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What Happens After an Accident? The Next of Kin Crisis No One Talks About · Groove with Portia

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Speaker 1: of Porsche. Today's conversation focuses on legacy, love, advocacy in
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Speaker 1: taking ownership and accountability. Question for my audience out there today,
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Speaker 1: what would be your response if six hours went by
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Speaker 1: where you didn't hear from your loved one, didn't know
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Speaker 1: where they were, and you got a phone call that
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Speaker 1: something tragic happened to them. What would be your response
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Speaker 1: that you couldn't go see them, that you couldn't hear
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Speaker 1: their voice one last time? What would be your response
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Speaker 1: in that situation? Let that sink in. So today I'm
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Speaker 1: joined by a woman who is working behind the scenes
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Speaker 1: to make her tragic situation more of a call to
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Speaker 1: action and help possibly prevent someone else from sitting in
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Speaker 1: the same boat that she did. So welcome the founder
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Speaker 1: of tiff which stands for two inform families. First, Miss
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Speaker 1: Christine Olsen, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: Thank you Portia with all my heart, and yes it
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Speaker 2: is you know something that I hope that my story
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Speaker 2: prevents my tragedy from ever happening again to anyone. So
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Speaker 2: thank you.
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Speaker 1: It's an honor Christine to have you. I knew when
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Speaker 1: we had our initial conversation I wanted to have you
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Speaker 1: on the show to really help get this out there
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure that this type of thing happens daily,
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Speaker 1: not just as an occurrence or once in a lifetime
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Speaker 1: type of thing. This happens every single day. And Christine,
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Speaker 1: before we jump into TIFFs origin, I'm curious if you
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Speaker 1: would share with our audience who Tiffany was and what
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Speaker 1: is the legacy you want her story to hold still
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Speaker 1: after twenty one years of TIFFs or original starting.
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Speaker 2: Tiffany Marie Olson Special Girls, she knows she just had
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Speaker 2: such an a missing spirit. They said that she had
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Speaker 2: an old soul, And I really didn't even know what
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Speaker 2: that meaning or what those words meant until people reflected
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Speaker 2: on her what she did for them words she might
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Speaker 2: have said. She had this knack of just touching a person,
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Speaker 2: like maybe on a shoulder or something and smiling at them.
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Speaker 2: That just wasn't, you know, just like this kind of
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Speaker 2: gooney smile or whatever, but it was a heartfelt smile.
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Speaker 2: She was only twenty two, and so I don't think
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Speaker 2: she really came into herself quite yet to who she
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Speaker 2: was going to be, moving to Florida from Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Speaker 2: and living on Anna Maria Island where we all lived,
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Speaker 2: seven mile long Barrier Island here in Florida, right outside
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Speaker 2: of the Saint Pete Tampas Arisota area. When you live
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Speaker 2: on such a small island, everybody has led to go
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Speaker 2: into the service industry. That's what I did. I went
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Speaker 2: and worked at a restaurant. Tiffany tried it out, and
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Speaker 2: she said that wasn't her thing. She worked for a homebuilder.
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Speaker 2: She liked to be working with people one on one
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Speaker 2: and help solving problems. She signed her driver's license forum
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Speaker 2: in Florida as an organ donor. I didn't even know
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Speaker 2: that until she was killed. Until she was her life
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Speaker 2: was taken and in her passing because she took that
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Speaker 2: one step, seven people have been helped with life saving something.
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Speaker 2: So even her eyes, her corny is because she was
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Speaker 2: killed on impact, so her major organs couldn't be used,
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Speaker 2: but her eyes went to a ten year old Florida girl.
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Speaker 2: I was just talking to a fire chief and we're
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Speaker 2: talking about the campaign clicket and ticket, and she said,
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Speaker 2: you know, mom, put that's your seatbelt on. That's important.
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Speaker 1: Mom.
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Speaker 2: Do you donate blood? You need to do this, it's important.
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Speaker 2: So she was this person that I think loved to
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Speaker 2: serve others and I hate that this accident took her
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Speaker 2: life because I think she had she would have went
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Speaker 2: on to really do a lot of good in our world.
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Speaker 2: But I have to believe through her name and her
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Speaker 2: name's sake. Her name is Tiffany, it's what we call
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Speaker 2: her Tiffy girl. But to inform families first is the mission.
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Speaker 2: So that's what I hope to leave behind them with
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Speaker 2: her name and the mission I'm doing.
