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Co-Eds trace gorgeous friend with 'Find My Friends' app, find dead body instead · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: twenty two year old girl, a college student goes missing
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Speaker 1: and the search for Healey Anderson unfolds in the most
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Speaker 1: unusual and unheard of way. What happened to this missing
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Speaker 1: college girl? Healey Anderson? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, I,
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Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, thank you for being with us here at
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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. First of all,
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Speaker 1: take a listen to Crime online dot Com investigative reporter
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Speaker 1: Dave mac. Haley Anderson's roommate wasn't worried when she didn't
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Speaker 1: show up at a planned poetry reading session. Family and
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Speaker 1: friends described Anderson as an independent person, full of life
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Speaker 1: who liked to do her own thing. Anderson was the
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Speaker 1: type of student who stayed on campus for spring breaks
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Speaker 1: so she could study. So again, when Anderson was a
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Speaker 1: no show, Josie Arden didn't think much of it. But
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Speaker 1: the next day was different. Not only was Anderson not
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Speaker 1: answering calls or text she wasn't posting on social media either.
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Speaker 1: Arden and another friend began to look for Haley Anderson. Guys,
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Speaker 1: this is a real bookworm. Twenty two year old Ellie Anderson,
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Speaker 1: who had decided to stay on campus over spring break
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Speaker 1: so she could study. She wasn't down in Fort Liquordale,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, Fort Lauderdale with her top off playing chicken
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Speaker 1: in the water. This girl stayed back to study. Her
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Speaker 1: roommates only began to get worried when she doesn't show
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Speaker 1: up at a planned poetry reading session. They thought that
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Speaker 1: was all, but then she stopped posting on social media.
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Speaker 1: With me an all star panel to break it down
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Speaker 1: and put it back together again. First of all, judge
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Speaker 1: and trial lawyer. You can find her anchor at Court
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Speaker 1: TV at Ashley Wilcott dot com. Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville State University and author a Blood Beneath My Feet
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Speaker 1: on Amazon. He is a so called death investigator. Doctor
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Speaker 1: Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst, joining us out of Beverly Hills. You
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Speaker 1: can find her at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. The
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Speaker 1: director and founder of the Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: crime crime scene expert. But right now, to Crime online
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Speaker 1: dot com investigative reporter Levi Page Levi, and to everyone
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Speaker 1: on our program today, Let's start at the beginning. Let's
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Speaker 1: don't get ahead of ourselves and try to sift through
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Speaker 1: the clues that were first left behind? Straight to you,
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Speaker 1: Levi page, What can you tell me about this girl?
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Speaker 1: Healey Anderson, Because there's not a lot of college students
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Speaker 1: that willingly she used to stay behind and study instead
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Speaker 1: of going on spring break and go to a poetry reading.
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Speaker 1: You don't hear that very often. So she's a nursing
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Speaker 1: student at Bingham to New York. She's just twenty two
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Speaker 1: years old, Levi Page, What can you tell me about
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Speaker 1: this young girl? Do we know where she's from? To
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Speaker 1: start with? Long Island? Okay, so not too far away
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Speaker 1: from home. Go ahead. She's a straight A student and
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Speaker 1: she's a very well like, very popular. Nobody can say
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Speaker 1: a negative thing about her. Her mother described her as
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Speaker 1: quote a millennial hippie, very friendly, very talkative. She trusted
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Speaker 1: everyone and was very supportive of her. I want to
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Speaker 1: go to doctor Bethany Marshall, psychoanalyst joining me out of
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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. Just just this morning, Bethany I was talking
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Speaker 1: to my partner in her oxygen program in Justice about
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Speaker 1: his daughter Kira, who has a four point zero and
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Speaker 1: nearly fell out when she made to be the other day.
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Speaker 1: Bethany not bragging, maybe bragging. My son made a hundred,
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Speaker 1: a one hundred on a tap and guess what he said, Mom,
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Speaker 1: it's going to bring down my average because he had
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Speaker 1: one hundred and five in that class. Now wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: I'm working up to something. My sister validictory in high school,
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Speaker 1: graduated in double major and accounting and German four. You
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Speaker 1: know how hard it is to have a four oh
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Speaker 1: in college, much less in nursing. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: not the kind of girl that just takes off in
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Speaker 1: a van and decides to see the world. She's dedicated.
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Speaker 1: That makes her disappearance even more unusual, Doctor Bethany. Not
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Speaker 1: only that she had two very good friends she lived
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Speaker 1: with and they were inseparable. She was the kind of
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Speaker 1: girl who was independent. She didn't want to talk to
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Speaker 1: her mom every single day, so she said, Mom, call
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Speaker 1: me every Sunday. So she set up very predictable relationships
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Speaker 1: in her life. This is not the kind of person
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Speaker 1: who would go missing. And the fast Nancy that nobody
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Speaker 1: disliked her, Everyone loved her. She's gorgeous. Have you seen her?
