Latest / Cuff’s Basement / Bands Tim Hates part 2
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- 1:34Speaker 1: Yeah, well, okay, all right, So we're continuing my reverse
- 1:38Speaker 1: s tier list, the X Tier List, and I just
- 1:41Speaker 1: want to recap what we went over in part one.
- 1:45Speaker 1: So we have, well, starting at the bottom. A is
- 1:48Speaker 1: I genuinely really liked this band. It was Jerney and
- 1:50Speaker 1: Corn b Was. I kind of like them. I'm embarrassed
- 1:54Speaker 1: to admit. It was Sugar Ray and Avril Lavine. I
- 1:56Speaker 1: included Avril c Is. They're fine, They're not good, They're
- 1:59Speaker 1: not awful. I had the You Two, You two, the
- 2:02Speaker 1: White Stripes, the Red of Chili, Peppers, Brice Springsteen, NOA. Kahan,
- 2:05Speaker 1: and Dispatch d Was. I dislike them, but it doesn't
- 2:08Speaker 1: really bother me. James Taylor, Fish Usher and Limp Biscuit
- 2:12Speaker 1: f really awful. I truly hate them as the Lumineers
- 2:16Speaker 1: and X is one of the worst bands of all time.
- 2:18Speaker 1: One of my least favorite bands of all time. I
- 2:20Speaker 1: truly hate them with every fiber of my soul.
- 2:22Speaker 4: Was Coldplay, so right, especially these bands like a festival listening,
- 2:27Speaker 4: I have just specture, like pe like, what is this?
- 2:29Speaker 2: How do they how is this related?
- 2:31Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, all right, so we'll right have next.
- 2:36Speaker 2: All right for the second half.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Pitbull, Pitbull, Okay, Pete Boo. So we I saw Pitbull
- 2:48Speaker 1: live at Preakness, and it was the most bizarre concert
- 2:52Speaker 1: I've ever been to because he he just he didn't
- 2:56Speaker 1: do his own music. He did a couple of his
- 2:57Speaker 1: own songs, but he just covered like every radio hit
- 3:01Speaker 1: of the moment, like if you turned on Kiss one
- 3:03Speaker 1: to eight at that time, it was like twenty eleven,
- 3:06Speaker 1: every song that would be playing at that time when
- 3:09Speaker 1: you turn on the radio, he covered all of those songs.
- 3:11Speaker 1: It was so weird that he chose to do that,
- 3:16Speaker 1: and I think he was. Yeah, I think he's really bad.
- 3:22Speaker 1: I would say, like he doesn't bother me, but like
- 3:26Speaker 1: he's so annoying in that song. Yea, yeah, I haven't
- 3:31Speaker 1: put him at f uh. But I did want to
- 3:35Speaker 1: add two things from that Preaknis concert. Andy was with
- 3:38Speaker 1: me and he was very drunk, and the two quotes
- 3:41Speaker 1: that we always reference was Andy started yelling Pete boo
- 3:47Speaker 1: and then later on he yelled out really loud greatest
- 3:51Speaker 1: I didn't say it greatest ever, and a bunch of
- 3:55Speaker 1: people turn around and looked at him like, what, like
- 3:58Speaker 1: even Pitbull doesn't think that. Pitbull don't think that.
- 4:02Speaker 2: Uh for fact checking, he did not submit.
- 4:05Speaker 1: Wow, okay, who submitted Pibule?
- 4:08Speaker 2: That was Joe Norton.
- 4:09Speaker 1: Awesome, Ben, What do you think of people?
- 4:13Speaker 3: I pretty much agree. I mean, there's never been a
- 4:17Speaker 3: Pippule song that.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Right, right, but there's never Sorry, you just don't. I
- 4:26Speaker 1: muted you for a second by accident. You said there's
- 4:28Speaker 1: never been a song by Pitbull that that everyone then
- 4:32Speaker 1: anyone likes, and I agree with you.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Oh, but he's just kind of charming. He's fun like
- 4:41Speaker 3: I don't know, he just he gets a past from me,
- 4:44Speaker 3: Like he all the irritation I have for cold Play
- 4:48Speaker 3: or Luminate any of these bands and bitches, Like he
- 4:49Speaker 3: hasn't bothered.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Me in anyway.
- 4:52Speaker 3: I don't almost compare him to Guy Fiery, Like he's
- 4:54Speaker 3: so ridiculous that I kind of just can find him funny.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like horseshoes theory, kind of like I
- 5:01Speaker 1: love Guy because he's so hateable. Yes, so yeah, But Ryan,
- 5:06Speaker 1: what do you think of mister Worldwide?
- 5:11Speaker 4: I always thought he was just like he never had
- 5:13Speaker 4: music of his own I always thought he was just
- 5:15Speaker 4: feature on everything.
- 5:16Speaker 2: That was my theory. I never imagined he had.
- 5:18Speaker 4: His own album, so I was surprised when doing this
- 5:20Speaker 4: that he did have his own albums.
- 5:23Speaker 2: I don't really care for him. It's fine.
- 5:26Speaker 1: This is the lowes. This is the lowest anyone has
- 5:28Speaker 1: been on Ryan's list so far.
- 5:32Speaker 2: I just yeah, I have yeah, all right, what do
- 5:36Speaker 2: we have next? Alrighty up? Next? This is uh the Beatles.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Okay, right, So I included the Beatles because I don't
- 5:48Speaker 1: want everyone to think that I'm a hipster, because it's
- 5:51Speaker 1: not about I'm not a hipster. I don't hate things
- 5:53Speaker 1: because they're popular. I hate things because they're bad. Anybody
- 5:57Speaker 1: who says that they hate the Beatles is a hipster
- 5:59Speaker 1: and is a loser. The Beatles are amazing. They have
- 6:02Speaker 1: like a thousand good songs. I'm not even one of
- 6:05Speaker 1: those people that are are like, oh, I'd rather the
- 6:07Speaker 1: Rolling Stones and the Beatles. No, I think the Beatles
- 6:09Speaker 1: are amazing. So the Beatles are slam dunk in the
- 6:12Speaker 1: A category. Ben or Ryand you disagree with that.
- 6:20Speaker 3: You could say, I, uh, I'm kind of a Beatles
- 6:25Speaker 3: hipster hater. Not that like not because I'm like, oh,
- 6:29Speaker 3: the Rolling Stones are burning anything like that. I don't know.
- 6:32Speaker 3: The Beatles are just so. And I'm a hypocrite because
- 6:37Speaker 3: I you know, I love Michael Jackson, and he's also
- 6:40Speaker 3: just way overplayed and just completely like a caricature of himself. So,
- 6:48Speaker 3: but that's what I feel about the Beatles.
- 6:49Speaker 2: They're just so.
- 6:51Speaker 3: I don't know, just every song you've heard so many times.
- 6:54Speaker 1: It's just But I think that the Beatles are the
- 6:56Speaker 1: most popular rock band of all time. But I think
- 6:58Speaker 1: they're properly rated. I think that they have like fifty
- 7:02Speaker 1: really good songs, so I just can't. I can't argue
- 7:08Speaker 1: with that. Like the what was the the Beatles one
- 7:11Speaker 1: album was all of their number one hits. It's it's
- 7:14Speaker 1: so good.
- 7:15Speaker 2: It's like twenty seven songs.
- 7:17Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's so good. So I can't. I mean,
- 7:21Speaker 1: they are like overexposed just because they're the biggest fan
- 7:25Speaker 1: of all time, but I can't argue with their with
- 7:29Speaker 1: their evaluation in pop culture. Ryan, what do you think?
- 7:33Speaker 2: Yeah, I love the Beatles.
- 7:34Speaker 4: Obviously we did it before a while back, but huge
- 7:37Speaker 4: George fan. Also amazing for a group that really wasn't together,
- 7:42Speaker 4: super super long, how many phases they had and like
- 7:46Speaker 4: changes in style.
- 7:49Speaker 3: Yeah, my mother is actually in England as we speak,
- 7:55Speaker 3: and the entire reason her and Elliott went was to
- 7:58Speaker 3: do Like the Beatles tour.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Wow. So I'm gonna took Like the Beatles for the
- 8:04Speaker 1: rest of the podcast.
- 8:08Speaker 2: I'm going to cross Happy Road. Let's stand here for
- 8:10Speaker 2: a picture.
- 8:12Speaker 1: Yes, I just included them to show you. I'm not
- 8:14Speaker 1: a hipster, but I love the Beatles. What's the next one?
- 8:17Speaker 2: Next one is Vampire Weekend.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Vampire Weekend. It is I'm gonna say, they're in a
- 8:29Speaker 1: I really like so giving Up the Gun. But I
- 8:35Speaker 1: saw a Vampire Weekend live on SNL and they performed
- 8:37Speaker 1: giving Up the Gun and I was legitimately blown away.
- 8:40Speaker 1: And then I looked up the music video and it's
- 8:42Speaker 1: with Jake jollen Hall. It's like they're playing tennis. I
- 8:46Speaker 1: love giving Up the Gun. I saw them they were
- 8:49Speaker 1: the co headliner. When I saw not the cohead they
- 8:52Speaker 1: were kind of like the second headliner when I went
- 8:54Speaker 1: to Boston, calling the third headliner third tier of Sublime,
- 8:58Speaker 1: and that's why I went. And then the second it
- 9:00Speaker 1: was Vampire Weekend, and then the first was Dave Matthews.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I like Vampire Weekend. I have no issue with them.
- 9:05Speaker 1: I think that they're talented, and I think they're properly rated,
- 9:10Speaker 1: like properly popular and rated. Ben.
- 9:14Speaker 3: I have no opinion. I know I would recognize your
- 9:17Speaker 3: song as if I could if I heard them, But
- 9:19Speaker 3: I can't think of a single song by them.
- 9:21Speaker 1: Uh, they have that song like Mary had a Little Lamb,
- 9:25Speaker 1: Little little Lamb, Mary had a little What do you think, Ryan?
- 9:32Speaker 4: I have never really heard their songs. Ok So, I've
- 9:36Speaker 4: heard the name a million times. The album cover is
- 9:39Speaker 4: very famous with the woman, the photograph of the woman.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen the name.
- 9:44Speaker 4: I've never heard the music again, not a refusal, I've
- 9:47Speaker 4: just not heard it.
- 9:48Speaker 1: Okay, I'm trying to look at Portshata Cousins giving Up
- 9:52Speaker 1: the Gun, Holiday, White Sky Run, Yeah, Hey Unbelievers, Sunflower,
- 9:58Speaker 1: This Life, apricorn At.
- 10:03Speaker 2: It's already been something that I've seen and just can't
- 10:05Speaker 2: put it together.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Those are their singles, but that the album with Giving
- 10:10Speaker 1: Up the Gun and hort Shota, I really love. What
- 10:13Speaker 1: is the name of that album?
- 10:19Speaker 5: I don't know, it doesn't matter, but yeah, I Had
- 10:23Speaker 5: a Little Lamb, Mary Had a Little Lamb is a
- 10:26Speaker 5: great album by them, So giving.
