there's a very it's an art.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not everyone. No, I could never. I would be
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: the most boring reality TV person. But there are also
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: reality TV stars that I'm like, how I don't get
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: the four I don't understand the formula yet because I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: look at someone like you and I'm like done. If
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I were a producer, i'd cast her on any reality
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: TV show. But there are other people I watch that
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: I'm like, huh, people love them. I don't get why. Yeah,
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: there's something about them that like people just love and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I don't necessarily understand it, right, So I don't know.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: It's interesting. You have to have it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Garcel is the perfect example. Yeah, she's always the voice
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: of reason. She has these little one liners that are like, Okay,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you just smoked this bitch right with one and it
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't even that mean, but you like literally put her
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: six feet deep.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, Gara, What I mean, Garcel? That mister Bubbs
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: did tell me Garcel's he goes. Oh, she's a fan
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: favorite the season.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: She's a fan favorite. She always will be because she
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is level headed. She has that face that she makes
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: when that her her look will just like when she's done,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: your show's on her face and that's all we need
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: to see.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's powerful. When I see her on the show,
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: or see her photos or see her anywhere in like
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: paparazzi videos, I like get like a Oh, I get
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: taken aback.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: And she she commands a room when she walks in.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: That's she commands a room. That's exactly what it is. Oh.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this real quick because we
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: were doing opening titles and I did it with Katie
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and Arianna, and I just got really excited about the
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: show coming out. I'm like, I feel because again, I'm
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: a huge reality TV fan. So even though I'm a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: part of it and it gets intense, it's like I
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: know that when someone has a fucking meltdown or whatever,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, I don't wait to see it because
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I love it so much. And I and I know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like even when I watch for example, Derinda Medley and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: her clip clipped, and I know that feeling when you're
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in scene and you're like, because that's just who we are,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that's why we're on a show. Yeah, I just I'm like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: I don't fuck with you, bitchy, but like I can't
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: wait to see that shit.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, no, that's exciting. And we haven't talked since the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: opening titles? How did it go? I know you can't
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: talk about a ton, but obviously, for anyone who doesn't know,
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: opening titles are the opening titles, they're the.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Iconic, iconic. It's completely different than what people are used to.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, you looked incredible and you posted a photos fucking amazing.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Well thank god Katie took photos and then I asked
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: her because she was like, I'm gonna post and I
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: was like, I have no content ever because these bitches
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: get to it before I do and it's always on
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: their phone and I love and I'm like, damn, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: look good, send them to me and it's for them
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: to post. So I said, can you just include me?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: Yes? Yeah, because they do the clap thing.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Can you just clap me? So she did. But Katie
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: and I, by the way, Arianna and Katie looked unbelievable.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I told Katie the next date you go on like
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: this got to be the look. Yes, and she was
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: like really with the red lip. I said, no, forget
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: fucking red lip that I neutral lip. Get the tits up.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You're gonna have a husband. You look like this, You're
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: gonna have a fucking husband. She always looks stunning, but
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: this was like a vibe Ariana's makeup. I told her,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: this is the look that you like. This would be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: my go to? Which would be my go to? And
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the colors all looked incredible next to make each other.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So we start talking as we're waiting to start, and
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, I just can't wait for this season,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: like Katie and I are planning watch parties and like
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: this is the drill. And Ariana was like, I can
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: definitely wait. And I said what why? And she was
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: talking about how affected she gets when the show starts airing.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And that's where the fine line comes in because I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: told her stop looking at shit people say to you,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: and she said I can. It's like I seek it out.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: I try to find like mean comments, and I'm like,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: why would anyone want to do that to themselves because
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: it's interesting. I get a lot of love in the dms,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: like it is few and far between that I'm getting
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: people ripping me a new one. I'm sure Ariann has
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: looked the same, because for the most part, people are normal.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: There's not just a bunch of psychos in the world
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: writing you hate mail. I write no.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Time on their hair, it's trolls.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, So she's one that gets very affected when
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: the season starts airing, will I have a good season?
