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  Speaker 1: We just can't stop talking about this. We know he
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  Speaker 1: wants to be traded.
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  Speaker 2: He has insisted that his list would not change, but
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  Speaker 2: need might arise for another team and maybe that seems
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  Speaker 2: pretty good and smell on the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: Things are always changing.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal here with a lot of rizzo. I am
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  Speaker 2: coming to you from a secret, undisclosed location in Port Charlotte.
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  Speaker 3: Florida, at Ray's camp.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of We have a lot to get to
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  Speaker 2: as always, Spring training is in full force.
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  Speaker 3: The ABS is going some places better than others. What's
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  Speaker 3: going on?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny too, Ken, because I always figure out
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  Speaker 1: that you know you're gonna be someplace. That's always like,
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  Speaker 1: where in the world is Carmen San Diego? Where in
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  Speaker 1: the world is Ken Rosenthal? Always great to be with you,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. I just read an article that you wrote
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  Speaker 1: in The Athletic about the Houston Astros. Of course, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so used to Ken, the Hastros being such a perennial power,
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  Speaker 1: But is the bulk of the fabric? Is too much
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  Speaker 1: of it gone for them to be able to do
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  Speaker 1: what we know that they've been capable of doing the
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  Speaker 1: last decade plus.
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  Speaker 2: Well, a lot of thanks and that's the point of
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  Speaker 2: what I wrote about today, or the question at least
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  Speaker 2: I raised. And in the past when they've lost players,
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  Speaker 2: it was Springer one year, Correa the next year, Cole
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  Speaker 2: that was one a year.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty much. There's some peripheral guys too, they come and go.
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  Speaker 2: This year it's three guys, three pivotal performers in their
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  Speaker 2: championship run, their great run of all the consecutive alcs's
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  Speaker 2: and the eighth straight playoff appearances. I'm talking, of course
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  Speaker 2: about Kyle Tucker, Alex Bregman, and Ryan Presley, and if
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  Speaker 2: you want to throw in Justin Verlander, who didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a great year last year, you could even include him.
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  Speaker 2: So they've done some things to supplement what they have,
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  Speaker 2: of course, and they brought in Isazac Parades. They've brought
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  Speaker 2: in as well. You know a number of other guys
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  Speaker 2: that they be Yeah, Christian Walker's being the main other
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  Speaker 2: one and they feel it's going to be okay, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot different and al Twuove is going to
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  Speaker 2: left field.
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  Speaker 3: That's different. So we'll see. And it's interesting. Christian Walker
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  Speaker 3: told me the reason.
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  Speaker 2: He was attracted to the Astros even after Tucker was
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  Speaker 2: traded to the Cubs.
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  Speaker 3: He signed a week after that happened.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Walker said, you know what, I just think the
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  Speaker 2: culture here, the winning here, the whole environment that they've
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  Speaker 2: created is something I wanted to be a part of.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's a different environment now.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's going to be a worse or lesser environment,
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  Speaker 2: but it's going to be different and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Going to be really interesting to see whether they can.
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  Speaker 2: Sustain their success now that they've lost these three pivotal
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  Speaker 2: pieces in Bregman, Tucker and Presley.
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  Speaker 1: Can I really appreciate Hosee al Tuove, who certainly did
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  Speaker 1: not have to make a move at a position because
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  Speaker 1: of his tenure, because of his leadership, because of his
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  Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. But he is willing to move
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  Speaker 1: from second base to left field. I kind of questioned
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  Speaker 1: this move for a variety of reasons. Do you see
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  Speaker 1: this making sense? Obviously you love the selflessness from Jose Altuve,
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  Speaker 1: but is it a smart move in term of a
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  Speaker 1: position change.
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  Speaker 2: He has rated really poorly at second base for several
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  Speaker 2: years now, and talking to him a couple of days
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  Speaker 2: ago and talking with Chandler Rome, our Astros beat writer,
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  Speaker 2: of course, hosts a podcast on our network. It's as
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  Speaker 2: if Altuve is liberated. He feels re energized by this position,
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  Speaker 2: changed kind of motivated by it. So I do like it,
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  Speaker 2: and so far he's done well, and he told me
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be better than people think, and I
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  Speaker 2: sort of believe him. I sort of trust jose L Tuve.
