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M and M Extra 06.26.26 | Presler vs Thune |Death Penalty for Charlie Kirk's Killer| Mark’s Procedure · The M&M Experience

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Speaker 2: on YouTube or apples, spotify wherever you may be. Some
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Speaker 2: breaking news by the way that we and this is
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Speaker 2: what I love about being able to uh uh to
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Speaker 2: do this thing, uh you know, on a whim. The
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Speaker 2: judge overseeing the case against Charlie Kirk's accused killer thing Yep,
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Speaker 2: he decided to keep the death penalty on the table
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Speaker 2: as a potential punishment.
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Speaker 3: Where it would have been no argument whatsoever for removing it.
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Speaker 3: If if, if, if this guy doesn't get the death penalty,
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Speaker 3: let's do away with the death penal.
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Speaker 2: And mark Utah. We ain't talking about, you know, Berkeley, California.
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Speaker 2: This is in Utah. So and one of these days
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Speaker 2: you and I've got to devote some time on our
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Speaker 2: M and M Extra podcast to the Charlie and Erica
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Speaker 2: Kirk phenomenon. I got into it last week with a
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Speaker 2: family member. I don't want to embarrass him, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to berate him publicly in any way. But he
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Speaker 2: went off on how much he despises Erica Kirk. Erica Kirk,
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Speaker 2: how do you feel about Charlie?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Hated him? Of course? But seems to hate her even worse.
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Speaker 2: And I think, and I said, this is a grieving
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Speaker 2: widow who's now raising two kids by herself. Oh you
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Speaker 2: think she's raising those kids. There's a narrative mark that
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Speaker 2: has emerged about Erica. Look, he's not alone, He's all
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Speaker 2: he's doing is echoing social media. It's all over and
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Speaker 2: you've seen it. I mean, it's not like this.
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Speaker 3: The reason I asked, the reason I asked, how did
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Speaker 3: he feel about Charlie? Is there some people who were
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Speaker 3: totally on board for Charlie, loved Charlie, and in an
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Speaker 3: odd way, their devotion to Charlie is something that has
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Speaker 3: turned weird and soured and turned into some hostility toward Erica,
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Speaker 3: like she's an unfit standard bearer for the man Fold.
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Speaker 3: There there's all kinds of weirdness and I just don't
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Speaker 3: get any of it, no matter where it comes from.
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Speaker 2: Well I don't. I wish I tried, and I tried,
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Speaker 2: and I love my kids and I'm not again trying
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Speaker 2: to embarrass him, but I tried to understand where are
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Speaker 2: you coming from? What are you talking about? I mean,
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Speaker 2: I get that you didn't agree with Charlie's politics. Hey, kid,
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Speaker 2: they killed him, Okay, so don't have to worry about
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Speaker 2: him anymore. You know you're the people like you that
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Speaker 2: didn't like him. One of them killed him. So what
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Speaker 2: more do you want to do to him? Well? I
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Speaker 2: guess And when you say that, Mark, and I know
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Speaker 2: it sounds morbid. What more do you want to do?
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Speaker 3: Well? I gadge the widow.
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Speaker 2: I guess, savage the widow. That's what's left. Now let's
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Speaker 2: go after Erica. Now you are right, I've actually talked.
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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? I'm kind of glad we're
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Speaker 2: getting into this today? Why not now? With this breaking news?
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Speaker 3: We need to do this someday? How about now, let's
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Speaker 3: do it today?
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Speaker 2: Why not? The judge in the in the Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 2: alleged killer case has left the death penalty on the table.
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Speaker 2: That's breaking today. I have had conversations with three different women,
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Speaker 2: women of a certain age meaning our age right or
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Speaker 2: in our demographic, conservative women, fans of Charlie Kirk, one
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Speaker 2: of them a donor to Turning Point USA. Okay, three
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Speaker 2: separate women, and I would describe each one of them
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Speaker 2: as lovely women, charitable women, god fearing women, conservative Republicans.
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Speaker 2: They loathe her. They think she's a gold digger, an opportunist,
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Speaker 2: they think she's a phony. And Mark, I have these
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Speaker 2: conversations and I'm staring at the phone, thinking, am I
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Speaker 2: losing my mind? Here? Have you? Have you met any
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Speaker 2: of these people that are not These aren't the peace people,
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Speaker 2: the typical lefties like sadly one of my kids who
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Speaker 2: hated Charlie and hates conservatism and all that. We're talking
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Speaker 2: about conservative women who loved what Charlie was all about,
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Speaker 2: and they just hate Erica. What the hell, Mark, what
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Speaker 2: the wanst to be something exactly? So the answer to
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Speaker 2: your question is no, I haven't had a lot of
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Speaker 2: direct conversation. I'm just sort of become aware of it
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Speaker 2: through one or two degrees of separation. And here's another
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Speaker 2: one where somebody has told me about that attitude. So
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Speaker 2: I'm aware of that attitude and maybe it is okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: this is really going to be a bit of a jump.
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Speaker 2: For many women. Charlie was the son they wish they had.
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Speaker 2: There is a protectiveness around him, just a nice thirty
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Speaker 2: year old young man, so conservative, so upstanding, so wonderful,
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Speaker 2: and one of the things they probably loved about him
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Speaker 2: was his devotion to his wife and his family. But
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Speaker 2: with him violently wiped from the scene and she all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden assumes that mantle and becomes the face
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Speaker 2: and voice of the movement, It's like there's something horribly
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Speaker 2: wrong about that. I don't know if there's something traditional
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Speaker 2: and nonfeminist about that, or something that's that's like, you know,
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Speaker 2: sort of trad wife tantrum, where it's just something that
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just not fitting for the little lady
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Speaker 2: to be doing that, or they just don't want anybody.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't want anybody to succeed him in this movement.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it was just so much about him him that
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Speaker 2: they care more about him and this devotion to him
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Speaker 2: than they do about their devotion to Turning Point or
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Speaker 2: his vital work. That's really smart analysis. I think you
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Speaker 2: could be right. Maybe it's and maybe it is driven
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Speaker 2: by the sort of the mother hen nature of some
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Speaker 2: of these women who just feel like, you know, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, maybe they didn't approve of Erica. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: And look, can we stipulate. I always want to look
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Speaker 2: at every side of an issue. I always look at
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Speaker 2: I always want to be fair, and I believe that
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Speaker 2: maybe there'll be a portion of our audience right now
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Speaker 2: who maybe understands it, and maybe this is why there
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Speaker 2: have been some there have been some weird moments. The
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Speaker 2: video of Erica over her his body in the casket.
