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Friday Mornings with Jack Windsor · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The talk station.
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  Speaker 2: bookmark the ohio press network.com my guest jack windsor uh
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  Speaker 2: posts things over there he closely follows a lot of
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  Speaker 2: shenanigans as i like to call it going on in
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  Speaker 2: the uh Well, in the state of Ohio, generally speaking,
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  Speaker 2: and even issues on national attention, Jack Windsor, good to
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  Speaker 2: see you this morning. I'm glad I got you on Zoom,
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  Speaker 2: and thanks for joining the 55K to See Morning Show.
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  Speaker 1: Brian. Go ahead. Sorry. I just say good to be here.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for choosing me. Good to see you. And Joe,
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  Speaker 1: I apologize. My voice is a little worn out today.
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  Speaker 1: I attended my first Cleveland Browns game in probably several
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  Speaker 1: years last night. So late night and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: vocal cords strained. I bet.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I just want to. Quickly interject some sort of
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  Speaker 2: derogatory comment about $ 600 million of taxpayer money going into
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  Speaker 2: the coffers of the Cleveland Browns' privately owned sports franchise,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll just let that one go. We have the
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  Speaker 2: same problem here, as you well know, Jack. I just
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  Speaker 2: am absolutely against that concept. I find it offensive.
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  Speaker 1: Me too.
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  Speaker 2: Pay for your own damn stadiums. Anyway, Jack Windsor, you
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  Speaker 2: didn't call to talk about that. New developments. You're following
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  Speaker 2: this Ismail Mohamed case. I know you have some new developments.
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  Speaker 2: Reset and remind my listeners, in the thumbnail sketch, what
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  Speaker 2: got us to this point?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so there are so many moving pieces here. I
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  Speaker 1: will go as far into the weeds on this as
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  Speaker 1: you want because I promise you we're covering this at
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  Speaker 1: a depth and breadth that no other outlet in the
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  Speaker 1: country is. Columbus State Representative Ishmael Muhammad, he's an attorney,
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  Speaker 1: and he told the elections board under oath that he
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  Speaker 1: signed his mortgage. his tax break form, and his ethics
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  Speaker 1: disclosure without reading any of them. And the next morning.
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  Speaker 2: Isn't that unethical?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you would think as an attorney, right? If it's
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  Speaker 1: not unethical, it certainly is a bad look.
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  Speaker 2: Stupid?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very stupid. Monday at the Franklin County Board of Elections,
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  Speaker 1: the hearing ran nearly 10 hours. And Muhammad is a
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  Speaker 1: Democrat representing House District 3, Columbus's North Side. His opponent
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  Speaker 1: is Bernadine Kennedy Kent. She challenged his residency. She's a
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  Speaker 1: former Democrat state rep who beat him in 2018 in
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  Speaker 1: the primary there. And she's now running on the Republican ticket.
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  Speaker 1: Muhammad testified he spends weekdays in an apartment in his district,
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  Speaker 1: weekends and holidays at his $ 587, 000 house on Heather Ridge
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  Speaker 1: Drive in Delaware County. And he bought that house in
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  Speaker 1: October 2025. Now, the board, interestingly... Brian voted three to
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  Speaker 1: one on Monday to let him keep his registration and
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  Speaker 1: how that all went down with the board of elections.
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  Speaker 1: Chairman is an entirely separate can of worms that we
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  Speaker 1: could spend a whole hour on. But just, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of things that Ishmael Muhammad has, he has
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  Speaker 1: an issue because he said under oath that he made
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  Speaker 1: false statements on a mortgage document. He said under oath
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  Speaker 1: that he completed a tax form incorrectly. He said under oath,
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  Speaker 1: that he didn't list his investment property on his financial
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  Speaker 1: disclosure form, which is required of state lawmakers. He admitted
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  Speaker 1: all of that under oath. I would expect that we're
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  Speaker 1: going to see some additional investigations. But in addition to
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  Speaker 1: those things, he still has $ 93, 000 in cash missing from
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  Speaker 1: his campaign coffers that he can't pin down anywhere. We
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  Speaker 1: also have uncovered, he testified Monday under oath, that the
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  Speaker 1: investment property, that the investment, I'm using air quotes, property
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  Speaker 1: that he has in Delaware County that he intended to
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  Speaker 1: rent out. So the question was followed up with, well,
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  Speaker 1: have you rented it out? And he said, well, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: but we have this plan and, you know, we could
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  Speaker 1: use like Airbnb, VRBO was what I took from what
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  Speaker 1: he said. Well, we did a little digging and unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: for Ishmael Muhammad, the homeowners association where that home is
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  Speaker 1: located does not allow that type of transient renting. So
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  Speaker 1: now he has that issue. Oh, and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: he has another LLC that I think we've identified that
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  Speaker 1: is also not listed on his financial disclosure form. So
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  Speaker 1: this guy has a truckload of issues. And as it
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  Speaker 1: stands right now, he's still a qualified elector in his district.