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  Speaker 2: So it's interesting. They originally said it was only going
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  Speaker 2: to happen if Gregman came back, and then Partis would
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  Speaker 2: have moved a second, but no, it was apparently in
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  Speaker 2: the plans all along. And maybe this will kind of
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  Speaker 2: give Altuve a new life as he's about to turn
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  Speaker 2: thirty five in his career. Maybe he just kind of
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  Speaker 2: energizes him a little bit. And from that perspective, I
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  Speaker 2: do like it, Alana, Actually I like it a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny too, because he told Julia Morales, who does
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  Speaker 1: a great job covering the Houston Astros, he's I'm officially
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  Speaker 1: an outfielder. He gave away his infield glove to a
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  Speaker 1: fan there at spring training and he said, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to prove a lot of people wrong. So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: how the jose Al Twova outfield experience goes before we
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  Speaker 1: move on to Nolan Ronado and perhaps showcasing his talents
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  Speaker 1: there in Florida. Can I wanted to go back just
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  Speaker 1: a moment about the culture that is the Houston Astros.
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  Speaker 1: You had mentioned that Christian Walker told you specifically that
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  Speaker 1: he believes in the culture of the Astros. Obviously they
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  Speaker 1: have a winning one. But when you have so many
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  Speaker 1: key pieces like the Carlos Coreas, the Kyle Tuckers, the
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Presley's, the Alex Bregman going away, is it almost
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  Speaker 1: as if a dynasty has ended in terms of if
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  Speaker 1: you look at perhaps let's make a comparison, if you will,
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  Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots. It's very difficult to do
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  Speaker 1: what the Patriots have done in the past without the
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  Speaker 1: services of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Is there a
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  Speaker 1: comparable here?
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  Speaker 2: That's a great question, and I'm not sure the answer.
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  Speaker 2: But in a baseball sense, the one thing that might
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  Speaker 2: hold the Astros back here, and I mentioned this in
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  Speaker 2: the article, is their farm system. It rates twenty ninth
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  Speaker 2: according to the Athletics Keith Law. It is not one
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  Speaker 2: of the better ones in the game obviously if you're
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  Speaker 2: ranking twenty ninth, And keep in mind they lost their
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  Speaker 2: first and second rounders in twenty twenty and twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: Those players, if they had drafted them, probably would be
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  Speaker 2: close to the majors or in the majors right now.
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  Speaker 2: And they've traded a number of prospects over the years
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  Speaker 2: for Verlander, for Kakuchi, and that has also depleted what
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  Speaker 2: they have now. They traded also for Cam Smith in
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  Speaker 2: the Kyle Tucker trade. He was the fourteenth pick in
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  Speaker 2: the draft by the Cubs last year, and they feel
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  Speaker 2: he might be the kind of next guy coming along,
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  Speaker 2: but he's a year or two away, probably at least,
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  Speaker 2: so that gap might be the thing that kind of
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  Speaker 2: keeps them from being the team that they would want
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  Speaker 2: to be in twenty twenty five and even in a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years beyond. But they do have that Patriots
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  Speaker 2: thing going and listen, every time they've lost a player,
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  Speaker 2: we've wondered, how are they going to do it? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And Joe Spata, in his spring training address to the
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  Speaker 2: team said, we lost Springer, Tucker stepped up, we lost Cole,
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  Speaker 2: We had Javier and or Katie and fromber they all
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  Speaker 2: stepped up, and every time this has happened, Carlos Herea,
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  Speaker 2: Jeremy Panya wins ALCS and World Series MVP. So maybe
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  Speaker 2: the creation of opportunity here will ultimately lead to the
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  Speaker 2: same kind of thing happening. Maybe there's a player we
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  Speaker 2: haven't even envisioned being a big part of what they
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  Speaker 2: do stepping forward this year. That's the interesting thing about
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  Speaker 2: the Astros. Can they in this particular circumstance, which is
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  Speaker 2: different multiple players now have left, multiple important players, that's
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  Speaker 2: going to be the question.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of that next man in mentality. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: before we get to break here. I wanted to bring
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  Speaker 1: this up too. Every day it seems like Ken Rosenthal
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  Speaker 1: were wondering is Nolan ar Renato going to be a
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  Speaker 1: Saint Louis Cardinal? And sometimes we look way too into
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  Speaker 1: things in spring training that we're making more of it
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  Speaker 1: than we should be. But Nolan Arnatto, a veteran player,
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  Speaker 1: a perennial All Star, Gold Glover, Platinum Glove winner, made
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  Speaker 1: the trek the Cardinals to play in the Yankee Game,
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  Speaker 1: which is three hours away. I mean this is a
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  Speaker 1: three hour trip to and Veterans Senior guys in this business, Ken,
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  Speaker 1: they don't do that necessarily. Are we making too much
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  Speaker 1: of it? Was he trying to showcase his skill set
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  Speaker 1: to the Yankees or just he just need to get
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  Speaker 1: some reps?