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Speaker 3: Did you see that video? I don't know that I did.
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Speaker 3: What's that?
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Speaker 2: All right? Let me tell you what that is? They
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Speaker 2: she released a video of Charlie in the casket and
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Speaker 2: she is weeping over his body and like kissing his hand,
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Speaker 2: and somebody took a video of that. I'm sure I got,
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Speaker 2: and people would say it her direction and posted that
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Speaker 2: video on social media. And look, I lost my wife too,
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Speaker 2: I lost a spouse. There's nothing easy about any of
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Speaker 2: that process, says and I hate to even think about
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Speaker 2: judging her. But as I explain this to you, does
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Speaker 2: that sound a little weird to you?
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Speaker 3: Okay? What open casket? Or no?
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Speaker 2: What opens? Kissing his hand and his hands? Like sorry, okay,
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Speaker 2: so open question.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's a little invasive, it's a little
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Speaker 4: out there. But but is it within the overton window
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Speaker 4: of things that I that that I don't think I
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Speaker 4: would have recoiled at that at all.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean just I guess when you
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Speaker 3: phrase it as okay, okay at her, at her direction,
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Speaker 3: if it just happens to be something that somebody takes
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Speaker 3: and then they post it, that's one thing. If it's like, hey,
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Speaker 3: then it seems kind it's my word of the ear,
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Speaker 3: then it might seem a little performative, which.
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Speaker 2: Well that's the word. And when you say invasive, how
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Speaker 2: can it be invasive when Erica obviously you know, agree
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Speaker 2: to it. And again I hate because I think the
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Speaker 2: hatred that's been directed to Erica is demonic. I mean,
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Speaker 2: she's being threatened, her kids are being threatened. And again
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Speaker 2: the rage that my own family member demonstrated. She's h
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Speaker 2: she's a charlatan, she's a phony. She's and I said,
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Speaker 2: don't you have any sympathy for somebody raising two kids. Oh,
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Speaker 2: she's got a whole staff of people raising those kids.
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Speaker 2: She's got you know, she's rich, filthy rich. And the
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Speaker 2: and the perception he has is and maybe these other
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Speaker 2: women do too. Erica kind of just glommed on to
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Speaker 2: Charlie as a as a you know, as an opportunistic
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Speaker 2: way to that into the rule. It's so cruel there's
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Speaker 2: a meanness to it. Mark, It's that's what I tried
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Speaker 2: to say to my kid. You're you're, you're, you're being
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Speaker 2: so cruel, and he's no, not, no, I'm not. Don't
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Speaker 2: you don't you follow what's going on? I know what
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Speaker 2: you're following. You're spending too much time on you know, Instagram.
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Speaker 2: Here's our TikTok. I got an idea, come back to
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Speaker 2: the real world and have some empathy that your mother
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Speaker 2: and I tried to instill in you over somebody whose
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Speaker 2: husband was murdered. For God's sakes. I mean, I'm telling you, Mark,
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Speaker 2: this is the strangest thing. And again I go back.
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Speaker 2: I know we deviated a little bit a moment ago,
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Speaker 2: but I will admit that it was a little peculiar
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Speaker 2: to see that kind of creepy video of her kissing
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Speaker 2: his hand in the cast, getting sobbing and leaning over it.
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Speaker 2: I would never put a video like that out of
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Speaker 2: such an intimate moment.
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Speaker 3: Nor would I. And yet there's kind of a rule
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Speaker 3: and I've extended this to pardon the jump from news
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Speaker 3: stories to like Carmelo Anthony's family, which has gone full
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Speaker 3: activist and embracing the lies surrounding his obvious guilt. I
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Speaker 3: don't bag on them. The reason, the overall principle being,
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Speaker 3: I really try to give people an enormal amount of
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Speaker 3: latitude as to how they grieve.
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Speaker 2: How they grieve, I just give.
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Speaker 3: It because have you ever seen somebody, Let's make it
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Speaker 3: not a particular news story at all. Some people they'll
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Speaker 3: have something horrible happen in their lives. They'll vanish for
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Speaker 3: a month. That would probably be me. They or other
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Speaker 3: people have something horrible in their lives. They're talking to
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Speaker 3: the media that night. It's like, what what do you do?
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Speaker 3: And talking to reporters whatever people want to do or
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Speaker 3: felt to do or driven to do. I have everybody
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Speaker 3: grieves differently, and I probably wouldn't give it. Give anybody
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Speaker 3: grief about their grief.
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Speaker 2: I'm with you. I made a big, terrible mistake at
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Speaker 2: Denise's funeral. I was a little rattled because we I
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Speaker 2: don't know if you remember this story, but Denise's memorial
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Speaker 2: service was at White's Chapel in South Lake and our
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Speaker 2: dear friend John McKellar, who was the pastor, and he
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Speaker 2: delivered a beautiful eulogy. When Denise was sick. Denise and
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Speaker 2: John and his wife Debbie and I went to Disney
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Speaker 2: World and we and we love you know, we're Disney
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Speaker 2: folks and the mckellers are and and John in his
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Speaker 2: eulogy for Denise, reminded the congregation that when we went
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Speaker 2: to Disney World and they had it was at Chris
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Speaker 2: it was over the holidays, and they had the Cinderella
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Speaker 2: Castle all be decked in the beautiful Christmas lights and
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Speaker 2: uh and John John remembered that Denise said this must
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Speaker 2: be what heaven looks like. And so John in the
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Speaker 2: eulogy said that that's what we're Denise right now is
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Speaker 2: at Hearst Cinderella Castle in Heaven right with God, the
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Speaker 2: Father Almighty. But I love that and I love.
