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- 0:02Speaker 1: Peedo Krandlin live on Skying's Australia.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Good evening, welcome to show. Great to have your company.
- 0:09Speaker 2: He's what's coming up on credline. A massive day for
- 0:12Speaker 2: US presidential race. Joe Biden bowing out now predicted to
- 0:16Speaker 2: you this would happen for some time. We'll go to
- 0:18Speaker 2: Washington shortly for all the analysis and what this means
- 0:21Speaker 2: both the Democrat but also the Republican campaigns. Accusations of
- 0:25Speaker 2: lawlessness against the CFMU continue to mount as Australians are
- 0:30Speaker 2: left paying for the cost of their out of control thuggerye.
- 0:34Speaker 2: The housing market I bears the impact, and the Labor
- 0:38Speaker 2: Party remains unwilling to take the union head on. We'll
- 0:41Speaker 2: speak to a former building watchdog about what's really gone
- 0:44Speaker 2: on inside the CFMUU Bo's Ashoka for Labor in the
- 0:48Speaker 2: latest News poll, with more than two thirds of voters
- 0:50Speaker 2: abandoning the Prime Minister as pre third PM as the
- 0:54Speaker 2: likelihood of minority government continues to grow and there's still
- 0:58Speaker 2: a lot that could happen between now and the Democratic
- 1:01Speaker 2: Convention in August, but already the Republicans are banking on
- 1:04Speaker 2: Kamala Harris as the candidate and they've come out swinging
- 1:08Speaker 2: with it. Hours of the departure of Joe Biden.
- 1:12Speaker 3: Carmelin knew Joe couldn't do the job, so she did it.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Look what she got done. A border in vision, runaway infleetion,
- 1:19Speaker 3: the American dream dead. They created this mess. They know
- 1:24Speaker 3: Kamala owns this failed record.
- 1:28Speaker 2: We'll stay with this because, as I've said for almost
- 1:30Speaker 2: two years, there was no way that Joe Biden would
- 1:33Speaker 2: be on the ballot come November.
- 1:35Speaker 4: And once the world saw.
- 1:36Speaker 2: His mental decline during that first presidential debate, even those
- 1:40Speaker 2: involved in the cover up could no longer hire the reality.
- 1:43Speaker 4: The time was up for the lead Democrat.
- 1:46Speaker 2: It was one thing to hide him away last time
- 1:49Speaker 2: using the excuse of the pandemic, but this time his
- 1:52Speaker 2: decline was unmistakable. Even changing the stairs on Air Force
- 1:58Speaker 2: One couldn't save him anyway.
- 2:15Speaker 5: I want to hand it over to the President of Ukraine,
- 2:18Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, President.
- 2:19Speaker 6: Putin dealing with everything we have to do with. Look
- 2:27Speaker 6: if we finally beat Medicare to the.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Today, a procession of Democratic Party royalty from the Obamas
- 2:38Speaker 2: and Clinton's down all lined up to praise Biden as
- 2:41Speaker 2: a great patriot and a consequential president. Now I'm not
- 2:45Speaker 2: so sure after running is a centrist and a healer.
- 2:49Speaker 2: It turned out to be the most left wing president ever,
- 2:52Speaker 2: with all in our standard, climate and identity obsessions and
- 2:56Speaker 2: the so called Inflation Reduction Act which is a center
- 3:00Speaker 2: a green energy boondoggle for Australia. Though we can be
- 3:04Speaker 2: grateful to him for aucus which wouldn't have happened without
- 3:08Speaker 2: his support. Even if he did manage to forget Scott Morrison's.
- 3:13Speaker 5: Name, I want to thank that fellow down on him,
- 3:17Speaker 5: Thank you very much.
- 3:18Speaker 7: Bell.
- 3:21Speaker 4: A big question for.
- 3:22Speaker 2: The president now is how can he continue as commander
- 3:25Speaker 2: in chief until January? With yesterday's admission he isn't fit
- 3:30Speaker 2: to run for the White House, So expect the pressure
- 3:33Speaker 2: to grow for Joe Biden to step down early and
- 3:36Speaker 2: give Kamala Harris the advantage of incumbency. If that doesn't happen,
- 3:42Speaker 2: it'll be a sign that the Democratic Party would prefer
- 3:44Speaker 2: to have her campaigning rather than governing, where the pressure
- 3:49Speaker 2: on her would be much greater. Don't forget that she
- 3:52Speaker 2: wasn't originally picked for any sort of expertise. She was
- 3:57Speaker 2: picked because she ticked all the right ident boxes as
- 4:01Speaker 2: Joe Biden himself all that admitted.
- 4:05Speaker 5: And this morning, all across the nation, little girls woke up,
- 4:10Speaker 5: especially little black and brown girls who so often feel
- 4:14Speaker 5: overlooked and undervalued in their communities. But today, today, just
- 4:20Speaker 5: maybe they're seeing themselves for the first time in a
- 4:24Speaker 5: new way.
- 4:27Speaker 2: You can even see in that grab, can't you? And
- 4:29Speaker 2: that was only four years ago? How much he has declined?
- 4:33Speaker 2: And Harris too well, she's failed lamentably at the one
- 4:37Speaker 2: and only job she's ever been given, namely stopping the
- 4:39Speaker 2: human wave coming across America's southern borders. Unsurprisingly, this is
- 4:45Speaker 2: where the Republican attack ads launched within hours of Biden's announcement.
- 4:50Speaker 4: For their focus, Kamala was in on it.
- 4:54Speaker 3: She covered up Joe's obvious mental decline.
- 4:56Speaker 8: Our president is in good shape, in good health, tireless,
- 5:00Speaker 8: and I have no doubt about the strength of the
- 5:03Speaker 8: work that we have done.
- 5:04Speaker 3: But Carmelin knew Joe couldn't do the job, so she
- 5:07Speaker 3: did it. Look what she got done, a border invasion,
- 5:10Speaker 3: runaway inflation, the American dream or dead. They created this mass.
- 5:15Speaker 3: They know Kamala owns this failed record.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Still, the ability of United Democratic Party to make a
- 5:23Speaker 2: real contest of the election should not be underestimated. Expect
- 5:28Speaker 2: the left wing media to see every rebuttal point from
- 5:31Speaker 2: Trump as an attack against Harris, not as a rival candidate,
- 5:36Speaker 2: but a hit against her as a woman. But Trump
- 5:39Speaker 2: has squared off against a woman before in Hillary Clinton,
- 5:43Speaker 2: and he won least of all because women walked away
- 5:47Speaker 2: from Clinton and blue collar workers in all the must
- 5:50Speaker 2: wing swing states, and with Californian woke Harris swing states,
- 5:56Speaker 2: perhaps even women will be a problem again. But for
- 6:00Speaker 2: all the Harris spin today, let's not forget she's yet
- 6:03Speaker 2: to be confirmed as the Democratic candidate. In her own statement,
- 6:08Speaker 2: she said she wanted to earn the nomination. While those
- 6:12Speaker 2: who might have run against her have folded men like
- 6:14Speaker 2: Gavin Usam and Pete Bodhaje, she still hasn't been endorsed
- 6:18Speaker 2: by powerbrokers like Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi. Will the
- 6:24Speaker 2: August convention then be the mother of all brawls with
- 6:27Speaker 2: someone else taking Harris on, or will the opposition folds
- 6:31Speaker 2: and the Democrats unite behind her despite her poor record
- 6:35Speaker 2: and indifferent polls, as their pick to take on Trump.
- 6:40Speaker 2: For those dismayed that the Trump Biden contest a Trump
- 6:44Speaker 2: Harris contest.
- 6:45Speaker 4: It would be.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Hardly more edifying if this is her best to date.
- 7:00Speaker 8: That's why we're here today, because we have the ability
- 7:03Speaker 8: to see what can be unburdened by what has been around.
- 7:12Speaker 9: I am Kamala Harris.
- 7:13Speaker 4: My pnouns are she and her.
- 7:14Speaker 8: I'm a woman sitting at the table wearing a blue suit.