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: What will people say? How will they say? I look
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm looking at her, going like, you're one of
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the most beautiful people in that I've ever seen. Yes,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: your body is like if I had that body with
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: that ass, Oh, forget it, spandex every fucking day done
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: is like I be throwing it bitch night. Yeah. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: she's just struggling.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: And it's so and it's so sad because she's obviously
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: she came on tour and we had dinner together, so
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I got to know her a little over dinner and
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're just the chillist bitch.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I've ever met. Oh, she's so fucking so kind.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But and then there's these losers that hate themselves at
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: home so right, and then they decide. But it's like,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I wish I could just convince everyone, like literally the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: negative comments or actual losers who hate themselves. Yeah, and
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: they're trying to make others feel they have no time
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: on their hands. I feel so sad for any of
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: their dogs or kids. And I'm just gonna say that
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: because so many of them. I click on their profile
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and it's either a little kid in their photo or
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: a fucking dog, and I'm like, I feel so bad
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: for your dog and your kids to have to live
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: with someone like you.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: No, I know I feel the same way, and that
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: makes me so sad.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And they got to affect her, but she won't not
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: look at them, and some people just have to see it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: Some people have to see it, and I hate that
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: for her, But I kept telling her, like you are.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it's important. This is one thing
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: that I think I would change about myself. I can
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: build you up to where you think you to where
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you know like you're the baddest thing walking this earth, Right,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I build a bit chop Right when someone doesn't act
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: right and they come for me, I won't make you
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: feel good.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: But I'm just curious, what would you rather? You would
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: rather just be able to turn.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I'd rather be a Garcel. Oh okay, I'd rather be
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: a Garcel above it, above it, and and say how
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you make me feel and that I'm disengaging like a
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Meredith Marx, and instead I decide to just fucking Tornado.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: You're to the crownd. But I'm hoping that that will
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: change with age.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it goes back to though.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Also it is just interesting to watch. Granted, I get
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: what you're saying though, because Garcel can do it where
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: she's like, I'm disengaging, and it's still like, like I
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: feel empowered when I watch it. She does say, yeah,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: but there.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Was this woman who slid in my DM over the weekend.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: All you hate a lot of you hating people are women,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm just like, get your shit's.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Old, Like she's got to be pushing eighty right, okay,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: And she looked her profile picture looked like like a
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: sweet old lady. So I decided to open it. She
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: goes off on me because you know, I'm a poster
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: bring the motherfucking dogs out, So she blah blah, blah.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I won't even read the first part. Men look at
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that like what I'm posting, and they don't want what
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: they see get me. I'm an old retired executive. See
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: even Lily makes no noise. Bring the fucking dogs out
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: will get me. I'm an old retired executive that weeded
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: my way to the best man out there, every man
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: wind and diyed me. Men, see that crazy disrespectful behavior
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: makes you look ugly af frfr I assume that means
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: for real, for real? Oh, she said, I was you,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: so I told her. I said, Yo, Pam, you think
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about what a man sees and thinks. What
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: an old school in sad mentality. You coaching me on
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: how to stay silent to bag a man? We would
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not get along. You live for the approval of others.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I live for me. I hope one day you can
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: have what I have. It's a shame you don't already
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: at your age. She responds, yes, response bring the dogs out, bit, Yes,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: she responds, listen here, Lauren again, Lauren, ain't an insult.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: You guys think it's an insult. It's not. I'm aware
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of my name, but some of you call me Lauren,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and that is not my name. Yeah, my name is Lauren.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: From fucking Utah. I thought that was like a compliment,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: like because you said it at your beauty party. When
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I first You're like, I'm Lauren from Lauren from Utah,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: and I was like, yes, people use that as an insult.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: All the time. People think it's an insult, and it's like,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: it's john if you think that. I just like one
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: day was like, I'm gonna be fucking la la Yeah,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: no nickname from my friends actually when I was a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: little kid. Anyway, moving on stupid board, I have been
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: married for twenty one years. I drive a Benz, live
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: in waterfront at the Jersey Shore. My hubs works for
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: the state, and I'm retired. You're reaching for what I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: have already, little Lauren. Remember that. I'm so cressed because
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: I know. I know. First of all, let me know
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: when you're driving a Rolls Royce and living in fucking
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Beverly Hills, betch right. First of all, Okay, proud of you,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: very proud you drive a Benz, you're retired, you live
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: on Jersey Shore.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Like that sounds I'm not proud of you.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So I wrote her back and said again, everything you
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: mentioned are things you find self worth in the wrong places.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: You have nothing I want that. She writes a response back.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It's all fucking stupid what she says. I'm proud of
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: you for your bens and your Jersey short waterfunt problems.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: That's Laa being kind. I don't give a fuck about
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: any of your shit, like you say. You say I've
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: been married for twenty years. There have been women and
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: men married for fifty years who have never been more
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: miserable in their marriages, right that, like anything, you just
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: anything and everything. There are people with the rolls royices,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: with the mansions, with the husbands of fifty years, who
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: are fucking miserable. And that's exactly what I feel from her.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Miserable or she wouldn't be messaging you, Pame, your life
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: is so great? What are you doing dming lalla about
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: a photo she posted or whatever?