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Speaker 1: The one picture I have fours around. She's got this
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Speaker 1: naturally brown hair and it's got golden ship, Marie thingies
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Speaker 1: in it, big blue eyes, perfect teeth, that costs some
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Speaker 1: money right there, those two and she looks like a
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Speaker 1: cover girl. You know, you said something, and I want
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Speaker 1: to follow up on the significance of this. You said
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Speaker 1: she had predictable relationships, that she had her mom called
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Speaker 1: like my mom. When I was in college and law
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Speaker 1: school and frankly, when I was still started trying cases.
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Speaker 1: She had a job where she had to be there.
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Speaker 1: She was a CFO of a canning company. She had
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Speaker 1: to be there at seven sharp. That's when you still
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Speaker 1: got charged for long distance calls. But at work she
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Speaker 1: had an eight hundred number. She would call me at
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Speaker 1: seven o'clock sharp every morning, say just want to make
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Speaker 1: sure you're up in about and having your V eight
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Speaker 1: and you know, every morning. Very predictable. But what does
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Speaker 1: that mean, doctor Bethany. Well, to me, it means that
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Speaker 1: she had very secure attachment systems, and that even though
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Speaker 1: she was beautiful, like you said, perfect hair, perfect teeth, bubbly,
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Speaker 1: that she wasn't the kind of person who had devisive
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Speaker 1: relationships or sparked envy or sparked division in the people
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Speaker 1: around her. That people found her likable in a very
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Speaker 1: ongoing kind of way. So that to me even raises
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Speaker 1: the red slight even more that she would disappear because
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Speaker 1: she's not the kind of person who would have relationships
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Speaker 1: where people would dislike her. She wasn't toxic, she wasn't poisonous.
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Speaker 1: You know, some people go missing and you start looking
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Speaker 1: for enemies, right, this person doesn't like them, that person's
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Speaker 1: posting on Instagram, one friend says something negative, but not
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Speaker 1: one person has come forward and said anything negative about her.
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Speaker 1: You know, another quick story Nancy is that at one
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Speaker 1: point she was sitting with her two best friends on
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Speaker 1: her dormbed and she said to them, what does depression
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Speaker 1: feel like? I thought that was fascinating that a young
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Speaker 1: woman this age did not know what pressions felt like.
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Speaker 1: That helps me what good mental health is. She was
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Speaker 1: in how optimistic and that she's not the kind of
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Speaker 1: girl who was getting herself in trouble. You know, I
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Speaker 1: want to follow up with Ashy Wilcott, judge and trial law,
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Speaker 1: your anchor court dv Ashley. That's very significant. And when
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Speaker 1: doctor Bethany said, I just want to tell another story
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Speaker 1: when I would investigate cases and even now when I'm
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Speaker 1: reporting on cases and I'm speaking to witnesses or players
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Speaker 1: in the case. I like to sit down and hear
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Speaker 1: all their stories because Ashley somewhere and all that information
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Speaker 1: you learn something about the disappearance, like what we were
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Speaker 1: listening to Ashley, where she had a scheduled time for
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Speaker 1: mom to call every week, where she had two best friends,
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Speaker 1: where she didn't really understand, like what's depression, Like I've
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Speaker 1: never felt like that. When you sit down and you
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Speaker 1: really listen to people's stories, you learn information to use
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Speaker 1: in the search for this missing girl Ashley. You've got
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Speaker 1: to be willing to listen. Absolutely, It's so important because
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Speaker 1: what it does is established as a timeline, so you
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Speaker 1: can figure out what is the routine, what did they miss,
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Speaker 1: where were they when were they there? And I will
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Speaker 1: tell you, as a judge, one of the biggest things
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Speaker 1: I see as attorneys often do not like to listen
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Speaker 1: to answers to investigations, and you are right. Listening is
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Speaker 1: key prime stories. With Nancy Grace, we were talking about
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Speaker 1: a young girl, a nursing student set to graduate and
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Speaker 1: just a month or so doesn't go on spring break
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Speaker 1: because she wants to study. Has a four oh average
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Speaker 1: plus she's beautiful. I'm talking about Helly, Helly Anderson. And
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Speaker 1: another thing that I know about Helly is she had
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Speaker 1: very good friends who noticed when she didn't come to
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Speaker 1: a poetry reading and also when she wasn't posting on Facebook.
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Speaker 1: I want to go to Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics
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Speaker 1: and Cheryl McCollum, Director Coal Case Research Institute. Cheryl McCollum,
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Speaker 1: you and I met, you say around two o'clock in
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Speaker 1: the morning at a crime scene. I don't remember it
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Speaker 1: quite that way, but I will bow to your recollection, Cheryl.
