Latest / Best of Business / Melissa Haines: Bunnings NZ manager on the rollout of new facial recognition technology
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Bunnings has announced it has switched on the facial recognition
- 0:20Speaker 2: cameras in New Zealand, but only in two stores in Hamilton.
- 0:23Speaker 2: The retailer says threats against staff have more than doubled
- 0:26Speaker 2: in the last four years. Over a third are linked
- 0:28Speaker 2: to repeat offenders. Melissa Haynes as Bunnings's New Zealand general
- 0:31Speaker 2: manager Home Melissa, Hello, why are you only doing two
- 0:36Speaker 2: stores in Hamilton?
- 0:39Speaker 3: Look, we're taking a really considered approach with rolling out
- 0:42Speaker 3: facial recognition technology. So we're starting with the two stores,
- 0:45Speaker 3: make sure that we've got everything right from a training
- 0:49Speaker 3: and operational perspective, and then we'll continue with phase roll
- 0:52Speaker 3: out for the rest of the stores.
- 0:53Speaker 2: So how long do you give it in Hamilton before
- 0:55Speaker 2: you decide? Yep, pulpin for everybody else.
- 0:59Speaker 3: We don't have a fixed timeline. It's going to depend
- 1:01Speaker 3: on what we find over the next few weeks, but
- 1:05Speaker 3: we are keen to get it into as many stores
- 1:08Speaker 3: and pro as possible. If we're seeing that reduction and
- 1:12Speaker 3: threatening behavior.
- 1:13Speaker 2: How much opposition are you facing in New Zealand towards this.
- 1:19Speaker 3: Actually, I've been really pleased with the positivity that we've
- 1:22Speaker 3: had from this. I think there's a really good understanding
- 1:26Speaker 3: of what our real tail team members are dealing with
- 1:29Speaker 3: across the country, which unfortunately has been a very scary
- 1:33Speaker 3: increase in violent and threatening behaviors in stores. And this
- 1:37Speaker 3: is just, you know, one of the tools that hopefully
- 1:39Speaker 3: is available, which is kind of a difference to reduce
- 1:42Speaker 3: that kind of situation that our team and our customers
- 1:45Speaker 3: are facing every day.
- 1:47Speaker 2: Do you can you assure because the texts I've had
- 1:49Speaker 2: are along the lines of worried about you guys losing
- 1:52Speaker 2: people's faces the photographs on selling people's biometric data. Are
- 1:56Speaker 2: you going to do any of the selling?
- 1:59Speaker 3: Absolutely not. This has been used solely as a tool
- 2:03Speaker 3: to reduce violent and threatening behavior in our stores. So
- 2:07Speaker 3: if someone comes into our stores, there is a very
- 2:10Speaker 3: quick scan of the face. If there's any match to
- 2:13Speaker 3: a person that's previously committed serious harm in our stores,
- 2:17Speaker 3: then that's where we're using it. Otherwise the image is
- 2:20Speaker 3: deleted and less than a blink of an eye. Okay,
- 2:23Speaker 3: So for you know, most people coming into our stores
- 2:25Speaker 3: this is you know, absolutely no harm whatsoever.
- 2:27Speaker 2: Why do you engage a Maori digital sovereignty expert?
- 2:32Speaker 3: Well, As I said, it's really important to us to
- 2:34Speaker 3: take careful and considered approach to this, including governance of
- 2:38Speaker 3: the whole program. So we worked with doctor Todu to
- 2:41Speaker 3: make sure that our approach in terms of taking into
- 2:44Speaker 3: accounts you know, cultural significance of biometric data, how our
- 2:49Speaker 3: training is put together, and how we do respond you know,
- 2:53Speaker 3: if any situation arose where there was a mistake made,
- 2:55Speaker 3: that we made sure that we really know exactly what
- 2:58Speaker 3: we're doing. So we wanted to make sure that it's
- 3:00Speaker 3: a really robust process and takes all those things into
- 3:04Speaker 3: account and engaged with our Maori community, both our team
- 3:07Speaker 3: members and across New Zealand to understand where their concerns
- 3:10Speaker 3: were and that we could make sure that our approach
- 3:12Speaker 3: addressed those all.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Right, Melissa, thank you very much for talking us through.
- 3:15Speaker 2: That's Melissa Haynes, general manager of Bunnings here in New Zealand.
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