- 7:18Speaker 8: You think you just fell out of a coconut tree.
- 7:23Speaker 8: You exists in the context of all in which you
- 7:28Speaker 8: live and what came before you.
- 7:32Speaker 2: And after insisting for three and a half years that
- 7:35Speaker 2: Joe Biden was at the top of his game, who's
- 7:38Speaker 2: going to believe the Democrats now over all that lying.
- 7:42Speaker 4: How credible will.
- 7:43Speaker 2: They be insisting that that woman Kamala Harris really is
- 7:47Speaker 2: the best person to shape the destiny of the free
- 7:50Speaker 2: world in the most challenging times we've faced in eight
- 7:54Speaker 2: decades or more. And that's all particularly so when she's
- 7:58Speaker 2: been knee deep in the house cover up. It's tried
- 8:02Speaker 2: to hire the true state of Biden's health from US
- 8:05Speaker 2: voters and the wider world. Anthony Alberinezi might have taken
- 8:15Speaker 2: leave this week, but the CFMU crisis has not gone away,
- 8:18Speaker 2: ongoing claims from senior labor figures that they knew nothing,
- 8:23Speaker 2: they were entirely innocent of any knowledge whatsoever of alleged
- 8:27Speaker 2: criminality in the building industry.
- 8:29Speaker 4: Well they don't stack up.
- 8:31Speaker 2: They knew it and they tolerated it because they were
- 8:35Speaker 2: the benefisheries of the cfwu's millions and its patronage, and
- 8:41Speaker 2: everybody knows it.
- 8:43Speaker 10: They've created a housing crisis by empowering the CFMAU, which
- 8:48Speaker 10: is involved with organized criminals and has driven up the
- 8:52Speaker 10: prices of projects.
- 8:55Speaker 2: Two months back, Ashphalters working on Melbourne Suburban Railroad complain
- 9:00Speaker 2: to the office of Victorian Infrastructure Minister Daddy Pearson about
- 9:04Speaker 2: alleged CFMU intimidation. The Minister then referred this to the
- 9:10Speaker 2: person responsible for running the project, but on the weekend
- 9:14Speaker 2: he repeatedly refused to say what his office was told
- 9:18Speaker 2: and what he'd actually referred for investigation.
- 9:22Speaker 11: Sorry, meeting occurred, I think in May. Those matters were
- 9:26Speaker 11: referred on to the department. A meeting occurred and it
- 9:29Speaker 11: was referred on to the Director General. Well, ultimately the
- 9:35Speaker 11: meeting occurred involving my office. The meeting occurred I was
- 9:39Speaker 11: not there. Well, I think we get caught up in
- 9:40Speaker 11: surmanity you.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Eventually the minister had to be rescued from his embarrassment
- 9:46Speaker 2: and obfuscation by the Premier.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Can I be can I how about we talk a
- 9:54Speaker 3: little bit about the review, the terms of reference of
- 9:57Speaker 3: the review that we released.
- 9:59Speaker 10: Yes, yes, today.
- 10:03Speaker 2: How the media let her get away with that in
- 10:05Speaker 2: that press conference is beyond me. On the weekend too,
- 10:09Speaker 2: the Premier, just Into Allen apported a former deputy secretary
- 10:13Speaker 2: in the Department of Premier in Cabinet to look into
- 10:15Speaker 2: these latter's claims of intimidation, corruption and organized crime links
- 10:20Speaker 2: and to provide an initial report within two months. A
- 10:24Speaker 2: former middling level public servant. I mean, are they kiddy?
- 10:28Speaker 2: Not a judge, not a retired police chief, not a prosecutor.
- 10:32Speaker 2: I can guarantee they'll get about as much truth on
- 10:35Speaker 2: the table as Jennifer Coke did when she investigated Victoria's
- 10:39Speaker 2: hotel quarantine fiasco that left eight hundred dead.
- 10:45Speaker 7: I can't specifically recall.
- 10:46Speaker 9: I can't recall.
- 10:48Speaker 4: I presume I did.
- 10:49Speaker 10: I don't recall the conversation.
- 10:51Speaker 4: And I have some memory, but not for memory.
- 10:53Speaker 7: I don't recall specifically, not to my recollection.
- 10:56Speaker 3: I have no recollection of that.
- 10:58Speaker 2: I can't specifically recall, but for one, every one of
- 11:04Speaker 2: those faces have now left and no one has been
- 11:08Speaker 2: held responsible. Over the weekend, the former head of the
- 11:11Speaker 2: building watchdog the ABCC, set of the allegations against the
- 11:16Speaker 2: CFMU that thuggery and I quote thuggery and standover tactics
- 11:20Speaker 2: have prevailed for decades and that extra costs on projects
- 11:24Speaker 2: ran to millions of dollars? Are we talking to that
- 11:27Speaker 2: former chief investigator at the ABCC, Nigel Hatchkiss a little
- 11:32Speaker 2: later on? If you want to know why everything to
- 11:35Speaker 2: do with building costs so much more and takes so long,
- 11:39Speaker 2: look no further than the CFMU and the extra costs
- 11:42Speaker 2: they impose on industry. No taxpayer should let the Prime
- 11:47Speaker 2: Minister get away with this. I certainly won't. Finally, what
- 11:57Speaker 2: about this? Did you know the Australian government's offering creative
- 12:00Speaker 2: scholarships to employees of the Palestinian Authority as well as
- 12:04Speaker 2: other Palestinian residents at the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem,
- 12:10Speaker 2: All though I neither until today, Pennywog might have been
- 12:15Speaker 2: shame to put on hold funding to the troubled un
- 12:18Speaker 2: refugee body that works in Gaza UNRA over its reported
- 12:22Speaker 2: links to Hummus. But these scholarships could be seen as
- 12:26Speaker 2: another way of delivering those dollars. Clearly, we're talking about
- 12:30Speaker 2: a lot of money because lucky reciproents get to return
- 12:35Speaker 2: airfares to Australia and establishment allowance once they arrive. Are
- 12:39Speaker 2: quote contribution to living expenses, all the university tuition costs
- 12:45Speaker 2: and more. Plus a scholarship is theirs for the entire
- 12:48Speaker 2: length of their course, not just one year. Now, I
- 12:52Speaker 2: can't tell you exactly how much of your money is
- 12:55Speaker 2: involved here because Pennywong's office still hasn't answered the questions
- 12:59Speaker 2: I see them. Earlier today were given that about two
- 13:03Speaker 2: thirds of Palestinians support HMAS and they approved of the
- 13:08Speaker 2: October seven attacks on Israel.
- 13:11Speaker 4: So says the polls, it's.
- 13:14Speaker 2: Hard to see how these scholarships are advancing Australia's national interest. Now,
- 13:19Speaker 2: what's the full cost here to taxpayers? What sort of
- 13:23Speaker 2: security checks are conducted on these Palestinian authority workers? Can
- 13:28Speaker 2: they bring their families to live in Australia when they study.
- 13:33Speaker 2: That's just some of the detail I sought from the
- 13:35Speaker 2: Minister's office, information that you, as a taxpayer, deserved to know.
- 13:40Speaker 2: Now this looks to me like yet another instance of
- 13:43Speaker 2: Labor using your taxpayer dollars for things you'd never support.
- 13:49Speaker 4: If you were asked.
- 13:56Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Camber now with Olivia Kaisley
- 13:58Speaker 2: for the headlines.
- 14:00Speaker 12: Good evening. Fewer than one in three Australians want either
- 14:04Speaker 12: Anthony Alberesi or Peter Dutton as Prime Minister, As newspoll
- 14:08Speaker 12: shows the contest between the two major parties is heading up.
- 14:11Speaker 12: The latest News poll shows a coalition up two points
- 14:14Speaker 12: in primary support. The Labour Party remains ahead in the
- 14:18Speaker 12: two party preferred vote at a steady fifty one percent.