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  Speaker 2: He indicated we were making too much of it, and
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  Speaker 2: he said, Hey, I wanted to stay on schedule. It's
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  Speaker 2: only the third day of spring training. I didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to have two days off. I also wanted to see
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  Speaker 2: my friends DJ Lemayhew and Paul Goldshit. I get it all,
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  Speaker 2: And those are all valid explanations. At the same time,
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  Speaker 2: it is so rare when you see veterans make that
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  Speaker 2: kind of tripccomplished veterans like Arnato, and we all know
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  Speaker 2: he wants to be traded. He probably would love to
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  Speaker 2: be a Yankee who doesn't want to be a Yankee.
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  Speaker 3: Players generally want to play for them. So I understand
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  Speaker 3: his explanations.
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  Speaker 2: I thought they were pretty much valid, but I'm still
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  Speaker 2: not buying it completely.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to.
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  Speaker 3: Be on that trip to play at stein Brennerfield.
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  Speaker 2: Now, granted, he said, and you mean the point, why
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  Speaker 2: would i be showcasing myself so early in the spring
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  Speaker 2: when I'm not going to be myself?
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  Speaker 3: Really I'm just kind of getting into form, and he
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  Speaker 3: did go over three, but I don't know. It just
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  Speaker 3: seemed to me there was a little more to it
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  Speaker 3: than Nolan suggested.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny too, because it's not as if
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  Speaker 1: the Yankees don't have a scouting report on Nolan Arenado.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have to be in the building for them
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  Speaker 1: guys don't even want to play day games after night
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  Speaker 1: games in spring turning. So I find it comical. But
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  Speaker 1: that's okay. We'll see where Nolan Aronado is going to
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  Speaker 1: start the season or where he's going to be at
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  Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo, Ken Rosenthal here on Fair Territory With Ken Rosenthal,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk a bit about Kyle Finnegan. Looks like he's
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: going back to Washington, obviously, Ken, and you know some
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  Speaker 1: folks we're talking about the perhaps a mirror of a
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  Speaker 1: contender should have signed him in terms of perhaps the
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox, perhaps the Dbacks are probably a lot closer
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  Speaker 1: to the postseason than the Nats are. Is that a
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  Speaker 1: fair assessment or do you think that those two clubs
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  Speaker 1: are still going to be okay without Kyle Finnegan as
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  Speaker 1: their closer.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of those two clubs are unsettled at closer,
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  Speaker 2: but they feel like they have options. And with the
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  Speaker 2: Red Sox, it's Chapman, it's Liam Hendrix, it's Justin Slayton,
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  Speaker 2: And in the Diamondbacks case, it's Justin Martinez and it's
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  Speaker 2: a J.
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  Speaker 3: Puck.
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  Speaker 2: So they feel they have the bodies to sort through
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  Speaker 2: and go about this. Now, the question is why didn't
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  Speaker 2: Kyle Finnigan sign earlier?
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  Speaker 3: Why didn't he get more and all that?
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  Speaker 2: And he had the kind of year that statistically might
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  Speaker 2: have looked okay, but it wasn't as okay as perhaps
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  Speaker 2: the era indicated, and there were some underlying things that
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  Speaker 2: held teams back. So at this time of year, you're
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  Speaker 2: always wanting to look at your team and say, hmm,
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  Speaker 2: could we do a little bit better? And maybe with
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  Speaker 2: Kyle finning and those clubs could have. But I would
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  Speaker 2: imagine Kyle Finnigan wanted some assurance of closing.
