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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, fun to celebrate are historically bad local sports
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  Speaker 1: tanks over the years. If you can't laugh at yourself, man,
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: who can you laugh? I feel like bone. We're gonna
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: laugh at a lot of people on this show, so
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: we gotta be mad enough to laugh at ourselves. And
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: Lord knows the material is out there. Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: seven four or five, seven, nine six cent if you
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  Speaker 1: want to keep texting in what you think are the
• 0:38
  Speaker 1: worst takes we've come up with. We laugh at others
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: momentarily before we talk to Adam Gold.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Can you guess Mac? What get ups topic is? Right now? Cowboys?
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: What the Cowboys have to do the next couple of
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: weeks to become Super Bowl context?
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you man.
• 0:53
  Speaker 1: ESPN wants the Cowboys and the Super Bowls, I think
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  Speaker 1: worse than Jerry Jones does. They also have the right
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: broadcast right now? Yeah, this one's special. They want old
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  Speaker 1: Jerry and the Boys in the Super Bowl. Fitty, Are
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  Speaker 1: you not so glad to not be a part of
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  Speaker 1: this annoying team that everybody obsesses over at the national
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  Speaker 1: media level?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, man.
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  Speaker 3: It feels good to be a fan of the local
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  Speaker 3: home grown.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, Ben there.
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  Speaker 3: You know, underrated team like the Carolina Panthers. My dad
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  Speaker 3: called me yesterday tolmy Cowboys one of the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: because they signed one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm telling you you know what. This
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  Speaker 1: is perfect. Let them get their it's attrition unlike any
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  Speaker 1: other boat. Let them get their hopes up, and let
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  Speaker 1: them just be crying at some point in a few.
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  Speaker 2: Months, usually in their Thanksgiving points.
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  Speaker 1: All right. By the way, speaking of teams bone that
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  Speaker 1: get hyped up this time and year only to be
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  Speaker 1: disappointed NC State wolf Pack, that happens quite a bit
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: on the football side of things. And we got to
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: talk about this. We gotta talk about Dave Doran getting
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  Speaker 1: called out by a student writer for the student newspaper
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  Speaker 1: there in Raleigh, of course. Speaking of Raleigh, that's where
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  Speaker 1: Adam gold Dust is. He has on the radio for decades.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety nine seven to fan in raleighty nine point nine. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I had it right to start. Why did I put
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  Speaker 1: a seven in there? Ninety nine nine to fan? There's
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  Speaker 1: another cold take ninety nine and nine to fan in Raleigh,
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  Speaker 1: and most importantly here in Charlotte weeknights on WFNZ at
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  Speaker 1: seven o'clock, he is Adam gold Goldie, that was not
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: a smooth intro. My friend, what is going on?
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  Speaker 4: You land the plane? Who cares?
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  Speaker 1: It got a little scary? Hey at Planelander, don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you get to our own station numbers wrong. That's true.
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  Speaker 1: That's at least I've gotten those right today. Goldie, what
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  Speaker 1: did you think of the writer for this the Technician
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  Speaker 1: to student newspaper making a run at Dave Dorn with
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  Speaker 1: all the talking points that you've probably heard over the
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  Speaker 1: years from State fans that we've heard over the years,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think about that? And like and where
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like you're around? You know, State fans.
• 2:56
  Speaker 1: You're talking State a bunch in Raleigh. What do you
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  Speaker 1: think the mentality is right now with State fans? With
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  Speaker 1: Dave Dorin?
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  Speaker 4: State fans have scars from everything, so it goes well
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  Speaker 4: before Dave Dorr. I've been saying I've been saying this
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  Speaker 4: about Darrin for a long time. I think he has
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  Speaker 4: built an upstanding football program. They do it right way.
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  Speaker 4: There's never a whip of anything like any of off
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  Speaker 4: the field issues at State. I mean the players are
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  Speaker 4: dying again. I think he does a great job. The
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  Speaker 4: only thing they have not done is good enough. Every
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  Speaker 4: year there's a game or two and you go, how
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  Speaker 4: do you use that?