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Speaker 1: When you start looking for somebody, you got to know
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Speaker 1: who they are. You've got to know are they a
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Speaker 1: drinker not judging? Do they use drugs? Not judging? Do
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Speaker 1: they go out overnight and don't come back home? Who
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Speaker 1: were their last boyfriends or girlfriends? How often are they
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Speaker 1: in touch with their family. I'm talking about college students.
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Speaker 1: All of that matters, Cheryl, when you were working on
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Speaker 1: a case and you can't find a young girl, absolutely
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Speaker 1: every single thing about their life matters. And here's what's
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Speaker 1: brilliant here. She was predictable. She was the kind of
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Speaker 1: you know, the student friends that you could rely on.
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Speaker 1: She had a four point z was so she didn't
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Speaker 1: miss class, she didn't miss study sessions. I've got two
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Speaker 1: sisters that are trauma nurses, and I will tell you
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Speaker 1: those nursing programs, they get out of class and go
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Speaker 1: right into a study session with all their friends. There's
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Speaker 1: a lot of accountability with everybody, you know, sort of
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Speaker 1: like law school. You do these five questions, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to answer the next five, etc. You know, when you
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Speaker 1: were just describing going into study study sessions with her friend,
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Speaker 1: I thought immediately law school because the minute you got
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Speaker 1: a class, you get a cup of coffee and you
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Speaker 1: go straight into study sessions and you create a bond
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Speaker 1: with those people. It's like you're in a foxhold together
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Speaker 1: and you don't just disappear or not show up for
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Speaker 1: your study session, you know. Joe Scott Morgan, Professor forensics,
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville State and author, death investigator. I would first start
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Speaker 1: looking at her apartment. If you were looking, if you
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Speaker 1: were trying to figure out what happened to this girl,
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Speaker 1: what would you do first? Joe Scott Morgan, Well, you
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Speaker 1: know you're going to learn the most about a person's
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Speaker 1: life where they live, just as you mentioned, and so
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Speaker 1: I want to know, for instance, if she is missing
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Speaker 1: you can't track her down. Is there any sign of
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Speaker 1: a fourth century or struggle as the apartment? Is her
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Speaker 1: luggage missing? Does she have valuables that are still in
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Speaker 1: the house that people are familiar with or are they
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Speaker 1: gone or things thrown about? Is there disordering chaos in
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Speaker 1: the environment, or if everything is placed, Why does that
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Speaker 1: matter to you whether her clothes are on the floor,
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Speaker 1: Why do you care about that? Well, because it gives
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Speaker 1: you an idea that maybe there was a frenzied event,
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Speaker 1: particularly for somebody that is by nature a neat person.
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Speaker 1: If you walk in, you know, at any point in time,
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Speaker 1: now you look in my eighteen year old son's room,
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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna think, well, he lives this way.
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Speaker 1: But with a girl that is so very ordered in
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Speaker 1: her life. She's so very disciplined with what she's doing
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Speaker 1: in school academically. You know, here at Jackson State, we've
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Speaker 1: got this fantastic sick nursing program and it is run
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Speaker 1: like a military camp because it has to be so ordered.
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Speaker 1: She has a very ordered life. If anything differs from
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Speaker 1: that life. For an investigator, that is essential because it
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Speaker 1: begins to paint a narrative. Guys, we were talking about
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Speaker 1: a twenty two year old girl, absolutely stunning brains and
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Speaker 1: beauty four point average who suddenly doesn't show up for
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Speaker 1: a poetry reading and then her friends notice she's not
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Speaker 1: posting online. So where do you look statistically? You look
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Speaker 1: at a boyfriend, a lover and ex, a husband. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen now to our friend, Maria Elena Selina's CBS
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Speaker 1: News forty eight Hours correspondent. Haley and Orlando first met
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Speaker 1: in class, but didn't forge a friendship until Haley's fourth
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Speaker 1: year at school, when they crossed pats at a party
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Speaker 1: at Kevin's off campus apartment. It was just coincidence that
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Speaker 1: they met in my apartment. Haley recognized him and so
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Speaker 1: she introduced me to him Orlando. Hailey and Kevin grew closer.
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Speaker 1: Kevin even invited his new friend to join his fraternity.
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Speaker 1: We tried to recruit people who we think we would
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Speaker 1: get along with well, and being that we were both
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Speaker 1: from Hispanic backgrounds, me and him were the only two
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Speaker 1: people that spoke Spanish, so I thought it'd be a
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Speaker 1: good idea. In for a while, it was until Kevin
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Speaker 1: and Haley took one of their breaks in Orlando crossed
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Speaker 1: the line in his friendship with Haley. They had romantic
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Speaker 1: time together, but Haley was very clear from the beginning
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Speaker 1: that she didn't want to be in a committed relationship.