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Speaker 3: That absolutely poetic it was.
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Speaker 2: And he put a picture up I'll never forget it
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Speaker 2: on the on the jumbo man at the Big Church
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Speaker 2: all I was on the floor. But anyway, I was
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Speaker 2: rattled because we also got word a day or two
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Speaker 2: before the memorial service that the Westboro Baptist Church was
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Speaker 2: going to pick it outside Denise's funeral. And ye remember
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Speaker 2: those crazies, the ones.
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Speaker 3: That Fred Phelps and the well, yeah, okay, so it
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Speaker 3: take thirty seconds. Everybody knows who these are, people whose
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Speaker 3: perversion of Christianity thinks that that they they should take
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Speaker 3: God's word, which has some things to say about some behaviors.
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Speaker 3: These are people made probably most famous for standing outside
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Speaker 3: the funerals. Let's say there was somebody who was a
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Speaker 3: member of the service, a military member, who happened to
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Speaker 3: be gay. They would stand while they've got the twenty
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Speaker 3: one gun salute and the flag and whatever. They would
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Speaker 3: stand there as close as they could get, with big
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Speaker 3: signs that say God hates fags. That was their little
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Speaker 3: way of getting in their two cents on the issue.
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Speaker 3: And that is of course abysmal.
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Speaker 1: Behave.
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Speaker 2: Well, they're they're they're they're demonic. I mean, they're demons.
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Speaker 2: But I did something. What drew there? What drew their
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Speaker 2: attention and your family because they knew me. You may
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Speaker 2: have remembered this, and I'm I made some news when
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Speaker 2: I did this.
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Speaker 3: You offered to have them on the show.
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Speaker 2: I gave them airtime in exchange and return for that
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Speaker 2: they would leave a funeral alone. The deal was they
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Speaker 2: were going to go protest an Amish kid's funeral. It
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Speaker 2: was remember the church. There was a church shooting at
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Speaker 2: an Amish I think it was an Amish schoolhouse maybe,
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Speaker 2: And there were some children killed in Amish country right
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Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania, I think.
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Speaker 3: Is what was their gripe against the Amish.
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Speaker 2: Well, they that's what they They would always go to.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't just gay soldiers they went to. They went
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Speaker 2: to like any high profile funeral they could go to.
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Speaker 2: It was just anywhere there was anywhere where they thought
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Speaker 2: there'd be media coverage of a funeral, they would go protest.
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Speaker 2: And so they were going to go and I felt
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Speaker 2: so sorry for these poor Amish people because they don't
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Speaker 2: watch the news, they don't even listen to radio or TV.
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Speaker 2: They're going to have these hateful, horrible people outside their
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Speaker 2: loved ones church and protest and and I'm like, holy crap.
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Speaker 2: I don't want them to go there and hurt these people.
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Speaker 2: So I came up with the idea, tell you what,
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Speaker 2: how about you come on my show. I'll put you,
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a national talk show I'll put I'm
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Speaker 2: gonna put Denesh de Suza on with you to debate you,
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Speaker 2: because because your version of scripture ain't the right version
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Speaker 2: of scripture. But Densh can probably set you straight, and
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Speaker 2: in exchange for coming on the show, you'll sign a
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Speaker 2: written promise that you'll leave that family, those families alone,
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Speaker 2: and you won't and you won't protest them. Now, I
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Speaker 2: got a lot of flak for that because some people
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Speaker 2: were very critical of me doing.
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Speaker 3: That same why are you giving them the light of day?
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Speaker 3: You should do that. I think it was a master
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Speaker 3: stroke of genius. Number one pretty great radio, which obviously
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Speaker 3: is the locomotive you know that guides almost any train.
15:47
Speaker 3: But more important than that, you you. It was morally
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Speaker 3: magnificent because in this gesture, which might have rankled the
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Speaker 3: sensibilities of some, you were able to to spare some people,
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Speaker 3: some a horrible thing. It's one of my favorite things
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Speaker 3: you have ever done.
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Speaker 2: Well. I felt like if you could take your show
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Speaker 2: and do a little bit of good in the world,
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Speaker 2: that's what you and I try to do all the
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Speaker 2: time when we're partnering with prison fellowship or food for
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Speaker 2: the poor, we do these things. But in that case,
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Speaker 2: I thought, let's spare these families, and if these monstrous
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Speaker 2: people will agree to stay away just for twenty minutes
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Speaker 2: of airtime or an hour, whatever it was, win win.
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Speaker 2: It's just an hour of my show Who Cares Right,
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Speaker 2: you know? And it was a win win, and I
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Speaker 2: was very proud of it, and I'll always stand by it.
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Speaker 2: Well because of that, they knew me, and that was
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Speaker 2: all that was where the raids, that was on their radar.
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Speaker 2: And so that's why there was a rumor that they
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Speaker 2: were going to come to South Lake, Texas and protest
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Speaker 2: outside of Denise's memorial service. And of course the kids
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Speaker 2: that my kids went nuts. They were like, hey, Dad,
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Speaker 2: how about let's bring some baseball bats with us in
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Speaker 2: the in the limousine to the church. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no,
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Speaker 2: no no, We're not going to have We're not going
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Speaker 2: to start hitting the Westboro Baptist Church. Yeah, as if
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Speaker 2: there wasn't as if there wasn't something else going on, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean, so so I go, I go there and
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Speaker 2: and and we do this the funeral. A yeah, long
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Speaker 2: story short. You know, he showed up and I'll never
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Speaker 2: and this is who I feel terrible about. Do you
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Speaker 2: remember remember Mayor Tom Leppert, of course.