- 10:31Speaker 1: Up the Gun is twenty ten. It is on Contra.
- 10:36Speaker 1: That's what I was trying to think of. Contra.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Oh.
- 10:38Speaker 1: And also that's the album with the woman on the cover. Ryan,
- 10:42Speaker 1: that's a great album. But in Horn Shatta is on
- 10:44Speaker 1: that album. So the the the line judge in the
- 10:50Speaker 1: tennis music video for Giving Up the Gun is Riza
- 10:56Speaker 1: and J. J. Shallenhall is playing tennis against a woman
- 10:59Speaker 1: and the line judge, for whatever reason is Resis.
- 11:01Speaker 3: So I enjoy that t was just inducted at the
- 11:05Speaker 3: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
- 11:08Speaker 1: At the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke,
- 11:11Speaker 1: and I don't know how like rap gets incorporated in that,
- 11:14Speaker 1: but obviously I support that because Wu Tang.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Is great ice cube.
- 11:18Speaker 4: When they inducted n w A, that was the like,
- 11:21Speaker 4: the whole purpose of his speech was people think we
- 11:23Speaker 4: shouldn't be here because we're rap, and he's like, let me.
- 11:26Speaker 3: That's why. And that boycott of the Grammy that year
- 11:29Speaker 3: because he was like, why is there a best Rap album?
- 11:31Speaker 3: And then there's like the rappers weren't weren't eligible for
- 11:35Speaker 3: the Best Album.
- 11:36Speaker 4: Yep, yeah, yeah, a lot of learning those institutions have
- 11:42Speaker 4: to do, right.
- 11:45Speaker 1: I think they're all fine. I think all I'm I'm
- 11:49Speaker 1: like the opposite of what everybody thinks. Now. I think
- 11:51Speaker 1: all of our institutions are in great shape and I
- 11:53Speaker 1: fully trust them.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Up next, Harry Styles.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Harry Style. Uh so, I like one direction. I don't
- 12:05Speaker 1: really like Harry Styles. I think he's kind of a
- 12:07Speaker 1: twat and I don't like the storyline of how he ended.
- 12:12Speaker 2: Uh.
- 12:12Speaker 1: Jason Bateman's not Jason Bateman SNL guy, what's his name?
- 12:18Speaker 1: Jason Sudeikis's marriage. Oh so, I just think he kind
- 12:24Speaker 1: of sucks and I don't really now he's like trying
- 12:28Speaker 1: to be an actor, right.
- 12:31Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, yeah.
- 12:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna say d but maybe C. I don't really
- 12:38Speaker 1: like he. I don't think about Harry Styles. He's nothing
- 12:41Speaker 1: to me. But I don't really like him. But I
- 12:43Speaker 1: do like one direction, So maybe you should be Maybe
- 12:46Speaker 1: you should be, c Ben.
- 12:51Speaker 3: I don't have a lot of opinion on it. So
- 12:55Speaker 3: I don't want direction. I like story of my life
- 12:57Speaker 3: by one direction.
- 12:58Speaker 1: Sort of my life. I like, girl, what's the girl?
- 13:03Speaker 1: You know you're beautiful? That's what makes me beautiful, but yep,
- 13:07Speaker 1: Bear Ben. For those that don't know, listeners, we have
- 13:13Speaker 1: talked about how Ben. You know, Ben is literally Jewish.
- 13:16Speaker 1: He that's his religion he was raised in and his ethnicity.
- 13:20Speaker 1: I assume you're like, what is your what is your
- 13:25Speaker 1: your family's origin in the world, Like are what are
- 13:30Speaker 1: your ancestors?
- 13:30Speaker 3: Do you know Lithuanian, Ukrainian and like Russian?
- 13:36Speaker 1: Okay, Ben culturally is black. We've always made that joke
- 13:40Speaker 1: for years and just when I when when Ryan said
- 13:44Speaker 1: Harry Styles, I was like, Ben's is not even gonna
- 13:47Speaker 1: like if you if you asked a black person on
- 13:49Speaker 1: the street tell me your thoughts in Harry Styles, they'd
- 13:51Speaker 1: be like who And That's what I imagine Ben's reaction
- 13:54Speaker 1: would be. And I was right. So who do we
- 13:59Speaker 1: got next?
- 14:01Speaker 2: We have.
- 14:06Speaker 4: Another two person submission OAR, which I just found. O
- 14:10Speaker 4: Today's stands for of a Revolution.
- 14:15Speaker 1: So OAR is gonna be a I absolutely love OAR.
- 14:19Speaker 1: I love their music, I love everything about the band.
- 14:23Speaker 1: Why they're probably on this list is because I hate
- 14:26Speaker 1: OAR fans. I hate them every like college frat douche
- 14:31Speaker 1: bro that was my age that would wear like a
- 14:36Speaker 1: backwards trucker hat and we'd be playing beer pong like
- 14:38Speaker 1: they loved OAR and people like the college frat douche
- 14:43Speaker 1: that brought a guitar to school, And Joe was arguing
- 14:47Speaker 1: about this with me. I was like, if you brought
- 14:50Speaker 1: a guitar to school, like fuck you, and he was like, well,
- 14:55Speaker 1: they're not They're not allowed to play guitar because you're
- 14:57Speaker 1: the arbitrator of rules. And I said, no, no, no, They're
- 15:00Speaker 1: free to bring a guitar because I can't stop them,
- 15:02Speaker 1: and I'm free to hate them. That's how life works.
- 15:06Speaker 1: That's how life works. There's no argument. I'm not the
- 15:08Speaker 1: arbitrator of anything. No one wants to listen to you
- 15:11Speaker 1: play guitar, and they would inevitably play an Oar song,
- 15:15Speaker 1: like in the hallway or in their room with the
- 15:17Speaker 1: door open. And then when when aim existed and we'd
- 15:21Speaker 1: go on college break for Thanksgiving, everybody would put lyrics
- 15:24Speaker 1: to home by Oars their away message. And it's just
- 15:27Speaker 1: like he But I love OAR. I love the three
- 15:33Speaker 1: am crazy game of poker, mister Brown. I I'm sure
- 15:40Speaker 1: there's songs. Hey girl, o R is fucking great. I'm
- 15:43Speaker 1: actually gonna see them live this year. Love OAR hate
- 15:47Speaker 1: their fans.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Agree.
- 15:51Speaker 3: I like OAR more as I get older because and
- 15:56Speaker 3: maybe I've done this kind of on purpose to like, so,
- 15:59Speaker 3: growing up, I did associate them with like Dave, which
- 16:02Speaker 3: I you and I shared a hatred for. But I
- 16:07Speaker 3: also see like a very sublime like element to I are.
- 16:11Speaker 3: I can see they clearly are like I'm sure they're
- 16:14Speaker 3: they're massive sublime fit just by the way their music sounds,
- 16:19Speaker 3: and like when I think of them in that way,
- 16:21Speaker 3: I really like that. When I think of them as
- 16:24Speaker 3: like the Trugger hat you know two Abercrombie Polos popped
- 16:28Speaker 3: two thousand and three, I don't like that.
- 16:30Speaker 1: No, I agree, Ryan, What do you think.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Not I heard a single song by though?
- 16:37Speaker 1: Really wow, especially being of our age, that's like odd,
- 16:41Speaker 1: that's bizarre.
- 16:41Speaker 4: I mean, I think what you guys are saying about
- 16:43Speaker 4: Dispatch because I actually never heard Dispatch either. I just
- 16:47Speaker 4: I mean, being just a one year older that that
- 16:49Speaker 4: can sometimes just be the difference. I'm not saying it's
- 16:52Speaker 4: an excuse. I just never really came across them. The
- 16:56Speaker 4: only three AM I will ever know is Matchbox twenty,
- 16:58Speaker 4: and that's all.
- 16:59Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is.
- 17:00Speaker 1: There must be lonely. Are they on this list?
- 17:03Speaker 2: Is?
- 17:03Speaker 6: Uh?
- 17:04Speaker 3: Ryan was kind of a city kid though, like I'm saying,
- 17:06Speaker 3: this is giving Ryan props, Like I feel like, uh,
- 17:10Speaker 3: I feel like it is extremely suburban.
- 17:17Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off.
- 17:18Speaker 3: Ran was way more of a city kid than we
- 17:19Speaker 3: were at least.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Real question is Matchbox twenty on this list? Ryan? It's
- 17:25Speaker 1: not okay? Matchbox twenty never understood them? Like I don't,
- 17:30Speaker 1: I don't hate them, I'm apathetic, but what why were
- 17:34Speaker 1: they popular?
- 17:35Speaker 2: Like?
- 17:35Speaker 1: What? Who really liked the Shannon told me there's a
- 17:38Speaker 1: guy that went to school with her whose screen name
- 17:40Speaker 1: was Rod Box twenty because he was a huge Maxbox
- 17:43Speaker 1: twenty fan and his name was Rod?
- 17:46Speaker 2: What?
- 17:46Speaker 1: Like, who are you?
- 17:48Speaker 2: Can you get him on here?
- 17:49Speaker 1: That's like, are you a serial killer? Who cares about
- 17:51Speaker 1: Matchbox twenty that much?
- 17:53Speaker 7: I don't think that was normal, but I think, yeah,
- 17:59Speaker 7: I want to most part, I mean.
- 18:06Speaker 1: Make it real, let's forget about it.
- 18:10Speaker 4: I get the impression it was like think of when
- 18:12Speaker 4: like pop exploded nearly two thousands with like boy bands
- 18:16Speaker 4: and like Britney Spears they.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Were nineties, they were like ninety six ninety seven.
- 18:20Speaker 4: I think what happened is this they were like the
- 18:23Speaker 4: more popularized version of grunge. It was like them then
- 18:26Speaker 4: like three Doors Down type were like grunge sound, not
- 18:30Speaker 4: as heavy lyrics stuff like that.
- 18:32Speaker 2: That's why I get the question is how.
- 18:33Speaker 1: They fair enough? Who we got next?
- 18:37Speaker 4: Three Am was there? Jeremy up next? Another dual submission
- 18:44Speaker 4: from Mumford and Sons.
- 18:47Speaker 1: Oh okay, so Mumford and Sons. They're just they're the
- 18:51Speaker 1: lumineers to me, but they're probably a better lumineers and
- 18:56Speaker 1: there are So aren't they Irish? Or am I making
- 18:59Speaker 1: that up?
- 19:00Speaker 2: I believe they are.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Yes, they're from They're an English rock band. But I
- 19:05Speaker 1: thought he was from Ireland. No, he's from the He's
- 19:07Speaker 1: from the UK. So I thought they were Irish, But
- 19:11Speaker 1: uh no, Like I don't. I'm kind of apathetic. I
- 19:14Speaker 1: don't hate them, kind of apathetic towards them. I'm gonna
- 19:18Speaker 1: say they're like a d to me, they'd be like
- 19:23Speaker 1: a matchbox twenty Uh what it ben? Do you know
- 19:27Speaker 1: even know who they are?