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Speaker 1: And Christine, you almost got me crying over here because
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Speaker 1: I can see how Tiffany was very service driven, and
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Speaker 1: I mean, even through her transition, she still gave a
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Speaker 1: gift to those in the physical realm, but also through
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Speaker 1: this initiative, tiff that you cre he ate it. And
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Speaker 1: as I brought up in the beginning, Christine, you waited
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Speaker 1: more than six hours to hear about Tiffany's accident, and
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Speaker 1: I'm curious, Christine, can you share with us what was
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Speaker 1: that shift for you from that space of I'm a
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Speaker 1: grieving mother, I don't know what to do. Have I
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Speaker 1: failed as a parent because I couldn't be there for
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Speaker 1: my daughter to this space of advocacy and wanting to
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Speaker 1: make a difference in other people the same way Tiffany did.
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Speaker 2: That's such a great question because I honestly don't know
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Speaker 2: where that transition happened. I just knew the events of
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Speaker 2: that evening, the time span, so as my daughter lay
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Speaker 2: dead in the street, I mean, that's the hard fact.
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Speaker 2: Fifteen minutes from my home, I'm at home watching TV,
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Speaker 2: having a hot cup of tea, probably having a little
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Speaker 2: piece of chocolate, like nothing's going on in the world,
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Speaker 2: you know. I finished watching the movie. I go to bed,
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Speaker 2: find my little sweet Spot. It is now about eleven
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Speaker 2: fifteen at night here in Florida, So eleven fifteen. She's
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Speaker 2: killed at seven oh one, so she's been gone all
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Speaker 2: these hours already. I just got into bed. The phone
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Speaker 2: rings at eleven fifteen, and I honestly thought, calls me
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Speaker 2: this late at night? Really, who calls me that late? Well,
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Speaker 2: I'm from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. I thought maybe my sister's back
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Speaker 2: home or having a cocktail and say, let's call our sister.
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Speaker 2: Whatever it was. But there was a gut feeling that
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Speaker 2: said get out of bed and answer the phone. And
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Speaker 2: so when I answered the phone, it was my son,
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Speaker 2: and he simply said, Now, Derek was twenty nine, he
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Speaker 2: wasn't a little boy. And he just said, Mom, she's
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Speaker 2: been hurt in an accident. Meet me at the hospital. Now,
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Speaker 2: pay attention to those words. These are the words coming
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Speaker 2: out of Dare. But no, she's dead. But the conversation
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Speaker 2: is going. And that's what do we call that game
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Speaker 2: phone tag or something like someone talks to someone and
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Speaker 2: through the translation of multiple people the real story is
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Speaker 2: like diluted or whatever. So then going to the hospitals,
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Speaker 2: the hospital saying she's not here. I said, well, she's hurt,
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Speaker 2: you know, can you call another hospital? The hospital they said, well,
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Speaker 2: because a hippo, we don't do that, which makes absolutely
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Speaker 2: no sense. Asking them to call the police. They said,
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Speaker 2: we don't know where it happened, we don't know what county.
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Speaker 2: And give them credit, they're an emergency room. And so
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Speaker 2: that was what led to that six and a half
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Speaker 2: hours while I was only fifteen minutes away. So when
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Speaker 2: this settled in, and I want to say it took months,
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Speaker 2: I think I was like in a fog because I
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Speaker 2: would be talking to people. I even went back to
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Speaker 2: work and I would just see a mouth moving, but
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Speaker 2: you're not even like conversing or I think that's shock
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Speaker 2: or I don't even know what it was. But somewhere
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Speaker 2: in that time span, maybe a couple of months, I'm
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Speaker 2: just thinking about everything, how I was treated, how I
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Speaker 2: was spoken to, the just the casualness of being told
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Speaker 2: my daughter was dead, just like, well she's gone, I
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Speaker 2: you know, I mean that was law enforcement just a
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Speaker 2: hunch of a shoulder and saying well, I presume she's
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Speaker 2: with a medical examiner, but they're closed. You can call
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Speaker 2: them in the morning, just very casual. It's just you know,
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Speaker 2: run of the day. So somewhere in that time span,
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Speaker 2: getting back to your question, I just thought, if it's
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Speaker 2: happening to me, it's happening to others. But I work
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Speaker 2: on this little Barrier island. I don't own a computer.
