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The Rise and Fall of Cheat Codes | CreepChat 3 · Cart Creeps

• Carter Creepington: Shout out to ⁓ our ⁓ Ultra Creep, Lance. Lance. He's playing Darkest Dungeon right now. Keeps popping up. He keeps turning it off and on. It's like he knows we're recording. Yeah, I don't know wonder what is it is it broken? What's wrong with your game? Yeah. And turning it off and then he can't not play it. Yes. Yeah. Pulls it back in. Dang it. He's got zoomer brain rot that lance where it's like he's you you know, you pick up your phone, you look at Instagram, you're like, I don't want to do this. And then you pick it back up immediately afterwards. Doing that but with a a video game. ⁓ That's how I feel about fighting games. I'll be out and then then just like go back right back in like an hour later. Just like all right, yeah. It's like there's a meme, it's like when I finally get to play video game and then it shows the guy's face and he's just like dead in the dead in the eyes. Like not even playing the game, just holding the controller looking at the T V. Yeah. Are you playing the song right now? Well I'll play it. You should play it right now then. So that's I don't think I can I don't think I can play it. And then play the song right now so then it's a good lead in. Maybe. I did say But cut that part out in like the first. I mean explaining that. I said The F word in like the first ten seconds, which is apparently that's a bad thing to do. Like it's fine to use it later. Yeah, you two minute, I think. If you curse, they like yeah, they Yeah. I'll just have to bleep that one out. But welcome back to Car Creeps. This time we don't have Gabe. ⁓ this is our third episode of Creep Chat. Is where it's been called. It's also been called creep talk. It's also been called just you call song. Just creeping. Just creeping. Yeah. Just creeping. The best thing I can remember. On this episode, we're gonna be talking a little bit about cheat codes. ⁓ just a little bit of reminiscing and nostalgia for cheat codes and how that's not really much of a thing anymore. And maybe except for certain circumstances, some games. Maybe it should be. Just talk about that a little bit. We also wanna mention Yeah yeah, you know what? Nothing more to be said. Play the option. Play the music. Love that music. Yeah, so if you ⁓ we also need to mention, ⁓ you probably see if you're watching on YouTube, you can see behind me Super Mario Kart is playing on the TV. That was our ⁓ high score challenge game of the past. It's not really a month, it's not a month to month. thing. The dog is coughing. I'll be cutting this part. No, she's getting up. That wasn't that bad though. Damn it. She likes dry heaves is what it is and never actually like hacks anything. Trauma queen. Just nonstop. I don't know if it's worse in the evenings. Like I just gave her the pill. So she'll get better soon, but for a little bit she'll be like this. Yeah. But she wasn't like this the first You didn't guys didn't hear the first like while I until I mentioned she was in the room. I don't know what triggers it. Mm. We took her taken to the vet multiple times and they don't have an actual answer. Mm. What was I talking about? Super Mario Kart? No. Yeah. So you notice the T V behind me is playing some Super Mario Kart, which was ⁓ last time's ⁓ high score challenge. If you tuned in last episode, we ⁓ Jay revealed that this was going to be his choice for this episode. And so everyone got a chance to play it, get their high score. ⁓ Jay had it what was it? It was ⁓ Bowser's Castle three and time trial mode. Yeah. And fastest time, you know. Yeah. And the winner was Mars Spiders with a was it two ⁓ three? Is that right? No, he got under two minutes. He got two or three was my time. ⁓ one yeah, one for two minutes. It was like one fifty eight. Yeah. Yeah. The only sub two minutes run. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what a creep. If you're in our Discord, you know, join our Discord card creeps, ⁓ and join our ⁓ We have a lot of fun there. We do have a lot of fun. And you can actually see all our scores that we all posted. ⁓ except for one person. One person didn't post ⁓ the hosts, and that's weird. I wonder who that was. Actually ⁓ yeah, Gabe did post picture. It could have been. Nope, ⁓ Gabe actually did post his Here's Ryan posting his time here. And here's Ryan posting. I just said what my time was. I didn't actually post a picture. Mine was bad, so ⁓ yeah, you did that's right. Yeah, you just said yours is bad. So yeah, you can post my time that I posted in there. ⁓ yeah, Jay, where was your time? What was ⁓ what time did you put on? Well I take grace in the fact that I chose a really good high score challenge for the rest of us. And a fellow creep one. So some real good came out of this one, I think. Some real community bonding. I disagree entirely with everything that saying. It's more it's it's bigger than me. It's bigger than me, Keith. You go f yourself. Yeah. This was a real pain in the ass. The winner was, like we said, ⁓ Mars Spiders. Not sure what he played on. I'm assuming Switch. I can't really tell from realistically. I mean we It looks like a T V We didn't know what he did, so that's totally what I would lose. He may have Nintendo online. Yeah, that's probably what he played it on, is what if my assumption. ⁓ yeah, one fifty eight. ⁓ we'll have that show that up on the screen. Best lap of twenty two, twenty four, ⁓ twenty si you know, ⁓ set twenty two seconds and twenty four ⁓ hundredths. I believe it goes by hundreds, doesn't it? Yeah. Not thousands or anything like that. Whatever. So since Mars Spiders won, that means he gets to pick next month's game and or well, when I say month Next the next game, right? It's gonna be about a month worth of time to play it. Actually, it's more like Yeah, no, it's almost a month. It's like three weeks. Yeah. Yeah. The date the deadline will be posted once the once this episode's live ⁓ for completing your high score. But what he chose was ⁓ Zero Wing on the Sega Genesis and ⁓ I'll specifically normal mode player three and wrap it on. I'll show on screen the specific options ⁓ so everyone gets it right. There are no cheat codes for zeroing, ⁓ I'm looking at it right now. Would have been fun, but not this month. Yeah, the only I didn't know what it was. ⁓ I googled it on when he told us and I was like, Okay. And then I immediately recognized it because it's the ba it's the all your base or