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Speaker 1: Haley and Orlando now had their own on again, off
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Speaker 1: again relationship in oh I smell a love triangle. Where
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Speaker 1: there's a love triangle, there's a problem. Let me understand this,
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Speaker 1: Levi pays, joining me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
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Speaker 1: Haley was so into her nursing studies she did not
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Speaker 1: want a full time boyfriend and all of the commitment
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Speaker 1: that goes with that. She was hell bent on keeping
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Speaker 1: that four oh average. So she has a relationship with
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Speaker 1: the boyfriend, Kevin, but she doesn't want a committed relationship,
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Speaker 1: so they break up, then they get back together, they
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Speaker 1: break up, and during this they meet Orlando to Sarah
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Speaker 1: and they all three become friends. And then on one
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Speaker 1: of the breakup periods with the boyfriend Kevin, Orlando moves
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Speaker 1: in and starts taking her out, but she again reiterates,
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Speaker 1: I don't want a full on boyfriend. Do I understand
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Speaker 1: that correctly? Yes, You've got that relationship down. Pat into
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Speaker 1: Orlando is twenty two years old. He's from of a
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Speaker 1: well to do family. His family immigrated to Miami from Nicaragua.
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Speaker 1: His father was a physician, and he was also a
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Speaker 1: nursing student as well. So that's how him and haleyot bonded.
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Speaker 1: Was their common major in college. Okay, so the boyfriend,
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Speaker 1: Kevin is a nursing student, so he's under the same
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Speaker 1: stress she is, maybe not as much because she wants
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Speaker 1: a four. Oh, that's how they become friends. And then
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Speaker 1: the Orlando to Sarah boyfriend. They meet at a party
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Speaker 1: and they're all three friends, but then he starts dating her. Yes, no, yes,
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Speaker 1: Orlando is actually the nursing student, known him in class
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Speaker 1: and then got to know him better at a party. Now,
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Speaker 1: which one was the rich one? The wealthy one? Kevin
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Speaker 1: Orlando his family. His family immigrated to Miami from Nico Waugua,
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Speaker 1: and Orlando's father was a physician. He came from a
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Speaker 1: very well to do, respected family. Okay, so now we
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Speaker 1: see a love triangle. Doctor Bethany Marshall, nothing good comes
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Speaker 1: out of a love triangle? Can we at least agree
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Speaker 1: on that? We can agree that nothing good comes out
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Speaker 1: of a love triangle. Yes, nothing good at all, and
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Speaker 1: then something goes sideways. Take a listen again to Maria
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Speaker 1: Elena Salinas at CBS News forty eight hours, weirdly possessive
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Speaker 1: of Haley, who wasn't his girlfriend. He definitely liked Haley.
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Speaker 1: He definitely seemed like he wanted it to be a
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Speaker 1: little bit more than just an on and off a fling.
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Speaker 1: Then there was this big red flags every single one.
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Speaker 1: Haley posted this nept video announcing the tires on her
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Speaker 1: car had been slashed. It happened the date after a
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Speaker 1: party at Orlando's apartment, where he learned that Haley and
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Speaker 1: Kevin were on again. I was the one who found
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Speaker 1: her tire slashed. Kevin had spent the night at Haley's.
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Speaker 1: We wake up. She walked me out of the door,
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Speaker 1: and this time when I was walking past her car,
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Speaker 1: I noticed that something looked off about it every single line,
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Speaker 1: and I told her right away, I said, it must
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Speaker 1: be Orlando. Okay, that's always a rude surprise to wake up.
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Speaker 1: I had happened to me when I was a prosecutor,
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Speaker 1: and every time it turned out, which was I think
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Speaker 1: three or four times, it was a definants relative that
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Speaker 1: slashed my tires. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, guys were
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Speaker 1: talking about the disappearance of a young girl, twenty two
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Speaker 1: year old Haley Anderson, and we have just developed the
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Speaker 1: fact that there was a love triangle going on, maybe
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Speaker 1: not in her mind, but in the minds of the
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Speaker 1: two guys that were vying for her attention. There was
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Speaker 1: a love triangle. So what I'm understanding, is that correct
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Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong? Levi Page the original boyfriend, Kevin,
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Speaker 1: they're dating again. They walked out of her apartment one
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Speaker 1: morning and see all four of her tires slash. Right?