- 19:30Speaker 3: So to your point before, I can't name a single
- 19:32Speaker 3: mum for in his soun song. However, I don't like them.
- 19:35Speaker 3: I know that their lead singer has gotten into like libertarian,
- 19:39Speaker 3: anti government politics, which I don't agree with, So right there,
- 19:44Speaker 3: I'm giving them a low grade.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean yeah, I didn't know that, but
- 19:53Speaker 1: sure that doesn't endear them to me in any way. Ryan,
- 19:55Speaker 1: do you like them?
- 19:57Speaker 2: I like them?
- 19:59Speaker 4: Mark if the leads singer did the soundtrack for Inside
- 20:02Speaker 4: Lewin Davis, which I.
- 20:03Speaker 1: Love Mac Momfin.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Mack.
- 20:09Speaker 1: How's Momfin doing? But they had.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Married to Kerry Mulligan.
- 20:15Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, who I also don't like. I don't like
- 20:17Speaker 1: Carry Mulligan. She is one of the main characters in
- 20:21Speaker 1: the new season of Beef, which is good. By the way.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Then did you watch Beef Season one?
- 20:25Speaker 3: Mm?
- 20:27Speaker 1: No, it was on Netflix. It was very good. It
- 20:30Speaker 1: was about just two people that like get in a
- 20:33Speaker 1: car accident or something and they absolutely hate each other
- 20:35Speaker 1: and try to ruin each other's lives over it. This
- 20:37Speaker 1: one is more about like affordability and class differences. But
- 20:42Speaker 1: it's like Carrie Mulligan and what's his name, Oscar Isaac
- 20:46Speaker 1: are the wealthy quote unquote people. But it shows that, yeah,
- 20:51Speaker 1: it shows that they actually don't have any money like
- 20:54Speaker 1: they're because they're more successful, but they're spending all their
- 20:57Speaker 1: money so they're still broke. And and then Hayley Spanny
- 21:00Speaker 1: is like the poor girl that didn't graduate high school.
- 21:04Speaker 1: So it's it's interesting for sure, But moffat has they
- 21:08Speaker 1: have the single? You would you would recognize this, it's
- 21:12Speaker 1: it's the Camptown races like Campdown Ladies and dude, uh
- 21:17Speaker 1: dude h Campdown Races on Eylan Oh the dude day
- 21:21Speaker 1: that's Mumford incense.
- 21:25Speaker 2: You hate so much? Wow?
- 21:27Speaker 3: You know what that reminds me of? Shout out. I
- 21:30Speaker 3: think it's like a nineteen ninety eight movie Tanging Lanes
- 21:33Speaker 3: with Ben Affleck and Sam Jackson.
- 21:35Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I love it.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Yeah, what's thing only where Sam Jackson is the psychotic neighbor.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Oh Lakeview Terras.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Maybe it's just like about like a bad neighbor experience
- 21:46Speaker 1: in Sam Jackson's the villain. He does. He's a great villain.
- 21:50Speaker 2: He's very good.
- 21:51Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, what's next?
- 21:54Speaker 2: Up next is a big one here, Taylor Swift.
- 22:04Speaker 1: My computers just froze. Okay, all right, we're better, you
- 22:06Speaker 1: can hear me, right, yep, yep, okay, sorry my computer
- 22:09Speaker 1: for us for a second. This is a really good question.
- 22:12Speaker 1: So Taylor Swift. It's hard for me to evaluate Taylor
- 22:14Speaker 1: Swift because do I dislike Taylor Swift in anyway? No,
- 22:18Speaker 1: I don't. Do I like Taylor Swift. Yeah, I like
- 22:20Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. She's fine. Does she have good songs? Yes,
- 22:24Speaker 1: she has good songs. She has many good songs that
- 22:26Speaker 1: are catchy and I like them. They're fine. Do I
- 22:30Speaker 1: think she's properly rated? No, because Taylor Swift is the
- 22:34Speaker 1: biggest celebrity musician since Michael Jackson, and that's bizarre to me. Literally,
- 22:41Speaker 1: since like Michael Jackson in the eighties, there has not
- 22:44Speaker 1: been a musician that is this big and loved and successful.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Uh So, I just kind of don't get it. But
- 22:53Speaker 1: I do like Taylor Swift, So I'm gonna say she's
- 22:57Speaker 1: a C for me. Then have you heard of Taylor Swift?
- 23:02Speaker 3: No, No, I would agree with that. I think I think,
- 23:06Speaker 3: like the only negative thing I can really say is
- 23:09Speaker 3: what you just said. I think like she's just so
- 23:13Speaker 3: like worshiped. It just seems weird to me. The whole
- 23:16Speaker 3: thing again, of like, like I hear stories where people
- 23:20Speaker 3: will like, people will like fly to Austria to see
- 23:24Speaker 3: her in Austria because it's cheaper to see her there
- 23:27Speaker 3: that it is to go in California. Yeah, yep, forever,
- 23:31Speaker 3: you know, wherever. And I just I just don't understand.
- 23:34Speaker 3: I don't understand how people just have like five thousand
- 23:37Speaker 3: dollars to go to a concert, just like casually.
- 23:41Speaker 1: I also will say about Tyler Swift that Bridget ten
- 23:45Speaker 1: out of ten like sir, and also my nine year
- 23:48Speaker 1: old knee or no, she's not nine, My ten year
- 23:52Speaker 1: old niece, eleven year old niece. Eleven year old niece
- 23:55Speaker 1: also ten out of ten like sir. So when like
- 23:59Speaker 1: of forty, I'm not gonna say Bridget's age forty something
- 24:03Speaker 1: year old woman and a nine year or eleven year
- 24:07Speaker 1: old both love an artist. That's like a really good sign.
- 24:12Speaker 3: She seems like a good person. I mean she's yes,
- 24:15Speaker 3: for like, uh, she takes she takes really good care
- 24:18Speaker 3: of all her staff like she supposedly will, just like
- 24:22Speaker 3: just like after a concert, just like give bonus to
- 24:24Speaker 3: just walk around giving cash to everyone there. She's made
- 24:29Speaker 3: fifty billion dollars, so here's like ten thousand for everyone here.
- 24:32Speaker 1: She's very smart about her fans and her treatment of
- 24:34Speaker 1: her fans. Yeah, and also I sang on the podcast
- 24:38Speaker 1: for the Christmas episode It's a Christmas tree foam, shooting
- 24:42Speaker 1: drugs in my mom and eating up an eggplant pum so.
- 24:47Speaker 1: I like that song. Right. How do you feel about
- 24:50Speaker 1: t Swift? You said she's you just texted me she's
- 24:52Speaker 1: a bit.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Why would I like, why would I text it? Like
- 24:57Speaker 4: during it, like like what's the point love to?
- 24:59Speaker 2: Yes?
- 25:00Speaker 4: Uh, it is amazing how she has retained this level
- 25:05Speaker 4: of success and fames. I feel like even people like
- 25:10Speaker 4: i'd even see say Tim even after Michael Jackson, probably
- 25:14Speaker 4: Britney spears, but that as a true peak lasted maybe
- 25:18Speaker 4: three years.
- 25:20Speaker 1: Just bigger than Brittany in my opinion.
- 25:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the reason is I.
- 25:26Speaker 3: Think in Sync was bigger than Brittany. I think Eminem
- 25:29Speaker 3: is probably bigger than Brittany.
- 25:31Speaker 2: Yes, in the two thousands.
- 25:35Speaker 4: It's kind of amazed me that she's lasted this long
- 25:38Speaker 4: in this era with like social media where like yeah,
- 25:43Speaker 4: like anything could ruin you in a minute, and it's
- 25:46Speaker 4: kind of surprising.
- 25:46Speaker 2: I also do genuinely love her music. I think she's
- 25:49Speaker 2: very good.
- 25:49Speaker 4: I think she even has to me like pops on
- 25:52Speaker 4: and I'm like why isn't this like a single? Like
- 25:54Speaker 4: why isn't this on a massive fucking hit like Getaway
- 25:58Speaker 4: Car or something like that. I'm just so so prized
- 26:00Speaker 4: by that kind of stuff.
- 26:01Speaker 1: She plays guitar and writes her own music, you know, like.
- 26:07Speaker 2: Props for that, right, I think.
- 26:10Speaker 4: I think, like I think, you know, you know what,
- 26:13Speaker 4: the maybe the Kanye thing before that, I think a
- 26:16Speaker 4: lot of her credibility was kind of like put on blasts.
- 26:18Speaker 4: So I think she was like, Okay, I'm going to
- 26:20Speaker 4: fucking answer it, and that I mean, yeah, I mean
- 26:26Speaker 4: there's some things of course I don't love, but overall,
- 26:29Speaker 4: like if it's a new album by her, I'm gonna
- 26:31Speaker 4: give it a listen.
- 26:32Speaker 1: Also, I know that we're not supposed to be This
- 26:34Speaker 1: isn't a podcast to evaluate women's feel physical appearance. But
- 26:37Speaker 1: she's like getting hotter with age in my opinion, which
- 26:41Speaker 1: is kind of weird. Like I think she's better looking
- 26:43Speaker 1: now than she was ten years ago.
- 26:47Speaker 3: I think she's hot. I really liked her.
- 26:50Speaker 8: What was that movie she plays like like a cheerleader
- 26:55Speaker 8: in Solo.
- 26:59Speaker 3: I've never seen Solo. I don't think I could get
- 27:04Speaker 3: through it.
- 27:05Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't like Silo as.
- 27:07Speaker 3: Tim mill is a very sensitive equal matter. Okay, that
- 27:11Speaker 3: would really disturb me.
- 27:13Speaker 1: Yeah no, but it was No, it wasn't solid. She
- 27:15Speaker 1: was in that movie that was directed by Todd Solins. No,
- 27:20Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about, Ben, but I
- 27:22Speaker 1: I believe you.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I know she was in like that.
- 27:27Speaker 3: I think it was called Valentine's Oh oh yeah, like
- 27:32Speaker 3: one of those let's just not even try and make
- 27:35Speaker 3: a billion billion dollars.
- 27:37Speaker 1: She was so when she was on SNL, I really
- 27:40Speaker 1: wanted to like her, and she was just not good.
- 27:43Speaker 1: Like I will say, her attempts at acting have been bad.
- 27:45Speaker 1: She was in Cats. I wanted to like her. I
- 27:48Speaker 1: was rooting for her on SNL and she was not good.
- 27:52Speaker 1: But insight, I.
- 27:53Speaker 4: Mean, just like you gotta Laane go with it, Like
- 27:57Speaker 4: I know, some people can spread out and be good
- 27:59Speaker 4: actors who are musicians.
- 28:00Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm like, it just doesn't work. But yeah, he
- 28:05Speaker 2: was really good.
- 28:07Speaker 1: She's all that. All right, what do we go next?
- 28:09Speaker 4: Up next? This was a really funny submission. I thought
- 28:17Speaker 4: it was a joke, but maybe not. It is Beyonce
- 28:20Speaker 4: Knowles Carter. We did entire two episodes about this and
- 28:26Speaker 4: your statement at the beginning, you said, I like Beyonce.