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Speaker 2: I'm not computer literate. I don't know anything about government
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Speaker 2: or laws or changing laws. But I start talking to
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Speaker 2: people just like you and I are talking Portie, and
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Speaker 2: I said, what do you think about adding emergency contacts
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Speaker 2: to a license? Because Tiffany was on the back of
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Speaker 2: a motorcycle, she didn't have her purse with her, she
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Speaker 2: had that license in the pocket. That's what gravitated toward
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Speaker 2: that license. So I started asking people on this little
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Speaker 2: island and people are like, oh my god, that's so smart,
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Speaker 2: that makes so common sense. They said, start a petition drive. Well,
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Speaker 2: how do you make a petition?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't own a computer, like I said. The cook
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Speaker 2: in the kitchen at the Rotten Reel Pier said, I'll
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Speaker 2: make the petition everyday. People solution minded, Let's build on
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Speaker 2: this whatever we want to call it. So, but the
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Speaker 2: petition was made. People on that island made copies, went
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Speaker 2: door to door, the petitions got signed, and we gathered
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Speaker 2: about a thousand people very quickly. I'm saying, yes, this
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Speaker 2: has to happen. This is so emotional, I mean, because
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Speaker 2: it's all coming back to me and I just see
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Speaker 2: all the little pieces of the puzzle just repeating itself
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Speaker 2: from all those years ago.
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Speaker 1: So it's all right. But see, as I brought up
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Speaker 1: in the beginning, Christine, this conversation is about love, legacy
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Speaker 1: and inspiring others to also take action and learning from
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Speaker 1: your story. Right. I always tell people your story is
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Speaker 1: not for you. It is to give others permission to
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Speaker 1: not let their dreams and aspirations go to the cemetery. Right,
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Speaker 1: It's to give them permission. And essentially, this is what's
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Speaker 1: happening through your initiative, tiff Right. Yes, it's awful what
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Speaker 1: happened to Tiffany. No, I wouldn't wish that on anybody,
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Speaker 1: none of us would. At the same time, look at
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Speaker 1: the beautiful gift that is blossomed through her per transition. Right,
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Speaker 1: you finding the right people to help you get this
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Speaker 1: petition getting TIFFs initiative in other states, right. And I'm curious, Christine,
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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people truly understand the
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Speaker 1: process of when an emergency happens. First responders get to
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Speaker 1: the scene. Obviously they're assessing they may find obviously a
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Speaker 1: driver's license or other pieces of information. And I'm curious,
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Speaker 1: what would you like families to understand about how identification
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Speaker 1: and next of kin notification actually works based on your experience.
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Speaker 2: So when law enforcement arrives at your emergency, keep in mind,
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Speaker 2: this is not a fatality. This is an emergency. Any
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Speaker 2: time you cannot verbally speak to law enforcement to tell
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Speaker 2: them who to contact. The only reference they have, The
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Speaker 2: only thing they have at that very moment is your
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Speaker 2: driver's license or state issued ID. The information on there
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Speaker 2: is a name and an address. Let's use Tiffany. Tiffany's
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Speaker 2: name and addresses on there. Tiffany had her own address,
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Speaker 2: so they go to her address, the Tiffany's not there.
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Speaker 2: How do I know who to contact for this young girl?
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Speaker 2: This is law enforcement? How do I know who? Where
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Speaker 2: are her people? Where is her family? Are they by
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Speaker 2: different names? Are they in different states? That takes the
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Speaker 2: national average of six hours for law enforcement to dwindle
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Speaker 2: and try and figure out through things in your purse,
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Speaker 2: things on your car. You know, every driver's license has
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Speaker 2: a database connected. That's what the magnetic strip is on
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Speaker 2: the back, so there might be information there and they
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Speaker 2: start they have to start that piecing together thing, which
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Speaker 2: takes again the national average of six hours. I just
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Speaker 2: spoke to a mother in Wisconsin, Sonia, and it was
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Speaker 2: sixteen hours for her when her son was killed. So
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Speaker 2: is it six hours, is it four hours? Is it
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Speaker 2: sixteen hours? It's too long when you have it in
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Speaker 2: a driver's license, when you have these emergency contacts embedded
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Speaker 2: in that magnetic strip, and that's what registering online with
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Speaker 2: your state. As soon as you register with the existing license,
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Speaker 2: it goes into that database. Law enforcement simply shows up
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Speaker 2: at your emergency, takes your card be a driver's license
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Speaker 2: or ID, and scans it like a credit card, right
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Speaker 2: in their vehicle, and the contexts that you want notified
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Speaker 2: swing up immediately. This is who I want notified on
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Speaker 2: my behalf. And this is not like I said, for fatalities,
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Speaker 2: this is heart attack, stroke, dementia, special needs. Anytime you
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Speaker 2: are not at that address, you are facing the national
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Speaker 2: average of six hours, so to physic change in the solution,
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Speaker 2: I believe in my heart will provide you and your.
