Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #88 My Tween Daughter Is Feeling Left Out
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- 0:02Speaker 1: This is the Happy Family's podcast with doctor Justin Colson.
- 0:04Speaker 1: We are Luke and Susie and this is the podcast
- 0:07Speaker 1: for time poor parents who just want answers Now today
- 0:11Speaker 1: tween ages.
- 0:12Speaker 2: Just before we talk about the tween ages, I'm a
- 0:14Speaker 2: little bit concerned. I shared this with Susie earlier, but
- 0:16Speaker 2: I wasn't able to share it with Luke. Did you
- 0:18Speaker 2: hear about the shoe factory that burnt down just over
- 0:21Speaker 2: the weekend? No, it was really sad. About ten thousand
- 0:24Speaker 2: souls were lost.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Can we restart this segment?
- 0:33Speaker 2: You know, I tell Dad jokes sometimes he laughs.
- 0:37Speaker 3: That's what I'm not. You're not a comedian. All right,
- 0:42Speaker 3: let's take a look at this question.
- 0:43Speaker 4: I'm going to move you on. We need to be serious.
- 0:47Speaker 3: Okay, we are suffering tween friend dramas, says one mum.
- 0:50Speaker 3: She says, my daughter comes home upset because she feels
- 0:53Speaker 3: left out by her friends. I want to wait in
- 0:55Speaker 3: there for her, getting her advited to play dates, et cetera,
- 0:58Speaker 3: talking to other girls mums?
- 1:00Speaker 1: Should I right? Well?
- 1:03Speaker 2: One of my favorite authors in this sort of tween
- 1:06Speaker 2: teen girl area is Rebecca Sparrow. And if you've got
- 1:12Speaker 2: a teenage girl, and you're not following beck on social media.
- 1:14Speaker 2: You've just got to get onto that. She's just wonderful.
- 1:17Speaker 2: Her advice is so good. It's funny as well, because
- 1:21Speaker 2: with that question, when I it seems like lately we're
- 1:23Speaker 2: talking a lot about my new book that's coming out
- 1:24Speaker 2: in January, I'm not actually doing it intentionally, I promise you.
- 1:27Speaker 4: Brought up a question. No I'm not.
- 1:29Speaker 2: But I've got a new book coming out about teenage girls. Oh,
- 1:31Speaker 2: we've got a title and we've got to cover. The
- 1:34Speaker 2: book is called Misconnection. Why your teenage daughter hates you,
- 1:38Speaker 2: expects the world and needs to talk?
- 1:42Speaker 4: I know?
- 1:43Speaker 3: But what makes me wish I had girls instead of boys?
- 1:46Speaker 2: I'll write a boys book one one time. I'm sure
- 1:49Speaker 2: one of the things that came out in the survey.
- 1:52Speaker 2: I surveyed about four hundred of them and interviewed them
- 1:54Speaker 2: and talked to their mums. And the number one thing
- 1:57Speaker 2: that brings them joy?
- 1:58Speaker 3: What was it?
- 1:59Speaker 4: Guess what do you think the number one thing that
- 2:01Speaker 4: brings teenage girls joy is?
- 2:04Speaker 1: I have zero? And that's right, no reference point. I
- 2:11Speaker 1: never saw my sisters happy.
- 2:17Speaker 3: Look, I want to go against my instant. I'm going
- 2:20Speaker 3: to say something to do with social media, winning in
- 2:24Speaker 3: social media, or on something on the phone.
- 2:26Speaker 4: Okay, well it's kind of related to that.
- 2:28Speaker 2: The answer was friends, the thing that brings them more
- 2:31Speaker 2: joyous friends. When I ask them what made life hardest
- 2:35Speaker 2: for them?
- 2:35Speaker 3: Friends?
- 2:36Speaker 4: Friends, Yeah, yeah.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, So friends are oxygen to our tween and
- 2:42Speaker 2: teen girls. I mean, friends are important for us as
- 2:44Speaker 2: humans we're in ultrasocial species. But for our teen and
- 2:47Speaker 2: tween girls, my goodness, they matter. And when things are
- 2:50Speaker 2: not going well for them. As parents, because we love
- 2:53Speaker 2: our kids so much, we want to dive in. We
- 2:55Speaker 2: want to say to them, well, let me fix this
- 2:57Speaker 2: for you, let me help you. I don't know that
- 3:00Speaker 2: that's always the wrong thing to do, but I'm not
- 3:03Speaker 2: sure that it's always the best thing to do.