- 14:21Speaker 12: The newspole suggests a distinct lack of momentum in either
- 14:24Speaker 12: direction as the odds of minority government continue to grow
- 14:28Speaker 12: for the next election. Anthony Alberesi has interrupted his leave
- 14:31Speaker 12: to thank Joe Biden for his friendship as the US
- 14:34Speaker 12: President revealed he wouldn't be seeking re election the Prime minister,
- 14:38Speaker 12: hailing his US counterparts contribution to regional security and helping
- 14:42Speaker 12: form the ORCA Security Pact.
- 14:44Speaker 13: President Biden has been a great friend of Australia and
- 14:47Speaker 13: that will continue.
- 14:48Speaker 12: Australia's Ambassador to the United States, Kevin Rudd, saying leadership
- 14:53Speaker 12: can be a lonely place. We can all take pause
- 14:56Speaker 12: to recognize and respect difficult decision President Joe Biden had made.
- 15:00Speaker 12: Opposition leader Peter Dutton continuing his energy pitch today at
- 15:04Speaker 12: one of two Queensland power stations he plans on turning
- 15:07Speaker 12: into a nuclear plant, Collide Power Station and Central Queensland
- 15:12Speaker 12: is in the seat of Flynn, which the Coalition holds
- 15:14Speaker 12: in a margin of around four percent.
- 15:16Speaker 10: If we want to have greener power, and if we
- 15:18Speaker 10: want to have reliable power, then nuclear is the way
- 15:21Speaker 10: in which will provide that twenty four to seven power
- 15:23Speaker 10: into the future.
- 15:24Speaker 12: The nuclear policy, the coalition says, will help sure up
- 15:27Speaker 12: the energy grid. Dovetails with its political attack that the
- 15:30Speaker 12: cost of everything has gone up underneath the Albanezy government.
- 15:34Speaker 10: So when the energy regulator talks about blackouts and brownouts
- 15:39Speaker 10: into the future, that's based on Labour's policy.
- 15:41Speaker 12: At the moment, we're still no closer though to finding
- 15:44Speaker 12: out how much a nuclear transition would cost. Peter Dutton,
- 15:47Speaker 12: batting away that question, well.
- 15:51Speaker 2: That extraordinary day in US politics. Joe Biden pulling out
- 15:54Speaker 2: of the presidential race just over one hundred days now
- 15:58Speaker 2: to the polls. So where to for the Democrats and
- 16:01Speaker 2: is Kamala Harris likely to take the nomination as a
- 16:04Speaker 2: party's presidential candidate. Sky News US correspondence and Alise Nilsen
- 16:09Speaker 2: with more from Washington.
- 16:12Speaker 14: Peter Kamala Harris has locked in a number of key
- 16:15Speaker 14: endorsements from people who could have been potential rivals. Gavin Newsom,
- 16:20Speaker 14: the governor of California, has said that he's endorsing Kamala Harris,
- 16:24Speaker 14: Pete Buddhajeedge, the Transportation Secretary, and of course, having the
- 16:28Speaker 14: endorsement of Joe Biden as he announced he was withdrawing
- 16:31Speaker 14: from the race is a huge help for Kamala Harris,
- 16:35Speaker 14: but nothing is guaranteed just yet. One of the things
- 16:39Speaker 14: that could end this early on and thrust this whole
- 16:42Speaker 14: campaign into an open convention is the fact Joe Manchin
- 16:46Speaker 14: has said he's considering changing his registration back to the
- 16:50Speaker 14: Democrat Party after he withdrew and now is operating as
- 16:54Speaker 14: an independent senator representing West Virginia in the US Senate.
- 16:58Speaker 9: He's seen as a.
- 16:59Speaker 14: Very popular centrist politician who really appeals to many of
- 17:04Speaker 14: those blue collar workers that have been abandoning the Democrats
- 17:07Speaker 14: and moving over, especially to Trump on his protectionist trade
- 17:11Speaker 14: policies and JD Vance are seen as the kind of
- 17:14Speaker 14: candidate that would appeal to those people as well. So
- 17:17Speaker 14: then it turns to how does the convention work. At
- 17:20Speaker 14: the conventions, each delegation from each state is supposed to
- 17:23Speaker 14: vote along the lines of whoever the state voted for
- 17:27Speaker 14: in the primaries or caucuses that were held in that state.
- 17:30Speaker 14: There's reporting today that a phone call with the fifty
- 17:33Speaker 14: state chairs indicated they would all support Kamla Harris. But
- 17:38Speaker 14: if another candidate does put their hand up say that
- 17:41Speaker 14: they want to be considered, there's nothing stopping them talking
- 17:44Speaker 14: to those delegations as well. Now, the other thing to
- 17:47Speaker 14: consider in all this is the Democratic Party has super delegates.
- 17:51Speaker 14: This was essentially created to help lock in the candidacy
- 17:55Speaker 14: of Hillary Clinton, and it gives elite members of the
- 17:58Speaker 14: party extra voting powers, so they get to confirm who
- 18:02Speaker 14: they want to have pitched. So that's people like the
- 18:04Speaker 14: DNC Committee. At a federal level, it's influential senators like
- 18:09Speaker 14: Elizabeth Warren. They get extra votes so they can help
- 18:13Speaker 14: put their finger on the scale. So there's plenty that
- 18:16Speaker 14: could still change. Nothing is guaranteed. Everything we're seeing is unprecedented.
- 18:22Speaker 14: And finally, just to add, while we're speaking about unprecedented,
- 18:25Speaker 14: the fact we haven't seen Joe Biden announced that he's
- 18:29Speaker 14: withdrawing from the race is extraordinary. The general consensus as
- 18:33Speaker 14: we all watched this kind of watching it come to
- 18:36Speaker 14: its natural conclusion, was that this would be an oval
- 18:38Speaker 14: office address, or that'd be a pre recorded campaign announcement.
- 18:43Speaker 14: The fact we haven't laid eyes on Joe Biden. The
- 18:45Speaker 14: letters indicated he'll explain to us later in the week,
- 18:49Speaker 14: but there's nothing in his schedule for this week really
- 18:52Speaker 14: does show that something is not normal in all this.
- 18:56Speaker 14: The last time we saw him disappear like this was
- 18:58Speaker 14: before the presidential So we're keeping a very close eye
- 19:02Speaker 14: on this. As soon as we get a glimpse of him,
- 19:03Speaker 14: it's going to answer a lot of questions. So we'll
- 19:06Speaker 14: be watching very closely over the next week, which is
- 19:09Speaker 14: going to be critical.
- 19:14Speaker 4: Thank you, Analis.
- 19:15Speaker 2: I go to this point again, having worked for a
- 19:17Speaker 2: prime minister. If he has nothing in his diary for
- 19:20Speaker 2: a whole entire week. Who is running the United States.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Let's bring in Daily Telegraph National Affairs editor, our host
- 19:28Speaker 2: of the US Report here on Sky and James Morrow,
- 19:31Speaker 2: and our political reporter out of camera, Cam Reddin. James
- 19:34Speaker 2: will start with you, of course, have written about this
- 19:37Speaker 2: today in the Daily Telegraph. You say the decision by
- 19:40Speaker 2: Biden to step back from the presidential race is just
- 19:44Speaker 2: the pointy end of a massive scandal in this whole
- 19:46Speaker 2: cover up about the true extend of Biden's declining health.
- 19:50Speaker 2: But I've got to say they've left themselves wide open here, James.
- 19:55Speaker 2: I mean, if it isn't fit to run for the presidency,
- 19:58Speaker 2: how the heck's I fit to stay as president? And
- 20:01Speaker 2: doesn't this all now trigger talk of the twenty fifth Amendment.