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Speaker 1: Family sixteen hours. Christine, I mean you waited six and
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Speaker 1: then sixteen to not know anything. You're just picturing the
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Speaker 1: emotions in that moment of fear of you can't sleep,
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Speaker 1: You're tossing and turning, your questioning. I mean, I'm probably
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Speaker 1: sure you're praying on your hands and knees in that time,
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Speaker 1: you know.
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Speaker 2: And also you just think of let's use a husband
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Speaker 2: and wife. The wife's at home, she made dinner, we
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Speaker 2: got friends coming over. Make sure you're on time. This
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Speaker 2: is the conversation she's having with her husband. He's late,
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Speaker 2: and she gets upset. Now she's getting riled in her heart.
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Speaker 2: But now it's fifteen minutes. Now it's a half hour.
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Speaker 2: I'm texting you, I'm calling you. You're not answering. Now
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Speaker 2: that fear starts to well up. Where are you? Maybe
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Speaker 2: I'm mad as sec as you right now, all this time,
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Speaker 2: your loved one, husband or whatever may be in an
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Speaker 2: emergency room and law enforcement doesn't even know who to
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Speaker 2: call you. There are realistic things like that happening I
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Speaker 2: think about that Kobe Bryant basketball player that was in
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Speaker 2: a helicopter with his daughter. The paparazzi had the story
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Speaker 2: before the wife. There are scenarios like this, you know,
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Speaker 2: anytime you're traveling and anytime you're not at that address,
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Speaker 2: you know, so it affects everyone. Off camera, we were
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Speaker 2: talking about even the child waiting to be picked up
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Speaker 2: at school. We're late, you know, and now the child
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Speaker 2: is waiting. Now the school comes out and they're just like, well,
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Speaker 2: she should have been here. What emergency numbers? And it's
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Speaker 2: all that going through paperwork and looking online and trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out who to call and stuff where Now
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to engage our school boards to make sure
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Speaker 2: students get registered with permits and driver's license first time drivers.
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Speaker 2: But also the staff. Why is a staff person late?
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Speaker 2: Why is the teacher late getting to school now? You know,
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Speaker 2: now the principal is, well, I don't know, she should
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Speaker 2: have been here. And it's that wonder and worry and fear,
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Speaker 2: and this is all things that TIFFs initiative. Being registered,
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Speaker 2: having it readily available answers all these different scenarios that
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Speaker 2: you know that come into play.
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Speaker 1: Christine, I truly appreciate this conversation. Today. As we wrap
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Speaker 1: up this conversation, Christine, Tiff has been around for twenty
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Speaker 1: years this year, and as you mentioned, you're working to
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Speaker 1: get TIFF into schools, obviously with high schoolers who have,
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Speaker 1: you know, get their driver's license, their temporary permit. I'm curious, Christine,
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Speaker 1: how can more people advocate to get Tiff Tift's initiative
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Speaker 1: adopted into their state, into their communities. I even thought
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Speaker 1: about the other day when I was test driving a
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Speaker 1: few cars at a car dealership, Like, you know, what
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Speaker 1: if I'm by myself and I end up getting into
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Speaker 1: an accident while I'm test driving a car.
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Speaker 2: So isn't that just brilliant? Isn't that just brilliant? So
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Speaker 2: when you buy a new car, and here's just a
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Speaker 2: little information, we encourage every one of our people, you know,
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Speaker 2: buying a car or whatever, to add emergency contacts to
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Speaker 2: that license. So the first biggest thing is you can
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Speaker 2: go to the website and see if TIFF is in
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Speaker 2: your state. If it is, register, that's number one. Get
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Speaker 2: your family registered. Number two. Like us on social media.
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Speaker 2: Right now, we have a national challenge on the Tiff
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Speaker 2: Facebook page and it's encouraging everybody to look at the
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Speaker 2: states where Tiff is, where Tiff is not, and from
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Speaker 2: the comfort of just your computer, you can say, like,
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Speaker 2: Michigan is not on board, California, Wyoming, these are states.
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Speaker 2: You have family in New York, click that state and
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Speaker 2: get letters will be generated to their DMV offices. If
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Speaker 2: you're in a position where you have employees, you know,
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Speaker 2: if you're in the head of a senior facility of
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Speaker 2: any kind, the homeless, you know, add I get the
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Speaker 2: homeless people, our veterans. I'm speaking to our local veteran agencies.