- 3:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:05Speaker 3: Oh, well that's not answering the question yet. Okay, we're
- 3:09Speaker 3: going to need more on this as we look at
- 3:11Speaker 3: do we or do we not rescue our children when
- 3:13Speaker 3: things are not going right with their friends. I personally
- 3:16Speaker 3: am so far unsatisfied with the specialist sensors. So let's
- 3:20Speaker 3: get more out of Earringstone.
- 3:21Speaker 4: I gave you a chance to wrap it early.
- 3:23Speaker 3: Come on, well, it's like offense to me doctor justin
- 3:26Speaker 3: all right.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Okay, So when we wade in we often complicate things,
- 3:31Speaker 2: but we can assist from the side. We can do
- 3:34Speaker 2: practical and instrumental things, and you can find those kinds
- 3:37Speaker 2: of ideas on the internet everywhere.
- 3:39Speaker 4: I just don't think that.
- 3:40Speaker 2: Most of the time, in most cases, that's helpful. The
- 3:43Speaker 2: kids start to feel pressured, they start to worry that
- 3:46Speaker 2: they're not good enough, they feel like their parents are
- 3:48Speaker 2: judging them. When we say to the kids, well, you
- 3:50Speaker 2: just need to go and talk to somebody. Why don't
- 3:51Speaker 2: you get somebody's phone number and we'll organize a playdate. Luke,
- 3:55Speaker 2: we'll organize a playdate on the weekend. We'll get you together.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And the kids go to school feeling press should they
- 4:00Speaker 2: feel anxious, anxiety levels go up. It makes things really challenging.
- 4:04Speaker 2: I'm not saying we shouldn't do that. I'm saying I'm
- 4:07Speaker 2: not convinced that in most cases it's the best thing.
- 4:09Speaker 3: So if our child is feeling left out, what is
- 4:12Speaker 3: the core need that we as parents can address with them?
- 4:17Speaker 2: What I think that we want to do is respond
- 4:19Speaker 2: to them with empathy, respond to them with validation, respond
- 4:24Speaker 2: to them with understanding and then let them work out
- 4:27Speaker 2: the best way forward themselves. So when a child's having
- 4:31Speaker 2: a really hard time, what we do as we sit
- 4:32Speaker 2: down with them and we hug them and we.
- 4:33Speaker 4: Say, it's really hard when you feel like you're alone.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Feeling isolated is one of the hardest things that you
- 4:39Speaker 2: can go through. We let them know that we get it.
- 4:42Speaker 2: There's a phrase that I often use. If you can
- 4:44Speaker 2: name it, you can tame it. In other words, when
- 4:47Speaker 2: we let our children know that we understand the emotional
- 4:50Speaker 2: experience that they're living through, it helps their emotions to settle.
- 4:55Speaker 2: As their emotions settled, we then get to have sensible
- 4:57Speaker 2: conversations with them, like how can I help? What do
- 5:00Speaker 2: you think would be the best thing to do here?
- 5:03Speaker 2: Would you like me to be involved, would you like
- 5:06Speaker 2: to brainstorm ideas together?
- 5:08Speaker 4: Or have you got this and you're just having a
- 5:09Speaker 4: bad day.
- 5:10Speaker 2: We get to play with ideas with them once they've
- 5:13Speaker 2: calmed down. But more than anything, they just want to
- 5:15Speaker 2: know my mom or my.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Dad gets it.
- 5:19Speaker 2: They love me, They understand this is a safe place
- 5:22Speaker 2: for me to be at home.
- 5:25Speaker 1: When I'm at work and I'm talking to people professionally
- 5:27Speaker 1: who are seeking my advice on how to advance their
- 5:30Speaker 1: careers and get further in media or whatever it might be,
- 5:33Speaker 1: I sit down in The advice I give as a
- 5:35Speaker 1: blanket for everybody is when you're in your workplace, sit
- 5:39Speaker 1: down and approach everybody with a how can I help,
- 5:42Speaker 1: especially to your bo how can I help? How can
- 5:44Speaker 1: I does that philosophy work to your child in this situation?