belong to us meme, like one of the very early internet memes that you may remember from the past of the poorly translated ⁓ Japanese to English. ⁓ And there's lot of other gyms in there. We ⁓ we watched the opening ⁓ sequence just now, ⁓ just before we started. It was pretty good. So at least that's you get in for a laugh for ⁓ you know, checking that out. But I first heard about that like in two thousand three or two thousand four, I think. When I first heard about that. Yeah. It was one of the first internet memes I remember ever encountering. Like back when people didn't post them on the internet like in a public spaces. I I don't know if you guys remember that, but like back in like early Facebook, 'cause we're all of the age that Facebook became popular when we were in high school. So like we were all had or I had one in two thousand five, maybe. Oof. I knew what an internet meme was, but you would never have posted one on Facebook. There's no way 'cause everyone you'd know like everyone's serious. What is this? Yeah, like this guy's a weirdo. Like what are you doing? I mean, it was serious in the sense that like There was still it still mattered like what you posted, but like people posted there's like a huge thing of like people girls usually would have like would hang out and post a fat like a a hundredths photos in an album after they hung out and it's just all like nonsense photos, which is ⁓ I mean, it's just a thing that everyone did back then, which is pretty funny. Nothing was like meticulously like framed or supposed like that is today. Like obviously now Instagram, everyone everything has to be exactly perfect on your Instagram when you're posting. I mean, not for people like us. But you know, my Instagram is pristine, sir. Yeah. I have zero back then. People just posted literally mass post insight. Back then it was massive photo dumps of like just like nothing. Like total stupid, silly stuff. Which is fine. That's what it was funny. All the dumping shit on MySpace. So for me at least. I don't I don't know. I don't I all I ever used on MySpace was My support was like music stuff. Yeah, I did a lot of music research on MySpace. I did the survey. That's pretty much all I did. I watched I watched illegal anime subs on MySpace video. Dang, nice. Yeah. That's a good topic to have sometime. ⁓ introductions our our our piracy ⁓ you know, past. That's a good one. Cause it's such an uncommon thing now and like kids these kids these days. They don't even know what it was like. Struggle. Speaking of not knowing what it was like, ⁓ we were all sharing cheat codes. It was a good community. It was. Yeah. So cheat codes ⁓ back in the day were ⁓ like the way at least the way we experienced them, like you may have heard about them through your friends or you would go on something called the internet. The what? Back then the internet was not look did not look like a it looked now, but there were websites dedicated to cheat codes. And I I remember we printed stuff, like we had printouts. ⁓ not a ton, but people I did the same. I had a binder. I had a full ass folder of cheat codes. Yeah. Yeah. And like it's such an it's something I haven't put that much thought into really, but it's an interesting kind like, you know, social like thing that this was just something that everyone did. And it wasn't like they were cheat codes, but you didn't feel like you were like Cheating. It was just ways to make the game feel different. I mean, sir, some of them were like actually cheating, like giving yourself maximum health or whatever, but you know, whatever. How play the game however you wanted to back then because there was no online anyways for a lot of these. Some of them just gave you enough lives to play the game because like the games were so hard, you know. Right. Yeah. Some people probably needed the twenty lives to like get a better experience out of it, which is totally fair. Like me. Now I just have save states, which is the same thing, basically, but no, so Konami Code, one of the obviously the most famous ones, ⁓ ab up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B A start. Correct? That is, yeah. I play a ton of can I believe B A B A. Mm-hmm. I think. I don't think so. But I rem there was one only one I remember having memorized was actually I think it was a GTA one. It was like R one, R two, L one, R2, left down, right up, left down, right up, but I don't remember what it did, but that's the one. Yes. I have to remember that. Yeah. I think I feel like that carried over to like multiple. As he started saying it, the rest kind of filled my head. Yeah. Yeah. It must have been something similar. But the Konami Code was mainly for ⁓ what is it for for Gradius, the NES port of Gradius. ⁓ but what it really became famous for was adding thirty lives in Contra, because Contra's a hard game. So that was I think the the origin of the always the you know what how it pick like kicked off and people started, you know, really knowing what it was. And obviously that carried forward to Pretty much every Konami game. ⁓ passwords kinda like cheat codes, but like different. Passwords are kinda like we we covered Super Castlevania four ⁓ in a previous episode. So go check that out if you're interested in that one. But that one's got password systems. And any game that has a password system is kinda like cheat code because if you can find the passwords, you s double skip. Yeah, you can teleport. But is it really is the same cheat code in the same way as like making giving yourself infinite health? Not really, because you're just skipping content. Yeah. But I don't know. I guess it's kind of like a cheat code, but in my mind it's not. It's not really It's just cheating. Yeah. It's a code used in cheat, but not a cheat code. You're not really getting more fulfillment out of it as a gamer. You're just skipping the game. Yeah. Which is Yeah. And that's how a lot of a lot of cheat codes are like that, but some of them aren't, you know, like ⁓ we did with Jay just he brought this up before. We're talking about console commands for like PC games. ⁓ obviously I think that started back as far as like, you know, Doom had some for God mode and stuff like that, no clip. But ⁓ yeah, you can play f like any Bethesda game has, you know, TCL for toggle collision, then you can walk through walls and stuff, which helps you get when you get stuck, 'cause sometimes you do get stuck in a Bethesda game physically. Like you jump into a spot and you can't get out. ⁓ you can turn