- 28:30Speaker 2: Now I'm a fan.
- 28:32Speaker 1: I didn't get it was like Bruce Springsteen kind of
- 28:34Speaker 1: like I didn't get Beyonce. I didn't understand why she
- 28:36Speaker 1: was so popular. I understand that she's probably like the
- 28:40Speaker 1: most on a Tailor Swift level, the most successful black
- 28:46Speaker 1: female artist ever, right.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Whitney easily, But yeah, it last. I mean obviously know
- 28:55Speaker 2: with Whitney's other things.
- 28:56Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think like it wasn't like
- 28:58Speaker 1: it was never a cultural event for every woman in
- 29:01Speaker 1: between like twenty and forty to go see Whitney Houston concert.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Yeah, you're probably right.
- 29:06Speaker 1: So, and then I listened to all of her music
- 29:08Speaker 1: because Shannon Leary made me, and I respect Beyonce. I mean,
- 29:12Speaker 1: there's a lot of her songs that I think are garbage,
- 29:14Speaker 1: but she has a lot of good songs. I think
- 29:17Speaker 1: she has a lot of talent. So I'm gonna say, oof,
- 29:23Speaker 1: she's like a b er in A. I'm gonna say
- 29:26Speaker 1: so b is I'm embarrassed to admit I like them.
- 29:29Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Beyonce in A because I'm not I'm
- 29:32Speaker 1: not embarrassed to say that like Sugar Ray is embarrassing.
- 29:36Speaker 1: That's fair to say Sugar Ray is embarrassed. Avril Levine
- 29:38Speaker 1: is embarssed.
- 29:39Speaker 2: My tattoos removed.
- 29:41Speaker 1: You're saying, yeah, Beyonce's Yeah, I like Beyonce. She's an e.
- 29:45Speaker 3: I Like's child more than I like Beyonce's solo work.
- 29:49Speaker 1: That's a hot take, but okay, that's not crazy, but
- 29:52Speaker 1: I think it's great. Ay, there was some movie that
- 29:57Speaker 1: just came out, directed by Tyler Perry that I was
- 29:59Speaker 1: reading about that starring Kelly Rowland, and I was like,
- 30:02Speaker 1: this is probably so bad. And I read her review
- 30:06Speaker 1: of it, and a critic said, nothing in this movie
- 30:10Speaker 1: resembles real life, which I love, like the way, the plot,
- 30:13Speaker 1: the characters, the dialogue. Nothing in this movie resembles real
- 30:18Speaker 1: life movie.
- 30:20Speaker 3: Kelly Freddy versus Jason.
- 30:22Speaker 1: I mean, of course she calls Freddy the F word.
- 30:26Speaker 1: I absolutely love that moment.
- 30:28Speaker 3: But yeah, well he makes a racial commentary to her too.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Yes, he sure does remember it, he sure does.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Freddy not a good guy, turns out.
- 30:40Speaker 1: Turns out it turns out turns out serial killer, pedophile,
- 30:44Speaker 1: not a good guy.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Who was let off for a paperwork issue and.
- 30:51Speaker 1: Freddy like raped and murdered dozens of children and there
- 30:54Speaker 1: was like a paperwork loophole and they just let them out.
- 30:58Speaker 4: If I keep telling you guys that you have to
- 31:00Speaker 4: watch the Freddie Nightmares TV show on two because the
- 31:02Speaker 4: first episode is showing the court case and he's wearing
- 31:05Speaker 4: the costume on trial.
- 31:07Speaker 1: He's like laughing at the parent.
- 31:09Speaker 3: I feel like you need to come over your house
- 31:10Speaker 3: and watch that with you.
- 31:11Speaker 2: Sometimes.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Oh we sho like get high and watch that.
- 31:14Speaker 3: Yeah, take some gummies, take some gumpies and watch watch that.
- 31:17Speaker 4: Quality drops pretty quick, but the first episode's pretty solid.
- 31:20Speaker 2: But I also think he's funny. He laughs. We watched
- 31:22Speaker 2: out the court room.
- 31:23Speaker 1: My favor one of my favorite watching things high moment
- 31:26Speaker 1: ever was when I lived in Cambridge and alewife and
- 31:29Speaker 1: Ben was visiting from Arizona and we got high and
- 31:32Speaker 1: watched Steve Rule And that was like the first time
- 31:34Speaker 1: Ben had really watched it, and I don't think i'd
- 31:36Speaker 1: ever seen Ben laugh that hard. And specifically when he
- 31:39Speaker 1: goes to the seafood restaurant and he said, luckily, we
- 31:42Speaker 1: got a restaurant right here. It's called Del Grengos and
- 31:45Speaker 1: it's it's called del Zano's and I remember Ben just
- 31:47Speaker 1: like lost it when he said that.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Well, you know, when you laughed so hard, it's like
- 31:51Speaker 3: kind of scary because you can't breathe.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Yes, you like get dizzy because you laugh so hard.
- 31:54Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that was that moment.
- 31:56Speaker 1: Oh that's so good, so good, amazing. All right, what
- 32:01Speaker 1: have we got?
- 32:03Speaker 2: Yance is amazing, by the way, I should just put
- 32:05Speaker 2: them in there.
- 32:06Speaker 1: Well no, well you obviously I wasn't even gonna ask you.
- 32:08Speaker 1: You love Beyonce and Ben, you know you you understand it.
- 32:13Speaker 2: This next one is from Marine. It is the Beach Boys.
- 32:17Speaker 1: The Beach Boys. Yeah, that's a good question. I don't
- 32:21Speaker 1: really like their music. I respect them, and I know
- 32:25Speaker 1: people think Brian Wilson is legitimately a genius. I don't
- 32:33Speaker 1: really like. They have some good songs, but I just don't.
- 32:36Speaker 1: I don't get it. It's all like that surf rock vibe.
- 32:39Speaker 1: It's all very kind of the same to me, and
- 32:42Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think there's anything about them that
- 32:44Speaker 1: is like genius to me, but people disagree. I would
- 32:50Speaker 1: say they're fine, they would be in there fine. I
- 32:54Speaker 1: like some of their songs, but yeah, what Ben.
- 33:00Speaker 3: I agree a lot of these, a lot of these,
- 33:01Speaker 3: like the commonality is like a lot of the is
- 33:03Speaker 3: just like I feel like they have no heart like
- 33:07Speaker 3: you were saying, like no edge.
- 33:08Speaker 2: No like.
- 33:10Speaker 1: I actually I actually love baron Naked Ladies and the
- 33:14Speaker 1: song Brian Wilson by Bare Naked Ladies I feel like
- 33:16Speaker 1: has more heart than any Beach Boys song drove Downtown
- 33:21Speaker 1: in the rain nine thirty on a Tuesday night. Bare
- 33:26Speaker 1: Naked Ladies is an underrated band. To me, they have
- 33:29Speaker 1: a lot of fucking good songs. The Old Apartment, I mean,
- 33:32Speaker 1: it's all been done if I had a million dollars anyways,
- 33:38Speaker 1: one one week was kind of like their Californication to me.
- 33:42Speaker 1: But Ryan, what do you think about the Boys of Beach.
- 33:50Speaker 4: Very omnipresence like that, I feel like they're just like
- 33:52Speaker 4: the music is always around. I have felt similar, like
- 33:54Speaker 4: I never felt like super intrigued to go deeper into it.
- 33:59Speaker 2: I like it, sure, but.
- 34:00Speaker 1: Like lying in bed, just like Brian Wilson did.
- 34:08Speaker 2: All right.
- 34:09Speaker 4: Up next, we've got Jack Johnson.
- 34:16Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a very particular take that is
- 34:20Speaker 1: not fair, and I'll tell you why. So I've always
- 34:24Speaker 1: been and Ben has said he's mentioned this about my
- 34:28Speaker 1: opinions before, and he was like, this is a good
- 34:31Speaker 1: and bad quality. I always feel like when there's two
- 34:34Speaker 1: people that I feel are competing for the same space,
- 34:38Speaker 1: I can only like one of them. So for example,
- 34:41Speaker 1: I hated The Rock because there was The Rock and
- 34:44Speaker 1: Stone Cold and both were like white hot popular wrestlers,
- 34:49Speaker 1: but I sided with Stone Cold so I liked him more.
- 34:52Speaker 1: Same with you know, HBK and Brett Hart, or like
- 34:56Speaker 1: hul Covid and The Ultimate Warrior. I feel like you
- 34:59Speaker 1: always had to pick a that you couldn't like both,
- 35:02Speaker 1: and Ben's like, I understand the loyalty aspect of that,
- 35:05Speaker 1: but you can also like both, like you don't personally
- 35:08Speaker 1: know these people, you're allowed to like both. And it's
- 35:10Speaker 1: come up a lot with with rappers, like I always
- 35:13Speaker 1: hated jay Z because I chose NAS's side, and Ben
- 35:18Speaker 1: was like, that's kind of dumb. You can just like
- 35:20Speaker 1: both of them. But I always felt bad because I
- 35:23Speaker 1: just respected and like Nas more.
- 35:25Speaker 2: So.
- 35:25Speaker 1: My point is Jack Johnson was like the more popular,
- 35:29Speaker 1: less black version of Ben Harper to me, and I
- 35:33Speaker 1: loved Ben Harper, so I disliked Jack Johnson because of
- 35:37Speaker 1: that because I felt like they were both trying to
- 35:39Speaker 1: occupy the same space, but Jack Johnson was more mainstream
- 35:43Speaker 1: popular and that made me dislike him. Does that make
- 35:46Speaker 1: any sense?
- 35:48Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that's fair. I think that's fair. I haven't
- 35:50Speaker 3: thought of Ben Harper so long.
- 35:51Speaker 2: Wow.
- 35:52Speaker 1: I love Ben Harper.
- 35:53Speaker 2: I just love that Harper.
- 35:54Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, my dad used to really because he has
- 35:56Speaker 3: a lot of like bluesy stuff.
- 35:59Speaker 1: And also Jack Johnson's just so safe, so safe, just
- 36:03Speaker 1: like if you were like on a surfboard in an elevator.
- 36:07Speaker 1: Somehow those two things were combined. That's like what Jack
- 36:10Speaker 1: Johnson's music is.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Like.
- 36:13Speaker 3: Yeah, like the live laugh, Love in the Kitchen, that's
- 36:16Speaker 3: like Jack Johnson.
- 36:18Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Jack Johnson in like the Mumford and
- 36:20Speaker 1: Sons category of d I don't. I don't passionately hate
- 36:25Speaker 1: him by any means, but not a fan and he
- 36:28Speaker 1: was really popular for a while. So then, I mean
- 36:35Speaker 1: you kind of spoke on it already.
- 36:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, Ryan, similar deal. I like, I've liked
- 36:43Speaker 4: what I've heard of it is, but never went deeper.
- 36:45Speaker 4: But I'm glad you called him up. They do fucking
- 36:47Speaker 4: love Ben Harper. Both sides of the Gun is a
- 36:50Speaker 4: great album.