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  Speaker 3: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Last year Virginia Tech. Right, yeah, But in terms of
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  Speaker 4: you know what you want from your football program, they
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  Speaker 4: check almost every box. It's just that one box. They
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  Speaker 4: have had no digit win seasons under Dave Dory and heck,
• 4:01
  Speaker 4: Larry Fedora had doubled the win season in Carolina. And
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't hold a candle to the way Dave Dren
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  Speaker 4: runs a football program. I mean, I wish the best
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  Speaker 4: for them, man. This schedule is tailor made for a
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  Speaker 4: ten year. Everything is really front loaded. You know, that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean they're gonna win the games in all the
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  Speaker 4: games in the back half, but uh, there's there's schedules
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  Speaker 4: set up in the first five weeks. They've got three.
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  Speaker 4: There are three tougher games probably in the first five
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  Speaker 4: weeks if they get off to a good start. And
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  Speaker 4: but I don't have any problem with anybody bringing receipts
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  Speaker 4: to Dave that you guys haven't done this, haven't done this,
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  Speaker 4: haven't done this, especially when he says when we win
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  Speaker 4: ten Uh. When the ACC network was on, which I loved,
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  Speaker 4: I I have no problem with it. Setting the bar high.
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  Speaker 4: Go for it, man, I hope he gets it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he feels good. He was frisky at ACC media days,
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  Speaker 1: he was.
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  Speaker 2: Man, Adam.
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  Speaker 1: How surprised are you that state got no votes for
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  Speaker 1: the top twenty five at all?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised at all. Oh No, I mean I'm
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you would have thought one vocal writer, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: a couple, a couple of in state writers. He would
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  Speaker 4: have thought one would have gone. Man, that schedule pretty easy.
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  Speaker 4: They've got lots the best returning quarterbacks in the country.
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  Speaker 4: The running game would be good. We don't know about
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  Speaker 4: the receivers, but you know, they just haven't been good
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  Speaker 4: enough defensively the last couple of years. And they lost
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of Carreous Pick left, so who knows. But yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the preseason, Paul, I mean, I laugh at it most
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  Speaker 4: of the time, But yeah, I guess I'm maybe I'm
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  Speaker 4: surprised that somebody didn't elite Sam for twenty fifth.
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  Speaker 2: What did you now?
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  Speaker 1: Clemson also unranked for the first time since twenty eleven
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  Speaker 1: in the AP pole. They were the one just outside
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  Speaker 1: though at twenty six. Essentially, what is your expectation for Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: They're a fascinating team. Like, I think they'll be better
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  Speaker 1: than last year, but how much better? Like how good
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  Speaker 1: do you think? Do you think they'll be ranked when
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  Speaker 1: the season's over, Goldie, No, No, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think they'll be. I don't know how they're gonna be
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  Speaker 4: better with less with western personnel. I mean they put
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  Speaker 4: eight guys drafted.
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  Speaker 1: My guy's drafted, right, yeah, oh yeah, nine guys drafted
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  Speaker 1: in seven wins.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't even understand, like they don't. They're not
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  Speaker 4: gonna have the same talent level obviously the quarterback, not
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  Speaker 4: the kay klub Nick was great because he's won them
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  Speaker 4: h but he had been there, I believe eleven years,
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  Speaker 4: and I think he got there with Daboe and the like.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't see how they're going to be better.
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  Speaker 4: Their schedule is not super easy. I think there, uh,
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  Speaker 4: there's gonna be some challenges. I think it's a it's
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  Speaker 4: a very good uh question. Who will what number will
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  Speaker 4: be larger Clemson's wins or North Carolina's loss? And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's a fun.
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  Speaker 2: One could end up time.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. No, I think I think
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  Speaker 4: I would. I would say I would juice it this way,
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  Speaker 4: I would say Clemson wins plus one and a half
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  Speaker 4: versus North Carolina losses.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, huh, I would be two and a half.
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  Speaker 4: Carolina's looking at ten losses.
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  Speaker 2: You think they're looking at ten.
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  Speaker 4: Carolina's ten laws.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a schedule down.