on God mode, but I never really do that when I use Like my most common like console commands probably the fly camera, T V F C for flying the camera around and like looking at the environment, you know what I mean? But ⁓ yeah, I don't know if console commands. One time I did have their cheats too. Yeah, right. One time I did I had a mod for Fallout Three and it was just like make anyone a companion. So I had three dog with me running around the wasteland and he's not like essential, so he'll just die. ⁓ so I had to god mode him. And then he became a permanent companion and that was really fun. See, cheating for fulfillment is worth it. Yeah, honestly, for console commands and Bethesda games, they're more like used utility than necessarily cheating because sometimes the game will just break. Like Yeah. Your companion just is gone. You don't know where they are or where this person is or MPC. There's like you had to look up yeah, the console command you can look up the care like the ID of the actual like MPC and then like teleport them to you so that like You get them out of whatever random limbo they're in. So that's a that's one common use for that. So that's not really like cheating because the game's broken. Quality of life control. Yeah. Yeah, you're fixing it. You're getting back what's yours, which was companion. Obviously, you can add items and stuff like that and con in that. ⁓ I mean, honestly, that's always fine. Console commands on Bethesda games are like a console command plus mods are why people want to play Bethesda games on PC instead of ⁓ consoles. So like that's what mu appealed most to me was to be able to do that stuff and add mods and stuff like that. So mods is a whole separate thing. We'll probably have a a video about mods in the future. But talking about that. ⁓ yeah, talking about cheat codes and we remember from our personal past. ⁓ we'll also talk about ⁓ action replays and ⁓ game genies, right? Game Game Shark this yeah, there was Game Genie as well. But Game Shark That was like one of the first ones. Yeah, I think it's an older one. Game Shark I remember, but I never I never personally had either of them. But we'll we'll talk about that in a little bit. But what ⁓ like for you, Keith, what like when you think of cheat codes, which games come to mind as like the games you put use cheat codes in the most or spent time printing stuff out for or writing it down? So earliest I said the earliest game I played put cheat codes on. Goldeneye 64. ⁓ because you could have all kinds of fun with that. ⁓ big head mode. Every game is big head mode. So, you know, every old ⁓ 90s game they had that. ⁓ also paintball mode where every shot you could just you just shoot on the ground and you see all the love to paintball mode. Yeah, it's always fun. even like made the game not so violent. Yeah, exactly. Mom, mom ⁓ you know, and classic ⁓ like midway games like NFL Blitz or ⁓ even NBA jam and also like Mortal Kombat before a game starts you could like put in codes for like fun stuff. Like Mortal Kombat you could like change the stage or you could turn blood on or you could do all kinds of fun stuff. NFL Blitz you could again big head mode or you know big feet mode sometimes as well for like NBA jam. Like that just du or infinite turbo, you know, just fun stuff like that just to make the game just more ridiculous. But those were always the ones that I was always ⁓ I remember those were the ones that I would print out stuff for. And then for Mortal Kombat also I would also just print out the fatalities 'cause I didn't know how to do them. So yeah. I always remember having a just a big f f folder full of ⁓ full of cheats and I use I used the I used cheat code central. That was our go to site. And then eventually I remember years later checking on it and then it was like just like so riddled with ads and prices and stuff. Like, ⁓ god. Then we move on to Game Facts for the adult, for the teenager gamer. Game Facts was really where everything, you know, thrived. Yeah, really. I found a lot of things on Game Facts. Yeah. Like more they were more than cheat codes. They were everything you could ever need on a game. Plus forums, about anecdotal evidence. I still use them for these games we play a lot since they're old games. I like using the old guides. So I usually try to use those instead of using the IGN guides, which are like They lots pictures and stuff or whatever, but like someone painstakingly making a logo. Yeah. And they're long. They're really long, too. Yeah, yeah. Hours of like, you know, making these. So they're worth like checking out. It's like a another. And it'll have like entire game mechanics in it. Yeah. It won't just be the walkthrough. It'll be like every bit of information about the game. Like here's what every item does. Here's where you can get every item. It's those people were built different. Yeah, right. Yeah. I c I couldn't do that. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that. Yeah, yeah, no. No way. Here's a question. Is using a guide cheating? Is it its own cheat code? No. No. Cheating by we use guides all the time. I try not to use guides, but I'm not against a guide. Yeah. We'll probably cover this in a future episode, but I ⁓ I think we'll talk about guides more in depth because I have some physical ones still and I ⁓ they're their own thing, you know. ⁓ but yeah, I have the big Oblivion one. That's I think it's actually on that shelf somewhere over there. I'm pretty sure I brought it here. It used to be at my parents' house. It might have a Halo three guide, but it's not like that's that game's not that complicated. So but I might have one. I might have I used to have to look. I used to like now you can just go to Cerebi ⁓ and find all your Pokemon information. But like I the old school like thick Pokemon books that had all the movesets and where you could catch them and all that was always really fun. Plus it just you got bigger biographies and descriptions of the Pokemon. That was fun little lore. Mm-hmm. That you had to get from those books. Mm-hmm. I just remember as a kid for like the scholastic book fairs. I don't know if they do still do those anymore, but one of the things they would do is that one of the books you could order was a ⁓ one hundred and fifty cheats and tips and tricks and cheats for Game Boy Color game. And I I'd always buy those. And those are I remember those. It was like a Shaped like a dictionary. Yep, exactly. Yeah, those are always yeah, those are always really cool. And so you know, yeah, yeah. So between like physical, like putting in the actual code to the game versus like the game sharks, the action replays. I remember my cousin first showing me his game shark. I think he had it for the Sega Genesis. It was really cool because I was like, Whoa. 