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  Speaker 3: That's what he would want to do.
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  Speaker 2: Sign a one year deal, maybe have a better year
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  Speaker 2: and do better next year. And maybe the Red Sox
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  Speaker 2: and Diamondbacks were not willing to give that to him,
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  Speaker 2: or maybe they did not see him worth the value
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  Speaker 2: when they have options already in camp. Now.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes security is all you need. You want to go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and sign to know at least you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be employed for the next year. You figure out things
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  Speaker 1: after that as the season goes along. All right, get
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  Speaker 1: those questions in on an opportunity now for you to
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  Speaker 1: ask Ken Rosenthal here on grill and Ken. So let's
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  Speaker 1: get to that. How about some grill and Ken? Get ready?
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  Speaker 1: All right? Can I see that grill? So I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to ask you the first question here. It's a heavy hitter. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what is your favorite ballpark smell?
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good one. I would say the green grass,
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  Speaker 3: but I think people.
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  Speaker 2: Want to hear the aroma the food smell, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna go with I haven't been there in a while,
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  Speaker 2: but the garlic fries in San Francisco that's pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: And certainly popcorn, you see it right there? Popcorn is
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  Speaker 2: always a good, good choice, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So mine's not necessarily an Ola factory element. It's not
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  Speaker 1: so much the smell of a ballpark can but one
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  Speaker 1: thing I appreciate. As much as I hate getting up early,
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  Speaker 1: I'm more of a night game than a day game person,
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  Speaker 1: but there's something very special about getting to the park
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  Speaker 1: super early before the park wakes up, When the ground's
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: crew is out there raking the dirt, mowing the lawn,
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  Speaker 1: the sprinklers are on, the sun's coming up. That's something
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  Speaker 1: that's pretty special. I love to see the ballpark wake
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  Speaker 1: up for a day game, all right. Coming up here
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  Speaker 1: on Grill and Ken, we got a good question in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the Nolan Ronado trade deadline. So as we
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  Speaker 1: continue our Nolan Aronado conversations as far as that is concerned,
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  Speaker 1: we'll put the question up here momentarily. I tell you what, though,
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  Speaker 1: it's like it seems like we just can't stop talking
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  Speaker 1: about this. We know he wants to be traded.
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  Speaker 3: He's still on the Cardinals.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's just insane, all right. So Jules
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  Speaker 1: Hayes has this to ask you, Well, the market for
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  Speaker 1: Aronauto look any different at the deadline? Will he widen
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  Speaker 1: his pool of acceptable landing spots.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that's an interesting question. I don't know is the answer.
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  Speaker 2: And keep in mind, Nolan Arnado is just not signed
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  Speaker 2: for this year. It's two more years after that, So
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  Speaker 2: if he makes a choice on where to go, he's
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  Speaker 2: committing to two plus years. At this point, it's three seasons.
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  Speaker 2: He has insisted that his list would not change, but
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  Speaker 2: at the deadline a need might arise for another team,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe that team's pretty good and he's smelling the
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  Speaker 2: World Series. Things are always changing, and he is free
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  Speaker 2: to change his mind at any time.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's his call. When he a full when
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  Speaker 3: you have a full note trade clause, you have the control.
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  Speaker 3: So certainly, as the season progresses.
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  Speaker 2: Different players get hurt, different players point more opportunities might
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  Speaker 2: arise for him, or perhaps they won't. And that's going
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  Speaker 2: to be interesting too. And there's one other thing to
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  Speaker 2: keep in mind here. Let's say he stays Alana. Let's
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  Speaker 2: say he stays and the Cardinals are competitive. Now we
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  Speaker 2: don't really expect that, but there are six playoff teams
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  Speaker 2: in each league. It's kind of hard to fall out
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  Speaker 2: of contention in the first half. Maybe he thinks you
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  Speaker 2: know what, this isn't so bad. Let's go and stay
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  Speaker 2: here and see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Nolan Arnano ultimately wants to win. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the biggest the biggest driver for him. All right,
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  Speaker 1: next question here on Grill and Ken keep getting those
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  Speaker 1: questions in opportunity to ask Ken a question and An Rizzo, which,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, today is my brother Anthony Rizzo's birthday,
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  Speaker 1: So happy birthday Anthony. The other Anthony Rizzo is still unsigned.
