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A Money & Wealth Ministry ft. Bishop TD Jakes · Money And Wealth With John Hope Bryant

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  Speaker 1: Welcome The Money and Wealth with John O'Bryant, a production
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  Speaker 1: about it. I don't normally have guests on my podcast
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  Speaker 1: unless they're truly extraordinary, such as the case today. And
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  Speaker 1: when I have guests on my podcast, I don't normally
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  Speaker 1: spend time going over their bio. You pretty much know
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  Speaker 1: who these folks are. They're on the podcast as a guest.
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  Speaker 1: It's signature. They are the goat. They are the best
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  Speaker 1: in class in their area. But it's not often I
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  Speaker 1: have the chance to have well the world's black Pope
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  Speaker 1: on my podcast and a spiritual leader for our time
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  Speaker 1: here and around the world, somebody whose name echoes through
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  Speaker 1: history alive. He also has to be a very good
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  Speaker 1: human being and a very dear and important friend of mine.
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  Speaker 1: But I think you need to understand the sustance behind
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  Speaker 1: the name and behind the booming voice. Of course, I'm
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  Speaker 1: talking about none other than you would know him as
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  Speaker 1: Bishop TD Jakes. Others might know him as Chairman TD Jakes. Still,
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  Speaker 1: others might know him as my friend TD Jakes, or
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  Speaker 1: my or my husband TD Jakes, or my benefactor TD Jakes,
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  Speaker 1: or my backer TD Jakes, or my prayer partner, my
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  Speaker 1: prayer warrior TD Jakes, or the strategists TD Jakes, or
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  Speaker 1: the advisor to heads of state around the world. Let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you a little bit more about the substance
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  Speaker 1: of the man from a credentials perspective, and then we're
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  Speaker 1: going to get into a conversation that is edgy and
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  Speaker 1: necessary for this time that I'm calling making boring sexy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Bishop Jakes called it making boring sexy, which
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  Speaker 1: is a play in my mind off of let's make
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  Speaker 1: smart sexy. This is much more important. This is much
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  Speaker 1: more important, and you'll understand why within the next forty
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  Speaker 1: five minutes or so. Bio credentials Things you should know
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  Speaker 1: about this man boring Thomas Dexter Jakes, Senior. He's a
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  Speaker 1: globally renowned pastor, author, filmmaker, and entrepreneur. Born June ninth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty seven. Happy birthday, my good brother.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: He was born in South Charleston, West Virginia. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: the same little town my wife, Shake Tra Bryant, was
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  Speaker 1: born in.
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  Speaker 2: What's the chances of that? Reminds me? Bishop that.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor King had met Andrew Young, Ambassador Andrew Young. Now
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  Speaker 1: and Andrew started working Young started working for doctor King,
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  Speaker 1: and later on it was discovered that Cretiscott King and
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  Speaker 1: Jean Chiles Young were born and raised in the same
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  Speaker 1: little small town. What's the chances of that? Coincidence is
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  Speaker 1: God's way of remaining anonymous. Sometimes good soil. We'll get
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  Speaker 1: into that.
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  Speaker 2: My mother was born in hmm, wow, there you go,
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  Speaker 2: Mary in Alabama, Mary in Alabama. I did not know that. So.
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  Speaker 1: He is the founder and senior pastor of what you
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  Speaker 1: would know as The Potter's House in Dallas, Texas, a
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  Speaker 1: non denominational megachurch with over thirty thousand members. Known for
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  Speaker 1: his dynamic preaching style and messages of healing, empowerment, and faith,
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  Speaker 1: Jason's become one of the most influential religious leaders in
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  Speaker 1: the world. He is a New York Times best selling
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  Speaker 1: author time and again with books such as Women thou
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  Speaker 1: art loose. This was This was a huge phenomenon when
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  Speaker 1: it came out, and he had a huge conference there
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  Speaker 1: still going on. But he had this one conference here
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta where he sold out the stadium here had
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  Speaker 1: never been done before.
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  Speaker 2: Sore Destiny is.
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  Speaker 1: Another book that reached wide audiences and bestseller. His multimedia empire,
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  Speaker 1: yes I said multimedia empire, separate from his pastoral duties,
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  Speaker 1: spans television, music, and film, most notably through his production
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  Speaker 1: company Tdjke's Enterprises, and his film work includes Jumping the
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  Speaker 1: Broom and Miracles from Heaven.
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  Speaker 2: He's won awards for all of this.
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  Speaker 1: Separate from his work in the church, Jason's also respected
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  Speaker 1: voice in business and leadership, hosting the annual International Leadership Summit.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing wrong with that summit is he lord
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  Speaker 1: his standards to let me speak and advises leaders across faith, politics,
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  Speaker 1: and commerce. His work frequently bridges the gap between spirituality
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  Speaker 1: and personal development, especially within the African American community. He
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  Speaker 1: also gets no credit. He also no good d shall
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  Speaker 1: go unpunished. I was talking to Charlemagne and I got
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  Speaker 1: a friend of ours, the radio personality probably arguably one
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  Speaker 1: of the two or three most influential in African culture
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  Speaker 1: in the world. And he was saying as he talked
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  Speaker 1: about icons who just get no appreciation, he mentioned Oprah,
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  Speaker 1: he mentioned a couple other names, and he mentioned TD
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  Speaker 1: Jenkes in the same breath. And I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: appropriate analogy. But when I'm talking to him offline, which
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  Speaker 1: is experiencing fellowship and authenticity, and I consider him a
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  Speaker 1: dear friend. Now I am now getting into the substance
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  Speaker 1: of this, so it's not just a total love fest
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  Speaker 1: for him. I want you to see what I see.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to hear what I hear. He's got
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  Speaker 1: advice for you for this time, which is a moment
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  Speaker 1: in history. So when you said Chairman Jakes, Bishop TD Jakes,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to start Bishop Tdjakes first, because I believe
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  Speaker 1: this is a spiritual conversation that goes in to a
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  Speaker 1: business conversation and a personal development conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I think people are lost.
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  Speaker 1: I think people need I think people need healing, and
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  Speaker 1: they need direction, they need rooting, grounding, they need to
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  Speaker 1: be put in good.
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  Speaker 2: Soil again, they're a drift. I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think people are depressed. And so you've got a
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  Speaker 1: good pulse or sort of where the world is and
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  Speaker 1: where it's going. You're very rarely surprised. Even when somebody's
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  Speaker 1: attacking you, you're you're you're disappointed, but you're not surprised.
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  Speaker 2: Because you see where the world's going.
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  Speaker 1: You see the pain and hurt people, hurt people, And
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  Speaker 1: you tell me, folks are going.
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  Speaker 2: Back inside one day, black folk's going back inside. I
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  Speaker 2: thought I was. I didn't know what you admit, but
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  Speaker 2: I thought it was hilarious. I'm like, what is that?
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  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: And sure enough, people folks, black folks black and folks
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  Speaker 1: like folks went back inside.
