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Goblin Infused Metal Storms With ALEX ALEREZA From NEKROGOBLIKON · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: I'm Alex.
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  Speaker 2: I'm the guitar one of the guitarists of Necro Goblicon.
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  Speaker 2: We'll be touring with Alestorm in Australia at the end
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  Speaker 2: of February through the beginning of March.
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  Speaker 3: Yatifer Mike, thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: My pleasure science you say.
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  Speaker 4: Necro goblic On tour Australia for the first time ever
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  Speaker 4: next to year, supporting Olstorm Burana shows starting on February
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  Speaker 4: twenty fifth in Freemantle, then going to Adelaide, Melbourne, Sydney
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  Speaker 4: and finishing.
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  Speaker 3: In Brisbane on March of all.
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  Speaker 4: So the first point of order, I guess made his
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  Speaker 4: wife you need to neglected us for so long.
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  Speaker 1: It's not on purpose.
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  Speaker 2: I promise that we you know, we've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: it forever is and you know, it's been something that
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  Speaker 2: we've tried to make happen. We there were there's been
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  Speaker 2: a few times, there were tentative plans and then some
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  Speaker 2: kind of logistical nightmare occurd or something you know it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, so luckily this time we finally our team
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  Speaker 2: was persistent this time like we have to get you
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  Speaker 2: guys out there, and so they were touch with the
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  Speaker 2: promoter in Australia and promoter already had Ailstorm coming in
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  Speaker 2: and it was like, you guys want to play with
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  Speaker 2: Ulso we're like, yes, that's perfect. We played with those
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  Speaker 2: guys before, we know those shows go well, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's a perfect way for us to do Australia for
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  Speaker 2: the first time is with another kind of a fun,
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  Speaker 2: like minded band.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, very excited.
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  Speaker 2: But we already like I already I already feel like
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  Speaker 2: we'll be coming back more often after this.
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  Speaker 1: I think we have to kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of come and show promoters that that people in Australia
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  Speaker 2: really want to.
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  Speaker 1: Come see some goblin metal hell he is I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, first time in a new country with something like
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  Speaker 4: this might like do you do your research and what
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  Speaker 4: do you expect?
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  Speaker 3: You talk to other bands? Did it been here? Or
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  Speaker 3: do you'd rather come in cold and just see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit of Colin I a little call and
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  Speaker 2: me I feel like I sometimes, yeah, look look at
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  Speaker 2: online at stuff that's you know, in if it's a
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  Speaker 2: country I've never been to, kind of look at you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, what stuff is around.
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  Speaker 2: But then I kind of sop myself and then just
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  Speaker 2: you know, partially due to add and partially do partially
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  Speaker 2: due to I do kind of like just jumping into
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  Speaker 2: something fresh. At the same time, I do kind of
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  Speaker 2: like I like not being prepared to a certain extent
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to kind of experiencing things for the
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  Speaker 2: first time. I like to kind of just just let
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  Speaker 2: it happen, you know, see, you know, be surprised.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what about from Australian fans and Australian crowns. Do
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  Speaker 4: you coping with any expectations?
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  Speaker 1: So our drummers played.
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  Speaker 2: Our drummer Eric also has an act called it was
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  Speaker 2: a one man act called Rainbow Dragonize and that he
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  Speaker 2: toured with Ailstorm in Australia before and he he has
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  Speaker 2: us hyped on it.
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  Speaker 1: He's he's mentioned that you know, the crowds.
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  Speaker 2: Are energetic and fun and and it's every show is
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  Speaker 2: a party, is how he described it, and that's I'm
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  Speaker 2: very excited for that as someone who's never been to
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  Speaker 2: the country before myself.
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  Speaker 1: We're excited to play. The shows had a couple of
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  Speaker 1: other interviews mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: Interviewers mentioned we should check out the beaches and the wildlife,
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  Speaker 2: so if there's any time to in between shows to
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  Speaker 2: go check that out. We definitely want to make that
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  Speaker 2: a priority.
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  Speaker 4: Straight And I'm on the flip side of that, bro, Like,
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  Speaker 4: we got no idea what do we expect from you either?
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  Speaker 3: So what do we expect from a necro goblet on
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  Speaker 3: live show?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: One, there will be a goblin there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Cool stop it's uh you know.
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  Speaker 1: Uh I think you know.
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  Speaker 2: Dicky, our vocalists mentioned he when people he said when
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  Speaker 2: people asked him when he joined the band, like what
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  Speaker 2: what what is neck? What's what's the neckro goblicon show?
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  Speaker 2: Like he said, it's like death metal, but it's a party.