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Speaker 3: Former Dallas mayor, and he was the dress Senate candidate.
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Speaker 2: That's right, he ran for Senate. He was a I
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Speaker 2: think he was a good mayor, right, I mean, I
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Speaker 2: think he was, absolutely And he was a listener to
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Speaker 2: the to the show and to the station. He listened
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Speaker 2: to six sixty and you know, he came to the funeral,
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Speaker 2: which I thought was so touching and uh, a really
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Speaker 2: good guy. I liked him. I don't know we agree
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Speaker 2: on everything politically. Was he a Democrat or a Republican?
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Speaker 2: He was.
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Speaker 3: He was as as you will see in Dallas. He's
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Speaker 3: the sort of kind of Republican for the republic He
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Speaker 3: ran for the Republican nomination.
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Speaker 1: He was.
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Speaker 2: He was a Republican. Yeah, yeah, but he was pretty liberal,
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Speaker 2: got pretty moderate. Anyway, he showed up, which I thought
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Speaker 2: was wonderful. We got I decided, and a lot of funerals.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know this and you've been to funerals.
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately you're supposed to kind of stand there after the
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Speaker 2: service and greet everybody. Yeah, and I didn't want to
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Speaker 2: do that. I just thought I just didn't want to
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Speaker 2: do that because not only was do we have people
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Speaker 2: paying their respects, but God bless them, there were listeners
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Speaker 2: there and just people. I didn't even you'd still you'd
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Speaker 2: still be there. I mean I didn't want to do it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it was hundreds of people, but
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Speaker 2: I just didn't And so we got in the car. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: So we got in the they have the funeral home
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Speaker 2: limousine and all that crap with the and we drove
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Speaker 2: away after the service. And as we were driving away,
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Speaker 2: I saw Tom Leppert standing in the front of the
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Speaker 2: church looking confused because I'm sure he wanted to pay
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Speaker 2: his respects in person. That is the thing, right, You're
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Speaker 2: supposed to like accept people's condolencies.
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Speaker 3: Kind is we're just talking about how you knows no
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Speaker 3: guy who forgives anybody grief about You're right, It's it
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Speaker 3: is a kind of an etiquette thing. So they say
19:04
Speaker 3: funerals are for the living, which they are, because don't care. Uh,
19:09
Speaker 3: that gesture is sort of a show of deference towards
19:13
Speaker 3: those who chose to come.
19:16
Speaker 2: No, I get it, and I and look I was
19:19
Speaker 2: in a special dispensation free pass. But anyway, it's all
19:24
Speaker 2: kind of boy. This is a nice happy morbid edition
19:27
Speaker 2: of a vminem extra what's your funeral story? Mark? Got
19:30
Speaker 2: any you can share? Anybody die? Before we even get.
19:34
Speaker 3: To the imagery of your kids, clubbing Fred Phelps with
19:39
Speaker 3: baseball bats? Thank you, Mark, Hey, Dad, let's bring baseball bats?
19:43
Speaker 3: And I said, and they and they were serious, they said,
19:46
Speaker 3: can we fetch some baseball bats? Well, it's a big limo,
19:49
Speaker 3: it's a stretch limbo. I bet we can from the
19:51
Speaker 3: funeral home. That's all we need is for the Gallagher
19:53
Speaker 3: boys to pop out of the car and start hitting
19:57
Speaker 3: Margie Phelps over the head with the baseball.
20:00
Speaker 2: That'd be the end of me. That'd be my last
20:03
Speaker 2: week on the air. I mean, can you imagine? Can
20:06
Speaker 2: you imagine? And then dealing with that, and then dealing
20:09
Speaker 2: with the stupid do I stay afterwards? And then of
20:12
Speaker 2: course there's the I haven't even started on the very
20:15
Speaker 2: funny Betty Buckley story. I'll save that for another day.
20:19
Speaker 2: We'll save that for another day. It's a great story, though,
20:21
Speaker 2: it's a great story. So anyway, where are we? Where
20:24
Speaker 2: do we leave off?
20:24
Speaker 3: Well, I tell you, if you want to yank yourself
20:26
Speaker 3: back to the last twenty four hours, I heard you
20:29
Speaker 3: address something and you can help me out with it
20:31
Speaker 3: because it's on my radar. Some I had fourteen things
20:34
Speaker 3: going on, and this was not predominantly one of them.
20:37
Speaker 3: And that it involves our guy, Scott Presler, whom we
20:41
Speaker 3: really really admire. And there's some conservatives, some Republicans like him,
20:44
Speaker 3: and some decidedly do not. And there is a lesson
20:48
Speaker 3: in observing which Republicans don't like Scott Presler. Give everybody
20:52
Speaker 3: sixty seconds on who this neat young man is.
20:56
Speaker 2: Well, not only who he is, but we're going to
20:58
Speaker 2: play the clip that when viral, that made him the
21:01
Speaker 2: number one trending topic for many, many hours on X
21:04
Speaker 2: and Twitter. So Scott Presser people recognize him. He's the
21:09
Speaker 2: kid with long hair. He's a big, tall, kind of
21:12
Speaker 2: thin guy with long, long hair and wears cowboy boots
21:16
Speaker 2: and he is a self described voting rights and voter
21:21
Speaker 2: registration warrior. He goes around the country and he registers
21:25
Speaker 2: people to vote, and he has single handedly, frankly, helped
21:28
Speaker 2: get a lot of Republicans elected. He's definitely a Republican.
21:32
Speaker 2: He's not a liberal Democrat.