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  Speaker 2: When you say we need to make boring sexy, what
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  Speaker 2: do you mean by that? Well, first of all, thank
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  Speaker 2: you for allowing me the privilege of being with you.
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  Speaker 2: And if there's anything boring, it's probably all the things
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  Speaker 2: you said about me. Truth. Maybe we can get to
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  Speaker 2: the SESSI per uh. I think that I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: we ever fully came out from Kobe. When you start
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  Speaker 2: talking about people going inside and introverted staying in the house.
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  Speaker 2: Let's stopped going to theaters, stop going to malls, to
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  Speaker 2: stop going out as much. I think we still are
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  Speaker 2: somewhat sheltering in place more recently with the immigration issues
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  Speaker 2: and all of the other things that are threatening US, inflation,
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  Speaker 2: so forth, and so on. I think we are still
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  Speaker 2: sheltering in place, taking less vacations, going on less ventures,
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  Speaker 2: more apprehensive about buying property, building, advancing ourselves. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that we have to come out of the shadows
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  Speaker 2: into the light. While we are in the shadows, we
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  Speaker 2: have to use this to understand that we're in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of a paradigm shift such as we have not
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  Speaker 2: seen since the invention of the car or the airplane.
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  Speaker 2: And it's important that we understand that. You can ignore
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  Speaker 2: it if you want to and keep your horse and buggy,
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  Speaker 2: but the roads are not going to be amenable to
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  Speaker 2: your horse and buggy because the whole world is changing
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  Speaker 2: through technology and AI and all of that, and we
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  Speaker 2: either get with it or get run over by it.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, we have to take I'm currently signing
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  Speaker 2: I'm to take a Google course to become more today.
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  Speaker 2: You have to keep learning at every age, in every
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  Speaker 2: stage in order to be relative, if not marketable, if
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  Speaker 2: not communicative. The language has changed, the methods have changed,
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  Speaker 2: and I think now, like never before, we're on an
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  Speaker 2: even playing field because nobody knows what they're doing. You know,
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  Speaker 2: AI is new to everybody, So maybe, for once in
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  Speaker 2: a lifetime, everybody is learning at the same time in
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  Speaker 2: the same way, and we need to take advantage of that.
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  Speaker 2: Rather than to scream at the darkness, we need to
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  Speaker 2: light a candle, read a book, pick up a book. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: do something constructive because this may be the only time
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  Speaker 2: in history that we're all starting out basically, as it
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  Speaker 2: relates to artificial intelligence, almost illiterate. We're all learning together,
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  Speaker 2: we're growing together, we're discovering together, and that's a good
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  Speaker 2: opportunity to do a reset, to transform the way we think,
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  Speaker 2: the way we function, and the way we plan our future.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question I never asked you
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  Speaker 2: before ever. Do you think the current.
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  Speaker 1: Political transformations and changes that we are witnessing in our
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  Speaker 1: lifetime that we've never seen in this way before as
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  Speaker 1: relates to people of color and black people in particular
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  Speaker 1: formally enslaved in American soil and rights designed to protect them, etcetera,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. The change is going on here
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  Speaker 1: that maybe send us into a place more of self
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  Speaker 1: reliance in our attitudes maybe is that more a threat
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  Speaker 1: or is AI the coming AI revolution that you just
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  Speaker 1: mentioned more a threat. Before you answer that, I will
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  Speaker 1: say just to show how show how how prescient and
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  Speaker 1: brilliant you are. I was just on the phone with
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  Speaker 1: our mutual hero ambassador Andrew Young, who wants me to
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  Speaker 1: come by his house and hook up chat GPT on
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  Speaker 1: his phone in ninety three years ninety three years Young
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: A request, it was it was a It was a direction, right.
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  Speaker 1: And he wants all all other social media platforms there
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  Speaker 1: so he can watch it like he thinks this is
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  Speaker 1: the new TV. I think he's right, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and he wants you to on the other whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Van Jones, who is a mutual friend of ours, said
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  Speaker 1: that nine and I persent a black folks don't know
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  Speaker 1: a thing about AI, and nine I sent a white
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  Speaker 1: folks don't know a thing about AI either. It was
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  Speaker 1: a mutual opportunity discrimination. We're all starting at the same place,
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  Speaker 1: which is essentially what you yes. So, in your opinion,
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  Speaker 1: is one of these changes or challenges or moments in
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  Speaker 1: time more challenging and more important to maneuver than the other.
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  Speaker 2: Are you think they're equally important. I think it's the
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  Speaker 2: perfect storm if we don't use it as an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to strengthen from within. Nobody's coming to save us, nobody's
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  Speaker 2: coming to rescue us, nobody's coming to get us. It
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  Speaker 2: is clear and apparent that less and less people are
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  Speaker 2: even interested in us, and so that forces us into
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  Speaker 2: a conundrum where either we shout and cry and pick
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  Speaker 2: it and tweet and post and do all that sort
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  Speaker 2: of stuff which does absolutely nothing, or we use it
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  Speaker 2: as a time to strengthen from within internally partnering with
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  Speaker 2: each other, amassing our wealth, our talent, our strength, our
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  Speaker 2: creativity and our ideas and up lift ourselves the way
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  Speaker 2: other immigrants who have come here before have been able
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  Speaker 2: to do. And it's naive of us think that eventually
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  Speaker 2: we won't be on the hit lists, end up under
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  Speaker 2: attack and maybe pursued too, as fear has created an
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  Speaker 2: atmosphere where anybody who has the other is being stalked.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that we have to think about building
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  Speaker 2: our communities, building our grocery stores, building our directeers, building
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  Speaker 2: our restaurants, doing things that are entrepreneurial that strengthen from within,
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  Speaker 2: not to the exclusion of other people, but to the
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  Speaker 2: inclusion of getting into the market and understanding the marketplace
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  Speaker 2: and doing it from a spiritual place. Say a spiritual place.
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  Speaker 2: A do mean biblical, but I also mean a spiritual
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  Speaker 2: place meaning I think you can only reproduce what you are.
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  Speaker 2: You can teach what you know, but you can only
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  Speaker 2: reproduce what you are. You can teach Mandarin, but that
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make you Chinese. Okay, So you can teach a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things, but you reproduce what you are. And
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  Speaker 2: you are the most productive and the most fruitful when
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  Speaker 2: you bore down inside of yourself and see what phraser
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  Speaker 2: lies within you and bring that to fruition. You cannot
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  Speaker 2: bring grapes out of tomato seeds. So understanding what you
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  Speaker 2: have been given, being comfortable with being authentic, and being
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  Speaker 2: able to turn it into something that is fruitful and
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  Speaker 2: productive is what we're going to have to do in
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  Speaker 2: the time and in the sea.
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  Speaker 1: You know, as you're talking, and every time I listened
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  Speaker 1: to you, every time I listened to Ambassador Andrew Young,
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  Speaker 1: who I talked to you earlier, today I learned something
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  Speaker 1: I can't say that about miss. Most of my conversations
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  Speaker 1: I learned something. I just learned something from you that moment.