- 20:06Speaker 15: Well, I think it has to. And I mean the
- 20:07Speaker 15: twenty fifth Amendment is the way that they can take
- 20:10Speaker 15: an incapacitated president out. It's a complicated process, It's never
- 20:14Speaker 15: been tried before. But this fact that the only thing
- 20:18Speaker 15: that we have to go on here is this one
- 20:21Speaker 15: letter that was tweeted out on Joe Biden's personal account
- 20:25Speaker 15: early this morning Australian Time, Sunday, afternoon US time, and
- 20:30Speaker 15: that says, well, I'm stepping aside for the race. I'm
- 20:32Speaker 15: staying as president. I endorsed Kamala Harris. But you know
- 20:35Speaker 15: it's so weird because in nineteen sixty eight, when Lyndon
- 20:38Speaker 15: Johnson said the same thing, I'm not going to run again,
- 20:41Speaker 15: he sat down in the Oval office, we could all
- 20:43Speaker 15: see him, and he said, I'm here and I'm going
- 20:46Speaker 15: to see out my term, but I will not accept
- 20:48Speaker 15: the nomination even if they give it to me at
- 20:50Speaker 15: the convention. We've got a Joe Biden with serious health
- 20:54Speaker 15: concerns now, and those are becoming more and more obvious.
- 20:57Speaker 15: They've said he has COVID. Have to assume that he's
- 21:01Speaker 15: laid low with that. But then that raises a couple
- 21:04Speaker 15: of questions. Number One, if he's sick, why didn't they
- 21:07Speaker 15: wait a few days to make the announcement when he
- 21:08Speaker 15: would be better to make some sort of proof of
- 21:12Speaker 15: life announcement. And b as you say, who is running
- 21:16Speaker 15: the country. I think that we have some serious questions
- 21:18Speaker 15: about what's the chain of command here? If something happens,
- 21:21Speaker 15: if there's a natural disaster, an attack, an emergency, who's
- 21:25Speaker 15: going down to that situation room. I don't know that
- 21:29Speaker 15: it's Joe Biden, and I wonder if this is moving
- 21:32Speaker 15: faster than we think it is, and by the end
- 21:34Speaker 15: of the week, whether there could be more to this story.
- 21:39Speaker 2: I might add to this has been picked up today
- 21:41Speaker 2: by pundits in the US. It's the first time since
- 21:43Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six that there hasn't been a Biden, a Bush,
- 21:48Speaker 2: or a Clinton on a ballot for president.
- 21:51Speaker 4: I think that's really interested.
- 21:52Speaker 2: That shows you how much of a changing of a
- 21:55Speaker 2: guard we're saying here, I cam here at home. Our
- 21:58Speaker 2: Prime Minister took a break from his holidays. It was
- 22:01Speaker 2: in Cans. You praised Joe Biden, but then he went
- 22:04Speaker 2: straight back on leave. We have learned though that finally
- 22:07Speaker 2: today his electorate office, which has been shut since December,
- 22:11Speaker 2: they are reopening the doors, getting back to work. I mean,
- 22:14Speaker 2: I find this story incredible.
- 22:19Speaker 13: Yeah, Petie, when you think about how long that was closed.
- 22:21Speaker 13: For these electric offices, whether it's of the Prime Minister
- 22:24Speaker 13: or any other MP, they do serve an important purpose.
- 22:26Speaker 13: They help people to connect to social services. They help
- 22:29Speaker 13: with send link payments. Even if you just want to
- 22:31Speaker 13: pop in and say hey, this is an issue that's
- 22:33Speaker 13: on my mind. It's an important part of our representative
- 22:36Speaker 13: democracy to be able to be in contact with your
- 22:38Speaker 13: local MP. I know in this circumstance, but in others
- 22:42Speaker 13: as well, the attitude of the police is usually to
- 22:44Speaker 13: try and avoid any action that would inflame the situation.
- 22:47Speaker 13: They've seen this as a safety concern basically since Christmas,
- 22:51Speaker 13: and that's why people haven't been able to access the office.
- 22:53Speaker 13: We even saw when you had protesters hanging off the
- 22:56Speaker 13: roof here at Parliament House that the police on the
- 22:58Speaker 13: ground their approach was well, let them run out of
- 23:01Speaker 13: steam and hope that they come to their senses and
- 23:03Speaker 13: move on. They start to forget about it, and then
- 23:05Speaker 13: we can start getting people back in as normal. Look,
- 23:08Speaker 13: it's good that this is back open, Peter, but I
- 23:10Speaker 13: suppose the hope that they run out of steam only
- 23:13Speaker 13: goes so far. When it's been six months and people
- 23:15Speaker 13: only now just agree to move away. I mean, how
- 23:17Speaker 13: long do you wait for them to move completely?
- 23:21Speaker 2: Well, and if the Prime Minister of this country can't
- 23:23Speaker 2: get the laws enforced to open his bloody office, we're
- 23:26Speaker 2: in a lot of trouble. Cam if that's the end result,
- 23:28Speaker 2: And I hope it gets pursued in the Parliament, certainly
- 23:31Speaker 2: through Center estimates. Let's go to News poll because I
- 23:34Speaker 2: think this is in part the story that's showing in
- 23:37Speaker 2: the Prime Minister's numbers, this weakness, this lack of action.
- 23:41Speaker 4: You know, all talk non delivery.
- 23:43Speaker 2: The coalitions now in front by five points over Labor
- 23:47Speaker 2: on primary votes, lessen a third of voters, So two
- 23:51Speaker 2: thirds do not see Anthony Albanese's preferred leader to the
- 23:54Speaker 2: Labor Party. Two thirds do two thirds do not. Is
- 23:57Speaker 2: disapproval ratings now higher than that the opposition leader can
- 24:01Speaker 2: to you. I mean there's a downward trajectory here. It's
- 24:06Speaker 2: now trend. It would have to go back at least
- 24:09Speaker 2: a year to find a poll that went the Prime
- 24:11Speaker 2: Minister's favor. They've spent billions of dollars on these tax
- 24:15Speaker 2: cuts and energy bill relief. They're bleeding votes on the
- 24:19Speaker 2: left of the Greens, They're bleeding votes on the right
- 24:21Speaker 2: to Dutton from their old traditional working class base.
- 24:26Speaker 4: I mean they're in a world of pain.
- 24:29Speaker 9: Yeah, there certainly reflects.
- 24:30Speaker 13: I think that News poll, Peter, and you saw the
- 24:32Speaker 13: figures on your screen. There that level of apathy generally
- 24:34Speaker 13: towards the government. There is an element broadly to politics
- 24:37Speaker 13: in general. I think for both leaders people were asked, okay,
- 24:40Speaker 13: who do you think should be leading the two major parties,
- 24:42Speaker 13: and the number of people that shrug their shoulders and
- 24:44Speaker 13: says I don't know outranked both Anthony Albanezy and Peter Dutton.
- 24:48Speaker 13: So I suppose that shows the difference in the US,
- 24:50Speaker 13: where half the challenge is getting people off their couch
- 24:53Speaker 13: and energizing them up, whereas here everybody has to vote.
- 24:56Speaker 13: So perhaps they just haven't formed an opinion this far
- 24:59Speaker 13: out from an election, but of course, as you say,
- 25:01Speaker 13: that could only be a few months away. The one
- 25:03Speaker 13: interesting thing that sort of was in the mix in
- 25:05Speaker 13: this news poll today as well. Keep in mind people
- 25:07Speaker 13: were asked who do you think should be leading the
- 25:09Speaker 13: major parties? The person who polled in second for the
- 25:12Speaker 13: coalition was just Cinta nampajimp for Price. Now we wonder
- 25:15Speaker 13: what the sort of legacy items were from the Voice
- 25:18Speaker 13: campaign about nine months on, nearly a year now, we're
- 25:21Speaker 13: coming up to the first Gama Festival in a couple
- 25:22Speaker 13: of weeks. Since that campaign, just center Price has had
- 25:26Speaker 13: a lower profile since that campaign, but has clearly left
- 25:29Speaker 13: to Mark. She's not in the Liberal Party and she's
- 25:31Speaker 13: not in the Lower House. But when people ask hey,
- 25:34Speaker 13: who do you think should leave the party if not
- 25:35Speaker 13: Peter Dutton or lead the opposition, they were looking to
- 25:38Speaker 13: Justinenter Price. So that shows that her career is perhaps
- 25:41Speaker 13: on the upwards trajectory. I'm not saying she's going to
- 25:43Speaker 13: be the leader of the Liberal Party in the Lower
- 25:44Speaker 13: House anytime soon, but clearly the future is bright. If
- 25:47Speaker 13: after a fairly short time in federal politics she's already
- 25:50Speaker 13: made that sort of an impact.