'Cause like you normally when you put in a game, when you think about having to switch out a game, you just turn it off and don't you know and you don't You leave it off and then you plug it in the new one, then you turn it on. Like with the Game Shark or Action Replay, you would leave the system on and then s take out the action replay and then put in the new game. That blew Little Keith's kid mind at the time. I was like, Whoa, that you're not supposed to do that. Still scares me. Yeah. Yeah, right. Terrifying. How did it how did it know to do that to change over? When I was playing Metal Gear Solid, I played it on my PS one. And I got to the part where you have to switch to disc and it was like open the tray and take out disc one and I was like I I didn't like it. And then I did it and of course it loaded the next, you know, ⁓ the next disc and I continued the game. But like th that you were always told, you know, never open the disc tray no matter what, it will melt your games. A monster will come and take all your socks. I never had an ac like I said, I never have an actual replay. My brother did, I think for the DS. I just like I didn't have much of a use for it, but I think most of the time when you had for like handle consoles, people were trying to cheat at Pokemon games. Yeah, ⁓ yeah generally. That's what I use my game short for. Yeah. And like I I It's fun. I don't know how it works. Especially as a kid, like you just get so much freedom. Like, you know, you can catch shinies if you want, depending on the game. Yeah, whatever items you want, get whatever levels you want. ⁓ the world is at your fingertips. I remember meeting kids had ninety nine rare candies and just like, ⁓ how'd you do that? ⁓ my god. It's not earned though. Does it count? If it's not earned, it's like No, it doesn't, but No, but it's like that's the one thing about using those kind of like cheating devices. Yeah. It's also like if no one like who you're cheating just for yourself to like win against a computer opponent. Listen, when I use it for Kingdom Hearts 2 to give myself max health, max magic, best weapon in the game, look, I had to beat Sephiroth somehow. Okay. I couldn't do it on my own. Just give me cut me some slack. I had to do it. Sure it was optional, but fuck. You know, I saw I just wanted to have fun. Yeah. I want to be the best. Yeah, I've played so much Pokemon without the cheating, but then you'd have your cheat playthroughs where you would just like have fun with the game shark for a playthrough and just like go crazy. For me, it was like seeing how much I could mess the game up. Like you could walk through walls and just like get key items out of place and like, you know, sequence break. that was just fun to see how broken you could make it too. Like just play scientists with your GBA hardware. My ⁓ personal like my personal memories of what I remember the most and having printed out for the most is probably ⁓ Tony Hawk games. Just especially specifically three and four. I don't know that underground and underground like Thug One and Thug Two had cheat codes. It mu it must have maybe had ⁓ but the way it did like mostly they were there were a few that were basically just cosmetics, so could have ⁓ Django Fett. Vidally viv I vividly remember playing as Django Fett in ⁓ the Perscater Three where you could like one of the tricks use the flamethrower, his like wrist flamethrower. ⁓ and then there was in four there was Iron Maiden's Eddie, the mascot, which is like kinda cool. But the f what was really fun in a game like ⁓ Tony Hawk is there like moon gravity, which just like totally changed the experience. ⁓ yeah. You know, dri fly around or like jump, do huge like ollies and stuff. Like you ca of course there's like infinite grind and stuff, perfect grind, but like that's not that much fun. It's like Infinite Special is pretty neat. Yeah, you can throw all the wacky tricks as much as you wanted. Yeah. Yeah. I just liked the special noise that it made too. Like the pr Yeah. Yeah. Maybe I want to hear that ten times a second. Yeah. I'm gonna get that sound grab that satellite to use as a sensor. ⁓ I like that. Yeah. ⁓ there was a kid mode thing too where it made you like smaller, you know, and everything was like it was worse. Everything sucked. Like it was you couldn't ollie as high, you couldn't do anything as well. And there was, I think, a cheat for more blood, which is hilarious. Yeah. And it was really disgusting. Because there was just like a little bit square blocks of blood. And when you yeah, I already fall and just go like Just everywhere. Like someone died every time they fell. Yeah. That was pretty good. I mean, obviously, like the icon one of the icons of cheat codes is GTA. Specifically, I think most of us have memories of San Andreas. ⁓ and my favorite, I don't know what you guys' favorite is, but my favorite is when the one that gives pedestrians guns, which is so funny. Yeah. Pairing that with a lot of riot. Yeah. Making the environment or war zone. Yeah. You've all of a sudden you've got invisible cars and so there's people like floating around and they and then they get out and they have guns and they're attacking you. Yeah, it's pretty good. One of my one of my favorite things, me and Alan did it a lot actually, was just put on ped riot pets with weapons and we would just take turns surviving. Like we could put in our own weapons codes to survive and stuff, but like when we died from a random pedestrian and that was it. And like There was always like a random old lady with a rocket launcher on a street corner that would just get you. I think it was fun just to give yourself a tank. That was always my favorite one. Just give yourself a tank and max five stars, just instant just go crazy. In the middle of the city. So yeah, right. And then when like I don't know, I don't know if like I think, I think, if you use too many cheat codes, the game starves you, right? Did my misremembering that? I think you're right. Like you just like start thinking like you like max out like I had I remember just like buffing out CJ and then like I just like go crazy with cheat coats and all of a sudden I just start like losing weight and starving and then