21:33
Speaker 3: But he is he a convert? Is he one of
21:35
Speaker 3: those folks? He's like an ex smoker.
21:37
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know. I don't know enough about him.
21:40
Speaker 3: You talk while I researched, Well, I guess he had
21:43
Speaker 3: come from the folder.
21:44
Speaker 2: I don't know if he came over from the Democrat side,
21:46
Speaker 2: but but I know that he is indefatigable. He goes
21:49
Speaker 2: from state to state, county to county. He registers people
21:52
Speaker 2: to vote. He's very soft spoken. He's not a he's
21:55
Speaker 2: not a flamethrower or a red meat guy.
21:58
Speaker 3: He's apparently and apparently not a parent, not a convert.
22:00
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of other people because because those people who
22:03
Speaker 3: used to be Liberals that aren't anymore, they are on fire.
22:07
Speaker 2: But anyway, they are on fire. But he's real respectful,
22:09
Speaker 2: and he's always very polite, and he always says peacefully,
22:12
Speaker 2: I respectfully, I'll respectfully blah blah blah. He's a nice guy.
22:16
Speaker 2: I've interviewed him a couple of times and he and
22:19
Speaker 2: he's very very well liked and even loved in Republican
22:23
Speaker 2: party circles because he's done so much. He's the typical
22:27
Speaker 2: he's not typical. He's the quintessential grassroots sort of activist.
22:33
Speaker 2: Get you registered to vote? Are you registered? Do you
22:36
Speaker 2: know how to register? Make sure your neighbors are registered?
22:39
Speaker 2: And he many people say, has gotten a lot of
22:42
Speaker 2: Republicans elected over the last few years. He's devoted years
22:45
Speaker 2: of his life to doing this. I'm also kind of
22:47
Speaker 2: intrigued about who funds him or if he gets donations,
22:51
Speaker 2: because it can't be cheap to go from state to state,
22:54
Speaker 2: you know, doing this, So anyway he goes. And he
22:57
Speaker 2: has been a staunch advocate to get the damn Save
23:02
Speaker 2: America Act passed. He has been a leader in this,
23:06
Speaker 2: in this effort to get this thing done. And he
23:09
Speaker 2: is respectfully calling on John Thune, Mitch McConnell, Lisa Murkowski
23:15
Speaker 2: drop your objections. There are ways to get this done.
23:18
Speaker 2: And I've talked to Mike Lee or Rick Scott rather
23:21
Speaker 2: than others who say there's a way to get this done.
23:23
Speaker 2: There they can. They can either do it's they call
23:26
Speaker 2: it the talking filibuster. You could you could nuke the filibuster.
23:30
Speaker 2: But there are different paths that could be taken. Don't
23:33
Speaker 2: believe the narrative that you that there's no chance of
23:37
Speaker 2: even getting that pass. That's not true. It's simply a lie. Anyway,
23:41
Speaker 2: So they are holding their South Dakota State convention last night.
23:46
Speaker 2: They're out on recess. The Senate John Thune ordered them
23:49
Speaker 2: to all go on vacation how about that for timing
23:52
Speaker 2: with all that's going on in the world. So they're
23:54
Speaker 2: holding their South Dakota State Convention and Scott Pressler has
23:58
Speaker 2: a ticket that he a pair has paid for and
24:01
Speaker 2: he gets to the entrance and they won't let him in.
24:06
Speaker 2: He's been banned from being able to get into the convention. Well,
24:10
Speaker 2: he whips out his cell phone and here's what happened.
24:14
Speaker 2: As he is apparently doing a live stream explaining what's
24:17
Speaker 2: going on, the Sergeant at Arm, Sergeant of Arm, the
24:21
Speaker 2: Sergeant of Arms shows up from the South Dakota is
24:24
Speaker 2: it at Arms? Sergeant at argent? He shows up. This
24:28
Speaker 2: guy shows up in the middle of this, Well, let's
24:32
Speaker 2: just leave. Here's how this all played out.
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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, this is Scott Pressler. I'm here at the
24:37
Speaker 5: South Dakota State Convention. I have a ticket and they
24:41
Speaker 5: are saying that I can't come in. So we're going
24:45
Speaker 5: to find out very shortly why I am not being allowed.
24:49
Speaker 5: As one of the biggest supporters of President Donald J.
24:52
Speaker 1: Trump, I'm big on Facebook too, and I'm saying you
24:55
Speaker 1: can't come in because guess what you're posting this little
24:59
Speaker 1: piss and moans on Facebook.
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Speaker 3: So you just get the hell out of here. Thank you.
25:05
Speaker 5: You see you see how that you see how the
25:07
Speaker 5: grassroots are welcomed in sent Majority leader foonds territory. Interesting,
25:15
Speaker 5: my friends, I don't think this is a good reflection
25:20
Speaker 5: of the South Dakota GOP, but I thank him for
25:25
Speaker 5: his honesty.
25:26
Speaker 2: Though, what's your? What's your?
25:27
Speaker 5: Matthew Bruhner, sergeant at arms.
25:31
Speaker 3: Great, let's let's tox him.
25:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, Matthew Brunner has been fired. He has been relieved
25:37
Speaker 2: of his duties, and the state GOP chairman has apologized
25:42
Speaker 2: profusely to Scott Presler publicly on social media. But I
25:46
Speaker 2: want to play for you what the chairman said? Mark
25:48
Speaker 2: chairman Jim Eschenbaum another reporter after this incident happened and
25:53
Speaker 2: it went viral big time last night. Right, it's all
25:56
Speaker 2: over social media. Well, Jim Eschenbaum confer to the reporter
26:01
Speaker 2: and God bless his honesty, confirmed that it was indeed
26:06
Speaker 2: Senate Majority Leader John Thune who person who personally banned
26:12
Speaker 2: Scott Presler from it from getting into the convention. Here
26:15
Speaker 2: was that exchange on tape.