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  Speaker 1: I've actually, in that moment understood what you meant by
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  Speaker 1: make boring sexy or actually you didn't say that, you
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  Speaker 1: said we need to make we need to be boring again,
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  Speaker 1: or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember you you phrased boring and you wanted
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  Speaker 1: boring to be and I didn't really get it till now.
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  Speaker 1: What I heard you say was in my interpretation. There
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  Speaker 1: were long periods of time where you can fake it
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  Speaker 1: until you made it. That's a whole phrase people, you
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  Speaker 1: fake it till you make it. This is not one
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  Speaker 1: of those times that that that you can't be going on,
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  Speaker 1: you know, saying I'm gonna do be a certain because
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  Speaker 1: your saw some mighty do surgery on YouTube. You cannot
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  Speaker 1: be a financial influencer when you're not a financial success
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  Speaker 1: story yourself. The times that you complicated, this is no
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  Speaker 1: time to be playing around. You got to be real
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  Speaker 1: about whatever use you're doing. You can't be out here
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  Speaker 1: thinking it about AI. AI don't care. You can't be
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  Speaker 1: you can't be thinking it about whatever it is you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: The world is literally changing underneath you, and it don't
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  Speaker 1: care what your Instagram says or your LinkedIn says or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: Are you real or are you not? And if you aren't,
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  Speaker 1: this moment might tell you the thunder because this moment
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  Speaker 1: is is made of historic once in a century at
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  Speaker 1: least change. Did I get that partially right? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. In addition to what you said, I think we
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  Speaker 2: have to consider the fact that in Hollywood they say
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  Speaker 2: that we come out more rapidly if it's a comedy show.
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  Speaker 2: If it's comedy, you sell tickets better. If it's hip
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  Speaker 2: hop or music, we come out better. People bless people. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 2: if if you want to clickbait, let it be salacious. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But and all of that's exciting in church, that's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: But when it comes to being informative where you have
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  Speaker 2: to learn and take notes and write down things and
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  Speaker 2: learn something, we shy away from it. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: I say boring has got to come back to a
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  Speaker 2: place of being attractive. It's got to be something where
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  Speaker 2: we're willing to quit joking and high fiving and playing
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  Speaker 2: around and making memes and playing games and being silatious.
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  Speaker 2: While we're being salatious, districts are being taken over the
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  Speaker 2: country's being taken over, the political taken over, voting rights
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  Speaker 2: is being taken over, and we're running around seeing you
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  Speaker 2: know how salacious and indifferent or humorous we can be.
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  Speaker 2: And this is not a laughing time. This is a serious,
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  Speaker 2: serious time that we really have to apply ourselves in
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  Speaker 2: order to be appropriate. And I'm not sure that, like
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  Speaker 2: the Native Americans, instead of being given liquor and getting
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  Speaker 2: drunk on liquor, I'm not sure that we haven't gotten
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  Speaker 2: drunk on foolishness. And while we are getting drunk on foolishness,
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  Speaker 2: there are other people who are buying up property, building communities,
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  Speaker 2: doing things to change the world, starting banks, setting up CDFIs,
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  Speaker 2: doing things that really make a difference, setting up lopsllcs
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  Speaker 2: as corporations, see corporations doing things that really really matter.
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  Speaker 2: And when we start talking about those things that really matter,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times those terminologies go right over top
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  Speaker 2: of our head. But we've got our own language, and
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  Speaker 2: we've got our own colloquialisms. But our colloquialisms don't pay
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  Speaker 2: anything in the marketplace. We have to learn the language
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  Speaker 2: of the successful if we're going to have a seat
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  Speaker 2: at the table. What good is a seat at the table.
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  Speaker 2: If you can't converse at once, you're sitting at the table.
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  Speaker 2: And so that's going to mean that we're going to
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  Speaker 2: have to stop scrolling so much and start reading a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more. That's going to mean that we're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to listen at podcasts like this. That's going
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  Speaker 2: to mean that we have to read books, listen at books,
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  Speaker 2: audio books, infusing ourselves with information and finding other people
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  Speaker 2: who can communicate with you, because when you find friends
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  Speaker 2: who are thinking on your level, you become a lot
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  Speaker 2: more productive than you have to dumb down to keep
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  Speaker 2: your old friends and maintain your old station. To prove
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  Speaker 2: that you don't lose your black card, you have to
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  Speaker 2: be able to go through the metamorphosis of rejection, find
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  Speaker 2: who you really are now and who you need to
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  Speaker 2: be in this season of your life. This is a
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  Speaker 2: new season of your life, and this is not a
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  Speaker 2: new idea. That's what Black Wall Street was made out of.
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  Speaker 2: Your own cleaners, your own hotels, your own restaurants, your
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  Speaker 2: own this, that or the other. Making a way for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: That's what the Chinatown and all kinds of places all
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  Speaker 2: over the world. Mexican grocery stores. All people that make
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  Speaker 2: it in this country do it because they learn how
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  Speaker 2: to get together. We, rather than fusing together, seem to
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  Speaker 2: love to obliterate each other, rather than to make the
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  Speaker 2: connections that are necessary to be progressive economically and intellectually.
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  Speaker 2: You say earlier about being at the table, I've often said, Bishop,
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  Speaker 2: if you're not at the table, you're on the menu. Right,
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  Speaker 2: You're right, And we are playing around at the table.
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  Speaker 2: We're messing around at the table. We're playing uh uh,
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  Speaker 2: they're playing chess, we're playing checkers. And this is no
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  Speaker 2: time to be messed around.
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  Speaker 1: To your point, Now, let me say something that you're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna say, but I think it's important. I was
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  Speaker 1: recently at your Good Soil event where you once again
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: had uh you know, the charity that allowed me to speak,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: and you opened it up with none other than Oprah Winfrey.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Now I want this to sink into the audience. Okay,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: who can get Oprah Winfrey? I know her, she's giving
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: me an award. I'm honored by it. I can email her,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: but that's I'm not gonna say. That's my girl, Like
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you don't roll up on Oprah Winfrey.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: She told me.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty years ago. If I want to read something,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: I don't refer anybody to me. I want to read somebody,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: I'll find them. Don't be give me my number. Right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: I love that standard. I love the Oprah Winfrey standard.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: And she doesn't put her arm Please now listen to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the audience. She doesn't put her arm around anybody who
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: doesn't have as much reputation to reputationally to lose as
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: she does. And I'm adopted in my own life. Bishop
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: tdj's had her on his stage in the last two weeks.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: He had Denzel Washington for a deep conversation. Before that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: these conversations with the Denzel Washington conversation went everywhere globally.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: This one, when he finally is released publicly, I believe,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: will go everywhere.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Why am I saying this?