- 36:51Speaker 3: Uh.
- 36:52Speaker 1: Burn one Down is like maybe my favorite weat smoking
- 36:54Speaker 1: song of all time. Burn one Down like a beltweed.
- 36:59Speaker 3: Let's take a lot of these. I know, like it's
- 37:03Speaker 3: it's kind of ignorant for me to say this. I
- 37:04Speaker 3: know there's more to it, but like a lot of
- 37:07Speaker 3: jam band music I listened to it, I'm just like
- 37:11Speaker 3: my takeaway is like, all right, you guys smoke weed
- 37:14Speaker 3: cool like you have. Do you have anything else to
- 37:16Speaker 3: say about the world?
- 37:18Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's like to me.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Jack Johnson is the same thing. It's just like, I
- 37:23Speaker 3: know he does literally sing about that, but just every
- 37:26Speaker 3: song is just like weed cool man.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.
- 37:32Speaker 3: Maybe maybe that's completely unfair, but.
- 37:36Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan Jack Johnson fan, I just we just we
- 37:43Speaker 1: already did my thing. Oh shit, sorry I was distracted
- 37:47Speaker 1: something about Ben Harvey. But anyways, okay, what's next?
- 37:51Speaker 2: All right? Up next is uh uh a written letter
- 37:59Speaker 2: from Joe. It is Metallica.
- 38:03Speaker 1: I almost submitted Metallica, but I didn't. I almost submitted
- 38:07Speaker 1: it myself. Metallica. I I it's complicated that I really
- 38:15Speaker 1: like some of their songs, their cover of Whiskey and
- 38:19Speaker 1: the jar just doing a metal cover of an Irish
- 38:22Speaker 1: folk song and releasing it as a single. I respect
- 38:24Speaker 1: that they have a lot of good fuel. I love
- 38:26Speaker 1: the song fuel.
- 38:29Speaker 2: From Reload you Hea Wow.
- 38:31Speaker 1: Yeah, Load and Reload. I remember that was a big
- 38:34Speaker 1: deal because there's allegedly Semen. The cover of the album
- 38:38Speaker 1: is allegedly Semen. That was a big thing back in
- 38:40Speaker 1: the day. Uh, and like is it Semen? Like we're
- 38:44Speaker 1: looking at is it Semen or is it not? Or
- 38:46Speaker 1: you know, is that an urban legend or not? I
- 38:47Speaker 1: don't even know the truth. Is it supposed to be Semen?
- 38:50Speaker 1: I believe it is because it's called Load and Reload,
- 38:53Speaker 1: So that's.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah yeah.
- 38:55Speaker 1: But and Enter the Sandman. You know, they have a
- 39:00Speaker 1: lot of good songs, but at the same time they're
- 39:02Speaker 1: just a very unlikable band. Like Lars is so awful
- 39:09Speaker 1: the drum the drummer, he's awful, and he started the
- 39:11Speaker 1: whole you know, we have billions of well not billions,
- 39:14Speaker 1: but we have millions and millions of dollars where we're
- 39:16Speaker 1: gonna sue Napster and take Napster down. And he's just
- 39:21Speaker 1: so he's awful in the in the some kind of monster.
- 39:24Speaker 1: That's the title of the documentary, right.
- 39:25Speaker 2: Ryan, phenomenal documentary.
- 39:27Speaker 1: He's he's just so unlikable in that, would you agree, Ryan.
- 39:31Speaker 4: He's very unlikable. Yes, And that's one very good point
- 39:35Speaker 4: on that documentary, which is what Hatfield comes back James
- 39:41Speaker 4: Headfield leads aner comes back from rehab and.
- 39:43Speaker 2: They're like, he's like, I need to ease my way
- 39:45Speaker 2: back in.
- 39:46Speaker 4: So like they ease their way back in and they're
- 39:49Speaker 4: like playing again, and he's like, Okay, after I leave,
- 39:50Speaker 4: we can't listen to the music we recorded, and a
- 39:53Speaker 4: lot of ollerg just goes no, and he's like, I
- 39:56Speaker 4: don't care if it's fucking four thirty pm. If we
- 39:58Speaker 4: just record a song and I want to hear it,
- 39:59Speaker 4: I'm gonna fucking listen to it.
- 40:01Speaker 2: I was.
- 40:01Speaker 1: I respect to that fair, Yeah, And and they're they're
- 40:05Speaker 1: very like, uh, they've been criticized for selling out a lot,
- 40:09Speaker 1: so I just kind of they're also they're a very
- 40:13Speaker 1: very very popular, mainstream popular and made millions of dollars
- 40:17Speaker 1: thrash metal band.
- 40:19Speaker 2: They survived the grunge nuke. That's what surprised me.
- 40:23Speaker 4: Surprised me was like, like, interesting, I think Black album
- 40:26Speaker 4: came out after never Mind and it was massively successful.
- 40:30Speaker 3: Yeah, my favorite Metallica songs have always been like their.
- 40:34Speaker 1: Ballads Forgiven, Unforgiven too.
- 40:39Speaker 3: I love to shadow Chris Parker, He's let's do it
- 40:44Speaker 3: at his house. But like what I think Metallica's cool.
- 40:47Speaker 3: It's like they have all these songs that are just
- 40:50Speaker 3: like it's it's a very similar theme. It's like it's
- 40:54Speaker 3: like the disgraced warrior who is like, you know, been
- 40:58Speaker 3: shamed and like has this final chance to relive and
- 41:02Speaker 3: bring glory back to his village. Like that's the theme
- 41:06Speaker 3: of all our songs, and that's kind of cool to be.
- 41:08Speaker 1: I w I vote for Metallica like running for office.
- 41:13Speaker 1: I just feel like I can't get behind them. That's
- 41:15Speaker 1: how I feel about them. Like I kind of like them,
- 41:18Speaker 1: and I'm I almost want to root for them, but
- 41:20Speaker 1: I feel like I can't get behind them because I
- 41:23Speaker 1: I just have problems with them. So I'm gonna say
- 41:28Speaker 1: I'm gonna put them in a B category beca. I
- 41:31Speaker 1: can see Ryan fucking loving Metallica.
- 41:35Speaker 2: Love them and middle school, high school, adore them to
- 41:41Speaker 2: their credit.
- 41:42Speaker 4: I feel like even though they broke through the mainstream.
- 41:45Speaker 4: They didn't really I think change what they did. I
- 41:50Speaker 4: to me, the music and the sound, it was all
- 41:53Speaker 4: still thrash metal. They had like Hear of the Day,
- 41:55Speaker 4: which is a slow song, but it's I think, really
- 41:58Speaker 4: fucking good.
- 41:58Speaker 2: Actually, like I have no problem with that. I haven't
- 42:04Speaker 2: listened since. I think.
- 42:07Speaker 4: Whatever Saint Anger was, I was like, oh three or four,
- 42:10Speaker 4: but like their eighties through the nineties, I was like
- 42:14Speaker 4: pretty solid. I think a lot of people hated Loaded
- 42:16Speaker 4: and Reload when they came out. I think I was
- 42:18Speaker 4: too young to understand why they hated them. But Load
- 42:21Speaker 4: was the first tape I ever just like legitimately broke
- 42:23Speaker 4: listening to too much. I think two by four is
- 42:27Speaker 4: the greatest wrestling theme song that no one has used.
- 42:29Speaker 4: They could be absolutely incredible. Someone came out to that song.
- 42:33Speaker 4: But yeah, I love them, but I listened to them
- 42:36Speaker 4: a long time. Well definitely seen in the concert, though.
- 42:39Speaker 1: I still remember laughing my ass off. I think we
- 42:42Speaker 1: were for some reason. I remember us being I was
- 42:44Speaker 1: not like a Natick towny kid. But what was the
- 42:48Speaker 1: Natick Tounty spot Ben that had cal zones Buffalo chicken
- 42:52Speaker 1: cal zones?
- 42:54Speaker 3: Uh, well everywhere but George's George's.
- 42:57Speaker 1: I think we went to Georgia's randomly Ryan and we
- 43:00Speaker 1: were in downtown Natick, which was not like a hangout
- 43:02Speaker 1: spot for me because I'm not Natick Natick, Kai towny trash.
- 43:06Speaker 1: And that's when you sang entered the Sandman and you said, uh,
- 43:14Speaker 1: tap mine off to fucking Disneyland. I remember laughing so
- 43:21Speaker 1: hard at that because that would be insane if that
- 43:24Speaker 1: was the song.
- 43:25Speaker 4: But uh, anyways, Disney Marshall at Disney Parks, dot Com,
- 43:28Speaker 4: Great Disneyland. I always wished too that they released It
- 43:34Speaker 4: wasn't a song, but I love when Kenny goes to
- 43:36Speaker 4: Hell in the south.
- 43:37Speaker 2: Park movie Little Bow.
- 43:38Speaker 4: You don't know that's James Hattfield, but I think it's great.
- 43:42Speaker 4: They got into just one line of a song, and
- 43:43Speaker 4: I was like, I would love that was an actual song.
- 43:45Speaker 1: Hell is in good, Hell's in good, Little Bow, It's
- 43:49Speaker 1: time for you to pay. Do you remember knocking to church?
- 43:52Speaker 1: And uh, I can't remember an excellence something at school?
- 43:55Speaker 1: Every day? Hell is in good, Hell's in good? He
- 44:00Speaker 1: also a thing that I respect is the most vulgar
- 44:04Speaker 1: song like I've ever heard in my life is so
- 44:07Speaker 1: what by the Anti Nowhere League. It's like a go
- 44:11Speaker 1: to karaoke choice of mine. It would never be at
- 44:13Speaker 1: a bar, but like if I'm at a party house party.
- 44:16Speaker 1: But it's an Anti Nowhere League, which is a punk band,
- 44:19Speaker 1: so what. And it's a disgusting song, just vile lyrics
- 44:24Speaker 1: that are horrible. And Metallica covered it like on TV
- 44:28Speaker 1: once or something like that because they were mad at
- 44:31Speaker 1: the promoter or something like that. And I just loved that.
- 44:34Speaker 1: I loved that James Hetfield even knew that song existed.
- 44:37Speaker 1: So yeah, but anyways, next song, next, sorry, next band.
- 44:43Speaker 2: Next band is called the Limiters. Now, I have not
- 44:49Speaker 2: heard of this group. Have you guys heard of it?
- 44:51Speaker 1: I've never never heard of this.
- 44:52Speaker 2: Okay.
- 44:53Speaker 4: I think this may have been an autocorrect issue from
- 44:55Speaker 4: someone's text. I think they meant the Lumineers. Oh, Beau
- 44:59Speaker 4: is a group. I'm guessing this, but I still put
- 45:01Speaker 4: it on there because it adds an actual group.
- 45:04Speaker 2: I've never heard of them. I didn't. I thought it
- 45:06Speaker 2: was a dispatched thing here where I just didn't know
- 45:08Speaker 2: who they were.
- 45:09Speaker 1: I think it's probably the Lumineers.
- 45:10Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so we'll throw that one out. Go ahead, Okay.