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  Speaker 1: But I expect that we're going to see some more
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  Speaker 1: on this case down the road.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I would expect. Going back to the missing $ 93, 000,
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  Speaker 2: was he asked questions about that? You said that still
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  Speaker 2: hasn't been accounted for.
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  Speaker 1: So, no. Well, let me back up. This was like
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  Speaker 1: 10 hours, his hearing. And so I got through most
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  Speaker 1: of it. And then I had to prepare for my
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  Speaker 1: radio show. And then I had to go back and
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  Speaker 1: read reports and notes. This weekend, I planned to, I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know I'm a partier. I'm such a crazy guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to actually listen to the last few hours
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  Speaker 1: of that to make sure that I take it all in.
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  Speaker 1: This is a case that we've covered from the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: But I do not believe he was asked about the
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  Speaker 1: $ 93, 000 as much, only because this hearing was more about
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  Speaker 1: his residency. Where do you live? I do know that
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  Speaker 1: the Secretary of State's office is still looking into many
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  Speaker 1: of his financial disclosure forms, but I also have to
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  Speaker 1: report that they fined him $ 1, 200 Tuesday. He testified on Monday.
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  Speaker 1: On Tuesday, it came out that he was fined $ 1, 200, one,
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  Speaker 1: for not reporting a loan properly, and then two, for
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  Speaker 1: not completing his financial disclosure forms appropriately. But we're still
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  Speaker 1: trying to pin down the $ 93, 000. That's another separate issue.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if the hammer to fully fall down on this
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  Speaker 2: guy because of these obvious improprieties, what is the result
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  Speaker 2: of that? What do you anticipate would happen to him?
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  Speaker 1: Listen, I've got to be very careful here. But if
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  Speaker 1: the Federal Bureau of Investigations is not looking into this
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  Speaker 1: guy and looking into everything that we just talked about,
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  Speaker 1: then I think the 14th Amendment is a joke. And
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  Speaker 1: I think you know where I'm going with that.
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  Speaker 2: I understand.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's a lawmaker. And, Brian, if you and I
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  Speaker 1: did this, our asses would be in prison already. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Let's make no joke about that. So I expect that
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  Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot more scrutiny. At least
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  Speaker 1: I hope there is.
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  Speaker 2: Is he a flight risk? Don't go away. I'm just kidding.
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  Speaker 1: No, when you, I want to, well, you got to
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  Speaker 1: take a break, but there's something on that that I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. I opened a new can of worms. We'll
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  Speaker 2: dive into it when we get back with Jack Windsor. Plus,
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  Speaker 2: we will talk about what's going on at Garver Farms
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  Speaker 2: in Butler County more with aislepressnetwork.com's Jack Windsor. Don't go away.
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  Speaker 1: 55KRC. com. The Talk Station.
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  Speaker 2: 840-55-KRTV Talk Station. Brian Thomas with Jack Windsor from TheOhioPressNetwork.com.
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  Speaker 2: Check out his radio program. Check out his website and
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  Speaker 2: listen to what he has to say and follow what
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  Speaker 2: he is following, including I made that sort of joking,
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  Speaker 2: at least I thought it was a joking comment about
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  Speaker 2: Ismail Mohammed since you mentioned the feds and federal investigators
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  Speaker 2: pursuing presumably federal crimes involved in these underlying shenanigans. I joked,
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  Speaker 2: I said, well, is he a flight risk? And there
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  Speaker 2: must have been something to that because you apparently had
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  Speaker 2: some points to make on that. Jack Windsor, please do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be careful when you talk under oath, right?