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: People have no idea who this man is and what
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: he the influence he has, the deals that he's able
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: to pull the other for us. The thing that he
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: did with Wells Fargo, which we're going to talk about,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: is unprecedented for a black man. Or And look, I
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: deal with banking. I know these folks, I partner with
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: these folks. I'm not putting off two hundred million dollar
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: deals with the likes of Wells Fargo.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: It has to be worth as much as a billion Ashley.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: People naively think that the money went in his pocket,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: by the way, which is also crazy to me.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: If it's massive financial literacy.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Uh, these are opportunities for him to develop properties for people,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. It's just opportunities for this opportunity
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: for opportunities what it is. But people will just have
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: misnumbers about money. None of this is my point. Here's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: my point. Oprah gets on stage at Good Soil and
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: says that recently she had to call YouTube. She never
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: does this because somebody has saw her. I'm gonna repeating
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: this because she said it. I'm not gonna say it's
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: blunt as she said it in a inappropriate state with
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: a person current being investigated. And she's like, it's not me,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it's ai. I didn't of course it's not me. She
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: called to him to take it down. They said, you know, whatever,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: freedom speech or whatever.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: No. Now bishop goes to a party with four staff people.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And to somebody who's a member of his church, and
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have all this noise going on, which.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Is again the FBI. Don't play.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: If you're on the FBI's list and I know something
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: about it, I've got FBI clearance for security clearance for
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: being an advisor to the president several times over. If
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you're on that list, they got your phone, they got
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: your email, they got your records. Ain't no, Oh, I
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: saw somebody on the FBI list.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Oh FBI is it? No? No, no, no, no no.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: You know the FBI's on you when they come and
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: knock on your door and the minute that something goes
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: down because they need to lock down all these your
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: whole world is you're locked out of your whole world.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: The most important than they have your phone. They ain't
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: talk to this man one time in two years, not
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: one time because and he's a spiritual advisor supposedly.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I think there are people who say that to give
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: themselves cover of his credibility.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: By the way, but suppose he's a spiritual advisor, come on,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: knock it off, right, So but this is all this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: stuff goes viral. So they went viral on Oprah and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: went viral on him. People trying to get clickbait, playing around,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: trying to get click so they can get paid so
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: they can become relevant. And what he's saying and I'm
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: saying is knock that off. There's no time for all
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And it's interesting how black people often increasingly
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: attacking black people.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I said it right.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You got a whole bunch of black celebrities, about ten
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: of them that have been attacked.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: By other black celebrities. We got enough problems. And might
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: I jump in and say this. When that first broke out,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: it was forty four thousand bops that were released. Me
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: and for people who read swoops, who does the investigation
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: for NBC and other news outlets, discovered that ninety eight
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: percent of them were all artificial intelligence generated. The other
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: thing that that it really proved to me, to Oprah,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: to Denzel, to all the people, it's everybody's I mean anybody.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: It goes along with the turf is that we have
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: got to stop getting our information on TikTok. You know
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: that that's a good place to start. There. By the way,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: there is an MBI website. You can just go there. Yeah, yeah,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely, And you know that that's kind of water
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: under the bridge. If there were anything there that FBI
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: would have been in it everybody. I just want to No,
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: there's no hiding. It's like when I had my health scare.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Within seconds, it was all over the world. You wouldn't
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: have to find it on Instagram, you wouldn't have to
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: find it on YouTube. You you would find it in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the six o'clock news. You would find it everywhere. Uh
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: much to my surprise. Actually, when I had my healthcare,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: how far it because the world that was, that was
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: the world reminding you what was really important. Yes, that
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: actually you're appreciated in love by people that really matter.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: By the way, interesting when we had that conversation, when
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: you had a conversation with Oprah. One, I make the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: point because if they're gonna attack Oprah, they'll attack. I
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: mean that the frequency so low you're gonna go after Oprah,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: you go up to anybody. So number one and two,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: she didn't. She didn't.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: She wasn't aware that you had been attacked because she
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: don't watch low frequency stuff like me was. She was
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: completely stunned that you had had any experience with that
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: because she don't. You don't mess around with that stuff.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: She's at a higher frequency. So, which which really goes
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to our point. If you ingest poison. Don't be shocked
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: when you die now you know. It takes all I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: can do at my age to try to stay current
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: with what's going on, because AI is moving so fast
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: that it is very difficult to tell misinformation disinformation from
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: real information. You have to be quite shrewd and sometimes
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: professional to be able to do that. And yet we
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: have to keep up with not only being able to
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: detect the truth from the falsehood, also to keep up
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: with the quick and sudden changes that AI is making.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: That it is changing the frontier of employment.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: That's causing a lot of people to lose their jobs
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: and causing a lot of prepared people to find their
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: jobs and to move into realms where we can really
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: get something done. I don't want to waste time talking
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: about that. I really want to talk about what we
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: came to be. We came to build communities. We came
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: to do through our relationships with Wells, Fargo and others.
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: We want to build communities. We gave away ten million
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: dollars last year to HBCUs and various institutions that were
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: doing something positive in the community. At the event that
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: you were at, we gave away five hundred thousand dollars
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: for a fast pitch competition to help people to go
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: into business. We gave one hundred thousand dollars to HBCU
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: recently in Atlanta. We're about the work. I don't want
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: to be distracted by the noise.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but old bishop, Yeah, hold on, I'm probably one
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: of the pe people. Hes gonna let me go. Let
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: let do this for him because he doesn't want to
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: be defended at all. But I need to make something
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: that wasn't my point. Here's my point. Ambassador Andrew Young
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: was attacked by the US Senate who accused him of
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: crazy things. He was attacked by people. You know, he
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: had to resign as a UN ambassador. No one remembers
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: that doctor King was attacked by his so called friends.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I mean he died chain smoking, overweight and depressed. He
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: thought he'd failed. Malcolm X was attacked. Like whoever you
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: admire in the world history, if they're doing something, they've
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: been attacked by the way I've been attacked, all right.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: So my point was he just got his stripes for you. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: he's taking his hits for you, doing this for you,
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And I want you to appreciate that no success comes easy,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: No leadership is without pain or suffering. And I want
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: to thank you Bishop, Chairman T. D. Jakes for all
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you do for the countless people who you do not know,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and you do it anyway. I like what you're doing
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: much better when other people are not doing. And also
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: thank you Oprah Win for you a bad sister. And
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: I hope you're watching this.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, So having said that, and that is true,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: the most painful part of going through anything is what
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: it takes your children, through your grandchildren, through your spouse through.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: At that particular time, my wife had had a knee
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: replacement and could hardly get to the bathroom. They were