like I just died. No matter what I did, I couldn't fix it. I don't know if that was like a anti too many cheats thing or what, but I don't know. That just Lucky for you, there is a maximum fat cheat in San Andreas as well. You can use like max buff, max fat, you know, like max sex appeal. Be sexy fat CJ all at once. The one I mentioned earlier, the R1, R2, L1, R2, left down, right up, left down, right up is the weapon set one sheet for GTA San Andreas. So classic. I didn't even own the game. My parents wouldn't let us have it. But my brother's friends had it and my brother's younger than me actually, which is funny because like the little the kid that was three years younger than me at the time, who was I was also too young to be playing it. He had a copy. Right. And he came over. We had a PS two, so we would play it. And like, yeah, we never played the story. I have no idea really what happens in the story of GTA San Andreas besides the meme. Actually a really good game. It is really good. It took me forever to beat it because I was always like just too busy dicking around doing other stuff. But yeah, it was really good. I wanted to play it when they had the like the remaster that came out on that long ago but there was like some like weirdness about it and like it didn't yeah. So I just didn't bother. I I played the remaster I actually beat three Vice City and San Andreas through the remasters. I didn't have a problem with it. Everyone else was mad at ⁓ but I mean it was a remaster. It was a reskin. I felt like it looked pretty good for like the reskin that it was. Can you even get the older? You can't even get the older one, Virgins, can you? Well Well You can. I don't know not really anything about that on this podcast. But you said the P word that silence that. Yeah. If you want us to play Grand Theft Auto San Andreas, ⁓ join our Patreon and become an Ultra Creep and ⁓ put that on the list. That may break the ⁓ hours limit, so I don't know. I don't know, that's fine. I I would be willing to do it though, because it's I like GTA games are fine. I beat the next two games. I beat f ⁓ four and five. I like four a lot, the one with Nico. ⁓ that one has I think it has cheats. I've never messed around with Five has some cheats too, but they weren't as cool. Like you could type in cell phone codes. I know there's like a five minute god mode invincibility thing and maybe some other stuff, but it wasn't they took off the cool like pedestrian riot stuff. I guess that'd be too much for that game to handle too. I think so too, 'cause that game runs janky jankly even like normally it's yeah, it struggles. I love that game though. I would like to play that game again. One of my favorite w one of my favorite codes. Hey. Sorry. Did y'all ever use the it was like press square, press circle to make cars jump? Yes. In Grand Theft Auto. Gosh, that was one of the best ones. You could just traverse anything. You could mash people. Which is the best thing you could do. Yeah, and just make, you know, destroy things. I use many cheat codes in the Sims back in the day. ⁓ just 'cause like I don't think I ever did that in the Sims. I never played the Sims because I Man and I disagree with so much fun with simulations as you saw in our last video. You need to get into simulation games. Is what you need to do. nice try, Jackass. Learning to farm and Animal Crossing will make you millionaire. I don't know if I ever encountered any of these ⁓ fake like fake urban legends regarding like cheat codes. I feel like I probably did hear about them, but there's lots of like random hearsay from kids and you don't know which like what to believe because kids are just stupid. Playground rumors. Yeah. But there's like Stuff like, ⁓ well, ⁓ something apparently is I wasn't a Final Fantasy person, but apparently there was a rumor there was a cheat that would bring Aerith back to life, which is pretty funny. She does just code as a kid. As a kid, who that would be you'd like, ⁓ yeah, that makes sense. There should there's probably a cheat code that does that like obviously there's not. Like that's not how it works. I could see there being a way to keep her as a playable character, like just just for like the turn based, you know. Yeah. I could see that being possible. But that's more just like breaking the game itself. Jay's little heart got broken. What about She was too young? She was too good for this world. Yeah. Keith, what is Akuma in Resident Evil 2? Allegedly. It's so Capcom does actually like putting Akuma in stuff. And he's actually a secret character in their ⁓ first Marvel fighting game, ⁓ X Men Children of the Atom. So well, he's actually not even like well, yeah, he's a secret character, but you have to basically break the game and get him in there. But they actually made him when they re-released all their old classic fighting games in the Marvel fighting collection, he's actually just a selectable character in there now. But ⁓ Kaikwam just loves putting Akuma in 'cause Akuma is cool as shit. So allegedly there was a ⁓ a way to get Akuma into Resident Evil Two if you did like a bunch of like swacky specific shit. ⁓ wasn't real obviously, but someone did actually create a mod of Resident Evil two to actually put Akuma in there. And it's legit. It's like it's like an Akuma model, like it modeled in the style of Resident Evil Two and he throws fireballs, he I don't you know he can shoot guns, I don't remember. ⁓ but yeah, he shoots fireballs, he can do his ⁓ little teleport move where he dashes forward. See, this is why there aren't cheat codes anymore. People can just do whatever they want with any game. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Yeah. So you maybe you can just the evolution of cheat codes. Yeah, so you can just play Resident Evil Two as Akuma right now, through the magic of modding. Maybe it a whiz actually a secret and there and no one has found it out how to get him yet because of people like you know, imagine the first person that unlocked a secret outfit in that game, 'cause it's kind of arbitrarily like weird. Like you gotta make it to a certain make it to the PlayStation without picking up anything. Getting yeah, picking up anything. I mean that game has been ripped you can get hit. You just can't pick up anything. ⁓ that game has been ripped open to hell and back. So I mean you never know. some hiding in there. He's in there. He's in there somewhere. That's how Playground numbers start. It was like, ⁓ he's in there. I seen it. Mm-hmm. He's in there. I saw it. Yeah. You're doing it wrong. My dad showed me how to do it. You're doing it wrong. Yeah. A lot of I mean once you get to like the mid 2000s You don't you start seeing them in cheat codes a lot less? I mean GTA San Andreas was what? Two thousand what year did it come in? Three four three. You know, we normally never do this, but I'm pulling up my phone to look something up, everybody. I don't think it was four. I think it was you're on computer. Also. Yeah, but this makes it funnier. Two thousand four. Two thousand four. I was right. Okay. Nope. I didn't actually remember. You were last late. No. So it was it was probably one of the ⁓ pretty large. One of the yeah. One of the later games ⁓ to have still like have like cheats be such a like common thing. Last bastion of cheat codes. Yeah. And really really those were just like for funsies. Yeah. It was just like let's make it arcade mode. Yeah, it's true true. Yeah, that wasn't it's just like not even just for fun. For the love of the game. ⁓ achievements and trophies are really wrecked that too. Yeah. Like that's true. That's true. If for anyone for anyone who likes the trophies or achievement hunts, like a lot of games will be like trophies disabled once cheats activated or something, which is a real shame. Right. Which also makes sense. Yeah, right. And it seems counterproductive to make a game with achievements and cheats. Yeah. You gotta remember only a few years later, ⁓ Like if, you know, GTA San Andreas was ⁓ four, Oblivion came out in O six, and I don't think horse armor came out in the same year, but it was like soon after like DLC and microtransactions started being That's crazy. The first DLC. So like by the time you have stuff like that, ⁓ fucking horse armor. The go the whole game has changed, literally. Yeah. Like the the game and the landscape of the game. industry. Yeah, you you have to buy the stuff. You have to buy like this stuff. I mean buy the jetpack and Grand Theft Auto online. Yeah. With yeah, with GTA online money or whatever. Because that is like its whole it is it its own like economy thing. Like that is like the most successful money on eBay right now. Actually no I'm sorry. GTA Online is the most successful piece of media ever created. Yeah. Like GTA Online, you have to earn in game money, which you can buy with real money, obviously. ⁓ pay to win, baby. You can that's cheat code. You get Yeah. Dollar dollar bills. It's a shame. It's a shame. Let me play Resident Evil Nine with I mean, but also like with so other stuff like Resident Evil to say, like when if you want like infinite ammo, it's like an a unlockable that you have to like work to get now. So it's like so they still give you that stuff, but like you have to it's there. Yeah. You just gotta earn it. They make you work for it. You have to earn it. How dare they make gamers game? Yeah. Sons of bitches. I mean, we can just go back and play San Andreas with the cheat codes and like nothing changed. Nothing's stopping us. Does the remaster version have the cheat codes still in there? They have the cheat c but the achievements, ⁓ like I said a second ago, ⁓ they get disabled if you do but I didn't care. Yeah. I I did my cheats where I wanted them. Not to like you know, I played the game and like I wasn't doing money cheats or anything like that, but just like fun stuff sometimes, you know, and make a save, do my cheat run and not save it, and then go back and play the game for real. Yeah. There's a it's fun to just turn a peaceful city into destructive playgrounds digitally. Of course. Of course, of course. On a video game. Never in real life. Of course. I don't know how to do that. So Keith, you would you might remember this. ⁓ back in the day, I guess you could call them cheat codes, but if you played any like Yu Gi ⁓ game, you could actually take your Yu Gi ⁓ card, there was a little number on the bottom right corner, and you could type the code of the card into the game and it would unlock that card in the game and you could then just like play it. Yes. I remember looking going through all my cards. You can only do it once though. You couldn't spam the card. Right. Yeah, you couldn't yeah, you couldn't get a play set. ⁓ it was always in the old World Tournament games and I think also in and also the ⁓ sacred cards, I think you could also do that in. But yeah. Yeah, granted you could just like look the cards up, but I did think it was cool how it like Yeah. It gave you a little reward, like you own the card in real life, you get to own it in the game too. Which that that was kind of That was cool. That was that was some chess. I remember in ⁓ Yu Gi ⁓ Duel S of the Roses for the PS2, I I used action replay to just get all the cards. So just skip that entirely. Every card. ⁓ my gosh. Yep. What's the fun in that? You didn't get to use your real life cards. When you can When you can make whatever deck you That's where the real heart of the cards was. Yeah, but that game doesn't play like ⁓ regular Yu-Gi-Oh!, so you're not trying to make whatever deck you have. You gotta like you gotta play within the c you gotta play within that game. So true. That game is fucks. But it's a lot of fun though. It's lot of fun. I'm gonna make that my next game, actually. Man, that it messes with the formula so bad. It's crazy. It does. It's like not even the same game, which not even not at all. Yeah, that's what makes a difference. It's not just a card game simulator. I wouldn't just give I wouldn't put World Tournament two thousand two on there and then ⁓ let's play this and you you know, 'cause then I don't know, some jackass might play one game and then that's it, you know? It's like or one duel and it's like who would do such a thing? So yeah, I've We've we're getting the behind the scenes look into my ⁓ how my thought process works. So I'm definitely putting Duels of the Roses by next game. I know there were other games too that kind of like Ratchet and Clank games, you could get skill points and which I guess it's not a code, but you know, it was skill points to unl like you get a certain amount and like five skill points would unlock big head mode, then there was little head mode. And a bunch of other fun modes, some reskins. And then you could like there were filters too where you could like make it chromatic and like retro or you know, like extra vivid or noir. which don't really even it doesn't help you in any way, it just changes the aesthetic of the look of the game, which I think is