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  Speaker 1: Because that gets recorded and it can be used against
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  Speaker 1: you later. One interesting bit of information that we uncovered
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  Speaker 1: before the hearing that he was asked about, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: he was served a subpoena at his investment property. It's
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  Speaker 1: not at his investment property, in my opinion, but that's
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  Speaker 1: where he was served a subpoena. And the next day,
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  Speaker 1: I think it was the next day, he changed his
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  Speaker 1: address to another address in his district. So he was asked,
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  Speaker 1: did you live in that first address the entirety up
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  Speaker 1: until a few days ago? He said, well, yeah, I did. Okay. Well,
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  Speaker 1: subpoenaed records from American Electric Power show that at that
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  Speaker 1: property he claims to live at, between January and March
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  Speaker 1: of 2026, the power was out. And you go, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of a bad time, right? January. Well, if
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  Speaker 1: you remember, Brian, it was nine degrees below zero in January.
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  Speaker 1: So apparently he lived there at nine below zero. And
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  Speaker 1: the interesting part was when he was confronted with that fact,
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  Speaker 1: that set of facts at Monday's hearing, he said, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot. I was out of the country for a
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  Speaker 1: while and then lived with my mom during that time.
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  Speaker 1: So technically it was my address, but I wasn't there
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  Speaker 1: And so you go, oh, you were out of the country?
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  Speaker 1: So to your question, is he a flight risk, we
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  Speaker 1: kind of ask that tongue-in-cheek, but I don't know. Is he?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, where'd he go? Back to Somalia? I would
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  Speaker 1: say yes, he is a flight risk. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, honestly, under the circumstances, if he fled
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  Speaker 2: to Somalia or anyplace else in the four corners of
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  Speaker 2: the globe, it would relieve us of the obligation to
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  Speaker 2: have to continue following up this and pursue criminal charges,
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  Speaker 2: saving the taxpayers a tremendous amount of money for what
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  Speaker 2: seems to be an open and shut case.
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  Speaker 1: Jack? I am going to shake my head and say
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  Speaker 1: I'm stating my opinion, and I fully agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: All right. Go ahead, Ismael. Head on out. We'll just
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  Speaker 2: call it. We'll stick a fork in it and call
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  Speaker 2: it done. Pivoting over, what's going on at Garver Farms
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  Speaker 2: in Butler County, Jack Windsor?
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  Speaker 1: Man, we uncovered something else here, too. We didn't. It
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  Speaker 1: was already percolating, right? The Garvers have farmed in Lemon
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  Speaker 1: Township since 1926, and on March 17th, the county's Board
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  Speaker 1: of Zoning Appeals voted four to one in favor of
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  Speaker 1: the farm. There were some alleged infractions, right? And the
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  Speaker 1: Zoning Appeals Board said, no, we side with the farm
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  Speaker 1: four to one. The county under the prosecutor appealed that
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  Speaker 1: Board of Zoning Appeals decision. And Judge Greg Stevens in
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  Speaker 1: the Common Police Court threw it out and said, the
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  Speaker 1: county doesn't have standing in this matter. You can't just
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  Speaker 1: appeal when the county that you represent has what you
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  Speaker 1: think is, you know, an adverse opinion. and uh well
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  Speaker 1: you would think that would be over but on september
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  Speaker 1: 23rd prosecutor mike moser filed again this time with the
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  Speaker 1: 12th district court of appeals so uh i had elena
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  Speaker 1: uh garver in my studio earlier this week for about
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  Speaker 1: three segments and she unpacked a lot of information Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: with respect to how this situation with Garver Farms is
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  Speaker 1: being handled.
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  Speaker 2: Well, do you know what Moser's problem is with Garver Farms?
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  Speaker 2: What's the underlying zoning issue or the four-to-one decision based on?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said that they built a supermarket, basically,
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  Speaker 1: and that they don't have the appropriate paperwork. He compared
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  Speaker 1: the family's explanation to why they don't have that to
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  Speaker 1: a kid telling the teacher that the dog ate his
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  Speaker 1: homework And what I've gathered is that the family went
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  Speaker 1: to the powers that be and asked if they needed
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  Speaker 1: to file paperwork or something different. And they said, well, no.