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: saying she had moved to Canada and left me. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: surviving all of that is difficult and painful, but it
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: goes with the territory. You cannot become distracted by the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: naysayers and lose sight of the vision and the purpose
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: of what you're trying to build. And as hard as
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: it is to do that, it's important that you understand
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: that you keep the main thing the main thing. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: And when necessary, you have to take legal action. When necessary,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: you have to ignore it, and you have to decide
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: cautiously which one is the best thing to do. What
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: I chose to focus on is building communities and the
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: time of my pastor it. In the years that I've
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: been pastoring the Potter's House, we have acquess a thousand
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: acres of land. We've built three hundred homes. We're set
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to build three thousand more homes over the next two years.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: A mixed income housing developments for people, closing food deserts
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: in various communities, not just in Dallas, but in other places.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: We're looking at doing things that are productive. I don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: have time at sixty eight to spend the rest of
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: my years arguing on the back of a school bus
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of kids and throwing books at each other.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: There's something about getting older that makes you get wiser,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: and you become less concerned about image and more earned
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: about impact. And I think today we are so sensitive
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: about image that we don't focus on impact and we
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: get distracted and disrupted. People who are the most productive
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: are single eyed. They're focused on what they're trying to do.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And what I'm hoping your listeners will walk away from
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: is understanding there's a problem. We've got a little over
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: forty percent of African Americans own their own home compared
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to seventy five percent of their white counterparts. Their problem
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: with that, if we can get those numbers up ten percent,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: it will have a three hundred billion dollar impact on
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the national GMP. If we can get our numbers up
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: just a little bit, just ten percent, just ten percent
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: will change. So this is not just about black people.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: This is about America because regardless of what we think
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: Black history is American history, what happens to one of
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: us happens to all of us. If one of us
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: gets COVID, we all get COVID. Doesn't matter whether it
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: comes from Asia or whether it comes from Antarctica. It's
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: going to spread everywhere that air doesn't go by zip codes.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Disease pays no attention to addresses, and so we have
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: to be vigilant and understanding that we are our brother's keeper,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: and our brothers don't always look like us. But the
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: ramifications of ignoring any group of people long enough is
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: going to lead to the detriment of all people. And
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: until we see ourselves as one people and understand that
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: we are one species, then our species will be endangered.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: And my concern is I'm afraid that we're going to
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: make something create something like artificial intelligence that ends up
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: being smarter than its creator and its predecessor if we
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: don't keep up with what's going on right now and
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: use it as a tool and make sure that our
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: lass stay up today so that we can use it
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: as a tool for building rather than a tool for
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: demolishing society and leading to our downfall. It's not hard
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: to become extinct. Who It's not hard to become Talk
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: to me. It's not hard to become extinct. Until you unify,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: you are apt to become extinct. And one of our
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: problems in this country is not coming from other people,
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: is coming from internally because we don't jail together like
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: we should. Having said that, I do want to say
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: that some of the because we did the investigation, some
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: of the things that passes for black on black sabotage
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: and misinformation, does it even come from inside our country.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: It is outside distracting us, happening intensely during elections, so
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: that we're so busy looking at other things that we're
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: not really in tune to the fact that we need
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: to be doing the things that we need to be
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: doing to make our society better. And we need to
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: be teaching our children about STEM programs. We need to
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: be teaching them how to code and how to progress.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And so that's what I'm doing. When you don't see
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: me on the stage, and you see me on the
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: stage less and less after almost fifty years of preaching,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I want to see the word made flesh through the
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: things I do. You know, I'd rather see a message
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: than hear a message any time. And a lot of
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: people don't know this, but I'm going to share this
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: for the benefit of your audience. Tdj's Enterprise, which is
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: my for profit company, is older than the Potter's House. Wow.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Really they think that I passed at the Potter's House
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: and now I'm going into business. I never left business.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I was doing business when I came. I was doing
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: movies when I came. Mother was a landlord. Right, yeah,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it for years. It is way older than
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: the Potter's House, and so one hand washes the other.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: I think that business people need more spirituality. I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: spiritual people need better business skills. So I don't think
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: that they're mutually exclusive one to the other. Not every
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: pastor has to go down that road. Not every leader
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: has to go down that road, but you give people
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: what you are. Again, you can teach what you know,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: but you can only reproduce what you are.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Amen, which is why you made this beautiful transition from
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: ministry to the marketplace. Or you're making this transition, talk
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to us about first of all, I ls, why did
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you do ils? And now I want to go to
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: good sewing.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: The leadership thing is there are transferable truths. People think
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: if you reach the gospel, you don't have to get
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: a mortgage. You preach the gospel, you might not need
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: human resources. They think if you go down to the
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: bank and speaking dons, you can buy the property. That's
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: not true. You have to have a certain business acumen today.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: In the Bible days, they didn't have to do that.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: They went from house to house breaking bread. Now you
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: need a specific place to worship, so you have to
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: do business. We are in the world, though we're not
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: of the world. We have to be able to function
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: in this present world. And so that's true. What when
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: you talk about me going into business, it's not so
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: much said I went into business, It's just that you're
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: the alost. Way people knew me was what they saw
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: on TV and the only thing they saw on TV
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: was me preaching. But it's like Shack. You know, you
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: saw him play basketball, but all the while he was
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: back up property doing business, owning companies. And then it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: goes surprised. People who make assumptions about you based on
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: how they met you, and they define you by how
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: they see you, and they incarcerate you by how they
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: label you. And I say this not my defense but
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: for the benefit of those that are listening to me today.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: Just because you're an accountant doesn't mean that you can't
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: be a restaurant tour Just because you own a restaurant
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that you couldn own condos. Don't let people
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: incarceerate you by their description of you and then isolate
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you from all the other gifts that lie inside of you.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: There are lots of gifts that line inside of all
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: of us. I'm not an anomaly. I'm not unique. You're
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: seeing it around us all the time, that people have
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: multiple interests, they explore multiple interests, People like yourself do
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: multiple things on multiple platforms in different ways. And we
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: have to stop labeling people and then beating them because
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: they don't stay in our label.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Oh talk to me again. I like what you're doing
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: much better with other people are not doing. Yeah, right right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: And one of the things you're doing another we didn't
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: mention you're about a launch a podcast network.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm excited about it. A little nervous,
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: little nervous every time I do something I've never done before.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I don't know. But yes, I have a deal with
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I heart as you do, and I have a.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Bigger than mine. Your deal is bigger than mine. You