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Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yes? And they suspected Orlando to Sarah
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Speaker 1: because that's the wealthy boyfriend. Right. Yes, They had been
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Speaker 1: at a party and he had seen them together and
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Speaker 1: he became angry. He got into an argument with Haley,
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Speaker 1: he berated her, and then the next morning she notices
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Speaker 1: her tires are slash. You know, doctor Bethany Marshall, I
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Speaker 1: gotta go off on a rant here. Why is it
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Speaker 1: you have a couple of dates with somebody and then
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Speaker 1: some other guy like you're their possession, gets all angry
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Speaker 1: and actually brights you in public because you have a date, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: it's I would adopt him right there. I could write
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Speaker 1: volumes on this. Perhaps it wasn't a love triangle. Perhaps
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Speaker 1: she was a beautiful young woman who was free to
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Speaker 1: date whoever she wanted. But in the mind of Orlando, Orlando,
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Speaker 1: she became his possession very soon. And this seems stalkrish
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Speaker 1: to me, and you've heard me say this so many
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Speaker 1: times on your show. Stalkers imagine that there's a relationship
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Speaker 1: even when there is evidence to the contrary. They could
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Speaker 1: spot somebody in a shopping mall and a beautiful woman
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Bam, that's my girlfriend, Or
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Speaker 1: see a star like Selena Gomez on stage and oh,
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Speaker 1: she's my girl. Friends, their fantasy's outpaced reality. And because
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Speaker 1: of that, every time the girlfriend does not or the woman,
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Speaker 1: the pop star, the woman in the mall, whoever they're
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Speaker 1: fixated on, does not return their attention, they feel insulted,
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Speaker 1: they feel angry, and then they start to pursue the
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Speaker 1: woman to have greater and greater control over her and
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Speaker 1: to bring her under submission in some way. They go
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Speaker 1: after the victim, to punish the victim for perceived rejection.
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Speaker 1: So I'm worried if Orlando is this kind of a
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Speaker 1: guy and she's this hippie free spirit who wants to
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Speaker 1: date whoever she wants. Another issue disturbing me, Doctor Bethany,
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Speaker 1: is that who would take as compliance public. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you can, in your mind feel jealous or angry, but
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Speaker 1: then to outwardly brate someone in public at a party,
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Speaker 1: that kind of takes it to another and more disturbing
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Speaker 1: level to you. Cheryl McCollum, I mean, we've had so
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Speaker 1: many missing cases and murder cases together. That's crossing a
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Speaker 1: line when you think, oh, I hate him, and then
23:10
Speaker 1: you cross the line and you throw a fit at
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Speaker 1: a party. Here's what concerns me. He does throw the
23:17
Speaker 1: fit at the party, so you think, Okay, he's blown
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Speaker 1: off and seem he's gonna leave forget her. Who needs
23:22
Speaker 1: the r anyway, go find another one. He doesn't do that, Nancy, Well, okay,
23:27
Speaker 1: we think he doesn't do it, but we're talking about
23:31
Speaker 1: slashing the tires. Take a listen again to our friends
23:33
Speaker 1: at forty eight hours. Orlando denied it and even tried
23:37
Speaker 1: to blame Kevin, but Karen Anderson didn't buy it. So
23:41
Speaker 1: you're pretty convinced that it was Orlando who slept her tires.
23:44
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I said, Helly, you need to make a
23:47
Speaker 1: police report. So the police came over. They took the
23:50
Speaker 1: information down, but she wouldn't press charges because it was
23:56
Speaker 1: over six hundred dollars in damage and it would be
23:58
Speaker 1: considered a felony. He would have been kicked out of
23:59
Speaker 1: the nurse school. For a while, Haley kept her distance
24:03
Speaker 1: from Orlando, but despite warnings from her family and friends,
24:08
Speaker 1: she eventually led him back into her life. It was
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Speaker 1: a reflect for you, but not necessarily for Haley. No right,
24:14
Speaker 1: she trusted him, So help me understand that. Why would
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Speaker 1: you let him back in your life after you suspect
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Speaker 1: that he slashed your tires? You let him back in?