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Speaker 2: Many of our low veterans are homeless, have post traumatic stress,
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Speaker 2: mental illness. If you're working with any of these agencies,
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Speaker 2: offer emergency contact registration. Put a link on your computer,
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Speaker 2: websites or on the website your business website. Just add
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Speaker 2: the link on there. Have you added emergency contact? If
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Speaker 2: you're on social media, Hey, I just heard this podcast today.
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Speaker 2: Cause me to think have I registered? I looked my
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Speaker 2: states not on board. I'm going to send the link
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Speaker 2: to inform families first to my state representative and say, hey,
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Speaker 2: they're doing it in Florida as well as nineteen other states.
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Speaker 2: Why isn't my state doing it? Advocate in your state
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Speaker 2: because because when you face that reality of that six
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Speaker 2: hour window, which I hope everybody listens very carefully, we
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Speaker 2: can all do something. Remember I was a server, I'm
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Speaker 2: a mom. I was just a server at a restaurant.
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Speaker 2: But I'm going on to change the world right now.
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Speaker 2: I just shortly before this, I talked to a fire
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Speaker 2: chief our EMTs and he's up in Tallahassee, Florida, and
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Speaker 2: he's going into training. Get the fire departments aware of
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Speaker 2: this because when they're responding, making sure law enforcement is
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Speaker 2: using it. If you're involved with law enforcement, is your
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Speaker 2: state on board? Is your law enforcement using this? Because
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Speaker 2: this is a tool for law enforcement. Remember they're facing
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Speaker 2: that window too, all that time devoted to try and
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Speaker 2: find someone for you, the victim. So make you know
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Speaker 2: if we're in law enforcement any place in you know government,
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Speaker 2: Right now, it's sitting with the United States Congress. Do
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Speaker 2: you have a congress person say why is it still
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Speaker 2: sitting with Congress? Why hasn't this been signed into law
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Speaker 2: across the nation? Just sign it. It's so easy. It
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Speaker 2: costs our state nothing to get done. I mean, I
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Speaker 2: understand for the State of Florida. It costs the State
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Speaker 2: of Florida ten thousand dollars to implement its saving Right
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Speaker 2: now in Florida, twenty two million people are registered. Twenty
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Speaker 2: two million people in Florida will never experience my whoreor
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Speaker 2: because one mother stepped up to the plate. I'm asking
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Speaker 2: the people of listening to this podcast, will you step
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Speaker 2: up to the place. Will you join forces with me?
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Speaker 2: Will you advocate with me? Will you be an influencer
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Speaker 2: for change in our nation and beyond international? Why not?
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Speaker 2: You know, It's never been done in the world before.
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable that this is happening, and that I was
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Speaker 2: chosen to do this, and more importantly, that Tiffany's name
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Speaker 2: represents the mission that is just you know, I am
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Speaker 2: a woman of faith and I believe, you know, I
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Speaker 2: believe that somehow God needed that's done, even though it
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Speaker 2: cost her life, but that her name reflects everything it's about.
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Speaker 2: So I ask everyone please like this podcast, share this podcast,
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Speaker 2: connect with me, and just see what we can do
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Speaker 2: together as a nation. What can we do for the
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Speaker 2: sake of others? You know, I've never I've never gotten
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Speaker 2: the awards, I've never gotten all the accolades or all
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Speaker 2: those things. I've never gotten recognition, never, you know, And
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Speaker 2: I have to let that be okay because I know
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Speaker 2: that my action has saved at least twenty two million
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Speaker 2: lives in the state of Florida alone. We all have
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Speaker 2: that power. So now let's join forces and do it. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Well, everybody, that was Christine Olsen, the founder of Tiff
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Speaker 1: that you heard from today. As she mentioned, you can
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Speaker 1: connect with her on social media follow the Tiff page. Also,
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Speaker 1: you can, you know, write a letter each of us
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Speaker 1: know somebody in a higher position, and think about to
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Speaker 1: put yourself in Christine's shoes. How would it feel to
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Speaker 1: go six hours, sixteen hours without knowing anything about your
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Speaker 1: loved one? Think about putting yourself there. How would you
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Speaker 1: feel knowing that your loved one couldn't find you, couldn't
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Speaker 1: know anything? Right, So let's be that change we wish
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Speaker 1: to see in the world and take action today. Well, everybody,
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Speaker 1: that concludes our conversation on grul Porsche for today and
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Speaker 1: until next time. Everybody piece and har grease everyone no
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