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  Speaker 1: That was actually my next question for you, and you
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  Speaker 1: just answered it. Is there any path at all for
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  Speaker 1: the Heels to make something out of this season?
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  Speaker 2: Can they be at least okay?
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  Speaker 1: Or do you think that this just has a second
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  Speaker 1: disaster written all over it.
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  Speaker 4: Well? I think they could be better. They will, They
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  Speaker 4: will be better than they were a year ago. But
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  Speaker 4: the schedule is I don't know how many you know
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  Speaker 4: factors more difficult. If you flip the home and road
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  Speaker 4: for UNC and just in conference play, if you took
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  Speaker 4: all of their road conference games, put them at home,
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  Speaker 4: and flipped the other way, I think they could threaten
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  Speaker 4: the ball game, but they don't. You can't, like place
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  Speaker 4: an Huno card in front of the front of the
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  Speaker 4: season and flip them. So I just think that they're
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  Speaker 4: going to struggle all year long, and they have a
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  Speaker 4: very difficult start to the season in terms of their schedule.
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  Speaker 4: Why they are playing a game at Yukon in November
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  Speaker 4: is mind blowing to me. Said the same thing, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, about Duke last year, and we saw how
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  Speaker 4: that turned out. Although I don't know that Connecticut is
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  Speaker 4: gonna be what they win ten games nine games last year.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if Yukon's gonna be that good, but
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  Speaker 4: still they're not bad. But it's I don't I don't
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  Speaker 4: end Vitario fans and what they're gonna do with this
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  Speaker 4: year because the speculation about moving on from Bill Belichick's
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  Speaker 4: gonna start. You know, I don't know Labor.
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  Speaker 1: Day, do you, Goldie? Do you believe that NC State
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  Speaker 1: or NC so I went back to n C State.
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  Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna get caught what back back again? O
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  Speaker 1: get caught? What back?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina? Isn't that I'm trying to say? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think North Carolina fans, Goldie, should be basically rooting for
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  Speaker 1: it to go really bad so that they get rid
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: of Belichick? Like I know some fans don't like that
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  Speaker 1: school of thought, but like that feels like their best
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  Speaker 1: chance to succeed at some point in the next few years.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard that, I've heard that take that the best
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  Speaker 4: case scenario for UNCA is a disaster season. Here's the thing,
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  Speaker 4: what level of commitment does their Like I understand what
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  Speaker 4: the phrase sunk cost means, because they've got to pay
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  Speaker 4: Belichick and staff for another year. Do they have enough
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  Speaker 4: backing financially to pay Belichick and staff Let's just say
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  Speaker 4: twenty dollars to walk away, then go out and hire
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  Speaker 4: another coaching staff and back them financially. Like, maybe it
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  Speaker 4: would be best to send Bill off and then bite
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  Speaker 4: the bullet on a on a what would have been
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  Speaker 4: year three for Bill with another coaching staff with no
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  Speaker 4: money to go out and get a credible roster and
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  Speaker 4: essentially tear it to the studs and start over. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. I personally, I think that there's no good
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  Speaker 4: solution here. The worst decision they could have possibly made
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  Speaker 4: ultimately will end up setting the program back I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: anywhere from three to five years. The Belichick gamble was
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  Speaker 4: so great that if if it didn't work, it was
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  Speaker 4: going to absolutely cost a lot of people their jobs.
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  Speaker 4: And now it wasn't Lee Roberts idea, but it probably
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  Speaker 4: will cost him his job at some point. Bubba Cunningham
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  Speaker 4: had nothing to do. This was this was all John Fryar,
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  Speaker 4: the former head of the board of trustees. I know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, i'd like to say I know that for
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  Speaker 4: a fact, but I have had it told to me
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  Speaker 4: by several people who would know that this was all
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  Speaker 4: John Pryor, and he got financial backing from whomever he
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  Speaker 4: needed to. And unfortunately it's going to be a football
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  Speaker 4: disaster at UNC. They better have basketball on solid ground.