24:27
Speaker 1: Why is that, doctor, Bethany Marshall, Do you just want
24:29
Speaker 1: to avoid the subject? Do you want to pretend like
24:33
Speaker 1: it didn't happen? Do you not want to? You know,
24:35
Speaker 1: women and abusive relationships battered women's syndrome. They want that
24:41
Speaker 1: perfect relationship. They don't want to accept that they're being abused,
24:45
Speaker 1: and so they will just go through life with the
24:47
Speaker 1: blinders on, not accepting what's really happening. Why do we
24:51
Speaker 1: why do people do that. They don't want to know
24:53
Speaker 1: something bad, like women that are getting or men that
24:55
Speaker 1: are getting cheated on. They want to ignore the littlestick
24:58
Speaker 1: on the collar. Why is that? Well, so women in
25:01
Speaker 1: abusive relationships in men, I think of it as a
25:04
Speaker 1: crisis of boundaries. So in this case, the boundary poor
25:08
Speaker 1: boundary would be that she knows that there's something wrong
25:11
Speaker 1: with Orlando, that she's suffering, he's obsessed with her, and
25:15
Speaker 1: in her mind, instead of saying he's a creeper, she's
25:17
Speaker 1: going to say, oh, poor Orlando. You know he's suffering,
25:22
Speaker 1: he's lonely, he's upset. And the crisis of boundaries is
25:26
Speaker 1: that she's going to blame herself that perhaps he has
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Speaker 1: done something to cause his suffering, and because she's done
25:33
Speaker 1: something to cause his suffering, now he's responsible for it
25:37
Speaker 1: and therefore she must fix it. So the person misbehaves
25:42
Speaker 1: does something bad, and then in this case, Haley feels
25:47
Speaker 1: responsible for getting him in trouble or suspecting him. It's
25:52
Speaker 1: in her mind kind of her fault. He's in trouble,
25:55
Speaker 1: and so she brings him back into the fault. Let
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Speaker 1: me ask you a question, Jose Scott Morgan. I'm interested
26:04
Speaker 1: in what the friends did to try and find her.
26:09
Speaker 1: By this point, Haley's missing. The friends don't know what
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Speaker 1: to do, and they decide to try track my iPhone.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to your cut three. This is Maria
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Speaker 1: Elena Selenas. When Binghamton University nursing student Haley Anderson first
26:33
Speaker 1: disappeared from her off campus apartment, her close friend and
26:36
Speaker 1: roommate Josie Harton says she wasn't alarmed. I didn't think, oh,
26:41
Speaker 1: something terrible has happened, because you know, Haley is a
26:44
Speaker 1: big girl. But the next day Josie became extremely concerned,
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Speaker 1: especially when another roommate used the app Find My Friends
26:54
Speaker 1: to track Haley's phone to the appointment. A fellow nursing student,
26:57
Speaker 1: Orlando tell me about Orlando. Orlando is charismatic. Orlando's close friend,
27:08
Speaker 1: Jesse Boa, knew how much Orlando liked Haley. The first
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Speaker 1: thing I thought was maybe they had eloped, But Josie
27:14
Speaker 1: didn't trust Orlando and went to his apartment in search
27:17
Speaker 1: of her friend. When no one answered the door, she
27:21
Speaker 1: climbed through a window and found Haley. I didn't know
27:24
Speaker 1: for sure that she was dead. At the time, she
27:27
Speaker 1: just was so pale. You know, Hailey had been strangled
27:30
Speaker 1: to death, and Orlando too was gone. It's a lot
27:35
Speaker 1: to take in when I look at photos of Haley,
27:40
Speaker 1: she looks so incredibly alive, just stunning, big smile, all
27:46
Speaker 1: the world ahead of her and her friends. Do they
27:53
Speaker 1: find my friend app I've got it on my phone.
27:57
Speaker 1: It's called I Think Life three sixty and I can
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Speaker 1: see where I am, my husband, and my twins are.
28:06
Speaker 1: And they followed it to Orlando's apartment. Orlando to Sarah,
28:13
Speaker 1: Now remember Orlando to Sarah is the wealthy young man
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Speaker 1: who has dual citizenship in the US and his hunt
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Speaker 1: parents Homeland, Nicaragua. They trick her phone to the apartment.
28:31
Speaker 1: While his friends think everything's okay, her friend Josie says,
28:35
Speaker 1: no way. They actually climb a tree to look into
28:42
Speaker 1: the apartment and they see Helle's body lying there. Pale
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, we are discussing the disappearance
29:09
Speaker 1: and the discovery of the body of a beautiful young girl. Brilliant.
29:16
Speaker 1: Take a listen to CBS News forty eight hours nearly
29:21
Speaker 1: six months after her tires were slashed, Haley went missing
29:26
Speaker 1: even off Snapchat Josie in another roommate, Ni, Michelle tracked
29:31
Speaker 1: Haley's iPhone to Orlando's apartment and then climbed through a
29:35
Speaker 1: window in search of their friend. Oh. I boosted Michelle
29:40
Speaker 1: up first and then climbed in and she was a
29:44
Speaker 1: little ways ahead of me, and basically she screamed and
29:48
Speaker 1: yelled to me like Josie, call nine one one, and
29:53
Speaker 1: I walk in there and then I see Orlando's bedroom
29:56
Speaker 1: and Haley is there. I didn't know for sure that
30:01
Speaker 1: she was dead at the time. She just was so pale.
30:06
Speaker 1: You know, Hailey had been strangled to death in Orlando.