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  Speaker 1: So Bernie Suarez wants to know Ken. Is free agency
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  Speaker 1: over at this point or can we expect guys like
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  Speaker 1: Rizzo and JD. Martinez to sign soon?
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  Speaker 2: Well, happy birthday of your brother as well, Alta. And
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  Speaker 2: as for the question, Bernie, free agency.
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  Speaker 3: Is not over. It's never over. There's no deadline. There's
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  Speaker 3: no point of the spring.
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  Speaker 2: Or season where players can't sign anymore. So it's still
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  Speaker 2: possible those guys will sign, and in some ways it
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  Speaker 2: might hinge on what happens this spring, just as I
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  Speaker 2: was mentioning with Arnato.
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  Speaker 3: But in the shorter term.
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  Speaker 2: Are teams liking what they see from their DH first
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  Speaker 2: base situation in Rizzo's case, and the DH situation.
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  Speaker 3: In Martinez's case, We'll see teams.
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  Speaker 2: Always think at this time of year, right before the
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  Speaker 2: games start, and the games have started now, but around
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  Speaker 2: this time of year, they think they're good.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're good. We fixed ourselves in the off season.
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  Speaker 3: We're ready to.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Go, and then the games start and things happen and
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: they start wondering, maybe we're not as good as we
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: thought we were. So there's still opportunity for those players. Obviously,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: with JD, it's.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: A restricted role and it makes it a little bit
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: more difficult. Most teams don't.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Even want a set DH, but we'll see what happens.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: It's not over to answer your question.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Could Anthony Rizzo also be in more of that restrictive
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: role as a DH or do you see him playing
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: first someplace?
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: I would think a team that signs Anthony Rizzo wants
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: him to play first. Teams value versatility anyway. They want
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: players doing as much as they can or giving them
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: the ability to do as much as they can by
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: being flexible. And while Rizzo is not flexible in terms
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: of positions that he plays on the field, he is
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: a first baseman, so I would expect if he signs
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: it's at first base, all.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Right, so defensively at first base, and of course what
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: he gives you as adh last question here for Grill
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: and Ken. Who do you anticipate Ken to be the
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: most exciting prospect from two thousand and twenty five? Who
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: are you looking forward to see?
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing all three Red Sox players,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and we're talking about of course Roman, Anthony Roman Anthony,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Marcelo Mayer and Christian Campbell.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: Campbell we might see before any of them.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: It seems like they're very high in him. And one
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: of the reasons they're thinking about Bragmanut third endeavors at
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: DH is because they want Christian Campbell to play. They
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: wanted to play second base most likely.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Now if he has.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: A poor spring and they change their minds and they
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: see some things that they want him to work on, still,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: maybe they determine.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: No, that doesn't work for us. Let's put him back
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: in triple A. We can wait a couple of months.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Whatever it's going to be, play Bragmut second, devors A third,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: and we can make the move later. But those three
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: guys are kind of the talk of.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: The sport right now, and it's going to be really.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Interesting to see how they perform and how this new
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: era of Red Sox baseball takes shape.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like a bunch of musical chair if
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: you will, with the Boston Red Sox. But I do
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: think that they will have a competitive team and we'll
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: see what happens in that al East this year.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that is it for Grill and Ken. How
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: about we go to due to the week?