26:16
Speaker 5: Did John Thune specifically asked that Scott Presler.
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Speaker 3: Not attend this event?
26:20
Speaker 1: Yes, okay.
26:21
Speaker 3: Is John Thune a member of the Convention Committee?
26:25
Speaker 5: No, so, how does he have authority to remove people
26:28
Speaker 5: from events?
26:29
Speaker 1: Yeah?
26:31
Speaker 4: He has a.
26:35
Speaker 3: He has a lot of security in there in the middle.
26:38
Speaker 5: Is mister Presler considered a security threat?
26:42
Speaker 2: That for me?
26:43
Speaker 3: But I'm not going to go in there and argue
26:46
Speaker 3: with the secret Service.
26:48
Speaker 1: You maybe James.
26:51
Speaker 2: Isn't that wild? And you know the reporter result into
26:54
Speaker 2: procedure and all that. But I couldn't get past the
26:56
Speaker 2: first question. Can you confirm was it was it John
26:59
Speaker 2: Thune who ban Scott Presler? Yes, that came from the
27:03
Speaker 2: that came from the state chairman. Uh, Mark, this John
27:07
Speaker 2: Thune's gotta go, He's gotta go.
27:10
Speaker 3: Mixed mindus some of me her real quick, guys, So
27:13
Speaker 3: my my, my dog can explain this, and and every
27:18
Speaker 3: and everyone clearly knows what happened here. I love Scott
27:22
Speaker 3: Presler love I'm a fan of his brand of activism,
27:26
Speaker 3: and I believe in the things that he is supporting.
27:30
Speaker 3: Senator Fun decidedly does not. Senator fun is by far
27:35
Speaker 3: the biggest Republican in the state and one of the
27:38
Speaker 3: most powerful people in America. Scott Presler's presence at this
27:44
Speaker 3: event where John Fun is would be a colossal embarrassment
27:48
Speaker 3: to John Fun. So that is the conflict, and that
27:51
Speaker 3: is the problem, and Fun is the problematic part of
27:54
Speaker 3: this equation. But obviously Fun and his forces, we're not
28:00
Speaker 3: going to allow a guy with a gazillion followers into
28:03
Speaker 3: an event where all he was going to do was
28:06
Speaker 3: make clear the John Thune's failure to do what most
28:10
Speaker 3: of his voters want him to do. So you could
28:13
Speaker 3: have foreseen this a mile away.
28:15
Speaker 2: Well, but the strange thing is to make to make
28:18
Speaker 2: an example, if you will, out of this mild mannered,
28:22
Speaker 2: likable kid. I mean he's not he's not going to
28:25
Speaker 2: stand up and he's not gonna start screaming in the
28:29
Speaker 2: middle of the convention. You know he's not gonna do
28:31
Speaker 2: He wouldn't have disrupted. In fact, that was one of
28:32
Speaker 2: the exchanges, was you think Scott Pressler is a security
28:36
Speaker 2: threat to the speaker? I mean majority, of.
28:40
Speaker 3: Course what Congressman Al Green waving a cane? Of course not.
28:45
Speaker 3: But in his quiet, mannerly effective, precise way that almost
28:52
Speaker 3: makes him worse if you're John Fun, because it's not
28:55
Speaker 3: some lunatic, you can dismiss it's not so control. He's
28:59
Speaker 3: just a obstintive, thoughtful young man who's every word spoken
29:05
Speaker 3: to that event would have shown a bright light on
29:07
Speaker 3: how inadequate a warrior. John Fune is on the Save
29:11
Speaker 3: America Act issue, and they wanted no part of.
29:14
Speaker 2: That, which is why I maintained they got to step
29:16
Speaker 2: in and get this guy removed. Now I understand there
29:19
Speaker 2: is a procedural way to get him removed, Well, Trump
29:22
Speaker 2: and Vance could do it. Why not removed as what
29:27
Speaker 2: as Senate majority leader? He's got to be removed as
29:29
Speaker 2: a Senate majority leader. You don't think Rick Scott would
29:32
Speaker 2: be a better Senate Majority.
29:33
Speaker 3: Leader than John would or Tom Conton or anyone of
29:36
Speaker 3: a number of folks. But the we're okay, no, never happened.
29:42
Speaker 2: Oh, really like Biden, Just like Biden won't get pushed
29:47
Speaker 2: out of the price.
29:50
Speaker 3: Please don't with with We're gonna have listen, go go
29:53
Speaker 3: around the block and get a sandwich and come back,
29:55
Speaker 3: and we'll have a new Congress. It will very soon
29:58
Speaker 3: be time to to pick. It'll be it'll be too late.
30:03
Speaker 3: It'll be too late, because it's going to be you're
30:06
Speaker 3: talking about post November three.
30:08
Speaker 2: This is going to happen. Now. I'm telling you, right now,
30:11
Speaker 2: you you mark my words, just like I've predicted a
30:14
Speaker 2: couple of other things. I'm telling you, I think President
30:18
Speaker 2: Trump's going to lose patience with John Thune, and I
30:21
Speaker 2: think they're going to step in and they're going to
30:23
Speaker 2: figure out a way to get him out of there.
30:24
Speaker 2: And there's a way, and it's a procedural thing. You
30:27
Speaker 2: can look it up there. It has something to do
30:29
Speaker 2: with it.
30:29
Speaker 3: This is me looking it up because I'm pretty fascinated
30:32
Speaker 3: by it. The first thing that occurs to me is
30:34
Speaker 3: should a president be able to jack with who the
30:37
Speaker 3: Senate Majority leader is? And if you're thinking, shoot, yeah,
30:40
Speaker 3: imagine a Democrat president trying to get rid of Senate
30:43
Speaker 3: Majority Leader Rick Scott. It's president no, but.