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: got a whole network. Yeah, I got a whole network,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and piece by piece, I'm going to launch that network
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: starting this fall. Uh, and I'm going to start it
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: with my podcast is going to be called my next chapter.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I think everybody's trying to figure out what their next
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: chapter is. Uh.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Everything's being uprooted, jobs are being taken away. DEI has
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: moved out of the way. Things are changing. You're at
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: a different stage of life than you were you empty nesting.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: What is going to be your next chapter? And who
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: are you going to let write it? Are you going
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: to write it or are you going to let other
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: people write it for you and spend your life living
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: up to their expectations. Those are the things that I'm
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: going to bring people on. I brought Oprah own because
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: I think she's interesting. I think she started making mud
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: pies in Mississippi and ended up with a network in Chicago,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: not Hollywood, in Chicago, landed a deal that was unprecedented,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: never been landed before or ever will be again, where
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: she owned her own show in a way that was
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: unpresident then did a network owned the network, cashed out
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: her shares in her network. And it was a business
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: symposium and wasn't the church service. It was a business
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: symposium for entrepreneurs to help us to grow and scale.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: The dum and I don't want to take up too
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: much of the year time, but the dollar. I love this.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: The dollar in our community stays about six hours. In
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: the Asian community, it stays about thirty four days. What
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: does that mean? That means that if I get a
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: dollar and I live in our zip code, in order
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to get the dry cleaners done, in order to get
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: my hair done, in order to get a weave in,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: in order to do whatever, I have to give capital
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: to somebody outside of my neighborhood within six hours. Whereas
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: other people group start companies and businesses that they are
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: passing the money around and it's circulating in their community
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: several times thirty four days in the Asian community before
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: it breaks out. Six hours is all we got. That
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: means we don't own anything in our own community. We're
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: not teaching people to be entrepreneurs, to be business people.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: And everybody's not an entrepreneur. But you either are one
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: or you work for one. And it doesn't mean that
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: you're going to start Microsoft. It may mean that you
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: just run a cleaners, a drag cleaners. It may mean
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: that you just run a grocery store. But the point
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: is we are not taught to think about ownership. We
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: are only taught to think about stewardship, and we are
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: stewarding what other people own. So we will manage the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: shoe store, but somebody else owns the shoe store. They
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: will sell us shoes that they would never wear and
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: put a manager in that looks like us and own
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: it and take the capitol. And eventually we will get
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: angry at the people for buying what we could about.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: The building was for sale, We could about it, we
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: could open up the business. But we don't think like that.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: We don't talk like that. So when you start talking
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: about leadership. It's not just for pastors, it's not just
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: for CEU, It's for everybody. When you start talking about
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: entrepreneurship like good Soil, and I invite everybody to download
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the Good Soil not only to attend the Good Soil Form,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: but to download the Good Soil app where there is
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: a community of over forty now fifty thousand people in
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: their communicating with each other, across pollinating, getting ideas from
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: each other, and spawning an ability to keep that dollar
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: from leaving our community so quickly.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: So all this begins to make sense. ILS, Yes, is
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: international leadership, some emposium thought leadership at an international level.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Then Good Soil is literally putting people back into good soil,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: so they go from the streets to the suites, from
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: PhD to PhD. You're trying to give them the tools
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: in a practical way to operationalize the leadership you just
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: inspired them at La l ILS with your daughter is
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: trying to inspire women which are of the GDP to
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: become to take their agency.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying what I'm seeing.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Potter's House continues to ground itself as a spiritual
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: beacon and a lighthouse for the world. Out of Dallas.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: So it's not one or the other, it's both. And
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you've got development deals and communications deals. I mean, you've
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: got a little conglomerate going on here of thought and action.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: How many employees do you have at just at Potter's house.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: You're a major employer. Payroll every two weeks. Yeah, I know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: strust me, I know, I really know.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Now taking that on, that's a success on of itself,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: with benefits, with four one K plans, with a human
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: resources department.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I built it that way because I saw it that way.
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Say it again. You have to build it the way
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: you see it. And and and that's that's what a
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: vision is. Uh. Success isn't a dollar amount. It's not
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: a certain size building, Uh, not a certain sized company.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Success is what when you envision something in your head
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: and you see it manifests in front of your face.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: So so if you can, if you build what you see,
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: you can live in what you dream. Okay. So so
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: so it starts in the man as a man thinking,
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: so is he And that's why we've got to expose
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: our children at early ages with people who are thinking
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: things that make it possible for them to believe that
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: it's possible to be something more. And let me say
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: something else, because we've talked a lot in racial terms.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I'm for all of humanity. Amen. There is no one
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: group of people in our society that can keep our
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: species alive without the other. This thing of purging, if
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: you get a slice of the pie, I don't get
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: a slice of the pie. No, let's grow the pie.
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: That's right, let's grow the pie out. It's for the
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: betterment of everybody. You can't have all Asian people, there's
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: not enough of them. You can't have all Caucasian people,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: there's not enough of them. You can't have all African people,
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: there's not enough of them. You can't have all African Americans.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: But together, if we would, let all of us rise together.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: When one boat rises, all ships rise. And so this
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: isn't This notion that we have today that if one
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: group goes up, that's the reason we're down is a
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: very very foolish idea. It's a very foolish idea. It
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: is not good for us to be alone. You don't
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: want to get there by yourself. There's not enough of
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: any one group of people to run this planet. We
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: need all of us in battle in warfare and in success,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: in creation and industry and productivity and artificial intelligence. We
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: need all of us. We need all of us, and
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: we need to find a way to work together or
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: we're going to become extinct, as all of those species
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: before us that are no longer roaming around in the
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: earth are proof positive that you can lose your way
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: and become extinct and become bones in a museum. Ooh,
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: that's why I'm talking about. Uh.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: And you don't want to rearrange the dick chairs of
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the Titanic. The ship is thinking and we're picking drapes, right.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: So you are a lifetime learner. That's what I know
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: about you. Now I'm spit now to Chairman Jakes. I've
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: been dealing with Bishop TV Jakes. You're a lifetime learning.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: He just said you're going to go to a Google class.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: You said that, You just said it in passing. Uh.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: There was another smart friend of mine told me yesterday
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: they're going to an AI. They're a member of the
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: AI Ethics Council. Actually, I do with Sam Altman, the
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: president going to president for Morehouse College, doctor David Thomas,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: as he's retiring this year, he's going to take an
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: AI class online. He wants to learn you are a
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: lifetime learner. Chairman Jakes, how has your definition of leadership
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: evolved over time, especially as you're moving to new spaces
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: and places. Do you have some fundamental truths that you
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: can share for leaders coming behind you that are trying
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: to maneuver in these times?