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  Speaker 2: And then I felt like that was a really good
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  Speaker 2: that was a really.
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  Speaker 1: Good uh sum up of it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it's where it's it's high energy, has all
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  Speaker 2: the things you want from metal. It's got you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's got the blast beats, got the rolling double kicks,
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  Speaker 2: got shredding, got screaming.
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  Speaker 1: But we we we make everything fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's like it's we we equally make it like a
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  Speaker 2: dance party and it's you know, we a lot of
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  Speaker 2: crowd participation, a lot of just yeah like uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's half party, half metal band.
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  Speaker 1: Essentially.
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  Speaker 4: That sounds good to you know, you sort of mention
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  Speaker 4: this before, but like I was still mind known as
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  Speaker 4: a bit of a party band and you guys known
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  Speaker 4: as a good time band.
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  Speaker 3: So how important is it to get that right on tour?
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  Speaker 4: You know, like you don't want a too serious band
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  Speaker 4: going on with the party band, I guess, you know,
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  Speaker 4: like you gotta that that dynamics off stage and on
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  Speaker 4: stage has got to coexist on it.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Ideally, when you can pair up fun bands together, it's
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  Speaker 2: always great because then it's just one big fund show.
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  Speaker 2: But I you know, I've also because there's not as
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  Speaker 2: many fun bands of serious bands. We've done most of
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  Speaker 2: our touring with serious bands, and it still goes over
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  Speaker 2: great because you know, we're we're still that like bit
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  Speaker 2: of a refreshment in the middle of the show, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when we were when we were coming up and opening
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  Speaker 2: a lot of shows or being in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: packages and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're kind of we're this little like all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's getting really serious and metal.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then there's the fun band and then
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  Speaker 2: back to the you know, it kind of sparses the
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  Speaker 2: evening up a lit little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: A necro goblicn live show is uh you know, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's a it's a it's one part metal
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  Speaker 2: show on one part fucking party.
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  Speaker 1: Is is the show?
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  Speaker 2: It's you know, we're we're we're doing everything a metal
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  Speaker 2: band does. We're playing our parts, we're actually playing him
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  Speaker 2: and uh uh are and but and along with that,
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  Speaker 2: we have our our bodacious front man John goble con
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  Speaker 2: uh you know uh now on the mic, along with
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  Speaker 2: Dicky Allen leading a whole a goblin party throughout the
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  Speaker 2: entire show, you know, And that's and that's it's it's
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  Speaker 2: it's equal parts both you know where you know we're
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  Speaker 2: just as much as we want you to mosh, we
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  Speaker 2: also want you to dance. And you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 2: we have every part of a metal show still part
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  Speaker 2: of it, but every part of it is just a
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  Speaker 2: wild celebration of being fucking weirdos is is how I
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  Speaker 2: how would.
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  Speaker 1: I call it.
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  Speaker 4: Through?
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  Speaker 2: Then?
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  Speaker 4: And as I suggest, goblins do probably a large part
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  Speaker 4: in the show.
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  Speaker 3: Run us run us through that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of people that are not familiar
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  Speaker 4: with the music might just see the film clips and
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  Speaker 4: the goblins here and there, but it's actually a massive
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  Speaker 4: part of.
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  Speaker 3: What you do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, and it's it's all you know.
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  Speaker 2: And this all stemmed, you know, from back in two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and six, just starting a band with the pure
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  Speaker 2: attention like how funny would be to make a band
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  Speaker 2: that's only about goblins, right, And then it was no
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  Speaker 2: one had any idea that there was no attempt at
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  Speaker 2: least at the time.
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  Speaker 1: In that, you know, to make this a career or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. It was just it was made.
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  Speaker 2: And again it was like the idea that the funny idea,
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  Speaker 2: Like we wanted to to have fun doing it, but
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  Speaker 2: we never lost seriousness as musicians, you know, we always like, well, no,
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  Speaker 2: we want this to be like really good, and we
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be fun and weird, but like we want
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  Speaker 2: to like we're gonna put a like the straight faced
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  Speaker 2: effort into this as any serious metal band would you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, they're they're they're putting the same amount hours. We're
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  Speaker 1: not like a.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't service the funny part of it harder than
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  Speaker 2: we serviced the musician side of it, and and that
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  Speaker 2: was really important to us in the beginning. And uh,
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  Speaker 2: and then fast forward to two thousand and twelve and
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  Speaker 2: we're we've moved to La and we, uh, we played
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  Speaker 2: a show and we're still not a big band. We
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  Speaker 2: had a little bit of MySpace Buzz played a show,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and my coworker came and he brought his
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  Speaker 2: friend named Brandon Dermer, who was at that time just
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  Speaker 2: just started up and coming director who saw the show
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  Speaker 2: and there's maybe like ten people there and he like
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  Speaker 2: came up to me afterwards and we're like, this is
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  Speaker 2: the fucking greatest thing I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see how this is not packed.