30:46
Speaker 2: It's a wait, but it's a Republican president and a
30:49
Speaker 2: Republican majority leader.
30:50
Speaker 3: That's the points. Let's let's say it were a Let's
30:56
Speaker 3: say we're a Rhino president trying to get rid of
31:00
Speaker 3: a conservative grassroots activist that he didn't.
31:03
Speaker 2: You look it up. You look it up on the
31:06
Speaker 2: Twitter machine. There, you go ahead and see there is
31:09
Speaker 2: a way. Has it involves the vice president to market
31:12
Speaker 2: has something to do with JD. Vance coming in. There's
31:15
Speaker 2: some kind of a procedural. The vice president is the president,
31:20
Speaker 2: he's the president of the Senate, so he gets called
31:23
Speaker 2: into this at Trump's direction, and there is a process
31:27
Speaker 2: where John Thune could be removed as a Senate majority leader.
31:31
Speaker 2: And and for some reason, let's all acknowledge this. Trump
31:35
Speaker 2: has danced around John Thune for a while and has
31:38
Speaker 2: been weirdly respectful of John Thune. I think it's because
31:42
Speaker 2: he wants Thun to play ball and he wants to
31:45
Speaker 2: be respectful. I can see the look on your face.
31:47
Speaker 2: I can see it.
31:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't talk. Talk show host groc says, Nope. Maybe
31:54
Speaker 3: here you sometimes you got to ask the right question, right, right?
31:57
Speaker 2: Right?
31:57
Speaker 3: Can a president or VP get rid of a Senate
32:02
Speaker 3: majority leader? Nope? Neither the president nor the VP can
32:05
Speaker 3: remove or directly get rid of Why not? Senate Majority
32:08
Speaker 3: leader is an internal leadership position chosen by the senators themselves.
32:12
Speaker 3: It's not a constitutional office appointed by a confirmed by
32:15
Speaker 3: the President. Then that goes through the process of how
32:17
Speaker 3: you become that VP's limited Senate role. He is the
32:21
Speaker 3: President of the Senate, but the role is mostly ceremonial
32:24
Speaker 3: presiding over the Senate, casting tie breaking votes vps, no
32:27
Speaker 3: authority over party leadership positions like majority leaders.
32:31
Speaker 2: So I mean, okay, well here, according to chat GPT.
32:37
Speaker 3: Ut ais dueling ais.
32:41
Speaker 2: While you do it, and I always love it when
32:43
Speaker 2: GROC is supposed to be the conservative version and chat
32:46
Speaker 2: GPT gives a much more conservative answer. Yes, there are
32:50
Speaker 2: a few ways that a Senate majority leader can be removed.
32:54
Speaker 2: Their own party replaces them. This is the most common route.
32:58
Speaker 2: The majority leader, the leader that's not the person. Well,
33:01
Speaker 2: they're gonna come on, they're gonna do that at the
33:03
Speaker 2: direction of the president. What are you talking about that,
33:05
Speaker 2: I'm saying Trump.
33:10
Speaker 3: Trump's direction.
33:11
Speaker 2: But but the majority leader. But the majority leader can
33:15
Speaker 2: be removed. It's the majority leader, or according to Chad
33:18
Speaker 2: jput the major Well, that's.
33:19
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, remove him, remove him. Pardon me for
33:23
Speaker 3: actually hearing the words come out of your mouth. I
33:25
Speaker 3: find that that you thought that there was something somehow
33:28
Speaker 3: that Trump or Vance could directly some wand they.
33:32
Speaker 2: They can tell them the Republican Party, we want to
33:34
Speaker 2: get him removed. The majority leader is chosen by the
33:37
Speaker 2: senators in the majority party. If enough members of that
33:40
Speaker 2: party lose confidence in the leader, they can hold a
33:43
Speaker 2: leadership election and choose someone else, or you know, but
33:47
Speaker 2: that again, you're right, we're semantics here, But I'm just saying,
33:50
Speaker 2: how much more are we going to put up with
33:52
Speaker 2: with this guy? How many if there's Republican here's my theory,
33:57
Speaker 2: there's more Republicans who are wlietly rooting against the Save
34:02
Speaker 2: America Act, then we know when we know there's four
34:05
Speaker 2: or five of them. There's Murkowski, there's Tom Tillis, I'm
34:09
Speaker 2: sure Bill Cassidy, you've got maybe Thoon. Susan Collins said
34:15
Speaker 2: she'd vote for the Save America Act, so she flipped.
34:17
Speaker 2: But I got a feeling that, to your point, the
34:20
Speaker 2: reason it will never happen is because there's not going
34:22
Speaker 2: to be enough senators in the Republicans.
34:24
Speaker 3: Well, but too, now that you've sent me into this
34:27
Speaker 3: delicious and live, deep dive into this rabbit hole, how
34:32
Speaker 3: many how many senators would it take? Simple majority? Is
34:36
Speaker 3: all I said? At the fifty three, So twenty seven
34:42
Speaker 3: Republicans and he's not majority leader anymore. And suddenly this
34:46
Speaker 3: thing that I said about five minutes ago would never
34:48
Speaker 3: happen looks suddenly plausible. Welcome to in real time.
34:53
Speaker 2: See, we'll get there. It may take us a while,
34:55
Speaker 2: we may have a torturous route, but we'll get there.
34:58
Speaker 2: Some conclusions we had into a weekend we head into
35:02
Speaker 2: the fourth of July, we're gonna got some we've got
35:04
Speaker 2: some M and M extras planned for you. Next week,
35:06
Speaker 2: we're gonna have some patriotic stuff put together, and you're
35:09
Speaker 2: also going to take another little bit of R and R.
35:12
Speaker 3: Correct, I am, I've got, I've got next week, next
35:15
Speaker 3: week is off, and then back on July sixth. And
35:18
Speaker 3: there was one thing. It'll just take a.