pretty neat. They give you costumes too with that as well. They give you that option a little bit. Just like costumes on Ratchet. Yeah. But you could you might have been able to play as like Quark and stuff like that. Mm-hmm. I love the like any game. Well, I guess now you can all games have camera modes and stuff, but back then when you could do like when games gave you the filters, I just thought that was a neat little customization that you don't really see in games today. Like there's not love put in the games the way there used to be. In a lot of ways, and that's just one tiny one. They don't make games like they used to, Jay. You're right. Yeah. They don't. Back in our day we used to have multiple franchises per console generation. Multiple of the same franchise per console generation. You remember when we had three GTAs on the PS2 and then we had a GTA that lasts three generations. Fifty Call of Duty's like there's like fifty call of duties on the three sixty ⁓ era. Well, maybe not. There's a there's a few though, quite a few. Some of the Some emulator stuff like in Retro Arch and in PPSS PP, there's like sections to specifically add cheats. So there are people out there. I that my under I don't have a I don't know how this works that well. My understanding is those might like Game Shark style cheats, like people that make for games that you can load in via an emulator, ⁓ like RetroArch or ⁓ PPSSPP, because they're the ones I see the most in and then use like modern day cheats, which I think you just kind of turn them on and off. There's no code. You just go into the menus, but it is still like a thing to ⁓ to do. And ⁓ yeah, it makes sense for some games like I feel like that there's like I never looked into really looked into it, but I think I looked there's like cheats for like Metal Slug for ⁓ PlayStation the PlayStation version where it just makes it, you know, way easier. Yeah. Those arcade ports a lot of times will have stuff like that. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if GTA six has cheats in it. Because apparently I didn't know this 'til like just now. Red Dead 2 has cheat system. You can enter cheat codes in Red Dead 2 in a similar way. I didn't know that either. So features a massive classic text entry cheat menu. GTA five does have some cheats, but it does. ⁓ but it's not as cool. Not as big variety as like our olden games. But I know they had like a God mode and maybe some like others. Obviously we talked about how we've kind of moved away gaming has moved away from cheat codes at this point in time. ⁓ maybe an indie games have ⁓ but is it like here's the thing. Do we need to go back to cheat codes or do we all just have a nostalgia for it because we were in it when it we were in it. You know what I mean? We were kids, we were in the the thick of it, the midst of like the, you know, ubiquitousness, like either where everywhere, like you action replays, game sharks or sale, everything There's a whole like microeconomy inside of gaming dedicated to cheat codes. And I'm surely like websites like Cheat Code Central ⁓ made a killing back then off of ad space just because of so many people like kids like us going to these websites. ⁓ but do we need them? Should they should we bring them back? Does it matter? It's or is it I mean, they're almost just like Easter eggs to begin, you know, for the most part, anyways. I think it's tough because I was saying nowadays you can just mod whatever you want, you know, on especially on PC, you know, you can just do whatever you want and someone will make something that just does whatever you wanted to do. so it's hard to say 'cause like we're still, I mean, technically still kind of getting stuff like that, even if it does still mods are different than cheat codes. But you know, you know, something for console players would be nice, I think. But also, it's tough to say because I mean with like with these big triple A fucking a hundred hour games, you know, it's games are you know yeah, games are easier now too. And games like you don't have to deal with there not being save but places to save. Like you're not living in the you know NES and password era and stuff like that. You don't really need it. Or having the Contra Yeah, Contra, like where you know, you need a bunch of lives 'cause the game's so hard and there's no way to restart because it's just an old game. Not really a thing anymore. Like the game design has moved beyond that. being a thing. So the only thing I see them being useful for is just like Easter egg. Here's the little things for you to mess around with, you know, secret mode or whatever like that. That doesn't but it like they would just the thing is they do just offer that to you in a different way that doesn't involve controller button presses to make it happen. Or resident evil mode, like they just make you beat the game a few times or beat it with a certain amount of time. It's like unlock yeah unlockable stuff. Yeah. And that's the thing, like it feels cheat ca like getting stuff Cosmetic stuff, whatever. It feels better to ⁓ earn it at by playing, you know, than like a cheat code giving it to you. But it it's if it's just for fun, I think it's fine. I just don't see it but I don't see it coming back. I don't think there's gonna be a resurgence f of ⁓ bring back cheat codes. I liked it when I was pressing buttons, you know. Like I think it's cool if a developer still sneaks one in here or there. ⁓ something to, you know, remind you of the good old days. But They the old days. I thought you were gonna mention the try to quote the office line if you get it wrong. Quoted the wire instead. Yeah. No, I don't know. I mean they were fun. Like I said, it's fun. The best examples of I the the ones that would stick out the most to me, Wickers was Tony Hawk and GTA, which were mostly just for fun. It was like ⁓ different mode, moon gravity mode, but that could have easily just been a little menu where you access it like Fun mode, you know, fun house mode or something like that. Or the for or the game we just played and our episode just came out ⁓ this week as we're recording it. Metal Warriors. Metal Warriors had it you could put in a cheat code to get that minigame at the end. ⁓ And that's fine. Yeah, absolutely. I don't think there were any other cheat codes for it. But that's what Gabe was saying is that there's a cheat code to access that ⁓ basketball mini game. ⁓ okay. That's cool. But ⁓ I don't know, maybe I there may be a game in my Steam library