- 25:54Speaker 2: It shows courage and message clarity, as we can see
- 25:58Speaker 2: in the United States.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Cuts through.
- 26:00Speaker 2: Let's go to this story and brought to the top
- 26:02Speaker 2: of the show. If I can place James. The federal
- 26:05Speaker 2: government's got these scholarships specifically for employees are the Palestinian
- 26:09Speaker 2: Authority as well as other Palestinian only residents out of
- 26:14Speaker 2: the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. I mean there's
- 26:17Speaker 2: a whole areas of policy if you work in economic
- 26:20Speaker 2: public policy, cybersecurity, artificial intelligence, airfairs, allowances, overseas student health cover.
- 26:29Speaker 2: I can't get clarity about whether they can come here
- 26:32Speaker 2: with their family. I've put a whole lot of questions
- 26:35Speaker 2: to Penny Wong's office. I'm waiting for a response. I
- 26:39Speaker 2: suspect my back of en bloc costing here it'll be
- 26:42Speaker 2: millions of dollars. I'll get into that closely when I
- 26:45Speaker 2: go through the budget papers tomorrow if I can't get answers,
- 26:47Speaker 2: but I'll tell you what I read this with great surprise.
- 26:52Speaker 15: Yeah, I think we should all be really concerned about this.
- 26:55Speaker 15: I mean, what is the point of this? And as
- 26:59Speaker 15: you say, as we go into tax return seas and
- 27:02Speaker 15: is this really something that we all want to be
- 27:04Speaker 15: contemplating as we start to contemplate our tax bill. But
- 27:07Speaker 15: there's more to this as well. You know, we're talking
- 27:09Speaker 15: about bringing people over from Palestine Gaza West Bank, and
- 27:14Speaker 15: I was looking at the Foundation for Defensive Democracies polling
- 27:18Speaker 15: of Palestinians, and they found that among Palestinians living over there,
- 27:23Speaker 15: five percent, just five percent, think that Hamas committed war
- 27:27Speaker 15: crimes on October seventh. Now, are we sure that the
- 27:31Speaker 15: sort of people that we're going to get on this
- 27:33Speaker 15: program over here are the sort of people who were
- 27:35Speaker 15: in that five percent? How do we know what their
- 27:38Speaker 15: ties are? Who they were in Gaza. There's no government
- 27:42Speaker 15: at all that you can talk to to do background
- 27:44Speaker 15: checks on. And once there here, as we know, with
- 27:47Speaker 15: students who come from all over the place, you know,
- 27:49Speaker 15: it's very easy to stay if you want to as well.
- 27:52Speaker 15: I just think that this has got so many disasters,
- 27:55Speaker 15: major and minor, waiting to happen here, and I don't
- 27:57Speaker 15: know why they're doing it. I mean I can understand
- 28:00Speaker 15: and politically they think it's all wonderful because you know,
- 28:03Speaker 15: Palestine rah rah. But you know, it just seems like
- 28:06Speaker 15: a really bad idea, Peter.
- 28:10Speaker 2: I'll keep digging into that one. Cam just quickly. Britney Higgins,
- 28:13Speaker 2: it seems she's forced to sell her house in France
- 28:15Speaker 2: to pay for defamation action or sorry, it's Linda Reynolds
- 28:20Speaker 2: defamation action against her.
- 28:24Speaker 9: Yeah, Peter.
- 28:25Speaker 13: If there's one thing we know about defamation cases, it's
- 28:27Speaker 13: that they're not resolved quickly. They're not resolved chiefly, and
- 28:31Speaker 13: rarely are they anything but messy. This latest incident, as
- 28:34Speaker 13: you say, she's had to sell the family home, I think,
- 28:36Speaker 13: well to the home she's brought in France. I think
- 28:38Speaker 13: the legal cost, she says, already upwards of a million
- 28:41Speaker 13: dollars and with no end in sight. There may be
- 28:44Speaker 13: many more months ahead with this. Look, she's recently married,
- 28:47Speaker 13: there's a baby on the way, we've had in recent weeks.
- 28:49Speaker 13: Let's just hope that this is all wrapped up soon
- 28:51Speaker 13: and there's a better chapter in life ahead for her.
- 28:56Speaker 4: All right, let's what we get the truth that it'd
- 28:57Speaker 4: be nice.
- 28:58Speaker 2: After the break, we'll go to Washington for an answers
- 29:00Speaker 2: on where to next for the Democrats. It's all uncharted territory,
- 29:04Speaker 2: isn't it and what impact all of this will have
- 29:06Speaker 2: on the Trump campaign last its early days. But assuming
- 29:10Speaker 2: Harris does get the nomination, who's likely to be her
- 29:13Speaker 2: running mate?
- 29:19Speaker 4: Welcome back still to come. You won't believe just how.
- 29:22Speaker 2: Much Australians have had to pay because of the CFMAU.
- 29:26Speaker 2: But first, returning to the biggest news story of the day,
- 29:29Speaker 2: Joe Biden's unprecedented exit from the presidential race, for more
- 29:34Speaker 2: of ease and what it means for both the Democrat
- 29:36Speaker 2: and Republican campaigns. I'm joined now from Washington by chief
- 29:40Speaker 2: international correspondent for The Australian, Cameron Stewart. Okay, and they
- 29:45Speaker 2: had to blast him out the end didn't they.
- 29:47Speaker 4: I mean, he.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Lost the support of people like Chuck Schumer, Pelosi, Obama,
- 29:51Speaker 2: all those others, so it was inevitable he had to go.
- 29:54Speaker 2: But it's taken a bit of time house the news
- 29:57Speaker 2: of Biden's departure from the race being received.
- 30:00Speaker 7: Well, it's strange, Peter, because even though I think a
- 30:02Speaker 7: lot of people were expecting it was going to happen,
- 30:05Speaker 7: it still came as a huge shock to a lot
- 30:06Speaker 7: of people across America, certainly in Washington. You know, it
- 30:10Speaker 7: was a sunny, quiet Sunday afternoon and the bombshell tweet
- 30:14Speaker 7: from the president came at about one forty five, and
- 30:16Speaker 7: the whole place just went for a netic as people
- 30:19Speaker 7: tried to work out exactly what it means. I think
- 30:21Speaker 7: people were expecting it in the next week or so, because,
- 30:24Speaker 7: as you say, the writing was on the for Joe
- 30:26Speaker 7: Biden the moment. The party elders in Baraco, Obama, Nancy Pelosi,
- 30:31Speaker 7: Chuck Schumer, etc. Did coordinated media leagues to make it
- 30:35Speaker 7: very public that they had told Joe he should go.
- 30:39Speaker 7: That was the end of him. It was just a
- 30:41Speaker 7: case of when, because clearly he could not run without
- 30:43Speaker 7: the support of his own party. But it's such a
- 30:45Speaker 7: seismic and historic moment that people were still stunn when
- 30:48Speaker 7: it actually happened.
- 30:50Speaker 2: Well, it took a while in his departure statement to
- 30:53Speaker 2: endorse his vice president.
- 30:55Speaker 4: He got there in the end.
- 30:57Speaker 2: And now I've seen a whole raft of others who
- 30:59Speaker 2: might well have been potential challenges to Harris come out
- 31:02Speaker 2: and support her. Californian Governor, Gavin Newsom, Pete buddhache Edge,
- 31:07Speaker 2: the current Transport Secretary. They're all backing her, which sort
- 31:12Speaker 2: of says to me, this has all been going on
- 31:14Speaker 2: in the background for some time. We've not yet heard
- 31:18Speaker 2: from the Obamas. We've got the Clintons, but not the Obamas.
- 31:22Speaker 2: What does that tell us?