- 45:17Speaker 1: Next one is Nirvana a easy ah, not overrated, properly rated,
- 45:24Speaker 1: fucking awesome band. They have multiple amazing albums. They have
- 45:29Speaker 1: a dozen at least great songs easy slam dunk A.
- 45:36Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, I think they are. I think
- 45:39Speaker 3: Nirvana is uh is both like kind of cliche and like, well,
- 45:46Speaker 3: to your point, properly rated, Like they're very cliche, but
- 45:48Speaker 3: they're cliche for a reason. And I also think they're universal.
- 45:52Speaker 2: I think.
- 45:56Speaker 3: I think someone who doesn't like rock music can still
- 45:58Speaker 3: like when Nirvana and people do like I think, like
- 46:05Speaker 3: you mentioned before, how myself or some other demographics I've
- 46:09Speaker 3: never heard of. Certain I think almost everyone has heard
- 46:12Speaker 3: Davana I could.
- 46:17Speaker 2: Song.
- 46:17Speaker 1: So the list the track listening for never Mind, I
- 46:20Speaker 1: just looked it up, smells like teen Spirit in Bloom amazing,
- 46:23Speaker 1: Come as You Are, amazing, breed Lithium amazing, Paul Territorial Pissings,
- 46:29Speaker 1: drain you. Oh yeah, it's so good on a plane
- 46:35Speaker 1: something in the way that was made very popular by
- 46:41Speaker 1: the Robert Pattinson Batman movie. This whole album is amazing,
- 46:47Speaker 1: and then they have like multiple other amazing albums. So
- 46:52Speaker 1: never Mind is not an overrated album at all.
- 46:56Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I just thought of one of my favorite
- 47:00Speaker 3: roast moments. Whether I forgret who said it, but someone
- 47:03Speaker 3: said court accordy love was obviously the Courtney how do
- 47:05Speaker 3: you look worse than Kirk Obain?
- 47:08Speaker 2: Like that mean?
- 47:09Speaker 1: That's so so mean. In U is also a phenomenal,
- 47:14Speaker 1: amazing album.
- 47:14Speaker 2: Sententless Apprentice is an amazing song.
- 47:17Speaker 1: Heart Shape yeah, uh, Sendless Apprentice, heart Shaped box, the
- 47:22Speaker 1: incredible heart Shape rate me, which we all know rate me,
- 47:26Speaker 1: all apologies, all apologies, incredible.
- 47:29Speaker 2: Phenomenal, the live versions, amazing unplug version. I'm sorry everyone
- 47:36Speaker 2: is gay.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Great line.
- 47:40Speaker 4: The one of the compliments to feed off what Ben
- 47:43Speaker 4: is saying is, I remember there's a there was a
- 47:45Speaker 4: TV show, I think it was like v H one
- 47:47Speaker 4: or m TV was like doing what's your like workout playlist?
- 47:52Speaker 4: And they had doctor drey on and he's like, number
- 47:55Speaker 4: one song on my playlist for working out smells like
- 47:58Speaker 4: teen Spirit and they were like really, they were like
- 48:01Speaker 4: so a surprise, and he's like He's like, I wish
- 48:04Speaker 4: I'd produced that song. He's like the energy of that song.
- 48:06Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know how someone finds that. He's
- 48:08Speaker 4: like it's unbelievable.
- 48:10Speaker 1: My favorite Kirk Cobain story is Weird Al. Even though
- 48:13Speaker 1: he's protected by parody law, he used to call the
- 48:16Speaker 1: artist because he was famous and ask for permission to
- 48:19Speaker 1: be like a decent guy. And he called Kirk Cobain
- 48:22Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, Kurt, it's weird Al. And Kirk
- 48:24Speaker 1: Oban was like, oh, that's awesome. Love you dude, like
- 48:27Speaker 1: huge fan, and he was like, yeah, I was gonna
- 48:30Speaker 1: spoof smells like teen Spirit? Is that okay? Absolutely? Okay?
- 48:34Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear it. And then kirkle Band goes,
- 48:37Speaker 1: can you do me one favor? And weird Al's like,
- 48:39Speaker 1: what can you not make it about food? Because all
- 48:42Speaker 1: Weird Al's parody songs are about food, and he goes, no, Actually,
- 48:46Speaker 1: my plan was to make it about how nobody can
- 48:49Speaker 1: understand what you're saying when you sing. Kirk Coleband was like, oh,
- 48:52Speaker 1: that's hilarious.
- 48:52Speaker 3: I love it.
- 48:54Speaker 4: I always think of this whenever, like people like bring
- 48:58Speaker 4: him up is? I think it's in the Pearl Jam
- 49:01Speaker 4: twenty documentary or the one about the Foo Fighters. There's
- 49:05Speaker 4: live footage of their concert and whoever is narrating it
- 49:09Speaker 4: is talking about like Neirvana, like how Nirvana has made
- 49:12Speaker 4: kids very negative and very down. And Kirk Cobaine is
- 49:16Speaker 4: that they're playing on a huge stage of huge crowd
- 49:18Speaker 4: and he finishes the song and he just turns around
- 49:21Speaker 4: and just like runs full speed ahead into the drum
- 49:24Speaker 4: set and like throws himself into it. I just think
- 49:26Speaker 4: it's the funniest thing because he's like, like he must
- 49:28Speaker 4: have got hurt like badly because he just runs.
- 49:30Speaker 2: He just drops the guitar and runs straight into it.
- 49:32Speaker 2: That's what he does. I think it's so funny.
- 49:35Speaker 1: Oh that's great, But all right, is this the last one?
- 49:39Speaker 4: This is the last one? All right, save the best
- 49:41Speaker 4: for last. This is another double submission. This is the
- 49:44Speaker 4: Dave Matthews band.
- 49:46Speaker 1: Oh okay, So I'm going to explain this in two ways.
- 49:53Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the band Dave, and then
- 49:56Speaker 1: their fans. So the band Dave, they have some good songs.
- 50:03Speaker 1: They're fine. I would say there may be like a
- 50:08Speaker 1: seat their musical quality, their band, their songs. Their fans
- 50:12Speaker 1: would be X. They're my least favorite group of fans
- 50:17Speaker 1: and all of music, because if I met a colplit
- 50:20Speaker 1: fit play fan, I wouldn't hate them. I just feel
- 50:22Speaker 1: bad for them. I'd be like, you're you're lost, and
- 50:25Speaker 1: I just wish you the best. But a Dave fan.
- 50:28Speaker 1: I hate Dave fans first of all calling him Dave.
- 50:34Speaker 1: Hate that, the d MB stickers on cars, hate that.
- 50:38Speaker 1: But my least favorite thing is people would say, oh,
- 50:40Speaker 1: you're going to Dave, and I'd be like, what, You're
- 50:43Speaker 1: going to date Dave Matthews band. They're they're playing a
- 50:45Speaker 1: show in like a month, You're gonna go? And I'm like,
- 50:49Speaker 1: you're just assuming that I care about this. Like if
- 50:52Speaker 1: I said, oh, you're going to Pink. Pink's playing at
- 50:55Speaker 1: chi Lette Stadium, Pinks playing at Gilette Staium in June,
- 50:58Speaker 1: You're going to Pink, people would be like, what, No,
- 51:00Speaker 1: why are you asking me this. I don't like Pink,
- 51:03Speaker 1: by the way. Pink's another good one where I just
- 51:05Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't understand how I actually, Brian, there's
- 51:10Speaker 1: one that I know for a fact you left out
- 51:12Speaker 1: because yep, it's not pink though, is it Pink? Okay? Yeah, Pink.
- 51:18Speaker 1: I just don't do you know anybody that's like, you
- 51:20Speaker 1: know who? I love Pink? You know it was my
- 51:22Speaker 1: favorite artist, Pink.
- 51:23Speaker 3: Not favorite, but Mark likes Pink. Uh.
- 51:26Speaker 1: You know what really makes me feel passionate about music
- 51:28Speaker 1: like I'm Alive is Pink. No one has ever thought that.
- 51:31Speaker 4: Uh.
- 51:32Speaker 1: The Dave fans are just insufferable. Everybody. And it wasn't
- 51:36Speaker 1: like college douches like oh Ire, it was everyone. It
- 51:40Speaker 1: was girls, it was guys. Everyone just go see Dave
- 51:46Speaker 1: and like we're all sheep, just lining up. We're all
- 51:49Speaker 1: the same. We're wearing jeans and the same sneakers, and
- 51:53Speaker 1: like guys are in rugby shirts or a polo shirt
- 51:56Speaker 1: and we're all wearing hats, and it's just everybody's it's
- 52:00Speaker 1: the same. It's just so fucking boring. And every girl
- 52:04Speaker 1: in my college would be wearing a north faced fleece,
- 52:07Speaker 1: jeans and ug boots and they'd all be with guys
- 52:11Speaker 1: that were dressed exactly the same, and they would go
- 52:13Speaker 1: see Dave anytime he came to town. They'd be playing
- 52:16Speaker 1: Dave all Friday and Saturday night. It's just like, you're
- 52:19Speaker 1: so boring, You're so boring. I don't understand it. The
- 52:24Speaker 1: best thing they ever did is when they dump shit
- 52:26Speaker 1: on that boat off the bridge, that was the best
- 52:28Speaker 1: thing Dave ever did. I just I don't get it.
- 52:31Speaker 1: It's so it's just like, oh, don't you have any
- 52:36Speaker 1: shred of creativity originality in your body. It's like when
- 52:39Speaker 1: I go to an event in Milton and every dad
- 52:43Speaker 1: is dressed the exact saying they were in like a
- 52:45Speaker 1: blue polo and jeans, and like, it's just you're so
- 52:52Speaker 1: boring And I'm not saying that you have to dress
- 52:55Speaker 1: like me and just like just be slightly different than
- 52:58Speaker 1: every other person.
- 53:00Speaker 3: Yes, no, I like, no, you said it. You said
- 53:06Speaker 3: it really well, Like I completely agree with you. It's
- 53:10Speaker 3: it's not And I also like like some Dave Matthew songs.
- 53:15Speaker 3: I think even at times, like when I was younger,
- 53:17Speaker 3: I would admit like I got pulled into the cause
- 53:20Speaker 3: it was like it was like all the hot people
- 53:21Speaker 3: that like Dave. It was like hot white. It was
- 53:24Speaker 3: like hot white, wealthy people that like yeah, it's like
- 53:28Speaker 3: you know, like of course you'd want to be part
- 53:29Speaker 3: of that crew, but like, yeah, it is, so it
- 53:37Speaker 3: is just yeah, it's the epitome of everything we're talking about.
- 53:40Speaker 3: The Other thing I remember is, like I do some
- 53:44Speaker 3: guys would go to Dave shows at like they would
- 53:46Speaker 3: go like every year during a su and they would
- 53:49Speaker 3: always get it fights at Dave shows, which like completely
- 53:52Speaker 3: tracks to me what no I know.
- 53:53Speaker 1: But because that's so unfair to Dave because Dave's music
- 53:56Speaker 1: is not about that, but there would be I would tip.