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  Speaker 5: Dude, dude, dude, all.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Right, Ken, this is the opportunity for you and I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: to give props to a person or an entity or
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: an organization who is your due to the week.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Well, my dude of the week is a fellow baseball writer,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and before people start screaming out there, it's appoused to
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: be a player, a general.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: No no, no, I can do whatever I want.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: It's our due to the week, Mine and Alanas, and
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: my dude of the week is a fellow writer who
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: announced that he is leaving the Los Angeles Times last
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: night on X. His name is Mike di Giovanna. Mike
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: has been doing this a really long time. We go
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: back together almost forty years, and he has been throughout
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: his career a brilliant writer, of course, but also kind
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: of guy you want to hang around with, just a lassy,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: great kind person.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: And it was cool for me also to see.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: In an age when a lot of writers lose jobs
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: that are not their choice, Mike was able because the
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: La Times are offered a buy out, to make a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: decision on his own, to call his own shot and
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: to step away before he wanted to, but at the
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: same time to do it on his terms. So congratulations
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to Mike on a great career, and we all wish
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: him well and think of him only.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: As the best.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He's been with the LA Times for four decades,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: covered the Angels, the Dodgers, the Chargers, everything Los Angeles.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: A great writer, a great friend. He was just on Dodgers'
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: territory the other day. I agree with you. It's nice
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to be able for him to go out on his
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: own terms. He said, I'm still going to freelance a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: little bit. Still can't give it up cold turkey, but
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: now he can do it when he wants to. Congratulations DG,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: We're very proud of you. My dude of the week
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: is Marcus Strowman. And the reason I picked Marcus Stroman
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Ken is I think we're so quick to jump on
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: him when we perceive him to do things that maybe
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't do, or that we don't like, or we
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: think that, you know, he can be And I'm speaking
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: for myself, sometimes it appears that he can be a
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: little bit selfish sometimes, But I think Marcus Stroman is
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: also very misunderstood. And I love the fact that he
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: was willing to continue to donate and support the families
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: devastated by the LA fires. And I think what's interesting
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: for me too about this particular gesture from Stroman is
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have any specific ties as far as I
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: know to Los Angeles. I mean, it's not his birthplace.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: He didn't go to high school there, he didn't go
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: to college there. He's a New York kid. He's never
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: played in the Los Angeles Angels or Dodgers organization. And
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: good for him for wanting to give back to a
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: community that has absolutely been devastated. So for those of
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: us that criticize Marcus Stroman, I also think we need
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to praise Marcus Stroman when he does something so selflessly
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: like this. So for that, Marcus Strouman is my Dude
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: of the Week Time now for the John Fisher Dork
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: of the Week award and Ken for once, it's nothing
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to do with the athletics organization. Who is your dork
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of the Week?
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: First of all, al On a great choice for Due
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to the Week.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Marcus is certainly deserving of it after what he did
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: for the victims out in LA.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: It's really cool to see that.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Now my dork of the week is someone who does
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: play for a Los Angeles team, and I'm kind of
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: threading the needle here now.
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: I guess what hear Dandoz did.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: He tried to challenge the strike call with the new
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: ABS system and the only issue is they aren't using
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: it at this ballpark.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Thank you to Dodger Blue for that tweet. That's kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: of not really dork quality. But I owe key K.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I owe him from last year after.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers closed out the Division Series and he asked
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: me the question on live television All they Live and
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: then he gave his answer.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: His answer went viral. It's cool, we get it.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: However, it was a violeec so KEI K I probably
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: owe you about ten dorks of the week.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: You got a little bit of a fine for that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: It wasn't enough.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: But Kik Aarnandez dork of the week, and he knows
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I'm saying this well somewhat lovingly.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course it's an interesting Kik is something. I
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: tell you what. We've had some very interesting moments interviewing
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Kei k Hernandez. Good for the game, but you never
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: know what's going to come out of that kid's mouth.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: All right, My dork of the week is a guy
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: that I have a lot of respect for. He's one
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of my homies. If you will, My Cuban brethren, my
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Cuban brother, Nestor Cortez, stop it with the Yankees were
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the better team in the World Series, Mester. I love you,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: but stop it. We were the better team in twenty
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: twenty four World Series versus the Dodgers. This coming from
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Noah Cameras. They can talk whatever they want to talk.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: But we win Game one, which we should have. We
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: lost two and three, We win Game four and we
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: should have won Game five. First of all, this is
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: such an interesting comment and flex from a guy that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: gave up one of the biggest home runs in World
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Series history. In terms of what we're talking about. Obviously,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the home run to Freddie Freeman, that completely change the