- 31:24Speaker 7: I think there is a division within the Democrat Party
- 31:26Speaker 7: at the moment. Obama and Nancy Pelosi appear to favor
- 31:31Speaker 7: an open contest if you like, a speed dating, rapid
- 31:34Speaker 7: fire contest between candidates to ensure the best one is picked.
- 31:38Speaker 7: It's very pointed that Obama did not endorse Kamala Harris
- 31:41Speaker 7: and Pelosi has been reported as thinking that they want
- 31:43Speaker 7: an open contest as well, and also Chuck Schumer didn't
- 31:47Speaker 7: mention Kamala Harris either. So there is a wing of
- 31:50Speaker 7: the Democrat Party, a very powerful wing, that wants an
- 31:53Speaker 7: open contest here, and the other half of the Democrat
- 31:55Speaker 7: Party wants the party to coal less quickly around Kamala Harris.
- 31:59Speaker 7: So there is no friction. They have an appearance of unity.
- 32:03Speaker 7: They think that is the best way forward. And what
- 32:06Speaker 7: we're actually seeing at this minute unfold is that is,
- 32:11Speaker 7: as you say, really real contenders like Pete Woodage Edge,
- 32:14Speaker 7: the Transport secretary, is a very very good campaigner. You've
- 32:18Speaker 7: got Gavin Newson the Californian government. Now they are two
- 32:20Speaker 7: of the top three names always mentioned when it comes
- 32:23Speaker 7: to candidates, and they've come and endorsed Carmala Harris, so
- 32:26Speaker 7: they're not going to run against it, which doesn't leave
- 32:28Speaker 7: many high profile ones. It only leaves really Gretchen Whitmer,
- 32:32Speaker 7: who is the very tough talking Michigan governor, but she
- 32:37Speaker 7: has said previously she wouldn't run against Harris. We haven't
- 32:40Speaker 7: heard from her so far in relation to Sin since
- 32:43Speaker 7: Joe Biden said they step aside. So we'll just have
- 32:46Speaker 7: to see what happens here. But it might be an
- 32:48Speaker 7: open contest where it really isn't much of a contest.
- 32:52Speaker 2: It's interesting it'll come down to those key swing states.
- 32:55Speaker 2: Michigan's one obviously, Pennsylvania, Ohio. I can't see her having
- 33:01Speaker 2: Gavin Usim on her ticket. That'd be two peak California
- 33:05Speaker 2: types on the one ticket.
- 33:07Speaker 4: So who do you think lend up her VP in
- 33:09Speaker 4: the end?
- 33:10Speaker 7: Look, it could be a range of people. She probably
- 33:13Speaker 7: hasn't settled on one herself. I mean, an obvious one
- 33:16Speaker 7: would be Josh Shapiro, who's the governor of Pennsylvania, East
- 33:19Speaker 7: swing state, who I know is just industr I would
- 33:22Speaker 7: think a male in the Midwest would be what she'd
- 33:25Speaker 7: be looking for to round off her ticket because Krmala's
- 33:28Speaker 7: problem is that she is not popular in the Midwest.
- 33:32Speaker 7: I've traveled a lot through their bars, cafes, farms, talk
- 33:35Speaker 7: to people. They really don't like it, and they don't
- 33:37Speaker 7: like it for all the reasons they do like it
- 33:39Speaker 7: in the big liberal cities in America. You know, she's
- 33:42Speaker 7: a progressive form prosecutor from California, she's a woman of color.
- 33:47Speaker 7: All those factors that make a very popular in the
- 33:49Speaker 7: big cities make it quite unpopular in the midwere. So
- 33:52Speaker 7: I think she would have to find a VP candidate,
- 33:56Speaker 7: Peter who would round her off there because her biggest
- 33:59Speaker 7: challenge would be to win those key swing states in
- 34:02Speaker 7: the Midwest, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. That would become as
- 34:06Speaker 7: big challenge as a candidate.
- 34:08Speaker 2: All right, let's assume it is Harris that she gets
- 34:11Speaker 2: the Democrat nomination. How does this change things for Trump?
- 34:14Speaker 2: Because her record on illegal migration really plays into one
- 34:19Speaker 2: of his key attacks against the administration, doesn't it.
- 34:23Speaker 7: It does, And straight away we can see Trump and
- 34:26Speaker 7: the Republican machine are very much their tactic is going
- 34:30Speaker 7: to be to align Karmala Harris directly with Joe Biden.
- 34:35Speaker 7: They'll say, look, you know, the failed policies of Joe
- 34:37Speaker 7: Biden are the filed policies of Karmala Harris. If you
- 34:40Speaker 7: elect Carmela you're electing Joe Biden's agenda, And they will
- 34:44Speaker 7: point to the border, the border thing. I mean, Joe
- 34:46Speaker 7: Biden appointed her to try and reduce some aspects of
- 34:49Speaker 7: illegal migration across the border, and the Republicans said that
- 34:54Speaker 7: she was effectively a borders are and that was one
- 34:56Speaker 7: of the most you know, the greatest failure of the
- 34:58Speaker 7: Guidan administration. Is the board and the weakness at the border.
- 35:02Speaker 7: So look, that's going to be a problem for her
- 35:04Speaker 7: on the Campain trail. Absolutely. However, she also has been
- 35:08Speaker 7: far more prominent in recent times as an abortion pro
- 35:14Speaker 7: choice abortion activist after the Roe versus Wade decision, and
- 35:18Speaker 7: she's been quite visible on the hustings doing that. She's
- 35:23Speaker 7: been quite effective there, and that's a big boat when
- 35:24Speaker 7: if the Democrats say yes, she certainly has problems as
- 35:27Speaker 7: far as the border goes with the Republicans, She's got
- 35:30Speaker 7: a bit of a winner with abortion with the Democrats.
- 35:32Speaker 7: So it'll be fascinating to see how she actually goes
- 35:34Speaker 7: on the campaign trail, because don't forget, she had a
- 35:36Speaker 7: disastrous campaign in twenty twenty. I mean, she was seen
- 35:40Speaker 7: as one of the big challenges early on. She had
- 35:44Speaker 7: the name, she had the reputation, and it was a shamble.
- 35:49Speaker 7: Her staff kept quitting on her. She had a very
- 35:52Speaker 7: incoherent message. She wasn't a good campaigner, and so she
- 35:56Speaker 7: needs to have improved a lot on that twenty twenty
- 36:00Speaker 7: campaign to make any to have any chance against Donald Trump.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Yeah, look, you're right to point out that her lack
- 36:05Speaker 2: of message clarity has been at a fining feature of
- 36:09Speaker 2: her time as VP. That and her record of not
- 36:13Speaker 2: resolving any of the chaos on the border. Trump up
- 36:16Speaker 2: until now, well, his age hasn't been an issue. It's
- 36:19Speaker 2: been all about Biden's age. She's obviously a much younger candidate.
- 36:23Speaker 2: Does his age now come into play from here on
- 36:26Speaker 2: in and ten days on from his assassination attempt? How
- 36:31Speaker 2: much resonance will that have in the campaign going forward?
- 36:36Speaker 7: I think it'll stay, certainly for his base, it will
- 36:39Speaker 7: remain quite a motivated such an extraordinary moment, and of
- 36:42Speaker 7: course that then supercharged the Republican Convention that we just
- 36:45Speaker 7: had to finished a few days ago. So Trump is
- 36:47Speaker 7: absolutely in the ascendate at the moment. He's as strong
- 36:49Speaker 7: as he's ever been, really, and in theory he should.
- 36:54Speaker 7: I mean, he claims that he could beat Kamala Harris
- 36:56Speaker 7: Moore's living he could be Joe Biden in theory. He
- 36:59Speaker 7: has a massive event over here. He has, he's cashed
- 37:01Speaker 7: up his experience, as I say, is ascendant at this minute.
- 37:05Speaker 7: She only has three and a half months to find
- 37:09Speaker 7: a coherent message, well to a unify her own party frankly,
- 37:12Speaker 7: and then find a coherent message and get herself out there.