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm reading three books at the
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: same time at the same time, I am very, very
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: fascinated with things that confuse me. I like to be
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: in rooms where I feel like a fool because that
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: means that there's space for me to grow and develop
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: and evolve a lot to list terms and languages so
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: that I can become fluent. It's like being in another country.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: You learn the language so you can order off the menu.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: When you're in the banking you have to learn the
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: language so you can order off the menu. If you're
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: dealing with architects, you have to learn the language so
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: you can order off the menu. And a lot of
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: us don't learn any language beyond our zip code. And
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: as long as we only learn the language of our
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: zip code, we can only live in one address. WHOA
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: So learning to be a lifetime learner is to expand
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: your borders, to limpen your stakes, to be broader in
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: your thinking. Don't be afraid to ask somebody what does
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: that mean? Wait a minute, slow that down. What are
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: you saying there? What do you mean by that? We're
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: so busy trying to look the part that we lose
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: sight of being the part. And so we will have
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: on the right outfit, But in here we're an empty
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: and void of the conversation to be able to get
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: in there and do business on the level we need
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: to sow. America is consuming, not manufacturing. African Americans, we consume,
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: we don't manufacture. We consume technology. Homeless people have Apple phones.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Everybody's got a phone. We consume it, but we don't
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: make it. Until we start making what we're consuming or
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: investing in what we are using, we're going to find
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: ourselves always on the deficit. We're on somebody's bottom line
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: as a profit margin. You've got to be profit because
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: you can't be a manufacturer if you're just a consumer.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And we tend to consume perishable goods, goods that lose
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: their value as they go along and depreciate rather than appreciate.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: So we drive cars off the lot that drop fifty
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: percent when we drive them off the lot. We're good
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: with that. I'm fine with that if you've got everything
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: else in order. But we need to think in terms
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: of appreciating assets, valuing appreciating assets. What can we make
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: The first thing God said the man was be fruitful.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: He didn't say it, be fruitful. Produce, produce, produce, produce,
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: And if you are a producer, you will always have
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: a job. Yes, so as we go, Man, this could
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: go on forever, but I don't want you to. I
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: know you're busy and you have limited time. So in
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: a few minutes we've got left, I'm gonna let you loose,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: literally to.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: Give your vision for all of us and where we
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: go from here and what things you want people to
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: focus on. I'm sorry, all you're doing, and what you
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: want to people to know you're about going forward, and
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: what you want them to be about. I want you
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: to give. I never do this on this podcast, but
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I want you to give the last word and the
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: vision of where do we go from here? Doctor King's
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: last book, Where do we go from here? Before we
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: get there, though, I want to ground a little bit
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: more into this moment and how prepared. I think you
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: are for this moment because you've constantly stayed a child.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: You've constantly stayed nosy, You've constantly stayed curious. You've constantly
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: recognized you have two ears in one mouth, so you
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: listen twice as much as you talk. You constantly stayed
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: most important, authentic and having humility. People would be amazed
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: how powerful you are, yet how much humility in private
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: you articulate. When I met Bishop TD Jakes was years
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and years ago, and I didn't think he remembered me.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: That's my fault, by the way. I just assumed you
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: didn't because he meets so many people. My wife wanted
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: to meet you. Otherwise I would never approach you. I
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: was in Africa and she was with It was me
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and her and Bastard Andrew Young and I believe it
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: was the same trip we got engaged. But that's a
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: separate issue and it's not important to this point. But
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: she wanted to meet She heard you were speaking at
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: a conference next to where we were. I just need
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: to meet this man. He is a hero to me. Okay,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I know him just well enough to introduce you. So
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: we walked over where you were signing books, and I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: used the fact that I had some reputation at that
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: point and maybe remember me. I said, I'm a founder
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: of operation. When you looked up from signing book said yeah, no,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: of course I know you are, and you're very gracious.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Probably lied to me, but it was very nice. It
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: was very very nice for you to say, of course
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I know you are, and you maybe look good to
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: my then fiance. Here's Shatra and you guys meant to
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the picture. Had to go find that picture. About three
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: four years later, we're in California, in northern California at
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a picnic behind in the backyard of some billionaire's house,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: Felicia Horowitz.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: Give her a credit.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: She had invited me to a barbecue a barbecue, and
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't go one time and didn't and I wanted
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: to respect her her invitation. The next time, I appreciate
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: her and her husban it. So I show up to
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the barbecue with Sha Trump and there you go. The
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: two things happened that day. My man, who's now a
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: governor for Maryland, asked me should he go into politico
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Wes Moore, my brother, and I told him no. I
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: told him to go into business and Luckily he ignored
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: me and I walk over and there's my man, my hero.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: Are you know one of my heroes, Bishop td Jakes.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: And you had on this beautiful gene outfit. You're very
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: appropriate for the backyard vibe. And I shook your hand
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: and you asked me to sit down and we talked
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: for a minute. Your wife was there, who looks like
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: a teenager, and you took my number and I was, oh,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: my god, d d J's w what's my phone number?
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: And one day I'm sitting up late at night with
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Sha Trump and the phone rings. You did text me first,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I think you said, I think you said, hey, continue
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: talk and so I said sure, and I'm honored to
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: get this phone call. And you start peppering me with questions.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. You start peppering
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: me with questions about real estate. You want to know
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: everything there was to know about this deal I had
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: done on Promise Homes Company in real estate.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: I was so impressed.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Here is the great iconic global td Jakes, and he's
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: curious like a little.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Child's no no.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: And you become brilliant now at the thing you were
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: curious about, and now you have done a two hundred
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: million dollar deal and more to come, and got plots
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: of land in multiple cities.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: Try and provide housing and resources for our people.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Tell this audience what your magic sauce is, Where you
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: are now, where you're going that's important to you for
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: them to know and what they should do.
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: First of all, let me begin by saying that I
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: can take you to places in the Illinois where you
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: can go across the street into one zip code and
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: the average lifespan is three to five years longer than
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: people who live on the other side of the street.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: The other side of the street, the zip code makes
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: the difference to the longevity of life. The quality of
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: life begins with where we live. Yes, and so building
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: homes not only is an aggregation of wealth and an
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: opportunity to accrue value as that wealth grows, but it
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: also is an opportunity for you to have better services healthcare.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Getting away from neighborhoods that are full of payday loans
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: and liquor stores and things that are just dragged greasy
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: foods stores, and putting us in healthier environments extends the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: quality of our life. So our focus is mixed income
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: neighborhoods or that's what we want to do. We want
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: to close food deserts where people have to drive out
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: of their neighborhood just to get food, have to drive
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: out of their neighborhood just to get gas, have to
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: drive out of their neighborhood. When they have a healthcare
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: I can't go to an urgent care or a health
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: facility in their own neighborhood. No senior citizens complexes. We
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: got the largest group of boomers that are in that
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: age group of boomers in the history of America, and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: we don't have enough places for them to stay. Can't
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: keep Grandpa on the front porch anymore because nobody's home
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: to watching, and so we have to start thinking in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: terms of strategy. We've got single mothers who need a
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: place to leave their children that doesn't cost them as
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: much as the rent that they stay in. We need
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: affordable housing, this affordable but still attractive luxury at an
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: affordable price. Those things are things that I want to
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: leave behind. It's not about self ingrandizement. It's not about
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: making a name for myself. I have more name than
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I want, and I have less years than I have capital,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: and so at this point, it's about legacy. It's about
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: saying thank you to the people who bought the books,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: who went to the movies, who helped me to be
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: who I was, and to do to leave something behind
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: that's tangible, that's touchable, rather than just leaving words and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: tapes and messages. I want to leave something behind that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: raises up more of my kind, more kids, more engineers,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: more dreamers, more thinkers, more philosophers, more teachers, more John
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Hope Bryant's doctor kingsmore Andrew Young's. They have to be
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: an atmospheres where they're not getting shot, where they're not
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: being murdered, where they're not being killed. So those are
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: some of the things that we want to do and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: we want to give. Not everybody is going to come
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: out with a PhD. But some of them will be entrepreneurs.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Some of them will do manual labor. Some of them
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: will fix air conditioners, some of them. We've got to
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: find a way that we can service all the different
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: types of skill sets that exist in our communities. And
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: I want to be a part of building that kind
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: of community. With walking trails and bike trails. And I
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: think that we are suffering mentally because we are so lonely,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: so eating parks and open spaces where you can actually
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: know who your neighbors are and not be afread in
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: your own house. All of our properties are designed in
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: such a way that you can have a sense of community. Again,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: whether you're black, white, red, blue, gen X, gen Z,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: gen Q, gen Y, it doesn't matter what alphabet you had.