- 54:00Speaker 3: You can totally see.
- 54:01Speaker 1: Of course, That's what I'm talking about, like the disconnect
- 54:04Speaker 1: between Dave and the fans. Dave, I don't think, is
- 54:07Speaker 1: a bad guy. The fans I hate. Of course, Sarah
- 54:10Speaker 1: fights at Dave shows, which makes no sense. You have
- 54:12Speaker 1: to know the fans.
- 54:13Speaker 3: Yeah, not only like their fights, but people like people
- 54:16Speaker 3: go there looking for fights and like you look at
- 54:19Speaker 3: my Grolbro type of people, you.
- 54:20Speaker 1: Know, I just hate that. I hate that so so
- 54:25Speaker 1: Dave to me would be f just because he can't
- 54:28Speaker 1: be X because I don't hate Dave and he has
- 54:31Speaker 1: some good songs. But they're my least favorite fan base
- 54:33Speaker 1: in all of music, in all of music ever, they're
- 54:36Speaker 1: my least favorite fan base. So maybe like country. Actually
- 54:43Speaker 1: my least favorite fan base ever is New England country
- 54:46Speaker 1: music fans. That's my least favorite country fan base. Kid
- 54:49Speaker 1: rock fans no, because like no, nobody likes kid rock
- 54:54Speaker 1: and if you like kid rock, everybody just everybody hates you.
- 54:57Speaker 1: Everybody you know hates you if you if you're a
- 54:59Speaker 1: kid rock fan, because like, nobody in twenty twenty six
- 55:02Speaker 1: likes kid rock.
- 55:03Speaker 3: But yeah, yes, I would say in twenty twenty four people.
- 55:08Speaker 2: Like kid rock.
- 55:10Speaker 1: No, nobody that I would care about.
- 55:13Speaker 3: No, like, no, not, I'm not like my friends, not
- 55:15Speaker 3: people I know. But I mean, like, you know, he's
- 55:19Speaker 3: going to the White House and stuff like that.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Also, let's not kid ourselves. Kid rock has some good songs.
- 55:24Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not fucking around with I'm not.
- 55:26Speaker 1: I don't tell lies to myself. Kid rock has some
- 55:28Speaker 1: good songs.
- 55:29Speaker 3: Oh, Devil out of Clause has beggers from start.
- 55:32Speaker 1: To finish exactly, bah bah blah blah. Cowboy. Yeah, but Ryan,
- 55:39Speaker 1: how do you feel about Dave.
- 55:42Speaker 4: The Bolth descriptions were just amazing. I did not know
- 55:45Speaker 4: the fight culture at all. That's amazing to me at
- 55:47Speaker 4: Dave Matthews Bank because it's seemingly not his thing. Loved
- 55:50Speaker 4: Dave Matthews in middle school.
- 55:54Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry to interrupt, but like a finer point
- 55:57Speaker 3: on that is the people on New who were into
- 56:00Speaker 3: like metal would never in a billion years get in
- 56:04Speaker 3: a fight at a show. By the way, would never
- 56:07Speaker 3: like be creepy around a female either.
- 56:11Speaker 6: The people I knew, not not everyone like my sister
- 56:14Speaker 6: likes Dave, but a lot of them would be the
- 56:17Speaker 6: type of people who'd be very very aggressive around females
- 56:21Speaker 6: and very very physically aggressive around other males.
- 56:25Speaker 1: This is why it's so unfair to Dave, because it's
- 56:27Speaker 1: not fair to associate Dave with this. David is innocent
- 56:30Speaker 1: of these charges. But if you were to say, okay, there,
- 56:35Speaker 1: let's just take a male college rapist from two thousand
- 56:40Speaker 1: and four to two thousand and eight, which is when
- 56:41Speaker 1: I went to college, who were they most likely a
- 56:44Speaker 1: fan of music? Wise, I would say Dave.
- 56:47Speaker 2: David. We found to remember two things CD on his person, like.
- 56:52Speaker 1: I really just yeah, yeah, so yeah.
- 57:00Speaker 2: I loved him in middle school. I was a big fan.
- 57:02Speaker 4: I love the live stuff, Live Red Rocks, incredible album.
- 57:05Speaker 4: I always love this.
- 57:06Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm not gonna lie and say like
- 57:08Speaker 3: I didn't fild a pool of Dave. Like I said,
- 57:10Speaker 3: it was all like you know, like in our school,
- 57:13Speaker 3: was so self natic, was like the nice part. So
- 57:16Speaker 3: it's all like the wealthy self Nata kids and like
- 57:18Speaker 3: the Hawk girls, like they all like Dave. So I
- 57:20Speaker 3: was like, you know, obviously there's there's.
- 57:22Speaker 2: Like a poll with that.
- 57:26Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I know, I agree. I think we should
- 57:28Speaker 1: move on. I think this is the last one, Ryan,
- 57:29Speaker 1: because there's a band I know you forgot.
- 57:31Speaker 2: I did forget this one I found at the bottom
- 57:33Speaker 2: of the picture. It is Yellow Card.
- 57:36Speaker 1: Oh no, there's another band you forgot, Yellow Card. That's
- 57:40Speaker 1: a that's gotta be Joe, because no one even knows
- 57:43Speaker 1: Yellow Card anymore.
- 57:44Speaker 2: Was it Joe, It's actually Andy?
- 57:48Speaker 1: Okay, yellow Card. I don't like they just had Ocean Avenue.
- 57:53Speaker 1: They were like a pop punk emo band when we
- 57:55Speaker 1: were in high school. I'm indifferent to them, I would say, See,
- 58:00Speaker 1: I have like no feelings about them, and no one
- 58:02Speaker 1: has thought about them in twenty years. The big one
- 58:05Speaker 1: that I know is on the list that you forgot
- 58:06Speaker 1: is Maroon Five.
- 58:08Speaker 4: They were not on any list that I have from.
- 58:10Speaker 4: I received texts from Joe, Shannon and Andy Kelly, and
- 58:13Speaker 4: none of them are on that.
- 58:14Speaker 1: Way and me. So originally, originally people were texting knee
- 58:20Speaker 1: bands and I re conveying them to you. Maybe I
- 58:22Speaker 1: forgot to convey it to you, maybe I forgot to
- 58:24Speaker 1: afford it to you, Ryan, But Maroon five, never mind, Sorry,
- 58:28Speaker 1: Maroon five would be f And the reason for that
- 58:32Speaker 1: is they are truly terrible. I don't understand they are
- 58:36Speaker 1: one of that. They're up there with Coleplay for me,
- 58:39Speaker 1: as like, I do not understand their success. I do
- 58:42Speaker 1: not understand how did Maroon five ever get that popular.
- 58:47Speaker 1: They were like a list insanely popular.
- 58:50Speaker 2: For you and my apologies, yeah and I have I
- 58:55Speaker 2: have no.
- 58:56Speaker 1: They had no talent. They have no talent. No one
- 58:59Speaker 1: likes them. The one Super Bowl I went to and
- 59:01Speaker 1: Maroon five was a halftime show and everybody hated it,
- 59:04Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that sucks. It's not any
- 59:06Speaker 1: other artist. But at the same time, they don't make
- 59:11Speaker 1: me angry because I feel like Maroon five truly is
- 59:15Speaker 1: elevator music to the the utmost degree. It's elevator music.
- 59:19Speaker 1: It means nothing to no one. And uh, like, people
- 59:22Speaker 1: actually think Coldplay is good music and they feel passionate
- 59:26Speaker 1: about Coldplay. Nobody feels that about Maroon five. I mean,
- 59:29Speaker 1: it's like Pink who really honestly it's Pink. I could
- 59:33Speaker 1: see people be more passionate about if that's your thing.
- 59:37Speaker 1: No one is like, oh man, like, if I was
- 59:39Speaker 1: dying and I had five minutes to live, I'd want
- 59:41Speaker 1: you to play me Maroon five. Uh, they're just there nothing.
- 59:45Speaker 1: They're true elevator music. But that's why they're not x
- 59:48Speaker 1: is because I don't they don't make me angry, they
- 59:51Speaker 1: just they're it's just meaningless to me, So they're they're
- 59:54Speaker 1: the F tier.
- 59:55Speaker 2: I've got another one too in your list?
- 59:58Speaker 1: Who's that?
- 59:59Speaker 2: It was a can Park?
- 1:00:01Speaker 3: Oh well, can I go for Sorry? I just want
- 1:00:04Speaker 3: to say Tim Maroon five is absolutely on my X tier.
- 1:00:09Speaker 3: It's funny TIMPs like I feel like we have like
- 1:00:11Speaker 3: very in certain ways, very different tastes of music, but
- 1:00:16Speaker 3: we hate the same things very very much. I'm finding
- 1:00:20Speaker 3: I would put them at like D or f T here,
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: but I'm very jealous. Do you know who would be hatty?
- 1:00:26Speaker 3: I think Behadi Prince lou Is. She's a model, she
- 1:00:30Speaker 3: is Adam Levine's wife. She's he's absolutely gork She's absolutely gorgeous.
- 1:00:35Speaker 1: She's a Victoria's secret angel that he cheated on.
- 1:00:39Speaker 3: Oh there you go, so x x x X.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: First of all, Adam Levine with no shirt on. His
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: tattoos are so stupid and ugly. And I'm not hating
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: on tattoos. You can have like cool tattoos. His tattoos
- 1:00:55Speaker 1: are so dumb. And he has had a murderer's row
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: of women. I mean, like he he hooked up with
- 1:01:02Speaker 1: Jessica Simpson, like while she was still married I think,
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: and uh he married a Victoria's Secret Angel, so like
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: that's literally you cannot achieve higher than that in life
- 1:01:13Speaker 1: as a man. And he cheated on her with this
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: like Instagram model who's very, very hot. Her name is
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: Sumner Strow, but he he had the douchiest text to
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: her that leak, and one of them was Bahadi. Prince
- 1:01:27Speaker 1: Low was pregnant with I think a girl, and he
- 1:01:30Speaker 1: said to Sumner Strow, Oh, we're thinking about like I
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: suggested we should name her Sumner because I think your
- 1:01:35Speaker 1: name is so cool.
- 1:01:37Speaker 3: And I was just like, yeah x x tier.
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: That say that to the girl you're cheating on your
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: wife with? What about your daughter?
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: Like just kill.
- 1:01:54Speaker 1: I I feel I don't like to say kill yourself
- 1:01:57Speaker 1: because I think suicide is a real problem and I
- 1:01:59Speaker 1: don't want to say, oh, if you're a fan of Coldplay,
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: kill yourself, because that's mean, and I don't want anybody
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: who's ever listening to be so depressed where they actually
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: are contemplating it. Adam Levine specifically, if you are listening,
- 1:02:11Speaker 1: kill yourself. Please please, I'm begging you, kill yourself. We
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: would all be so happy, the world would be at
- 1:02:18Speaker 1: it off. Kill yourself.
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: And what was the other one? Ryan?
- 1:02:24Speaker 2: Lincoln Park?