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: landscape and the course of the World Series is an
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: interesting flex to me. And also I would maybe agree
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: with you if it was a playing game, if it
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: was even a two of three, if it was a
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: wild card series. But it wasn't, as if it was
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: just a small sample size. It wasn't even a five
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: game series. Ken even though they wanted in game five,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it was a seven game series, and if you truly
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: were the better team, you would have won. It's like
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: we are what they thought we are. That type of
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that old quote. If you want to take a look
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: at things, just if you're the better team, talk to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the fifth inning, talk to fundamentals, talk to the fifth
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: inning in game five. I love you, Nestor, but stop
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: should have coulda would you didn't? That's my dude of
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the week.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: The only thing I want to the only thing I
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: want to add here is and this is not your
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: fault or anybody's fault. The tweet was a quote from
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: an article in The Athletic by Tyler Capnor.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Now the tweet did not credit.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Tyler Captor, because that's what aggregators sometimes do.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: They don't like that. I don't know that was in
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: an article lent.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: The article by Tyler really good one about nest Cortez Junior.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: So just to clarify that.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: As for the quote, I mean, players can believe whatever
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: they want, and I'm sure he's entitled to think that.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: But anybody watching that World Series, it would be hard
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: to say the Yankees with a better team.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Just watch the games. I understand these things do turn
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: on a dime, and sure, if they get through Game one,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: maybe everything changes, the whole world changes, but they didn't,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: and from there it was just the way it was.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: So I admire Nestor for his forthrightness and for still believing,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: but nah.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Yankees, Yeah, nasty. Nestor was not spot on in terms
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: of that one. I do hope. I wish him honest
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to goodness, nothing but the best. I do think he
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: will succeed and thrive with the Milwaukee brother.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: He's a great dude, is a great guy, and you know,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: he's had a good career so far, and he's done
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of good things in the game.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: But that one might not.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: That one missed the mark a little bit. All right,
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  Speaker 1: this question here. It's working. It says, when teams dealing
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: with pitching injuries, is it more likely they add through
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: trades or kick the trees or kick the tires rather
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: on some of the remaining free agents. This is from
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Sprucey Underscore eleven.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Sprucey, thanks for that, and they'll explore every opportunity that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: they can, every avenue that they can to improve. Now
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: there are some free agents out there, Lancelyn Kyle Gibson
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: David Robertson in the Bullpen film Mayton and the Bullpen.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: So there are still players out there now.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: In Lynn and Gibson's case, I'm sure they want a
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: certain salary level Robertson too, and that's kind of what's
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: holding them back. And even in Mayton's case, it's always
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: what holds a free agent back when they're not signed.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: They want an amount of money or an opportunity that
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: does not exist for them. So it would depend on
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: the team's urgency and desperation might be a strong word,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: but desire to add a player and add payroll in
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: that fashion. Trades are another possibility, and we've heard for
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: quite some time now that the Padres have not the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: willingness necessarily, but the idea of entertaining at least thoughts
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: on Dylan Ceas and Michael King and Robert Swarez and
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: the Bullpen, most likely it would be sware In my opinion,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Aj Preller, what he's doing in San Diego is trying
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: to keep that team together as best he can, and
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: they might be facing some financial pressures to move somebody,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: but the guy that I understand they would most like
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: to move is a Rise Louis Arise, not a picture,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: And they've also had thoughts of trading Jake Croniworth, who
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: has a lot of money left on his deal. But
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: it seems to me that Preller has held off all
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: this time, and I don't know that unless he gets
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the absolute deal he.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Wants, he's going to move any of those guys.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: So my point is trading for a picture at this
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: point is much more difficult than going out and signing one. Now,
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: Marcus Stroman, your Dude of the week, is available, the
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yankees will trade him. Jordan Montgomery with the Dimond zone
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: of Diamondbacks is available.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: But both those.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Guys carry hefty salaries and, in Stroman's case, a healthy
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: investing option that kicks in at one hundred and forty innings.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: So it's going to give some teams pause. It always
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: comes down the money, Alana, right, That is the case
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: with both free agents and trades.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. When I was a little kid, my mom had
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: a bumper sticker that said money talks and mine only
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: says goodbye. And speaking of goodbye, Ken, it is time
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: to say goodbye on our show. Ken Rosenthal, we appreciate
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you as always. This is fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: coming up next, it is Fair Territory. Eric Kratz is
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: at Cardinals camp. Maybe he'll talk to Nolan Arnatto, who
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: knows Todd Frasier. Eric Kratz and Scott Braun are the host.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Ken will be back with a brand new Fair Territory
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: on Monday. I follow Foul today with Dodger's Territory. Have
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: a good one, Thanks a Lota