- 37:15Speaker 7: That's a very big call. However, the big thing that
- 37:19Speaker 7: we don't know is she is a generational change candidate.
- 37:22Speaker 7: As you say, you know, she's not in her seventies.
- 37:25Speaker 7: I mean, we're not having two geriatrics fight off for
- 37:28Speaker 7: the presidency now and seventy percent of Americans so they
- 37:30Speaker 7: didn't want another Biden Trump clash. Now they've got their wish.
- 37:34Speaker 7: So what does that mean with the voters? I mean,
- 37:36Speaker 7: are there a lot of unknown voters out there who
- 37:39Speaker 7: will be so relieved to have a younger candidate that
- 37:43Speaker 7: they will flock towards Harris? We just don't know that.
- 37:46Speaker 4: Well, watch it all with interest, won't we? Karon Stewart,
- 37:48Speaker 4: thank you, thank you very much.
- 37:52Speaker 2: All right, after break, a former ABCC insider on what's
- 37:57Speaker 2: really going on inside See plus Labor puts this so
- 38:01Speaker 2: called well being budget on hold. I mean, this was
- 38:05Speaker 2: copied from Descinder r Dern. They're plainly embarrassed for taking
- 38:09Speaker 2: on such a dumb idea. Welcome back to the come
- 38:16Speaker 2: more woke madness in Victoria as the government calls on
- 38:20Speaker 2: males who identify as female to take part in an
- 38:23Speaker 2: inquiry that was set up to investigate women's pain. More
- 38:28Speaker 2: on that shortly at first. Every day it seems more
- 38:31Speaker 2: allegations of lawlessness against the CEVBU were coming to light,
- 38:35Speaker 2: and it's ordinary Australians are paying the price. Since twenty fourteen,
- 38:39Speaker 2: productivity in the construction sector has fallen just over eighteen percent,
- 38:44Speaker 2: and across the country construction costs are up, meaning people
- 38:49Speaker 2: are hit twice, first as a homeowner and secondly as
- 38:52Speaker 2: a taxpayer. My next guesse is someone who's well versed
- 38:55Speaker 2: in the cfmu's behavior, having served as head of the
- 38:58Speaker 2: ABCC when it was brought back into existence after Tony
- 39:01Speaker 2: Abbott was elected. He was also a former long term
- 39:04Speaker 2: police officer, a former assistant commissioner at the AFP, a
- 39:08Speaker 2: former head of the New South Wales Office of Public Prosecutions.
- 39:12Speaker 2: So someone who knows what he's talking about and pleased
- 39:15Speaker 2: to say. Nigel Hatchkiss joins me. Now, Nigel, well, thank
- 39:18Speaker 2: you for your time. I've mentioned before that the fact
- 39:22Speaker 2: that the CFMU paid out some sixteen million dollars in
- 39:25Speaker 2: penalties when the abc C was the cop on the beat.
- 39:30Speaker 2: So how on earth can labor claim they know anything
- 39:32Speaker 2: about the behavior of this union.
- 39:44Speaker 4: Have we got you there?
- 39:44Speaker 9: Nice? Having difficulty with sound? Yes, I'm sorry, I'm having
- 39:48Speaker 9: difficulty to sound. Have you got me now your question? Yes,
- 39:54Speaker 9: I've got your Latin claib.
- 39:55Speaker 4: It's good, excellent.
- 39:57Speaker 2: My point is, how on earth can labour say know
- 40:00Speaker 2: anything about these CFMU allegations when we know the union
- 40:04Speaker 2: paid some sixteen million dollars in fines when the ABCC
- 40:10Speaker 2: was in place.
- 40:13Speaker 9: Well, to make that kind of statement is at landish,
- 40:19Speaker 9: I mean blind. Freddie has known the depth of the
- 40:23Speaker 9: problem within the building construction industry throughout Australia. This goes
- 40:28Speaker 9: back forty years I think to nineteen eighty eight when
- 40:31Speaker 9: the first of three raw commissions into building and construction
- 40:37Speaker 9: were undertaken. Each of those royal commissions made very damning
- 40:43Speaker 9: findings about unlawful activity within the industry. Moreover, certainly from
- 40:51Speaker 9: my experiences two thousand and four, the infiltration of organized crime,
- 40:55Speaker 9: particularly at motorcycle gangs and say colorful identities have got
- 41:04Speaker 9: that grip on what is a very important industry.
- 41:10Speaker 2: Labor are rejecting calls to register the union, as we
- 41:14Speaker 2: saw the Hawk government did with the BLF in the
- 41:17Speaker 2: nineteen eighties. There's calls today for a fit and proper
- 41:21Speaker 2: person's tests to be instituted. We know, of course they're
- 41:25Speaker 2: merely suspended the CFMU at the moment, and that there
- 41:28Speaker 2: will be an administrator brought in and an investigation held.
- 41:33Speaker 2: How much hope do you hold we're going to see
- 41:36Speaker 2: changes here that actually make demonstrable differences in the way
- 41:42Speaker 2: law is treated on construction sites, and of course make
- 41:47Speaker 2: a difference to getting rid of some of the illegal
- 41:49Speaker 2: and thuggish behavior.
- 41:53Speaker 9: I have no confidence anything realistic, meaningful will be accomplished
- 42:01Speaker 9: an administrator. Yes, we need to wrap up the CFME EU,
- 42:06Speaker 9: it's activities, it's asshold matters. That's essential. But we need
- 42:17Speaker 9: we need a strong body with sufficient powers to tackle
- 42:22Speaker 9: a serious problem that's not just the building industry as
- 42:25Speaker 9: a results, affecting the whole of the economy. We could
- 42:28Speaker 9: get more hospitals built, we could get more schools built
- 42:31Speaker 9: with the savings of greater productivity. You need us what
- 42:39Speaker 9: was turned once upon a time a strong cop on
- 42:42Speaker 9: the beat. At the moment you haven't.
- 42:47Speaker 2: If the CFMU, of course is doing the right thing,
- 42:49Speaker 2: that have nothing to fear by a strong cop on
- 42:53Speaker 2: the beat, would they absolutely?
- 42:58Speaker 9: I mean This is not a a Monty Python approach
- 43:01Speaker 9: of there a bunch of naughty boys. This is really
- 43:05Speaker 9: serious conduct and now working hand in glove with organized
- 43:09Speaker 9: crime figures out or motorcycle gangs terrorizing building sites. This
- 43:14Speaker 9: is on Australia. This is not the way to go.
- 43:19Speaker 2: I remember when there was the Dyson Hayden Royal Commission
- 43:22Speaker 2: into unions, there was volumes that were kept secret about
- 43:28Speaker 2: the CFMU in the Hope. I think at the time
- 43:31Speaker 2: that those volumes would be used then as evidence to
- 43:33Speaker 2: take forward criminal prosecutions.
- 43:36Speaker 4: This has long been known.
- 43:40Speaker 9: Correct and to my knowledge, they've never seen the light
- 43:43Speaker 9: of day. And I'll leave it to your viewers to
- 43:47Speaker 9: try to worker while they're still buried the damage that
- 43:51Speaker 9: they could inflict upon interested parties.
- 43:58Speaker 4: Jansaram with this one.
- 43:59Speaker 2: But you know, do you believe the labor party, given
- 44:02Speaker 2: and takes millions of dollars in donations from the CFMU,
- 44:07Speaker 2: is compromised here and can't possibly get to the bottom
- 44:10Speaker 2: of these issues.
- 44:13Speaker 9: Well, simply, would you really bite the hand that feeds
- 44:16Speaker 9: you and has fed you constantly over decades. I mean,
- 44:22Speaker 9: it's it's good to see that they have seven for
- 44:26Speaker 9: the moment the rather rich pickings forthcoming from the CFMU,
- 44:33Speaker 9: But as the industry participants continually tell me, it'll rise
- 44:40Speaker 9: again from the ashes like the phoenix if it's not
- 44:44Speaker 9: properly dealt with now, thoroughly and professionally.