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  Speaker 2: That we begin to yes, I did that. We want
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  Speaker 2: to create that five generation space where where grandma's are
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  Speaker 2: coming from the grocery store and kids are riding bikes
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  Speaker 2: through and skateboards and create some of the things that
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  Speaker 2: our counterparts have. And if I only get that ten percent,
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  Speaker 2: I will have affected the gross national product of this
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  Speaker 2: country for four hundred billion dollars. I think it is
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  Speaker 2: four hundred billion dollars worth income just to hit ten percent.
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  Speaker 2: So those are some of the things that we're after.
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  Speaker 2: And we're mentoring each other, and we're teaching each other,
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  Speaker 2: and we're helping each other. Irregardless of the color of
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  Speaker 2: your skin and your age or IQ, there's something in
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  Speaker 2: there that will help you to evolve and become who
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be. I plan to be at Martha's Vineyard.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be talking about global economy. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be talking about why aren't we doing business with
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  Speaker 2: the Caribbean. So why are we not doing business with Africans?
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  Speaker 2: Why are we not doing business with the Canadians? Why
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  Speaker 2: are we not finding a way to integrate our products
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  Speaker 2: without trying to get on the shelves of stores that
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  Speaker 2: don't want us on there. Technology has provided us a
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  Speaker 2: way that you can run a store through a lattop.
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  Speaker 2: So we need to rethink how we do business for
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  Speaker 2: the twenty first century. I want to initiate the conversation.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not smart enough to have all the answers, but
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  Speaker 2: I got the platform, and I want to use the
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  Speaker 2: platform to put the smart people up there and take
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  Speaker 2: notes so that we can all learn together and teach
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  Speaker 2: our children and grandchildren that life does not end and
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  Speaker 2: begin with scrolling on your phone. Who you said a word?
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  Speaker 1: Man, you said a word. This has been a ministry
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  Speaker 1: of just a ministry of finance. Let me say this
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  Speaker 1: as we close a couple of things. People don't know
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  Speaker 1: about my man Bishop Chairman Tdjames. When he calls me,
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  Speaker 1: it's never about him, not one time, never about him.
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  Speaker 1: It's always a bout we and not me. One day
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  Speaker 1: he called me, pull me out of a meeting. John John, John,
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  Speaker 1: you see it. See what check your text, look at
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  Speaker 1: my text. It's a STEM program in Dallas for young strivers.
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  Speaker 1: And he was so excited that the media covered these
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  Speaker 1: young bright lights so they would have some attention, some acknowledgement.
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  Speaker 1: Not that they were murdered or shot on some street, cornered,
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  Speaker 1: or they were stole. That was normally gets suppressed. But
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  Speaker 1: they were trying to improve themselves from the neck up
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  Speaker 1: and they had the capacity to do it. That's what
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  Speaker 1: excites them, and that's what you just heard a version
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  Speaker 1: of that. I've said this to my wife. I've never
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  Speaker 1: said it publicly. I'm going to say this for the
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  Speaker 1: first time. Bishop doesn't know I'm going to say this.
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  Speaker 1: In the thirty three years since I found an Operation Hope,
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  Speaker 1: four point five billion dollars that we've deployed in the
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  Speaker 1: underserved community's largest financial literacy coaching organization in America, fifteen
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  Speaker 1: hundred offices, I've dealt with thousands and thousands and thousands
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  Speaker 1: of community leaders. I've only known one person that I've
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  Speaker 1: wrote I've written a check to another community based nonprofit
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  Speaker 1: that was Ebenezer Church here in Atlanta to create the
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  Speaker 1: Hope Inside Center there and the Daddy King Center that
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  Speaker 1: stayed stands today that has doesn't have my name on it,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't have operations name on it. But without us writing
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  Speaker 1: that check, they can have got the matching funds in
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  Speaker 1: the construction loan to get that building up, which is
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  Speaker 1: an monument to Daddy King, doctor King's father at Embudy's
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  Speaker 1: at church. Thank you Reverend Warnock for your Senator Warnock,
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  Speaker 1: reberend Wardnock, for your leadership there. The only other person
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  Speaker 1: black man that I know that's written a check to
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  Speaker 1: another minority organization that I'm aware of is Bishop TD Jacks.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote a check to me to Operation Hope. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't ask him. He wrote a check to Brown College,
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  Speaker 1: which is trying to get his credentials back, one hundred
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. I'm not sure another black person has ever
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  Speaker 1: written them a six figure check.
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  Speaker 2: He's written a check to HBCUs.
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  Speaker 1: He wrote a five hundred thousand dollars check at the
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  Speaker 1: Pitch Program Pitch competition for Good Soil, which just happened.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Reverend Michael Phillips a good job doing that,
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  Speaker 1: pulling that off. He wrote a check to Operation Hope
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  Speaker 1: for our services, which he know if he called me
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  Speaker 1: to be doing a favor, I would have and we
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  Speaker 1: had done it for free. But he thought, this is
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  Speaker 1: going to cost you money. You got staff, her bills
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  Speaker 1: to pay. Here, here's some compensation. This is what nobody knows.
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  Speaker 1: You need people like this around. Protect them, Protect them
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  Speaker 1: with every breath you've got. They aren't coming anymore. That
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  Speaker 1: now only is nobody coming to save you. There are
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  Speaker 1: any more, Bishop td Jakes, come in your way. Most
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  Speaker 1: people focus about me, me, me. I'm tired of talking
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  Speaker 1: about me. Now you talk about me. If you don't
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  Speaker 1: believe that's true, go watch social media, Go watch media
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  Speaker 1: and look at your leaders, so called leaders, and it's
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  Speaker 1: me me, I I did this, I did that that.
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  Speaker 1: They're all about themselves. This man is self less in
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  Speaker 1: his leadership. It's about the results, the impact in the outcomes.
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  Speaker 1: He just wants you better protect them with everything you've got,
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  Speaker 1: Bishop Chairman td Jakes, my friend, I love you very much.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for sparing this hour with us, inspiring a
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  Speaker 1: nation and arguably the world, on how they can be
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  Speaker 1: a lighthouse in the midst of darkness.
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  Speaker 2: It's a real pleasure. Thank you for having me. I
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  Speaker 2: hope we take this brotherhood thing seriously. I don't mean
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  Speaker 2: me and you. I know we take it seriously. But
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  Speaker 2: I hope from the Jewish community to the African American
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  Speaker 2: community to the Native American across the board that we
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  Speaker 2: really discover the fact that there's really one race, many ethnicities,
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  Speaker 2: one race, human race, and we protect that as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a pleasure. Thanks again, deep honor. Let's go
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  Speaker 2: change the world.
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  Speaker 1: This has been Money and Wealth on the Black Effect
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  Speaker 1: Network at iHeartRadio with John ho'brian season two. This is
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  Speaker 1: my own personal pulpit of empowerment and ministry of finance.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go change World'll tell all your friends to follow
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  Speaker 1: Bishop TDJS Chairman td Jakes, his associated organizations and entities,
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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