- 5:47Speaker 1: So rather than stepping in in the midst of empathizing
- 5:50Speaker 1: with them to go, well, how can I help? And
- 5:52Speaker 1: if they say you can't, but let's just sit here
- 5:55Speaker 1: and huddle or whatever, or if they say, well, actually,
- 5:59Speaker 1: can you can you help me to meet some people
- 6:03Speaker 1: like if they are ask it's a different scenario, right,
- 6:05Speaker 1: Is that an approach that works in a scenario like this.
- 6:09Speaker 4: It's one of the things that I recommend all the time.
- 6:11Speaker 2: One of the best ways to tell whether somebody is
- 6:14Speaker 2: really reading the situation right as a paralleld is whether
- 6:17Speaker 2: they step in or step out. However, you can almost
- 6:21Speaker 2: never go wrong by stepping in with a how can
- 6:24Speaker 2: I help? Because you're not stepping in to dominate, you're
- 6:27Speaker 2: not stepping into takeover, you're not stepping into punish or discipline.
- 6:30Speaker 2: You're stepping in to say I can see that this
- 6:32Speaker 2: is hard for you right now, and I'm here for you.
- 6:35Speaker 2: How can I help. It's such a non intrusive way
- 6:38Speaker 2: to intrude. It's such a wonderful way to step in
- 6:40Speaker 2: without actually taking over. That may be one of the
- 6:44Speaker 2: most powerful questions that we can ask our children when
- 6:46Speaker 2: they're in crisis. I can see that you're having a
- 6:47Speaker 2: hard time. Would you like a hug? What can I
- 6:50Speaker 2: do to help?
- 6:50Speaker 3: This is one of those times where we finish get
- 6:54Speaker 3: towards the end of chatting about something where I feel
- 6:55Speaker 3: like as a parent, I can take that I can
- 6:58Speaker 3: do like I want to stick it on my wall
- 7:01Speaker 3: as the reminder how can I help? Because that seems
- 7:04Speaker 3: to that would address so many things in my children's.
- 7:07Speaker 4: It goes across context.
- 7:08Speaker 2: So we're talking here about a tween girl who's struggling,
- 7:10Speaker 2: and what might often happen is if she's emotional and
- 7:13Speaker 2: she's struggled, shoulders and saying I don't know, I don't think.
- 7:15Speaker 2: So he said, well, I'm here to help. I've got
- 7:18Speaker 2: some ideas. Would you like them or would you just
- 7:20Speaker 2: like a hug? And you don't have to fix the problem.
- 7:22Speaker 2: But eventually she might come to you and say I
- 7:24Speaker 2: really need help, at which point you're then invited to
- 7:27Speaker 2: step in. But that could be sibling dramas you know,
- 7:29Speaker 2: the kids are fighting. Guys, you seem to be having
- 7:31Speaker 2: a hard time. How can I help?
- 7:33Speaker 4: It could be a.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Child doesn't want to wait dinner, where you seem to
- 7:35Speaker 2: not really be enjoying this dinner tonight.
- 7:37Speaker 4: How can I help?
- 7:38Speaker 2: By asking the question how can I help, we open
- 7:40Speaker 2: up opportunities for meaningful conversations where we're invited into their
- 7:45Speaker 2: world and we can actually do the guiding and the
- 7:47Speaker 2: teaching and the instructing that's needed with them asking us
- 7:51Speaker 2: to please do it, rather than us jumping in and
- 7:54Speaker 2: saying I'm the parent and listen to me.
- 7:55Speaker 3: So good, Doctor Justin Coilson. At the end of the
- 7:58Speaker 3: first part of this chat, I thought you were to
- 8:00Speaker 3: give us nothing, but.
- 8:00Speaker 1: That I never doubted you for a second.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Thank you so.
- 8:05Speaker 4: Much at your service. Yes, no problem at all.
- 8:09Speaker 3: For more details on Justin's books, programs, and podcasts, you
- 8:12Speaker 3: can jump online to Happy Families dot com. Do Are
- 8:14Speaker 3: you and to find out how to have Justin come
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