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  Speaker 4: I think they will. I think Michael Malone will be fine,
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  Speaker 4: but my gosh, football is a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: They have to try to get out of this without
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: a buyout, right, they have to have him retire or
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  Speaker 1: quit or you wonder, is there is there a language
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  Speaker 1: in there that if he gets an infraction or he
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: gets in trouble and they can fire with cause for
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  Speaker 1: NCAA violation, can they maybe not have to pay the
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: full buyout because I think what Adam's saying, there full
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  Speaker 1: buyout for him now he would be ten million, I
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  Speaker 1: think goldie after the year. But then there's staff. Is
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  Speaker 1: you're saying the staff then would would Yeah, it is
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  Speaker 1: a fascinating situation.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't have to pay Michael and body too, and
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: they're gonna have to pay Bobby there's a lot of
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: people that are gonna get paid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I get I get what you're saying. Goldie.
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  Speaker 1: You last week Panther fans were so happy with you
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: had to run the ten win board up. Yeah, you're
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  Speaker 1: on the ten war ten win board. You had a
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: bounce in your step about Panther football. And then they
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: went out and played like that in the preseason. Do
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  Speaker 1: you care at all? Does that like, does that shake
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  Speaker 1: your confidence in this team? Or do you not care? Man?
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  Speaker 4: No, I care. I was a terrible performance. I was
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  Speaker 4: actually more put off by the defense than the offense.
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  Speaker 4: Did you didn't a punt?
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  Speaker 2: How do you?
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  Speaker 4: How do you play a preseason game and not force
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  Speaker 4: a punt? I just couldn't believe that.
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  Speaker 2: That's not ideal.
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  Speaker 4: I just went there was a hot knice through a
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  Speaker 4: butter man. But yeah, the offense, the middle of the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line was atrocious. They couldn't do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: They did pick up a first down, but of course
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: somebody was illegal downfield. Uh So I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I mean I think that we can point
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  Speaker 4: to that. I think Bryce did a couple of good things,
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  Speaker 4: but obviously three three and outs and uh, that was terrible,
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  Speaker 4: but the defense was atrocious. Other than Jalen Phillips made
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  Speaker 4: a couple of nice plays, and Frindsley and man Miellen
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  Speaker 4: made a couple of nice plays. Other than that, not
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  Speaker 4: a lot good big plays, broken coverages, no good. But
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  Speaker 4: move on. It's just a preseason game. I'm not losing
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  Speaker 4: any sleep over it at all. I think they'll be
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  Speaker 4: fun league.
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  Speaker 2: You still in the ten win wagon with us, Goaldy.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's I think two wins is
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  Speaker 4: out there. I don't want to say I'm predicting that
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  Speaker 4: they will win ten.
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  Speaker 2: H Shoot, Okay, we had you on the board.
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  Speaker 1: We had you on our board over here at ten,
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  Speaker 1: bones out crossing it off.
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  Speaker 2: Now put a question mark. He put a question mark
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  Speaker 2: next to you.
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's a range. I think there's a range
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  Speaker 4: for them. So uh and ten's within range.
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  Speaker 1: You're now on the ten win express maybe possibly ten.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, all.
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  Speaker 4: That is a possibility.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not all right, Well, you know what, you're not off.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll check back in next week. Yeah, we'll just
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: hold you right there. I'll just hold you there. We'll
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: check back with you. You may you may depart this
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: trip before before the destination. All right, Goldie, great talking
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  Speaker 1: to you, brother. Although Tar Heel fans are now mad
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: at you, so that's that's happening. They don't complainer in chief,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: does He is the guy that thinks they're beating Miami. Yeah,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: he thinks they're beating Miami and Louisville. Gold so he is.
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: He's very upset with you.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: All right. I would love a can of whatever he's got.
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  Speaker 2: Listen. I love for him to be right. It's just
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  Speaker 2: what what what evidence do we have to have any
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  Speaker 2: faith in this?
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  Speaker 1: This? This hurts my heart to say. These things can tell.
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you're upset, all right, going to you
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  Speaker 1: the man. We'll talk to you next week.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: The FROs