30:10
Speaker 1: Pucito was nowhere to be found. Straight out to you,
30:15
Speaker 1: Justice Scott Morgan, death investigator, Professor Forensics explained to me
30:20
Speaker 1: the science how it works find my friend with the
30:24
Speaker 1: iPhone function, Nancy. Everything operates on a large cloud. This
30:31
Speaker 1: cloud that exists, it contains all of the identifiers for
30:34
Speaker 1: this phone and each person's each person's phone has a
30:38
Speaker 1: specific identifier for it. So if you're missing your phone,
30:42
Speaker 1: perhaps you can go into that system and on a
30:47
Speaker 1: computer and you can actually key in the code for
30:51
Speaker 1: the phone and it will ping. And what that means
30:54
Speaker 1: it's going to bounce off of the repeater, the transmitter,
30:58
Speaker 1: and then the phone it's elf. We'll give off a
31:01
Speaker 1: location signal. It'll also if you've lost it in your house,
31:05
Speaker 1: it'll chime in a specific way. So it's a specific
31:08
Speaker 1: way to identify. Now, with this particular case, let's keep
31:12
Speaker 1: in mind these are young millennial kids. Everybody, and I
31:16
Speaker 1: mean everybody is heavily depended upon their phone. It's with
31:20
Speaker 1: us everywhere we go, and she's engaged in social media.
31:25
Speaker 1: So when she kind of disappears off of this, it
31:29
Speaker 1: starts them thinking. You know, an older generation like me,
31:31
Speaker 1: I'm not going to think about the phone as much
31:33
Speaker 1: as they are. But immediately these kids start thinking, how
31:36
Speaker 1: can I track her down using her phone? And of
31:40
Speaker 1: course in the end it winds up pinpointing her exact location.
31:44
Speaker 1: You know, Joe Scott, you gotta get with it. I
31:47
Speaker 1: use Life three sixty all the time. And the twins,
31:52
Speaker 1: as you know, just with their school band went to
31:56
Speaker 1: Disney and played on one of the stages there with
32:00
Speaker 1: a lot of schools where their school bands were there,
32:04
Speaker 1: and the thought of them wandering around Disney without a
32:08
Speaker 1: chaperone nearly threw me over the edge. So I used
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Speaker 1: a Live three sixty the whole time to see them
32:15
Speaker 1: walking around, and I mean it really works, and even
32:19
Speaker 1: find my iPhone can work. You can plug on your
32:26
Speaker 1: iPad and then it leads you to your iPhone. That's
32:29
Speaker 1: how that works, and that is what happened here. But
32:32
Speaker 1: where is to Sarah? Here is ABC seven News anchor
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Speaker 1: Liz Show. We are learning new details today about the
32:40
Speaker 1: man wanted for questioning in the suspicious death of a
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Speaker 1: Binghamton University student. Police identify him as Orlando ter Sara.
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Speaker 1: He is also a Binghamton nursing student and the ex
32:51
Speaker 1: boyfriend of twenty two year old Haley Anderson. Police found
32:54
Speaker 1: Anderson's body on Friday at an off campus home. They
32:57
Speaker 1: want to question ter Sarah, but he fled to Nicaragua
33:01
Speaker 1: authority before authorities found her body to leave my page
33:05
Speaker 1: climb online dot Com investigative reporter, What do we know
33:08
Speaker 1: regarding cause of death? Well, Nancy, we know that the
33:12
Speaker 1: autopsy found that there were finger marks on Haley Anderson's
33:17
Speaker 1: neck and the medical examiner noted in the autopsy quote
33:21
Speaker 1: this was a case of asphyxiation by net compression, both
33:25
Speaker 1: manually and ligature strangulation due to the necklace she was
33:29
Speaker 1: wearing at the time. The autopsy was conducted March tenth,
33:32
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and the medical examiner estimated the time of
33:37
Speaker 1: death was thirty six to forty eight hours before the
33:39
Speaker 1: body was found. It seems to me, as she Willcott,
33:42
Speaker 1: that the up third wheel of that love triangle Orlando
33:48
Speaker 1: to Sarah left immediately after killing her. As she Willcot,
33:56
Speaker 1: the fact that he would leave the country is light,
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Speaker 1: and very often, I would argue to juries. You know,
34:04
Speaker 1: when a state trooper comes up behind you, do you
34:07
Speaker 1: hit the gas at one hundred mph and take off? No,
34:11
Speaker 1: you might slow down a little bit, but you don't
34:14
Speaker 1: take flight unless there's a reason to take flight. Oh,
34:19
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, Nancy. Now I'm gonna say,
34:21
Speaker 1: any good defense attorney's gonna say, so what he left
34:24
Speaker 1: that doesn't prove his guilt. Maybe someone passed away where
34:28
Speaker 1: he's from and he had to go home. But when
34:30
Speaker 1: you start looking at all of these things together, I
34:33
Speaker 1: do not believe it's coincidence. And I think that when
34:36
Speaker 1: someone flees there can be some guilt associated with that.