- 44:51Speaker 2: Nigel had kiss thank you for your time. I think
- 44:55Speaker 2: what he's saying there is very much a stake through
- 44:56Speaker 2: the heart of the CMF you you or it will come.
- 44:59Speaker 4: Back as a has in a past.
- 45:01Speaker 2: All right after break Labor's well being budget scrapped in favor,
- 45:05Speaker 2: I'll scrap your favor of what I mean, cost of
- 45:06Speaker 2: living's biting. It was a stupid idea from Jacinda r
- 45:09Speaker 2: Dern and this insult to women Victorian government calling on
- 45:13Speaker 2: biological men to partake in a women's pain inquiry. Wellcome back,
- 45:23Speaker 2: let's get straight into it now. Lots to get across
- 45:24Speaker 2: my panel here. As always on a Monday Sky In
- 45:27Speaker 2: his contributor for Howard Government Minister Gary Hargrave and a
- 45:30Speaker 2: bloke who had the big boss in town, Peter Dutton,
- 45:32Speaker 2: was up his way. Keith Pitt m and p MP
- 45:35Speaker 2: from Queensland miss wellbeing budget. This came straight out of
- 45:41Speaker 2: Jacinda r Dern. The ABS says it's not set to
- 45:45Speaker 2: release a tracking survey of our well being until well
- 45:49Speaker 2: after the.
- 45:49Speaker 4: Next federal election.
- 45:51Speaker 2: I suspect Keith, it's because we don't feel much well
- 45:54Speaker 2: being at the moment.
- 45:54Speaker 4: That's probably what's happening.
- 45:58Speaker 7: Peter.
- 45:58Speaker 1: That noise, you can hear that grind, he noises, Jim
- 46:00Speaker 1: Charmers grinding his teeth together, and Treasury looking for reverse gear.
- 46:05Speaker 1: Because this is the bloke who brought you Jim Boonomics,
- 46:08Speaker 1: that six thousand word dire tribe that said Jim was
- 46:11Speaker 1: going to change how economics works, that every other economist
- 46:14Speaker 1: around the world was wrong, and Jimbo was right that
- 46:16Speaker 1: budgets had to be about feelings and not about numbers.
- 46:19Speaker 1: And we're now seeing the results and every single Australian
- 46:23Speaker 1: is painful. This federal Labor government has no idea and
- 46:27Speaker 1: the idea that the ABS has to go and determine
- 46:29Speaker 1: how people are feeling and how they're dealing with things
- 46:32Speaker 1: at the moment in a physical sense. That is an
- 46:35Speaker 1: absolute insult to every single Australian. The Treasure should have
- 46:38Speaker 1: a look at the window. He should get in his
- 46:39Speaker 1: car and go for a drive around. In fact, all
- 46:41Speaker 1: labor MPs.
- 46:42Speaker 4: Should do it.
- 46:42Speaker 1: You just can't abok And see how many people are
- 46:44Speaker 1: living in their cars and living in tents and living
- 46:46Speaker 1: in caravans because of what this labor government has done.
- 46:49Speaker 1: They can't afford to live.
- 46:53Speaker 4: Let's go to Victoria.
- 46:54Speaker 2: The government there is on the fire following revelations today
- 46:57Speaker 2: the biological men who identify fires female but got all
- 47:01Speaker 2: their tackle are encouraged to make a submission to an
- 47:05Speaker 2: inquiry into women's pain. This was an inquiry Gary, meant
- 47:10Speaker 2: to look into things like endometriosis and menopause. Now, how
- 47:14Speaker 2: the heck if someone hasn't got a uterus, are they
- 47:18Speaker 2: qualified to give any evidence about menopause or endometriosis. I
- 47:22Speaker 2: find this bloody outrageous. It makes me really angry that
- 47:27Speaker 2: tax payers that anyone's putting up with this crap anymore.
- 47:30Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm with you, Peter.
- 47:31Speaker 16: Look and as me and male like an udy bit
- 47:33Speaker 16: offer empathy and understanding. But I have not lived through this,
- 47:38Speaker 16: and so I get that part of it. But when
- 47:41Speaker 16: you make the point that as people, blokes who identify
- 47:44Speaker 16: as women are somehow rather given exactly the same status
- 47:47Speaker 16: as women, you know this whole thing has just gone
- 47:49Speaker 16: completely barking man. This is from a political party that
- 47:52Speaker 16: cannot act fight what a woman is. So they just
- 47:56Speaker 16: say if you feel like a woman and you want
- 47:58Speaker 16: to identify as women, and you can be a woman
- 48:01Speaker 16: for the purposes of this. This is insulting. This is
- 48:03Speaker 16: dreadfully difficult for many women who've been through it, and
- 48:09Speaker 16: as I said, as a bloke, I can only but
- 48:10Speaker 16: offer empathy for it and support if necessary. But I
- 48:14Speaker 16: just think this is just an outrageous, outrageous rebuke of
- 48:18Speaker 16: common sense. And this is labor. This is labor in
- 48:22Speaker 16: the twenty first century. They have lost their way in
- 48:25Speaker 16: a big way and they just should be shown the door,
- 48:29Speaker 16: chuck them out, get rid of them.
- 48:32Speaker 2: Well, one of your Queenslay ministers, well she certainly federal
- 48:35Speaker 2: minister at Queensland based. This is the Sports Minister, Arnika Wells.
- 48:40Speaker 2: She wants quotas now for women on boards. Dealing with
- 48:44Speaker 2: sport sixty five sports are receiving taxpayer funding from the
- 48:48Speaker 2: Australian Sports Commission. She doesn't think there's enough women on
- 48:52Speaker 2: these boards. She wants more women on boards. If there
- 48:55Speaker 2: isn't more women on boards, she'll start taking money off them.
- 48:59Speaker 2: This will be now quota, Keith Pitt. Now Labor doesn't
- 49:03Speaker 2: know what a woman is. They're allowing blokes to turn
- 49:06Speaker 2: up to these committees, but now they reckon they can
- 49:09Speaker 2: have quotas for women when they can't decide what a
- 49:11Speaker 2: woman is in the first place.
- 49:14Speaker 1: I think you're on the money, Peter. I mean, is
- 49:16Speaker 1: this like actual biological women or are these women who
- 49:20Speaker 1: identify as men as identify as women. Do they have
- 49:23Speaker 1: skills and qualifications? Because that's the bit I'm worried about
- 49:26Speaker 1: now that these are serious jobs on these boards and
- 49:29Speaker 1: I just want people who can actually do the job.
- 49:32Speaker 1: It doesn't worry me if it's one hundred percent women.
- 49:35Speaker 1: I just want ones that are actually capable. And you
- 49:37Speaker 1: look at your story before.
- 49:38Speaker 10: That's really dangerous.
- 49:40Speaker 1: What if those individuals skew the results in Victoria and
- 49:43Speaker 1: that results in a really bad outcome for women who
- 49:46Speaker 1: have serious problems. I think this stuff's just all completely
- 49:49Speaker 1: out of hand and the Australian people there should be
- 49:51Speaker 1: a revolt and they should put an end to it.
- 49:53Speaker 15: Yep.
- 49:55Speaker 2: I think the Liberal Party, if I'm really frank there, Keith,
- 49:58Speaker 2: need to make this a huge issue with the next election.
- 50:01Speaker 2: I think this is something people absolutely care about. And
- 50:04Speaker 2: if you look at the Republican National Conference, every time
- 50:06Speaker 2: this issue was spoken about in big speeches, there was
- 50:09Speaker 2: a huge cheer from the crowd, much bigger than on
- 50:12Speaker 2: other issues. It's a sleeper and you're crazy if you
- 50:15Speaker 2: don't take a head on.
- 50:16Speaker 4: All right, gener's gotta leave it there.
- 50:17Speaker 2: I've got to get off my soapbox because it fires
- 50:19Speaker 2: me up, it really fires me up.
- 50:21Speaker 4: That's it for me. Tomorrow at six, I'll be back
- 50:24Speaker 4: here now. He's Andrew Bott