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: Lincoln Park? Okay? Ryan, do you like Maroon five?
- 1:02:30Speaker 4: They were another Shaw's cursed band that you heard every
- 1:02:32Speaker 4: one of their songs all the time.
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: Yeah, they're grocery store music. You're shopping for crackers. It's
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: Moroon five. That's absolute what I imagine Lincoln Park, Ben Crackers.
- 1:02:44Speaker 1: That'd be a great album name. I'm not kidding, that'd
- 1:02:47Speaker 1: be a fucking great album.
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: Shit.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: I wanted to include Lincoln Park. And the reason for
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: that is I feel like of the new metal bands
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: that actually lasted the test of time that people actually
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: he's still respecting like now, is Lincoln Park. And I
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: just never got it. I never liked Lincoln Park, never
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: was into them, didn't get it. I love that because
- 1:03:11Speaker 1: I love when a lead singer dies and they were.
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: I don't love when elide singer dies, but I love
- 1:03:15Speaker 1: when e lead singer dies and they replace them with
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: someone totally different. They don't try to copy what the
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: person had because that's like they're dead. You know, you
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: can't really do that. So they replaced the Chester with
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: a woman, and I thought that was a really cool
- 1:03:29Speaker 1: idea and I respected that. But never like Lincoln Park.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: I would say they're like a sea for me, but
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: I feel like that's a hot take and you would
- 1:03:37Speaker 1: totally disagree. Yeah.
- 1:03:40Speaker 3: I like Lincoln Park. I mean I don't. I don't
- 1:03:43Speaker 3: like throwing Lincoln Park on the way to work, like
- 1:03:46Speaker 3: too often in twenty twenty six, But.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: I like them.
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: I think they are from Tempe, Arizona. I'm pretty sure.
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: Oh wow, so they're local.
- 1:04:01Speaker 2: R I P Chester, r P Chester.
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: He do he odeed?
- 1:04:07Speaker 2: Right? No?
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: I think he committed suicide.
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: I know he was.
- 1:04:12Speaker 3: He was a heroin addict.
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: He intentionally Ryan, he intentionally committed suicide?
- 1:04:15Speaker 6: Correct?
- 1:04:16Speaker 2: Correct? Yeah?
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay?
- 1:04:20Speaker 7: All right?
- 1:04:21Speaker 1: And Ryan? Do you like Lincoln Park?
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: Yeah? Love Medora, loved hybrid theory. Yeah, I my rapper.
- 1:04:28Speaker 3: Lincoln Park not cool, not cool, not doubt with him.
- 1:04:33Speaker 1: Yeah, he had that song. He like had another. The
- 1:04:35Speaker 1: rapper had another band after Lincoln Park and he had
- 1:04:38Speaker 1: like that one hit Where'd You Go? I Miss You?
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: So feel like Oh jay Z did.
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: Jay Z did an album with them with Lincoln Park.
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: But I'm not talking about the rapper. The rapper in Lincoln.
- 1:04:49Speaker 4: Park had another band course, right, yeah, something like that
- 1:04:53Speaker 4: from Miami Vice.
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:04:55Speaker 1: All right, so I'm gonna quickly go over this. A
- 1:04:58Speaker 1: means I genuinely like them. Journey Corn, The Beatles, Vampire Weekend, Oar, Beyonce, Nirvana,
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: b is. I kind of like them, although I'm embarrassed
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: to a Sugar Ray, Avril, Lavine and Metallica.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: C IS.
- 1:05:10Speaker 1: They're fine. I don't hate them or love them. You two,
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: The White Stripes, The Red Chili Peppers, Bruce Springsteen, NOA
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: Kan Dispatch, Harry Styles, Taylor Swift, The Beach Boys, Yellow Card,
- 1:05:19Speaker 1: Lincoln Park d Is. I dislike them, but they don't
- 1:05:23Speaker 1: really bother me. James Taylor, Fish Usher, Limp, Biscuit, Matchbox twenty,
- 1:05:27Speaker 1: Mumford and Sons, Jack Johnson f is I truly hate them.
- 1:05:31Speaker 1: The Lumineers, Pitbull, Dave Matthews Band, and Maroon five and
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: X is one of the worst bands of all time,
- 1:05:37Speaker 1: one of my least favorite bands of all time. I
- 1:05:39Speaker 1: truly hate them with every fiber in my soul. And
- 1:05:41Speaker 1: that is only Coldplay. So thank you for doing this
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: great idea, Joe. My advice for this list is, you know,
- 1:05:53Speaker 1: Ryan is gonna say something like you know. Whatever you
- 1:05:56Speaker 1: like is if it makes you happy, that's fine. No
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: device is if you like. If you disagree with this list,
- 1:06:03Speaker 1: you're a moron. That's my advice.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: Ben I would say this list is way too white.
- 1:06:12Speaker 1: The list is way too white, or my choices are
- 1:06:14Speaker 1: way too white.
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: The list no no, I agree with almost auverage sure
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: was the only when we disagreed on The list is
- 1:06:21Speaker 3: way too white.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: In my opinion, it's a very white list of white
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: people music. Yeah, but that's I hate a lot of
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: white people in music. I don't really hate. There's not
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: a lot of black artists that I truly hate. I'm
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: trying to think.
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: There's stuff like little Little Uzy I hate.
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:06:39Speaker 3: Yeah, Drake, I hate Little Uzy. I hate because he
- 1:06:42Speaker 3: said tupacin Biggie Suck.
- 1:06:44Speaker 1: Wait, you hate Drake?
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: You know?
- 1:06:48Speaker 3: I hate Drake.
- 1:06:49Speaker 1: You hate Drake, you love Drake.
- 1:06:52Speaker 3: I loved Drake, and I mean before.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: He like I hate I've always hated Drake. I was
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: I was on an island of hating Drake. I fucking
- 1:07:02Speaker 1: hated Drake from day one.
- 1:07:05Speaker 3: Drake is like lyrically one of the best rappers. I
- 1:07:08Speaker 3: mean in like of like the twenty tens and the
- 1:07:12Speaker 3: twenty twenty tens, I would say, And I always was
- 1:07:16Speaker 3: like annoyed by his like you know, he's like from
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: the suburbs and just.
- 1:07:21Speaker 2: This whole thing.
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: But like the thing with Ken, Drick just really was
- 1:07:26Speaker 3: just nailing the coropet for Drake, just.
- 1:07:28Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, I just I've never I never understood
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: it from day one. I said, from day one, he
- 1:07:35Speaker 1: is a he is a child actor from the Canadian
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: suburbs who was like relatively wealthy and okay, that's the
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: that's the uh the hook coming on stage to pull
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: me off as the little robot going off and and
- 1:07:51Speaker 1: he uses a fake African American urban black accent in
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: his songs, and no, it never bothered anyone. And I
- 1:07:59Speaker 1: just was like, what it's like the Emperor has no
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: clothes and I'm looking around like he's naked and then
- 1:08:05Speaker 1: you know you and Chanda Learry are turning to me
- 1:08:08Speaker 1: and was like, no is outfit's amazing. I I just
- 1:08:11Speaker 1: never understood that at all. I thought it was fucking insane.
- 1:08:15Speaker 3: Like all the rappers were down with him for years
- 1:08:18Speaker 3: and years and.
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: He was beefing with DMX, and I was like, you're
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: beefing with DMX and people were on Drake's side. People
- 1:08:25Speaker 1: were took Drake's side.
- 1:08:28Speaker 3: Oh, I would have never done that, but.
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: Yeah Drake.
- 1:08:33Speaker 1: Yeah, AnyWho? Uh So, wait, Ben, what's your advice?
- 1:08:44Speaker 2: Be less white?
- 1:08:46Speaker 1: Okay?
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: Ryan? Listening to one of your guys? Want anything you
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: like as good?
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: Yes? I know, I know that's how you feel. I
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: don't know if you saw the description for part one.
- 1:09:02Speaker 1: I already posted it, but it was like I think
- 1:09:05Speaker 1: it was Tim's Tim's a bitter old man. Ben trashes
- 1:09:08Speaker 1: white people and Ryan says all music is good.
- 1:09:12Speaker 4: This was a really also hot and heavy score and
- 1:09:14Speaker 4: soundtrack time in my life too, with a lot of
- 1:09:16Speaker 4: these bands, So I really wasn't that focus.
- 1:09:18Speaker 1: You were so into scores and soundtracks you didn't even
- 1:09:20Speaker 1: listen to music like I might. I might have an
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: Adam Levine message for you, Ryan. Honestly, at this point I.
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: Was free basing the Return of the King soundtrack and
- 1:09:29Speaker 4: Penies Buffalo Chicken pizza by this time in two thousand
- 1:09:32Speaker 4: and three.
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: So, but who Penies is.
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: It's a great piece of place, a.
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: Great pizza place. Go to Penies. There's my advice. Go
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: to Penies, O Peenies. I have I've been there, yes,
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: oh Genies.
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: All right, thanks everybody for submitting to We should thank
- 1:09:49Speaker 4: everybody who submitted stuff.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you everyone except for Eric because he didn't
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: submit shit.
- 1:09:55Speaker 4: It's also cool the guy who was being asked questions
- 1:09:57Speaker 4: submitted questions suggestions to ask him.
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: That's also a cool thing too.
- 1:10:00Speaker 1: Shut up.
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also a really cool thing.
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: I just picture I text Joe and Eric what do
- 1:10:07Speaker 1: you think of the podcast? And they didn't listen, And
- 1:10:09Speaker 1: there they both are listening simultaneously too. You got the moves,
- 1:10:13Speaker 1: like Jagger, You've got the moves? What a bad song.
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: I remember hearing that song and that wasn't even mad
- 1:10:21Speaker 1: about it. I was like, who likes this? Who is
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: this for? Uh? Yeah, Like I don't, I don't. I
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: don't understand. It would be like if Blue raspberry mayonnaise
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: was flying off the shelves. I would just be like, really,
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: really blue raspberry mayonnaise. That's what I would be thinking.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: That needs to be the description.
- 1:10:41Speaker 3: I guarantee within a week of blue Raspberry manutes Mayonne's dropping,
- 1:10:44Speaker 3: Ryan would have it in his fridge.
- 1:10:47Speaker 1: Ryan's roommate would happen in his fridge and Ryan would
- 1:10:49Speaker 1: be like, oh, he'll try it.
- 1:10:50Speaker 3: I'll try it.
- 1:10:51Speaker 4: He'd be the first to od on it. Yeah, he'd
- 1:10:53Speaker 4: be gone, Yeah, actually hates mayo. It's one of the
- 1:10:56Speaker 4: few things.
- 1:10:57Speaker 2: Yeah, so it does.
- 1:10:58Speaker 1: Ben Well. Thank you Ben for helping out with this episode.
- 1:11:03Speaker 1: Thank you Ryan, thank you everyone who's submitted. Thank you
- 1:11:07Speaker 1: Joe for coming up with this idea. And we will
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: catch you on the Dave Matthews Band, Coldplay, Maroon five
- 1:11:15Speaker 1: flip