that has cheat codes in it. If they if I do if there is, I don't know what it is. Yeah. So I don't think anything I have has it. The problem with the GameCube version of Resident Evil Two had cheat codes in it. Yeah. The problem with looking at anything at retro and old and stuff like this, and that's something we try to like the kind of overcome with just having the retro game of the month be a thing where we're reviewing a game that's twenty to thirty years old. And talking shit about it. Of course, like, ⁓ it's an old game. Or talking about how great it is, like Iron Man. Yeah. It's r it's like a rose tinted glasses thing. Like, yeah, obviously it's old. And obviously at the time it was some stuff can be groundbreaking. And most of the stuff that was really groundbreaking, really good at the time when it came out, is still good today, but not everything holds up. And I think just like cheat codes is ⁓ you can look at the same lens, like, does it work? Does it hold up? Or do we need them? Right. It's easy to be like, ⁓ man, the good old days. I remember like I have Such good memories of playing Elder Scrolls for Oblivion. It's like probably it's one of my favorite games. It's definitely in my like Mount Rushmore of personal like best games of all time to me. But like that game, I think I mentioned this in one of the other episodes we talked about. ⁓ like a lot of people don't like it, you know? It's really janky. It's like it crashes all the time. It's not like it's not a perfect game. Yeah, right. But at the time I really liked it, you know. And so That's how I feel about Iron Man. I feel like you know, Iron Man X Wanna War. the best game you played. Naturally. ⁓ so you know and look, I loved it as a kid and I was right to do that because it's an amazing experience as an adult and we all agree. Did it have cheat? Had level ⁓ passwords. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, that's that's super long ass passwords that were really confusing. Yeah. So if you'll notice Jay has dropped out. ⁓ wait, no, he's coming back. Jay was not back now. He's been Jay's ⁓ having connection issues. ⁓ so I don't know. He's here right now. Maybe he's here. Kind of. ⁓ he's back. Yeah. Wow. Maybe. We did I was doing good for bulk of it. You missed the end. We're just I'm we ended risking my internet. All right. Play the outro when you possibly work. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Just start playing the outro. Yeah. Dooty. He's still his connection's been so bad it's still not good. I don't know why. I have good internet. I stream stuff all the time. That's what they all say. It's what they all say. My internet's good. I hear that excuse all the time playing fighting games online. ⁓ I had the best direction. I don't know what's going on. I didn't say the best. See, it's for some reason now it's working, but I just it just had a real bad dip. Mm. Yeah. An extended dip. Yeah. Thirty minute dip. Some podcaster. Man, I was here for most of that episode. Yeah, well I think that's my that's my conclusion is ⁓ cheat codes, they were cool, they were fun while they lasted. I don't think they kinda they're coming making a comeback and I don't think they have need to, ⁓ necessarily. But if you remember using cheat codes and writing cheat codes down and printing out cheat code books, leave a comment, talk about it in the comments below. What was your first game you cheat remember? Yeah. Who was the first person you cheated on to? Let us all know. Yeah, you can ⁓ leave a comment about ⁓ the codes that you remember, what you used them for, ⁓ stuff like that. Also check out ⁓ the ha high score challenge for next month, ⁓ which is Zero Wing. Zero Wing. For the Sega Genesis, also called the Sega Mega Drive, depending on where you live. Yeah. ⁓ but also remember specifically normal mode, player three, wrap it on. I'll put it on the screen. I think you have to go into the options to access this stuff. ⁓ but you'll see it on screen here, and I'll post about it in the Discord channel. So yeah, join our Discord so you can play. Now you're frozen. Now you're frozen too like Jay. No, ⁓ no, I'm fine. I'm fine on my screen. ⁓ join I'm Jay Discord so you can talk about games, you can talk about cheat codes, you can talk about ⁓ the game of the month that we have right now, which is Shadow Tower. And we're all loving it. From soft game, Keith's not gonna finish it already. Brian has said multiple times he's not gonna finish it, so I probably won't finish it. Jay I'm gonna finish it even though my internet won't allow me to say it. It's a hard game. And he's cheating too, so. I'm not cheating. I'm using a guide. Tune in next time for that episode, Shadow Tower and our my first from Soft Game. ⁓ My my internet came back just in time for the ending, guys. Good job. ⁓ you guys have anything else? ⁓ stay cheating. Yeah, keep cheating. In video games. Keep cheating and creeping. There we go. Stay cheating in video games. N'eping. Yeah. Not in everything else. Not on your homework. We don't know you don't your spouse or your boyfriend or your girlfriend or your partner. Tell us your favorite cheat code. Did you cheat ever in your life? Let us know in the comments. I guess. Let us know. Like Keep said, let us know. Who's the first person to get cheated on? Yeah, we're instead Who's the first person that who's the first person that cheated on you? Drop that below. We can have some creep therapy sessions going on. That holds. Cheating on me. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So I'm gonna bleep that with the Tony Hawk rescue. Sound and ⁓ no one's someone's gonna people are gonna think you said something much worse. Perfect. But you know, that's that's the show. Absolutely bye bye. ⁓ bye Jay. J beat us. I'm gonna go do P P. Yeah, I love cheating. At video games, just anywhere. Gang wars everywhere. Circus theme. CJ is a clown. Pedestrians are mostly fast food workers and clowns. Traffic is mostly fast food vehicles. Make everyone Elvis. Alright, let's end this quick. You're frozen. Where the hell did Keefe go? A better outline. I know tonight we just kinda wung it. Yeah. I think I think a good episode would be the blurry fucking Keefe. My camera has to focus. Hang on. Give it a second. Yeah. He's frozen. Look where he's frozen. Chugging Johnny. No. ⁓ he's gone again. Bye bye. Bye bye, Johnny. Creeping Johnny. ⁓ John Boy. Hello, John Boy. ⁓ he's moving. Hey, there he goes. I yeah. I'm just trying to give you all a frame for the end of the episode.