35:20
Speaker 2: Couple of the way quick house grape of note. I'm
35:22
Speaker 2: probably gonna be off six seventh and eighth exactly. That's right,
35:26
Speaker 2: that's right, that's right. Now, that's quite right.
35:29
Speaker 3: There's one speaking of recurring features of Mike and Mark,
35:33
Speaker 3: I mentioned we we mentioned that there was something we
35:35
Speaker 3: were going to do, and we'd best not deny the
35:37
Speaker 3: public this. Ladies and gentlemen. Boomers discussing their medical procedures.
35:42
Speaker 3: That's right, Boomers discussing their medical prosps. I forgot you
35:45
Speaker 3: had your don't make this not angioplastic edge your grim,
35:51
Speaker 3: I think the edgioplasties where they run the balloon up
35:53
Speaker 3: your crotch so that your blood can throw. So this
35:58
Speaker 3: this was the contrast to die right and the detail,
36:03
Speaker 3: you know, scanning of the thing. So I do commercials
36:06
Speaker 3: for BIA Scan of Los Calinas, which sends you through
36:09
Speaker 3: the scan thing without the just sort of visually looking
36:11
Speaker 3: inside your body. Right, And I'm also sixty eight. Both
36:14
Speaker 3: my mom and my dad had heart disease, so I'm
36:15
Speaker 3: just lucky to make it to lunchtime every day. So
36:18
Speaker 3: doctor Duncan said, hey, with the heart history and being
36:22
Speaker 3: sixty eight and with a slightly elevated calcification score, what
36:25
Speaker 3: do we do the CT And your gram said, sure,
36:27
Speaker 3: let's go nothing alarming, let's just do it. Just seems
36:29
Speaker 3: like a good idea. So I go in there, went
36:32
Speaker 3: to Texas Texas Health in Denton, and it was I'm
36:37
Speaker 3: fascinated by medical technology and the experience and all these things.
36:41
Speaker 3: And so they gave me a medication meant to prolol
36:47
Speaker 3: tart rate, which is just fun to say. That kind
36:49
Speaker 3: of keeps your heart rate under control because you can't
36:51
Speaker 3: you can't be going in there fluttering like a rabbit.
36:54
Speaker 3: Because then I guess the pictures are blurry or something
36:56
Speaker 3: like that. So my heart rate was good, my blood
36:58
Speaker 3: pressure was good. Creatinine for kidney function because you've got
37:02
Speaker 3: to be able to flush the die out of your
37:03
Speaker 3: system efficiently. It all worked great, and it went absolutely superbly.
37:08
Speaker 3: And here really is the crazy thing that's sort of
37:11
Speaker 3: the point of bringing it up. You ever have a
37:13
Speaker 3: medical test and then sit around in your house for
37:16
Speaker 3: a week waiting for somebody to anoint you with a
37:19
Speaker 3: phone call in which you finally learn what we finally
37:23
Speaker 3: danged to tell the patient what the situation is. I
37:28
Speaker 3: don't know if everybody does this, but in big plug
37:31
Speaker 3: for Texas Health, I guess yesterday. So I did the
37:34
Speaker 3: thing yesterday at about three at six o'clock, bloop, you
37:38
Speaker 3: have a new test result in your Texas Health app.
37:41
Speaker 3: And so here's what I did, once again speaking of Ai.
37:44
Speaker 3: It was the test result which was in this Egyptian
37:47
Speaker 3: hieroglyphic of medical language of this and that and the
37:50
Speaker 3: descending artery of this and that. So I copied and
37:55
Speaker 3: pasted the whole thing, sent it to groc and said
37:57
Speaker 3: can you turn this into English for me? Boom, and
38:01
Speaker 3: it did, and it was just fine. I'm a good
38:05
Speaker 3: idea for me to eat better, exercise more, and you know,
38:10
Speaker 3: don't take up smoking.
38:11
Speaker 2: Which I have no look at but look at you.
38:13
Speaker 2: We talked so much about AI and Grock and chat,
38:16
Speaker 2: GBT and all of this. Look at you using it
38:18
Speaker 2: as a tool to get to get a layman's explanation
38:22
Speaker 2: of a complicated medical analysis, and Grock broke it down
38:26
Speaker 2: for you. Layman's How cool is that.
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Speaker 3: I've had it. I've had it do this with legal contracts,
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Speaker 3: legal documents that are fifty pages of gibberish. I said, hey,
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Speaker 3: what does this mean to me? Boop ten seconds, here's
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Speaker 3: the real world ramification of this real estate thing, this transaction.
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Speaker 2: You're using it way more than I am. You're using
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Speaker 2: I gotta get I gotta get on it. I got
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Speaker 2: to start using it more and more. I had a
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Speaker 2: confect I even had a contractual issue come up this week,
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Speaker 2: and Mike, I'm glad you now. I'll ask them, thank you.
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Speaker 3: I'll make a note he doesn't charge it, doesn't charge
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Speaker 3: you six hundred dollars an hour either.
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Speaker 2: I love that. Well, good for you. I'm glad you're
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Speaker 2: healthy or well I'm healthy and well, happy forth of July.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk next week and we'll talk when we're back.
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Speaker 2: God bless America and uh Turkey, just stand by because
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Speaker 2: you may have a visit for.
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Speaker 3: For World Cup to come. Us A U s A
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Speaker 3: U s A. Let's win this thing. Huh. Who's winning? Mike, Mike,
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Speaker 3: all I hear, all I see?
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Speaker 2: Is you talking about watching for two and a half
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Speaker 2: hours a scoreless tie? I watch. I'd rather watch Paint
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Speaker 2: Drive than that, but that. God bless you and happy
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Speaker 2: for the July. I love you.
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Speaker 3: Happy Birthday America.
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