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  Speaker 1: And so I dug into that a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: talked to a couple of legal experts there in that area.
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  Speaker 1: And what they told me was there was really no
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  Speaker 1: reason for them to file anything because they're considered agriculture.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of a open, closed, shut, whatever you
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  Speaker 1: want to call it. But Mosier has said that the
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  Speaker 1: public is misinformed, that he's going to file a brief,
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  Speaker 1: that this is not personal, though I would question that.
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  Speaker 1: We're starting to uncover some stuff there. And he also
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  Speaker 1: said that it is a public safety matter. But I've
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  Speaker 1: asked him twice now what that specific public safety issue is.
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  Speaker 1: Can you name it? Can you give me the public
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  Speaker 1: records that show that that exists? And he's not yet answered.
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  Speaker 1: or turned over public records to prove to me that
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  Speaker 1: that's an accurate statement.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so far, based upon what I know from you
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  Speaker 2: just this morning on this topic, I'm with you, Jack Windsor.
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  Speaker 2: I smell a rat, too. We'll see what happens, because
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  Speaker 2: we'll wait to get the final analysis. We'll wait to
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  Speaker 2: get the brief and see where he's coming from and
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  Speaker 2: draw our conclusions after that. Jack Windsor from the Ohio
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  Speaker 2: Press Network. Don't go away. It is 850 at 55K
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  Speaker 2: or CD Talk Station. Happy Friday. Jack Windsor from the
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  Speaker 2: Ohio Press Network. Well, let's close out Friday's show with
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  Speaker 2: a few segments with Jack. Interesting stuff it is. As always,
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  Speaker 2: get on, bookmark his page, OhioPressNetwork.com. You have polling information
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  Speaker 2: we can talk about and actually believe Jack Windsor, or
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  Speaker 2: is this the same kind of stuff that we've been
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  Speaker 2: reading over and over again, trying to convince Republicans that,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, don't even bother. You're going to be completely,
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  Speaker 2: have your clock cleaned completely, so just stay home. Is
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  Speaker 2: that really what these polls are all about, Jack? Or
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  Speaker 2: have you found something that we can actually say, you
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  Speaker 2: know what, that looks pretty right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go right to the heart of it
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  Speaker 1: instead of giving you the political answer. So a couple
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  Speaker 1: of things are true. We're seeing polling similar to what
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  Speaker 1: we've seen in 2018, 2022, and 2024. And if you're
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  Speaker 1: a Republican, you remember in the fall, the sky's falling, right?
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  Speaker 1: DeWine trailed Cordray in 2018. In 22, J.D. Vance trailed
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  Speaker 1: Tim Ryan. In 24, Bernie Marino trailed Sherrod Brown. And
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  Speaker 1: in all of those instances, Republicans won. And so these
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  Speaker 1: polls that we see traditionally are somewhere between 6% and 9% wrong,
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  Speaker 1: meaning they lean toward the Democrat. Here's the one caveat
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  Speaker 1: I'm always careful about, though. If the tide does turn,
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  Speaker 1: this is what it would look like, right? So even
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  Speaker 1: though history tells us in this case, it looks like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Brown is up 51 to 43 over Husted and acting
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  Speaker 1: up over Ramaswamy 50 to 44. Uh, if the tide
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  Speaker 1: was turning, that's how they would look. But like I said,
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  Speaker 1: you look back over history and you go, that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of within that band where we we've seen this movie before. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But I think what we have to really be careful
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  Speaker 1: of is look at each of those candidates in each
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  Speaker 1: of those races. And I, I'll say it this way
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  Speaker 1: and then ask any questions that you want. I think
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  Speaker 1: the Sherrod Brown, John Husted race is wholly different than
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  Speaker 1: the Vivek Ramaswamy, Amy Acton race for a couple of reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, Sherrod Brown has one of the most durable
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  Speaker 1: brands in Ohio politics. True. Love him, hate him. He
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  Speaker 1: gets people to turn out and he gets a lot
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  Speaker 1: of votes. That puts John Husted in a pickle. There
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  Speaker 1: are some Republicans that are still upset with John Husted
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  Speaker 1: because he did not disconnect his wagon from Mike DeWine
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  Speaker 1: during COVID. And then, of course, the Democrats down the
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  Speaker 1: stretch here are going to talk a lot about House
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  Speaker 1: Bill 6, so on and so forth. Now, I think that,
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  Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, John Husted's in a tougher position
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  Speaker 1: than Vivek Ramaswamy for a couple of reasons. Vivek has money.