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  Speaker 2: I love that you guys are just normal guys and
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  Speaker 2: just like having fun and like, I have to do
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  Speaker 2: some kind of video you And that's when John Goblecon
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  Speaker 2: was born, a specific character that's played by Davis Spoley.
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  Speaker 2: And so that you know, like we've made that video.
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  Speaker 2: We pulled every favor we could to make this video happen,
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  Speaker 2: like every single we've used our own money. Was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: got really scrappy with it, and everyone who was on
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  Speaker 2: board believed in it. And that video, you know, it
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  Speaker 2: depicts a day in the life goblin, not a goblin
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  Speaker 2: in a fantastical world, but he's just a goblin who's
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  Speaker 2: just another guy with a job who smokes weed and
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  Speaker 2: drinks a little too much and hates his job and
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  Speaker 2: is nervous at work, doesn't feel like he fits in
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  Speaker 2: with anyone else there, has a little crush on a girl.
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  Speaker 1: And but he's this goblin and that's he's seeing the
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  Speaker 1: world through these eyes.
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  Speaker 2: And that video took off and suddenly we're like, this
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  Speaker 2: is this is what we're about.
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  Speaker 1: We're about this.
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  Speaker 2: Both that feeling that that being being an outcast character,
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  Speaker 2: being weird, a goblin having humor to it, but having
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  Speaker 2: but having this not just fantastical element, but like it's
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  Speaker 2: a goblin living in our world. It's a it's he's
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  Speaker 2: he's outside of what makes him comfortable. He's like he's
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  Speaker 2: had to create places that make him comfortable, like like
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  Speaker 2: the now a podcast we have and now we have
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  Speaker 2: like and he's seen he's this goblin has seen success
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  Speaker 2: from this video and is now has a bit of
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  Speaker 2: an ego and it's stoked to be a singer. But
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  Speaker 2: it's it's really it's on top of being about goblins,
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  Speaker 2: it's become about this goblin specifically in his view of
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  Speaker 2: of reality. And we're and the band hit through the band,
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  Speaker 2: we express that music through the podcast and through film
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  Speaker 2: and whatnot. We expressed that through video, but it's all
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  Speaker 2: it all comes back to that that one that character.
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  Speaker 3: Very good, but now it's now it's a global succession.
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  Speaker 3: Have you sent the feelings out to try and find
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  Speaker 3: a real goblin to come in?
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're We've said it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we we were Our door is always open
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  Speaker 2: for a real goblin to come in. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think you know it's uh uh John Goble Coon
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  Speaker 2: is as far as we know, the only goblin that
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  Speaker 2: exists on Earth, and he's he's dying to find more,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
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  Speaker 4: But your music and it's very tongue in shaking, light hearted,
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  Speaker 4: it's it. It's it's refreshing in the one nights and
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  Speaker 4: music that's, in my opinion, becoming way too sanitarized. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Like have you the years, have you had to adjust
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  Speaker 4: what you do say you don't offend people?
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  Speaker 2: If anything, I think we've only gotten more offensive, like
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  Speaker 2: you know, honestly, like yeah, we've we've all, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and obviously we want to be tasteful, so we never
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  Speaker 2: want to be offensive for the sake of being offensive.
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  Speaker 1: But if something's.
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  Speaker 2: Really really funny, we're and like it's like, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: just that's fucking hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: Like we all agree it's funny, Like we're doing it, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, like people can get offended by anything. We know,
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  Speaker 2: we know we're not full of hate. We're know where
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  Speaker 2: and we don't and we don't really we don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not ever trying to be fringe humor in
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  Speaker 2: any way. We we just we do what makes us laugh,
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  Speaker 2: and that's that's the most important thing, is like we
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  Speaker 2: find this funny. So we're doing it, and it's like
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  Speaker 2: for the shows and we're on tour, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's you know, John's out there, he's saying he's saying
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  Speaker 2: what he finds funny at every moment, and and there's
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  Speaker 2: no like official script for the show. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: have some things we say, but like it's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff that we'll see something silly in a city
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  Speaker 2: on our way in and suddenly that that is the
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  Speaker 2: only thing.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about.
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  Speaker 2: The whole show is is you know, and we like
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  Speaker 2: to make this show like specific to this. So we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna come out to Australia in just just over a
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  Speaker 2: month and like month and a half and yeah, so.