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: That batch on TV? That's the only reason you know me. Yeah,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: you're fucking welcome. I'm on your TV. I hear a
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: beachfront property in Jersey Shore. All right, I'm embarrassed for you. No,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I was embarrassed for her too, because I'm like, you're
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: talking about things, which, by the way, I had a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: lot of things. Yeah, I still have a lot of things. Yeah,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: And guess what, I'm no happier now. Actually, I'm a
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: lot happier now than I was when I was sitting
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: at my parents' house in Utah saying I have big
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: dreams and I'll be happy when I accomplished them. Guess what,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: I've accomplished them. And I have had more her oil
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: in my life than I've ever had ever. Right, And
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: I could go out and buy you know, go get
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a new car. I could go buy a bens pant. Yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I could do that.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I that's exactly what exactly. You sit here
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: and you could go do those things, but you choose
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: to do other things with your time. It's like your
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: love language's quality time. I guarantee if someone were to
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: sit you down and say, la, La, did you feel like, oh,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm living big when or I did it when
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: you got your first Burkeen? Maybe, but it's not like
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to this day you're hanging onto that feeling. If I
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: could just get another Burkin, I would have really made
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: it Like, No, you have the Burkins, and I'm sure
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: it means more to you. You going to a pumpkin
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: patch with the ocean. You know what I'm saying. It's
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: like yeah.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, show me something. I learned this in AA.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Surround yourself with people who have what you want, and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: that goes well beyond just sobriety, like when I'm sitting
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: in a room. So I went to an AA meeting
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: on Friday, and I got my birthday cake because on
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: my actual fourth birthday, I had Ocean and I just
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I wanted to spend time with her. I wanted to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: go and play at Universal. So I went to my
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: AA meeting and got my cake, and my sponsor brought
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: me my four year chip Cara, thank you.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And the speaker had been sober for thirty five years,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: and she said surround yourself with people who have what
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you want. And I was sitting there listening because people
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: would introduce themselves and give their amount of time, and
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, I kept finding myself saying I want that.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I want thirty five years. Yeah, I want. This woman
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: talking about how she stayed sober through the pandemic and
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: wanted to like bury herself because she was like, my
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: family is driving me fucking insane.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Feel you.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was like, I want that. I want to
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: be in a house with my family where I'm like,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you're rubbing me, its fucking my way. But I've been
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: sober for eighteen years and you motherfucker are.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Not going to ruin that for me, you know, Yes, Yes,
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: that's the shit that matters.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, you talking about your things. I don't care. I've
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: had so many things, all right. I've been on pj's,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I've been in twenty five thousand square foot like Ocean
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: View Mexican mansions. I have done and had a lot
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: of beautiful things in my life that no, I may
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: not have paid for. My partner was paying for those things.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that I look around and
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, how am I affording to like do what
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I'm doing right now? It doesn't fucking matter. I want happiness,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: I want freedom, I want self love. I want to
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: make a difference in this world. I want to help
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: someone who's in a toxic environment be like, you know what,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: I've found strength in that woman. I don't care about
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: your bends in your twenty one year relationship, or your
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: fucking waterfront Jersey Shore whatever. Yep, come to me with substance.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Bitch a a fucking men. And let me tell you
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: all those all those people who are living their life
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: to the fullest and who are happy, are not negatively
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: sliding in your DMS. So that's how you know, Pam,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I'm are you're so We're sorry, you're so miserable, and
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: I hope you find happiness because because that is sad.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: That's so sad when people I stop looking at a
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: lot of my DMS, and I know it's not I
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: couldn't even imagine what you see just from the couple
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: of negative comments I see. But literally, when I get
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: and I wish, like going back to Ariana, I wish
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you would feel this way. And I'm sure it's it's
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: different for everyone. When I get a nega, when I
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: get a comment that's like you're so fucking annoying and
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: a ass kisser and all this shit, what honestly it
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: feels like to me. And because I was trying to
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: equate this feeling to something, if you were to look
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: at me, Laala and be like, I fucking hate your
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: blue hair. You look so fucking ugly with blue hair.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: It's disgusting. It makes me sick. I would look at
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you like, oh my god, you're a crazy person. I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: don't have fucking what are you talking about? And I
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: would just feel like a little concerned for you because
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, she thinks I have blue fucking hair?