34:40
Speaker 1: You would think at an apartment complex there would be
34:43
Speaker 1: surveillance video right, and that the cameras would work. We'll
34:46
Speaker 1: believe it or not it's true. So often we hear, oh,
34:51
Speaker 1: they taped over every seventy two hours, or the cameras
34:54
Speaker 1: were just for show, or they weren't functioning. But in
34:58
Speaker 1: this case we find out, Sir Valance cameras were working
35:02
Speaker 1: at Orlando to Sarah's apartment. Take a listen to forty
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Speaker 1: eight hours correspondent Maria Elena Selina's Binghamton Police Lieutenant Corey
35:11
Speaker 1: miner let the search for Haley's suspected killer. So this
35:15
Speaker 1: is a house that Orlando lived in, that is correct.
35:18
Speaker 1: There are several different cameras on the house. Those cameras
35:21
Speaker 1: were utilized two track not only Miss Anderson's movements around
35:25
Speaker 1: the property, but also mister Tressaro's throughout the day of
35:29
Speaker 1: March eighth and March ninth. The first recording of interest
35:33
Speaker 1: to police was on Thursday in March eighth, in the
35:36
Speaker 1: early morning hours, when Hailey met up with Orlando. The
35:40
Speaker 1: camera on the front of the house shows Miss Anderson
35:43
Speaker 1: and mister Tresco walking into the residence. On March eighth.
35:47
Speaker 1: After Miss Anderson walks into the house, she is never
35:50
Speaker 1: seen again. Mister Tresco. On the other hand, he is
35:54
Speaker 1: seen leaving the residence several times. Nearly seven hours after
35:59
Speaker 1: right with Healy, Orlando is seen clearing the driveway of
36:03
Speaker 1: garbage and leaving alone. You sing a receipt they found
36:08
Speaker 1: in his apartment. Police tracked his movements to a local
36:11
Speaker 1: pharmacy where he purchased zequilt and melatonin to sleeping aids. Okay,
36:17
Speaker 1: so we're learning more and more from the video surveillance.
36:20
Speaker 1: To Cheryl McCollum, what does the surveillance tell you? It
36:23
Speaker 1: reminds me of your hand Vannerslutor Stephanie Floridas, where they
36:27
Speaker 1: walk into the hotel together then only he leaves. Not
36:30
Speaker 1: only did they have that in real time, Nancy, it's
36:33
Speaker 1: going to line up with the apps that her friends
36:37
Speaker 1: used to find my friends because that app also has
36:40
Speaker 1: a location history, and they're going to line up in
36:43
Speaker 1: real time perfectly. Take a listen now to where police
36:49
Speaker 1: believe Orlando flu Steve coinedwell, wasn't sure, nikod I want
36:55
Speaker 1: authorities we're even looking for to setto We had no
36:59
Speaker 1: communication with anybody in the government of Nicaragua at that
37:02
Speaker 1: point for those few days. Then four days after his arrival,
37:08
Speaker 1: Orlando's mother drove him an hour south to the much
37:12
Speaker 1: larger city of Lyon to get medical attention. According to
37:17
Speaker 1: the police report, Orlando Teseo was brought to this hospital
37:20
Speaker 1: with self inflicted wounds, implying he tried to take his
37:23
Speaker 1: own life. It's possible that someone here recognized the fugitive.
37:29
Speaker 1: The story had been in the news for days. We
37:35
Speaker 1: were told that this is where police finally found and
37:39
Speaker 1: arrested Orlando. The next day in Manawa, police held a
37:44
Speaker 1: press conference informing the world that Orlando Teso was in custody.
37:49
Speaker 1: He's in custody all right. In Nicaragua, we later learned
37:53
Speaker 1: police say that jealousy was the motive that Haley was
37:57
Speaker 1: killed by asphyxiation. Net came Russian, choked to death in
38:02
Speaker 1: her sleep, but to Sarah, leaves her where she is
38:07
Speaker 1: and flees the country. In the end, this guy convicted
38:14
Speaker 1: in the death of this young girl, but not in
38:18
Speaker 1: the US. With us strings and connections his family have
38:22
Speaker 1: there in his homeland. Who knows if he won't be released,
38:26
Speaker 1: just the way Jorn van der Sleet was after killing
38:30
Speaker 1: Natalie Holloway. We wait as Justice unfolds Nancy Grace crime story,
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Speaker 1: signing off goodbye friend,