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  Speaker 1: I'm we're gonna we're we're gonna roast your country for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Consonant sorry check black and.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah no no, see that's we have no interest in
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  Speaker 2: talking politics. That's it's overdone anyways. It's it's not even
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  Speaker 2: something we we care about to talk about. That's like, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: we're we're keeping it, keeping it clean, but keeping it biting,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of people do focus on the live show and the
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  Speaker 4: goblin aspect of it. But musically, like you're blending melody crop,
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  Speaker 4: there's death metal, there's DM in there. Like it's stuff
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  Speaker 4: that really, on paper should not work together. Like how
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  Speaker 4: do you get it all together to make it work?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it's it's honestly, it's it comes from
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  Speaker 2: us liking all those genres, all these different genres, all
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  Speaker 2: these different genres of metal by itself on top of
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  Speaker 2: the d M and everything else and some pop even
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  Speaker 2: and uh, ultimately at this point it's kind of been established,
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  Speaker 2: but you know it kind of in the beginning, it
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  Speaker 2: was just organic and it was it like it if
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  Speaker 2: it didn't fit, we wouldn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: But it worked. There was a desire to put it
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  Speaker 1: in there.
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  Speaker 2: It's still the songs always have a still a strong
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  Speaker 2: melodic structure. So no matter what genre we're invoking with
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  Speaker 2: the part, we're keeping it within parameters of a song
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  Speaker 2: that like, we don't do random tempo changes. Our key
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  Speaker 2: changes are meticulously crafted, you know.
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  Speaker 1: We we we we we do. We want that.
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  Speaker 2: We want every part going into it to each other
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  Speaker 2: to feel seamless and be like and have it be
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  Speaker 2: like what like wow, why does that work? And we
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  Speaker 2: put a lot of effort into making that work, into
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  Speaker 2: making it, making it so you're not like you're so
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  Speaker 2: bobbing your head, You're not like scratching what are they
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  Speaker 2: doing now?
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a little a lot of surprises like whoa what
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  Speaker 2: they do there?
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  Speaker 1: But nothing nothing.
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  Speaker 2: That we we we would not want everything to pass
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  Speaker 2: the head bob tests, you know, like it like it,
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  Speaker 2: you gotta still be rocking with it. If if we're
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  Speaker 2: if we're working on a song, we're listening and then
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  Speaker 2: the head bobbing stops or like we're just kind of
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  Speaker 2: like and then it's like, all right, this one's this
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  Speaker 2: one's not making the cut, you know.
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  Speaker 4: It's that's the Monday in that creating process, like, how
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  Speaker 4: do you decide when you've gone too far in one
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  Speaker 4: direction and not far enough and the other.
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  Speaker 3: Is it just a head bump thing and just watching people's.
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  Speaker 2: Heads, you know, a lot of it's yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of it's going with your gut. It's it's that
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  Speaker 2: feels right, I love it, you know, And it's it's
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  Speaker 2: not thinking too hard. The biggest thing we don't want
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  Speaker 2: to think about is like is this metal enough or
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  Speaker 2: is this fitting of some genre enough? You know, that's
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  Speaker 2: that's not even what our fans want from us anyways.
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  Speaker 2: Like they like what we're doing, so we're like, let's
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  Speaker 2: like when we like what we're doing, so let's keep
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  Speaker 2: doing that, you know. And it naturally is evolving, but
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  Speaker 2: it's not really like intentional, it's it's just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's what we feel like doing. And we seem to
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  Speaker 2: agree on what, yeah, what what parts are strong and
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  Speaker 2: what parts need work, and then when part needs work,
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  Speaker 2: we get to work on it, and you know, and
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  Speaker 2: and if the song's good enough, then it sees the
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  Speaker 2: light of day, and if it's not, it doesn't, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And that's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's the process.
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  Speaker 3: But now what wish slot is that simple?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, honestly, yeah, it's it's I mean, it gets complex sometimes,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, it it compared to the rest of life. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: just making a weird goblin music is actually pretty simple.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Music.
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: Might like your last album, The Fundamental Slimes and Humans,
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: came out in twenty twenty.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: We just hit twenty twenty five. Might have to have
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: some new stuff on the horizon.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're, we're we're actually tracking vocals, uh in
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks with Dickie and John and
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: uh so we have we have a bunch of songs ready.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: We're we're putting they're gonna finish vocals on them. We're
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: gonna start to Maybe you might see them and come
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: online in the next couple months or so, but I
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: can't get too specific about that just yet.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: So you just want to another excuse you talk to
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: me in a couple of months.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, let's let once once they come out,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: hit me up again. We'll talk about we'll talk about
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: the song