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Is she okay? And that's literally how I feel when
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: people are like helping at me, I'm like, oh, are
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: you okay? Because that's not me? Are you okay? Obviously
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you don't know me, and I hope you go find
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: help insanity, And that's literally how I feel. So when
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: you say like full circle, people like Arianna get affected,
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you're a bad bitch and these people are not,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: like right, they need help? Yeah, Like they're coming at
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: you saying things and they don't fucking know you, right.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Like I don't hang out with you because I think
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: what I Janice from Wisconsin said about you, right, and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I know you. I'm around you a lot. Yes, what
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: that person is saying, she doesn't know you. It's so sad.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I know. I love Ariana, so I hope she gets
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: through that. Another DM that I got, Oh god, And
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: this was like a real DM, A girl asking me
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to mentor her on how to be a sugar baby
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: and She's like, I mean no disrespect by this, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: none of my friends know, like, are in this type
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of world. So I was hoping that you could like
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: my mentor.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Did do you think did you get the vibe that
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: she thought you were one at one time?
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Well a lot of people do, yeah, and we speak
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: about that this season.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You do.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Wait, I never I've never seen read that anywhere.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: By the way, if you're looking to be a sugar baby,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and let's just say I was, I'm the worst person
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: to mentor you because like I was like begging for
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: a new sewer that he wouldn't even pay for. I'm like, no,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the ceiling is going to fall through full of shit
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: if we don't pay for this, and he was like,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: can you split it with me? So like I'm the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: worst person.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Wait did you respond or no? Where You're just like.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I said, I can't help you because I'm not a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: sugar baby and never have been. So I'll be no
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: of you. I won't be of anything.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: What do you feel about sugar babies? It's like, live
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: your life if you want, but be fucking careful because
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: there's some dangerous people out there, you know.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: I before everything happened, I used to be. Even in
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: my book, I'm like do you boo? And now, because
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: of my trauma, I look down upon it pretty heavily,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: just because you know, when you're in a when you
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: think you're in a happy space, even though you're not one,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you're like do you Bill? And then you kind of
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: see what that world is like, like what's been happening
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: behind your back? And you start start realizing like, oh
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: my god, maybe he looked at me like I was
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: just a sugar baby and he could keep me around
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: with things, and that wasn't where my mindset was. My
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: mindset was like, oh my gosh, I'm here like being
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: a stepmom and I'm you know, teaching kids how to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: like read, I'm doing homework on a Friday so that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you can go have fun tonight. Like I didn't think
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of myself that way at all, but maybe that person did.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: So when I look at it now and just where
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I am, like, thank god. I sat there and thought
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna work my ass off no matter what, because
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: my mama taught me to never depend on anybody. So
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: when I see women who are sugar babies, I'm my girl.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, it ain't worth it.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I see when I do see the women who are
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: sugar babies, and look if there's like there's a lot
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that goes into it, but just the surface level.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what goes into it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's different for everyone. I think
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: there's sexual exchange. I think there's just items exchange. I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: don't know. I don't really know the world. I think
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: as long as you're genuinely happy and stay safe, then
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: that's one thing I've heard and seen. There's documentaries about it.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: A lot of shit that goes wrong, Like you're in
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: an even exchange relationship for a couple of years and
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: it's great, and then the woman wants to get out
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: and she kind of can't.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, I like where we're going here. Okay, let's assume
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you're a sugar baby in a safe all of it
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: is consensual, all of it is safe, because that's the
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: main thing. I want you safe. I need your mental
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: to be safe because that's also very very important. I
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: need you physically and emotionally safe. Let's just say we're there.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: If you are exchanging sexual favors for something, I highly
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: recommend you do it for money and not things and
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: not things because things aren't gonna get you anywhere. Don't
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: let him pay for your apartment, don't let him buy
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you bags. No, honey, I'm gonna need cold hard cash.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, So you save up to get yourself.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Out of there when you fucking stack the paper. Yeah,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: that's what I would do.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Cause there are another thing I saw on I
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: got to get the name of the documentary. If you
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: want to know, dm me. It's on I think Netflix.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: But there are there are a lot of sugar babies
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: apparently that are not allowed to have jobs because of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: that situation, because then they can stack it up, they