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  Speaker 1: He's going to spend it. And he's going to do
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  Speaker 1: everything that he can to make sure that he wins
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  Speaker 1: that office. He also has a competitor who has a
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  Speaker 1: slew of personal issues. And by the way, we have
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  Speaker 1: experience with her, not as an elected official. but as
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  Speaker 1: an incompetent doctor who partially led Ohio's COVID response. So
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  Speaker 1: I look at Vivek's race, and I say he's probably
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  Speaker 1: in a better position. But then I also have to
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  Speaker 1: caveat that with he's not a Christian. He has a
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  Speaker 1: funny last name. He has brown skin. And, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in some circles in the Republican Party, that tamps down turnout.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're the ones I'm pissed off at, Jack.
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  Speaker 2: Every time I hear that, I'm like, it's 2026. You
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  Speaker 2: got a guy that if he was a white guy
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  Speaker 2: and he had a name like– Jack Windsor, then you'd
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  Speaker 2: be all over him. Oh, my God, this is the
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  Speaker 2: greatest thing. He's straight out of central casting. Okay, because
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  Speaker 2: he's named Vivek Ramaswamy because he's Hindu, that makes him... Jack,
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  Speaker 2: you hit a nerve with that one, man. I've been
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  Speaker 2: hearing that from people, and I just want to punch
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  Speaker 2: him in the face metaphorically.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm with you. I can't tell you how many
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  Speaker 1: times I hear, this one really makes me mad. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's an anchor baby, and all the Gripers love to
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  Speaker 1: complain about his ethnicity. It's gross. It's racist. I don't
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  Speaker 1: like it. But then once you get out of the
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  Speaker 1: woods there, then he gets clobbered over the head with, well,
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  Speaker 1: he's a billionaire. I look at that. So I want
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  Speaker 1: to say this explicitly. It's okay to like Vivek Ramaswamy.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay to like success. Because frankly, when I look
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  Speaker 1: at my kids, I want them to succeed. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want them to be failures. I don't want them to
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  Speaker 1: be addicted to pills and alcohol. I want them to
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  Speaker 1: be good human beings who are productive. So to me,
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  Speaker 1: I look at this and I go, it's a clear
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  Speaker 1: winner in my book. This is my opinion. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure... Ohioans are seeing that at the scale that
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  Speaker 1: you and I would like.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you don't have to demonize the man because
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  Speaker 2: he is so successful. Listen, first off, I know you
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  Speaker 2: want your children to be as successful as Vivek Ramaswamy.
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  Speaker 2: Get them a good education. Let them go into free society.
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  Speaker 2: They may be able to accomplish that. But if they're
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  Speaker 2: like me, you can measure success a different way and
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  Speaker 2: be thankful that there's a guy like Ramaswamy employing people
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  Speaker 2: like me in some capacity as a W-2 employee. Why?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm not an entrepreneurial-minded person. But you know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'm willing to put in a hard day's work. I'm
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: willing to earn an income. without having started a business.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: This is what makes the world go around. So embrace
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Vivek Ramasamy and also be thankful that he's not going
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: to office to get rich. He's already done that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. You know, I had a conversation with him
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: last week and I have an event where he's going
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: to be featured tonight. And I said, you know, one
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: of the things that I want you to be prepared
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: to answer Vivek is why, why are you doing this?
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Because Brian, if I were his age and a billionaire,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I quit. Go get a yacht and chill for a while.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be something to this well beyond.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I just want to use the state and its people
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to get wealthier. I don't think it's that.
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: No, he loves he loves Ohio. He loves his upbringing.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: He loves the city of Cincinnati. He's willing to give back.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: There are people like him who are driven to work
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: and prosper and do well. And he's done so well
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: for himself. He's sharing the love with everybody else. I
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: think it's awesome. Jack, I find no problem at all
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: with that man, and I just really scratch my head
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: and wonder how in God's name even a skewed pole
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: could have Amy acting ahead.