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: can get the things, stack up their cash from the job,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the actual job where they're like, you know whatever. I know,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: sugar baby is an actual job. I'm not trying to
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: offend anyone, but like a job where they have a
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: W two and all that and they're not allowed to
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: have it. And I found out by watching the documentary
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: is because in a lot of situations, the sugar daddy
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: quote unquote doesn't want the girl to just stack up
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: the cash and be able to.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Get and have independence. So there we go. You're no
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: longer emotionally safe. So I advise against being a sugar baby.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: I advise you start a business, go get a real job,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: be independent. That's what my mom always taught me to do.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: So I hate to put a bee in your bonnet.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I am not a sugar baby. I have never been
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a sugar baby. And I know that some of you
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: may think otherwise. We'll let you have that fun imagination
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: of yours, just run wild. I was talking to my
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: best friend Olivia, Okay, the one who our moms have
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: been friends and junior high and then our daughters are
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: six months apart, five months, I think, And I asked her.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: She has four kids, three boys and Hazel Grace, And
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I said, are you done? Are you not having kids anymore? And,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: by the way, most phenomenal mother in the entire world.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: I take her advice because she's got it figured out
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and she's a stay at home mom, which I think
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: would be the hardest job in the entire world. I
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: just respect all moms, whether you're working stay at home.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: It's just you're fucking killing the game. And she got
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: really emotional because she said, I don't want to close
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: that chapter of my life because I just the feeling
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: of having a newborn is so special. She got very emotional,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and she said, but I just can't help but think,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: how will each of my kids suffer if I bring
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: another baby into the family, Because she said, with each kid,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: you can no longer give each one what they need.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: It's just I know that, like my oldest is gonna
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: need me in this way, my middle is gonna need
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: me in this way. And if I bring another baby
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: into the world, like what am I going to have
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to take away to now give this new baby what
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: it needs? Oh that's interesting And I had never thought
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: about that because I come from Utah and some of
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: these people have nine kids, and it's just like because
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I wanted nine kids, and they don't think about Well,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: how is you know Max gonna suffer if I bring
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: in another child? How do I remember? How do you
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: remember all those names?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I barely remember the names of my siblings? Yeah, how
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: do you That's a great Did that make you think differently?
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Because have you always wanted a certain number of children
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: or not?
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: When I was young, like sixteen, Yeah, I thought I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: was going to marry my high school sweetheart and my
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: first high school sweetheart, which was like a dreadful experience.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: I wrote about him in the book.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Oh it was that one.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It was like his family couldn't know about me. He
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: was very Mormon.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: He was not the one where you came to visit
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: him right, and he was dick.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: No, that was when I was older. Okay, but what
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: did you just say, Oh, I wanted six kids. I
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: just always I remember this family had six kids, and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: it looked so fun. It looked so fun. The mom
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: always looked exhausted. Yeah, the kids were having a blast.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm going to have six kids. Now
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: that ship has sailed, obviously, because I'd have to really
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: start banking about like two at a time. Yeah, and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: even just having one is like a lot.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Do you ever think now, because I know you've mentioned
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: it before about and I know they'll see this maybe
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: on the upcoming season of vander Pump, but like, what's
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: your mindset now with kids or are you just like
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: I don't want to think about it. It's me. I'm like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: I don't want to fucking think about it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: No, I think about it because I have ocean And
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: by the way, I say, it's a lot just because
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I want to. I want to provide her with experiences
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and things that are gonna like mentally and emotionally stimulate her.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: So she's you know, I just want her to have experiences.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I want her to be around a lot of kids.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I want her to have a sibling. So a sperm
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: donor is an option. But then I met with this
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: fertility consultant or specialist at Stossey's house and she said,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I would freeze your eggs because then you have an
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: insurance policy. You're gonna meet someone. That's gonna happen. You're
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: gonna meet someone, and then when you do, you just
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: create embryos and there you go, and maybe you conceive
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: just like naturally the old fashion way, but at least
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you know that you have them and you're still open
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to Okay, I'm gonna have a baby, but I'm also
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: gonna have it with a partner.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: That's a good option. So I don't know, it's definitely, yeah,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: it's I have a friend back in New York who
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: just started the egg freezing process and she's thirty five,
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: and I was honest, I was like, wait, what you're
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: you're thirty five and they're like, she's like, yeah, that's
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: my doctor recommended.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: They say at thirty five is when things for a female.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Start to just decrease. Yeah, that's why I think a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: lot of people do it at thirty five.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But on the other hand of the because I
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: love that point Olivia brought. Every time you have another child,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: it's sort of takes away specific something from that child.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Four, yeahs is a lot. She's at three right now,
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: she's at four. Oh, it would be five, okay. On
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: the other hand of that, as one of five, I
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: do think there were things I learned growing up and
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: had to adapt as far as like number one, I
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: was always kind of fighting for attention, So I feel
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: like I learned to be a little like funny or
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: comedy like a lot of I got that from Like
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: as soon as I got to make someone laugh in
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: my family, I was getting attention. So I was like, Okay,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna learn how to do this more. And then
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: another thing is like I am not Kyle's an only child.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Well he was for like twenty five years, and he
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: it's hard for him to deal with Like he has
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: his space, he's got his stuff, like don't fucking touch it,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: not for me, but like this is my area, like
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: when he had roommates for me, I'm just like I
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: share everything. What's mine is yours. And I feel like
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: I learned how to be that way because I had
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: to be with four siblings. So there are positives and negatives,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I feel, you know, I think there are two.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe there's something that you could do. And
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: this is just in a perfect world, because this is
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: what I thought, you know, with Ocean before she came.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is how our life is going
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: And then they come and you're like that goes out
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the window and you're just making it work. But maybe
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: there's something where like if you had a lot of kids,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: maybe at a certain time every night you get together
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: in the bed, everyone talks. Maybe you do a one
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: on one with each of your kids.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know, that's so cute. We had the family
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: dinners where it's like that's all we had. We had
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: six pm. Everyone sits around the table. My dad would
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: go around and say, tell us the best part of
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: your day, tell us the worst, and like we couldn't
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: miss family dinners. We could only miss at four emergencies.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And like that was my mom. I love that.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I was just like and then as you get older,
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: you have like such a hopefully. Yeah, have such like
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: a beautiful connection with all your siblings.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you keep that sort of line of communication
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: open even if it's only an hour every day, because
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: you're all so busy, right, so you have that hour together.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think I'll tap out at three.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: You think, yeah, yeah, three is good.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: I could see you having six still, but I would
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: not even have it.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: But I will say when I talk to my mom
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: about it, yeah, she's like, Ocean's always gonna be my favorite.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean, ocean is always gonna be my favorite.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. I said this, and I was like, well,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Ocean's always gonna be my favorite too. I mean you
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: always have a special connection with just like your firstborn.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: He was like, thanks, oh, thanks, but no, Ocean will
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: always be I think Ocean even and you guys can
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: all say, oh no, that's not gonna that's not how
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be when you see your next baby.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: But Ocean and just like her personality mixed with like
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: having to leave that life behind at seven months and
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: even though she's not gonna remember it, Like I just
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: look at her and I have such a soft spot
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: in my heart for her.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's like your best friend and your daughter. And
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I know a lot of moms are like, you should
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: never be best friends with your daughter, but I see
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: you and your mom are best friends.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm best friends with my daughter. She doesn't even
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: know it yet. She is my everything. And yes, we'll
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: always have a special bond because she's my daughter. Yeah,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: but there's gonna be a place that for her is
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: just a little different.
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one hundred percent.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: But I could have another baby and it will all
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: be the same. I don't know. She's the only one
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I have right now, so of course a baby that
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist that I think about could be mine one day.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you ain't hitt and like ocean does.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: That's funny.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: Anyway, this was fun. I liked this episode. Lily's was
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: trying at the door.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I love you guys so much. I hope that you
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: had an incredible Halloween. I hope that everyone was safe
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: and just like blew it out the ass and the
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: most productive and happy way ever. Those of you who
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: don't drink, I hope that you got fuck wild on
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Perrier and I will catch you next week.